Golf R Reveal

[king monkey]

Mk8 R to be unveiled on 4th November.

[AndyGTI]

Nice one!

Thanks King Monkey for spotting that.  At least we know a timeline for it.

Will be good to finally see it and end some (hopefully all) of the rumours

Roll on 4th November 

https://www.motor1.com/news/449001/2021-vw-golf-r-teaser/

[Hawaii-Five-O]

I'll be very interested to see where the R sits price wise between the GTI and TCR. If it's near as damn it £40k without options then it's gonna have to be very, very good.

While we're on the R, do we know what bhp it will have? Gotta be more the TCR. Maybe 316-336bhp (ish)? Same as the new Arteon R?

And... will it be coming back as an estate?

[Guzzle]

And... will it be coming back as an estate?

I'm guessing so 

[Exonian]

While we're on the R, do we know what bhp it will have? Gotta be more the TCR. Maybe 316-336bhp (ish)? Same as the new Arteon R?

Now that’s the million dollar question!

The S3 and Cupra Fermentor thingy are 310 PS
The Arteon 320.
Those ‘leaked’ screen grabs showed around 330 PS.
The T-Roc has the 300 PS still so could potentially get a 10 PS lift and a mini facelift using the new R logo next year. Can’t see that being allowed any more than that.

Will VW get the nod to use the 320 and have the Golf outgun the S3?
Will the S3 Vorsprung get the 320 to justify the hinted at huge price jump over the shiny trim S3?

Politics!

[king monkey]

While we're on the R, do we know what bhp it will have? Gotta be more the TCR. Maybe 316-336bhp (ish)? Same as the new Arteon R?

Now that’s the million dollar question!

The S3 and Cupra Fermentor thingy are 310 PS
The Arteon 320.
Those ‘leaked’ screen grabs showed around 330 PS.
The T-Roc has the 300 PS still so could potentially get a 10 PS lift and a mini facelift using the new R logo next year. Can’t see that being allowed any more than that.

Will VW get the nod to use the 320 and have the Golf outgun the S3?
Will the S3 Vorsprung get the 320 to justify the hinted at huge price jump over the shiny trim S3?

Politics!

Those screen shots have been very accurate so far so 330bhp seems odds on to me.

[Hawaii-Five-O]

While we're on the R, do we know what bhp it will have? Gotta be more the TCR. Maybe 316-336bhp (ish)? Same as the new Arteon R?

Now that’s the million dollar question!

The S3 and Cupra Fermentor thingy are 310 PS
The Arteon 320.
Those ‘leaked’ screen grabs showed around 330 PS.
The T-Roc has the 300 PS still so could potentially get a 10 PS lift and a mini facelift using the new R logo next year. Can’t see that being allowed any more than that.

Will VW get the nod to use the 320 and have the Golf outgun the S3?
Will the S3 Vorsprung get the 320 to justify the hinted at huge price jump over the shiny trim S3?

Politics!

Any clues on torque? I guess they'll only be able to rinse out 410Nm, 420Nm at a push?

[AndyGTI]

As Exonian has said

S3 is 310ps
Arteon and Tiguan have 320ps

I think I have read that that the EA888 engine in Arteon and Tiguan are (Evo4) and the S3 is last generation.

They say the engine in Arteon and Tiguan is 320ps (316bhp) and 420Nm (310 lbs ft)

So we wait for all to be revealed for the Golf R.

It would seem to suggest that Golf R will be more powerful than an S3....but that would go against the usual VAG model hierarchy.  Also the leaked slide on models (which has thus far been correct) it stated a Golf R with 335ps (330bhp).

I just wonder if we are going to have a standard Golf R model with 310ps (matching S3), but with a performance pack option with 335ps.  So price wise, they have something to come in at similar price to S3, but then take some middle-ish ground between S3 & RS3 with a Performance Pack version in low £40ks price point.

I also wonder whether the cold hard light of day and EU fines on emissions, all this talk about a 380-400ps version is dead in the water and the 335ps version is the highest output for a Golf that they will do.   
 

[king monkey]

Apparently the R will have a drift mode. Volkswizard on twitter.

[king monkey]

Volkswizard twitter: Looks like new R is 315 PS & 330 PS (235 KW & 245 KW)

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