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Title: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: 1400sfm on 06 July 2009, 19:17
Hi all
Forgive me if this is old news but it appears that the new GTI is being reviewed on 5th gear tonight, Channel 5, 8pm. :laugh:
Im sure they will love it!!
Enjoy.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: carl1 on 06 July 2009, 19:18
was just about post it myself
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 06 July 2009, 19:20
Yes should be interesting being as they said it was now obsolete due to the fact there is a new rocco out
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gc76 on 06 July 2009, 19:23
I'll go and set the sky+ now  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 06 July 2009, 19:24
 :laugh:please tell me you won`t be watching eastenders instead :laugh:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: carl1 on 06 July 2009, 19:26
Yes should be interesting being as they said it was now obsolete due to the fact there is a new rocco out
What a daft thing to say, different cars
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 06 July 2009, 19:29
I think you were aiming it more at the 3dr mk6 gti,When they reviewed the rocco they said it had made the 3dr golf obsolete.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: carl1 on 06 July 2009, 19:32
i think you mean they and i think you mean they were aiming it at the mk5 v rocco
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: carl1 on 06 July 2009, 19:35
all wires crossed here but it will be interesting to see what they say anyway  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 06 July 2009, 19:37
Sorry should have read i think THEY were aiming it at the 3dr mk6 gti
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: neilgcal on 06 July 2009, 19:42
Just had a look at the preview and its a red 5 door with Xenon's so they can't come to the same conclusion about the doors!! It better get a good review, just told all my mates to watch it!!!
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 06 July 2009, 19:44
was hoping it would be the 3dr being as i`m due to take delivery of one at the end of july.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: carl1 on 06 July 2009, 19:45
im even more confused now :laugh: i thought they said it made the mk5 3dr gti obsolete when they originaly reviewed the rocco
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gc76 on 06 July 2009, 19:48
5 door in red.  Awesome just like mine  :grin:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: carl1 on 06 July 2009, 19:49
im going to sell mine if it gets a bad review, as if  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 06 July 2009, 19:49
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:,there exact words were ,the rocco makes the golf gti obsolete,they did not say which mk,it was a while back and if i remember it was the 3dr :laugh:,so to conclude the 3dr mk5 gti is obsolete in there opinion.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: neilgcal on 06 July 2009, 19:51
I stand corrected, im going blind, its a red 3 door!!!
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 06 July 2009, 19:52
oh good
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: carl1 on 06 July 2009, 19:53
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:,there exact words were ,the rocco makes the golf gti obsolete,they did not say which mk,it was a while back and if i remember it was the 3dr :laugh:,so to conclude the 3dr mk5 gti is obsolete in there opinion.
even tho the rocco has grown on me a little more id pick a 3dr mk6 gti over a rocco gt everytime
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 06 July 2009, 19:55
 :laugh:me too,father in law has rocco,nice car but gti for me.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 06 July 2009, 19:58
100 th post :laugh:,now i`m a regular
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: carl1 on 06 July 2009, 20:03
if it doesnt get the best review this will be the fastest growing thread ever with the mk5 boys coming on here giving us grief  :laugh:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Spaced on 06 July 2009, 20:04
Damn right!
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: carl1 on 06 July 2009, 20:07
its not going to get as good reviews as when the mk5 was out because of the massive improvement over the mk4, thats obvious
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gc76 on 06 July 2009, 20:08
its not going to get as good reviews as when the mk5 was out because of the massive improvement over the mk4, thats obvious
Might have to keep my MK5 then.  Only Joking.  Roll on September the 1st  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: 1400sfm on 06 July 2009, 20:09
God it looked nice in red on the preview clip
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gc76 on 06 July 2009, 20:10
Whats the bets the review is gonna be like.  He just said in the snippet that its a lot like old one.  Start off bad.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: carl1 on 06 July 2009, 20:12
he's never enthusiastic about anything him
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gossa on 06 July 2009, 20:26
way hay! Still the best! That's my car that one, red, 5dr, 18's, manual. No Xenons for me though! :smiley:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: carl1 on 06 July 2009, 20:26
"the best alround hot hatch ever" we know that, that was a boring review tho, he never even gave it any welly
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gc76 on 06 July 2009, 20:26
What a sh!t review. Dick Turpin??

At least they agree its the best GTI to date and best all round hot hatch  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gc76 on 06 July 2009, 20:27
And have I said thats like mine  :wink:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 06 July 2009, 20:30
I kind of switched off during that 'review'. Why dick turpin, why not tell us a bit about the car and why get your facts wrong with the speed of the new car over the old one. No wonder people watch top gear.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gc76 on 06 July 2009, 20:32
I kind of switched off during that 'review'. Why dick turpin, why not tell us a bit about the car and why get your facts wrong with the speed of the new car over the old one. No wonder people watch top gear.

Yep, bolox review wasn't it
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 06 July 2009, 20:32
"the best alround hot hatch ever" we know that, that was a boring review tho, he never even gave it any welly

Exactly, he let white van man overtake him on the motorway.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 06 July 2009, 20:33
I kind of switched off during that 'review'. Why dick turpin, why not tell us a bit about the car and why get your facts wrong with the speed of the new car over the old one. No wonder people watch top gear.

Yep, bolox review wasn't it

Sure was. On a plus note, I'm ordering my car tomorrow.  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 06 July 2009, 20:33
Very tame review,and did not even make any comparison to the rocco being as they said gti was obsolete now there was a new rocco out.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gc76 on 06 July 2009, 20:33
I kind of switched off during that 'review'. Why dick turpin, why not tell us a bit about the car and why get your facts wrong with the speed of the new car over the old one. No wonder people watch top gear.

Yep, bolox review wasn't it

Sure was. On a plus note, I'm ordering my car tomorrow.  :smiley:

What spec you getting
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 06 July 2009, 20:38
I kind of switched off during that 'review'. Why dick turpin, why not tell us a bit about the car and why get your facts wrong with the speed of the new car over the old one. No wonder people watch top gear.

Yep, bolox review wasn't it

Sure was. On a plus note, I'm ordering my car tomorrow.  :smiley:


What spec you getting

White manual, 18" Alloys, Full leather, xenons, rcd510 + dynaudio pack, winter pack and luxury pack.

I never realised till around 1 hr ago, but one of my works clients is Arnold Clark, and their VW garage is 15 mins away from me. I couldnt get hold of the top man in the area when I called so I nipped down to the garage. Soon as I mentioned his name and number the salesman just held his hands up, said whatever price 'Mr x' gives you we just work in a different way and you'll get a great deal through him directly as we do work for Arnold Clark. So I'm a tad excited about tomorrow when I call from work.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Jkctr on 06 July 2009, 20:41
Crap review! Couldnt even hear the exhaust note or anything

it looked worse than pictures show as well  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gc76 on 06 July 2009, 20:41
I kind of switched off during that 'review'. Why dick turpin, why not tell us a bit about the car and why get your facts wrong with the speed of the new car over the old one. No wonder people watch top gear.

Yep, bolox review wasn't it

Red, 5 door, DSG, 18's, Lux pack and I might ask for parking sensors if the car hasnt gone into production tomorrow.  I get it Sept 1st.

I was nearly gonna get myself a white GTI but went for red even though I think white looks pretty smart.



Sure was. On a plus note, I'm ordering my car tomorrow.  :smiley:

White manual, 18" Alloys, Full leather, xenons, rcd510 + dynaudio pack, winter pack and luxury pack.

I never realised till around 1 hr ago, but one of my works clients is Arnold Clark, and their VW garage is 15 mins away from me. I couldnt get hold of the top man in the area when I called so I nipped down to the garage. Soon as I mentioned his name and number the salesman just held his hands up, said whatever price 'Mr x' gives you we just work in a different way and you'll get a great deal through him directly as we do work for Arnold Clark. So I'm a tad excited about tomorrow when I call from work.

What spec you getting
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 06 July 2009, 20:45
I kind of switched off during that 'review'. Why dick turpin, why not tell us a bit about the car and why get your facts wrong with the speed of the new car over the old one. No wonder people watch top gear.

Yep, bolox review wasn't it

Red, 5 door, DSG, 18's, Lux pack and I might ask for parking sensors if the car hasnt gone into production tomorrow.  I get it Sept 1st.

I was nearly gonna get myself a white GTI but went for red even though I think white looks pretty smart.



Sure was. On a plus note, I'm ordering my car tomorrow.  :smiley:

White manual, 18" Alloys, Full leather, xenons, rcd510 + dynaudio pack, winter pack and luxury pack.

I never realised till around 1 hr ago, but one of my works clients is Arnold Clark, and their VW garage is 15 mins away from me. I couldnt get hold of the top man in the area when I called so I nipped down to the garage. Soon as I mentioned his name and number the salesman just held his hands up, said whatever price 'Mr x' gives you we just work in a different way and you'll get a great deal through him directly as we do work for Arnold Clark. So I'm a tad excited about tomorrow when I call from work.

What spec you getting

Thats a sweet spec too. Long long wait times on these GTI's the dealer said to me tonight. Said going up to 16 weeks in some cases depending on spec and oh yeah, just remembered, he aint heard anything about any price rise either, not sure if it's true or if he just hasnt heard the news etc yet.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gossa on 06 July 2009, 20:53
Guys, unless you are super anal about exact spec, there are built cars in Germany ready to go.  I got my kids 10 days after ordering, shipped straight over from Germany.

Why wait?
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: neilgcal on 06 July 2009, 20:56
Tell me about it, its been 10 weeks since i ordered and i still have not got a build week!!!
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 06 July 2009, 20:57
Guys, unless you are super anal about exact spec, there are built cars in Germany ready to go.  I got my kids 10 days after ordering, shipped straight over from Germany.

Why wait?

What sort of spec do they have on them ? Have you heard of any ?
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 06 July 2009, 20:58
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Thats a sweet spec too. Long long wait times on these GTI's the dealer said to me tonight. Said going up to 16 weeks in some cases depending on spec and oh yeah, just remembered, he aint heard anything about any price rise either, not sure if it's true or if he just hasnt heard the news etc yet.

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Tell me about it, its been 10 weeks since i ordered and i still have not got a build week!!!

Did you ever call the dealer to get that looked into mate ?
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: neilgcal on 06 July 2009, 21:01
Yeah they called me last week to say that thery were still waiting on a build week so they think it will be August it arrives rather than the end of this month.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 06 July 2009, 21:02
I should check that out if i was you,i ordered 22nd may,dealer says build week 27,dealer told my wife the other day he thinks it will be in by the end of july.They should be able to give you a build date at least.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gossa on 06 July 2009, 21:03
Guys, unless you are super anal about exact spec, there are built cars in Germany ready to go.  I got my kids 10 days after ordering, shipped straight over from Germany.

Why wait?

What sort of spec do they have on them ? Have you heard of any ?

Dealers will tell you all sorts of twaddle about allocation but find a decent dealer, tell them you are READY to go and a rough spec and watch what they come up with. I told them I wanted a 5 door with a manual box and 18" Monzas, they came back with white, black or red with varying specs, the red did it for me and was very very close to my ideal spec.  
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: adw555 on 06 July 2009, 21:18
I did the same. Wanted black, 18s and leather....dealer found one already built..just had the winter pack extra to my spec...but saying that only a 3 weeks wait  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gossa on 06 July 2009, 21:21
I did the same. Wanted black, 18s and leather....dealer found one already built..just had the winter pack extra to my spec...but saying that only a 3 weeks wait  :smiley:
:wink: I guess for some people on a car at this price the joy of going through the spec, and building their dream car (and the wait) is all part of the fun.

Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Mighty_G on 06 July 2009, 21:55
I did the same. Wanted black, 18s and leather....dealer found one already built..just had the winter pack extra to my spec...but saying that only a 3 weeks wait  :smiley:
:wink: I guess for some people on a car at this price the joy of going through the spec, and building their dream car (and the wait) is all part of the fun.



New member here, my Red 3-door GTi is being delivered tomorrow !!!  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: First ever ho hatch I've owned (moving on from a Vauxhll vectra 2.0d) !
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gossa on 06 July 2009, 22:01
Welcome to the club mate  :wink:

Red rules! Post a pic or two.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Mighty_G on 06 July 2009, 22:03
Welcome to the club mate  :wink:

Red rules! Post a pic or two.
will do, once I get the car and work out how to create a new post  :huh:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gossa on 06 July 2009, 22:15
Welcome to the club mate  :wink:

Red rules! Post a pic or two.
will do, once I get the car and work out how to create a new post  :huh:

Mate, if you want anything changing settings wise, get them to do it when you collect.  I had my car set so that one click on the key opened all doors and then they lock after you drive off.  There are other settings that can be changed by the dealer such as seatbelt pings etc.  Good luck and enjoy!
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gizzywizzy on 06 July 2009, 22:17
Wow did that car look the bees knees on 5th gear?  mind you the review was pretty rubbish although they agreed with us that this is the best gti!!

I have posted before that I wasn't a lover of the monza shadows but seeing them on the programme I changed my mind and I think they looked super cool.

Rang my dealer today he reckons it is showing up for building in the next 2 weeks and should be here by August, thing is as I've waited this long should I then hold out for 1st September registration??
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: keelaw on 06 July 2009, 22:28

haha - i forgot about this on 5th gear, thanks guys for the reminder and thanks be to the internet and the five website.

that said, what a cr@p review!

whats even more cr@p is that this is going to get interest up in the GTI so less chance of haggling with the stealers :(
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Max Q on 07 July 2009, 00:28
It's available to view here for those that didn't catch it. Here. (http://fwd.five.tv/videos/golf-gti)

Were you guys watching the same review as me?! Some of you guys need to take off the rose-tinted glasses. I heard him use words like average and underwhelming to describe it.

I did learn a lot of things about Dick Turpin that I didn't know though.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Rolfe on 07 July 2009, 00:44
Thanks very much - I can't get C5 here.  Now I remember why I don't care.

That was just rubbish, as a review.  It told the viewer nothing at all about the car.  It said it was either underwhelming or subtle compared to a couple of screaming boy racers, then he drove it from London to York.

Be still my heart.  It can get you from London to York.  Fancy that!

Oh, and he thinks that the roads in France are perfect.  Well, they must have been resurfacing them non-stop since I was there last because that's way not my experience.  What is he actually smoking?

He thinks the DSG is good, but the manual gearshift is better so don't spend your money.

I nearly fell asleep watching it.  It's certainly not going to start a run on the car among people who were wavering or just beginning to think about it.

And if he thinks the DSG isn't worth the money then that settles it, I'm having that.  Clearly, this is Alice-in-Wonderland Humpty-Dumpty land.

Rolfe.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Exonian on 07 July 2009, 05:24
I wonder if the Dick Turpin theme came from VWs pricing strategy for the GTI?





(Highway robbery........)  :evil:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: FroGTI on 07 July 2009, 07:11
The Fifth Gear review was a bit boring, but at least he said it was good. I suppose tv tests are never going to go into the kind of detail forum nerds like us want; tyres size, exhaust note at x rpm, torque band, etc.  :wink:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Rolfe on 07 July 2009, 09:52
The Fifth Gear review was a bit boring, but at least he said it was good. I suppose tv tests are never going to go into the kind of detail forum nerds like us want; tyres size, exhaust note at x rpm, torque band, etc.  :wink:

I'm not that fussed about that level of detail either.  But you know what?  What really swayed me in favour of this car was the Top Gear review.  It gave a really good overview of what sort of car it is, what sort of person might like to drive it, and what sort of things it was good for.  It was also amusing and entertaining.

This was boring, irrelevant and uninformative.  I didn't even notice that he said the car was good.  He said it was a legend, which isn't quite the same thing.

Exonian, I agree with you about the highway robbery.  That might have been amusing if he'd actually made that point, but he didn't even do that.

Rolfe.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: andrewl on 07 July 2009, 11:18
watched the programme last night, firstly had to endure that item on potholes then the crap review on the Mazda 3. Having watched Topgear on Sunday night which was brilliant this programme was absolutely boring and will not watch it again.
When the road test finally did come on had to endure some twit going on about Dick Turpin and really didnt learn anything about the car.
Ive currently got an edition 30 and thinking of changing havnt really liked the new Gti until saw a red one in my local VW dealer and to be honest its really growing on me.
Anyone traded there ed 30 for the new Gti
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: AlanD on 07 July 2009, 11:20
When did
The Fifth Gear review was a bit boring, but at least he said it was good. I suppose tv tests are never going to go into the kind of detail forum nerds like us want; tyres size, exhaust note at x rpm, torque band, etc.  :wink:

I'm not that fussed about that level of detail either.  But you know what?  What really swayed me in favour of this car was the Top Gear review.  It gave a really good overview of what sort of car it is, what sort of person might like to drive it, and what sort of things it was good for.  It was also amusing and entertaining.

This was boring, irrelevant and uninformative.  I didn't even notice that he said the car was good.  He said it was a legend, which isn't quite the same thing.

Exonian, I agree with you about the highway robbery.  That might have been amusing if he'd actually made that point, but he didn't even do that.

Rolfe.

When did TG review the MK6? ? ?
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gc76 on 07 July 2009, 11:21
Wow did that car look the bees knees on 5th gear?  mind you the review was pretty rubbish although they agreed with us that this is the best gti!!

I have posted before that I wasn't a lover of the monza shadows but seeing them on the programme I changed my mind and I think they looked super cool.

Rang my dealer today he reckons it is showing up for building in the next 2 weeks and should be here by August, thing is as I've waited this long should I then hold out for 1st September registration??

I'm in the same boat.  My car will be ready for August but I thought that I would rather wait until the new reg came out
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Rolfe on 07 July 2009, 11:31
When did TG review the MK6? ? ?

OK, you win, the review I saw was the MkV.

As a non-Golf owner, that doesn't change my mind a lot, as you guys seem quite split on whether there's any real difference betwen the cars.

Rolfe.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: AlanD on 07 July 2009, 11:33
I remember that review well

"You can drop the kids off on the school run and then drive home like you've sat on a wasp!" :D :D :D

I would not like to comment on the differences between the MK5 and MK6  :lipsrsealed:  :grin:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Rolfe on 07 July 2009, 11:40
I remember that review well

"You can drop the kids off on the school run and then drive home like you've sat on a wasp!" :D :D :D

I would not like to comment on the differences between the MK5 and MK6  :lipsrsealed:  :grin:

That's the one!  Liked it.

Come on, unseal those lips.  You surely don't mean the Mk VI can't go "like you've sat on a wasp"?

Rolfe.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: AlanD on 07 July 2009, 11:49
No no no ! I love the MK6, think its a cracking motor.

Im just HUGLEY disappointed with VWs lack forward progress with the MK6. IMO its a MK5.5. It doesn't look all that different to the MK5, it wont go all that faster (seriously 10bhp is nothing). The interior is SLIGHTLY different to the MK5. You look at the improvements made between MK4 and MK5 then compare that to MK5 and MK6. If I was in the market for a new motor I'd SERIOUSLY be tempted to get as late and low mileage ED30 as possible and then go on a fantastic holiday / mod it into a serious weapon with all the money iv saved.
 
Then, spec it up to the same level as an S3 and its cost pretty much the same as an S3 and Id take an S3 over a GTI any day (265bhp 4WD thank you very much). This is all just my opinion however, the fact that my opinion is always right is far from the point ;) :D
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Mew on 07 July 2009, 11:57

Im just HUGLEY disappointed with VWs lack forward progress with the MK6. IMO its a MK5.5. It doesn't look all that different to the MK5, it wont go all that faster (seriously 10bhp is nothing). The interior is SLIGHTLY different to the MK5. You look at the improvements made between MK4 and MK5 then compare that to MK5 and MK6. If I was in the market for a new motor I'd SERIOUSLY be tempted to get as late and low mileage ED30 as possible and then go on a fantastic holiday / mod it into a serious weapon with all the money iv saved.
 

How much longer are people going to go on about it being a "mk5.5"? Surely that's exactly what it is, didn't VW even say something along those lines?
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 12:00
It's available to view here for those that didn't catch it. Here. (http://fwd.five.tv/videos/golf-gti)

Were you guys watching the same review as me?! Some of you guys need to take off the rose-tinted glasses. I heard him use words like average and underwhelming to describe it.

I did learn a lot of things about Dick Turpin that I didn't know though.

Yeah its average and underwhelming, I think I did hear him use those words. Think he also said its still the best hot hatch. Wonder what he thinks of the mk5 then.  :grin:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: AlanD on 07 July 2009, 12:07
How much longer are people going to go on about it being a "mk5.5"? Surely that's exactly what it is, didn't VW even say something along those lines?

Without trying to state the obviously thats not what it is. Its a MK6 otherwise it would still be a MK5 but a facelift version, which it isnt, ist a new model. VW openly stated that production of the MK6 was brought forward as the MK6 is cheaper to manufacture than the MK5 (before people, Kev, take that the wrong way I'm not saying its in any way inferior) you might getting yourself confused with that statement.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Rolfe on 07 July 2009, 12:53

Im just HUGLEY disappointed with VWs lack forward progress with the MK6. IMO its a MK5.5. It doesn't look all that different to the MK5, it wont go all that faster (seriously 10bhp is nothing). The interior is SLIGHTLY different to the MK5. You look at the improvements made between MK4 and MK5 then compare that to MK5 and MK6. If I was in the market for a new motor I'd SERIOUSLY be tempted to get as late and low mileage ED30 as possible and then go on a fantastic holiday / mod it into a serious weapon with all the money iv saved.
 

How much longer are people going to go on about it being a "mk5.5"? Surely that's exactly what it is, didn't VW even say something along those lines?

I've got that message, but I'm not worried about it.  I'm upgrading from an 11-and-a-half year old 118,000 miles-on-the-clock Peugeot 306 GTi-6 which I've had from new, and really, whether it's a Golf GTi 6 or a Golf GTi 5.5 is pretty much irrelevant to me.  Nobody has anything bad to say about the Mk5, and nobody is seriously suggesting that the Mk6 is worse than the Mk 5, so I don't have a problem with it.

(Maybe my bank balance has a problem with it, but that's a slightly different question.)

Rolfe.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 13:31
I'd probably bet that most who say its a mk5.5 are mk5 owners and people that know nothing about the mk6 and are just feeding off info from the the other bandwagon jumpers.

For those of you that don't know, and for those that are too lazy to check for themselves, here are some differences.

*note, not all changes are necessarily better, just noting the differences*

The body is different from the panels, to the lights, to the grills, the exhausts etc, they are different. Alloys (shadow). XDS differential, updated ESP, DCC/ACC, a different engine (ok, not totally different but modified TSI over FSI), its lower to the ground than the mk5, bi-xenons, different interior with better quality parts used, its cleaner, greener and more fuel efficient, and cheaper on your pocket due to less tax banding, engine is quieter, sound generator, sound dampening when driving is different and thats all i can think of from the top of my head at the moment.

Of course one or two touches are subtle and I totally understand that for the glass half empty mk5 owners you are trying to justify in your head that your car is still really good and the best, well sorry its not, nothing lasts forever. Dont get me wrong, the mk5 is still a gem of a car, its just a shame their owners were not still as classy.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 07 July 2009, 13:44
Mk7 due to be shown in 2 years.
I hope it is lighter and smaller than the current model (as VW have hinted).

I buy cars when there is something really interesting and different from my existing car (the DSG gearbox this time).  A MK7 GTI petrol/electric would be good.  If Honda's next Civic Type R is released as a hybrid (Honda is adding electric to all it's four pot engines in time) then I would be very keen.

I would never buy a car just to slightly update the one I've got, that's just dull.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 13:50
Mk7 due to be shown in 2 years.
I hope it is lighter and smaller than the current model (as VW have hinted).

I buy cars when there is something really interesting and different from my existing car (the DSG gearbox this time).  A MK7 GTI petrol/electric would be good.  If Honda's next Civic Type R is released as a hybrid (Honda is adding electric to all it's four pot engines in time) then I would be very keen.

I would never buy a car just to slightly update the one I've got, that's just dull.

Geesus, I actually agree with one of your posts.  :grin:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: AlanD on 07 July 2009, 14:08
I'd probably bet that most who say its a mk5.5 are mk5 owners and people that know nothing about the mk6 and are just feeding off info from the the other bandwagon jumpers.

For those of you that don't know, and for those that are too lazy to check for themselves, here are some differences.

*note, not all changes are necessarily better, just noting the differences*

The body is different from the panels, to the lights, to the grills, the exhausts etc, they are different. Alloys (shadow). XDS differential, updated ESP, DCC/ACC, a different engine (ok, not totally different but modified TSI over FSI), its lower to the ground than the mk5, bi-xenons, different interior with better quality parts used, its cleaner, greener and more fuel efficient, and cheaper on your pocket due to less tax banding, engine is quieter, sound generator, sound dampening when driving is different and thats all i can think of from the top of my head at the moment.

Of course one or two touches are subtle and I totally understand that for the glass half empty mk5 owners you are trying to justify in your head that your car is still really good and the best, well sorry its not, nothing lasts forever. Dont get me wrong, the mk5 is still a gem of a car, its just a shame their owners were not still as classy.

Kev, im getting sick of this, Im not knocking the MK6, I think its a great motor. Im just putting across my opinion on what is a public forum ffs.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 14:15
I'd probably bet that most who say its a mk5.5 are mk5 owners and people that know nothing about the mk6 and are just feeding off info from the the other bandwagon jumpers.

For those of you that don't know, and for those that are too lazy to check for themselves, here are some differences.

*note, not all changes are necessarily better, just noting the differences*

The body is different from the panels, to the lights, to the grills, the exhausts etc, they are different. Alloys (shadow). XDS differential, updated ESP, DCC/ACC, a different engine (ok, not totally different but modified TSI over FSI), its lower to the ground than the mk5, bi-xenons, different interior with better quality parts used, its cleaner, greener and more fuel efficient, and cheaper on your pocket due to less tax banding, engine is quieter, sound generator, sound dampening when driving is different and thats all i can think of from the top of my head at the moment.

Of course one or two touches are subtle and I totally understand that for the glass half empty mk5 owners you are trying to justify in your head that your car is still really good and the best, well sorry its not, nothing lasts forever. Dont get me wrong, the mk5 is still a gem of a car, its just a shame their owners were not still as classy.

Kev, im getting sick of this, Im not knocking the MK6, I think its a great motor. Im just putting across my opinion on what is a public forum ffs.

What was wrong with my post ? I'm putting my point across too.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Horney on 07 July 2009, 14:15
As a MKII owner who can not afford a MKV let alone a MKVI I find all this money flashing about very offensive. :grin:

MKV Edition 30 = Awesome
MKVI = dissapointing
R20 = Better be amazing or we're back to the world of lardy rubbish GTI's like the III and IV (In standard trim before III and IV owners start having a whinge).

Nick

Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: AlanD on 07 July 2009, 14:16
Dont get me wrong, the mk5 is still a gem of a car, its just a shame their owners were not still as classy.

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 14:19
Dont get me wrong, the mk5 is still a gem of a car, its just a shame their owners were not still as classy.

:rolleyes:

It's an opinion Alan.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: dubcruiser on 07 July 2009, 14:24
Mk7 due to be shown in 2 years.
I hope it is lighter and smaller than the current model (as VW have hinted).

I buy cars when there is something really interesting and different from my existing car (the DSG gearbox this time).  A MK7 GTI petrol/electric would be good.  If Honda's next Civic Type R is released as a hybrid (Honda is adding electric to all it's four pot engines in time) then I would be very keen.

I would never buy a car just to slightly update the one I've got, that's just dull.

Mk7 is at least four years away... I don't where you get your 2011 date from  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: AlanD on 07 July 2009, 14:26
You have clearly got in a huff and have done on several different occasions now when MK5s owners have expressed and tad bit of disappointment in the MK6 and then used the "ohh your just not happy that yours isn't the newest model" (which is complete and utter tussh). What you are failing to get into your head is that we are not knocking it. I've lost count how many times I have said this yet you still seem to have some form of grudge against MK5s owners, which imo is a shame.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 14:40
You have clearly got in a huff and have done on several different occasions now when MK5s owners have expressed and tad bit of disappointment in the MK6 and then used the "ohh your just not happy that yours isn't the newest model" (which is complete and utter tussh). What you are failing to get into your head is that we are not knocking it. I've lost count how many times I have said this yet you still seem to have some form of grudge against MK5s owners, which imo is a shame.

Get it all off you're chest Alan, better out than in I always say.

What I do admire is your uncanny ability to be able to make certain things that are said sound so innocent. e.g. When mk5 owners talk about the mk6 its nothing but 'a tad bit of dissapointment'  :laugh: :laugh: Honestly Alan, its priceless.

Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Rhyso on 07 July 2009, 14:42
these threads are epic  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: AlanD on 07 July 2009, 14:43
Make is sound innocent ? Do explain . .

When have I / anyone been straight out rude / disrespectful / offence about the MK6?

Im on the hook now and there is no coming off !  :grin:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: dubcruiser on 07 July 2009, 14:44
And what's more funny in here is most of these people haven't even got a Mk6 yet!!!  :grin:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 14:56
And what's more funny in here is most of these people haven't even got a Mk6 yet!!!  :grin:

I'm one of those people, I don't own a hundered thousand pound domino server either but I know a heck of a lot about them.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 15:00
Make is sound innocent ? Do explain . .

When have I / anyone been straight out rude / disrespectful / offence about the MK6?

Im on the hook now and there is no coming off !  :grin:

Good, now I got you to the point of no return, I'm not entertaining you no more.  :grin:  :tongue:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: AlanD on 07 July 2009, 15:02
Figures :rolleyes:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 15:06
Figures :rolleyes:

As i have been reminded many times, don't take it seriously. Its harmless banter.

What would this section be like without a Kev reaction, bloody boring place if you ask me, there's only about 2 of us with mk6's. !  :grin:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Max Q on 07 July 2009, 16:27

Kev, you are a tosser.

Is there an ignore function on this forum?
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gizzywizzy on 07 July 2009, 16:45
Can you lot not play nicely together, what's it matter who's got a mark 6 or who hasn't or who knows most about mark 5 or 6. What matters is that you are a GTI fan and in particular are loving the car or the idea of the car depending on whether you have ordered or not!!

No-one cares about scoring brownie points so be nice ok :rolleyes:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 17:05

Kev, you are a tosser.

Is there an ignore function on this forum?

Ahh, a mk5 owner, completely backs up by classless comment.

Will be owning the best hatch in the world soon, will you ?  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: AlanD on 07 July 2009, 17:06
:D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Max Q on 07 July 2009, 17:23

Kev, you are a tosser.

Is there an ignore function on this forum?

Ahh, a mk5 owner, completely backs up by classless comment.

Will be owning the best hatch in the world soon, will you ?  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

It was in fact your 'classless' statement which proved to all what a tosser you are.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 17:58

Kev, you are a tosser.

Is there an ignore function on this forum?

Ahh, a mk5 owner, completely backs up by classless comment.

Will be owning the best hatch in the world soon, will you ?  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

It was in fact your 'classless' statement which proved to all what a tosser you are.

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Jkctr on 07 July 2009, 18:29
Well this thread didnt end up anything like i thought it would  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 07 July 2009, 18:43
Kev give it a rest will you,can`t you try to get on with people,you must be a nightmare in the real world.You said you were leaving ,please hurry up you annoying little man
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: ub7rm on 07 July 2009, 18:55
All I've seen from mk5 owners is an attitude similar to my own in that yes the MK6 looks great, by all accounts slightly better handling, a bit more power and the icing on the cake (to me) is that there is more power but lower fuel economy and less emissions.  Undoubtedly progress and a better car.

Looks are always subjective and IMO the back of the MK6 is gorgeous - photo's don't do it justice, you have to see it in the flesh.  There is something about the front of the MK5 though which I like better - not saying the MK6 isn't nice (it is) but I prefer the MK5 nose.

The interior is fantastic and I like that you can get a proper premium sound system if you choose.

The reason I think its had a lukewarm reception from us MK5'sers is that none of these enhancements are a quantum leap like the MK4 to MK5 was.  Its a mild fettling and whilst there are many tweaks and improvements its not enough to tempt us out of what is fundamentally the same car ( :lipsrsealed:) but at a big cost to change.  If I was in the market for a new car now I would undoubtedly buy one (or if the fabled R20 made an appearance  :drool:) but nice as it is its not worth the change just for change's sake.

------

Kev you have jumped down the throat of anyone (including people who have come on here as new users looking into buying a MK6) who appear to you as if they are in the slightest way criticising the mk6, thrown irrational doubt over perfectly accurate statements, been abusive in general and just generally come across as an immature little boy.

Having been a user of this forum from when I got my first mk4 over three years ago you are the first person I've come across on here to display such a vulgar attitude.  You get from this forum (much like life) what you put in, maybe take a step back and look at your behaviour.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Exonian on 07 July 2009, 19:47
I've kept very quiet on the Kev issue too but he's really getting under my skin. His obsessive attitude towards the mk5.5 is one thing but the swearing and abuse is quite another on a public forum. I know he keeps saying it's all in jest and a wind up but it's petty and juvenile(sp) and bringing the section down. This is by far the most lively and interesting mk6 Golf based forum I've found but there is one person bringing it down. I'm not sure how well this section is moderated but if I was wearing the hat round here there would be one less member allowed to log in!!!
Deep breath......
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: dubcruiser on 07 July 2009, 19:59
^^ +1

Don't think this section is moderated... Yet
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Exonian on 07 July 2009, 20:10
I thought not as there's no 'report post' button I could find.
It's a shame it needs moderation but unfortunately it does.  :cry:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 07 July 2009, 20:19
Mk7 due to be shown in 2 years.
I hope it is lighter and smaller than the current model (as VW have hinted).

I buy cars when there is something really interesting and different from my existing car (the DSG gearbox this time).  A MK7 GTI petrol/electric would be good.  If Honda's next Civic Type R is released as a hybrid (Honda is adding electric to all it's four pot engines in time) then I would be very keen.

I would never buy a car just to slightly update the one I've got, that's just dull.

Mk7 is at least four years away... I don't where you get your 2011 date from  :rolleyes:

I read it in Autocar.  The model year for the Mk 7 is expected to be 2012, with first showing in 2011.

Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: gossa on 07 July 2009, 20:21
I don't know Kev and am new to the forum but it does seem like he has a tight spring and plenty of you regulars know how to wind it up, so it's easy to see why he bites.

Let's all take a deep breath and get to the horsepower shall we?
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 20:33
There's over 18,719 members on this board to my rekoning, and there's about 8 or 9 trolls that are regulars in the 'we hate kev' clique. I get on fine with over 18,700 other people. I have as much right to be in this forum as the next member. I'll leave when I'm told my time is up.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Jkctr on 07 July 2009, 20:33
Mk7 due to be shown in 2 years.
I hope it is lighter and smaller than the current model (as VW have hinted).

I buy cars when there is something really interesting and different from my existing car (the DSG gearbox this time).  A MK7 GTI petrol/electric would be good.  If Honda's next Civic Type R is released as a hybrid (Honda is adding electric to all it's four pot engines in time) then I would be very keen.

I would never buy a car just to slightly update the one I've got, that's just dull.


Mk7 is at least four years away... I don't where you get your 2011 date from  :rolleyes:

I read it in Autocar.  The model year for the Mk 7 is expected to be 2012, with first showing in 2011.



lol because autocar are always right  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 07 July 2009, 20:39
Kev get your coat :laugh:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 20:40
Kev get your coat :laugh:

 :grin:  :cry:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 07 July 2009, 20:41
So kev,now im NOT trying to wind you up so be nice,have you ordered then ?
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: 1400sfm on 07 July 2009, 20:42
Don't go Kev..... WE LOVE YOU REALLY!!!  :cry:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 20:44
Don't go Kev..... WE LOVE YOU REALLY!!!  :cry:

I need to feel this love.  :grin:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: 1400sfm on 07 July 2009, 20:47
Its the last time I put a post up, look at trouble its causing. :grin:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 20:47
So kev,now im NOT trying to wind you up so be nice,have you ordered then ?

Chill mate I know your not.

I wish I was the kind of person just to lie and say yes Simon, but unfortunately my luck wasnt in this morning, as when I called the guy I was hoping to talk to, he had left the office for 2 weeks as he's on holiday.  :sad:

Left some posts and explanations as to whats happened in another thread, but here's a couple (they may not make sense as they are replies)...

They are not dealers directly, I cant really give out client info, but without being too specific, this guy deals with all the lease cars in the fleet and is based at a head office, so not at any dealership garage or anything liek that and not a salesman either. He does however, have the authorisation to do any deal he wishes wither it be lease or purchase. Hence why I'd really like to talk to him to see what he can offer as were his clients too, so hoping for a good deal. As I said, never thought to ask for anyone else as I only have his name and number and was fine with the p.a's info.

I didn't think to ask, It was either his secretary, p.a. or whatever that answered the call. I know when I got his details to ring that he was the main man to talk to, so it didn't even cross my mind to ask for anyone else as I was given his name specifically. He is the person that deals with our company directly and as far as the dealer I was talking to last night was conceared too, was that he is the decision maker. I do have a little patience, 2 weeks is not long to wait when I have been waiting since the mk6 accouncement basically. I can put up with the you don't have a car, have you ordered yet comments for while longer yet.

I'm just really curious as to what kind of deal I'll get. Dealer said to me last night that his deal and even the deals they offer in the garages work differently. He was also very surprised that I knew his name and showed him his number. No matter how many times I said 'You are our client' it didnt seem to register, felt like I had stolen the info 



Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 20:48
Can't talk to the guy till he's back, thats on the 21st July. I will order immediately, if the deal is good of course.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 20:49
Its the last time I put a post up, look at trouble its causing. :grin:

See everybody, he said it was his fault !! ban him.




















 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 07 July 2009, 20:50
right sounds complicated
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 21:02
right sounds complicated

It's prob me thats making it that way.

I work for one of the largest accountancy firms in the world, we have some big big clients like Bank of England etc. Got told the other day after talking about cars, that one of our clients is Arnold Clark. Got a contact name and number for a high up guy in AC, as this guy does lease deals for our offices, he also set's up sales too. To cut a very long story short, I was hoping to call him, introduce myself, explain who I am and what car I want and wait to see what deal he could get for me through my firm, but as I said, when I called he was on holiday.

The holiday funds are killing me right now, also had vet bills eating away at my balance for a while there, without going into too much of my personal finances I need to watch what I'm doing, but got clearance the other day to order the car whenever I like rather than waiting till the end of the month. I'm upgrading my PC at the moment too, but bank of mum is thankfully paying for that (bless her) and also with my sister being very unwell at the moment I got a whole host of stuff on my mind, but car is high up the list and more or less just want it bought so I can cross it off and forget about it for a bit.

Did I say I was cutting a long story short ?  :grin:

Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 07 July 2009, 21:05
you a accountant then ?
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 21:07
you a accountant then ?

No not me, I'm rubbish with figures unless they are female, da daaa.  :grin:

I work in the support team.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 07 July 2009, 21:09
I.T ?
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 21:20
I.T ?

Yeah.  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: simonpolly on 07 July 2009, 21:24
nerd :grin: :grin: sorry could`nt resist
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 21:34
nerd :grin: :grin: sorry could`nt resist

 :grin:

Honestly, I'm as far away from that 'IT' look as you can get, I dont have glasses, I aint skinny, dont have spots and dont look like I could crack the da vinci code to save myself   :grin: I'm Fairly tall, almost 6ft, do lots of body building and only buy designer clothes, but my first love is computers and servers etc.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: keelaw on 07 July 2009, 22:12
right sounds complicated

It's prob me thats making it that way.

I work for one of the largest accountancy firms in the world, we have some big big clients like Bank of England etc. Got told the other day after talking about cars, that one of our clients is Arnold Clark. Got a contact name and number for a high up guy in AC, as this guy does lease deals for our offices, he also set's up sales too. To cut a very long story short, I was hoping to call him, introduce myself, explain who I am and what car I want and wait to see what deal he could get for me through my firm, but as I said, when I called he was on holiday.

The holiday funds are killing me right now, also had vet bills eating away at my balance for a while there, without going into too much of my personal finances I need to watch what I'm doing, but got clearance the other day to order the car whenever I like rather than waiting till the end of the month. I'm upgrading my PC at the moment too, but bank of mum is thankfully paying for that (bless her) and also with my sister being very unwell at the moment I got a whole host of stuff on my mind, but car is high up the list and more or less just want it bought so I can cross it off and forget about it for a bit.

Did I say I was cutting a long story short ?  :grin:



dude - working for one of the large accountancy firms, doesn't this mean that you have to declare such "benefits" from clients... and in fact if you got a good deal, that could be seen to be a breach of independence rules?

for the sake of your career is it worth it?

Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 22:18
right sounds complicated

It's prob me thats making it that way.

I work for one of the largest accountancy firms in the world, we have some big big clients like Bank of England etc. Got told the other day after talking about cars, that one of our clients is Arnold Clark. Got a contact name and number for a high up guy in AC, as this guy does lease deals for our offices, he also set's up sales too. To cut a very long story short, I was hoping to call him, introduce myself, explain who I am and what car I want and wait to see what deal he could get for me through my firm, but as I said, when I called he was on holiday.

The holiday funds are killing me right now, also had vet bills eating away at my balance for a while there, without going into too much of my personal finances I need to watch what I'm doing, but got clearance the other day to order the car whenever I like rather than waiting till the end of the month. I'm upgrading my PC at the moment too, but bank of mum is thankfully paying for that (bless her) and also with my sister being very unwell at the moment I got a whole host of stuff on my mind, but car is high up the list and more or less just want it bought so I can cross it off and forget about it for a bit.

Did I say I was cutting a long story short ?  :grin:



dude - working for one of the large accountancy firms, doesn't this mean that you have to declare such "benefits" from clients... and in fact if you got a good deal, that could be seen to be a breach of independence rules?

for the sake of your career is it worth it?



Yeah it certainly could be looked at that way, frowned upon or of course against the rules. No-one has told me any different and I don't know the defintative answer to it. Will certainly ask when I get into work tomorrow.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: keelaw on 07 July 2009, 22:27

best of luck with it.  let us know how it goes, i might be in a similar position.... tho i might not be able to wait till 21 Jul, i'm going to the stealer this weekend armed with internet quotes :)
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 07 July 2009, 22:43

best of luck with it.  let us know how it goes, i might be in a similar position.... tho i might not be able to wait till 21 Jul, i'm going to the stealer this weekend armed with internet quotes :)


Thanks.

Good luck with you're quotes. I found the dealers I visited glance at the internet quotes I took, just looked at the price and didnt entertain it in the slightest. One dealer offered me £1000 off and told me that was his max, and the very same dealer offered around £1800 for one of the other members in this forum. Then the dealer last night just said he personally could never beat that price. (my quotes were from dealdrivers and broadspeed)
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Rolfe on 07 July 2009, 23:42
I got no joy at all from Broadspeed with scrappage.  Without the scrappage they were offering over £2,200 discount, which I think would have been good for someone without an old car though.  But for me, it was less good than the £500 over and above the scrappage I'd already been offered.  (I don't think I'd get more than a few hundred for my old car privately, and I'd have to shell out for a service if I wasn't scrapping it.)

I found the DealDrivers price to be a spectacular incentive though.  It concentrated the minds wonderfully.  I won't repeat it all as I've posted it on the "Blue Graphite" thread, but I have a deal!

Rolfe.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 08 July 2009, 14:04
right sounds complicated

It's prob me thats making it that way.

I work for one of the largest accountancy firms in the world, we have some big big clients like Bank of England etc. Got told the other day after talking about cars, that one of our clients is Arnold Clark. Got a contact name and number for a high up guy in AC, as this guy does lease deals for our offices, he also set's up sales too. To cut a very long story short, I was hoping to call him, introduce myself, explain who I am and what car I want and wait to see what deal he could get for me through my firm, but as I said, when I called he was on holiday.

The holiday funds are killing me right now, also had vet bills eating away at my balance for a while there, without going into too much of my personal finances I need to watch what I'm doing, but got clearance the other day to order the car whenever I like rather than waiting till the end of the month. I'm upgrading my PC at the moment too, but bank of mum is thankfully paying for that (bless her) and also with my sister being very unwell at the moment I got a whole host of stuff on my mind, but car is high up the list and more or less just want it bought so I can cross it off and forget about it for a bit.

Did I say I was cutting a long story short ?  :grin:



dude - working for one of the large accountancy firms, doesn't this mean that you have to declare such "benefits" from clients... and in fact if you got a good deal, that could be seen to be a breach of independence rules?

for the sake of your career is it worth it?



Got clarification on that, as far as I've been told, If I get a decent deal then its not a benefit or perk as such, it just so happens I was told of the right person to talk to and its upto them wither they do me a deal or not.

Nothing illegal about it I'm told. Was also advised a lot of companies have customer rates and corporate rates, its just a benefit of working for a corporate company that said person can take advantage of.

I'm getting a tad excited, I don't want to get my hopes up too much incase the deal is not as sweet as I'm hoping it will be.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: keelaw on 09 July 2009, 09:54
Good stuff. Looking fwd to hearing about what deal you can get, perhaps even order an extra one while you're at it? London based by chance :)
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: jreed110 on 09 July 2009, 10:31
If I had to guess Kev you're unemployed, live with your mum and don't have the funds to buy a Mk6. Seriously, I'm sure you've said you're mid thirties or something and yet your mum pays for your computer while you splash out thousands on a new car??? Not sure how you have time to live on this forum quite so much either with your strenuous job and tough bodybuilding routine.

Oh and I'm fairly sure the taxman would see it as a benefit in kind.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Rolfe on 09 July 2009, 12:13
If I had to guess Kev you're unemployed, live with your mum and don't have the funds to buy a Mk6.

I can see why people are making assumptions about Kev.  I really can.  But I'm cutting him some slack.

.... also had vet bills eating away at my balance for a while there, ....

He has a pet.  He has a pet he is fond of.  He is a pet for whom he will make sacrifices if it's sick.

And this makes me feel dead guilty 'cos I'm a vet and I know I have colleagues who are a bit into the overcharging.  It's a minority for sure, but they exist.  (I practically had a stand-up fight with one of them at our last class reunion, greedy unprincipled bugger, and I know exactly how many exams he failed before they were pretty much forced to let him loose on the unsuspecting animal population too....)

There are bigger posers on the Internet than Kev.

Rolfe.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Jkctr on 09 July 2009, 12:16
Jeesus this thread still going? Why is there no moderator?
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 09 July 2009, 13:05
If I had to guess Kev you're unemployed, live with your mum and don't have the funds to buy a Mk6. Seriously, I'm sure you've said you're mid thirties or something and yet your mum pays for your computer while you splash out thousands on a new car??? Not sure how you have time to live on this forum quite so much either with your strenuous job and tough bodybuilding routine.

Oh and I'm fairly sure the taxman would see it as a benefit in kind.

I'm still taking this sh!te from people, and yet when I react to it I'm the one thats in the wrong ? f**k me.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 09 July 2009, 13:14
If I had to guess Kev you're unemployed, live with your mum and don't have the funds to buy a Mk6.

I can see why people are making assumptions about Kev.  I really can.  But I'm cutting his some slack.

.... also had vet bills eating away at my balance for a while there, ....

He has a pet.  He has a pet he is fond of.  He is a pet for whom he will make sacrifices if it's sick.

And this makes me feel dead guilty 'cos I'm a vet and I know I have colleagues who are a bit into the overcharging.  It's a minority for sure, but they exist.  (I practically had a stand-up fight with one of them at our last class reunion, greedy unprincipled bugger, and I know exactly how many exams he failed before they were pretty much forced to let him loose on the unsuspecting animal population too....)

There are bigger posers on the Internet than Kev.

Rolfe.

Over the past few days I have been very well bahaved, I've ignored the trolls and not swore till now, I wish people would give it a f**kin rest. If you and others can see why they are making assumptions over me, can you explain to me as to why you can make them, and what I have said that is not the truth ? I have said from the very start when I am ordering my car and never swayed from it, I have also had to justify to some of the people on here as to why I'm ordering in July. Why should I have to do that ? Why are people not nice enough to just say something like 'Enjoy your car when you order' or 'How long you got to go now Kev before you order' stuff like that ? I'll tell you why, in another thread a guy has said he actually has his car, people asked for pics, he took out out over the weekend and because he hadnt posted them when those people expected him to, they started to doubt he actually had the car. Do you see the kind of twits I have to put up with ? This is the last I'm explaining myself, its the last time I tell anyone anything about my private life and its the last time I justify to anyone when the f**k I buy my car. I'll buy it when I'm ready, either like it or piss the f**k off out my face or we can swap phone numbers and talk face to face about it. I'm a Poser ? f**k me, I've heard it all now.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 09 July 2009, 13:16
Jeesus this thread still going? Why is there no moderator?

a-f**kin-men to that.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: davoaj on 09 July 2009, 13:27
Does that mean you won't be posting anything for a while then?  :laugh:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Max Q on 09 July 2009, 13:33

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-roid-rage.htm (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-roid-rage.htm)
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 09 July 2009, 13:39

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-roid-rage.htm (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-roid-rage.htm)

 :grin: yeah I've seen that one before, always makes me chuckle.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 09 July 2009, 13:41
Does that mean you won't be posting anything for a while then?  :laugh:

Now where would the fun be in that.  :wink:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: davoaj on 09 July 2009, 13:48
Good lad!

Seriously though mate, I can see why people wind you up at times. But just remember it is only a forum and whilst it's a good place for banter and some decent advice don't lose track of the fact that nothing on here should really matter to you this much. Just enjoy it and use it for what it's meant for.

Then, when your car arrives you can stick some pictures up and get out there on the road instead of getting repetitive strain injuries by staring at your monitor all day and typing away on here!
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 09 July 2009, 13:55
If I had to guess Kev you're unemployed, live with your mum and don't have the funds to buy a Mk6. Seriously, I'm sure you've said you're mid thirties or something and yet your mum pays for your computer while you splash out thousands on a new car??? Not sure how you have time to live on this forum quite so much either with your strenuous job and tough bodybuilding routine.

Oh and I'm fairly sure the taxman would see it as a benefit in kind.

Forgot to reply to this bit...

Should I let the taxman know I got my corporate gym membership too, after all that price is not available to the public ?
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 09 July 2009, 14:02
Good lad!

Seriously though mate, I can see why people wind you up at times. But just remember it is only a forum and whilst it's a good place for banter and some decent advice don't lose track of the fact that nothing on here should really matter to you this much. Just enjoy it and use it for what it's meant for.

Then, when your car arrives you can stick some pictures up and get out there on the road instead of getting repetitive strain injuries by staring at your monitor all day and typing away on here!

Agreed Davo, I just wish others would remember its just a forum too, and while I shouldnt react to them, they are just as much in the wrong by baiting and trolling for a reaction. Mate at work here just sitting next to me, told him I'm unemployed, I have no intention on buying a car I just joined a forum for fun and so I could lie to people, and my mum gives me all her money for computers etc, of course after we laughed a bit, he did say, and I quote 'Kev, sounds like those neds are just jealous mate, and one other thing, why do you still goto the site and what day is it you cash your giro ?'  :grin:
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: AlanD on 09 July 2009, 14:06
I think the reason people say the things they do Kev is because you seem incapable of actually reading what has been said and taking it in and then just go off in your own little world. I know it frustrates the hell out of me when I say something and then you turn it in something completely different to what I said, I then re-explain myself and you STILL fail to take in what I'm saying.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Rolfe on 09 July 2009, 14:33
<....snip rest of rant....>  I'm a Poser ? f**k me, I've heard it all now.

Crikey, and I was trying to defend him!

Cool it, Kev.  There is a certain type of young man who is all talk and no action.  Whether or not the inference is justified, your posts come over somewhat in that way.  When you finally get your car, and post the pics, they'll be laughing on the other side of their faces.

Kev has a long way to go before he's close to my gold standard of "poser".  See below for reference.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=2649996#post2649996 (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=2649996#post2649996)

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=2650090#post265009 (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=2650090#post265009)

That guy originally posted that lot in his own name.  He went on to defend pretty much to his last breath some interesting misconceptions including the notion that there is no gravity in a vacuum - for example inside a cathode ray tube.  Unfortunately the other thing that showed up against his name when someone Googled it was a court judgement against him for mortgage arrears.   :rolleyes:

Kev isn't even in that league.  Kev is fantasising, like we all do.  Doesn't make him insincere.  Sometimes dreams just take a bit longer to realise, that's all.

Rolfe.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 09 July 2009, 14:40
I think the reason people say the things they do Kev is because you seem incapable of actually reading what has been said and taking it in and then just go off in your own little world. I know it frustrates the hell out of me when I say something and then you turn it in something completely different to what I said, I then re-explain myself and you STILL fail to take in what I'm saying.

I'm capable of reading whats said, dont give me that crap.

Let me give you some examples.. such as.... 'i dont believe your getting a car' 'at least we have ordered one' 'have you ordered a car yet? didnt think so' 'your a tosser' 'your unemployed'

I thought so though, its my fault, what is actually typed up there, is not actually what was said, care to explain to me where I've gone wrong ?
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: AlanD on 09 July 2009, 14:41
Im not doubting he is getting a MK6, tbh I couldn't care less.

Iv clearly missed something here, why do people no longer think he is getting one?
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 09 July 2009, 14:43
Im not doubting he is getting a MK6, tbh I couldn't care less.

Iv clearly missed something here, why do people no longer think he is getting one?

Good question.

I've got another question, Alan, why dont you and others tell everyone else that swears at me, and baits a reaction out of me to calm down too ? Why am I the only one that seems to be the 'outcast' in the clique ?
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: AlanD on 09 July 2009, 14:48
You make a point Kev  :undecided:

I just got wound up with tunnel vision view of MK5 owners not liking the MK6 (which isnt true) and no matter how many times I try and explain you didn't listen but thats petty now and ages ago.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 09 July 2009, 14:59
You make a point Kev  :undecided:

I just got wound up with tunnel vision view of MK5 owners not liking the MK6 (which isnt true) and no matter how many times I try and explain you didn't listen but thats petty now and ages ago.


I apologise, and as I said earlier, I want to play my part and try and keep the atmosphere good here, but it has to be a 2 way thing. I have checked over my posts the past few days and I have been talked to decently by people and have had no problems with anything or anyone. then i get some little cockend telling me i aint got a job and questioning how I manage my time ? Yet again, I'm the bad one, I'm told to calm down, and yet that tw-at and the others get their laughs and kicks from it while getting away scott free.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: jreed110 on 09 July 2009, 15:28
Ha I'm sorry if I started it up again, hadn't been on for a few days so it was my first comment having read some of Kev's ridiculous statments. Kev to be honest I haven't seen anyone swear at you online or call you a 'cockend'. Based on how you come across I was just questioning some of your statements, as you appear to be either the most immature 30 something year old going or a a twelve year old posing as something else. I mean seriously, read your last post, it sounds like your whinging to mummy and daddy that life's not fair!

On a side note if you do actually work you have one kick ass job being paid to post on here all day long, I'm secretly just jealous I have to actually work for my money.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Rolfe on 09 July 2009, 15:51
Never, never overestimate the difficulty of posting on a forum when your actual job requires you to be sitting at a computer typing stuff.

Rolfe.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: VWKev on 09 July 2009, 15:54
Ha I'm sorry if I started it up again, hadn't been on for a few days so it was my first comment having read some of Kev's ridiculous statments. Kev to be honest I haven't seen anyone swear at you online or call you a 'cockend'. Based on how you come across I was just questioning some of your statements, as you appear to be either the most immature 30 something year old going or a a twelve year old posing as something else. I mean seriously, read your last post, it sounds like your whinging to mummy and daddy that life's not fair!

On a side note if you do actually work you have one kick ass job being paid to post on here all day long, I'm secretly just jealous I have to actually work for my money.

It's ok, there's a bit of a habit of people conveniently browsing past the trolls posts for my replies, so its very easy to miss. I was called a tosser in this very thread, you obviously didnt look very hard.

As I said, I wont explain myself again to anyone here, so of course feel free to think what you like.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: p3eps on 09 July 2009, 16:52
Wow!!!
I trawled through this thread hoping that someone would have put a youtube link to the 5th Gear show or something, and have read some amount of twaddle instead!

Its amazing how someone can get so wound up by people not saying the same things as them about a car that they 'may' buy one day!  Personally I did own an ED30 which was written off fairly recently, and am in the market for a new car.  I test drove a mk6 GTI, but it didnt really appeal much to me.  The car looks nice, the interior seems to be better quality (although its cheaper to make?!), but it didn't seem to have the same power or fun to drive.  I'd rather get something that was a progressive step forward from my ED30, and I don't really feel the mk6 is 'much' of a step forward.  I did love the reverse camera though!!!

Scirocco R for me  :evil:
Hopefully a good bit quicker, more aggressively styled, and probably not THAT much more cash than a decently specced mk6 GTI.
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: Exonian on 09 July 2009, 17:41
The link was posted on page 6 by Max Q    :wink:  Before the thread descended into the usual mk6 forum war.

I've test driven a couple mk6s now and I can't say they appeal that much to me. Incidentally one dealer I was courting offered me their Demo for £21k (nearly standard spec) and yet my local SEAT dealer offered me their demo Leon Cupra for under £16k. The SEAT dealer offered me a better price on my Golf too. I think I know where my money's going.........the new GTI is nice but it ain't £5k plus nice over the Leon and it ain't £12k nicer than my mk5!!!!!!

I await the abuse..........
Title: Re: MK 6 GTI on 5th Gear
Post by: topher on 09 July 2009, 17:50
Cut the rubbish out please guys, it's all getting a bit tedious innit.

Thread appears to be over so I'm locking it. Play nice from now on or I start clicking the big red button :evil: