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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: golfhappy on 02 March 2016, 21:05
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Just had an online chat with Stuart at DTUK about a pedalbox and after reading Booths fitment thread tomorrow i'll order one and well see if really is that good!
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Just had an online chat with Stuart at DTUK about a pedalbox and after reading Booths fitment thread tomorrow i'll order one and well see if really is that good!
Well I like it. :laugh: Without a doubt driving is more pleasurable now. I turned it off for about 20mins the other day just to compare and Zzzz! Unless it goes into meltdown or something, it 'aint ever coming off. :wink:
Let us know what you think when you've fitted yours golfhappy. Are you DSG?
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Let us know what you think when you've fitted yours golfhappy. Are you DSG?
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It's a manual. I'll order tomorrow and should receive it by Friday and the car will be in a heap by Saturday :smiley:
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Rebecca is it just the pedal box you've got on yours and not the tuning box too? How does it get along with the dsg?
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Rebecca is it just the pedal box you've got on yours and not the tuning box too? How does it get along with the dsg?
Just the pedal box. Not interested in the tuning box. So far, so good with DSG. Only had it on couple of weeks but no issues at all. Sport feels smoother if anything. And in Drive, it's really now as the car should be from the off IMO. You can get a money back guarantee with them, so definitely worth a try. :smiley:
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Ive had a pedal box on for around 6 months on my pp DSG, its been faultless and I wouldn't be without it. They only time I've turned it off was driving through 4 - 5 of snow, so it wasn't aggressive.
I found Eco mode, LSD and winter tyres was a fantastic combination in the snow :laugh:
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Ive had a pedal box on for around 6 months on my pp DSG, its been faultless and I wouldn't be without it. They only time I've turned it off was driving through 4 - 5 of snow, so it wasn't aggressive.
I found Eco mode, LSD and winter tyres was a fantastic combination in the snow :laugh:
What settings or setting do you have it on? Ordered it last night so should be here tomorrow.....tools at the ready!
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I wouldnt rely on the 14 day money back guarentee with dtuk. I returned my tuning box within 10 days and they kept a restocking fee! ! Not good business practice really considering the site quotes a 14 day money back guarentee.
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Had mine for 4 months now the throttle response is like night and day. I have been experimenting and found Sport to be ideal to go with my Revo stage 2. A Honda Civic Type R didn't know what hit it the other day :evil:
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Has the pedalbox affected anyone's insurance or have their insurers been accommodating?
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Also, will the pedal box affect a warranty claim? Let's say I break down and the car is recovered to VW. I have no chance to remove the box. Will they say "Sir, you have modified the car, we will not honour the warranty"?
Bubba.
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Has the pedalbox affected anyone's insurance or have their insurers been accommodating?
My insurance wasn't affected, once they understand what it does & that it doesn't make the car faster or more powerful
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Ive had a pedal box on for around 6 months on my pp DSG, its been faultless and I wouldn't be without it. They only time I've turned it off was driving through 4 - 5 of snow, so it wasn't aggressive.
I found Eco mode, LSD and winter tyres was a fantastic combination in the snow :laugh:
What settings or setting do you have it on? Ordered it last night so should be here tomorrow.....tools at the ready!
Can't remember- I'll check tomorrow for you
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Thanks Eccie - my current insurers are a thieving bunch of arses but I might ask them (if they don't charge me for the privilege).
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No change on my insurance as it's not an increase in HP. :smiley:
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That reminds me, I must tell my insurer about the pedal box :whistle:
I've got mine set to Sport 0 or +1. Seems to be a good setting for most scenarios.
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That reminds me, I must tell my insurer about the pedal box :whistle:
I've got mine set to Sport 0 or +1. Seems to be a good setting for most scenarios.
Fitted today, did have a wee bit bother fitting there plug into my original one from the throttle pedal.
Conclusion on testing.....here's how i would describe it! OMG!!!! its like sticking a badger in a cage and not feeding it for a week then sticking your hand in to pet it without a glove and that darn thing is pissed at you! God it's bloody good :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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LOL!
Maybe DTUK should ship these in a box marked "beware of the badger" :D
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LOL!
Maybe DTUK should ship these in a box marked "beware of the badger" :D
It really is that good. Using Sport the now. When people say it's like having an extra 20bhp they aint kidding. Just responds from planting the foot.
Esso once said " put a tiger in your tank" DTUK " put a badger under your pedal" :smiley:
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Tried one on mine but really didn't notice a huge difference using Sport mode and Sport + was too frantic, returned it in the 14 days but apparently the grey connector had come loose in transit so I only saw £119 of my original £155.95.
Mines a manual GTD, interesting to know if people see better results with DSG?
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how much are they for mk7 r dsg?
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Tried one on mine but really didn't notice a huge difference using Sport mode and Sport + was too frantic, returned it in the 14 days but apparently the grey connector had come loose in transit so I only saw £119 of my original £155.95.
Mines a manual GTD, interesting to know if people see better results with DSG?
Seems odd, another person complained that they took a restocking fee because they returned theirs. Could they be pulling a fast one. In my research over the last couple of weeks I have found that you're not the first for it to happen to.
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how much are they for mk7 r dsg?
I paid £185 inc delivery. Would presume they'll be the same price. Those connectors are/or mine was a b!tch. In fact the pedal box is lucky its still alive. Was going to kill it with the hammer this afternoon.
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It says full refund within 14 days on the website but if you haven't taken any pics before returning it's dtuk's word against yours. This mysterious restocking fee is bo44ocks and just a way to fleece customers. Absolutely nothing wrong with a box I returned and still had the fee taken off. Anyone buying just make 100% certain your going to keep whatever you buy from them.
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100% agree with mcmaddy, be sure your going to keep it - as posted above my weeks trial cost me £36.95 plus return costs, some obviously notice a benefit but not me. As pedal boxes and tuning boxes are available from DTE Systems distributors i'll go to them in the future
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100% agree with mcmaddy, be sure your going to keep it - as posted above my weeks trial cost me £36.95 plus return costs, some obviously notice a benefit but not me. As pedal boxes and tuning boxes are available from DTE Systems distributors i'll go to them in the future
Simon, the pedal box you sent back was minus the grey connector hence the charge... if the kit had been returned in a saleable condition then the charge wouldn't of been applied.
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how much are they for mk7 r dsg?
Chris as you're local youre more than welcome to pop up and try a pedal box as we have a demo system that we can whip off our Golf R
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How does the pedal box get along with revo stage 1?
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Just to clarify..
Andrew, the connector was in the box, in your email to me you said the grey clip was broken and loose in the box, as per my email it was all intact when despatched.
Seeing as I had no way of proving this and no need for the pedal box I accepted your reduced money back guarantee.
Simon
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How does the pedal box get along with revo stage 1?
I have the Superchips remap coupled with the box and no problems whatsoever. Did have it on sport plus today with 2 red lights on...the acceleration was awesome! well put it this way i did see on my starboard bow 2 Klingon Warbirds being chased by the USS Enterprise..i overtook them and carried on my journey :smiley:
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Reading through this thread, the effect of the pedal box seems to be that it takes flooring the throttle more literally than the standard setup, with less or no regard for economy, or optimum acceleration assumed. Has anyone noticed economy suffering?
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Reading through this thread, the effect of the pedal box seems to be that it takes flooring the throttle more literally than the standard setup, with less or no regard for economy, or optimum acceleration assumed. Has anyone noticed economy suffering?
It gives the throttle a hair trigger. Lazy buggers these DSG drivers, too much effort to use a stick, too much effort to press a throttle pedal more than half way.... :grin:
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Tbh i never check fuel economy, other threads do say that it does suffer. Really cant knock the box the car picks up from the start. I suppose it makes the car even more exciting to drive. I did switch the box off and the car is quite lethargic.
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My fuel economy is so bad anyway what's another few mpg down the drain. :grin: Feels very sluggish if you turn the box off for a bit. Box livens up things nicely.
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Lazy buggers these DSG drivers, too much effort to use a stick, too much effort to press a throttle pedal more than half way.... :grin:
We conserve all our energy for extreme paddle action. :tongue:
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Interesting you got a reply Simon where my post was conveniently ignored :whistle:
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100% agree with mcmaddy, be sure your going to keep it - as posted above my weeks trial cost me £36.95 plus return costs, some obviously notice a benefit but not me. As pedal boxes and tuning boxes are available from DTE Systems distributors i'll go to them in the future
Hi I see from your sig you have some 19" Neuspeed RSE10 wheels, can I be nosey and ask where you got them from and an approx cost including tyres? Are there any deals available on them anywhere do you know?
Cheers!
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Yes got Neuspeed RSE 10, got lucky and found someone selling the wheels, VW Racing Springs and Rieger splitter all new for a very good price.
Wheels are available from Awesome: http://www.awesomegti.com/neuspeed-rse10-light-weight-wheel-19x8-5x112
Mine are 19 x 8 with 235 35 19 Michelin pilot super sport, tyres fitted were £640.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/074BB6F8-4D18-4CD0-9758-99F7BFCE1ADD_zpsdugqzyzm.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/PSi3/media/074BB6F8-4D18-4CD0-9758-99F7BFCE1ADD_zpsdugqzyzm.jpg.html)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/57AF64CC-1755-42B1-90ED-E7D64FFA0D44_zpsexwtujbg.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/PSi3/media/57AF64CC-1755-42B1-90ED-E7D64FFA0D44_zpsexwtujbg.jpg.html)
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Yes got Neuspeed RSE 10, got lucky and found someone selling the wheels, VW Racing Springs and Rieger splitter all new for a very good price.
Wheels are available from Awesome: http://www.awesomegti.com/neuspeed-rse10-light-weight-wheel-19x8-5x112
Mine are 19 x 8 with 235 35 19 Michelin pilot super sport, tyres fitted were £640.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/074BB6F8-4D18-4CD0-9758-99F7BFCE1ADD_zpsdugqzyzm.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/PSi3/media/074BB6F8-4D18-4CD0-9758-99F7BFCE1ADD_zpsdugqzyzm.jpg.html)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/57AF64CC-1755-42B1-90ED-E7D64FFA0D44_zpsexwtujbg.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/PSi3/media/57AF64CC-1755-42B1-90ED-E7D64FFA0D44_zpsexwtujbg.jpg.html)
Cheers,they look great! You dont want to sell em do you?!
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Thanks, and sorry no, these are staying.
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Gorgeous wheels :drool:
I'm only a couple of miles from Awesome GTI so might pop by and have a look at them in the flesh :smiley:
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how much are they for mk7 r dsg?
Chris as you're local youre more than welcome to pop up and try a pedal box as we have a demo system that we can whip off our Golf R
Andrew, will get in touch in 2 month! thats when i take delivery! hopefully if vw get there finger out!
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Where are people storing the little control unit for these? I'd be worried about the cable getting tangled in around the pedals.
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Where are people storing the little control unit for these? I'd be worried about the cable getting tangled in around the pedals.
In the pull down drawer thingy by your right knee
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Where are people storing the little control unit for these? I'd be worried about the cable getting tangled in around the pedals.
In the pull down drawer thingy by your right knee
Mine was placed there too. When i went to change programs today however, i noticed that the cable had worked its way back down to the pedals. Just pulled it back up and made a couple of loops and all's well again.
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Interesting you got a reply Simon where my post was conveniently ignored :whistle:
That is what I thought, they must be very selective in their replies.
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It's been ignored because he has no genuine reason to withhold any fee for my returned box what so ever. I do however get money off if I decide to buy another box which clearly I won't be so I'd rather have a full refund if I'm honest.
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I nearly returned mine as well, those connectors are a b!tch! I looked at the instructions and videos etc and still had bother. Thats when posted i nearly battered it with a hammer. Link here is to an additional video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqEtNjj_56U You'll notice you have to put it in at an angle, even that was proving difficult.
On my box that long black locator down the side was buffed off, not by me, possibly by them. It did however not help. So i looked at it again and it wasn't that slide that was catching it was the first part of the rounded connector. I took a knife a notched a bit off the end and low and behold the connectors went together not a problem.
This may help in the future.
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I removed the little grey plastic clip from mine before I fitted it (after a chat with DTUK) it makes fitting & removal so much easier and I still have all the skin on my fingers intact :grin:
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I removed the little grey plastic clip from mine before I fitted it (after a chat with DTUK) it makes fitting & removal so much easier and I still have all the skin on my fingers intact :grin:
Although i didn't post that above i did the same. So it's a bit of a butcher job. This does beggar the question..are the connectors really German or made in the Zeng Shin district in China? and from memory there is a VW stamp on the grey plastic connector but hey ho that wouldn't present a problem to the Chinese!
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Booth11 done a very detailed install guide with photos.
Post 208 down the page a bit http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=275792.200
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Did read that it was spot on. The problem lies with the connectors. The grey one which replaces the OEM orange one which connects to the pedal, its hard to push the grey connector into the locking position. The next problem arises with the OEM orange connector to the pedal box one. Mine had the slide bit buffed off when i received it, probably DTUKs mod to aid fitting.
Dare i say this but Booth must be stronger than us! :cry:
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Did read that it was spot on. The problem lies with the connectors. The grey one which replaces the OEM orange one which connects to the pedal, its hard to push the grey connector into the locking position. The next problem arises with the OEM orange connector to the pedal box one. Mine had the slide bit buffed off when i received it, probably DTUKs mod to aid fitting.
Dare i say this but Booth must be stronger than us! :cry:
She probably is as well, I'd put it down to all the detailing she does on her R
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Booth11 done a very detailed install guide with photos.
Post 208 down the page a bit http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=275792.200
Thanks!
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Booth11 done a very detailed install guide with photos.
Post 208 down the page a bit http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=275792.200
Thanks!
You'll no be saying thanks when your're doing your Honey badger impression, the sweat will be running down your brow, fingers will be dripping with blood...and that's only getting the box open! :smiley:
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Booth11 done a very detailed install guide with photos.
Post 208 down the page a bit http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=275792.200
Thanks!
You'll no be saying thanks when your're doing your Honey badger impression, the sweat will be running down your brow, fingers will be dripping with blood...and that's only getting the box open! :smiley:
Haha. I'm not sure if I'll get one just yet as it'll be a GTD on lease. I bought a RaceChip tuning box for my current BMW and used it once. I liked the increased performance, but it was a nightmare to get installed and didn't fancy having to go through the process every time I went for a service. PedalBox looks easier alright.
EDIT: And yes, I'm aware the PedalBox doesn't increase performance like a tuning box :)
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Yeh i had a Racechip on my leon FR 170, every bit as good as a map until i started to play about with the settings. I maybe take my Bluefin ,ap out the golf and see what the pedal box is like in standard HP. Did put in sport plus +2 tonight and that thing flys.
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Haha! I am super strong. :grin: I have strong fingers which I put down to years of yoga and pilates which works every tiny part of your body, right down to fingers and toes. Stood me in good stead for the infamous pedal box connectors.
The connectors are very stiff, but having read lots of stories of them breaking etc, I decided to stay calm and not go at like a raging bull, lol. I walked away a couple of times, went and had a cup of tea (didn't include that in the instructions), and then went back and showed those connectors who was boss. In all honesty they weren't that bad, but my box had been on someone else's car so may be they had a bit of give. I'd previously found that video that golfhappy posted showing the connectors going together but actually the point is to get the connectors in dead straight if you can. That's easier said than done whilst kneeling with your head crooked in the footwell whilst the gravel digs into your knees, lol!!
I've heard removing the pedal box is where the problems lay as many say the grey clip breaks although the guy who used the box I now have seemed to get his off without it breaking.
I hope the fitting guide I did will be of help to others as the DTUK video is a little too simplistic and to start it's a bit of a different story when you get your head under the footwell and see all the wires. The biggest favour you can do for yourself it to first remove the flat piece of trim, that makes a huge difference.
As well as the fitting thread MK7-GTD linked to - it's also in here in the maintenance section. I added the pic guide to Vidman's very useful thread and his initial post helped me no end.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276517.msg2531794;boardseen#new
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I left it until the last day before my GTI went in part ex before removing mine as I hated driving the car without it. And quite late in the day at that.
I pulled, and I wiggled, and I pulled, and I pulled some more. I went and made a cuppa. I came back out and I pulled some more and no, the thing was NOT coming off.
I text Andrew@DTUK and he told me to get hold of the office and "the boys will help you" but alas the office was shut. I rewatched the YouTube vid DTUK have whilst nursing my fingertips then took a deep breath...
So I went back to the car with a steely face and I wiggled and pulled again. The grey clip started to break but I was undeterred and then...
Sudden movement!
The box was free!
Then I looked closer.
The box wasn't *quite* free.
The circuit board assembly (which is very small) had come out of the top of the pedal and was still happily attached to the Pedalbox connector!!
"Oh merde!"
At least it was now free of the car and I took it all indoors and got to work on it.
The circuit board just sits in the top of the pedal and aside from the wired connector (the one the box intersects) there's no other cabling attached and it just clicked back into the top of the pedal afterwards and worked fine.
So, did my experience put me off?
Not a chance! As soon as the replacement car was home I was out on my hands and knees fitting the pedal box to it.
Moral of the story: it's worth the effort.
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I left it until the last day before my GTI went in part ex before removing mine as I hated driving the car without it. And quite late in the day at that.
I pulled, and I wiggled, and I pulled, and I pulled some more. I went and made a cuppa. I came back out and I pulled some more and no, the thing was NOT coming off.
I text Andrew@DTUK and he told me to get hold of the office and "the boys will help you" but alas the office was shut. I rewatched the YouTube vid DTUK have whilst nursing my fingertips then took a deep breath...
So I went back to the car with a steely face and I wiggled and pulled again. The grey clip started to break but I was undeterred and then...
Sudden movement!
The box was free!
Then I looked closer.
The box wasn't *quite* free.
The circuit board assembly (which is very small) had come out of the top of the pedal and was still happily attached to the Pedalbox connector!!
"Oh merde!"
At least it was now free of the car and I took it all indoors and got to work on it.
The circuit board just sits in the top of the pedal and aside from the wired connector (the one the box intersects) there's no other cabling attached and it just clicked back into the top of the pedal afterwards and worked fine.
So, did my experience put me off?
Not a chance! As soon as the replacement car was home I was out on my hands and knees fitting the pedal box to it.
Moral of the story: it's worth the effort.
I love that story! :smiley:
The other moral of the story is.....when the going gets tough, go get a cup of tea! 'Tis the British way. :laugh: :laugh:
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Tea is the work of the devil !!
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Tea is the best drink in the world! Ok, actually water is best but tea a close second. :laugh:
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A bit of feedback for those with garden variety Golfs. I just fitted the DTUK pedal box+ to my new 1.4TSi Golf. I was hoping to eliminate the dead inch or two of throttle travel and hopefully mask the low-rev lag of this 1.4 engine.
A quick drive around the block on the green city and red sport modes showed the pedal box has completely eliminated the dead pedal travel on both settings. Throttle response is now instant and crisp. It is amazing how much more alive and responsive the car feels - even with the 150bhp 1.4. I expect a GTI would really benefit!
Unfortunately the pedal box hasn't eliminated the 1.4's low-rev lag, but has masked it to a degree. Instead of a solid two-second wait before any response to a prod of the throttle (eg, exiting slow speed right angle turns into a side street) it now responds after a much shorter delay as revs build more quickly into the torque band.
All up I think this is a tremendous product. It does exactly what it says on the box. 10/10.
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And just imagine the transformation in an R :laugh: As Booth said the best mod for a Golf money can buy.
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And just imagine the transformation in an R :laugh: As Booth said the best mod for a Golf money can buy.
And you haven't gone through a ditch yet CBH :whistle:
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And just imagine the transformation in an R :laugh: As Booth said the best mod for a Golf money can buy.
And you haven't gone through a ditch yet CBH :whistle:
Or wrapped it round a tree. :whistle:
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And just imagine the transformation in an R :laugh: As Booth said the best mod for a Golf money can buy.
And you haven't gone through a ditch yet CBH :whistle:
Or wrapped it round a tree. :whistle:
Or indeed into the back of someone's car
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And just imagine the transformation in an R :laugh: As Booth said the best mod for a Golf money can buy.
And you haven't gone through a ditch yet CBH :whistle:
Or wrapped it round a tree. :whistle:
Or indeed into the back of someone's car
That’s what Front Assist is for. :wink:
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And just imagine the transformation in an R :laugh: As Booth said the best mod for a Golf money can buy.
Well, I have the pedal box. Now just have to work on the "R" bit.... :wink:
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And just imagine the transformation in an R :laugh: As Booth said the best mod for a Golf money can buy.
And you haven't gone through a ditch yet CBH :whistle:
Or wrapped it round a tree. :whistle:
Or indeed into the back of someone's car
That’s what Front Assist is for. :wink:
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Was chuffed to hold onto a 'lovely' 911 Targa 4 yesterday (thanks to dtuk) then discovered it was only the twin pipe 370bhp :whistle: Mind you at £100k!!! that's 3 R's
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Was chuffed to hold onto a 'lovely' 911 Targa 4 yesterday (thanks to dtuk) then discovered it was only the twin pipe 370bhp :whistle: Mind you at £100k!!! that's 3 R's
You only need one R,and one pedal box. :smiley:
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Just wondering if anyone with a TB+ can shed light on what the "PerfecTune" function does.
I recently fitted a PB+ and have just been driving it without having followed the "PerfecTune" instructions.
The car drives fine as is, but I'm wondering if this tuning feature will give me anything in addition to just the regular plug and play?
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Was chuffed to hold onto a 'lovely' 911 Targa 4 yesterday (thanks to dtuk) then discovered it was only the twin pipe 370bhp :whistle: Mind you at £100k!!! that's 3 R's
You'd have not held onto a Yamaha R1 and that's half an R and only 200ps ;-)
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Was chuffed to hold onto a 'lovely' 911 Targa 4 yesterday (thanks to dtuk) then discovered it was only the twin pipe 370bhp :whistle: Mind you at £100k!!! that's 3 R's
You'd have not held onto a Yamaha R1 and that's half an R and only 200ps ;-)
I reckon so if it had a 3/4 seater (if they made them?) sidecar attached.
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Just wondering if anyone with a TB+ can shed light on what the "PerfecTune" function does.
I recently fitted a PB+ and have just been driving it without having followed the "PerfecTune" instructions.
The car drives fine as is, but I'm wondering if this tuning feature will give me anything in addition to just the regular plug and play?
Would love to know if there is any real difference in use between the pedal box and pedal box+.
I've got the Remus aka regular pedal box and to be honest can't really see how it could be any better?
Might have to borrow one for a week and do a comparison.
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I think its just nicer packaging and support for the newest type of electronic throttle position messaging, which a Golf doesn't have yet.
The boxes are pretty car model/manufacturer generic
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I think its just nicer packaging and support for the newest type of electronic throttle position messaging, which a Golf doesn't have yet.
The boxes are pretty car model/manufacturer generic
Thought as much, so little point going for the plus version unless you plan to have it showing, mines hidden in the cubby box.
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In case anyone else is wondering about the "PerfecTune" feature on the PB+, I tried it and to be honest can't notice any difference. No better or worse than just plug and play out of the box.
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In case anyone else is wondering about the "PerfecTune" feature on the PB+, I tried it and to be honest can't notice any difference. No better or worse than just plug and play out of the box.
Thanks, I wondered about trying that feature but seemed a bit unnecessary to have to redline the engine whilst sitting still just to calibrate the pedalbox+?!
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Sounds like a must have item when my R arrives
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Sounds like a must have item when my R arrives
It is.
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In case anyone else is wondering about the "PerfecTune" feature on the PB+, I tried it and to be honest can't notice any difference. No better or worse than just plug and play out of the box.
Thanks, I wondered about trying that feature but seemed a bit unnecessary to have to redline the engine whilst sitting still just to calibrate the pedalbox+?!
Unless I misinterpreted the instructions the accelerator pedal is floored with the engine off, but ignition on. Will have to fish out the instructions to confirm.
Edit: Yep, correct. To quote the user guide: "Turn on the ignition. The engine does not have to be running....."
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Sounds like a must have item when my R arrives
It is.
Ditto :wink:
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Has anyone got experience of the DTUK pedal box alongside a DTUK tuning box?
I got my 2016 GTI PP last week and fitted the DTUK tuning box I'd had on my previous car (DTUK flashed the box with the new software obviously) which should take the car to over 300BHP, but obviously having joined this forum and seeing everybody raving about the pedal box it has got me interested in that as well.
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Plenty run both on here... with grins all over
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In case anyone else is wondering about the "PerfecTune" feature on the PB+, I tried it and to be honest can't notice any difference. No better or worse than just plug and play out of the box.
Thanks, I wondered about trying that feature but seemed a bit unnecessary to have to redline the engine whilst sitting still just to calibrate the pedalbox+?!
Unless I misinterpreted the instructions the accelerator pedal is floored with the engine off, but ignition on. Will have to fish out the instructions to confirm.
Edit: Yep, correct. To quote the user guide: "Turn on the ignition. The engine does not have to be running....."
Ah ok thanks maybe I'll try it at some point then!
I use eco mode more now as I can have good throttle response but still have the eco but I like which is the engine going in to neutral and idling when you take you foot off the accelerator
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I ordered one of these yesterday afternoon from DTUK and it arrived this morning via Royal Mail Special Delivery.
https://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/products-overview/?key=DTUK+Pedal+Box+Plus
It took me about half an hour to fit using Booth11's excellent instructions here...........
http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/13010-mk7-r-how-to-fit-a-dtuk-pedalbox/
I had no problems unplugging or reconnecting any of the plugs/sockets as mentioned in this and other forums and the device is now sat in the small glove box by the driver's right knee. It definitely makes everything easier if you remove the small panel to the left of the OBD-11 socket - it requires a T15 torx bit. A small torch and a soft mat to lie on definitely facilitate the procedure.
I have had a short drive round the block and the accelerator pedal definitely seems more responsive. A more comprehensive road-test will follow tomorrow when I have more time.
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It's even easier if you just remove that little cubby box and put your hand in through there to connect the plug. Two minutes and it's fitted.
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I ordered one of these yesterday afternoon from DTUK and it arrived this morning via Royal Mail Special Delivery.
https://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/products-overview/?key=DTUK+Pedal+Box+Plus
It took me about half an hour to fit using Booth11's excellent instructions here...........
http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/13010-mk7-r-how-to-fit-a-dtuk-pedalbox/
I had no problems unplugging or reconnecting any of the plugs/sockets as mentioned in this and other forums and the device is now sat in the small glove box by the driver's right knee. It definitely makes everything easier if you remove the small panel to the left of the OBD-11 socket - it requires a T15 torx bit. A small torch and a soft mat to lie on definitely facilitate the procedure.
I have had a short drive round the block and the accelerator pedal definitely seems more responsive. A more comprehensive road-test will follow tomorrow when I have more time.
Worth playing about with settings a bit to see what suits your driving style etc.
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It's even easier if you just remove that little cubby box and put your hand in through there to connect the plug. Two minutes and it's fitted.
What is the best way to do this? I had a look at it this morning and couldn't work out how to remove it.
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It's even easier if you just remove that little cubby box and put your hand in through there to connect the plug. Two minutes and it's fitted.
What is the best way to do this? I had a look at it this morning and couldn't work out how to remove it.
Just squeeze the sides near the top very hard and the lugs will clear the opening. A bit brutal but the plastic is quite flexible.
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As Mr Ex says above. You have to squeeze hard and it’s easier if you can get one side to release first then quickly do the other side.
Another forum but some guide pics here.
http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/13010-mk7-r-how-to-fit-a-dtuk-pedalbox/?do=findComment&comment=318739
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It's even easier if you just remove that little cubby box and put your hand in through there to connect the plug. Two minutes and it's fitted.
What is the best way to do this? I had a look at it this morning and couldn't work out how to remove it.
Just squeeze the sides near the top very hard and the lugs will clear the opening. A bit brutal but the plastic is quite flexible.
I've had another go at this and the cubby popped open quite easily. I don't know what I was doing wrong before! Anyway, it's a bit academic now as I fitted the device by removing the small panel next to the OBD2 port.
Many thanks to all for the advice.
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Out of curiosity, can somebody explain to me what is wrong with the standard throttle (as long as its in sport mode)?
The only thing I don't like is how there is a second step in the actual mechanical part - like some sort of auto kick down, even though its a manual.
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Out of curiosity, can somebody explain to me what is wrong with the standard throttle (as long as its in sport mode)?
The only thing I don't like is how there is a second step in the actual mechanical part - like some sort of auto kick down, even though its a manual.
If you find the standard throttle pedal fine then you don’t need a pedalbox. Simple as that really.
If you’ve ever driven a car with a carburettor then you’ll understand the difference in response to the mushy dead responses of later generation Golfs in give and take driving.
Pedalbox = doing ballet in ballet shoes.
Standard = doing ballet in deep sea diving boots
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The only thing I don't like is how there is a second step in the actual mechanical part - like some sort of auto kick down, even though its a manual.
You mean the gate at the bottom of the pedal travel?
That's for when you use the speed limiter, if you kick down through that it overrides the speed limiter...
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If you find the standard throttle pedal fine then you don’t need a pedalbox. Simple as that really.
If you’ve ever driven a car with a carburettor then you’ll understand the difference in response to the mushy dead responses of later generation Golfs in give and take driving.
Pedalbox = doing ballet in ballet shoes.
Standard = doing ballet in deep sea diving boots
Can't say I've driven many carburetor cars but this non-linear throttle behaviour has frustrated me in all my VAG cars, very eager to see if this box will translate my foot movement to an equal throttle opening, got a used one from a member here and should arrive any day now.
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Connection took literally 30 seconds (anyone that has done a JB1/4 installation will feel at home :grin:) but trying to place the controller inside the driver's cubby on a LHD car it seems as there is no space between the cubby's back and the fuses panel to fit the thick pedalbox cable. When I try to push the cubby box fully in place it feels like I'm squeezing the cable too much for comfort (or it could be the resistance from the locking tabs trying to push back in??) so not sure If I should proceed. Here's two photos:
Update: It was a matter of pushing the cubby in more firmly so that the lower locking tabs click into place, then the sides ones and there's just enough clearance for the cable to squeeze behind, easier when the cubby is open.
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Just came back from my first drive with the box... "freaking awesome" would summarize my findings and impressions pretty well but here's the detailed review, I know there's enough testimonies from so many owners here but owe it to myself to write a long one as I had been skeptical over pedalboxes for years, until tonight.
Simply put, the car is a new beast below 3500 rpm where in fact I use it most of the time being a daily driver. I dare say that the transformation is as significant and obvious as a stage 1 remap with one difference: The remap can easily go un-noticed when not driving with your foot down and makes its presence very clear when the revs start to build up after 3.5K. The box is exactly the opposite: It's all about requesting throttle from low rpm and in a low-ish gear (say <4th), not flooring it but with the intention of accelerating decisively (say 40% of pedal travel). Where you'd normally just hear engine noise and feel as if you're down 100bhp, the car now launches forward immediately feeling like it's good for each one of its announced horses.
That instant, forward kick even if you half-depress the pedal, a feeling which you would have probably expected on a performance car but failed to find on any VW of late is the most appreciated difference. Stock GTIs don't have it, stock R's don't have it, stock Clubsports don't have it and even a 360bhp mapped Clubsport doesn't have it, because it's not about how much power you make but how much of that is accessible to you early in the pedal travel. Think of it as an over-protective governor that only allows you a fraction of the power you've got until you really convince him you can handle it (which is by using lots of revs and lots of pedal at the same time). The pedalbox cancels that and just gives you access to exactly as much as you want right from the start. No lags, no need to drop down a gear and use more revs. It honestly reminded me of my previous car which was a stage 2 twincharged 1.4 TSI. If I missed one thing from that car is the supercharger and how instantly it picked up speed from low rpm no matter what. Well, I now have this and it's just an excuse to slow down and accelerate just for the heck of it, it feels that good.
Before tonight I had been wondering, can't you just depress the pedal more and have the same effect as a pedalbox? Well not really. I turned it off and tried to see if I could replicate the pedalbox acceleration by just putting my foot deeper down and I failed. I just got noise and revs but not as much acceleration. The beauties of drive by wire and its algorithms I guess...
So, will this give you more power? :tongue: Obviously not. Will it make you hit better acceleration times as in 0-60 or 60-120? Again probably not because when you do those you're already starting from high rpm and use full throttle so the ECU is already fully obeying your foot. BUT, it will make everyday driving so much more enjoyable and remind you what your car is really capable of because it's at exactly those everyday moments (and there are so many, probably orders of magnitude more than your "racing" moments) that you're not racing or in the lowest gear possible, but just want to make swift progress "politely", and the stock throttle map denies you that. It's at those moments that you will enjoy a much quicker, direct response and consequently a faster car. For me, I think it has made city driving (an occasion ruled out as a fun one) so much more pleasant.
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Well that is the best review/write up I've ever read on here - absolute nail.on.the .head
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Well that is the best review/write up I've ever read on here - absolute nail.on.the .head
My thoughts too. :smiley:
It summed up what myself and a few others on here have been saying for years (but in smaller bites in multiple posts in multiple threads) all in one very well written review.
:afro:
For those that still say "why don't you just put your foot down a bit more?" all I can do is scream.
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Good writeup!
I'd guess that the OEM throttle mapping is all about CO2 test figures...
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Thanks. I know I tend to ask lots of questions about the details myself so I tried to write a review that would address as many as possible. And also due to the fact I did not expect it be that good really.
For those that still say "why don't you just put your foot down a bit more?" all I can do is scream.
I guess I was one of those people. It's weird how it's just not the same thing at all to put your foot down, compared to the response with the pedalbox on.
Good writeup!
I'd guess that the OEM throttle mapping is all about CO2 test figures...
Could be that, because I can't really think of a good reason to suppress the pedal request so much at the first half of the travel.
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Isn't the CO2 measured against testing at certain engine RPMs / simulated road speed?
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I was about to order one, but now not sure which:
* DTUK pedal box: £189 online
* DTUK pedal box Plus: £199 online
* Remus Respnder: £175 (199 euros)
Differences and recomendations?
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I was about to order one, but now not sure which:
* DTUK pedal box: £189 online
* DTUK pedal box Plus: £199 online
* Remus Respnder: £175 (199 euros)
Differences and recomendations?
The third one you don’t want.
The first one, pedal box, is the older style original pedal box.
The second one pedal box plus is the newer version
Of the two versions of the pedal box, the Plus and the original, the Plus is suitable for cars with newer digital SENT sensors (as found in some new Audi models etc), but available for cars with analogue sensors, and the original version is suitable for cars only with analogue sensors and not forwards compatible. The Plus uses improved processor technology and the calibration is more presice. The control unit of the Plus is much more contemporary looking than the old version. I have the old version, and it does a great job, so haven't felt the need to change but if I was buying today, for the small extra cost, I'd get the plus.
You can get discount on either using code RF80 (unless there’s some offer running already).
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Thanks Booth11. Will order the Plus.
(how come this forum has no 'thanks' button or have I missed it? Folks are so helpful the need is there!)
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Thanks Booth11. Will order the Plus.
(how come this forum has no 'thanks' button or have I missed it? Folks are so helpful the need is there!)
Now, I can endorse Booth here, and confirm she doesn't have actually have a personal interest in this particular company.
oops! forgot the :wink:
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You just get better and better CHB. Next time I hold a seance I’ll be sending some very disgruntled spirits your way! :evil:
FOR THE RECORD. I have no affiliation to DTUK or indeed any company whose products I recommend, have ever recommended. All my recommendations are borne from personal experience. Try as he might, CHB simply cannot tarnish my integrity. But keep trying love. :grin:
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Well this has completely convinced me too, how easy/difficult is it to fit and remove?
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Fitting tips here
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276517.0
You can either remove the flat trim panel removing a single Torx screw, or remove the drivers side storage cubby for access. Details of install and removal of storage cubby in this vwroc guide.
https://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/13010-mk7-r-how-to-fit-a-dtuk-pedalbox/
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Fitting tips here
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276517.0
You can either remove the flat trim panel removing a single Torx screw, or remove the drivers side storage cubby for access. Details of install and removal of storage cubby in this vwroc guide.
https://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/13010-mk7-r-how-to-fit-a-dtuk-pedalbox/
Ah brilliant Ta :smiley:
Now that I've read that a few questions. :wink:
In terms of driver modes (Eco and Sport) what is the consensus on Pedal Box setting's for each car/driver mode? Which setting is best for Eco and which is best for Sport?
Also, if one were to have the car in say Eco and the pedal box in sport plus does it differ vastly to having the car in Sport and the pedal box in Sport Plus? Obviously the differences in Eco and Sport are throttle response, steering etc, so say the car is in Eco and the box is in Sport Plus would it from an acceleration/ throttle response be the same as the car would be in Sport mode without the box, I hope I'm being clear enough.
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btw Out of interest or none at all. Had annual quote for insurance on the R and came in £50 lower than last year. I use a broker and it's with Zurich as last year. £369 , so thought I'd mention the pedal box which I haven't done until now.
Came back with £387 which I'm well happy with, especially as Zurich are not recognised as cheap and although would save 2p going with Direct line et al. No brainer.
1st service coming up, what do you reckon remove it or simply put it in normal mode?
Bet a lot of detailing work done this weekend by the pro's. 3 bucket method I read here recently! can't find reference in my Karma Sutra but then it is an early edition :wink:
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Fitting tips here
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276517.0
You can either remove the flat trim panel removing a single Torx screw, or remove the drivers side storage cubby for access. Details of install and removal of storage cubby in this vwroc guide.
https://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/13010-mk7-r-how-to-fit-a-dtuk-pedalbox/
Ah brilliant Ta :smiley:
Now that I've read that a few questions. :wink:
In terms of driver modes (Eco and Sport) what is the consensus on Pedal Box setting's for each car/driver mode? Which setting is best for Eco and which is best for Sport?
Also, if one were to have the car in say Eco and the pedal box in sport plus does it differ vastly to having the car in Sport and the pedal box in Sport Plus? Obviously the differences in Eco and Sport are throttle response, steering etc, so say the car is in Eco and the box is in Sport Plus would it from an acceleration/ throttle response be the same as the car would be in Sport mode without the box, I hope I'm being clear enough.
Can't help you with the settings with Eco as I never use Eco. I have my box permanently on one setting mode regardless of the car driver mode, which for me is always set to Individual with a few settings switchecsriund now and then depending on road and driving conditions. But my pedal box remains on the same setting which is Sport (amber light) and two greens. I originally started off on Sport with no greens and then moved to 1 green, finally settling on two greens. My advice is to try it on a number of settings until you find one you feel comfortable with. Much is dependent on driving strike so it’s not one size fits all, but trial and error.
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btw Out of interest or none at all. Had annual quote for insurance on the R and came in £50 lower than last year. I use a broker and it's with Zurich as last year. £369 , so thought I'd mention the pedal box which I haven't done until now.
Came back with £387 which I'm well happy with, especially as Zurich are not recognised as cheap and although would save 2p going with Direct line et al. No brainer.
1st service coming up, what do you reckon remove it or simply put it in normal mode?
Bet a lot of detailing work done this weekend by the pro's. 3 bucket method I read here recently! can't find reference in my Karma Sutra but then it is an early edition :wink:
For the service, it’s up to you, but I just switch the unit off and hide the controller (kept in drivers storage cubby) under a microfibre. Mine’s been through two services left in place and switched off and most recently was in for battery investigation and replacement under warranty and I left the pedal box in place switched off and all was well. Just don’t forget to switch it back on after picking the car up, otherwise you’ll feel like you’re driving through treacle.
So you don’t know about the double foreplay (pre wash) and 4 bucket method then? Better update your Karma Sutra to the latest digital edition. :wink: :grin: And buy more buckets!
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Fitting tips here
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276517.0
You can either remove the flat trim panel removing a single Torx screw, or remove the drivers side storage cubby for access. Details of install and removal of storage cubby in this vwroc guide.
https://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/13010-mk7-r-how-to-fit-a-dtuk-pedalbox/
Ah brilliant Ta :smiley:
Now that I've read that a few questions. :wink:
In terms of driver modes (Eco and Sport) what is the consensus on Pedal Box setting's for each car/driver mode? Which setting is best for Eco and which is best for Sport?
Also, if one were to have the car in say Eco and the pedal box in sport plus does it differ vastly to having the car in Sport and the pedal box in Sport Plus? Obviously the differences in Eco and Sport are throttle response, steering etc, so say the car is in Eco and the box is in Sport Plus would it from an acceleration/ throttle response be the same as the car would be in Sport mode without the box, I hope I'm being clear enough.
Can't help you with the settings with Eco as I never use Eco. I have my box permanently on one setting mode regardless of the car driver mode, which for me is always set to Individual with a few settings switchecsriund now and then depending on road and driving conditions. But my pedal box remains on the same setting which is Sport (amber light) and two greens. I originally started off on Sport with no greens and then moved to 1 green, finally settling on two greens. My advice is to try it on a number of settings until you find one you feel comfortable with. Much is dependent on driving strike so it’s not one size fits all, but trial and error.
No probs thanks for the help, maybe someone else will know ?
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I don't use eco on my GTI but I do use normal and individual (everything on sport except steering which I prefer on normal). I think the answer to your question is try it for yourself. It's personal. I have the pedalbox on sport with 1 green light and don't change it. It's all about trial and error. I found sport+ to be a bit too urgent but others will have a differing opinion. The main thing is get yourself a pedalbox and enjoy :smiley:
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Cheers Watts
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Fitting tips here
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276517.0
You can either remove the flat trim panel removing a single Torx screw, or remove the drivers side storage cubby for access. Details of install and removal of storage cubby in this vwroc guide.
https://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/13010-mk7-r-how-to-fit-a-dtuk-pedalbox/
.......Also, if one were to have the car in say Eco and the pedal box in sport plus does it differ vastly to having the car in Sport and the pedal box in Sport Plus? Obviously the differences in Eco and Sport are throttle response, steering etc, so say the car is in Eco and the box is in Sport Plus would it from an acceleration/ throttle response be the same as the car would be in Sport mode without the box, I hope I'm being clear enough.
I guess the answer will depend on whether the pedalbox is just amplifying the std throttle sensor signal, or altering it. I have read elsewhere it is just an amplifier, but have no idea if that is correct.
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I guess the answer will depend on whether the pedalbox is just amplifying the std throttle sensor signal, or altering it. I have read elsewhere it is just an amplifier, but have no idea if that is correct.
Yes it's an adjustable amplifier.
All the different settings are useful for when you're setting it up to suit your driving style, it doesn't take too long to find which one suits you best.
Eco mode actually dumbs down the ECU side of throttle response and makes the car pretty dull to drive. It won't make the car much more economical, the only reason it's Eco is because it encourages you to use the throttle more lightly by making it non responsive, and that's just what you don't want in a sports hatch.
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I've had my new GTI for just four weeks now and this thread has convinced me to order a pedal box. I've never added any modification to any car over nearly 40 year of driving but this one seems like a no brainer! Having changed from a BMW 235i i miss the instant pick up and feel, like other posters, that VW seems to 'nanny' the way the throttle response is modulated. I look forward to reporting back on it once received and fitted.
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I've had my new GTI for just four weeks now and this thread has convinced me to order a pedal box. I've never added any modification to any car over nearly 40 year of driving but this one seems like a no brainer! Having changed from a BMW 235i i miss the instant pick up and feel, like other posters, that VW seems to 'nanny' the way the throttle response is modulated. I look forward to reporting back on it once received and fitted.
You won’t half notice a difference.
Why did you bin the 235i for a GTI?
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Binned the 235i because of practicality and lease costs :cry: (personal lease with company car allowance) loved it as a midlife crisis toy (OK I'm a bit beyond midlife now!!)
Circumstances now changed hence swap to GTi ! Thoroughly enjoying it and will enjoy it more when the pedalbox arrives!
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Just installed the pedal box - it took no more than 5 mins and was very easy, (and I'm a pretty hamfisted 54 year old generally!!). What a change, it really is a huge step un in throttle response and I echo everything that other forum members have said. So if any one is hovering over whether to do it or not just go for it; the pick up on just tickling the throttle is miles better, it's already given me far more confidence, particularly in entering roundabouts and getting out of 't' junctions swiftly - here's to many more happy miles of fun motoring - heading from Surrey to the SW coast of Scotland next week and the car is just about run in now at 750 miles - so some great roads through Dumfries and Galloway to play on! :smiley:
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Just installed the pedal box - it took no more than 5 mins and was very easy, (and I'm a pretty hamfisted 54 year old generally!!). What a change, it really is a huge step un in throttle response and I echo everything that other forum members have said. So if any one is hovering over whether to do it or not just go for it; the pick up on just tickling the throttle is miles better, it's already given me far more confidence, particularly in entering roundabouts and getting out of 't' junctions swiftly - here's to many more happy miles of fun motoring - heading from Surrey to the SW coast of Scotland next week and the car is just about run in now at 750 miles - so some great roads through Dumfries and Galloway to play on! :smiley:
Glad you're pleased! For a relatively small amount it gives back so much more! Great value and easy mod! I've recently tweeked mine up to sport with two green lights with the car set to normal which seems to be about the same as with one green light but the car set to sport. I quite like the soundaktor but I don't always want it as loud so this seems a good compromise.
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Most effective value for money mod there is. Car is not complete without a pedalbox imo. It’s just putting there what should have been there from the factory!
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Mine had its 1st service!! (Ok £140 oil change, although I badgered a litre of free helix out of them)
Drove down to Swindon with PB in factory mode and seriously it was the worst drive I've had or can remember in the R, the car had to be in Sport mode and even then the amount of work needed to keep it on the boil was unbelievable.
Needless to say, it was reset to sport + for the blast home. The difference is such that the car feels de-tuned ordinary even.
Not sure if it's more noticeable in the R as my partners 7 GTI doesn't have quite the same lifeless pedal. Although I no longer enjoy driving it due to poor ride and perceived gutlessness.
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Just switched mine off as also going in for a service tomorrow. I don't like it switched off.
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I left mine switched on the last couple services.
The car is evil without it.
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I left mine switched on the last couple services.
The car is evil without it.
Mine is being collected for it's service which is making me very nervous. Last thing I wanted was to make the car unexpectedly livelier and cause an accident :sad:
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I left mine switched on the last couple services.
The car is evil without it.
Mine is being collected for it's service which is making me very nervous. Last thing I wanted was to make the car unexpectedly livelier and cause an accident :sad:
Best stay safe if that’s the case.
You don’t want the delivery driver enjoying himself too much!!
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Pedalbox+ just ordered for the R-line
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Finally got around to fitting my pedal box+ to the new GTI (~1,000kms). I knew what to expect, having run the 'box on a 2017 1.4 TSi, but nevertheless was delighted at how well it integrates with the GTI.
One benefit I haven't seen raised before is that now the throttle and brake pedals have a much more consistent feel and application. Pre-PB+ the brake pedal was sensitive, but the throttle pedal mushy. Now the feel across both pedals is much the same, leading to a more responsive and connected feel to the car.
My 7.5 GTI now has the same instant, responsive, muscular feel to small throttle inputs as my beloved mk5 GTI.
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Finally got around to fitting my pedal box+ to the new GTI (~1,000kms). I knew what to expect, having run the 'box on a 2017 1.4 TSi, but nevertheless was delighted at how well it integrates with the GTI.
One benefit I haven't seen raised before is that now the throttle and brake pedals have a much more consistent feel and application. Pre-PB+ the brake pedal was sensitive, but the throttle pedal mushy. Now the feel across both pedals is much the same, leading to a more responsive and connected feel to the car.
My 7.5 GTI now has the same instant, responsive, muscular feel to small throttle inputs as my beloved mk5 GTI.
Wouldn't want to be without mine now either! What settings are you using?
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So far only green with 3 green lights! Will experiment further, but very happy indeed even on that mildest of settings. Experimented with the full range of settings on my 1.4, but found green suited me the most in city driving.
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Recently had the pedal box fitted to my Mk7.5 230 GTI manual and I can whole-heartedly confirm the reports of others on here - it really does cure the one achilles heal of the car (the seriouasly mushy and unresponsive stock throttle pedal).
I'm currently running in Sport with one red light (not green light - on the new pedal box I have the three red lights increase whilst the three green lights decrease the effect - is this the opposite to earlier boxes??)
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Recently had the pedal box fitted to my Mk7.5 230 GTI manual and I can whole-heartedly confirm the reports of others on here - it really does cure the one achilles heal of the car (the seriouasly mushy and unresponsive stock throttle pedal).
I'm currently running in Sport with one red light (not green light - on the new pedal box I have the three red lights increase whilst the three green lights decrease the effect - is this the opposite to earlier boxes??)
Correct. On my pedal box+ extra green lights decrease the effect. For example, select green and each press of the "negative" button adds an extra green light up to a total of three. Pressing the "positive" button adds red lights. I don't know about the original pedal box, though.
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Recently had the pedal box fitted to my Mk7.5 230 GTI manual and I can whole-heartedly confirm the reports of others on here - it really does cure the one achilles heal of the car (the seriouasly mushy and unresponsive stock throttle pedal).
I'm currently running in Sport with one red light (not green light - on the new pedal box I have the three red lights increase whilst the three green lights decrease the effect - is this the opposite to earlier boxes??)
Correct. On my pedal box+ extra green lights decrease the effect. For example, select green and each press of the "negative" button adds an extra green light up to a total of three. Pressing the "positive" button adds red lights. I don't know about the original pedal box, though.
On the original, it’s the other way. Greens increase effect, reds decrease. My sweet spot with old box is Sport (amber) and 2 greens.
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How odd they should switch it round the other way with the pedal box plus.
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My thoughts exactly Booth (especially as it makes sense that green is for 'Go' or increase and red if for 'Stop' or decrease surely?)
But that's exactly what they've done.
Fortunately this slight foible aside, the new box is still superb.
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Red is a harsh warning colour so it makes sense to me that it’s for the more sensitive settings.
Green is softer and makes sense for a softer setting.
:lipsrsealed:
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How model specific are these pedal boxes? I.e. would a Mk7 GTi version be exactly the same as one for a Clubsport and other Mk7 golfs?
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Yes. My unit worked fine on both my 2017 Trendline and 2018 GTI. Both 7.5s.
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How model specific are these pedal boxes? I.e. would a Mk7 GTi version be exactly the same as one for a Clubsport and other Mk7 golfs?
I’ve used mine on a GTI, R, GTD and ed40.
The settings are adjustable enough to find a sweet spot with each engine but the actual throttle pedal electronics seem to be the same in all the models and I haven’t even used a different setting between any of those.
I sincerely doubt the FL cars use a different throttle pedal.
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I'm a bit late to the part I know but after picking up a pedal box from forum user JonLong on ebay I fitted it this afternoon.
Sport plus mode and then up a couple of notches spins the wheels in second gear with a stage 1 map. It's crazy!
City mode with a couple of notches is just fine :cool:
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I'm a bit late to the part I know but after picking up a pedal box from forum user JonLong on ebay I fitted it this afternoon.
Sport plus mode and then up a couple of notches spins the wheels in second gear with a stage 1 map. It's crazy!
City mode with a couple of notches is just fine :cool:
Dammit I was bidding on that too! Anyone else selling one, please let me know...
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I'm a bit late to the part I know but after picking up a pedal box from forum user JonLong on ebay I fitted it this afternoon.
Sport plus mode and then up a couple of notches spins the wheels in second gear with a stage 1 map. It's crazy!
City mode with a couple of notches is just fine :cool:
Dammit I was bidding on that too! Anyone else selling one, please let me know...
There are/were a couple for sale on VWROC very recently if you’re a member on there.
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The original Pedalbox has been retired and has been replaced by the Pedalbox + (without app control)
The Pedalbox Plus has been replaced by the Pedalbox+ with mobile phone app control ..
Details will be released late this week :), but to keep it simple the The Pedalbox+ is now available with or within mobile phone app control ..
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Just curious and apologies if this has been answered before but why don't VW group fit the correct throttle response from the factory? It seems crazy that it needs a third party modification to make the car as it should have been designed and delivered originally.
Has it got to do with emissions restrictions?
If it has, the government are going to crack on to these at some point.
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It doesn't seem to affect all cars. I don't see anything wrong with my throttle pedal but others do.
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im considering one of these for out mk7.5
never found it an issue on the clubsport S but the pedal is a bit inconsistent when pulling away on the normal GTI so would like to sort that
What setting do most people advise?
Thanks
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Mine is set to red +1 I think, could go to +3. The R really needs it. Due to the traction it’s very noticeable. Catapult standing starts :wink:
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I leave mine on the green "city" setting for urban driving. Have just returned from my 7.5 GTI's first major country trip and found the orange "sport" setting ideal for country roads, where the instant response could be enjoyed free of stop/start motoring. I find the fine tuning + and - buttons have little effect on each major setting (green, orange, red). I tend to shuffle between the major settings. But IMO the pedal box completely transforms the car. To the extent where I think I would be driving something else if it weren't for it.
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Thanks I’ll give one a go I think
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Thanks I’ll give one a go I think
Maybe worth popping over to DTUK at Tanfield and see Simon or Andrew they will more than likely have a car you could try to see if you like it or not.
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I have mine permanently set to sport with one green light. Sport + was a bit too much and I can't see the point in dropping from sport. The point of it to me is to fix the dead initial travel and once on it is down to my foot to judge depending on driving conditions. Thing is you get used to it very quickly so that it seems normal until the dreaded day when you have to switch it off and you remember just how bad the standard response is...
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Thanks I’ll give one a go I think
Maybe worth popping over to DTUK at Tanfield and see Simon or Andrew they will more than likely have a car you could try to see if you like it or not.
Hi Geoff
Yeah I’ll call over at some point - I’m away with work just now.
I see him around locally a bit and was hoping to catch him for a chat but kept missing him before I came away.
I’ll have a dodge over to their unit when I’m home though
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Another thing you may want to try to increase throttle response, is to put a piece of tape on the throttle. Only put enough on ( I found a piece of gorilla tape sufficient) that, as you put your foot on the throttle, it picks up immediately. Put too much on and the revs" hunt", also the hold won't work. I found it works :nerd:
Try for yourselves and let me know :smiley: (I have Pedal Box on sport -2)
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Another thing you may want to try to increase throttle response, is to put a piece of tape on the throttle. Only put enough on ( I found a piece of gorilla tape sufficient) that, as you put your foot on the throttle, it picks up immediately. Put too much on and the revs" hunt", also the hold won't work. I found it works :nerd:
Try for yourselves and let me know :smiley: (I have Pedal Box on sport -2)
Sorry, but you've lost me :grin: Do you mean put some tape on the face of the throttle pedal to make it thicker and effectively closer to the driver?
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:grin: No, between the top of the throttle pedal and the throttle position sensor :whistle:
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:grin: No, between the top of the throttle pedal and the throttle position sensor :whistle:
OK. I was hoping someone else would weigh in so I wouldn't have to expose my ignorance, but no such luck!
So here goes: I'm having trouble understanding how a piece of tape can have any effect on an electronic drive-by-wire throttle connection. I don't get it.
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:grin: No, between the top of the throttle pedal and the throttle position sensor :whistle:
OK. I was hoping someone else would weigh in so I wouldn't have to expose my ignorance, but no such luck!
So here goes: I'm having trouble understanding how a piece of tape can have any effect on an electronic drive-by-wire throttle connection. I don't get it.
Just takes up the slack when putting foot on throttle and the revs picking up :smiley:
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:grin: No, between the top of the throttle pedal and the throttle position sensor :whistle:
OK. I was hoping someone else would weigh in so I wouldn't have to expose my ignorance, but no such luck!
So here goes: I'm having trouble understanding how a piece of tape can have any effect on an electronic drive-by-wire throttle connection. I don't get it.
Just takes up the slack when putting foot on throttle and the revs picking up :smiley:
Cheers!
Any pictures?
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Hi guys not trying to hog the thread but look here if anyone interested
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=284717.0
Cheers for looking
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Hi Andrew. Wondering what the current forum discount is on the Pedal Boxes.
Looking at getting one for my imminently arriving GTI Performance. 😁
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Old thread to add to but didn’t want to start a new one.
Just spoken to my insurance company who are saying there’s no increase in my premium if I fit a pedal box. Nice!
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Win win, who are you with?
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Win win, who are you with?
Churchill. They were about £200 cheaper than the next cheapest I could get this year too. While phone call lasted 10 mins. Bonus.
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Bit of a thread revival.... Anyone know if the pedalbox is generic across the GTI/R? Or do they have different maps for the different engine outputs? Cheers
Edit, I've, re-read the thread again and find the answer - they appear to work across models.
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They have different maps.
I brought a 2nd kit and it didn’t feel right. I can’t remember what car my kit was for but the company sent me a software update for my car and it’s now fine. I think I contacted the German side of the company. English side wouldn’t help me at all.
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Bit of a thread revival.... Anyone know if the pedalbox is generic across the GTI/R? Or do they have different maps for the different engine outputs? Cheers
Edit, I've, re-read the thread again and find the answer - they appear to work across models.
It’s possible the units have slightly different maps but I used a MK7.5 PP GTI mode on my Clubsport for 4 years and it was fine. There are so many different map options you can fine tune any perceived difference - that my opinion based on my experience.
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Just for interest, I bought my PB for my Mk7 GTI, then put it on my son’s old Audi A3 1.6 ( which certainly wakened that up a bit) and now put on my 7.5 Performance. Worked well on all 3.
As OP says, you can fine tune using the buttons.
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Thanks all 👍