link to a nice description of the toyota and williams controversial rear diffusers
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2009/0/622.html
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2009/0/623.html
And a link to how the Ferrari diffuser looks like
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2009/0/620.html
Seems to me that the teams complaining just didn't have the imagination or creativity to come up with the ideas.
I'm reckoning that someone will lose a front wing within the first 30 yards... :laugh:
its all gay and political these days, :rolleyes:+1 BTCC + WTCC+ BSB all the way. :wink:
bring on the BTCC andWTCC - let the panel damage commence :cool:
its all gay and political these days, :rolleyes:
bring on the BTCC andWTCC - let the panel damage commence :cool:
amazing that button is favouriteFavourite for what ? Not finishing a single race ? I saw him in Vegas last July on my Honeymoon staggering out of Fix in the bellagio pissed out of his face eeeee it's a hard life being an F1 driver :laugh:
The recent query over the diffusers has been thrown out but the teams are appealing...
The commentry did seem a bit over the top! i noticed he got a few remarks rong aswell, like who was driving the car currently on the screen! Suppose because its new though, just one of those things youl get use to :undecided: I dont know if its just me, but the build up to the qualifying didnt seem to capture the atmosphere quite like ITV did, it seemed a bit flat and boring.totally agree with you. And tbh, having a break once in while was good cos it gave me a chance to make a hot chocolate or go for a pi$$ or get food, but now i feel as if i have to stay on the sofa and watch! :grin:
Who the feckin hell is the Mr Shouty, (shout as loud as I can, and say they words as fast as I can to make the race seem more exciting) commentator with Brundel?
The BBC can fack right off with that tw@t!! Looks like the audio will be turned off for me this season.
And it was all looking so good :cry: But no adverts, sheer bliss. :smug:
it was a good race today though i dont like KERS system it takes the skill away from overtaking
Lewis Hamilton has been disqualified from the Australian Grand Prix and Jarno Trulli's post-race penalty rescinded, giving the Toyota driver third place again.
The two drivers had been summoned to meet the stewards in Malaysia this morning after new evidence came to light regarding their incident behind the safety car, which saw Trulli regain third place from Hamilton under yellow having slid off the road.
Trulli had insisted that Hamilton had slowed dramatically and allowed him past, but the stewards originally opted to give the Italian a 25 second penalty for illegal overtaking, dropping him to 12th in the results and elevating Hamilton onto the podium.
That decision has now been reversed and Hamilton thrown out of the Melbourne results.
ooooooooooooo people suspended now - not good for McClaren this :grin:
dave ryan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7980593.stm
:grin:
Bored now! Stupid idea moving it for TV viewers. I'd rather get up early than watch half a race.
Nick
how funny was massa, getting all stroppy about his visor
'massa baby chill out'
:grin:
anyone see Brundle's grid walk where he had the Toyota mechanics dancing about like fools to block any pictures of the diffuser :grin: :grin:
anyone see Brundle's grid walk where he had the Toyota mechanics dancing about like fools to block any pictures of the diffuser :grin: :grin:
:afro:
yeah, he told them he could film what he wanted etc etc :cool:
you gotta love brundel, the way he walks up and down that grid like he owns it grabing all sorts of people whether there in middle of conversation or not! :laugh:
What a great day of motorsport on the telly. Ended up watching all the racing on ITV4 instead of doing what I was supposed to be doing. Sweeet!
Anyone fancy going down to the thruxton round for the sunday?
Nick
i bet they allow them. its a great story for f1 with the underdogs winningagreed, If they change things around by removing points from brawn GP and all that kerffuffle then F1 would take a seriously big turn and it would loose literally millions of viewers.
innovation is one of the great things about f1 imo. without it the best designers (newey etc) would be wasted and might as well go to a different form of motorsport
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7996698.stm
:cool:
:embarassed: :embarassed: :embarassed: oooops i take it back, he's driving like he always should have done, glad he's doing well though as he always seems the most normal out of all the driversamazing that button is favouriteFavourite for what ? Not finishing a single race ? I saw him in Vegas last July on my Honeymoon staggering out of Fix in the bellagio pissed out of his face eeeee it's a hard life being an F1 driver :laugh:
just heard on BBC news that the British GP will be going ahead at Donnington in 2010
Have Donnington resolved the subsidence issue then?
Just had a thought
GTCC
Audi's, VW's, BMW's, Mercs, porsche :laugh: :laugh: EXPENSIVE "kerching"
Just had a thought
GTCC
Audi's, VW's, BMW's, Mercs, porsche :laugh: :laugh: EXPENSIVE "kerching"
what something like this:
http://www.dtm.com/index.php?lang=en
cracking quali from button :wink: lets hope he pulls it off in the race!
Gonna have to watch on iPlayer later :cry:
Gotta pick the sister in law up @ 2:30 from Heathrow
Did massa actually finish the race? If not then why the fook should he get any points if they are too stupid not to put enough fuel in.
Rubens has piped up now threatening to leave if they have team orders. He is a good driver but the team could replace him in seconds should they need to, pretty silly threat to make that one.
Just a quick off thread jaunt but the DTM is just Audi & Mercs this year :sad:Just had a thought
GTCC
Audi's, VW's, BMW's, Mercs, porsche :laugh: :laugh: EXPENSIVE "kerching"
what something like this:
http://www.dtm.com/index.php?lang=en
Just a quick off thread jaunt but the DTM is just Audi & Mercs this year :sad:Just had a thought
GTCC
Audi's, VW's, BMW's, Mercs, porsche :laugh: :laugh: EXPENSIVE "kerching"
what something like this:
http://www.dtm.com/index.php?lang=en
I'm nursing a semi looking at that Alfa.
nick
Just a quick off thread jaunt but the DTM is just Audi & Mercs this year :sad:Just had a thought
GTCC
Audi's, VW's, BMW's, Mercs, porsche :laugh: :laugh: EXPENSIVE "kerching"
what something like this:
http://www.dtm.com/index.php?lang=en
Yeah, its an expensive series to run in, basically F1 with a roof. Went to see it at Brands last year and its worth it for the sound these things make alone. Be good if it went back to the golden years with Merc, Audi, Alfa, Opel, that was awesome racing.
:tongue: :drool: :tongue:
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1401/532214105_26eca8ffa6.jpg)
Maybe no British GP next year.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article6269173.ece
Why does he hate Silverstone so much?
Nick
and he's a c0ck.+1
and he's a c0ck.+1
and a midget
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a65/gjroe78/bernie-slavica-ecclestone.jpg)
The FIA need to get a grip on this and fast. All they have succeeded in doing over the last few years is f*ck up the regulations and make it too complicated. They blame aero for no overtaking but the F1 cars of the 80's and 90's managed it quite easily and they had downforce.
The FIA have decades of F1 data at their fingertips, if they really wanted to they could come up with the solution, but as with all things these days they have too many people trying to make a bucket load of cash and screw the consequences.
I love motorsport but I F*CKING hate the FIA.
they were all saying this weekend that the capped teams would be as much as 3 seconds a lap faster due to technical freedom, so you can either spend £100+ million and be slow or spend £40 milllion and be fast.....whats the issue?
just all accept the cap and go faster! I don't get it :huh:
All I can assume is that Ferrari and a few others are afraid of being shown up as teams that are only capable of spending their way to the front rather than having the skill to do it via design and I can't believe that's true.
Thats the problem, Ferrari, Mclaren and Bmw turned up at the first gp and were shocked by the pace of the Red Bulls, Brawns and Williams who's budget is a fraction of what they spend, I don't think they want that to happen again with budget caps there is everychance it could.
Ferrari's bigger issue is the fact they are not winning and they are so used to it they feel as long as they keep wasting money is should bring results but it has not.
quote fail ^^they were all saying this weekend that the capped teams would be as much as 3 seconds a lap faster due to technical freedom, so you can either spend £100+ million and be slow or spend £40 milllion and be fast.....whats the issue?
just all accept the cap and go faster! I don't get it :huh:
All I can assume is that Ferrari and a few others are afraid of being shown up as teams that are only capable of spending their way to the front rather than having the skill to do it via design and I can't believe that's true.
Thats the problem, Ferrari, Mclaren and Bmw turned up at the first gp and were shocked by the pace of the Red Bulls, Brawns and Williams who's budget is a fraction of what they spend, I don't think they want that to happen again with budget caps there is everychance it could.
Ferrari's bigger issue is the fact they are not winning and they are so used to it they feel as long as they keep wasting money is should bring results but it has not.
screw em then , i don't care if ferrrari go. If they can't hack it they have no right to be there anyway.
Bring on Lola , prodrive , usf1 and super aguri . :cool:
quote fail ^^they were all saying this weekend that the capped teams would be as much as 3 seconds a lap faster due to technical freedom, so you can either spend £100+ million and be slow or spend £40 milllion and be fast.....whats the issue?
just all accept the cap and go faster! I don't get it :huh:
All I can assume is that Ferrari and a few others are afraid of being shown up as teams that are only capable of spending their way to the front rather than having the skill to do it via design and I can't believe that's true.
Thats the problem, Ferrari, Mclaren and Bmw turned up at the first gp and were shocked by the pace of the Red Bulls, Brawns and Williams who's budget is a fraction of what they spend, I don't think they want that to happen again with budget caps there is everychance it could.
Ferrari's bigger issue is the fact they are not winning and they are so used to it they feel as long as they keep wasting money is should bring results but it has not.
screw em then , i don't care if ferrrari go. If they can't hack it they have no right to be there anyway.
Bring on Lola , prodrive , usf1 and super aguri . :cool:
quote fail ^^they were all saying this weekend that the capped teams would be as much as 3 seconds a lap faster due to technical freedom, so you can either spend £100+ million and be slow or spend £40 milllion and be fast.....whats the issue?
just all accept the cap and go faster! I don't get it :huh:
All I can assume is that Ferrari and a few others are afraid of being shown up as teams that are only capable of spending their way to the front rather than having the skill to do it via design and I can't believe that's true.
Thats the problem, Ferrari, Mclaren and Bmw turned up at the first gp and were shocked by the pace of the Red Bulls, Brawns and Williams who's budget is a fraction of what they spend, I don't think they want that to happen again with budget caps there is everychance it could.
Ferrari's bigger issue is the fact they are not winning and they are so used to it they feel as long as they keep wasting money is should bring results but it has not.
screw em then , i don't care if ferrrari go. If they can't hack it they have no right to be there anyway.
Bring on Lola , prodrive , usf1 and super aguri . :cool:
i'll see your quote fail and raise you a quote fail fail
everyone ready for the worst track of the season tomorow then? :evil:
It is my Fav to be honest.
the grid is limited to 13 teams/26 drivers so some won't make it.
I was reading yesterday how the teams entering under the names Lotus and Brabham, actually have nothing to do with their namesakes. Lotus were taking steps to distance themselves from the F1 entry to protect thier brand, whilst Jack Brabham and family were getting ready to take out legal action.
I will try and find a link.
Lotus: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75997
Brabbham: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76030
Full list of teams for 2010: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76045
BRING IT ON i say, get rid of the dwarf and tw@t mosley :cool:
Not directed at you mate, more the teams in F1. Everytime there's spat thay threaten to set up a rival series and it never happens.
Nick
It's never gonna happen and if it does it won't last long, all the circuits that host the F1 have said they are staying with F1 so find enough world class circuits to hold the races at ??? Then you have sponsors that are tied to F1, the FIA are looking like they don't want it to happen either and without their backing they have no chance of breaking away
Hamilton fastest in free practice!! :shocked: :shocked:
http://www.formula1.com/
There is the link to a in car shot. As much as you may love to hate him, that's pretty damn unfortunate and i am pretty sure i can say we all hope he pulls through.
As I'm sure hitting the barrier at 170 didn't help after!
As I'm sure hitting the barrier at 170 didn't help after!
120mph.
Also, the nose cones on these cars are designed to take the full force through the monocoque, Therefore, what would be a massive crash in a touring car for example, is significantly nullified in a F1 car. However, hit a F1 car side on, it's another story.
As I'm sure hitting the barrier at 170 didn't help after!
120mph.
Also, the nose cones on these cars are designed to take the full force through the monocoque, Therefore, what would be a massive crash in a touring car for example, is significantly nullified in a F1 car. However, hit a F1 car side on, it's another story.
your body isnt designed to take that though.. and lets not forget that it was a big g accident as the light came on on top of the car.. and he was hit by a piece of car before this..so regardless of it being a massive crash or not.. because the nose is designed to take it.. its still massive g on the body...
Renault banned from the next GP.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77354
Renault banned from the next GP.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77354
As I'm sure hitting the barrier at 170 didn't help after!
120mph.
Also, the nose cones on these cars are designed to take the full force through the monocoque, Therefore, what would be a massive crash in a touring car for example, is significantly nullified in a F1 car. However, hit a F1 car side on, it's another story.
your body isnt designed to take that though.. and lets not forget that it was a big g accident as the light came on on top of the car.. and he was hit by a piece of car before this..so regardless of it being a massive crash or not.. because the nose is designed to take it.. its still massive g on the body...
agreed.Hasn't Rossi always expressed interest in making the switch to F1 if he could get a drive with Ferrari? I would quite like to see that as he has a very technical mind when it comes to setting up his bikes - he is basically the 'bike version' of Schumacher.
I agree that it's likely Alonso will end up in one of the seats next year. I wouldn't mind seeing Kubica in one either.
Rossi will not make the switch, he wants to and has said he will stay in Moto gp for at least another 5 years and then call it a day.
good news:
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/7/9700.html (http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/7/9700.html)
it's good hes out now, we will see if he retires or not :sad:
Schumacher returning (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8172310.stm) :shocked: should make things abit more interesting :cool:
what a couple hours old :rolleyes:
are there enough points available for him to win the championship? :laugh:
never seen this thread i posted seoerate oopsThink you'll find Mika Hakkinen was a very successful DTM driver after his F1 days with Mercedes :wink:
i was reading if he wins people will expect it
if he does'nt people will say he has lost it
so its on his shoulders to shine
will be good to see how he copes with not driving the car until the first practice
rak is rumoured to be moving to rally next year
hak did this never heard anything from him i dont think
Valencia is a dull circuit with few overtaking opportunities so it may not be as exciting as we all hope........
....unless Schuey gets up to his old tricks. :grin:
never seen this thread i posted seoerate oops
i was reading if he wins people will expect it
if he does'nt people will say he has lost it
so its on his shoulders to shine
will be good to see how he copes with not driving the car until the first practice
rak is rumoured to be moving to rally next year
hak did this never heard anything from him i dont think
Think you'll find Mika Hakkinen was a very successful DTM driver after his F1 days with Mercedes :wink:
ahhh I was not sure if he made it or not never seen anything of him on tv
he should make a comeback i think he had some good battles with schumi
Will be interesting to see if Renaults new drive gets the same opportunity if Schumi does. Bearing in mind Algusurri (sp) never had a practice.
I heard yesterday that Williams are opposing the decision to let Schumi have one days practice. More teams have jmped on board (and rightly so) today - Red Bull and Toro Rosso I think.
I heard yesterday that Williams are opposing the decision to let Schumi have one days practice. More teams have jmped on board (and rightly so) today - Red Bull and Toro Rosso I think.
It's only because they feel he is a significant threat. (And rightly so)
Luca Badoer in to race then??
Luca Badoer in to race then??
yeah seems so. Massive boost of confidence for him eh?
"oh , the older fella who hasn't driven for 3 years can't do it? bugger , better let our regular test driver do it then ,we've no other choice." :laugh:
Luca Badoer in to race then??
yeah seems so. Massive boost of confidence for him eh?
"oh , the older fella who hasn't driven for 3 years can't do it? bugger , better let our regular test driver do it then ,we've no other choice." :laugh:
how many drivers are gonna be insulted by being called worse than a 7 times world champion :grin:
It was all make believe a Ferrari media spin from the start....
He is supposed to be 'The Stig'....
It's not often a German has a sence of Humour :laugh:
So we are off to Spar my favourite circuit. If it rains (and quite often it does) it is pure entertainment if it does not it still is. It’s fast . curvy and a real sreet circuit.
Button has to perform today , he has to get up there on the two front rows, fuel him light but get him up there.
I think Hamilton will run away with it again but button must be ahead of his team mate and the Red Bulls.
i thought of saying that but thought it might be a bit harsh haha
Giancarlo Fisichella on pole :shocked:
There is a lot of talk the now about mosley ecclestone etc "fixing" it so that the smaller teams that are threatening to pull out next year finish in the points and getting the money that goes with the points.
fisi is going to the ball surprise surprise
http://www.ptinews.com/news/263502_Force-India-agrees-to-release-Fisichella (http://www.ptinews.com/news/263502_Force-India-agrees-to-release-Fisichella)
That would be sooooo good!
I liked the Force India Technical Director after last weeks race:
"This wasn't a fluke, expect to see us right at the front of the grid from now on...."
Yeah alright mate, if you insist. :rolleyes:
Alonso is still on his way to Ferrari and Fisi will drop back to testing duties as and when Massa returns.
I find it very strange that the two teams Alonso has driven for recently, ie, McLaren and Renault have both been in the centre of bad press whilst he has been there. :undecided:
I find it very strange that the two teams Alonso has driven for recently, ie, McLaren and Renault have both been in the centre of bad press whilst he has been there. :undecided:
Either he's really unpopular or he's a cheating b'stard! :grin:
That would be sooooo good!
I liked the Force India Technical Director after last weeks race:
"This wasn't a fluke, expect to see us right at the front of the grid from now on...."
Yeah alright mate, if you insist. :rolleyes:
The car is quick, but not as quick as people are making out. there still only midfield at best.
the car was very fast at spa, and will be in monza, because all the aero on that car is all set up for low downforce, whereas the cars with alot of downforce such as the brawns struggled to get the setup.
Just like valencia, mclaren have it in the bag if they want the win.
Who was that bird with the bottle of champagne wandering round in the background in most of the interviews? :tongue:
It's not really Lotus though is it? I'm pretty sure Lotus were taking them to court for using the name!
nick
They should put an F1 engine into a Caterham 7 and race that. Then we could all have a laugh! :grin:
Are they going to be using the Lotus badge aswell or just the name?
Just the name plus the factory will based in Norfolk.
I think Williams are considering a Cossie engine for next year too.
Button looking for big pay rise or new job.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/motorsport/2637464/Jenson-Buttons-double-trouble.html
I think Williams are considering a Cossie engine for next year too.
They ran one last year aswell before replacing it with a Toyota this year, I can see Toyota making a run for it if Im honest.
I don't see Toyota sticking around much longer also what will happen with Renault, if they are banned then Red Bull need engines so still a lot to be sorted yet.
Braun?
I still don't think Renault were in on or knew about it.
I still don't think Renault were in on or knew about it.
you should be a lawyer , thats one pretty convincing argument you've got there! :grin:
Flav is , to all intents and purposes ,Renault in F1 , he's done a bunk so he doesn't have to face up to it and Renault are not denying it or putting forward any defence case.
pretty damning stuff if you ask me.
Symmonds FIA interview
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78647
You missed my point, if Flav and the team were under pressure to get Results, they then chose to do what they did etc, Renault are hardly going to tell flav and the boys to cheat are they, yes they have now owned up in a way they have no choice the book is going to be thrown at them but by holding hands up and sacking people they are trying to soften the blow.
2 year suspended ban.
Flav banned from motorsport for an unamed period.
Pat banned for 5 years.
So McLaren get a $100m fine for having some paperwork, renault walk away pretty much scot free for the biggest case of cheating to be put in front of the FIA ever.
"Oh no renault, please don't leave and take your money with you, I still love you even though you cheated on me." - Bernie. twit.
Nick
according to this
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=46923
Briatore can never have any involvment in F1 ever again.
The reason for McLarens massive penalty was the fact they pleaded not guilty.
The reason for McLarens massive penalty was the fact they pleaded not guilty.
They pleaded not guilty because they were not aware of it. It was the drivers, De La Rosa passing info to Alonso he had obtained from Ferrari. It was actually Ron Dennis that picked up the phone to the FIA after that tw@t Alonso tried bribing Dennis with feeding the FIA with this info if he (Alonso) did not get his way within the team. That is why I have lost TOTAL respect for Alonso. Shame because I was watching his progress. Now I can't wait for his downfall.
Ron Dennis did the right thing and got clobbered for it. Renault pulled a massively dangerous stunt and just got a ticking off. Something is not right and it stinks.
Unfortunately, I am a little addicted to F1 purely for the racing. If I wasn't, I would stop watching it because of sh!t like this. :sad:
The bigger picture is F1 needs Renault they cannot afford another team walking away, they still might but at the end of the day F1 needs Renault, if they were banned it would have left only Cosworth, MB and Ferrari to supply engines.
Renault have had to pay all the court costs and a contribution to the FIA safety fund. Don't reckon that would've been cheap...
Renault have had to pay all the court costs and a contribution to the FIA safety fund. Don't reckon that would've been cheap...
I just love the way that Briatore f***ed over Piquet good and proper, and Piquet had this little gem in his pocket. When the time was right, he let fly and Briatore the dodgy b'stard will not work in F1 again.
Didn't think much of Piquet as a driver, but as a revenge merchant? He's awesome! :grin: :grin: :grin:
Just there because of successful relative like ralf schumacher jaque vielnerve and damon hill etc.yeah but piquet has ruined his chances of ever coming back to F1.He is well and truly done with F1 now.
Lets be honest was he any good anyway.
Just there because of successful relative like ralf schumacher jaque vielnerve and damon hill etc.yeah but piquet has ruined his chances of ever coming back to F1.He is well and truly done with F1 now.
Lets be honest was he any good anyway.
Just there because of successful relative like ralf schumacher jaque vielnerve and damon hill etc.yeah but piquet has ruined his chances of ever coming back to F1.He is well and truly done with F1 now.
Lets be honest was he any good anyway.
Er Damon won a World Championship. You don't get those just cause of your name. Watched Damon's son Josh in Formula Ford on Sunday and he's pretty racy as well.
Nick
Damon Hill was crap schummacher had just moved to ferrari who were total crap at the time and he still nearly beat Hill, who if I remember correctly was in the top performing Williams.Just there because of successful relative like ralf schumacher jaque vielnerve and damon hill etc.yeah but piquet has ruined his chances of ever coming back to F1.He is well and truly done with F1 now.
Lets be honest was he any good anyway.
Er Damon won a World Championship. You don't get those just cause of your name. Watched Damon's son Josh in Formula Ford on Sunday and he's pretty racy as well.
Nick
This is too funny to be true, but I have just heard that Grosjean has just crashed in the exact same spot as Piquet "crashed" last year :grin:
I see the Renault crew are still displaying ING on their overalls. I wonder if ING will have something to say about that!! I hope they do!
Usually you would just cover up the advert. Not difficult to pin on some cloth or something. I doubt anything will happen though.
Hamilton did a nice job today, although his nearest race rivals just fell out of the spotlight for cockups, so he didn't really race. Brawn got it right though coming away with points. Going to make an interesting last three races. Hope Jenson does it, although I think it will be his only title.
FINALLY!!!!!!
Alonso joins Ferrari for 2010!!!!! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
FINALLY!!!!!!
Alonso joins Ferrari for 2010!!!!! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
FINALLY!!!!!!
Alonso joins Ferrari for 2010!!!!! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
so they've replaced one miserable twit for another :undecided:
just wait and see. expect Ferrari and Alonso to be world champions maybe 2010, deffo 2011 and deffo 2012 and most likely 2013 :smiley:
At least if Alonso starts winning it will miraculously appear on EVERY tv in EVERY bar here.....until he gets beat then it will be replaced by basketball...( but only if it's a game where Spain are winning )
Did anyone else hear that Kimi might be going back to Mclaren?I did, but doubt it. He has a full season of rally Finland to get through, I think kimi is gonna go to rally rather than F1.
Did anyone else hear that Kimi might be going back to Mclaren?I did, but doubt it. He has a full season of rally Finland to get through, I think kimi is gonna go to rally rather than F1.
Nope, he will go back to Mclaren he has said he wants to stay in F1.
how funny would it be if massa beat alonso next season. toys out the pram part deux!
how funny would it be if massa beat alonso next season. toys out the pram part deux!
That would be shear class! :laugh:
how funny would it be if massa beat alonso next season. toys out the pram part deux!
That would be shear class! :laugh:
+1 Alonso's a prick
HOLY COW!!!!!how funny would it be if massa beat alonso next season. toys out the pram part deux!
That would be shear class! :laugh:
+1 Alonso's a prick
and he is far better driver than hamilton :lipsrsealed:
might be a better driver, but hamilton was beating him when they were both driving the same car so what does he do, act like a spolit brat
ok :rolleyes:Well they did....
just like the Renault team favored Alonso over Piquet :lipsrsealed: :tongue:
might be a better driver, but hamilton was beating him when they were both driving the same car so what does he do, act like a spolit brat
Hamilton had far more advantage over Alonso. The team favored Lewis.
I'm really torn. Button cause he's a brit and Rubens because it would be well desrved after years of playing 2nd fiddle.
Nick
the Nerve of Say Lewis
the Nerve of Say Lewis
are you off your head? lewis cooked his chances two years ago and last year he was ridiculously lucky. don't get me wrong - hammy is one of my favourite drivers but not what you'd call cool and collected at the business end of the season.
hope rubens sticks in 10 points today, but even so - there's still a lot left for him to do.
oooh!! all go on the first lap!!
He's making Hamilton look like a pussy! Button's in the zone because he can feel the win :smiley:
He's making Hamilton look like a pussy! Button's in the zone because he can feel the win :smiley:
looks like he's just done Jenson a favour!!
Hey, not very often we have a Brit world champion that gets replaced with ANOTHER Brit world champion! :afro:
Worst world champ ever. Brawn, with their interpretation of the diffuser being fairly unfair got themselves a good lead with the fastest car. As soon as the other teams caught up Button never won a race. The car, the teams borderline cheat in the diffuser scandal got him the championship, certainly wasnt the driver when everything reached an even playing field.
nice try at fishing kev - but FAIL :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Worst world champ ever. Brawn, with their interpretation of the diffuser being fairly unfair got themselves a good lead with the fastest car. As soon as the other teams caught up Button never won a race. The car, the teams borderline cheat in the diffuser scandal got him the championship, certainly wasnt the driver when everything reached an even playing field.
Another upset Vettel fan I guess :laugh:.
Yes Brawn started the season with the diffuser but lets not forgot 2 other teams did as well.
i think he proved hes a great champion in that race. and if you count his race wins he won more than when hamilton won last year. teams didnt cheat either its interpretation of regulations = very clever people.
anyway what are you doing out the mk5.5 section? :grin:
nice try at fishing kev - but FAIL :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
nice try at fishing kev - but FAIL :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
I'm not, but you cant deny I have some fairly valid points.
Toyota and Williams both had double diffusers from the start of the season...
Toyota and Williams both had double diffusers from the start of the season...
bingo. 3 teams with clever designers, after all f1 should be about innovation
deffo a fail kev, close the door on ya way out :wink:
deffo a fail kev, close the door on ya way out :wink:
I'm sure I've had this discussion before. Where is this 'door' ?
deffo a fail kev, close the door on ya way out :wink:
I'm sure I've had this discussion before. Where is this 'door' ?
here it is.... :grin: :grin: http://www.golfgtiforum.c0.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=23997;sa=deleteAccount (http://www.golfgtiforum.c0.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=23997;sa=deleteAccount)
deffo a fail kev, close the door on ya way out :wink:
I'm sure I've had this discussion before. Where is this 'door' ?
here it is.... :grin: :grin: http://www.golfgtiforum.c0.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=23997;sa=deleteAccount (http://www.golfgtiforum.c0.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=23997;sa=deleteAccount)
Well done, you do realise that some people may click that. :rolleyes:
deffo a fail kev, close the door on ya way out :wink:
I'm sure I've had this discussion before. Where is this 'door' ?
here it is.... :grin: :grin: http://www.golfgtiforum.c0.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=23997;sa=deleteAccount (http://www.golfgtiforum.c0.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=23997;sa=deleteAccount)
Well done, you do realise that some people may click that. :rolleyes:
do you REALLY think I am that stupid ffs?! :rolleyes:
1. I used YOUR profile ID in the link
2. I replaced the 'o' in .co.uk for a '0'
deffo a fail kev, close the door on ya way out :wink:
I'm sure I've had this discussion before. Where is this 'door' ?
here it is.... :grin: :grin: http://www.golfgtiforum.c0.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=23997;sa=deleteAccount (http://www.golfgtiforum.c0.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=23997;sa=deleteAccount)
Well done, you do realise that some people may click that. :rolleyes:
do you REALLY think I am that stupid ffs?! :rolleyes:
1. I used YOUR profile ID in the link
2. I replace the 'o' in .co.uk for a '0'
deffo a fail kev, close the door on ya way out :wink:
I'm sure I've had this discussion before. Where is this 'door' ?
here it is.... :grin: :grin: http://www.golfgtiforum.c0.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=23997;sa=deleteAccount (http://www.golfgtiforum.c0.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=23997;sa=deleteAccount)
Well done, you do realise that some people may click that. :rolleyes:
do you REALLY think I am that stupid ffs?! :rolleyes:
1. I used YOUR profile ID in the link
2. I replace the 'o' in .co.uk for a '0'
Ok cool, never noticed that.
I'm sure I could google a few anger management classes that might help you ?
deffo a fail kev, close the door on ya way out :wink:
I'm sure I've had this discussion before. Where is this 'door' ?
here it is.... :grin: :grin: http://www.golfgtiforum.c0.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=23997;sa=deleteAccount (http://www.golfgtiforum.c0.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=23997;sa=deleteAccount)
Well done, you do realise that some people may click that. :rolleyes:
do you REALLY think I am that stupid ffs?! :rolleyes:
1. I used YOUR profile ID in the link
2. I replace the 'o' in .co.uk for a '0'
Ok cool, never noticed that.
I'm sure I could google a few anger management classes that might help you ?
just because you failed to notice my forethought doesn't mean that I am angry? :rolleyes:
If I was angry I would just be handing out random insults and calling people a w@nker at every available opportunity... perhaps if you know of anyone that does that on the forum you could give them the link to your google findings :wink:
Sorry picked you up wrong again, I thought ffs had a swear word in there. If you were not angry and were still swearing you dont need to look very far to find a simlar person. :wink:
nice try at fishing kev - but FAIL :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
:grin: :grin: don't feed the troll!
Sorry picked you up wrong again, I thought ffs had a swear word in there. If you were not angry and were still swearing you dont need to look very far to find a simlar person. :wink:
one is an exclamation, the other is an insult
anyway... cba to argue the toss with you anymore... send the link or whatever you want to do and be done with it... this is getting silly.
Jenson and Brawn still rock and I am very pleased for them.
Vettel not happy: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79616
Vettel not happy: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79616
toys and pram spring to mind :grin: :grin:
Vettel not happy: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79616
toys and pram spring to mind :grin: :grin:
Whats he going to be like if Massa beats him in a race :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Just wait till Alfonso start winning at Ferrari. I'll be dancing around the forum in circles :laugh:
Whats he going to be like if Massa beats him in a race :lipsrsealed: :grin:
we'll never know!
Just wait till Alfonso start whinging at Ferrari. I'll be dancing around the forum in circles :laugh:
Just wait till Alfonso start whinging at Ferrari. I'll be dancing around the forum in circles :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Just wait till Alfonso start whinging at Ferrari. I'll be dancing around the forum in circles :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
quote edit of the year :afro:
Next season more than ever it will be down to pit stops ...interesting
Alonso is a f**king legend. With Hammy and Kimi, there are the three current best drivers on the grid.
Alonso is a f**king legend. With Hammy and Kimi, there are the three current best drivers on the grid.
kimi will leave f1 and go to rallying rather than become team mate of some kid who just got lucky once :grin:
trestin article http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8312844.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8312844.stm)
i dont understand why everyone is hating on hamilton.. are people not watching the same races as i watch...
theres a lot of jealousy in this thread :grin:
theres a lot of jealousy in this thread :grin:
yeah I'd love to be driving an F1 car - beats my 8-5 job anyday of the week :laugh: :laugh:
nice try at fishing kev - but FAIL :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
I'm not, but you cant deny I have some fairly valid points.
theres a lot of jealousy in this thread :grin:
yeah I'd love to be driving an F1 car - beats my 8-5 job anyday of the week :laugh: :laugh:
people moaning about all these sh!t drivers when in reality if you had a fraction of ralph schumachers driving skills you would be an amazing driver :laugh:
Id win an F1 race EASY.
Id win an F1 race EASY.
yeah right, on the bike in ur signature you definitely will :smug:
people moaning about all these sh!t drivers when in reality if you had a fraction of ralph schumachers driving skills you would be an amazing driver :laugh:
i think it'll be a great shame if there isn't a British GP next year, especially as we have had two British Champions in the last two years and it's been on the calendar since 1947
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8300268.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8300268.stm)
i think it'll be a great shame if there isn't a British GP next year, especially as we have had two British Champions in the last two years and it's been on the calendar since 1947
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8300268.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8300268.stm)
I agree, but if the race track in question can't get their act together, then they really don't deserve to host F1. I just wish more tracks put their names in the hat. Brands Hatch for a kick off along with Silverstone again and even Rockingham, who have an inside track along with the oval. (Don't know how long it is though. Never been there.)
In other news Todt got the FIA presidency. Rubbish.
In other news Todt got the FIA presidency. Rubbish.
Yeah, was thinking the same. Ex Ferarri guy is head of FIA?, I hope there's no bias/blind eyes from Ferarri problems or dubious manouvers next season. :undecided:
F1 cornering speeds are ridiculous. Other than that, I dont really like watching it, pretty boring.
Why the fook is he paid so much? He is a sh!t driver. And I don't understand why Hamilton is paid more than Alonso....Alonso has won double the world championships of Hamilton!
Why the fook is he paid so much? He is a sh!t driver. And I don't understand why Hamilton is paid more than Alonso....Alonso has won double the world championships of Hamilton!
you really think raikkonen is a sh!t driver? i agree his wage is stupid though
you really think raikkonen is a sh!t driver? i agree his wage is stupid though
All he does is blow up engines or gearboxes....Some races he is untouchable and dominant (only when he has a good car) but most of the races and this whole past season he has been inconsistent and unreliable.
You can't compare a bad ferrari with a bad renault....you really think raikkonen is a sh!t driver? i agree his wage is stupid though
All he does is blow up engines or gearboxes....Some races he is untouchable and dominant (only when he has a good car) but most of the races and this whole past season he has been inconsistent and unreliable.
how come he's scored nearly double the points of Alonso then if he's sh!t :huh:
You can't compare a bad ferrari with a bad renault....you really think raikkonen is a sh!t driver? i agree his wage is stupid though
All he does is blow up engines or gearboxes....Some races he is untouchable and dominant (only when he has a good car) but most of the races and this whole past season he has been inconsistent and unreliable.
how come he's scored nearly double the points of Alonso then if he's sh!t :huh:
Kimi has been inconsistent. First half of the season he was nowhere. Alonso had trouble getting into the points throughout the whole season, hence his low points count.
he is not worth his $45 million basic wage bill that for sure!!
Full wages list:
1. Kimi Raikkonen $45m
" so where you from then ?" " er..Galicia " " who d'you support ? " " Barca "Funny you say that....I'm from galicia and have always supported Barca :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :tongue:
lol @ Button, "You broke early and I thought f**k I should have waited" haha live on BBC, brilliant :D :D
Button was a bit untidy on a few corners so couldn't take full advantage on those last couple of laps.
Hmmm Sundays, playForza 3COD MW2!!!!!! :grin:
The last few laps were quality, but overall, the race was extremely boring.
Lucky win for Vettel plus what a crap race and track.
was it just me that wanted a crash in the pit lane then :huh: :tongue:
was it just me that wanted a crash in the pit lane then :huh: :tongue:
no :grin:
Toyota are out and with Bridgestone leaving a few days ago that's all of the Jap interests in F1 gone. Not a good omen that.
Nick
Toyota are out and with Bridgestone leaving a few days ago that's all of the Jap interests in F1 gone. Not a good omen that.
Nick
who is going to replace Bridgestone?? :undecided:
lol, wet race with ditches and nankangs :laugh: oh boy
so which team is gonna have toyotas spot? please let it be prodrive :lipsrsealed:
id like to see rosberg with hamilton at mclaren, but it looks like he is going to braun
anyone see button get beaten by schumi at the race of champions :laugh: :lipsrsealed:
I see Renault is also holding a meeting to discuss its future plans today, could be interesting if they do quit as well
The car in front never was a Toyota
Toyota auditors, preparing for the closure of the F1 team, have found a huge, almost completely empty room at the squad’s Cologne HQ.
There was puzzlement as to what it was for, before they realised it was the trophy cabinet.
(http://images.itv-f1.com/ImageLibrary/55893_2.jpg)
Bernie has also told Silverstone they have 48hrs to sign up or it's all off.
I fear so. Apparently last weekend when asked what Silverstone needed to do to get the GP he replied "Go out and buy a pen". Nice!
I fear so. Apparently last weekend when asked what Silverstone needed to do to get the GP he replied "Go out and buy a pen". Nice!
i can actually see it from his point of view, even though his is diplomatically inept and a cantankerous old fcuk... :undecided:
Renault are testing a guy called Bertrand Baguette next month. :grin:
Renault are testing a guy called Bertrand Baguette next month. :grin:
:grin:
he butter be good, lets hope he doesn't ham things up or he could end up in a right pickle
cheesy enough for you?
"he really kneads to prove himself this season, he could be the best thing since sliced bread"
how good would it be if mclaren went back to the red and white livery :cool:
It's got all the hallmarks of another classic Button Contract Cock Up. MGP are goign to be the ones to beat next year and he should be sat in one not a McLaren playing 2nd fiddle to Lewis.
I'm gutted that Brawn is now the factory Merc team. It was such a British team before but now it's already being touted as full on return of a factory Merc team like in the 50's. It seems the Merc publicity machine is glossing over the fact that the cars are built in Brackly UK and the Engines by Ilmore, erm also in the UK!!!
nick
It's got all the hallmarks of another classic Button Contract Cock Up. MGP are goign to be the ones to beat next year and he should be sat in one not a McLaren playing 2nd fiddle to Lewis.
I'm gutted that Brawn is now the factory Merc team. It was such a British team before but now it's already being touted as full on return of a factory Merc team like in the 50's. It seems the Merc publicity machine is glossing over the fact that the cars are built in Brackly UK and the Engines by Ilmore, erm also in the UK!!!
nick
Just in case anyone else couldn't be bothered to look... :grin:
Button and Lewis in the same car. It's official.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8363892.stm
nick
Raikkonen not in F1 next season...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8365967.stm
Brawn in management buy out from Honda.
Nick
No Donington then next year http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8366581.stm
All bets would be off on next years WDC if Schuey was sat in a Brawn run car.
Nick
I really can't see Ferrari releasing Schumi from thier contract to race for Merc......I cant stand the fella, but it would be very interesting to see him and Ross back together again.
Personally, I can't see it happening.
and paying a driver 15 million to take a year off is :lipsrsealed:
what do you guys think of button move to mclaren....IMO he won't survive in hamilton shadow....and we gonna see another alonso hamilton thing....most probably button will be looking for another team next year :grin:
Hmmmm rumour mill's going well. Is it likely? I don't think so... :rolleyes:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8368107.stm
Hmmmm rumour mill's going well. Is it likely? I don't think so... :rolleyes:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8368107.stm
breaking news... Bounce in non-respost news shock! :laugh:
you feeling alright mate? :grin:
What about Kimi joining mercedes gp, I think mercedes can easily afford to pay his wages anyway. Ross Brawn was the man behind ferrari glorious days and the man who made button 2009 world champion. Kimi will know he can win another drivers title with brawn :lipsrsealed:
click for more info (http://msnsport.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_5704623,00.html)
What about Kimi joining mercedes gp, I think mercedes can easily afford to pay his wages anyway. Ross Brawn was the man behind ferrari glorious days and the man who made button 2009 world champion. Kimi will know he can win another drivers title with brawn :lipsrsealed:
click for more info (http://msnsport.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_5704623,00.html)
It makes no sense that they wouldn't want to give Jensen a decent salary yet be happy Kimi his (imo unjustified) millions.
so its looks like the poison dwarf and the F1 commission are deciding the fate of the British GP on December 9th
[I would have inserted a useful link here but certain individuals think I have a fascination with the BBC so you can sod off and find it yourselves - either that or wait for bouncy to trundle along later :tongue:]
Hamilton is the main driver but Button will do a good job and Mclaren always let the 2 drivers race on equal terms hence why Alonso got the hump.
Hamilton is the main driver but Button will do a good job and Mclaren always let the 2 drivers race on equal terms hence why Alonso got the hump.
You really think McLaren dealth with Hamilton and Heiki on equal terms?? :shocked:
Yes buts lets be fair Heiki was crap.
isn't it £250,000 the rent it for the day?
but they would have the whole track for a few days wouldn't they..isn't it £250,000 the rent it for the day?
I'm not sure it's that much. To rent the south circuit for a week day is about £15K.
Nick
so its looks like the poison dwarf and the F1 commission are deciding the fate of the British GP on December 9th
[I would have inserted a useful link here but certain individuals think I have a fascination with the BBC so you can sod off and find it yourselves - either that or wait for bouncy to trundle along later :tongue:]
so its looks like the poison dwarf and the F1 commission are deciding the fate of the British GP on December 9th
[I would have inserted a useful link here but certain individuals think I have a fascination with the BBC so you can sod off and find it yourselves - either that or wait for bouncy to trundle along later :tongue:]
What's happening Guy?! :tongue:
Raikkonen joins WRC with Citroen
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80431
Silverstone back in the game!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article6946697.ece
nick
Silverstone back in the game!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article6946697.ece
nick
eesh... while he is a good driver I don't want to see him back racing... played too dirty imo
Spot on, I still cannot see why he wants to come back, not like he needs the money.
eesh... while he is a good driver I don't want to see him back racing... played too dirty imo
eesh... while he is a good driver I don't want to see him back racing... played too dirty imo
you don't win 7 drivers titles by playing dirty my friend
Nope but lets be honest his team mates were never allowed to race him and were even asked to let him through for the win many times.
Whether you like him or not it will be interesting to see if the oldest man on the grid can still cut it. I think experience will be a telling part as he and Rubens will be the only ones to know what an F1 car is like fully loaded with fuel.
I Cannot wait for the new season to get under way. By far this will be the most competitive season I've ever witnessed! Alonso finally goes to Ferrari, mclaren have an all English team with the 2 latest world champions and schumacher is back to show who's the boss. YIPPIIIIIIIII!!!!!
I Cannot wait for the new season to get under way. By far this will be the most competitive season I've ever witnessed! Alonso finally goes to Ferrari, mclaren have an all English team with the 2 latest world champions and schumacher is back to show who's the boss. YIPPIIIIIIIII!!!!!
Sorry but I don't think Schumacher will be showing them who is boss, I think he will struggle at start.
so the question on everybodys lips....
Who do you think will be champion next year???????
LEWIS HAMILTON!!!!!!
Vettle as long as the engine doesn't give them too many problemsthis year, i think he will be there.
1. Vettel
2. Button <----------- NO!
3. Hamilton
4. Schumacher.
My top 4 prediction!!
Vettle as long as the engine doesn't give them too many problemsthis year, i think he will be there.
1. Vettel
2. Button
3. Hamilton
4. Schumacher.
My top 4 prediction!!
Button is alot smoother and more conservative on his tyres which will count for a lot next season.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8451825.stm
Lewis could do better anyway ha ha! :grin:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8451825.stm
Lewis could do better anyway ha ha! :grin:
Doesn't really say much we haven't heard before, but of interest I think:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80826
Doesn't really say much we haven't heard before, but of interest I think:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80826
Yeah, was reading this somewhere yesterday. I reckon they'll choose the Audi name, maybe. :undecided:
something does need to be done about overtaking though. Can't the rear wing be worked on further to increase drag on the car in front but aid the car behind? All you get is cars stuck 1.5secs behind in 'dirty air' and unable to do anything about it.
something does need to be done about overtaking though. Can't the rear wing be worked on further to increase drag on the car in front but aid the car behind? All you get is cars stuck 1.5secs behind in 'dirty air' and unable to do anything about it.
Well the whole point of the 2009 season having new aero packages was to aid that but they didn't really help...Yes they got to the back of the opponents faster but once they were behind as you say at about a second and a half or so they just couldn't move. Now they will be banning wheel spinners and the car wills be wider so hopefully see some more action.something does need to be done about overtaking though. Can't the rear wing be worked on further to increase drag on the car in front but aid the car behind? All you get is cars stuck 1.5secs behind in 'dirty air' and unable to do anything about it.
Its SOO frustrating isn't it. First thing that comes to mind was Button at the last race, he was MILES faster than Webber and closed him right down, but then got stuck behind him and just couldn't get past him.
Its a simple solution to this problem...... NOS!!!!!
Yeah but it ws cr4p, nos and turbos, should make for some fun!!
something does need to be done about overtaking though. Can't the rear wing be worked on further to increase drag on the car in front but aid the car behind? All you get is cars stuck 1.5secs behind in 'dirty air' and unable to do anything about it.
something does need to be done about overtaking though. Can't the rear wing be worked on further to increase drag on the car in front but aid the car behind? All you get is cars stuck 1.5secs behind in 'dirty air' and unable to do anything about it.
eccelstone wants to introduce short cuts where drivers can use a short cut for overtaking 5 times a race
Did you see the rule stating that the livery can't change during the season any more?
They should have gone down the chrome/shiny silver route however maybe they were concerned that they will look too much like Mclaren with the shiny silver paintwork.
I think that Mclaren will change their livery in 2011 and Mercedes will go all shiny silver for 2011.
Don't McLaren loose the merc sponsership next year anyway and are considering cosworth or even their own engines.
Don't McLaren loose the merc sponsership next year anyway and are considering cosworth or even their own engines.
McLaren have a deal to use Mercedes engines until 2015. In all likelihood they would of developed their own unit by then in line with their new road car business that should have two models in it by then.
am i the only one who thinks there is an ok level of overtaking in f1? You say get it like the old days, but there wasn't much overtaking then either. It feels like there was because of all the videos on youtube showing nothing but the overtakes!
the nose and the vertical bits at the front of the sidepods are distinctively mclaren on the new merc :shocked:
the nose and the vertical bits at the front of the sidepods are distinctively mclaren on the new merc :shocked:
thats the old brawn car with the new signage on it according to the bbc sport website
See they've basically ripped off the developments of the McLaren and Red Bull, nice one Ferrari. :grin:
Longer wheel base is going to make for some interesting changes to the handling.
nick
See they've basically ripped off the developments of the McLaren and Red Bull, nice one Ferrari. :grin:
it might be slightly more involved than that :rolleyes:
New Williams
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81104
New Williams
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81104
wow the renault looks so friggin good!
wow the renault looks so friggin good!
buzzin and hornets era jordan anyone?
Have there been any pics of the Lotus yet?
Nick
wow the renault looks so friggin good!
buzzin and hornets era jordan anyone?
does anyone know what the deal is with these dorsal fins on the engine cover?
If Mclarens Test driver can be 9 tenghts off micheal schumacer id love to see what hamilton could do!Remember that De La Rosa knows the Spanish tracks like the back of his hand.
And i definately think Alonso could top massa
does anyone know what the deal is with these dorsal fins on the engine cover?
Pretty sure they give more downforce in the corners, don't ask me how though, you need a :nerd: for that
If Mclarens Test driver can be 9 tenghts off micheal schumacer id love to see what hamilton could do!Remember that De La Rosa knows the Spanish tracks like the back of his hand.
And i definately think Alonso could top massa
i think he was referring to de la rosa's time being second quickest as a separate subject to Parfett's time. I think it's clear the de la rosa now drives for sauber
and partly a logical development of the high-downforce wing we ran last year at races like Monaco, which feeds air more efficiently to the rear wing upper element.
and partly a logical development of the high-downforce wing we ran last year at races like Monaco, which feeds air more efficiently to the rear wing upper element.
via flow separation to create a smoother / quicker path for the air to pass over the rear wing i would have thought?
you better be...i think he was referring to de la rosa's time being second quickest as a separate subject to Parfett's time. I think it's clear the de la rosa now drives for sauber
Oops my bad. Sorry Kharebear :rolleyes: :grin:
and partly a logical development of the high-downforce wing we ran last year at races like Monaco, which feeds air more efficiently to the rear wing upper element.
via flow separation to create a smoother / quicker path for the air to pass over the rear wing i would have thought?
I don't remember anyone posting up about pre season testing or the paint schemes last year.
Nick
Now this is a good looking car
(http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/2284ddd3-470x313.jpg)
f1 team based in dinnington? like next to pontenland? EH?!
Now this is a good looking car
(http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/2284ddd3-470x313.jpg)
agreed. loving the swirls on the front wing and engine cover. i still can't get over an f1 team being based in dinnington :laugh:
Alonso, only driver to break 1m 12 sec barrier :smug:
Alonso, only driver to break 1m 12 sec barrier :smug:
urm not according to the list at the top of the page........
Try his team mate :tongue:
Alonso, only driver to break 1m 12 sec barrier :smug:
urm not according to the list at the top of the page........
Try his team mate :tongue:
that list is no longer valid mate
Between them, Felipe Massa and Fernando Alonso controlled the top of the timesheets throughout the three-day test at the Spanish track. They were the only men to break through the 1m 12s barrier, with local hero Alonso clocking a best time of 1m 11.470s and Massa a quickest run of 1m 11.722s. Domenicali, however, is hesitant to celebrate the F10’s domination just yet.
read rest of story here
(http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2010/2/10404.html)
Alonso, only driver to break 1m 12 sec barrier :smug:
an by the same token hitler was quite good at his job tooFPMSL :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
f1 team based in dinnington? like next to pontenland? EH?!
Now this is a good looking car
(http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/2284ddd3-470x313.jpg)
agreed. loving the swirls on the front wing and engine cover. i still can't get over an f1 team being based in dinnington :laugh:
TBH that car looks miles behind the competition aero wise :sad:
nick
I think it will be very quick as its been in the making for 8years!
The Lotus of old had quite an advantage in their time. His name was Colin Chapman.
The Lotus of old had quite an advantage in their time. His name was Colin Chapman.
A legend and a crook. A proper brit :grin:
nick
The Lotus of old had quite an advantage in their time. His name was Colin Chapman.
A legend and a crook. A proper brit :grin:
nick
The Lotus of old had quite an advantage in their time. His name was Colin Chapman.
A legend and a crook. A proper brit :grin:
nick
whats the crook story?
live test commentary btw
http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/175
from the Telegraph
Perhaps Chapman's darkest hour came in 1978, when Lotus linked up with the American tycoon John Z DeLorean to develop a stainless steel sports car, to be built in a factory funded by the British government. What the government did not know, but what Chapman certainly did, was that the project was a scam.
Around £10 million went missing. Chapman died before the full deceit unravelled but at the subsequent trial of Fred Bushell, the Lotus accountant, the judge insisted that had Chapman himself been in the dock he would have received a sentence "of at least 10 years".
:shocked:
he sounds a bit like Button's old man :grin:
New team FAIL!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8510697.stm
Adrian Newey must be feeling rather smug lol. He told Virgin that it was not advisable to design the car completely on computer, but they went ahead and didn't use a wind tunnel anyway!
Yeah probably - part of Bernie and Max's cost cutting scheme more than likely :rolleyes:
Plus it didn't stop anything falling off the Brawn last year, and we know how that ended (well Massa does anyway).
suprise supriseyou know its more and more i wish i didnt live here. this place sucks big donkey dyck :cry: :cry:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81819
Well I hope that means that Stefan GP get given their chance as they appear almost ready to go :smiley:
Well I hope that means that Stefan GP get given their chance as they appear almost ready to go :smiley:
Shows how much I know :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8544246.stm
When did scrutineers stop being fat old men :tongue:
(http://cdn.gallery.autosport.com/picture_free.php/dir/2010bah2/image/su_10brn1047-2)
I'm gonna say Alonso will win it. Button has a good chance as he is one of the smoothest drivers out there so he will take good car of his tyres.
He was probably trying to have a good look at that air thingy they have on their car.
He was probably trying to have a good look at that air thingy they have on their car.
Which seems to do absolutely....
fcuk all
God no, please anyone other than Teflonso :angry:
Well that was dull :(
if the problem still lies in aerodynamics why did they make the front tyres narrower? surely the answer is more mechanical grip and less aero?
I can't see things getting much better until the huge changes in 2013.
was a bit disapointed with it but at the end of the day it wasnt the best circuit, the teams have alot to know and testing was very unprdictable :undecided:yeah but he's whingeing already as he didn't win... :wink: :grin:
Should definitely pick up in a few races, well as soon as schumacher get used to the car and back to his old self :evil:
Sounds like a great race.. Gutted I was commuting and had to miss it :(
Hamilton isn't acting like a spoilt child.. if i was him i would be fuming too.. pushing for 3rd and the team call you in for tyres.. make up 1.5sec a lap on the ferraris to get on the back on them, pull a move and then webber takes you out..
I agree Jenson had a good race, but don't take away from what Lewis did today..
Can someone please tell me what the red led lights at the back of the car are for ? and why do some cars have them and some don`t :undecided:
I agree Jenson had a good race, but don't take away from what Lewis did today..
Can someone please tell me what the red led lights at the back of the car are for ? and why do some cars have them and some don`t :undecided:
They are for high vis (like a foglight) when it's raining. Some people obviously didn't turn them off!! :smiley:
I agree Jenson had a good race, but don't take away from what Lewis did today..
what did lewis do ? :huh: :undecided:
HE allowed the team to make a CALL
a CALL which Jenson said himself, he MADE it to change tyres
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Lewis got mugged by his team mate, in qualifiying, and the race
and the aussie polis for his loan car.
and now the tears start, :cry:
Well done JB. :afro:
Spot on :afro:
bollucks.. absolute bollucks.. the call jenson made to go to slicks was totally different to hamilton being told to pit... end of the day as a driver you rely on the team to be your eyes and ears on the rest of the track.. yes..button took the gamble and it paid off.. not disputing that.. but hamilton was relying on the knowledge of the team and they f**ked him over...
hamilton is a better driver than button all day long...
if you listen to Martin Whitmarsh as Jenson is being Weighed , his word were "good call on the tyres"
that was a driver tellin the team how he "felt" about the car
if the tyres felt good for Hamilton maybe he should have told the team he didnt need to pit
suppose thats the differance - Button called his own race instead of relying on the team to make that decision
Button for me all day long
if you listen to Martin Whitmarsh as Jenson is being Weighed , his word were "good call on the tyres"
that was a driver tellin the team how he "felt" about the car
if the tyres felt good for Hamilton maybe he should have told the team he didnt need to pit
suppose thats the differance - Button called his own race instead of relying on the team to make that decision
Button for me all day long
Again... 2 different calls.. they are lifetimes apart in the scenarios.. can people not see that...
There was always going to be a point where they change from ints to slicks.. button choose to go early because he thought it was dry enough.. ok fair enough good call.. but Hamilton wasn't in discussions with Mclaren about pitting.. he was pushing hard, on the back of Kubica and then the team tells you to pit.. obviously even if you think your ok at that moment (20 odd laps to go) you will think the team have pulled you in because they have intel that you dont actually have on the race track...
Hamilton is a better driver all day long
Hamilton is a very good driver but yesterday he acted a bit spoilt plus his mind seemed to be elsewhere.
There was no reason at all to call Lewis in for new tyres, when they pulled him in he was flying, setting best laps etc, if the only reason they pulled him was so they could gather data so they know whether or not Jenson will need to stop, then that is crap as everyone knows Jenson is very easy on his tyres during a race. I think Lewis was done over by his team for no reason and can see why he was a bit Pi55ed off.
Lewis was not done over by his team, he has been with Mclaren since he was 14 they are or should favor him over Button.
He has always been harder on his tyres so if they were worried they were spot on to bring him in.
Also no getting away from the fact slagging the team off over the radio is not really a good move.
was a great race!
Well done JB
So gutted for Hamilton, wasnt fair with the 2 stops and webber deserves some sort of punishment/penelty for that!
:angry:
hamilton was definetely the man of the day in my eyes, he fought so hard to continually climb through the feild, imo best driver out there but close to Vettle and Alonso
was a great race!
Well done JB
So gutted for Hamilton, wasnt fair with the 2 stops and webber deserves some sort of punishment/penelty for that!
:angry:
hamilton was definetely the man of the day in my eyes, he fought so hard to continually climb through the feild, imo best driver out there but close to Vettle and Alonso
11 to 8th on the first lap, then up to 4th,
alonso, 2nd last to 4th, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
was a great race!
Well done JB
So gutted for Hamilton, wasnt fair with the 2 stops and webber deserves some sort of punishment/penelty for that!
:angry:
hamilton was definetely the man of the day in my eyes, he fought so hard to continually climb through the feild, imo best driver out there but close to Vettle and Alonso
11 to 8th on the first lap, then up to 4th,
alonso, 2nd last to 4th, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
was a great race!
Well done JB
So gutted for Hamilton, wasnt fair with the 2 stops and webber deserves some sort of punishment/penelty for that!
:angry:
hamilton was definetely the man of the day in my eyes, he fought so hard to continually climb through the feild, imo best driver out there but close to Vettle and Alonso
11 to 8th on the first lap, then up to 4th,
alonso, 2nd last to 4th, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
BUT Alonso got stuck behind Massa the whole race as soon as he caught him! It would have been his race if he continued his pace through the whole 58 laps, not just 28-29
Roll on the race!!
Button struggles when he comes from the back (his done it once for his championship drive last year, but that was a very dry race, and in a very competitive car that only the red bulls could match)
uh oh, red bulls are reliable. thats the season decidedwait till ferrari sort out their problems. Once Alonso gets ahead of Massa he will be unstopabble. Even with gearbox problems he was catching the train by 2 seconds per lap.
uh oh, red bulls are reliable. thats the season decidedwait till ferrari sort out their problems. Once Alonso gets ahead of Massa he will be unstopabble. Even with gearbox problems he was catching the train by 2 seconds per lap.
Such a shame to have seen Alonso's engine go right at the end - couldn't have happened to a nice bloke :grin: :grin:
Yeah, caught it this morning on the news. The whole front just exploded on him ! :shocked:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwjjd2Boiws
Alonso also had ANOTHER engine failure :D :Dnot having much luck is he? :undecided:
Alonso also had ANOTHER engine failure :D :Dnot having much luck is he? :undecided:
Alonso also had ANOTHER engine failure :D :Dnot having much luck is he? :undecided:
Alonso also had ANOTHER engine failure :D :Dnot having much luck is he? :undecided:
I cant stand him but at the back of my mind I feel I have to as Im half spanish :undecided:
Alonso also had ANOTHER engine failure :D :Dnot having much luck is he? :undecided:
I cant stand him but at the back of my mind I feel I have to as Im half spanish :undecided:
+ he's the best driver in the field overall.
Alonso also had ANOTHER engine failure :D :Dnot having much luck is he? :undecided:
I cant stand him but at the back of my mind I feel I have to as Im half spanish :undecided:
+ he's the best driver in the field overall.
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Top 5 yeah, but best? Nah.
Alonso also had ANOTHER engine failure :D :Dnot having much luck is he? :undecided:
I cant stand him but at the back of my mind I feel I have to as Im half spanish :undecided:
+ he's the best dummy spitter in the field overall.
Alonso also had ANOTHER engine failure :D :Dnot having much luck is he? :undecided:
I cant stand him but at the back of my mind I feel I have to as Im half spanish :undecided:
+ he's the best dummy spitter in the field overall.
Fixed that for you :afro:
Mclaren 1-2?????
what an epic season so far!!!!!
Scumacher is turning into a expensive flop.Great result and at least the finger pointing plonker was only 6th, red bull's do not seem to work in the wet.
:angry:
Can't believe I've not been able to watch any of the races this year so far :sad:
Scumacher is turning into a expensive flop.
Also the "Brawn" car will be a bit behind the others at the start of the season because they were working on the old car all the way till the end of last season and not developing this seasons car, that said Red Bull shouldn't be where they are now.
So were Mclaren, Red Bull and Ferrari and they seem to be doing a lot better than Merc.
Scumacher is turning into a expensive flop.
Its so strange people expect him to come back after 3 years and start winning races from very first race :cool:
Still long season left,only because he's not quick now doesn't mean he won't be
http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/83155 :undecided:
What next insuring his ears!! :laugh:
Needs to stop worrying about his thumbs and more about his engines that keep popping :lipsrsealed:
Needs to stop worrying about his thumbs and more about his engines that keep popping :lipsrsealed:
problem with pnumatic valves apparently and loosing too much air.
To fix it Ferrari apparently need to alter the design of the engine and as such need permission from FIA
However some rumors have emerged that they are using it as an excuse to try and get there engine on a parr with merc.
Going to miss qualifying this morning because Im going Bluewater with women to do shopping for summer clothes.
Im such a homo :embarassed:
haha ! :D
There will be no radio of any sort on the way back, straight on the iPlayer.
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: shouldnt have warned him rhyso - he will turn his phone off now :rolleyes:
Man up and tell the women to go shopping on her own!!!!!
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: shouldnt have warned him rhyso - he will turn his phone off now :rolleyes:
he's got one of those gay phones - switching that off will switch him off. He'll leave it on :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
What an amazing race..........
What an amazing race..........
:shocked: i fell asleep it was so boring
wet races are always good. Did someone put forward the idea of having sprinklers around the track which comes on at random times?
F duct banned for 2011.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83502
I guess thats because Ferrari and Red Bull did not think of it first.
It was Ferrari's choice to remove it.
Anyone else just see the Red Bull HYPER SUPER MEGA FAIL!!??
I dont think Hamilton got too excited as he didnt feel he "won" the race, more given to him.
Red Bull gives you cock ups. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
was'nt mansell giving hamilton some stick before the race might of been why he was not that happy
webber was not a happy chap schumi had a decent race pace aint there though to keep
up with mclaren and redbull
Why is nicole scherzinger interviewed, shes a f**king retard.Agreed on both points
Controversially, shes not even particularly hot.
Why is nicole scherzinger interviewed, shes a f**king retard.Agreed on both points
Controversially, shes not even particularly hot.
Why is nicole scherzinger interviewed, shes a f**king retard.Agreed on both points
Controversially, shes not even particularly hot.
Why is nicole scherzinger interviewed, shes a f**king retard.Agreed on both points
Controversially, shes not even particularly hot.
its the hype cause she is dating hamilton, who is also over rated in our media :lipsrsealed:
Why is nicole scherzinger interviewed, shes a f**king retard.Agreed on both points
Controversially, shes not even particularly hot.
Thirded. She also has the world's most annoying "Look at me!" voice. About as attractive as a toothpick crossed with a dog's toy... :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
was'nt mansell giving hamilton some stick before the race might of been why he was not that happy
webber was not a happy chap schumi had a decent race pace aint there though to keep
up with mclaren and redbull
I've met Nigal Mansell a few times and from what it sounds he doesn't like anything about the new technology in the cars. He's a dead canny down to earth person but seems to think the cars drive them selfs more than the drivers drive the cars :undecided:
never seen the interview but you know lol
+ Mansells 2 sons greg and leo are both great lads, wouldn't surprise me to see one of them in F1 in the next few years :smiley:
Nicole whateverhernameis is hot and you know you definately would.
As someone providing an opinion on F1 she is 'bottom of the pile' and her playing upto the camera during the button/hamilton spar was laughable.
Why, as Brits, do we build up and then shoot down our talent? Hamilton is young and undeniably talented. We bemoan how F1 is boring and then lambast someone who makes it exciting.
I wonder if it was the fact that he was upset in a way to be gifted a win from Webber, I know him and Webber are really good friends.very much doubt it. Much more likely would be the petulant side of him being bothered that jenson had tried to take his place. After they'd finished the race, before getting weighed, you could hear jenson trying to council him.
So would you be if you had to listen to his other half's annoying voice. :grin:gag her and rag her
Nicole whateverhernameis is hot and you know you definately would.
I operate a no morons policy.
shielding their cars behind barriers to prevent competitors copying isn't cheating as the scrutineers look at all the cars.
who gives a poo - nowt that ferrari and McClaren havent done before :rolleyes:
who gives a poo - nowt that ferrari and McClaren havent done before :rolleyes:Agreed Chuff. Add Benetton & Renault to that list (Flavio...) :lipsrsealed:
it's not illegal if the scrutineers didn't notice it. You're only a cheat if you get caught.shielding their cars behind barriers to prevent competitors copying isn't cheating as the scrutineers look at all the cars.
It IS cheating when said engineers are standing behind a car shielding an illegal suspension setup.
who gives a poo - nowt that ferrari and McClaren havent done before :rolleyes:
Are you referring to whole stealing of documents saga that happened recently?
:undecided: not making it look obvious. :huh:
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/jmfangio5/red-bull-inline.jpg)
5 years ago they were the laughing stock. I'm glad to see someone other than ferrari/maclaren at the front.
you'd have thought he would have smiled. bet he got a big pay increase considering his recent form.
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47960000/jpg/_47960697_webbber_brundle_226.jpg)
http://planetf1.com/off-on-f1/6194280/Secret-Diary-Of-Newey-53-3-4
very intresting article, especialy the bits about the Renault engine. They have obviously been improving it, which may coincide with renaults sudden burst off speed, and redbulls speed at monaco and turkey, as on paper around the slow speed corners of monaco the mclaren should of had the edge.
They have not changed anything to do with the engine, engine design is frozen and they are not allowed to change anything, the reason why Mclaren are catching is that Redbull had to modify 4 areas of the car which were deemed to be outside the rules.
This thread: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84119 may help they are trying to switch to Merc engines as they believe the Renault is around 30bhp down.
im not a fan of all this push to overtake gimmicks personaly; i would rather they just sort the problem out then cover it up with something else. The rear wing idea is obviously the result of how easy the mclaren can overtake thanks to their stalled rear wing.
Best race of the season so far, Schumacher was awful, some really dangerous moves! :shocked:
Ferrari are back with pace :laugh:
1 Ferrari is back with pace, the other one was lingering at the back with the newbies playing bumper cars.
1 Ferrari is back with pace, the other one was lingering at the back with the newbies playing bumper cars.
Massa hasnt really done well this season but in his defence him and Liuzzi had a wee coming together on the first corner and he never got back into it from there.
and he was justified in his comments...but it makes watching far more enjoyable.
I went in 2007. It was certainly an experience and a great atmosphere (especially when Lewis got pole) but I wouldn't go again. It's much easier and more comfortable to watch it on tv... :laugh:
alonso will moan at anything if he doesn't win :grin:
The grid
From 2011, any driver whose best qualifying lap exceeds 107 per cent of the fastest Q1 qualifying time will not be allowed to take part in the race. Under exceptional circumstances, however, which may include setting a suitable lap time in a free practice session, the stewards may permit the car to start the race. Should there be more than one driver accepted in this manner, the grid order will be determined by the stewards.
good race? valencia? :laugh: it will be dull as ditch water mate
i'm glad its valencia tomorrow, don't mind missing it for the football
I like having the "2 classes" in F1, it makes things more interesting for the front runners having to get by back markers that are potentially involved in their own little race and not paying that much attention.:grin: Tell that to mark webber!
I like having the "2 classes" in F1, it makes things more interesting for the front runners having to get by back markers that are potentially involved in their own little race and not paying that much attention.:grin:Tell that to mark webber!
Red Bull gives you wings.
That sulking, whinging spoilt brat Alonso got his come-upance on the second from last lap from the novice Kobayashi. Brilliant drive from him!Exactly he hates lewis and mclaren FACT! after nearly 2 years get over it he won't accept that he was upstaged in mclaren by the better driver! which showed with lewis being 2008 w/c i felt like throwing him a towel when he was being interviewed so he could cry into it!
Red Bull gives you wings.
hamilton diliberately passed safety car to gain advantage over alonso who was major threat
No he did not, sorry but he made a mistake and was given a penalty for it.
1. mark webber - Jesus christ! :shocked: my missus said " will he be dead?" 10 years ago , maybe.
2 alonso - STOP FCUKING MOANING ALL THE TIME YOU MARDY CVNT! even if hamilton did pull a bit of a fast one ( not sure he did) , he got penalised for it according to the rules.
some you win , some you lose , you've won enough due to others misfortune (or cheating - singapore 08?) , you lost this time.
3. alonso - you got mugged by a rookie in a sauber! :laugh:
as much as I strongly dislike both alonso and ferrari it did look like hamilton deliberately held up at the line to allow himself to go through and not alonso. I'd be interested to know if the FIA (no longer Ferrari International Assistance it seems) have listened in to radio comms between hamilton and his crew.
Found out i've got a ticket to the British Grand Prix this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:I'm going Saturday
Anyone else going down? :cool: :cool: :cool:
ur lucky to get tickets.
ill be watching it home where i can see all the action and not just where im sat :grin:
yup , earplugs are a must. one going past isn't too bad , when they're in a train it's fcuking deafening! what you'll also notice that you don't hear on TV is the loud bang everytime they change gear.
Nah the last V10 was in 2005. From 2006 onwards it was 2.4l V8s :nerd:
Not all the cars backfire but a lot do.
Ear plugs are for pussies!
Ear plugs are for pussies!
^^^ one of my fav type of girls. Shame I've got a girlfriend.
^^^ one of my fav type of girls. Shame I've got a girlfriend.
yeah , cos otherwise lotus girl would be all over you like a rash :laugh:
Looking forward to the updates Mclaren are bringing to this GP
Should be interesting for sure :cool:
Top 50 pit babes!
http://www.itv-f1.com/pitbabes.aspx?Top=1
nick
OMG I love you Nick, back in 5.
Spanish coverage from Telecinco FTW !!!
(http://www.itv-f1.com/ImageLibrary/50861_2.jpg)
I think we need to get rid of Jake and get her in.
hahahaha - top comment by weber - No2 driver - Meow :evil:
One finger plonker on pole then, not worth watching.
hahahaha - top comment by weber - No2 driver - Meow :evil:
just got back been down there since thursday what a cracking weekend
1st time at a f1 event loved it would definetly go again good race to :grin:
that was ace. hamilton and button did well considering, webbers little dig was funny as , i bet alonso's helmet was the only thing that stopped his head from bursting with anger!
kobyashi drove his ar5e off again , wouldn't suprise me if renault tried to snatch him up for next year.
that was ace. hamilton and button did well considering, webbers little dig was funny as , i bet alonso's helmet was the only thing that stopped his head from bursting with anger!
kobyashi drove his ar5e off again , wouldn't suprise me if renault tried to snatch him up for next year.
Nah, I'd say Renault will be looking for a bigger player if their results continue to be solid this season. Yesterday not counted of course....
I think in the end Vettel and Webber could well loose Red Bull the Constructers championship. Already they should be miles ahead if not for their Stupidity. Then Red Bull add fuel to the fire by esculating it with the front wing fiasco. The two drivers should be well ahead too.
Mclaren may not win many races but the two drivers are consistant at picking up points.
As for Alonso he thought he would walk the championship before the grand prix season started. Now Massa and he hate each other. Funny that. :rolleyes:
this is very true...vettle and webber dont deserve the driver championship. neither has the right kind of knowledge to be considered. they will be a little more apt. to getting it when they have consistently stayed the points lead and shown they can keep this pace up not just drive a car to the finish a couple of times.I think in the end Vettel and Webber could well loose Red Bull the Constructers championship. Already they should be miles ahead if not for their Stupidity. Then Red Bull add fuel to the fire by esculating it with the front wing fiasco. The two drivers should be well ahead too.
Mclaren may not win many races but the two drivers are consistant at picking up points.
As for Alonso he thought he would walk the championship before the grand prix season started. Now Massa and he hate each other. Funny that. :rolleyes:
Are you really surprised Massa hates Alonso? Massa played second string to Schumacer then seemed on par with Rikonnen (just because Rikonnen didnt care anymore because he was so rich) then Massa has had to compete with one of the most talented drivers in the feild at the moment and he's playing second string again!
Red Bull should be way out ahead but the fact is there not. And its because they thought they would walk this season with vettle as the main man. When Webber really started being a title contender the team didnt expect it and didnt know how to react. So while Red Bull argue between themselfs every race the Mclaren boys are having some good FRIENDLY competition and with that are proving some very good consistant finishes :smiley:
I think Red Bull deserve the Constuctors championship because of all there hard work but i dont think either driver deserves the Driver Championship because neither are mature enough. Vettle and Webber are both getting as bad as Alonso!
Since the accident Massa has been nowhere. He should really either raise his own bar and punch above his weight or retire. At the moment he's only just keeping his head above the water. Alonso IS expecting it all to be a walk in a park, but then again Ferrari has always been competitive and to suddenly enter a new team and be fighting with renaults and toro rossos must be frustrating. He's not had much luck this year either, engine problems, safety car scandals etc. In my openion Alonso is the best driver out there pound for pound, he's not the best at defending or attacking, but he is consistent and skilled in all areas.Ferrari need to stop complaining as a team about everything and start actually developing the car properly and being competitive. At the end of the day, even the best of drivers (Schumacher) with bad cars can't do much about the raw speed of the redbulls and reliability of the mclaren.
Since the accident Massa has been nowhere. He should really either raise his own bar and punch above his weight or retire. At the moment he's only just keeping his head above the water. Alonso IS expecting it all to be a walk in a park, but then again Ferrari has always been competitive and to suddenly enter a new team and be fighting with renaults and toro rossos must be frustrating. He's not had much luck this year either, engine problems, safety car scandals etc. In my openion Alonso is the best driver out there pound for pound, he's not the best at defending or attacking, but he is consistent and skilled in all areas.Ferrari need to stop complaining as a team about everything and start actually developing the car properly and being competitive. At the end of the day, even the best of drivers (Schumacher) with bad cars can't do much about the raw speed of the redbulls and reliability of the mclaren.
well apart from defending or attacking - what the fcuk is left to do :rolleyes:
oh yes, moan and bleat, he is fooking Skilled in all those areas :afro:
Whhaaaaaat?+1 :wink:
Alonso has talent, but he's mental attitude is all wrong. Since that season with Lewis he's lost hi sedge completely. Whenever something goes a bit wrong, rather than concerntrating on his own race, he complains and cries and shouts foul play. I wouldn't be surprised if Ferrari drop him for 2012 if next year see's no improvement in his attitude and results. The man has 2 world championships to his name and you don't get that by being rubbish but I really can't see him winning another unless he removes that giant ship on his shoulder.
Nick
Whhaaaaaat?+1 :wink:
Alonso has talent, but he's mental attitude is all wrong. Since that season with Lewis he's lost hi sedge completely. Whenever something goes a bit wrong, rather than concerntrating on his own race, he complains and cries and shouts foul play. I wouldn't be surprised if Ferrari drop him for 2012 if next year see's no improvement in his attitude and results. The man has 2 world championships to his name and you don't get that by being rubbish but I really can't see him winning another unless he removes that giant ship on his shoulder.
Nick
1. Hamilton
2. Button
3. Rosburg <-- why?
4. Alonso
5. Vettel
6. Webber
7. Kubica
8. Barrichello <-- Above Schumacher?!?!?! :undecided:
9. Schumacher
10. Massa
1. Hamilton
2. Button
3. Rosburg <-- why?
4. Alonso
5. Vettel
6. Webber
7. Kubica
8. Barrichello <-- Above Schumacher?!?!?! :undecided:
9. Schumacher
10. Massa
1. Hamilton
2. Button
3. Rosburg <-- why?
4. Alonso
5. Vettel
6. Webber
7. Kubica
8. Barrichello <-- Above Schumacher?!?!?! :undecided:
9. Schumacher
10. Massa
Its not an all time great drivers list is it? its whose there an now, an right now, schumi is shhhiiiiiiitttt!
1. Hamilton
2. Button
3. Rosburg <-- why?
4. Alonso
5. Vettel
6. Webber
7. Kubica
8. Barrichello <-- Above Schumacher?!?!?! :undecided:
9. Schumacher
10. Massa
Its not an all time great drivers list is it? its whose there an now, an right now, schumi is shhhiiiiiiitttt!
Schumi is in a crap car!!! Had a bad day yday but Rosburg is no where near better than him!!!!
You're all wrong
Barrichello is the best driver in F1.
He's the quickest around the Top Gear test track after all :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
You're all wrong
Barrichello is the best driver in F1.
He's the quickest around the Top Gear test track after all :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
I'm probably going to get shot down for this but here goes anyway.
Schumacher is certainly talented, that cannot be questioned, however....does no-one else think that part of his success could be attributed to his lack ofreal compitition?NOONE ELSE CHEATING For example the top 10 in 1999 were (in no real order): Frentzen, Irvine, Barrichello, Fisichella, Coulthard, Herbert, Mika Salo, Verstappen, Ralph Scumacher and finally Michael.
In comparison at the moment he's competing with the likes of Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel, Rosberg, Kubica, Massa, Button and Webber. Had these great drivers been around in Schueys hay day might things have been different? I think so! Putting aside the fact that his car isn't great this season I think that theres no way he'd win 7 world championships against the caliber of drivers this season.
I think he's made a mistake returning to F1 it's going to make everyone question how good a driver he actually is.
Anyway that's two cents.....discuss!
I'm probably going to get shot down for this but here goes anyway.
Schumacher is certainly talented, that cannot be questioned, however....does no-one else think that part of his success could be attributed to his lack of real compitition? For example the top 10 in 1999 were (in no real order): Frentzen, Irvine, Barrichello, Fisichella, Coulthard, Herbert, Mika Salo, Verstappen, Ralph Scumacher and finally Michael.
In comparison at the moment he's competing with the likes of Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel, Rosberg, Kubica, Massa, Button and Webber. Had these great drivers been around in Schueys hay day might things have been different? I think so! Putting aside the fact that his car isn't great this season I think that theres no way he'd win 7 world championships against the caliber of drivers this season.
I think he's made a mistake returning to F1 it's going to make everyone question how good a driver he actually is.
Anyway that's two cents.....discuss!
I think one of the most underrated drivers is Kubica. If the Webber situation gets worse, he could be a surprise showing in Red Bull next year if they can buy him out of his Renault contract :lipsrsealed:
I'm probably going to get shot down for this but here goes anyway.
Schumacher is certainly talented, that cannot be questioned, however....does no-one else think that part of his success could be attributed to his lack of real compitition? For example the top 10 in 1999 were (in no real order): Frentzen, Irvine, Barrichello, Fisichella, Coulthard, Herbert, Mika Salo, Verstappen, Ralph Scumacher and finally Michael.
In comparison at the moment he's competing with the likes of Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel, Rosberg, Kubica, Massa, Button and Webber. Had these great drivers been around in Schueys hay day might things have been different? I think so! Putting aside the fact that his car isn't great this season I think that theres no way he'd win 7 world championships against the caliber of drivers this season.
I think he's made a mistake returning to F1 it's going to make everyone question how good a driver he actually is.
Anyway that's two cents.....discuss!
I think one of the most underrated drivers is Kubica. If the Webber situation gets worse, he could be a surprise showing in Red Bull next year if they can buy him out of his Renault contract :lipsrsealed:
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/jmfangio5/ilhfyg.jpg)
And both are currently 1st and 2nd in the title race . . . .. :rolleyes:
Too much hatred in this thread towards every driver other than Hamilton n button cause both are British :drool:
Everyone here seems to back mclaren drivers but I don't think they are that good. Last year Hamilton was no where because his car was not fast enough. Same goes with button prior to last year where he win his first and probably last championship due to supremacy of Ross Brawn. Nobody knew him when he use to drive for Honda.
Also in 08 Massa almost had him in brazil and what Lewis did, just drove to keep 5 th position so he can win the championship
yeah right I guess you don't remember last year hamilton use to start at back of the grid wishing good luck to guys at front :grin:
why the anti Britishness??
you should be supporting British sports men not some German has been and a moaning Spanish twit
thats what it seems like.
Too much hatred in this thread towards every driver other than Hamilton n button cause both are British :drool:
Too much hatred in this thread towards every driver other than Hamilton n button cause both are British :drool:
Hands up if you privately dislike your team mate
(http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/dd9/VR6Lee/F1jenselewis.gif)
yeah right I guess you don't remember last year hamilton use to start at back of the grid wishing good luck to guys at front :grin:
If the season had of started from half way through last year, Hamilton would of had his second world title as he was the leading driver in the second part of the season.
Too much hatred in this thread towards every driver other than Hamilton n button cause both are British
yeah right I guess you don't remember last year hamilton use to start at back of the grid wishing good luck to guys at front :grin:
to be fair to alonso he didn't get told by his team to let kubica back past , they kept it to themselves. This explains why he accepted his penalty without moaning this week.
yeah right I guess you don't remember last year hamilton use to start at back of the grid wishing good luck to guys at front :grin:
yes because at the start of the season he had a car that was probably last seasons equivalent to this seasons Hispania car.
Im guessing you are forgetting that he didnt moan about it, and instead helped the team turn the car from the back marker to the leading car.
If the season had of started from half way through last year, Hamilton would of had his second world title as he was the leading driver in the second part of the season.
yeah right I guess you don't remember last year hamilton use to start at back of the grid wishing good luck to guys at front :grin:
yes because at the start of the season he had a car that was probably last seasons equivalent to this seasons Hispania car.
Im guessing you are forgetting that he didnt moan about it, and instead helped the team turn the car from the back marker to the leading car.
If the season had of started from half way through last year, Hamilton would of had his second world title as he was the leading driver in the second part of the season.
There is a massive thing everyone misses about last year!!! the 2009 Brawn was developed through half of 2008 by Honda.. That is well documented! The other thing you are missing is that the days Lewis started at the rear of the pack he was able to push the car to its limits and sometimes beyond them to pick up places.. Its is plain as day simple to see that Lewis is the best driver on the track per say!
Doe anyone else think Webber was told not to try today.
boring boring boring formula one the only racing i can sleep through
Yet again, Ferrari are responsible for me loosing a little more respect for this sport. I hope this is sorted out by the stewards post race.
Ferrari fined $100000 but the result stands. Cheating b'stards. It's Massa I feel sorry for. :angry:
Very poor race and Ferrari have done the sport no favors.
Bigger row brewing: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85532
Ah, so constructors points will be penalised then. And once again, Teflonso cheats his way to another win... :rolleyes:
yes this was an awesome race but the fact that they had to send that message means they are wanting alonso to be up for bigger points i think and this will hinder any chances for massa to make a good year out of thisAh, so constructors points will be penalised then. And once again, Teflonso cheats his way to another win... :rolleyes:
Exactly, its pathetic but no less than I would expect from Ferrari and Alonso, dirty cheats and a stain on motor sport.
you can't get rid of it , it would be impossible to police.
All they'd have to do is have a code eg . 'turn fuel to setting 8' that has been agreed to behind the scenes and be a bit more subtle.
mclaren at turkey this year : they told jenson to "save fuel" and told lewis , jenson wouldn't overtake. you could chose to believe this was real or you could be a bit more cynical and think they didn't want to risk doing a red bull so made them hold station.
I think it's better to accept ferrari's got the pace now and spainard was just untouchable
I think it's better to accept ferrari's got the pace now and spainard was just untouchable
^^^ :huh:
They had to ask Massa to move over and at the point in the race, Massa was quicker.
How does that make Alonso 'untouchable'? Grumpy, yes. Untouchable, no.
If u look at lap times of both massa and alonso you will see who was quicker
the only time alonso was quicker in the race was the first couple of laps of massa just putting on the harder tyres.
Alonso haters. Feel free to vent here! :rolleyes:
http://www.alonso-planet.com/
nothing can stop a driver being told in his ear 5 minutes before he gets into the car that he has to let his team mate pass in certain situations.how about if each team only had one car and there were more teams?
nothing can stop a driver being told in his ear 5 minutes before he gets into the car that he has to let his team mate pass in certain situations.how about if each team only had one car and there were more teams?
the 'for sure' championship is hotting up :grin:Now that is a competition, for sure a Brit has to win that! :grin:
http://www.f1network.net/main/s169/st150763.htm
boring qualifying sessions, mclarens are dropping off now.hope there upgrades start working for them soon. And god knows whats gonna happen with the flexi front wing the red bulls and ferrari are using. its obvious it moves when braking and coming into corners, thats why they are loads quicker.
nothing can stop a driver being told in his ear 5 minutes before he gets into the car that he has to let his team mate pass in certain situations.how about if each team only had one car and there were more teams?
the rules say that you can only make one move to defend. To be fair, Schuie conformed to that. :smiley:
there's defending and then there's tempting someone into a position and cutting them off against a concrete wall at 190mph
You say he put him into the wall, but how did rubens pass then? A cars gap was left. It was an agressive move but not dangerous for drivers as good as f1 drivers
You say he put him into the wall, but how did rubens pass then? A cars gap was left. It was an agressive move but not dangerous for drivers as good as f1 drivers
when senna took prost out on the first corner to win the championship all them years ago did he get any grief over it
I remember schumi did a similiar move to hill in adelaide to win the championship and he got so much grief
like you all say the concrete wall made the move look worse if it had'nt been there
nothing would of been said
I reckon he has given up already for this year. I read somewhere Ross Brawn has turned all his attention to car development for next year and I'm pretty sure schumacher will whoop a$$ in 2011 :evil:I don't reckon he'll "whoop a$$" at all. If they get a good car he will be a contender, but he will not dominate. Rosberg will match or beat him if the car's good. If the car's bad Rosberg will retire him.
when senna took prost out on the first corner to win the championship all them years ago did he get any grief over it
I remember schumi did a similiar move to hill in adelaide to win the championship and he got so much grief
like you all say the concrete wall made the move look worse if it had'nt been there
nothing would of been said
people are talking because its not the first time this season he has done it. Remember canada when he pulled a stunt on massa. People were straight onto it then but MS got away with that one.
And as for the Senna not getting grief, i seem to remember he got grief for it. I remember him arguing in a press conference that he went for a gap, and if they (FIA) are going to stop him going in gaps then he would quit because its against a race drivers instinct. But to be fair to Senna, he had very good reason to do that, he was screwed over by the stewards for putting him on the wrong side of the grid. MS in adelade was different. MS completely screwed up going off the track and he knew he had lost it, so instead of doing the sportsmans like thing and trying to get the place back he decided he would try and barge into him instead.
Should be interesting come Japan:hoo bloody ray cant stand that lanky streak of pi55 humphries or eddie jordan the pair of em ruin the coverage
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/7925699/Formula-1-to-be-presented-by-female-for-first-time.html
Should be interesting come Japan:hoo bloody ray cant stand that lanky streak of pi55 humphries or eddie jordan the pair of em ruin the coverage
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/7925699/Formula-1-to-be-presented-by-female-for-first-time.html
Should be interesting come Japan:hoo bloody ray cant stand that lanky streak of pi55 humphries or eddie jordan the pair of em ruin the coverage
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/7925699/Formula-1-to-be-presented-by-female-for-first-time.html
Theres only one man that ruins the coverage and thats Legard
you don't know how good you've got it!
here the coverage is bbc but with adverts.
either side of the adverts there is usually a few minutes of aussie comentators who are truly awful. they get all their info from the autosport website and never talk about whats actually happening on track and quite often come out with things that are just plain wrong.
to add to that one of them talks like a stroke victim on valium.
legard is murray walker in comparison. :laugh:
http://www.mapmash.in/f12010.html (http://www.mapmash.in/f12010.html)
I proposed by text message....what's the problem?!? :smiley:
I proposed by text message....what's the problem?!? :smiley:
you romantic ba5tard. :laugh:
lets be fair though - only came a good race cos of the weather - :rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp8tTb-_Y-E
check out vettels front wing tips at about 50 seconds as he pulls out of buttons slip stream :shocked:
no flex my ar5e.
Christian Horner says it was not Vettel's fault but Buttons
"Jenson, braking where he did, just took him completely by surprise. In trying to avoid him he got himself into a spin that ultimately collected Jenson in very, very difficult conditions. He is a great racing driver, he is still a very young guy and it is easy to be very critical on somebody who is relatively inexperienced – but for sure he will learn a lot from what happened."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86276
webber may be good now....but vettel may be great in 2 years time. It makes sense why he's leaned towards him.
How about the telemetary showed Jenson didn't brake any earlier, and Horner needs to get his mouth from around Vettel's bell end
So glad that short arse grumpy spaniard didnt finish :grin: :cool:
So glad that short arse grumpy spaniard didnt finish :grin: :cool:
Yep big ol' cheer went up in my mates house when he got speared off by Rubens, then again when he binned it. :grin:
i missed the race again due to america sucking balls and allSo glad that short arse grumpy spaniard didnt finish :grin: :cool:
Yep big ol' cheer went up in my mates house when he got speared off by Rubens, then again when he binned it. :grin:
I was amazed his car even survived the impact from Rubens!! :shocked: :shocked:
I laughed very hard when he binned it :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
yeah, sounds like it might actually be a good one , they do things big in Texas don't they?.
it's going to be located just south east of the austin-bergstrom airport.
from what i've read the location is pretty hilly and the track will have some corners influcenced by great corners from other tracks, an american eau-rouge would be nice.
lets see if Tilke can fcuk it up tho' shall we. he'll probably have the place flattend. :rolleyes:
that would be horrible (oval). yeah i am here and would pay to see an eau-rouge here.... i would hate to see the average racer from here on the flat lands try that track. any linksyeah, sounds like it might actually be a good one , they do things big in Texas don't they?.
it's going to be located just south east of the austin-bergstrom airport.
from what i've read the location is pretty hilly and the track will have some corners influcenced by great corners from other tracks, an american eau-rouge would be nice.
lets see if Tilke can fcuk it up tho' shall we. he'll probably have the place flattend. :rolleyes:
it will probably end up being another oval :rolleyes:
looks like the 80's are back in fashion. :grin:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86341
looks like the 80's are back in fashion. :grin:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86341
1.6l 4cyl engines? No thanks, rather hear the power of the V8's.
Slap on the wrists I reckon.
nick
no further action. Not surprised..a little dissapointed. Not even a bigger fine or suspended penalty. Initial fine stands
no further action. Not surprised..a little dissapointed. Not even a bigger fine or suspended penalty. Initial fine stands
$100,000 is the biggest fine stewards can impose
no further action. Not surprised..a little dissapointed. Not even a bigger fine or suspended penalty. Initial fine stands
$100,000 is the biggest fine stewards can impose
It is, but as far as i'm aware the WMC can impose a bigger fine can they not?
i say strip them of points, ive got no love for ferrari :angry:ditto. Imagine if you'd had money on Massa to win. I'd be livid.
If the outcome of a race can be dictated by a radio message then the sport has gone out of the sport. What is the use of racing if you know you cant win? The team should be happy that their cars are gaining the maximim points. Its up to the drivers to get to the finishing line first.
If the outcome of a race can be dictated by a radio message then the sport has gone out of the sport. What is the use of racing if you know you cant win? The team should be happy that their cars are gaining the maximim points. Its up to the drivers to get to the finishing line first.
The thing is f1 is a team and individual sport at the same time. Unfortunately the teams pay the drivers and the constructors championship will always be their no1 target. Fans on the other hand are more inerested in the drivers championship, which is why so much has been made of ferraris team orders
uneventful. almost as bad as some new tracks and monaco.:grin: :grin: suprised he never got on the radio to say jenson braked on purpose so he had to hit him **cue the stewards** :rolleyes: leasy it stopped him crying anyway the lucky tw@t
can't really even slag alonso off today but i'll give it a go . errr ... he only won cos he damaged buttons diffuser at the start. :undecided:
:grin:
hispania fcuked up.
WARNING - bit nasty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9I7FE2XP3I
Kimis interviews were brilliant :D :D :D
He just seemed so uninterested in talking to ANYONE.
Kimis interviews were brilliant :D :D :D
He just seemed so uninterested in talking to ANYONE.
All the other drivers have their serious face on, ignoring interviewers, talking to their engineers on last minute strategy. Kimi strolls up eating an ice cream.
:D :D :D :D
ICEMAN !
Wasnt that when it was raining somewhere and all the other drivers where sitting in their cars with umbrellas waiting for the race to restart and he got out, got changed and had an ice cream? That was class LOL
I think he has almost ruined it already imo. Just goes to show how much better this generation of drivers are compared to the ones he was up against.
What drivers was he up against?
Montoya had his moments , Damon Hill did win the WDC as did Villeneuve. He only won in 2003 by 2 points from raikonnen.
I think Schuey did have competitors back in the day but he's just lost theedgeTC he had.
I think he has almost ruined it already imo. Just goes to show how much better this generation of drivers are compared to the ones he was up against.
I'm probably going to get shot down for this but here goes anyway.
Schumacher is certainly talented, that cannot be questioned, however....does no-one else think that part of his success could be attributed to his lack of real compitition? For example the top 10 in 1999 were (in no real order): Frentzen, Irvine, Barrichello, Fisichella, Coulthard, Herbert, Mika Salo, Verstappen, Ralph Scumacher and finally Michael.
In comparison at the moment he's competing with the likes of Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel, Rosberg, Kubica, Massa, Button and Webber. Had these great drivers been around in Schueys hay day might things have been different? I think so! Putting aside the fact that his car isn't great this season I think that theres no way he'd win 7 world championships against the caliber of drivers this season.
I think he's made a mistake returning to F1 it's going to make everyone question how good a driver he actually is.
Anyway that's two cents.....discuss!
http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/6376617/-BBC-Considering-Axing-Legard-
Legard out?? best news iv heard today!
Not sure the old schumacher can come back. I mean when he was dominating loads of testing was there to sort out issues with the car etc. But know hes gotta deal with whats there and some how over come it in a shorter time. The real schumacher not quite back not sure he will be. But i aint gonna right him off. There is a lot of reasons why hes not there yet. Just gonna take alot of time to get it all back.
Legard is a bit of a tool. I've not spoken to one person who likes him.
I don't think Schumacher has lost his touch at all. If you remember, when he first went to Ferrari, it was years before he started winning championships, and I have to say, if it was not for Schumacher, then I think Ferraris recent success may not have materialised.
Racing is not just about winning races. Its about knowing what is wrong with the car and getting it fixed as far as set up, weight distribution, aerodynamics etc. Schumacher is at one with in depth knowledge on how to make these things work and this is his first year with a brand new team. I think there is more to come.
That said, his tactics on the track leave alot to be desired.
IMO, he is one of the best racing drivers that has ever lived.
Legard is a bit of a tool. I've not spoken to one person who likes him.
i don't mind him but anything is better than the morons who do it here either side of the adverts. :sick
Legard is a bit of a tool. I've not spoken to one person who likes him.
i don't mind him but anything is better than the morons who do it here either side of the adverts. :sick
Woah woah woah, lets not forget what an improvment Legard is over James "The Cock" Allen
I like James Allen , his website is great.
what you need is a two tier championship. Let's give the lesser teams some incentive.
why would they pull out? If anything, the lesser teams would earn more sponsorship because they'd get more coverage due to winning something.
Work the tiers on team budgets.
Works fine in the carrera cup supporting the BTCC. There's three tiers in that and they all race at the same time.
nick
Works fine in the carrera cup supporting the BTCC. There's three tiers in that and they all race at the same time.
nick
Top tier is new cars, 2nd tier is last years car, 3rd tier I'm not sure.
The point UFO is making is that the races will be the same as they are now but the teams with a small budget get their own championship allowing them to get trophies and points. It happens in many many different motorsports and works perfectly well.
nick
But, and please correct me if I'm wrong here, are those differect tiers imposed by restrictions in car type/development?
and also introduce a sprinkler system at every track, because we all know that wet races are always good!!!!
^^^ On the topic of leaving teams to develop cars for ultimate performance, Martin Brundle was talking about it a few races ago. He said that if teams were left to develop their own stuff then cars would pull so much G through the corners that drivers would black out.
I think the ultimate F1 plan would a preset budget for all teams, the same engine supplier for all teams (with sealed engines so no cheeky tuning), the same tyres (none of this prime or option crap), the same aerodynamic packages with wings and diffusers that help the driver behind overtake and the same rules for everyone. Kind of like A1GP. That way it's up to the driver to push hard enough and make the effort so he can win rather than let the team develop a fast car.So just like GP2 then?? :grin: :grin: :grin:
I think the ultimate F1 plan would a preset budget for all teams, the same engine supplier for all teams (with sealed engines so no cheeky tuning), the same tyres (none of this prime or option crap), the same aerodynamic packages with wings and diffusers that help the driver behind overtake and the same rules for everyone. Kind of like A1GP. That way it's up to the driver to push hard enough and make the effort so he can win rather than let the team develop a fast car.
so, first or second corner carnage then :tongue:
30 mins left for start and 2 hours for spainard to make it 3 in a row :evil:
go alonso and ferrari :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
30 mins left for start and 2 hours for spainard to make it 3 in a row :evil:
go alonso and ferrari :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
You cant be serious?! HAMILTON FTW!!!!
I second Chandhok winning! if you sakon yamamoto looks good... if he was racing
YAAAAAWWWNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!
Hamilton is out :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
I think he made the right decision. Lots of equipment in the pit lane. End of the race too. Pit straight easily accessible. He made the right move.
anyone know what the mclaren 'upgrade' is going to be for Suzuka?
anyone know what the mclaren 'upgrade' is going to be for Suzuka?
I think they're bring another new front wing and a modified version of their blown diffuser.
Nick
Man of the match for me though was Webber.
Eyebrow wins again, would love to see a monty python animation of his brow :grin:
Lewis had a numpty moment while Jenson brought home the points, better driver imo :smiley:
Webber all the way for me this year he plain deserves it
Eyebrow wins again, would love to see a monty python animation of his brow :grin:
Lewis had a numpty moment while Jenson brought home the points, better driver imo :smiley:
Webber all the way for me this year he plain deserves it
Agree button is far better driver than Hamilton but poor chap is in wrong team
Mclaren screw it up again, why leave it so long to call the drivers in then gift Webber 3rd.
I have a feeling Alonso will go on to be champion.
how was he lapping at the same pace as button then?
im sure mclaren know what they are doing :wink:
would be nice to see webber win it, well tbh anyone is better than that greasy mobrowed khunt :laugh:
khare, stop paying attention to legard :grin:
Nice looking race but pretty boring to watch for the most part.
Kovalainen did the smart thing at the end. Only an Idiot would drive a burning car into a crowded pitlane at the end of a race.
Hamilton went for it, didn't make it. People would just moan that he's not trying if he didn't try to go for it. can't win with some people.I hope webber wins the WDC now even though it means i'll have to put up with a load of gloating Aussies.
but for a handful of crashes....it was boring as hell.
I'd like to see the Singapore race in the rain. I reckon that would be interesting. By interesting I mean full of crashes.
Oh and purely because I'll be there to see it :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
Oh and purely because I'll be there to see it :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
Your going to Abu Dabhi?!
Oh and purely because I'll be there to see it :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
Your going to Abu Dabhi?!
Interlagos
Porsche would make a good F1 team, i think its about time part of the VAG group entered F1. Skoda, VW or Seat would be pointless but Audi, Lamboughini or Porsche would make a good team to compete against the big teams :smiley:
well it just goes to show what a bunch of overpaid jessies they all are :rolleyes:
a spot of water and they are all moaning like fcuk :laugh:
i have seen BIKES run in worse conditions :lipsrsealed:
Fags - the lot of them
Yep, 5 place drop for changing a gearbox.
:grin:Yep, 5 place drop for changing a gearbox.
Did he change it for an outboard??? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9076871.stm
Yep, 5 place drop for changing a gearbox.
Bloody Vettel does it again. Am I the only one that hates him winning? :sad:
Loved how he took fastest lap on the last lap :D
didnt get to watch as the U.S. sucks balls..... but sounded great
@komenda: webber took fast lap?
@wayne love the sig
Apparently Seb loves to get the fastest lap and always asks whos got it so Webber took it just to spite him.
And can we keep Lee Mckenzie as the main presenter :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
And can we keep Lee Mckenzie as the main presenter :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Oh hell yes, I second that. PHWOOOOORR !
and it gets better, anyone using sky+ - ooooops - when it changed to bbc2 - it stopped recording :laugh: :grin:
Wasnt that vettels last engine too ?
1. Sky player fail, BBC swap over pi$$ed me off. iPlayer it was.
2. Webber surely he could have turned the OTHER way rather than back on track. I think his intention was to take out someone, preferably Alonso. Fail!
3. Vettel, good pace, but Alonso was quicker and going to catch up sooner or later. Unlucky for him though, I think he's lost the championship, along with Webber.
4. Hamilton needs to stop shredding his tyres so quickly, he's too aggressive when pushing.
5. Alonso will win the championship. As Brundle said he's the feared one in this era of F1. For all those saying he's a rubbish driver and blah blah, just look at the standings. Under pressure makes no error and keeps his cool, which is something Hamilton has failed to show, Monza and Singapore are classic examples of being greedy for position. He's also in an inferior car to both Red Bull and McLaren. It's 2007 all over again, which is what lost Hamilton his first title, consistency.
Alonso pulled about 13 seconds off Lewis with about 4 laps to go didn't he?
Nobody says that Alonso is a bad or rubbish or crap driver. He is one of the most talented and best drivers out there. But that does not give him a free license to whinge and moan the way he does. He is a brilliant driver and he will be champion again sometime. But his bickering both off and on the track will not get him there sooner. In fact it could hinder his bid. He does not need to have everything his way anyway. He is good enough to get to the top without doing all that crap.
If he just shut up and got on with it, he would be more respected.
2. Webber surely he could have turned the OTHER way rather than back on track. I think his intention was to take out someone, preferably Alonso. Fail!
1. Sky player fail, BBC swap over pi$$ed me off. iPlayer it was.
2. Webber surely he could have turned the OTHER way rather than back on track. I think his intention was to take out someone, preferably Alonso. Fail!
3. Vettel, good pace, but Alonso was quicker and going to catch up sooner or later. Unlucky for him though, I think he's lost the championship, along with Webber.
4. Hamilton needs to stop shredding his tyres so quickly, he's too aggressive when pushing.
5. Alonso will win the championship. As Brundle said he's the feared one in this era of F1. For all those saying he's a rubbish driver and blah blah, just look at the standings. Under pressure makes no error and keeps his cool, which is something Hamilton has failed to show, Monza and Singapore are classic examples of being greedy for position. He's also in an inferior car to both Red Bull and McLaren. It's 2007 all over again, which is what lost Hamilton his first title, consistency.
Jenson's a great driver and probably one of the fastest and smoothest, but only if his car's set up perfectly. If it's anything short of perfect he really does struggle.if last years braun didn't have the massive jump on all the other cars in the first half of the season, jenson would not have won. It's as simple as that. Yes, he is smooth but he is not quick enough and is not an out-and-out racer. He's only won this season due to strategy choices.
Jonathan Legard - how did a man with so little fundamental understanding of motorsport in general become a F1 commentator?!?!?!
The man is clearly an idiot.
Brundle is no better, Barrichello has a flat tyre and he says it is only flat at the bottom.
Jonathan Legard - how did a man with so little fundamental understanding of motorsport in general become a F1 commentator?!?!?!
The man is clearly an idiot.
Brundle is no better, Barrichello has a flat tyre and he says it is only flat at the bottom.
rookie on pole cost alonso from winning today, now it will be decided next week at final race. One of the most exciting season in f1
if the world was fair and just, a backmarker would do the decent thing and take out Alonso next week. Following the incident at Hockenheim, he shouldn't even be in contention.
I've never really got that impression :undecided:
I've never really got that impression :undecided:
http://planetf1.com/news/18227/6495096/Hamilton-Alonso-could-be-one-of-the-greats (http://planetf1.com/news/18227/6495096/Hamilton-Alonso-could-be-one-of-the-greats)
My prediction...
Maaaaark Wibber and the german will get together at some point and take each other out.
Dolmio Boy will then lead, but retire with 2 laps to go with an epic engine failure of some sort.
Lewis will win.
Simples.
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Yeh I got bored and made this too.
My prediction...
Maaaaark Wibber and the german will get together at some point and take each other out.
Dolmio Boy will then lead, but retire with 2 laps to go with an epic engine failure of some sort.
Lewis will win.
Simples.
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Yeh I got bored and made this too.
just hope hamilton crashes out. least then wont have to hear his moaning all the time.Are you kidding me, he has been surprisingly positive throughout the season considering the car he has to work with. Jenson Button on the other hand does moan all the time.
just hope hamilton crashes out. least then wont have to hear his moaning all the time.Are you kidding me, he has been surprisingly positive throughout the season considering the car he has to work with. Jenson Button on the other hand does moan all the time.
unlike smiler
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:grin: :grin:
WTF...Jaime Alguersuari just moved over to let webber pass, isn't it secret team order :tongue:
WTF...Jaime Alguersuari just moved over to let webber pass, isn't it secret team order :tongue:
Different team??
lol petrov just shook the beans at alonso
Well Done Seb............... crying like a girl! :grin:
Alonso waving like an angry old man to Petrov :rolleyes:
Alonso you despicable twit :angry:
Right until the very last moment, he confirms the utter twerp he is.
How people can support him says a lot about their character.
Absolutely no class at all.
Well Done Seb............... crying like a girl! :grin:
Alonso waving like an angry old man to Petrov :rolleyes:
Alonso you despicable <unt :angry:
Right until the very last moment, he confirms the utter <unt he is.
How people can support him says a lot about their character.
Absolutely no class at all.
+1. Just shows what a poor loser and bad sportsman he really is. True colours were shown.
What a complete let down, all the hype and build up and that pillock wins.
Good result for Red Bull, at least it was a British team that won. Some strange tactical decisions today regarding pit stop timings. Alonso shows what a sore loser he is yet again. I think Lewis really could have pushed Vettel if it hadn't been for Kubica.red bull is an Austrian team.
What a complete let down, all the hype and build up and that pillock wins.
The lesser of two evils really, i'm much rather Vettel win than Alonso.
Wanted Webber to do it.
Good result for Red Bull, at least it was a British team that won. Some strange tactical decisions today regarding pit stop timings. Alonso shows what a sore loser he is yet again. I think Lewis really could have pushed Vettel if it hadn't been for Kubica.red bull is an Austrian team.
I'm gutted for alonso. Even though I love the man to bits I dislike what he did at the end, but I think anyone in his position would have done it.
What a complete let down, all the hype and build up and that pillock wins.
The lesser of two evils really, i'm much rather Vettel win than Alonso.
Wanted Webber to do it.
Schumacher and Rosberg in 2011 might be interesting too. I don't like Alonso as whenever something goes wrong he throws his toys out of his expensive pram looking for someone else to blame. Same goes for Lewis as he's started whining like a 2 year old needing a slap.
Webber doesn't have the mental toughness (I think that showed today) and Kubica is not in a fast enough car. It'd be interesting if Webber decides to retire - would they buy Kubica in to Red Bull? See how quick he'd be in a REALLY quick car! :cool:
Schumacher and Rosberg in 2011 might be interesting too. I don't like Alonso as whenever something goes wrong he throws his toys out of his expensive pram looking for someone else to blame. Same goes for Lewis as he's started whining like a 2 year old needing a slap.
Webber doesn't have the mental toughness (I think that showed today) and Kubica is not in a fast enough car. It'd be interesting if Webber decides to retire - would they buy Kubica in to Red Bull? See how quick he'd be in a REALLY quick car! :cool:
Kubica has future at ferrari with alonso. When mas leaves Kubica will go in. Now that will be ultimate team.
I agree Massa will definitely be off, can't see Ferrari getting a driver that is going to push Alonso too hard. Alonso needs to be the main focus within the team he will be hoping for an average replacement for Massa IMO.
Kobayashi at Ferrari with Alfonso?? He would learn a thing or two and push his team mate whilst he's at it. He certainly is not phased by much and is not intimidated by anyone.
Schumacher and Rosberg in 2011 might be interesting too. I don't like Alonso as whenever something goes wrong he throws his toys out of his expensive pram looking for someone else to blame. Same goes for Lewis as he's started whining like a 2 year old needing a slap.
Webber doesn't have the mental toughness (I think that showed today) and Kubica is not in a fast enough car. It'd be interesting if Webber decides to retire - would they buy Kubica in to Red Bull? See how quick he'd be in a REALLY quick car! :cool:
Kubica has future at ferrari with alonso. When mas leaves Kubica will go in. Now that will be ultimate team.
Here's the ending to the coverage if no-one saw it. That Song :cool:
BBC F1 ENDING (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsyOgYjrV8I)
The current Lotus team will become 1Malaysia F1
Here's the ending to the coverage if no-one saw it. That Song :cool:
BBC F1 ENDING (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsyOgYjrV8I)
One thing I really hope for next season is that Coulthard doesn't show so much bias towards Red Bull. I know he's still working for them but he just p!sses me off! :grin: :grin: :grin:
Vettle had a good solid race pace but he won it out of luck. It wasnt a dominating season or final race, he won because Hamilton was trapped behind Kubica and he had a good Pit stop in comparison to Alonso and Webbers. If there had been more overtaking positions and Alonso, Webber and Hamilton didnt get caught in traffic there was no way Vettle would have won, Hamilton definitely would have won and Alonso would have definitely had a great finish.
Vettle did not win it out of luck, 10 poles and 6 wins I don't like him but he did what was needed.
Raikkonen is not coming back by the way.
Last i herd he was in talks with Renault? That been scrapped?
vettle didn't win the last race out of luck , he won it cos ferrari fcuked up
Alonso had a great second half of the season despite the winging and cheating
QuoteAlonso had a great second half of the season despite the winging and cheating
Errrr..... :huh:
QuoteAlonso had a great second half of the season despite the winging and cheating
Errrr..... :huh:
I'm guessing he's referring to the team orders.
QuoteAlonso had a great second half of the season despite the winging and cheating
Errrr..... :huh:
I'm guessing he's referring to the team orders.
Yeah, he is.
However every team uses team order, they just hide it where as Ferrari at least are honest about it.
Hulkenberg is an option but a dangerous one because a few times this year he's showed speed, Ferrari don't want to risk giving him a good car and ending up like Hamilton / Alsonso, however I think it'll be a few years before Hulkenberg is a strong driver.
But Massa is a different case. He's just a tool.
However Ferrari won't get a strong driver. They have never had two great drivers in the seam team, unlike McLaren usually had and Williams back in the day.
Ferrari have Alonso with them, he's their perfect driver as he is strong all over, experience, previous champion, great feedback on the car and works alongside them to develop it.
Massa's role is as bait for the other drivers, however he is SO rubbish he will probably be replaced for next year. Ferrari want Alonso to have a rear gunner. Even though Barrichello played 2nd fiddle, at least he came in second behind Schumacher, where as Massa will always be around midfield rather than on the podium.
Even the brazilians think he's a tool. I'm talking about after his accident, ever since he's been a midfield runner, with the exception of a few races.
Button better than Alonso and Kubica? You're joking.
As said above Massa is a good racer, he had a chance at the championship and unfortunatly lost by 1 point, he was a strong team mate to kimi, his track record is good and over all he is a very consistant racer. If you notice aswel this season Massa has had a fair few issues with the car, various reasons to pit 2 or 3 ever 4 times in a single race, he's had a few punctures this year and other problems with tyres. If i remember rightly i'm sure Ferrari extended his contract to 2012 at the start of the season. I cant see his getting dropped just yet. In my opinion Kubica would be best suited as a team mate with Alonso as they get on with each other off track and are both very strong drivers, kubica also has a lot of respect for other drivers and very rairly bins the car.
I would like to see if Kobiyashi stay at Sauber because he has a lot of tallent for a young driver,
I think the top drivers in the field at the moment are in no order:
Hamilton,
Button,
Alonso,
Webber,
Vettle,
Kubica,
Kobiyashi,
Schumacer
I also think Buemi has a lot of potential for the future and Algushari had some interesting racing this year
vettle didn't win the last race out of luck , he won it cos ferrari fcuked up
So luck?
Button (No world champ, only won because the first half of 2009 Brawn were untouchable).
vettle didn't win the last race out of luck , he won it cos ferrari fcuked up
So luck?
no, not luck.
if you were to put diesel in a petrol car would that be bad luck or would you have fcuked up?
ferrari made a mistake due to miscalculation , luck ( chance ) had nothing to do with it.
if you want to define luck as the result of any combination of circumstances ( good or bad ) then every single thing that ever happens is lucky or unlucky and nothing is ever anyones achievement or fault.
I agree with Khare about Button.
Ferrari actually didnt make a miscalculation, from a defending point of view they made a perfect calculation and managed to keep Alonso out infront of Webber.
Ferrari actually didnt make a miscalculation, from a defending point of view they made a perfect calculation and managed to keep Alonso out infront of Webber.
of course they made a miscalculation.
they looked at webber as the main concern rather than the man who was leading from the start and who was going to get enough points to win the WDC if they finished lower than a certain position.
they've all raced at yas marina before so know how hard it is to overtake but still pulled alonso in to pit and put him behind 3 more cars that had already pitted plus the three cars at the front who could pull away and make up enough time for a free pit stop. That all left webber irrelevant to alonsos championship and alonso in 7th place.
If they'd ignored webber and carried on they'd have finished 4th without having to overtake anyone and alonso would have won the WDC.
seems like a miscalcultion to me.
Yes but you're forgetting that weber had to win it. For that he had 2 mclarens and his teammate to pass. Ferrari should have focused on 5th place which was all they needed.
Yes but you're forgetting that weber had to win it. For that he had 2 mclarens and his teammate to pass. Ferrari should have focused on 5th place which was all they needed.
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:laugh:
Ferrari actually didnt make a miscalculation, from a defending point of view they made a perfect calculation and managed to keep Alonso out infront of Webber.
of course they made a miscalculation.
they looked at webber as the main concern rather than the man who was leading from the start and who was going to get enough points to win the WDC if they finished lower than a certain position.
they've all raced at yas marina before so know how hard it is to overtake but still pulled alonso in to pit and put him behind 3 more cars that had already pitted plus the three cars at the front who could pull away and make up enough time for a free pit stop. That all left webber irrelevant to alonsos championship and alonso in 7th place.
If they'd ignored webber and carried on they'd have finished 4th without having to overtake anyone and alonso would have won the WDC.
seems like a miscalcultion to me.
If you look at the time in the race and look how webbers lap times were and look at where the other drivers were you will notice it was a good calculation by Ferrari, Webber pitted, came out of the pits, set a good few lap times then caught the rest of the pack who needed to pit. Ferrari noticed that webber was fast (which in pit stop terms, Webber would have passed alonso when he pitted) so they pitted Alonso and got him out infront of webber expecting the drivers in front to pit when also realising the faster times that alonso and Webber were producing on new tyres however this wasnt the case as the other drivers remained in there own competition and did not see the need to compete against Alonso or Webber.
Ferrari didnt mis-calculate, from a calculation point of view they did very well keeping Alonso infront of Webber. It was external factors of other drivers pit times that ruined Alonso and Webbers race.
In most races if one driver sets fast lap times on a new set of tyres the other drivers quickly pit and change the tyres. Just after the Alonso/Webber stops you herd various drivers engineers contacting there drivers asking how the tyres were performing
theres a good explination in autosport, some f**king clever people out on the pit wall!
theres a good explination in autosport, some f**king clever people out on the pit wall!
Exactly, it was a well calculated risk taken by Ferrari but unfortunatly for them the tyres came back to other drivers which delayed there pit stops till further in the race and thats what ruined Alonso and Webbers race.
It would have been a miscalculation if Ferrari had calculated the tyre de-grading process over time which over a track that is constantly developing is impossible. No one could have calculated if a tyre would degrade and produce slow lap times then "come back to life" and be able to put in fast times again :undecided:
but anywho, luck of the draw and Vettle won it, if the other teams catch up technically for next year Vettle has no chance! :grin:
On the upside alonso didnt win it :grin:
On the upside alonso didnt win it :grin:
I'll get stick for this but,
I would rather Alonso won than Vettle!
Vettle irritates me, he thinks he's gods gift to earth!
I dont like Alonso but he is a far better driver that Vettle
You will not get stick from me, I cannot stand Vettle.
yayyyyyy! :grin:
small capacity forced induction is the future , F1 is meant to be at the forefront of motoring. V8 engines are a dying breed.
i'll miss the sound they make but thats not the be all and end all of F1 for me.
at least VAG may think again about entering F1 seeing as they excell at small capacity twin charged engines.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88616 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88616)
That is SEXY
It does look awesome, I have been following them quite closely due to them being local to me. Brothers girlfriend works at lotus hoping some freebies will be heading my way. Really think they will be making huge leaps forward due to their engine and transmission changes. Surprised they didn't part company with Trulli though.
It does look awesome, I have been following them quite closely due to them being local to me. Brothers girlfriend works at lotus hoping some freebies will be heading my way. Really think they will be making huge leaps forward due to their engine and transmission changes. Surprised they didn't part company with Trulli though.
Guess it's like Brawn with Barrichello last year though, they need someone very experience to help lead, unlike Sauber next year who are going for a rookie line up. Every team NEEDS an experienced driver to help with R&D and so on.
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Good old Bernie.. Never one to miss a marketing opportunity.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1336679/Bernie-Ecclestone-uses-black-eye-advertise-200k-Hublot-watch.html
'I can understand people wanting to rob me when they are poor and they want some things for the kids with Christmas coming along, but what they did was unnecessary.'
Anyone here planning to go to any races next year? I'm thinking of Silverstone.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88616 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88616)A proper Lotus back in F1, even if it is a rebadged Renault. I worked at RF1 up until a couple of months ago and I had no idea this was on the cards, at least it explains why Proton didn't want this year's Lotus team keeping the name....
That is SEXY
Lotus/Renault definitely seems to have a championship contending car by the looks of that! :cool:
+ look at the cars shape, doesnt look KERS equiped to me!
Think Lotus racing (Team Lotus) may end up backing down, they are already discussing sticking with the green and yellow of this season.
Think Lotus racing (Team Lotus) may end up backing down, they are already discussing sticking with the green and yellow of this season.
whatever happens there will not be 2 black and gold lotus teams next year.
although both cars look good (team lotus looks better) i don't understand how either team can get away with what could be deemed subliminal cigarette advertising.
ferrari got b0ll0cked for thier barcode and were forced to change it and these scream jps as much as that did marlboro.
I hope team lotus win out on this but stick to green and yellow.
Simples JPS is no longer a brand I believe.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9275796.stm
Team Lotus sticking with this year's colours....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9279469.stm
It's not even that, it's the money men who bought them out last year. Remember Gerard Lopez is only in the business to make money and this obviously maximised his profit margin....
YES!
http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/6587318/-DC-To-Replace-Legard-At-BBC- (http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/6587318/-DC-To-Replace-Legard-At-BBC-)
Lotus / Renault exhaust set up, very interesting.
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/articles/f1/renaults-radical-r31-exhaust-system/
Lotus / Renault exhaust set up, very interesting.
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/articles/f1/renaults-radical-r31-exhaust-system/
mclaren have had the same idea apparently
Team Lotus FTW, I know there is no chance but I would love to see them finish ahead of the black and gold renault.Why? It's not the team's fault that the owner's decided to team up with Lotus. And until the court makes their decision there's no knowing who's really in the right....
Hope he makes a speedy recovery - Kubica's one of the best out there. Be interesting to see how Senna goes in a decent car if he gets the seat.
This is the problem with the lack of testing in F1, the drivers need to get their fix doing other events and these things are the result. Hope he makes a speedy recovery but I suspect this has killed any chance of him being WDC this year. Two broken wrists and a broken leg are going to keep him out for a while.
nick
His hand was partially severed, he won't be in an F1 car this year. Such a shame.
Nick
His hand was partially severed, he won't be in an F1 car this year. Such a shame.
Nick
After reading the comments from posters on James Allen's website, it looks like he may be out forever :cry:
http://gallery.ru/watch?a=Cp7-f3er
Not sure how accurate that simulation is. He crashed into a church wall and then re-bounded into the post??
Lotus / Renault exhaust set up, very interesting.
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/articles/f1/renaults-radical-r31-exhaust-system/
mclaren have had the same idea apparently
Mclaren released.
http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/6722119/McLaren-Reveal-The-MP4-26-In-Berlin (http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/6722119/McLaren-Reveal-The-MP4-26-In-Berlin)
Standard exhaust though...
The Lotus sounds pure evil!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9G-j0Fq0ZI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9G-j0Fq0ZI)
He is a better choice than Senna IMO. :smiley:
He is a better choice than Senna IMO. :smiley:
How do you know? From 170 odd GP starts Heidfield has, he's never won a race, and he's been in competitive cars over the years.
Senna had to drive a clown car last year, so we've not seen his full potential in an F1 car. What F1 needs is the oldies to retire (it hurts to say it) but Trulli, Barrichello, Schumacher and Webber should retire.
We need more young daring drivers like Hamilton, Kobayashi and Alguersuari that take risks and push the car to the limits.
He is a better choice than Senna IMO. :smiley:
How do you know? From 170 odd GP starts Heidfield has, he's never won a race, and he's been in competitive cars over the years.
Senna had to drive a clown car last year, so we've not seen his full potential in an F1 car. What F1 needs is the oldies to retire (it hurts to say it) but Trulli, Barrichello, Schumacher and Webber should retire.
We need more young daring drivers like Hamilton, Kobayashi and Alguersuari that take risks and push the car to the limits.
I don't know, hence the IMO.
You obviously know everything there is to know about F1, or at least you like to think you do.
As renault keep pointing out , they want someone with experience who can develop the car. that'll be Heidfeld then.
Didn't Senna get blown away by replacements and team mates a few time last year? I doubt if he didn't pay for his seat at HRT and wasn't called Senna he'd not be in F1.
He is a better choice than Senna IMO. :smiley:
How do you know? From 170 odd GP starts Heidfield has, he's never won a race, and he's been in competitive cars over the years.
Senna had to drive a clown car last year, so we've not seen his full potential in an F1 car. What F1 needs is the oldies to retire (it hurts to say it) but Trulli, Barrichello, Schumacher and Webber should retire.
We need more young daring drivers like Hamilton, Kobayashi and Alguersuari that take risks and push the car to the limits.
I don't know, hence the IMO.
You obviously know everything there is to know about F1, or at least you like to think you do.
He is a better choice than Senna IMO. :smiley:
How do you know? From 170 odd GP starts Heidfield has, he's never won a race, and he's been in competitive cars over the years.
Senna had to drive a clown car last year, so we've not seen his full potential in an F1 car. What F1 needs is the oldies to retire (it hurts to say it) but Trulli, Barrichello, Schumacher and Webber should retire.
We need more young daring drivers like Hamilton, Kobayashi and Alguersuari that take risks and push the car to the limits.
I don't know, hence the IMO.
You obviously know everything there is to know about F1, or at least you like to think you do.
I've been following F1 since I remember. I used to tape every race on video, then watch it 3 or 4 times during the 2 week break.
I like to think I do know my way around F1 :smiley:
And even though Senna did get beaten by his team mates, I know that in a decent car he can perform well.
Just got off the phone with Gerard Lopez and he said that Senna will test for Renault tomorrow, see how it goes then :smiley:
Not a difficult choice at all, it'll come down to who has the biggest bankroll behind them. When Lopez took over at RF1 he stated they were there to race, not to make money but then immediately hired Petrov as Number 2 Driver 'cos of the millions of euros in sponsorship money he brought....Just got off the phone with Gerard Lopez and he said that Senna will test for Renault tomorrow, see how it goes then :smiley:
over 1 second slower than Heidfeld but the conditions were different so not really that conclusive. It's going to be a difficult choice for the Renault boss, for sure (why do f1 drivers add for sure to the end of sentences?)
Not a difficult choice at all, it'll come down to who has the biggest bankroll behind them. When Lopez took over at RF1 he stated they were there to race, not to make money but then immediately hired Petrov as Number 2 Driver 'cos of the millions of euros in sponsorship money he brought....Just got off the phone with Gerard Lopez and he said that Senna will test for Renault tomorrow, see how it goes then :smiley:
over 1 second slower than Heidfeld but the conditions were different so not really that conclusive. It's going to be a difficult choice for the Renault boss, for sure (why do f1 drivers add for sure to the end of sentences?)
Not a difficult choice at all, it'll come down to who has the biggest bankroll behind them. When Lopez took over at RF1 he stated they were there to race, not to make money but then immediately hired Petrov as Number 2 Driver 'cos of the millions of euros in sponsorship money he brought....Just got off the phone with Gerard Lopez and he said that Senna will test for Renault tomorrow, see how it goes then :smiley:
over 1 second slower than Heidfeld but the conditions were different so not really that conclusive. It's going to be a difficult choice for the Renault boss, for sure (why do f1 drivers add for sure to the end of sentences?)
So true. Money talks.
Nope. BBC HD for me!
You might not get the smells and noise but you get the best view and it's free!
Nick
Nope. BBC HD for me!
You might not get the smells and noise but you get the best view and it's free!
Nick
If that's the case then why didn't RF1 hire Heidfeld instead of Petrov? I actually worked at RF1 at the time and Lopez categorically stated that they were there to go racing and needed a solid second driver who would consistently bring in the points. Everyone assumed it would be Heidfeld and then out of the blue they hired Petrov who coincidentally had a huge amount of money behind him from Russian sponsors. Unfortunately in the majority of F1 teams the business side is more important than the racing....
Mrs Horney pays that. :grin:
Nope. BBC HD for me!
You might not get the smells and noise but you get the best view and it's free!
Nick
I think you'll find the TV licence you pay means its not free :tongue:
A little bird just told me that Heidfeld will be Kubica's replacement at Lotus Renault, you heard it here first :wink:
Not been officially confirmed in the media though?A little bird just told me that Heidfeld will be Kubica's replacement at Lotus Renault, you heard it here first :wink:
all of us know this anyway :tongue:
Not been officially confirmed in the media though?A little bird just told me that Heidfeld will be Kubica's replacement at Lotus Renault, you heard it here first :wink:
all of us know this anyway :tongue:
If interesting as a bowl of soup means he consistently brings in points then that's what RF1 wants. Remember the old Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times....http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89513 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89513)
Heidfield confirmed
What are / were they thinking, he is about as interesting as a bowl of soup,
They should have given Senna the chance he would shine in the right car and team.
but it still wouldn't have been 2 rookies in the team would it?, it would have been button and a rookie.
Yes but I still think Senna given the chance would shine
Well, experienced at least :grin:but it still wouldn't have been 2 rookies in the team would it?, it would have been button and a rookie.
Yes but I still think Senna given the chance would shine
well, we'll have to agree to disagree mate :smiley:
I think the highly succesful and experienced renault f1 team might know what they're doing tho'. :wink:
So what happens if Heidfeld's Renault turns out to be awesome and he's in with a good shout for the driver's title when Kubica wants to come back??? :huh:
So what happens if Heidfeld's Renault turns out to be awesome and he's in with a good shout for the driver's title when Kubica wants to come back??? :huh:
I'd be back at the factory with the engineers developing the 2012 car.
heidfeild doesnt really have much of a chance of being near the top of the table to be honest, he's a good driver just lacks the competitive edge the better drivers have.
If he was in the game for winning they would possibly swap petrov for kubica if petrov wasnt in with a good shout on the top teams. But saying that if petrov was doing well it would surprise me to see them suspend kubica's return.
I think kubica will be back, miss a few races but he'll not be out long. He knows the cabability of the team this year and if he has a chance at a title i can imagine he'll be doing everything to hurry up his recovery, all surgery has been a success so who knows!
heidfeild doesnt really have much of a chance of being near the top of the table to be honest, he's a good driver just lacks the competitive edge the better drivers have.
If he was in the game for winning they would possibly swap petrov for kubica if petrov wasnt in with a good shout on the top teams. But saying that if petrov was doing well it would surprise me to see them suspend kubica's return.
I think kubica will be back, miss a few races but he'll not be out long. He knows the cabability of the team this year and if he has a chance at a title i can imagine he'll be doing everything to hurry up his recovery, all surgery has been a success so who knows!
the man had a partially severed right hand. His surgery was the easy part.
his nerves and tendons will be shortend , god knows by how much. It doesn't matter how fit or strong willed you are or how good your treatment is , they take a long time to repair if they ever can fully repair. once they are better (months and months at least) he'll then have to rebuild the strength in his forearm. This is not to mention all his other injuries,
To drive again in F1 he has to be able to use fine motor skills like you picking up a pencil and rolling it between your finger and thumb but while doing 200mph in a vibrating machine and under huge G forces..
I really doubt he'll be back in F1 before next season at best.
If he does get the all clear, the simulators will tell the team most of what they will want to know before they let him anywhere near a real car.
As for them using Heidfeld, its a no-brainer, he finishes races and has done so consistently throughout his career whilst doing masses of development work for a number of teams which effectively makes him priceless compared to Fau-Senna when you consider that Renault are a shadow of the "team" that won with Alonso (Briatori and co might have been dirty buggers but they knew how to win with a good driver and decent budget).
I notice no-one has mentioned the rioting in Bahrain at the moment......
Whenever it starts...seeing as theres now doubts over the season opener in Bahrain, on account of them all having a bit of a falling out over there
i think testing will be in adu dhabi this week and i wouldn't be suprised if they race there too.
It's a short boat / plane ride away but in the most stable country in the area.
i think testing will be in adu dhabi this week and i wouldn't be suprised if they race there too.
It's a short boat / plane ride away but in the most stable country in the area.
I dont have a clue what the season will bring as the testing isnt giving anything away :undecided: A Williams was the quickest in one of the tests by over a second!?
Whats the preditions then? Could be interesting to look back mid season and at the end to see who was right and whos completely wrong lol
My top 5 prediction is:
1. Alonso
2. Hamilton
3. Webber
4. Vettle
5. Button (or mabey Massa)
I also think Schumacer could be in for a good shout this season as i still think Ross Braun + Schumacer + Mercades is an absolute dream set up.
If kubica manages to get back early enogh if everything goes well i could imagine him being a top 5 finisher as well
Khare Bear you said Alfonso would win last year... :evil:
I am thinking Red Bull again :smiley:
Khare Bear you said Alfonso would win last year... :evil:
I am thinking Red Bull again :smiley:
I did, and I wasn't far!
To be fair, he would have won it had the stupid Ferrari strategist got it right!
This year though....You wait and see! :cool:
I think it will be Alonso's year as well, cannot see Ferrari being happy if they fail again.
Hopefully this will be Hamiltons year, or anyone except Alonso.+1 that mardy little turd annoys the hell out of me. Laughed my head off at him shaking his fist at Petrov at the end of last season :grin:
Yes please!
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89706 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89706)
They really need a crossover point on the circuit - let's see who has the biggest balls! Bet Kobayashi would never slow down... :grin: :grin: :grin:
Or how's about random traffic lights - go through a red light and you'll get a 30-minute penalty :laugh:
Formula One 2011: team principal Christian Horner hints at McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton joining Red Bull
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/8381953/Formula-One-2011-team-principal-Christian-Horner-hints-at-McLaren-driver-Lewis-Hamilton-joining-Red-Bull.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/8381953/Formula-One-2011-team-principal-Christian-Horner-hints-at-McLaren-driver-Lewis-Hamilton-joining-Red-Bull.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Don't see it ever happening, I think he will always be a one team driver even if it looks like they have made another dog this year.
Formula One 2011: team principal Christian Horner hints at McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton joining Red Bull
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/8381953/Formula-One-2011-team-principal-Christian-Horner-hints-at-McLaren-driver-Lewis-Hamilton-joining-Red-Bull.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/8381953/Formula-One-2011-team-principal-Christian-Horner-hints-at-McLaren-driver-Lewis-Hamilton-joining-Red-Bull.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Don't see it ever happening, I think he will always be a one team driver even if it looks like they have made another dog this year.
+1, Hamilton himself has stated in the past that he doesn't think he'll ever move team as he finds McLaren his home.
Formula One 2011: team principal Christian Horner hints at McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton joining Red Bull
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/8381953/Formula-One-2011-team-principal-Christian-Horner-hints-at-McLaren-driver-Lewis-Hamilton-joining-Red-Bull.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/8381953/Formula-One-2011-team-principal-Christian-Horner-hints-at-McLaren-driver-Lewis-Hamilton-joining-Red-Bull.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Don't see it ever happening, I think he will always be a one team driver even if it looks like they have made another dog this year.
+1, Hamilton himself has stated in the past that he doesn't think he'll ever move team as he finds McLaren his home.
Er would you announce in the global press that you were considering changing jobs? I think not! He can say that till he's blue in the face but everyone in the paddock knows if a good offer with a good car comes up at the right time he'll jump ship. There's no such thing as a loyal F1 driver.
Nick
I don't think for one minute that Lewis would leave Mclaren by choice as has been said its the team that have invested a lot of time and money in his career. I think its great that there are 2 British Drivers in a British team lets hope they have a good season this year
I think Heidfield would be a pretty decent driver for that. He's fast, but he's not the fastest. Give him a Ferrari and he'll pick up lots of top 5 places while Alonso sweeps up the podium.
I think Heidfield would be a pretty decent driver for that. He's fast, but he's not the fastest. Give him a Ferrari and he'll pick up lots of top 5 places while Alonso sweeps up the podium.
No chance would Heidfeild get a seat at Ferrari!
He would really have to do something spectacular this season to even think about that, his F1 racing career was almost over till Kubica's accident.
that was a pretty cold day in melbourne :sad:
well done Jenson , fastest in practice , lewis 2nd :cool:
maybe not a two team race after all.
the renault definatley sounds different to the others too , especially when they lift off the power . it almost chatters.
that was a pretty cold day in melbourne :sad:
well done Jenson , fastest in practice , lewis 2nd :cool:
maybe not a two team race after all.
Mclaren said they had some sneaky upgrades to the car before testing so hopefully this is proof they work!
Hope the Mclaren stays there this season!
the renault definatley sounds different to the others too , especially when they lift off the power . it almost chatters.
It always has done, same as McLaren. They sound absolutely awesome don't they? BMW used to sound the best when it was around, they had a completely different tone to anyone else.
the renault definatley sounds different to the others too , especially when they lift off the power . it almost chatters.
It always has done, same as McLaren. They sound absolutely awesome don't they? BMW used to sound the best when it was around, they had a completely different tone to anyone else.
That noise is because there feeding the diffuser both on power, and when they lift using a special throttle map setting.
Very disapointed with the performance of the renault, and the lotus. Virgin looking very off the pace too.
Anyone else getting annoyed with how Coulthard says 'Vettel'?! :angry:
Strategically we elected to not use KERS in the qualifying – it was a team decision
The KERS system is a good idea in my opinion and i think it will boost overtaking it'll give drives more confidence to make the move rather than waiting 10laps for the driver infront to make a mistake. It definitely needs more power thou!!
Where? I dont actually see any benefit in them not having a full system since they are all limited to the same weight and they are all fixed into a single weight distribution (+/- a smaaaaallll percentage) so any weight saved cant really be repositioned to gain a better car balance. Also the gains in terms of C of G are likely to be bugger all as well if they are using a lighter system to get balast down low, assuming they could even find space to get it low without lifting other heavy components. Interesting, but probably subterfuge though I stand to be corrected.
Where? I dont actually see any benefit in them not having a full system since they are all limited to the same weight and they are all fixed into a single weight distribution (+/- a smaaaaallll percentage) so any weight saved cant really be repositioned to gain a better car balance. Also the gains in terms of C of G are likely to be bugger all as well if they are using a lighter system to get balast down low, assuming they could even find space to get it low without lifting other heavy components. Interesting, but probably subterfuge though I stand to be corrected.The KERS system is a good idea in my opinion and i think it will boost overtaking it'll give drives more confidence to make the move rather than waiting 10laps for the driver infront to make a mistake. It definitely needs more power thou!!
Afraid I have to completely dissagree with this, if everyone has it, it makes no difference hence part of the reason for them dropping it last time.
Look at it this way, the guy behind cant get close to you through corners due to the drop in downforce he expereinces due to your dirty air. This being the case, the only time he can gain is as soon as he is running straight or isnt traction limited. If he then hits the Kers button, you see him gaining and press it too. Bearing in mind that you have got off the corner faster than the guy behind you due to his loss of grip and not being able to put the power down as early as you can, you cant fail to negate any advantage he might have gained before you noticed him pressing the button. Add in the fact that, by the time you have noticed him gaining he has run out of Kers power due to the pathetic power storage limits, if you press the Kers button now, you can in all probability hold the guy off despite the fact that drag increases with the square of speed and your rate of acceleration from the extra power boost will not be as high as his was momentarily. Its all pretty simply proved with a bit of maths. If some have it and some dont then thats a bit different but the fact they are power limited and all have it makes it a complete nonesense.
They're not fixed to single weight distribution, it can be distributed to anywhere in the car.
Out of a corner the car infront yes will have better traction so KERS will NOT help the driver behind close the gap for another run onto the next straight or corner.
Sutil gave a good example of how not to use the movable rear wing in qualifying... :shocked:
Sutil gave a good example of how not to use the movable rear wing in qualifying... :shocked:
Out of a corner the car infront yes will have better traction so KERS will NOT help the driver behind close the gap for another run onto the next straight or corner.
I have corrected that for you lol. As I say, the guy in front can get on the throttle earlier AND carry more speed onto a straight due to better front and rear grip. Assuming he has seen the guy behind comming and hasnt already spent his kers allowance for the lap he has more than enough room to counter the attack and block it off. I think the cases you mention were probably between Kers and non-Kers cars but my memory just isnt nearly that good, I certainly cant remember many people equiped with Kers repeatedly overtaking other Kers equiped cars though I can distinctly remember people without it being baulked repeatedly and very easily with perhaps only kobayashi and the brawns ever managing to do a Kers car but as I say, I dont really remember too clearly :smiley:.
I am wondering what was up with Webber or were Redbull being dirty.
I am wondering what was up with Webber or were Redbull being dirty.
Christian Horner didn't seem very impressed with his drive both in quali and his race pace.
.... I hope lewis doesn't get penalised for his plank,
I like the Brundle/Coulthard double act on commentry - seems to work well.
However, I can guarantee that Brundle will say these phrases almost every weekend:
1) "(insert driver's name) is absolutely FLYING!"
2) "He's absolutely MIGHTY through there"
3) "That's straight to the scene of the accident"
He didn't say the 3rd one today but only because there weren't any accidents... :laugh:
4) i remember crashing there in 87 :grin:
The Sauber team is looking a good team for the future now, they have the drivers now they just need the car! Perez debut was great! Same with Di Resta! Very impressive by the both f them, that is the sort of tallent F1 should be promoting!
I still have to argue the point that Button was assisted by DSR and KERS in his pass on Massa, Massa had used his KERS trying to pull out an advantage on Button to stop him being able to use the DSR, by that time Massa had played his strategie that failed allowing Buttons strategie to succeseed in assist of DSR and KERS. In Malyasia We'll get a far better view on the DSR and KERS systems working together if they put the DSR zone in the right place, i'm hoping its the pit straight or the final straight of the track as the final straight has always been a good place to overtake and with the aid of KERS and DSR the pit straight fight could be very interesting! I think the race is looking promising :smiley:
I dont have a clue how Red Bull have actually developed a car this fast, the technical spec behind it will be very interesting when it all comes out :smiley:
I dont have a clue how Red Bull have actually developed a car this fast, the technical spec behind it will be very interesting when it all comes out :smiley:
I dont have a clue how Red Bull have actually developed a car this fast, the technical spec behind it will be very interesting when it all comes out :smiley:
Simple really, something is not legal in someway, I think sooner or later somebody will work it out.
Red Bull have Adrian Newey. Simples
I dont have a clue how Red Bull have actually developed a car this fast, the technical spec behind it will be very interesting when it all comes out :smiley:
Simple really, something is not legal in someway, I think sooner or later somebody will work it out.
I dont have a clue how Red Bull have actually developed a car this fast, the technical spec behind it will be very interesting when it all comes out :smiley:
Simple really, something is not legal in someway, I think sooner or later somebody will work it out.
Not neccessarily. The double diffused wasnt illegal when it was introduced, it could just be a new development within the team? I do have to say the speed it seems to have looks as if there is a rabbit off somewhere.
+1I dont have a clue how Red Bull have actually developed a car this fast, the technical spec behind it will be very interesting when it all comes out :smiley:
Simple really, something is not legal in someway, I think sooner or later somebody will work it out.
Not neccessarily. The double diffused wasnt illegal when it was introduced, it could just be a new development within the team? I do have to say the speed it seems to have looks as if there is a rabbit off somewhere.
They have flexible wings. That's what makes them so fast. There are many theories as to what is going on with the wing, how it's built, etc.
The one I think is the ACTUAL reason is the way they lay the carbon fibre layers on the wing. It's done in such way that they'll be solid straight when at low speed/being tested (I think it's only 150kg it's tested with) and when it gets enough downforce put across it, it'll flex. Remember that the wings are subjected to 450kg+ at speed, so of course it'll pass the FIA test with only 150kg. Just because it passes a test doesn't make it legal.
And I'm tired of hearing people say "ooooo Vettel is the best driver out there!". No he's not! Hamilton and Alonso are the best in F1 at the moment. Vettel JUST won the title with a FAR superior car than the rest. If Hamilton or Alonso had the same car last year they would have won the title half way through the season, the same way as Button with Brawn. He had a cracking first half of the season then when other teams brought out their double diffusers suddenly Button only won I think 1 or 2 races in the second half, but won the title because the Brawn was untouchable in the first half. The problem with Red Bull is that no one knows how they're doing the front wing business, so no other team has brought their own flexi front wing.
There was another theory that last year's RB had a flexi front nose, and that they had a discreet driver operated movable front wing (operated by the legs), but I don't believe them theories as much, I stand by the way the carbon is arranged.
problem is, everyone accepts its flexing; thats not the issue. The issue is proving it. I think Mclaren are on about overlooking the FIA and going to the motorsport council as the FIA test is not fit for purpose (as it doesnt not pick up on this flex). Rules clearly state no part is allowed to flex...yet its quite clearly flexing...it is clever, but in my opinion cheating.
theres a good quote in that autosport forum thread
'Newey designs cars that force regulation changes'
brilliant mind and fair play to the team
theres a good quote in that autosport forum thread
'Newey designs cars that force regulation changes'
brilliant mind and fair play to the team
This is not fair play at all. If all teams were to analys the rules and load testings the cars will go under the cars would be developed in completely different ways! The sport is about racing and to create a good race there are rules to enforce no team can gain an unfair advantage. If teams were allowed to develop with no rules the sport wouldnt be about racing it would just be about developing the most powerful and efficient car, the drivers would have little or no envolvment in the sport at all
There is a difference.
Take for example the McLaren F-Duct. That was pushing the boundaries exploiting a "loop hole". There was no rule anywhere saying the flow of air to the back wing could not be prevented by a driver operation.
However take the redbull wing/nose. Yes clever design etc etc. But there IS a rule that quite clearly says that no part of the car is allowed to flex.
Now IMO that is cheating and goes against fair play. A team should not go out and try to deliberately break a rule and then get away with it because they have found away to pass a test! I think McLaren are correct in taking it further then the FIA if they do end up doing that.
There is a clear difference between an innovative design like the F-Duct, the Renault exhaust etc that is within the rules but exploit a loophole than a design that you know breaks the rules but you go ahead and do it anyway by devising a way to pass a test.
Like i said when Heidfeild was decided on, HE IS TERRIBLE AT QUALIFYING!!!!!
He's definitely not the right person to be in the seat at Renault.
It's been confirmed Red Bull have a KERS different to everyone else, and it only works at the start line.
very good race, jenson was quite good compared to his cry baby team mate :smug:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90614 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90614)
Very unfair if you ask me :undecided: Why can't racing be racing like the old days, it's becoming artificial now :rolleyes:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90614 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90614)
Very unfair if you ask me :undecided: Why can't racing be racing like the old days, it's becoming artificial now :rolleyes:
Hamilton fault as he moved his car twice to defend. Rules say you can defend/block only once buy good news Alonso retains his 6th position
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90614 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90614)
Very unfair if you ask me :undecided: Why can't racing be racing like the old days, it's becoming artificial now :rolleyes:
Hamilton fault as he moved his car twice to defend. Rules say you can defend/block only once buy good news Alonso retains his 6th position
I know, but I find that one move rule unfair as well. I'm not saying drivers should weave all over the track but I think 2 or even 3 moves should be allowed...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90614 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90614)
Very unfair if you ask me :undecided: Why can't racing be racing like the old days, it's becoming artificial now :rolleyes:
Hamilton fault as he moved his car twice to defend. Rules say you can defend/block only once buy good news Alonso retains his 6th position
I know, but I find that one move rule unfair as well. I'm not saying drivers should weave all over the track but I think 2 or even 3 moves should be allowed...
3 moves, sometimes at 180 mph :grin: :laugh: aye alright,
just look what happened to Alonso today, you imagine the disturbed wind etc from a car doing anything over 100mph, and the subsequent carnage of a car moving 3 times at such speeds.
LONG gone are the days of real racing etc in F1, and they will never return.
Wanna see proper racing - BTCC and WTCC. Full contact FTW :grin: :laugh:
i hate the one move rule, the worlds "top drivers" should be capable of unlimited moves to try and pass a or defend from another driver. It should always be an educated and calculated risk the drivers take and decided and that will come with experience in racing. Young champions are given a far simpler job now than what Schumacer and Barrachello were brought into racing with.
F1 will always be my favorite sport but unfortunately H&S are stepping too far into the "pinical of motor sport" the lesser leagues in some cases have far fewer restrictions which is mad!
i hate the one move rule, the worlds "top drivers" should be capable of unlimited moves to try and pass a or defend from another driver. It should always be an educated and calculated risk the drivers take and decided and that will come with experience in racing. Young champions are given a far simpler job now than what Schumacer and Barrachello were brought into racing with.
F1 will always be my favorite sport but unfortunately H&S are stepping too far into the "pinical of motor sport" the lesser leagues in some cases have far fewer restrictions which is mad!
Agreed completely. If they could constantly defend it could make it a huge difference. Such as a car that could be doing poorly on the track for various reasons could remain 6th by continuous defending. This to me would be far more interesting and show more of the drivers skill and competence on the track IMO
So?? Motorsport is not safe. If you want to remain safe play chess.
Red Bull & Vettel are boring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
i hate the one move rule, the worlds "top drivers" should be capable of unlimited moves to try and pass a or defend from another driver. It should always be an educated and calculated risk the drivers take and decided and that will come with experience in racing. Young champions are given a far simpler job now than what Schumacer and Barrachello were brought into racing with.
F1 will always be my favorite sport but unfortunately H&S are stepping too far into the "pinical of motor sport" the lesser leagues in some cases have far fewer restrictions which is mad!
Agreed completely. If they could constantly defend it could make it a huge difference. Such as a car that could be doing poorly on the track for various reasons could remain 6th by continuous defending. This to me would be far more interesting and show more of the drivers skill and competence on the track IMO
and more accidents, remember webber flyin upside down last year :shocked:
I don't think we want to see more accidents in f1. More accidents mean more chances of people getting killed and that's the last thing we need. I personally don't want to see any drivers killed just to spice up the racing.
I first started watching F1 back in 1990 for the spectacular crashes. Even in 1990 the sport had undergone a revolution in terms of safety.
1970 to 1979 12 drivers and 1 marshall were killed.
In 1980 to 1989 there were 4 deaths.
In 1990 to 1999 only 2 deaths.
This is only F1. Henry Surtees died last year in a junior formula series.
All I'm saying is that there are plenty more ways of making racing exciting and the Malaysian GP just proves that the degradation of the tyres are crucial to that. If all drivers were like Kamui Kobyashi then it would be fantastic. The way he diced with Webber and then Schumacher was mighty fun to watch.
Red Bull & Vettel are boring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
how can you say such a stupid thing when noone can get near him to challenge him?
Easy when they are running a front wing that is outside the rules or should not be running that low to the ground.
Red Bull’s wing has indeed passed every test put in front of it and the fact that the sniping continues is indicative of the fact that no one else yet managed to copy them. Until they do, Red Bull’s domination is likely to continue.
I think vettel is a great driver and champion worthy in the future, not yet now however. Seeing him driving with your own eyes is great, he opens the taps before anyone else exiting a corner.
I don't think we want to see more accidents in f1. More accidents mean more chances of people getting killed and that's the last thing we need. I personally don't want to see any drivers killed just to spice up the racing.
I first started watching F1 back in 1990 for the spectacular crashes. Even in 1990 the sport had undergone a revolution in terms of safety.
1970 to 1979 12 drivers and 1 marshall were killed.
In 1980 to 1989 there were 4 deaths.
In 1990 to 1999 only 2 deaths.
This is only F1. Henry Surtees died last year in a junior formula series.
All I'm saying is that there are plenty more ways of making racing exciting and the Malaysian GP just proves that the degradation of the tyres are crucial to that. If all drivers were like Kamui Kobyashi then it would be fantastic. The way he diced with Webber and then Schumacher was mighty fun to watch.
We are not talking about people dying, we are saying allow multiple movements, allow touches and hustling for positions, don't penalise for what was a simple obvious movement which didn't put any extra pressure on Alonso that induced his crash, Alonso got it wrong...
it took schumacher from 1991 to 1994 to win a championship with Benetton.
it took schumacher from 1996 to 2000 to win a championship with ferrari.
based on past performance schumacher should win the championship around 2013
Only at the last hurdle after an on/off championship. McLaren only lost because of infighting and a software glitch. Still, World Champ he was. Couldn't be 4rsed after that! :laugh:
Looking food for tomorrow. Button seems to be out performing Hamilton so far this year. And there was everyone saying he was rubbish!
Nick
I'm not sure Webber's done himself any favours today... :lipsrsealed:
well without giving nothing away, its definatly worth a watch later, good stuff
Jenson had a bit of a shocker today but useful points nonetheless. Awesome, awesome race. Webber is my driver of the day followed by Hamilton.
Nick
Jenson had a bit of a shocker today but useful points nonetheless. Awesome, awesome race. Webber is my driver of the day followed by Hamilton.
Nick
Cmon Nick, I know Webber had a good race, but the tyres helped him out there, Lewis worked so much more harder for that win....Outstanding overtaking!
i do prefer it when Eddie Jordan isn't involved, what a tool that man is.+1
http://mccabism.blogspot.com/2011/05/red-bulls-front-wing-cables.html
:undecided:
good old BBC slammed Qualifying onto BBC2 so Sky+ hasnt picked it up. :rolleyes:
So if your aint watching it live, you will miss it :laugh:
"magic paddle"
"magic paddle"
Woops :grin:
Still sounds good to me!
I love the sound of the "magic paddel" in the Mercades, wonder what this could be? Seems to work!
I loved the comment Brundle made. Coulthard said its as if he doesnt know when to give up (as in he should have just let Petrov through) and Brundle said "What do you mean? As in his career?
:D :D :D
He said something along the lines of "it was fcuking horrible".
Interesting view from Ferrari. :smiley:
Di Montezemolo was also scathing of the current state of F1 suggesting that new rules had made grand prix racing not as pure as it was in the past.
"We have gone too far with artificial elements. It's like, if I push footballers to wear tennis shoes in the rain. To have so many pitstops - listen, I want to see competition, I want to see cars on the track. I don't want to see competition in the pits," he explained.
"In the last race there were 80 pitstops. Come on, it's too much. And the people don't understand anymore because when you come out of the pits you don't know what position you're in.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91349
Interesting view from Ferrari. :smiley:
Di Montezemolo was also scathing of the current state of F1 – suggesting that new rules had made grand prix racing not as pure as it was in the past.
"We have gone too far with artificial elements. It's like, if I push footballers to wear tennis shoes in the rain. To have so many pitstops - listen, I want to see competition, I want to see cars on the track. I don't want to see competition in the pits," he explained.
"In the last race there were 80 pitstops. Come on, it's too much. And the people don't understand anymore because when you come out of the pits you don't know what position you're in.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91349
Only moaning because they're not winning. F1 hasn't been this good for the viewer since the 80s!
Looks like blown diffusers are being banned!
between this and massa, has hamilton missed his chance by sitting in the pitlane for 5minutes?
whether your a hamilton fan or not; the only chance of an interesting race and vettel not storming away into the lead has gone now hamilton hasn't qualified at the front. I'd be happy to be proved wrong but carnt see it. No places to overtake and the tyres arnt degrading here.
Really dissapointed with quali. Was expecting a close fight with hamilton/vettel and i reckon hamilton may have been able to get very close if not edge it.
One saving grace for lewis is that he can choose which tyres he starts on, and i hope he goes with the primes. He can choose because his lap time got deleted for cutting the chicane, and he only set that one time. So he will start 9th.
Hope perez recovers OK
Funny how Torro Red Bull Rosso cause an accident just as Vettel's tyres are about to fall off. Race ruined.
one of best monaco grand prixs in a long time, going to be a very interesting re-start hopefully jenson can nail this one
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can agree with that one the races keep getting better than better!
Not really. Completely avoidable accident at low speed on the exact lap that Vettel was going to be a sitting duck for Alonso.
If you think F1 is void of corruption then you're naive.
Not really. Completely avoidable accident at low speed on the exact lap that Vettel was going to be a sitting duck for Alonso.
If you think F1 is void of corruption then you're naive.
lewis should have stayed in bed :laugh: :grin:
Anyone just see Hamilton's interview on the F1 Forum? :shocked: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Hamilton "Perhaps its because I'm black", joke or not that won't go down well :lipsrsealed:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9499975.stm
(find the hamilton interview at the bottom !)
I think its quite funny and he has a few valid points..
Hamilton "Perhaps its because I'm black"
hamiltons losing it the fame gone to his head. them pass were never there and then he blames the other driver
just watched this as I had recorded it... really pissed off about that incident 10 laps before the end.. was going to be an epic end to the race :angry:You watched Lewis' interview on iplayer? funny as fook! :grin:
just watched this as I had recorded it... really pissed off about that incident 10 laps before the end.. was going to be an epic end to the race :angry:You watched Lewis' interview on iplayer? funny as fook! :grin:
just watched this as I had recorded it... really pissed off about that incident 10 laps before the end.. was going to be an epic end to the race :angry:You watched Lewis' interview on iplayer? funny as fook! :grin:
just watched it... ooops Lewis throwing his toys out of his pram :grin:
I like him but I am finding him to be a right mardy arse, Im supporting Button more and more lately.+1, the difference between them though is if you stick Button in the perfect car he WILL win races but if it's not 100% then he just can't be arsed, whereas Lewis will drive the wheels off whatever he's given! Even if he does knock other peoples wheels off in the process! :evil:
That said, he is making it interesting, I like his driving style more than Buttons.
Lewis is a better driver than Jenson. FACT.
He looks like Mr baked potato head.
He wants to shave off that silly beard for a start. He looks like Mr baked potato head.
lewis needs a race ban otherwise hes allways gonna be ruthless + taking too meany risks, and this is coming for a hamliton fan! think that last crash was both lewis and Jensen fault
pisses me off they only use vettels radio transmission :rolleyes:
but Schui is saying game on, lets race :lipsrsealed:
Still, gives me 20 mins to cook dinner before it re-starts :cool:
Nick
Still, gives me 20 mins to cook dinner before it re-starts :cool:
Nick
+1 :grin:
Still a pain in the arse though....what if the rain continues for another hour or so?
sure the 2 wheelers ran at silverstone today :rolleyes: in the wet :lipsrsealed:
That guy trying to clear the water off is the track is completely missing al the apexs :rolleyes:
Amateur.
To be fair the rain there is on a diffrent scale to Silverstone and bikes can just go slower. F1 cars don't work when you go slow and have cold tyres.
To be fair the rain there is on a diffrent scale to Silverstone and bikes can just go slower. F1 cars don't work when you go slow and have cold tyres.
looks like its going to be canoe racing soon :rolleyes:
perhaps they should design and all weather car then . . . . . . . . . .
Yep, what Nick said.
Dont get me started on the drive home Chuff. When are we doing an event in London?
Yep, what Nick said.
Dont get me started on the drive home Chuff. When are we doing an event in London?
m25 looked good :grin: should have been on it with the nicked scooby drift car satdee, it was clear :kiss:
and loving the swinging mclaren on he tow truck , :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
and yeah, design it build it, whatever it takes, this just makes f1 look stupid IMHO
you guys see the marshal fall in qualifying its at 0;40 of this vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrzxfACt-9k
Exhaust tech banned: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/13739621.stm
this isnt going to go again . . . . . . could be worse, could be my mate whose gone out there to watch it :laugh: :grin:
I fell asleep.. What have I missed? :grin:
A giant finger came out of the sky and poked Vettel in the face. He started crying so the race was stopped.
A giant finger came out of the sky and poked Vettel in the face. He started crying so the race was stopped.
Hamilton's missus is going to go BALLISTIC when she finds out he's been flirting with Rihanna!
Hamilton's missus is going to go BALLISTIC when she finds out he's been flirting with Rihanna!
Hamilton's missus is going to go BALLISTIC when she finds out he's been flirting with Rihanna!
Hamilton's missus is going to go BALLISTIC when she finds out he's been flirting with Rihanna!
gotta love this,
multi million pound sport
exactly the same water clearance tools as the lads at the dodgems had friday
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fell asleep about 10 mins after the red flag I just woke up and havent missed alot
Time for some food a beer or 5 and might catch the end of the race tomorrow morning
Hamilton's missus is going to go BALLISTIC when she finds out he's been flirting with Rihanna!
Can't blame him though, I'd smash it.
i refer you to my earlier comments, he is under review later :lipsrsealed:
Fantastic last 15-20 minutes :cool:
i refer you to my earlier comments, he is under review later :lipsrsealed:
What for?? :huh:
AWESOME STUFF !!
Without trying to sound like an idiot how funny was the man falling over :D :D :D
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Girl first row, 3rd in from right. I went to school with her... :shocked:
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Girl first row, 3rd in from right. I went to school with her... :shocked:
she is button's girlfriend from japan :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You obviously never went to school then. :lipsrsealed:she is button's girlfriend from japan :rolleyes: :rolleyes:(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/254970_10150279611576413_12254981412_9549967_8279850_n.jpg)Girl first row, 3rd in from right. I went to school with her... :shocked:
she is button's girlfriend from japan :rolleyes: :rolleyes:that's the left; try starting on the right hand side of the pic :wink:
alan where did you get this pic from mate, an as regarding hamilton i think he is just trying to hard and trying to be the number one driver all the time
wish i could afford to go to british gp this year price are so dam dear especial when you got to buy two tickets as i would have to take my lad with me :angry:
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Girl first row, 3rd in from right. I went to school with her... :shocked:
she is button's girlfriend from japan :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
that's the left; try starting on the right hand side of the pic :wink:
AWESOME STUFF !!
Without trying to sound like an idiot how funny was the man falling over :D :D :D
Funny but close to fatal. Can't believe he fell over twice though! lol
alan how much you looking at mate in total inc flights an that mate
alan how much you looking at mate in total inc flights an that mate
No sure yet, not even looked into yet as its miles away still. My uncle who lives in Spain was trying to get me to go to the European GP (Valencia) and said he found deals at 250 which was race tickets and 2 nights hotel so you would need to add flights and spending money on top of that. Seemed quite reasonable to me when you look how much it cost to go to Silverstone.
Barca is a lovely city so there is more to do there than just the GP which is the main reason for choosing Barca over any other European GP destination. Plus I speak Spanish so that makes life easier :D
So...who's off to Silverstone then?
I can't wait! It will be my first live F1 race!
11th time to the british this weekend, boss chucked me 4 tickets and his M5 for the weekend, cant wait......
11th time to the british this weekend, boss chucked me 4 tickets and his M5 for the weekend, cant wait......
I don't like you.
11th time to the british this weekend, boss chucked me 4 tickets and his M5 for the weekend, cant wait......
11th time to the british this weekend, boss chucked me 4 tickets and his M5 for the weekend, cant wait......
11th time to the british this weekend, boss chucked me 4 tickets and his M5 for the weekend, cant wait......
I don't like you.
Pictures Monday boys..... 47 New Clients and over £500k+ profit last year, also sorted him out with 8 Glasto tickets as he could not get any, swings and round abouts...
Should be interesting to see how the Renault story goes on. Nowt like a Frenchie with a grievance!
A dump valve will be essential and not for the noise!
It's all kicking off on the reg changes. Redbull and other renault powered cars allowed 50% open throttle to cold blow the diffuser, eveyone else capped at 10% as they hot blow. Looks like Vettle will be even further in front than before!!!!
Nick
lewis is quality to watch and exciting unlike massa the mobile chicane , lewis could win this
what a let down for Jenson :angry:
what a let down for Jenson :angry:
Yep and now Lewis being told to save fuel..............
dunno whats worse... button being out, Hamilton having to save fuel or Alfonso/Vettel winning :angry:
funkin red bull team orders :angry:
good race to watch... shame about button athough not his fault. both lewis and jenson drove really well...
the highlights for me were the lewis move on alonso.... and then fcuking massa over right at the end!!! class!!
guy, great shots, where were you on the circuit when you took them?
guy, great shots, where were you on the circuit when you took them?
Cheers man.. Farm curve next to the pit exit for the earlier ones in final practice, then becketts for quali. Finally vale for the GP2. :)
guy, great shots, where were you on the circuit when you took them?
Cheers man.. Farm curve next to the pit exit for the earlier ones in final practice, then becketts for quali. Finally vale for the GP2. :)
+1 great pictures Guy!
those pics aren't poopy at all fella :cool:
those pics aren't poopy at all fella :cool:
cheers fella yours look so much crisper tho
i was having a mare with the fencing had to put it on manual focus as it kept focusing on the fence on auto
guy, great shots, where were you on the circuit when you took them?
Cheers man.. Farm curve next to the pit exit for the earlier ones in final practice, then becketts for quali. Finally vale for the GP2. :)
+1 great pictures Guy!
:smiley:
if anyone wants to identify the drivers in the pictures I haven't identified then please shout
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guy, great shots, where were you on the circuit when you took them?
Cheers man.. Farm curve next to the pit exit for the earlier ones in final practice, then becketts for quali. Finally vale for the GP2. :)
+1 great pictures Guy!
:smiley:
if anyone wants to identify the drivers in the pictures I haven't identified then please shout
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Was a good race for once :smiley:
Was a good race for once :smiley:
To be fair I think most of the races have been good with the exception of Valencia. Hopefully things will be a little more mixed up for the remainder of the season was good to see Webber finish ahead of Vettel.
Barney Francis, managing director of Sky Sports, said: "This is fantastic news for F1 fans and Sky Sports will be the only place to follow every race live and in HD.
"We will give F1 the full Sky Sports treatment with a commitment to each race never seen before on UK television
Are we all moving to ITV4 for the BTCC and Dave for the WRC then? :laugh:
Horney,DH et al should start a Youtube channel so we can watch them racing instead. Doesn't have the glamour of F1 obviously, but they're cheap.
Yeah, wen't pleased with this news at all.
BBC have seriously screwed up over this one, undoing all the great work they have done makign thier coverage so good.
One less reason to pay the license fee now.....
According to the internet, SKY will not be running adverts during the race. Martin Brundle says on Twitter that he only found out last night. He is out of contract at that time and is "not impressed" about the whole thing.
The Team owners want "clarification", but the feeling is that if the drop in audiance numbers is replaced by them getting more money from Sky, they won't care.
Whitmarsh is now saying that Bernie has assured him the BBC will be showing all the races in full but half will be delayed and not live. That could be OK.not really as on the delayed ones your bound to hear who won the race etc before you watch it.i hate that
Nick
Whitmarsh is now saying that Bernie has assured him the BBC will be showing all the races in full but half will be delayed and not live. That could be OK.not really as on the delayed ones your bound to hear who won the race etc before you watch it.i hate that
Nick
WHY don't you/we get one of those ASTRA satellites and watch the feed from another country. I know a lot of countries take the BBC commentary, but there must be an English language commentary from another country.Because it's extra expenditure I can't be bothered with. :rolleyes:
I'll look into this.
:nerd:
oh well, will give up watching it altogether now. why bother with the bbc coverage when it's only half a season. bye bye f1 it was nice knowing you
WHY don't you/we get one of those ASTRA satellites and watch the feed from another country. I know a lot of countries take the BBC commentary, but there must be an English language commentary from another country.
I'll look into this.
:nerd:
Listened to the F1 in the car today, was really quite good actually! May of enjoyed it just as much as watching it live. Will BBC radio 5 still commentate on it you think?
Still raging about the whole situation...what a great race today though! Go Mclaren!
can't see it while alonso is there. I can however see him at red bull in 2013 and in a ferrari when alonso moves on.
can't see it while alonso is there. I can however see him at red bull in 2013 and in a ferrari when alonso moves on.
Him and Seb might cause a few issues to be honest, they have a good balance at Maclaren at the moment and both Lewis and Jenson work well as a partnership.. I don't think Seb would appreciate how Lewis drives, although i think Lewis would outdrive anybody in the right car..his natural ability is second to none..
BTW i think that article is pretty bullsh!tty
Good, Heidfeld is boring to watch and doesn't seem to delivery for a man with a lot of experience.
No DRS this weekend...
Heidfeld out, Senna in.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/
No DRS this weekend...
Only on Eau Rouge.
Nick
Heidfeld out, Senna in.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/
not fact yet.
Heidfeld out, Senna in.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/
not fact yet.
Yet...
"Genii Capital, which owns the team, has merged its operations with Brazil’s World Wide Investments (WWI). The WWI company was formed in 2010 by the Sabo family, which owns an auto-parts company in Brazil, which announced that it had $1.28 billion to invest. The initial aim was to invest around half of the money in real estate and the rest in new energy and forestry. The family set up the company with banker Marco Versiani, who previously worked for Itau Unibanco.
In July Gerard Lopez(he runs Genii Capital) and Bruno Senna travelled to Brazil looking for sponsors and in recent days Lopez has been quoted as saying that he had “mixed feelings†about Heidfeld, who was drafted in this year after Robert Kubica was injured in a rallying accident.Lopez said that the team had expected more from Heidfeld."
Senna's from Brazil. You do the maths.
:grin:
Fact.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/14658066.stm
You'd win bonus scene points if you'd posted the vid with him hitting the dog.
:wink:
You'd win bonus scene points if you'd posted the vid with him hitting the dog.
:wink:
Haha, are videos on YouTube off him hitting the dog, but all I have seen, have the dog blurred out!
If this had happened at the Chinese Grand Prix, they would of just scooped it up and had it for lunch..no waste
senna is a person driving of the back of a name,he isnt particuly talented no matter how many people rave about him,
im pretty sure any of the drivers in the sh!t teams would of quali'd top ten in a half decent car....
and pasto should be shot.....c*nt
I don't think the lewis / pastor clash was totally one sided although pastor was the most stupid of the 2.
very try chuffI don't think the lewis / pastor clash was totally one sided although pastor was the most stupid of the 2.
exactly, watched the reply many times, you can see just after the first corner, lewis twitched to the right as he was pulling away and about to be overtaken :huh:
I don't think the lewis / pastor clash was totally one sided although pastor was the most stupid of the 2.
exactly, watched the reply many times, you can see just after the first corner, lewis twitched to the right as he was pulling away and about to be overtaken :huh:
I don't think the lewis / pastor clash was totally one sided although pastor was the most stupid of the 2.
exactly, watched the reply many times, you can see just after the first corner, lewis twitched to the right as he was pulling away and about to be overtaken :huh:
I think the "twitch" is lewis going to turn in and seeing Pastaboy there pulling out of the turn expecting him to pass and instead Pastaboy closes the door on him totally
but , lewis sais himself in the post quali chat that he looked in his mirror and saw maldonardo coming up behind him at high speed so why would he move position?
Eddie Jordan is a cock
End of
Eddie Jordan is a cock
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Eddie Jordan is a cock
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+1
turkey dropped from 2012 confirmation :sad:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94148
at least the calendar is back to Australia opening and Brazil closing....................for now.
I clearly look at Lewis with rose tinted glasses. Felt sorry for him, I appreciate its a race but what was Kobayashi doing!? He had a broken front wing for gods sake, what did he actually expected to achieve. Never mind.
Cracking drive from JB. Feed up of the RBs now.
I clearly look at Lewis with rose tinted glasses. Felt sorry for him, I appreciate its a race but what was Kobayashi doing!? He had a broken front wing for gods sake, what did he actually expected to achieve. Never mind.
Cracking drive from JB. Feed up of the RBs now.
I clearly look at Lewis with rose tinted glasses. Felt sorry for him, I appreciate its a race but what was Kobayashi doing!? He had a broken front wing for gods sake, what did he actually expected to achieve. Never mind.
Cracking drive from JB. Feed up of the RBs now.
I clearly look at Lewis with rose tinted glasses. Felt sorry for him, I appreciate its a race but what was Kobayashi doing!? He had a broken front wing for gods sake, what did he actually expected to achieve. Never mind.
Cracking drive from JB. Feed up of the RBs now.
I agree with you totally Alan, I felt sorry for him too, I don't think he was all there giving his interview after the bump either..
I clearly look at Lewis with rose tinted glasses. Felt sorry for him, I appreciate its a race but what was Kobayashi doing!? He had a broken front wing for gods sake, what did he actually expected to achieve. Never mind.
Cracking drive from JB. Feed up of the RBs now.
I agree with you totally Alan, I felt sorry for him too, I don't think he was all there giving his interview after the bump either..
I think its should be mandatory that all the fit Sky Sports News presenters host the F1 naked.
Full re-runs 3 hours after the race on the red button. I can live with that.
Nick
Ill miss Brundle on Sky Sports :(
Ill miss Brundle on Sky Sports :(
Yep Brundle is a fantastic. I never really was that keen on Coulthard as a driver but since his been presenting I quite like what he has to say as well.
Ill miss Brundle on Sky Sports :(
Yep Brundle is a fantastic. I never really was that keen on Coulthard as a driver but since his been presenting I quite like what he has to say as well.
I sort of agree. At least he has toned down his pro Redbull antics recently.
Getting really bored of watching Vettel win every race now.
Getting really bored of watching Vettel win every race now.
It gets boring to hear this Team Radio when he wins and is so excited.... Like he didnt realise he was going to win with a 2hour lead on Button. lol.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/55296000/jpg/_55296033_55296032.jpg
That pic says it all! Look at Alonso and Button!!
some very interesting racing incidents today :lipsrsealed:
i loved the way schumacher held cry baby behind for half of race :evil: :evil: :evil:
cause I bloody hate him. One of the most over rated F1 driver by british media :laugh: :laugh:
cause I bloody hate him. One of the most over rated F1 driver by british media :laugh: :laugh:
Really? IMO I cant separate him from Alonso as the best driver on the grid.
cause I bloody hate him. One of the most over rated F1 driver by british media :laugh: :laugh:
Really? IMO I cant separate him from Alonso as the best driver on the grid.
Ferrari fan boy Alan. Hamilton is sh!t as he drives for McLaren and beat Massa to the WC..... :lipsrsealed:
cause I bloody hate him. One of the most over rated F1 driver by british media :laugh: :laugh:
Really? IMO I cant separate him from Alonso as the best driver on the grid.
Ferrari fan boy Alan. Hamilton is sh!t as he drives for McLaren and beat Massa to the WC..... :lipsrsealed:
Ferrari fan boy? Far from it lol not sure where you got that from (big McLaren (Team GB) fan). Since he won the WC in 2008 no one other than JB or Rubens was going to win in 2009 because of the Brawn double diffuser and in 2010 the RedBulls were just too much. Alonso despite having a far inferior Ferrari that year almost (should have) snatched it though.
cause I bloody hate him. One of the most over rated F1 driver by british media :laugh: :laugh:
Really? IMO I cant separate him from Alonso as the best driver on the grid.
Ferrari fan boy Alan. Hamilton is sh!t as he drives for McLaren and beat Massa to the WC..... :lipsrsealed:
Ferrari fan boy? Far from it lol not sure where you got that from (big McLaren (Team GB) fan). Since he won the WC in 2008 no one other than JB or Rubens was going to win in 2009 because of the Brawn double diffuser and in 2010 the RedBulls were just too much. Alonso despite having a far inferior Ferrari that year almost (should have) snatched it though.
He mean Devilz is the fan boi.....
Flame proofs on....
Buttons the best driver currently
RB have had alot of good fortune this season...dare I say if they hadn't of had this Vettel wouldn't be so far ahead.
Smitty, Schui better than JB and Seb!? The man dominated in a time when he had no other challengers and as he showed this weekend is a dirty cheating German.I honestly don't think he drove dirty. On every move he gave Lewis just about enough space had he wished to pull a move. I think Schumacher is an awesome driver and when he raced against Mika and then Montoya and Alonso it provided some amazing races.
Smitty, Schui better than JB and Seb!? The man dominated in a time when he had no other challengers and as he showed this weekend is a dirty cheating German.
Smitty, Schui better than JB and Seb!? The man dominated in a time when he had no other challengers and as he showed this weekend is a dirty cheating German.
Schumi didnt have many challengers but he was still a class above the rest when he was at his peak. I used to hate him for it but over time realised it really was just that he was bloody good lol.
As for him blocking Hamilton at the weekend, the track suited a defensive driver with a car that was fast in a straight line and he played the part to a tee showing his experience. I also think it showed Hamilton in quite a bad light really as he would have been better off backing off a touch to get a better run out of the critical corners where he could make best use of the Kers and DRS while maximising front end downforce to get a good run out. That sort of approach would have led to Schumi driving faster too so saving Hamilton time in the long run. AS it stood, he sat right under Schumi's rear wing and that compromises grip and makes it harder to get out of the slipstream without having to lift. Its a shame really as I still think Hamilton is the fastest out there on raw pace when the circumstances call for it but he is letting his emotions and frustration affect his driving quite a bit at the moment IMO.
Smitty, Schui better than JB and Seb!? The man dominated in a time when he had no other challengers and as he showed this weekend is a dirty cheating German.
Schumi didnt have many challengers but he was still a class above the rest when he was at his peak. I used to hate him for it but over time realised it really was just that he was bloody good lol.
As for him blocking Hamilton at the weekend, the track suited a defensive driver with a car that was fast in a straight line and he played the part to a tee showing his experience. I also think it showed Hamilton in quite a bad light really as he would have been better off backing off a touch to get a better run out of the critical corners where he could make best use of the Kers and DRS while maximising front end downforce to get a good run out. That sort of approach would have led to Schumi driving faster too so saving Hamilton time in the long run. AS it stood, he sat right under Schumi's rear wing and that compromises grip and makes it harder to get out of the slipstream without having to lift. Its a shame really as I still think Hamilton is the fastest out there on raw pace when the circumstances call for it but he is letting his emotions and frustration affect his driving quite a bit at the moment IMO.
Hamilton backing off to get a better run would have made f**k all difference as he was bouncing off the limiter.........his gear ratio's were too short and the Mercedes was setup to be as fast as possible without DRS
Hamilton backing off to get a better run would have made f**k all difference as he was bouncing off the limiter.........his gear ratio's were too short and the Mercedes was setup to be as fast as possible without DRS
I honestly don't think he drove dirty. On every move he gave Lewis just about enough space had he wished to pull a move.
love him or hate him, schumacher still got driving skills but the car he got is not fast enough. if mercedes can give him fast car like button had in brawn, he will be untouchable like he was in ferrari days.
he should have attacked on the first corner or the middle section.
or the middle section.
I've still not forgiven Schumacher for blatently taking out Hill in Adelaide 1994.
I was so gutted for Hill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr00HlaK-L0&feature=related
I've still not forgiven Schumacher for blatently taking out Hill in Adelaide 1994.
I was so gutted for Hill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr00HlaK-L0&feature=related
You need the killer instinct to be a champ!!
Has any1 seen the pics of webbers car at monza, when it is lifted up,
Ment to show the diffuser in detail?
Has any1 seen the pics of webbers car at monza, when it is lifted up,
Ment to show the diffuser in detail?
Has any1 seen the pics of webbers car at monza, when it is lifted up,
Ment to show the diffuser in detail?
The rear diffuser? Isn't it in enough detail when viewed from standard video footage on tv? I don't getcha...
vettel driving away, lewis in the wars again :rolleyes:
vettel driving away, lewis in the wars again :rolleyes:
It is dire. How can be be 6 seconds ahead on the 6th lap?! Lewis was totally to blame for that one...getting so frustrated watching it!
He's a tool for putting his cry baby face on and throwing toys out of the pram the way he did, however Hamilton was completely to blame for the incident and it's come to a point were in every race he's in some sort of accident or contact.
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/60096.html
great news. :smiley:
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/60096.html
great news. :smiley:
But will Lotus / Renault still be around.
Vettel on pole again although i think by chance more than anything else with Hamilton dropping out.
It looks like it could be a competitive race and with the track might have a few surprises!
He also manages to mix it up with massa to button is doin well though pleased for him I'm still a schumi fan though havin decent races lately
dare I say it again....I think he's right up there with Senna, Prost, Schumacher (in his prime) and Fangio.
Hats of again to Seb, its all well and good saying its the best car but Webber has the same car and look what has (or hasn't) done with it.
dare I say it again....I think he's right up there with Senna, Prost, Schumacher (in his prime) and Fangio.
I don't put him in the same league, sorryHats of again to Seb, its all well and good saying its the best car but Webber has the same car and look what has (or hasn't) done with it.
He is not allowed to race Vettel so not really his fault, Red Bull as a team is built around Vettel with Webber the faithfull donkey.
Lets hope it is better next year, Vettel is in way or another like Schumacher and killing the sport.
Also I don't think he is that good a driver, lets be honest the car is great but could he still win from say 18th on the grid, I doubt it.
So Niki Lauda says Vettel can be better than Schumacher:
I hope this isn't the beginning of the domination of Vettel or people will be switching off in droves.
I hope this isn't the beginning of the domination of Vettel or people will be switching off in droves.
They'll be doing that anyway once the Sky deal falls into place... :rolleyes:
Wonder if sky will buy jake a ipad2.. :rolleyes:
When Vettel crashed in Japan's practice and damaged his front wing, there was no replacement and they wouldn't take Webber's.
Vettel desired to have THAT wing design so strongly that he would cover the cost to fly the front wing immediately by private plane from the UK to Japan. Cost to deliver by private plane on short notice, to allow him to get Pole Position was estimated at $200,000 USD (€150,000 EUR).
I have a feeling SV is going to take LH on into the first corner, but then LH will stick with SV and do him at teh end of the long straight.
Another silly penalty for Hamilton today. 3 place gird penalty for settings his practice time under yellow flags...I am sure he will be happy when the season finishes.
Nice to see these new tracks are so good..look at the comms box for the bbc this weekend
http://campl.us/gBwW
Lewis has split with Nicole Sh!tsinger so that's probably why he's been off his game recently. :laugh:
Another silly penalty for Hamilton today. 3 place gird penalty for settings his practice time under yellow flags...I am sure he will be happy when the season finishes.
Nice to see these new tracks are so good..look at the comms box for the bbc this weekend
http://campl.us/gBwW
Bloody hell..... this is a season to forget for LH. But it will be a long race so hopefully he might be able to claw back some places. Looks like another win for Vettel before the race has even started :sad:
"Lewis Hamilton and Sergio Perez have both been given three-place grid penalties for ignoring double-waved yellow flags during the first practice session, at the Indian Grand Prix.
"Lewis Hamilton and Sergio Perez have both been given three-place grid penalties for ignoring double-waved yellow flags during the first practice session, at the Indian Grand Prix.
it can't get any better for cry baby.
"Lewis Hamilton and Sergio Perez have both been given three-place grid penalties for ignoring double-waved yellow flags during the first practice session, at the Indian Grand Prix.
it can't get any better for cry baby.
He isn't that much of a cry baby. I think you have to see all of the unfortunate things that have happened to him this season from his point of view. Plus he has taken most of the penalties well...
"Lewis Hamilton and Sergio Perez have both been given three-place grid penalties for ignoring double-waved yellow flags during the first practice session, at the Indian Grand Prix.
it can't get any better for cry baby.
He isn't that much of a cry baby. I think you have to see all of the unfortunate things that have happened to him this season from his point of view. Plus he has taken most of the penalties well...
And only himself to blame for each one of them all :grin:
they were blatently trying to copy red bulls wing and failing badly :grin:
Edit - Just seen it again..Messa fault really not Lewis on that one!
imho peeps who pay for sky are the mugs, all you pay for is x amount of channels of sh1te, there are so many other forms of entertainment that do not cost the exorbitant amounts sky charge, why on earth do you pay? is seeing the premiership live that important? or the the films or series when they are eventually gonna come out on freeview anyway?
i really do not get why you feel you have to pay over and above the tv licensing fee to be entertained by your tv :rolleyes:
I gave up Sky 3 years ago. Saved me over £400 a year.I would be very interested in the name of that site please :smiley:
I still manage to watch any game I like though in near HD Quality for £20 a year through a very good streaming website :D
who's hoping for a pincer attack on vettel by the mclaren boys at turn 1 :evil:
who's hoping for a pincer attack on vettel by the mclaren boys at turn 1 :evil:
No need! :grin:
Anybody else find it appropriate that today of all days the German went down and Britain came out on top! :grin:
I read that the Austin track developers have downed tools with immediate effect. All because they still don't have a signed contract from the poison dwarf and his recent comments to the effect that he doesn't think the grand prix will happen.
Tool.
Only just caught up with the race at the weekend as for some reason it was not on IPlayer until late Monday night. What happened to Vettel's tyre? Any news on that yet?
Vettels spin on the first corner :
Tyre supplier Pirelli has ruled out structural failure as a possible cause the puncture that led to Red Bull driver Sebastian Vettel's retirement from the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Pirelli motorsport director Paul Hembery said: "We can confirm that a structural failure was not the cause, a conclusion that we have arrived at together with Red Bull Racing following a detailed examination and analysis of the remains of the tyre. We cannot rule out debris on the track causing damage to the tyre, which then provoked a deflation, but having looked at the track closely there is no direct evidence of this."
(Pirelli)
Anyone thinking some one may of tampered with the wheel, perhaps a little sabotage?
Bye F1..as predicted..Sky have confirmed F1 will have it's own channel. As I posted the other day..it will be free now, but as always with Sky, that is going to change after the first season.
http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12040/7332332/Sky-Sports-launches-F1-channel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/15893254.stm
we still get 10 races to watch free
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/15893254.stm
we still get 10 races to watch free
Notice how half of the those are the boring procession races too.........
Jake Humphrey said the other day on Radio 1 that he will be continuing with the BBC for next year, haven't heard rumours for any of the other guys though. I think they will probably hang on to them it's not like they need the extra money sky will offer, maybe the gimp who does the pit lane will go though.
being there at the track I did see/hear vettel shortshifting. Whether or not he put it on, who knows. All I know is vettel is a very very good driver. Maybe not senna good, but pretty damn good. On throttle a good 10m before anyone else out of the corner, and no hesitation, on throttle, straight to full power.
Vettel is extremely talented, anyone who cant see that must be mental. To drive one of those cars takes immense skill and I doubt many of us would be able to get one 1/4 round a circuit. Anyone who wins back to back titles deserves credit. Redbull was best this season - fact, Vettle was waesome this season - FACT.
Vettel is better than Weber in the same way that Button is better than Hamilton.
Button was getter faster lap times than Hamilton on the harder compound tyre when Ham was on the soft!
So the drivers do make a difference!
Vettel is better than Weber in the same way that Button is better than Hamilton.
Button was getter faster lap times than Hamilton on the harder compound tyre when Ham was on the soft!
So the drivers do make a difference!
I thought that was a pretty poor race to end the season on.
Vettle really shouldnt have compared himself to Senna, Vettle is a great driver but he isnt and never will be a legend like Senna. For all Vettle won the season out and out i still dont think he is the best driver in the field, he still hasnt shown truely great driving. He is a pace setter, thats it. There hasnt been any truely great overtaking or defending from him.
Button has had a fantastic season and i think him and Hamilton will be a great partnership for the coming years in f1, Alonso really showing what hes worth again, almost every race he has finished high than where he started!
Looking forward to next season but hope Mclaren, Ferrari and hopefully Mercades can close the gap to Red Bull
And just to touch on the Hamilton/Button whos better thing, Hamilton is the better driver. He has had one bad season in F1 which is nothing compared to Button's mistakes in the past. Hamilton has been in F1 5 years, Button has been in 11 years. 2010 season, Hamilton retires 3 times, button non. Hamilton beats button by 26 points.
I thought that was a pretty poor race to end the season on.
Vettle really shouldnt have compared himself to Senna, Vettle is a great driver but he isnt and never will be a legend like Senna. For all Vettle won the season out and out i still dont think he is the best driver in the field, he still hasnt shown truely great driving. He is a pace setter, thats it. There hasnt been any truely great overtaking or defending from him.
Button has had a fantastic season and i think him and Hamilton will be a great partnership for the coming years in f1, Alonso really showing what hes worth again, almost every race he has finished high than where he started!
Looking forward to next season but hope Mclaren, Ferrari and hopefully Mercades can close the gap to Red Bull
And just to touch on the Hamilton/Button whos better thing, Hamilton is the better driver. He has had one bad season in F1 which is nothing compared to Button's mistakes in the past. Hamilton has been in F1 5 years, Button has been in 11 years. 2010 season, Hamilton retires 3 times, button non. Hamilton beats button by 26 points.
I think the same regarding the poor race to end on, but that's motor racing..
Just to pick up on your "legend" comment. I think Vettel has the ability to become the next Senna or Schuey. As horrible as this sounds, Sennas status is pushed even higher because of the way in which he died. I believe that if Seb continues to dominate the sport as he has, with Adrian Newy(sp) building his cars, he will become the next big thing.
Can people please spell Vettels name right please......It really grips my sh!t.
I thought that was a pretty poor race to end the season on.
Vettle really shouldnt have compared himself to Senna, Vettle is a great driver but he isnt and never will be a legend like Senna. For all Vettle won the season out and out i still dont think he is the best driver in the field, he still hasnt shown truely great driving. He is a pace setter, thats it. There hasnt been any truely great overtaking or defending from him.
Button has had a fantastic season and i think him and Hamilton will be a great partnership for the coming years in f1, Alonso really showing what hes worth again, almost every race he has finished high than where he started!
Looking forward to next season but hope Mclaren, Ferrari and hopefully Mercades can close the gap to Red Bull
And just to touch on the Hamilton/Button whos better thing, Hamilton is the better driver. He has had one bad season in F1 which is nothing compared to Button's mistakes in the past. Hamilton has been in F1 5 years, Button has been in 11 years. 2010 season, Hamilton retires 3 times, button non. Hamilton beats button by 26 points.
I think the same regarding the poor race to end on, but that's motor racing..
Just to pick up on your "legend" comment. I think Vettel has the ability to become the next Senna or Schuey. As horrible as this sounds, Sennas status is pushed even higher because of the way in which he died. I believe that if Seb continues to dominate the sport as he has, with Adrian Newy(sp) building his cars, he will become the next big thing.
Can people please spell Vettels name right please......It really grips my sh!t.
+ Bandwagon
You don't need to :wink:
I have the full Virgin Media HD package minus the sports channels so it'll be interesting to see if they manage to strike a similar deal with sky, hopefully I won't have to resort to watching it online :lipsrsealed:im just gonna spend the day watching it in the pub with a nice pint :D
new Sky F1 channel to be launched in March 2012
From what I can work out you don't need to be a Sky Sports subscriber, just a Sky HD subscriber* which costs £10.25/month
http://f1.sky.com/?DCMP=BAC-brand-SkyF1-sky.com-300x250-74830356_45329679_249729310 (http://f1.sky.com/?DCMP=BAC-brand-SkyF1-sky.com-300x250-74830356_45329679_249729310)
*if you subscribe to Sky HD before 30/11/11 you get £100 worth of M&S vouchers
Where does Kubica fit into all this...
Where does Kubica fit into all this...
I think he will be back in 2013 with Ferrari
Reference Kimi, I was sent this earlier: http://www.f1zone.net/news/the-words-and-wisdom-of-kimi/10648/ :laugh:
Where does Kubica fit into all this...
I think he will be back in 2013 with Ferrari
Reference Kimi, I was sent this earlier: http://www.f1zone.net/news/the-words-and-wisdom-of-kimi/10648/ :laugh:
Great read. :laugh:
Croft and Brundle confirmed for sky's commentary! fatherless sons! thats the dream team right there
any idea on price yet for the f1 channel i have the hd cannel pack
any idea on price yet for the f1 channel i have the hd cannel pack
No one listening?? :huh:
You only need the basic package + HD package to get the F1 channel. Jeez. It's free (in a sense)
any idea on price yet for the f1 channel i have the hd cannel pack
No one listening?? :huh:
You only need the basic package + HD package to get the F1 channel. Jeez. It's free (in a sense)
what if you dont have HD?
any idea on price yet for the f1 channel i have the hd cannel pack
No one listening?? :huh:
You only need the basic package + HD package to get the F1 channel. Jeez. It's free (in a sense)
what if you dont have HD?
£10.25 an extra for the HD package per month.
Hell I'll give ma n pa a tenner a month to guarantee seeing every race.
BOOM
any idea on price yet for the f1 channel i have the hd cannel pack
No one listening?? :huh:
You only need the basic package + HD package to get the F1 channel. Jeez. It's free (in a sense)
what if you dont have HD?
Then you are of the Poor an therefore unfit to be a functional part of society. Away Serf!
£10.25 an extra for the HD package per month.
Hell I'll give ma n pa a tenner a month to guarantee seeing every race.
BOOM
PLUS - you can sign up to HD before the 21/12 and get a FREE HD box and £100 M&S vouchers... whats not to like?!!??! :cool:
£10.25 an extra for the HD package per month.
Hell I'll give ma n pa a tenner a month to guarantee seeing every race.
BOOM
PLUS - you can sign up to HD before the 21/12 and get a FREE HD box and £100 M&S vouchers... whats not to like?!!??! :cool:
The fact that you're lining Murdoch's pockets. I'll watch the BBC highlights thanks.
£10.25 an extra for the HD package per month.
Hell I'll give ma n pa a tenner a month to guarantee seeing every race.
BOOM
PLUS - you can sign up to HD before the 21/12 and get a FREE HD box and £100 M&S vouchers... whats not to like?!!??! :cool:
The fact that you're lining Murdoch's pockets. I'll watch the BBC highlights thanks.
well enjoy the highlights... i'll be watching it live in HD :wink:
£10.25 an extra for the HD package per month.
Hell I'll give ma n pa a tenner a month to guarantee seeing every race.
BOOM
PLUS - you can sign up to HD before the 21/12 and get a FREE HD box and £100 M&S vouchers... whats not to like?!!??! :cool:
The fact that you're lining Murdoch's pockets. I'll watch the BBC highlights thanks.
well enjoy the highlights... i'll be watching it live in HD :wink:
Bit of Spanish biased there ;)
Bit of Spanish biased there ;)
It just happens to be... Even if he was french I'd like his style. I reckon HRT might pinch him, for an all spanish line up in a team which is looking better for 2012. I'll be rooting for them now kolles is out.
Bit of Spanish biased there ;)
It just happens to be... Even if he was french I'd like his style. I reckon HRT might pinch him, for an all spanish line up in a team which is looking better for 2012. I'll be rooting for them now kolles is out.
How exactly do HRT look better for 2012? I've not seen anything except from sponsorship and funding issues in the team :undecided:
I think you may be right thou, Algersuari will probably end up at HRT and i would imagine Sutil is going to pick up the last place at Williams
I think Buemi is a good driver thou, lots of consistant performances with a good few over takes during his career nothing to special thou
Melissa : You need to subscribe to £30.25 deal and you will get the F1 channel Free from March 2012 and you do not need to subscribe to Sports pack separately to get the F1 channel
Melissa : So you get Basic Entertainment pack £20 + Free Sky+HD box with HD pack £10.25
For the F1 channel, if you're a new customer you needQuoteMelissa : You need to subscribe to £30.25 deal and you will get the F1 channel Free from March 2012 and you do not need to subscribe to Sports pack separately to get the F1 channel
Melissa : So you get Basic Entertainment pack £20 + Free Sky+HD box with HD pack £10.25
So £30.25 a month just to see one channel? Fook that.
For the F1 channel, if you're a new customer you needQuoteMelissa : You need to subscribe to £30.25 deal and you will get the F1 channel Free from March 2012 and you do not need to subscribe to Sports pack separately to get the F1 channel
Melissa : So you get Basic Entertainment pack £20 + Free Sky+HD box with HD pack £10.25
So £30.25 a month just to see one channel? Fook that.
No, that's £30.25 for many many sky channels which happens to also include the F1 channel
Well yeah it is. Doesn't Sky have an encrypted channel on freeview? Could easily add the F1 channel there as well as through it's Sky package, that way if you only want that 1 channel you don't need Skybox or dish, just a freeview box/TV which everyone has nowadays.
BBC gets 4-5 million viewers for the F1, sky sports record view number is something around 600,000.
NIck
So what you're saying is Sky doesn't need customers? :rolleyes:
I'm sure Sky would love to have everyone onboard. It's any business' objective at the end of the day...
So what you're saying is Sky doesn't need customers? :rolleyes:
I'm sure Sky would love to have everyone onboard. It's any business' objective at the end of the day...
I'm saying F1's not their priority. :rolleyes: They have a lot more going on then F1 :rolleyes:
Tis just business
I still couldn't see 'millions' of people spending £10 for one channel let alone £30.
Tis just business
But there of millions of people out there willing to spend £10! :grin:
So I've got Sky, and also pay for the HD pack. That means I'll get the new F1 channel?
So what you're saying is Sky doesn't need customers? :rolleyes:
I'm sure Sky would love to have everyone onboard. It's any business' objective at the end of the day...
I'm saying F1's not their priority. :rolleyes: They have a lot more going on then F1 :rolleyes:
Are you dumb? :huh:
There's millions of people who are willing to pay £10/month to watch F1. Sky have the resources to open just 1 channel on freeview. Why miss out on millions of £ when it's right there infront of you?
I have virgin and freeview in the house so i have no idea how i'm going to get the every full races :(
I have virgin and freeview in the house so i have no idea how i'm going to get the every full races :(
You can get pretty much every other Sky channel through Virgin so I would assume that you will be able to get the F1 channel (I f**king hope so, havent got round to phoning Virgin yet).
http://en.espnf1.com/ferrari/motorsport/story/67027.html?CMP=OTC-RSS
ok mate :grin:
Interesting move by Red Bull. Wonder if there was a contract dispute?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/16421740.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/16727904.stm
Caterham fail :rolleyes:
Cannot wait for a couple of weeks :evil:
OTHER TEAM LAUNCH DATES
McLaren - 1 Feb
Ferrari - 3 Feb
Force India - 3 Feb
Lotus - 5 Feb
Sauber - 6 Feb
Red Bull - 6 Feb
Mercedes - 21 Feb
Toro Rosso - TBA
Williams - TBA
Marussia - TBA
HRT - TBA
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/16727904.stm
Caterham fail :rolleyes:
Cannot wait for a couple of weeks :evil:
OTHER TEAM LAUNCH DATES
McLaren - 1 Feb
Ferrari - 3 Feb
Force India - 3 Feb
Lotus - 5 Feb
Sauber - 6 Feb
Red Bull - 6 Feb
Mercedes - 21 Feb
Toro Rosso - TBA
Williams - TBA
Marussia - TBA
HRT - TBA
Williams, Marussia and HRT just shouldnt bother this year
what happened to the mac's sidepod wings khare? :laugh:
the bodies are correct at launch, homoligation innit. the exhausts won't be a source of performance this year
wings, yeah they will change, but they get updated every other race anyway
Don't expect this year's cars to be any slower than last year despite new rules that govern the position of the exhaust exits and the engine computer control maps that effectively ban blown diffusers. "Exhaust gases are basically thrust," says Tim Goss, engineering director. "Thrust makes cars go faster." Expect once again for the technology fight to be all about the back of the car.
(http://cdn.images.autosport.com/editorial/1328259831.jpg)
ugliest nose ever?
Its a regulations thing, there is a max height the nose can be now, and the teams want the body higher just in front of the cockpit, hence the ugly step.
McLaren's noses have historically always been low, not sure on the reason
Regulations for this year state that the bulkhead of the monocoque (or the area immediately in front of the cockpit) must have a height of 625mm to protect against side impacts from other cars. Then, in a span of 150mm, the nose of the car must be lowered to 550mm (a drop of roughly three inches) to prevent the nosecone from entering the cockpit/helmet area of another car.
perhaps the most fascinating rumor of this offseason that surrounds the F2012 is regarding some special materials that may be used on the car’s floor. To accommodate for the smaller side radiators, Ferrari are supposedly tinkering with some heat-dissipating compounds out of which they could make the floor of the car. After admitting some parts of the car’s body were hard to manufacture (for unknown reasons), the speculation is that the area under the engine will be made of a puzzling (and, no doubt, incredibly expensive) material designed to pull heat away from the engine and dissipate it in the airflow under the car. No one has confirmed this yet, but reading between the lines seems to indicate something special is on the way.
next!
(http://cdn.images.autosport.com/editorial/1328262593.jpg)
marginally better nose but still :sick:
was it nico hulkenberg that got a williams on pole in 09 or 10?
next!
(http://cdn.images.autosport.com/editorial/1328262593.jpg)
marginally better nose but still :sick:
the more i see it the more i like it, but i dont know why
next!
(http://cdn.images.autosport.com/editorial/1328262593.jpg)
marginally better nose but still :sick:
the more i see it the more i like it, but i dont know why
(http://www.giftlog.com/images/platypus/toy_platypus4.jpg)
Right lads, the boss said the car must look like a platypus on wheels, lets get working :sick:
Lower nose less space for airflow, but lower CofG, better suspension geo, it could pay off with better laptimes
hmmm the toro ross seems very similar to the red bull as usual with a couple of extra add ons... red bull test car, should be band!!
I cant wait to see this Marussia, it will be built like atankMk2!
:grin:hmmm the toro ross seems very similar to the red bull as usual with a couple of extra add ons... red bull test car, should be band!!
I cant wait to see this Marussia, it will be built like atankMk2!
:grin:hmmm the toro ross seems very similar to the red bull as usual with a couple of extra add ons... red bull test car, should be band!!
I cant wait to see this Marussia, it will be built like atankMk2!
Too funny.
How would positive pressure help in the cockpit? Also with the F duct thing didn't they ban that, so surely it couldn't be to do with that...Interesting!
No idea how cockpit pressure benefits, but it's something Scarbs suggested, as well as F-duct like device. The only thing I can think of is that under the car it's negative pressure thanks to diffuser, and so by applying positive pressure on the top, it pushes the car down further? I really don't know much about aerodynamics to be honest. And although F-duct is banned, it doesn't stop teams from inventing new ways of creating/removing downforce on demand.
No idea how cockpit pressure benefits, but it's something Scarbs suggested, as well as F-duct like device. The only thing I can think of is that under the car it's negative pressure thanks to diffuser, and so by applying positive pressure on the top, it pushes the car down further? I really don't know much about aerodynamics to be honest. And although F-duct is banned, it doesn't stop teams from inventing new ways of creating/removing downforce on demand.
" I really don't know much about aerodynamics to be honest."
NO WAI!
So....they design a diffuser to lift the car off the ground (Really.. Why?.... :rolleyes:)
... and then the design the cockpit to produce positive pressure to push the car down (thereby negating the diffuser) :rolleyes:
Oh and green is area is cockpit, blue is a possible F-Duct, air could be flowed through the body through an internal mini diffuser.
Martin Brundle says (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYaIXWNOa_A)
Oh and green is area is cockpit, blue is a possible F-Duct, air could be flowed through the body through an internal mini diffuser.
I like your thinking. Great drawing too :smiley:
:lipsrsealed: that is all . . . . .
The diffuser doesnt actually create negative pressure though, the high speed air passing under the car creates that (high velocity flow = low pressure, low velocity flow = high pressure in accordance with bernouli's theorem). The low height of the floor relative to the ground basically forces the air to a high velocity creating the low pressure zone. The actual (low) pressure peak is found at the mouth of the diffuser (at the front of the diffuser) and the air below the car is generally below ambient pressure so the whole floor creates downforce. The diffuser serves to assist pressure recovery or the matching of the velocities of the flows where they meet at the back of the car.
The diffuser doesnt actually create negative pressure though, the high speed air passing under the car creates that (high velocity flow = low pressure, low velocity flow = high pressure in accordance with bernouli's theorem). The low height of the floor relative to the ground basically forces the air to a high velocity creating the low pressure zone. The actual (low) pressure peak is found at the mouth of the diffuser (at the front of the diffuser) and the air below the car is generally below ambient pressure so the whole floor creates downforce. The diffuser serves to assist pressure recovery or the matching of the velocities of the flows where they meet at the back of the car.
Nice explanation.
Now then...who's been following the Jerez testing...
FASTEST TIMES, DAY THREE TESTING, JEREZ
1 Nico Rosberg (Ger) Mercedes 1:17.613*
2 Romain Grosjean (Swi) Lotus 1:18.419
3 Sebastian Vettel (Ger) Red Bull-Renault 1:19.297
4 Lewis Hamilton (GB) McLaren-Mercedes 1:19.464
New driver, Hellooooo :smiley:
getting closer now.. been keeping half an eye on the testing, as usual its all over the place.
is it going to be red bull domination again do we think?
My friend works for Red Bull - he does some of the electrics on Seb's car. I get the impression they're pretty pleased with the car at the moment. However, that could be the standard smoke and mirrors that most F1 teams use so take that with a massive pinch of salt.
I probably wouldn't bet against them though.
No...I just think that they introduced parts at the end of testing so it doesn't give teams the chance to copy and test "special" bits on the RB before the first GP. The same as Merc testing their car later than the front runners.
No...I just think that they introduced parts at the end of testing so it doesn't give teams the chance to copy and test "special" bits on the RB before the first GP. The same as Merc testing their car later than the front runners.
Respect that but 2 days to test major changes seems to daft to me, even more so when they lost most of today with problems.
think i may put a tenner on a mclaren 1-2 finnish in oz! :cool:
Random they didn't send de la rosa out to shake it down?
Should be worth a watch tonight.
Racing with the Hamiltons (BBC1 10.35pm)
In 2011, 19-year-old Nic Hamilton dreamed of following his brother Lewis into motor racing. But as well as the pressure of being a Hamilton and never having raced a car in his life, Nic also has a disability that had him using a wheelchair until he was 16. This powerful and intimate film follows the family as they try to help Nic achieve his dream. With unprecedented access we see Nic embark on a season that will determine whether he has what it takes to make a career of his own in the glamorous and dangerous world of motorsport.
New HRT looks the business I think! http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97856 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97856)
I predict Button-Hamilton-Vettel in Oz.
New HRT looks the business I think! http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97856 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97856)
I predict Button-Hamilton-Vettel in Oz.
I'd say,
1. Hamilton
2. Button
3. Schumacer
I have a feeling i may be very wrong but would love that! :smiley:
New HRT looks the business I think! http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97856 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97856)
I predict Button-Hamilton-Vettel in Oz.
I'd say,
1. Hamilton
2. Button
3. Schumacer
I have a feeling i may be very wrong but would love that! :smiley:
I'd love to see Schumi get a podium this season!!
I'm tempted to put a bet on button for the championship, saw 17/2 earlier
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17325815
cant decide weather its worth watch the interview on sunday night or not
28 hours until FP1 kicks off. I remember last year Karun Chandhok crashed out in FP1 in the Lotus. I'll be expecting to see the same with HRT and Marussia as they've yet to properly test the car.
I'm tempted to put a bet on button for the championship, saw 17/2 earlier
I'm tempted to put a bet on button for the championship, saw 17/2 earlier
do you seriously reckon he could make it? do you think the car is up to it?
Button can challenge, no doubt.
I rate him above Hamilton
Button can challenge, no doubt.
I rate him above Hamilton
Then you are stupid.
but are other teams like RB keeping things under wraps? especially with the aerodynamic changes etc
and i rate Button above Hamilton too :)
Button can challenge, no doubt.
I rate him above Hamilton
Then you are stupid.
Cheers, there's a book called 'How to win friends and influence people'
Perhaps you could read it some time, or maybe get it on audiobook, helps with the big words
Button can challenge, no doubt.
I rate him above Hamilton
Then you are stupid.
Cheers, there's a book called 'How to win friends and influence people'
Perhaps you could read it some time, or maybe get it on audiobook, helps with the big words
Been watching the F1 channel on sky on and off and so far it seems decent! Especially the race reviews from last season, much more team radio and much clearer pictures!
I lol'd at Mark Webber at Monaco last year when they weren't ready for his pitstop, "what the fcuk was that?" "this is prime Mark" "i know that but what the fcuk happened at the stop?" :laugh:
Sky coverage so far is not to great.
Had about 5 minutes of talking, the rest has been adverts, promos and now for the 2nd time in 25 minutes a advert on how we can all watch F1 on sky.
I'm pretty upset with coverage so far. Adverts every 10 minutes and the main presenter keeps saying "erm" and calling the drivers the riders.That made me laugh quite a lot lol
just read that all races can be watched on bbc anyway... and probably will be shown at a much more (uk) convenient time anyway. Now I just have to figure out a way to avoid sky sports news :undecided:
I'm pretty upset with coverage so far. Adverts every 10 minutes and the main presenter keeps saying "erm" and calling the drivers the riders.
cant i bump into thingsjust read that all races can be watched on bbc anyway... and probably will be shown at a much more (uk) convenient time anyway. Now I just have to figure out a way to avoid sky sports news :undecided:
Just shut your eyes :laugh:
cant i bump into thingsjust read that all races can be watched on bbc anyway... and probably will be shown at a much more (uk) convenient time anyway. Now I just have to figure out a way to avoid sky sports news :undecided:
Just shut your eyes :laugh:
PLACE YOUR BETS GENTLEMEN!
I've got:
Button to win
Shumi for pole
Hulkenburg for a podium
and a DNF for both ferraris and at least 1 redbull
PLACE YOUR BETS GENTLEMEN!
I've got:
Button to win
Shumi for pole
Hulkenburg for a podium
and a DNF for both ferraris and at least 1 redbull
just for fun, see how my luck goes with this race then maybe give it a go next race.
i'm thinking pastor maldonado will qualify behind his team mate but finnish ahead and both cars will qualify in the top half of q2
mercedes doing well!
so which of you silly cvunts are up at 4/6am then? I think i'll be up at 6 but not 4.. thats a bit silly! :grin:
awesome race!!! :cool:
I'm tempted to put a bet on button for the championship, saw 17/2 earlier
do you seriously reckon he could make it? do you think the car is up to it?
Car might be but Button wont be with Hamilton as a team mate
hamilton had some bad luck though, he was on the pace but lost out in the pits and he got held up by perez, saw him go purple a few times so i don't think he's out of the count. Really pleased with williams this year too, i was starting to get worried!
Button can challenge, no doubt.
I rate him above Hamilton
Then you are stupid.
hamilton had some bad luck though, he was on the pace but lost out in the pits and he got held up by perez, saw him go purple a few times so i don't think he's out of the count. Really pleased with williams this year too, i was starting to get worried!
hamilton had pole and he bogged down at the start.. if he hadn't of done that he would have been in the lead and had his call on pit stop order etc... which would probably have not led to him being held up by the SC and Vettel, wasn't bad luck, it was racing.. and he didn't win. Button did win, because he drove a blinder from the first second.
They're spending the same money though aren't they? Flights, camera crew, etc. They still have the same team apart from Ted and Martin and 2 new commentators alongside DC.
Also, despite a busy afternoon of sport we had 1.6m watching qualifying on BBC Two, matching 2011's live qualifying ratings. Thanks guys x
I'd love to see viewing figures for Sky's coverage and for the BBC's highlights program. Does anyone know when Sky's contract finishes? Is it just 1 year? I have a feeling BBC will snap it up again as soon as it can.
Wow, really? I thought 2012 was very much anticipated? I know a lot of people are using satellites to take FTA feed from Germany, RTL, and then use BBC radio 5 live commentary for commentary. I guess a fair amount of people might have seen it via that or other methods that don't include Sky or BBC (or internet Sky feeds).
So are the sky figures just the live figures yeah? Im guessing it doesnt count people sky+'ing it like i did.
I would bet alot of people recorded it and watched at a better time.
I just saw that fit bird on sky interviewing Martin Whitmarsh...I was angry, she was constantly looking away while Ted Kravitz was stood next to her eagerly awaiting every answer and looking very interested, a massive contrast to her perceived mood.
on this track, its definitely an advantage to have a car that works
I just saw that fit bird on sky interviewing Martin Whitmarsh...I was angry, she was constantly looking away while Ted Kravitz was stood next to her eagerly awaiting every answer and looking very interested, a massive contrast to her perceived mood.
Ted Kravitz... he's the stuttery one isn't he... and she is the pretty one who's knowledge isn't a patch on Lee McKenzie's (who also has a much better relationship with the drivers and team managers)... these Sky presenters aren't very good imo... but at least its live and in HD and we get to watch practice 1 and 2, quali an the live race :evil:
sky should get Humphrey asap...he single handedly is far superior than all 3 idiots at sky f1 channel
sky should get Humphrey asap...he single handedly is far superior than all 3 idiots at sky f1 channel
sky should get Humphrey asap...he single handedly is far superior than all 3 idiots at sky f1 channel
to all the haters, schumacher starts tomorrow race from 2nd row again. It will be amazing to see him on podium at the end of the race.
Don't forget Lee Mckenzie
(http://www.celebritybrands.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/lee-mckenzie-2.jpg)
You just know she bangs like a sh*t house door in the wind!
Don't forget Lee Mckenzie
(http://www.celebritybrands.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/lee-mckenzie-2.jpg)
You just know she bangs like a sh*t house door in the wind!
She even has a sexy voice, she's awesome!
Nick
"Ferrari are back. " - David Coulthard
"Ferrari are back. " - David Coulthard
lol
Massa has had no speed since he argued with Barrichello's spring, sad but this happens after that level of trauma.
Hew will be at HRT or one of those other teams fairly soon, shame really.
is it just me but do brundle,hill and whoever they talk to ignore the guy with the ipad glued to his hand?
Congrats to the Polish F1 channel for a HD feed all in English and looking like Sky :grin:
Congrats to the Polish F1 channel for a HD feed all in English and looking like Sky :grin:
details please :kiss:
http://myp2p.pe/index.php?sport=motorCongrats to the Polish F1 channel for a HD feed all in English and looking like Sky :grin:
details please :kiss:
Massa has had no speed since he argued with Barrichello's spring, sad but this happens after that level of trauma.
Hew will be at HRT or one of those other teams fairly soon, shame really.
Agreed. He's just not been the same since he took that spring to the face. I feel a bit sorry for him TBH.
is it just me but do brundle,hill and whoever they talk to ignore the guy with the ipad glued to his hand?
He is almost as bad as the blonde nodding dog up in the Sky Pad
so the question is, is perez good enough to have had that 'off' on purpose? :lipsrsealed:
(http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr232/hunterneary/smileys/sherlock.gif)
so the question is, is perez good enough to have had that 'off' on purpose? :lipsrsealed:
(http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr232/hunterneary/smileys/sherlock.gif)
so the question is, is perez good enough to have had that 'off' on purpose? :lipsrsealed:
(http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr232/hunterneary/smileys/sherlock.gif)
Got to admit , it did seem a bit funny how the radio message was very cryptic , seeming to tell him to stay 2nd, only for him to make a mistake seconds later.
More strange as he did not put a foot wrong all day and even after that caught right back up
i don't think perez will go mid season, sauber kinda need him and seem reluctant to part with him mid season.
Sky just need to step back and leave F1 for big boys....BBC :rolleyes:
Susie Wolff would get it!
(http://www.blick.ch/img/incoming/origs1841721/0518789300-w644-h362-b2a2a2a/Susie-Wolff.jpg)
(http://kep.index.hu/1/0/281/2813/28133/2813322_1f0342524db6bb9fb0244217c334f7d2_wm.jpg)
Go williams!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17682392
FFS.... a 5 place grid penalty for Lewis in China as they have had to change the gearbox on his car.
I know its the same rules for everyone but this ruins the race a bit for me imo. Hopefully he will be able to make his way through the field pretty damn quick but the penalty doesn't give him much chance of a win this weekend.
FFS.... a 5 place grid penalty for Lewis in China as they have had to change the gearbox on his car.
I know its the same rules for everyone but this ruins the race a bit for me imo. Hopefully he will be able to make his way through the field pretty damn quick but the penalty doesn't give him much chance of a win this weekend.
I agree mate, I am a LH fan and now he will almost surely not win...JB will make up for this anyway! When did this even happen, I don't recall hearing anything about it. How long does the box have to last for, is it 3 races, and he has only done 2 on it right?
what was the reason behind the paint that I saw dripping off JB's front wing earlier?? :huh:
oh and today I met someone who hadn't heard of Nigel Mansell :huh:
what was the reason behind the paint that I saw dripping off JB's front wing earlier?? :huh:
oh and today I met someone who hadn't heard of Nigel Mansell :huh:
:grin: :grin:
oh and today I met someone who hadn't heard of Nigel Mansell :huh:
:grin: :grin:
and only vaguely knew of Damon Hill...
I wasn't going to waste my breath asking them if they knew Niki Lauda
what was the reason behind the paint that I saw dripping off JB's front wing earlier?? :huh:
a crafty way of testing the aero dynamics before the next upgrade?
what was the reason behind the paint that I saw dripping off JB's front wing earlier?? :huh:
a crafty way of testing the aero dynamics before the next upgrade?
This. It marks the air route over the car. Kinda like wind tunnel smoke but used when out on track.
Nick
what was the reason behind the paint that I saw dripping off JB's front wing earlier?? :huh:
a crafty way of testing the aero dynamics before the next upgrade?
This. It marks the air route over the car. Kinda like wind tunnel smoke but used when out on track.
Nick
who is this jesus you talk of ? :huh:
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59654000/jpg/_59654094_142865314.jpg)
LOOK AT MS!! :grin:
Looking forward for tomorrow race....will be amazing only if Mercedes can carry their qualifying pace in race :lipsrsealed:
Looking forward for tomorrow race....will be amazing only if Mercedes can carry their qualifying pace in race :lipsrsealed:
epic fail for kimi's tyres :laugh:
Not sure whether it was a snub or not but Martin Brundle while'st on the pit lane saw DC and tried to say hi but DC just walked straight past him....Is DC bitter or am I reading to much into it! (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/028.gif)
Not sure whether it was a snub or not but Martin Brundle while'st on the pit lane saw DC and tried to say hi but DC just walked straight past him....Is DC bitter or am I reading to much into it! (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/028.gif)
I doubt it. Brundle is DC's manager. He got him his TV gig in the first place.
Brundle was out of contract, DC wasn't, hence he's still at BBC.
Was the only one who had to really try hard to understand that Irish commentator who took over Ted K' job? I think someone mentioned it before but I have only just realised how thick his accent is! :grin:
Was the only one who had to really try hard to understand that Irish commentator who took over Ted K' job? I think someone mentioned it before but I have only just realised how thick his accent is! :grin:
:laugh: I thort that too so turned over to sky and heard Ted Kravitz and all was good again, few!!! :laugh:
Was the only one who had to really try hard to understand that Irish commentator who took over Ted K' job? I think someone mentioned it before but I have only just realised how thick his accent is! :grin:
:laugh: I thort that too so turned over to sky and heard Ted Kravitz and all was good again, few!!! :laugh:
He really is the wink link at the moment for the BBC team. Yes he is very knowledgeably, but he really is miles and miles behind Ted in terms of how he comes across on TV.
I really miss Ted from the BBC coverage, shame they could not keep him.
Natalie Pinkham would get it! :drool:
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"Sebastian Vettel needs a car in which certain conditions are met - and our car doesn't have these," Marko has been quoted as telling ServusTV.
What an awful thing to say about SV. Imagine saying that about a 2 time world champion...'Basically Seb you only won because of the car you aren't that good a driver.'
I fail to see how there is any truth in this. Look at the other teams and how they are coping with the rule changes. :rolleyes:
"Sebastian Vettel needs a car in which certain conditions are met - and our car doesn't have these," Marko has been quoted as telling ServusTV.
What an awful thing to say about SV. Imagine saying that about a 2 time world champion...'Basically Seb you only won because of the car you aren't that good a driver.'
I fail to see how there is any truth in this. Look at the other teams and how they are coping with the rule changes. :rolleyes:
I don't think SV is a good driver, well he's good.. Just not outstanding IMO.
"Sebastian Vettel needs a car in which certain conditions are met - and our car doesn't have these," Marko has been quoted as telling ServusTV.
What an awful thing to say about SV. Imagine saying that about a 2 time world champion...'Basically Seb you only won because of the car you aren't that good a driver.'
I fail to see how there is any truth in this. Look at the other teams and how they are coping with the rule changes. :rolleyes:
I don't think SV is a good driver, well he's good.. Just not outstanding IMO.
I don't think he was special, look at button last season where he went from last to poll position, now thats driving, with vettel he can drive but we never saw him do anything to wow or show his full potential. He just got in front and stayed there, I'd personally say the car is what won it IMO.
I was gonna say! The race that imortalised the phrase "felipe, fernando is faster than you" vettel went from pole to 18th and finnished on the podium! Nobody can deny the boys got skills, He's only human, He's not got on well with the car this year and as a guy who's passionate about driving and racing even i understand that you HAVE to be completely at peace with your machine to take it to the edge, i spend 10 hours a day in my transit and i can lap faster in that than my MG ZS 180 which all jokes aside is an astonishing car. It's all about finding a rythym and it's not working for him, luck of the draw!
gotta love the underdog, i do think that webber is probably the best driver never to win a world title ever! Eau rouge last year, nuff said!
bharain does not look like a happy place right now. i think even bernie can't fix this one, i gotta say, as much i want to see a race this week, i think it's best for all concerned if they pack up and come home.
Brundle just mentioned the FI missing from the TV during this session.
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I just puked :sick:
Does he not realise, or no body told him that he looks like the smuggest stupid prick idiot going when he does that gay 1 finger thing.
He only does it because it winds people up! I'd be the same...
He only does it because it winds people up! I'd be the same...
but he does look like a completely smug tw@t
He only does it because it winds people up! I'd be the same...
but he does look like a completely smug tw@t
Exactly! Yes if I was in his shoes I wud probably wud have done it once or twice but to do it all the time is just disrespectful to the other drivers, I mean we all know he's number 1.
Plus im not that sort of person to keep rubbing it in other peeps faces...
Like I said "it not as if we all don't know"
He only does it because it winds people up! I'd be the same...
but he does look like a completely smug tw@t
Exactly! Yes if I was in his shoes I wud probably wud have done it once or twice but to do it all the time is just disrespectful to the other drivers, I mean we all know he's number 1.
Plus im not that sort of person to keep rubbing it in other peeps faces...
Like I said "it not as if we all don't know"
Hope Lewis smokes him off the line!
oooooooooooooooooooooooo politics on a F1 thread, not a good thing :lipsrsealed:
He only does it because it winds people up! I'd be the same...
but he does look like a completely smug tw@t
Exactly! Yes if I was in his shoes I wud probably wud have done it once or twice but to do it all the time is just disrespectful to the other drivers, I mean we all know he's number 1.
Plus im not that sort of person to keep rubbing it in other peeps faces...
Like I said "it not as if we all don't know"
Hope Lewis smokes him off the line!
And then waves to Jenson as he overtakes on the outside of the bend whilst doing some light reading and some rather complicated quantum physics.. :wink:
He only does it because it winds people up! I'd be the same...
but he does look like a completely smug tw@t
Exactly! Yes if I was in his shoes I wud probably wud have done it once or twice but to do it all the time is just disrespectful to the other drivers, I mean we all know he's number 1.
Plus im not that sort of person to keep rubbing it in other peeps faces...
Like I said "it not as if we all don't know"
Hope Lewis smokes him off the line!
And then waves to Jenson as he overtakes on the outside of the bend whilst doing some light reading and some rather complicated quantum physics.. :wink:
I hope you are meaning Jenson overtaking SV on the outside of a bend! :lipsrsealed:
He only does it because it winds people up! I'd be the same...
but he does look like a completely smug tw@t
Exactly! Yes if I was in his shoes I wud probably wud have done it once or twice but to do it all the time is just disrespectful to the other drivers, I mean we all know he's number 1.
Plus im not that sort of person to keep rubbing it in other peeps faces...
Like I said "it not as if we all don't know"
Hope Lewis smokes him off the line!
And then waves to Jenson as he overtakes on the outside of the bend whilst doing some light reading and some rather complicated quantum physics.. :wink:
I hope you are meaning Jenson overtaking SV on the outside of a bend! :lipsrsealed:
no i meant Hamilton waving to Jenson as Jenson overtakes him and SV
Worst race of the season so far.
Thought Kimi would do him, was catching him it up nearly a second a lap but could not pass him.
Can see Hamilton leaving McLaren end of the season maybe as well
Kimi would not have been allowed to win, Red Bull have been the main Renault team for a long time.
Also why do Mclaren always screw things up when they were looking so good.
This had all the makings of a good season and yet after only 4 races Vettel is back on top.
Kimi would not have been allowed to win, Red Bull have been the main Renault team for a long time.
Also why do Mclaren always screw things up when they were looking so good.
This had all the makings of a good season and yet after only 4 races Vettel is back on top.
That's balls. Lotus and Red Bull are two entirely different teams who have entirely different backgrounds. Try and remember some of Lotus' past, it's the same factory Renault team that we used to have in F1, in which Alonso won 2 titles so if anything Lotus is the main Renault team.
yes, vettel is top, but it's a tight championship with multiple teams challenging for the win, what more do you want!
Red bull just buy renault engines, they're not related to renault at all other than the engine. Lotus is based at enstone, the old renault factory and most of the mechanics are from the renault days.
all next week and out of the 10 hours it is on next week, only 1 hour will be original content and not repeats.
Red bull just buy renault engines, they're not related to renault at all other than the engine. Lotus is based at enstone, the old renault factory and most of the mechanics are from the renault days.
Renault engines are based at Viri Chatilon in France, always have been, and since the Briatore days have had very little to do with the "renault" team which has been owned by just one man (and his holding companies/whatever) since Briatore left. Renault ditched the car side following that debarcle due to embarrassment and, more fundamentally, as they couldnt afford or justify that side of the business. Just because the car side guys are working at the same place as the old "renault" car factory and have been working in name as Renault, does not make them Renault and hasnt done for a long time now. Red bull are the factory team in terms of support and future development and have been for some time. Do you really think Renault would have allowed the "renault" team to put Lada sponsorship on their car otherwise? This is absolutely no different to Lotus/Caterham, there was never any link to Lotus cars except in name. Same for Sauber-BMW, the only connection to BMW in that case was the facilities that Sauber got back in a bargain deal. Oh and I suspect Red Bull do not pay anything for their engines ;).
He annoys me, and so does everyone at Sky apart from Brundle and Kravitz. Much rather watch BBC with DC, EJ and Jake.
georgie thompson can stay :drool:
nathalie pinkham just freaks me out though, she's like a super hot midget!
tbh the gp preview, be it bbc or sky is rarely worth watching, the program starts when the pit walk starts
georgie thompson can stay :drool:
nathalie pinkham just freaks me out though, she's like a super hot midget!
tbh the gp preview, be it bbc or sky is rarely worth watching, the program starts when the pit walk starts
Got to admit I love the pit walk, like that Brundle interrupts other peeps convo's with the drivers.... :laugh:
georgie thompson can stay :drool:
nathalie pinkham just freaks me out though, she's like a super hot midget!
tbh the gp preview, be it bbc or sky is rarely worth watching, the program starts when the pit walk starts
Got to admit I love the pit walk, like that Brundle interrupts other peeps convo's with the drivers.... :laugh:
He literally doesn't give a f! Love it.
Thompson used to look hotter, she looks like she wears too much make up and tries too hard. Teddy K does it for me :wink:
georgie thompson can stay :drool:
nathalie pinkham just freaks me out though, she's like a super hot midget!
tbh the gp preview, be it bbc or sky is rarely worth watching, the program starts when the pit walk starts
Got to admit I love the pit walk, like that Brundle interrupts other peeps convo's with the drivers.... :laugh:
He literally doesn't give a f! Love it.
Thompson used to look hotter, she looks like she wears too much make up and tries too hard. Teddy K does it for me :wink:
Wud have to agree with that, she's looking a bit tired nower days and yes try's to hard now, mr declan donnelly must of taken it out of her :laugh:
Bye bye poll for Hami. f**kKKKK!!! :angry:
Its a f**king joke. McLaren need to sort their act out big time!!! Bring back Ron :lipsrsealed:
Its a f**king joke. McLaren need to sort their act out big time!!! Bring back Ron :lipsrsealed:
+1
looked more like McHispania today, i've said this before, ever since the hungary last year that there needs to be a serious shake up at Mclaren, Ron dennis must be aware of whats going on, he has to step in surely, poor strategy, poor pit stops, poor maths, this has to stop! Doesn't look good AT ALL!
However, really really overjoyed for Williams! I do really hope he can hold off the pack for the first couple of laps, maldonado is really good off the start line so hopefully will be able to fend off grosean and alonso, i do quite fancy grojsean for the win though!
My guess is they tried to pull one off to save fuel so they can push for a bit longer during the race.
By stopping early in the inlap they save themselves that amount for the race. I know it's not a lot but in F1 half a lap of engine with full power available can be the difference between 1st and 2nd.
Really really feel for Hami, WTF are McLaren playing at... :angry:
Jenson needs to quit his whining, everytime it's not going his way...."Oh the under steer" theres loads of under steer....bored now!
Hami's got the same car for goodness sake and he seems to get the best out of it! Just shows you the true differences in quality between to two drivers...
Really really feel for Hami, WTF are McLaren playing at... :angry:
Jenson needs to quit his whining, everytime it's not going his way...."Oh the under steer" theres loads of under steer....bored now!
Hami's got the same car for goodness sake and he seems to get the best out of it! Just shows you the true differences in quality between to two drivers...
this seems to be jb answer everythime when some thing doesnt go his way i notice fp2 when he was on top he wasnt moaning
By stopping early in the inlap they save themselves that amount for the race. I know it's not a lot but in F1 half a lap of engine with full power available can be the difference between 1st and 2nd.
erm, they run alll 3 sessions empty
then fill it to the max for race days now
do they not
hence why he didnt have enough left for the inlap and testing
By stopping early in the inlap they save themselves that amount for the race. I know it's not a lot but in F1 half a lap of engine with full power available can be the difference between 1st and 2nd.
By stopping early in the inlap they save themselves that amount for the race. I know it's not a lot but in F1 half a lap of engine with full power available can be the difference between 1st and 2nd.
erm, they run alll 3 sessions empty
then fill it to the max for race days now
do they not
hence why he didnt have enough left for the inlap and testing
I thought they ran Q1 with the fuel and tyres they use on race day?
By stopping early in the inlap they save themselves that amount for the race. I know it's not a lot but in F1 half a lap of engine with full power available can be the difference between 1st and 2nd.
erm, they run alll 3 sessions empty
then fill it to the max for race days now
do they not
hence why he didnt have enough left for the inlap and testing
I thought they ran Q1 with the fuel and tyres they use on race day?
No that was the rules before they banned refuelling. thought you were a diehard F1 fan.... :tongue:
By stopping early in the inlap they save themselves that amount for the race. I know it's not a lot but in F1 half a lap of engine with full power available can be the difference between 1st and 2nd.
erm, they run alll 3 sessions empty
then fill it to the max for race days now
do they not
hence why he didnt have enough left for the inlap and testing
I thought they ran Q1 with the fuel and tyres they use on race day?
oooooooooo all along I thought it was fuel AND tyres.
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Never noticed tbh :grin:
Really really feel for Hami, WTF are McLaren playing at... :angry:
Jenson needs to quit his whining, everytime it's not going his way...."Oh the under steer" theres loads of under steer....bored now!
Hami's got the same car for goodness sake and he seems to get the best out of it! Just shows you the true differences in quality between to two drivers...
this seems to be jb answer everythime when some thing doesnt go his way i notice fp2 when he was on top he wasnt moaning
Disagree, I think JB just wants a decent car.. Lewis drives in a totally different way to Jenson.. You heard him complain of over and under steer..
Chuff, totally agree with you about the fuelling aspect too.. I don't know what they were thinking...
Really really feel for Hami, WTF are McLaren playing at... :angry:
Jenson needs to quit his whining, everytime it's not going his way...."Oh the under steer" theres loads of under steer....bored now!
Hami's got the same car for goodness sake and he seems to get the best out of it! Just shows you the true differences in quality between to two drivers...
this seems to be jb answer everythime when some thing doesnt go his way i notice fp2 when he was on top he wasnt moaning
Disagree, I think JB just wants a decent car.. Lewis drives in a totally different way to Jenson.. You heard him complain of over and under steer..
Chuff, totally agree with you about the fuelling aspect too.. I don't know what they were thinking...
JB has a decent car, he's driving the same machine as LH is he not? :undecided:
My point was...that there driving the same car so why can one driver make it work and another get it so wrong..
Same argument cud be made at Ferrari....
Really really feel for Hami, WTF are McLaren playing at... :angry:
Jenson needs to quit his whining, everytime it's not going his way...."Oh the under steer" theres loads of under steer....bored now!
Hami's got the same car for goodness sake and he seems to get the best out of it! Just shows you the true differences in quality between to two drivers...
this seems to be jb answer everythime when some thing doesnt go his way i notice fp2 when he was on top he wasnt moaning
Disagree, I think JB just wants a decent car.. Lewis drives in a totally different way to Jenson.. You heard him complain of over and under steer..
Chuff, totally agree with you about the fuelling aspect too.. I don't know what they were thinking...
JB has a decent car, he's driving the same machine as LH is he not? :undecided:
My point was...that there driving the same car so why can one driver make it work and another get it so wrong..
Same argument cud be made at Ferrari....
Driving style. JB and LH have opposite types of driving styles, and it seems this year's McLaren suits LH's style best.
McLaren are a disgrace... Another frigging cock up regarding the fuel level in Lewis's car for Q3.
A back of he grid penalty seems very harsh. He was in a class of his own throughout qualifying. I would have thought a 10 place penalty would have been fair and sufficient. Another one of Bernie's special rules? Do you think Vettel or Alono would have got he same penalty or am I being too cynical?
With Lewis's contract up at the end of the year I can't see him putting up with this much longer. Ferrari with Alonso could be a possibilty next year IMO. He seems quite pally with Alonso again so maybe they have burried the hatchet.
Good luck today Lewis for the race. I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do from he back, although a win looks like its impossible.
Tip for the next race though Lewis...... Try changing your own tyres and refuelling your car!
i think its more alonso driving the wheels off it rather than the car getting that much better,don't think any team boss will have hamilton and alonso in the same team again.alonso/perez,hami/rosberg and button/di resta for next year
I dont know what else to say about mclaren, heart in my mouth moment at that pitstop! However, vettels move on button was gorgeous, when is shumi going to complete a race without destroying a front wing, anyone with doubts about hamiltons skills can now STFU and GO MALDONADO!!!
Best race ever!
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http://www1.skysports.com/formula1/video/12870/7754160 (http://www1.skysports.com/formula1/video/12870/7754160)
Anyone else think that for all his good driving today, Pastor Maldonado still sounds like a special dish you would order at Zizzi's?? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Wicked, hope this raises more sponsership money for williams, Sir Frank looked chuffed! What an awesome 70th birthday present! I saw Hamilton went straight to the williams garage after the race!
what a race, F1 is back :cool:
even vettel found some balls and did some overtaking :laugh:
One thing that struck me was how polite and genuinely nice Senna was about the Schuey incident. Told it like it was but without accusing him of being wrong. Then Schuey gets a 5-place grid drop for what was CLEARLY his fault. Love it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/18053192
Anyone else think that for all his good driving today, Pastor Maldonado still sounds like a special dish you would order at Zizzi's?? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
WELL DONE SHUMY!! - the master in back :cool:
WELL DONE SHUMY!! - the master in back :cool:
Yes awesome bit of misjudgement in Spain which means he'll start 6th :grin: :grin:
WELL DONE SHUMY!! - the master in back :cool:
WELL DONE SHUMY!! - the master in back :cool:
Yes well done Shumy, he kept to his word....
massive shame about the penalty from the last race. i dont listen to the haters, been following him since the benetton days
i got to 38 and nowts happened yet :huh:
i got to 38 and nowts happened yet :huh:
no, there was a pit stop or two.. you must have missed that
i got to 38 and nowts happened yet :huh:
no, there was a pit stop or two.. you must have missed that
went to drop the kids off at the pool :wink:
Anyone heard owt about the whole RB rear hole issue yet? They said within 2.5hrs of the race ending a verdict should be drawn up...
Had a powercut as they were lining up ..... came back on on lap 76
Not gutted anymore after reading this!
I think F1 has outgrown Monaco to be honest.. The cars are too well matched and the track to narrow to be a worthwhile circuit.
I think monaco is great when it's wet, it's just carnage.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/18310767
Sorted. That is why Webber won, CHEAT :grin:
They could but they won't. If it was a Mclaren car thought it would be a different story.... :lipsrsealed: :angry:
They could but they won't. If it was a Mclaren car thought it would be a different story.... :lipsrsealed: :angry:
Car was exactley the same as they had in Malaysia and Bahrain
how come its illegal all of a sudden???
:huh: :huh:
If they are illegal can they or should they not disqualify him and Vettel from the race results? :undecided:
If they are illegal can they or should they not disqualify him and Vettel from the race results? :undecided:
Nope as nobody protested at the time, that would or could have changed the race result.
Thought several of the teams protested before Monaco but the FIA wanted to deal with it after the race..
Nothing will happen as it's not McLaren who are at fault!!
Monaco was always the must see GP for me; for years and years Senna vs Mansell etc.... But now it's just so fecking boring...
I counted 1 overtake this race and that was when Schumacher's engine was on it's way out... Even Brundell said there were only 16 passes last year - I must have missed 14 of them...
Time for it to move on or do something about the circuit to make overtaking possible...
Kers & DRS made not 1 difference this race... Also Pirelli didn't help - they should have given the teams cars that would have to make at least 3 stops - IMO
Also Bring back Refuelling.... So we can see some proper racing rather than watching cars that can't get anywhere near qually times until the end of the race...
I Don't like to agree with Schuy but we aren't seeing the best of the drivers as they are only driving to the best of the tyres and to me that's just not F1...
We need to see the drivers - driving to the best of what THEY can do - on the edge not making the car last for 30 laps on 1 set of tyres...
Heads need to start to roll if this continues this season, right from the top down
Heads need to start to roll if this continues this season, right from the top down
Alright mate, calm down! Jezzzz, Mr Hitler over there :wink: :grin: :grin:
I agree, it is poor. But I was thinking, if LH and JB got offered a place at either Merc/RB/Ferrari would they take it? All the teams are so even at the mo. I know where I'd rather be, good old Mclaren :smiley:
Heads need to start to roll if this continues this season, right from the top down
Alright mate, calm down! Jezzzz, Mr Hitler over there :wink: :grin: :grin:
I agree, it is poor. But I was thinking, if LH and JB got offered a place at either Merc/RB/Ferrari would they take it? All the teams are so even at the mo. I know where I'd rather be, good old Mclaren :smiley:
They are only hurting themselves in the constructors though.. LH and JB must be fuming atm.
The issue with the floor blew up at the Monaco Grand Prix, where rivals McLaren, Ferrari, Mercedes and Lotus objected to the holes on the basis that they broke rules dictating that the floor has to remain "impervious".
The holes in the floor were on the Red Bull when they won the Bahrain and Monaco Grands Prix with Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber.
But the team have rejected claims that they had won with an illegal car, saying that it was legal at the time and had only been declared not so afterwards.
Red Bull forced to change something else on the car: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/100230
I'm finding this whole technical thing regarding the red bull really annoying. If they have had all these bits approved during the season then that should be the end of it. Simple. It reminds me of the Mclaren brake steer fiasco.
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/05/24/banned-mclarens-rear-brake-pedal/
It just goes to show that the rule makers in F1 are a bunch of muppets.
build up is at 1730 I believe
Build up at 17:30 but race doesn't start till 19:00, football will be over by then :smiley:
Unlucky Monobrow :grin: :grin: :grin:
Unlucky Monobrow :grin: :grin: :grin:
:grin: :grin:
You sure they are two stopping??
Of course we are.........
If today was down to no time friday what about Monaco? Barcelona?
I think Button is a great driver only when is is 100% happy with the car but Lewis will drive the nuts off the car every time and that makes him one of the best drivers out there,
If today was down to no time friday what about Monaco? Barcelona?
I think Button is a great driver only when is is 100% happy with the car but Lewis will drive the nuts off the car every time and that makes him one of the best drivers out there,
I agree, Button has been awful this season, yes McLaren have not helped in some races , but take away his win in Aus and the 2nd place in China, he has finished , 9th, 14th , 16th , 16th and 18th.
Compare that to Lewis , who has one win, three 3rd place finishes, a 5th place and two 8th place finishes. He also has two poles to Button's zero poles.
I personally think Button is out of the Championship now , down in 8th place and 43 points behind
First views of the Jersey street course with Seb "rhymes with Kettle " Vettel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bug18V2yxP4&feature=player_embedded#!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18522111
What does this mean for the owner of F1 then...Surely he shouldn't still be running the show. Look at the state of him
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Should he be punished for making bribes? :undecided:
Mclaren seriously fcuk me off...
wouldnt be surprised if LH leaves
Mclaren seriously fcuk me off...
wouldnt be surprised if LH leaves
He needs to leave..they are just a f**king joke at the moment
After seeing it a few times LH was on the track and PM clearly wasnt. You can also see (in the sky review) that his car is on the kerb and when he turns his steering the car just continues straight on.
He could of just as easily used the run off and rejoined... LH was on the line.
i blame sam michael :grin: has brought williams bad luck from last season to mclaren
the pit stop error looked like a faulty jack
dont overreact lol, hamilton has done worse
it was maldonado's fault, regardless of him being on the track or not. LH was ahead going into the corner, therefore it was his corner and maldonado has to back off if there is no space.
i blame sam michael :grin: has brought williams bad luck from last season to mclaren
the pit stop error looked like a faulty jack
Please remind me...
i blame sam michael :grin: has brought williams bad luck from last season to mclaren
the pit stop error looked like a faulty jack
two of them?
Please remind me...
well a very relevant example is hamilton vs maldonado at monaco 2011, remember that one? He pulled a similar move from behind on Massa in the very same race, both examples he had no right to go up the inside.
What about him taking out massa at the indian gp 2011, very similar situation to the above examples.
What about him crashing into a stationary raikkonen in the pits at canada 2008, probably the biggest rookie mistake ever
want more?
Also what was the verdict on what failed on vettels car, I know the othe car had the alternator go, but nothing was said on vettels car in terms of failure.
Craig Scarborough @ScarbsF1
F1 alternators, mounted low down alongside the engine, create 22a, weigh just 750g & are 7cm long x 5cm dia
I'm currently laughing at the papers reports (and Farce rarri) saying how good Alonso is.
Only reason he won was because he was gifted first place, and then Grosjean alternator failed.
He did alright to come up from 11th, but it was never going to be his race if people weren't dropping out like flies.
I'm currently laughing at the papers reports (and Farce rarri) saying how good Alonso is.
Only reason he won was because he was gifted first place, and then Grosjean alternator failed.
He did alright to come up from 11th, but it was never going to be his race if people weren't dropping out like flies.
To be fair to Alonso, he is driving a very average Ferrari but sits 20 points clear at the top of the championship.
I'm currently laughing at the papers reports (and Farce rarri) saying how good Alonso is.
Only reason he won was because he was gifted first place, and then Grosjean alternator failed.
He did alright to come up from 11th, but it was never going to be his race if people weren't dropping out like flies.
To be fair to Alonso, he is driving a very average Ferrari but sits 20 points clear at the top of the championship.
Being fair to Alonso, he's a very average driver.
The real racing happens between 4-10 positions. Look at Raikkonen and Grosjean, Lotus (Renault) not a brilliant car, but they are both driving the wheels off them.
Maldonado - Yes he's a clumsy tit but gets very respectable results with not a lot of car.
Perez - As above.
Kobayashi - As above - although more exciting to watch in some cases.
Afraid I am real yes.
Alonso is very average in my opinion. Then again, maybe I like watching racing and not 4 teams play strategy games. :lipsrsealed:
I think it was more than adequate punishment the 20seconds penalty. I think if the crash never happened Hamilton still wouldn't have finished on the podium, think he would of still got overtaken. He was defending well but the tires where not helping him at all in handling as hard as he was trying.
Good race, glad for micheal, it was good to see him on the podium after all that time.
From reading various articles the London GP looks like one big publicity stunt.
As a Londoner Id f**king love it but am far from holding my breath.
From reading various articles the London GP looks like one big publicity stunt.
As a Londoner Id f**king love it but am far from holding my breath.
As above..the whole thing was a publicity stunt, no mistake it came out the same day the bloke in the bribe case was jailed for 8 years..what got more coverage? The London GP, so it worked for Bernie.
They have tried before with the London GP, it will never work imo
From reading various articles the London GP looks like one big publicity stunt.
As a Londoner Id f**king love it but am far from holding my breath.
As above..the whole thing was a publicity stunt, no mistake it came out the same day the bloke in the bribe case was jailed for 8 years..what got more coverage? The London GP, so it worked for Bernie.
They have tried before with the London GP, it will never work imo
This.
I'm struggling to even imagine on which roads it would be held on! 90% of the roads in the city centre either have massive pot holes, crazy amounts of drains that aren't flush, road islands in the middle or 43652 traffic wardens monitoring them 24/7 :rolleyes:
Think of: closures of some tube stations, then road closures, some form of safety barriers, the police
you could only do it round Hyde park/Mall area, everywhere else is too twisty and bumpy to allow overtaking.
Would be like Monaco with odd results and no overtaking, still worth day out though
The route will be to croyden and back, where the idea will be to avoid the pits (kwik fit), as the last thing you want is your wheels stolen, while your chassis sits on bricks with the mechanic named bob telling you it's your front windscreen wiper that's at fault.
you could only do it round Hyde park/Mall area, everywhere else is too twisty and bumpy to allow overtaking.
Would be like Monaco with odd results and no overtaking, still worth day out though
Where are the pits going to be built???
you could only do it round Hyde park/Mall area, everywhere else is too twisty and bumpy to allow overtaking.
Would be like Monaco with odd results and no overtaking, still worth day out though
Where are the pits going to be built???
Out the front of her majesty's gaff!
(Who Owns Some Of The Circuits Inc Spa)!!!
(Who Owns Some Of The Circuits Inc Spa)!!!
Are you absolutely sure they own Spa???? He used to own Paul Ricard (and may still do through some other front) but Im pretty sure that with Spa being public roads it isnt owned by any Ecclestone....
No Women driver jokes....
But f**k me this looks bad :shocked:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-2168116/Marussia-driver-Maria-De-Villota-fighting-life-crash-ahead-British-Grand-Prix.html
Hope she pulls through, could have had a drive last week too iirc. :sad:
Hope she pulls through, could have had a drive last week too iirc. :sad:
She doesn't own a super licence so she can't drive an F1 car at an FIA event, hence why Marussia ran 1 car only.
I hope she fully recovers, she was possibly going to be the first female F1 driver.
She's lost her right eye. That's her career over then. Such a massive shame.
not quiteHope she pulls through, could have had a drive last week too iirc. :sad:
She doesn't own a super licence so she can't drive an F1 car at an FIA event, hence why Marussia ran 1 car only.
I hope she fully recovers, she was possibly going to be the first female F1 driver.
f**king alonso!
lets just hope there is a race tomorrow
in your face to all A L O N S O haters :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
f**king alonso!
lets just hope there is a race tomorrow
If it is anything like today, we will have most of the race behind the safety car.
Was unfair how they did the qualifying today, should of just finished the 6 minutes like Gary Anderson said , at that point Alonso was last I think, but now he starts from pole.
Hopefully be a good race
ooooooooooooo a new sport
10 pin bowling using humans instead of pins and F1 car instead of a ball
Now THATS entertainment
Worst race for a very long time. Could of done with some rain today
A disappointing day for the Brits. That McLaren hasn't improved compared with the other major teams. Was hoping Lewis was going to push for the title this year. You never know though still quite a few races to go but I can't see it some how.
Glad Webber won in the end, deserved the win.
the sooner they get rid of these crap tyres the better, i want to see racing not preserving
Mclaren cartoon anyone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld8-VW-0D2M&feature=youtu.be :smiley:
I did a deal like that last year, was bloody epic.
Only thing I would say is that its not very good viewing for watching the race unless you spend thousands and thousands of pounds. Was still an immense experience.
what do you think of today's practice? does red bull performance went down for banning engine map settings or is it something else?
im losing interest quick in f1 aswell as many other people i know
True, problem is, we have all been spoilt over the last 3 seasons now with great racing at almost every single race, so when we get a few where the racing is not so great seems a big come down!
The championship is shaping up very well though. Kimi could be a great outside bet to win. The Lotus car is getting stronger and stronger , but Alonso is still the favourite to win I guess. If Lewis can not win it, my choice would then be Webber, be nice to see him win a Championship.
True, problem is, we have all been spoilt over the last 3 seasons now with great racing at almost every single race, so when we get a few where the racing is not so great seems a big come down!
The championship is shaping up very well though. Kimi could be a great outside bet to win. The Lotus car is getting stronger and stronger , but Alonso is still the favourite to win I guess. If Lewis can not win it, my choice would then be Webber, be nice to see him win a Championship.
I agree.
Hamilton even said it would have been hard to to keep Lotus at bay if it was easier to overtake!
And who will fill Lewis' seat in McLaren? Di Resta? I hope not, really not like him. I say give a young one a chance, someone like Perez or Kobayashi. They car both easily win if given the right car and both are exciting to watch.
Big mistake for me. McLaren had a very bad start to the season, but the last 3 races they have really got their act together. If he had not been taken out this weekend in the first corner I have no doubt he would of finished in the top 3.
If I was him, I would join Lotus as this season their car has been very good and always been there or there about's in each race, him and Kimi could be a good team. As Grosjean will be leaving at the end of season I would think. Can see Lotus being very strong next season.
Has anyone read this -
So why not get back to what F1 is really about..... THE FASTEST CAR & BEST DRIVER....
Earlier on in the season some teams even stopped their drivers from going out in Q3 to keep their tyres fresh.
singapore is on the calender for another 5 years (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/sleep-031.gif)
singapore is on the calender for another 5 years (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/sleep-031.gif)
grosjean to lock up and wipe out alonso 1st corner :laugh:
oh dear Lewis :sad:
oh dear Lewis :sad:
Ditto. Poor lad. Two retirements in two races for Mclaren. Having said that only 40 gear changes a lap at Monza and 80 at Singapore. I had an idea something sh!tty might happen. :sad:
smashie smashie!
think vettel has jensen covered :cry:
Really do not like the Singapore GP. Always sends me to sleep each year. Shame it now has the contract until 2017.
Can't see Lewis winning the championship now, very far behind
Really do not like the Singapore GP. Always sends me to sleep each year. Shame it now has the contract until 2017.
Can't see Lewis winning the championship now, very far behind
trouble is the drivers in front don't see them coming and turn in on them, not such a problem on traditional circuits
bye bye and good riddance, hopefully the grass wont be as green as he thinks its going to be :whistle:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-2209707/Lewis-Hamilton-replaces-Michael-Schumacher-Mercedes.html?openGraphAuthor=%2Fhome%2Fsearch.html%3Fs%3D%26authornamef%3DJonathan%2BMcEvoy
you read the Daily Fail? :huh:
you read the Daily Fail? :huh:
could be worse, could be The Sun :lipsrsealed:
:tongue:
you read the Daily Fail? :huh:
could be worse, could be The Sun :lipsrsealed:
:tongue:
Heard a rumour at work, merc were thinking of pulling out, Bernie steps in and says he will get them Hamilton and pay most of his wages to keep them in :shocked:
You do have to think about 2014 and the new engine regs. Works teams like Mercedes and Ferrari are going to be ahead in terms of development. Ferrari have already built and dyno tested a 2014 spec engine and mercedes are thereabout too. Right now it seems like a step backwards, seeing as mclaren consistently finished ahead of mercedes in the championship however in 2 year's time it may be very different. I think change was needed, Hamilton has been with mclaren for 5 years now and has won 1 championship so it's not like he's throwing everything away.
Money may have been a bit of a stumbling block in the negotiations though - due to having to pay for their Mercedes engines, they didn't have the budget to up or even equal his wages so he would have had to take a pay cut. Simple fact is that McLaren couldn't really afford him.
I reckon what's happened is (in very basic terms, without all the legal wrangles, endorsements etc) that Lewis said something along the lines of "Look guys, I've been to another team, they've offered me £x. If you can match it I'll stay". They couldn't and/or wouldn't so bye bye.
I have to say it's about time that a fresh face appeared in one of the top teams.
Wonder what price you would have got at the beginning of this season for Perez being at McLaren in 2013??? :shocked:
Another 12 moths and they'd have taken him off to France without telling his paremts!
IMHO... Which maybe nuts... But it makes more common sense to me anyway...
LH has left; Not for money... He has enough anyway, all he wants is to win another WC, He must emulate Senna no matter what (Senna was the same when he moved to Williams...)
Why change when mercedes is better than renault?
Renault engines are the most underpowered of the whole grid, including cosworth. They are also not as reliable as Vettel demonstrated a few times this season already. The best engine out there is Ferrari. It's reliable and quick. Mercedes is close behind.
http://www.totalf1.com/full_story/view/430178/New_F1_engines_to_be_scrapped_says_Ecclestone/
good move hami :grin:
http://www.totalf1.com/full_story/view/430178/New_F1_engines_to_be_scrapped_says_Ecclestone/
good move hami :grin:
Because Luca and Bernie didn't like the noise haha what a joke pair those nob ends are!
"Todt will probably scrap it".......will Ferrari International Assistance ever end!
Luca - Ferrari TP.
Todt - Former Ferrari TP.
Bernie - A complete prick.
This was Bernie and Todt at war in 2010 over the proposed V4 engine regs for 2013. :grin:
http://blogs.bettor.com/Bernie-Ecclestone-criticises-Jean-Todt-over-V4-engines,-says-FIA-is-a-joke-Formula-1-a59875
This was Bernie trying to postpone the engine regs in June this year.... :sick:
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/6/12134.html
And here's Bernie again being a c unt. Although Renault and Mercedes disagreed and Bernie's favourite bum boys Ferrari said, 'Ferrari dismiss rumours they would prefer them to be dropped, by saying they will happen.'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/2012/06/engine_dispute_threatens_f1_sc.html
All in all. Bernie is a sh!t stirring c unt. But a clever one and it'll be a 50/50 as to whether or not it does get postponed.
:whistle:
I know the politics stink, but keeping the current engines is better than poxy 1.6 turbo's, non?
Shui retires, again
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19826983
about time really :rolleyes:
It's a shame really, purely because he's a household name in F1. I was never a fan of his but massive respect for what he's achieved in his career. I would have liked to see him race at Sauber or Ferrari for 1 last year. He will be missed.
have to say.. apart from the first corner... that was a pretty dull race :sad:
have to say.. apart from the first corner... that was a pretty dull race :sad:
Unfortunately most races are a bit dull these days, i prefer the Moto GP to F1 now. :sad:
anyone know what the Red Bull double DRS is all about? :huh:
anyone know what the Red Bull double DRS is all about? :huh:
Air enters a hole on the left hand rear wing endplate when DRS is activated and is redirected down to around the centre beam/diffuser, it's still not clear exactly where, but it stalls the rear wing to reduce drag, for a further boost in top speed.
My bad, just found out Jenson never followed me. Don't blame him! Need to be on Twitter more!
anyone know what the Red Bull double DRS is all about? :huh:
Air enters a hole on the left hand rear wing endplate when DRS is activated and is redirected down to around the centre beam/diffuser, it's still not clear exactly where, but it stalls the rear wing to reduce drag, for a further boost in top speed.
crikey... that sounds very similar to something else they were mucking about with on the holes and the air being directed to some kind of wings on the rear wheel hubs iirc
Hamilton just tweeted thisQuoteMy bad, just found out Jenson never followed me. Don't blame him! Need to be on Twitter more!
Mercedes / Lewis Hamilton 2013 contract
As a driver for the mercedes petronas GP F1 team you must comply with team regulations and follow orders directed to you either by radio or by pitboard. You must also NOT tweet telemetry, cause friction within the team or make references to you being black. You must also never tell the media about the huge & crazy amount of money we paid for you to drive for this team.
Kind Regards
Ross Brawn
Bet it was something along those lines ;D
Gobsh!te, tweets like he drives, acts first, thinks later!
FairPlay for actually putting it out there that he was wrong
Gobsh!te, tweets like he drives, acts first, thinks later!
FairPlay for actually putting it out there that he was wrong
The guy's a genius driver. Just completely clueless when it comes to being PR and media savvy....no f**king wonder with XIX as his management team!
Love the way he totally owned Perez at turn 11. Give Serg a couple of years and he'll be up to pace, but I'll eat my hat, if out performs Button next year!
Everyone has been banging on about what a great season he's had, but he's only got 16 points more than Kobayashi and it's still unsure of whether or not Kamui will keep his drive.....f**king joke!
Gobsh!te, tweets like he drives, acts first, thinks later!
FairPlay for actually putting it out there that he was wrong
The guy's a genius driver. Just completely clueless when it comes to being PR and media savvy....no f**king wonder with XIX as his management team!
Love the way he totally owned Perez at turn 11. Give Serg a couple of years and he'll be up to pace, but I'll eat my hat, if out performs Button next year!
Everyone has been banging on about what a great season he's had, but he's only got 16 points more than Kobayashi and it's still unsure of whether or not Kamui will keep his drive.....f**king joke!
So He should stop tweeting... and save his best to the race track....
Gobsh!te, tweets like he drives, acts first, thinks later!
FairPlay for actually putting it out there that he was wrong
The guy's a genius driver. Just completely clueless when it comes to being PR and media savvy....no f**king wonder with XIX as his management team!
Love the way he totally owned Perez at turn 11. Give Serg a couple of years and he'll be up to pace, but I'll eat my hat, if out performs Button next year!
Everyone has been banging on about what a great season he's had, but he's only got 16 points more than Kobayashi and it's still unsure of whether or not Kamui will keep his drive.....f**king joke!
So He should stop tweeting... and save his best to the race track....
Absolutely.....But at the same time in regards to driving. I'd rather have a grid packed full of Hamilton's, Montoya's, Senna's, Kobayshi's, Alonso's....than all the other boring f**kwits driving at the minute!
Gobsh!te, tweets like he drives, acts first, thinks later!
FairPlay for actually putting it out there that he was wrong
The guy's a genius driver. Just completely clueless when it comes to being PR and media savvy....no f**king wonder with XIX as his management team!
Love the way he totally owned Perez at turn 11. Give Serg a couple of years and he'll be up to pace, but I'll eat my hat, if out performs Button next year!
Everyone has been banging on about what a great season he's had, but he's only got 16 points more than Kobayashi and it's still unsure of whether or not Kamui will keep his drive.....f**king joke!
So He should stop tweeting... and save his best to the race track....
Absolutely.....But at the same time in regards to driving. I'd rather have a grid packed full of Hamilton's, Montoya's, Senna's, Kobayshi's, Alonso's....than all the other boring f**kwits driving at the minute!
It isn't their fault that they are boring. The cars that 16 of them drive are just too slow to keep up let alone compete with the top teams....
Gobsh!te, tweets like he drives, acts first, thinks later!
FairPlay for actually putting it out there that he was wrong
The guy's a genius driver. Just completely clueless when it comes to being PR and media savvy....no f**king wonder with XIX as his management team!
Love the way he totally owned Perez at turn 11. Give Serg a couple of years and he'll be up to pace, but I'll eat my hat, if out performs Button next year!
Everyone has been banging on about what a great season he's had, but he's only got 16 points more than Kobayashi and it's still unsure of whether or not Kamui will keep his drive.....f**king joke!
So He should stop tweeting... and save his best to the race track....
Absolutely.....But at the same time in regards to driving. I'd rather have a grid packed full of Hamilton's, Montoya's, Senna's, Kobayshi's, Alonso's
....than all the other boring f**kwits driving at the minute!
anyone know what the Red Bull double DRS is all about? :huh:
Air enters a hole on the left hand rear wing endplate when DRS is activated and is redirected down to around the centre beam/diffuser, it's still not clear exactly where, but it stalls the rear wing to reduce drag, for a further boost in top speed.
crikey... that sounds very similar to something else they were mucking about with on the holes and the air being directed to some kind of wings on the rear wheel hubs iirc
Unline mercedes DDRS though, the RB system only stalls the rear wing, giving the rear even less downforce than DRS alone. This means that when the DRS is open the car is unbalanced even further than DRS alone. because the front is still producing full downforce. This means that opening DRS in the middle of the corner will make the car much more twitchy at the rear than any other car, increasing chances of going off. Mercedes have an advantage with their system as it reduces the drag at the rear with the wing flap, and stalls the front wing at the same time, keeping the car's balance the same, just at lower downforce levels. This means even though they'll have less downforce with DRS open they will still have the balance to push through a corner.
If that makes sense :undecided: :smiley:
I have to agree, getting sick of seeing Vettel on the podium yawn....
Winners should carry ballast into the next race or only go to Q2, that would even it up.
After lap 20 I fell asleep, quite literally. Shame to see vettel in yet another dominating car, 3rd gifted championship.
Gutted for Button. I had high hopes for him doing a stormer being able to start on the harder tyre. Perhaps it would have come to nothing anyway judging by how Hami's McLaren destroyed it's tyres.
The reaction after he punted Mark Webber out in Japan on Sunday was widespread, negative and strongly suggestive that action against the driver should be taken. Webber himself branded him a "nutcase"; the Red Bull principal, Christian Horner, said that it was "unacceptable" and that "his team need to get him under a bit more control"; while Jenson Button said he should "sort his sh!t out".
surprised no one has mentioned vettels possible move to ferrari?? :huh:
2 of the top 3 drivers.... they mean business... as for mclaren :lipsrsealed:
Vettle on pole again..he is going win it again this season by the looks of it.
As the season has gone on my interest has nearly hit rock bottom.
I do worry for McLaren next season.
Button is a good driver but not in the same class as a Hamilton, Alonso or Vettel.
I like Perez, but not as a replacement for Hamilton. As for Hamilton next season and beyond, I hope for his sake that the new rules for engines work in favour of Mercedes as right now they are awful and have been a very average team since the change over from Brawn.
anyone else think it started in 5 mins :angry: :laugh:
What a sh!t GP. Same as last year.....
Just been watching it on the BBC as was not up to watch it live due to my little un keeping me up to 5am!
Turned it off though after 6 laps and said to my girlfriend Vettle will win..and just looked and he did.
So predictable , even after 6 laps. Can't see anyone but him winning it now, seeing as Red Bull are so far ahead in terms of pace.
Pretty sh!te that a car financed by a drinks company is able to be so much better than racing teams like Ferrari and McLaren, season after season.
As for McLaren, big changes have to happen here. Only one world championship winner in 13 years and no constructors win in 14 years. With just Button and Perez next season, I think you can add another year for each of those figures.
dont think webber read the team orders for that qualifying :grin: :laugh:
Just announced. Vettel handed penalty to start from back of grid for not making it back to pits. This opens up the championship right open.
Alooooonso!!!!!
He's got to start from pit lane fella, so even further behind. :grin:
He's got to start from pit lane fella, so even further behind. :grin:
They sent him back of the grid, there he can choose to start from pitlane or not.
The IceMan returneth!
You've got to love Kimi just for his radio input in that race!
teehee kimi said sh!t
I turned it off, yet again :rolleyes:
Thom
Webber was lucky not to get a penalty imo. Twice going round on the outside on the same corner and both resulting in shunts.
I'm rooting for Alonso, a bit of rain and a final win for Lewis.
Lets hope someone collects Vettel and Webber in turn 1, Alonso has been the best driver out there punching above his cars performance every race.
Really don't want either of them to take the title.. Dislike both of them.
Hope Jensen takes the win :)
massa to have a brake failure at turn 1? :lipsrsealed:
:grin: @ raikkonen
Why did MSC let Vettel breeze through? :undecided:
Being far too kind there!
how is that car still running after being hit twice :shocked:
The grandstand shook when Vettel go hit. Alonso is the real champion in my opinion though, that car was 5th fastest at best.
Such a shame, this season promised much yet finger boy lucked his way to another championship.
Should have been Alonso or Hamilton.
Sorry but Vettel is not the greatest racing driver in the world as they seem to keep saying, what worries me is that next season I can see him getting no 4 as Mclaren I fear will struggle, Ferrari will be close but not close enough.
I'm really looking forward to seeing what LH can do in the Mercedes next year. Perhaps we will see how really good he is driving a so called lessor car. I think its going to be a tough year for him though and can't help thinking he has made a mistake leaving Mclaren. However who knows, long term it maybe a good choice as I'm sure Mercedes will have the resources to build a decent car.
It's all about the 1.6 v6 turbos :lipsrsealed:
Not taking away anything from him, but it seems apart from the top 3 teams, the other cars might as well not even bother.
And i dislike the one fingered w4nk3r :laugh:
Like him or not, and yes he had some luck, but 3 years on the trot, the bloke is talented. :smiley:
He is in a team built around him
best strategy team on the wall. And like Chuff has said he HAS proved he can overtake from the back of the grid.
erm, and mclaren with hamilton wasnt :huh:
i dont think vettel one of the greats yer hes good but i think alot of it to do with his car being so good. Michael schumacher is a great to me
i dont think vettel one of the greats yer hes good but i think alot of it to do with his car being so good. Michael schumacher is a great to me
Agreed...... but also a cheat. I still haven't forgiven him for knocking D.Hill out in the Australian GP in 94.
Watched that live at some stupid hour of the morning and was gutted. Hill should really have been a double world champion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW0t4Ug11v8
He looks a really good prospect.
Not sure Williams should of kept Pastor though over Senna. Yes he is quick, but he is always being punished or doing mistakes in the race.
He looks a really good prospect.
Not sure Williams should of kept Pastor though over Senna. Yes he is quick, but he is always being punished or doing mistakes in the race.
There's a really good reason they kept him. Money.
He looks a really good prospect.
Not sure Williams should of kept Pastor though over Senna. Yes he is quick, but he is always being punished or doing mistakes in the race.
There's a really good reason they kept him. Money.
Win in Spain must help too...
Frank Williams Quote;
“Valtteri is quite simply one of the most talented young racing drivers I have come across and we expect great things from him in the future.
He looks a really good prospect.
Not sure Williams should of kept Pastor though over Senna. Yes he is quick, but he is always being punished or doing mistakes in the race.
There's a really good reason they kept him. Money.
Win in Spain must help too...
Frank Williams Quote;
“Valtteri is quite simply one of the most talented young racing drivers I have come across and we expect great things from him in the future.
Yep he did win in Spain, but then scored 0 points at all in the following 9 races, which is very poor.
I personally think Senna is a better driver. Much more consistent and a hell of a lot better temperament. Money talks though
some people watching on sky posted about this... but did anyone actually see it live??
strange facts :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
http://www.mercedes-amg-f1.com/en/#/s/news/1987/michael-the-magnificent-seven
I see Grosjean won the Race of Champions this weekend, beating some big names too, including Vettle in the quarter finals then Schumacher in the semis, then in the final he beat 8 time Le Mans champion Tom Kristensen.
Shows that Grosjean does have a hell of a lot of skill, we have all seen this season his speed is good, just needs to calm down the first couple of laps and think he could be a real prospect.
As for Vettle, well, 7 years in a row he has competed and not once has he made the final. Lucky for him he has a awesome RedBull car to race in for F1. No surprise though to see Vettle and Schumacher win the nations cup for the 6th time in a row, more down to Schumacher
I see Grosjean won the Race of Champions this weekend, beating some big names too, including Vettle in the quarter finals then Schumacher in the semis, then in the final he beat 8 time Le Mans champion Tom Kristensen.
Shows that Grosjean does have a hell of a lot of skill, we have all seen this season his speed is good, just needs to calm down the first couple of laps and think he could be a real prospect.
As for Vettle, well, 7 years in a row he has competed and not once has he made the final. Lucky for him he has a awesome RedBull car to race in for F1. No surprise though to see Vettle and Schumacher win the nations cup for the 6th time in a row, more down to Schumacher
But why would you take a bit of fun as serious as F1? He's world champion again and has nothing to prove unlike Grosjean
I see Grosjean won the Race of Champions this weekend, beating some big names too, including Vettle in the quarter finals then Schumacher in the semis, then in the final he beat 8 time Le Mans champion Tom Kristensen.I wonder if that had anything to do with Lotus keeping him on?? :D
Shows that Grosjean does have a hell of a lot of skill, we have all seen this season his speed is good, just needs to calm down the first couple of laps and think he could be a real prospect.
As for Vettle, well, 7 years in a row he has competed and not once has he made the final. Lucky for him he has a awesome RedBull car to race in for F1. No surprise though to see Vettle and Schumacher win the nations cup for the 6th time in a row, more down to Schumacher
I see Grosjean won the Race of Champions this weekend, beating some big names too, including Vettle in the quarter finals then Schumacher in the semis, then in the final he beat 8 time Le Mans champion Tom Kristensen.
Shows that Grosjean does have a hell of a lot of skill, we have all seen this season his speed is good, just needs to calm down the first couple of laps and think he could be a real prospect.
As for Vettle, well, 7 years in a row he has competed and not once has he made the final. Lucky for him he has a awesome RedBull car to race in for F1. No surprise though to see Vettle and Schumacher win the nations cup for the 6th time in a row, more down to Schumacher
But why would you take a bit of fun as serious as F1? He's world champion again and has nothing to prove unlike Grosjean
:grin: As if these guys aren't competitive with each other when in any kind of competition. :grin:
Suzi Perry to replace Jake on the BBC! Cue some serious flirting from DC! :evil:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/
At least there will be something nice to look at on race weekend.
Suzi Perry to replace Jake on the BBC! Cue some serious flirting from DC! :evil:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/
At least there will be something nice to look at on race weekend.
let's hope Lee McKenzie is still reporting on F1 :drool:
Watched them all on F1 channel 408
Racing legends on now on bbc2 is worth a watch. Tonight its on on Jackie Stewart. Last nights episode was on Stirling Moss and can be seen on bbc iplayer :wink:
Certainly won't help the fact today rear brake problems put him in the barrier :undecided:
I assume you have all seen this from redbull factory...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t6cxIeCIjE
And in other news, Marussia don't screw on brake fluid cap properly...
(http://www.racecar-engineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/upmarusi.jpg)
And my work colleague defends the little lad that drives for marussia (who has been a friend of his from school) by stating he has 'talent', shortly after he piles into the gravel and someone on twitter asks 'has his dad not ran out of funding yet?... which was my point entirely given his sh!t carting record.
A friend of mine is in Jerez watching this. She had a drink with Suzy Perry & Gary Anderson. SO not fair!!! :laugh:
A friend of mine is in Jerez watching this. She had a drink with Suzy Perry & Gary Anderson. SO not fair!!! :laugh:
I feel sorry for your mate. Perry will ruin F1 like she did MotoGP
A friend of mine is in Jerez watching this. She had a drink with Suzy Perry & Gary Anderson. SO not fair!!! :laugh:
I feel sorry for your mate. Perry will ruin F1 like she did MotoGP
How on earth did she ruin MotoGP? :huh:
A friend of mine is in Jerez watching this. She had a drink with Suzy Perry & Gary Anderson. SO not fair!!! :laugh:
I feel sorry for your mate. Perry will ruin F1 like she did MotoGP
How on earth did she ruin MotoGP? :huh:
Only a few riders would talk to her, look at Matt Roberts now pretty much anyone will have a chat with him
I assume you have all seen this from redbull factory...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t6cxIeCIjE
And in other news, Marussia don't screw on brake fluid cap properly...
And my work colleague defends the little lad that drives for marussia (who has been a friend of his from school) by stating he has 'talent', shortly after he piles into the gravel and someone on twitter asks 'has his dad not ran out of funding yet?... which was my point entirely given his sh!t carting record.
Sky F1 is pretty decent to be honest. I didn't like it at first but it's grown on me. Just a shame it's thundering in Melbourne, they've just come on live 10 minutes late due to a power cut and straight back off mid sentence.
Great to see Kimi back on top in front of the other usual suspects...
Someone needs to show Mark Webber how to start a F1 race!!
No wonder RedBull favour Vettel. How many times has Webber been on the front row only to fall so many places behind as he can't start for sh!t!
Someone needs to show Mark Webber how to start a F1 race!!
No wonder RedBull favour Vettel. How many times has Webber been on the front row only to fall so many places behind as he can't start for sh!t!
Good race though yesterday. Kimi looked good, as did Alonso and Massa. McLaren look in trouble. No doubt they will come good as they always do halfway through the season but by then it will be to late
I just hate the fact it's split between bbc an sky
Not paying that extra £5 a month for a channel for every other week
So have to stick with the highlights half the time :(
But being it only the first race cant really judge anything yet still a long way to go
It will be an interesting season tho
I used my brothers details last year to use Sky Player on my Xbox, but his HD subscription has run out and now F1 is part of the Sports package only not HD, so even he can't get it!
Really miss the days of being able to just turn on BBC/ITV and watch it all for free.
oh look, kimis the main threat - as stated by the commentators
oh a penalty,
the main threat just got butt fcuked :rolleyes:
F1 is fooking rigged to sh!t :rolleyes:
I used my brothers details last year to use Sky Player on my Xbox, but his HD subscription has run out and now F1 is part of the Sports package only not HD, so even he can't get it!
Really miss the days of being able to just turn on BBC/ITV and watch it all for free.
I haven't got Sky Sports but I have got HD and I can still watch the F1
Going to be some fallout from this one, I've haven't seen such a frosty podium in years.
i didnt like Vettel before but since i had a £5 on Webber for the Win at 20/1 i now think hes a total arse bandit to put it lightly
It does however show he has the ruthlessness "win at all costs" mentality?
Was not the best day really in terms of how F1 comes across in the racing aspect.If you listened to the post race comments, there is a lot more to it than what you make out!
Does seem mad that both Vettel and Rosberg were faster than Hamilton/Webber but were just told to sit there and let their team mates get the win and podium
I know both Hamilton/Webber were told to turn the engine down or save fuel in the case of Hamilton but why should Rosberg suffer from Mercedes making a bad call with Hamilton? We seen last season that Vettel only won the championship with a 3 point gap. No wonder Rosberg was getting so angry, can't blame him at all
Anyway, Webber can stop crying like he does when this happens to him, only in the British Grand Prix 2011 he admitted to ignoring 4/5 messages from the team not to overtake Vettel and hold station, but he said he was not going to listen...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93001 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93001)
Was not the best day really in terms of how F1 comes across in the racing aspect.If you listened to the post race comments, there is a lot more to it than what you make out!
Does seem mad that both Vettel and Rosberg were faster than Hamilton/Webber but were just told to sit there and let their team mates get the win and podium
I know both Hamilton/Webber were told to turn the engine down or save fuel in the case of Hamilton but why should Rosberg suffer from Mercedes making a bad call with Hamilton? We seen last season that Vettel only won the championship with a 3 point gap. No wonder Rosberg was getting so angry, can't blame him at all
Anyway, Webber can stop crying like he does when this happens to him, only in the British Grand Prix 2011 he admitted to ignoring 4/5 messages from the team not to overtake Vettel and hold station, but he said he was not going to listen...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93001 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93001)
Was not the best day really in terms of how F1 comes across in the racing aspect.If you listened to the post race comments, there is a lot more to it than what you make out!
Does seem mad that both Vettel and Rosberg were faster than Hamilton/Webber but were just told to sit there and let their team mates get the win and podium
I know both Hamilton/Webber were told to turn the engine down or save fuel in the case of Hamilton but why should Rosberg suffer from Mercedes making a bad call with Hamilton? We seen last season that Vettel only won the championship with a 3 point gap. No wonder Rosberg was getting so angry, can't blame him at all
Anyway, Webber can stop crying like he does when this happens to him, only in the British Grand Prix 2011 he admitted to ignoring 4/5 messages from the team not to overtake Vettel and hold station, but he said he was not going to listen...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93001 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93001)
I just think people are going way over the top with Vettel on this. I am not his biggest fan , far from it as made clear a few times in this thread but he seen the opportunity and he took it.
Unfortunately, nice guys in sport don't usually win much, plus Webber is just not that good. Only ever finished as high as 3rd in the championship in 6 seasons at Red Bull, yet in just 4 seasons, Vettel has finished 2nd and won 3 championships. Webber is very lucky to even be in that team.
Was not the best day really in terms of how F1 comes across in the racing aspect.If you listened to the post race comments, there is a lot more to it than what you make out!
Does seem mad that both Vettel and Rosberg were faster than Hamilton/Webber but were just told to sit there and let their team mates get the win and podium
I know both Hamilton/Webber were told to turn the engine down or save fuel in the case of Hamilton but why should Rosberg suffer from Mercedes making a bad call with Hamilton? We seen last season that Vettel only won the championship with a 3 point gap. No wonder Rosberg was getting so angry, can't blame him at all
Anyway, Webber can stop crying like he does when this happens to him, only in the British Grand Prix 2011 he admitted to ignoring 4/5 messages from the team not to overtake Vettel and hold station, but he said he was not going to listen...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93001 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93001)
I just think people are going way over the top with Vettel on this. I am not his biggest fan , far from it as made clear a few times in this thread but he seen the opportunity and he took it.
Unfortunately, nice guys in sport don't usually win much, plus Webber is just not that good. Only ever finished as high as 3rd in the championship in 6 seasons at Red Bull, yet in just 4 seasons, Vettel has finished 2nd and won 3 championships. Webber is very lucky to even be in that team.
Ok M8.....
Lots more to it than that...but your'e welcome to surmise it like that...
Not just my view just what went round the paddock afterwards...
Vettle said sorry.... Webbers said FU M8.. RB have cancelled the post race pic's
LH said sorry to NR & then NR said "Did he say that"... well that's good as it's about the team and not me...
You really need to listen to the "Full Story" before pontificating....
I just love the "PR" in all this. Vettel has said how sorry he is and how he would take it back if he could. All total bullcarp. He doesn't give a damn about Webber because he knows he's protected (Vettel). He knew he was faster and decided to call the team's bluff. If they REALLY wanted him to go back to 2nd they would have made him move over. He's played the team. He won. Nothing more will come of this other than Webber being really p'd off.:grin:
Mark will retire or do one more season in a different team. He knows he'll get no more out of RB. They will always go for Finger Boy over him.
And as for team orders, I think they should be banned throughout the year until one driver in a team has no mathematical way to win the drivers' championship.
To be fair I'm not surprised he wasn't there. What has the team done to help him win the championship? Nothing. In fact they've reduced the chances by giving Vettel the upgrades first.
I like Webber, he's an emotional racer and I think exciting to watch. He should move to another team, maybe Ferrari to replace Massa, or Lotus to replace Grosjean (I think Grosjean would do well at RB).
It's almost as annoying as people posting the results to facebook long before any normal person has had a chance to watch the race, nevermind the highlights.....
Great pole Lewis! :smiley:
Perez is going well then :smug: :whistle:
Drop in viewing figures could be down to more than the switch to Sky, dare to say it but maybe people are losing interest.
What with the tyres made of cheese, DRS needed for overtakes and the same person winning it for the last 3 years, I have not watched it as much and this year the tyres are even worse.
The supersofts used at China were gone after 5 / 6 laps, what is the point of that, racing should be racing not a question of tyres etc.
I mean it got so bad at China that even Button was on the radio asking do I race or let him past :sad:
This article which is very tongue in cheek actually sums up the currently problem F1 has at the moment ;
Jenson Button has launched a furious attack on McLaren team mate Sergio Perez after the Mexican driver repeatedly tussled with his British counterpart during yesterday’s Bahrain Grand Prix.
‘Checo’s behaviour out there was ridiculous,’ Button fumed last night. ‘Apparently he was doing something called ‘racing’ in which a driver tries to get past another driver to enable them to obtain a better finishing position and therefore score more world championship points. I’ve never heard of anything so dangerous in my life.’
Button was quick to rebuff suggestions that TV viewers might have enjoyed seeing the two McLarens in wheel-to-wheel combat on the Bahrain circuit. ‘Yea, apparently some people found it ‘entertaining’ or something,’ the British driver snapped. ‘And honestly, they’re completely missing the point of the sport. Formula 1 isn’t about two well-matched cars relentlessly overtaking each other in a tense battle of nerve and skill; Formula 1 is about carefully looking after your tyres and waiting for people with laptops to calculate a strategy for pit stops and fuel conservation.’
‘Look, I had enough of this ‘overtaking’ sh!t with the last guy,’ the Frome-born racer concluded in that funny voice of his that sounds like he needs to do a big cough. ‘With him gone, this season I was promised a b!tch. Does anyone have a number for Felipe Massa?’
and this is why both MOTO GP and BTCC are far more entertaining.
Especially Martinez this season, the boys a flyer.
I dont want to see tyre management; I want to see people racing each other wheel to wheel, as fast as the car will and their talent can take them
Next up, Monacozzzzzzzzzzzzzz :sad:
^^^^ that, 4 pit stops ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
erm, kimi got a point so the record ATTEMPT still stands does it not :whistle:
I just loved the fact Kimi suggested punching Perez in the face as talking to him won't work!! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
as Red bull boss said, F1 is no more racing......
its getting bored over n over again........they are suppose to race not look after tyres all the time
as Red bull boss said, F1 is no more racing......
its getting bored over n over again........they are suppose to race not look after tyres all the time
It is awful at the moment. I think most drivers have said that they are not enjoying this season at all. This was yet another race where the drivers was not allowed to race to full potential due to the tyres, you could see how slow they was going as when Vettel did push at the end he took over 2 seconds off his best time
They are using different kind of tyres in Canada so hopefully it will get better as right now it is just not real racing
They are using different kind of tyres in Canada so hopefully it will get better as right now it is just not real racing
Murray Walker has cancer (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22946026) :sad:
Good to see Vettel nurse his car long enough so he could park on the track and bring out the safety car.
F1 and Pirelli is at the moment a complete waste of time.
Well if they will drive over the kerbs what do they expect?
Tyre walls are always the weekest point.
Well if they will drive over the kerbs what do they expect?
Tyre walls are always the weekest point.
Come on Wayne, as mentioned those curbs have been there for years, and hundred of other race cars have driven over them.
It isn't the first time this season a tyre has gone is it. LH had to change a gear box because of one didn't he...
Silverstone highlighted that the tyres were possible weak. I feel that they needed amending any way to allow drivers to race instead of saving the tyres.
:huh:
Nope :smiley:
Thankfully mclaren are looking half decent :smiley: :whistle:
true rhys :lipsrsealed: i certainly hope not at least need a decent season this yearThankfully mclaren are looking half decent :smiley: :whistle:
They cant be worse than last season :lipsrsealed: :undecided:
true rhys :lipsrsealed: i certainly hope not at least need a decent season this yearThankfully mclaren are looking half decent :smiley: :whistle:
They cant be worse than last season :lipsrsealed: :undecided:
:laugh: bring on the lickle teams to trundle round and pick up some points :cool:
Definately never known such a poor performing car :cry:true rhys :lipsrsealed: i certainly hope not at least need a decent season this yearThankfully mclaren are looking half decent :smiley: :whistle:
They cant be worse than last season :lipsrsealed: :undecided:
For sure. It was sad to see them perform so badly last season
Glad Whitmarsh has gone though as they needed a shake-up. Strategy etc was very poor
Will any of the teams complete qualifying in Melborne let alone the race :grin:
One of my friends actually works for Red Bull on Vettel's car. I put some light-hearted banter on Facebook the other day, and he bit HARD. For someone so laid back to do this would point to the fact that he's working VERY hard and nothing's going right for RB at the moment. I have a feeling it may be a while before Vettel's winning ways come back.:grin:
I for one would love Williams to win at least once and especially for Massa to put one over on the Ferrari boys. That said, I can see most of the non-Renault teams doing well in the first half of the season.RosbergButton for champion? :afro:
V8's FTW. If I'd never heard the F1 V8's then I'd have thought these V6's sounded sweet, but nothing will beat the F1 V8-V12!
Hamilton on for his second title?
does vettel realise how much of a spoilt child he sounds - repeatedly ! :cry:Yep he's been "Webbered" :grin:
Horner wont stand for that again now his team mate is faster :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
LH seemed sooo happy with that race. Said it was one of his best...It was one of his easiest thats for sure!
LH seemed sooo happy with that race. Said it was one of his best...It was one of his easiest thats for sure!
Im no f1 driver but I did race and having a big lead or a win is never easy lol
That nose gives him an aerodynamic advantage, mclaren will lodge a complaint soon I bet youLH seemed sooo happy with that race. Said it was one of his best...It was one of his easiest thats for sure!
Im no f1 driver but I did race and having a big lead or a win is never easy lol
You know what I mean... :cool:
Love Vettel throwing his toys out of the pram. Riccardos nose must be on the limit for a race helmet!
Lewis Hamilton world champion 2014!!! Well deserved imo. :cool: