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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Snoopy on 02 April 2010, 14:28

Title: Paint on wing to a-pillar edge + door post
Post by: Snoopy on 02 April 2010, 14:28
Heres mine, please post pictures of yours for comparison.
Thank you
Geoff  :cry:

A-pillar blue paint only goes halfway to the edge of the wing edge.
Also not all way down the apillar odd.


(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00453.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00450a.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/winglip.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/winglip2.jpg)



Back of the front wings in the door jam area below the wing crease are grey
Note: the blue is mainly reflections


(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00531.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00528.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/rearwing.jpg)

Front wheel arches behind and in the strut turret are grey

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00448.jpg)


Boot floor (interior), why are some of my hooks blue at the seat side of the boot and some are grey at the back of the boot makes no sense.
Note the sound damping pads and grommits are black were other cars i have seen there coloured by body coloured paint
.

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00537.jpg)


Note: How my back panel in the below photo of the boot is white again with unpainted seam sealer in view. compared to the grey boot floor  :undecided:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00538.jpg)


Under the back of the car. Around the boot area, note the car only has 100 miles on in 99% dry conditions mainly white or grey with only slight hints of blue overspray in places

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00542.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00541.jpg)


Rear wheel arches (i think i spot a hint of blue overspray at last :grin: )

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00548.jpg)


Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: Hartside on 02 April 2010, 15:30
Stop worrying about something you cannot do anything about  :smiley:

Just get out there and get some serious driving done - go and enjoy your new car, it's a car some people can only dream about!  :cool:
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: Captain Sensible on 02 April 2010, 15:39
Stop worrying about something you cannot do anything about  :smiley:

Just get out there and get some serious driving done - go and enjoy your new car, it's a car some people can only dream about!  :cool:
I don't know I am quite shocked at what I am seeing. Is the first pictures the A pillers and is that a joint where it looks blue/green ?
Somehow it does not look right to me. Snoopy have you been to a dealer to look at Golfs in the show room. I have no idea how the other bits a are supposed to look
Your paying a premium price for a GTI so you expect a finished quality product.
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: FroGTI on 02 April 2010, 15:48
OK, Snoopy, I just went down to the garage to have a look at my car for you. First the 'good' news: my boot floor and other interior parts are just sprayed in primer like yours. Bad news: it looks as if your exterior body panels were painted by some guy on work experience, because the paint on my panels goes right round the 'corners'. From the outside, there are no visible signs of any primer or paint fade anywhere. Sorry mate, but at least you know now. If I were you, I'd take it back and reject the car while you still can. Any respraying at this stage is just going to be a botched job.
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: Snoopy on 02 April 2010, 16:09
FroGTI,
I did look at two GTDs in the same colour as yours outside my local dealer yesterday and there a-pillars were similar to mine just not quite as bad but not far off. Were the edge of the wing folds in theres a lip. This lip the body coloured paint only extends to around 75% its length, or in the case of mine ~50% Its only a very narrow lip. It does also seem the gap/fit of the wings to a-pillar varie wildly.  This paint issue was visable on the two GTDs and also a light gray 58 plate R32, a couple of others in non metallics this did not seem to effect or it may have been the light/fit i could not see it. (Mk6s are in short supply in the UK i had to goto two dealers to see these) I was also getting funny looks and parked in a bad place so i could not stay at this dealer too long for fear for my GTI.
I basically need to know if these paint points in my photos above, if this is the norm or not.
If it is, well i will just have to put up with it. If its a bad batch or something then thats a different matter. VW dealers from experience will just fob me off so i need the facts and info before i go and ask.
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: sundaydriver on 02 April 2010, 16:28
Snoopy, i was just the same as you with my red GTI, i hated the thought i had spent £22k on a brand new car and something was wrong with the paint. In the end and 1 month down the line it was rejected and they gave me a brand new white one. :wink:
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: am1w on 02 April 2010, 17:14
All my visible curves are fully covered in Tornado Red paint. Thankfully, I have no obvious grey bits, just a few hidden pink ones. :wink:
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: Snoopy on 02 April 2010, 17:18
am1w, fancy taking a few photos of said a-pillars and boot floor for me?

Sundaydriver, I understand, im worried this is the norm now though after seeing another similar to mine in a showroom and the rest of the paint on mine is spotless more or less.
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: am1w on 02 April 2010, 17:30
Snoopy:
I will get a camera and do my best to oblige.
I will also pop into my dealer showroom and look at a few cars.
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: p3asa on 02 April 2010, 19:28
Snoopy my paint at the gap of the A pillar is all complete as far as I can see. Although my gap appears a lot smaller than yours but this might just be because of the colour.

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/p3asa1/IMG_3437.jpg)

My boot is much the same as yours with very little paint and even then it is just overspray.

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/p3asa1/IMG_3443.jpg)

The end of my front wing viewed when the front door is open only has primer on it it.

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/p3asa1/IMG_3440.jpg)

I haven't paid any attention to the engine compartment but if the rest of the car is anything to go by I would imagine they would have been as sparse with the paint in there.

Yeah its annoying but to be honest I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Enjoy the great car you have.
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: FroGTI on 02 April 2010, 19:32
Although my gap appears a lot smaller than yours but this might just be because of the colour.

Nah, it's because the weedier engines are given the more flexible, B-grade chassis which requires massive shut lines :grin:
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: Snoopy on 02 April 2010, 20:03
Your boot with paint overspray is what i expected mine to be like but i don't even get the overspray. I would have been happy with what you got in the boot.

Your a-pillars i did notice the gaps varie wildly between cars  :huh: when i was looking. Yours do seem to have paint too the edges of the wings but it maybe the angle and your tighter gap.

Your door pillar/rear of wing look better than mine but i think you can see what i was on about there.

Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: p3asa on 02 April 2010, 20:08
This picture is of the same A frame gap but using a flash.
It looks like the paint stops before the end of the actual panel, however in daylight this isn't the case and it appears fully painted.
Could it not be a trick of the light with yours?

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/p3asa1/IMG_3438.jpg)
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: Snoopy on 02 April 2010, 20:11
Its not a trick of the light in my case as i can see mine with my eyes, Its the only reason i took the photo. I have also seen it on another cars at the dealer. I think the bigger gaps in mine does not help matters.
Your slight line maybe just a line of dirt or wax oil or something. :smiley:

Your rear panel in the boot? Is it like mine and white primer rather than the grey of the rest of the boot?
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: GolfTi on 02 April 2010, 20:16
This picture is of the same A frame gap but using a flash.
It looks like the paint stops before the end of the actual panel, however in daylight this isn't the case and it appears fully painted.
Could it not be a trick of the light with yours?

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/p3asa1/IMG_3438.jpg)

Needs a wash p3asa.
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: p3asa on 02 April 2010, 20:23
It was washed yesterday believe it or not.
Black certainly isn't the colour for UK winter roads  :cry:
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: GolfTi on 02 April 2010, 20:31
It was washed yesterday believe it or not.
Black certainly isn't the colour for UK winter roads  :cry:

I know what you mean. Looks fantastic when clean though.

I checked mine today after reading this post. All good.
The bottom of the boot is greyish - never noticed before and really don't mind.
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: adw555 on 03 April 2010, 09:00
so my first mk 6 gti was a metallic black and I remember seeing a small amount of grey primer on the back of the front wings when I opened the door..interestingly it's replacement is a candy white which has no primer visible here and the backs of the wings are fully painted ...mind you it's a better built car than the black one as the panel gaps are much tighter and consistent compared to the first one
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: Snoopy on 03 April 2010, 14:02
Others who have said theres is ok
Can i ask in this photo below is your back panel and tie hooks the same colour as the boot floor or white like mine or body coloured and is your seam sealer coloured or brown like mine?

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00538.jpg)
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: am1w on 03 April 2010, 16:09
Snoopy.

Still have not got a camera but this is what I have seen on my car.

(1) Boot - Grommets are painted with overspray and are maroon in colour as are the vibration pads. All surfaces in the boot have been sprayed. No grey or white bits. No running brown sealant. Fine by me.
(2) All exposed curved surfaces are perfectly covered with paint eg 'A' pillar and front wing interface.
(3) Inside front wings below 'A' pillars perfectly painted as are all internal 'B' wing/door panels.
Internal paint finish is excellent.
(4) I have not had the pleasure to look underneath but, for me, what I don't see I don't care about and let it bother me.
(5) There are no grey bits or white bits on the panels anywhere. All surfaces have 'paint'.

I have to admit that I am 100% happy with the finish and fit on my car.

Hope this helps and will enable you to decide on how you will proceed.
Title: Re: Let me see your grey bits. (Or non body coloured bits of your car)
Post by: Snoopy on 03 April 2010, 16:40
Can owners with camera phones or cameras please post pics to help me see what yours is like.
Thank you
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 05 April 2010, 17:12
bump.   :sad:
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Neil gti on 05 April 2010, 17:16
bump.   :sad:

you got my pics in other post Geoff  :wink:
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: GTD-Smurf on 05 April 2010, 17:42
Just had a Quick look at my GTD Carbon Grey No sign of any primer on A pillars, Boot area is Dark Grey Primer finish, inside Doors were Hinges are partley sprayed body colour more dark primer showing  than body colour paint, under wheel arches Behind plastic Liner is also primer coloured Guess these items are down to cost cutting ?? or Have i got a Duff one aswell  :angry:
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 05 April 2010, 18:22
1) The main concern i have is the wing to a-pillar. the top edge of the wings.
Theres a lip of a few milimeteres at the top of the wing. The inner couple of mm of this lip of the wing that im most interested in. You have to look down onto it rather than straight at it. As it curves down alittle.

It seems that for the first mm or so its body coloured then the last mm or so, or in my cars case ~2mm its like a grey speckled grey? This ratio varies from car to car or in my case wing to wing!

This photo below is of my passenger side one and its got far more blue on than the drivers side.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/winglip.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/winglip2.jpg)

2) the back of the front wings rather than the hinges/door. The rear of the front wings basically on the ribbed bits (you can see them as you open the door a little just before its first catch either inside of the car or like my photos better from the outside looking down toward it from the other side of the door.
Or by looking through the panel gap from the outside with the door shut at the rear of the wing.


(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/rearwing.jpg)
 
The main concern i have is the wing a-pillar ones the lip inner lip edge of the a-pillars that im most interested in. You have to look down onto it rather than straight at it too see some of them. This panel gap varies wildly between cars too so some you can see better than others.

The question i need answering is of all the ones i have seen so far have i just been unluckie and seen duff ones or is whats on my car normal?
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: p3eps on 05 April 2010, 18:26
Just had a look at my courtesy Golf Plus whilst outside playing with Vagcom!  I took photos, but because its black its impossible to see on my camera phone.
My A-pillar has black paint curving round, then about 2mm inside is rough looking primer.  Its pretty tricky to see.

I had a look in my boot floor too... it is all gold primer.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 05 April 2010, 19:01
Thanks.
Peeps so the + is the same too  :cry:
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: p3eps on 05 April 2010, 19:03
Thanks.
Peeps so the + is the same too  :cry:

Yep... its a general Golf thing by the look of it.  You'll need to find a Passat / Polo / Toureg or something in the street and have a lookie!!
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 05 April 2010, 19:08
I wish i had bought my car local as i would be interested to here what a dealer has to say.  :sad:

For a product thats marketed as prestige, superior with a premium price  :undecided:
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Saint Steve on 05 April 2010, 19:14
I have a pink Boot floor in the boot of my Mk5.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: am1w on 05 April 2010, 19:17
Snoops:
I am 100% in agreement with you. It is not right. I, myself, would not and could not accept this.
What would I do? I would use the Warranty and get these bits fixed by VW. It is not a huge job and I am sure a good sprayer would sort this easily. The car would be in the bodyshop for just 2 to 3 days.
Worth it, especially as this is causing you unnecessary distress.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 05 April 2010, 19:45
I have an ex-painter in the family but his eyes have gone  :grin: but he was basically saying a dealer/bodyshop would probably just titi-vate it up or they may make the wings/doors worse trying to blend it in, he said he would not let them do it if it was his, he would just put up with it or do a quick flash with a can down that hole / back of wings or touch it up with a pen to help hide it. Rather than risk the v.good finish on the rest of the wing.
Or reject it and take a risk of getting a new one that could be worse and even have orange peal finish on the panels.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: am1w on 05 April 2010, 20:28
---do a quick flash with a can down that hole / back of wings or touch it up with a pen to help hind it.

That is what I meant. Do the minimum. Less is more in this case.
A re-spray would be a disaster. Been there. It was a mess.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: p3asa on 05 April 2010, 22:26
Or reject it and take a risk of getting a new one that could be worse and even have orange peal finish on the panels.

You mean like this?!
In real life this looks as smooth as glass but I happened to be taking a picture of a ding (which is now sorted) and this part was taken out of focus but it shows the extent of orange peel the golf suffers. 

Thankfully though it is nothing like that in reality.

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/p3asa1/orangepeel2.jpg)
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 06 April 2010, 15:38
Yes, they do seem to suffer badly, especially the hatch. Mine luckly has damb good paint finish i was suprised how good. Well apart from the grey bits :grin:
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: p3asa on 06 April 2010, 16:16
Just don't take any out of focus pictures and you'll be fine  :laugh:
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: VeeDubDan on 07 April 2010, 12:42
Just thinking out loud, but could your car have been damaged and repaired prior to delivery?  It's not uncommon for a car to be damaged in transit and repaired without the new owner being told.  Of course if the repairs (new wing?) haven't been done to the highest standard that might explain why the paint isn't fully reaching the edge of the panels.

Is it just one wing that is the issue or are there a few panels causing concern?

Might be be worth trying to get a shot of a paint thickness gauge.  Any good professional detailer will have one and would be able to give guidance on the correct thickness of paint on a non repainted car.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 08 April 2010, 17:35
Both front wings the drivers is worse than the passengers. Most my photos are of the better one :wink:

The thing is mine are quite bad but from loooking at other mk6 and mk5's they all suffer it to a degree just mines nearly the worst ive seen.

Must admit when i first spotted the top of the wings join with the a-pillar and the rear of the wing in the door shut area i did think it had been badly repaired!
That was until i got too see the state of others at the dealers  :shocked: to then spot that the mk5 suffers the a-pillar join too back to 2005 was a shocker that no one had ever pointed it out i found astounding!
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Gazdebaz on 08 April 2010, 17:52
Gent's, a few of us have noticed the orange peel paintwork, have a look at this past topic.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=134513.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=134513.0)
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 10 April 2010, 17:51
A couple more from my car today since it stopped raining for a change.
Im sure after seeing other cars mine not the only one come on guys get your cameras out.  :grin:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00584.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00586.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00588.jpg)
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: am1w on 10 April 2010, 19:01
Snoops:
You will have some pictures either tomorow or Monday.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: am1w on 11 April 2010, 18:27
Snoops:
Some pictures for you as promised!

Boot Hook 1.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/IMG00237-20100411-1638.jpg)

Boot Hook 2.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/IMG00234-20100411-1637.jpg)

Inside Door/Wing Interface.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/IMG00225-20100411-1633.jpg)

'A' Pillar
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/IMG00226-20100411-1633.jpg)

Front Door Sill Plate
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/IMG00224-20100411-1632.jpg)

Rear Door Sill Plate
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/IMG00233-20100411-1636.jpg)

Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: p3eps on 27 April 2010, 06:58
Sorry to drag this back up... but I was round at my mates house on Sunday and he has a 56' plate R32 - which is black.
I checked the paint on the A-frame and its exactly the same as all the others.  About 3mm of normal paint visible, then it changes to primer.
I also checked mine, which is the same, but its much harder to notice on silver as the primer is almost the same colour!  You can just see that it changes from metallic on dull paint.

Definately looks like this isn't a 'problem' as such - just VW being cheap and lazy... and that they've been doing it for at least the last 4-5 years!!
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: adw555 on 27 April 2010, 07:53
is it worse on perl/metallic colours?...my perl black mk 6 had a little of it, but my candy white has none...and neither does it look like that red one above....odd?
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: am1w on 27 April 2010, 11:10
is it worse on perl/metallic colours?...my perl black mk 6 had a little of it, but my candy white has none...and neither does it look like that red one above....odd?

Don't know what you mean by this, but I have no paint issues with my car, except for a pink boot! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 27 April 2010, 18:55
I was at a VW dealer last week and i had another look at a couple. White is hard to spot due to the white undercoat but it is there. 2 red ones were not as bad but you could see the pink espeically on the rear of the wings.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: adw555 on 27 April 2010, 21:37
is it worse on perl/metallic colours?...my perl black mk 6 had a little of it, but my candy white has none...and neither does it look like that red one above....odd?

Don't know what you mean by this, but I have no paint issues with my car, except for a pink boot! :rolleyes:

Sorry, badly worded on my part...I meant neither my Candy white nor that lovely red one seem to have the issue.. :-)
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: am1w on 27 April 2010, 21:42
is it worse on perl/metallic colours?...my perl black mk 6 had a little of it, but my candy white has none...and neither does it look like that red one above....odd?
Don't know what you mean by this, but I have no paint issues with my car, except for a pink boot! :rolleyes:
Sorry, badly worded on my part...I meant neither my Candy white nor that lovely red one seem to have the issue.. :-)


I was very worried that my car was on the blink! :wink: :grin:
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: johnson6672 on 15 May 2010, 13:28
Just been reading though this, and you may be pleased to know that the boot is the same on a MK4, can't see any other probs though and the hooks are sprayed but it is just overspray.
The MK2 however is painted all the way though i think. :grin:

However the A pillar paint i would not stand for, as you said you have paid a premium and expect quality!!
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 15 May 2010, 13:37
I have been onto VW customer service and they have a PDF of mine with lots of photos of my car.
I have to go see a local dealer to get there paint specialist (hes only there on week days and normal working type hours) to have a look but i have had problems getting time off work and when i have had time off family priorities have take the time up (Im sick of putting the car first have done for 7 months!!!)


I had hoped a few more may have posted photos of there mk6 by now  :sad:
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: ajmoir36 on 15 May 2010, 15:40
Snoops:
Some pictures for you as promised!

Boot Hook 1.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/IMG00237-20100411-1638.jpg)

Boot Hook 2.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/IMG00234-20100411-1637.jpg)

Inside Door/Wing Interface.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/IMG00225-20100411-1633.jpg)

'A' Pillar
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/IMG00226-20100411-1633.jpg)


Mine is exactly the same as this.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 01 August 2010, 10:47
A few more i noticed   :cry:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/MK6%20Golf/paint1.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/MK6%20Golf/DSC00679.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/MK6%20Golf/DSC00678.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/MK6%20Golf/DSC00680.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/MK6%20Golf/DSC00681.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/MK6%20Golf/DSC00682.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/MK6%20Golf/DSC00683.jpg)


Im really questioning if the paint on mine is really right  :sad: or substandard  :cry:

The problem is i still have not been able to get time off work!!!!  :angry:
As i had to use a weeks worth of this years holiday entitlement last year to try and sort the car order/delivery mess out back then, and we are so busy and run off our feet at work at the moment.

Times getting on and i have to work out if this is normal or not.  :undecided: :cry:
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: mike. on 01 August 2010, 14:56
 Mine looks the same. why would you want to paint in there anyway?
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: am1w on 01 August 2010, 16:31
Just checked mine. Seems quite well covered. However, the paint thickness is extremely thin in places and can be scratched off quite easily.
I've seen some metallic coloured cars where the covering is not as good as mine.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 01 August 2010, 17:07
Mine looks the same. why would you want to paint in there anyway?
Mike what colour is your car ?
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: mike. on 01 August 2010, 17:46
It's Red, took some pics for you..  :smiley:

Looks exactly the same, probably painted by the same robot. :laugh:

(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/paint1.jpg)
(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/paint2.jpg)
(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/paint3.jpg)
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 01 August 2010, 17:59
Thank you, :smiley:
Mine does seem to really shows up alot in real life more than the photos because of the undercoat light colour compared to the dark blue.
The first photo i posted It was that first bolt of the wing that my eye court when checking the oil this morning then the inner wing and bonnet strut mount as theres little blue round it.  Yours does look similar a little pinkish were mines whitish.

Thank you for taking the time to take the photos its much apreciated.
Geoff.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Hartside on 01 August 2010, 19:45
The area behind the coolant bottle and battery box seem better covered on mine, with even a decent gloss lacquer finish on them. Bottom box section looks exactly the same:

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l12/hartside/Colin%20T/P1020874.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l12/hartside/Colin%20T/P1020873.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l12/hartside/Colin%20T/P1020872.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l12/hartside/Colin%20T/P1020871.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l12/hartside/Colin%20T/P1020870.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l12/hartside/Colin%20T/P1020875.jpg)

Sorry, but it's hard to see with the Carbon Grey colour, but the top half looks better.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: am1w on 01 August 2010, 20:35
Snoops: I have checked inside my engine compartment very carefully and apart from the inside of the front wings, all painted surfaces are perfectly covered with 'glossy' bright red paint. No 'pink' bits. Better than mikeT.'s car also. Sorry mikeT..
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 01 August 2010, 20:54
Hartside
Thank you for taking the time to take the photos it is very much apreciated. :smiley:
Geoff
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: RickS on 02 August 2010, 13:18
Haven't got any pics to post just now, but my car is "fully painted". No missing paint on seams/back of doors etc. If I were you I'd go back and show it to the dealer.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: PenguinGTI on 02 August 2010, 13:22
I've been a while responding to this topic. My car is perfectly painted in all the areas you have shown. In the engine bay I have a strong red (with no hint of primer or uncoated metal) and in the boot my car has a definite red tinge (although it seems to be more like over spray that a purposeful coat). Most importantly for me every aspect of the doors and door frames seems well enough painted.

My only issue with the paintwork now is stone chips! But after 26k miles it's hardly a fault of the car.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 03 August 2010, 18:09
Heres a light blue 09 reg golf TDI from work. Its not as noticable and hard to catch with a camera.

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/pillar.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/doorpillar.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/boot.jpg)


I had a look under the bonnet too and its similar to mine just nowere near as bad, Its also not that noticable partly due to the light colour and light undercoat you probably would not see it if i was not looking for it (would have took photos but batterys dies) I hope to get some later.



Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 05 August 2010, 18:08
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/DSC00718.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/DSC00719.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/DSC00727.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/DSC00730.jpg)

Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: am1w on 05 August 2010, 18:40
Snoops: Do you think this is more of a problem with metallic painted cars?
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 05 August 2010, 18:42
I think its to do with what colour undercoat they use compared to the colour of the car if it shows up or not easily  :grin: . Maybe one robots is just a lazy so and so compared to another  :grin:
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: am1w on 05 August 2010, 18:46
I think its to do with what colour undercoat they use compared to the colour of the car if it shows up or not easily  :grin: Maybe one robots is just a lazy so and so compared to another  :grin:

I don't think that German robot likes a colour so close to 'Royal Blue'. But we won the war!! :evil:
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 05 August 2010, 18:49
 :grin: This light blue one it hardly shows at all compared to mine (only the strong sunlight helped it today). Mine has far less body colour coverage than this one and due to the colour shade differences on mine between undercoat and body colour it really shows up on mine unlike this one.
Silver, white and red it will be much harder to spot due to undercoat colour. Even black with the dark yellowish undercoat its harder to see. I think the grey uses dark yellow undercoat too from memory of James Gould's.
 
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: bobotheclown on 09 August 2010, 16:03
possibly a cost sutting excercise?
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 10 August 2010, 18:19
Well i guess they got away with the a-pillars/wing bit on the mk5 so thought why not go abit further.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Wayne on 04 October 2010, 09:12
 :shocked: I guess this shows where VW are saving money.

Did you get it sorted in the end.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 07 October 2010, 07:45
I was told this is normal and they are all like this.  :shocked:
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: am1w on 07 October 2010, 10:33
The usual stock/crap reply from Vankerwagen. 'Ve have vays to make you go crazy'.
They are experts as p!ss takers and super wainkers technically IM0. :angry:
 
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Wayne on 08 October 2010, 23:51
I was told this is normal and they are all like this.  :shocked:

Shocking really for a new car.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 09 October 2010, 09:13
I read on here the new ones the engine bay is now only in a gray primer matt type finish.  :undecided:
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Wayne on 09 October 2010, 10:10
I read on here the new ones the engine bay is now only in a gray primer matt type finish.  :undecided:

Bad move really, Mercedes tried saving money by not painting certain areas and look what happened with the rust issues.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: am1w on 09 October 2010, 10:32
Being really cynical here: it seems by the time 2011 cars roll off the production line, they'll come in an undercoat only. This should reduce VW's colour range drastically.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 09 October 2010, 11:31
Bad move really, Mercedes tried saving money by not painting certain areas and look what happened with the rust issues.
It is painted just sad to say not body colour like i would have expected. Mk5's are similar and seem to not be rusting in the main from the ones i have seen. A place up from ours has stripped an early mk5 recently for parts so i went to have a nose round it and once you start digging, removing wings etc etc its 99.5% similar paint finish/type wise to how they have done the mk6.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Adam on 11 October 2010, 13:08
I read on here the new ones the engine bay is now only in a gray primer matt type finish.  :undecided:

Bad move really, Mercedes tried saving money by not painting certain areas and look what happened with the rust issues.

+1 The Mercedes next door is a mess. Wonder if this will happen to the MK6?
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Wayne on 11 October 2010, 23:54
I read on here the new ones the engine bay is now only in a gray primer matt type finish.  :undecided:

Bad move really, Mercedes tried saving money by not painting certain areas and look what happened with the rust issues.

+1 The Mercedes next door is a mess. Wonder if this will happen to the MK6?

A good friend of mine had a C class that at 2 years old needed both front wings, a crossmember and bootlid.

He got lucky in seeing the old wings when they were removed, most of the back was just primered metal, yes they saved money on painting costs but that was soon eaten up in warranty.

Dad has just got a 09 plate Ford (sorry to use the word) and that is fully painted from what I can see including under the bonnet, if Ford can manage it makes you wonder why VW don't, considering the cost of the car new and the market it is aimed at.
Title: Re: Photo HELP! please, A-pillars, rear of wings, boot back panels/foor Is this norm
Post by: Snoopy on 10 February 2011, 22:12
Just been told that Mill VW have had quite a few mk6's in recently to be painted as customers had noticed the lack of paint in certain areas and complained.