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[dubber36]

Did you get an engineer to spec the steel? With only 440mm masonry returns, plus a door opening so close in the side wall, there is little in the way of buttressing on the corners. I would have specified a steel wind post, bolted into the corner on each side to beef the structure up a bit more.

[Wo-Wo]

 

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[Wo-Wo]

Did you get an engineer to spec the steel? With only 440mm masonry returns, plus a door opening so close in the side wall, there is little in the way of buttressing on the corners. I would have specified a steel wind post, bolted into the corner on each side to beef the structure up a bit more.

Hi Steve

Yes cost me £250 for drawings and nearly a grand for the steel due to its specification. A friend of mine heads up my councils building control team so used guys he recommended to me to be on the safe side. The steel guy said he's never made steel like it before and the steel is sat on pad stones too.

Cheers

Neil

[dubber36]

I'm sure it will be fine Neil, but my concern would not be with the beam, or the padstones it's sat on, but the potential for deflection in the corners of the building. I would have either designed a 'goal post' frame or fixed steel angles into the internal corners to stiffen the building up.

I suppose most things have to be belt and braces designed these days. Years ago building were put up and altered with little thought to these things, and they're still standing.

Simon

[Wo-Wo]

I'm sure it will be fine Neil, but my concern would not be with the beam, or the padstones it's sat on, but the potential for deflection in the corners of the building. I would have either designed a 'goal post' frame or fixed steel angles into the internal corners to stiffen the building up.

I suppose most things have to be belt and braces designed these days. Years ago building were put up and altered with little thought to these things, and they're still standing.

Simon

No worries and thanks for sharing your insight. The project began with a neighbour "i'll sort that for you" but I was never going to go that route. At the end of the day if the roof caves in the people who have signed off the design will have a huge problem 

[Booth11]

I'm sure it will be fine Neil, but my concern would not be with the beam, or the padstones it's sat on, but the potential for deflection in the corners of the building. I would have either designed a 'goal post' frame or fixed steel angles into the internal corners to stiffen the building up.

I suppose most things have to be belt and braces designed these days. Years ago building were put up and altered with little thought to these things, and they're still standing.

Simon

No worries and thanks for sharing your insight. The project began with a neighbour "i'll sort that for you" but I was never going to go that route. At the end of the day if the roof caves in the people who have signed off the design will have a huge problem 

Don't forget to wear a hard hat and Hi-Vis vest when detailing. 

[Wo-Wo]

I'm sure it will be fine Neil, but my concern would not be with the beam, or the padstones it's sat on, but the potential for deflection in the corners of the building. I would have either designed a 'goal post' frame or fixed steel angles into the internal corners to stiffen the building up.

I suppose most things have to be belt and braces designed these days. Years ago building were put up and altered with little thought to these things, and they're still standing.

Simon

No worries and thanks for sharing your insight. The project began with a neighbour "i'll sort that for you" but I was never going to go that route. At the end of the day if the roof caves in the people who have signed off the design will have a huge problem 

Don't forget to wear a hard hat and Hi-Vis vest when detailing. 

I know Dubbers got me paranoid now!

[dubber36]

No need to be paranoid Neil, it would have fallen down by now if it was going to. Having said that, you haven't loaded up the loft up and we haven't had any high winds...yet.

Sorry, I'll keep quiet now. 

[Wo-Wo]

No need to be paranoid Neil, it would have fallen down by now if it was going to. Having said that, you haven't loaded up the loft up and we haven't had any high winds...yet.

Sorry, I'll keep quiet now. 

Yeah we have on both counts, so fingers crossed if its gonna fall down it'll be when Bevs car is in the garage and then I can replace the Bug with a Clubsport, but not with cr@ppy wheels!

[Booth11]

Don't forget to wear a hard hat and Hi-Vis vest when detailing. 

I know Dubbers got me paranoid now!

"Once an architect............" 

I share an office with an architect and everything is viewed with the 'architect's eye'.