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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: xHeartcoreboyx on 21 January 2011, 16:06

Title: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: xHeartcoreboyx on 21 January 2011, 16:06
(http://www.gccorp.com.au/automotive/images/Bluefin.jpg)

Seems like an easy solution DIY, but i don't like how they are universal and have tunes for like every car under the sky..

Companies like APR/REVO only work on certain cars and are very common in the US.

Also i have heard they don't make as much torque as the competitors.

What do you guys think? anyone have experience with them?
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: Exonian on 21 January 2011, 16:14
I've read much less about Bluefin in the mk6 section so am guessing it hasn't really caught on in here yet. However the mk5 boys and girls will be very familiar with it. As with all re-mappers, some will praise it and some will knock it.
The Bluefin can have high torque just like REVO and the likes if you ask Superchips to put a high torque map on it.
However I would think the Bluefin will have exactly the same issues as REVO, APR etc when it comes to the later ECUs.
flc1962 has Bluefin on his TDI.
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: mike. on 21 January 2011, 16:26
I had it on my MK5 and ran it for 70000 miles without any issues.

The peak torque does tend to be lower than the Revo but it is a flat profile like the original just more, wheras the revo has more of a spike at the start.
Midrange grunt is superb and  acceleration in 6th is like 4th.
MPG wasn't really affected although if you push on it will be  :laugh:

Their technical support has always been excellent.

If you are going to order make sure you tell them if it is DSG or Manual as the maps are slightly different.

Highly recommended.   :grin:
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: Snoopy on 21 January 2011, 17:03
I have driven a dealer demo with the VWR map which is basically the superchip one and as said its smoother delivery than the revo one imo.
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: GolfTi on 21 January 2011, 17:19
I think the bluefin is fantastic. :smiley:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=153656.0
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: flc1962 on 21 January 2011, 18:15
I think the bluefin is fantastic. :smiley:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=153656.0

Yup had it for over a year, smooth faster and no reduced MPG, No issues at all as GolfTi one happy little bunny
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: Saint Steve on 21 January 2011, 19:39
another vote for bluefin here. Superb :cool:
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: GolfTi on 21 January 2011, 20:39
I normally revert to standard every few months for a couple of days - Just to remind me.

I've just put the bluefin back on. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: Exonian on 22 January 2011, 05:16
If you have the nice little K03 turbo then bluefin is just sublime.
If you have fitted the horrible big K04 then bluefin will snap in too much torque just when it is not needed, as the ED30 boys have found out.

All praise the K03 (and that Nissan Xbox game type car you like Nosher)  :smiley:

I'd still rather have an R, only because they sell them in that nice blue though........ :smug:
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: Snoopy on 22 January 2011, 09:20
Tell your dealer to request a special order and to contact VW to order a GTI in that colour, (VW say its not a problem) best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: dubber36 on 22 January 2011, 15:37
My Passat V6 TDI has been Superchipped for over 5 years and has been faultless.

It may not produce the bigger numbers of other tuners maps, but the extra power is very smooth and linear. It feels just like the standard car, but turned up to 13.
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 January 2011, 20:48
MPG with bluefin is actually up on a normal run. (5% ish)

MPG is way, way down on a fun run :evil:

dubber36
Your mk2 looks fantastic. :cool:
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 January 2011, 21:29
Has any bluefinned mk6 owner had any sort of problem at all??

Please report. I've not heard of any yet.

Personally I've found it to be fantastic.

There must be some downside to the cheap (ish), easy to install and convenient extra 50 - 60 bhp.

Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: Saint Steve on 22 January 2011, 21:31
None that I've heard, only if they send you the wrong coded map in the 1st place, which has been known to happen, including myself.

customer care is and has been 1st class in my experience.
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: mr gee on 23 January 2011, 05:23
I had mine BF about 20,000km ago and it has been faultless. There was an initial hesitation to change up on full throttle sprints where the revs will drop to 5000rpm before upchanging but superchips responded to my inquiry with a new map that fixed it.

Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: Hank on 23 January 2011, 09:33
How "officially supported" are these remappers? Do they affect warranty or servicing?
My Mk6 GTI is leased, a company car, so all servicing bills and warranty etc is owned by the leasing company.
I dont imagine they'd approve of me installing a remapper - but if I did, are they ever likely to find out?
Is it something I can remove before servicing?
If I do remove it, will the dealer know its been installed - is there a record somewhere of it having been remapped and then removed?

I'm sure you get the picture - any help appreciated
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: dubber36 on 23 January 2011, 12:44
I don't know if they still do, but Superchips used to give a warranty that would cover any issues related to the re-map for the remaining length of the manufacturers warranty.

Both of out daily cars have been re-mapped and the dealers were well aware of this. Both cars had warranty claims and were sorted no problem. It's still a job for the dealers after all, so they are hardly going to turn the work away.

With Bluefin, you are able to return the car to standard before it goes in to the dealers if you want. Other companies that state then can do the same aren't exacatly truthfull about that. What they give you is a de-tuned version of the re-map so that it feels like it has gone back to standard. The problem with this is if the dealer uploads revised files, it over writes your performance map and you are back to square one.

There's also the issue of insurance. Does anyone actually declare it as a mod???
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: flc1962 on 23 January 2011, 16:04
No issues as before, do they have windows 7 supported yet.

Changed the MAP once when I requested, very quick to respond.

Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: Jimmymature on 22 July 2011, 17:54
Replying to old topic i know!

Has anyone had or heard of any issues with DSG and Bluefin? 


Cheers,


Jim
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: mike. on 22 July 2011, 19:42
Just tell them you have DSG as I think it is a slightly different map.

I had it on my MK5 DSG GTI for four years with no issues  :smiley:
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: Jimmymature on 22 July 2011, 19:51
Just tell them you have DSG as I think it is a slightly different map.

I have been running it for a year now, on a DSG car, with no issues  :laugh: :evil:

I had it on my MK5 DSG GTI for four years with no issues  :smiley:

Thanks Mike, what do you think to it? Do you have Anthony else like induction, exhaust?


Cheers,


Jim
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: KennyGTI on 22 July 2011, 21:20
The TSI has an IHI turbo, not the Borg Warner k03 in the FSI. Ours it's actually a little smaller ...... but more efficient  :cool: Watch out for the the MK Fivers now :tongue:

back on topic sorry, can't comment as I went for REVO, if I were to choose again I would go for APR. Bluefin seems very tame? But it is all down to personal preference!
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: am1w on 22 July 2011, 22:48
........ I now have it on the MK6, as I had the handset transferred, and have just put it on as I was waiting for the first service to make sure everything was ok with the car.
Highly recommended.   :grin:

Good to know this Mike. Our cars have the same BW, so Bluefin will work on mine.
Soon be done ......... at last! (Happy GolfTi? :wink:)
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: AGB on 23 July 2011, 08:12
(http://www.gccorp.com.au/automotive/images/Bluefin.jpg)

Seems like an easy solution DIY, but i don't like how they are universal and have tunes for like every car under the sky..

Companies like APR/REVO only work on certain cars and are very common in the US.

Also i have heard they don't make as much torque as the competitors.

What do you guys think? anyone have experience with them?

I've got Bluefin and it's great.  Easy to install. I did mine via Windows emulation on a Mac which they say isn't supported but worked absolutely fine.

@Asker - our cars are very similar (think we were built 2 weeks apart) and you won't have a problem.
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: mike. on 23 July 2011, 11:50

Thanks Mike, what do you think to it? Do you have Anthony else like induction, exhaust?


Cheers,


Jim

On the MK5 I had no other mods just the chip.

I went for the Bluefin because it follows the stock graph profile, just a bit more everywhere.
I looked at some of the other maps which seem to give a large spike of torque and then tail off, not what I was looking for but some people like it better, just up to personal preference.

Really makes the car very quick, doesn't affect MPG, although that never concerned me as I only do about 12000 miles a year.

You do get used to it but can take it off easily to see what stock feels like.
You aren't long putting it back on  :evil:
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: Snoopy on 23 July 2011, 12:24
A few have said about build weeks.
If you know when yours was could you list it please and year of manufacture.
This would give others including myself an idea of if ours would be able to use the bluefin.
Thanks
Geoff. :smiley:
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: Jimmymature on 23 July 2011, 12:27
A few have said about build weeks.
If you know when yours was could you list it please and year of manufacture.
This would give others including myself an idea of if ours would be able to use the bluefin.
Thanks
Geoff. :smiley:

According to their website, if it doesnt work simply return it for s full refund.


Jim
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: am1w on 23 July 2011, 12:56
My car was BW8 2010, so I'll be fine.  :smiley:
From what I remember, Mike's was BW7 2010.
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: Jimmymature on 23 July 2011, 13:03
My car was BW8 2010, so I'll be fine.  :smiley:
From what I remember, Mike's was BW7 2010.

Which period is supposed to have the issue then Asker?



Jim
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: am1w on 23 July 2011, 13:10
My car was BW8 2010, so I'll be fine.  :smiley:
From what I remember, Mike's was BW7 2010.
Which period is supposed to have the issue then Asker?
Jim

BW9 (1st March 2010) onwards from what I recall.
I just missed it!
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: AGB on 23 July 2011, 21:09
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According to their website, if it doesnt work simply return it for s full refund.

Give them your engine code (from the tag in the boot) and they can usually confirm whether they've encountered it already. Once I did the ECU software copy and sent it to them, I had the map back in about 15 seconds as they'd already done it for another car with the same engine code. I had a long chat with them before doing it and yep, it was a piece of cake. Preliminary step is to check the code then commit to the purchase and then return it if you're not happy.

Talk to the Doc about a custom map as well, he offers really good value and I'm sure could deliver something akin to a Superchips map in terms of power and torque delivery or something more bespoke if that's your thing.
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: The Doc on 23 July 2011, 22:34
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Talk to the Doc about a custom map as well, he offers really good value and I'm sure could deliver something akin to a Superchips map in terms of power and torque delivery or something more bespoke if that's your thing.


Thanks for that AGB, I can do something very similar to super chips but most prefair a custom written map to make the car drive how they would like.
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: am1w on 03 August 2011, 22:19
According to Superchips, they have yet to come across a Mk6 GTI with a tamper proof ECU. Their words, not mine.
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: The Doc on 03 August 2011, 22:59
According to Superchips, they have yet to come across a Mk6 GTI with a tamper proof ECU. Their words, not mine.

Well, we all make mistakes.

Is this superchips or one of their agents? 
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: am1w on 03 August 2011, 23:18
Superchips, Head Office.
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: The Doc on 03 August 2011, 23:48
It 'll be the rest of the tuners in the world being scaremonger merchants then  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: am1w on 04 August 2011, 13:54
It 'll be the rest of the tuners in the world being scaremonger merchants then  :rolleyes:

Re-checked with Michael at Superchips Ltd, Head Office. They have yet to come across a Mk6 GTI on which Bluefin does not work and this includes May/June 2011 delivered Mk6 GTIs.
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: The Doc on 04 August 2011, 16:31
It 'll be the rest of the tuners in the world being scaremonger merchants then  :rolleyes:

As above  :wink:
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: flc1962 on 05 August 2011, 09:16
It 'll be the rest of the tuners in the world being scaremonger merchants then  :rolleyes:

Re-checked with Michael at Superchips Ltd, Head Office. They have yet to come across a Mk6 GTI on which Bluefin does not work and this includes May/June 2011 delivered Mk6 GTIs.

I'm in the process of getting mine reset and they said that the NEW ECU's have not been hacked yet for the GOLF and they could not say when/if. Lucky for me the person who wants it is also a 2009 TSI...
Title: Re: Superchips/Bluefin anyone?
Post by: mr gee on 06 August 2011, 08:36
It 'll be the rest of the tuners in the world being scaremonger merchants then  :rolleyes:

Re-checked with Michael at Superchips Ltd, Head Office. They have yet to come across a Mk6 GTI on which Bluefin does not work and this includes May/June 2011 delivered Mk6 GTIs.

Just did mine. Different sequence of picking up the software and downloading from Superchips between the GTI and 1.4 TSI. Got me worried initially but yeah...all good.