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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Golf mk7 GTD/TDI => Topic started by: deerehill78@googlemail.co on 10 March 2019, 21:31
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Hi, i have recently bought a 2016 golf GTD (DSG) i have notice the car sucks alot of fuel, i drive it on a daily basis to work £20 will prob last me 3 days in total my trip is 34 miles does this seem right or is it just me? I drive it in eco mode but i want to have more fun in it but if put it in normal mode then you can really see the needle move........ someone please help!!!!!!!!!!
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Are you saying that you are getting 102 miles from £20 of diesel? Or is that 34 miles each way, in which case 204 miles.
If it's 34 miles total per day, then that's about 30mpg depending on how much you're paying for fuel), which isn't great for a car capable of double that. However, there are multiple factors in fuel economy and the car is only one of them. If it's cold weather, you sit in a lot of traffic jams, or you're a bit heavy footed then none of these things will help fuel economy. Neither will carrying lots of unnecessary weight, short journeys where the engine doesn't get up to temp or lots of steep inclines.
You could start by checking tyre pressures and engine oil levels.
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Hi, i have recently bought a 2016 golf GTD (DSG) i have notice the car sucks alot of fuel, i drive it on a daily basis to work £20 will prob last me 3 days in total my trip is 34 miles does this seem right or is it just me? I drive it in eco mode but i want to have more fun in it but if put it in normal mode then you can really see the needle move........ someone please help!!!!!!!!!!
Previously owned a 63 plate GTD with DSG for 3 years and even at sustained town driving I would get low to mid 30's, the long term average over 3 years ended up being 38 MPG (town, commute and Motorway) but on Motorways I was easily getting mid 50s +
My Golf R is averaging 29 MPG on exactly the same demographic of driving as the GTD
ECO mode only makes any difference on Motorways and its marginal, I dumped the use of that many years ago, it may as well nt exist as an option
The type of driving that drove down the GTD economy was definitely the town and local driving and fact I just drive the car and not look at economy (use the performance)
To increase economy you need to let engine warm up sufficiently and get to a steady speed, the economy would rise markedly - sweet spot is the 55-65 MPH zone I would say, engine revs are low and you are cruising -
Moved to the R as its the car you would want given the AWD and the 300 BHP but will say the GTD is all the car you would ever need, decent performance, and an amazing long legged cruiser, churning the miles in great comfort (especially with DCC) and decent economy also (remember getting 450 miles out of £55 worth of diesel)
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Eco mode makes virtually zero difference. Just forget it.
I can only assume that you've been sitting in traffic to hit that low mpg, because on the open road, even at low temperatures (which do effect consumption) fully ragging it (and yes the GTD does bloody fly when you rag it!), you still get 40mpg in my experience.
Going a steady 70mph down the motorway or 50mph on free flowing A roads, I'd expect to see 50+ mpg, even as high as approaching sixty if the weather and the terrain is flat enough.
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mines sh!te on fuel too , owned it since september last year ,,only getting 350 miles to full tank of fuel 43litres =350 mile . i wish i bought petrol now my mk6 was much better on fuel :angry:
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Are you sitting in traffic Hepton or just doing very short trips?
That's ~30mpg...
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Are you sitting in traffic Hepton or just doing very short trips?
That's ~30mpg...
short trips most of time
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They are at their thirstiest when cold and don`t give good mpg until warm so short journeys will give a poor result.
Keeping under 2k revs until warm will help.
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I had a 140bhp mk6 2.0D and that would return 50mpg no matter what and 60 was in easy reach with a little more care. This car is much more sensitive to temperature, traffic and how you deploy your right foot. It would not surprise me at all that 30mpg was all you were getting for short trips in town and cold temps. Take it for a long run and see how it performs.
If all you are doing is short trips then the DPF regen may be on a never ending cycle as well as it never gets to complete - when this is happening it uses more fuel than normal.
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My 17 GTD Wagon is okay on fuel, can get 400 miles plus on city driving and achieved nearly 600 on a full tank motorway run from Cornwall to Edinburgh. Eco mode makes little difference, honestly think it makes the car work harder as the power is higher up the rev range. Sport mode on the motorway sees it regularly get 59-60mpg best so far was 68mpg driving like a Saint. My friend has the 17 Tiguan and gets high 50s.
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My 17 GTD Wagon is okay on fuel, can get 400 miles plus on city driving and achieved nearly 600 on a full tank motorway run from Cornwall to Edinburgh. Eco mode makes little difference, honestly think it makes the car work harder as the power is higher up the rev range. Sport mode on the motorway sees it regularly get 59-60mpg best so far was 68mpg driving like a Saint. My friend has the 17 Tiguan and gets high 50s.
when you say you get 400 miles on city driving is that from the computer estimate or actual miles?
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Actual miles I use my fuel card app to keep an accurate log of miles
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Hi, i have recently bought a 2016 golf GTD (DSG) i have notice the car sucks alot of fuel, i drive it on a daily basis to work £20 will prob last me 3 days in total my trip is 34 miles does this seem right or is it just me? I drive it in eco mode but i want to have more fun in it but if put it in normal mode then you can really see the needle move........ someone please help!!!!!!!!!!
We really need proper MPG figures, not that you put £X amount in the tank (which could be cheap supermarket or shell ultra fuel bought on the M25, with a huge price per litre variation) and drive Y miles. What does the car computer say for the trip MPG, and the MPG since last fuelled? And tell us the type of journey, ie through town, A roads, motorway etc.
My GTI gets 40-47 on my journey to work, but drops to 30 on a short trip around town so the variation can be large, but the GTD should be very economical.
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I had this issue with my GTD 2015. Bought it on 66k and was getting 30's or even lower local. Motorway run it would be rare to get to 50's unless it was a long journey (1hr +) or else usually mid 40's.
Did a lot of research on fuels etc and I am trialling something with good returns.
Shell V-Power + Millers Power Eco Max - First fill - slightly improved figures but could be anything really
Shell Fuel Save Diesel + Millers Power Eco Max - 40's local and 52 MPG recorded consistently this week on an 8 mile motorway run.
It is slightly less MPG on the way to work and I am putting that down to cold start and low temp (of the car and the weather) 48 mpg when I park up at work.
Going to continue with Millers and fuel up here and there with premium diesels just to give a clear out of the engine and should over time improve MPG.
Eco and Normal modes don't make a difference. It's how heavy your foot is.
Sport mode does affect MPG as it's high revs before gear changes.
Individual mode I set to ECO but ACC on sport on the motorway.
(All in my humble opinion :cool:)
Hope that helps.
Bodz
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A very gentle throttle until the engine warms through helps :wink:
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ninety mile round trip today (just under an hour each way), mainly motorway and dual carriageway... "normal" mode, 14C air temp and no more than 70mph running on ACC most of the way.... 61mpg.
40 mile trip the other day, 25C air temp, driving "spirited" in sport mode at *ahem* "no more than 70mph", 42mpg. (quite a lot of fun actually, nice to remind myself she can fly if you want to)
Manual Mk7.5 GTD, zero mods.
Other than crawling along in a giant traffic jam for short distances (sub 5 miles), from cold, in the cold (below about 7C) I think the worst I've ever managed in a Mk7.x GTD is 38mpg.
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ninety mile round trip today (just under an hour each way), mainly motorway and dual carriageway... "normal" mode, 14C air temp and no more than 70mph running on ACC most of the way.... 61mpg.
40 mile trip the other day, 25C air temp, driving "spirited" in sport mode at *ahem* "no more than 70mph", 42mpg. (quite a lot of fun actually, nice to remind myself she can fly if you want to)
Manual Mk7.5 GTD, zero mods.
Other than crawling along in a giant traffic jam for short distances (sub 5 miles), from cold, in the cold (below about 7C) I think the worst I've ever managed in a Mk7.x GTD is 38mpg.
That's not bad. Mine being a DSG I guess its not bad if i'm slowly creeping back up to the mid 50's with a shot of Miller's.
My 3rd fuel up with Millers coming up soon so I'll try report back with proper mileage and pence per litre etc.
Bodz
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I get similar 'mid 50's' on a relatively gentle motorway poodle, normal mid 30's around town. As has been said before you do need to take it easy when cold and of course these do take c. 5-10 miles to warm up dep on temp.
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Don't know if this helps but just did a 12 mile shopping run this morning from a cold start.
Outside temp 18c
12 miles in total [in fairly clear roads but inner city Birmingham so expect traffic lights and roundabouts]
Got 44.9 MPG
Running Shell Regular Diesel with Millers Power Ecomax.
It's definitely a lot better than what I was achieving before. Millers is doing me good. Might look out for a big 5 litre can if I can get a good deal.
I think it's also to do with carbon build up etc and cleaning it out regularly with V-power or BP ultimate here and there (Every 4th/5th fill?) and then using millers has just helped with the regular diesel. Just my thoughts after listening and trialling what everyone on here has said.
Bodz
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I only use random petrol station fuel.... nothing clever at all.
But I do a lot of miles, maybe you just needed to blow the cobwebs out a bit.
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The 18 degree ambient temperature will be helping massively. Try your experiments during the winter months and see what happens, you'll get nowhere near what you're getting now from a cold start.
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This is my first diesel so it's quite interesting learning about the characteristics of a diesel vs petrol. Got it in December so by the time I got to grips with it summer arrived. So going through a full winter will surely be interesting.
I'm just wondering for those who are creeping up to 100k what would you do in terms of "deeper" engine work that may affect it's mpg (if it does at all)?
I remember on my MK5 I cleaned out throttle body and that itself made the car feel like new. What about diesels?
Bodz
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Just got 130 miles from £20 on our GTi all round town, its mapped to 300BHP too :whistle: