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Title: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: dobb3r on 26 November 2020, 14:20
Just thought I’d ask as I don’t see much spoken about them.

Picked mine up nearly 2 weeks ago and loving every minute, well, when I get to drive it.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Watts on 26 November 2020, 15:10
Not many, I'd be surprised if we get into double figures. Mind you, like yourself, there have been a few joining the forum recently.

There has been plenty discussed in the past when the TCR first came out but given the few owners I don't suppose there's much of interest to discuss for most.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Yusee on 26 November 2020, 16:39
Shame we don’t hear more from TCR owners given that it is, very nearly, the best hot hatch ever made.
Why not do a little review?
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: mcmaddy on 26 November 2020, 18:22
I've got one 👍
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: atlasgrey on 26 November 2020, 21:11
Had mine since last June 2019
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 26 November 2020, 23:03
Another here since September last year.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Hertsman on 27 November 2020, 09:21
October 2019 and with 6800 miles on the clock and love it :)

There was plenty written about them at the time:

https://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=284021.0 (https://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=284021.0)

And a TCR vs R comparison did myself

https://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=285772.0 (https://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=285772.0)

And Exonian excellent review also

https://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=285848.0 (https://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=285848.0)
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: CarbonGTD on 27 November 2020, 09:59
Has Exonian sold that M135i yet...?
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 27 November 2020, 17:43
To be honest with working from home most the year I have hardly had chance to us it as intended so I'm only on around 2k miles.  In fact I am planning on taking it for a runout tomorrow just to keep the battery from going flat...
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: king monkey on 27 November 2020, 18:02
Has Exonian sold that M135i yet...?

I believe he’s had a Yaris GR and a 128ti as well... :grin:
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: huddo on 27 November 2020, 22:33
I’ve had my 20 plate Pure Grey TCR since 3rd October. Lovin it.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Exonian on 28 November 2020, 20:19
Has Exonian sold that M135i yet...?

I believe he’s had a Yaris GR and a 128ti as well... :grin:

 :grin: :grin:

Oi ya bunch of bullies!  :grin:


I think we all knew the Yaris GR was going to be something special from the way the rumblings were coming from the right places way before anyone had clapped eyes on one.
Now it’s here it really does sound something special in all the right ways and in ways that we’d forgotten all about with sanitised modem motoring.
Damn do I wish I’d put a holding deposit on one when I first could back in the spring.


Back on thread, hello! Ex-TCR owner here and it’s much missed. In fact I’ve seen a few more about locally recently. I used to see a couple grey ones on and off but have recently seen a nice Reifnitz equipped grey one with Akra driven by a fellow ‘old enough to know better’ gentleman in Exeter and another white one around Teignmouth. Hi guys if you’re lurking on here  :smiley:
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: CarbonGTD on 29 November 2020, 14:21
We're not bullies Exonian, we just miss you being part of the Golf fold  :smiley:

Now you've had proper time to acclimatise to your new M135i do you prefer it overall to the TCR?
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: king monkey on 29 November 2020, 14:49
We're not bullies Exonian, we just miss you being part of the Golf fold  :smiley:

Now you've had proper time to acclimatise to your new M135i do you prefer it overall to the TCR?

Agreed! No pressure but I think we need a nice detailed write up on that topic.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: turnipandchips on 29 November 2020, 17:16
Owner here, Tornado red. owned since January 20, now on 8K miles.
Absolutely love it, could be a little louder though.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Watts on 30 November 2020, 08:35
So eight owners on this thread so far, I can think of one other so possibly only nine in total. That probably answer's the op's question as to why TCRs aren't spoken about much :laugh:
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Philip on 30 November 2020, 10:44
I'll make it nine. 2019, 3 door, Oryx with black + panoramic roof, performance pack with Reifnitz, Dynaudio and Nav Pro, keyless delete, 90% rear tint.

Enjoy driving the TCR even more now than the day I collected it and there's nothing currently on the market I'd change for.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: bgw on 30 November 2020, 17:52
Another one here... Had it since September 2019 and loving every minute of driving it!
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: atlasgrey on 30 November 2020, 20:34
Had mine since last June 2019

Minus one now as sold mine today. Love the car but faced with at least four more months of working from home I can’t face seeing it sat there when I open the curtain each morning, knowing that it’s costing a reasonable amount. So have got some money back out and no monthly payments while waiting for some normality to return.

Will miss the heated screen and seats compared to my Corrado though if we get a cold winter!

Keep enjoying yours, they really are a great all round car, the best looking golf providing it has the performance pack  :laugh:

Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: king monkey on 30 November 2020, 21:05
Had mine since last June 2019

Minus one now as sold mine today. Love the car but faced with at least four more months of working from home I can’t face seeing it sat there when I open the curtain each morning, knowing that it’s costing a reasonable amount. So have got some money back out and no monthly payments while waiting for some normality to return.

Will miss the heated screen and seats compared to my Corrado though if we get a cold winter!

Keep enjoying yours, they really are a great all round car, the best looking golf providing it has the performance pack  :laugh:

Possibly a strange question but I saw that Andrew Chapple has one coming in soon. Not yours is it?
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: atlasgrey on 30 November 2020, 21:14


Possibly a strange question but I saw that Andrew Chapple has one coming in soon. Not yours is it?
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Yes 👍🏻 Will miss it
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Fizzer on 30 November 2020, 21:51
Another TCR here, owned since June 2019, 3 dr pure white with Reifnitz. /performance pack.
Still brings a smile, great car (but so was my 7R).
Wonder how many TCRs registered in Uk.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 30 November 2020, 22:29
817 licensed according to how many left with a few SORN
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: funboxster on 01 December 2020, 09:36
Another owner here. White 69 plate demo with 4k miles bought back in January, with pan roof, reifnitz/dcc and climate windscreen.
So impressed with it and it's a keeper at the moment. Interested in the upcoming club sport, but not sure about the tablet infotainment and cost cutting evident on GTI.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Fizzer on 01 December 2020, 15:56
817 licensed according to how many left with a few SORN
Thanks CookieMonster.
Would be good if the site could also find out how many 3 doors, how many grey, red , white etc but certainly don’t see many of the 817 on the roads.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 01 December 2020, 16:33
I haven't seen one of any spec on the road since they were released!
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Exonian on 01 December 2020, 16:34
We're not bullies Exonian, we just miss you being part of the Golf fold  :smiley:

Now you've had proper time to acclimatise to your new M135i do you prefer it overall to the TCR?

Agreed! No pressure but I think we need a nice detailed write up on that topic.

Aww!  :grin:

Not much to report on the 135i front since I posted up war and peace a couple months ago http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=286920.0
It’s just been used occasionally for commuting but I’ve been using my other little car mostly.

Do I prefer it to the TCR? Some aspects yes, some no. I miss being a Golf owner.
Funnily enough I was contacted out of the blue by a sales guy I have dealt with in the past at a dealer who had a couple 69 plate TCRs in saying something along the lines of “thought I’d let you know we’ve got a couple of these in just in case you’re bored of the BMW already...”

cheeky so and so  :laugh:
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Exonian on 01 December 2020, 16:37
I haven't seen one of any spec on the road since they were released!

I won’t say I’ve seen loads about but I’ve seen more than half a dozen and even saw a few Clubsports on and off.
Maybe quite a few are sold in Devon as they’re the type of cars that suit the roads down here.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 December 2020, 17:33
I've only seen one other apart from my own up in Durham/Sunderland here and that was when they were both in at our detailer and both Pure Grey.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Watts on 01 December 2020, 17:41
I haven't seen one of any spec on the road since they were released!

I won’t say I’ve seen loads about but I’ve seen more than half a dozen and even saw a few Clubsports on and off.
Maybe quite a few are sold in Devon as they’re the type of cars that suit the roads down here.

I've only seen a couple on the roads, one of which was German registered before they were available here.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: CarbonGTD on 02 December 2020, 09:08
I'm based on the south coast (built up part) and I've only seen two since launch (one red, one grey) which certainly suggests they are pretty exclusive.

It was interesting to see Andrew Chapple's new S3 vs M135i vid this wk (in which he gives the win to the BMW pretty clearly depsite being a VAG man) - was a shame he didn't compare the M135i to his own TCR (which he clearly loves).

Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Philip on 02 December 2020, 10:54
Warwickshire based but travel to East Anglia frequently (when allowed) and London for work once every two weeks and so far I've seen three TCR's on the road - Pure Grey 5 door in Stratford on Avon, Pure White 5 door on the A14 at Cambridge and Andy Chapple himself in his Pure Grey 3 door on the A435 near Kings Heath.

Total number of TCR's registered isn't that dissimilar to the total number of Lamborghini Gallardo's shown on howmanyleft and I've only seen one of those on the road in the last year or so, although they are slightly less likely to be used as a daily I imagine...
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: CarbonGTD on 02 December 2020, 12:36
Could be wrong but I suspect 90% of the Gallardo's are within the M25 perimiter but only 10% of the TCR's...
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Exonian on 02 December 2020, 13:23
Talking of Mr Volkswizard and TCR’s, Ive just seen his vid advertising atlasgrey’s beautiful ex-TCR
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Hertsman on 03 December 2020, 13:24
Still to see another on road in Herts/Beds corridor.

Am a Volkswizard subscriber so do get to see all his videos and Atlas Grey has let go of a real good un there, but understand the reasoning as making the effort to get out and do some miles, even if its just to travel out for a scenic walk, but was 3000 miles down on previous year (my average is 9000 miles most years) and unless shackles really come off in second half of 2021 can see it being a similar 6000 given only did 200 miles last month! Going to be a lot of low mileage cars around in next few years.

Have to decide on next change March 2022 so have quite a bit of time yet, but if was looking now it would be a complete pass on the MK 8 with only 2 cars that would look at being the new BMW i.28Ti and the AMG A35 when it face lifts, as did like it, but think it did need another cycle of improvement and that must be soon, with hope they put in a detuned A45 opposed to the overtuned A250

The thinking presently is that keep the TCR beyond the 3 years and would take something significantly attractive to shift that thinking as getting bored and changing for changing sake is not likely.

The only car that would be tempted by is a 2-3 year old RS3 before petrol cars are sent to the naughty corner, but that would take a lot of diligence before pulled trigger on, and maybe staying with the TCR would be best regardless given nothing dislike about it.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: CaliChris on 03 December 2020, 16:04
TCR owner here. Had it a month now, love it!
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Watts on 03 December 2020, 16:24
Just one more needed for a baker's dozen!
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Ado on 03 December 2020, 16:59
Another one here in bristol where quite a few resides. Seen three grey, one red and one white.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Watts on 03 December 2020, 17:46
Another one here in bristol where quite a few resides. Seen three grey, one red and one white.

Hurrah!

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Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 03 December 2020, 19:23
Really enjoyed the TCR but in the same place as most in not being able to use it much.

Did consider going down to one car between me and the wife, maybe a Nardo RSQ3.... Going to wait and see where things sit around Easter before committing epithet way.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: atlasgrey on 03 December 2020, 22:29
Still to see another on road in Herts/Beds corridor.

Am a Volkswizard subscriber so do get to see all his videos and Atlas Grey has let go of a real good un there, but understand the reasoning as making the effort to get out and do some miles, even if its just to travel out for a scenic walk, but was 3000 miles down on previous year (my average is 9000 miles most years) and unless shackles really come off in second half of 2021 can see it being a similar 6000 given only did 200 miles last month! Going to be a lot of low mileage cars around in next few years.

Have to decide on next change March 2022 so have quite a bit of time yet, but if was looking now it would be a complete pass on the MK 8 with only 2 cars that would look at being the new BMW i.28Ti and the AMG A35 when it face lifts, as did like it, but think it did need another cycle of improvement and that must be soon, with hope they put in a detuned A45 opposed to the overtuned A250

The thinking presently is that keep the TCR beyond the 3 years and would take something significantly attractive to shift that thinking as getting bored and changing for changing sake is not likely.

The only car that would be tempted by is a 2-3 year old RS3 before petrol cars are sent to the naughty corner, but that would take a lot of diligence before pulled trigger on, and maybe staying with the TCR would be best regardless given nothing dislike about it.

Was not an easy choice as it’s the best car I’ve owned, very capable and brilliant all round. I know pan roof is marmite but I like them (once fixed). Due to working from home it was just depressing me to open the curtains and know there was nowhere to go in it, then go and sit in the box room for work. I know other folk have it worse this year though. Lately it’s literally been a once a week 16 mile, or 20 mile the lanes way trip to see my ‘support bubble’.

Summer was a juggle trying to use the two old VWs too, so as the tcr was the only one dropping in value, it came down to just getting some money back out of it, sit out this weird world and put the saved money towards something in future. Am most tempted by cayman or a 996 C4S but if I need more practicality I wouldn’t rule out a return to a tcr.

Enjoy yours!
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: jf111 on 04 December 2020, 01:22
I am a TCR owner. Love it but don't love paying for it  :grin:

It sits on the driveway far too much at the moment and seems excessive for what is effectively a car to go shopping in at the moment. I'm tied into the finance though so don't have a way out until I've paid a bit more off it.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Hertsman on 04 December 2020, 10:10
Still to see another on road in Herts/Beds corridor.

Am a Volkswizard subscriber so do get to see all his videos and Atlas Grey has let go of a real good un there, but understand the reasoning as making the effort to get out and do some miles, even if its just to travel out for a scenic walk, but was 3000 miles down on previous year (my average is 9000 miles most years) and unless shackles really come off in second half of 2021 can see it being a similar 6000 given only did 200 miles last month! Going to be a lot of low mileage cars around in next few years.

Have to decide on next change March 2022 so have quite a bit of time yet, but if was looking now it would be a complete pass on the MK 8 with only 2 cars that would look at being the new BMW i.28Ti and the AMG A35 when it face lifts, as did like it, but think it did need another cycle of improvement and that must be soon, with hope they put in a detuned A45 opposed to the overtuned A250

The thinking presently is that keep the TCR beyond the 3 years and would take something significantly attractive to shift that thinking as getting bored and changing for changing sake is not likely.

The only car that would be tempted by is a 2-3 year old RS3 before petrol cars are sent to the naughty corner, but that would take a lot of diligence before pulled trigger on, and maybe staying with the TCR would be best regardless given nothing dislike about it.

Was not an easy choice as it’s the best car I’ve owned, very capable and brilliant all round. I know pan roof is marmite but I like them (once fixed). Due to working from home it was just depressing me to open the curtains and know there was nowhere to go in it, then go and sit in the box room for work. I know other folk have it worse this year though. Lately it’s literally been a once a week 16 mile, or 20 mile the lanes way trip to see my ‘support bubble’.

Summer was a juggle trying to use the two old VWs too, so as the tcr was the only one dropping in value, it came down to just getting some money back out of it, sit out this weird world and put the saved money towards something in future. Am most tempted by cayman or a 996 C4S but if I need more practicality I wouldn’t rule out a return to a tcr.

Enjoy yours!

Definitely undersand that as had to get really creative in the summer with some trips out to Norfolk and Suffolk coast and a couple of trips to Cotswolds to some of the quieter places, so that kept my mileage respectable but did less than 200 miles last month as basically did a few local runs just to get out of the house.

Working from home also and without the regular trips into regional offices for huddles (Now called MS Team Meetings)

If you really wanted to have a TCR again it will surely just be a matter of sourcing one when the world is less wobbly and if you subtract the depreciation to what pay, sure the decision will seem even wiser when look at bank balance.

Locked into my car same as jf111, so no escaping, though wife has an Audi A1 Sline 14 plate 185BHP Black Edition and think she done less than 1000 miles in last year opposed to her usual 4-5000 miles, so we said we would give it to turn of year and maybe have to make a decision on that, though as we got it second hand most of the accelerated depreciation is gone, and at under 20,000 miles with FSH the need to shift is not as burning as yours. We reluctant to as we have seen it as a 10yr + car with its known history and low mileage. We could sale and get a turkey when buy again.

Imagine a lot of folk have been through the very same thought process, but based on what you said think you have made the right move as it removes the feeling of it being wasted sitting on drive, and of course the money that is not slipping down the drain next to it each month.

Wonder what the prices will be on TCR at the 3 year mark? will they just be the same as other GTI and R? and maybe lesser that the previous MK 7 given there is the new MK 8 model - Presently intend to purchase it at end of the lease, so be intersting to have a ballpark

Just been out on a local pick up to next town, and when driving it you do forget all the sensible stuff, such a joy, each journey brings a smile,

Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: fredgroves on 04 December 2020, 10:21
Wonder what the prices will be on TCR at the 3 year mark? will they just be the same as other GTI and R?

Well if PCP GFV's are anything to go by, not great! I was quoted £12,600 at 3 years. That's less than my Mk7.5 GTD - for a car that was more than 7k extra when new.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Hertsman on 04 December 2020, 10:29
Wonder what the prices will be on TCR at the 3 year mark? will they just be the same as other GTI and R?

Well if PCP GFV's are anything to go by, not great! I was quoted £12,600 at 3 years. That's less than my Mk7.5 GTD - for a car that was more than 7k extra when new.

I would be very happy if the lease company just asked for £12,500 at end of the 3 years for me to keep it :)

Anyone here purchase their lease at end of the 3 year? especially company lease?
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: king monkey on 04 December 2020, 12:27
Wonder what the prices will be on TCR at the 3 year mark? will they just be the same as other GTI and R?

Well if PCP GFV's are anything to go by, not great! I was quoted £12,600 at 3 years. That's less than my Mk7.5 GTD - for a car that was more than 7k extra when new.

I would be very happy if the lease company just asked for £12,500 at end of the 3 years for me to keep it :)

Anyone here purchase their lease at end of the 3 year? especially company lease?

Probably a similar situation to the Clubsport. Same gfv as a regular gti in a pcp. Gfv and actual value after the term ends aren’t the same. Sure the TCR will be worth a lot more.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Hertsman on 04 December 2020, 12:47
Wonder what the prices will be on TCR at the 3 year mark? will they just be the same as other GTI and R?

Well if PCP GFV's are anything to go by, not great! I was quoted £12,600 at 3 years. That's less than my Mk7.5 GTD - for a car that was more than 7k extra when new.

I would be very happy if the lease company just asked for £12,500 at end of the 3 years for me to keep it :)

Anyone here purchase their lease at end of the 3 year? especially company lease?

Probably a similar situation to the Clubsport. Same gfv as a regular gti in a pcp. Gfv and actual value after the term ends aren’t the same. Sure the TCR will be worth a lot more.

I have read that, in there being no differentiation seen by the lease company, its a by the numbers exercise, and so each GTI or R will price out the same, which hope is what occurs as will make my case to keep just that bit stronger.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: jf111 on 04 December 2020, 14:42
My GFV is £13400 after 4 years. I'd be amazed it it was worth that in 4 years though. The value of TCRs is dropping extremely quickly but maybe the curve will flatten after the initial depreciation. If the pandemic stuff dies down a bit I can see the value creeping up again but the cars aren't really rare or special enough to command much extra over a regular GTI, in my opinion.

I wish the dealer had been more informed about the different options available. I ended up with a car without the performance pack but with enough options to qualify for luxury car tax. If I'd have known either of those things up front then I'd have ordered something else. It was exciting at the time though and I'd already sold my old car so was under pressure to buy something. At the time (Feburary) things were still completely normal.

Hoping I can jack in the car at about the 2 year mark and get something with cheaper monthlies, or just hand it back and call it quits, then find a cheap lease deal for some econobox until I save up a few grand. Then I'll buy something older and more interesting now that i don't need a car every day. Depends what VWFS let me do really.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 04 December 2020, 14:45
Wonder what the prices will be on TCR at the 3 year mark? will they just be the same as other GTI and R?

Well if PCP GFV's are anything to go by, not great! I was quoted £12,600 at 3 years. That's less than my Mk7.5 GTD - for a car that was more than 7k extra when new.

I would be very happy if the lease company just asked for £12,500 at end of the 3 years for me to keep it :)

Anyone here purchase their lease at end of the 3 year? especially company lease?

You can normally get a settlement on a company lease. Back in 2017, The settlement on 'my' 2-year-old C200 AMG Line was £18.5k. I sold to a trader and made £500 without doing anything other a couple of phone calls. It was then retailed at £23.5k so there was some decent margin in that one.

But I got a settlement figure my GTI Performance this year and that was £19.5k. Probably a bit cheaper than you could get one retail but there wasn't enough for it go through my trade contacts so let them pick it up.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: fredgroves on 04 December 2020, 15:02
But I got a settlement figure my GTI Performance this year and that was £19.5k. Probably a bit cheaper than you could get one retail but there wasn't enough for it go through my trade contacts so let them pick it up.

Settlement is going to be outstanding balance + interest yet unpaid (ie the full amount they would have earnt from you if you kept paying until the end) + some sort of admin fee.

There probably is some sort of graph you could plot that would show cost to payoff vs trade value and I doubt if it makes much sense until at least 70% through the term, maybe even later. It will depend on the car though.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 04 December 2020, 15:52
But I got a settlement figure my GTI Performance this year and that was £19.5k. Probably a bit cheaper than you could get one retail but there wasn't enough for it go through my trade contacts so let them pick it up.

Settlement is going to be outstanding balance + interest yet unpaid (ie the full amount they would have earnt from you if you kept paying until the end) + some sort of admin fee.

There probably is some sort of graph you could plot that would show cost to payoff vs trade value and I doubt if it makes much sense until at least 70% through the term, maybe even later. It will depend on the car though.

I meant a final value at the end of the 2-year lease.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Spittfire on 17 January 2021, 12:16
Do many of the TCR owners hit the over £40k luxury car tax bracket?
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Watts on 17 January 2021, 13:10
Most 19 plate cars should be okay but when they added the Akrapovic exhaust they upped the base price for 69 plate cars so just adding 19s would put a car in the luxury tax range.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: SRGTD on 17 January 2021, 17:16
Most 19 plate cars should be okay but when they added the Akrapovic exhaust they upped the base price for 69 plate cars so just adding 19s would put a car in the luxury tax range.

When I did the deal for my current car back in Feb last year, the dealer had a Grey TCR in their showroom. It was being offered at a ‘special discounted’ price, but I remember that the discounted price was still quite a bit in excess of £40k. It had the Akrapovic exhaust and optional 19” Reifnitz alloys and looked great :cool:.

Even if it’d been possible to get them below their ‘special discounted’ price by haggling, the £40k+ list price pushed it into the luxury VED band.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: mcmaddy on 17 January 2021, 19:13
I've got Akra exhaust, DCC, dynaudio, heated front screen and grey colour and still wasn't above the luxury tax.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Watts on 17 January 2021, 20:47
I've got Akra exhaust, DCC, dynaudio, heated front screen and grey colour and still wasn't above the luxury tax.

How are you getting on with your TCR, all good?
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Hertsman on 18 January 2021, 13:08
I've got Akra exhaust, DCC, dynaudio, heated front screen and grey colour and still wasn't above the luxury tax.

was one of the lucky few who ordered before the MY 20 changes and so the Akrapovic being a now standard fit proved to be a freebie and so it was well under the £40,000 for me also, and do love the Akrapovic, they look great for starters and clean so easily compared to the chrome on the R but I still would not pay for the Akrapovic as an upgrade unless had no eye on budget, which usually have to, but feel lucked out on passing on another R and getting the TCR as really love it across the board in looks, performance and agility as well as all the usual Golf features that make for ease of living with.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: mcmaddy on 18 January 2021, 13:39
I've got Akra exhaust, DCC, dynaudio, heated front screen and grey colour and still wasn't above the luxury tax.

How are you getting on with your TCR, all good?
I've only done 3000 miles since last July but it's a great car. 👍
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Hertsman on 19 January 2021, 09:19
I've got Akra exhaust, DCC, dynaudio, heated front screen and grey colour and still wasn't above the luxury tax.

How are you getting on with your TCR, all good?
I've only done 3000 miles since last July but it's a great car. 👍

had a burst of mileage late summer early autumn as managed to get about more, but just clocked 7000 miles, about 4000 miles down on what would expect this far into ownership. Normally do circa, 27000 miles over 3 years, imagine thats going to be more 20,0000 this go around when 3 years is up, which adds to case to keep and not changeover, which have always done previously.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: jf111 on 21 January 2021, 00:29
Do many of the TCR owners hit the over £40k luxury car tax bracket?

Yes. I'm a bit annoyed as the dealer made all sorts of claims that he'd be able to avoid it, presumably to get a sale. I shouldn't have been so naive. Not a big deal financially but it's still quite annoying having to pay so much for tax, especially at the moment with the car barely moving.

Can't wait till I pay off enough of the finance to be able to sell the car and break even tbh. I'm just going to buy a regular GTI from 2-3 years ago instead and if I miss the power (unlikely on UK roads), I will shell out for some modifications.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Philip on 21 January 2021, 07:17
Do many of the TCR owners hit the over £40k luxury car tax bracket?

Mine qualified for the luxury tax.  I don't have a problem with that as any of the alternatives I briefly considered prior to buying the TCR would also have done once optioned to the same level. Totally understand the frustration for those where the dealer didn't make it clear at point of purchase however.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 21 January 2021, 11:37
Mine went in to the luxury car tax.

Is the price high for a Golf = Yes.

Was it worth not having the car I wanted (in terms of options) which I will probably keep for 6 years due to the difference in tax = No

Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: dobb3r on 21 January 2021, 13:57
Mine was just shy of the luxury tax bracket. Although I purchased it second hand this was one of the stipulations I had that it had to be below the luxy tax bracket.

I’m going to be keeping this car for some time as it does everything I could want from a car.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Exonian on 21 January 2021, 18:54
Mine had a pretty big spec but was a 19 plate pre Akra model so still crept under the lux tax.
Reifnitz, black roof, side chequers, Dynaudio, heated screen. It was bought at five months old as ex-sales manager’s car.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Splashalot on 22 January 2021, 01:45
Apologies if this has been answered previously, but does the TCR pick up the Edition 40's sharper steering (courtesy of the redesigned aluminum front sub-frame, i think).

My main grip with my 7.5 GTI is the sharp but dull steering.  That is, the lack of feel.  Wondering if a TCR may remedy that?

As an aside, I'm pretty sure I won't be in a mk8, due to digital everything.  So....keep the 7.5GTI, or consider a TCR?
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: mcmaddy on 22 January 2021, 09:27
I'm sure the TCR does have the aluminium sub frame and sharper steering.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: fredgroves on 22 January 2021, 14:05
I'm not sure it does have the subframe actually. I couldn't find any reference to it.

It's a great car though regardless.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Watts on 22 January 2021, 14:58
Just had a look under my TCR and it's not got the aluminium subframe. I'm sure I read somewhere though that the aluminium subframe was added perhaps when the Akra exhaust was but I can't remember where. I don't think the subframe though will improve steering feel as it is a straight swap on a GTI, it'll be other different components on the CSS (and possibly the CS). As for the TCR, I can only compare with a 7PP and with normal road driving but I can't say I've noticed much of a difference in steering. It might be a case of having to drive them back to back to appreciate any difference.

As for getting a TCR, provided you are happy with DSG then I'd say yes, go for it.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Watts on 22 January 2021, 15:44
If anyone fancied swapping to the aluminium subframe, this seems to be a bargain - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Audi-A3-Sub-Frame-2017-TFSI-5Q0-199-369-G-04-/124358939865?redirect=mobile
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: fredgroves on 22 January 2021, 16:58
If anyone fancied swapping to the aluminium subframe, this seems to be a bargain - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Audi-A3-Sub-Frame-2017-TFSI-5Q0-199-369-G-04-/124358939865?redirect=mobile

I would politely suggest that is almost certainly from a chopshop.

Unless its possible to run a supposed car breakers from a block of flats.

Don't encourage crime....
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Watts on 22 January 2021, 17:48
If anyone fancied swapping to the aluminium subframe, this seems to be a bargain - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Audi-A3-Sub-Frame-2017-TFSI-5Q0-199-369-G-04-/124358939865?redirect=mobile

I would politely suggest that is almost certainly from a chopshop.

Unless its possible to run a supposed car breakers from a block of flats.

Don't encourage crime....

That's your assumption and a bit condescending with nothing obviously polite about it. They also have this ad - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-A3-Hatchback-Black-5-Door-2015-2018-For-Parts-Genuine-Doors-Front-Rear-Side/124358964614?hash=item1cf45f3586:g:lVwAAOSwZo5fdGaB showing the whole car which has front end damage and could easily be a write off. The seller is a registered limited company which on Companies House says they retail motor vehicle parts and accessories as well as sell used cars. They may sell stolen parts as you say but registering yourself as a company selling car parts doesn't seem like a good way of hiding your criminal activities.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: fredgroves on 22 January 2021, 20:22
And that advert neatly contravenes ebay selling policies.

My opinion remains, this is one (of many) iffy sellers on ebay.

Sure, register a company, these parts are untraceable.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Splashalot on 23 January 2021, 02:21
Thanks all for the responses to my questions. I would probably need  to try and snag a TCR test drive to know whether the car would provide the solutions I'm after.  Not sure how likely that would be, however, as I'm pretty sure dealers here don't keep them in stock.

And yes, the DSG thing is definitely a consideration.  I may be solving one issue only to inherit another.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Paul70 on 23 January 2021, 13:00
Interesting comments on the aluminium subframe but as a few members have said this is unlikely to make any difference to steering feel, I believe these subframes are standard on all Audi A3s from 2013 and they are not exactly renowned for their steering feel. The TCR is a great base car. Changing the main front LCA bush and the rear trailing arm bush to the CSS items, fitting a thicker rear ARB and camber top mounts with a fast road set up would transform the car. Admittedly, this would cost more than the front subframe but it will make a significant difference.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Exonian on 23 January 2021, 22:52
Apologies if this has been answered previously, but does the TCR pick up the Edition 40's sharper steering (courtesy of the redesigned aluminum front sub-frame, i think).

My main grip with my 7.5 GTI is the sharp but dull steering.  That is, the lack of feel.  Wondering if a TCR may remedy that?

As an aside, I'm pretty sure I won't be in a mk8, due to digital everything.  So....keep the 7.5GTI, or consider a TCR?

My own observations were that the TCR had sharper handling than the regular GTI but steering feel and sharpness was much the same. The actual steering wheel was much nicer to hold though due to the nice dimpled leather.

I didn’t rate the DSG much in normal mode as it changed up far far too quickly when just driving steadily but wanting to make reasonable progress. Practically in third gear by the time the wheels had rotated half a turn!
The mk8 Clubsport on my very brief drive did appear better in that respect but that might be proven wrong yet.
I also found the DCC front dampers too quick to wallow in normal mode when cornering quickly but gently.

Minor gripes as everything else about the car was fantastic, looks (rear diffuser aside), sense of occasion, performance, handling...


But don’t totally write off the mk8 either just based on internet reviews.
If you’re a terminal fiddler then there is much to fiddle with which can be a bit fiddly.  But if you set the vehicle up to your taste and driving style and then pretty much leave most of it alone then it’s not too bad.
Endlessly twiddling knobs is just as dangerous as messing about prodding bits of screen, and just like any keyboard you become familiar with use where things are without really looking  (up to a point).
Having said that I still use a geriatric iPhone because I can’t stand the haptic button on the iPhone 8 sat next to my bed so never ever use it, and find the iPhone 11 and 12 buttonless faces a bit annoying too so stick with older units I have which employ a real home button.
The haptic buttons on the mk8 ‘wheel are nasty things but unless one uses ACC a fair bit (I never use it) then it’s just the stereo controls that need acclimatising to.
Do they spec a heated steering wheel as standard in warmer climes than the UK?
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Splashalot on 24 January 2021, 01:13
......Do they spec a heated steering wheel as standard in warmer climes than the UK?

Mk8 won't be released her for a while yet - from memory mid 2021?  So specs aren't available, but I highly doubt the heated steering wheel will make its way down under.  We tend to get highly-specced versions of the GTI, but none to date (to my knowledge) have featured a heated steering wheel. 

Some interesting info and comments there, thanks.  I am a serial fiddler, so on that basis alone am highly dubious of the mk8's digital interface.  Mostly cabin temp and fresh/recirculated air controls, so they would need to be easily accessible without being distracting.  Oh, and the always-on stop-start would give me the irrits, I suspect.

I'll definitely have a look at the mk8, though, as the driving experience does sound like it would better suit me.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Exonian on 24 January 2021, 11:01
Is there still a supply of “new” Golf 7.5’s coming through in Australasia?

Pre mk8 I’ve never seen a heated sports steering wheel in a performance orientated Golf before but it seems to be something filtering down from luxury barges to smaller hatches from various marques now.

You’re right to be sceptical about the digital interface in the mk8, it’s sure not going to suit everyone. The BMW 1 series seems to do it better as a blend but even that can be a bit over-fiddly for certain things. Maybe I’m just getting too old for it all! 
I can think of people on the forums who will enjoy poring over manuals (and getting excited about the digital manual in the car) and setting things up, but that’s not my thing. I like a user friendly intuitive set up which doesn’t detract or distract from the actual driving. Even after almost seven years with a mk7 I struggled to remember how to do certain things with the steering wheel buttons sometimes!  :grin:
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: fredgroves on 24 January 2021, 18:03
I can think of people on the forums who will enjoy poring over manuals (and getting excited about the digital manual in the car) and setting things up

 :whistle:
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Exonian on 24 January 2021, 22:35
It wasn’t *just* you that sprang to mind, honest!  :grin:
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Splashalot on 25 January 2021, 05:19
Is there still a supply of “new” Golf 7.5’s coming through in Australasia?

I like a user friendly intuitive set up which doesn’t detract or distract from the actual driving.

They're still available, as far as I know.  But they are possibly cars ordered months ago or dealer orders in stock.

I'm completely with you on the second statement.  I guess the tech-heavy thing is aimed at younger drivers.  But it's not for me.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: dobb3r on 25 January 2021, 15:57
Is there still a supply of “new” Golf 7.5’s coming through in Australasia?

I like a user friendly intuitive set up which doesn’t detract or distract from the actual driving.

They're still available, as far as I know.  But they are possibly cars ordered months ago or dealer orders in stock.

I'm completely with you on the second statement.  I guess the tech-heavy thing is aimed at younger drivers.  But it's not for me.

I think the TCR and for that matter the 7.5 blends the right level of tech and tradition. I get the feeling that in the 8, they have gone with touch control and haptic feedback because they can, not because it makes it any better.
I wont be selling my TCR any time soon to replace it with the 8 or any other car for that matter, it fits the bill perfectly for me.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Kpow99 on 31 January 2021, 22:02
Hi, yes another TCR owner here. Grey with performance pack etc. Everything bar the carbon door mirrors and Ak exhaust.

I have a question for fellow owners... have you had a stage 1 remap? If so what affect did it have on your insurance and fuel economy? I can read about the main stats but that never gets mentioned really. Just curious. Also which tuning company map did you have and what output did you get?

Cheers

Oh and I’ve not seen another TCR since I bought 6 months ago! Plenty of GTI owners giving me a wave and wave back and R owners giving me a sneer and trying...trying to get away from me 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: ar899 on 31 January 2021, 22:44
Is there still a supply of “new” Golf 7.5’s coming through in Australasia?

I like a user friendly intuitive set up which doesn’t detract or distract from the actual driving.

They're still available, as far as I know.  But they are possibly cars ordered months ago or dealer orders in stock.

I'm completely with you on the second statement.  I guess the tech-heavy thing is aimed at younger drivers.  But it's not for me.

I think the TCR and for that matter the 7.5 blends the right level of tech and tradition. I get the feeling that in the 8, they have gone with touch control and haptic feedback because they can, not because it makes it any better.
I wont be selling my TCR any time soon to replace it with the 8 or any other car for that matter, it fits the bill perfectly for me.

Agreed. Just because you CAN do something doesn’t mean you SHOULD. Judging by the comments in the software thread, it sounds like they have bunged in as much tech as they have. Possibly using the Mk8 to test all the software gubbins that future EVs and self driving vehicles will need.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: fredgroves on 31 January 2021, 23:32
It's still not revolution though, it's only evolution.

You can see very clearly how the mk7.5 gets to be a mk8.

It's not nearly as different as people make out.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Spittfire on 06 February 2021, 22:52
Anyone any idea roughly how many TCR’s were sold in the UK?
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: fredgroves on 06 February 2021, 22:59
Less than nine hundred?

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/volkswagen_golf_gti_tcr_s-a
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Kpow99 on 07 February 2021, 09:29
Less than nine hundred?

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/volkswagen_golf_gti_tcr_s-a

Not that many then! Looking at Autotrader there are about 25 R’s for sale to every 1 TCR. Still not seen another where I live!
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: fredgroves on 07 February 2021, 10:05
They were expensive, very expensive. Even more so when they "bundled" the akra exhaust...and remember all of that was just end of 2019, which actually wasn't about twenty years ago, it just seems like it.

Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Paul70 on 07 February 2021, 11:38
Less than nine hundred?

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/volkswagen_golf_gti_tcr_s-a

Great website Fredgroves, thanks for posting this.

Rough maths, there were 552 ED40s registered in total and more importantly for those waiting on the MK8 ED45 option on the MK8, the first ED40 was registered in Q2 2016. I am sure there will be delays due to the current situation but the announcement must be made soon!
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Exonian on 07 February 2021, 12:15
The Edition models often tended to break cover at the Worthersee GTI Treffen which obviously wasn’t top of the agenda last year with closed factories and everything else.
With such a rush to get the GTI, CS and R’s (ok and the GTD and GTEs) into production with a relatively new generation of Golf I’m not surprised the Ed45 isn’t around just yet but I do quite like the idea of it just being an add on package for what isn’t exactly a milestone anniversary.
Maybe the R Anni model next year will be something a bit special being as that’s the sub-brand that’s taking VW into the electric age.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Spittfire on 15 February 2021, 13:00
Another one to the TCR club :smiley:
I came on the forum wanting a GTI PP but a few members planted the TCR seed and well, here she is. Got a March 2020 car with performance pack, Pan roof, Black roof, Carbon mirrors for £28k which im more than pleased with considering it was over £44k 11 months ago. No Dynaudio which is a bit of a shame but for the price I cant complain.

(https://i.postimg.cc/kgB1zgkp/04143-D17-7071-4-CB4-A82-E-CC817226-FC5-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FYXVJNFy)

(https://i.postimg.cc/15W7vqYF/614-CD842-69-AE-4-D1-D-9-C5-C-3386-D4-FE4713.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VdCF6dws)

(https://i.postimg.cc/8c4XQJpq/BDEDD385-B5-B3-42-FF-8014-974-A31-CF6660.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xNk3LdbR)

(https://i.postimg.cc/pXV1QZkx/3-B096677-D731-4-F6-E-8-D72-1-B17-F5-A5-B368.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/c6jm0fV5)

(https://i.postimg.cc/c1Bb8jRX/81732-C92-C83-D-4385-9983-6998-AB1-A8374.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WWBstbv)
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: fredgroves on 15 February 2021, 14:23
Very nice indeed!

I really wanted one, but they were just too pricey brand new.  :cry: :cry:

Perfect colour too!
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Watts on 15 February 2021, 14:44
Congratulations Spittfire! Sounds like you got a great deal there with a really good spec.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Exonian on 15 February 2021, 16:56
That looks a beauty Spittfire. Amazing value too, all things considered  :cool:
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: TurboTrev on 15 February 2021, 18:12
Very nice, best colour, best wheels, best exhaust, just too many doors! :cool:  Hopefully you won't suffer from the sunroof surround crack problem.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: jf111 on 17 February 2021, 01:09
Lovely! I wish I had those wheels on mine, they really suit the car. Didn't know that carbon mirrors were a factory option. What else has the car got?
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Spittfire on 17 February 2021, 20:40
Lovely! I wish I had those wheels on mine, they really suit the car. Didn't know that carbon mirrors were a factory option. What else has the car got?
Thanks.
Yes, the mirrors were about a £450 option from memory which seems excessive. Also has VW black painted roof and a sunroof. I did want the Reifnitz but the Pret’s have grown on me.
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Kpow99 on 18 February 2021, 12:12
Another one to the TCR club :smiley:
I came on the forum wanting a GTI PP but a few members planted the TCR seed and well, here she is. Got a March 2020 car with performance pack, Pan roof, Black roof, Carbon mirrors for £28k which im more than pleased with considering it was over £44k 11 months ago. No Dynaudio which is a bit of a shame but for the price I cant complain.

Snap, same as me except no Akra :-)  I'm thinking of upgrade to exhaust sometime anyway.

Plus i have a private plate now too which is ?? TCR  :grin:
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Kpow99 on 18 February 2021, 12:17

(https://i.postimg.cc/VsJzbM8K/7339-A58-D-E81-C-427-B-97-D9-40-DB51-C7734-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dDcbbhDC)

 :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Watts on 18 February 2021, 13:58
I was tempted to get a 'TCR' numberplate too but getting my wallet out too often makes me feel dizzy :laugh:
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Kpow99 on 18 February 2021, 15:02
I was tempted to get a 'TCR' numberplate too but getting my wallet out too often makes me feel dizzy :laugh:

Wasn't that bad!  The plate I did want someone beat me too it by a few weeks, looking at when it was registered, was FA57 TCR, I then wanted A671 TCR (Like AGTI TCR) but doesn't exist and you can't get it.  I got a small TCR decal for the boot just so people don't think my name is Terry Charles Rogers, nothing wrong with that name if someone has it but it's not mine lol

So if someone is on here with the FA plate, well done lol
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: jf111 on 18 February 2021, 21:02
GT11 TCR is up for auction soon, not a bad plate I guess!

https://www.dvlaauction.co.uk/index.php/view-registrations-mar/
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Kpow99 on 19 February 2021, 12:27
That looks a beauty Spittfire. Amazing value too, all things considered  :cool:

how about these beauties Exonian?! https://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=287362.0
Title: Re: How many fellow TCR owners are there on here?
Post by: Exonian on 20 February 2021, 11:30
Oohhh! Busy with work stuff yesterday and completely missed that.
Mildly more exotic than a base model Golf but not a patch on a TCR!!   :grin: