cheers for the info guys , i have used a rotary a few times before and didn't have too much trouble , the paint on my car is really bad and really could do with a full rub down and blow over , i just thought untill i could afford it , trying to make the best of whats there ! saw the cheap ebay thing and it got me thinking!!what kinda compounds , renovaters ect would i need with either machine , tempted by the megs220 aswell gets a good write up!