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Title: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 02 November 2014, 18:25
Hi everyone, long time reader first time poster.

I currently own a 11 plate 3 door Mk6 GTD in Black, its got 30k miles and i love it! I am thinking of doing the following upgrades too it:

- Carbon chip tuning remap to around 200bhp.
- Front xenons/drls
- These BBS alloys http://www.wheelbasealloys.com/alloy-wheels/bbs/sr/grey/18-inch

Other than that i'd keep it stock.

HOWEVER... and here is my dilemma...

I live in the city centre (manchester), however im from down south so only make the 200 mile trip every few months, which the diesel is great for, however, with all the town driving i do i'd quite like to swap it for a GTI  :smug:

I'd preferably like an identical car, black, 3 door, similar mileage, maybe with leather instead of cloth though.
Currently, i have my eyes on these two GTI's...

http://www.vindisgroup.com/car-details/volkswagen_golf_gtigtdr_mk6_hatchback_3-dr_604580047.html

and

http://www.marshallweb.co.uk/volkswagen/used-cars/53042/volkswagen-golf/

However, the GTI in the first link looks to be a strange shade of grey too me? I thought the only grey offered by VW was 'carbon steel grey', however, when compared these two gti's look a different shade, the second one being much darker (which i prefer).

Would just like all your opinions on whether i should swap my GTD for the GTI or not, and those greys! I would be getting some of those BBS alloys for the GTI as well.

Cheers, everyone!
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: legg360 on 02 November 2014, 18:42
Your auto trader link don't work but you are advertising your postcode tho
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 02 November 2014, 18:54
Your auto trader link don't work but you are advertising your postcode tho

its cool i live in a block of 200 flats  :drool:

cheers though, weblink amended now should work.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: golfhappy on 02 November 2014, 19:25
Keep the GTD.....I have my reasons!  :grin:
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: Booth11 on 02 November 2014, 19:38
Welcome to the forum yabot  :smiley:

So far as I know mk6 GTI was available in 2 different greys - Steel Grey and Carbon Grey.  Steel grey is the lighter of the two, wihilst Carbon Grey is a fair bit darker, closer to black.  To confuse matters carbon grey often gets called Carbon Steel Grey (CSG) due to differing names in different markets. 

It's possible the car in the first link is Steel Grey but difficult to tell. They could both be carbon grey, maybe it's just the lighting in the photos making them look different.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: golfhappy on 02 November 2014, 19:43
You'll be lucky to swap. The Marshal car is a 10 plate but has no rear LEDS. Bedford advert states LED day time running lights, no it hasn't. Hmmm stick to the remap, wheels and go for those xenon/drls that jayGTD has fitted, they're miles cheaper than the OEM and just as good. That's my opinion  :smiley: A rear GTI valance and twin outlet exhaust and you'll be really sorted  :grin:
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: Booth11 on 02 November 2014, 19:56
This pic shows the two colours.  Top pics are Carbon Grey, bottom pics are Steel Grey (also called United Grey in foreign markets)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5597/15508598077_c16ef2b0a7_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/booth11/15508598077/)

Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 02 November 2014, 19:58
You'll be lucky to swap. The Marshal car is a 10 plate but has no rear LEDS. Bedford advert states LED day time running lights, no it hasn't. Hmmm stick to the remap, wheels and go for those xenon/drls that jayGTD has fitted, they're miles cheaper than the OEM and just as good. That's my opinion  :smiley: A rear GTI valance and twin outlet exhaust and you'll be really sorted  :grin:

Yeah only thing is is i have absolutely no idea how to code for the Xenons... im pretty handy at figuring things out and a little technical but i'd be too scared to try any of the coding so kinda need to find somewhere that will do that for me.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 02 November 2014, 19:59
This pic shows the two colours.  Top pics are Carbon Grey, bottom pics are Steel Grey (also called United Grey in foreign markets)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5597/15508598077_c16ef2b0a7_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/booth11/15508598077/)

Ah sweet, thanks for that. See there i dont mind the lower one! I'm going to get the dealership to send through a few more pictures as im not convinced on the colour of it, maybe cameras off or lighting i dont know!
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 02 November 2014, 20:03
You'll be lucky to swap. The Marshal car is a 10 plate but has no rear LEDS. Bedford advert states LED day time running lights, no it hasn't. Hmmm stick to the remap, wheels and go for those xenon/drls that jayGTD has fitted, they're miles cheaper than the OEM and just as good. That's my opinion  :smiley: A rear GTI valance and twin outlet exhaust and you'll be really sorted  :grin:

Yeah the rear LED''s are a must have so i'd have to get them fitted... does have a sunroof though  :smug: great in manchester :P.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: Snoopy on 02 November 2014, 20:09
If it was me id stick with the known quantity thats your GTD.
have a look at the photo thread at the top of the forum. Iirc both grey colours are shown there too. Just checked both shown on the first page of that thread.

Both the cars you linked too look carbon to me i would put that down to lighting.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 02 November 2014, 20:31
If it was me id stick with the known quantity thats your GTD.
have a look at the photo thread at the top of the forum. Iirc both grey colours are shown there too. Just checked both shown on the first page of that thread.

Both the cars you linked too look carbon to me i would put that down to lighting.

I'm being retarded... where is the photo thread sorry? Could you possibly link it? Thanks pal
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: Snoopy on 02 November 2014, 20:39
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=158784.0
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: Snooze on 02 November 2014, 21:16
You should get a Gti with 18's too. The 17's look naff imo.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 02 November 2014, 21:50
You should get a Gti with 18's too. The 17's look naff imo.

yeah i think they do, got the 17's on my gtd and they need to go! think i'll be looking at getting the BBS anthracite ones or 35 Edition alloys in anthracite 18's whether i stick with the GTD or go with the GTI.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: golfhappy on 02 November 2014, 22:39
Those BBS do look like the ED35 alloys, either way they're a good upgrade.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: JayGTD on 03 November 2014, 10:30
Swap it in for the GTI mate. I have installed the HID LED DRL xenons on my GTD and I also have a carbon chiptuning remap plus a GTI backbox with the twin tailpipes. Can't fault the remap - it's amazing and the car pulls like heck but I honestly wish I'd have gone for a GTI or R instead now. Now that I can afford it, I'm considering swapping my gtd in for an R, or keep saving for an F30 M3, but I'm a bit of a boyracer.

The xenons took me forever to install properly.
You have either the OEM route which will cost you 4 figures and too much labour, or aftermarket reps which will cost you about £450. The coding is a pain in the ass cos every car is different somehow, and you also need to rewire your harness to get the LED's working as DRL's (cos they are wired as sidelights) which then you also need more coding for. Thankfully got mine all up and running but it still kicks out errors every now and then which is really annoying

If I would do it all over again, I would've just bought a GTI ed35 or one with xenons spec'd in and do a K04 turbo stage 3 for 300+bhp. I've pretty much maxed out my GTD - I could do a turbo swap from darksidedevelopment and get it to 350bhp but then it'll just throw soot everywhere everytime I accelerate

Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: GTIoxford on 03 November 2014, 11:08
Yabot!

Drop me a message. My close friend is soon to be selling his GTi and is yet to advertise it. I reckon you might be interested, its a good one!

Thanks
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 03 November 2014, 12:10
Swap it in for the GTI mate. I have installed the HID LED DRL xenons on my GTD and I also have a carbon chiptuning remap plus a GTI backbox with the twin tailpipes. Can't fault the remap - it's amazing and the car pulls like heck but I honestly wish I'd have gone for a GTI or R instead now. Now that I can afford it, I'm considering swapping my gtd in for an R, or keep saving for an F30 M3, but I'm a bit of a boyracer.

The xenons took me forever to install properly.
You have either the OEM route which will cost you 4 figures and too much labour, or aftermarket reps which will cost you about £450. The coding is a pain in the ass cos every car is different somehow, and you also need to rewire your harness to get the LED's working as DRL's (cos they are wired as sidelights) which then you also need more coding for. Thankfully got mine all up and running but it still kicks out errors every now and then which is really annoying

If I would do it all over again, I would've just bought a GTI ed35 or one with xenons spec'd in and do a K04 turbo stage 3 for 300+bhp. I've pretty much maxed out my GTD - I could do a turbo swap from darksidedevelopment and get it to 350bhp but then it'll just throw soot everywhere everytime I accelerate

Ah see that's what I'm fearing, that I'll always regret it! Either way though I'll have to take the Aftermarket route with the xenons as I won't be able to afford it on the car equipped. Just will have to pay off someone to do it properly for me I guess, as I'm still a noob  :huh: :huh:

Out of interest how you finding the carbon remap? Any issues? What's it like in 3rd 4th etc? And is the power delivery more instant now?

Cheers pal.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: JayGTD on 03 November 2014, 12:56
Swap it in for the GTI mate. I have installed the HID LED DRL xenons on my GTD and I also have a carbon chiptuning remap plus a GTI backbox with the twin tailpipes. Can't fault the remap - it's amazing and the car pulls like heck but I honestly wish I'd have gone for a GTI or R instead now. Now that I can afford it, I'm considering swapping my gtd in for an R, or keep saving for an F30 M3, but I'm a bit of a boyracer.

The xenons took me forever to install properly.
You have either the OEM route which will cost you 4 figures and too much labour, or aftermarket reps which will cost you about £450. The coding is a pain in the ass cos every car is different somehow, and you also need to rewire your harness to get the LED's working as DRL's (cos they are wired as sidelights) which then you also need more coding for. Thankfully got mine all up and running but it still kicks out errors every now and then which is really annoying

If I would do it all over again, I would've just bought a GTI ed35 or one with xenons spec'd in and do a K04 turbo stage 3 for 300+bhp. I've pretty much maxed out my GTD - I could do a turbo swap from darksidedevelopment and get it to 350bhp but then it'll just throw soot everywhere everytime I accelerate

Ah see that's what I'm fearing, that I'll always regret it! Either way though I'll have to take the Aftermarket route with the xenons as I won't be able to afford it on the car equipped. Just will have to pay off someone to do it properly for me I guess, as I'm still a noob  :huh: :huh:

Out of interest how you finding the carbon remap? Any issues? What's it like in 3rd 4th etc? And is the power delivery more instant now?

Cheers pal.

Yep..i regret going diesel no matter how fantastic the GTD is. Problem was I thought I'd be relocating for my job so I bought a commuter, turns out I ended up 10 mins down the A1 lol.

The install for the xenons is really easy - took me 30 mins taking off the front bumper and switching out the headlamps. The hardest part is detaching the stock harness cos theyre stuck on pretty well. The worst part comes after with the coding. I could send you the codes I used when you get em if you like

The remap is really good: Revo remap is really aggressive and I thought that in the long run it probably would be damaging to the internals cos you get all the power in one massive lump then nothing further up. For Carbon's, its very smooth, very drivable and very easy to adapt to. Acceleration is best in 2nd and 3rd gear and you have so much torque that if you drive it aggressively you'll get wheel-spin even in 3rd gear. I dyno'd mine and I got 220bhp and 450 NM torque (ish), 0-60 takes 6.1 seconds on average, and you do get a slight bit of lag lower down the rev range but it kicks in really fast and holds the power until just before the redline, almost like a petrol. I've had car enthusiast friends who own evo 8, C63 amg and e92 m3 take my car for a spin and they couldn't believe how smooth the map was

But even then, I still wish I went for a GTI

Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 03 November 2014, 18:04
Yabot!

Drop me a message. My close friend is soon to be selling his GTi and is yet to advertise it. I reckon you might be interested, its a good one!

Thanks

I couldnt figure out how to message.... :embarrassed: but as long as its 3door, dark coloured, preferably manual and under around 45k miles or so yes then i am interested thanks pal :P.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 03 November 2014, 18:06
Swap it in for the GTI mate. I have installed the HID LED DRL xenons on my GTD and I also have a carbon chiptuning remap plus a GTI backbox with the twin tailpipes. Can't fault the remap - it's amazing and the car pulls like heck but I honestly wish I'd have gone for a GTI or R instead now. Now that I can afford it, I'm considering swapping my gtd in for an R, or keep saving for an F30 M3, but I'm a bit of a boyracer.

The xenons took me forever to install properly.
You have either the OEM route which will cost you 4 figures and too much labour, or aftermarket reps which will cost you about £450. The coding is a pain in the ass cos every car is different somehow, and you also need to rewire your harness to get the LED's working as DRL's (cos they are wired as sidelights) which then you also need more coding for. Thankfully got mine all up and running but it still kicks out errors every now and then which is really annoying

If I would do it all over again, I would've just bought a GTI ed35 or one with xenons spec'd in and do a K04 turbo stage 3 for 300+bhp. I've pretty much maxed out my GTD - I could do a turbo swap from darksidedevelopment and get it to 350bhp but then it'll just throw soot everywhere everytime I accelerate

Ah see that's what I'm fearing, that I'll always regret it! Either way though I'll have to take the Aftermarket route with the xenons as I won't be able to afford it on the car equipped. Just will have to pay off someone to do it properly for me I guess, as I'm still a noob  :huh: :huh:

Out of interest how you finding the carbon remap? Any issues? What's it like in 3rd 4th etc? And is the power delivery more instant now?

Cheers pal.

Yep..i regret going diesel no matter how fantastic the GTD is. Problem was I thought I'd be relocating for my job so I bought a commuter, turns out I ended up 10 mins down the A1 lol.

The install for the xenons is really easy - took me 30 mins taking off the front bumper and switching out the headlamps. The hardest part is detaching the stock harness cos theyre stuck on pretty well. The worst part comes after with the coding. I could send you the codes I used when you get em if you like

The remap is really good: Revo remap is really aggressive and I thought that in the long run it probably would be damaging to the internals cos you get all the power in one massive lump then nothing further up. For Carbon's, its very smooth, very drivable and very easy to adapt to. Acceleration is best in 2nd and 3rd gear and you have so much torque that if you drive it aggressively you'll get wheel-spin even in 3rd gear. I dyno'd mine and I got 220bhp and 450 NM torque (ish), 0-60 takes 6.1 seconds on average, and you do get a slight bit of lag lower down the rev range but it kicks in really fast and holds the power until just before the redline, almost like a petrol. I've had car enthusiast friends who own evo 8, C63 amg and e92 m3 take my car for a spin and they couldn't believe how smooth the map was

But even then, I still wish I went for a GTI

Sounds basically the same as the predicament i got myself into... thought i'd be doing alot more miles.

See i would probably settle for just around 200bhp because im scared i'll damage the car... how did your insurance take it btw?

Would much appreciate the coding, however i have no idea how to use the VAGCOM software (i believe its called) or where to get it etc... literally.... like no clue dude.

cheers.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: JayGTD on 04 November 2014, 08:11
Swap it in for the GTI mate. I have installed the HID LED DRL xenons on my GTD and I also have a carbon chiptuning remap plus a GTI backbox with the twin tailpipes. Can't fault the remap - it's amazing and the car pulls like heck but I honestly wish I'd have gone for a GTI or R instead now. Now that I can afford it, I'm considering swapping my gtd in for an R, or keep saving for an F30 M3, but I'm a bit of a boyracer.

The xenons took me forever to install properly.
You have either the OEM route which will cost you 4 figures and too much labour, or aftermarket reps which will cost you about £450. The coding is a pain in the ass cos every car is different somehow, and you also need to rewire your harness to get the LED's working as DRL's (cos they are wired as sidelights) which then you also need more coding for. Thankfully got mine all up and running but it still kicks out errors every now and then which is really annoying

If I would do it all over again, I would've just bought a GTI ed35 or one with xenons spec'd in and do a K04 turbo stage 3 for 300+bhp. I've pretty much maxed out my GTD - I could do a turbo swap from darksidedevelopment and get it to 350bhp but then it'll just throw soot everywhere everytime I accelerate

Ah see that's what I'm fearing, that I'll always regret it! Either way though I'll have to take the Aftermarket route with the xenons as I won't be able to afford it on the car equipped. Just will have to pay off someone to do it properly for me I guess, as I'm still a noob  :huh: :huh:

Out of interest how you finding the carbon remap? Any issues? What's it like in 3rd 4th etc? And is the power delivery more instant now?

Cheers pal.

Yep..i regret going diesel no matter how fantastic the GTD is. Problem was I thought I'd be relocating for my job so I bought a commuter, turns out I ended up 10 mins down the A1 lol.

The install for the xenons is really easy - took me 30 mins taking off the front bumper and switching out the headlamps. The hardest part is detaching the stock harness cos theyre stuck on pretty well. The worst part comes after with the coding. I could send you the codes I used when you get em if you like

The remap is really good: Revo remap is really aggressive and I thought that in the long run it probably would be damaging to the internals cos you get all the power in one massive lump then nothing further up. For Carbon's, its very smooth, very drivable and very easy to adapt to. Acceleration is best in 2nd and 3rd gear and you have so much torque that if you drive it aggressively you'll get wheel-spin even in 3rd gear. I dyno'd mine and I got 220bhp and 450 NM torque (ish), 0-60 takes 6.1 seconds on average, and you do get a slight bit of lag lower down the rev range but it kicks in really fast and holds the power until just before the redline, almost like a petrol. I've had car enthusiast friends who own evo 8, C63 amg and e92 m3 take my car for a spin and they couldn't believe how smooth the map was

But even then, I still wish I went for a GTI

Sounds basically the same as the predicament i got myself into... thought i'd be doing alot more miles.

See i would probably settle for just around 200bhp because im scared i'll damage the car... how did your insurance take it btw?

Would much appreciate the coding, however i have no idea how to use the VAGCOM software (i believe its called) or where to get it etc... literally.... like no clue dude.

cheers.

Aye haha. My insurance basically went up to £300 a year and I'm only 22! They weren't too bothered about any of the mods unless I was changing the looks of it to make it more likely to be stolen, which is why I haven't got new wheels. They took the remap better than the springs haha

Sure, I'll post em up when you need em. Someone on here sent me a cable for free cos they bought a cheap one off amazon and wasn't working for them, but thankfully it worked for me. A real VCDS Vagcom cable off Rosstech would cost you quite a pretty penny! All you do is plug it into your OBD2 port in your car and then a USB in your laptop, fire up the software, then follow the instructions
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 04 November 2014, 09:32


Aye haha. My insurance basically went up to £300 a year and I'm only 22! They weren't too bothered about any of the mods unless I was changing the looks of it to make it more likely to be stolen, which is why I haven't got new wheels. They took the remap better than the springs haha

Sure, I'll post em up when you need em. Someone on here sent me a cable for free cos they bought a cheap one off amazon and wasn't working for them, but thankfully it worked for me. A real VCDS Vagcom cable off Rosstech would cost you quite a pretty penny! All you do is plug it into your OBD2 port in your car and then a USB in your laptop, fire up the software, then follow the instructions
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UP TO? Im same age but mines like £900 a year... who you with!? Guess me crashing my first car into a national railway bridge doesnt help  :sad:

Ah i see, sounds like i'll need to invest a day in it though! Better find a cable...
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: JayGTD on 04 November 2014, 10:26
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UP TO? Im same age but mines like £900 a year... who you with!? Guess me crashing my first car into a national railway bridge doesnt help  :sad:

Ah i see, sounds like i'll need to invest a day in it though! Better find a cable...

Yep! Well, £346 or something like that. I'm with Elephant, perfect driving history and live in a low risk area. My first car I paid over £3000 though, a megane 250 RS. The golf is my 4th car so I guess its reduced a lot of the risk. Damn man..feel sorry for you! Howd you manage that?

http://store.ross-tech.com/shop/cat/VCDS.html

Here you go mate, heres the official one
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 04 November 2014, 12:20

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Yep! Well, £346 or something like that. I'm with Elephant, perfect driving history and live in a low risk area. My first car I paid over £3000 though, a megane 250 RS. The golf is my 4th car so I guess its reduced a lot of the risk. Damn man..feel sorry for you! Howd you manage that?

http://store.ross-tech.com/shop/cat/VCDS.html

Here you go mate, heres the official one
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Was perhaps driving a little fast in my suzuki swift....
Well sh!t the bed, they aren't half expensive... will have to order one off ebay or amazon, hah!
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: JayGTD on 04 November 2014, 12:40

Was perhaps driving a little fast in my suzuki swift....
Well sh!t the bed, they aren't half expensive... will have to order one off ebay or amazon, hah!

Oh aye, cheap as chips! Get a fake one off Amazon for £40 and see if you have any luck. As far as I know, they're on-off. For me it worked for all the things I needed it for for the xenons but now it doesn't work at all anymore..if it was me I would've gotten a real one though. you get all the support and updates and stuff, and less risk of the cable frying your usb port
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 04 November 2014, 14:06

Was perhaps driving a little fast in my suzuki swift....
Well sh!t the bed, they aren't half expensive... will have to order one off ebay or amazon, hah!

Oh aye, cheap as chips! Get a fake one off Amazon for £40 and see if you have any luck. As far as I know, they're on-off. For me it worked for all the things I needed it for for the xenons but now it doesn't work at all anymore..if it was me I would've gotten a real one though. you get all the support and updates and stuff, and less risk of the cable frying your usb port

I think i might just look for someone on here that has one and would be willing to do it for me.... and then offer them maybe a tank of fuel or something....
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: JayGTD on 04 November 2014, 14:30

Was perhaps driving a little fast in my suzuki swift....
Well sh!t the bed, they aren't half expensive... will have to order one off ebay or amazon, hah!

Oh aye, cheap as chips! Get a fake one off Amazon for £40 and see if you have any luck. As far as I know, they're on-off. For me it worked for all the things I needed it for for the xenons but now it doesn't work at all anymore..if it was me I would've gotten a real one though. you get all the support and updates and stuff, and less risk of the cable frying your usb port

I think i might just look for someone on here that has one and would be willing to do it for me.... and then offer them maybe a tank of fuel or something....

If my cable worked I would've done that for you! Sorry man :( good luck
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 04 November 2014, 16:38
So im going to see this on Sat...

http://video.citnow.com/vtQdvk_7-c1

£14990. 36k Miles.
RNS 510 and Optical parking sensors.

Hoping for a straight swap as mine is the same just a GTD with less mileage!

I may very well be driving away in a GTI....  :smug:
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: dubber36 on 04 November 2014, 17:02
I thought you wanted xenons? Personally I'd hold out for the car with the spec you want. I made the mistake with my Passat, thinking that I would retro fit them. Now when it comes down to it, I can't bring myself to part with the money.

If you do go for that car, make sure you keep the mats and MDI leads out of your GTD, as I doubt there will be any in the new car, every tho' there should be with it being an Approved Used.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 04 November 2014, 17:24
I thought you wanted xenons? Personally I'd hold out for the car with the spec you want. I made the mistake with my Passat, thinking that I would retro fit them. Now when it comes down to it, I can't bring myself to part with the money.

If you do go for that car, make sure you keep the mats and MDI leads out of your GTD, as I doubt there will be any in the new car, every tho' there should be with it being an Approved Used.

Yeah i do, but i've been looking for a few months now, and whilst xenons are rare enough its been impossible to find them on a car in my price range. i'll probably get them from xenonz.co.uk and then see if i can tempt someone off here with a free tank of fuel to fit them for me, my only option really.

and yeah, having spent £90 on a cable for my iphone6... for it not to work... i will most certainly be taking all of that with me hah but yeah cheers pal.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: JayGTD on 05 November 2014, 08:19
I thought you wanted xenons? Personally I'd hold out for the car with the spec you want. I made the mistake with my Passat, thinking that I would retro fit them. Now when it comes down to it, I can't bring myself to part with the money.

If you do go for that car, make sure you keep the mats and MDI leads out of your GTD, as I doubt there will be any in the new car, every tho' there should be with it being an Approved Used.

Yeah i do, but i've been looking for a few months now, and whilst xenons are rare enough its been impossible to find them on a car in my price range. i'll probably get them from xenonz.co.uk and then see if i can tempt someone off here with a free tank of fuel to fit them for me, my only option really.

and yeah, having spent £90 on a cable for my iphone6... for it not to work... i will most certainly be taking all of that with me hah but yeah cheers pal.

Dude wait for one with factory fitted xenons! If not grab yourself an Ed35! or how about buy me that GTI and ill swap you my GTD for it :p
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 05 November 2014, 14:02

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Dude wait for one with factory fitted xenons! If not grab yourself an Ed35! or how about buy me that GTI and ill swap you my GTD for it :p
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Whats your reasoning for holding out for a factory one though? No problems etc?

I was going to order a set from Xenonz.co.uk and then these guys http://www.vagtechnik.co.uk/ have said they will fit them for £130... however they are not sure about the MOT pass rate on them and i may need looms from kufertec? (no idea what that is...)

Seem like a good deal? Obviously if it aint gonna pass MOT then i wont be going that route... whats your thoughts?
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Post by: dubber36 on 05 November 2014, 15:36
My reasoning for holding out for a car with them is that copies will still be copies.

I've said many times before, the aftermarket HID kits that are fitted in them do not give full power straight away, so are not suitable for flashing. Also I've yet to see aftermarket LEDs that match OEM ones. They all seem to have too much blue in them. The other concern I'd have is the beam pattern from the projectors. I'm sure they will be fine, but I'd doubt they'd be as good as the OEM ones that are designed to be used with gas discharge burners.

The MOT question I answered in your other thread.

If you do decide to get them, you won't need the Kufatec harnesses. These are only needed if you are fitting genuine OEM lights into a car that left the factory with halogens.

Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: JayGTD on 05 November 2014, 17:23

Whats your reasoning for holding out for a factory one though? No problems etc?

I was going to order a set from Xenonz.co.uk and then these guys http://www.vagtechnik.co.uk/ have said they will fit them for £130... however they are not sure about the MOT pass rate on them and i may need looms from kufertec? (no idea what that is...)

Seem like a good deal? Obviously if it aint gonna pass MOT then i wont be going that route... whats your thoughts?

No problems..but just like dubber said, copies will always be copies and it's just not worth the trouble. My next cars from now on will without a doubt always be xenon specc'ed. This is my first halogen car

MOT was just fine with these on. Beam pattern, allignment, everything was fine and this was from VW dealers themselves. You don't need the looms at all..if theyre gonna charge you £130 i'd do it for you for £100!! except i wouldnt cos it'll take me 30 mins to install but a month to code. Guarantee they wont code it right. If i were you, do the research on vwgolf.net.au and also golfmk6.com. plenty of guys have these and every single one has trouble coding. Just search for ed's replicas

Only do it if you are very 100% sure you know what needs doing and how to do it and how the headlamps are wired (the LED's are physically wired as the sidelights - if you just install it, the LED's dont behave like OEM) The codes that xenonz send you do absolutely nothing
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Post by: yabot on 05 November 2014, 17:57
thanks for the feedback.

so from the sounds of it i dont need to worry so much about the MOT... i dont mind the blue tint they have and actually quite like it, and i only flash people every now and then so thats not too much of a problem either.

JayGTD, i dont mean this to come across as rude at all so please dont take it like that! But if you've coded for yours surely you'd do a faster job on mine... especially with that £100 incentive ;). As i said dont take that rude just crap with words haha. Also do yours work like OEM now? I just want the LED's to be like permanently on really...

I've done alot of research on both of those and have screen shotted alot of the information and coding they have given ready to hand to the guys that im going to go and see... i would really love to tackle it myself... but owning a Mac and this being the first ever modification i make to a car i just don't have the confidence to attempt it.

much thanks.
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Post by: JayGTD on 05 November 2014, 21:12
thanks for the feedback.

so from the sounds of it i dont need to worry so much about the MOT... i dont mind the blue tint they have and actually quite like it, and i only flash people every now and then so thats not too much of a problem either.

JayGTD, i dont mean this to come across as rude at all so please dont take it like that! But if you've coded for yours surely you'd do a faster job on mine... especially with that £100 incentive ;). As i said dont take that rude just crap with words haha. Also do yours work like OEM now? I just want the LED's to be like permanently on really...

I've done alot of research on both of those and have screen shotted alot of the information and coding they have given ready to hand to the guys that im going to go and see... i would really love to tackle it myself... but owning a Mac and this being the first ever modification i make to a car i just don't have the confidence to attempt it.

much thanks.

Nope! No worries about MOT at all dude. The blue tint isn't even blue..it's more like ice white. Tbh, the latest Mercs and Audi's out there with standard factory xenons are even more blue lol, even my girlfriend says so. It's only blue-ish at the cut off point due to the projectors

Nah dude not rude at all! Forums are for helping each other out! I totally would if it was easy to do haha. Plus my vagcom cable doesn't work anymore which is why I still haven't coded out the odd error that pops up every now and then. Mine does indeed work as OEM, my LED's are permanently on.

Before I had jumped the pins, basically to get the LED on during the day you have to have your lights switched on to the sidelight option which also turns on your rear lights and your plate lights, making you look like a right tool from behind. Before you do this, essentially your ECU will go crazy and throw errors all over the place because it is missing the DRL circuit and it assumes the bulbs have blown, so you have to code that out. You can't totally rely on the Golfmk6.com forums because they're american - not being racist - their cars are coded differently. Their rear fogs and reverse lights are switched around, so if you follow their coding exactly you will lose your rear fog function and also your reverse lights will go haywire..........see what I mean? You literally have to play with a tonne of different combinations before you can get it all to work properly and that took me about a month to do and it still throws up error codes every so often!

But who am i to say eh, maybe your guys can get it to work. They'll be pros at this stuff

The codes i used are:
Byte 14 check bit 3
Byte 15 Check bit 6 and 7
Byte 19 set to inactive bulb life extender (88)
Byte 24 check bit 7
Byte 27 check bit 2
Byte 18 (04 GTI rest of world)

This will only work for you too if you have rear LED tails and LED plate lights

Wish you best of luck dude
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Post by: yabot on 05 November 2014, 21:25
thanks for the feedback.

so from the sounds of it i dont need to worry so much about the MOT... i dont mind the blue tint they have and actually quite like it, and i only flash people every now and then so thats not too much of a problem either.

JayGTD, i dont mean this to come across as rude at all so please dont take it like that! But if you've coded for yours surely you'd do a faster job on mine... especially with that £100 incentive ;). As i said dont take that rude just crap with words haha. Also do yours work like OEM now? I just want the LED's to be like permanently on really...

I've done alot of research on both of those and have screen shotted alot of the information and coding they have given ready to hand to the guys that im going to go and see... i would really love to tackle it myself... but owning a Mac and this being the first ever modification i make to a car i just don't have the confidence to attempt it.

much thanks.

Nope! No worries about MOT at all dude. The blue tint isn't even blue..it's more like ice white. Tbh, the latest Mercs and Audi's out there with standard factory xenons are even more blue lol, even my girlfriend says so. It's only blue-ish at the cut off point due to the projectors

Nah dude not rude at all! Forums are for helping each other out! I totally would if it was easy to do haha. Plus my vagcom cable doesn't work anymore which is why I still haven't coded out the odd error that pops up every now and then. Mine does indeed work as OEM, my LED's are permanently on.

Before I had jumped the pins, basically to get the LED on during the day you have to have your lights switched on to the sidelight option which also turns on your rear lights and your plate lights, making you look like a right tool from behind. Before you do this, essentially your ECU will go crazy and throw errors all over the place because it is missing the DRL circuit and it assumes the bulbs have blown, so you have to code that out. You can't totally rely on the Golfmk6.com forums because they're american - not being racist - their cars are coded differently. Their rear fogs and reverse lights are switched around, so if you follow their coding exactly you will lose your rear fog function and also your reverse lights will go haywire..........see what I mean? You literally have to play with a tonne of different combinations before you can get it all to work properly and that took me about a month to do and it still throws up error codes every so often!

But who am i to say eh, maybe your guys can get it to work. They'll be pros at this stuff

The codes i used are:
Byte 14 check bit 3
Byte 15 Check bit 6 and 7
Byte 19 set to inactive bulb life extender (88)
Byte 24 check bit 7
Byte 27 check bit 2
Byte 18 (04 GTI rest of world)

This will only work for you too if you have rear LED tails and LED plate lights

Wish you best of luck dude

Thanks a bunch man, i guess each time error codes come up i'll have to take it back though. Hopefully should have all this done in about 3/4 weeks time...

thanks again.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: golfhappy on 06 November 2014, 17:41
JayGTD when your lights do throw an error, do you know what code it is? Or when it does throw a code is it when you switch the lights on? Do you ever get an error from turning the car on?
Cheers
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Post by: JayGTD on 07 November 2014, 08:16
JayGTD when your lights do throw an error, do you know what code it is? Or when it does throw a code is it when you switch the lights on? Do you ever get an error from turning the car on?
Cheers

No idea cos my vagcom cable broke. I know exactly how to fix it though, it's byte 18. No errors when you turn your car on, until your main beam comes on then 'front left side light' is 90% on.
When the temperature is below 4 deg then 'check number plate bulbs' comes on around 50% of the time (this is because mine are LED's, but they don't throw an error usually because I have the resistors plugged in too)
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Post by: golfhappy on 07 November 2014, 13:18
Yeh that sounds like mine. Byte 18 is set to 04 on mine. Mines are the OEMs with the kufatec harnesses. When the garage put on Vagcom the left hand side light was at 90% and when you flick the lights back and forward the measuring block drops to 0%. They reckoned on a new switch, which i did get and didn't work so i got one without auto and its better. Always seems to be better if you let the modules wake up!
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Post by: JayGTD on 07 November 2014, 14:15
Yeh that sounds like mine. Byte 18 is set to 04 on mine. Mines are the OEMs with the kufatec harnesses. When the garage put on Vagcom the left hand side light was at 90% and when you flick the lights back and forward the measuring block drops to 0%. They reckoned on a new switch, which i did get and didn't work so i got one without auto and its better. Always seems to be better if you let the modules wake up!

Ahhh! So the OEM's and the reps both have the same error problems....interesting...from now on all my cars will be xenon spec'd without a doubt! Anyway, doesn't really bother me much anymore. I told my VW dealers to ignore it and theyre more than happy to when they service and MOT the car
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Post by: yabot on 07 November 2014, 14:29
So im picking up a GTI tomorrow.. the one with the funny grey in the links on the first page.

Paying £700 for it, however i managed to get this out the dealer

Full tank
Paint protection
New tyres
Fresh Mot

It also has the RNS510 and bluetooth which mine didnt and winter pack, so when i come to install the xenons i will have headlamp washers anyway  :rolleyes:

Still prefer the deep pearl black... but i do like carbon steel grey... now just to start saving again for some decent alloys...  :grin:
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Post by: JayGTD on 07 November 2014, 14:33
So im picking up a GTI tomorrow.. the one with the funny grey in the links on the first page.

Paying £700 for it, however i managed to get this out the dealer

Full tank
Paint protection
New tyres
Fresh Mot

It also has the RNS510 and bluetooth which mine didnt and winter pack, so when i come to install the xenons i will have headlamp washers anyway  :rolleyes:

Still prefer the deep pearl black... but i do like carbon steel grey... now just to start saving again for some decent alloys...  :grin:

Nice one, I may even do the same! Wonder how much mine will be worth.....
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Post by: yabot on 07 November 2014, 16:20


Nice one, I may even do the same! Wonder how much mine will be worth.....
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Hah we'll i'll let you know. I love the GTD but for small miles it gets worse MPG than the GTI so i thought why not. And yours well... the dealer is offering 14.4 for mine without seeing it, heres my specs so you could guesstimate yours:

3 door
paint protection
mint alloys
rcd510
cruise control
optical parking sensors
30k miles.
2 owners, full vw service history.

So i reckon yours will go for more what with those nice xenons you have nd all ;)
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Post by: golfhappy on 07 November 2014, 18:37
I know when i asked about trading mine in they wanted it back to standard. JayGTD does have a standard GTI rear, exhausts and diffuser so they might be ok with that. Plus with the error bulb thing the next owner will be back at the dealers!
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Post by: JayGTD on 07 November 2014, 22:06
I know when i asked about trading mine in they wanted it back to standard. JayGTD does have a standard GTI rear, exhausts and diffuser so they might be ok with that. Plus with the error bulb thing the next owner will be back at the dealers!

They even offered to fit it for me! I just found somewhere cheaper thats all hahaha. I reckon I could have the car back to standard in a few days. The errors would disappear with the standard headlamps back in. Tempting.......but i think the sensible thing to do is keep this for a potential future family car and just keep saving for a house deposit.........then blow the rest of my money on an M3 or M4
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Post by: yabot on 08 November 2014, 22:33
So i love the GTI....  :evil:

Picked it up today... had more miles than advertised though hmmm.... advertised at 36k... but had 39.5k.... My only gripe though!!
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Post by: Booth11 on 08 November 2014, 23:00
So i love the GTI....  :evil:

Picked it up today... had more miles than advertised though hmmm.... advertised at 36k... but had 39.5k.... My only gripe though!!

Nice one.  Did you get price knocked down for the higher mileage?

Pics?? :whistle:
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Post by: yabot on 09 November 2014, 00:19
So i love the GTI....  :evil:

Picked it up today... had more miles than advertised though hmmm.... advertised at 36k... but had 39.5k.... My only gripe though!!

Nice one.  Did you get price knocked down for the higher mileage?

Pics?? :whistle:

Hmmm no, but im happy with all the extras i got over what mine had. I went back in and asked him why it had higher mileage than advertised and he was said 'I'll go find the business manager' 2 mins later came back down and said he couldnt find him... its a little bit annoying, but i suppose 40k miles on a car these days aint too bad... is it? :S.

Will post some pics tomorrow... I need new alloys though... there rank haha. But i love the engine!!  :laugh:
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Post by: golfhappy on 09 November 2014, 08:27
Welcome to the "World of car salesmen!" I like it when the front man (salesman) goes back and forward to the business manager, he'll always find him then! when your trying to negotiate a better deal. Obviously he either cant be trusted to do the deal by himself  :grin:
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Post by: yabot on 09 November 2014, 12:58
Welcome to the "World of car salesmen!" I like it when the front man (salesman) goes back and forward to the business manager, he'll always find him then! when your trying to negotiate a better deal. Obviously he either cant be trusted to do the deal by himself  :grin:

Ah such cretins sometimes, but im happy with it, pissed i didnt notice that folding mirrors weren't standard though as they dont come on my GTI haha. Is there a page anywhere which shows me how to change the interior LED's and where to get them? Want this to be my first mod, going to change them to red... then carbonio intake... then alloys... then xenons...
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Post by: Booth11 on 09 November 2014, 14:34
Re LEDs info, check this recent thread http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=270859.msg2481815#msg2481815

But in a nutshell:

Link to a good fitting thread:
http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?8502-DIY-Interior-Lights-Install-MKVI-Golf-lt-lt-lt-PICTURE-INTENSIVE-gt-gt-gt

Bulbs required:
Vanity lights 36mm festoon (3 or 6 smd)
Map lights front and rear 501 T10 W5W (get the shorter ones otherwise they touch the light cover)
Glovebox  501 T10 W5W
Driver footwell  501 T10 W5W
Boot festoon 42mm

They have polarity and will only work if polarity is correct, so if they don't work at first, turn them around.  Interior lights are not monitored so won't throw up errors but just get any of the canbus error free one from ebay. 

These 501s are decent
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220974683298?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D220974683298%26_rdc%3D1&clk_rvr_id=727903703382&afsrc=1

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Post by: yabot on 09 November 2014, 14:45
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Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 09 November 2014, 14:48
Re LEDs info, check this recent thread http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=270859.msg2481815#msg2481815

But in a nutshell:

Link to a good fitting thread:
http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?8502-DIY-Interior-Lights-Install-MKVI-Golf-lt-lt-lt-PICTURE-INTENSIVE-gt-gt-gt

Bulbs required:
Vanity lights 36mm festoon (3 or 6 smd)
Map lights front and rear 501 T10 W5W (get the shorter ones otherwise they touch the light cover)
Glovebox  501 T10 W5W
Driver footwell  501 T10 W5W
Boot festoon 42mm

They have polarity and will only work if polarity is correct, so if they don't work at first, turn them around.  Interior lights are not monitored so won't throw up errors but just get any of the canbus error free one from ebay. 

These 501s are decent
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220974683298?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D220974683298%26_rdc%3D1&clk_rvr_id=727903703382&afsrc=1

thanks, will try get some pics up when i finally get round to it.
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Post by: dubber36 on 09 November 2014, 20:30
Welcome to the "World of car salesmen!" I like it when the front man (salesman) goes back and forward to the business manager, he'll always find him then! when your trying to negotiate a better deal. Obviously he either cant be trusted to do the deal by himself  :grin:

It's not that he can't be trusted, it's so that he isn't the one saying "no". It's a ploy as it's easier for the salesman to say "no", when he say's it's not really him saying "no". If the deal's not going the way I'd like, I insist negotiations go no further until the man who is supposedly making the decisions comes out of hiding.
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Post by: yabot on 09 November 2014, 22:30
Emailed VW today after finding another problem on it. Not the best at these sorts of emails but this is what i said anyway... Any advice on how i could go about this? yes i should of spotted all these problems on the day but sometimes you just miss things.. :(

Hi Adam,

Couldn't be bothered driving back down after this but basically, the car pulls massively to the left and is actually pretty scary to drive at speeds of over 70mph in (as i found out on the motorway), not only this, but the electronic wing mirror adjustment dial is completely shot, i can't select the options (Left or Right), as the dial sticks in between them. This will need wheel alignment and probably a trip to my local VAG dealer.

Now both of these problems as well as the fact that you sold me the car with 3800 miles more on it than was advertised have honestly left me feeling somewhat annoyed. Although i enjoyed our chats about remapping etc and S4 4.2Litre V8's... I would of hoped that you could of told me of these problems!!

Now i really like the car, but feel as though i've had my leg pulled abit here in terms of dealer to customer honesty, therefore for obvious reasons my customer satisfaction as of right now is rather low and am for the first time disappointed in the VW group.

I would appreciate it, as a gesture of good faith if you down at Vindis VW in Bedford either compensate me back for these issues (Seeing as if i part ex'd my car with almost 4000 miles more on it, you'd offer me significantly less), or allow me to resolve the problems myself and at my own expense, and then photocopy the receipts and send you these which whereafter you can reimburse me the appropriate amount. If neither of these options are for you, then i will either pursue further action or i'll be using my 30 day exchange offer!!!

Hope to hear back from you ASAP.

Regards, Harry Norman.
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Post by: Booth11 on 09 November 2014, 22:57
Sorry to hear of your troubles with the car.  You've given them a number of options regarding rectification of said issues to your satisfaction, so it's a case of waiting for their response.  If no joy, then you have the option of handing it back and walking away, there'll be other cars out there.

Is it a VW Das WeltAuto Approved Used car with an VW Warranty (12 months)?

I must say, I wouldn't have let the matter of the inaccurate mileage go from the off.  It doesn't inspire confidence or trust.

Never start a complaint email with the words "Couldn't be bothered..."  :wink:
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Post by: yabot on 09 November 2014, 23:06
Sorry to hear of your troubles with the car.  You've given them a number of options regarding rectification of said issues to your satisfaction, so it's a case of waiting for their response.  If no joy, then you have the option of handing it back and walking away, there'll be other cars out there.

Is it a VW Das WeltAuto Approved Used car with an VW Warranty (12 months)?

I must say, I wouldn't have let the matter of the inaccurate mileage go from the off.  It doesn't inspire confidence or trust.

Never start a complaint email with the words "Couldn't be bothered..."  :wink:

Yeah but currently there are no GTI's in a similar price bracket to what mine is... so there'd be nothing to exchange for.
I shouldnt have really, he just replied 'well we can't undo the mileage', hah yeah i shouldnt have, but it was a 3 hour drive which he knew about so im sure he'll understand... he was only 21 anyway... just trying to address the stereotype ;).

And yes it's under the 12 month warranty.

I guess im going to have to start practicing my rights to the Sales of Goods Act 1979 etc  :huh: :huh: :huh:
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Post by: dubber36 on 10 November 2014, 08:17
There is the option of handing it back, but his GTD that he knew and loved will be long gone, so he won't exactly be back to square one.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: JayGTD on 10 November 2014, 08:28
Emailed VW today after finding another problem on it. Not the best at these sorts of emails but this is what i said anyway... Any advice on how i could go about this? yes i should of spotted all these problems on the day but sometimes you just miss things.. :(

Hi Adam,

Couldn't be bothered driving back down after this but basically, the car pulls massively to the left and is actually pretty scary to drive at speeds of over 70mph in (as i found out on the motorway), not only this, but the electronic wing mirror adjustment dial is completely shot, i can't select the options (Left or Right), as the dial sticks in between them. This will need wheel alignment and probably a trip to my local VAG dealer.

Now both of these problems as well as the fact that you sold me the car with 3800 miles more on it than was advertised have honestly left me feeling somewhat annoyed. Although i enjoyed our chats about remapping etc and S4 4.2Litre V8's... I would of hoped that you could of told me of these problems!!

Now i really like the car, but feel as though i've had my leg pulled abit here in terms of dealer to customer honesty, therefore for obvious reasons my customer satisfaction as of right now is rather low and am for the first time disappointed in the VW group.

I would appreciate it, as a gesture of good faith if you down at Vindis VW in Bedford either compensate me back for these issues (Seeing as if i part ex'd my car with almost 4000 miles more on it, you'd offer me significantly less), or allow me to resolve the problems myself and at my own expense, and then photocopy the receipts and send you these which whereafter you can reimburse me the appropriate amount. If neither of these options are for you, then i will either pursue further action or i'll be using my 30 day exchange offer!!!

Hope to hear back from you ASAP.

Regards, Harry Norman.

Damn dude..sorry to hear! Hope you get it all sorted out. To be fair you did address the issue rather civilised so kudos to you mate! I've known people who have gotten their way by making a racket, and I disagree with this kind of behaviour. At the end of the day everyone is just trying to do their job with a bit of peace

Anyway, that GTI was a bit cheap to start with and also it didn't have the xenons which would've gotten you frustrated down the line anyway! Haha

Good luck dude, all the best
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Post by: yabot on 10 November 2014, 10:40
There is the option of handing it back, but his GTD that he knew and loved will be long gone, so he won't exactly be back to square one.

To be honest pal i wouldnt go back to a GTD so its a non issue.
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Damn dude..sorry to hear! Hope you get it all sorted out. To be fair you did address the issue rather civilised so kudos to you mate! I've known people who have gotten their way by making a racket, and I disagree with this kind of behaviour. At the end of the day everyone is just trying to do their job with a bit of peace

Anyway, that GTI was a bit cheap to start with and also it didn't have the xenons which would've gotten you frustrated down the line anyway! Haha

Good luck dude, all the best

Haha... im still figuring out a way i can persuade you to code them for me... ;) But hey ho, as annoying as it is it's all part of the learning process!
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Post by: JayGTD on 10 November 2014, 10:52
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Haha... im still figuring out a way i can persuade you to code them for me... ;) But hey ho, as annoying as it is it's all part of the learning process!

Duuuuuude I just don't wanna screw up your car! haa. We should totally organise a Northern meet. I've had quite a few modded and standard mk6's that have waved or flashed at me, I'm just too scared to post a 'spotted' thread  :grin:
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Post by: yabot on 10 November 2014, 11:06
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Haha... im still figuring out a way i can persuade you to code them for me... ;) But hey ho, as annoying as it is it's all part of the learning process!

Duuuuuude I just don't wanna screw up your car! haa. We should totally organise a Northern meet. I've had quite a few modded and standard mk6's that have waved or flashed at me, I'm just too scared to post a 'spotted' thread  :grin:

Hah well if the Vagtechniks lot here in Manc can't sort it out then i'll have to hire one of you lot... because either way... those xenons are getting done  :evil:

Yeah for sure, actually theres a nice 5 door candy white gti sitting in the carpark now in asda, hulme.. looks like it has some RSe12's on it in anthracite... if anyone owns that? lol.
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Post by: JayGTD on 10 November 2014, 11:28
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Haha... im still figuring out a way i can persuade you to code them for me... ;) But hey ho, as annoying as it is it's all part of the learning process!

Duuuuuude I just don't wanna screw up your car! haa. We should totally organise a Northern meet. I've had quite a few modded and standard mk6's that have waved or flashed at me, I'm just too scared to post a 'spotted' thread  :grin:

Hah well if the Vagtechniks lot here in Manc can't sort it out then i'll have to hire one of you lot... because either way... those xenons are getting done  :evil:

Yeah for sure, actually theres a nice 5 door candy white gti sitting in the carpark now in asda, hulme.. looks like it has some RSe12's on it in anthracite... if anyone owns that? lol.

Neuspeed? I want RSE52's!! For a bit of JDM twist. But unfortunately I need to save up for a house
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 10 November 2014, 13:49
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Haha... im still figuring out a way i can persuade you to code them for me... ;) But hey ho, as annoying as it is it's all part of the learning process!

Duuuuuude I just don't wanna screw up your car! haa. We should totally organise a Northern meet. I've had quite a few modded and standard mk6's that have waved or flashed at me, I'm just too scared to post a 'spotted' thread  :grin:

Hah well if the Vagtechniks lot here in Manc can't sort it out then i'll have to hire one of you lot... because either way... those xenons are getting done  :evil:

Yeah for sure, actually theres a nice 5 door candy white gti sitting in the carpark now in asda, hulme.. looks like it has some RSe12's on it in anthracite... if anyone owns that? lol.

Neuspeed? I want RSE52's!! For a bit of JDM twist. But unfortunately I need to save up for a house

Yeah looked like it... looked nice on the white. i think i'll be getting either of these for mine :drool::

http://www.wheelbasealloys.com/alloy-wheels/bbs/sr/grey/18-inch

http://www.wheelbasealloys.com/alloy-wheels/fox-racing/fx005/grey/18-inch

Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 10 November 2014, 17:33
Quick update on the post i put a good few hours ago...

They've offered me £200 in compensation.
They've agreed to pay for the geometry wheel alignment, front and rear.
Also going to fix the wing-mirror adjustment dial.
Free service too.

Should i settle for the £200?

Its more the principle of it if im honest, i bought a car through a trusted VW dealer advertised at 36k... and when i picked it up it was 39.3k.

But never the less... Its still faster and nicer sounding than my GTD was and has fancy toys so yeno  :smug:
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: Booth11 on 10 November 2014, 17:48
Quick update on the post i put a good few hours ago...

They've offered me £200 in compensation.
They've agreed to pay for the geometry wheel alignment, front and rear.
Also going to fix the wing-mirror adjustment dial.
Free service too.

Should i settle for the £200?

Its more the principle of it if im honest, i bought a car through a trusted VW dealer advertised at 36k... and when i picked it up it was 39.3k.

But never the less... Its still faster and nicer sounding than my GTI and has fancy toys so yeno  :smug:

Sounds a reasonable offer and outcome.  If you accept, make sure you've got what's agreed in writing first.

Then you'll just need to sort your xenons out  :laugh:
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 10 November 2014, 17:55
Quick update on the post i put a good few hours ago...

They've offered me £200 in compensation.
They've agreed to pay for the geometry wheel alignment, front and rear.
Also going to fix the wing-mirror adjustment dial.
Free service too.

Should i settle for the £200?

Its more the principle of it if im honest, i bought a car through a trusted VW dealer advertised at 36k... and when i picked it up it was 39.3k.

But never the less... Its still faster and nicer sounding than my GTI and has fancy toys so yeno  :smug:

Sounds a reasonable offer and outcome.  If you accept, make sure you've got what's agreed in writing first.

Then you'll just need to sort your xenons out  :laugh:

Thanks, just emailed them requesting it all in writing, always forget things   :rolleyes:

Hah yeah indeed had a few emails with a VAG specialist in Manchester and he sounds like he might be able to sort it... for £130...

Ahhh... so many plans....  :smug: :smug:
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: JayGTD on 11 November 2014, 08:48
Quick update on the post i put a good few hours ago...

They've offered me £200 in compensation.
They've agreed to pay for the geometry wheel alignment, front and rear.
Also going to fix the wing-mirror adjustment dial.
Free service too.

Should i settle for the £200?

Its more the principle of it if im honest, i bought a car through a trusted VW dealer advertised at 36k... and when i picked it up it was 39.3k.

But never the less... Its still faster and nicer sounding than my GTD was and has fancy toys so yeno  :smug:

Sounds good like! I'd take that. Should get a hunters 4 wheel alignment and milk them for their worth :tongue:
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 11 November 2014, 12:49
Re LEDs info, check this recent thread http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=270859.msg2481815#msg2481815

But in a nutshell:

Link to a good fitting thread:
http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?8502-DIY-Interior-Lights-Install-MKVI-Golf-lt-lt-lt-PICTURE-INTENSIVE-gt-gt-gt

Bulbs required:
Vanity lights 36mm festoon (3 or 6 smd)
Map lights front and rear 501 T10 W5W (get the shorter ones otherwise they touch the light cover)
Glovebox  501 T10 W5W
Driver footwell  501 T10 W5W
Boot festoon 42mm

They have polarity and will only work if polarity is correct, so if they don't work at first, turn them around.  Interior lights are not monitored so won't throw up errors but just get any of the canbus error free one from ebay. 

These 501s are decent
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220974683298?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D220974683298%26_rdc%3D1&clk_rvr_id=727903703382&afsrc=1

just went and installed one of the Red LEDS in the passenger footwell... works nd all... but its really dim? I had to fiddle with the contact points on the LED abit so they touched the housing... and when i up the light intensity on the DIS the LED doesnt react, whether thats up or down.... any suggestions? :(
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: JayGTD on 11 November 2014, 13:29
Re LEDs info, check this recent thread http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=270859.msg2481815#msg2481815

But in a nutshell:

Link to a good fitting thread:
http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?8502-DIY-Interior-Lights-Install-MKVI-Golf-lt-lt-lt-PICTURE-INTENSIVE-gt-gt-gt

Bulbs required:
Vanity lights 36mm festoon (3 or 6 smd)
Map lights front and rear 501 T10 W5W (get the shorter ones otherwise they touch the light cover)
Glovebox  501 T10 W5W
Driver footwell  501 T10 W5W
Boot festoon 42mm

They have polarity and will only work if polarity is correct, so if they don't work at first, turn them around.  Interior lights are not monitored so won't throw up errors but just get any of the canbus error free one from ebay. 

These 501s are decent
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220974683298?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D220974683298%26_rdc%3D1&clk_rvr_id=727903703382&afsrc=1

just went and installed one of the Red LEDS in the passenger footwell... works nd all... but its really dim? I had to fiddle with the contact points on the LED abit so they touched the housing... and when i up the light intensity on the DIS the LED doesnt react, whether thats up or down.... any suggestions? :(


If you want to do it properly.....

http://deautokey.com/product/14pc-complete-interior-exterior-led-kit-error-free-fits-09-up-volkswagen-golf-mk6

I got the white footwells
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: gaurav_aidasani on 11 November 2014, 17:46
The link JayGTD sent is complete but seems very expensive! I bought them through eBay as Booth11 has suggested, paid 15 for all of them. Installation is simple (link posted by Booth11), but fiddly, takes a bit of patience.

To adjust footwell intensity, mine didn't work at first but at the second go it was fine. Try doing it when you're parked and the ignition in ON position (i.e. engine not running). As you might have noticed intensity can only go up and down in 5% steps, bring it upto 50 or so at least to see a difference.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: Booth11 on 11 November 2014, 18:25
Re LEDs info, check this recent thread http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=270859.msg2481815#msg2481815

But in a nutshell:

Link to a good fitting thread:
http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?8502-DIY-Interior-Lights-Install-MKVI-Golf-lt-lt-lt-PICTURE-INTENSIVE-gt-gt-gt

Bulbs required:
Vanity lights 36mm festoon (3 or 6 smd)
Map lights front and rear 501 T10 W5W (get the shorter ones otherwise they touch the light cover)
Glovebox  501 T10 W5W
Driver footwell  501 T10 W5W
Boot festoon 42mm

They have polarity and will only work if polarity is correct, so if they don't work at first, turn them around.  Interior lights are not monitored so won't throw up errors but just get any of the canbus error free one from ebay. 

These 501s are decent
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220974683298?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D220974683298%26_rdc%3D1&clk_rvr_id=727903703382&afsrc=1

just went and installed one of the Red LEDS in the passenger footwell... works nd all... but its really dim? I had to fiddle with the contact points on the LED abit so they touched the housing... and when i up the light intensity on the DIS the LED doesnt react, whether thats up or down.... any suggestions? :(

Which lights did you get Yabot?  When I first swapped my footwells I got another type of red LED that were absolute crap, extremely dim even with brightness upped to 100% and a nightmare to get into the holder.  They were the type with a red plastic contact cover and glass bulb cover.  They got binned and I replaced them with the type I linked to earlier in this thread and had no issues with these all.

I adjusted footwell intensity in the DIS without engine running, as gaurav suggested.  Notched it up to 70% initially then went out for a test spin, and on return adjusted % down to so it gave a nice ambience without being a distraction whist driving. 

Maybe a dud LED?  I'm sure those posted by JayGTD are good but plenty of decent ones on eBay for less. 
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 11 November 2014, 20:51
Re LEDs info, check this recent thread http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=270859.msg2481815#msg2481815

But in a nutshell:

Link to a good fitting thread:
http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?8502-DIY-Interior-Lights-Install-MKVI-Golf-lt-lt-lt-PICTURE-INTENSIVE-gt-gt-gt

Bulbs required:
Vanity lights 36mm festoon (3 or 6 smd)
Map lights front and rear 501 T10 W5W (get the shorter ones otherwise they touch the light cover)
Glovebox  501 T10 W5W
Driver footwell  501 T10 W5W
Boot festoon 42mm

They have polarity and will only work if polarity is correct, so if they don't work at first, turn them around.  Interior lights are not monitored so won't throw up errors but just get any of the canbus error free one from ebay. 

These 501s are decent
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220974683298?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D220974683298%26_rdc%3D1&clk_rvr_id=727903703382&afsrc=1

just went and installed one of the Red LEDS in the passenger footwell... works nd all... but its really dim? I had to fiddle with the contact points on the LED abit so they touched the housing... and when i up the light intensity on the DIS the LED doesnt react, whether thats up or down.... any suggestions? :(

Which lights did you get Yabot?  When I first swapped my footwells I got another type of red LED that were absolute crap, extremely dim even with brightness upped to 100% and a nightmare to get into the holder.  They were the type with a red plastic contact cover and glass bulb cover.  They got binned and I replaced them with the type I linked to earlier in this thread and had no issues with these all.

I adjusted footwell intensity in the DIS without engine running, as gaurav suggested.  Notched it up to 70% initially then went out for a test spin, and on return adjusted % down to so it gave a nice ambience without being a distraction whist driving. 

Maybe a dud LED?  I'm sure those posted by JayGTD are good but plenty of decent ones on eBay for less.

Ahhhh yes.... the sound remarkably similar to the ones i have got... haha. Yeah i went ahead and ordered two of them and will give them a go when they come, hopefully be all good. 

Just a quick question... when you floor it, do you get a slight rattle from the exhaust? Because i do, and whereas its not the most bothersome thing in the world just want to know if its normal all not?

Cheers fellas
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: Booth11 on 11 November 2014, 21:24

Which lights did you get Yabot?  When I first swapped my footwells I got another type of red LED that were absolute crap, extremely dim even with brightness upped to 100% and a nightmare to get into the holder.  They were the type with a red plastic contact cover and glass bulb cover.  They got binned and I replaced them with the type I linked to earlier in this thread and had no issues with these all.

I adjusted footwell intensity in the DIS without engine running, as gaurav suggested.  Notched it up to 70% initially then went out for a test spin, and on return adjusted % down to so it gave a nice ambience without being a distraction whist driving. 

Maybe a dud LED?  I'm sure those posted by JayGTD are good but plenty of decent ones on eBay for less.

Ahhhh yes.... the sound remarkably similar to the ones i have got... haha. Yeah i went ahead and ordered two of them and will give them a go when they come, hopefully be all good. 

Just a quick question... when you floor it, do you get a slight rattle from the exhaust? Because i do, and whereas its not the most bothersome thing in the world just want to know if its normal all not?

Cheers fellas

lol, is this the culprit? 

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7571/15582450328_8c6be8dcc8.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/booth11/15582450328/)

Yeah they're rubbish. Get the other type, brighter and much, much easier to get in the holder.  That's why I recommended that type  :rolleyes:

Not a fella  :wink:, but never noticed any exhaust rattle when flooring it but maybe drowned out by stereo  :whistle:
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 11 November 2014, 21:36

Which lights did you get Yabot?  When I first swapped my footwells I got another type of red LED that were absolute crap, extremely dim even with brightness upped to 100% and a nightmare to get into the holder.  They were the type with a red plastic contact cover and glass bulb cover.  They got binned and I replaced them with the type I linked to earlier in this thread and had no issues with these all.

I adjusted footwell intensity in the DIS without engine running, as gaurav suggested.  Notched it up to 70% initially then went out for a test spin, and on return adjusted % down to so it gave a nice ambience without being a distraction whist driving. 

Maybe a dud LED?  I'm sure those posted by JayGTD are good but plenty of decent ones on eBay for less.

Ahhhh yes.... the sound remarkably similar to the ones i have got... haha. Yeah i went ahead and ordered two of them and will give them a go when they come, hopefully be all good. 

Just a quick question... when you floor it, do you get a slight rattle from the exhaust? Because i do, and whereas its not the most bothersome thing in the world just want to know if its normal all not?

Cheers fellas

lol, is this the culprit? 

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7571/15582450328_8c6be8dcc8.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/booth11/15582450328/)

Yeah they're rubbish. Get the other type, brighter and much, much easier to get in the holder.  That's why I recommended that type  :rolleyes:

Not a fella  :wink:, but never noticed any exhaust rattle when flooring it but maybe drowned out by stereo  :whistle:

Yes!!! Ordered a 20 pack of the little bastards hah. Yeah just ordered 2 of the other type you recommended thanks for that,  will get them done first and then do the others... Also just ordered me Xenons....  :laugh: :laugh:

Hah fair one, i do apologise. Ah well looks like another thing Inchcape in Manchester are going to have to have a look at then....
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: Booth11 on 11 November 2014, 21:54
No worries mate  :smiley:

Haha, that's why they are so cheap for 20, gotta give 'em away.  Looking forward to seeing your xenons when they go on, assuming you can get them coded right :grin:
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 11 November 2014, 22:03
No worries mate  :smiley:

Haha, that's why they are so cheap for 20, gotta give 'em away.  Looking forward to seeing your xenons when they go on, assuming you can get them coded right :grin:

Pfft i wont be coding them myself i can assure you of that, i never touched any sort of coding before or anything so i wont even bother.

Will be using this company: http://www.vagtechnik.co.uk/ even if i dont get them working 100% right, i still feel as though they'll update the front end of the car nicely...

Also... (just checked out your pics) how do you get your exhaust so damn clean? Mines actually black, not a single bit of chrome on it  :undecided: And is your MFD the Highline one and colour? Looks so nice... and Pristine...
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: gaurav_aidasani on 11 November 2014, 22:48
I got these ones

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=321034654782

You can use yours as Christmas lights!!

For exhausts I have heard steel wool, autosol and loads of elbow grease works. I tried with Brasso and it did part of the job. Next time I'm using autosol!
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: Booth11 on 11 November 2014, 23:14
No worries mate  :smiley:

Haha, that's why they are so cheap for 20, gotta give 'em away.  Looking forward to seeing your xenons when they go on, assuming you can get them coded right :grin:

Pfft i wont be coding them myself i can assure you of that, i never touched any sort of coding before or anything so i wont even bother.

Will be using this company: http://www.vagtechnik.co.uk/ even if i dont get them working 100% right, i still feel as though they'll update the front end of the car nicely...

Also... (just checked out your pics) how do you get your exhaust so damn clean? Mines actually black, not a single bit of chrome on it  :undecided: And is your MFD the Highline one and colour? Looks so nice... and Pristine...

Thanks mate  :smiley:

The xenons will transform the front  :cool:

For your exhaust - Mothers Mag and Aluminium Polish, imo beats Autosol hands down (which I used to use).  If they are really caked with carbon then you might need to use some fine grade 000 steel wool initially, but go careful, to avoid inflicting scratch marks.  Other than that it's elbow grease.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mothers-Mag-Aluminium-Polish-5oz/dp/B00068GEJM

To be fair I've had my car from new and detailing is a hobby so my tailpipes have never been allowed to get in a state.  If I'm driving and the car in front has sooty pipes I have this overwhelming urge to get out and polish 'em up!  :grin: :undecided:  :laugh:

Yep it's a colour Highline MFD.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: JayGTD on 12 November 2014, 11:24
Haha I actually got my interior LED's off ebay! I bought a complete set for I think around £20. It's just the American forums all rave about the DEAutokey ones cos they're really good and really bright. Can't justify paying a fortune for a bunch of LED's all the way from America
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 12 November 2014, 12:00
Just a quick update on my car that was sold to me with 39200 miles on... instead of the 36000 miles that was advertised.
Sent this email just now:

Hi Adam,

I feel as though the sum of £200 in compensation for a car with 3192 more miles on it than advertised is a somewhat meagre sum, considering i paid a difference of £789.

I'm sure you've heard of it, but under the Sales of Goods Act 1979 it states this:

The Law

When you buy a used vehicle from a trader you are making a legally binding contract. You have legal rights against the trader under the Sale of Goods Act 1979.

The vehicle should be:

- As described - the vehicle should correspond with any description applied to it. In some circumstances, the trader may be liable for any statement made by the manufacturer of the vehicle.

The vehicle (VW MK6 Golf GTI 2011), was NOT sold to me as described, it was sold to me with 39192 miles on, however it was described as 36000 miles.

If the vehicle is faulty , you are legally entitled to request one of the following remedies:

a full refund
compensation (damages)
repair or replacement
rescission or reduction in price

The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 prohibits commercial practices that are unfair to consumers. If a trader misleads you or engages in an aggressive commercial practice and you make a decision to purchase a vehicle which you would not otherwise have done, the trader may be in breach of the regulations. For example, a trader may fail to inform you that the vehicle has previously been accident damaged or may claim it is 'sold as seen' to avoid their responsibilities to you. If you have been misled, report it to Citizens Advice consumer service for investigation by trading standards.

According to you, there was great interest in the car, not only did you mislead me by stating the car had 36000 miles, but you also applied pressure by saying someone else was interested, however at this point i was still undecided and may not have made the decision to purchase the car. I needn't say i was also uninformed of the increased mileage on the cars odometer.

Internet sales
If you decide to buy a used vehicle online from a trader, you have the samelegal rights to expect that it is of satisfactory quality, fit for purpose and as described as you have when buying from a trader's premises.. The Consumer Contracts (Information, Cancellation and Additional Charges) Regulations 2013 give you additional rights because the contract you enter into is concluded at a distance and without face-to-face contact with the trader.

The vehicle I purchased from Vindis Volkswagen Bedford was NOT fit for purpose, neither was it as described due to the mileage being 3200 more than i had expected! I needn't state The Consumer Contracts Regulations 2013, as my additional rights without face to face contact are clear.

Aside from the Sales of Goods Act 1979, these following factors spring to mind!

- I have it in writing that the car you sold me was at 36063 miles, with your signature and date on it being 08/11/14 (Das Welt Auto 30 day/1000 mile agreement, Used Vehicle        Order… and GARDX certificate).
- Lack of communication within the dealership, between the service department and sales team (as the service book states 39192 miles).
- Negligence on your behalf of failing to look thoroughly through the documents and service book

I hope to hear back from you today, as i have already rang requesting a call back.

Regards,

Harry Norman.

Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: dubber36 on 12 November 2014, 13:43
Just to clear one thing up Harry, did you agree to buy the car without seeing it first?
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: yabot on 12 November 2014, 14:07
Just to clear one thing up Harry, did you agree to buy the car without seeing it first?

yeah was over the phone, when i asked him the mileage it was 36000. But anyway, its been resolved now.
Title: Re: Newbie here... I need your opinions!
Post by: Booth11 on 12 November 2014, 15:45
Just to clear one thing up Harry, did you agree to buy the car without seeing it first?

yeah was over the phone, when i asked him the mileage it was 36000. But anyway, its been resolved now.

To your satisfaction I hope.