Mk 8 Golf

[fredgroves]

and for us private buyers, if it breaks the £40k barrier then we have the massively increased road fund licence to deal with for the 1st 5 years as well.

That's already happening... my M135i is £370 more for initial VED after 1st April 2020... and christ knows what extra for each year and that's without breaking the mythical "expensive car" barrier of £40k.

TBH its not even about "private buyers" even because all of these costs get lumped onto company car drivers usually - unless you are one of those lucky few who just get the lease paid and only catch the P11D hit.... not many of those any more!

[mcmaddy]

£320 extra per year Fred and all new cars had a first registration fee hike. The TCR I'm buying is £550 first year but then back to £145 or whatever it'll be with inflation after that.

[fredgroves]

If its registered after 1st April is in the new "WLTP regime", which means the (higher) WLTP figure is used against the old Co2 scale - your Golf will jump a few brackets upwards...

They decided not to rescale it...

[Jim_mk7.5]

Finally, an actual picture of the new GTI! EDIT - just seen this on the other GTI thread 

https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf-gti/22866/new-volkswagen-golf-gti-leaked-ahead-of-reveal?_mout=1&utm_campaign=evo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter

[dean5125]

Finally, an actual picture of the new GTI! EDIT - just seen this on the other GTI thread 

https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf-gti/22866/new-volkswagen-golf-gti-leaked-ahead-of-reveal?_mout=1&utm_campaign=evo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter

I had seen this on the other thread but I'm not convinced I like it!! I don't like the wheels, I really don't like the exhausts compared to the 7.5 and is that really the actual standard rear spoiler? I think it's too big! plus the whole GTI below the VW badge.... thanks but no thanks, I'll stick with what I have!

I don't suppose there are any definite front end images yet are there? I've seen the GTE vid and can't imagine it being a million miles from that but I actually quite like that but I still don't think it compares to the 7.5!!

[fredgroves]

No complaints from me on that rear.

Arguably the rear is the best looking part of the Mk8.... its the front that is questionable.

Hopefully that spoiler is actually the stock one for the Performance not just the TCR...

[david25]

That's a big spoiler!

[Sootchucker]

So I was just reading something on the Government website regarding VED from April 2020 and the new WLTP Co2 figures (which it seems are yet to be published for all manufacturers).

According to that site, based on initial figures, it suggests that CO2 figures for most petrol and diesel cars will rise by about 15-20% under the new WLTP tests. It further goes on to say, that it could mean for instance, that a car that had a CO2 figure under the older NEDC figures of 145g/km, could now rise to as much as 174g/km, meaning that would push first year VED from the current £210 up to a wapping £855 (an increase of £645).

So according to the BMW specs. the new M135I X Drive has CO2 figures of  155-162g/km under the old NEDC figures, so only needs no nudge to 171g/km or more to be in the £855 VED bracket. Is that correct, if so bloody hell.

Weirdly, it seems irrespective of how much CO2 it produces, the 2nd year on VED is only £145 unless the list price on the car is over £40k when an additional £320 on top of the £145 will be levied until the car is 5 years old.

Does that sound about right ? I assume if you already own the car and it was registered before April 2020, you will continue to pay the £145 per year ?

[SRGTD]

So I was just reading something on the Government website regarding VED from April 2020 and the new WLTP Co2 figures (which it seems are yet to be published for all manufacturers).

According to that site, based on initial figures, it suggests that CO2 figures for most petrol and diesel cars will rise by about 15-20% under the new WLTP tests. It further goes on to say, that it could mean for instance, that a car that had a CO2 figure under the older NEDC figures of 145g/km, could now rise to as much as 174g/km, meaning that would push first year VED from the current £210 up to a wapping £855 (an increase of £645).

So according to the BMW specs. the new M135I X Drive has CO2 figures of  155-162g/km under the old NEDC figures, so only needs no nudge to 171g/km or more to be in the £855 VED bracket. Is that correct, if so bloody hell.

Weirdly, it seems irrespective of how much CO2 it produces, the 2nd year on VED is only £145 unless the list price on the car is over £40k when an additional £320 on top of the £145 will be levied until the car is 5 years old.

Does that sound about right ? I assume if you already own the car and it was registered before April 2020, you will continue to pay the £145 per year ?

That’s my understanding. VW are actually showing the WLTP CO2 figures in the configurator; at the engine selection stage in the configurator, clicking on ‘more information’ for the engine selected will show the WLTP CO2 figure. For the Polo GTI+, this has increased from 138 g/km NEDC to 160 g/km WLTP, so a 16% increase. The revised CO2 figure means the first year VED increases from £220 to £530 - an increase of £310 - and then it’s £145 annually after that.

For cars with a list price over £40k the higher penal rate applies for five years after the first year - so until the car is six years old, not until it’s five years old.

[fredgroves]

So, the M135i goes from £530 to £855 after 1st April because of the WLTP figures as you say above. After that, at the moment its the same subsequent cost as (sub 40k RRP)vehicles from 2017-2019.