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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: jonnyturbo on 08 April 2011, 20:43
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As above what Porsche model do I need to salvage brakes from and what is needed to convert them to fit on a mk4 golf. I know Dave off ukmivs is the bracket man but does he refurb them ? Thanks
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You can get brackets from creation motorsport I believe.
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u need boster s fronts only or lcr front
ave just had mine refurbished by the brake caliper company 120 quid was a friggin awesome job...
brackets for the boxster s only avaible through dave b creation only do the mk5 brackets and the porsche rears.
think dave still ont he scene he does the brackets lines and discs for 300
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ive got boxster S rear calipers, 312mm disc's, brackets and braided lines for mine.
plenty of places do the mounting brackets on ebay mate. Keep on eye on edition38 as there always for sale on there.
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I believe Porsche 966 brakes will work on the mk4.
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i had the boxster s rears on my there were absolutely shyte pistons dont match the master cylinder there too small and too much fade
the LCR and the boxster S Fronts are the same pistons and are more suited to the mk4 master cylinder, you get a oem pedal feel and no fade unlike the boxster s rears.
am running a 365mm disc with the LCR brakes ferroodo pads and the stopping power is basically a toe curl.
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Im also looking at Porsche brakes seen loads for sale.. I've been looking 996 fronts with 312 or 330 disks and ds2500 pads along with braided lines..
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Pricey though eh? :undecided:
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do any of the evo brembo's fit the mk4
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Am I right in thinkin lcr front brakes are brembo's
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Am I right in thinkin lcr front brakes are brembo's
Yep :smiley:
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Am I right in thinkin lcr front brakes are brembo's
Correct.
Oh many have said the Porka rear brakes from a Boxster S are utter useless....discuss :)
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do any of the evo brembo's fit the mk4
I'm guessing not as they're 4wd and the mk4 isn't?
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They are indeed they are aparently 'ok' brakes a lot of the guys on seatcupra.net are running uprated pads and standards ones are sh!te.. and uprated hoses and disks.. DS2500 pads seems to be highest rated..
Bob the porsches are prices but they dont wear out so fast as the all uprated can even get ceramic pads :cool: and they much better over standard brakes.. plus im gona need them soon
Coxster S rears are sh!te because the pistons are tiny compared to the coxster s fronts.. from what ive read though any porsche callipers can be made to fit all you need is the adaptors and hoses..
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Talking of large brembos, here's some I fitted last week (not to a golf though)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/mhar737/30ef6550.jpg)
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damn, looks like i have some brakes to go on the car that wont be any good.
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I now have some Boxster S fronts on their way with 312mm EBC discs.. Just need mounting kit.. Anyone know anywhere cheaper than Awesome GTI ??
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u do know if u use a boxser S FRONT with a 312mm disc u wll about 5 mm of pad over hang which will eventually which forms a ridge on the pad and can break off in chunks when hot besides that its a MOT fail you need a 330 disc
get the disc from a mg zt 2.5 v6 and then u need them redrilled at 5 x 100 google crn products they do it including redrilling for 120
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how big are the pistons on the Boxster S front calipers and rear calipers? Ive seen alot of people using the 3.2 S rear calipers with no issues.
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Cheers for that i have heard about the overhang and read threads on ukmkiv's and none of them have had MOT fail as someone bought it up in a thread i will take my chances.. I cant afford the cost of replacint 330 discs !!
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how big are the pistons on the Boxster S front calipers and rear calipers? Ive seen alot of people using the 3.2 S rear calipers with no issues.
36 and 40
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is that mm on the front?
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No it's meters!
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Nad - was asking for the piston sizes both front and rear, so didnt know if you was quoting the front mm size of the rear.
Fookin big stoppers your running if they are meters, did 18" wheels fit over the brakes.lol
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Nad - was asking for the piston sizes both front and rear, so didnt know if you was quoting the front mm size of the rear.
Fookin big stoppers your running if they are meters, did 18" wheels fit over the brakes.lol
i know sorry i was just takign the wee wee..
fronts are 36 and 40 mm am pretty sure you gotto to reverse the connector pipes over though as these are mounted at the front of the wheel as appose to the back of the wheel on porsches if you see what i mean otherwise your pads will be f**ked..
best way to do is to put them on the floor next to each other and just diagonally swap the bottom left pipe with top right nipples and top bottom right pipe with top left nipples then your good to go ..
best off to get a 11mm bleed spanner too it basically stops the nipples from rounding....
Here comes a dispute am sure but porsche calipers on golf mk4s are a completely head f**k lots of peopel due to putting the calipers on the front of the wheel and changing pistons over end up with squeeky pads mine drove me mad, and this is isnt with cheap pads its with ALL PADS i tried 10 diff sets and the squeak me and Dave B figured was due to crossing the pipes which has to be done anyway....
then theres the discs which are only available in 5 x 100 if they are custom drilled, theres also no disc screw in them so when you change your wheel its a pain in the arse lining the disc spacer and wheel ups for the bolt to go through, unless you have a post, then your faffing about crossing caliper pipes over and using spacers to space the calipers, just cudnt be arsed...
apaprantly these work with 312s but the whole point of big brakes is to get the best of the brakes so running boxster fronts with 312 discs and having 10mm pad over hang is hardly a great Big Brake upgrade not to mention to run them you need tiny spacers made to space the caliper out and then you need longer caliper bolts its just a total pain in the arse.... whats the point???.....
am sure peopel will differ i respect that i dont wanna start world war 3 so tech before you jump on this thread am just giving my opinion although the same problems have been discussed on various other forums
these are more available though, you can get the discs all day long pads all day long plus there proven to work as there off a leon cupra by factory,
i also got them refurbed in a slightly different red which is a bit orangy but stands out its a straight through colour whichlooks the lickkkkkkkkkkkk i did the rears with today aswell, i did however put the decal on the wrong way am pretty sure iys supposed to read from bottom to top on both calipers, having said that the alpha we have says alpha on its brembos bottom to op on passenger side and top to bottom on drivers and there factory made brembos
(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/nadlad/IMG_0918.jpg)
(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/nadlad/IMG_0917.jpg)
(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/nadlad/IMG_0916.jpg)
(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/nadlad/IMG_0915.jpg)
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i forgot to add another plus of the cupra ones are that you dotn need any spacers my wheels clear the calipers by about 4mm they do ertrude out quite a lot so am guessign it depends ont he wheel too.
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You are very true mate.. And have read many discussions and lots of forums about this.. You are right the cupra brakes are the best bet but are a lot more expensive than the porsche ones ive seen sets on ebay for £500 without braided hoses and pads etc.. I know running the 312mm disks is not ideal as you get 5mm pad overhang which may break off over time but the jump in price from 312 to 323 or 330 discs is a lot of money for in my eyes cant see much difference in 10mm ??
Are yours cupra r brakes bud ?? Also what pads you running ??
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Also they look :cool: :cool:
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yeah there cupra r 225 brembos
brembo discs or ebc and the drilled n grooves are the right way accordign to the manufacturer
am using ferrodo pads
hell braided lines
Get your hell lines direct from hell there 33 quid delivered just tell them golf mk4 fitment to brembo calipers online there 65 delivered everywhere
ave got another set of discs which are 356mm along with a spacer kit that will enable me to run the 356mm disk on this same setup but i just wanted to see how the 323 are and there feckign awesome....
cupra r brembos go for more as there are a lot harder to get hold of then porsche calipers.
one think i like about the LCR brembos is that as they are 2 piece theres them 4 big f**k off bolt holds one side to the other through the calipers they make em look beefy whereas the Porsche ones are monoblock calipers
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think im gonna end up sticking these Boxster 3.2s rears on mine with the 312mm disc's. I aint fussed about a bit of brake fade, it cant be that bad if many people run them.
Nad - your brakes do look well sat behind the wheels. Did you get the brembo's refurbed at Godspeed? They do the colour or did you pick it?
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Cheers for help on hell lines.. Where did you get your adaptors and how much mate ?? I do fancy running bigger discs but might aswell get adaptors for 312 and then get Spacers for 330 once I've killed these discs..
Ferrodo seem the way forward where you get yours from ??
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i got mine off the guy who broke his cupra r 225 they came with
- Braided lines
323mm discs (new)
Ferrodo pads
Caliper Adapters
Brembo Calipers - complete with shims pins seals etc
He also gave me the complete rear setup too which were 256 calipers, carriers, discs and pads so straight bolt on kit
All for a measly £280.00 clearly didnt know what he was selling..
i then sold my existing vrs 312 fronts and 256 rears for 350.00 LOL
LOVE U FORUM GUYS
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Ave got this exact disc its a 2 piece 355mm setup oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh boy
(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/nadlad/FERRARI5.jpg)
(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/nadlad/Image023.jpg)
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2 piece rotors are the way forward :smiley:
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Anyone know where to get adaptors at a cheap price.. Creation are out of stock for 4-5 weeks.. ??
Spoke to my mate who has the cayenne brakes fitted hes good friends with DaveB and he said dave is only doing brakes for friends now not anyone else.. so he is out of the question..
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if u got boxster s front then creation dont sell the adapters for them calipers they only do the rear porker caliper adapters if u pm dav he will get u the adapters but only if u buy discs with it
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So as i have discs is there anywhere to get the adaptors ?? :undecided:
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doubt it
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just read the whole thread and slightly confuysed whats the best porshe breaks to use with other parts i have 18s on my car and want to fill them out wth breaks also can you se porshe on ther rears