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Re: BT Ordered to Block Pirate Sites
« Reply #20 on: 28 July 2011, 20:38 »
october supposedly and newzbin are working on a work around
and theres 1000's of other newsgroup sites anyway :lipsrsealed:
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Re: BT Ordered to Block Pirate Sites
« Reply #21 on: 28 July 2011, 21:11 »
The same with music - I don't bother buying music from artists I know are stinking rich though. They can live without my money. If music was all a lot cheaper, like say £1 an album and £2 a film, I would buy almost everything.. but it's not.
The thing with music, on average the artist gets 10% of the final RRP, so if you bought a CD for £10, the artist would get about £1, if it's a band with 4 members they would have to split that £1 4 ways, after the manager takes their 20% of course.

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Re: BT Ordered to Block Pirate Sites
« Reply #22 on: 28 July 2011, 21:25 »
october supposedly and newzbin are working on a work around
and theres 1000's of other newsgroup sites anyway :lipsrsealed:

shhh now, it's a good publicity stunt to calm the politicians, producers & peons.
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Re: BT Ordered to Block Pirate Sites
« Reply #23 on: 29 July 2011, 00:04 »
The same with music - I don't bother buying music from artists I know are stinking rich though. They can live without my money. If music was all a lot cheaper, like say £1 an album and £2 a film, I would buy almost everything.. but it's not.
The thing with music, on average the artist gets 10% of the final RRP, so if you bought a CD for £10, the artist would get about £1, if it's a band with 4 members they would have to split that £1 4 ways, after the manager takes their 20% of course.
Need to get a better deal me thinks!

Seriously though, after dj-ing and collecting vinyl for nearly 10yrs I've paid a silly amount of money into the system...I also still support legit versions but £7:99 for alias of 1,0s on a drive that may fail I don see the costings there TBH. That's why people DL. I only ever bought vinyl and still only buy vinyl...I'd never pay money for mp3 unless it wasn't available in another format. And even then I'd prefer to blag a copy rather than pay.

I think the whole point of this though is internet censorship isn't it??? One step away from China and now Rupert Murdoch looks under pressure what will the news look like if he can't control what's seen?  Will it just be what the government want?  What else will they monitor you for?? Travel, internet, banking, next up water consumption, and finally thoughts...oh thats right, i can't say that the sexual exploitation rings are 75% asian run and have massive links to the drugs and human trafficking trades can I  :grin:

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Re: BT Ordered to Block Pirate Sites
« Reply #24 on: 29 July 2011, 00:13 »
Surely alot of piracy only exists because the prices of everything are so expensive.
Computer games are a good example.
Is it not the same problem as smuggled booze and fags? if you overprice something, someone will find a way of selling it cheaper.
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Re: BT Ordered to Block Pirate Sites
« Reply #25 on: 29 July 2011, 04:26 »
correct me if I,m wrong, which I'm sure you will do, but newsgroup sites dont actually host pirate products, they just provide links to them right?

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Re: BT Ordered to Block Pirate Sites
« Reply #26 on: 29 July 2011, 08:32 »
correct me if I,m wrong, which I'm sure you will do, but newsgroup sites dont actually host pirate products, they just provide links to them right?


Correct but Usenet is seemingly unstoppable for whatever reason

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Re: BT Ordered to Block Pirate Sites
« Reply #27 on: 29 July 2011, 08:41 »
Mr White denies this.

"We make enough money for strippers and Jack Daniels but Ferraris may be some way off," he said.

This was a quote when Newzbin 2 spokesperson was accused of making over 1million from profits for the search engine. Thing with all of this is, Google brings up more dodgy stuff than this one site so why not serve them the papers? Oh, yeah, they are multi million dollar company possibly billions  :grin:

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Re: BT Ordered to Block Pirate Sites
« Reply #28 on: 29 July 2011, 09:59 »
The same with music - I don't bother buying music from artists I know are stinking rich though. They can live without my money. If music was all a lot cheaper, like say £1 an album and £2 a film, I would buy almost everything.. but it's not.
The thing with music, on average the artist gets 10% of the final RRP, so if you bought a CD for £10, the artist would get about £1, if it's a band with 4 members they would have to split that £1 4 ways, after the manager takes their 20% of course.
Need to get a better deal me thinks!

Seriously though, after dj-ing and collecting vinyl for nearly 10yrs I've paid a silly amount of money into the system...I also still support legit versions but £7:99 for alias of 1,0s on a drive that may fail I don see the costings there TBH. That's why people DL. I only ever bought vinyl and still only buy vinyl...I'd never pay money for mp3 unless it wasn't available in another format. And even then I'd prefer to blag a copy rather than pay.

I think the whole point of this though is internet censorship isn't it??? One step away from China and now Rupert Murdoch looks under pressure what will the news look like if he can't control what's seen?  Will it just be what the government want?  What else will they monitor you for?? Travel, internet, banking, next up water consumption, and finally thoughts...oh thats right, i can't say that the sexual exploitation rings are 75% asian run and have massive links to the drugs and human trafficking trades can I  :grin:

So your logic is, because you've paid for music in the past, you shouldn't have to pay for it now?

If you can't afford to buy something, don't buy it. I really want an Aston Martin, but i'm not going to steal one just because it could be easy. Same with music, or a bit of software. If people continue to take it for free, that content will, at some point, cease to exist. The companies NEED to make money to continue to trade and produce the product.

To those complaining about the margins some companies make, suck it up. Would you do your job if all you ever got paid was the bare minimum to cover your costs? Of course not.

To the person who said "I only download it to evaluate it first". Seriously? You honestly expect anyone to believe you download a song of acceptable quality, then if you like it, you go and purchase it legitimately?

We're a LONG way from the level of censorship in China. This is just trying to prevent a law being broken.

I really don't understand what the problem is here. The law is black and white on this. Downloading copyrighted material is illegal, simple as. By banning the sites that freely distribute it, stops a law being broken. Look at it another way, child pornography is illegal - should we allow that to be freely distributed?

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Re: BT Ordered to Block Pirate Sites
« Reply #29 on: 29 July 2011, 10:17 »

To those complaining about the margins some companies make, suck it up. Would you do your job if all you ever got paid was the bare minimum to cover your costs? Of course not.


what's the choice working to survive or claiming job seekers  :rolleyes:

So your logic is, because you've paid for music in the past, you shouldn't have to pay for it now?

what about downloading music you've already paid for?  I've had CDs in the past that have gotten scratched, I've already aid for this so why can't I download it?

To the person who said "I only download it to evaluate it first". Seriously? You honestly expect anyone to believe you download a song of acceptable quality, then if you like it, you go and purchase it legitimately?

believe what you want, the stack of CDs on my shelves says otherwise  :rolleyes:

Downloading copyrighted material is illegal, simple as.

wrong, I suggest you actually read up on copyright law before making such statements