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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: McBreadhead on 11 February 2019, 21:21
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Hi folks, new to the forum and looking to get into a used GTI 7.5 but really want DCC.
Don’t seem to be many about with DCC so wondered whether it can be retroed?
Thanks in advance,
McB
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Anything can be retro fitted if you have deep enough pockets but I would have thought it way too expensive to do dcc. Plenty other systems to fit instead of DCC, Ohlins for example.
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In theory, yes it could be retrofitted, but it would require 4x new dampers, new suspension setup all round, electrical coding, software updating etc etc
It would be a VERY costly job.
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Thanks guys it is indeed looking that way.
I’m having to consider the R as well as GTIs because there is such little choice. :wink:
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Thanks guys it is indeed looking that way.
I’m having to consider the R as well as GTIs because there is such little choice. :wink:
I was in the same position, I had to have DCC, no compromise, but there was very little used, so I ended up ordering new to get exactly what I wanted.
My recent thoughts on DCC can be found here: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=284721.0
:smiley:
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The ride a million times better once you've got some unsprung weight out of them. Shave a few kilos out of the pig-iron VW wheels, maybe some CSS discs, 18s rather than 19s...
Maybe a better suspension solution?
https://mss.company
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The bloke above talks sense. CSS discs a definite future mod.
Back on subject Bilstein and KW do their own version of DCC. It's roughly £2k though.
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I was surprised how light the brescias are to be honest. Compared to the monza shadows on the mk6 I had anyway! And my Winter wheels (Audi TT) are bloody ridiculous
I wish our 7.5 had DCC it’s bloody brill ain’t on the CSS - the ride is noticeable better than normal GTI on 19s
Retrofitting it looks a complete pain in the arse I wouldn’t attempt it
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Hi folks, new to the forum and looking to get into a used GTI 7.5 but really want DCC.
Don’t seem to be many about with DCC so wondered whether it can be retroed?
Thanks in advance,
McB
I'm in the same boat. Lots of reviews for the GTI and R, including Carwow, state DCC is a must have option and the first one you should tick, yet finding a used one with this option is almost impossible.
It's the same with the S3. The ride on that is incredibly hard but finding a hatchback with Audi magnetic ride is as difficult.
I can only think a lot of used cars are ex-leases with minimum spec.
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Hi folks, new to the forum and looking to get into a used GTI 7.5 but really want DCC.
Don’t seem to be many about with DCC so wondered whether it can be retroed?
Thanks in advance,
McB
I'm in the same boat. Lots of reviews for the GTI and R, including Carwow, state DCC is a must have option and the first one you should tick, yet finding a used one with this option is almost impossible.
It's the same with the S3. The ride on that is incredibly hard but finding a hatchback with Audi magnetic ride is as difficult.
I can only think a lot of used cars are ex-leases with minimum spec.
To be fair, it isn't really a 'must have option', this is why the majority of used examples don't have it fitted. But I can understand why it would be nice to have, especially if driving frequently on rutted roads, or if you just cannot forgo the 19 inch wheel options.
Have you tried a car with the standard dampers? The ride quality really isn't that bad for a car that is supposed to have a sporty character.
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Wondering wether its a possible retrofit on a 7.5 gti pp?
The ACC allows me to select between the diff modes but only when its active,
Doesn't that mean the dampers exsist? Even though i do not have dcc as an option.
Cheers
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Unless it's been specced then you'll have standard dampers. You won't have the DCC dampers for free. You can change everything else with mode button but definitely not the dampers.
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Well I tried an R today with DCC on 19” Pretoria’s and it was pretty damn good. The comfort mode was sublime.
This has to be an opportunity for the tuning houses but 2k is steep. I would hope the loom is futureproofed for a start. And the ECU would surely be pre programmed. Or maybe not.
Anyway for me it’s a must have.
On a separate note the R I tried doesn’t have Sat Nav and I’ve been advised Apple Car Play at £300 would allow Google maps to be displayed. Is there any way of checking compatibility against chassis number?
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App Connect compatibility depends on which head unit is in the car.
All facelift (7.5) cars have it as standard. All cars with the MIB2 Nav Pro 2015 week 22 onwards should have it as standard. MIB2 Discover Nav should be upgradeable if the car has the App Connect icon in the menu. MIB1 head units fitted to cars built before 2015 week 22 are not compatible with App Connect.
There's a bit more info here;-
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=284283.msg2597203#msg2597203
Or failing that try using the forum search facility at the top.
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Guzzle,
Thank you - it’s a mk7 first registered around March 2016 I think. Can’t recall if it has App Connect or not but it has the small 6”? screen.
Given its reg date it’s likely the head unit is MIB2 then (with either Nav Pro or Discover Nav) and as the dealer is quoting to fit Apple CarPlay that would imply it’s got Discover Pro which is App Connect upgradable.
I will check with dealer on Monday.
McB
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FYI - Pretorias are a tonne lighter than normal 19s, or 18s for that matter. So it'll ride better passive or DCC.
What I'm saying is don't be surprised if yours comes on a set of different 19s and it's not as good as you remember.
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Having just had to replace the leaking front DCC shocks on my Mk7 (less than 50k miles) I would seriously reconsider getting DCC. It's good, but day to day would you really feel the difference...I doubt it. The cost of replacement is not insignificant. If I was buying a GTI again I'd go no DCC then when the time came upgrade to Bilsteins.
Greig
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I keep saying it.... had (non VW) DCC for years, then had a Mk7 GTD with DCC... ditched it on my current Mk7.5 GTD.... haven't looked back once.
And that's before it goes wrong...
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I had it on my 2013 mk7 estate, not on my 2016 GTD as it was a pre-configured dealer offer from the lease company.
The estate cornered better when you went at it hard. I'd order it again, retrofitting though no....
I'd get one with DCC already fitted from factory.
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People go on about 'when it goes wrong' with DCC but replacing a standard shock isn't much cheaper.
I like it because it's like having two cars in one. For what it costs from new it's a bit of a bargain too.
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People think nothing about spending £900 for 19" wheels that spoil the ride and handling in most situations but look bling but dont want to spend the same kind of money on DCC which improves the car in every situation other than you cant see it.
funny world
also why so few come with dynaudio for the sake of £500 beats me too
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Mcviken, have to agree with you on that score. You can never have too much bass.
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People think nothing about spending £900 for 19" wheels that spoil the ride and handling in most situations but look bling but dont want to spend the same kind of money on DCC which improves the car in every situation other than you cant see it.
funny world
also why so few come with dynaudio for the sake of £500 beats me too
I couldn't agree with you more. DCC and Dynaudio were two options I would not compromise on, yet to find a used GTI with them both together was nigh on impossible. It's why I ended up ordering new. The two things that are night & day compared to the standard fitment.
I understand it's horses for courses on DCC and it's down to day-to-day use, but it baffles me the amount of justification on here that says you don't need to have DCC, usually prequalified with the "I have 19's and no DCC and I find the ride fine"... yet that doesn't actually address what DCC gives you, not having DCC may be fine, but with DCC it transforms the car and gives you so much more than 'fine'.
:huh:
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Mines got both dynaudio and DCC so someone's getting a rare car by all accounts oh and it's got nav pro and rear camera. I think I'd be better selling on tootle than trading it in come selling time?
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People think nothing about spending £900 for 19" wheels that spoil the ride and handling in most situations but look bling but dont want to spend the same kind of money on DCC which improves the car in every situation other than you cant see it.
funny world
also why so few come with dynaudio for the sake of £500 beats me too
We're all individuals, what you might think was a no brainer might not be for someone else. Aesthetics are an important part of a purchase to many but adding 19s, DCC and Dynaudio would add on a considerable sum. I found mine on 19s to ride a lot better than my previous Audi on 17s so that was great. As for Dynaudio, I don't listen to that much music in the car, it doesn't bother me. I have a pretty decent system at home and I enjoy my music there.
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Is this a bad time to say I haven't got DCC, I've fitted a set of aftermarket 19s and lowered it on Eibach sportlines and I still find the ride "fine".
Actually, it's way firmer than standard but I don't mind that in the slightest lol.
I do have dynaudio, although the wheels and suspension mods make the turntable jump a bit (but only on LPs playing at 33 RPM).
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Is this a bad time to say I haven't got DCC, I've fitted a set of aftermarket 19s and lowered it on Eibach sportlines and I still find the ride "fine".
Actually, it's way firmer than standard but I don't mind that in the slightest lol.
I do have dynaudio, although the wheels and suspension mods make the turntable jump a bit (but only on LPs playing at 33 RPM).
:grin: :grin:
The Golf is a great car out the box with a really decent standard spec. I'm sure DCC is good and I'm sure the upgraded audio is good as well. But they are options and don't stop the GTI being a great car without them. If I was purchasing 2nd hand I might be a bit more choosey on options. Doubt I'd spec one so highly though from new.