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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: matchboy on 01 September 2009, 16:42
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just having a chat with the finance guy at my dealer in prep for friday's collection day (woop woop) - he was telling me that i could have the car chipped by VW (they have their own company he said?) which would cost £500 and wouldn't invalidate the warrenty as it would be done through them. he said it would put the bhp up to 256.
what's the sp on all this chipping lark? i am not a techy when it comes to cars (i love driving but know little about under the bonnet stuff). so does anyone know:
- how will this effect my fuel consumption? although i drive hard i still like the theory that i'll get 36 ish combined
- how much extra speed will it give me (0-60 and 30-70)
- can the car cope with an extra 40 odd bhp?
- how will it effect my insurance premium?
- will it make that much difference and is it worth it in you chaps opinions?
thanks for your help!
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search the MK4, MK5 and Remapping Sections for lots of info - the subject has been covered a thousand times
the same principles apply to your new MK6
jist is - computer is plugged in, map uploaded, GTI now a PROPER GTI :tongue:
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I wouldnt have got a gti if it couldnt be chipped :wink:
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I know this will have been discussed in other forums but what's the general reaction of "regular" insurance companies to chipping? I'm with More Than, for example. Do you have to go down the specialit route once the car is chipped?
I only ask because 265hp souns very tempting!!!!
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I know this will have been discussed in other forums but what's the general reaction of "regular" insurance companies to chipping? I'm with More Than, for example. Do you have to go down the specialit route once the car is chipped?
I only ask because 265hp souns very tempting!!!!
admiral offer it on their list of mods. iirc it didn't have a crazy effect on the quoted premium... something in the order of 50 quid or so.
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Might be worth a chat with Mr More Than then cos £50 is nothing really. I was expecting you to say hundreds!!
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just did a quick quote. it actually was 100 quid extra with admiral and that was an engine chip up to 25% extra bhp. i.e. up to 52bhp for the golf gti.
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Superchips seem to be saying that the true output of the standard engine is 220hp and that their device increases power by 49hp to... err... 256hp. I can't quite get my head round their maths there and TBH it is putting me off buying their equipment a little. Have I missed something?
http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/GolfMk6GTi.pdf (http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/GolfMk6GTi.pdf)
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When i chipped my audi a4, direct line basically asked what power increase in % terms i'd got, then stuck my premium up about £70 per year. In my case it was the alloys that really hurt, but then they're insured on value rather than anything else.
On the other hand, I think I'll check the car's wheel spinning ability as stock over the winter & worry about re-maps come next spring :smiley:
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I think I'll check the car's wheel spinning ability as stock over the winter & worry about re-maps come next spring :smiley:
very sensible, that's good advice - i think i might do that as well - cheers!
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I enquired about getting my Edition 30 chipped a while back. The insurance premium was only going to go up about £50 per year - but the excess was going to go from £400 - £800! :laugh:
At the time I was 30 years old with about 10 years no claims bonus!
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Superchips seem to be saying that the true output of the standard engine is 220hp and that their device increases power by 49hp to... err... 256hp. I can't quite get my head round their maths there and TBH it is putting me off buying their equipment a little. Have I missed something?
http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/GolfMk6GTi.pdf (http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/GolfMk6GTi.pdf)
Std quoted bhp is 207 so 49 extra woudl take it to 256. Perhaps these are "at the wheel" figures and 220 is the "true" engine output, ie with no loss from transmission?
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Std quoted bhp is 207 so 49 extra woudl take it to 256. Perhaps these are "at the wheel" figures and 220 is the "true" engine output, ie with no loss from transmission?
You may be right, but it's still an odd, not to say misleading way of providing key figures.
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Its usually percentage bhp increase they ask you.. so as long as you get the gains correct as opposed to the wheel/engine bhp you should be ok. :smiley:
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Superchips seem to be saying that the true output of the standard engine is 220hp and that their device increases power by 49hp to... err... 256hp. I can't quite get my head round their maths there and TBH it is putting me off buying their equipment a little. Have I missed something?
http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/GolfMk6GTi.pdf (http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/GolfMk6GTi.pdf)
Avoid - seriously!
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Superchips seem to be saying that the true output of the standard engine is 220hp and that their device increases power by 49hp to... err... 256hp. I can't quite get my head round their maths there and TBH it is putting me off buying their equipment a little. Have I missed something?
http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/GolfMk6GTi.pdf (http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/GolfMk6GTi.pdf)
Avoid - seriously!
why?
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Funny you should ask, I also asked the same innocent question not too long ago and got the following reply. I assume the same applies to anyone else who mentions Superchips (hope you don't mind me quoting you, TT?):
I'm surprised about the comments regarding Superchips, I was thinking about using them as a) they are involved with the VW Racing, so assumed they had expertise in the VW range of engines
Jeeeeeezz. Search this forum - seriously!
Firstly, Superchips do NOT have anything to do with VW Racing - appart from paying shed loads of money to have their name on the side of all the cars in the VW Racing Cup. They do NOT do the tuning on the cars - they are all free to use whoever they like, and most will use either Revo, GIAC, or VWRs own map. Superchips have, in the past (I can't comment about now, because I can't be arsed with them) - been known to blatantly LIE and mislead on their own website.
Secondly, they do NOT have expertise in VW engines. The Fifth Gear test used either a Mk4 Golf or a Mk4 Polo (can't remember which) - Fifth Gear specifically instructed Superchips to create a 'specific' custom map, and they actually made it WORSE!. Look on Superchips website - and you will see they 'claim' to be experts in every single car in the UK - from a Mk5 GTI - to a Lada Riva, to a Proton Wira, to a Perodua Nippa - so how the fcuk can they claim to be experts on VAG products. Superchips have been repeatedly proven to be blatantly underdeveloped, and often make LESS power than stock - just log onto Audi-Sport.net, and as the S3 owners, and indeed, some Ed30 owners here also had probs with less power than claimed. Superchips use a very 'dangerous' method of 'remaping' - by simply whacking up the turbo boost to levels which verge on the extreme - but don't bother to work on any of the other 30 or so tables within the ECU map! :rolleyes:
Just out of interest, TT, if you had to chip a golf tomorrow using your own "pie and mash" which suppliers would you consider and which would you avoid?
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You would be best to run the car in before getting it remapped, maybe 8-10K miles.
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place your bet now!!! what map would TT go for????
I vote REVO!!
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"Look on Superchips website - and you will see they 'claim' to be experts in every single car in the UK - from a Mk5 GTI - to a Lada Riva, to a Proton Wira, to a Perodua Nippa - so how the fcuk can they claim to be experts on VAG products"
Hmm, that is quite true actually. Good point. So, are we all agreed that Revo is the best option, then? If so, maybe we could organise some kind of group buy to bring the price down a bit?
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Having followed 2yrs of "which remap" thread over on the mk5 board I would be happy to give revo money to remap my car. Although there are some other good ones out there.. Custom Code, GIAC, and im sure there are a few more.
Its really down to what you want from your car as some maps are more "everyday" useable than others which are purely for blasting up and down drag strips. :nerd:
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I vote REVO!!
Give me an 'R'... :laugh:
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Who is Layman ?
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I vote REVO!!
Give me an 'R'... :laugh:
R!
Someone had to do it :grin:
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Who is Layman ?
Isn't it that big bank that went bust and sparked off the credit crunch?
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Who is Layman ?
Isn't it that big bank that went bust and sparked off the credit crunch?
Could be, if they cant handle some pennies I wouldnt want them chipping my gti, just couldnt trust them.