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Title: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: kells on 13 March 2008, 23:32
Thought i may aswell start one of these threads seen as everyone else has them on going....better late than never i guess :grin:

I wont go into everything iv done to date as ill be here all week and im sure u cant be arsed to read that much....

most of this is from previous threads of mine so some of you will have seen parts of this already..

i want to keep this car looking original, (seen as my other car has almost every mod going) i also think the MK 3 looks at its best in OE looking form

only big thing i intend to do is the 20VT engine swap.

a few pics here after its first clean when i took over ownership, only additions here were new numberplates and a black rear VW badge.

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4678/golffront2kn8.jpg)

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3325/golkback1km2.jpg)

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7946/golfinteriorsh9.jpg)

(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/915/golfclocksik4.jpg)


I had a job on fixing all the bits that didnt work, New sunroof was first on the list, then i fitted a simple but affective sound system (a must in my line of work :cool:), Alpine HU (of course!) Rainbow Germanline Comonents up front, focal Coax in the back, A Focal 10 inch sub box lives in the boot and its all currently powered by a pheonix Gold amp... it sounds great.

Added a genuine VR deep splitter to the front and i also eventually sourced some Hella smoked twin headlights and had some covers sprayed black to match the car..

i then gave the engine a K&N induction kit as for some strange reason my car was terrible in first gear (very jumpy and stalled easy)
the K&N induction kit amazingly solved this :cool:. Didn’t like the crap mounting kit that came with it so I manufactured one out of 304 stainless and polished it up…as you do :tongue:

i then set about giving the grotty unloved and never cleaned engine a good clean, this is still a on going process but we are getting their..when i got the car, the engine was probably one of the most dirty and stained bays i have ever seen...it was sooooo bad. :rolleyes:

next up the dash needed a update, i wanted rid of all the green lighting that comes as standard


Got these clocks instead of the standard blacks, these are the genuine anniversary units

(http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/968/clocksoutcar1th9.jpg)

These will be subject to some major reworking of the green lighting they have as standard (see results below)

Heater controls / rear heated screen switch

(http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/2622/heatertoday1ii3.jpg)

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(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4702/0001367kg4.jpg)

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Rear ashtray, first pic is of it unlit, and as its so hard to see what the hell is going on in the second pic of it, the light goes under the white dot, and basically illuminates this and a panel that lights the inside of the ashtray

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5448/ashtrayunlitwy2.jpg)

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9760/ashtrayresiseps9.jpg)


Electric Window and Electric mirror switch

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Sunroof switch, i had to take this with flash on as they are so bright it just looks like a dot if not hahah :grin:

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/39/sunroofswitchmd7.jpg)


Needed to remove the Green leds from the mileages and clock displays

The late style clocks including my anniversay items dont have the push/twist fit user replacable bulbs like the early ones do, i nhave had to totally desolder the entire clocks, which take s a long time and nerves of steel  :laugh:

the MAF/Mileage displays are lit not by bulbs and green filters but by CHIP LEDS

The illusive Chip Leds can be seen here, iv put these next to my keys just so you can see how tiny these are... you need a steady hand to work with these, they are plasic so burn if the soldering iron touch them..so go steady


(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1992/keyspic5ob4.jpg)

the chip leds are vitually impossible to find, but i did and i soldered them back in place of the old ones (Not easy to do haha)

(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5451/mileagelcd2xl6.jpg)

We are now BLUE, but as you can see they are so bright i cant get focus at all, trust me these are bright as hell and look amazing and super clear to read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  well worth the hard work


(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9025/mileagelcdui8.jpg)

here they are using the flash, you can still see how blue they are with the flash on


(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/624/dialslitwd7.jpg)

cant get focus on the displays at all, this is with them dimmed a little too, you cant see the mileage and time on the pics but can in person, they are superb

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8674/dialslitwithflashbu9.jpg)

Took this with the flash turned on just so you can see the displays better

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4647/headlightswitchbp6.jpg)

Red headlight switch :)

(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3683/toggleswitchfm8.jpg)

my original sunroof toggle switch i changed to red is now put aside

(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9519/sunroofbuttonsyh1.jpg)

coz at the mo im rocking the later type Button switch (thanx to the salvage mk 4 clocks for the red chip leds)
these use the exact same type chip leds as the ones iv used in the LCD displays, i had to use red warning ones out of some mk 4 clocks i got hold of :) and then do some serious de soldering

(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2955/dashlithk3.jpg)

Lookin good :

I next had to change the ignition switch, was a pain in the ass to do, took 3 days to drill off the coller on top of the steering coloum :angry:

soon after the Jamex coilovers were on along with new rear brake discs, pads and calipers due to a siezed one that caused me no end of bother

I also added the HID kit to the headlights, these are bloody great in the hella projectors to say the least  :wink:

Here is how it stands at the mo

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(http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1702/sv201801mr3.gif)  
(front tyre here is spare alloy i have with a 205 tyre as i got a puncture on my regular wheel, rest are all switched to 195's as they look a hell of alot better)


Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 13 March 2008, 23:40
forgot to metion above, now have a Magnex twin round to fit, and also iv sourced a brand new set of Anniversary smoked fron fogs and indicators etc (thanx to my mate at the main dealers in leeds) and also soem genuie VAG smoked side repeaters which look alot better than the clears.

will post up pics soon
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: RiCHiE360 on 13 March 2008, 23:53
About time too mate...

Car looks as good as ever  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 14 March 2008, 00:04
About time too mate...

Car looks as good as ever  :cool:

 :cool: cheers dude! :wink:

i have a few other bits to add over the next week or so, so ill just keep updating with pics and so on...

when i think about it its took a lot to get it looking how it does, from having the paintless dent removal (89 dints in total) right through to simple things like having to replace the stolen end caps from the side skirts... :angry:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 14 March 2008, 00:20
looking mint as ever fella!   :cool:

good write up!  :afro:

nice one guy thanx  :wink:, had to keep the write up to a minimum, as i said before its amazing just how many small jobs you have to do to get it up to scratch, iv done a bout 100 times as many things to the car to what iv written about, would be more than likely be too boring for joe public to read about tho hahaha :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed: :smug: :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Neaty on 14 March 2008, 00:29
looking good mate.

your dials and interior lights look sweet  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: remapped on 14 March 2008, 00:42
have to say again nice one for that CLEAN engine bay,
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: dubsport on 14 March 2008, 11:16
that is actually my favorite mk3  :drool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: eightyeightmph on 14 March 2008, 11:37
Mine too!! :grin:

Kells, what do the Ani fogs look like? How are they different?

Really need to get the cockpit sorted with Red LED's!!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 14 March 2008, 12:14
rich89gti and 88mph thanx alot, means more than u realise to hear things like that :wink:

the annie fogs look very good, ill get some pics up soon as i can matey...im pleased with them, they are expnsive at 90 quid each (just for the fogs) i got them with 40% off tho as i have a good thing going on at the dealers :wink:
i got the annie indicators for a bargain 1 quid but the tow eye cover reflectors cost me 25 quid as thats what they cost VW bleieve it or not...

as said before i also got some genuine VAG side repeaters in smoked also, looks loads better :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: eightyeightmph on 14 March 2008, 12:16
Intrigued to see what they look like!

I've just got smoked ones (German made but not OEM VW) which I really like.

Hopefully get the Morrette's on at the weekend then only the paint left to do.

See how they compare, pretty similar cars when I'm done! :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 14 March 2008, 14:49
Intrigued to see what they look like!

I've just got smoked ones (German made but not OEM VW) which I really like.

Hopefully get the Morrette's on at the weekend then only the paint left to do.

See how they compare, pretty similar cars when I'm done! :grin:

hehe, ill have updated pics coming soon...the annie units loo really cool, tbh i dont have them on the car at the mo but tried one side out, was well happy with them :)

i have a few other bits to add too, so, as i said before ill get some pics up soon as i can

will be good to see yours when its done matey :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: boneybradley on 14 March 2008, 19:47
looking  :cool: as ever..... saying that black mk3's :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

:wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: westfield on 14 March 2008, 19:55
KELLS-That Magnex back box will make the back end look better :wink: :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 14 March 2008, 21:03
KELLS-That Magnex back box will make the back end look better :wink: :grin:

you bet yer boots it will :cool:, your a star matey thanx alot, a good home is where its gonna be at :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: LazyLunatic on 15 March 2008, 00:12
kells m8, well ... i'm speechless, I didn't realise just how much effort you have put in AND .... the rewards you have got from doing it!!!!! It is one damn awesome Golf!!!!

LL ;)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 15 March 2008, 00:17
 :smiley: thanx alot matey :wink:, always really good and nice to hear positive comments, still lots to be done with this car, will have a few more snap shots of a couple of new mods next week or so :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Dinky on 15 March 2008, 08:53
Nice one Kells... even I have to admit that I like your mk3! :shocked: :smiley:
That interior looks very slick... :afro:

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: DazVR6 on 15 March 2008, 12:11
Well done Kells, you've made the mk3 look even better than it already did.. :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 15 March 2008, 18:02
Thanx ALOT guys (and girls of course :wink:)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 March 2008, 18:54
Ok so we got the magnex on FINALLY!!!, wasnt as easy as we first thought...it didnt fit on my standard middle box as it should have, we spent hours cutting more and more off, but apparently my middle box was a aftermarket one which was different to how the OE one would have been... so...

off the car went to have the rest of the system made up from 304 stainless up to the cat

the guys still ahd problems as when they attaced the rear hanger to the rubber it sat to the left and not within the cut out in the bumper!!!

so off came the mounting bracket and a new one welded on in a better position.

sounds pretty cool, not that loud which is how i wanted it, was a little worried with removing the middlew box, its no way as loud or as mean sounding as the custom mongoose on my jap car, but i really didnt want the golf to be loud :sick: so im happy :wink: :cool:

crap pic, took this on the way home after picking the car up, will get better pics up in the next few days including pics of the new genuine anniversary front Smoked fog lights, indicators and blanks, which all works out to be very expensive (but i got a deal from my mate at the dealers :wink:) and i will also get pics of the new momo steering wheel i should have fitted in the next day or so  :cool:

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8306/magnex1ku3.gif) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: boneybradley on 25 March 2008, 18:57
sits better then mine but time (and someone needing the ramp) halted my fitment...who fitted it kells and would they sort mine??
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 March 2008, 19:02
well we had a go ourselves untill we realised the middle box on mine was a crap one, so in the end it went to alpha in leeds who are a powerflow dealer, they did a good job, had the car for 3 hours, wasnt sure if it hangs down a centimeter too much :laugh: but its hard to tell with the car been so low, so yeah im pretty happy with it, and theirs no knocking what so ever and its a very good tight fit, he did say theirs almost no space at all to get the magnex type to fit, was a close call..
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: RiCHiE360 on 25 March 2008, 19:05
Looks 110% mint kells mate!

Bet your chuffed with it after the initial hold up..

While i remember what tyres are you runnin? 195/50 or 195/45 make too please  :rolleyes: haha

Nice one
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 March 2008, 19:13
hahaha  they are 195/ 50, im not sure of the name tbh, will check in a bit and fire over a pm for you matey, i got them as they look Spot on, from my mate who works at ATS, and iv been happy with them but my mate just got (and i cant spell this) Verdistynes on his they look AWESOME!! too..

yeah pleased with the exhaust just getting used to how it looks as iv been running round with no back box so to see 2 big shiny pipes looks mad hahahaha
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 March 2008, 19:16
Here is another and the only other pic i have right now, more to come in next day or so.. :cool:

(http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/28/magnex2vu6.gif) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: filthy on 25 March 2008, 23:10
Looking good  :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 27 March 2008, 19:49
the momo boss didnt fit ffs, thats 2 i have had sent to me now which are wrong...the latest is for a airbag model, it has the same part number too which is confusing, so now i am on the lookout for a momo boss kit to suit a mk 3 without airbag...

annie fogs lights, blanks and indicators are all on now too, i have sealed them as a extra precaution with all this sh!t weather i cant be arsed with them misting up :cool

pics tomo hopefully if the weather is ok!

The magnex is also great with no probs, drove it to doncaster and back last night (from Leeds)... first impressions are good :smug:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: eightyeightmph on 27 March 2008, 20:18
Thats crazy the first one I got (off ebay) fiited straight on?

What's stopping it fitting? I'll try & get the part no. off mine if that'll help?


Really want a magnex exhaust or at least one like that - the DTM is getting boring, pretty damn loud!

Really like it it dude, looks good! :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Rhyso on 27 March 2008, 20:54
car looks mint  :cool:

love the interior mods :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 27 March 2008, 21:36
Thats crazy the first one I got (off ebay) fiited straight on?

What's stopping it fitting? I'll try & get the part no. off mine if that'll help?


Really want a magnex exhaust or at least one like that - the DTM is getting boring, pretty damn loud!

Really like it it dude, looks good! :smiley:


it has the copper ring missing on the one i have, and also the wire that connects to the horn push!!, apparently u take this bit off the airbag steering wheel and attach it to the boss!

on my car you need the boss which is for  non airbag model, it has the copper ring and wire for horn, plus the tab that cancels the indicators

i also had one sent which isnt even a momo but was in a momo box with the mk 3 part number...turns out its actually a mountney boss for a mk 2!!! kid is refunding me tho..



Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 27 March 2008, 21:36
car looks mint  :cool:

love the interior mods :afro:

cheers dude :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 28 March 2008, 18:32
went to my mum and dads today...been getting moaned at a little due to me taking over the garage to store cars and things for my cars haha

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whilst their i got the anniversary front fogs on, all genuine from the main dealer, before i fitted them iv sealed all the joins so they will never leak...they are notorious for that as any mk 3 owner will know!

i also ditched the orange indicator bulbs in favour of some silver ones so theirs no trace of orange on the front end :wink: :cool:

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here u can see the indicators flash orange still with these bulbs in

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fitted the spec r battery cover i got from a geezer on here

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then cleaned my mothers car for her whilst i was their, although it rained so it was a waste of time!

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will give the golf a full clean tomo...if the rain holds off that it!





Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Neaty on 28 March 2008, 22:29
look good there kells...the mk3, not the ka  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 28 March 2008, 23:11
look good there kells...the mk3, not the ka  :grin:

haha cheers neaty :cool:

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: boneybradley on 29 March 2008, 00:13
will be better to see yours and richies in the flesh tho on sunday!! best give mine a clean at some point... need to get some gleaming black mk3 photos.. :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: eightyeightmph on 31 March 2008, 10:19
will be better to see yours and richies in the flesh tho on sunday!! best give mine a clean at some point... need to get some gleaming black mk3 photos.. :wink:

Would be awesome to meet up with you guys, have all the MK3's together for a few pics (& grab Kells to get my LED's done :tongue: ) maybe later on in the year?

Love the Ani fogs dude, look like my ones - german made but not OEM - I sealed them before I fitted but one STILL fogs up, so that's going to be done again!!

Missed out on that engine tray on fleabay, will have to keep my eyes peeled for one!

What's under the sheet then?? :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 31 March 2008, 17:19
will be better to see yours and richies in the flesh tho on sunday!! best give mine a clean at some point... need to get some gleaming black mk3 photos.. :wink:

Would be awesome to meet up with you guys, have all the MK3's together for a few pics (& grab Kells to get my LED's done :tongue: ) maybe later on in the year?

Love the Ani fogs dude, look like my ones - german made but not OEM - I sealed them before I fitted but one STILL fogs up, so that's going to be done again!!

Missed out on that engine tray on fleabay, will have to keep my eyes peeled for one!

What's under the sheet then?? :grin:


yeah i sealed mine in a big way hahah just to be sure, not fogged up once yet and they no way will haha

a meet is deffo on the cards too matey, we will have to sort it out :wink:

under the sheet lies the swift GTI :cool:

deffo love the look of the front with the annie fogs etc, much better.., oh and iv noticed some copy engine covers on the bay at around 37 quid, (200 quid at the dealer for the VAG version like mine) now im not sure on the fit of them or the material either but its a option if u get desperate, the material does not look as flexible on the copy tho...
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 12 April 2008, 16:35


Noticed a nasty little oil leak from the rocker cover which was getting worse and i was getting sick of wiping it every day so i decided to give the old girl a new one...

quick call to my contact at the dealers and i had the new gasket....

(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9117/newgasketab0.gif)

in between it pissing it down i got car in bits

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4367/cam1ww4.gif) (http://imageshack.us)

and the old gasket of the lump

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which turns out to be a non genuine part at closer inspection!

anyhow, ten mins later she is all back together but i noticed a split on the underside of the breather pipe marked with a GREEN "X"

so i now need to replace this part, iv put a small amount of silicone on it for now till i get back to the dealers, i must say this breather pipe is very thin rubber!

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2618/herenj4.gif) (http://imageshack.us)


more mods coming soon :)

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: eightyeightmph on 12 April 2008, 20:37
Noticed those but from experience I'll hold out for OEM VW.

One came up on eBay the other week but I missed it!

Still tied up with panel prepping for now though! :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: westfield on 12 April 2008, 20:47
Looking good KELLS will lookout 4 you Tomorrow if your at Pod??
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 13 April 2008, 15:44
Noticed those but from experience I'll hold out for OEM VW.

One came up on eBay the other week but I missed it!

Still tied up with panel prepping for now though! :wink:


yeah you do right matey

im toying with what to do next/first, either full respray or 20vt or some other things???

hahaha :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 13 April 2008, 15:45
Looking good KELLS will lookout 4 you Tomorrow if your at Pod??

Yo matey hows things?

no way would i have made pod, was dj'ing at an illegal do last night and so far iv had zero sleep!! hope the day was good tho?????

 :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 05 May 2008, 16:50
not had much time on the golf at the minute due to working on the jap car and organising some events, but iv been trying to decide what to do witht he rear lights, i actually really liken the standard smoked gti lights so i decided to mod them slightly yet keep the much needed OE look, so i bought a second set of rear lights off the bay, won them for 8 quid...good result i thought and means i can save my original gti lights in standard form in case i need them for mot which tbh i very much doubt as these ones iv modded shine orange perfect, just as though it came from the factory like this..

(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1247/rearlights2af7.jpg)


(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8618/rearlights1wx7.jpg)


(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/271/rearlights3mn9.jpg)


looks loads better i think
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: mark3valver on 05 May 2008, 17:06
looking good, really like the back - tinted just enough to look oem but not too much!!!

do the 20VT before a respray, looking cool is no where near as fun as going fast imo

 :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 05 May 2008, 17:10
looking good, really like the back - tinted just enough to look oem but not too much!!!

do the 20VT before a respray, looking cool is no where near as fun as going fast imo

 :grin:


thanx dude, and yeah i think its just right and keeps the OE look as i need with this car (the only way with a mk 3 in my opinion)

and as for the conversion, i think you could be right hahaha
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: boneybradley on 05 May 2008, 23:03
did you use tinting spray?? as i want red and black and was thinking of buying some normal mk3 lights and tinting the indicator area
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 05 May 2008, 23:13
yeah i did, used the E-tech brand kit, smoked is the colour i used, but if you look at my thread with swift pics, i converted those lights to all red using a red tint kit, work well, the ones on my golf illuminate as good as they do from the factory but the red on the swifts indicator part needed green bulbs to make illuminate orange through the red if this makes sense lol

i also toyed with the idea of using standard mk 3 lenses, they can be had for next to nothing too
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: boneybradley on 05 May 2008, 23:17
I will look into that e-tech stuff.... whre did you buy it from? and how much?

here's my idea...smoke the indicators and reverse light area keeping the red bottom...should be cheap and match my motors colours?

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l125/74superman/Tail%20lights/mk3golftaillightls.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 05 May 2008, 23:23
thats exactly what i was gonna do if i went down the standard non gti lense route, will look good i think, a bit like mk 2 16v lamps which i always liked

got the kit here, its not the cheepest tint on the market but for a few quid more than cheepo stuff its well worth it as its high quality and you also get the remover with it.

http://search.stores.ebay.co.uk/Waxacar-Car-Styling-01928-581284_light-tinting_W0QQfciZ6QQfclZ4QQfsnZWaxacarQ20CarQ20StylingQ2001928Q20581284QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfsubZ0QQsaselZ28857359QQsofpZ0

iv got around 4 or 5 light ish coats on mine to get them how mine look now, bearing in mind the standard gti lights are smoked a tad already
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: remapped on 11 May 2008, 23:40
car looking  :cool: :cool: kells !!

also temped to blacken the rear parts of the orange on mine !
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 13 May 2008, 20:27
Cheers matey :wink:
the back lights really look cool in person, had a few folk stop me and ask where i bought them haha..

MOT time tomo :rolleyes: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 01 August 2008, 22:21
tiny update,

Fitted these rear headrests (finally) last week, genuine kit from the dealers, had to take seats to bits to fit :laugh:

Gave her a full service last weekend too, did absolutly everything, all the filters, spark plugs, all fluids bla bla bla, got all parts at the dealer for cost price and got the oil their for free, bonus :)
Car runs super sweet as a nut!!!!

anyhow, pic of headrests in the rear

(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5861/headrestqa1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

and gave it a quick clean earlier...

(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2284/sv201978uk0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8292/sv201980lu7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/3171/sv201981gn0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3562/sv201984ds2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5554/sv201985smallwt8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2404/sv201993nt1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2625/sv201996qh7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9964/sv201998nj5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/3333/frontnt2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5044/sv202001xw3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: tom26 on 08 August 2008, 11:27
car looking awesome.
very tidy and understated - great job!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 08 August 2008, 13:26
car looking awesome.
very tidy and understated - great job!

Thanx tom matey :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 30 August 2008, 21:10
Tiny update

decided to fit a new coolant bottle as mine was soooo stained from the old orange coolant which has been used all its life, tried everhything to clean it but results were not what i wanted.

Got the old bottle off and had my new G12 Pink coolant at the ready

(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8931/oldxk8.jpg)         (http://imageshack.us)  (http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6067/g122nk4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Got the super clear/white bottle on and the coolant in, just gotta re do the levels tomorrow :)  i can now see the bloody levels at last!!

(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4218/newbottle2ue6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

all good now :)

got the (now super rare) Rain Wizzard so will try this stuff out on all glass, mirrors and lights

love the container it comes in,

(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1815/rainwizzardic0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

more updates coming soon...
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: davero on 30 August 2008, 22:09
First time reading this thread, kells. Awesome car you got there mate. Very mean and moody
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 30 August 2008, 22:19
First time reading this thread, kells. Awesome car you got there mate. Very mean and moody

Thanx Dave, appreciate the comment :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kniterider on 30 August 2008, 22:23
for a 5door like mine i kind of like where your going... deffo need the new bottle... mine looks like a rusty spunk ball too.... ,  deffo need one of those and some g12, how much for bottle / coolant and will the coolant do a vr6 ?? (normally independant vw garage do mine but this is strictly budget so its all diy.. lol)

 :cool:

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 30 August 2008, 22:41
for a 5door like mine i kind of like where your going... deffo need the new bottle... mine looks like a rusty spunk ball too.... ,  deffo need one of those and some g12, how much for bottle / coolant and will the coolant do a vr6 ?? (normally independant vw garage do mine but this is strictly budget so its all diy.. lol)

 :cool:



hi matey

yeah trying to keep the golf looking OE ish but slightly more mean, it seems to works for it, get alot of attention when im out in it, the 5 doors were needed as this car is whats used to run my club events, so she does get used well and hauls some of the worlds best djs!

anyhow, the bottles are around 30 quid i think, i got mine for cost price as a friend works at the dealer, the VR6 bottle is slightly different..

The G12 coolant is around 8 quid a bottle, i needed 2 as my system holds 6L, so iv done a 50 / 50 mix and it will be fine for the VR6, its the best and latest coolent they do, its actually called G12 PLUS..

the new bottle has made a huge difference to the old one, very pleased with it

right the part number for the VR6 bottle is 021 121 407 and should cost you around 28 quid
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kniterider on 30 August 2008, 22:45
cheers will check out them numbers and get it sorted

 :cool:

must also sort a thread on mine as it went when server went down... not seen it since...


 :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Horney on 31 August 2008, 13:40
I'm not really a fan of the G3 but I do very much like this car.

Nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 31 August 2008, 13:49
I'm not really a fan of the G3 but I do very much like this car.

Nick


thanks alot :), the corrado looks good in the pics btw, looks wicked in the blue yours is in  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Horney on 31 August 2008, 14:18
It's black actually, photos were from the for sale ad, I'm actually just about to go out and shoot some better ones.

nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 31 August 2008, 14:22
wow looks blue in those pics in the sig,im interested to see more pics of it showing the black better (my favorite colour of course hehe)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 23 September 2008, 18:39
got the momo wheel on finally :grin:, 4th time lucky with the boss kit, wheel is borrowed from the swift Gti i have in storage

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/833/momo1mh0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/604/momo2tv4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

here are some more random shots....

(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7581/sv202234vr1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9537/isvhs2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5526/enginebitsdp3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)



(http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/377/rockerhm4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)




(http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/8201/engine1wt9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4131/clocks2iz2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5474/clocksjr0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/633/headlightswitch1up9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/2371/heatedcontrolsqb3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7200/electricwindowswitchkx9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5494/sv202215vo2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/8635/backym8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5295/golf3tt7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2443/golfgtilm3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/453/glolfgti2oo4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1346/sv202224by0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)






Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: boneybradley on 23 September 2008, 18:49
kells i'm going to have to get my switches sorted!! the pics make me  :drool: oh i'm running blue led's on standard clocks now.... so if you sort any blue switches let me know.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 23 September 2008, 18:55
kells i'm going to have to get my switches sorted!! the pics make me  :drool: oh i'm running blue led's on standard clocks now.... so if you sort any blue switches let me know.

just got a load of red leds, they came today haha, let me sort some blue ones and we will have a chat  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: RiCHiE360 on 24 September 2008, 19:03
Lookin really well R'kid  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 24 September 2008, 19:13
Lookin really well R'kid  :cool:

cheers bro!!  cars been in bits since you were up last, few more bits to do too, as ever yours is looking uber cool !!!!!!   :cool:

will catch up with you soon matey  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Vdubbster on 24 September 2008, 20:57
you sticking with the standard rims?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 24 September 2008, 22:12
you sticking with the standard rims?


Hmmmmmmm its a hard one for me, i have a second set of standard rims which are going to have something done to them... i really am trying to keep it OE plus look inc the rims, as i love how it looks, but theirs a few rims i also do like...its taking alot of thought, i dont want to kill it...

will see what i thin k when i do what i plan to the second set of rims i have got.. :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: mk2majik on 25 September 2008, 09:56
Never really liked the mk3 gti,UNTIL NOW your car rocks mate makes me want to sell the mk2 and buy one simply stunning OEM+ all the way for me,know what you mean about wheel choice its so important it will make it or break it took me a while to decide on the ronals but think i got away with it,good luck dude  :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 September 2008, 10:05
Never really liked the mk3 gti,UNTIL NOW your car rocks mate makes me want to sell the mk2 and buy one simply stunning OEM+ all the way for me,know what you mean about wheel choice its so important it will make it or break it took me a while to decide on the ronals but think i got away with it,good luck dude  :smiley:

Thank you very much for the comment! :smiley:

means alot coming from someone with a very nice mk 2.. and yes you deffo pulled it off with the rims on your car, looks gorgeous :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 24 November 2008, 13:17
Just a very quick update

purchased 2 sets of wheels

1 more set of standard GTI rims same as whats already on my car, these will be refurbed in some way or form, still deciding

and iv also picked up a set of something else too :lipsrsealed: these will be going on after the new year for summer use once they have been refurbed to the finish i want  :cool:

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: davero on 24 November 2008, 15:17
Spill Kells, what are they
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 24 November 2008, 19:29
all will be revealed soon :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Josho on 24 November 2008, 20:05
Tip for them MFA LEDs, heat up some tweezers with a lighter, or better a mini blowtorch or hob and then squeze gently on each side where the solder is, then it melts the solder, you put it in place and done.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 24 November 2008, 20:16
not sure what you mean their matey, their is 3 different type of dials all different in regard to how you swap the LEDS, mine have the chip leds which u cant buy, believe me i know how to swap the leds, iv done is Mannnnnnny times :grin:  and have some very nifty tools to do it with, a handfull of people have seen me do the job :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Wayne on 24 November 2008, 21:59
I have a feeling I know what rims you have got.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Bobby_t_16v on 24 November 2008, 22:12
Excellent thread  :smiley:  Attempted to do my heater switches, I figured out the knobs but I just cant get the actual dials to make them light up, if you can give me a hint of what I should be doing, it would be much appreciated  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Vdubbster on 24 November 2008, 22:22
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9638/novaalloyzd4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

With some adapters of course
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: eightyeightmph on 25 November 2008, 12:00
 :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 November 2008, 12:52
hahahahahahaha
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: RiCHiE360 on 25 November 2008, 15:57
 :wink:











 :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 November 2008, 17:19
hahaha yo dude.. wheres them pics  :wink: :wink: :cool: :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: RiCHiE360 on 25 November 2008, 17:37
Ah sh!t a forgot. ill try and take some on ma camera if not ill take some on ma fone and text them to you asap :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 November 2008, 18:07
Ah sh!t a forgot. ill try and take some on ma camera if not ill take some on ma fone and text them to you asap :laugh:

nice swan matey :grin: :cool:
Title: richie360 I NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE!
Post by: volvo1980 on 27 November 2008, 17:35
i am thinking of putting a mk4 steeing wheel on a mk3 and since you have already done it i am wondering if you can give me a idea of how you did it and what is needed, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 27 November 2008, 18:28
not me, i run a momo wheel, speak to Richie  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Josho on 28 November 2008, 17:39
Are you on about surface mount chip LEDs?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 28 November 2008, 19:51
yes but theirs lots of different types of them...
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Josho on 29 November 2008, 11:42
Where did you get them from?

I know someone that deals with all different sizes LEDs, including a number of SMT's.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Karloss on 29 November 2008, 13:21
Whos Richie ?
Has he done the MK4 to 3 swap on the steering wheel
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 17 March 2009, 12:05
Just a quick update... got my rims in the refurbers today.. House of Kolour finish, should have them back and on the car in the next couple of days...

i cant wait  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Wayne on 17 March 2009, 12:10
Looking forward to the pics.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Dec on 17 March 2009, 16:06
Oooh I like the sound of that :D Hope your going to get pics up straight away! ;)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 17 March 2009, 16:16
Oooh I like the sound of that :D Hope your going to get pics up straight away! ;)

yes matey pics will be up soon as i have them back, they have told me 4 days as im having them done to my spec....not sure pics will show it off propperly but they will look fly...

i have put my stamp on it, polished the centre caps by hand and also hand painted the colour crests for the centres which took almost 2 hours per badge and i did 7 of them (i have some spare caps)  im very happy with my handy work
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Vdubbster on 17 March 2009, 16:44
Good going mate
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 20 March 2009, 19:34
Rims are on, too dark to take pics but she looks EVIL :)

pics to come tomo... im loviin it...
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Wayne on 20 March 2009, 21:47
Looking forward to the pics.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 20 March 2009, 22:18
It's never too dark  :grin: Find somewhere light like TESCO hahaha (I know how much you hate car parks ;)).
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Vdubbster on 21 March 2009, 01:33
its gonna look 2 sick  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Josho on 21 March 2009, 09:33
PICS! PICS! PICS! PICS!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 21 March 2009, 19:01
here we go folks a few pics, really busy with the night club at the mo so only had chance to get these done quickly for you to get an idea

colour is House of Kolour SILVER over black which give this great grey colour, iv got added sparkle in their too but pics dont show it, its a 4 stage paint set up

centre caps were fully refurbed by myself, fully mirror polished with hand painted porsche crest which i had to carefully remove, not easy at all to do the caps, around 2 hours each and i have 8 :)


(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/931/pic1uvm.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic1uvm.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6651/pic2o.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic2o.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7885/pic3duw.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic3duw.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4026/pic4qhc.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic4qhc.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1227/pic5n.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic5n.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9543/pic6a.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic6a.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1504/pic7a.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic7a.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6316/pic8f.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic8f.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/726/pic9y.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic9y.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9940/pic10i.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic10i.jpg)

here are my hand painted badges (the old original finish one is to the far left)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4790/5capsplusold.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5capsplusold.jpg)

here is how the badges started

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7880/afternitromorse.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=afternitromorse.jpg)


im well happy with it all
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** NEW WHEELS PICS **
Post by: ace on 21 March 2009, 19:08
lookin very nice mate. what size adapters u using as i need to order mine this week.

did u manage to get 8's all round???
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** NEW WHEELS PICS **
Post by: kells on 21 March 2009, 19:14
im rocking 25mm adapters matey, i bought a second set of rims for so i could have 4 x 8", i now have 4 X 6" for sale

the amount of people that look at the car now is just unreal, even folk who are not into cars, im very happy with it, didnt want to go a bright silver and risk looking boy racer ish if you get me hahahaha
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** NEW WHEELS PICS **
Post by: ace on 21 March 2009, 19:18
yeah no what u mean, just got mine refurbed back to original. was looking at 20mm adapters, whats the final offest on yours now? cos i got 7's on the front that are et55 and the rears are 8's et52, planning on putting 195/40 on mine, as its a bit lower than yours
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** NEW WHEELS PICS **
Post by: kells on 21 March 2009, 19:22
final offset is 27

didnt wanna go 40 profile on the 8" as theirs almost no rubber so the rims would get fooked quickly

mines around 70mm down at the mo, having it fully arch rolled next week at my mates bodyshop and then ill have the thing ditched into the weeds
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** NEW WHEELS PICS **
Post by: shepgti on 21 March 2009, 19:34
looks good man, love the centre caps did a real good job on them! not too sure about the colour choice but thats just my boy racer opinion!  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** NEW WHEELS PICS **
Post by: kells on 21 March 2009, 19:37
hahaha cheers bud

wanting a mean and subtle look for this car, hence trying to keeps things very low key, hard to get a pic of how they are in person but they sparkle like a mo fo..

centre caps was one of them jobs i had to question myself "why did i start this" when i was half way through :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** NEW WHEELS PICS **
Post by: shepgti on 21 March 2009, 19:40
haha, well worth it in the end!
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Post by: kells on 21 March 2009, 19:42
yes deffo, so pleased with them..car just looks great now..without been too much if that makes sense, not liking leaving left till daft o clock in the morning outside the club tho :undecided:
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Post by: davero on 21 March 2009, 19:43
Looks fantastic mate.  :cool:
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Post by: shepgti on 21 March 2009, 19:46
yes deffo, so pleased with them..car just looks great now..without been too much if that makes sense, not liking leaving left till daft o clock in the morning outside the club tho :undecided:

catch 22 really isnt it. got to get a balance between looking good and not being nicked!!  :grin:
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Post by: kells on 21 March 2009, 19:49
i know mate.. rims are worth more than the bloody car itself hahaha

@ Dave16v - cheers matey
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Post by: shepgti on 21 March 2009, 19:53
stick another set of locking bolts on them!  :wink:
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Post by: kells on 21 March 2009, 19:58
stick another set of locking bolts on them!  :wink:

haha i got the new mcgard ones on as my mate whos into that sort of thing told me those are the ones to have, but tbh if they want them, they will get them one way or another.... or the whole car...

i jsut dont like leaving it, really loving these rims man :)
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Post by: T_J_G on 21 March 2009, 20:53
Looks spot on Kells!
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Post by: eightyeightmph on 21 March 2009, 22:04
Holy sh!t this is the first time I've noticed yours is a 5 door!!  :grin:

As for the Porsche rims? Not very in keeping with your OEM+ style now is it?  :tongue:

Looks pretty good, however I think you may need to go lower!  :lipsrsealed:

Very tidy work on the centres though dude! :afro:
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Post by: Wayne on 21 March 2009, 23:24
Stunning, the best wheel for a mk3 by miles, great choice of colour as well.
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Post by: Josho on 21 March 2009, 23:38
SWEET! Looks awesome, you did an excellent job on the caps. How?
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Post by: Vdubbster on 22 March 2009, 00:41
A*  :smiley:
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Post by: spunkymonkey on 22 March 2009, 01:28
Ah yes my D'90 brother, tis a revolution!!!
I dont know what it is with them on a mk3 but its just right.

FTW

Good job  :cool:
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Post by: kells on 22 March 2009, 03:59
cheers for the replys guys

@88, their was no other wheel i liked at all, honest!, i feelo the d90 still fits well with a OEM look, hence the + part :)

is going lower pal, i not had chance only got them on yesterday evening late and iv been very busy with the club, iv just popped home as it is (4am) going back to the club now so tomorrow (or is thatr today?) ill be in bed!

:)
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Post by: Dec on 22 March 2009, 09:54
Love them mate! look sweet :cool:
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Post by: eightyeightmph on 22 March 2009, 12:52
Yea, must admit D90's suit it, and I see where you're coming from keeping it OEM+ :afro:
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Post by: kells on 22 March 2009, 15:08
Yea, must admit D90's suit it, and I see where you're coming from keeping it OEM+ :afro:

i absolutly love it, i have managed to still keep the understated look i wanted, smoked lights etc... didnt want the wheels to be too bling plus i love the fact they look so fat haha, makes car look evil when u see it in person, ALOT of people look at it when its out on the road now
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Post by: Dec on 22 March 2009, 16:28
I hope your going to spring fest? :D wana see this car!
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Post by: kells on 22 March 2009, 17:09
I hope your going to spring fest? :D wana see this car!

haha when and where is it dude, my heads fooked iv had no sleeep, back in the club later too, got all sorts of dates in my head with the events and stuff so let me know when it is and ill check my callender, aslong as i dont have no big events on or anything id be their :)
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Post by: GOLF_MK on 22 March 2009, 17:44
Look great, i always think the MK3 looks good with rims that have a 'lot of metal'  :smiley:
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Post by: RiCHiE360 on 22 March 2009, 20:11
DUDEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

They look so slick, that paint is absolutley awesome! Looks like a different car  :cool:

How you findin the 45's up front for catchin?

Rich
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 22 March 2009, 20:25
What size wheels are the kells? And tyre size?


Looking good, you know what I mean :)
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Post by: kells on 22 March 2009, 20:30
richie my man, im lovin them hahaha

no catchin at all so far, getting arches rolled and dumping it :)

thought you would like these :), you know the score   :cool:

shady these are all 8" x 16"  195-45-16 yokohama S drives
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Post by: shepgti on 22 March 2009, 20:30
What size wheels are the kells? And tyre size?


Looking good, you know what I mean :)

16x8 with 195/45/r16's....

keep up shady!  :grin:

EDIT:awwww now i look silly  :sad:
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 22 March 2009, 21:02
Cheers kells  :grin: thanks for nothing shep  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Just asking as VRDan isn't sure on what tyres to put on his new 15s, but nor do I now lol!
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Post by: shepgti on 22 March 2009, 21:09
Cheers kells  :grin: thanks for nothing shep  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Just asking as VRDan isn't sure on what tyres to put on his new 15s, but nor do I now lol!

hehe, the standard profile for a 15 is 50 (195 on a 6j)
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Post by: kells on 22 March 2009, 21:10
i had 195/50 on my gti 15's
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 22 March 2009, 21:11
We'll have to see what he gets but he needs something thinner than what's on there atm. :)


As said, kells looking good, glad you're pleased with them. I'm in desperate need of getting mine refurbished now, hopefully gonna be coming into some money in April but need to get mechanical work done on the car before it's MOT in June. (I think lol).
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Post by: Wayne on 22 March 2009, 21:12
I ran 195/50/15's, much cheaper and easier to find than 205/50's.
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Post by: davero on 22 March 2009, 22:25
How are you finding the s drives so far? I think they are an excellent tyre.
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Post by: Dec on 22 March 2009, 22:37
I hope your going to spring fest? :D wana see this car!

haha when and where is it dude, my heads fooked iv had no sleeep, back in the club later too, got all sorts of dates in my head with the events and stuff so let me know when it is and ill check my callender, aslong as i dont have no big events on or anything id be their :)

Next sunday (29th) at Santa pod mate :)

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=101368.0
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Post by: kells on 22 March 2009, 23:36
How are you finding the s drives so far? I think they are an excellent tyre.

so far they are superb, better than the paradas and i still havnt got them bedded in yet if that makes sense
only thing is they are not a all season tyre so no good in ice/snow but thats ok as the d90s wont be on in the winter as ill run my winter wheels

dec next sunday is a no no for me as i have a event on the sunday night in the club and im not only dj in at it im actually running the event
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Post by: Dec on 23 March 2009, 06:37
Ah fair enough mate :( lol
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 12:46
Ah fair enough mate :( lol

i really need to get to some of these meets :(

or why dont we arrange a meet up in my club hahaha, get everyone out for a pppparrrttty...
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Post by: Dec on 23 March 2009, 12:56
Are you going to go to edition38 or anything?

Would love to come haha, haven't a clue where to go In Leeds :P apparently there's two ends where the clubs are though as my friend lives there. She said there's the hardcore end and the normal people end haha 
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 13:04
Are you going to go to edition38 or anything?

Would love to come haha, haven't a clue where to go In Leeds :P apparently there's two ends where the clubs are though as my friend lives there. She said there's the hardcore end and the normal people end haha 

theirs no hardcore end now really, its all sold out... getting too ceoomercial unless you know where to go hehe, the club im working for now (apart from my own stuff in the city) is outside of leeds but its good, and it is seriously full of birds haha, big car park accross from it for all the cars too haha

not sure what events ill make it to matey, edition 38 i wanted to go dj at but they already had the djs sorted so that is a shame as i would have liked that
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Post by: RiCHiE360 on 23 March 2009, 14:02
Dec im gona make sure brad comes to at least one show this year, as soon as they start im gona be callin your fone fella, theres only so many times i'l let you off for bein busy DJ'in :grin:

P.S. just crash the decks at Edition.. They wont know, they'll all be chewin there faces off anyways  :wink:
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Post by: gjroe78 on 23 March 2009, 14:17
lookin sweet kells  :cool: good choice
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 14:45
cheers giroe matey :)


and Richie mate, yes man i need to get to some of these do's, anyhow, i wanna take you to this club, you just have to check this out we we need to arrange a weekend mate and have a mad one :)

give me a chance to see this new car of yours too:)
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Post by: Dec on 23 March 2009, 15:22
Dec im gona make sure brad comes to at least one show this year, as soon as they start im gona be callin your fone fella, theres only so many times i'l let you off for bein busy DJ'in :grin:

P.S. just crash the decks at Edition.. They wont know, they'll all be chewin there faces off anyways  :wink:

Sweet :P


My mates got decks in the back of his van haha :P He's not going to hold back playing some tunes lol
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 16:04
Dec im gona make sure brad comes to at least one show this year, as soon as they start im gona be callin your fone fella, theres only so many times i'l let you off for bein busy DJ'in :grin:

P.S. just crash the decks at Edition.. They wont know, they'll all be chewin there faces off anyways  :wink:

Sweet :P


My mates got decks in the back of his van haha :P He's not going to hold back playing some tunes lol


i woulnt mind havin a blast on them hehe :grin:
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Post by: Dec on 23 March 2009, 16:43
Probably nothing up to your standard :P

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v315/walshy200sx/cruises/?action=view&current=14032009029.flv
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 16:50
Probably nothing up to your standard :P

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v315/walshy200sx/cruises/?action=view&current=14032009029.flv


hahaha lovin it haha not my style music obviously but likin the van, those aint Technics decks tho unfortunatly, or at meast they dont look like it
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Post by: Dec on 23 March 2009, 16:56
Havent a clue mate! Got any vids of you doing your thing? :D
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 17:01
Havent a clue mate! Got any vids of you doing your thing? :D

got vids of my club night yeah

here we go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3nOZ95mQPU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwn0KrLlNqo&feature=related

here is a really cool one from one of the many partys i held in the Leeds Corn Exchange (2000 people)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i27Rzpu06w&feature=channel_page
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Post by: Dec on 23 March 2009, 17:06
Sweet! Like the last one best ;)
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 17:14
Sweet! Like the last one best ;)

yeah the classics events are very cool, i love my old skool house, its what i grew up on u see :)  sound quality bad on that vid as i had a 40k sound system, (blew the roof off) was so loud it caused thousands of pounds worth of damage to stuff in the shops, and that caused me no end of bother (corn exchange is a wicked listed building used as a shopping complex, shaped like a dome)

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Post by: Dec on 23 March 2009, 17:21
Ooops haha!

If im ever up near leeds, ill give you a bell :P deffo know how to throw a party lol!
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 17:32
Ooops haha!

If im ever up near leeds, ill give you a bell :P deffo know how to throw a party lol!

dude id look after you pal, would show u a good do put it that way :wink: :cool:
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Post by: LazyLunatic on 23 March 2009, 20:23
l8 comment i know, but just seen the rimmage!!!

phat stuff, they look the shizzle m8. :cool:

totally suit the car and have transformed it.

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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 21:15
l8 comment i know, but just seen the rimmage!!!

phat stuff, they look the shizzle m8. :cool:

totally suit the car and have transformed it.



cheers dude :wink:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 24 March 2009, 16:53
colour is House of Kolour SILVER over black which give this great grey colour, iv got added sparkle in their too but pics dont show it, its a 4 stage paint set up

centre caps were fully refurbed by myself, fully mirror polished with hand painted porsche crest which i had to carefully remove, not easy at all to do the caps, around 2 hours each and i have 8

Added sparkle, eh?

Peter approves:

(http://k43.pbase.com/g6/02/726802/2/75938442.p3FN33ao.jpg)

He's saddened about the dire state of your english though:

(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/nov2008/7/0/D7EE9272-D04E-0E73-EC4B9CD75BD3C63C.jpg)

To me, it looks like you're homophonic.  I've heard this will upset Peter a lot.  To stay on the right side of your Dad, (or is he your uncle?) this page will help you out. (http://www.spelling.hemscott.net/homophones1.htm)

Your painting skills on those badges are good.  Soon you'll be up to painting proper World of Warcraft figures - should open a whole new, higher social echelon to you.
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Post by: Khare on 24 March 2009, 16:54
Your painting skills on those badges are good.  Soon you'll be up to painting proper World of Warcraft figures - should open a whole new, higher social echelon to you.

PMSL!!!!!!!
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Post by: Neaty on 24 March 2009, 16:55
good work, car looks great and I can't believe you had the patients to repaint the badges. :afro:
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Post by: kells on 24 March 2009, 17:11
Thomas, i bet sharpie is saddened about the dire state of your ass hole but i dont go on about it on your sh!tty post about your bag of sh!te car do i...

keep your bull sh!te in the non sense section not in my thread which is about my car, not your weird crap...

strange as f**k all that you have written above anyway..infact it looks so desperate it makes you look even more of a tit than what u already are...its sheer lunacy i dont know why you dont just stop...

now jog on u bent cu n t :kiss:
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Post by: Mikester on 04 November 2009, 21:50
thought i best bump this thread with some dumpy 8v in it...haha
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Post by: Adam on 05 November 2009, 02:50
thought i best bump this thread with some dumpy 8v in it...haha

Do get a big head now before you have the VR6-T working okay.
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Post by: Mikester on 05 November 2009, 09:56
Humour.

Get one.
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Post by: Len on 05 November 2009, 10:05
Play nice boys as kells may leave again!  :wink:
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Post by: Adam on 05 November 2009, 11:08
Quote from: Mikester link=topic=79957.javascript:void(0);msg1206516#msg1206516 date=1257414989
Humour.

Get one.

Likewise  :rolleyes:
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Post by: kells on 05 November 2009, 11:20
hahahahaha  dumpy 8v haha


nearly as bad as a lardy slow ass VR lump   :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:


Just u wait till i find a decent BAM  wa ha ha ha ha   :cool: :cool: :cool:


I Love This mk3, its like a tank hahahaha never breaks down  :smiley:
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Post by: Mikester on 05 November 2009, 12:35
I Love This mk3, its like a tank hahahaha never breaks down  :smiley:


true dat. 8v ftw
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Post by: kells on 05 November 2009, 12:51
hahah they are tho,they can take punishment..


You watch,ill do engine swap and it will break all the time
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Post by: kells on 05 November 2009, 17:07

May aswell add these pics from the thread in nonsense chat,

will get more updated pics taken soon as the weather improves :)

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5892/pic1z.jpg) (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/pic1z.jpg/)

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4558/pic3n.jpg) (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/pic3n.jpg/)

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6016/pic2j.jpg) (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/pic2j.jpg/)
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Post by: MooZ on 05 November 2009, 17:16
Those wheels really do look lovely, perfect colour & nice stretch on the tyres... but I bet your biggest enemy (maybe even bigger than DH and Sharpie) is now CURBS    :tongue::laugh:
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Post by: kells on 05 November 2009, 17:31
cheers

and yes a large cap is always left haha  :)
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Post by: dubsport on 07 November 2009, 11:14
mk3 is looking fooooooooking sweet kells  :cool:
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Post by: kells on 07 November 2009, 16:56
cheerz dude :cool:
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Post by: Toby on 07 November 2009, 17:04
Hot Hot Hot !!  :evil: (signd photo?)
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Post by: kells on 07 November 2009, 19:13
Hot Hot Hot !!  :evil: (signd photo?)


Hahaha  yo dude  :cool: :grin:
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Post by: davero on 08 November 2009, 00:07
Kells, good to see you back, car looks great, i have been away nearly as long as you, hate the haters.
We all love vw's for a different reason. Respect to all, no matter what their taste!
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Post by: kells on 03 December 2009, 20:50

Today i bought this plate for the golf
just gotta wait for the cert to arrive so i can transfer it to the car, ordered the plates and here is what they will look like, slightly shorter than standard but still legal so im told....but who cares haha   :cool:

(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7669/f17bad.jpg) (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/f17bad.jpg/)



(http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/1036/f17badr.jpg) (http://img686.imageshack.us/i/f17badr.jpg/)
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Post by: JC on 03 December 2009, 20:55
that must have cost  :shocked:
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Post by: Len on 03 December 2009, 20:56
Top dj so he got plenty money! :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 03 December 2009, 20:58
only cost around £650 ish   :lipsrsealed:  but i loved it and had to have it...
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Post by: JC on 03 December 2009, 20:58
did u buy direct from DVLA ?  :huh:
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Post by: shepgti on 03 December 2009, 21:00
please say you didnt pay £650 just bescause it spells bad? :shocked:
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Post by: kells on 03 December 2009, 21:01
yes was cheepest place, tried all over, saw it listed cheeper but then it was plut VAt and the transfer fee so it was getting very EXP! DVLA was by far cheepest i could find it,
wanted F and wanted to have a 7 in thier and it had to read BAD
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Post by: kells on 03 December 2009, 21:03
please say you didnt pay £650 just bescause it spells bad? :shocked:


yeap, thats the one i wanted, no point going half cock is their  :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: Wayne on 03 December 2009, 21:04
 :shocked:  :shocked:  :rolleyes:
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Post by: kells on 03 December 2009, 21:05
:shocked:  :shocked:  :rolleyes:


????
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: shepgti on 03 December 2009, 21:06
not think wanting 'bad' on a plate is a little well childish? :undecided:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 03 December 2009, 21:07
im just a big kid mate  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: Wayne on 03 December 2009, 23:56
:shocked:  :shocked:  :rolleyes:


????

Just  :shocked: that you have paid £650 for a bit of plastic.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 04 December 2009, 00:09
no i payed 23 quid for the plastic or is it acrylic??   :laugh:

the rest was for a bit of paper saying i own the reg F17 BAD, which will stay with me forever, so i kind of call it an investment... as unlike most cars, the price for the number will only increase where as a car will go the other way  :grin:

anyhow, i had a good event last week so i just decided to treat myself to it, its all good :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: shepgti on 04 December 2009, 00:17
not sure about the plate price rising but on a side note my plate cost 500 quid and i have spent in excess on 350 quid chaning it from car to car/ retention
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: Wayne on 04 December 2009, 00:21
no i payed 23 quid for the plastic or is it acrylic??   :laugh:

the rest was for a bit of paper saying i own the reg F17 BAD, which will stay with me forever, so i kind of call it an investment... as unlike most cars, the price for the number will only increase where as a car will go the other way  :grin:

anyhow, i had a good event last week so i just decided to treat myself to it, its all good :)

To be honest, plates only go up in value if they mean something or are really nice, I still have 2 but never keep a car longer enough to put it on plus as Shep said it is the cost of changing it over from car to car.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 04 December 2009, 00:23
not sure about the plate price rising but on a side note my plate cost 500 quid and i have spent in excess on 350 quid chaning it from car to car/ retention

should have picked a plate with a word then you will see a increase in price,

+

dont change your car so much haha, i wont be, and i aint even arsed, as to be honest its not really about money for me, got it coz I like it and I wanted it  :grin:

No point getting one at all if its not what you really want, or at least thats the basis i work on things anyhow, we are all different, im well happy with it so its great for me  :cool:


Anyhow...
im still waiting to see a happy/positive post/reply from you shep coz all i see is negativity ALL THE TIME  hahaha :laugh: :laugh:  come on man lets see a smile :evil: :kiss:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 04 December 2009, 00:25
no i payed 23 quid for the plastic or is it acrylic??   :laugh:

the rest was for a bit of paper saying i own the reg F17 BAD, which will stay with me forever, so i kind of call it an investment... as unlike most cars, the price for the number will only increase where as a car will go the other way  :grin:

anyhow, i had a good event last week so i just decided to treat myself to it, its all good :)

To be honest, plates only go up in value if they mean something or are really nice, I still have 2 but never keep a car longer enough to put it on plus as Shep said it is the cost of changing it over from car to car.


you need to stop been so serious

any plate with a Word will go up in value, but as iv already said, its not about money to me, its staying with me....
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: shepgti on 04 December 2009, 00:35
not sure about the plate price rising but on a side note my plate cost 500 quid and i have spent in excess on 350 quid chaning it from car to car/ retention

should have picked a plate with a word then you will see a increase in price,

+

dont change your car so much haha, i wont be, and i aint even arsed, as to be honest its not really about money for me, got it coz I like it and I wanted it  :grin:

No point getting one at all if its not what you really want, or at least thats the basis i work on things anyhow, we are all different, im well happy with it so its great for me  :cool:


Anyhow...
im still waiting to see a happy/positive post/reply from you shep coz all i see is negativity ALL THE TIME  hahaha :laugh: :laugh:  come on man lets see a smile :evil: :kiss:

haha im in a very negative place right now! :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 04 December 2009, 08:41
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

on a friendly tip:-

hope nothin too serious buddy :undecided:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: Len on 04 December 2009, 09:23
 
    FIT BAD

would be better as BAD FIT   :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 04 December 2009, 09:36
im guessing you wont like my new sig  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 04 December 2009, 09:38

    FIT BAD

would be better as BAD FIT   :grin:


my GF just said the F17 looks like FIT too ha

lol @ veedubgti16v..  all i need now is a BMW   :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: irish201 on 04 December 2009, 13:27
Nice car that. You cant beat a good set of Porsche Rims. And as always a good set of rims make the car!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 24 December 2009, 17:33
was almost beaten by the snow today, really bad here, had to travel from halifax to leeds this morning at 7am, was so deep my front end was like a snow plow and getting up my street was a nightmare, idiots parking on a very narrow street, up hill with sh!te summer rubber (i hate yoko S - Drives) i almost hit the parked cars, even my neighbour in his 4x4 didnt wanna risk it hahahaha (loosers  :grin:)

got my new number plate on the car tho, will get more pics once its cleaned etc :)

if this weather continues im putting my GTI rims back on till things improve

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1043/snowi.jpg) (http://img109.imageshack.us/i/snowi.jpg/)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: Wayne on 24 December 2009, 19:41
Plate looks good but I am sure cut down plates are illegal.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 25 December 2009, 13:08
Cheers wayne, ill get more pics once its cleaned etc

oh and its legal, you just have to have at least 11mm round the edge of the letters, and the spacing has to be a set amount too, which mine is, the plates have carbon lettering tho which im guessing is prob not legal but they are the correct size and font, had the traffic police behind me yesterday and no dramas   :angry:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: crazyjas on 25 December 2009, 14:05
i know they are porche rims but what are they called, they are sweet and look cool :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Adam on 25 December 2009, 14:07
i know they are porche rims but what are they called, they are sweet and look cool :smiley:

They would be D90s, nice tidy wheel.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: crazyjas on 25 December 2009, 14:10
cheers adam, i bet i nead to re-mortgage to buy a set of those
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Adam on 25 December 2009, 14:45
cheers adam, i bet i nead to re-mortgage to buy a set of those

They pop up on eBay sometimes. 400-500 for a mint set.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 25 December 2009, 15:09
got about 1000 in my wheels, i had to buy 2 sets as i wanted the 8" all round, then i had a expensive refurb on them, polished the centre caps myself and hand painted the metal porche badges, which were quite hard to remove from the caps, the metal caps cost a fortune at the dealer (about £150) but they go on the bay for about 40 to 50 quid a set, although usually tatty..  iv got a spare set polished up just like the ones on my car but im hanging on to them.

the adapters to make them fit are quite expensive too so bear that in mind (about 250 quid for good ones)

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 17:32
Had to give the car a clean today, even though it will be dirty soon as i drive it on these roads as they are at the mo, but i hit a black bird this morning on the way home from the club at around 7am :sick:, poor thing didnt do any damage to the car apart from a bunch of feathers in the engine bay, but the little fella was wedged in my bumber (along the bottom between the fins) so i had to remove him and pop the corpse in the bin

pics below, not the best as they were taken on my phone
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 17:32

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5113/64054293.jpg) (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/64054293.jpg/)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7778/43676800.jpg) (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/43676800.jpg/)

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1887/56637635.jpg) (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/56637635.jpg/)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/40/85396139.jpg) (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/85396139.jpg/)

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9294/72838302.jpg) (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/72838302.jpg/)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/128/87760398.jpg) (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/87760398.jpg/)

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2562/35108130.jpg) (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/35108130.jpg/)

(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3989/99514034.jpg) (http://img85.imageshack.us/i/99514034.jpg/)

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Wayne on 27 December 2009, 21:27
Love it, very nice.  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 21:42
cheers dude   :wink:


next job is to get the outer rim of the wheels polished :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: JC on 27 December 2009, 21:42
so needs some Silver VW rimmage  :lipsrsealed:

but the rest looks the mutz :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 21:44
so needs some Silver VW rimmage  :lipsrsealed:

but the rest looks the mutz :afro:

whats silver vw rimmage dude??

examples too??
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 December 2009, 21:47
Loving those pictures my man, I know I didn't take too kindly to the wheels but seriously, looks immense :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: JC on 27 December 2009, 21:48
(http://www.potn.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/teddywheels.jpg)


 :laugh: :kiss:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 21:51
Loving those pictures my man, I know I didn't take too kindly to the wheels but seriously, looks immense :)

aww cheers matey, nice of you to say  :wink:

chuff, think ill have to get myself a set of those for the beast haha  :)


on a serious tip, my rims are my fave bit, i lurrrve them so much, i know theirs a few folk out their who are not into porker rims but these just do it for me on this car  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Andy-H on 27 December 2009, 21:51
cheers dude   :wink:


next job is to get the outer rim of the wheels polished :)

Those wheels look Mint as they are buddy. Are you going to re-laquer over the polishing when you do it or just protect them??
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 21:57
cheers dude   :wink:


next job is to get the outer rim of the wheels polished :)

Those wheels look Mint as they are buddy. Are you going to re-laquer over the polishing when you do it or just protect them??

they do look mint as they are yes, im just thinking a polished lip is better for me as they are exposed, so far so good and no damage but the rims stick out alot which looks cool, but its also possible they will pic up stone chips (had this on previous rims) and if i have a polished lip i can just re polish myself easy, same if they suffor the dreaded curb (prob wont as im ultra carefull)

its just this car is a daily driver, used every day com,e rain or shine...  the lip would be bare with no laquer as this way its easier to keep up to them, if the laquer goes then the rim gets fooked quick stylee..

also a polished lip will match the polished centre caps, again these are bare polished non laquerd, i treat them every week cwith jetseal and wax :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 December 2009, 22:00
As I said man, seriousy am loving it, the colour and everything. I'm sporting HIDs now too  :lipsrsealed: gonna change the inner lamps bulbs to white though.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Andy-H on 27 December 2009, 22:01
cheers dude   :wink:


next job is to get the outer rim of the wheels polished :)

Those wheels look Mint as they are buddy. Are you going to re-laquer over the polishing when you do it or just protect them??

they do look mint as they are yes, im just thinking a polished lip is better for me as they are exposed, so far so good and no damage but the rims stick out alot which looks cool, but its also possible they will pic up stone chips (had this on previous rims) and if i have a polished lip i can just re polish myself easy, same if they suffor the dreaded curb (prob wont as im ultra carefull)

its just this car is a daily driver, used every day com,e rain or shine...  the lip would be bare with no laquer as this way its easier to keep up to them, if the laquer goes then the rim gets fooked quick stylee..

also a polished lip will match the polished centre caps, again these are bare polished non laquerd, i treat them every week cwith jetseal and wax :)



Cunning plan  :wink:

I'm having mine refurbed soon and as mine is a daily I get what you mean about the day to day fatigue  :sad:

Nice to get other peoples ideas of how to deal with the issues  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 22:02
As I said man, seriousy am loving it, the colour and everything. I'm sporting HIDs now too  :lipsrsealed: gonna change the inner lamps bulbs to white though.


cheers mate :cool:

hids in the hellas are soooo good aint they..i could not be with out them now

i was gonna change the inner sidelights to leds, but i was worried it might be chavvy??  what does everyone think????   was trying to keep a oem feel as my mk 4 has factory hids and sidelights like wats in my mk 3
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 22:04

Cunning plan  :wink:

I'm having mine refurbed soon and as mine is a daily I get what you mean about the day to day fatigue  :sad:

Nice to get other peoples ideas of how to deal with the issues  :wink:

aslong as you keep up to it, polishing is good, wouldnt want the full wheel doing but the rim is just ideal :) and looks cool as fook i think
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 December 2009, 22:08
As I said man, seriousy am loving it, the colour and everything. I'm sporting HIDs now too  :lipsrsealed: gonna change the inner lamps bulbs to white though.


cheers mate :cool:

hids in the hellas are soooo good aint they..i could not be with out them now

i was gonna change the inner sidelights to leds, but i was worried it might be chavvy??  what does everyone think????   was trying to keep a oem feel as my mk 4 has factory hids and sidelights like wats in my mk 3

I dunno how I was without them now either haha, very very much improved, no problems with beam either which is all good. I was thinking LED bulbs too but I spoke to Adam and he said they cause mist up inside or something which didn't sound good. I don't think it would be chavvy, but would rather bulbs instead to keep the main focus on the HIDs.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Andy-H on 27 December 2009, 22:11

aslong as you keep up to it, polishing is good, wouldnt want the full wheel doing but the rim is just ideal :) and looks cool as fook i think
Yeah, just been thinking about mine.......

Yours have a nice line to run the polishing to but mine would have to be polished too far in to look anything like  :sad:

Might have to go full colour and risk it for now  :sad:

I do have a mate who works in the vinyl graphic business that says he can sort me with some clear vinyl stretched over the lips to protect them a little so I'll have to go for that me thinks for now.

Do these HID's generate much heat etc.?? The Corrado lights are absolutely pants so looking at ways to improve them.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 22:13
dont forget im runnig stretched rubber so my  outer rim is very exposed, you will prob be fine with full painted rims

HIDs are fantastic, not sure if they generate more heat, i had mine for over 2 year tho and love them, i know shady will be loving his too

might try the leds in the side lights, just not sure ?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 December 2009, 22:17
Oh yeah, defo loving mine. Almost like daylight lol. Look the shiz too! Heat isn't an issue I dont think, besides they is awesome lol!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 27 December 2009, 22:20
Try it see what you like.

This car is amazing. As Shady was saying I didn't really like the wheels reading through the thread (yes I read it all, does that make me sad? :grin:) and I first thought the older rims looked way better but they've really, really grown on me and your car's pretty damn perfect! :cool:

I quite like the sidelights now, different, contrast etc. I think you should try orange and white. :grin: Actual orange bulbs though, they look cool and are legal.

Try all different kinds mate see what you like best!

Real inspiration dude and this car looks far better to me then all these cars with thousands spent on body work, smooth bumpers and all that, although I like the plate recess removed.

Simple, you've changed wheels, and headlights, rest is OEM (I know you've got parts from other MK3's) but the OEM look is looking absolutely fantastic. :cool:


Oh and HID's run cooler then halogen, I've taken mine out though. Illegal and all that. :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 December 2009, 22:23
Just seen your sig Matty, lmfao! Defo agree about the wheels growing on you, I still wouldn't do it myself because I'm a BBS whore but still would say no to this :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 27 December 2009, 22:28
Just seen your sig Matty, lmfao! Defo agree about the wheels growing on you, I still wouldn't do it myself because I'm a BBS whore but still would say no to this :)

I like variety in wheels. Might get some OEM BBS for mine and some coilovers but might sell it and either buy a MK2 GTi but cars like these are making me love MK3's again. :cool: Newer more practical and all that.


Yes my cock is bigger then yours. :tongue:

Jibe and Mr Nosh on the forum. :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 22:29
CHEERS Matty  :wink:

nail on head regarding the  reference to cars with ££££ spend on bodywork and daft mods

i like the mk 3 as it is standard so just wanted to build on that ever so slightly, i spend alot of time keeping this car looking good, and it shows, if i could only somehow show you lot just how much attention it gets when im out in it, i mean from standard joe public too who aint into cars, it gets alot of respect.

its my fave golf iv ever had, most people get carried away with mods and forget why they bought it in the first place, less is more when it comes to modifying a golf in my opinion, especially with the mk 3...

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 22:31
oh and shady you already know i like the bbs type, and yours are prob the best iv seen on here, not as much a fan of the annie rims, id prefere yours to them :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 December 2009, 22:40
oh and shady you already know i like the bbs type, and yours are prob the best iv seen on here, not as much a fan of the annie rims, id prefere yours to them :cool:

Cheers pal :) I'm gonna get some pics up with the lights soon :) and yeah RXs are much better than RXIIs haha! I'm just a BBS whore, love the OEM look, mines highly based on yours as you know Kells, especially the rear lights :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 27 December 2009, 22:41
CHEERS Matty  :wink:

nail on head regarding the  reference to cars with ££££ spend on bodywork and daft mods

i like the mk 3 as it is standard so just wanted to build on that ever so slightly, i spend alot of time keeping this car looking good, and it shows, if i could only somehow show you lot just how much attention it gets when im out in it, i mean from standard joe public too who aint into cars, it gets alot of respect.

its my fave golf iv ever had, most people get carried away with mods and forget why they bought it in the first place, less is more when it comes to modifying a golf in my opinion, especially with the mk 3...



Yeah, I like all the Golf's for the Golf's. I quite like the MK3's shape, and I think you've personallised it just enough. :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 22:45
yes mate, its why i got one, i liked how they do as standard, just needed a little twist here and their

im after a recaro trim for it and still considering the BAM engine, seems a shame tho to rip out this engine, its clean as hell now iv spent hours on it and never let me down....
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 28 December 2009, 00:05
Meh I suppose as long as Mr BAM will be as reliable for you, why not?

I suppose it will be a fair bit of work, but it will be a great sleeper(ish) especially to the Dub Scene who just think a MK3 Golf. :grin:

Cause we all have to admit apart from the VR6 they are one of the slower Golf range.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 28 December 2009, 00:11
VR's aint all that either, i just dont think in standard form the engine is powerfull enough for the size of it/cost of running,  good on the motorway mind, but handle like a sofa  :grin:

it would be good to have the bam in it tho, as you say, just to raise a few eye brows hahaha :grin:
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Post by: Matty-MK3 on 28 December 2009, 00:41
Yeah. The GTi's aren't slow and I still think they'll surprise some drivers but the BAM. :drool:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 28 December 2009, 20:15
Who'd a thought this thread could degenerate any more, then Shady pops up declaring he's fitted illegal w*nker HIDs too. Tw*t.

New number plate = 1,000,000% more gay than before and it was pretty bent to start with.
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Post by: kells on 28 December 2009, 22:02
its a good job nobody gives a flying fook what a clueless cnunt like you thinks then aint it  :grin:

please keep out of my post, you have attempted to ruin it once before, so please leave it at that, i dont go on your thread and leave pointless comments about your pile of crap do i  :rolleyes:


i suggest you go get a shag and let of some of this stress.. its no good for you been such a negative old fart....

we all know you dont like me and dont like mk 3's  (apart from lazys which is bizzare), be interesting to see how you would manage to slag my car off if it was a mk 2, but im sure you would find a way...

now jog on...
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Post by: JC on 28 December 2009, 22:04
open forum kells,  positive and negative comments and all that.  :lipsrsealed:


still dont like the wheels  :grin:
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Post by: kells on 28 December 2009, 22:18
we both know his pathetic comments are aimed at me on a personal level, prefere not to have that on this thread really matey

fair play abut the wheels, i dont like yours either  :grin:, cant all like the same thing can we, if we did this would be a boring world we are living in, for every person that dont like them, their is about 100 that do  :wink:
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Post by: Matty-MK3 on 28 December 2009, 22:36
Halfords sell Carbon effect font on plates.

Must be legal as it comes with BS numbers.
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Post by: kells on 29 December 2009, 11:46
yeap, the plates are all legal, lettering and spacing and the size of the plate   :smiley:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 29 December 2009, 12:36
please keep out of my post,

Don't worry Kells, I'll keep right out of your post - I'd never interfere with another man's mail.

i dont go on your thread and leave pointless comments about your pile of crap do i

You crack on, if you want to.  I should hate to think you were holding back on me.  It might lead to pent-up aggression, bitterness and temper tantrums, along with storming off the forum for months on your part.

The thing is that it's not that I don't like you.

I do pity you from time to time.  Surely there is a village out there with a vacant post which you could fill?

It's not even that I don't like Golf3s that much.

Admittedly it'd be a cold day in hell before I bought one I wasn't going to rip the engine and gearbox out of and toss the rest away. 

LL is actually doing something interesting with his.  Something that has technical merit, he's learning a lot and his car is being developed into something interesting.  Oh and I definitely like Paul86S2's 16V track car and Ian Howell's track VR6.  Your attempts are just lame though.  All you've done with yours is proved to World of Warcraft figure painters that they have a transferable skill - they too could paint a Porsche shield as well as you have, I'm sure.  I'd be just as rude about your car if it was a preened Golf2 with a donkey under the bonnet.

My biggest issues with you and this barge are two-fold:

1. I don't like your illegal headlights and I don't like your promotion of them as 'a good thing' to the more impressionable members of this forum.

HID lights are illegal when not fitted in an E-marked light unit designed to have HID units fitted to them.

When fitted behind inappropriate lenses (like yours) they cause beam scatter and are likely to dazzle other motorists.

This is inconsiderate and dangerous for other road users.

2. I also really don't like your consistent and terrible mauling of the English language.  It's quite offensive to most people with a reading age of over 10 years, barely literate and terribly slovenly.

As for the new numberplate - the last person to promote themselves as 'bad' was Michael Jackson.

That ended well.

Now go out for a run, or something?
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Post by: kells on 29 December 2009, 12:39
And breathe....... :rolleyes:
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Post by: Matty-MK3 on 29 December 2009, 16:46
As for the new numberplate - the last person to promote themselves as 'bad' was Michael Jackson.

That ended well.

I'm sorry, but :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: kells on 06 February 2010, 14:59
not much to report back on as such, apart from a couple of things in the pipeline

firstly, a trip to my mate Mj @ MJ interiors is on next week (was going to be today but i was late in from the club last nite so needed my sleep :grin:) looking to replace my interior with something a little bit more special   :cool:

And the second thing which im a little excited about is one of my friends called me last nite to give me first dibs on his audi S3 Bam engine, yeeehaaaaa, he is thinking on braking his car, hopefully this will happen as its a well looked after lump and ill have the full history with it too, plus all other bits i may need and want off the car which is perfect for me, so fingers crossed

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6040/sv202670.jpg) (http://img237.imageshack.us/i/sv202670.jpg/)
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Post by: Wayne on 06 February 2010, 17:14
That looks mean as fook from the front, as an idea why not run black badges.
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Post by: kells on 06 February 2010, 17:18
id think about it matey as i run a black one on the rear, but i like the silver VW badge on the nose for some reason, might blacken the GTI one tho? ?   really am trying to keep a factory look tho too Hmmmm  :smiley:
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 06 February 2010, 17:33
Putting a black grill badge on mine was one of the best ideas I've ever had lol
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Post by: dubsport on 06 February 2010, 17:40
i thought gti's were meant to have black badges on the front? at least the mk1 and 2 did right?  :undecided:

Looking awesome kells :afro:
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Post by: kells on 06 February 2010, 17:54
cheers dude  :cool:

they came with silver as standard matey, this car was box standard when it arrived on my driveway, so the one thats on it now is the original item, as i said before i swapped the rear for black (kept the original siver one tho too)


are you rockin a black one now then joe?
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 06 February 2010, 18:02
Black ftw :cool:

(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs131.snc3/17839_1375097256367_1199897708_1115131_1002032_n.jpg)
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Post by: DoogalDoogz on 06 February 2010, 18:06
Car looks good mate, never really seen a mk3 on the D90 wheels but they look really good, especially in that colour, suits the car very well.

I will say im not a fan of personalised plates though, but thats just me.
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Post by: kells on 06 February 2010, 18:08
cheers dude, appreciate the comment, more so after looking at your sig  :grin:

i really like the d90 rim as it has a oem feel to it :-)

Joe - looks good!
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Post by: DoogalDoogz on 06 February 2010, 18:39
Ahaha yeah forgot I had that as my sig, not the biggest fan of mk3s, or any car thats not a mk2 or mk1 golf tbh haha. Occasionally though some come along that I think, damn, looks pretty damn good. Yours is one of those cars.
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Post by: kells on 06 February 2010, 18:49
thanks alot matey  :wink:
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Post by: Toopay_MkIII_GT on 08 February 2010, 19:20
HAHA really like that sig! where u find that too?
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 February 2010, 21:29
I made it.
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 08 February 2010, 21:42
Mk1 + Mk3 = best Golfs ever made.. fact.

Mk2's, with the exception of the G60/Rallye.. were all pants. Strictly my opinion of course (I've owned 2 Mk2's before)

Although back on topic....

Kells did you get those pillar trims off Damo? And do you have any plans for the headlining? Surprised you didn't comment on mine :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: kells on 09 February 2010, 08:46
hey joe, iv not looked on yours just yet as iv been really busy with my music, gonna go have a peep in a sec :-)

got the pillars of damo yes matey, will have a full concept Recaro interior in the car soon too, but its gonna be retrimmed by MJ Interiors, door cards too  :cool:

not sure what to do re the roof liner, i might have it retrimmed in leather, mine isnt like thye later ones, my N Plate 16v had a fabric type liner which is what im guesiung your is too?  the one in this mk 3 is not fabric its hard to explain, its like vynil or something ?

 :cool:
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Post by: kells on 09 February 2010, 08:46
HAHA really like that sig! where u find that too?

iv seen a few about, some have the mk 4 missing too :laugh:
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 09 February 2010, 10:19
Oh yeah I know the type you're on about, think one of ours had the same roof lining (might have been my nans 1.4 'L')

Looking forward to seeing these seats!!
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Post by: kells on 09 February 2010, 11:49
ill try get a pic of the seats tonight as im going over their to see em :-)
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Post by: DrewGTI on 09 February 2010, 18:46
Hey kells, loving the look of your mk3!  :cool:


getting my D90's sprayed up same kinda colour. . just wondered what rubber you got on and if i didnt go with the streached look what size?

also how do the adapters work, am i gonna need more bolts?
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Post by: kells on 09 February 2010, 20:15
i run 195/45 rubber matey

go for 205/45s for less stretch mate

adapters come with all the bolts if you get the decent ones, (Fk) they just bolt on to the hub using the bolts they come with, and then the rim just fits on them as it would your normal hub, its that simple  :cool:

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Post by: DrewGTI on 09 February 2010, 21:38
yeah. . getting the FK ones  :cool: my bolts i have in my longbeachalloys be cool for theD90's then?  :smiley:


mie are 7j all round so if i went for the 195/45's will get the same look as your fronts
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Post by: kells on 09 February 2010, 22:49
i run hte bolts i had on my longbeach too

and my rims are all 8" wide mate, front and rears, wont be far off looks wise i wouldnt think tho mate
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Post by: Matty-MK3 on 09 February 2010, 23:29
Can I just mention H&R adapters are the bee's knee's but you pay for them!

FK from what I've heard aren't bad.


What's these seats then mate? Cars looking good. :cool:
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Post by: kells on 10 February 2010, 00:12
Seats are Recaros like the colour concepts, but retrimmed by Mj interiors so the quality is ALOT better, will have stitched in Recaro logo and heat embossed MJ interiors logo, still deciding exactly how i want  them to be, will have rear headrests too of course as i hate mk 3 rear seats without them :-)

not sure what to do about door cards yet as its £££££ to have them retrimmed (cheepest he can do what i would want is £275 for the 4 door cards alone haha) so may look out for some highline ones or concept ones in black, so if anyone has any get in touch.

they will have a uprated heating element in them too (CARBON FIBRE) so the loom is different, i need a OEM dash switch and then need to adapt that to fit the loom that comes with the aftermarket heating elements, it comes with stand alone switches but i wanna run OEM versions. dont think it will be a problem tbh.. had alokk at the loom today, i may get a VW loom and modify it to the aftermarket loom etc
going for this set up because they get alot warmer and dont burn out, and most important they dont burn through the material which can cause damage to the leather, MJ showed me some examples, and also told me the VW pads are prone to fail..  i trust his opinion as he has been in this game along time and is very highly regarded 

the seats wont be ready till late march i dont think tho, something to look forward to :-)

check his website: (needs updating tho as its quite old now)

http://www.mjinteriors.co.uk/
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Post by: kells on 13 February 2010, 18:38
Been over at MJ interiors today, my new interior will be ready for next weekend, so ill be taking my car over and he will be putting it in with me..  cant wait :-)

just gotta source all the bits i need to convert the rear windows to electric as i dont wanna cut the new door cards
apparently i need the dash loom with conections for the dash mounted switch which will control the rear windows, the looms are different from 1995 onwards so i need a early type one. plus early type loom for both rear doors and obviously the mechs and motors

looking forward to getting it all sorted  :cool:
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Post by: T_J_G on 13 February 2010, 18:50
Should look good mate!
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Post by: kells on 13 February 2010, 19:05
yes matey, really cant wait, cant recommend MJ enough, he is a really top guy! and very very good at what he does.


just need to get the Bam in once this little lot is all done then ill be a happy chap haha :grin:
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Post by: T_J_G on 13 February 2010, 19:07
Yeah MJ trims are top, seen them on many (show) cars.
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Post by: kells on 13 February 2010, 19:14
yeah theirs always bits for show cars in his workshop, he has done a fair few retrims for some big name footballers etc too..my retrim is not so drastic, just black italian leather... but its what i wanted  :cool:
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Post by: LazyLunatic on 13 February 2010, 19:41
i see the letters BAM written and now im interested :D are you going through with it you reckon? you getting it done professionally or giving it a go yourself?
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Post by: kells on 13 February 2010, 21:25
was thinking to do it myself at my mates garage tbh, thry do alot of conversions, that said i do want a pro finish, but seen as my mate does bodyshop stuff, we were talkin about smoothing the bay

will deffo be doing it if my mate breaks his S3, which he says he 100% is, ill have all the bits i need off his car plus all the service history :cool:
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Post by: DrewGTI on 17 February 2010, 19:51
hey kells, hows thimgs? any news on the engine?


just wondering about your centre caps? once place can they be popped out easy by some chav?
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Post by: kells on 17 February 2010, 21:21
working on the recaro interior at the mo matey, its at MJ interiors as we type :cool:

my caps are the type that cant be removed unless you do it from the rear, (like when the rim is off)  some of the metal caps have 2 holes in them, these can be removed by some little robbing tw4t, luckily mine cant

which you got??  show me a pic
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Post by: DrewGTI on 18 February 2010, 08:09
ah cool, when do you get them back?



yeah, mine are same as yours....


(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs388.snc3/23694_313159041828_574076828_3982058_8120097_n.jpg)



thats good then!  :cool:
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Post by: kells on 18 February 2010, 12:21
hope to have them ready for the weekend, or just after, cannot wait, they are looking  :cool:

caps same as mine so your safe man, those are in mint condition too, where u pick them up? i wanted mine polished so it would have been a crime to strip those  :grin: :grin:
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Post by: DrewGTI on 18 February 2010, 21:11
awesome! cant wait for pictures man!  :cool:


got hold of a brand new set for £95!! thought it was money well spent as the wheels should hold there money.  :smiley:
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Post by: kells on 18 February 2010, 21:50
yeah ill get some up soon as its in the car :)

£95 is a good price mate, they are around £45 each at the dealers :wink:

as you say, good thing about these rims and caps is, you will get back what you spent on them, same goes for a MJ interior like iv got, this is the route im on with this project. CBA loosing lots of money   :grin:
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Post by: DrewGTI on 19 February 2010, 20:50
yeah. . thats the way i'm trying to go.


tasteful mods so other prople will like and then i wont lose any money if i sell. but to be honest i think i'll just keep it!  :cool:

get it looking the way i want then a engine swap!
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Post by: kells on 19 February 2010, 21:23
so your going same route as me then :cool:
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 February 2010, 17:18
And mee :cool:

I've got it the way I want it, it just needs a respray and a faster engine :smiley:
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Post by: kells on 20 February 2010, 18:23
And mee :cool:

I've got it the way I want it, it just needs a respray and a faster engine :smiley:

yes mate, its the best way, you know the score :wink:

well i should have the new trim in the car just after the weekend, MJ is just waiting to get the stitching i want doing finishing off :-)

then its new alarm time and then hopefully my mate will be breaking the S3, which means BAM time.. hopefully...
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Post by: T_J_G on 25 February 2010, 21:06
Still no cow?
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Post by: kells on 25 February 2010, 22:05
Still no cow?


was over their last nite, almost done, SATURDAY im told  :cool:

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Post by: Toby on 25 February 2010, 22:14
cant wait to see some good progress.... its BAD :D
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Post by: kells on 25 February 2010, 22:20
BAD to the bone hahaha   :grin:

will post pics once iv got the new recaros in  :cool:
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Post by: T_J_G on 26 February 2010, 10:24
Still no cow?


was over their last nite, almost done, SATURDAY im told  :cool:



Happy days!
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Post by: Wayne on 26 February 2010, 10:57
Looking foward to the pics
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 26 February 2010, 13:21
It's not bad, it's terrible.

There's a difference.
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Post by: kells on 26 February 2010, 14:07
Even you cant BAD mouth a MJ retrimmed Recaro interior.... :evil:


 :huh: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 26 February 2010, 20:57
I'm sure we can all agree that you can't polish a turd.

This seems to be the closest thing available - effectively rolling one around in glitter.

Pick the glitter off and it's still the same thing underneath.
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Post by: kells on 26 February 2010, 21:59
ahh well, cant win em all eh   :laugh:
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Post by: Matty-MK3 on 27 February 2010, 20:54
Well..............................

?
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Post by: kells on 27 February 2010, 20:59
The recaros are in :-) and i love them

although iv yet to pick up the rear headrests as they were not ready (im having MJ logo heat stanmped on the headrests)  ill upload a sneaky pic tomo then the propper pics once rear headrests are here

one other thing that was funny was finding a bag stashed undder the carpet with lots of individually wrapped packages, turns out its crack and 2 cocaine...

this car has been a dealers car at some point, must have been when it was newer as the main bag they were stored has deteriorated, pics of it all to come, we were  :shocked: :shocked: tho!!!!
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Post by: Matty-MK3 on 27 February 2010, 21:07
:laugh:

You crack 'ed!

Looking forward to the pics though, and you were well lucky you didn't get pulled and searched, particularly in a car like yours (no offense).
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Post by: kells on 27 February 2010, 21:09
:laugh:

 you were well lucky you didn't get pulled and searched, particularly in a car like yours (no offense).

i know matey exactly what we have all said..  :shocked:
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Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 13:33

Here is a quick sneaky couple of pics of the seats, ill get propper ones once i pick up the rear headrests and the front headrests tomo, i have the front headrests in but these are getting replace with ones with the MJ Interior logos heat stamped in which is a bit like how the colour concept logos are stamped in on the Colour concepts

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8103/90947190.jpg) (http://img413.imageshack.us/i/90947190.jpg/)

(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9959/93530464.jpg) (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/93530464.jpg/)

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4290/64479844.jpg) (http://img442.imageshack.us/i/64479844.jpg/)

and a couple of pics of what we foind hidden under the front seats/ carpet, a bag Full of small deals of crack and some of cocaine :shocked:

(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1544/59310634.jpg) (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/59310634.jpg/)

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2461/77596010.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/77596010.jpg/)

(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9345/81015330.jpg) (http://img412.imageshack.us/i/81015330.jpg/)
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 28 February 2010, 13:48
Seats look awesome mate.  I'm jealous!
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Post by: warnesey333 on 28 February 2010, 13:50
dude - that is one hell of a find lmao.

Good job you never got stopped and searched!
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Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 13:52
cheers Joe, absolutly love them. never want anything but recaro again!!

and yeah was a mad find, could have been nasty. we are very shocked !!
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Post by: Mew on 28 February 2010, 14:04
Seats look good, I don't see why you'd want the MJ logo though :undecided:
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Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 14:26
Seats look good, I don't see why you'd want the MJ logo though :undecided:

i liek the logo, and he is also one of the best re trimmers out their, the logo will help keep the value of the seats high later down the line.
The logo is not big and it looks cool,  plus im good mates with MJ so im happy to advertise his business, he is such a top guy, cant stress how much he is happy to help you out, he has given me the gear gaitor and has given me a highlinbe centre consol too, plus loads of gliptone care creams etc

im really happy with the work he has done
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Post by: Andy-H on 28 February 2010, 14:33
Very nice seats those Mate.

They look really comfy, bet it smells really nice in there as well  :cool:
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Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 14:58
Very nice seats those Mate.

They look really comfy, bet it smells really nice in there as well  :cool:

was just gonna say, THE SMELL   :tongue:  luvley :evil:

makes the old gti seats feel so sh!te sitting in these. the leather is real nice quality compaired to whats in my mk 4 as standard, you can reallt tell the difference!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: shepgti on 28 February 2010, 16:02
how did you get your seats to mj? did you take them or courier them? :undecided:
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Post by: Dec on 28 February 2010, 16:30
Damn! They make my old colour concept recaro's look like poo!
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Post by: Mikester on 28 February 2010, 16:30
Are these your original cloth gti seats retrimmed?
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Post by: Wayne on 28 February 2010, 16:40
Awesome :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 16:47
Are these your original cloth gti seats retrimmed?

no mate, these are/were cloth recaros which were fooked, they now have all brand new bolsters from recaro, and are re trimmed in nappa italian leather by MJ, they also have uprated heating pads in them which are carbon fibre

shep, MJ's is only about 12 mile from me, iv known him a few years now and he has become a good friend, we fitted them at his place together yesterday.

He is always doing all the magazine cars and footballers cars etc, look in PVW mag and you will see how many show cars use MJ

you can courier stuff to him tho no problem, alot of people do
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: Toopay_MkIII_GT on 28 February 2010, 21:10
very nice seats you've got there! been looking forward to seeing wot they look like. managed to sort out getting a mk3 golf heater control switch linked to your uprated seat loom?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 21:13
very nice seats you've got there! been looking forward to seeing wot they look like. managed to sort out getting a mk3 golf heater control switch linked to your uprated seat loom?

working on it matey, got my electrician mate coming to see me friday, both the aftermarket loo where it comes out of the seats and the VAG loom wher eit would plug into the factory elements both have 4 wires but im unsure which wire goes where, might have a look tomo, but if not Friday all been well ill have it all up and running  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 28 February 2010, 21:17
I hate them, I mean come on, they aren't in my car.  :grin: :grin: :grin:


They look real nice man. Doubt many have taken the old cloth Recaros and re-trimmed before. Hope you've gotten rid of the drugs too, don't wanna get done for possession.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: T_J_G on 28 February 2010, 21:25
Seats look nice Kells!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 21:38
cheers guys  :-)

Shady they were fooked before the rebuild and re trim, all brand new cushions and side bolsters direct from recaro so they are like brand new.

originally was just gonna have them re done in the late type factory material and my rears to match.... till i started seeing the leather retrims he was doing everytime i was at his :grin:

expensive but they will hold their value and its well worth it, they look superb and have transformed my sh!te interior, iv compaired the leather to the standard leather in the mk4 and its a class above...
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 28 February 2010, 22:30
:cool:

Very, very jealous.


I mean:

I know I'd be making a loss, but for you mate, I'll do it. I'm willing to swap my beautiful, amazingly sh!te awesome beige cloth interior with your lower quality interior, I know you are trying to perfect it and well, my interior would complete your car minus engine, so I'm willing to sacrifice it. :undecided:

I'll arrange a courier yes?

Did you sniff the crack then? LOL :grin: Kiddin'.
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Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 22:36
 :grin: :grin:  cheers matty ill snap your arm off on that offer  :evil:

not touching the crack, a mate said he could sell it on as he knows someone who takes it,  and make me quite alot of cash but its going down the loo mate, dont want that on my back. iv already taken a big enough risk driving round with all this in my car, and obviously at the times of day this car is on the road its always a big chance of getting stopped for a random check..

still not sure what the other powder is, an educated guess is coke, but im not gonna try find out thats for sure!  :grin:
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Post by: Matty-MK3 on 28 February 2010, 22:38
:grin: :grin:  cheers matty ill snap your arm off on that offer  :evil:

not touching the crack, a mate said he could sell it on as he knows someone who takes it,  and make me quite alot of cash but its going down the loo mate, dont want that on my back. iv already taken a big enough risk driving round with all this in my car, and obviously at the times of day this car is on the road its always a big chance of getting stopped for a random check..

still not sure what the other powder is, an educated guess is coke, but im not gonna try find out thats for sure!  :grin:

Best decision TBF, only got to take that guy to sell it on to a mate etc. etc. one guy to rat and well there we go. Plus it's naughty naughty.

Flush it quick! :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: GOLF_STU on 28 February 2010, 22:40
ha ha snap!! i found drugs when i took my golfs centre console out  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 22:42
yep too true, its as good as gone now mate anyhow  :wink:

Stu i dont mind a bit of personal but finding a dealers haul was a bit much haha :laugh: their was loads of the stuff, saved a few for the pics, rest is long gone, whats left is going in a mo too
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: Wayne on 28 February 2010, 22:52
Was'nt the last owner a Doctor  :undecided:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 22:56
the first owner was a doctor, hence the cars original plate of L9 DOC..  i dont know whats happened since he had the car and i got the car.. and if that person registerd it, i just dunno,  its from southend on sea originally, but theirs paperwork and documents from castleford, sheffield and barnsley with the car...so its spent time their, i think the car has seen some underworld activity between me and the doc...
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: Wayne on 28 February 2010, 23:15
Sounds like it.
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Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 23:35
few things are making sense now as when i got it, their was parts of interior trim missing, and also bits round the sunroof so the roof liner could be dropped easily, the sunroof motor was also missing (stash point maybe)

this is probably when the car slipped into a bad state as the records with it showed it had been welll looked after, i could never understand how tho as it was full of dints when i got it..

im glad iv got it on private plates anyhow haha :grin:
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Post by: Adam on 02 March 2010, 16:30
the first owner was a doctor, hence the cars original plate of L9 DOC..  i dont know whats happened since he had the car and i got the car.. and if that person registerd it, i just dunno,  its from southend on sea originally, but theirs paperwork and documents from castleford, sheffield and barnsley with the car...so its spent time their, i think the car has seen some underworld activity between me and the doc...

Doctor of drugs?  :lipsrsealed: Takes someone with experience to make drugs.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS PG 31**
Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 19:59
Cleaned today, pics below




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Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 20:02

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Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS PG 31**
Post by: Wayne on 07 March 2010, 20:03
Awesome :afro:
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 07 March 2010, 20:05
Black badges dude, black badges :wink:

I'm tempted to copy your rear light mod too. I have a spare pair of rear lights.
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Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 20:09
cheers wayne. more pics added above  :cool:

gonna stick with stock badges on the front matey for now OEM stylee :cool:
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 07 March 2010, 20:10
At least try it? :cry:
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Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 20:13
i might do matey, i just dont wanna take it too far away from standard, i like the silver VW badge as it breaks it up and i wanna leave the GTI badge in place even more so when the Bam goes in  :grin: 

tbh i just like the clean GTI look, undecided on black badges :undecided:
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 07 March 2010, 20:15
Hairy muff :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 20:16
HAHAHA  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Wayne on 07 March 2010, 20:18
Black badges ftw
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Toopay_MkIII_GT on 07 March 2010, 21:35
very smart dude! looking great. i always think black is the best colour when cleaned up, then again im biased owning black cars lol. ur engine bay looks very clean aswell, u have ur rocker cover re-painted/powdercoated?
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Post by: Tease-MotorSport on 07 March 2010, 21:42
Sweeeeeeet looking Car mate....

Just read the whole Topic! Did you say how much the Re-trim was?
I read all of DH's Comments..... What a Narrow Minded DOUCHE!
Keep up the Good Work!!!!!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 21:50
thanx for the nice comments

The engine is bare metal polished by my own hands hehe

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the retrim was expensive as its nappa leather and done by MJ but his retrims start at about £850 for normal leather  :cool:
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Post by: Toopay_MkIII_GT on 07 March 2010, 21:53
blinkin heck,. bet u went thought some pads/man hours not just doin the head, but alternator etc. it a b!tch to keep clean? looks smart, stands out!
 think id like mine powder coated silver for the OE look
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 21:57
gotta keep up to it yes mate haha, its used every day this car, never meant to take it so far but just sort of happened, cant help it i always end up polishing my cars engines  :grin:

powerdercoated would be cool man
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: dom on 07 March 2010, 22:51
After just reading thru all 36 pages of this thread i've gotta say Kells, this is the nicest looking Mk3 I think i've seen! I'm so jealous  :angry: I love the OEM look.

Also just listened to your remix of Baby Girl as well....sick!  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 23:08
After just reading thru all 36 pages of this thread i've gotta say Kells, this is the nicest looking Mk3 I think i've seen! I'm so jealous  :angry: I love the OEM look.

Also just listened to your remix of Baby Girl as well....sick!  :grin:

ahh cheers matey thats nice of you to say  :wink:

Baby girl is really really big in the club i play, glad you liked it, i enjoyed making it  :cool:
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Post by: mumbles on 07 March 2010, 23:35
Looking sweet Kells, loving the look of it right now. I think you should keep the front badge silver, as you say helps break up the front a bit and it really stands out. Propper impressed with the engine, trying to get through the years of crap on mine is a nightmare, getting there though! :afro:

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 07 March 2010, 23:37
Feeling this car TBH.

Much prefer it to all this "show scene" tat.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 23:40
thanks alot for compliments guys, really great to hear nice words on the car, i give it alot of my time trying to keep it looking fresh. put some pics on ed38 thinking it would be too OE for them but they really like it too :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: DubSociety on 10 March 2010, 08:32
RATED. Especially due to the fact its your daily ... what a stunner!

The summer days are really gonna show your motor off --- can't wait to get working on mine aswell when the holidays kick in.

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 09:01
cheers dude  :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 10 March 2010, 09:05
I love it kells, looks absolutely mint :cool:

but can i ask why have you got shorter plates?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 09:50
because the number is shorter and i dont like alot of blank plate if that makes sense, its still legal, you need to have at least 11mm round the edge of your lettering and iv more than that

plus i just prefere the look of it, looks a bit more mean :laugh: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 10 March 2010, 10:05
because the number is shorter and i dont like alot of blank plate if that makes sense, its still legal, you need to have at least 11mm round the edge of your lettering and iv more than that

plus i just prefere the look of it, looks a bit more mean :laugh: :cool:

fair enough bud.

btw, i need to sit in your seats, cause you just cant tell how good they are by looking at them! you got the heating elements wired in with the switches, etc yet?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 10:18
got all the heated elements working via a switch they came with which iv hidden as iv just put in the OEM loom, and dash switch, iv converted that to red illumination and its lit up, my electrician mate is coming friday this week or next to get the 2 loomes fused together so its working via the OEM switch :cool:

they get toasty warm tho its ace haha, and the seats are just soooo fookin good to sit in, these are like new as they have all brand new genuine Recaro bolsters and cusionings fitted. MJ is awesome, i get my rear headrests back this saturday too  :cool:


i just want the engine in the car now, then im just about happy
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 10 March 2010, 10:49
good sh!t :cool:

sounds right bud, a nice looking mint bay with a BAM sitting in the middle, and i'd say its done :afro:

Then mine would be the ghetto version of yours :D
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 11:01
 :grin: :grin: im liking that  :wink:

gonna go for a oem look in the bay i think.... just waiting on my mate with the S3, he just lost his job so hopefully this will speed him up  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 10 March 2010, 11:14
:grin: :grin: im liking that  :wink:

gonna go for a oem look in the bay i think.... just waiting on my mate with the S3, he just lost his job so hopefully this will speed him up  :laugh:

sounds good :afro:

What you doing about management and your clocks/dash, etc?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 11:22
at the moment (could change)  im going for full S3 set up, clocks loom, ecu etc, then a superchips remap and id be happy with that

my close firend owns his own turbo company so he is going to refurb and hybrid the turbo for cost price no labour so thats a bonus. Obviously will run a FMI behind the bumper painte dblack so its not noticable and will prob rock black silicone hoses so from the outside it looks like a normal GTI
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 10 March 2010, 12:35
at the moment (could change)  im going for full S3 set up, clocks loom, ecu etc, then a superchips remap and id be happy with that

my close firend owns his own turbo company so he is going to refurb and hybrid the turbo for cost price no labour so thats a bonus. Obviously will run a FMI behind the bumper painte dblack so its not noticable and will prob rock black silicone hoses so from the outside it looks like a normal GTI

OK, sounds good. Where you getting it done? I take it your going to make the engine look OEM too, with the cover, etc?

... and k04 hybrid :shocked: so you should be looking at 300+bhp

will we see a Quaife product find its way into your gearbox? oh and 02a or the s3 6 speed?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 13:52
not sure where to get it done, my mate say he can do it at his garage, they do alot of conversions, but i dunno if to go somewhere who has a rep for it then the car will be worth ££££££  if that makes sense

MJ who did my seats has connections with everyone and has sais he will speak to people for me, also he thinks i should rock the S3 box 6 speed.
i was originally gonna go with the 02A

OEM i think so with the cover etc, but you know me their may be polished metals their too, but they are hard to keep clean, whatever i do the car will be kept usable so it will be easy to sell on...  too many cars are too faffy which makes them un usable on a day to day basis

and yeah the turbo should help with power  :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: VR6-Joe on 10 March 2010, 14:00
You work at Tesco but are you gonna scan doe :huh:?


LOVE this. Swap me your seats for a Cadburys creme egg :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 14:14
who works at tesco?? get me one of the choc bunny things hahah

And make it 2 eggs and its a deal joe  :tongue: :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: VR6-Joe on 10 March 2010, 14:47
Done deal!!

Haha foooook knows, saw that on facebook and it made me laugh
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 14:53
 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 10 March 2010, 14:56
defo the 6 speed box if its being done elsewhere.

What places are up near you that would do it? Awesome gti are over in manchester.... cant think off any other places i've read in the mags that are up near you.

The phirm, but they are in hampshire...
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 16:04
i cant remember the name of this guy MJ told me to use.. im gonna ask him on Saturday when i see him, MJ is the guy that did my seats as i say he has alot of contacts seen as he does all the mag cars etc. ill have to see/think about it. im guessing it wont be cheep to have it done.. well not as cheep as doing at my mates garage :undecided:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 11 March 2010, 12:12
finally pulled my finger out and got myself some WINTER centre caps for my D90's even tho we are almost out of winter :grin: :rolleyes:  its been a pain having to keep polishing and sealing my polished metal caps. I do have 2 sets of polished caps i refurbed but i want to keep one set of those stashed well away

anyhow, got some black ones with metal colour crests as i thought they look good with the black paint, will run these till theirs no more grit on the roads

just finished re polishing my metal caps so they are ready to go back on  :cool:

pic of the black caps on the car (wheels are dirty)

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6302/image033r.jpg) (http://img251.imageshack.us/i/image033r.jpg/)



and one of my cherished polished caps  :grin:

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/761/capswd.jpg) (http://img517.imageshack.us/i/capswd.jpg/)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Dmonday on 11 March 2010, 12:16
that re-trim looks awsome :laugh: and im liking the centre caps!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: DrewGTI on 18 March 2010, 15:21
Some the same as your interior redone by MJ
on eBay for £900 buy it now!!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 18 March 2010, 16:04
those not nappa leather either haha, he isnt cheep but he is fantastic at what he does
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 19 March 2010, 11:04
my friend with the S3 came to see me this morning, says he is breaking the car in around a month. struck a deal on the engine, Gearbox, ECU, Clocks, Full looms, Front Breaks and anything else i need for the conversion all for 450 quid!  im well happy with that, its a 2001 bam engine with full audi history and 80k on the clock

just playing the waiting game now :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 19 March 2010, 11:08
my friend with the S3 came to see me this morning, says he is breaking the car in around a month. struck a deal on the engine, Gearbox, ECU, Clocks, Full looms, Front Breaks and anything else i need for the conversion all for 450 quid!  im well happy with that, its a 2001 bam engine with full audi history and 80k on the clock

just playing the waiting game now :cool:

you lucky *uck!

:D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 19 March 2010, 11:17
 :grin: :grin:

i know, bit of a bargain aint it, well pleased.

mate is gonna rebuild and hybrid the turbo too, engine is MINT too, looks like new and all the covers are present not broken
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 19 March 2010, 11:27
:grin: :grin:

i know, bit of a bargain aint it, well pleased.

mate is gonna rebuild and hybrid the turbo too, engine is MINT too, looks like new and all the covers are present not broken

schweet!

you going to strip it and paint it? or polish it up like you do everything! :D

i really wish i had stripped mine and painted it before it went in :(
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Wayne on 19 March 2010, 11:29
my friend with the S3 came to see me this morning, says he is breaking the car in around a month. struck a deal on the engine, Gearbox, ECU, Clocks, Full looms, Front Breaks and anything else i need for the conversion all for 450 quid!  im well happy with that, its a 2001 bam engine with full audi history and 80k on the clock

just playing the waiting game now :cool:

Bargain :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 19 March 2010, 11:41
you know me, i cant help but cleaning stuff so ill be messing with it before it goes in the car yeah :grin: i think i need to with how my car is, you pull it off well as you got the whole rat look thing going on but mines like the oppersite to that.

im in no rush to fit it so i mite even have the engine re built
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Rhyso on 19 March 2010, 11:43
thats fecking silly cheap!!  :shocked: :shocked:

What's wrong with the S3 if its only got 80K on the clock  :undecided:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Dec on 19 March 2010, 11:57
I like the S3 news :cool:

How does it work with only using it front wheel drive as I thought that even older S3's were Quattro? :embarassed: Im an idiot so probably wrong!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Rhyso on 19 March 2010, 12:01
I like the S3 news :cool:

How does it work with only using it front wheel drive as I thought that even older S3's were Quattro? :embarassed: Im an idiot so probably wrong!

just block off the rear prop shaft port i would have thought or something along those lines
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 19 March 2010, 12:32
the S3 has been damaged on the rear, he has claimed on the insurance and bought the car back, its such a easy repair it seems a shame not to put it back on the road

it has also got a mint fullblack Recaro leather interior which will be up for grabs

plus just about everything else and all parts to repair the car..  he is after the newer shape S3 hence the sale of the car in bits, all money he makes plus the insurance payout will be going towards new car

he is after quick sale on everything, car was pretty much mint
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 19 March 2010, 12:34
Dec you should buy all the panels off him and have them weled onto yours as the S3 were wider  :cool: not sure if its same model type as yours tho, his is a 2001
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Dec on 21 March 2010, 02:34
Dec you should buy all the panels off him and have them weled onto yours as the S3 were wider  :cool: not sure if its same model type as yours tho, his is a 2001

Unfortunately thats the older shape kells or I would have had a load of bits! The new shape S3's were brought out in 06 I think. Would have snapped the whole front end up :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 16:06
finally got my rear doors converted to electric - was a pain in the ass finding the parts to do the job, massive thanx to doug over on club GTI  :cool:

basically early spec cars like mine run a different wiring loom to the later cars, and to fit rear electric windows you have to replace the full electrical wiring loom!!! this runs from the fuse box to both A pillars, then it runs down both sides of the car to the B pillars and on the drivers side right up to the central locking pump. At the fuse box which is a nightmare in its self i had to trace all the wires unplug them and then repace with my new loom  THIS WAS A RIGHT FOOKIN JOB and took some pissing about.

i managed to get the new loom inplace in the exact location as the original loom, for the factory finish, to do this most the dash was out as were all the side panels and kick plates plus all boot lining

i also had to replace the door looms with the looms out of a car which had electrics (again this lot had to be out of a early spec car as the conectors changed on later cars

I also had to get some electric window regulators and all the switched (plus convert them to red illumination to match all my others)

got it all back together and everything worked as it should BONUS :laugh:


Here is the looms i had to remove, no pic of the new one but it was a combination loom and not all sepertate like this lot!! some of the plugs were a different colour which caused some issues but i managed to work out what was what

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6820/sv202818.jpg) (http://img140.imageshack.us/i/sv202818.jpg/)


a few pics of the rear seats now i got the rear headrests in

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8190/sv202812.jpg) (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/sv202812.jpg/)

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/15/sv202814.jpg) (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/sv202814.jpg/)

(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/2084/sv202815.jpg) (http://img535.imageshack.us/i/sv202815.jpg/)

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9817/sv202816.jpg) (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/sv202816.jpg/)

(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8135/sv202820.jpg) (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/sv202820.jpg/)
 




Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Wayne on 20 April 2010, 16:11
Looks awesome :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 16:13
thanx matey  :wink:

really pleased with it all,

next job is new rubber and MOT time
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Toopay_MkIII_GT on 20 April 2010, 18:25
wondered if you got round to this job. herd ot wud be a full loom jobbie. well done mate, bet ur chuffed
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 18:44
yes matey very happy, ill be honest their was a moment i did not think the wiring would all go back and the car would work again, so i thought i might have to break it  :sad:, but i kept at it and got it all back as tho it had come from the factory as it is now. a lengthy job  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 19:09
Full of win.. as per usual!

I need a favour though :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 19:10
hehe, how can i be of help this time buddie  :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 19:15
The lowest point of your subframe.. how far is it from the floor (in cm) ??

This part..

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs426.snc3/24598_1441654399479_1176646283_31327029_3388350_n.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 19:19
that is going to be hard to measure matey, ill have a look in a bit, how come u need to know this?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 19:21
I measured mine earlier and was wondering if yours was lower than mine :undecided:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: jonnypolish on 20 April 2010, 19:22
Your seats are the nuts! Nice grab on teh BAM!

I claim the seats when they come out  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 19:32
cheers jonny matey :)

joe its aprox 4 to 4.5 cms from the ground that part

tried to take a pic of the underside of the car but cant really get under

(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5469/sv202823.jpg) (http://img412.imageshack.us/i/sv202823.jpg/)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 19:36
sh!t a brick... cheers dude

mine's 3cm :embarassed:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 19:39
i have a bit that hangs lower than this tho which is causing me probs, its a bracket thing that goes over the exhaust!

mine is around the 85/90mm down mark so thats why yours is 3cm as your at 120 aint you?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 19:43
I've wound the front coilovers off the threads so it should be about 120mm I hope?? The rear isn't as low because I didn't want it to sit down at the rear like a Saxo :grin:

The central exhaust bracket only gives me grief on speed bumps
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 19:47
thart bracket scraps on my drive, i wonder if the GTI is different on the underside to yours??  iv still got  few threads to go, mine go down to 120, thinking about it i bet mine is closer to the 100mm mark.. iv got mine the same at the back, its a level drop, im not into the nose down look myself but i also dont like the nose up look either haha :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 20:05
The reason I got my stretched tyres was so that I could go down at the back.. so mine sits level now aswell :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 20 April 2010, 21:42
I think we need pics of the cars side by side to compare  :tongue:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 22:00
Yea.. come to Suffolk Kells :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 22:20
pop round in 5 mins mate  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 22:21
I'll stick the beers in the fridge :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 21 April 2010, 20:19
I think you should invest in a brake light spoiler like Spadys.

OEM VW.

Just what I would do if your car was mine.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 21 April 2010, 21:23
i know what you are saying but just want to leave the original period spoiler in place, did have the highline colour coded item to go on but changed the old mind at the last min  :grin:

also not a huge fan of break lights in spoilers,  but thats just my personal opinion :nerd:

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Wayne on 21 April 2010, 21:36
i know what you are saying but just want to leave the original period spoiler in place, did have the highline colour coded item to go on but changed the old mind at the last min  :grin:

also not a huge fan of break lights in spoilers,  but thats just my personal opinion :nerd:



+1 don't think they look right to be honest.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 21 April 2010, 21:49
I think they look sporty. :undecided:

Also a pet hate of mine is MK3 brake lights, they look like tailights. :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 21 April 2010, 22:02
I like my brake light in the middle, better than just the standard two.  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 21 April 2010, 22:41
Yeah my spoilers a bit shat.

+ it puts my insurance up by £14.50 a year. :cry:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dubstar83 on 21 April 2010, 23:15
nice1 kell av a black mk3 gti got some chrome an black wheels on way wldnt mind startin thread aswell havent a clue how 2 get pics on tho
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 22 April 2010, 16:40
nice1 kell av a black mk3 gti got some chrome an black wheels on way wldnt mind startin thread aswell havent a clue how 2 get pics on tho


cheers dude

i use www.imageshack.us to host my pictures, can even re size them on their, just copy and paste the FORUM code off the site onto here and it puts the pics up
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: jahilton2002 on 22 April 2010, 22:03
Yep your car rocks..... i'm gonna do a red one, already got the headlights lol  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: tdi_blu on 22 April 2010, 22:17
Didnt read through all 43 pages but this car looks so right really nice job kells  :wink:
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Post by: Bellend on 22 April 2010, 23:07
Inspiration this.  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 23 April 2010, 10:02
Wow, cheers guys, thanks for the comments  :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Dec on 23 April 2010, 10:19
Yea.. come to Suffolk Kells :grin:

Make it essex as its in the middle (really not in the middle but closer for kells and me haha)

Seats look sick mate!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 23 April 2010, 10:21
you guys need to come up north, make a weekend of it, go to the club, etc, its full of fit birds so well worth it  :grin:

going to ask my mate about the audi rims today for u Dec mate, he been away :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Dec on 23 April 2010, 10:55
Got a gf mate so no need for girls but she's at kiss weekender in 3 weeks or something so a definate possibility to come up! I'll give you a text about it :)

ah sweet man let me know :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 05 May 2010, 16:51
Needed some new brakes on the front, as the ones that were on were shot

Mintex discs and Pads, which will do till i get the S3 brakes on (and Tarox Discs)

Old V New

(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3116/image046ts.jpg) (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/image046ts.jpg/)

check out how bad the old pads were against the new ones :shocked: down to the bone man  :grin:

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6595/image043ax.jpg) (http://img402.imageshack.us/i/image043ax.jpg/)


all done

(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4958/image044q.jpg) (http://img63.imageshack.us/i/image044q.jpg/)

Removed an old imobiliser, im getting a dab hand with the fuse box now after fitting the new looms the other week  :laugh:

(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3761/image052i.jpg) (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/image052i.jpg/)

and gave it a quick clean

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7340/5555555x.jpg) (http://img517.imageshack.us/i/5555555x.jpg/)

Now off to make tea  :cool:



Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: DrewGTI on 05 May 2010, 17:16
Them wires look messy! Rather you than me mate!  :laugh:

what size adapters you running again matey?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Dec on 05 May 2010, 17:58
Mannnn, wonder what my pads are going to look like :tongue:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 05 May 2010, 18:06
mine were right down to the metal, they were genuine VW items too. discs had a right lip on them and i was getting serious brake fade so they had to go

MOT tomo so best to get them on the car


Drew the fronts are 25mm
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: DrewGTI on 05 May 2010, 18:21
How bout rears matey?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 05 May 2010, 18:36
seems everyione wants my set ups haha
 :grin:
30, major work done on all 4 arches

got a set of 30's for the front too but they are a bit too much, 25 all round is pretty much spot on unless you go major low
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: adzgti3 on 05 May 2010, 18:45
car look very clean and tidy mate.

 :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: DrewGTI on 05 May 2010, 18:52
seems everyione wants my set ups haha
 :grin:
30, major work done on all 4 arches

got a set of 30's for the front too but they are a bit too much, 25 all round is pretty much spot on unless you go major low


hmmmm. . mine are 25mm all rounf 7j D90's... was gonna pop 30 0r 35 on rear...
plus drup it a little more! might leave it 25mm and drop it on them?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 05 May 2010, 23:23
id leave at 25mm and drop more, mines had alot done to the arches, before this i could not get as low and a shreadded a yoko in the process on the arch  :sad:
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Post by: azzrobz on 06 May 2010, 14:11
Loving your car Kell's, I realy want your seats, but with the check anni inserts, (keeping it oem looking) its wat they shulda done with all the anni interiors. if not all leather interiors.
keep up the good work on the batmobile!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 06 May 2010, 17:45
cheers dude :)

iv seen people retrim the recaros like mine but use the annie cloth, as you say, you need to keep that pattern as its what helps make a annie  :smiley:

Just got car back from MOT, what can i say..... i love this car, another year with no advisorys, thats wioth the hids, stretched rubber, etc, and it even passed the emmisions with what i thought was a broken oxygen sensor which i repaired  :cool:

all good, and im very pleased.

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 06 May 2010, 17:54

Just got car back from MOT, what can i say..... i love this car, another year with no advisorys, thats wioth the hids, stretched rubber, etc, and it even passed the emmisions with what i thought was a broken oxygen sensor which i repaired  :cool:


Congrats dude :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 06 May 2010, 17:55
cheers dom matey, its always good to get a clean sheet :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 06 May 2010, 17:59
My old 1.4 heap of a Mk3 sailed through the last one before I sold it. Just one advisory for a tyre!

I was expecting it to fail on all kinds of things, such a good feeling when I got the call saying it had passed  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 11 May 2010, 17:34
Saw my future car whilst in the city earlier, the bright Green one  :evil: :cool:

(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1552/image049t.jpg) (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/image049t.jpg/)

on a serious tip,

Should have my BAM in july for the mk 3, then just need to fit it
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Post by: Dec on 11 May 2010, 17:35
I love RS's :evil:
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Post by: kells on 11 May 2010, 17:37
me too, my gf says she will pay the deposit on one for me if she can have the mk 3  :kiss:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Dec on 11 May 2010, 17:38
Not bad !

My gf says.. hurry up and earn more so I dont have to work. :rolleyes: :tongue:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 11 May 2010, 17:42
GET RID NOW  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Dec on 11 May 2010, 17:43
Haha :tongue:

Her mum's just retired.. at 43 :P alrite for some!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: zdebx on 11 May 2010, 17:53
Naaaaaaaaaahhhh, RS's are nice, especially the new ones, but it's still a Ford :D
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Post by: kells on 11 May 2010, 17:56
yeah i love fords, always have loved all the RS models
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 06 June 2010, 01:02
Couple of crap snaps of when i met jonnypolish today at our bodyshop, put these in the mk3 section too :)

Top guys, really good to meet you :)

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5213/dsc00604gh.jpg) (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/dsc00604gh.jpg/)

(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6008/dsc00605bh.jpg) (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/dsc00605bh.jpg/)

(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/4199/dsc00607s.jpg) (http://img717.imageshack.us/i/dsc00607s.jpg/)
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Post by: kells on 07 June 2010, 22:35
Another random shot i had sent to me

(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/612/image050f.jpg) (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/image050f.jpg/)

and a pic of a funny letter i got in the post from VW  (if only they knew haha  :evil:)

(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/329/letterj.jpg) (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/letterj.jpg/)
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Post by: T_J_G on 08 June 2010, 12:53
WTF it doesn't even rhyme..!
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Post by: kells on 08 June 2010, 13:08
 :grin: i know, bit of a strange one aint it haha, its some competition VW are running, this was on the outside of the envelope.. :grin:
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Post by: Jimp on 08 June 2010, 13:11
Loving the shots of your car and jonnypolish's car  :cool: It shows how different two mk3s can look even with similar bits  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 08 June 2010, 13:19
cheers matey, pics were not that great quality, think he got some better ones, was good to meet him, great bunch of guys, they came all the was up from London too  :cool:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 13 June 2010, 22:09
Ha, that is commitment and reputation for ya ;)
Your guys did amazing work.. Wouldn't have spent my money anywhere else! And a pleasure to meeet!
A couple of days and i'll have our pics uploaded even if they are from the same angles just better quality :D

On another note, in that random shot your rear lights look especially dark, have they been smoked?
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Post by: kells on 14 June 2010, 08:40
aye matey i did a joey mod on those little fellas  :cool:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 14 June 2010, 18:41
Did think they looked darker than usual! Blend in quite nicely with the paintwork!
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Post by: kells on 14 June 2010, 19:39
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/128/87760398.jpg) (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/87760398.jpg/)

(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8618/rearlights1wx7.jpg)
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 14 June 2010, 23:20
Also got a set on mine courtesy of kells:

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt25/Shady_Pioneer/Random%20Pics/DSC_0411.jpg?t=1276553982)

:afro:
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Post by: kells on 15 June 2010, 08:53
looking very good they are too,  :cool: :wink:

car looks well their too m8  :smiley:
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Post by: spear on 15 June 2010, 08:57
Liking the rear lights guys. Did you spray the inside or outside of the lights to get that look?

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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 15 June 2010, 12:44
looking very good they are too,  :cool: :wink:

car looks well their too m8  :smiley:

Cheers bud. I'll be keeping them in case I get another MK3.  :grin:
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Post by: kells on 15 June 2010, 13:20
 :grin: you do right tho  :wink:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 15 June 2010, 17:22
Looking tidy! Wheres my hook up  :sad:
Think i may have to join the joey modders and do mine  :laugh:
After i rip off my VR Splitter and destroy my exhaust of course  :evil:
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Post by: kells on 15 June 2010, 19:48
i would have done em for u when u was up matey if id have known
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 26 June 2010, 18:12
Car has had Major detail session and now looks like its had a respray, truly amazing results pics do not do it justice

they are here:


http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=159371.0

also on a side not, think ill have my BAM engine in my garage in around 8 weeks time all been well  :cool:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 26 June 2010, 18:23
:o Moving quickly mate!
Think us Londoners will have to come up and see you when its in, or come down to our meets
(and show the Supercharged VR's who's boss  :cool:)
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Post by: kells on 02 July 2010, 10:36
A few pics i like from the thread in the detailing section:

If you aint seen it already, the full thread is here with a load more pics:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=159371.0


(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4639/img0024dyk.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/img0024dyk.jpg/)

(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/4213/img0029k.jpg) (http://img821.imageshack.us/i/img0029k.jpg/)

(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/1555/img0200xu.jpg) (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/img0200xu.jpg/)


(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1360/img0203ik.jpg) (http://img295.imageshack.us/i/img0203ik.jpg/)
   
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8518/img0204wf.jpg) (http://img248.imageshack.us/i/img0204wf.jpg/)



(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3033/img0207co.jpg) (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/img0207co.jpg/)
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Post by: kells on 02 July 2010, 10:39
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7823/img0208ll.jpg) (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/img0208ll.jpg/)

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3662/img0218s.jpg) (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/img0218s.jpg/)


(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5936/img0215ed.jpg) (http://img180.imageshack.us/i/img0215ed.jpg/)

(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/369/img0216wc.jpg) (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/img0216wc.jpg/)
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Post by: Jimp on 02 July 2010, 17:50
Looks sweet  :cool: Do you have smoked lamin-x or something on your dual rounds or are they smoked like that anyway?
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Post by: Toopay_MkIII_GT on 02 July 2010, 21:40
looks like it just rolled out the factory! great work there. ive been wanting to buy a G220 machine polisher and some products for a while now. love seeing detailing
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Post by: Wayne on 02 July 2010, 21:42
Looks sweet  :cool: Do you have smoked lamin-x or something on your dual rounds or are they smoked like that anyway?

Hellas were available in smoked or clear.
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Post by: archie837 on 02 July 2010, 23:47
such a boojy interior. Need to get myself some rear headrest seats
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 03 July 2010, 15:15
cheers guys,

jimp the hellas are genuine smoked (came like this)

Toopay_MkIII_GT, do it matey, everywhere i go in this mk3 people just look at at and i get so many compliments, makes all the hard work seem worthy  :cool:

P.S dont forget i use this car everyday no matter what the weather etc, and this is all original paint work unlike many others. It is a well used car and i keep it looking this fresh at all times, takes some doing but as i say, its well worth the effort

 :smiley:
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Post by: kells on 04 July 2010, 19:01
Another pic i found on my iphone i like

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2023/gtin.jpg) (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/gtin.jpg/)

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Post by: dubsport on 04 July 2010, 19:13
^ hard as nails  :evil:
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Post by: kells on 04 July 2010, 19:18
angry looking car  :cool: :evil:
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Post by: Dec on 04 July 2010, 22:57
That pic is awesome!
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Post by: kells on 04 July 2010, 23:09
That pic is awesome!

Yeah I love it too. Was taken on the new iPhone 4 :-)
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Post by: archie837 on 04 July 2010, 23:14


Yeah I love it too. Was taken on the new iPhone 4 :-)

Aye was gonna say, iPhone photo are you sure? It's nice and clear! Took one on my 3g earlier and  :undecided: rubbish!
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Post by: tdi_blu on 04 July 2010, 23:20
car looks stunning mate  :shocked: pop round and do mine if you want  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 05 July 2010, 09:14
Cheers matey. -)


ARchie,yep iPhone 4, the new one, really good
At pics I was surprised too
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Dec on 05 July 2010, 10:10
iphone 3gs pics arent toooo bad, just need a little tweaking in photoshop or lightroom to get the colour to be vibrant :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: jonnypolish on 08 July 2010, 19:29
Sorry its taken so long mate but here are our pics from the trip up  :smug:

(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31014.jpg)
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31013.jpg)
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31012.jpg)
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31011.jpg)
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31009.jpg)
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31008.jpg)
Same as your one but better quality  :cool:
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31007.jpg)
And one of your car which looks superb mate ;)
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31006.jpg)

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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 July 2010, 20:38
Missed opportunity here......

You know that film Dumb and Dumber.....

You should have re-enacted some of the scenes with the cars and then the owners.  :grin:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 08 July 2010, 20:42
Your pathetic. That is all.
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 20:48
Sweet pics matey, nice one, was a good day :)

ignore that fat tw4t, he is getting obsessive about me now...

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Post by: avengedslayer on 08 July 2010, 20:48
This front end on kells car is awesome, ispiration for my estate,  :smiley:
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 20:51
cheers buddie, look forward to your estate project  :cool:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 July 2010, 20:59
ignore that fat tw4t,

On what basis am I 'fat'?  Just curious - it's a new insult for you.  You must have seen a fat person recently and thought it was me....
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 21:02
ignore that fat tw4t,

On what basis am I 'fat'?  Just curious - it's a new insult for you.  You must have seen a fat person recently and thought it was me....

saw a pic of your in khares pics, you got a tubby belly by look of it... need to loose that, or calm down on your diet shave a zilisecond of ya lap times and beat hurdys 350hp monster, its downhill from now for you so take this as a early warning  :kiss:

now please fark of my thread and revert to PM if you wanna carry this one on

Ta
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 July 2010, 21:13
You sure you're not mistaking me for DannyP?  :huh:

Thanks for the early warning.

Here's one for you.  Keep on hanging about in nightclubs and you'll wind up like Peter Stringfellow.

HTHs.

(http://www.diamondhell.com/loser.gif)
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 21:20
You sure you're not mistaking me for DannyP?  :huh:

Thanks for the early warning.

Here's one for you.  Keep on hanging about in nightclubs and you'll wind up like Peter Stringfellow.

HTHs.

(http://www.diamondhell.com/loser.gif)

is danny fat :), nah it was you

do you go to any shows? i wanna meet you

and if i end up with his bank balance id be happy  :grin:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 July 2010, 21:25
Maybe Combe in July.  If you did show you'd need to be bringing a lid.  :grin:

Danny's a very good mate, but by his own admission he's put on a bit of weight lately.
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 21:29
a lid ? Hmmm okies lol

maybe we should meet for scones and a cup of tea.. have this out face to face and move on ? or we can just carry on like this pissing the rest of the forum off ? its up to you
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Post by: benvictors on 08 July 2010, 21:41
I used to find it funny that DH just follows you about the forum putting stupid little comments after anything you post, however its getting a little long in the tooth now, he's like your own, annoying, forum shadow  :laugh:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 July 2010, 21:44
a lid ? Hmmm okies lol

You'd show up as much as your buddie would race Nick at Pod.
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Post by: funkyfive on 08 July 2010, 21:46
Liking the Rims Kells. Have you had a little extra smoke on the rear clusters? Thinking of getting mine tinted to get some extra badness
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 21:49
a lid ? Hmmm okies lol

You'd show up as much as your buddie would race Nick at Pod.

my buddie is not gonna show up at the pod to race a old mk 2 8v (not having a dig before anyone starts), he aint even into all that sh!te, but if horney was at the lights (or any other mk 2 gti) he would put the foot down and smoke him, unless said mk 2 had some modifield modern converted engine swap

hell, even i couldnt be arse to make that huge trip!

if you wanted to meet up, y'know what, i would do my best to meet you if we were to sort things out face to face..






@funkyfive, cheers dude, and yeah iv modified the rear lights a tad :)

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Post by: funkyfive on 08 July 2010, 21:54
You got to tell me did you tint them yourself?, they look smooth from the back and your car looks mean from the front. Feeling the love!!!
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 21:57
You got to tell me did you tint them yourself?, they look smooth from the back and your car looks mean from the front. Feeling the love!!!

thanks man :)

and yeah i did the rear lights myself matey
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Post by: jonnypolish on 08 July 2010, 22:03
Wow I feel bad for posting the pics now Brad since your little follower has jumped on it!
Shame the front end of mine looks so stock :( Was a great day though  :cool:
I hope to see you soon Mr Stringfellow  :laugh:
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 22:05
 :grin: :grin: :grin:

glad you posted, love the pics :)

next time you lot are coming to the club.... stringfellow VIP stylee


 :grin:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 July 2010, 22:15
if you wanted to meet up, y'know what, i would do my best to meet you if we were to sort things out face to face..

What is there to 'sort out'

I can't teach you reason and objectivity in one face to face meeting.

As the saying goes - you can't educate pork.

You're all hot air.

Now hurry up with the BAM conversion (scene victim) and build something worth talking about.
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 22:18
ok fair do, you dont wanna sort things out and move on, dont say i didnt offer  :sad:

BAM will be here in around 8 weeks, thats when the S3 comes off the road..
i am looking forward to it as the mk3 is crying out for it  :grin:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 July 2010, 22:32
ok fair do, you dont wanna sort things out and move on, dont say i didnt offer  :sad:

Don't dismiss it like that, you poor wounded soldier.

I have no idea what 'sort out' means 'on the street'.

Man-up and come to Combe.

It'll cost me a helluva lot more than you.
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 22:35
ok fair do, you dont wanna sort things out and move on, dont say i didnt offer  :sad:

Don't dismiss it like that, you poor wounded soldier.

I have no idea what 'sort out' means 'on the street'.

Man-up and come to Combe.

It'll cost me a helluva lot more than you.


when is combe then, whats the deal with it ? are you doing the track thing then i take it ?
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Post by: Horney on 08 July 2010, 22:40
but if horney was at the lights (or any other mk 2 gti) he would put the foot down and smoke him, unless said mk 2 had some modifield modern converted engine swap

I'm not gonna spam your thread loads etc but I just felt the need to point out that the age of engine has nothing to do with performance. Old engines can modified to produce big big power as well as modern engines. It just involves less messing about with laptops and more messing about with powertools. The fastest street legal car in the world runs a Chevy V8 which dates from the 1950's.

Modern engines are great, especially FI ones as they are easy to wind the boost up and get good numbers. Old engines are good as well and one thing which they have going for them for the home modifier is they are much simpler to maintain and fault diagnose. Horses for courses and all that.

nick
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 22:42
nope, i totally agree,  thats a valid and fair point, my quote was just a random one, nothing in it and not aimed at anyone..
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Post by: Horney on 08 July 2010, 22:45
fair does. :cool: Just felt the need to stick up for us that soldier on with our stone age fuel injection systems and single figure valves :grin:

nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 22:50
fair does. :cool: Just felt the need to stick up for us that soldier on with our stone age fuel injection systems and single figure valves :grin:

nick

LOL at the single fig valves part

 :cool:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 08 July 2010, 22:51
Nick has hit the nail on the head... Good lad :)

And Brad i look forward to it mate  :cool:
I'll make sure your BAM is in first before i come up!
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 22:53
Nick has hit the nail on the head... Good lad :)

And Brad i look forward to it mate  :cool:
I'll make sure your BAM is in first before i come up!

too right matey, had a drive of the doner car yesterday, pulls well, but crying out for a remap  :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Horney on 08 July 2010, 23:02
when is combe then, whats the deal with it ? are you doing the track thing then i take it ?

Sat 24th July @ Castle Combe race circuit. It's a VW Driver Magazine trackday + Show. Passengers are £10 I think and you need a crash helmet (Motorbike ones are fine or you can hire one from the circuit). It's a fair old trek from your manor but if you do come down your welcome to a pax lap in the white heap.

Nick
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Post by: kells on 09 July 2010, 08:35
Ah cheers that's a really nice offer. I will certainly look into it even just for a nice long trip out  :grin:

Maybe convince the other half to come along, it all depends on what work I have on that weekend and how far from me it actually is

Cheers for that kind offer their Nick  :cool:
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Post by: kells on 09 July 2010, 08:51
220 miles each way Hmm :) Had a look on goolge earth on my phone  :evil:
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Post by: dom on 09 July 2010, 22:09
Loving the pics... that red Mk4 looks phat  :cool:  :tongue:

(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31011.jpg)
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Post by: kells on 09 July 2010, 23:54
Red mk 4 has had almost 30k spent on it.it's 400bhp and is for sale at 8k I think.
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Post by: jonnypolish on 10 July 2010, 19:31
It's only 8k?!? You could strip it and sell it for a fair sized profit..
Brad... Buy it for me and i'll give you the monies  :laugh:

McClaren SLR discs with Ferrari calipers ALL round... Utter hype!
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 November 2010, 19:46
May aswell bump htis thread with recent happenings
Had a run in with a sainsburys truck who decided to pull out on me saying he didn’t see me, this resulted in this:

(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4549/imagebm.jpg) (http://img295.imageshack.us/i/imagebm.jpg/)

Was rather pissed off at this, but it was either a rim getting damaged or the whole side of the car...

i thought the rim was beyond repair, until i was put on to a guy over in York who races Porsches, i gave the guy a call thinking he would just say what i expected (na the wheels a right off) but instead he was very positive..

Needless to say, i got the wheel to him the same day, He checked to see if it was buckled or cracked, and found it was not, and the damage was just cosmetic (he told me that’s the beauty with Porsche rims – very well built and one of the strongest out their – Bonus!)
 2 days later he called me to say the rim had been re-welded and was perfect!!!  (Minus paint)

Which led me onto my next issue, the paint!, this was a one off mix,  the guys at my refurb place said they could just paint the outer rim on the damaged rim, but I was not happy with that idea in case the match was not perfect..

So.... I had all the wheels refurbished again in the same shade, with a little bit more flip to them this time, they came back looking  fooking amazing, here is a shot of the damaged rim fully repaired
 (http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8017/imagehzb.jpg) (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/imagehzb.jpg/)
I had already sourced a replacement rim (not a easy task with it been a well sought after 8j) thinking the damaged wheel  was going to be only good as a ornament, so I now have 5 rims all painted up, so I’ve got a spare stashed away..  Also got a paint code now so if anything like this happens (god forbid) again I won’t have to have all the wheels painted due to worrying about getting a match on the colour

Here is the car on the newly finished rims, (all my recent pics are actually of it on these as this all happened a few month back now)
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5874/gtixo.jpg) (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/gtixo.jpg/)
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6448/sv202751.jpg) (http://img89.imageshack.us/i/sv202751.jpg/)

Other small additions included me carbon wrapping my rear VW badge and a spare rear spoiler (which I didn’t like on my car so never fitted it in the end)

Here is the badge tho, I like it and it looks really good on the car seen as iv got carbon lettering on the number plates
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6760/badgez.jpg) (http://img835.imageshack.us/i/badgez.jpg/)

That’s it for now, the car will be coming off the road around January time for engine work and other stuff.. so its all change for 2011.....

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Post by: jeremybarker on 08 November 2010, 19:54
Your car is a reason for me wanting a MK3 at some point.

One of the nicest MK3's with those wheels and colour combo  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 November 2010, 20:05
ahh cheers mate, appreciate the comment  :cool:
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Post by: dom on 08 November 2010, 20:06
Looks good as ever Kells :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 08 November 2010, 20:32
Cheers dude, a few tricks to come in the new year, sooner rather than later i hope  :lipsrsealed: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 08 November 2010, 21:01
Cheers dude, a few tricks to come in the new year, sooner rather than later i hope  :lipsrsealed: :cool:

Still going BAM?  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 November 2010, 21:18
Yep.. donor car is almost mine...  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 08 November 2010, 21:23
Yep.. donor car is almost mine...  :laugh:

 :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Jimp on 08 November 2010, 23:12
Good to hear the wheels (and everything else  :grin:) are ok. Looks awesome as usual  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 09 November 2010, 09:04
nice one jimp matey, the most important thing was my GF, she was in the car when the incident happened, and to say she was scared is a understatement, to make matters worse, the Sainsbury’s truck was parked on double yellow lines, then just decided to pull out with no indication what so ever   :rolleyes:

His excuse for been on the yellow lines - His bosses say he is not allowed to park in front of the shop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   (its one of these small Sainsbury’s stores that have taken over a local store, not sure if you guys have them. this one is on a very busy main road near a hospital, even with him parked how he was, ambulances would have had trouble getting by

Here is a shot of the truck, and the central reservation which i only just caught with the wheel.. (mk 3 breaks are dam good  :grin:)


(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/7148/photouu.jpg) (http://img600.imageshack.us/i/photouu.jpg/)
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Post by: lemski on 09 November 2010, 12:41
Its always someone elses fault. Just red this, nice mk3. Sorry to hear bout the incedent bud
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 November 2010, 12:48
Cheers fella, all back to normal now so no drama, just one of them things  :cool:
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Post by: dubsport on 09 November 2010, 17:01
looks facking sweet bruh! :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Ninja on 10 November 2010, 10:02
Kells,

I know you've heard this many times. But your car is one of the reasons for the move to MK3 from MK2.

Sweet ride. (Mine's nicer  :tongue:)
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Post by: robz on 10 November 2010, 11:00
give him a bigger head... lol
although he knows what i think also ;)
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Post by: lewis1641 on 10 November 2010, 11:34
wheel repair looks bang on.

car's not too shabby either!
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Post by: Len on 11 November 2010, 12:39
Ah but mines better than Brads!  :wink: :grin:


Glad to see this thread still here btw!  :wink:
And you hanging around!  :cool:
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Post by: T_J_G on 11 November 2010, 19:01
I like this car.
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Post by: tdi_blu on 11 November 2010, 20:06
One of my favs this  :cool:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 November 2010, 16:39
Ah but mines better than Brads!

Empirically.

More doors, more whores.

More valves...... well it's obviously just better.  Unless it's 20valves, of course.
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2010, 09:06
car is now in winter mode, standard GTI rims etc..

small new mod, new led modification iv done, these illuminate the gearstick/cubbyhole are really well without distracting you in the night, similar to what you find in the new BMW's

(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/9551/photoovc.jpg) (http://img827.imageshack.us/i/photoovc.jpg/)

wont be around much to answer to this post, so please dont think im been ignorant

 :cool:
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Post by: lemski on 16 December 2010, 09:40
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet
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Post by: robz on 16 December 2010, 10:14
Ya got pics if the cubbyhole bit?
Good idea though mate!
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Post by: Dec on 16 December 2010, 11:07
Oi ! BMW's and Audi's too :grin: :tongue:

Looks sweet mate!
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2010, 11:53
i had this in the m3 and the 530D my mate just got, looks really cool, epecially at nite, but its wired to the ignition so its on all the time  :cool:

be a bit hard to get a pic of the way it illuminates the cubbyhole area, but it just shines a very subtle light down that area without scattering the beam, i has to place the leds a certain way to do this,did a blue illuminated one also but much too bright for my likes
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2010, 12:16
Not sure if i already posted this up, but modified my rear badge too

(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6760/badgez.jpg) (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/badgez.jpg/)
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 16 December 2010, 12:23
Oi ! BMW's and Audi's too :grin: :tongue:

Looks sweet mate!
and later VWs and Mazda and.......

Good job though... how did you do the badge then?

Shaun
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2010, 12:54
i dunno what other cars have them, the audis iv been n dont nor does the mazdas (2 x RX8's) but i just saw it in the bmw and liked the idea  :wink:

the badge was done using carbon wrap and my GF's hair dryer, i first removed it from the backing rubber which is glued via the pins on the rear, i then re glued this part after


also did a spare rear spoiler but thats not gonna see my car
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 16 December 2010, 13:34
i dunno what other cars have them, the audis iv been n dont nor does the mazdas (2 x RX8's) but i just saw it in the bmw and liked the idea  :wink:

the badge was done using carbon wrap and my GF's hair dryer, i first removed it from the backing rubber which is glued via the pins on the rear, i then re glued this part after


also did a spare rear spoiler but thats not gonna see my car
  First time I clocked it was in a dub, I had a mk5 golf with 2 red led's, My Mazda 6 has them in blue but they are a subtle blue
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2010, 15:06
i tried blue but way too bright for what i wanted, and it was a distraction too, the subtle blue u have sounds cool

im off for test drive in a mk 6 GTI this week so ill see if that has them  :cool:  they are handy i must admit
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 16 December 2010, 15:30
i tried blue but way too bright for what i wanted, and it was a distraction too, the subtle blue u have sounds cool

im off for test drive in a mk 6 GTI this week so ill see if that has them  :cool:  they are handy i must admit

Yeah the blue works in the MAZ, funny though as all the instruments are the same colour as BM, amber, but there is one blue multi function oval light in the middle of the stereo and then the blue ambient lighting like yours....

MK6 has them.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 16 December 2010, 15:53
small new mod, new led modification iv done, these illuminate the gearstick/cubbyhole are really well without distracting you in the night, similar to what you find in the new BMW's

And tractors since about year 2000.  I think that's a more appropriate comparison to draw.

Although the tractors are far more sophisticated than this old barge.

wont be around much to answer to this post, so please dont think im been ignorant

QED.  Answers not required.
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Post by: Jimp on 16 December 2010, 15:58
Nice one on the interior lights. Reminds me of the W8 light mod on mk4s. The same lights are in my mk5 as standard, same shade of red too. They look so cool  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2010, 16:13
Yeah they look cool at nite, really good little mod this, i didnt realise the mk 5 had them, nice touch  :cool:

As for a tractor been more sophisticated, id say one of those could be much more sophisticated than most cars on the road... 
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 16 December 2010, 16:20
small new mod, new led modification iv done, these illuminate the gearstick/cubbyhole are really well without distracting you in the night, similar to what you find in the new BMW's

And tractors since about year 2000.  I think that's a more appropriate comparison to draw.

Although the tractors are far more sophisticated than this old barge.

wont be around much to answer to this post, so please dont think im been ignorant

QED.  Answers not required.

(http://www.techimo.com/forum/attachments/suggestion-box/14393d1117651123-pokey-stick-smiley-poke.gif)  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 December 2010, 20:54

Had a slight issue the other night with the rear brakes..

hit a bump in the road at 40mph and the rear brakes locked up, handbrake was jammed on, drivers side rear disc was glowing orange like a Le Mans 24HR car  :laugh:, and the amount of smoke that was coming off it i thought the car was gonna set up in flames

Second mare of the night was the car not fitting on the tow truck greenflag sent, which was annoying because they told me the name of the garage who were going to recover me, and i know only one of their trucks fits my car on due to how low it is.. Anyhow long story short they came in a regular tow truck, i couldn’t be arsed to f**k about so I removed the lower splitter and all was good  :cool:

Myself and Ben (Ben victors off here) inspected the car the morning after to find this on the rear passenger side

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7881/imageozv.jpg) (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/imageozv.jpg/)

Spot the problem....

(for those less blessed amongst us the calliper should sit at around the 1 o clock position)


Also the sh!t guard that sits on the hub was like this

(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9066/imagexj.jpg) (http://img530.imageshack.us/i/imagexj.jpg/)


The reason???  Well the bolts which hold the calliper on the hub were gone!!!!  No damage, no fecked threrads, just complete gone as tho they had been removed; now i know these were super tight as i hammered them on a few month back...They are the 2 Allen key bolts.


I also had a overheated problem due to a frozen RAD on the night we had a -12 temp... this was the nail in the coffin for my already leaking radiator....cracked...big time


So we  fitted a new one, no pics of the new on but here is the car in prep for removal of old unit, we managed to remove/replace with the slam panel in situ which was a bonus, refilled the system with 50/50 mix of VW G12 Plus, and fitted a new heater resistor..

(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1442/imagemphk.jpg) (http://img832.imageshack.us/i/imagemphk.jpg/)



car heater/coolant system runs like a charm as do the breaks, we were lucky enough not to have warped a disc, one of the pads was destroyed so we changed those out for a new set


Last thing done was wiring in my puddle lights in my doors, we did Bens car too, this is a cool mod

trip to the car grave yard to find a MK4...


(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3436/imagetzp.jpg) (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/imagetzp.jpg/)


and here they are, these are lit, bright so hard to get a decent pic but you get the idea, basically just like on a mk4 gti

(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6885/imageqg.jpg) (http://img600.imageshack.us/i/imageqg.jpg/)





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Post by: Wayne on 30 December 2010, 20:56
Did you use loctite on the cailper bolts.
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Post by: Bellend on 30 December 2010, 20:58
As Wayne said.

I absolutely f**king hate Loctite but this is why I force myself to use it.

Can't really think why else it would have happened. :undecided:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 December 2010, 20:58
Did you use loctite on the cailper bolts.


yeah i got locktite on those plue the carrier bolts
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Post by: Bellend on 30 December 2010, 21:01
Very strange.  :huh:

It's impossible to get to them without removing the car/jacking them up really, isn't it?  :undecided:

Lucky though!

How comes it froze? Topping it up with water?

Good results all roundish I guess.  :grin:
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Post by: Wayne on 30 December 2010, 21:03
Did you use loctite on the cailper bolts.


yeah i got locktite on those plue the carrier bolts

Very odd then.
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Post by: Bellend on 30 December 2010, 21:05
Did you use loctite on the cailper bolts.


yeah i got locktite on those plue the carrier bolts

That is the carrier that's moved tho?  :huh:
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Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 December 2010, 21:06
You shouldn't need loctite on the carrier bolts, they are tight.
The caliper bolts need loctite.
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 December 2010, 21:10
we were bloody shocked TBH


Re the Rad, my bad really, i had developed a leak, and was topping up on water till i got round to fitting the new Rad, guess too much water in the system, the one night of -12 did the obvious


all good results in the end tho, car is now running to perfection once again, its also had a service with genuine VW parts, oild etc... all good at the mo

tomo ill be giving it a good clean..

also got this kit as one of my gifts at Xmas... cant wait to use it, gonna go on a quick course before i use it tho, just so i can learn the right way..

http://www.monzacarcare.com/machine-polishing-3/dodo-juice-rotary-starter-polishing-kit/0/


@audi quattro, if thats the case why do the bolts you get with genuine pads have locktite on the threads when u buy em  :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 December 2010, 21:13
Did you use loctite on the cailper bolts.


yeah i got locktite on those plue the carrier bolts

That is the carrier that's moved tho?  :huh:


Yeah the whole lot had moved, the bolts that are allen key ones which hold the carrier to the car were the ones missing, i also dab a lil sealent on the 2 13mm bolts that hold the caliper centre to the carrier.. if this makes sense
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Post by: Bellend on 30 December 2010, 21:15
I see what you were saying. Lucky though, sharp corner and not expecting it.  :lipsrsealed:

we were bloody shocked TBH


Re the Rad, my bad really, i had developed a leak, and was topping up on water till i got round to fitting the new Rad, guess too much water in the system, the one night of -12 did the obvious


all good results in the end tho, car is now running to perfection once again, its also had a service with genuine VW parts, oild etc... all good at the mo

tomo ill be giving it a good clean..

also got this kit as one of my gifts at Xmas... cant wait to use it, gonna go on a quick course before i use it tho, just so i can learn the right way..

http://www.monzacarcare.com/machine-polishing-3/dodo-juice-rotary-starter-polishing-kit/0/


@audi quattro, if thats the case why do the bolts you get with genuine pads have locktite on the threads when u buy em  :wink:

Yeah mate, they are the calliper bolts, which need loctite.

The carrier bolts don't apparently which when thinking  about it most don't.....
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 December 2010, 21:18
i know the bar stewards were tight as a nuns ass hole

the caliper made a nice grinding mark on the inner wheel, thank got i have the winter rims on and not my porkers
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Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 December 2010, 21:42
we were bloody shocked TBH


Re the Rad, my bad really, i had developed a leak, and was topping up on water till i got round to fitting the new Rad, guess too much water in the system, the one night of -12 did the obvious


all good results in the end tho, car is now running to perfection once again, its also had a service with genuine VW parts, oild etc... all good at the mo

tomo ill be giving it a good clean..

also got this kit as one of my gifts at Xmas... cant wait to use it, gonna go on a quick course before i use it tho, just so i can learn the right way..

http://www.monzacarcare.com/machine-polishing-3/dodo-juice-rotary-starter-polishing-kit/0/


@audi quattro, if thats the case why do the bolts you get with genuine pads have locktite on the threads when u buy em  :wink:

As Bellend just said, the caliper bolts need loctite, they are only about 20lb ft.
The carrier bolts(allen heads) are 60ft lb(i might be wrong), but they are tight and don't need loctite.
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Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 December 2010, 21:48
Correction the carrier bolts are 65nm or about 48lb ft, if tightened with a torque wrench, they shouldn't come loose!!
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 December 2010, 21:51
ahh i see, yeah mate thats what i meant, a bit of confusion their, it was the 2 Allen head bolts which were gone (the ones that dont have locktite as standard)

they very extreeeeeeemly tight around 3 month ago, as i hammered the allen key - to nthe point i was worried id not get them off again  :grin:, i could no way get my torque wrench in that tight area
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 31 December 2010, 09:50
So you over-tightened the bolts and stretched the threads, which is why they came loose.

I've had a rear caliper carrier bolt come loose on a test run in my Golf before - makes an almighty racket when it comes loose - every time you let off it goes 'clonk' into the wheel.  You must have had some bangin' choons on in your car not to notice it happening.

As for progressively thinning your coolant down to water through winter oop norf.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 December 2010, 13:36
the threads on the caliper are fine, not strectched, so i dunno if the bolts threads could have been, im no expert, guess it could be possible, but they were treated to a (small) dab of locktite.. just glad it didnt cause no more damage, and very lucky the disc didnt warp either.

the rad, yeah plain bonkers really, although it was topped up before the massive freeze we had, still not a good thing to do granted, should have swapped out the rad for the new one sooner..
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 January 2011, 23:01
Gonna bump this back up to the top, the next job now going to be dedicated to the engine swap, which should be taking place the back end of Feb/march
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Post by: Dec on 10 January 2011, 13:35
Siiiiiick :cool: :cool:
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Post by: VR6_Wherry on 10 January 2011, 13:37
Gonna bump this back up to the top, the next job now going to be dedicated to the engine swap, which should be taking place the back end of Feb/march

Did you manage to decide what engine was goin in then!  :grin: :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 January 2011, 17:37
looks like the S3 lump mate (BAM) already got some bits for the conversion, wanna get it off the road before the MOT is due (MAY) and done, coz i wanna fit a new steering rack at the same time as when the engine is out as i have some play and a slight leak in the one thats on the car now, so that could be a MOT fail anyhow.
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Post by: jonnypolish on 10 January 2011, 17:45
<3
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Post by: Jimp on 10 January 2011, 19:50
Best of luck with the conversion man  :cool:
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Post by: Sam on 10 January 2011, 20:03
Gonna be pretty phat when this conversion is done kells  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 January 2011, 20:39
Gonna be pretty phat when this conversion is done kells  :smiley:


thanks alot for that pal  :wink: :cool:
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Post by: Mikester on 10 January 2011, 20:55
Gonna be pretty phat when this conversion is done kells  :smiley:


thanks alot for that pal  :wink: :cool:

Not wrong, he has been talking about it for long enough. ha
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 January 2011, 21:03
i have mate, but you should know me, do it once do it to perfection  :laugh:

jokes aside, its difficult to take this car out of use as i use it A LOT and for all my DJ work etc, conversion has to be done quickly, MOT is up in may so thats the latest the car will be off the road (coz it need the new rack to pass anyhow), then it needs to be back on the road ASAP on a urgent basis.

Remap and ill just enjoy it (wanting the factory ECU and loom set up)

Only other mod id like is some porker front breaks, im happy with rest of car and i want to retain its original 1990's looks as much as i can on the basis - less is more  :cool:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 11 January 2011, 10:39
i have mate, but you should know me, do it once do it to perfection  :laugh:

jokes aside, its difficult to take this car out of use as i use it A LOT and for all my DJ work etc, conversion has to be done quickly, MOT is up in may so thats the latest the car will be off the road (coz it need the new rack to pass anyhow), then it needs to be back on the road ASAP on a urgent basis.

Remap and ill just enjoy it (wanting the factory ECU and loom set up)

Only other mod id like is some porker front breaks, im happy with rest of car and i want to retain its original 1990's looks as much as i can on the basis - less is more  :cool:

Good luck with the conversion... Do have to carry much gear around?... Cant you get yourself a heap to bomb about in while the golf is off the road?
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 January 2011, 19:05
dont carry hardly owt around mate just my tunes and Mac, but yeah thats a option i had thought of, just dont want an excuse to leave the car off the road for too long,  :smiley:
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Post by: Mikester on 11 January 2011, 19:07
dont carry hardly owt around mate just my tunes and Mac, but yeah thats a option i had thought of, just dont want an excuse to leave the car off the road for too long,  :smiley:

Be an idea though as its never going to go smoothly and quickly lets be honest.
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 January 2011, 19:09
i know mate, i hear you on that...maybe get another Mk3 gti so i can break it for parts after....   :undecided:
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Post by: Mikester on 11 January 2011, 19:12
i know mate, i hear you on that...maybe get another Mk3 gti so i can break it for parts after....   :undecided:

Not a bad idea to be fair. Loads about dirt cheap.
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Post by: Dmonday on 11 January 2011, 19:21
i picked up a 1.4 for £400 to get me to work and i've managed to make more back on that selling the coilovers and stuff off it ;) means you don't have to rush the conversion that way, first time round i rushed my VR conversion and things was tie-wrapped all over :D good luck with the conversion!

Dan
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 January 2011, 19:23
Good going Dan

and cheers buddie. going for a OEM look in the Bay too, really looking forward to this conversion as the car is crying out for propper lump
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Post by: dom on 11 January 2011, 19:39
Good going Dan

and cheers buddie. going for a OEM look in the Bay too, really looking forward to this conversion as the car is crying out for propper lump

I'll look forward to seeing the bay when your finished with it then! Yours is pretty immaculate at the moment!  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 January 2011, 19:44
Thanks man, new one will be treated to the same love  :laugh:

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Post by: F17BAD on 12 January 2011, 12:04
2.0T FSI conversion is back on the table and in my options list again, really keen on this engine and after speaking the Ben at  Qpeng iv found out they are releasing the kit in the next month or so to "plug and play"
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Post by: Horney on 12 January 2011, 12:15
Will this one include knock sensor use? I've always liked the idea of the qpeng for the 20vt conversions bu tthe lack of knock detection has always struck me as major weakness of their looms.

nick
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Post by: Wayne on 12 January 2011, 12:29
2.0T FSI conversion is back on the table and in my options list again, really keen on this engine and after speaking the Ben at  Qpeng iv found out they are releasing the kit in the next month or so to "plug and play"

Interesting, am I right in thinking you still need to raise fuel pressure etc.


Will this one include knock sensor use? I've always liked the idea of the qpeng for the 20vt conversions bu tthe lack of knock detection has always struck me as major weakness of their looms.

You share my view on qpang, no knock sensor is poor
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Post by: F17BAD on 12 January 2011, 14:00
Guys these are all questions iv asked, im awaiting a response
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Post by: F17BAD on 12 January 2011, 14:58
I just got a reply, get the idea he didnt want to say much and the only thing he confirmed was that i could use my original dash and clocks etc, its it will be 100 % plug and play
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Post by: Horney on 12 January 2011, 15:04
Hummm sounds interesting. Will have to see how this develops. Could be tempted to FSI the MKII in a couple of years.

Nick
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Post by: danny_p on 12 January 2011, 15:10
you need a copy of elsa and wireing tools.  then just have it the ecu cracked.   the pl with skills managed to get past the immob some time ago 
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Post by: F17BAD on 12 January 2011, 15:51
yeah i already know this, i dont have the skills and those that do are wanting silly money, thats the problem..

i like the FSI lump tho, very tempting to go for it even tho i really want factory management
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 12 January 2011, 16:48
my friend with the S3 came to see me this morning, says he is breaking the car in around a month. struck a deal on the engine, Gearbox, ECU, Clocks, Full looms, Front Breaks and anything else i need for the conversion all for 450 quid!  im well happy with that, its a 2001 bam engine with full audi history and 80k on the clock

just playing the waiting game now :cool:

jokes aside, its difficult to take this car out of use as i use it A LOT and for all my DJ work etc, conversion has to be done quickly, MOT is up in may so thats the latest the car will be off the road (coz it need the new rack to pass anyhow), then it needs to be back on the road ASAP on a urgent basis.

Well there's a year between the 2010 'expected date' and the new 2011 'expected date' so I guess we can expect a new mid-2012 'expected date' next January or thereabouts because you clearly neither have the balls, facilities, cash or any idea of how to complete either a 1.8T or 2.0TSI conversion.  You are all mouth and no trousers, or prove me wrong by completing the conversion.

You will now tell me I'm a farmer, who's arrogant, full of sh*t and go on about how your'e going to do this without actually taking any action whatsoever.  Are you afraid you'll chip the paint on your tugboat, or maybe damage and indicator repeater?

I also predict the posts outlining the above will appear to have been constructed by someone with a sub-normal grasp of the English language.

Porsche brakes my f*cking ar$e.
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Post by: F17BAD on 12 January 2011, 18:30
Hows F uk off sound to you ?
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 12 January 2011, 22:10
Sounds like someone who's right out of excuses for doing nothing about the engine conversion they've been talking about for what, nearly two years?  :grin:
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Post by: Jimp on 12 January 2011, 23:23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTBPdVpdMc
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Post by: Dmonday on 12 January 2011, 23:27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTBPdVpdMc

:D think that will make them want to kill each other even more then they already do!

Dan
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 09:11
LOL
He obviously isnt as good at reading as he makes out, the point i made about hard taking the car off the road was not said for no reason. Iv never been in no rush, i didnt know it was a race ?


Anyhow, he will see, as will others.
Myself and Ben "Jammin" Victors are doing the conversion and iv already got some bits... 

And the car will not get treated to nasty damage and paint defects like your conversions do, and no ECU's will be fried.. yes i can solder  :kiss:


So yeah, just wait and see thomas,

In the meantime:

DONT HATE - PARTICIPATE :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 January 2011, 09:38
DONT BULLSH*T, DO SOMETHING.

A race would involve you doing something more than making a lot of noise, something you've proven is about your only skill.

We'll all await you removing chips from ECUs and replacing them to show off your mad skilz.

And the car will not get treated to nasty damage and paint defects like your conversions do

Yeah, maybe you'll do some of the work yourself, unlike others.  :grin:

I'm sure no professional outfit has ever chipped paint or broken a clip on a +15 year old indicator repeater.  How that can be replaced, I'll never know.

Easy to take a holier than thou stance when you've done the square root of f*ck all, isn't it?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 09:59
Iv never had my car damaged any place, not even at quick fit LOL :grin:

Damage like that is done by some fool that takes little pride in the work they are doing, hence why id never let a goon like you any place close to my property.

And to be arrogant to certain people’s family members is just plain rude, u may have half this forum hanging out the back of you but its not very professional for a middle aged man to promote pointless crap about a certain member publicly..

and as for soldering surface mount stuff, LOL I have no problems doing that.

Anyhow, this thread is not about that or you/your pathetic ways, But you are correct its taken a while for me to get to this stage, so have a little gold star. But in all honesty i was thinking of getting a new car last year and that’s why my plans were put on hold, not that you should be worrying about what I do or anything. Not all of us publicly announce every part of our life on a forum.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: tdi_blu on 13 January 2011, 10:10
Its clear to see as pointed out youve been talking and thinking about the conversion for some time.As youve mentioned their is no race to do it and of course funding is needed to carry out the work but from looking at your car and the work mods you have done youve never rushed and thats why the car is the standard it is why its such a nice motor.Best thing to do is when you can just crack on with it mate and get posting and prove people wrong either way good luck with it  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: robz on 13 January 2011, 10:36
glad your back on it kells!!
also glad ya didnt sell you crazy fool :D
no rush in perfection eh ;)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 10:47
Cheers guys, much appreciated  :cool:

i doubt id have sold it tbh, its been too much of a good car, i had the crazy idea of getting a ED30 / new S3 /Focus RS, which would have meant finance and thats something im not into also servicing costs etc, its not like you can rip those sorts of cars to bits on your drive is it, well not if you wanna keep the warranty and service book intact bla bla

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: lewis1641 on 13 January 2011, 11:09
Good luck with the conversion dude. 
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 11:14
thanks man  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Wayne on 13 January 2011, 11:19
Good luck with it  :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 11:22
cheers wayne, looking forward to it and i know Ben is itching to crack on with it too
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: robz on 13 January 2011, 11:32
yeah, ya cant sell that car, not creeping up your arse but it is one of the best ive seen!
plus i reckon you'd get bored of all those other cars!
will be brill with the 2.0 in!
are ya gonna kepp it oem look too? would look sweet!!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 11:49
ahh cheers  rob matey

still might go for the Bam yet, im on the fence with the 2, im thinking seen as its a hom made thing the 1.8t bam may be more straight forward (if i decide oem lool /ecu) if i go the qpeng way ill want the 2.0t i think

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: sharki786 on 13 January 2011, 11:53
its your car mate and take as long as you want. no1 is chipping in for you so you have all the right to take the p or do it qwuick. but like i say take your time and do it properly!!! and good luck with the build love to see it.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 13 January 2011, 11:57
Whats the deal with managing the injection on the fsi's then, can any old aftermarket ecu be used? I think the non turbo could be the 16v engine to go for in the future, ally block, decent head design etc
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Bellend on 13 January 2011, 12:16
Can't wait to see this. f**k what DH says. Yeah I wanna see it get done but I know its difficult taking a car off the road and as I've always said I appreciate the effort and result of your work. The car llooks amazing in the flesh although I've only seen it from the car. Credit where its due, it looks perfectly put together as if it just rolled out of the factory. That's what its all about in my eyes. :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 January 2011, 14:05
Can't wait to see this.

Nor can I.

But we're going to have to, maybe forever.  :grin:

When someone's family member has a little dog snapping at your kids, trying to attack them it's not really arrogance wanting them to f*ck off as soon as possible, is it now?

Especially not when they've wasted hours of your time and taken the p*ss.

At least I've met said child, don't believe you have - your opinions might change meeting him in the flesh.  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 14:23
cheers for the replys guys and goons (DH)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Sam on 13 January 2011, 16:51
So when is the engine going in? End of Feb?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 18:41
the car has to be off the road latest may, so i have till then to get all my bits, we have had a chat and decided the best route is gonna be 20 VT, i want factory management not qpeng, and this is main reason for going 20vt.

I have sopke to a guy from CGTI who makes up looms, he can do my loom as a plug and play using the factory ECU etc, although Ben (benvictors off here) is keen to just do this ourselves

Feel free to come give a hand pal, its deffo happening regardless of what certain forum members think  :rolleyes:

I have my mate with the S3 (who im not sure how reliable he is as he has let me down once) says i can have all the full running gear, if not im looking for a BAM or even a AGU, but i really want a £££££Bam with a Derv box

im exited and worried all at once but im sure it will come good
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 January 2011, 18:47
I have my mate with the S3 (who im not sure how reliable he is as he has let me down once)

Prepping for a FAIL already I see.  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 18:50
ill tell it how it is, already looking elsewhere yeah, either way, its happening. sorry !
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Toby on 13 January 2011, 19:33
hopefully, looking forard to this  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: benvictors on 13 January 2011, 21:53
the car has to be off the road latest may, so i have till then to get all my bits, we have had a chat and decided the best route is gonna be 20 VT, i want factory management not qpeng, and this is main reason for going 20vt.

I have sopke to a guy from CGTI who makes up looms, he can do my loom as a plug and play using the factory ECU etc, although Ben (benvictors off here) is keen to just do this ourselves
Feel free to come give a hand pal, its deffo happening regardless of what certain forum members think  :rolleyes:

I have my mate with the S3 (who im not sure how reliable he is as he has let me down once) says i can have all the full running gear, if not im looking for a BAM or even a AGU, but i really want a £££££Bam with a Derv box

im exited and worried all at once but im sure it will come good

we're doing it, end of!!! ha ha ha  :grin:
Im well excited about gettin stuck into this mate, you will feel alot better driving round in it knowing we did everything  :smug:

And make sure you are kettle trained by the time we come to do it, Dont make me come on here and bad mouth you  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 21:56
 :grin: :grin: :grin:

hahahahaha


good call mate im all over it, mite even treat you to a pot noodle :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: benvictors on 13 January 2011, 22:02
:grin: :grin: :grin:

hahahahaha


good call mate im all over it, mite even treat you to a pot noodle :laugh:

Whooaa, dont be spoiling me bruv  :shocked:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: robz on 13 January 2011, 22:05
:D
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: tech1889 on 13 January 2011, 22:11
I wouldnt put a big search in for a BAM 20VT as they are rare and because of this they are really really expensive... me personally i would get a AGU block and then either a BAM head or a AGU polished and ported head.. If you put a BAM head on a AGU there is no difference just will save a fortune..

AGU is a safe option all round.. fit the k03s or k04 turbo easy.. you have no VVT to worry about.. you have a lot less sensors than the AUM which are prone to go wrong which means less wiring.. and the AGU is a strong engine and i think the early ones had a larger ported head compared to the AUM not 100% on this though..

Sorry if you've spoke about this before i just didnt want to read all 60 odd pages  :smiley:

Also a good choice on engine there bud  :wink:

Dan
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 22:32
cheers matey, and yeah iv had alot of folk telling me to go that same route you mention

if im honest, im looking to get to 250hp max really, one of my better mates owns a turbo company, he says he can do me a hybrid set up for whatever i get, im not sure what sort of power id end up with on a AGU with hybrid ??
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Adam on 13 January 2011, 23:50
cheers matey, and yeah iv had alot of folk telling me to go that same route you mention

if im honest, im looking to get to 250hp max really, one of my better mates owns a turbo company, he says he can do me a hybrid set up for whatever i get, im not sure what sort of power id end up with on a AGU with hybrid ??

AGU or TFSI on QPENG
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: jonnypolish on 13 January 2011, 23:56
And make sure you are kettle trained by the time we come to do it, Dont make me come on here and bad mouth you  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Just make sure there's no willy dipping in the tea like Khare did to DH :D LOL!
I would be on making a trip from London to also lend a hand if Need be lads :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 09:43
cheers jonny matey  :cool:

Adam, do you think AGU ??

Really not sure i want Qpeng tbh
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 14 January 2011, 09:52
cheers jonny matey  :cool:

Adam, do you think AGU ??

Really not sure i want Qpeng tbh

Personally i'd avoid Qpeng, OEM management with knock sensor and diagnostic ftw  :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 10:25
my thoughts exactly and then i can also rock the remap i really want which is Superchips
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Rhyso on 14 January 2011, 10:30
my thoughts exactly and then i can also rock the remap i really want which is Superchips

Do they do an AGU hybrid turbo remap?  :undecided:  That sort of setup you ideally want setting up on a rolling road as each one varies slightly depending on the hardware used / installed
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Sam on 14 January 2011, 10:35
Was gonna say just had a look on there site and they don't seem to mention hybrid mapping, just £400 for a generic map which is pretty expensive. Even then it claims a gain of 37hp, taking the std engine to 187 which is pretty far off 250.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Rhyso on 14 January 2011, 10:37
Was gonna say just had a look on there site and they don't seem to mention hybrid mapping, just £400 for a generic map which is pretty expensive. Even then it claims a gain of 37hp, taking the std engine to 187 which is pretty far off 250.

Don't forget that's for the STANDARD AGU with the little KO3 turbo  :wink:  Most you'll ever see out of that with all the upgrades is 195bhp

For over 200bhp on an AGU you need KO3s, hybrid, KO4, GT28 etc etc
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Sam on 14 January 2011, 10:39
Oh yeh I know, but what im saying is that there is no mention of hybrid mapping as you said. Just mapping of a std engine
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 11:33
Not sure about the mapping side of it, but the only ones i like / have exp of are superchips and REVO so if i cant have superchips then its over to revo, Ill get well lane turbo centre to do it on the rollers, or their is a Revo / superchips dealer in Bradford and they have a rolling road too.
The last time i had my car chipped, well lane did it, they took the map off the car sent it to superchips, they did their thing and sent the new file back to well  lane, im not sure if this is the same with hybrid or not.
I really want the S3 lump APY or BAM, mite be cheaper to buy the whole car (seen them go for 3k) and take all the bits i need then sell the rest in bits to make some cash back
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Sam on 14 January 2011, 11:43
As far as Im aware hybrid mapping has to be done live then taken off, looked at, corrected and done again a few times to get it spot on cos all kinds of issues get thrown up.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 11:51
cheers for the heads up on this buddie, ill have to look into this :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 12:07
Caistor , iv spoke to my buddie who owns the turbo company, he said same re the mapping etc...   :wink:  he thinks i could see a extra 45 - 50 hp with the hybrid, what u think ?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Rhyso on 14 January 2011, 12:10
There's a couple of hybrid KO3's running around and I think they're producing approx 250-270bhp depending on the other hardware mods - turbo back exhaust, FMIC etc etc

If you're doing this, then spend the money and do it all properly i.e with a spec and hardware that you're going to be happy with  :smiley:

No point putting on a piddly turbo if then in 12 months time you're craving more power
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Sam on 14 January 2011, 12:18
Caistor , iv spoke to my buddie who owns the turbo company, he said same re the mapping etc...   :wink:  he thinks i could see a extra 45 - 50 hp with the hybrid, what u think ?

No idea, have you even decided what size turbo you are gonna run and what boost presures? Are you determined to hit 250bhp? I would reccomend a set up like mine that has two maps, so you have say a 200bhp setting and a 250bhp setting thats changed by simply flicking a switch.

I think you need to re-arrange the prioritys of the engine swap to be honest. Decide what engine you want to run and dont change your mind or you will start to f**k things up. Then the hard part is custom on top. What turbo? what pressures? what intercooler? is that cooler too laggy or not cooling enough? what size injectors? what engine managment? will that suit both the turbo and engine? ect ect
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 12:27
sorry buddie i failed to mention this is based on the S3 apy / Bam engine and K04 turbo, this is the one im really wanting to use, he calculated his sh!t on this turbo, and says he would rather do the work on it before the engine is installed to save ripping it all apart again

other than this i wanna keep everything standard as possible, i hear the compression of this engine is all good as are the injectors for what i want,  ? ? ?

intercoole riv already got size is length =  65CM approx and width is around the 7CM mark
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Sam on 14 January 2011, 12:34
Ok so its just mapping that needs sorting really, you and your mate need to sit down really and write a list out. Write it as if you are modding the audi to run at 250bhp. Will make things much simpler to work out in your head and think things through. The main problem for me when even thinking about running bigger power ect is that there is no base point as the car wasnt a turbo to start with so almost everything is custom. Which is a bit annoying
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 12:43
I hear you matey 100%, he even said ill need to sit down with him, he is even happy to talk to the mapping people and give them all the calculations of the work he will have carried out on the turbo

I cant speak good enough words of this guy, offers a great service, even the Leeds VW dealership use him as the mk 5/6 TDI turbos are apparently pants!! (BKD engine codes)

cheers once again for your helpfull comments
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Adam on 14 January 2011, 12:48
I know what your saying about QPENG, mapping them is a pain. Hope Nick dosnt mind but this is what he sent me regarding the MBE 922.

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The 992 ecu cannot be live mapped or traced as its the base unit (cheap one) the 992 offers direct mapping and logging, which mean running dyno run the real time data outputs can be read from the ecu and a log stored a bit like vagcom. When changes are needed to be made we can open up the correct map and make exact changes at points linked with tps/rpm of MAP/rpm the changes are made to the map area and then set to the ecu direct without turning the engine off, it takes around 15 secs from opening map to the affects changing the engine output.  Its a long wind way of mapping standalone ecu compared to OMEX where it can real time tace and emulate the eprom which means live map changes in real time.

I have mk1 golf in with ko3s and qpeng for mapping this week ( I will put pics on forum and rtech facebook tomorrow)  The stock map qpeng sent is piss poor IMO, the lower and of the TPS scale is wrong which causes a nasty bog down as the lightly press the gas.  So the first step is get the car running right and then map for power.   QPEng will give you the option to run a map sensor and closed loop boost control via the ecu, which aint worth the extra money, you best bet is to get a good electric boost controller to gain better boost control.  Its take around 3 to 4 days of on and off mapping the get it 100% due to AIT and coolant temp offset map which need setting up and testing at all temps.

The qpeng will only run closed loop lambda on idel so its a good idea to get a wideband air/fuel ratio gauge fitted to your dash.

Unless they are pulling something better ECU wise for the TFSI plug and play I would avoid the 922.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 12:51
chhers Adam matey :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: tech1889 on 14 January 2011, 12:55
Yer get the setup I mentioned put a k03s or a k03s hybrid and you will see 250 bhp.. I would use standard management it's easy and is more than good enough for what you want..

Qpeng is just fancy management lol.. Hybrid I would get custom map as generic hybrid maps are not the best from what I've read..
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 14 January 2011, 13:18
Qpeng is just fancy management lol

No, it's dumb-f*ck management which is only implemented by those too scared of the wiring involved in putting the OEM management into the transplanted car.

Basically any other after-market ECU and set up will be superior.

For the fantasy engine that's being bandied about you need to spend time on the rollers with a mapper, so it needs to be decided which ECU will be used at the point of choosing a mapper, as they all have their preferences, or just put OEM management on a tweaked motor and hope it can suck up the changes you make and accommodate it.

'sending off a map' to have it tweaked by a big name is just nonsense - they pour money into developing generic maps that run closer to key safety margins, using the standard motor and OEM ECU.  Mapping for anything away from OEM spec needs the car on the rollers, with the ability to change the map on the fly to suit the variables - this is all maths and figures, which is why Brad's struggling - he probably wants a 'seat of the pants' map that feels really exciting yet has no actual base in figures.

The spec to the mapper sounds like it'll be 'just turn it all up to 11'.  :grin:  So rock 'n' roll.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: lewis1641 on 14 January 2011, 14:00
this may be of interest to you.

my friend does remaps (generic and tweaked generic stuff, uses genius and kess ) but the bloke who does his programming is based in York and had a rolling road for custom maps. he is very experienced and i am sure he would do a great job on your car. pm me if you want his number
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 14:36
Lewis, wha tis his name ??

i had my swift GTI tuned in york and mapped, Alwyn kershaws it was called, bloody good place did wonders with my swift. Really knew their sh!t, itsd now been made into a car sales place and no tuning :cry:

Thomas, when they did the swift, they did use the rolling road loads to get the map right as non of the generic ones as you call them worked for my car, it was superchips that did it and it took them almost a full day to get it right. iv always used superchips and its never give me any hassle hence why id like to stick with a brand i trust ? is that such a issue ?

im no expert unlike you, im not really that bothered about been one either i just want a reliable 250 or HP as the car is a daily hack, not no track car etc
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 14:37
Yer get the setup I mentioned put a k03s or a k03s hybrid and you will see 250 bhp.. I would use standard management it's easy and is more than good enough for what you want..

Qpeng is just fancy management lol.. Hybrid I would get custom map as generic hybrid maps are not the best from what I've read..


yeah mate sound advice, cheers for that :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 16 January 2011, 15:22
May aswell add this little clip in here too, i took this for dom, as he now has magnex on his MK3

pretty poitless really seen as this engine is coming out soon, but here it is, revved to 2.5k ish, Magnex Cat back with no centre box on a 8v lump (maybe a usefull video for potential owners of magnex/centre box removal people)

P.S you can also hear the induction noise from the K&N 57i, and also the common and annoying rattle on the front heatsheld plus seen as it was pissing it down, you can hear that too :grin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0WyBujWKmU
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dazzawest1987 on 16 January 2011, 18:18
love your car mate, big fan of the porsche rims, :grin:
queston for you, how much did you pay for the pipe to replace the mid box? and where from, if you dont mind me asking.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 16 January 2011, 18:50
Cheers dude

It was a couple of year ago now bvut i think it was around the £75 mark, it is infact 304 st/st and my mate who owns a powerflow dealer did the work.. the car runs alot better without the middle box

but keep in mind some powerflow dealers are very shoddy 
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dazzawest1987 on 16 January 2011, 19:31
thought you were goin to say powerflow, and thats bout what i expected.
yea i've heard some are, theres one near where i work though and i know there good fortunately, used them before, so i'll go down there cheers mate
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 16 January 2011, 20:05
Thomas, when they did the swift, they did use the rolling road loads to get the map right as non of the generic ones as you call them worked for my car, it was superchips that did it and it took them almost a full day to get it right. iv always used superchips and its never give me any hassle hence why id like to stick with a brand i trust ? is that such a issue ?

im no expert unlike you, im not really that bothered about been one either i just want a reliable 250 or HP as the car is a daily hack, not no track car etc

It's not an issue of brand, it's finding a person who will work with whatever the ECU is to put a map together generated from the best parameters to deliver the right balance of power economy and reliability, arguably needed more on a 'daily hack' than a track car, as you can spend a LOT of time mapping the part-throttle areas of the map, to get them right.

Superchips dealers generally deliver remaps for standard engines, not custom-built maps.  When did you have the Swift mapped?  It's possible that today's Superchips is a lot different to the outfit that spent a day working up a custom map for your Swift.  Unless you know the person who's doing the mapping you're in danger of finding yourself sitting next to a bloke with a laptop who doesn't know his AFRs from his exhaust temps, but knows map A goes on engine code B, but is wearing a Superchips sweatshirt.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 16 January 2011, 20:58
I hear you, 100%

the swift was done in 1995, and they did bend over backward to get it right.  You have a very valid point, basicaslly the company is so big these days churning out the standard maps - they cant be arsed with a small fry like what ill need  -  this is what you mean ? 

i think im gonna have to agree if thats the case.

I may have to visit R-Tech or the REVO dealer  which is local to me (have rolling road)

cheers for imput :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Wayne on 16 January 2011, 21:35
My 2 pence's worth (which counts for nothing) but when it is all in and running go for a proper / custom remap.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 16 January 2011, 21:39
Yes Wayne mate, seems this is the way to go  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 17 January 2011, 17:23
Car has been totally Dodo Juiced, used my spin doctor, plus a load of other goodies i have and its looking MINT!!!  even tho its still in winter mode. PORSCHE rims are going back on end of February

check out the paint - all original 1993

(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6002/imageheb.jpg)

 :cool:

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 17 January 2011, 17:51
Pretty damn shiny Kells, I wish my paintwork was that good! :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 17 January 2011, 18:01
cheers matey, i have put a hell of a lot of time into it

Next up Bens red one, which is in need of some TLC, so ill make sure i get before and after shots of his (think yours is same colour)
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Post by: dom on 17 January 2011, 18:26
cheers matey, i have put a hell of a lot of time into it

Next up Bens red one, which is in need of some TLC, so ill make sure i get before and after shots of his (think yours is same colour)

Yeah do it! I'm pretty sure mines the same colour  :smiley:
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Post by: Dmonday on 17 January 2011, 18:30
Awesome, would love to have paint like that :afro:

Dan
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 17 January 2011, 18:33
Awesome, would love to have paint like that :afro:

Dan
Mine is was like that!.............. Good job, very shiny, but then isn't it always?
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Post by: F17BAD on 17 January 2011, 18:47
Hehe, yeah i keep it well at all times, washed at least once a week come rain or shine, i never let the dirt build up.

Iv spent hours on this car, got all the swirls out with my new dodo juice spin doctor, bloody awesome bit of kit but not for the kids LOL, can be dangerous in the wrong hannds :evil: and according to detailing world, Flat black is the hardest to work on, so im Very happy with my work

i really wish i had good pics of the day i bought this car - it looked fooked, unloved and ready to be broken...paint looked so bad i actually thought it was metalic black till i did my first polish on it hahaha.  it was originally only purchased as a daily drive and pool car for my Club events.. but the OCD took over  :kiss:

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Post by: Wayne on 17 January 2011, 20:42
Awesome work :afro:
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Post by: benvictors on 17 January 2011, 22:28
cheers matey, i have put a hell of a lot of time into it

Next up Bens red one, which is in need of some TLC, so ill make sure i get before and after shots of his (think yours is same colour)

WOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!  :grin: :grin: :laugh: :laugh: :wink:
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Post by: robz on 18 January 2011, 09:34
jealous mate, my paint is awful!!
needs all the swirls getting out :(
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 January 2011, 09:53
Cheers :cool:

would pop a pick up of the whole car - but its still in winter mode with Standard GTI rims on it  :grin:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 18 January 2011, 11:01
Cheers :cool:

would pop a pick up of the whole car - but its still in winter mode with Standard GTI rims on it  :grin:

So?  If I thought like that there would be no pictures of my car on here whatsoever.
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 January 2011, 11:12
Well, its a bit of a common sight seeing a MK3 on standard rims, where as you are doing a build up thread which for me, is a lot different, your thread is like a lil flower waiting to blossom  :grin:

here you go then, Full dodo juiced up, and In wintermode on its standard rims, think ill put the Porsche rims back on late February - really missing them, arches look so gay with them been modified to accomodate the larger rim/adapters plus the handling is no way near as good on these Longbeach

(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5558/imagegli.jpg)

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Post by: F17BAD on 18 January 2011, 11:18
Here is a couple others i took at the same time

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/305/imageuq.jpg)

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3445/imagefcal.jpg)



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Post by: Wayne on 18 January 2011, 11:47
Looks ok on the longbeech alloys  :smiley:

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Post by: F17BAD on 18 January 2011, 11:52
hehe cheers wayne, it would be better if it had spacers on (rear mostly) as the modifications we made to them (which look factory when iv got the Porsche rims on) make the standard rims look lost, the pictures kind of hide this, but yeah looks ok - just a lil ghay :grin:  not long to go now till i put the D90's back on and id rahter not risk any damage to those seen as i just spent a fortune getting them refurbed afther the incident with the sainsbury truck a few month back
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Post by: dom on 18 January 2011, 12:27

(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5558/imagegli.jpg)



Wow! :shocked:

Depending on how Ben's turns out I may have to buy a dodojuice MP myself! (and learn how to use it of course :laugh:)
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 January 2011, 12:43
She has come out really well, im very pleased with it, look forward to getting my hands on that red paint of bens, will be using dodo products on his car too amongst other things.. he is gonna be a very lucky boy  :grin:  but he helps me all the time at the drop of a hat with parts of the car he was breaking so fair is fair and all that malarky :cool:


bring on the Red  :grin:
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 18 January 2011, 12:55
Joining the Longbeach crew for the winter then kells? I will probably stick my TT wheels on after I've resprayed (satin) the car, save getting them messy...you never know.  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 January 2011, 14:01
Joining the Longbeach crew for the winter then kells? I will probably stick my TT wheels on after I've resprayed (satin) the car, save getting them messy...you never know.  :grin:

Yes mate haha, iv had them on since end of November, was not prepaired to risk my precious (to me) D90's in all the snow we had, and im glad i made the decision as we have had some bad snow up these parts :cry:

And yeah mate, deffo dont put ya polished ones on till their is ZERO salt on the roads, make sure u keep them fully waxed up at all times too :cool:
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Post by: Rhyso on 19 January 2011, 10:05
Full correction detail is one of THE best things you can do for a car

Looks sweet  :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 January 2011, 10:57
Full correction detail is one of THE best things you can do for a car

Looks sweet  :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Cheers matey,
Agree 100%, really rewarding especially on such a old car (19 years old in august :shocked:)
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Post by: Rhyso on 19 January 2011, 11:02
Full correction detail is one of THE best things you can do for a car

Looks sweet  :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Cheers matey,
Agree 100%, really rewarding especially on such a old car (19 years old in august :shocked:)

Certainly adds value to any car IMO  :smiley:

Had the MK4 and the Audi done and the transformation always staggers me; especially on the MK4 as it had never been done. 
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 January 2011, 12:07
yes for sure, Car gets A LOT of looks too  :cool:

iv just done a quick detail on a friends Audi - just like yours actually, they are a big car (sportback) take longer to do :laugh:
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Post by: Dec on 24 January 2011, 13:31
Mine needs detailing, but would probably benefit from a full respray :sad:
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Post by: Toby on 24 January 2011, 19:33
that looks soooo sexy!! i need me some!! i have a red mk4.. and i polished it at the weekend, but by the looks of it its worth the investment!!
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Post by: Mikester on 24 January 2011, 21:59
Lack of:

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j197/lowlifebronze/international008.jpg)
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Post by: Toby on 24 January 2011, 22:00
Lack of:

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j197/lowlifebronze/international008.jpg)

that is sweeeeeeeeet!

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Post by: F17BAD on 25 January 2011, 15:22
If thats the Mk3 i think it is, MJ did the seats in it, sweet ride

Cannot wait to get my engine in..

also rebuilding my swift GTI - back to its original colour etc.. OLDSKOOL IS COOL  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 January 2011, 22:32
No pics, but just put the Porsche rims back on today...wont be too long till car is taken off the road now for its all new lease of life   :cool:
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Post by: Toby on 31 January 2011, 22:35
No pics, but just put the Porsche rims back on today...wont be too long till car is taken off the road now for its all new lease of life   :cool:

"like"
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Post by: Bellend on 31 January 2011, 23:04
 :cool:

I think you should get on this group buy for dials.

Get the OEM backlit ones in either blue or white, this car seriousy deserves them.  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 January 2011, 23:12
cheers buddie, Are thise the ones @ £65 large ones??  look pretty fly but i really love my dials that iv modded tho.

And also its worth mentioning i may be running the S3 dials with the conversion. We will see as iv not yet decided which way to go yet. either way whatever happens it will be good  :cool: :wink:
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Post by: Dec on 01 February 2011, 12:23
If thats the Mk3 i think it is, MJ did the seats in it, sweet ride

Cannot wait to get my engine in..

also rebuilding my swift GTI - back to its original colour etc.. OLDSKOOL IS COOL  :cool:

Like the sound of that, my mates (who done that sticker for you) just got his swift back on the road ready for a few RWYB days over the summer :cool: Was off the road for 6 months needing a cambelt/waterpump change but put some lightened pullys or something like that on, and a bigger throttle body, just waiting on Cams for it now :)
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Post by: Adam on 01 February 2011, 12:28
A mate of mine is selling his white Swift GTi. They do shift!

Come on kells do hurry up on the conversion.
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 February 2011, 12:50
yeah the swifts are great cars, she fired right up first time the other day - its been off the road stored since 2004 -2005,

This was the engine running first time in a long time!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6e1S_jA6x0

 it has a whole host of engine mods and is close to 150hp mark - very, very rapid




And yes Adam - not long now  :cool:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 02 February 2011, 13:58
Lack of:

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j197/lowlifebronze/international008.jpg)

Made up by a glut of:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/diamondhell/bulls.jpg)

 :grin:
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Post by: robz on 02 February 2011, 14:05
picture fail :D
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Post by: F17BAD on 02 February 2011, 17:27
picture fail :D


 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Thomas mi old bean, if your gonna be your usual thingyish self then at least learn how to upload a picture correctly.
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Post by: Mikester on 02 February 2011, 17:29
I stand by my lack of post. Will this thread get to 200 pages with still just talk of this turbo?
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Post by: F17BAD on 02 February 2011, 17:45
who cares ??  apart from thomas. Car comes off road at the latest, in May.. as iv already said previoulsy.

patience is a virtue
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Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 02 February 2011, 22:19
Wasn't the second picture supposed to be blank?  :grin:
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Post by: dom on 02 February 2011, 22:31
Wasn't the second picture supposed to be blank?  :grin:

Nope, swear filter changed the URL.

http://oldcatman.blogspot.com/bullsh!t-lg%202.jpg

but change the "!" to "i"

I'm warning you though, it's not a pretty image!
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 03 February 2011, 12:50
There, fixed, because the most significant thing happening in this thread, or to this car is someone getting a picture URL wrong.

Brad Kells - LPP
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Post by: Len on 03 February 2011, 12:53
I wouldnt lower myself to even acknowledge DH if I were you Brad, he is just so full of sh!t himself he thinks everybody else is the same.
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Post by: robz on 03 February 2011, 15:15
:D
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Post by: lemski on 03 February 2011, 15:19
Lol. Can't wait to see this engine go in
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Post by: robz on 03 February 2011, 15:50
Neither can I!!
We beleive kells :D
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Post by: lemski on 03 February 2011, 16:55
Yeh it will go in. He lives in yorkshire any thing is possible :D
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 03 February 2011, 16:57
Awwww, Len you shouldn't :kiss:
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Post by: F17BAD on 03 February 2011, 18:07
I wouldnt lower myself to even acknowledge DH if I were you Brad, he is just so full of sh!t himself he thinks everybody else is the same.

yeah so true, those members of this site that are not bum lickers alsio know this..

And yes it will be happy days once the engine goes in - not long now till the work begins. I will get loads of pics for those people that would rather hate than participate ;-)

Today i have lowered the car a tad more - to do this I have flaired the arches at my mates bodyshop slightly more.
The car handles even better now!!  didnt expect that  :smiley:, rear 1cm from the bottom thread and the front is around 2.5, these coilovers go to -120mm
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Post by: Khare on 03 February 2011, 20:58
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! Man, I could eat of that engine, it is soooooo clean!
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 04 February 2011, 10:04
I look forward to seeing the BAM go in. Wheels aren't my favourite but the rest of the car is top dollar.  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 17:02
A few snaps of latest ride height

(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8688/imagegrb.jpg)

(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/697/imagepda.jpg)

(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5343/imagelqo.jpg)

(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/406/imageyk.jpg)

(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7017/modsk.jpg)

and next to bens

(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/7828/imagevl.jpg)
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Post by: Toby on 06 February 2011, 17:05
my fave mk3 :D   :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 17:06
cheers buddie  :cool: :cool:
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Post by: lemski on 06 February 2011, 17:06
what tyres you got on front
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 17:09
same as on rear - yokohama S drive 195-45-16 with heavily mdifoed arches rto suite the drop, which is around the 100mm mark
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Post by: lemski on 06 February 2011, 17:26
not too bad that mate, will be awesome when that new engine is in. you got any idea of what parts are needed for the conversion
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 17:31
yeah mate iv got my shopping list at the ready - some parts already got  :cool:
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Post by: lemski on 06 February 2011, 19:29
ahhh good stuff, like to see people prove other people wrong. world doesnt need haters in it
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Post by: robz on 06 February 2011, 19:30
like!
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Post by: Wayne on 06 February 2011, 19:31
Looking good Brad :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 19:59
Looking good Brad :afro:

cheers pal, and Rob ;-)
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Post by: Jimp on 06 February 2011, 22:25
They colour of the wheels really pops in the last pic  :cool: Good stuff man :afro:
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Post by: Bellend on 06 February 2011, 22:30
Looking amazing.  :cool:

Maybe raise the rear 5mm?
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 22:35
thanks man :wink:

Regarding the drop: I wanna keep it as it is - i really dont like the rear higher than the front look, im going for a 90's stance look, level drop. iMO looks more mean  :evil:

jimp the rims have a special paint, they change depending on the lighting  :cool:
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Post by: Bellend on 06 February 2011, 22:45
Fair enough.  :cool:

I hate the pictures cause I think mine looks pretty clean then I look at that.  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 22:50
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

takes alot to keep a black car looking fresh mate.. im working on Bens red one at the moment getting his back to its original red!
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Post by: Mikester on 06 February 2011, 22:59
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

takes alot to keep a black car looking fresh mate..

+1 Your not wrong.
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 23:00
they look amazing tho once clean - but yeah takes some love to keep them looking fresh  :grin:
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Post by: Mikester on 06 February 2011, 23:04
Yeah, love a black car. Only problem is stone chips etc. The front bumper of my car is basically white as it the bonnet edge, big problem as its such a wedge shape.

Dont miss blackening all that trim though on the mk3!!!
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Post by: Bellend on 06 February 2011, 23:07
Mystic blue is bad enough, had it all looking finally after 10 hours of JUST light polishing and waxing looking really glossy and really deep shine looked nice then it got dark and looked deeper but the swirls and marks where "mates" had drawn in the dirt on my fresh painted bonnet were horrible.  :cry:
 :cry:

Need to get an orbital and some decent pads.  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 23:16
yeah mate mine was like that when i bought it, i actually thought i had got a metalic black one hahaha, its took me ages to get it so im happy - but the paint is all original 1993  :cool:

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Post by: Dec on 07 February 2011, 12:23
Mine looks better when its dirty :grin:

Covers up all the scrapes and chips. Also covers up the swirl marks too :cry: :tongue:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 07 February 2011, 14:01
Mine looks better when its dirty :grin:

Covers up all the scrapes and chips. Also covers up the swirl marks too :cry: :tongue:

And demonstrates you're not LPP.  :grin:
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Post by: Dec on 07 February 2011, 14:08
 :embarassed: Haven't come accross LPP before, whats it mean? :smiley: :undecided:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 07 February 2011, 14:11
Legendary Polishing Poseur.
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Post by: Dec on 07 February 2011, 14:13
 :laugh: Fair enough! If I weren't doing so many miles, then I would care a bit more, but its impossible to keep mine looking nice when doing 500 miles a week :sad:

Not impossible, but I don't get time to wash it once a day/every two days
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 February 2011, 15:14
Do mine once a week mate thats all it takes, in the week mine gets filthy - its used as much as yours almost.

Once you have removed all the swirls you only have to get a good technique to prevent or reduce the chance of swirls and marring of the paint. I know the audi paint is crap, just like the paint on the new VW's. mine is also very soft and can mark easily. As i say i just spend a couple of hours every sunday giving it the once over :smiley:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 08 February 2011, 23:03
Looks BANG on point mate!!
Soooooo cleannnnnn!
I actually cant wait to see it in the flesh again! Just had mine detailed too, but it still doesnt look that fresh :'(
You're such a cleaning pervert :D wish i had the time/skill to get to that state!

Great work man :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 February 2011, 23:09
hahahaha, "Cleaning pervert" haha, gotta be done - it gets a alot of compliments from joe public...

was almost written off by some young twerp in a fiesta earlier who decided to fly round a corner too fast crossing over to my side of the road - also giving the 2 finger wave and slowed down as tho he wanted a fight. He had the shock of his life when i (un known to him) double backed round the block and ended up coming towards him.  Gave huge Verbal Abuse - Standard  whilst he sat in his car with the doors locked hahaha.. spotty little runt


be good to catch up with you again mate :cool:

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Post by: benvictors on 08 February 2011, 23:14
Stop bullying the young uns Brad  :wink:
No more little white chips on my bonnet after waxing it last nite, but sh!t loads from yesterday  :cry: Think its defo grit off the road  :angry:
You fancy going to that RR day over at Manc in April mush??
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 February 2011, 23:17
Stop bullying the young uns Brad  :wink:
No more little white chips on my bonnet after waxing it last nite, but sh!t loads from yesterday  :cry: Think its defo grit off the road  :angry:
You fancy going to that RR day over at Manc in April mush??

i fancy it yeah - but wish it was later when i had the new engine in  :sad: :embarassed:whats the date of it ??   Hmmmmmm
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Post by: benvictors on 08 February 2011, 23:20
16th bud, think we could get it in before there  :shocked: :shocked:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 February 2011, 23:25
16th bud, think we could get it in before there  :shocked: :shocked:


its a posibility - i do have Luvley on at mungo on that date too tho, so i need to keep this in mind too
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Post by: benvictors on 08 February 2011, 23:30
I'd wanna be back around teatime anyhow bud, thats only 8 weeks to get everything and do the conversion tho   :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 February 2011, 23:33
i know mate - might be pushing it haha, not sure id wanna bother putting it on the rollers with the 8v lump :laugh: not even sure it will fit on them with it been so low, its usually the sill area that causes problems
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Post by: benvictors on 08 February 2011, 23:38
I wont be going on the rollers either, would just be good to show off the cars  :cool: Yours looks sweet and mine hopefully wont be far behind by then  :grin:
Mite go on the rollers just for a laugh   :laugh: :shocked: :laugh:
PLUS, its for a very good cause  :smiley:
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Post by: dom on 08 February 2011, 23:45
I wont be going on the rollers either, would just be good to show off the cars  :cool: Yours looks sweet and mine hopefully wont be far behind by then  :grin:
Mite go on the rollers just for a laugh   :laugh: :shocked: :laugh:
PLUS, its for a very good cause  :smiley:

Do it! As Ben says, even if you don't go on the rollers it should be a good day! :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 February 2011, 00:04
Yeah deffo sounds good I'll see, if the car is on the road I'll bring it if not I'll ride with ben :-)
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 March 2011, 18:40
Random pic after giving it a clean earlier...

(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/8788/imagevtg.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 01 March 2011, 19:19
Did you use the Magifoam?
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 March 2011, 19:33
I used the super snow foam mate, got a real good foam, left it 10 mins to dwel then hit it with a 2 bucket wash.
I then pat it dry followed by a coat of dodo Juice PH, (machined it, sealed it and waxed it 4 weeks ago so this was just a top up

Foam wise im going to go down the Cherry snow foam route mate
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Post by: Dmonday on 01 March 2011, 19:35
Fresssssh :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 March 2011, 19:37
cheers Dan - sad news about yours, whats the plan car wise ??  what about that 5 door we spoke about the other weekend ??
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Post by: Dmonday on 01 March 2011, 19:49
cheers Dan - sad news about yours, whats the plan car wise ??  what about that 5 door we spoke about the other weekend ??

Will talk to you on facebook about what im thinking dude :)
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 March 2011, 20:20
cheers Dan - sad news about yours, whats the plan car wise ??  what about that 5 door we spoke about the other weekend ??

Will talk to you on facebook about what im thinking dude :)

ok pal :-)
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Post by: dom on 01 March 2011, 20:30
cheers Dan - sad news about yours, whats the plan car wise ??  what about that 5 door we spoke about the other weekend ??

Will talk to you on facebook about what im thinking dude :)

Hit me up with the info as well Dan :wink:
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Post by: CCGTI on 31 March 2011, 09:01
was looking good last night mate, pictures dont do it justice
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 March 2011, 12:26
cheers pal, good to meet you finally mate. will no doubt see you with ben again soon  :wink:

Was a decent little meet that, Car was well received by people so thats always nice  :cool:
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Post by: CCGTI on 31 March 2011, 13:10
interior and wheels really stud out for me mate, some nice stretch on the D90's
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 March 2011, 14:06
thanks mate.. :cool:

Here is a pic of the latest (small) addition to the car..  not long to go now till i take this off the road for its whole new lease of life (New Heart)

anyhow, got this, MK 3.5 cabbie handbreak lever. really suits my interior

Not the best of pics due to gail force 50 wind

(http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/4787/imagenn.jpg) (http://img861.imageshack.us/i/imagenn.jpg/)

(http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/789/imagejkt.jpg) (http://img816.imageshack.us/i/imagejkt.jpg/)

Also got a sunglasses case that fits in the roofliner for my shades, ill get some pics when this arrives. next update now is gonna be probably the engine work..
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Post by: tech1889 on 31 March 2011, 16:32
didnt know your interior was that nice kells i love it lol
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 31 March 2011, 17:37
Does look cosy in there.  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 March 2011, 17:40
cheers guys, its prob the best bit of the car ful MJ Interiors retrim in nappa on Genuine Recaros, carbon heating etc
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Post by: tech1889 on 31 March 2011, 17:41
bloody hell that musta set you back lol
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 March 2011, 17:46
its worth quite a bit mate yea.

Try to keep everything on the car high quality without it looking OTT

(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4414/imagexhb.jpg)
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Post by: golf-sib on 31 March 2011, 17:51
Looks spot on mate, I generally hate mk3oats but I love your one!
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 March 2011, 17:52
cheers buddy  :cool:
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Post by: Khare on 31 March 2011, 17:55
So where did you manage to find a VW dealership that sells brand new Mk3's then?  :huh: :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 March 2011, 17:57
hahaha, many many hours of cleaning  :laugh:
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Post by: CCGTI on 31 March 2011, 18:02
Looks spot on mate, I generally hate mk3oats but I love your one!

best golf around the old mk3, better looking than its younger and fatter mk4 sister
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Post by: golf-sib on 31 March 2011, 18:05
Looks spot on mate, I generally hate mk3oats but I love your one!

best golf around the old mk3, better looking than its younger and fatter mk4 sister

 :grin: VW now make additional parts for the mk3, carbon fiber oars  :lipsrsealed: I'm going to get my coat...
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 31 March 2011, 18:40
Looks spot on mate, I generally hate mk3oats but I love your one!

best golf around the old mk3, better looking than its younger and fatter mk4 sister

Wouldn't go that far. What about their even thinner older sisters?  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 March 2011, 18:58
Well im not that fussy, i love em all and iv had most of them too, although never had a mk1, but always loved them..

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Post by: SoundillusioN on 31 March 2011, 19:38
Well im not that fussy, i love em all and iv had most of them too, although never had a mk1, but always loved them..



You won't like mine, it's no beauty queen, its a bit simple too.  :grin:
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Post by: CCGTI on 31 March 2011, 23:03
Looks spot on mate, I generally hate mk3oats but I love your one!

best golf around the old mk3, better looking than its younger and fatter mk4 sister

Wouldn't go that far. What about their even thinner older sisters?  :cool:

dont get me wrong 4 5 and 6 generation have there perks but they are all to fat as hot hatches, alot of people slag the old mk3 off but it no bigger than the mk2 and it has the right balance of new skool/old skool styling
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 May 2011, 20:49
BAM ENGINE HAS BEEN PURCHESED

BAD BOI

 :evil:
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Post by: dom on 06 May 2011, 20:58
BAM ENGINE HAS BEEN PURCHESED

BAD BOI

 :evil:

Nice! When's the conversion starting? :evil:
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Post by: lemski on 06 May 2011, 21:05
Yeh boi. Whens this kickin off. Gunna be awesome to see unfold
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 May 2011, 21:09
in about a month it will start, well end off this month, engine only done 35k too :drool:

Can Not Fookin Wait, this car is crying out for this lump
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Post by: lemski on 06 May 2011, 21:11
Gunna be a reet sleeper
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 May 2011, 21:15
yes mate deffo is, a few people are gonna get a shock next time they see this car at the lights and think its a ghay 8v...  :evil: :evil:

running it on Factory ECU so it will be getting mapped right away too
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Post by: lemski on 06 May 2011, 21:20
If i had the money i'd have a bam in my mk2 just to see people faces as it fcuks off into the distance.
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 May 2011, 21:25
almost bought a AUQ from a VRS but na, it had to be the BAM, its the one i always wanted.. and at this mileage it had to be done.. was not cheap but it will be worth it
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Post by: Wayne on 06 May 2011, 21:28
AUQ would still be a good choice  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 May 2011, 21:33
wayne, ypou are right it was my second choice and a close one at that, almost went for one on ED38, (nice car u have their btw)  i dont get on here much lately due to alot of personal problems and also because im very busy with my events and other sh!t

but i said id do this conversion to this car with a BAM and people on here doubted that.. so here i am following it thru..as ever sticking to my word

 :cool:
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Post by: Wayne on 06 May 2011, 21:35
wayne, ypou are right it was my second choice and a close one at that, almost went for one on ED38, (nice car u have their btw) 
 :cool:

No probs and thanks, well pleased with it so far, 180bhp is good fun even in a bigger car  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 May 2011, 21:42
yes i thought he 180 was a good base, the one i was looking at had a K04 on it tho, so would have been bang on tbh.. but u know i always wanted a BAM.. and thats what iv got, one of the very last ones too
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Post by: Jimp on 07 May 2011, 15:09
Best of luck with the conversion man :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 May 2011, 19:38
cheers dude
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Post by: dazzawest1987 on 07 May 2011, 23:10
You doing the conversion yourself kells?
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Post by: Toby on 07 May 2011, 23:13
lookin forward to this  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 May 2011, 01:18
doing it myself yes, me and Ben victors off here are gonna make this bad boi come alive.. gonna be good..   :cool:
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Post by: Jack3559 on 08 May 2011, 01:31
Got any plans for the engine bay?
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 May 2011, 01:35
just want a OEM look matey, noting pretenteous or owt silly, standard looking tidy OEM as tho this is how it left the factory
although might polish a few bits or powdercoat etc

car is my daily ride and its not seeing any filler etc or hiding wires and sh!t like that.. been here before and had the T shirt

OEM look is the best way to be (for me)

engine going in on factory management and having remap.. i cant explain how much im looking forward to this. just got a few little bits to get and away we go, will be back end of month and jopefully habe it done in a week  :undecided: :tongue: :laugh: :cool: we will see haha
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Post by: tdi_blu on 08 May 2011, 08:04
Good luck with the conversion Kell will be a awsome ride once shes all done plus it shuts the haters up  :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 May 2011, 11:16
Good luck with the conversion Kell will be a awsome ride once shes all done plus it shuts the haters up  :wink:

cheers bro..

and yeah. haha, feel the love on this thread haha. people will always find something to hate but hey ho.

will get plenty of pics and videos on here of the conversion for those whjo are interested
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Post by: benvictors on 08 May 2011, 11:33
Looking forward to this mateeeeee  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Think im as giddy as you are about it  :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 May 2011, 11:35
yes pal, its gonna be a good do.. can not wait mate!!

*told you id take the car off the road by May didnt i hehe
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Post by: benvictors on 08 May 2011, 11:48
yes pal, its gonna be a good do.. can not wait mate!!

*told you id take the car off the road by May didnt i hehe

True to your word are kid  :wink: :cool:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 May 2011, 16:46
*told you id take the car off the road by May didnt i hehe

Is the 8V motor out?

Is the car off the road?

You've bought an engine.

That's not an engine conversion, that's buying some parts.

As for timescales, remind me when you started blathering on about putting a 20VT in it?

This could run aground yet.
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Post by: jonnypolish on 08 May 2011, 16:57
I'm so happy for you brother!!
A long time in the pipeline!
I think after my trip to the ring a visit to Leeds will be in order  :cool:
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Post by: tdi_blu on 08 May 2011, 17:09
*told you id take the car off the road by May didnt i hehe

Is the 8V motor out?

Is the car off the road?

You've bought an engine.

That's not an engine conversion, that's buying some parts.

As for timescales, remind me when you started blathering on about putting a 20VT in it?

This could run aground yet.

I knew the hater would be round soon enough  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 May 2011, 17:12
yes mate, you should come up on the weekend of the 28th of this month, thier is a party going off mate.. Wink wink.. will add you to a certain private group on FB

the engine will be out by this time too thomas fella.. blew more than id have liked to on the set up i have got but its well worth it to me because the miles on the engine is the lowest iv seen... but cheers for the hate, wouldnt expect any less on this forum whaha
BTW, i dint realise i said it was a race, as far as i remember, i could be wrong but i am sure i said i would be taking the car off the road in May...  its May now..   :wink:



Blu - haha yea so predictable aint it
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Post by: Wayne on 08 May 2011, 20:30
Good luck with it Brad  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 May 2011, 20:35
thanks Wayne mate  :wink:
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Post by: robz on 09 May 2011, 14:24
cant wait for this dude!!
good luck with it all ;)
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 May 2011, 14:43
cheers bro

Original engine / Gearbox set up now For Sale

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=192198.0
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Post by: tshirt2k on 09 May 2011, 14:50
Good luck with the "conversion" mate.:afro: I'm sure it was just the topic to get the green hater going.
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 May 2011, 15:17
hehe cheers matey, itching to get at this, engine should arrive at mine on the weekend, give it a quick dust down, Turbo off to my mate to be checked over altho he says it will be fine at the mileage its done  (still worth lookin while the engine is out tho)

A few bits still to get then me and ben are on with it, cant wait.. 

f**k the haters..   :grin:
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Post by: dom on 09 May 2011, 15:18
hehe cheers matey, itching to get at this, engine should arrive at mine on the weekend, give it a quick dust down, Turbo off to my mate to be checked over altho he says it will be fine at the mileage its done  (still worth lookin while the engine is out tho)

A few bits still to get then me and ben are on with it, cant wait.. 

f**k the haters..   :grin:

Good luck with it :afro:

Make sure you take lots of pics of it in progress, everyone loves pics :wink:
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Post by: Jack3559 on 09 May 2011, 15:20
More pics = More man points.
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Post by: robz on 09 May 2011, 15:26
More pics = More man points.

Equals more man love :D
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 May 2011, 15:29
lots of pics and vids will be taken.. this is a must for me too, and i know ben feels the same  :cool:
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Post by: jamrock on 09 May 2011, 17:03
good luck with the swap kells!!

if the engine is a low mile unit then should be no problem with it. getting the turbo checked whilst its off is a good move.

bespoke division is doing an S3 swap too, looks like its way forward  :cool:
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Post by: Dmonday on 09 May 2011, 18:01
Siccccck :) good to see this started dude! We need updates :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 May 2011, 18:04
Danny mate their will be loads of them, we will bring the car over to you once its complete too  :cool:
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Post by: Dmonday on 09 May 2011, 20:14
Danny mate their will be loads of them, we will bring the car over to you once its complete too  :cool:

Haha siccck :) f**k haters man. Get this done, will be sweet!
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 May 2011, 20:18
gonna be just like the number plate mate.. Bad Boii   :evil:

Lookin for a cheap fooked valver, willing to pay upto £350 if anybody knows of one ?
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Post by: dom on 09 May 2011, 20:25
gonna be just like the number plate mate.. Bad Boii   :evil:

Lookin for a cheap fooked valver, willing to pay upto £350 if anybody knows of one ?

That just for the clutch/gearbox setup? If so:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=190622.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=190622.0)

And flog the rest :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 May 2011, 20:28
cheers mate, bit long in the tooth although i plan to rebuild it anyhow so will give it thought
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 May 2011, 22:47
A mk3 16v GTI has now been purcased (many thanks Stu) for some bits i need for my conversion.

really is too good to break as the shell is one of the best iv seen!!!!!  very very suprised and even tho it has suspect head gasket fail, it drives great, oil is in the coolent expansion bottle but the oil in the engine looks fine.
 Here is link for the car, i paid £250 for her and love it haha.. gearbox is sweet as a nut and theirs some other bits i want off this for mine. Hell it even has a rare engine undercover like mine and a rear under cover which iv never ever seen before plus twin rad fans etc...

 Think im gonna get it back on the road later down the line tho as it really is too good to break and i think i can get her looking really nice.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=159239.0

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5519/imagehpc.jpg)
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Post by: dom on 10 May 2011, 22:49
Look how high it is compared to Ben's :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 May 2011, 22:51
not gonna lie i was feeling sick all the way home haha forgot just how high they are as standard hahahaha

she moves well tho
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Post by: robiwill on 10 May 2011, 22:54
try changing the oil cooler common on a 16v for failing and most mistake it for a failed headgasket worth a try
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 May 2011, 22:57
try changing the oil cooler common on a 16v for failing and most mistake it for a failed headgasket worth a try

cheers for this info - really good example of a mk3 so would be great to keep her alive - my mate really wants to buy it from me
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Post by: dom on 10 May 2011, 22:58
not gonna lie i was feeling sea sick all the way home haha forgot just how high they are as standard hahahaha

she moves well tho

Added a little bit for you :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 May 2011, 23:01
i was gonna put that haha
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Post by: benvictors on 10 May 2011, 23:05
Hi, said it might be the oil cooler sunbeam  :wink:
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Post by: Wayne on 10 May 2011, 23:24
Bypass the cooler, flush the cooling system through and see if the oil comes back.
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 May 2011, 23:50
How do I do this ?

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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 11 May 2011, 00:18
Bargain.

Just disconnect both pipes from the oil cooler and bridge them with some copper tubing and jubilee clips or similar and refill the coolant and run it mate.
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 May 2011, 10:32
cheers mate gonna try this out..

really like the car, gonna rob the bits i need for my conversion and then replace them and kee her on the road when i have more time, as i have 2 people interested in buying it
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Post by: CCGTI on 11 May 2011, 18:09
looks a good car for 250 mate
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 May 2011, 20:13
its really good mate

F17BAD needs the gearbox, gear shift mech and twin rad fans out of this car but im
gonna fit gearbox, fly and new clutch that is all in my 8v into this. and fix the issue it has with the oil cooler

(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7231/imageqdn.jpg)

(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/815/imagexof.jpg)
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Post by: CCGTI on 11 May 2011, 20:35
good luck with conversion as well, should sound sexy when its all fitted
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 May 2011, 20:50
Shady, chris and any other tw4t that bums each other on here and has nothing better to do with their time other than make sly comments will be pleased to know the black car comes off the road this weekend and the work starts for its whole new lease of life

need the car back on the road ASAP, hope to have the green one sorted to use while we do the black one  :cool:



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Post by: snifferdog on 11 May 2011, 21:00
Good stuff! I'll be checkin this thread out a bit more now!!

Also, my mate had the oil cooler problem on his Peugeot, turned out to be the headgasket.  :grin: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 May 2011, 21:09
hahaha no way!!  well we will see, iv been offered 800 for the car as it is !!  really wanna use it for a few weeks if i can tho
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Post by: Bellend on 11 May 2011, 21:11
Your car is looking amazing. I'm truely jealous, especially of the time you have to keep it clean.  :tongue:

One tiny thing I'm not keen on though, is the shortened rear plate?

Looks a bit out of place.  :undecided:

Just IMO tho! :afro:
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Post by: neil1780 on 11 May 2011, 21:11
Sweet mate this will finish the car off nicely :afro:
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Post by: cняis on 11 May 2011, 21:14
Shady, chris and any other tw4t that bums each other on here and has nothing better to do with their time other than make sly comments will be pleased to know the black car comes off the road this weekend and the work starts for its whole new lease of life

need the car back on the road ASAP, hope to have the green one sorted to use while we do the black one  :cool:





Me or another Chris? As I've not commented on this thread or your car (I think) :tongue:
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Post by: Toby on 11 May 2011, 21:21
result on the green 16v!!

cant wait to see your's gettin on the way ... F**k the hayters  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 May 2011, 21:24
ahh come on chris, haha you know exactly what im talking about but its all fun, next time jsut say what you think on here rather than else where - at least idiots like DH are not afraid to say sh!t to my face haha

im not havin a go at you mate coz iv not met you or owt i jut dont like all the arsey comments which were clearly aimed at me  :grin:..


toby - cheers mate :wink:

bellend, yeah mate, maybe a marmite thing the short one but i love it so it stays. cheers for your comments it means alot to me
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Post by: cняis on 11 May 2011, 21:47
ahh come on chris, haha you know exactly what im talking about but its all fun, next time jsut say what you think on here rather than else where - at least idiots like DH are not afraid to say sh!t to my face haha

im not havin a go at you mate coz iv not met you or owt i jut dont like all the arsey comments which were clearly aimed at me  :grin:..


toby - cheers mate :wink:

bellend, yeah mate, maybe a marmite thing the short one but i love it so it stays. cheers for your comments it means alot to me

Is it because I said "awwwww snap!" ?? Its from 'my name is earl', his ex mrs says it all the time, it means "damn"!  :laugh: i think you've got the wrong end of the stick this time  :kiss: i wasnt saying it in agreement, i was saying it as i was shocked  :shocked:
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 May 2011, 21:51
i dont watch that program and okies if you say so, no worries, if thats the case sorry  :cool:

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Post by: cняis on 11 May 2011, 21:57
i dont watch that program and okies if you say so, no worries, if thats the case sorry  :cool:



Thats OK I do sometimes b!tch with you about pointless sh!t but thats to your (online) face not in someone elses dubrides thread. I stand less chance of reprisal on other peoples threads   :tongue:

Anyway you should be chuffed with all the attention you get, good and bad  :grin:

Now hurry the fk up and get the engine in  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 May 2011, 22:02
i hear u mate, repled to your pm too  :wink:

 :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:06
Well i drove the golf in 2.0l 8v guise for the last time today... 

work has started on the conversion, had a spare hour or so, and as of today this is how she stands

time is running out for this engine in this car:

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3667/img0960a.jpg) (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/img0960a.jpg/)

(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/8861/img0969j.jpg) (http://img805.imageshack.us/i/img0969j.jpg/)

(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/9987/img0965l.jpg) (http://img851.imageshack.us/i/img0965l.jpg/)

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4508/img0967v.jpg) (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/img0967v.jpg/)

Engine is going to be fully removed on the weekend...

sad to see the car in bits but will be worth it in the end   :cool:



Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Horney on 12 May 2011, 22:11
You can't put the 8v box in the 16v without a lot of ball ache. Better to pick up a good 2nd hand 16v box.

nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:14
why not? whats the issues matey?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:20
How the hell did you get the rear wheels on the ramps in that direction, did you jack it up first?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 12 May 2011, 22:20
8v box is rod change, 16v isn't :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: robz on 12 May 2011, 22:22
good luck with it all fella!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:22
why not? whats the issues matey?

Well the 8v box is rod shift and the 16v is cable shift, you need to salvage a Ibiza cupra i believe to do the swap.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:23
had to jack it coz even with rear bumper removed the car was too low to get up the ramp haha


rod yea, but why cant i just change the whole lot out, id like to know if it is possible and what needs to be done rather than blut 1 liner replies haha

ill ask over on CGTI
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Horney on 12 May 2011, 22:23
8v is rod change and cable clutch system, 16v is cable shift and Hydrolic clutch. These two systems are quite different and have different peddle boxes as well as the gear change and fluid/cable differences. It is doable but it would be a right pain and would make the 16v a pain to maintain in the future plus any savvy buyer would be put off by all the 8v stuff in it.

Nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:25
8v is rod change and cable clutch system, 16v is cable shift and Hydrolic clutch. These two systems are quite different and have different peddle boxes as well as the gear change and fluid/cable differences. It is doable but it would be a right pain and would make the 16v a pain to maintain in the future plus any savvy buyer would be put off by all the 8v stuff in it.

Nick

pedal box is exactly same mate

all the 8v stuff, its just a gear box, iv seen folk use this box in conversions on mk2 with ABF, is it really that hard a job to do. i just want the car ro run about in
 p.s hydro set up off in black one

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:28
The pedal box isn't teh same as Horney mentions due to the 8v having a cable operated clutch
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Horney on 12 May 2011, 22:29
Humm maybe the MKIII 16v still has a cable clutch then, was pretty sure they were hydro. Been a while since I had my head under a 16v so I'm sure some one else will confirm the clutch type. If it is a hydro one th epeddle box will be different to drive the cylinder.

Folks use the ABF gearbox in MKII's as it's stronger than the 8v one and the cable shift means you can mount the shifter up high in a track car.

Nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:30
The mk3 16v clutch is definitely hydro operated.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:30
been told its the same bar a bit on it which u blank off or something,

Originally Posted by kells  
So can i not use the 16v cat at all ? do i need to use the pedal box from the 16v too ??

im going to remap it also once its all fitted

All Mk3 pedal boxes are the same but you will need to add the hydro clutch setup to yours if your using a 16v box.
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Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: lemski on 12 May 2011, 22:31
16v are hydros just to confirm. Kells whens the work starting on this beast properly anyway?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:32
what do i need to do then to rock the 8v box or is it a deffo no go


work has started mate, see pics, main work starts saturday, i collect my BAM sat morning as its still in a seat cupra R thats been wrote off
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:35
How comes you want to use the 8v box in your conversion anyway, surely the 16v gear ratios are more suitable plus the fact it'll be a lot easier to set up due to the points that have just been made?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Horney on 12 May 2011, 22:37
He wants to put th e8v box in the 16v car to replace the box he's nicking from that for the 20vT.

I'm pretty sure the peddle boxes are different.

Nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 12 May 2011, 22:38
Engine still not in yet? ...........  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Good luck with the conversion matey, it's about time this car had the power to match!

OCD by any chance? Everything is spotless, even the bay! Nicest 8v bay i've ever seen and i'm sure the S3 one would look awesome too! :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 12 May 2011, 22:39
Last time I looked at a tugboat 8V vs 16V the set up was completely different and yes, that includes cable clutch actuation on the 8V and hydraulic on the 16V and IIRC pedal boxes too.

I can even see the cable for the clutch on your car.

the 16V WILL be hydraulic.

There are minor details like the mounts on the front of the engine, the o/s driveshaft, as well as the mechanism which are different 020 to 02A install, but obviously you've done all this research already, right?

Make sure you undo those hub bolts before you remove the gearbox or you might make a right mess of those 928 rims trying to get the hub bolts undone.  You are going to put a set of shyte wheels on while you do the conversion, surely?

Given that you don't have any idea even about the sandwich cooler and what/where/why it might be an issue this conversion thread has the potential to develop into a proper comedy now, unless you're buying in the intelligence and real world nolidge to do the conversion.  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Horney on 12 May 2011, 22:40
RIght so I think your options are as follows:

1) Swap the whole lot from the 16v into the 8v. Gearbox, clutch system and peddle box. Then put all the 8v stuff in the 16v.

2) Use the 16v box in the conversion and use some seat bits to retain the cars current cable clutch system therefore saving the peddle box swap. The 16v car will then need a replacement 16v box or sell as a project minus gearbox.

Nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:40
He wants to put th e8v box in the 16v car to replace the box he's nicking from that for the 20vT.

I'm pretty sure the peddle boxes are different.

Nick

opps sorry yeah of course i almost forgot the point of the current conversation then. ha.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:41
yea wanna do what nick says, trying to kee costs down now too, im at 3k mark so dont really wanna be buying more boxes haha

Wherry cheers matey, means alot to me.. this car is almost their for me in how i want it.... engine iv got is uber low miles and the car is screeming out for it, i am sad to see the 8v go tho, its been good to me, they are not /. or this one wasnt as bad as folk make out
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:44
Surely it'd be quicker, cheaper and a hell of a lot easier to just buy another 16v box from a breakers yard just to get the spare car up and running?

If you don't want to spend any more money then why don't you sell the 8v engine and gearbox to fund the 16v gearbox replacement?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:45
Last time I looked at a tugboat 8V vs 16V the set up was completely different and yes, that includes cable clutch actuation on the 8V and hydraulic on the 16V and IIRC pedal boxes too.

I can even see the cable for the clutch on your car.

the 16V WILL be hydraulic.

There are minor details like the mounts on the front of the engine, the o/s driveshaft, as well as the mechanism which are different 020 to 02A install, but obviously you've done all this research already, right?

Make sure you undo those hub bolts before you remove the gearbox or you might make a right mess of those 928 rims trying to get the hub bolts undone.  You are going to put a set of shyte wheels on while you do the conversion, surely?

Given that you don't have any idea even about the sandwich cooler and what/where/why it might be an issue this conversion thread has the potential to develop into a proper comedy now, unless you're buying in the intelligence and real world nolidge to do the conversion.  :grin:

dont worry, wheels coming off tomo, today was just to remove the easy bits dude and the fluids   :wink:



cheers for reply, iv not researced a 8v into a ABF which is what im asking about, i do know what i need for the conversion into the black one tho lol, thats why i bought a full 16v car to use the bits from
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:47
Surely it'd be quicker, cheaper and a hell of a lot easier to just buy another 16v box from a breakers yard just to get the spare car up and running?

yes mate looks as tho, deffo dont want to break it as its too good

(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1818/imageih.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Horney on 12 May 2011, 22:47
Surely it'd be quicker, cheaper and a hell of a lot easier to just buy another 16v box from a breakers yard just to get the spare car up and running?

That's what I'd do, plenty of MKIII's get broken and it'll be worth more money if it can move under it's own steam. Just robing the box from that car and keeping F17 cable clutch seems the most sensible and easiest way of doing it. Hydro clutch is a bit rubbish anyway, they feel a bit odd. That said, I', not a fan of cable change either TBH, rod feels more direct. At least VW's cable change doesn't feel to bad, Vauxhalls feels like stirring lumpy custard.

Nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:49
cheers mate, ill look intio this RE the F17BAD cable
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:53
Surely it'd be quicker, cheaper and a hell of a lot easier to just buy another 16v box from a breakers yard just to get the spare car up and running?

That's what I'd do, plenty of MKIII's get broken and it'll be worth more money if it can move under it's own steam. Just robing the box from that car and keeping F17 cable clutch seems the most sensible and easiest way of doing it. Hydro clutch is a bit rubbish anyway, they feel a bit odd. That said, I', not a fan of cable change either TBH, rod feels more direct. At least VW's cable change doesn't feel to bad, Vauxhalls feels like stirring lumpy custard.

Nick

I totally agree, I MUCH preferred the gear changes in my previous 8v Golfs especially after a good refurb and replacing all the bushes. But yeah, as cable change boxs go ther are worse out there than what VW opted for on the 16v  I guess.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:54
ok cool, so what do i need to do to kee the cable, is it the seat thing i need to do
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Jack3559 on 12 May 2011, 22:57
I know you're not in the market for another box, but to save working on the 16V at all, why not look for a TDi box? Apparently a good choice for 1.8T.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:57
looked into that matey, but the 16v box is what i want, cheers mate
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: benvictors on 12 May 2011, 23:10
This is what we want for the clutch to make life easier matey, Cable to Hydro set up from a Synchro

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r272/fangdanga/Forums/02Aclutchbracket.jpg
Part number 02A 141 708B, still available from VW I think  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 May 2011, 06:09
Actually it's from very early Passat3.  It also comes with a boot and two bolts.

Needs the bracket that holds the cable in place at the front, too.

This set up was also used in various SEATs - Ibiza and Toledo.

As you want all this to convert to cable you've bought the wrong car - Ibiza or Toledo ABF would have been much more sensible.

You also (obviously) need the right cable to go with it, as it's at a further 90 degrees around to the rod-change box.

Not sure the Toledo cable will be right, as the pedal box on the G3 is quite different to the G2.

Not sure Brad's left leg will be strong enough on an uprated 228mm clutch with a cable clutch though.  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: lemski on 13 May 2011, 07:49
what do i need to do then to rock the 8v box or is it a deffo no go


work has started mate, see pics, main work starts saturday, i collect my BAM sat morning as its still in a seat cupra R thats been wrote off


i always miss thing when am on my phone.

i'd just get another hydo box from somats
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 May 2011, 08:46
Actually it's from very early Passat3.  It also comes with a boot and two bolts.

Needs the bracket that holds the cable in place at the front, too.

This set up was also used in various SEATs - Ibiza and Toledo.

As you want all this to convert to cable you've bought the wrong car - Ibiza or Toledo ABF would have been much more sensible.

You also (obviously) need the right cable to go with it, as it's at a further 90 degrees around to the rod-change box.

Not sure the Toledo cable will be right, as the pedal box on the G3 is quite different to the G2.

Not sure Brad's left leg will be strong enough on an uprated 228mm clutch with a cable clutch though.  :grin:


 :grin:

many thanks for this reply, any ideas which cable to try mate ?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 May 2011, 10:38
Late Toldeo ABF 16V is the one you want, but be aware it's auto-adjust.

The part number is on this site somewhere - search for Toledo or something.

I think the one on mine has been (deliberately) butchered by an AA man (one who I know) at some point before it got to my car - the auto-adjust has been defeated and it has screw adjustment on the end. 

Suits me fine, but be aware the standardish clutch in mine is already quite heavy on the cable.  The hydraulic set up will be significantly lighter and an easier every day drive.
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Post by: F17BAD on 13 May 2011, 11:19
cheers for this, very helpfull  :wink:

Can you give me your honest opinion which set up to use, either Hydro or the cable ?  basically what would you decide? 

once again, thanks for the imput
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Post by: Wayne on 13 May 2011, 11:22
I would tempted to run hydro as it will lighter in day to day use.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 May 2011, 12:09
It's a daily and you're a girl.

Go hydro.
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Post by: F17BAD on 13 May 2011, 12:30
hahaha, id not go to that extent, i got a paddle one in the swift that was heavvvvvyyyyy..

cheers tho, ill have a think.  :cool:

Collect the Bam engine in the morning and im removing the 8v lump from the Golf shell tomo afternoon
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dubsport on 13 May 2011, 14:32
This thread makes me happy.

DH and Kells building bridges  :grin:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 13 May 2011, 14:59
Well fook me... I don't come on here for a few weeks and look what happens...  Have there been lots of man hugs going on in my absence?
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Post by: JC on 13 May 2011, 15:03
 :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 May 2011, 16:50
Just polish, fanny about with trim and paint centre-caps: collect abuse.

Actually do something worthwhile: get help and assistance.

It's simple equation.  :grin:
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Post by: dubsport on 13 May 2011, 18:51
glad you havent commented on my thread then :laugh: you would have a field day  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 May 2011, 22:27
yeah big thanks must go out to DH, good of him for taking the time to be helpfull, jokes and sh!t aside, means alot so cheers
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 May 2011, 19:20
Ok, so today i got my new engine, a 200 mile round trip this morning

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5053/img0972dz.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/img0972dz.jpg/)

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/347/img0973li.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/img0973li.jpg/)

and this afternoon we got the old engine out of the car, this is the ver last picture you will see with this 8v lump in the bay

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3104/img0978k.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/img0978k.jpg/)

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6821/img0980u.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/228/img0980u.jpg/)

(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4957/img0982ud.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/img0982ud.jpg/)


also removed half the dash.. (no pics yet)

tomo rest of dash will be removed plus theb old engine loom, also gonna do some repair work to the Green 16v car to solve the oil cooler issue.. so its a early start and im DJ'ing tonight..

Happy times tho..   :cool:
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Post by: JC on 14 May 2011, 19:30
and so much easier starting with a clean bay before removing the old engine - good progress for day one :afro:

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Post by: kniterider on 14 May 2011, 19:31
good stuf fmate, looking forward to seeing it progress :)

Gaz
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 May 2011, 19:32
cheers guys, chuff - Deffo   :wink: :cool:

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 May 2011, 19:37
Catching up on everything.... nice progress. :afro:... what you doing with the old shiny lump?
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 May 2011, 19:39
thanks mate, old lump is in the classifieds  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: benvictors on 14 May 2011, 20:06
Think we did pretty damn good to say we didnt touch the car til half 1  :wink: think the black beauty will be just about prepped for stuff to be bolted back in by the end of play tomorrow, aside from Mr Kells going to town on the bay with his extensive cleaning products  :laugh: :grin:

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 May 2011, 20:11
hahaha, yep cant wait to tackle them hard to reach places i never sould before... the New engine needs some attention too... its on my head now...  :tongue:

Ben showing it some love

(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7235/img0977i.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/508/img0977i.jpg/)

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Post by: CCGTI on 14 May 2011, 20:15
defo having a play in this when its done, top work lads
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 May 2011, 20:18
no probs dude, cheers  :wink:
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Post by: CCGTI on 14 May 2011, 20:22
if u need a spare pair of hands gives us a shout and if im free more than happy to help
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Post by: benvictors on 14 May 2011, 20:29
hahaha, yep cant wait to tackle them hard to reach places i never sould before... the New engine needs some attention too... its on my head now...  :tongue:

Ben showing it some love

(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7235/img0977i.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/508/img0977i.jpg/)


Ha ha ha ha
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 May 2011, 20:30
cheers roger mate, welcome down anytime
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Post by: Wayne on 14 May 2011, 21:30
Excellent work :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 May 2011, 21:40
cheers wayne mate
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Post by: F17BAD on 15 May 2011, 13:31
Today i got the dash out and the looms out ready to be worked on

(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/6010/imagezny.jpg)


and started to clean the new engine, currently deciding if to powdercoat the inlet manifold and the chargepipe black, leave standard or go polised

(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4899/imageakl.jpg)


next is to get the wiring looms sorted, iv had no sleep, so thats all for today..
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: tech1889 on 15 May 2011, 13:40
i would go part polished mate.. powdered black makes the bay look a week bit dull in my eyes  :smiley:

Making good progress though mate  :smiley:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 15 May 2011, 15:25
Don't powdercoat, you need to enable as much heat transfer as possible and you also want to not polish the boost pipes. The last tithead I was at the 'ring with who had polished boost pipes couldn't figure out why they kept blowing off..... I suggested he scour over the ends of them with some sandpaper - suddenly the problem was gone...
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Post by: Horney on 15 May 2011, 15:34
Don't powdercoat, you need to enable as much heat transfer as possible and you also want to not polish the boost pipes. The last tithead I was at the 'ring with who had polished boost pipes couldn't figure out why they kept blowing off..... I suggested he scour over the ends of them with some sandpaper - suddenly the problem was gone...

lol, seen this with polished boost pipes as well. Look good polished but as DH says leave the contact surfaces rough.

Nick

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Post by: F17BAD on 15 May 2011, 17:35
Don't powdercoat, you need to enable as much heat transfer as possible and you also want to not polish the boost pipes. The last tithead I was at the 'ring with who had polished boost pipes couldn't figure out why they kept blowing off..... I suggested he scour over the ends of them with some sandpaper - suddenly the problem was gone...

hi mate, iv decided to leave it all OEM. its the look im going for so would be silly to do any other.. and cheers for the heads up  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Wayne on 15 May 2011, 19:32
Leave the pipes standard :smiley: oe look is the best :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 15 May 2011, 20:35
OEM it is  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: golf-sib on 15 May 2011, 22:03
Hairspray also roughens up the surface between silicone and polished pipes which is common practice if you decide to do any pipework yourself and make sure you bead the pipes too.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: pablo64 on 16 May 2011, 20:39
looking forward to seeing this sorted, cars excellent as it was, now it will have show and go, well done kells, respect to ya fella
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 May 2011, 22:13
Cheers matey

 :cool:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 17 May 2011, 13:18
What you decided with the exhaust, downpipe, cat situation?
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Post by: F17BAD on 17 May 2011, 13:54
Hi matey

Im actually going to message u and send you a few links of cats to see what your opinion is, downpipe is also on my mind, theirs the Qpeng which iv heard bad things about and then the one on the thread i made on CGTI that somebody put a link up of.. i need the setup to have provisions for 2 lambda sensors, i look of the one you have TBH

Gonna measure my magnex, but if this is too small its gonna have to be a Jetex


will message you in a bit mate - possibly tonight  :cool:
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Post by: dubsport on 17 May 2011, 22:53
Powdercoat and polished would look awesome mate as the rest of your car is proper shiny 8)
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 18 May 2011, 11:46
what bad things have you heard about the qpeng downpipe? I've only heard bad about their management, I've been using the downpipe no problems though. Only 1 lambda on it though

I'd be in interested to see your cat options as well as I'm looking for one atm :) Was gonna get the Hoffmann but would be good to compare it to others, I cant really find any others suitable
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 18 May 2011, 12:38
hi matey, think im gonna go with the same cat as you but tap it and fit a lambda probe to it, does the qpeng have a hole for a probe then?

iv heard the welds are crap and fail..

take a read of this thread i made on CGTI, the one in the link somebody has provided is the one i think im going to get (Downpipe)

http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235473

also interested in the cat Tshirt2K mentions although thats over in the states
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 18 May 2011, 13:11
ah ok your running a k04? im just a k03s dunno what the qpeng k04 pipe is like, only 1 weld on the k03 and looks pretty good. It has a lambda hole for the pre cat which is just after the flexi bit after it joins to the manifold, seems a bit close to the engine for my liking but guess it will do the job. Will see what Mr MOT has to say about it  :grin: I've mapped out my post cat lambda dont think it will affect anything its just there to check the cat is working properly.

I like the look of that cat tshirt2k posted! would need to cut the flange off though like he said, it looks like what I imagine the Hoffmann cat would look like with sleeves welded on its ends, which is what I was planning to do :P If you go for it let me know what happens :)
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Post by: tshirt2k on 18 May 2011, 13:53
Dont think the hoffman cat is 2.5". Would be a direct fit for the standard sytem which steps down to just over 2" IIRC. And its dearer.
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 18 May 2011, 14:07
I was looking at a Hoffmann universal cat on ebay for £109 thats 2.5"
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-2-5-200-cpi-Sports-Cat-Catalytic-Converter-/270751139635?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f0a068733
Was unsure about the quality for the price but have been told there good?
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Post by: tshirt2k on 18 May 2011, 14:36
Thought you meant the direct fit one. They are all around the same price. But they will still need fabriction to fit depending where the downpipe finished in comparison to the exhaust. I thought about using one of these and although i could have done it, i didnt fancy all the messing about under the car and making more flanges etc.
Youll need to buy a length of pipe and connectors. Which could add upto £50. Plus welding. I added it up and got the 42 Draft design one as it was cold at the time.   :sad:

All depends on if you can fabricate yourself or how much extra it'll cost to get it fabbed up.
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 18 May 2011, 15:31
Yeah will need a bit of modding, but with the qpeng downpipe having a non flanged 2.5" end and my exhaust also having 2.5" was thinking all I'd need to do was weld on 2 sleeves 1 on each end slightly bigger than the outter diammeter of downpipe/exhaust and just slide it on and hold it with clamps. At least I'm hoping thats all I'd need to do  :p
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Post by: Mikester on 19 May 2011, 16:30
Enough talk, more pics. lol.
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 May 2011, 18:22
waiting on a few parts mike, then the pics will roll, trying to get this back on the road in the next couple off weeks  :cool:
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Post by: Mikester on 19 May 2011, 19:59
waiting on a few parts mike, then the pics will roll, trying to get this back on the road in the next couple off weeks  :cool:

Garrett? FMIC? NOS?
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 19 May 2011, 21:53
How are you gonna be fitting your intercooler and which one are you going for?
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 May 2011, 21:59
its a universal thing, iv already got it, gonna bolt it to that front cross member thing it will be at the bottom of the bumper in the misddle behind them fin things

mike waiting on a engine mount i was wrongly suplied, and deciding on ym exhaust / cat / downpipe set up

this weeknd sees us taking the bits off the valver i need and fitting to the black car, Hydro set up etc

also need to order some polly bushes and a gaitor thats split on my steering rack
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Post by: Horney on 19 May 2011, 22:03
Get the steering rack poly bushes, they make an awesome difference. If you can stitch weld the front wishbones while you have it all in bits as well.

Nick
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 19 May 2011, 22:12
is the fmic the universal 65mm thick ebay jobbie? I'm using this one, been looking for info tonight on ways to move the rad back on the drivers side as it just fouls the fmic by about 5mm or so, which causes it to push against the bumper and so you cant refit it without a lot of trimming. I had to cut all the fins out of mine and it still isnt enough :( Regretting doing it now and have just stuck some black mesh behind it for the time being, gonna have a go at moving the rad on the weekend
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 May 2011, 22:31
ill let you know how i get on with the intercooler and what i come up with need to switch this engine mount as iv been supplied the wrong part :rolleyes:, then i can do a trial fit

Nick will keep that in mind - nice one matey :cool:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 20 May 2011, 00:00
If you can stitch weld the front wishbones while you have it all in bits as well.

Golf3 wishbones less in need of it, IIRC.

TBH having been round Leeds I wouldn't do it, as I'd want to deform a control arm before the sub-frame if I walloped a pothole.  :wink:

If I was re-bushing this car I'd go OEM TBH - poly don't last and often seem to squeak.  Not a good look if you is being a bad-a$$.
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 20 May 2011, 00:07
I was always under the impression it was just the mk1's and 2's that needed beefing up in that department as well.
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Post by: Khare on 20 May 2011, 00:15
Glad to see this finally underway Kells :afro: Looking forward to all the updates and pics  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 20 May 2011, 10:30
cheers guys

DH, the lower suspension arm bushes are worn and a deffo mot fail, i was going to polly these, do you think OEM would be better option for this part ??
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Post by: Wayne on 20 May 2011, 10:53
cheers guys

DH, the lower suspension arm bushes are worn and a deffo mot fail, i was going to polly these, do you think OEM would be better option for this part ??

I would run standard bushes.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 20 May 2011, 13:43
DH, the lower suspension arm bushes are worn and a deffo mot fail, i was going to polly these, do you think OEM would be better option for this part ??

OEM will be better. 

You need to check with some ETKA fetishist to see if the TT bushes fit your control arms.  If they do they will be a better option than poly or OEM as they are solid rubber bonded to the outer and inner steel carriers.
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Post by: F17BAD on 20 May 2011, 13:58
ok cool cheers for that ill look into this
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Post by: tshirt2k on 20 May 2011, 19:17
TT Rear bushes fit.

Part No 8N0 407 181 B
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 21 May 2011, 01:35
That's something to remember.
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 21 May 2011, 01:46
Although I thought the TT shared parts with the mk4 Golf, not the mk3?
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Post by: LowlifeDubber on 21 May 2011, 06:47
Get some pics up mate! :grin:

Interested to see how you mount your intercooler too.Do you reckon you will have to chop much of your bumper up?
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Post by: tshirt2k on 21 May 2011, 17:53
Get some pics up mate! :grin:

Interested to see how you mount your intercooler too.Do you reckon you will have to chop much of your bumper up?


Not if its not properly. Just remove two fins and  a skim of the rest. Involves moving rad back a touch
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Post by: tdi_blu on 21 May 2011, 19:21
Great work mate really moving now this is going to be one sweet mk3 once shes all done ill be watching all your updates  :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 21 May 2011, 20:23
cheers guys more pics soon, today was spent stripping the bits of the ABF car that i need, Black car is now ready for evverything to go back in, just waiting for CAT, downpipe and exhaust to arrive, looking at 2 weeks more build time to see this one back on the road

Sold whats left of the green car today for £500!! :smiley: so that will be gone once iv removed the bits i need, not bad seen as the head gasket completely went on thursday  :grin:
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 21 May 2011, 22:01
Get some pics up mate! :grin:

Interested to see how you mount your intercooler too.Do you reckon you will have to chop much of your bumper up?


Not if its not properly. Just remove two fins and  a skim of the rest. Involves moving rad back a touch

I just spent the day moving my rad back for the intercooler thanks to your build thread :)

Looking forward to more pics :) How did you get on with the throttle pedal? Ben was asking me how I got mine out the other night, told him brute strength and a hacksaw  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 May 2011, 21:12
currently taking the bits off the 16valve GTI i bought which i need for F17BAD.. this should be done in a few days

also cleaned up the inlet manifold and throttle body

from this

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5061/imagedii.jpg)

to this

(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/355/imagelvhm.jpg)

(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2210/imageogs.jpg)

just need another insert for one of the injectors as i stripped one by accident haha, that should be here tomo..

also done the alterrnator Black like the throttle body

(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6484/imagedxw.jpg)


Its gettign their, engine will be a clean OEM look once complete

next day of work is tuesday evening, removal of gearbox, Hydro set up and Gear linkage from the Valver.. then a quick clean up of these parts and its time to fully rebuild F17BAD, lots of pics to come
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Post by: dom on 22 May 2011, 22:51
Looking good :cool:

What did you use to clean it up?
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 May 2011, 22:56
My hands lol and alot of time

Going for all out OEM look

Engine is uber low miles and it shows. Much easier to clean than my old lump was.

Prefered products are gunk spray and wd40 for plastics and fastners
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Post by: JC on 23 May 2011, 05:48
Prefered products are gunk spray and wd40 for plastics and fastners

Man up and get them whacked in the dishwasher  :shocked: :tongue:

Looking good so far :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 May 2011, 14:09
hahaha Chuff i wanted to use that for some other bits but is is out of order at the mo and awaiting repair  :angry: :angry: :grin:

picked up a few new bits from audi today and got the correct engine mount which i was supplied wrong, engine going in the golf this weekend
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Post by: jonnypolish on 23 May 2011, 14:44
<3 :afro:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 23 May 2011, 20:50
One thing I'd recommend also whilst youre at it, is change to shifter and tower to mk4 style to make everything feel new and more precise.  :wink:
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Post by: Toby on 23 May 2011, 20:52
im lovin how this is going! hayters  :kiss:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 23 May 2011, 21:14
One thing I'd recommend also whilst youre at it, is change to shifter and tower to mk4 style to make everything feel new and more precise.  :wink:

Definitely worth doing whilst it's all apart.
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 May 2011, 21:40
Cheers - anyone ny links on the bits i need..

quick as possible too as i need to get the bits ASAP

also, what bracket do people reccomend (if any) to fit a single boost gauge ? 
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Post by: benvictors on 23 May 2011, 21:44
I know what parts matey, need to get down to that scrappers on Saturday and get on the pilfer  :grin:
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 23 May 2011, 21:45
for the 02j shifter you need the shifter itself with cables and the 02j gearbox tower. Depends on your 02a box wether its a straight swap or not, the 02j tower is a bit thicker than the early 02a but its the same as the late 02a (I think) not sure how to tell which one you have though :P If you have the thinner one you need to fit a bigger thing in your 02a (the name of the bit escapes me at the moment lol)
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Post by: benvictors on 23 May 2011, 21:48
for the 02j shifter you need the shifter itself with cables and the 02j gearbox tower. Depends on your 02a box wether its a straight swap or not, the 02j tower is a bit thicker than the early 02a but its the same as the late 02a (I think) not sure how to tell which one you have though :P If you have the thinner one you need to fit a bigger thing in your 02a (the name of the bit escapes me at the moment lol)

'thing' will do ha ha ha
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 May 2011, 21:49
my gearbox is from a 1997 car. so its a late one.. ill leave this to ben to sort... he loves this sort of sh!t :laugh:
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Post by: benvictors on 23 May 2011, 22:03
my gearbox is from a 1997 car. so its a late one.. ill leave this to ben to sort... he loves this sort of sh!t :laugh:
You knows it  :grin:
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 23 May 2011, 22:54
lol, I like the idea of doing this kinda stuff, but I hate that it always turns out to be a much bigger ball ache than anticipated  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 May 2011, 23:02
hahaha know the feeling mate
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 May 2011, 09:19
A few Links to what's needed but can Be got from scrap cars cheaper. 02j tower from a 5 speed box. 02j 5speed shifter with cables and cable bracket. I would also go for a TT short shift for around £25. Waiting till I'm able to put it all in mine.

02j tower into mk2/mk3 tunnel (http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=193257)

There is another mod for the housing shown in one of the threads below to get it fitting right in a mk3 without any welding.

02j Tower info (http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229024&highlight=02j+tower)

TT short shift info (http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=230387&highlight=02j+tower)


Car which also have the housing.

Quote from: rubjonny
MK4 style cable shift fitted to:
Polo 95-02 - TDI
Polo classic 00-02 - TDI
Lupo 99-06 -  TDI & 1.6 GTI 16v
Caddy 96-03 - TDI

Ibiza 99-02 - TDI & 1.8T
Arosa 97-04 - TDI
Cordoba 99-02 - TDI & 1.8T
Inca 99-01 - TDI




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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 May 2011, 09:26
Cheers - anyone ny links on the bits i need..

quick as possible too as i need to get the bits ASAP

also, what bracket do people reccomend (if any) to fit a single boost gauge ? 

Depends where you want to mount your gauge. I went dash mount pods and modded them for locations where I wanted them. I didn't want A pillar fast and furious stylee.

Same place where I got my Cat from does this.

(http://www.42draftdesigns.com/images/gaugepanels/mk3single/mk3sgp01.jpg)

http://www.42draftdesigns.com/categories/products/mk3single.html (http://www.42draftdesigns.com/categories/products/mk3single.html)


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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 09:42
cheers matey will look at those links


cant really use the panel for the gauge tho as i have heated seat switch their

Iv ordered my K04 downpipe and my Jetex system, in talks with the americans about my Cat, iv sent them alot of dimensions so im waiting to see what they come back with...
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Post by: Jack3559 on 24 May 2011, 09:50
I think the gauges look cool in the vents, saw it on a mk4, looked proper sleeper.

(http://www.swgmotorsport.com/asps/uploads/big/159-1.jpg)

For extra cool points, you could put it behind the slats... they look sweet when they're lit up in there.
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 May 2011, 11:25
cheers matey will look at those links


cant really use the panel for the gauge tho as i have heated seat switch their


Ok. An alternative  i came up with. holder cost about £4

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/tshirt2k/16vt%20project/SDC10287.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/tshirt2k/16vt%20project/SDC10291.jpg)

You can't get this vent pods for the mk3 IIRC

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Post by: Jack3559 on 24 May 2011, 11:54
I'm not sure if you can buy them, but you could certainly DIY them...

Your solution looks pretty cool, but does it disrupt the view of the rest of the clocks?
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 13:41
Ordered my Boost Gauge, its a VDO one.. matches my clocks

was thinking in the vents in the centre consol as i dont use those vents at all, do like how you have done those so may look at this option too:cool:
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Post by: Mikester on 24 May 2011, 13:44
Pics with fruit in to prove this is really happening. lol.
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 13:45
ehh ??

their is pics of the car in bits and of the new engine, you want any more proof pm me for my address and get your boney arse over  :grin:
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Post by: Jack3559 on 24 May 2011, 13:46
Pics with fruit in to prove this is really happening. lol.

Birds custard.
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 May 2011, 14:05
I'm not sure if you can buy them, but you could certainly DIY them...

Your solution looks pretty cool, but does it disrupt the view of the rest of the clocks?

No. As you look down above them. Everything you need is right infront of you.  :wink:

Picture isn't representing actual view you get.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/tshirt2k/16vt%20project/SDC10303.jpg)

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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 14:08
think i might do the same mate
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 May 2011, 14:10
Shouldn't be giving all my tricks away.   :laugh:
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Post by: Wayne on 24 May 2011, 14:16

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/tshirt2k/16vt%20project/SDC10303.jpg)



They look good mounted like that  :smiley:
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Post by: Mikester on 24 May 2011, 14:17
ehh ??

their is pics of the car in bits and of the new engine, you want any more proof pm me for my address and get your boney arse over  :grin:

Was a joke, lol.

I believe its happening just want to see progress in this beast.

I would be a bad influence if i came and looked. lol
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 14:30
 :grin: :grin: :grin:

i need to get it done ASAP mat, about 2 weeks and she will be finished, still working on the 16v car getting bits off that i need then i need to put that back together coz iv already sold it and need rid of it off my drive

trail fit of The S3 lump into F17BAD is this weekend

ben has a few bits to do like mounting brackets for the Audi Accelerator pedal etc and some bits for in the bay, and iv to prepair the abf gearbox too.. gotta loom fresh


still waiting on reply from the states about my cat, other than that we just about have all we need, gonna try use original airbox too for4 the oem feel, plus its close to the turbo so a regualr induction kit is a bad idea, seen a few that relocate but i dont fanc spending another 300 notes right now as im upto the 4k mark..
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 16:06
what are peoples opinion on the shallow sump ?   i want one but i hear they have no provision for a oil level sensor ??
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Post by: dom on 24 May 2011, 16:47
Not a clue about the sump, but i'm liking the idea of the gauges there :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 17:16
yeah deffo the best place for them by the looks of it

*awaits tshirt2k RE sump :smiley:
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Post by: dom on 24 May 2011, 17:18
yeah deffo the best place for them by the looks of it

*awaits tshirt2k RE sump :smiley:

I can't wait to see this up and running! You gonna head to the RR day at The Doc's in October?
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 17:45
im their mate.. might go see that guy before to get this mapped up
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Post by: Bellend on 24 May 2011, 17:45
If you only need one gauge, what about putting it where the hazard switch is, dead in the middle and then using a 3.5 hazard switch which goes with the A/C buttons etc and looks completely OEM?
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Post by: lemski on 24 May 2011, 17:51
Ooooow u'll be at docs would love to see what this pulls on the dyno
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 18:07
If you only need one gauge, what about putting it where the hazard switch is, dead in the middle and then using a 3.5 hazard switch which goes with the A/C buttons etc and looks completely OEM?

an idea i had already mate but the cowling has a atachment pint in the centre so dunno if it will be possible
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 18:09
Ooooow u'll be at docs would love to see what this pulls on the dyno

me too mate, was originally after a reliable 250 hp.. so owt above that is cool for now till i get a limited slip diff... then i wanna do alot more to this engine  :lipsrsealed: :cool:
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Post by: lemski on 24 May 2011, 18:10
More is better in my eyes
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 18:48
yeap haha  :cool:

and this bad boy should help me along the way  :tongue:

(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/3011/imagezbi.jpg)
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Post by: golf-sib on 24 May 2011, 19:50
You can get shallow sumps with oil pick up, I remember I was thinking of getting one at a point as I thought I was scraping. All I was smacking was the cat shield  :grin:

All depends how low you are, if its a 40-50mm drop (I'm talking on a mk4, not sure how low the engine would sit in a mk3) then I can't see the point off a shallow sump unless you're silly low.
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 May 2011, 19:58

All depends how low you are, if its a 40-50mm drop (I'm talking on a mk4, not sure how low the engine would sit in a mk3) then I can't see the point off a shallow sump unless you're silly low.

Think the same. Your car doesn't look that low TBH. All depends if you want to make the car handle sh*t or not and not be able to make use of all that power. if it becomes a problem, you could always change it after.
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Post by: Wayne on 24 May 2011, 21:14
what are peoples opinion on the shallow sump ?   i want one but i hear they have no provision for a oil level sensor ??

I think you will be fine with a standard sump, try it first and see how low it is.
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 21:46
cool will see then

tshirt2k, car is very low - 100mm low or their abouts
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Post by: cняis on 24 May 2011, 22:49
too low and its unusable at speed anyway, unless the road is dead flat and smooth (i.e. race track). No twisty A/B road action for you  :grin:

Higher ride height will generate negative scene points though, which is why i lowered mine a touch recently  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 23:09
she handles how i like it to tbh, but i hear what you say 100%

ill see how the sump sits once  the engine is in the car
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Post by: tech1889 on 24 May 2011, 23:15
Kells great to see progress mate.. coming along nicely.. i missed out on a BAM lump on the bay everything turbo ancillaries etc for £700  :angry: :angry:

What you could do if your worried about running shallow sump and running less oil etc.. why not just remove standard sump and get it plated up with some heavy duty stainless steel then atleast you know you wont crack the sump and will only take chunks out the plated area.. worth a thought  :smiley:

Dan
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Post by: Dmonday on 24 May 2011, 23:43
Great to see progress dude :) hope all goes well!
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 09:07
Kells great to see progress mate.. coming along nicely.. i missed out on a BAM lump on the bay everything turbo ancillaries etc for £700  :angry: :angry:

What you could do if your worried about running shallow sump and running less oil etc.. why not just remove standard sump and get it plated up with some heavy duty stainless steel then atleast you know you wont crack the sump and will only take chunks out the plated area.. worth a thought  :smiley:

Dan


yeah this is a good idea, ill see what clearance is like ;-)

now need a pedal box from the valver, ts too much hassle removing the one from the ABF car i have because iv sold that car and the lad wants to keep it on the road. easiest way is to just buy another Pedal box so hope to sort that todaY!!   we can confirm they are deffo different on 8v and 16v cars, because theirs spot welds on my 8v one meaning you cant change bits on the box!

My K04 downpipe should arrive today as should my Jetex, and the Americans are making me up a Hiflow sports cat with provisions for my Lambda sensors, that should hit my house in about 10 days..

We have alot to do and it is stressfull, but i need this back on the road URGENT BASIS, we have planned to finish it the first week june.


got a twin fan rad prepaired also and thats going on the black car

other problems we have found is removing the post lambda from the donor cars Exhaust system!!! tried everything, does anybody know if i use my old gti one instead, will that be ok ? it has the same wires just a different conection for the loom but i could swap that easy enough ??


Next day working is saturday, need to fully finish removing bits from the ABF car, and get that off my drive and then prepair the Gearbox from that ready to go in my car, and also fit the new pedal box.. not sure if we will have time to trial fit the S3 lump in my bay like id hoped to
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Post by: tshirt2k on 25 May 2011, 11:09
What are you trying to do with the pedal box? I'm sure all mk3s have provisions to go hydro clutch without removing pedal box. Are you using a mk4 DBW pedal?

Remember this:

Quote from: rubjonny
you need to change:
clutch cable
flywheel
clutch
box
gear shifter & linkages

so its not gonna be a quick job, but entirely doable. the hydro and cable clutch pedal boxes are the same though, so that at least is an easy swap. unbolt hydro master cylinder, fit clutch cable, done.

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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 12:16
using the Seat cupra R DBW pedal

my pedal box is a box section tack welded, its differentt o the one in my 16v car, ill let ben explain it when he come on here

the one in the 16v car has no spring on the clutch pedal, all other pedal boxes iv seen do have this, and to remove the pedal box looks a mare of a job, especially on the 16v car i have because i dont want to remove the engine..

i need to fit my old parts into the 16v car,, or at least cap of the hydro on that car and run cable..
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Post by: benvictors on 25 May 2011, 13:06
pedalbox...
The 8v pedalbox has a bracket spot welded to it for support when the clutch is fully depressed, this bracket has a strut that runs straight across the centre of the hole for the hydro cylinder so without cutting this strut away you can not fit the cylinder. Cutting it away could cause a weakness in the frame of the pedalbox so isnt really an option, also the small square bracket that is on the side of the clutch pedal for the hydro rod is non existant on the 8v.
Whether VW changed this design in later cars i dont know but the box thats in the early spec 8v is definately a no go for the hydro set-up. I will try take some pics on the offending item tonite an post up so everyone can see what im taking about
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 25 May 2011, 13:18
I used my 8v box just took the blank plate off and stuck the cylinder in there, put the clip on the back of the pedal and all was good. Guess I had it easier than I thought  :grin:

Which cat are you going for, the VR6 one with the flange?
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Post by: benvictors on 25 May 2011, 13:21
Yep, Theres no provision for the clip at all and where the blank plate is is where that strut runs, fecking ballache and more expense for Kells but we shall prevail ha ha
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 13:25
americans are making up the Cat to my spec. not pissing about...  No flange on mine that im having made up.

downpipe has arrived from trackslag, fully polished bad boy, much better than qpeng tat (their K04 ones are baba - the flexi part cant move so strains the welds)

Jetex cat back has arrived and so has some other bits


pedal box thing is on my mind.. f**ks sake lol :rolleyes: :grin:

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Post by: Wayne on 25 May 2011, 13:29
So it sounds like the early pedal box is different.

Would it be major work to fit the later box
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Post by: benvictors on 25 May 2011, 13:47
Not MAJOR work, just a ballache, gotta drop the master cylinder in the bay and remove the steering rack from the cab. But, because we are putting the green machine back together we are gonna leave that pedalbox in situe to save time so need to source a valver/vr6 pedalbox.
As it happens it has made life a little easier for the DBW install cos i can integrate the bracket for it into the pedalbox whilst its off the car to get it perfect  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 13:52
dont think so mate, its easier with engine out and dash (how it is at present)but to swap my pedal box for the one on the green car is a mare, so i jut wanna source another hydro box for the black car, and just fit my cable set up, rod exchange etc to the green car.. and plug off the hydro set up (leave it in situ) in the green car 

if all that makes sense
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Post by: robz on 25 May 2011, 13:58
fantastic work buddy!
well happy for ya :)
so glad your getting to do this!!
look forward to seeing this finished, and i wanna vid of you "settling it in" :D
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 14:09
lots of vids and fotos to come :-)
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Post by: pablo64 on 25 May 2011, 15:54
Sounds like the project is well under way and so looking forward to it being finished, few niggles on the way but aint that what its all about, doing something differant, well done kells/ben, keep up the good work
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 18:32
a few new bits turned up

(http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1393/imageckz.jpg)

(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/2448/imageyanh.jpg)

Cool as new Downpipe

(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/7939/imagetzh.jpg)

(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5554/imageux.jpg)

Its not Jetex - its just sitting on the box for my new exhaust system:

(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/6746/imagebgc.jpg)

(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9210/imageyxi.jpg)

non resonated, looks great and seems superb quality - hope it lives up to my old magnex

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Post by: robz on 25 May 2011, 18:36
oooo sweet :D
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Post by: Wayne on 25 May 2011, 19:52
 :drool: coming together nicely
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Post by: dom on 25 May 2011, 22:35
I love shiny new parts :cool:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 25 May 2011, 22:37
The Jetex are top quality and quiet. I need to get the non res section on mine to make it a bit meatier.  Alot of people say fit is bad. But that's because they don't fit it properly.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: benvictors on 25 May 2011, 22:51
Well it seems good old VW changed the spec on the pedalboxes from early to late cars  :angry:
Just checked 2 later spec cars and yrs tgey are universal, they have the bracket on the side of tge clutch pedal for the hydro cylinder and no stupid strut across the hole in the bulk head!!
Thankfully CCGTI has a later spec pedalbox we can pilfer, happy days  :grin:
Just need to remove and re-fit into F17BAD now
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 22:53
need it quick as ben jammin... still feel pissed btw  :grin:
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Post by: CCGTI on 25 May 2011, 23:19
told you i come in useful
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 23:25
Very useful mate :-)
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Post by: Wayne on 25 May 2011, 23:36
Well it seems good old VW changed the spec on the pedalboxes from early to late cars  :angry:
Just checked 2 later spec cars and yrs tgey are universal, they have the bracket on the side of tge clutch pedal for the hydro cylinder and no stupid strut across the hole in the bulk head!!
Thankfully CCGTI has a later spec pedalbox we can pilfer, happy days  :grin:
Just need to remove and re-fit into F17BAD now

Interesting info and good result in the end.  :smiley:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 25 May 2011, 23:40
We have alot to do and it is stressfull, but i need this back on the road URGENT BASIS, we have planned to finish it the first week june.

Quoted, just for reference.  :grin:
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 26 May 2011, 00:39
We have alot to do and it is stressfull, but i need this back on the road URGENT BASIS, we have planned to finish it the first week june.

Quoted, just for reference.  :grin:

Lol, love the friendly reminder :) :)
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 09:09
We have alot to do and it is stressfull, but i need this back on the road URGENT BASIS, we have planned to finish it the first week june.

Quoted, just for reference.  :grin:


 :laugh:  please dont jinks this :grin:,, i should have kept quiet  :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 26 May 2011, 09:40
We have alot to do and it is stressfull, but i need this back on the road URGENT BASIS, we have planned to finish it the first week june.

Quoted, just for reference.  :grin:


 :laugh:  please dont jinks this :grin:,, i should have kept quiet  :laugh: :laugh:

Hope you can do it. But it is a bit of a tall order!
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 10:49
been talking to Nick at R Tech, he is telling me i need a Badger5 TIP to get best results, and with this i can expect a genuine 275 / 280 HP

anyone know anything about these or any other TIPs for my engine ?? 
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 17:26
My new bost gauge turned up today - illuminates white. thats will be changed to BLUE to match my dials. best gauge iv seen. Not a fan of the cheapo ones and this matches my Anniversary clocks perfectly

(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5603/imagepqd.jpg)
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Post by: dubsport on 26 May 2011, 17:39
Noice!!!  :cool:

You going to edition38 bud?
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 17:45
when is the date mate ????
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Post by: dubsport on 26 May 2011, 17:46
September 2nd-4th I think bud!
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 17:51
i think ill be their then mate yeap  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 22:15
been messing about with the location for the gauge, couldnt get to love it any place but in theb vent i dont use, so came up with this mock up for now, i can mount it at an angle if need be bt im gonna try it in the car first..

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5898/imagesvg.jpg)

(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/3732/imagetj.jpg)
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Post by: Jack3559 on 26 May 2011, 22:16
That looks the f**king business.
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 26 May 2011, 22:21
not too shabby  :cool:

I was just comming in here to ask you where you were gonna mount your guages as I'm on the lookout for some atm, liking the look of that :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 22:23
Cheers  :cool:

im not one for a load of gauges in VWs but the turbo boost one is needed, so i jsut hunted for one that matched my anniversary dials 

VDO do a nice black one too, im gonna swap out the illumination to blue on this
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Post by: tshirt2k on 26 May 2011, 22:23
been talking to Nick at R Tech, he is telling me i need a Badger5 TIP to get best results, and with this i can expect a genuine 275 / 280 HP

anyone know anything about these or any other TIPs for my engine ?? 

Search on cgti shows this.

http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=226329 (http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=226329)
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 22:48
seen that thread, but can i just run a normal silicone TIP ??  nick was telling me the standard one on my engine is very restrictive? i was going to message u about this, Forge have told me they have one for £144 ? 

Bill at Badger5 has told me £205 for one of his

and Iv seen silicone ones as cheap ad £55 + £8 postage on the bay ?? 

what do you think to these?
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Post by: Wayne on 27 May 2011, 00:03
Gauge looks ok, makes use of the vent etc.
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Post by: tech1889 on 27 May 2011, 00:13
badger5 tips are very very highly rated mate.. i had a forge one on mine with no issues.. i think its down to preferance.. also imo do it once do it right.. the cheap silicone pipes have less strength and can delaminate where something like forge or badger5 will not.. im sure someone will pipe up with something to the contrary.. but hey lol

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Post by: LowlifeDubber on 27 May 2011, 06:14
Enjoying reading this mate.Keep up the good work! :cool:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 27 May 2011, 07:06
A mate of mine had some problems with some forge bits that had split and even had a hole in the IC where it wasnt welded properly. They were causing him various problems until we found them during a leak test. Luckily it was still in the warranty period and they were changed. Usually I'd say you gets what you pay, but I've had no problems with the "cheap" silicone bends I have bought from eBay etc. So I'd be inclined to try them out.
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 09:57
nick at r Tech was saying the standard intake pipe is very restrictive, so will a silicone one (of any brand) solve this ??

this is my main question ??

cheers for these replies


RE Vent, ben has make up a metal plate that replaces the vent so i may be using that, ill see  :evil:
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Post by: dubsport on 27 May 2011, 10:00
What turbo are you using mate? Ko3 ko3s? If you are I wouldn't bother with a silicone tip, don't think our pea shooters create enough boost to make the tip distort shape and make it restrictive :D
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 10:35
Mate iv got a S3 engine which is going to be mapped soon as it's in my car, turbo is K04
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Post by: tshirt2k on 27 May 2011, 10:54
I suppose as long as you can get one with a 3" bore. It should be ok. The extra cost for the others may not be justified.
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Post by: Rhyso on 27 May 2011, 10:59
nick at r Tech was saying the standard intake pipe is very restrictive, so will a silicone one (of any brand) solve this ??

this is my main question ??

cheers for these replies

Yes it will - that's why these aftermarket products exist  :wink:
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Post by: dubsport on 27 May 2011, 11:02
Mate iv got a S3 engine which is going to be mapped soon as it's in my car, turbo is K04

haha really should read previous post  :embarassed:

Definitely looming forward to seeing this at edition mate!
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 11:13
nice one matey :-)

had a test on the illumination of the dials, got a perfect match on my clocks as these are the very same leds haha, just need to mount them correct and then Bob is your auntys brother


(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7348/imagencq.jpg)
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Post by: golf-sib on 27 May 2011, 11:15
Uprate the TIP, reasons are straight forward

Aftermarket ones gradually drop from 3" to 2" which us a smoother transition and aids the airflow. OEM one drops halfway too 2" and it is restrictive in terms of how it bends and reduces.

As for aftermarket, I'd head for the cheaper ones, even the eBay £90 by various motorsport companies are good. They are made in coupled silicone which is 3-5ply, on TIPs its usually 4-5ply making it difficult to bend, collapse or cave in, even under stress and vacuum. I have used 3ply silicone and that refuses the bend, so imagine what an extra layer or 2 would do.

Its not like vacuum silicone which will collapse easy as the diameter increases.

But I can't imagine how the badger5 would be superior, as I have never dealt or used there products.
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 11:28
cheers mate, really appreciate thast reply, emailed a guy on ebay about one, want a black one idealy but blue would be good also, so ill see what he has, his price is 54 quid plus 8 postage!

Back on to the gauge, Ben has come up with this which i love

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6295/imagedky.jpg)

He has done it so it points towards me unlike the other way which is in the vent and does not direct the driver of the car
Will finish it with some black finish or carbon and see how it looks

what do we all think?
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Post by: Wayne on 27 May 2011, 11:33
Wrap it in carbon and it will be great.
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 11:36
Wrap it in carbon and it will be great.

you are on the same level as me mate, just orederd some more of the 3m carbon fibre :cool:
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Post by: golf-sib on 27 May 2011, 11:37
No problem, I've had forge and two ebay TIPs in front of me, one was demon motorsports and then another brand. They where cheaper in price but quality was near enough the same so I can't justify the price of another product for the sake of a Nike tick.

Go black it makes sense, I had my engine in all blue and absuletely hated it and redone it all back to black for a OEM look.

What you doing with the IC's?
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 11:58
he only has a blue one ??  rest of the bay is black, even got new engine cover with the all silver writing to get rid of the RED 5V TURBO bit on the S3 ones

IC?  do you mean intercooler ?
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Post by: golf-sib on 27 May 2011, 12:17
Yep Intercooler
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 27 May 2011, 12:19
could wrap the blue tip in black silicone tape :P

Black is  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 12:40
iv got a front mount IC, which we are gonna fab up the piping, will use Black hoses on here where we need to. i want the cooler to fit a certain way, basically no modding of the bumper fins if possible.

using a twin rad fan off my valver that had aircon
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 27 May 2011, 12:47
Check out tshirt2k build thread on cgti to see how he moved his rad back so he could fit the cooler without modding the bumper, wish I'd seen it before I butchered mine up  :sad:

Pics in my thread on how I did it as well but they probably better in his thread
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Post by: tshirt2k on 27 May 2011, 12:48
iv got a front mount IC, which we are gonna fab up the piping, will use Black hoses on here where we need to. i want the cooler to fit a certain way, basically no modding of the bumper fins if possible.

using a twin rad fan off my valver that had aircon

If you want no cutting of the fins, you will need to mod the panel like dan_GTI8v.

Edit: Beat me to it
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 13:03
i have no air con so im hoping that gives me a little more room to play with
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Post by: golf-sib on 27 May 2011, 13:05
Sounds good, I found Toyosports do good pipe kits for £80 and I still have pipes left. It comes with good clamps and silicone bits to join.

You got a beading tool or will you make the pipes then get them beaded. If its the second then most machine shops use a hydraulic beader, careful with these as if you are using alluminium pipe the can easily crack the pipes quite easily.

Have some hairspray handy, it helps the pipes slide in when wet, as it drys it makes the surface rough between the pipe and silicone reducing the chance off it popping off. A lot of garages do this except hairspray will not damage the engine in anyway.

Also you going 2" or 2.5" in piping.
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 13:07
iv seen those kits and was looking for them the other day in their shop ?

which IC have you got ?


not sure what size mi IC is, ill have to check that..
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 27 May 2011, 13:13
I removed the aircon from mine, my IC is 65mm thick which is the thickness I see on most universal coolers, I had to move the rad back around 10-15mm to get the cooler behind the slam panel so it cleared the bumper and thats with the fins cut out

Think you will have a hard job making it all fit without either cutting the bumper or moving the rad back  :undecided:
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 13:55
ill do it, seen others with the fins, the fins have to stay so fingers cossed
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Post by: golf-sib on 27 May 2011, 14:30
I know ko4 has 51/52mn inlet (2"). I just bought a 2" pipe kit off them (as ko3 inlets are more less the same). Search "it has begun" in mk4 section to see my build.

Also you can buy a beading tool for pipes upto 2.5" for £90 that you can use in a vice. which I was recommended on the locost forums and tbh very chuffed with.

As for the IC, toyosports do a 1.8T intercooler for the A4. This FMIC is only 51mm thick with 51mm inlets, which is what I used and ordered seperately. Afterwards I wrapped all my pipes up to reduce heatsoak effects. If you want to reduce trim put the Rad back with some spacers. Other people have put the IC very close to the to the Rad (a few mm. ) and stick some foam or other heat resistive material so the IC and Rad don't touch.

Also measure the TB to see what size reducer you would need, mine was 50>60mm on AGU, you may get away with reusing some off the standard silicone that's already there by cutting it up
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Post by: tshirt2k on 27 May 2011, 16:43
For your engine you will need 2.25" or 57mm pipe. That will support ~ 300-320hp. Any smaller can cause a restriction. Any larger can slow airspeed(spool time) And have as few bends as poss. Depends what pipe you get regarding beads. Because of the need to weld with a mig, I chose stainless but the need for beads were apparent recently due to leaks. So I made my own with rings of tube.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/tshirt2k/16vt%20project/d42f4bb8.jpg)

As mentioned, unless your ic is very thin. (It shouldnt be small for the amount of power you hope to run) You will need to move rad back to keep fins untouched. Regardless of having AC or not. The drivers side of the rad is angled forward so reduces gap between rad and crossmember.
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 17:14
great info guys

need to sort the tubing out, tshirt what do u actually recommend ?? my IC is the same as Dans
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Post by: tshirt2k on 27 May 2011, 17:59
great info guys

need to sort the tubing out, tshirt what do u actually recommend ?? my IC is the same as Dans

Recommend , as in what? Size, material?
Look at the boost run on mine, it will be very similar to your layout. Due to using TT/S3/cupra inlet.  I used 57mm stainless tube. I also used a toyosport ebay IC . Going too large on the tube can be harder to run due space needed.
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 May 2011, 12:21
did you use the tubing that came with the IC ??
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Post by: tshirt2k on 28 May 2011, 15:07
No. Didn't buy a kit. Bought all bits separate due to not wanting be left with any bends etc that I didn't need. Plus stainless was easier for me to work with.
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 May 2011, 18:58
think im gonna do same, make our own pipes up

couple more bits collected today from dealer

(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4665/imageyod.jpg)

but most part of day was spent with ben removing ABF Gearbox and sh!t and replacing it all with the 8v set up

(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5492/imagetcw.jpg)

here she is, awaiting the magic treatment from me, which im gonna start after my tea

(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1949/imagebrq.jpg)

more work tomo - gotta get green car built back up because its sold
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 28 May 2011, 19:14
what u doing to the gearbox? rebuilding it your self? :) how much work is involved in that..

god speed........
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 May 2011, 20:57
we are doing everything ourself

gearbox will look like new once done... :cool:

as for rebuilding gearboxes you can buy a kit for about 90 quid
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Post by: golf-sib on 29 May 2011, 11:20
Here's the tool I used:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pipe-Tube-Beading-Tool-/190529519802?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2c5c71c0ba

Its designed for pipes upto 2.5", brilliant tool, you use it in a vice. The bead is down to you how much you want it pressed, big lip or just a bulge as your in the control of the vice. Its fine to use on stainless piping, as I cut down one off the standard stainless pipes and beaded it to have an additional T-piece rather than buying odd bits that I could save money on (same thing you can do with the standard silicon, slice it up into pieces, lengths or angles you may need, its money in your pocket). Also the 18 swg thickness limitation can be ignored for alluminium due to it being softer and I succeeded on a bigger swg size in aluminum pipes to bead.

Here's the device in action:
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/sibilev/FMIC/FMIC13.jpg)
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/sibilev/FMIC/FMIC14.jpg)

The t-piece in stainless I was on about:
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/sibilev/FMIC/FMIC21.jpg)

The lip it produces:
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/sibilev/FMIC/FMIC15.jpg)

You doing any thing additional like catch can install, making additional brackets, cleaning injectors?

Hope this helps
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Post by: F17BAD on 29 May 2011, 12:43
Ben is gonna fab up some brakets we will need for certain stuff yeah

Injectors cleaning ?  what do you mean sent away to be cleaned. If so i dontthink dso the engine is less than 40k and they look brand new do the injectors

Gearbox has come up well, its had a recent rebuild so i wont need to do that  :smiley:, jsut gotta paint it up now but thats a job for tomorrow because im DJ'ing at a courtyard event at 2 o clock then off out for tea with the other half

Will pop up pics of the gearbox tomo once iv finished with it   :cool:

that tool looks wicked mate. where are you from ??

wi
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Post by: golf-sib on 29 May 2011, 14:17
I'm from kent/london really, the thing says northfleet but I'm around the wellin/ bexleyheath dare DA16/DA9 as I have not yet moved house yet.

Try registering to a locost/kit car forum such as this: http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/

The guys on there have a wealth off knowledge and will help out majorly with a few beer tokens if they are local.

I have a cheap ultrasonic cleaner, my engines only now upto 75k and the idle feels smoother after the clean, the lads on the audisport forum are on this and are seeing improvements in idle and response on engines as little as 50k... But I'm no expert, while its out why not give it a clean and you can inspect the o-rings as well. I had two nasty o-rings on my injectos when I first took them out at 65k so it does not hurt to have a look I suppose.
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 29 May 2011, 16:32
Sexy tool.  :smiley:
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Post by: Mikester on 01 June 2011, 00:07
Update required i think, its been a few days.
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Post by: benvictors on 01 June 2011, 08:50
I'll do a quick update then  :wink:
The green machine is pretty much all back together now and ready for shipping off to Kells' mate, just got the gear linkage to fidlle with an thats done.
We are waiting on the cat to turn up from America and then thats pretty much everything we need to start putting F17BAD back together, gotta go grab some clips, hoses etc for the install but allthe major parts are just sat waiting. Im on with the fabrication of the pedal box as we spk, gonna install a new bracket to the box for the DBW pedal then spray it all up black to keep with the OEM feel. Ive a few more brackets to make for the bay, one for the relocation of the expansion tank and one for the relocation of the carbon filter, me and Kells didnt like the idea of venting the petrol fume line to atmosphere so the carbon canister stays.
Work starts Sunday on the proper install so expect lots and lots of pics and maybe even the odd vid of our progress  :wink:
Im sure I will have left some bits out so il let Kells jump in on that.
EXCITING  :laugh:
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Post by: robz on 01 June 2011, 08:54
was the clutch the wrong way round out of interest??
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 June 2011, 13:58
was the clutch the wrong way round out of interest??


letting my mate sort it but yea, we have run out of time to be messing with the green dragon so its built back up and looks like a car again

im currently messing with some wiring in prep for this weekend shindig which will hopefully see F17BAD back together, got loads to do, seems unreal TBH because this is going to be my ultimate MK3 Golf... 

On a side note, EDD who is an absolute Legend (you know who you are - and i know you will be reading this)  has sorted me out a set of uber rare Anniversary 16v clocks out of his very own car, which have the all importand 160MPH readout.. this means i can have my dials the same as ever but only with the correct reading for the engine as the S3 has 160 mph clocks too

Thanks mate - you know how important the dials are to me  :wink: :cool:
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Post by: dom on 01 June 2011, 18:39
Glad to hear good progress is being made! Looking forward to seeing some updates over the weekend, this is gonna be one hell of a car when finished :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 June 2011, 20:57
Cheers mate

Gearbox is all ready now

From this

(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1949/imagebrq.jpg)

to this

(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3503/imagezgh.jpg)

to this - Satin Black

(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/7276/imagedvj.jpg)

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2152/imagexdc.jpg)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5167/imageuac.jpg)

Really pleased with this. brand new VR6 clutch is to go in with this too

Some of the other bits iv taken from the 16valve GTI i bought for bits are the Twin rad fans which iv cleaned up and fitted my recently new Rad to

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7405/imageelwx.jpg)

(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7540/imagevxw.jpg)

and the rear under cover - dont see many of these!!!

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5903/imageufy.jpg)

and now i have 2 x under engine covers, the 16 valve one has a slightly bigger hole so ill keep the one which i can get to fit my S3 lump

(other is going to Ben so dont bother asking for it haha :grin:)

(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/7667/imagexao.jpg)

and this which iv never ever seen on a GTI before - Sump protector :cool: :cool: think this is why the 16v undercover has a slightly larger hole for the sump, hope i can get this to fit the S3 Sump

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9259/imagedc.jpg)

(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4549/imagebm.jpg)
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 01 June 2011, 21:42
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9259/imagedc.jpg)

I had one of these fitted to my valver up until Monday when mine decided to fly off on the M2 at 70 mph  :wink: The noise it made beneath my car was truly horrific and sh!t the life out of my girlfriend and son. I pulled over to retrieve it but the bastard thing is now smashed.  :sad:
It must have been due to the fact i haven't got my under full under engine cover attached at the moments due to doing some work recently and t6hen the fact it went into have the geometry set up on Saturday so I reckon one of the useless monkey twa@ts have knocked it loose.  :angry:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 01 June 2011, 21:44
Still got this one though.  :smiley:

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5903/imageufy.jpg)
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 01 June 2011, 21:46
Coming along nicely Mr Kells. Do miss my '3
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 June 2011, 21:48
Joe - been a while mate, hope you are well..

all going well, glad you have seen this, was meaning to get in touch  :cool:

thai wronghorse, they seem to only fit with a little plastic pin those sump guards, i think if i use it i will fit it in place a better way
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 01 June 2011, 21:53
Yea man things are good, haven't been on here in months due to work and now having a social life lol but just came into some money so been browsing the classifieds to see what I can treat myself to as it's my 21st birthday next month. Think I saw something about an S3 lump on facebook though so thought I'd check out your thread :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 June 2011, 21:55
Be good to see you back in a 3 mate, a VR or something :-)

have you sold the bora ?  or are you thinking of a second car  :smiley:
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 01 June 2011, 22:11
Will never sell the Bora, love it too much. The birds love it cus they think it's a drug dealers car and the lads love it cus it's not a chavved up Mk4

Wouldn't mind another '3. Got insurance quote on a VR, £1300 :/ Would be a long term project though so insurance wouldn't matter for at least a couple of years. Nearly had myself a Polo 6n the other day in exchange for a set of AMG reps I bought for £60 :tongue: but traded them for £200 cash instead cus a Polos too small for me :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 June 2011, 22:20
should get a VR mate as a project, glad u still got ya bora its a good un
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 01 June 2011, 22:49
Shame really, dads would have been perfect as it already had FK coilovers and a Jetex exhaust but he sold it a couple of months back for £500 :sad: Saying that though I think the head gasket was on its way out :tongue: I'll post up a pic of the Bora in my thread :)
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Post by: benvictors on 03 June 2011, 12:02
Quick update before the real work starts on Sunday  :grin:
As you already know the pedalboxes are different in the early 8v's and aren't possibl to use for the hydro clutch set-up, heres a pic from the engine side of the bulk head through the hole the hydro clutch cylinder would fit
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0684.jpg)
As you can see there is bracket running straight across the hole = TW4T
But, F17BAD's pedalbox is out now -
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0689.jpg)
And the new pedalbox with DBW pedal should be all done by tomorrow morn

Whilst the steering column was out (Gotta come out for pedalbox removal) we decided to upgrade to a newer, adjustable one
New vs old
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0687.jpg)
Stripped em both down
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0690.jpg)
And re-built
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0691.jpg)

Just to be another pain in the arse, the early 8v's had a different brake fluid reservoir, ALL the late models had the same one with a stem off the bottom end for hydro clutch, if on a late 8v it had a sealed end.
The early 8v's didnt have this stem at all, AND, the threads for the solid brake lines were smaller = TW4T
This meant we had to use the original reservoir bracket (the black one for the smaller threads) and the newer reservoir itself (the shiny lookin one with the stem off the side
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0685.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0686.jpg)

The UJ boot was completely fooked
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0692.jpg)
so Brad's ordered a new un from VW, £20 with VAT, should be here in the morn.

Thats about it for now kids, expect lots and lots and lots more from Sunday, woop  :laugh:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 03 June 2011, 12:06
Good bit of progress there... That last pic looks like what happened to mine, manifold burn.  Make sure the next one is wrapped.
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Post by: F17BAD on 04 June 2011, 21:00
Very quick update before the big work starts on the full rebuild tomorrow..

The ultra rare and hard to find 160 MPH Anniversary dials arrived today (Biggest thanks ever go to Edd for sorting these out for me and helping make this car my perfect MK3)

Within 5 minutes of the postman knocking on the door i had these bad boys in bits, like my other set of annie dials these were the later type with fully soldered and sealed chip LEDS for the displays

Proper pics of thes eat night will come at the end of the build but they are converted and awaiting mileage correction - im so happy i have these because i loved my old annie dials but the 140 mph readout was just not enough for this build

(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6548/imagefyn.jpg)

Back to Blue - notice the Chip Leds.. these are the ones that take quite some doing to convert

(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4418/imagetka.jpg)

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1439/imageuyk.jpg)

Here you see the 140 MPH versions next to the 160 MPH versions

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1296/imagehss.jpg)

Also did the final prep of the bay

(http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/4351/imagevtw.jpg)

got the loom all ready to go back in with Audi S3 ECU

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7488/imagejfe.jpg)

and began to tidy up wires in the car, this is a mid way through shot... many many wires needed to be removed for old sh!t the car has had in its previous life

(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1615/imagextr.jpg)


More to come tomorrow
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Post by: dazzawest1987 on 04 June 2011, 21:09
Good work kells been looking for one of those instrument packs aswell, hope allgoes to plan Tomoz mate
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Post by: Wayne on 04 June 2011, 21:30
Great work so far :afro:
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Post by: pablo64 on 04 June 2011, 22:57
 looking good kells, cant wait to this finished  :smiley:  :cool:
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Post by: cняis on 05 June 2011, 01:31

(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1615/imagextr.jpg)


I know your pain right now  :undecided:
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Post by: F17BAD on 05 June 2011, 08:37
Yes Chris I saw yours and I was going to give u a comment wishing you luck haha :laugh: it's no fun is it :laugh:
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Post by: Toby on 05 June 2011, 08:58
Can't wait till tonight :)
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Post by: CCGTI on 05 June 2011, 17:08
Looking good lads
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Post by: benvictors on 05 June 2011, 19:47
Update.....
Yesterday Morn I cracked on with the pedalbox bracket
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0696.jpg)

The stem off the back of the new bracket screws into the car once the box is in situ
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0695.jpg)

Put a bolt on the back of the pedal to take the force when at full throttle
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0698.jpg)

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0697.jpg)

And in the car
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0701.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0700.jpg)

Installed the new adjustable steering column
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0703.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0702.jpg)

Fitted all the hydro clutch set-up and the new engine mounts today also, had to drill a hole for the cable change shifter box to fit properly, as always my measurements were bang  :rolleyes: on so it looks factory  :cool:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0704.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0705.jpg)

Got the loom in and started putting the inside back together, think Brad has more piccy's so I'll let him post some shizzle up  :grin:
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Post by: tdi_blu on 05 June 2011, 19:50
Great work Kell fair play looks like its going to be a quality conversion  :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 05 June 2011, 20:07
finished for today, engine will be in the bay tomo,

today we have

fitted full hybrid OEM loom

(http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/1871/imagepbg.jpg)

(http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/4610/imagenklj.jpg)

fitted the Hydro set up

Fitted all gear linkage

fitted Bens Hybrid Pedal box with the S3 pedal

Had the Anniversary 160 MPH clocks mileage corrected

(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5364/imageabi.jpg)

fitted the full interior apart from drivers seat and middle vents (where the boost gauge will live)

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7798/imagekhg.jpg)

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1098/imagetyy.jpg)

Removed and refitted both front suspension bottom arms and fitted new bushes

OLD

(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/7480/imagefyp.jpg)

NEW

(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/549/imagegu.jpg)

Rain stopped play  (we are doing this outside)

(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6812/imagescp.jpg)

Tomo the Engine says hello to F17BAD

How the car stands right now

(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/7679/imagekvz.jpg)

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7639/imagevxmg.jpg)

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Post by: Wayne on 05 June 2011, 20:42
Excellent progress :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 05 June 2011, 20:55
Very good day had today

Also - The Green dragon MK3 16valver that i took the bits i needed from was sold and picked up today.. so i no longer have to worry about that.. My mate has bought it and is going to have the head gasket fixed  :cool:
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Post by: cняis on 05 June 2011, 21:38
Finished by friday then :afro:  :grin:

Seriously though good work
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Post by: snifferdog on 05 June 2011, 21:42
Excellent work!  :cool:

Cant believe that Ive only just realised its a 5 door. :grin: :grin: :laugh:
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Post by: F17BAD on 05 June 2011, 21:44
Finished by friday then :afro:  :grin:

Seriously though good work

should be finished by then mate, i hope so anyhow

cheers, how is your dash coming on ?


@ Snifferdog, many people fail to spot this too  :grin:
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Post by: archie837 on 05 June 2011, 21:49
Mate you're making fantastic progress, well impressed!

Wish the rod would crack on this fast! Too much welding bits to see a difference at the moment.
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Post by: F17BAD on 05 June 2011, 21:53
tomo (monday) will see engine in the car all been well  :cool:
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Post by: robz on 05 June 2011, 22:07
well done pal!!
you got a proper 5 door one, a lesson people :D
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Post by: dom on 05 June 2011, 22:27
Great work guys, I bet your pretty damn excited about it being finished! Hell i'm excited for you! :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 05 June 2011, 22:32
very very excited Dom..

this is a built car and not bought and we are doing it to a very high standard on my drive with no special tools etc.. and no garage either :grin:

This is our very first engine conversion. im proud of the work thats been done.. it is all top notch

 iv learnt one thing, early mk3 is alot different to late ones  :grin: had to swap out a load of parts. this car is basically getting fully rebuilt!!!!

Its cost me ££££ to do this to the standard i want to but i think its gonna be worth it. Cant wait to drive it. see if it puts a bigger smile on my face than my Swift GTI ever did (that will take some doing)
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 06 June 2011, 07:15
Good work mate! Looking fwd to seeing it in the flesh/metal at some point! :)
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Post by: sharki786 on 06 June 2011, 11:26
 :wink: loving the build. it WILL put a big smile on your face, the MACHINE you are building to your own taste!
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 June 2011, 13:00
Fantastic progress and some great new parts fitted/replaced well so far.

Crunch time looks like it's only round the corner! :afro:
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Post by: Mikester on 06 June 2011, 16:37
Hope all of this rain hasnt dampened the progress. Its been pouring all day here!
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Post by: cняis on 06 June 2011, 18:09
Cue the youtube video showing the engine running minus the exhaust  :grin:

Every engine swap thread has one!
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 19:00
The engine is now in the bay

todays works

prep final bits of engine, including fitment of new VR6 Clutch, Gearbox, silicone TIP and part of my custom stainless downpipe

We had alot of running about to do inbetween all this lot too regarding some tool bits we needed to buy and a visit to a place that does silicone hosing etc (we will be going back their tomo)

anyhow her is some pics from today

(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4624/imagetdm.jpg)

removed air con of S3 lump

(http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/6752/imageeez.jpg)

S3 flywheel v ABF 16v flywheel

(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3285/imagefllk.jpg)

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9853/imagelyh.jpg)

(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/5029/imageanq.jpg)

Engine meets gearbox

(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/2738/imagebx.jpg)

(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5766/imageael.jpg)

had to change rear mount on engine for the ABF part

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9274/imagecvt.jpg)

time for the engine to see its new home

(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8127/imagebyl.jpg)

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1118/imagexgv.jpg)

(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9343/imageiwa.jpg)
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 19:03
(http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/6522/imagetkq.jpg)

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4238/imagevtb.jpg)

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2489/imageeoq.jpg)

Here you can see part of my downpipe

(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/4441/imagewibq.jpg)

Tried the Engine cover, make sure it does not hit the bonnet :-)

(http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/1962/imageay.jpg)


tomo will bolt rest of engine parts on and plug all the wiring in

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Post by: JC on 06 June 2011, 19:04
most excellent progress.  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 19:06
cheers matey
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Post by: pablo64 on 06 June 2011, 19:10
thats looking good , looks OEM just what you want eh kells, nice job your doing
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Post by: lemski on 06 June 2011, 19:12
Good work mate
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 06 June 2011, 19:22
Wow! Nice one mate! Awesome! Looks to be a very full bay now! Not like the old 8v :) where u might fall in, lol
Bet ur getting rather giddy now! Can just imagine that first turn of the key and She fires up! Wish I could be there!

Enjoy mate!
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 19:27
i must admit im getting excited, changed all the insurance over today, every single modification is declaired..

looking forward to getting this project finished  (for now)

got loads more plans, car does not really need it (apart from stone chips to the front) but my mate who owns the bodyshop wants to put his stamp on the car and is wanting to give it a full new coat of paint ... so ill see  :laugh:

i also want some different breaks and some other bits and bobs...

but firs tup will be a remap, prob end of the month when iv got some more cash  :grin:
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Post by: Rhyso on 06 June 2011, 20:00
Looks half tidy like  :tongue:
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Post by: robz on 06 June 2011, 20:34
congrats mate, pulling a cracker out of the bag for the mk3 lads!!
looks a tight fit on there however!
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Post by: dom on 06 June 2011, 20:49
(http://www.favstocks.com/wp-content/uploads/cache/2011/05/37f46-facebook-like-icon.jpg)
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Post by: Junior74 on 06 June 2011, 21:25
Awesome mate!!
Just read through this thread, i'm hooked and insanely jealous, AMAZING!!!!!
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Post by: Wayne on 06 June 2011, 21:29
Awesome, looks really oe with the cover. :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 21:55
OEM is the look im going for with this engine, wanted to use original airbox too but its a bit too large and looks ugly in the bay due to clearance. so its induction kit and headshield thats going to be going on once it arrives (just orederd it)
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Post by: Jack3559 on 06 June 2011, 22:04
Is there no room for a mk3 air box?

That'd keep it OE.
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 22:11
Is there no room for a mk3 air box?

That'd keep it OE.

far too small intake for a start, then its at wrong side of engine too...

my main priority is the engine can breathe right, so im going my trusted K&N induction route, this time with a heatsheild  :cool:
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Post by: golf-sib on 06 June 2011, 22:11
Is there no room for a mk3 air box?

That'd keep it OE.

vr6 airbox maybe thought that was 3"
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 22:15
 Vr box is no way near as big as the S3 one by look of it - and its wrong side of engine... so mk3 box is deffo out the window

plus i have my K&N on its way (TBH its my favoured route as they have never let me down)

just need uprated diverter valve now
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Post by: golf-sib on 06 June 2011, 22:20
Vr box is no way near as big as the S3 one by look of it - and its wrong side of engine... so mk3 box is deffo out the window

plus i have my K&N on its way (TBH its my favoured route as they have never let me down)

just need uprated diverter valve now

You going forge route and you relocating the DV the same way there aftermarket kits do?
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Post by: Toby on 06 June 2011, 22:21
Lobe this!! Cracking progress

Hatres still hating?
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 22:23
golf - sib, i wanna keep it in factory location really. but would like a forge DV

Toby, seems to have calmed down lately hehe :smiley:
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Post by: golf-sib on 06 June 2011, 22:33
golf - sib, i wanna keep it in factory location really. but would like a forge DV

Toby, seems to have calmed down lately hehe :smiley:

The DV relocated will not look out of place depending how you do it, I need to get a picture off mine up and show you with a black forge 007p DV, won't be much extra while your doing the custom pipework for the FMIC... Just keeping options and idea's open.
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 22:36
why would i need to re locate it tho ?

plus i have realised i dont need to do much pipe work for my FMIC, with having the S3 enginbe, i have the main charge pipe fron the turbo already present, i just need to fab up the bits that go down from this to the IC and then on the otherside a short bit from the IC to the TB (which on mine is located on the left of the bay)
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Post by: golf-sib on 06 June 2011, 22:40
DV recirculated air after the turbo back to the intake, the turbo offcourse warms the air up due to the heat involved. Most people relocate the DV after the intercooler so it recirculates cooler air back into the system. Seems a popular mod on the other side off the Atlantic.
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 22:42
ahh makes sense. everyday is a school day  :cool:

will consider this
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Post by: tech1889 on 06 June 2011, 23:29
re-locating makes no difference what so ever.. speak to any tuner and they will say the same.. the only difference is you can see it after relocation for some people this earns scene points maybe ??
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Post by: Bellend on 06 June 2011, 23:30
Perfect, simple.  :cool:
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Post by: golf-sib on 06 June 2011, 23:38
In theory it works and helps, but I doibt it's nothing you will feel in the real world. Never hurts though especially when it can be done easily and cheaply.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 07 June 2011, 12:14
Toby, seems to have calmed down lately hehe :smiley:

You have a collection of parts at the moment.

Let's see it running, eh?

Coating the gearbox in paint was a stupid idea.  It will retain heat more than the bare casing, which may well reduce the life of the 'box.

If there hadn't been endless wittering about this for about two years before anything happened it wouldn't have attracted such derision.
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Post by: cняis on 07 June 2011, 13:24
Toby, seems to have calmed down lately hehe :smiley:

You have a collection of parts at the moment.

Let's see it running, eh?

Coating the gearbox in paint was a stupid idea.  It will retain heat more than the bare casing, which may well reduce the life of the 'box.

If there hadn't been endless wittering about this for about two years before anything happened it wouldn't have attracted such derision.

Can't you just be nice for a change?  :rolleyes:
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Post by: robz on 07 June 2011, 14:01
But think how nice the box looks :D
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Post by: lemski on 07 June 2011, 14:50
Think how nice the whole car will be
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 07 June 2011, 19:55
Can't you just be nice for a change?  :rolleyes:

I am.
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Post by: benvictors on 07 June 2011, 19:58
Can't you just be nice for a change?  :rolleyes:

I am a knob
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Post by: Sam on 07 June 2011, 20:10
This is pretty nice for MR Hell if you read back a few months in the thread haha
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Post by: robz on 07 June 2011, 20:11
ive seen worse dh comments :D
we running yet kells :D
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Post by: Mikester on 07 June 2011, 20:12
Pretty sure there needs to be an update today...
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Post by: cняis on 07 June 2011, 20:12
Well Mr Hell we all know, deep down, that 99.9% of what you say is true. However there are ways of saying it! Constructive and Destructive criticism yada yada... nevermind.

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Post by: golf-sib on 07 June 2011, 20:16
I thought only what he says is right, even when he said he liked men  :undecided:


 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 June 2011, 20:18
Cheers guys for positive comments, means a hell of alot to me because this is going to be my perfect Golf 3 GTI built to the spec i want

anyhow today we got the full loom hooked up, this took a bit of doing as some of the plugs needed swapping over etc and we wanted a factory finish and look in the bay

we had to modify where the wires route, think ben has those pictures so im sure he will upload that lot

we also built up the rest of the engine, we are really close now to finishing this and im so happy.. also happy i dont have to spend much more because its cost ££££ so far

We also got the Intercooler piping sorted - ben did a wicked job of that, perfect!!!,

we flipped the rad on the golf too and modified my slam panel to suit this modification, we did this because the piping on the S3 engine is on the otherside to what my golfs was

My twin rad fan was modified lots to do the mods we wahted and keep a factory look

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9843/imageaxh.jpg)

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8007/imagewso.jpg)

then we got on with the IC

Here is how the pipes join the cooler:

(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/470/imageqcmf.jpg)

(http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/6829/imagewygm.jpg)

(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9767/imagefszz.jpg)

(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/362/imageich.jpg)

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6223/imageqvd.jpg)

(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4025/imagevrl.jpg)

did loads of other niggly little jobs, tomo we have a couple of plugs to add to the loom and one to extend. boost gauge to fit and induction kit.. Plus new diverter Valve if it arrives

Will also give the engine and box new oil, sparkplugs and other service parts and then we will turn the key and see if it lives

My cat has not arrived from USA yet so im still waiting on that

anyhow, its looking good

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/2724/imagezfq.jpg)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7648/imagejog.jpg)

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2598/imageangs.jpg)
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Post by: cняis on 07 June 2011, 20:22
Good news :afro:
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Post by: robz on 07 June 2011, 20:23
You two need a serious man hug for the effort there! Thumbs up guys
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Post by: jamrock on 07 June 2011, 20:32
now that is top notch kells.  :smiley:

5dr mk3 s3!!!! never thought i would like such a combo, but i do!!  :laugh:

really top work so far fella, make sure you get a video up of it running
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 June 2011, 20:40
Cheers for the replies guys  :smiley:
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 07 June 2011, 20:41
Not checked up on this for around a week, pretty f**king good progress made!

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Post by: CCGTI on 07 June 2011, 20:56
looking spot on, bring on the test drive
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Post by: pablo64 on 08 June 2011, 09:05
this is looking wicked cant wait for a vid of it running, nice one
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Post by: *tell* on 08 June 2011, 09:24
looking good  :wink:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 08 June 2011, 14:44
All of sudden this looks like it's really moving now... looking great so far.. when do you think you'll be up and running again?
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 June 2011, 19:25
All of sudden this looks like it's really moving now... looking great so far.. when do you think you'll be up and running again?


Had full day on it today everything g is just about done although still waiting on my custom ct from USA

Finished the wiring, fitted a forge DV and the K&N, serviced the engine and tried to fire her up, it turned over but I'm getting no spark at the plugs, need to hook up to vag com but can't find my lead ARGGHHHH!!!!
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Post by: JC on 08 June 2011, 19:38
now the fun begins  :laugh: good look with the lecktrickery  :evil:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 June 2011, 20:42
cheers LOL :grin: will hook it up to my mates vagcom later tonight if he makes it, if not it will be tomo

Got the Jetex system offered up to the car (minus the cat) and thats looking good.
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Post by: Jimp on 08 June 2011, 22:25
This is progressing so fast  :shocked: Last time I checked the thread you had just bought the engine  :grin: It's going to be seriously sweet when it's up and running :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2011, 18:57
ITS ALIVE

Got it running today and im over the fooking moon, it sounds AWESOME!!!!


videos to come soon!!!!!
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Post by: dom on 09 June 2011, 18:58
ITS ALIVE

Got it running today and im over the fooking moon, it sounds AWESOME!!!!


videos to come soon!!!!!

Wahoo!! Nice one!! :cool:
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Post by: lemski on 09 June 2011, 19:13
Sweet mate well done
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Post by: Khare on 09 June 2011, 19:16
Kells......



All I got to say to you is...







:afro: Nice one! Looks like you're really taking your time with this and doing it right the first time. Can't wait to see the videos!
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Post by: Seanl on 09 June 2011, 19:22
Well happy for you mate, I bet you were grinning from ear to ear!!  :grin: :grin:

What was the problem with the no spark then??
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 09 June 2011, 19:24
well done mate! chuffed for you!  how loud with no exhaust  :evil:

what was wrong with it?
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Post by: jonnypolish on 09 June 2011, 19:33
That engine looks MAJOR fresh!! Dammmm!

Great work mate! even im waiting to hear it running!!!
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2011, 19:37
i ran vag com on my zillion year old xp Laptop, 15 codes came up (all bull sh!te from stuff been un plugged i guess)  i cleared the codes and just tried it

The thing just fired up into life, couldnt believe it, sounds mental with no exhaust :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

need that cat to arrive from the states i cant wait to get this bad boi on the road

biggest shouts ever to ben - some of his work on this was outstanding (and im a fussy bas tard)

jonny - u know me, iv spent alot of time on this engine and everything else, we both wanted to make this look OEM. The wiring is better than it was out the factory..  im very very happy


a few tiny bits to sort, brackets and stuff for the coolant bottle etc and induction kit, and thats about it...

it will then be off for a custom remap
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 09 June 2011, 19:46
how long for the cat to come? any news on it?
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Post by: CCGTI on 09 June 2011, 19:47
what about my help lol taking you out with my broken horn
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Post by: Wayne on 09 June 2011, 20:44
Great result with getting it started. :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2011, 20:54
The Cat is due any time

gonna pop some vids up tomo,

Roger - that was funny with that horn and those creaking noises hahahahahaha

Over the moon right now!!!

3 days of hard work went from a stripped out car to this!!
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Post by: pablo64 on 09 June 2011, 21:15
im well pleased that youve got it up and running kells/ben, excellent job
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Post by: benvictors on 09 June 2011, 21:21
SUPER SUPER SUPER stoked about this firing up  :smiley: :wink: :cool: :grin: :laugh:
Chuffed witht the end result, think we have done an A-MAZING job on it to say it was our first (of many?? :shocked:) conversions
Like Brad said, some odds and sodds to sort out and that god damn cat to turn up and she's on the road  :cool:
Im actually rather shocked at just how well it has gone, without taking into consideration all the fecking about on that green valver we did, it was a 2 day tear down and 4 day re-build  :shocked: 6days from a running, OLD SPEC, 8v, to a running 1.8T  :smug:

Gotta make another housing for the boost gauge as I butchered the old one  :rolleyes:
And as Brad said, a few under the hood brackets to make, expansion tank, carbon cannister and air filter, but I think the plan is to take it to my work once its on the road to do them.

CANT WAIT FOR THE TEST DRIVE  :grin: :grin:
Got some pics from the last couple of days so il start bobbing them up shortly  :cool:
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Post by: Horney on 09 June 2011, 21:43
Would be interested to see a break down of costs. Good work chaps.

Nick
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2011, 21:50
Would be interested to see a break down of costs. Good work chaps.

Nick

cost a fooking lot mate, got all the paperwork for the whole build but dare not tot it up just yet :lipsrsealed: :shocked: :evil:

the engine was not cheap, it was the exact engine i wanted tho and the right miles (40k) and these engines are getting very hard to find with those miles(as i found out). i didnt want one that had been in any other dub or conversion - it had to be one straight from the original car. it took me ages to find the right one i was hapy with (as you lot on here know haha)

Job could be done for a couple of K less if you chose a regular 20 VT.  We used the best of everything we could for this, everything had to be spot on. im so happy because this car is close to been what i had in my dream

I want Big bad ass breaks and a LSD next..  but the remap is next soon as i get paid :laugh:


Bens car is getting a V6 engine too so that should be a fun project when it happens

 
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Post by: dom on 09 June 2011, 21:56
Would be interested to see a break down of costs. Good work chaps.

Nick

I'd also be very interested to know the totals if you dare add them up :grin:

If you ever do work it out (and don't mind sharing the info) hit me up with a PM, i'd love to know how much this conversion actually costs doing it to a high standard :wink:
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Post by: Wayne on 09 June 2011, 22:02
What are you planning for brakes.
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Post by: golf-sib on 09 June 2011, 22:08
F*ck the brakes I am tired of all this engine talk and no vids.... get them UP
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2011, 22:09
Breaks wise

thinking brembo off the Cupra r if they will go behind my 16" (dont think they will)

or some kind of Porker breaks

A few pics of the engine

(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5885/imageukp.jpg)


(http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/6043/imageno.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1210/imagerwe.jpg)

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3343/imageran.jpg)

(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3282/imagepyd.jpg)

(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/1125/imagewub.jpg)

Videos tomo
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Post by: Mikester on 09 June 2011, 22:10
Porsche brakes i think it has to be given the wheels if they would fit. Maybe boxster ones like people fit to mk4's and a3's.
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Post by: tshirt2k on 09 June 2011, 22:43
 Looks like a your doing well so far. :afro: be careful getting used to double the 8v power.
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2011, 22:50
Looks like a your doing well so far. :afro: be careful getting used to double the 8v power.

im used to more power, my swift gti was/is 150 odd bhp and thats like a biscuit tin, miss that power so im glad to be back :evil:  cant wait to get it mapped up :-)

cheers for all your help BTW, you have been a star!..  very close now to finisihing this, so nhappy it works as does everything else inside the car etc
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Post by: jonnypolish on 09 June 2011, 22:58
Im intrigued to know the costing of this!
If i ever get out of drifting (Which i doubt  :embarassed:)
I want to R32 my old girl! if i still have her!

Looks f00king tidy man, very impressed. Although you have always been an OEM/Clean PERVERT  :grin:
Im up in august and cant wait to see this! See if you can catch me :evil:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 09 June 2011, 23:08
That looks bloody good and actually belongs in that bay. Top work guys, I'd love one one of these in mine.
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 09 June 2011, 23:10
My only criticism would be that it appears to be a tad crowded on the right hand side due to the cone filter, battery and washer bottle. Still awesome though.
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2011, 23:13
cheers for the comments, really bloody happy with this, cant believe its all working !! haha, lots more to come from this car in the future.... :cool: :lipsrsealed: :evil:

looks ok in person, toyed with idea of moving battery or the washer bottle for a mk4 item on the other side because i need cold air to the induction kit and space is tight haha  we will see
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Post by: cняis on 09 June 2011, 23:56
One thing at a time, however if you decide to relocate the battery then a BMW E36 would be a good start, you can use the battery cable (its very heavy gauge and long) and the associated distribution block in the engine bay. High quality and cheap enough from a breakers yard :afro:
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Post by: Bellend on 09 June 2011, 23:57
I soooooo wish I was a part of this.

Such an epic conversion.

Top work, well done lads!  :cool:
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Post by: Wayne on 10 June 2011, 00:04
Brakes wise

thinking brembo off the Cupra r if they will go behind my 16" (dont think they will)

or some kind of Porker breaks

A few pics of the engine

(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/1125/imagewub.jpg)


I believe 312mm is the biggest that will fit behind 16", engine bay looks great  :smiley:, might be worth looking at moving the battery to the boot
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Post by: Rhyso on 10 June 2011, 07:37
Wayne is correct - 312mm will fit behind 16's; Cupra R brakes need 17's at a minimum

Looks awesome  :cool:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 10 June 2011, 07:49
312 mm aren't necessary. Later mk3 288mm with decent pads will do. Will mean you can still fit a 15" spare or the standard gti wheels for the winter etc.
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 10 June 2011, 09:30
That looks fookin' sh!t.

























 :grin: Only joking. Fair play, got it in and to an extremely high standard by the looks and sounds of it so I hope it runs and stays well for you. :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 June 2011, 09:42
Cheers for the replies, we are over the moon with it. Will get a video up of it running later :-)
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Post by: VR6_Wherry on 10 June 2011, 09:44
Cheers for the replies, we are over the moon with it. Will get a video up of it running later :-)
Have you taken it for a blast? The sound is amazing!  :cool:
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Post by: Misky on 10 June 2011, 10:07
Great work Brad! Im defo poping upto Leeds now!  :laugh:
This car is crying for a mag shoot!!!
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 June 2011, 10:19
Not taken it on the road yet as I'm waiting to fit the cat once that arrives :-)

Can't wait to drive it, car finally has the engine it deserves !!!   :cool:

Misky, cheers for that :-)
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 June 2011, 19:35
Here is a quick video of the engine running, i have more which ill upload later

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EVRbuDQ5Kg
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 10 June 2011, 21:00
Sounds awesome! Love the sound of the turbo! :)
Can it be heard so well cos of no exhaust? Or will it still be obvious with exhaust fitted? 
gonna be fantastic! Well done!

I remember my mate years ago started his freshly made rs turbo onion and it had no exhaust, and you could here the turbo spool up and down, was awesome!  Btw it was surprisingly quick and torque steered horrifically!

Will the beast torque steer as well? Don't want it catching u out!
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Post by: Jimp on 10 June 2011, 21:19
It's awesome to hear the car running  :cool: Great work turning it around so fast man :afro: Are you taking it to any of the summer shows?
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 June 2011, 21:25
Should be able to hear the turbo just the same, exhaust is straight thru from Turbo back, the cat iv got coming is non restrictive  :cool:

will prob torque steer, my swift gti did with its 150hp motor, i dont  mind that tho

Jimp hope to take it to as many as i can, wanna hit ED38.. think car is gonna get fresh paint soon
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Post by: neil1780 on 10 June 2011, 21:36
Awesome mate well done, oem look is by far the tidiest imo :afro:
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Post by: Wayne on 10 June 2011, 21:39
Sounds sweet as  :cool:
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Post by: Bellend on 11 June 2011, 01:13
*told you id take the car off the road by May didnt i hehe

Is the 8V motor out?

Is the car off the road?

You've bought an engine.

That's not an engine conversion, that's buying some parts.

As for timescales, remind me when you started blathering on about putting a 20VT in it?

This could run aground yet.

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSyxxOe2a6FRWSH8zVijgGBpO9kjUutax6y4AaS3aSh7fapealJfQ)
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 09:43
That's the reply of the year :grin: :grin:
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Post by: Dmonday on 11 June 2011, 10:04
Sounds like it's running perfect ;) congrats man, i would be well happy with it!
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 12:27
Cheers dude, proper happy with it  :cool:
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Post by: cняis on 11 June 2011, 14:56
I bet you're chuffed to bits!  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 16:29
I bet you're chuffed to bits!  :laugh:


Really happy mate yea, just want this cat to turn up from the states now  :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Jimp on 11 June 2011, 21:39
@Bellend  :grin: :laugh:
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Post by: *tell* on 11 June 2011, 21:50
well done and looking and sounding good  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 22:06
Boost gauge is now fitted

(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5097/imageyyt.jpg)

(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/689/imageiwe.jpg)

(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5784/imagextp.jpg)

changed illumination from white to blue to match my interior mods

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/892/imagelzgn.jpg)

(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/104/imageaet.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Bellend on 11 June 2011, 22:10
Boost gauge, awesome!  :cool:

Carbon,  :undecided:

Is there any other carbon bits in the car?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Bellend on 11 June 2011, 22:10
@Bellend  :grin: :laugh:

 :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 22:12
yea the lettering on the numberplates is carbonfibre mate..  it was black but was not happy with the finish, i like it. for now it stays.. well at least untill we fabricate another panel (its made from metal)

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Wayne on 11 June 2011, 22:15
Boost gauge looks good. :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 22:17
cheers wayne mate, happy with it  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Bellend on 11 June 2011, 22:20
yea the lettering on the numberplates is carbonfibre mate..  it was black but was not happy with the finish, i like it. for now it stays.. well at least untill we fabricate another panel (its made from metal)



Fair do's.

Looks quality work as usual though!  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 22:26
Cheers bruv.. see how i get on with it.. can easily switch to plain black again if i change the old mind on it :-)

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Bellend on 11 June 2011, 22:29
Cheers bruv.. see how i get on with it.. can easily switch to plain black again if i change the old mind on it :-)



No worries man, hope I can do my 16v conversion (would be 1.8t or VR but £££) to the same level, don't care if it takes the full 6 months, want it right. Is just so much better. Car's gotta be worth a fair bit now! Especially if you get it blown over!
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Post by: cняis on 11 June 2011, 22:36
Cheers bruv.. see how i get on with it.. can easily switch to plain black again if i change the old mind on it :-)



No worries man, hope I can do my 16v conversion (would be 1.8t or VR but £££) to the same level, don't care if it takes the full 6 months, want it right. Is just so much better. Car's gotta be worth a fair bit now! Especially if you get it blown over!

Erm, just buy an original 16v or VR?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 22:39
insurance have agreed the value to 7.5k!!!!   :smiley:

car will be getting new paint, does not really need it but the front end has age related stone chips (the car is almost 19 year sold and on original paint)

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: cняis on 11 June 2011, 22:43
insurance have agreed the value to 7.5k!!!!   :smiley:

car will be getting new paint, does not really need it but the front end has age related stone chips (the car is almost 19 year sold and on original paint)



colour change?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: jamrock on 11 June 2011, 22:44
well done kells.  :smiley:

looking proper OEM that is.
 :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 22:48
insurance have agreed the value to 7.5k!!!!   :smiley:

car will be getting new paint, does not really need it but the front end has age related stone chips (the car is almost 19 year sold and on original paint)



colour change?

absolutly not matey..

took me ages to find a flat black early mk3 GTI, will be same colour. as i say it does not really need it, but seen as iv now gone this far.....

plus one of my best mates owns a Bodyshop and is wanting to put his stamp on the car.. who am i to stand in his way  :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Bellend on 11 June 2011, 22:48
Cheers bruv.. see how i get on with it.. can easily switch to plain black again if i change the old mind on it :-)



No worries man, hope I can do my 16v conversion (would be 1.8t or VR but £££) to the same level, don't care if it takes the full 6 months, want it right. Is just so much better. Car's gotta be worth a fair bit now! Especially if you get it blown over!

Erm, just buy an original 16v or VR?

Not my thread but no.

Cheaper insurance on a conversion and my car and want to keep it that way, plus the shell is rust free.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: cняis on 11 June 2011, 22:51
Cheers bruv.. see how i get on with it.. can easily switch to plain black again if i change the old mind on it :-)



No worries man, hope I can do my 16v conversion (would be 1.8t or VR but £££) to the same level, don't care if it takes the full 6 months, want it right. Is just so much better. Car's gotta be worth a fair bit now! Especially if you get it blown over!

Erm, just buy an original 16v or VR?

Not my thread but no.

Cheaper insurance on a conversion and my car and want to keep it that way, plus the shell is rust free.


Ok well i wont clutter up brads thread anymore but surely you're reshelling a 16v as you'd want all the car except the panels. I cant see how insurance will be cheaper on a conversion  :undecided:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Bellend on 11 June 2011, 22:59
Cheers bruv.. see how i get on with it.. can easily switch to plain black again if i change the old mind on it :-)



No worries man, hope I can do my 16v conversion (would be 1.8t or VR but £££) to the same level, don't care if it takes the full 6 months, want it right. Is just so much better. Car's gotta be worth a fair bit now! Especially if you get it blown over!

Erm, just buy an original 16v or VR?

Not my thread but no.

Cheaper insurance on a conversion and my car and want to keep it that way, plus the shell is rust free.


Ok well i wont clutter up brads thread anymore but surely you're reshelling a 16v as you'd want all the car except the panels. I cant see how insurance will be cheaper on a conversion  :undecided:

Lol Sorry Brad!

Because it will be a 2l 16v Golf. Not a "GTi". It won't have the badge kinda thing.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 22:59
hehe its ok guys   :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: pablo64 on 12 June 2011, 10:02
Boost gauge looks cool as does your dash illumination, loving this car, excellent attention to detail, ideal mk3 respect matey
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 12 June 2011, 19:28
Loving the boost gauge, great idea :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 12 June 2011, 19:53
Like the idea of the boost gauge but don't like the location. Looks weird without the heater vent there.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 June 2011, 20:34
its my prefered location - tried a it on the cowling infront of the dials and i hated it as it looked too fussy for my liking and i didnt want it jap style on the A pillar..  i dont use those middle vents, i never have because of the dust it causes (my OCD) so this is the ideal location to use for me.

TBH, its a case of functionality over aesthetics really, that said, i love it so its all good  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 June 2011, 22:23
I think it looks pretty good there as well and like yourself, never ever use the centre vents.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 June 2011, 22:33
yeah its in perfect vision too from drivers seat. and i like making use of the vents i dont ever use - you know the score  :smiley:

Just been with my mate Mj (mj interiors)  might get him to trim the panel in leather ha - he says he will do if i want.. kind of like the carbon fibre tho now... ill see how i get on with it :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: cняis on 12 June 2011, 23:33
I have this to compliment your boost gauge if you like, all i'd ask for is postage. It uses a 501 bulb in the back which can easily be swapped for a blue LED.

http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?a=i&k=s&p=134GOPEBARW

(http://www.larkspeed.com/intricart/product/image1/134GOPEBARW.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: mark-mk3gti on 13 June 2011, 06:34
What about mounting in the drivers dash speaker grill, seen somewhere that the cover was lifted and a panel made so it sits raised and 2 gauges mounted, will try and find the pic today, then you could keep oem vents appearance and fit an oil pressure gauge, thought you'd be wanting one on this bad boy :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 June 2011, 09:54
mark let me know

chris - that is a mighty fine offer - really appreciate that, not sure if i wanna run 2 gauges yet, but if i do ill take u up on this offer - you are a top guy   :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: cняis on 13 June 2011, 13:36
mark let me know

chris - that is a mighty fine offer - really appreciate that, not sure if i wanna run 2 gauges yet, but if i do ill take u up on this offer - you are a top guy   :wink: :cool:

No probs, I recently pulled it out of the dash and wont need it. Doesnt come with a sender though so I cant check if it works (or can I run 12v through it to check?)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 June 2011, 14:02
i will let you know if i need it mate, many thanks for the offer - means a lot to me.. got you all wrong before mate  :wink: :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Mikester on 13 June 2011, 16:45
So is it raining CATS and dogs yet in your letter box?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Seanl on 13 June 2011, 16:55
+1!! Need daily update fix now!!!!!  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: benvictors on 13 June 2011, 20:03
Still waiting on the cat, it left america on Friday so shouldn't be too long now  :cool:
Brads ordered the mk4 washer bottle, oil pressure sensor t-piece, oil temp sensor and new PAS pump plug which will all be here on Wednesday so that lot will keep us busy Wednesday night, gotta get a silicone bend for the air filter re-location too.
The coolant flange off the side of the engine interfered with the gearbox tower weight so I'm on with re-shaping the weight at work so it fits nice an snug, that should be ready to go back on Wednesday too.

Lots and lots of work gone into this that we haven't illustrated yet, we modified the radiator housing and flipped the radiator so the coolant hoses are on the right like on the Audi, which meant we had to extend the thermostat wiring.
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0745.jpg)
Had to source an ignition live in the bay for the inline coolant pump for the turbo, spliced into the reverse switch for that and run a new plug to the pump,
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0747.jpg)
had to extend the MAF wiring so it sat in the bay nicer and ran to the MAF nicely. Extended the carbon canistor plug for the re-location.
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0717.jpg)
Had to cut an additional hole on the bulk head so the new loom ran inside rather than across the engine
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0714.jpg)

sh!t loads more pics to come  :grin:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0749.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: benvictors on 13 June 2011, 20:22
Ran the boost gauge pipe the old route of the clutch cable and utilised the rubber bungs to make a seal through the bulk head
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0758.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0757.jpg)
Chopped up the centre console for the fitment of the boost gauge, fitted the back plate in with double sided tape to prevent movement
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0737.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0733.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0734.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0736.jpg)


spliced into the heated seat loom for the illumination
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0739.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: benvictors on 13 June 2011, 20:26
A few more pics of my (rather amazing  :smug: :smug:) intercooler piping
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0728.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0727.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0726.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0725.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0724.jpg)

And what we had to chop away for fitment
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0719.jpg)
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 13 June 2011, 20:41
hi mate, struggling to find the pic now, best i could find of one very similar but not finished fitting, is this

(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/mark3gti/Golf%20Mk3%20GTI%208v/spkrpod2.jpg)

the gauges should be level and tucked slightly at the front and then blended in, so the grill and panel are all nice and neat,  here it looks like its plonked for testing, im still looking for the pic i saw, but it could literaly be anywhere...

this also looked fairly neat too

(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/mark3gti/Golf%20Mk3%20GTI%208v/spkrpod1.jpg)

but would need tweeks if you still have tweaters there :)
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 13 June 2011, 20:54
Now this is very cool.

(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/mark3gti/Golf%20Mk3%20GTI%208v/spkrpod1.jpg)
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Post by: neil1780 on 13 June 2011, 21:36
Now this is very cool.

(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/mark3gti/Golf%20Mk3%20GTI%208v/spkrpod1.jpg)

+1 looks well cool
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: mark-mk3gti on 13 June 2011, 21:53
I do like the other idea as well, less obvious and more subtle, but the pic I saw was much better than this one, but it only takes a bit of thought provoking and I'm sure ben v will design something quality... :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: jamrock on 13 June 2011, 22:38
sh!t loads more pics to come  :grin:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0749.jpg)
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i reckon you re locate the batterto the boot.

then if you want you can exstend the filter down toward the fog light area and do a cold air intake.

if not just the battery in the boot will make this pop!!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 June 2011, 22:45
Not keen on battery in boot tbh, so what we are doing is replacing the washer bottle that's next to the battery at the moment with a mk4 item because on a mk4 they sit on the other side of the bay like in the S3. The induction kit is a K&N and is like a oval shape, if we turn it on it's side it fits perfect where the current washer bottle is down the side of the battery ;-)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: tshirt2k on 13 June 2011, 23:28
I'd advise making yourself a leak tester for those boost pipes. Jubilee type clamps don't usually clamp hard enough. I had major leaks when I first did mine and was using mikalor type clamps. You need to pressurise it up to around 20psi to make sure its leak free. As that's what a remapped one usually boost at.  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 09:31
I'd advise making yourself a leak tester for those boost pipes. Jubilee type clamps don't usually clamp hard enough. I had major leaks when I first did mine and was using mikalor type clamps. You need to pressurise it up to around 20psi to make sure its leak free. As that's what a remapped one usually boost at.  :wink:

which type am i best switching to? ill get whatever is best?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 June 2011, 10:20
Great work going on here, not looked in a while but I must say I'm impressed.  Not long now then eh?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 10:51
Thanks mate, basically just waiting for Colin the cat to arrive from the states.

A few brackets to fabricate up and that's it, then I'll run her for a few weeks see if anything needs swapping about etc. Once happy I'll go get the bespoke remap, also prob dump the oil after a few thousand miles and re fill, plus drop the sump and clean it all out including the pick up pipe. Would have done this before but wanted to make sure it ran before I start taking bits off haha ;-)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 June 2011, 10:58
Thanks mate, basically just waiting for Colin the cat to arrive from the states.

A few brackets to fabricate up and that's it, then I'll run her for a few weeks see if anything needs swapping about etc. Once happy I'll go get the bespoke remap, also prob dump the oil after a few thousand miles and re fill, plus drop the sump and clean it all out including the pick up pipe. Would have done this before but wanted to make sure it ran before I start taking bits off haha ;-)

Sounds like a good plan... Try not to plant your foot until you're really happy everything is good, the temptation will be hard to resist though!  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 11:09
Really can't wait to drive it. Gonna be a
Big change from the old 8v lump
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 June 2011, 11:12
Really can't wait to drive it. Gonna be a
Big change from the old 8v lump

BIG indeed... take a long time for you to get bored of it I think... you wouldn't even have to tank it to appreciate it.
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 11:45
Really can't wait to drive it. Gonna be a
Big change from the old 8v lump

BIG indeed... take a long time for you to get bored of it I think... you wouldn't even have to tank it to appreciate it.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking too, tbh I was never board of the car before and I'm usually used to more powerfully cars than the 8v, It was never as bad as folk make out on the forums 
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Post by: Horney on 14 June 2011, 14:10
The need for more power never goes away. A mate of mine had a 2.0 Type R powered classic mini. It was mental fast, like 911 beating fast. He got bored so supercharged it. That kept him happy for about 6 months then he had to break out the Nos to get the thrill. To be honest the thing was lethal, would spin the front wheels at 130mph in top gear in the dry and topped out at 146mph bouncing off the limiter. Proper frightening but proper cool.

Anyhoo, this is all going swimmingly, look forward to the reviews after it's completed.

nick
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Post by: robz on 14 June 2011, 14:33
looking good kells! exciting stuff!

nick, was that the red one?? forget his name now.. off minifinity :D immense!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 14 June 2011, 14:41
Got any idea when the Cat is due down matey? is there an ETA?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 14:59
Colin (the Cat) left chicago on the 10th of this month so shpuld be in UK now

HOWEVER....


just had a chat to my MOT guy at the local Performance centre (BHP Centre - Batley)  and he was just telling me the laws on the cats were revised recently, and now cars up to August 94 can pass on the old legislation which means my car falls into this band (No cat needed :rolleyes:) 

My custom downpipe is so long (so you can modify at your own spec to fit whatever exhaust you want) and it is about bang on to fitting my Jetex without no cat, if i add the fitment pipe you get with the jetex i think it will fit with minimal been needed to cut off the downpipe..

Car booked in for MOT friday, cat or no cat haha, gonna trial fit tonight with no cat, see if it will work..

my oil sensor arrives at the dealer tomo (genuine parts used) as does my MK4 golf windscreen washer bottle and new Dipstick from audi plus a few other little service bits i need

i just need to get a silicone bit to extend my induction kit so i can mount this were the mk3 windscreen bottle is at present, then we are all good

Car could be on the road FRIDAY!!!!!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 14 June 2011, 15:48
brill mate!
fingers crossed it flys through!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 June 2011, 16:09
Good Luck for the MOT then!  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 14 June 2011, 17:27
Good stuff! You still going to run the cat when it turns up or are you just gonna forget about it?

Can't wait to see the videos of it in action....gonna be immense! :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 14 June 2011, 17:41
Good luck for the mot. :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 14 June 2011, 17:43
Is the really the new legislation :huh: Any other proof other what your mate said? Wold like to know this for my new ventre  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: snifferdog on 14 June 2011, 19:19
I got excited about the no cat thing and then realised that I have a mk4 now  :grin: :grin: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: mark-mk3gti on 14 June 2011, 19:26
I got excited about the no cat thing and then realised that I have a mk4 now  :grin: :grin: :rolleyes:


me too, then remember mines 96, lol :(
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 14 June 2011, 19:54
just clicked.. mine is a '93, so i dont need to run a cat???
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 20:04
Cheers guys ;-)

Adam, he is the mot main man at BHP Centre, which is the place I always use for my MOT. he said it had just come in, I have no other proof than his word, he did say along as the pre cat lambda was present all is good so we will see.

Uv already got the guys who made my Downpipe sending me a small pile to join it directly to my jetex system, if it passes Mot I'm running this bad boy with NO cat and ben can use the custom cat for his V6 project at a later date

We will see what happens
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 14 June 2011, 20:10
I believe any car first used on and after 1 August 1992 has to have a cat  :smiley:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 20:21
I believe any car first used on and after 1 August 1992 has to have a cat  :smiley:




yea i thought so, he said its recetly been revised, august 94 is now the date... we will see if she passes without Colin the CAT :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 14 June 2011, 20:28
look forward to the results then!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 14 June 2011, 20:43
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Seat-Leon-Cupra-R-Audi-A3-Golf-Bora-Brembo-Brakes-/160603634983?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2564b8fd27

you might be interested in these mate
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 20:58
i was offered some of these from where my engine came from, but i dont think they fit behind 16" rims
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 14 June 2011, 21:11
i was offered some of these from where my engine came from, but i dont think they fit behind 16" rims

They won't 316mm is the biggest you can get behind 16" rims.

312mm set up is really good however, they have lots of feel.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: tshirt2k on 14 June 2011, 22:03
I'd advise making yourself a leak tester for those boost pipes. Jubilee type clamps don't usually clamp hard enough. I had major leaks when I first did mine and was using mikalor type clamps. You need to pressurise it up to around 20psi to make sure its leak free. As that's what a remapped one usually boost at.  :wink:

which type am i best switching to? ill get whatever is best?

Mikalor are the best type. Like these. Just get size you need.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PACK-4-Mikalor-W2-Supra-Clamps-59-63mm-Stainless-/390282095170?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5adea02a42#ht_3220wt_689 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PACK-4-Mikalor-W2-Supra-Clamps-59-63mm-Stainless-/390282095170?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5adea02a42#ht_3220wt_689)

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: cняis on 15 June 2011, 13:36
Re cats and MOT requirements, I've heard nothing at work regards moving the date from 92 to 94 so i'm interested to see the outcome  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 15 June 2011, 13:40
so am i as wanna mot mine next month :D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 June 2011, 13:57
will be interesting, really hope it passes as id prefere to run no cat.. more power  :evil:

we are gonna finish up fitting the new oil sensors tonight and build front end up fully and tomo ill have the small bit of pipe needed to fit the exhaust and then we will give it the first ever road test. The guys who made the downpipe have very kindly made it for me out of St/ST  - Company is Trackslag.com...  check these guys out

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 15 June 2011, 14:05
man im getting excited, you must be wetting yourself haha
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 June 2011, 14:26
it still feels like a dream mate..

spent a long time planning this to perfection an got a boat load of stick, sly digs and bollox on here for doing so, but i stuck to my guns im glad i did it the way i have because i would not change a thing about the conversion. im over the moon cant imagine what its gonna be like to drive

so much more to come with this car too...
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: pablo64 on 15 June 2011, 14:43
Dont matter what anybody else thinks, youve done what you said you would and you now have a great car, what you,ve acheived is awesome, well done, looking forward to seeing vids
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 15 June 2011, 14:46
haters gonna hate brad, you knows this :D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 June 2011, 14:59
:-)

Pablo64 - did you see the video of it running with no exhaust? if not then search u tube for F17BAD  :cool:

more vids to come
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 15 June 2011, 22:50
Hope it all goes ok for you mate :) I just got my cat welded yesterday so will be fitting it on the weekend but interested to see how yours goes without one good luck!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 June 2011, 22:57
Cheers mate

got front end back on, just got to re fill the coolant tomo, fit my exhaust using the bit of pipe ill be getting delivered tomo and tighten the driveshaft bolts up and the car is ready to roll

see what friday brings.. Tomo will be first day ill be driving this car on the road!!!! :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 16 June 2011, 08:54
enjoy today dude ;)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 09:01
Will be this evening when i get to finish up on F17BAD. Cant wait. car looking good on the drive now its all back in 1 piece   :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 16 June 2011, 09:08
Meh this will never happen





















 :grin:


Good work kells, build a cool mk3 and shut dh up at the same time, two birds, one stone  :cool:


Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 16 June 2011, 09:15
:D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 09:26
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

many thanks matey :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: T_J_G on 16 June 2011, 12:33
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Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 13:55
My custom Decat Section has arrived

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1761/imagejkz.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: pablo64 on 16 June 2011, 14:20
Kells must have missed vid, anyway just looked, sounds real sweet even with no  exhaust, brilliant job you've, pipe looks  :cool: , you going to fit it then wi you saying you dont need one, good luck with MOT tomoz matey  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 14:28
Cheers mate, fitting it tonight, then ill be test driving the car and MOT tomo

the video is here for those who missed it

First time running - no exhaust

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EVRbuDQ5Kg
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 16 June 2011, 14:31
Stick with no zaust  :smiley: :smiley:  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 14:33
hehe wish i could  :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: mellow yellow on 16 June 2011, 15:04
good luck with the mot kells, hope it flies through!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Misky on 16 June 2011, 15:13
I have every faith this beauty will pass without a single problem! As Brads high standard of work and persuit of perfection will not let anything slip  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 15:34
Cheers for that :cool:, everything should be ok, just the no cat issue. the Cat thats coming from the states is currently "been processed" my UK Customs

so if we do need it, it should not be long till we have it.. i hope i dont need it tho, would rather run with no cat
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 16 June 2011, 15:42
Take the test, its will fail for no cat then you have x amount of days to have a mega cheap re-test which will simply be has it got a cat... yes... PASS! Also this would make you aware of any little niggles that the car may have.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 16:13
yes mate, exactly my thoughts. we will see how it goes

(Good luck with yours btw and the niggles you have with that at the mo)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 16 June 2011, 16:19
yes mate, exactly my thoughts. we will see how it goes

(Good luck with yours btw and the niggles you have with that at the mo)

Niggles!? The engine fell out and the door fell off haha
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 16:21
yes mate, exactly my thoughts. we will see how it goes

(Good luck with yours btw and the niggles you have with that at the mo)

Niggles!? The engine fell out and the door fell off haha

Oh god, best if luck with that, I'm gonna take a read of your thread later
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: benvictors on 16 June 2011, 23:17
OH
MY
GOD
ITS
FAST  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 23:20
Its Brutal as fook :evil:

no mot tomo tho as no fan kicking in and also my clocks are either not working or theirs is another issue with them - only rev counter working, fuel gauge going mad and no speedo.. not sure whats going on their yet
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 16 June 2011, 23:42
Quick then  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 17 June 2011, 00:42
Nearly as quick as the almighty 8v then?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 17 June 2011, 06:16
haha, gutted about the mot though mate!
hope it all comes together well!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 June 2011, 09:37
Car is lethal, !!!  like a totally different car to before, exhaust sounds great too, pretty quiet not chavvy at all which i was worried about. You can hear the engine more and that sounds sweet.. its just what i wanted.. :cool:

not sure whats going on with clocks, been told maybe a dodgy earth to them, not sure where to look on that one just yet ?

Regarding over heating issue, checked fan by bridging it on the plug and both speeds work, but bottom hose is not getting warm and neither are the fans inside the car.. Airlock ??????


Battery light coming on, and today battery was almost flat so i think iv got alternator wired in wrong.. will check this later
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 17 June 2011, 09:46
Speedo not working could be the sensor on top of the gearbox if its similar to the MK4 setup  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 17 June 2011, 10:01
Speedo not working could be the sensor on top of the gearbox if its similar to the MK4 setup  :smiley:

Could be karma from bragging!

 :grin:

Good luck getting it sorted though, I know how much of a sh¡tter it is when the little things don't go to plan.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 17 June 2011, 10:09

Regarding over heating issue, checked fan by bridging it on the plug and both speeds work, but bottom hose is not getting warm and neither are the fans inside the car.. Airlock ??????


Yep sounds like a airlock.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 June 2011, 11:07
Firstly whos bragging :grin: iv had too much hate from a few people, i think i have the right to be happy about what has been acheived - this is not bragging   :smiley:

think its bad earth on the clocks, it is all plugged in on the g/box, Alternator wired wrong and a air lock.. so hopefully nothing major. gonna try fix these bugs this afternoon.. wanna get this on the road because that power is very adictive!!!! gonna have to watch my rubber tho, was easy to get it to spin
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: mark-mk3gti on 17 June 2011, 11:17
Speedo not working could be the sensor on top of the gearbox if its similar to the MK4 setup  :smiley:

Could be karma from bragging!

 :grin:

Good luck getting it sorted though, I know how much of a sh¡tter it is when the little things don't go to plan.


Don't get it, when's he bragged? I've read and kept up with brads thread and don't recall bragging, nothing wrong with being happy bout what your doing, and it is in his dub ride thread, not like he's in the mk3 section saying his mk3 is better than anyone else's, (although he could :) )
Sorry, just don't understand why people have to say silly things, bugs me, but that's my opinion, I'm sure you meant it in jest and not how it read...

Good luck with fixing the niggles, isnt the earth for the clocks where the bonnet pull is: behind the plastic panel? There is one there could be worth a clean? Also could try putting other clocks In; to confirm it's not your knew ones..

Good luck mate....
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 17 June 2011, 11:23
 :grin: :rolleyes:

I think you've missed the point.

I was joking anyway.

oem rare parts for the golf 3 are stuff like  16v anniversary clocks, and yeah iv got some  :cool: :drool:  :smug: 

Plus the amount of times I've read on here about a low milage S3 engine!

You've got every right to be proud, you and Ben are doing a good job.

I was kidding about the bragging thing.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 17 June 2011, 11:33
:grin: :rolleyes:

I think you've missed the point.

I was joking anyway.

oem rare parts for the golf 3 are stuff like  16v anniversary clocks, and yeah iv got some  :cool: :drool:  :smug: 

Plus the amount of times I've read on here about a low milage S3 engine!

You've got every right to be proud, you and Ben are doing a good job.

I was kidding about the bragging thing.

Brad never bites anymore, he's used to people taking the p!ss  :grin:

Anyway it's more of a smugness/proudness, he knows it's awesome and we all know it's awesome.  :cool: :smug: Time and effort has always gone into this Golf and has always paid off.  :smiley:

There is only a small amount of times people can say "That's amazing!"  :grin:

Magazine feature soon, i bet you! :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 June 2011, 11:37
Thanks for that wherry,
 :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: sharki786 on 17 June 2011, 15:12
loving the turbo wistle.
I remember when i was in dewsbury and was driving back from dewsbury delights and saw kells car at night. all i said was farking hell that looks sexy! and i think i flashed at you but cant remember. when im next down in dews il pop over to you see the sketch!  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Horney on 17 June 2011, 15:19
Good luck man. From having done a  few home brew engine swaps it's the gremlins and fault finding after the main part that's been done that alwys drives me potty. It will give you grief for a few weeks once it's on the road ans expect to call the AA at least once but when it's settled and all sorted it feels like such an awesome achievement.

Nick
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 June 2011, 15:59
Cheers guys ;-)

Update time

Overheating issue is all ok I think it's just a bad earth to the clocks which in turn is giving false readings. Had it running for 20 mins and the needle never past the half way mark, bottom hose got warm as did the heaters. I did get some air out of the system tho so maybe it was a air lock.

Alternator issue is sorted, was a bad connection

Only issue now is the bad earth to the clocks, the maf does not work either but does when the battery charger is connected to the battery and turned on

Getting very close now to hititing the road again
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 June 2011, 16:23
Charging battery while i type

(http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/4926/imagefum.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Len on 17 June 2011, 16:25
with 240 volts! :shocked:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: mark-mk3gti on 17 June 2011, 16:45
with 240 volts! :shocked:

Lol, think if u look real close there is a charger on top of battery, least I hope that's what it is! :)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 17 June 2011, 16:46
with 240 volts! :shocked:

Its an S3 BAM engine, they all take 240volts  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Len on 17 June 2011, 16:50
I cant see any charger! Just a black cable going into engine bay!



On another note - Brad you really must get a set of chrome bonnet lifters! They really are a must for showing off that engine! :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 17 June 2011, 17:09
stunning... quality :D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 June 2011, 17:51
Len, their is a £80 charger, it's so small it's under the hood where u can't see it :-)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tigerj360 on 17 June 2011, 18:39
not a bad sight to be typing too!

even under the bonnet is shinney  :cool:

good work dude!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 17 June 2011, 18:51
At least the fan bit is sorted. Just go through the diagram. For the maf, that's to do with the ecu, which will be another diagram  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: gtiballs61 on 17 June 2011, 19:02
Top job there brad,car is looking/sounding sweet with the bam.
Im soooooo jealous  :cry:
Got a vid up yet of the new exhaust notes?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 June 2011, 22:08
I'll get a video up this weekend of the exhaust :-)

Just the earth issue on the clocks to sort, rev counter is now not working and the displays don't illuminate plus the digits go off when the key is turned on, tried bens clocks in mine and his do same.

More tests Tomo hopefully cure this last niggle ;-)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 17 June 2011, 23:29
Something must be loose at the fusebox. You need to get a meter and do some testing.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 18 June 2011, 14:31
Something must be loose at the fusebox. You need to get a meter and do some testing.

im not sure where to start  :laugh:

on a side note,  had to take the car to bens work to make a bracke, and on my travels the car has had its first test, against the car i was going to buy if i was to get a new car - A green Focus RS...  at the lights he bottled it, but tried to smoke me on a dual carriage way.. BIG mistake haha, because the golf was stuck to the RS.s tailpipe - his fumes were getting blown it to my car (and their was alot of them so he must have really been giving it some)

He opened his window at the next set of lights asking what i had under my hood, i told him and his reply was "in that old thing" haha, so i asked him to have a little blast off at the lights, guess what. He bottled it  :evil:


3rd and 4th Gears are unreal!!!! 
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 18 June 2011, 14:44
I had the same thing with a M3.  :cool:

Study the Rubjonny's fusebox FAQ and compare with that diagram. You do need a meter though to make sure your power and earths are right. Shame your up north, i could have sorted it in no time. :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 18 June 2011, 14:53
would have been good if you was local mate, this is my last niggle :undecided: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: neil1780 on 18 June 2011, 16:24
Sounds proper quick mate, we need vids :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 18 June 2011, 16:34
will get some rolling vids if i can mate  :cool:

Here you can see the Coolant bottle is properly fixed in place by a custom bracket Ben made at work

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5227/imagegea.jpg)

(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1669/imageaky.jpg)

next we will fit the mk4 windscreen wash bottle so i can relocate the induction kit where the old bottle is at present
 trial fit is good

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/6955/imagebbj.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 18 June 2011, 16:39
looks immense mate!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tdi_blu on 18 June 2011, 17:19
Awsome job mate that engine looks like its always been in there makes it all worth while  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 18 June 2011, 21:02
Respect to you for taking the time to make sure it looks factory fresh and the engine has been in from day 1 :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 18 June 2011, 21:17
cheers. OEM+ is the theme i wanted with it  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jimp on 18 June 2011, 21:26
The bay looks like it's fresh out of the factory  :shocked: The relocated battery and mk4 washer bottle are properly tidy  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 18 June 2011, 22:19
That looks the bolloxs mate.  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: snifferdog on 19 June 2011, 09:35
I think I could do with a mate like Ben  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 12:05
cheers guys

regarding ben - absolute top guy, done some wicked stuff along the way with this conversion...

ben is the man for all your conversion needs, kitchn re fitting needs, wheeel refurbs, spacers.. the list goes on what this guy can do.. not to mention his gorila grip which came in handy for those stubborn bolts

only thing i can get him on is his ability to loose bolts hahaa :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:   

He even put up with me not allowing his mucky hands to touch anything id cleaned on the engine which is no easy feat when your are doing a converison :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 19 June 2011, 17:49
Need to spay up that slam pannel the same as the bay   :drool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 17:53
do you mean the fron plastic part ?  would be difficult because it its a housing for the whole rad..
 :cool:

got most the niggles sorted, only thing on the dials now thats not working is the speedo and fuel gauge altho i dont know if any fuel is in it so im gonna top that up and if it works, im guessing we may have wired up the conevtion wrong to the gearbox (this is what i hope anyhow)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 19 June 2011, 18:14
Looking stunning mate!  :cool:

Good luck with the niggles! :cool:

Funny how DH has STFU and not replied since it's been working.  :rolleyes: :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 19 June 2011, 18:44
:D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 19:05
hahaha i know mate. fooking idiot jsut gives peole sh!t for no reason, i get sick of reading it.

anyhow, fuel gauge works - just put 20 quid in it, slthough when i drive is very occasionally moves to empty and then half full.. im wondering if the sender is a bit dodgey ?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 19 June 2011, 19:08
True, true.  :grin:

Happy days! I think the sender is on my GTi, it did that on the way home, didn't think I was gonna make it then shot up to half a tank which was right! I'm gonna try a sender in it.

I know it's been mentioned but what did you use to sort your bay first time round? Mines as minging as yours was, want it looking fresh.  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 20:01
to sort the bay and engine first time round i used same method i used on this engine

i used a load of cans of Gunk spray, and WD40.. loads of rags and kitchen roll

if you want to polish bits up i used wire brush then wet and dry, then autosol (polishing takes some right looking after

if you wanna spray bits then use high temp paint and hammerite

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 19 June 2011, 21:31
What was up with the clocks then?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 21:36
What was up with the clocks then?

look in electrical section of Club GTI russ, iv just put a post up, you may be able to help me.

iv got no speedo, i need to check the wires to the gearbox, but iv included the colours in the thread over on CGTI, also i think the sender is iffy for the fuel, its working but now and again it raises or drops ?  what do you think?

everything else is working, just no MPG readings etc on the maf and no speedo, plus my miles are not going up
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 19 June 2011, 21:38
Have you earthed the sender on the tank out, if the gauge rises then it is your problem.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 21:40
Have you earthed the sender on the tank out, if the gauge rises then it is your problem.

no mate, how do i do this ?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 19 June 2011, 21:42
Have you earthed the sender on the tank out, if the gauge rises then it is your problem.

no mate, how do i do this ?

Pull the plug off the sender and earth it against metal, if the wiring is correct the gauge should rocket up.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 21:44
which bit do i earth (is it a 2 pin plug)  if so which pin or do i earth any ??
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 19 June 2011, 21:51
to sort the bay and engine first time round i used same method i used on this engine

i used a load of cans of Gunk spray, and WD40.. loads of rags and kitchen roll

if you want to polish bits up i used wire brush then wet and dry, then autosol (polishing takes some right looking after

if you wanna spray bits then use high temp paint and hammerite



Cheers mate. Might polish the alternator. Probably paint the rocker cover, not pink though, doesn't suit the shape of it.  :grin:

I'll grab some Gunk.

I could never ground out my gauge, I just saw three wires but I'm sure two were for the pump and one the sender, grounding any out didn't do anything. Although that could be on a seperate plug, I never bothered, I just stuck some fuel in and the gauge worked.  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 19 June 2011, 21:53
which bit do i earth (is it a 2 pin plug)  if so which pin or do i earth any ??

Cannot remember now as it has been a while  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 21:54
ill have to have a look
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Post by: tshirt2k on 19 June 2011, 23:03
Check the thread :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 June 2011, 15:53
Car passed its MOT today WITHOUT A CAT

Car is a 1993 so the new regulations must be in force  :evil:

Now have a 2.5" straight through full St/St cat forsale.. it cost me 200 quid plus custom charges etc from the states.. which were 40 quid

ill take 200 for it posted if anybody wants it get in touch.. its hight quality as you would expect from anything going on my car..


1 small niggle with my speedo not working due to a ignition feed and then we are all good

Next up is a remap and Paint.... age related stone chips etc..

Try get the car ready to hit Edition 38 etc  :cool:
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Post by: Horney on 22 June 2011, 15:58
A cat has never been needed for an MOT as long as the car passes the emissions test.

Good stuff on the pass.

Nick
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 June 2011, 16:02
yeah true, but it has for emmisions tho for cars 1992 onwards. But they have moved the 1992 to 1994 now so i fall into the old category, bonus :evil:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 22 June 2011, 16:04
Car passed its MOT today WITHOUT A CAT

Car is a 1993 so the new regulations must be in force  :evil:

Now have a 2.5" straight through full St/St cat forsale.. it cost me 200 quid plus custom charges etc from the states.. which were 40 quid

ill take 200 for it posted if anybody wants it get in touch.. its hight quality as you would expect from anything going on my car..


1 small niggle with my speedo not working due to a ignition feed and then we are all good

Next up is a remap and Paint.... age related stone chips etc..

Try get the car ready to hit Edition 38 etc  :cool:

Nice one..... ha, like you need a remap right now!  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 June 2011, 16:10
Yeah TBH it feels so fast as it is, i want the remap just to sort out how the power comes in, its brutal in 3rd, 4th and 5th.. mental car!!!!

will sort the stone chips out etc and get the paint looking even fresher than what it is now

had a blast with a VR6 the other day, he thought mine was a standard GTI 8v... HAHAHA, made the VR6 look like a 1.3...  complete destroyed it but when we hit the breaks noting happened which was a tad worrying..

turns out when testing the engine before we routed all the pipers etc, one of the break lines must have touched the Turbo manifold.. it was leaking  :shocked: :shocked:  fixed that and now it stops as it should :cool:

Really love this car its almost my perfect Golf now....  100% mint paint and im their :cool:
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Post by: dom on 22 June 2011, 16:17
Yeah TBH it feels so fast as it is, i want the remap just to sort out how the power comes in, its brutal in 3rd, 4th and 5th.. mental car!!!!

will sort the stone chips out etc and get the paint looking even fresher than what it is now

had a blast with a VR6 the other day, he thought mine was a standard GTI 8v... HAHAHA, made the VR6 look like a 1.3...  complete destroyed it but when we hit the breaks noting happened which was a tad worrying..

turns out when testing the engine before we routed all the pipers etc, one of the break lines must have touched the Turbo manifold.. it was leaking  :shocked: :shocked:  fixed that and now it stops as it should :cool:

Really love this car its almost my perfect Golf now....  100% mint paint and im their :cool:

Glad to hear it passed :afro:

I wouldn't be wasting my time on here though....get out and drive the thing some more :evil:

Also when we getting a video of this monster?
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 June 2011, 16:22
im gonna give it a propper clean over the weekend and get some footage matey.. hardly driven it, only had a few drives, and on those few drives iv had a Civic type R, a VR6 and a Focus RS all get a massive shock  (the lads in the Ccivic were amazed that it had a S3 lump - said the car is SICK haha)

Its hard to believe its so fast compaired to what it was, turbo sounds mental !!!!

dont want to drive it much till we sort the lost ingition live thats causing my speedo to not work, im on this again tonight
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 22 June 2011, 16:23
im gonna give it a propper clean over the weekend and get some footage matey.. hardly driven it, only had a few drives, and on those few drives iv had a Civic type R, a VR6 and a Focus RS all get a massive shock  (the lads in the Ccivic were amazed that it had a S3 lump - said the car is SICK haha)

Its hard to believe its so fast compaired to what it was, turbo sounds mental !!!!

dont want to drive it much till we sort the lost ingition live thats causing my speedo to not work, im on this again tonight

At least you won't be clocking up any miles............
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Post by: Wayne on 22 June 2011, 16:26
Good result with the mot, sounds awsome, hope you get the speedo sorted.
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Post by: robz on 22 June 2011, 16:28
cracking news on the mot!!
may have to lose mine this year then.. might just get it through this mot though as it has been sat there doing nothing it probably needs a good clear out!
i cant wait to see this mate! well done!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: VR6_Wherry on 22 June 2011, 16:34
GTFO!!






and come back with some videos!  :cool:
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Post by: neil1780 on 22 June 2011, 17:28
GTFO!!






and come back with some videos!  :cool:

+1 this sounds awesome mate.

Are you taking it to ed38 this year?
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 June 2011, 17:51
I am planning on edition 38 yes   :cool:
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 22 June 2011, 18:50
well done mate! good news all round, thou how did it pass with no speedo?  :undecided:  or didnt they notice! lucky breaks passed too!

need videos!  :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 June 2011, 22:27
they never checked speedo

had it working tonight if i remove the earth for the windows.. so im getting their   :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Len on 23 June 2011, 10:46
Wish you had done all this before I came up!
Maybe next time you can let me have a drive! :wink: :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 11:55
i know mate, maybe next time eh  :wink:

would have been good to be able to show you but i do think the time i took prepping for this payed off, we got it fitted and running in 3 days.. iv seen folk on here take almost a year, and on some occasions they still aint up and running.. some times its best to take time planning it all.. :smiley:

i hope to be at some of the meets and stuff with the car tho so we should hook up at one of these
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Post by: Len on 23 June 2011, 12:13
Well if you go to E38 I will probably pop in there Sunday midday after I leave Action.
If it aint piddling down! :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 12:52
yea me and ben and a few others are on about ed38
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Post by: Len on 23 June 2011, 12:59
I just get bored at E38, whereas Action has much more going on day and night!
But its worth going to E38 on the Sunday to see all the cars!
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Post by: stu646 on 23 June 2011, 13:00
Great job on the car mate. Lots of hard work gone in it, all paying off though.
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 17:59
Great job on the car mate. Lots of hard work gone in it, all paying off though.

cheers mate - the gearbox is doing a grand job :-)

the green 16v car lives on, my mate has it and its all working again (the headgasket fully died on me but its been repaired and now back on the road)
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Post by: tech1889 on 23 June 2011, 18:33
sorry if i missed it but is this all legal now ??
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 18:35
yep, MOT passed, car is on the road, got a earht issue, speedo dont work, iv done a temp fix and have them working at the cost of no electric to the windows, hope to box this off in next few days
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 23 June 2011, 20:09
yep, MOT passed, car is on the road, got a earht issue, speedo dont work, iv done a temp fix and have them working at the cost of no electric to the windows, hope to box this off in next few days

 :undecided: how's that work? No electric windows but now clocks work? Better to know how fast ur going to keeping cool! Lol :)

Bit of a weird one isn't it then? But guess that's life rolling in a g3 :) :)

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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 21:39
ALL SORTED  :cool:

was a fuse!!!! looked perfect but hit all the fuses with the Continuity test on my meter and the engine electronics one was faulty.. swapped it out and everything works as it should

wooo fooking Hooo   :grin: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:


the most biggest thansk ever to Tshirt2K - an absolute top geezer who has helped me out loads over the phone..

And Ben - words cant even describe how much of a leg end he is  :wink:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 23 June 2011, 21:58
Finally got there. Sometimes we always overlook the obvious things. At least you learnt a bit about auto electrics. :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 22:09
Finally got there. Sometimes we always overlook the obvious things. At least you learnt a bit about auto electrics. :afro:

you know what, learnt a bloody load mate, your a star!!!!, did check those fuses, but wasnt till i did the check with the voltmeter on each fuse i found it to be at fault.. it was what you taught me that helped me find it.. and i only started checking each fuse because i was getting desperate! haha


 :cool:
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Post by: CCGTI on 23 June 2011, 22:15
what about my help with the bolts and my horn
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 22:16
what about my help with the bolts and my horn


hahahahaha, that was classic.. are you coming to that meet next wednesday night ?
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Post by: dom on 23 June 2011, 22:34
So we're all done? Massive congrats, can't wait to see this in the flesh :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 22:37
So we're all done? Massive congrats, can't wait to see this in the flesh :cool:

cheers man, so happy now

just about all done engine wise yes (for now), gonna re route my induction kit and fit the mk4 window wash bottle, then some fresh paint.. may aswell go the whole way with it now..  :cool:

but next month im gonna get it remapped  :evil:
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Post by: dom on 23 June 2011, 22:38
So we're all done? Massive congrats, can't wait to see this in the flesh :cool:

cheers man, so happy now

just about all done engine wise yes (for now), gonna re route my induction kit and fit the mk4 window wash bottle, then some fresh paint.. may aswell go the whole way with it now..  :cool:

but next month im gonna get it remapped  :evil:

Where you getting it mapped?
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 22:47
im not sure yet, i spoke the R tech, he gave me a really good reply and seemd to know exactly how to set the engine up for the mk3 chassis...
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Post by: CCGTI on 23 June 2011, 22:55
yes mate will need a lift off someone as i aint rockin up in the swedish porn star, dont get golf back for another 2 weeks or so
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 23:09
yes mate will need a lift off someone as i aint rockin up in the swedish porn star, dont get golf back for another 2 weeks or so

ok mate we will sort it, ben will prob swing round and get you, ill take my car too...
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Post by: CCGTI on 23 June 2011, 23:10
good i want a spin in it, to make up for the broken horn lol
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 23:11
good i want a spin in it, to make up for the broken horn lol

will sort it mate  :cool:
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Post by: Wayne on 23 June 2011, 23:40
Great result with finding the problem :afro:
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Post by: Rhyso on 24 June 2011, 08:48
Superb work  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 June 2011, 10:20
cheers guys

give it a propper clean now over the weekend (if this bloody yorkshire weather holds up) and then ill get more pics up  :-)

going to relocate the window washer bottle and induction kit after the weekend when i have the silicone pipe needed to extend the induction pipeing  :cool:

really enjoyng the car
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 June 2011, 10:21
When you have that power, it make you think, Its just how they should have made the car in the 1st place. :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 June 2011, 10:26
When you have that power, it make you think, Its just how they should have made the car in the 1st place. :cool:


too right mate. just wha ti was thinking. its the sound the engine makes too, sounds awesome!!!  jetex system is spot on, not a chav sound - just perfect.

P.S tried to call MJ again today for you, no answer so im guessing he busy, also found out that temp sensor display thing on the MFA is down to a pressure sensor been fitted rather thasn a temp one  :rolleyes: hahaha so thats now sorted too  :cool:
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Post by: pablo64 on 24 June 2011, 10:29
Glad to see everythings come together just how you wanted it to Kells, all those little teething probs sorted, looks so OEM, bet your well chuffed with it, as tshirt2k said this is how it should have been done from factory, nice one with the MOT, happy driving fella
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 June 2011, 10:39
Cheers mate - its perfect and the conversion went really really well.. im happy as a pig in sh!te right now :cool:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 June 2011, 10:40
When you have that power, it make you think, Its just how they should have made the car in the 1st place. :cool:


too right mate. just wha ti was thinking. its the sound the engine makes too, sounds awesome!!!  jetex system is spot on, not a chav sound - just perfect.

Tshirt knows  :grin: Get a sound clip up . Need to know what it sounds like without the middle box. I'm on the verge of ordering the pipe.
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 June 2011, 10:45
When you have that power, it make you think, Its just how they should have made the car in the 1st place. :cool:


too right mate. just wha ti was thinking. its the sound the engine makes too, sounds awesome!!!  jetex system is spot on, not a chav sound - just perfect.

Tshirt knows  :grin: Get a sound clip up . Need to know what it sounds like without the middle box. I'm on the verge of ordering the pipe.

It still has the middle box present (one near rear axle), i called them and they said thats how it is supposed to be, apparently the Res versions have a bit at the front that mine does not have??
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 June 2011, 10:55
That the bit i mean. Middle as in middle of the car. I have one in the tunnel.
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 June 2011, 10:58
yes a "chamber" as they called it, he said sound isnt much different, mine is not loud at all, you can hear ther turbo and engine when u drive.

on idle the note is deeper than standard but miles off from my old magnex that had no middle box at all

i love it, ill get a clip or ill call you and get ben to rev it etc
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 June 2011, 14:52
Sounds like it's similar to mine then. Can mainly hear induction noise. No drone at motorway speeds. I may leave it in then. Saves me £70.
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 June 2011, 15:46
get your carbon elements for your seats with the 70 notes matey
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 June 2011, 19:43
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Post by: Rhyso on 25 June 2011, 19:45
Your intercooler is wonky  :tongue:

Looks awesome otherwise  :cool: :cool:  You relocating the battery or air filter?  Looks like its a bit tight there  :undecided:
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Post by: Wayne on 25 June 2011, 19:47
Stunning  :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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Post by: snifferdog on 25 June 2011, 19:49
That made me do a sex wee!!

Let me know when you got to R tech, Id love to see this in the flesh!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 June 2011, 19:50
Yeah got mk4 washer bottle and the induction kit is going where the mk3 washer bottle is at the mo :wink:

cheers wayne :cool:

will do snifferdog mate :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 25 June 2011, 19:51
Yeah got mk4 washer bottle and the induction kit is going where the mk3 washer bottle is at the mo :wink:

Tidy  :smiley:
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Post by: JC on 25 June 2011, 19:51
looks sweet mr kells, job well done :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 June 2011, 19:55
cheers mate :smiley:
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Post by: snifferdog on 25 June 2011, 19:55
Just one thing - wouldnt bonnet lifters look good on this?!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: JC on 25 June 2011, 19:56
not imho, car is pre lifters and there wouldnt look oem  :huh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 June 2011, 19:58
not imho, car is pre lifters and there wouldnt look oem  :huh:

 :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Steve_PD on 25 June 2011, 20:00
Cracking job :afro: one of the nicest mk3's going :cool:
Glad to see the hater has shutup :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Credit to you and Ben :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 June 2011, 20:04
thanks dude  :smiley: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 25 June 2011, 20:16
As I said before, the conversion looks awesome mate.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Junior74 on 25 June 2011, 21:05
Woo Wa Wee Waah!
Sooooooooooooooooooooo Nice!!
Loving this from start to finish....
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Dan34 on 25 June 2011, 22:08
Very nice! Very well done  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 25 June 2011, 23:26
Absolutely stunning :cool:

The only thing letting it down for me is the blue battery, could you not get a black jacket thing for it?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: kniterider on 25 June 2011, 23:47
top work bud  :wink:

glad to see ya your forecast came off as planned, even with the minor tweaks (which all conversions have , your just honest about them!) , as much as the hater has shut up i assume he'll rise his goaty bearded c u n t of a face and pick holes some where... but let him be. Job done kells, you talked the talk, then after a bit of stalling whilst making sure everything was right for you walked the walk.... RESPECT


:)


Gaz
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Post by: kniterider on 25 June 2011, 23:49
oh yeah ya download mix is pretty damn good!! any more of similar age etc pm me links

:)

Gaz
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 26 June 2011, 13:14
oh yeah ya download mix is pretty damn good!! any more of similar age etc pm me links

:)

Gaz


got loads of mixes matey, ill sort some for you no problem :-)
and cheers for the comments

Dom - Got a mint Jacket for the battery, will pop this on once the induction kit is relocated  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jimp on 26 June 2011, 13:43
Hummina hummina hummina  :drool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 27 June 2011, 22:40
Window wash bottle relocated - using MK4 bottle

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6503/imageiot.jpg)

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/610/imageuyu.jpg)

gonna need that shallow sump too

(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6089/imagetsik.jpg)

Relocation of the airfilter will happen wednesday, once i have the pipes needed to do the job   :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: JC on 27 June 2011, 22:41
 :shocked: you look to be nearly thru that sump.

I wouldnt be drving it mesen  :huh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tech1889 on 27 June 2011, 22:42
looks really nice mate proper OEM that install.. either a shallow sump or drive slower over speed bumps lol
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 27 June 2011, 22:43
it was a fooking pot hole in the road!! hit at 25 mph.. gonna have to get a shallow one sorted to be on safe side

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 27 June 2011, 22:58
Awesome gti do them mate
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 27 June 2011, 23:05
Pic actually looks worse than what it is, but im gonna get the shallow sump to stop this in future

another pic

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Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 27 June 2011, 23:07
Why don't you raise the engine a touch too for extra safety?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 27 June 2011, 23:16
cant mate no room for that or the engine will touch the underside of the bonnet.. i think the sump would be ok standard tbh, im just thinking for the extra peace of mind the shallow sump will give the car enough.. either that or get a metal plate welded on  :undecided:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 27 June 2011, 23:34
cant mate no room for that or the engine will touch the underside of the bonnet.. i think the sump would be ok standard tbh, im just thinking for the extra peace of mind the shallow sump will give the car enough.. either that or get a metal plate welded on  :undecided:

Get a sump guard, I am still not keen on the shallow sump as you end up running a lot less oil and on a engine like that to me it needs all the oil it can get.

 :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 27 June 2011, 23:37


Get a sump guard, I am still not keen on the shallow sump as you end up running a lot less oil and on a engine like that to me it needs all the oil it can get.

 :smiley:

Yeah i think same as you... i think a nice fat bit of metal would give me peace of mind... maybe source a new standard sump and have some modifications done  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 28 June 2011, 00:03
What about a dry sump? Or a shallow sump and just put a big oil cooler in for that extra oil.
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 09:04
ill have to have a think about it, might just modify a genuine sump with some protection  :smiley:
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Post by: lemski on 28 June 2011, 10:08
I wouldn't dry sump it. Big oil cooler would work nicely though
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 10:32
decisions decisions

Going to replace Timing belt and the water pump first anyhow. Hit 40k miles and i have no record of the pump been changed and these are notorious for failing, im sure yesterday i started to hear the pump making noises (or am i been paranoid  :laugh:).
Either way im getting it replaced so may aswell do timing belt at same time (Audi state 120k to change it)

Genuine kit is 95 quid plus vat for the timing belt kit and 33 quid for the water pump (exchange) but im gonna source one else where because Audi only supply items with  the crap plastic impeller now and this is where the problems lie
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Post by: Misky on 28 June 2011, 10:34
If you mod a standard sump by adding a plate/gaurd, you are increasing the depth, therefore you are also increasing the likelyhood of it hitting more.

I would use a shallow sump & a mocal oil cooler in a discrete place. to keep that fresh OEM look.  :cool:
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Post by: Rhyso on 28 June 2011, 10:35
If its like the VW water pump then its been revised with a stronger plastic and design

When I had the water pump done on the golf I asked if it was metal or plastic and got told the above  :smiley:
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Post by: tech1889 on 28 June 2011, 10:37
The timing belt replace time was revised by Audi/vw a few years ago to every 3 years or 40k..

The waterpump supplied by vw is a new revised item so they are fine no need to get a metal one..

Go to the dealers for the cambelt kit and waterpump.. And don't forget to make sure you get the tensioner as that also needs to be replaced  :smiley:
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Post by: CCGTI on 28 June 2011, 10:59
i sure i have seen a guy on ed38 selling a sump guard from his vr6 think he wants about £150 for it
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Post by: Wayne on 28 June 2011, 11:18
Genuine water pump is plastic but a much better / stronger design, I have one fitted.
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Post by: golf-sib on 28 June 2011, 11:45
Personally I wouldn't bother with sump gaurd as said about protecting the standard sump it will only make it lower and increase likely hood off contact.

Shallow sump and oil cooler is the way I would head, could stick the oil cooler ontop of fmic if room allows it otherwise drivers side vent where the smic would of went. Seen some people mod the smic into oil coolers but I am not sure if this is recommended or effective otherwise contact toyosports.

 http://www.toyosports.co.uk/oil-cooler-kit-nproducts102curpage-2-102-c.asp

or

 toyosports.co.uk/volkswagen-golf-oil-filter-relocation-kit-13-row-cooler-1262-p.asp

Check products are compatible before buying.
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 11:53
cheers guys

Regarding the camblet kit, the guy at Audi dealer told me it comes in a kit which includes everythign apart from the Damper (what the fook is this? )

ill go for the full Genuine set up

i dont have the equipment to set the timing up so it will be a garage job, they have quited 120 plus vat for labour at my local performance centre who do all my MOT's etc
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Post by: Bellend on 28 June 2011, 12:17
Plastic water pump saved my nans valves and cambelt when it siezed, stripped the pump but saved the engine.  :smiley:
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Post by: tech1889 on 28 June 2011, 12:39
The damper he refers to is a hydraulic tensioner you need to save the old one failing.. This will add a bit to your initial price lol
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 12:42
So edo i need the damper thing then ?  wonder how much this is
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Post by: tech1889 on 28 June 2011, 13:19
I personally recommend getting one saves it failing in the long run.. Think it might be about £60-70 not sure though
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 14:42
80 plus VAT for S3 engine...

picking up full cambelt kit tomo  :smiley:

water pump im not so sure on yet, seen a uprated version on ebay which is more expensive than the Audi one but is a metal version
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Post by: Wayne on 28 June 2011, 15:29

water pump im not so sure on yet, seen a uprated version on ebay which is more expensive than the Audi one but is a metal version


I believe it is safer to run the plastic version. :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 15:38
now ordered a Genuine Water pump from Audi, along with the cambelt kit.

Booked in for Monday to be all fitted  :smiley:
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Post by: tech1889 on 28 June 2011, 17:47
now ordered a Genuine Water pump from Audi, along with the cambelt kit.

Booked in for Monday to be all fitted  :smiley:

did ya get the tensioner ??
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 19:10
Yes mate, got the full kit and Water pump too - all from the audi Dealership   :smiley:

Now relocated the induction kit, really happy with this

(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2914/imageguzg.jpg)

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1290/imagejhr.jpg)

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4273/imagetst.jpg)


The K&N is in direct Cold air - could not get any better!!



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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 19:42
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/2808/imagecep.jpg)
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Post by: Wayne on 28 June 2011, 19:55
Looks much better :afro:
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Post by: Steve_PD on 28 June 2011, 20:01
should have done the cambelt when the engine was out would have been easy.

engine bay looks spot on. looks factory made :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 20:02
Cheers guys

Steve, i wanted to but we decided we would rather get it in the car working before i did anything to it, plus i want to get that done by the garage so i know its timed up correct etc..

Its going in monday AM.

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Post by: tech1889 on 28 June 2011, 20:15
looks awesome all you need now is relocate battery and the bay will look sweet as fook mate  :cool:
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Post by: golf-sib on 28 June 2011, 20:19
I'd leave the battery there for two reasons, one it looks more OEM and its somewhat insulating hot air from reaching his new found intake for the filter.

Think it will look really empty with the battery gone and I can't think what you could possibly fit to fill in that gap except a ps3 george forman grill
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Post by: tech1889 on 28 June 2011, 20:25
I'd leave the battery there for two reasons, one it looks more OEM and its somewhat insulating hot air from reaching his new found intake for the filter.

Think it will look really empty with the battery gone and I can't think what you could possibly fit to fill in that gap except a ps3 george forman grill

relocation is the way forward lol.. cleaner looking bays look sweet and are relatively cheap to start off..
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 20:34
cheers guys

did think of moving the battery but i do like the OEM look of it p;us i really like to keep all the engine related stuff in the engine bay... we will see  :smiley:
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Post by: Wayne on 28 June 2011, 20:36
cheers guys

did think of moving the battery but i do like the OEM look of it p;us i really like to keep all the engine related stuff in the engine bay... we will see  :smiley:

I think the battery is ok as is tbh.
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Post by: tshirt2k on 28 June 2011, 20:45
cheers guys

did think of moving the battery but i do like the OEM look of it p;us i really like to keep all the engine related stuff in the engine bay... we will see  :smiley:

I think the battery is ok as is tbh.

Me too  :wink:
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Post by: dom on 28 June 2011, 20:56
cheers guys

did think of moving the battery but i do like the OEM look of it p;us i really like to keep all the engine related stuff in the engine bay... we will see  :smiley:

I think the battery is ok as is tbh.

Me too  :wink:

I also think it looks great there, there would be too much empty space without it :wink:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 29 June 2011, 00:55
The new intake and washer bottle look loads better. Top marks mate.
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Post by: Adam on 29 June 2011, 03:22
Like it lots!

You could make the MK4 battery cover fit or orientate it longitudinally and use the MK4 battery base with a plate to extend the battery tray.
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Post by: F17BAD on 29 June 2011, 08:56
Like it lots!

You could make the MK4 battery cover fit or orientate it longitudinally and use the MK4 battery base with a plate to extend the battery tray.

did think of this too, i like it as it is for now but if i make a change at some point then this cold be the one  :wink: :cool:
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Post by: CCGTI on 29 June 2011, 18:29
cant wait to see it tonight mate, should get a great reaction buddy, well done to you and ben for the hard work and research :nerd:
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Post by: F17BAD on 29 June 2011, 18:39
cant wait to see it tonight mate, should get a great reaction buddy, well done to you and ben for the hard work and research :nerd:

Car is not playing out tonight unfortunatly, the waterpump is leaking and making a noise like a bag of spanners  :grin:  think the impeller has broken, its already booked in for m onday for new Cambelt, tensioners, dampners and Water pump (all genuine Audi)

Not risking using it till then, but you can take a look at it on my drive when u pick me up wi ben
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Post by: CCGTI on 29 June 2011, 19:02
sound mate, shot gun front
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Post by: Len on 30 June 2011, 08:40
Vented wing for cold air feed?
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 09:10
Vented wing for cold air feed?

Its not needed Len, the tip of the filter is out of the wing and looking at the ground - not close enough to get wet but in open cold air, its perfection for a induction kit, i dont even need to use any cold air feed ducting

If you remove your wash bottle you will notice the big open space where you can see the ground -  looking down thru the bay - this area is not in the enclosed area that the engine undercover guards (if this makes sense :laugh:)

in a nutshell, behind those lower bumper vents but its higher up to guard from rain etc
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 June 2011, 10:02
Just caught up... looks ace this... as said, almost looks like it's always been there.. top work fella's. :afro:
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Post by: cняis on 30 June 2011, 10:17
Like  :smiley:

Well done!
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Post by: Len on 30 June 2011, 11:43
Vented wing for cold air feed?

Its not needed Len, the tip of the filter is out of the wing and looking at the ground - not close enough to get wet but in open cold air, its perfection for a induction kit, i dont even need to use any cold air feed ducting

If you remove your wash bottle you will notice the big open space where you can see the ground -  looking down thru the bay - this area is not in the enclosed area that the engine undercover guards (if this makes sense :laugh:)

in a nutshell, behind those lower bumper vents but its higher up to guard from rain etc

Yes but there is nothing (from what I can see in the photo) to stop it, also drawing hot air straight from the radiator?
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 June 2011, 11:50
doubt it will pulling in that much from the rad where it is but you could always  remove one of the lights from your hella's!  :wink:  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 11:58
its not possible to draw air from the Rad in the location its at

the rad is enclosed in on the mk3's anyhow, and the air filter is sat outside behind your indicators area.

My engine is also enclosed in too because iv fitted my full engine undercover which i had before (fits the S3 engine with only a very tiny bit of modifications)

Have a gander len in the corner behind your wash bottle behind your lights when u get a mo, u will see a open hole leading outside, the indiction kit is taking all the fresh air this has to offer  :wink: :cool:

removing a lamp was one of my facve options but its really not needed


cheers for compliments guys too  :cool: :smiley:
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Post by: jamrock on 30 June 2011, 12:28
looking sweet.

in re the sump, iirc Freno?? has one on this mk2 golf s3. he is on club gti as he was being f**ked with on here by.....  :angry:

might be worth loking into, and also once u add the sump guard u wont have to worry at all
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Post by: Len on 30 June 2011, 12:56
I have been looking dont worry Brad!
I am going to have worse problems with the throttle bodies!
I do have to disagree about the fans though! They may well be enclosed but the the fans pull the air out into the engine compartment. Unless you seperate the filter completely you will be drawing hot air!
I am also looking at bonnet vents. As we all know from basic science hot air rises, so some vents one either side at the rear of the bonnet should help.

I too have the undertray and think that makes things worse as the hot air from rad can only join the heated air around the exhaust manifold.
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 13:57
the only way i could improve it is by mounting it on my roof :laugh:

not a fan of vented wings these days really.. ill see.. does not really fit in with the look i desire tho :undecided:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 June 2011, 14:00
the only way i could improve it is by mounting it on my roof :laugh:

not a fan of vented wings these days really.. ill see.. does not really fit in with the look i desire tho :undecided:

No brad, this makes more sense.  :laugh:

(http://www.proppa.com/ekmps/shops/weaver/images/safari-snorkel-nissan-navara-d40-13781-p.jpg)
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 14:03
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

A snorkle or what ever they are called  :laugh:  love it  :evil:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 June 2011, 14:08
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

A snorkle or what ever they are called  :laugh:  love it  :evil:

Yep, a snorkel and mk3, how fitting.....  :lipsrsealed:  :grin: sorry, couldn't resist..


Seriously though, could be full of win on new and imaginative scene points.  :grin:
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Post by: Len on 30 June 2011, 14:13
I would need two of those! :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 14:13
 :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 30 June 2011, 15:07
I would need two of those! :grin:

Then it'd look like an insect.
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 15:11
tbh all this heatsoak sh!t is ball bags IMO, i drove the car around in baking hot sun, wasted 2 x VR6's, a Civic Type R and sat on the tailgate of a Focus RS with the induction kit sat on my battery near the K04 taking all the heat and i had zero cold air feed  :laugh:.

The point im trying to make is i never once felt any restriction due to heat soak..

So the place it is located now with be absolutly perfect for me :cool:
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Post by: archie837 on 30 June 2011, 15:16
That's just it really isn't it. If you're building a top spec race car and everything is going to help win then you will do everything you can, but for everyday road use it isn't going to make much difference.
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 June 2011, 15:20
tbh all this heatsoak sh!t is ball bags IMO, i drove the car around in baking hot sun, wasted 2 x VR6's, a Civic Type R and sat on the tailgate of a Focus RS with the induction kit sat on my battery near the K04 taking all the heat and i had zero cold air feed  :laugh:.

The point im trying to make is i never once felt any restriction due to heat soak..

So the place it is located now with be absolutly perfect for me :cool:

Well come on now, it wasn't that long ago it was an 8v, how would you notice.  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 15:23
That's just it really isn't it. If you're building a top spec race car and everything is going to help win then you will do everything you can, but for everyday road use it isn't going to make much difference.

yep totaly mate.. 100% agree with you

too many people get hung up on heat soak and induction kits and read into too much crap on forums... Next thing you know everybody is a expert  :laugh:


Lol at Shaun :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Len on 30 June 2011, 15:33
I used to think same as you Brad and to a certain extent you are correct, in that during normal driving it dont make much difference, similar to having a passenger and a bit of luggage say.
Changed my views when I took car to Santa Pod. First run was done in near freezing conditions and subsequent runs got slower with my reaction times improving! (Air temp rose conciderably)
Plus doing many RR days I see the difference a cold day gives.

On 150 bhp it can make 1 to 2 bhp difference so the higher you go the greater the difference will be.
I am going to try and get a cold air only feed on mine.
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Post by: sharki786 on 30 June 2011, 15:33
kells i gota give it to you. but where are the vids my man??? unless i missed the link :undecided:
anyhow when i pop down dews i will race you :evil:(yeah right!) anyway doing realy good on the build loving everything on it.
will it be remapped? :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 15:47
Thier was a video of its first ever time running , its on youtube, jsut search F17BAD and it will come up   :wink:

will get some videos of the complete car done when i get the chance,  :cool:


Len, my car isnt a track car and a rolling road should have a huge fan blowing on the car.. its not like real world driving.

If its a warm day, a cold air feed wont help you unless your on the motorway or doing fast speeds ..

All you are doing is worrying about things you cant change, the way i see it is, iv got the filter in direct air so thats good enough for me. Its a improvement of the standard location no end anyhow  :cool:

Regarding remap, end of next month i think :-)
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Post by: jamrock on 30 June 2011, 15:56
when its on the rollers kells thats when you know what little tweeks to make and such. the air filter issue is a minor one i reckon. remap will make it so you get ahead of the focus RS!!  :laugh:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 16:06
remap will make it so you get ahead of the focus RS!!  :laugh:

hehe that would be good seen as the Focus is the car i would have bought if i got a new car, well either that or a new S3
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Post by: Bellend on 30 June 2011, 19:18
Kells, you're failing. You're building the car how you want it, not how everyone else would have it. Cheek of it!  :rolleyes:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 30 June 2011, 19:49
Seriously would you believe it, i don't know how he sleeps at night what with all this heat soak concern on his mind...   :rolleyes:
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Post by: trog_nfs on 30 June 2011, 20:01
Just to add more fuel to the heat soak fire:

On a turbo car, heat soak is less important than restriction to flow.

The air is heated when it goes through the turbo anyway, and the intercooler reduces the inlet temperatures from there.

Having a massive filter means no restriction to air flow. If the filter was tiny but completely isolated from hot air, you'd lose tonnes of power compared to a big filter with some hot air.
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 June 2011, 20:51
Just to add more fuel to the heat soak fire:

On a turbo car, heat soak is less important than restriction to flow.

The air is heated when it goes through the turbo anyway, and the intercooler reduces the inlet temperatures from there.

Having a massive filter means no restriction to air flow. If the filter was tiny but completely isolated from hot air, you'd lose tonnes of power compared to a big filter with some hot air.

Very good point.... hence the need for an intercooler.
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Post by: golf-sib on 30 June 2011, 21:05
Just to add more fuel to the heat soak fire:

On a turbo car, heat soak is less important than restriction to flow.

The air is heated when it goes through the turbo anyway, and the intercooler reduces the inlet temperatures from there.

Having a massive filter means no restriction to air flow. If the filter was tiny but completely isolated from hot air, you'd lose tonnes of power compared to a big filter with some hot air.

Very good point.... hence the need for an intercooler.
s

And intercoolers are really called after coolers as they cool the air after the turbo. I could dig out the math equations about intake temp, under bonnet temp and the new ambient temperature after the IC but I CBA.

Also wheres the guy moaning about the 1-2bhp, remember cold days are a bit like a dyno lottery, to many factors from humidity, time of year, temp, altitude, how many mag pies present etc... You can always diet and become a deprived hungry human, that will gain you some power to weight ratio.

Also he could just put some foam between the battery to stop and conducting heat. But I hardly imagine its an issue with a FMIC present in front of the aircon/rad fans, which is always a benefit and the corner of the car being relatively high pressure means very little heat will conduct.
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 21:25
good points made

agree and im more than happy with my set up

Very Very good point RE heat and intercoolers and size of the airfilter

the induction kit is HUGE!!! i also have a samco Silicone TIP so restriction is minimal

to answer bellend, im not failing, im winning, when was the last time i did things to my car just to please anyone but myself

in other words - If i dont like it, i wont do it.

however i always like to listen to peoples ideas because i find it interesting, so i try encourage this :smiley:

@ thai-wronghorse - bloody stupid aint it hahaha, what more can you do apoart from pop the filter on the roof like i said before...   people worry too much about stuff that is not such a issue.. thats the interweb for you i guess  :grin:


right next up is whole new cambelt set up and waterpump

 (http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4807/imagencvr.jpg)


and then its time for some fresh paint and remap   :cool:
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Post by: Bellend on 30 June 2011, 23:11
ion kit is HUGE!!! i also have a samco Silicone TIP so restriction is minimal

to answer bellend, im not failing, im winning, when was the last time i did things to my car just to please anyone but myself

in other words - If i dont like it, i wont do it.

I think you missed the sarcasm mate.  :grin:

I'm sttill jealous. b!tch.  :cry: :tongue: :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 23:14
ion kit is HUGE!!! i also have a samco Silicone TIP so restriction is minimal

to answer bellend, im not failing, im winning, when was the last time i did things to my car just to please anyone but myself

in other words - If i dont like it, i wont do it.

I think you missed the sarcasm mate.  :grin:

I'm sttill jealous. b!tch.  :cry: :tongue: :grin:

 :grin: :grin: :grin:

 :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 July 2011, 11:52
Its looking like the car will be off the road again in the next couple of weeks...

My mate with the bodyshop just called me and wants to re paint the whole car, and he wants to do it soon as possible so my car is ready for some shows.. who am i to argue  :cool:
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Post by: brett on 01 July 2011, 13:33
nice lookin good mate ,still looking to keep it original colour or you changed your mind
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 July 2011, 15:01
id never change the colour.. everyone knows the flat back is the best colour for a GTI  :cool: :wink:

Everything is staying as it is, the theme of the car is OEM+  and thats how its staying  :cool:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 01 July 2011, 15:11
right next up is whole new cambelt set up and waterpump

 (http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4807/imagencvr.jpg)


and then its time for some fresh paint and remap   :cool:

I think it's been said already but surprised you didn't do this before you fitted the motor.
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 July 2011, 15:15
Shaun, wanted to but

A) wanted to make sure the engine worked right before i started ripping bits off like the timing kit  (incase i had to return the engine for whatever reason etc)

B) wanted the timing belt fitted by a pro so i know its timed up correctly and also so i have the relevant paperwork to back this up  :cool:

Stands me at alot of cash this now so i need to treat it like a new born  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 July 2011, 21:40
Sat waiting for new cambelt and water pump

im missing the Turbo already, roll on monday  :laugh: :evil:

(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4429/imagekjb.jpg)
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Post by: Toby on 01 July 2011, 23:39
this looks the nuts! my mates got a 5 door mk3 s3 conversion ko4 fmic etc.. got it goes! but looks no where near as a good as this! Very OEM! my fave mk3! haterrrrrz!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: cняis on 02 July 2011, 00:26
Dont keep banging on about haters, there arent any anymore  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Dmonday on 02 July 2011, 07:30
Don't think anyone can hate on this car, good work dude :evil:
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Post by: F17BAD on 02 July 2011, 09:50
Cheers guys  :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: archie837 on 02 July 2011, 12:42
I hate this car.


For not being in my ownership.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 02 July 2011, 13:05
Why are you doing the cambelt now? Why didnt you put it on before it went in?
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Post by: Seanl on 02 July 2011, 15:30
Why are you doing the cambelt now? Why didnt you put it on before it went in?

Read the rest of the thread!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 July 2011, 16:25
Shaun, wanted to but

A) wanted to make sure the engine worked right before i started ripping bits off like the timing kit  (incase i had to return the engine for whatever reason etc)

B) wanted the timing belt fitted by a pro so i know its timed up correctly and also so i have the relevant paperwork to back this up  :cool:

Stands me at alot of cash this now so i need to treat it like a new born  :grin:

Makes sense. 
Why are you doing the cambelt now? Why didnt you put it on before it went in?

as above.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 02 July 2011, 18:18
Why are you doing the cambelt now? Why didnt you put it on before it went in?

Read the rest of the thread!  :rolleyes:

Im not reading 150+ pages to find out why it needs a new cambelt
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 July 2011, 18:58
As quoted by Shaun matey  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: vdubman on 02 July 2011, 19:53
dude,just looked through some pages and i must admit this is how all mk3's should have been from the factory,fook the wolfsburg edition,this is super  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 July 2011, 18:26
New cambelt kit and water pump now fitted

old water pump was the engines original (40k miles) and its fooked as i expected

zero Impeller left and noisy as hell bearings. Garage also told me if the car had turned one more wheel with the engine running it would have probably cost me a fortune to put right because the cambelt was as loose as a mofo and could be revoved by hand  :shocked:

anyhow, here is the old waterpump

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6540/imageapy.jpg)

Here is pic of new one to compare

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4807/imagencvr.jpg)

Car now all back togeather and ready to rock and roll  :cool:

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3681/imagegqd.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Toby on 04 July 2011, 18:34
remap time  :evil: :rolleyes: :evil: :rolleyes: :evil: :cool: :wink: :lipsrsealed: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: cняis on 04 July 2011, 18:37
Are you going to source the plastic cover that S3's have over the washer & coolant bottles?  :smiley: You could possibly cut to fit
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 July 2011, 18:39
yeap Remap :evil:, think its off to paint shop this month, then its deffo off for remap (and a couple more mods to the engine to help it perform its best)

chris, i was only just talking about this the other day.. i dunno, id like to get them and see how it looks. thing is i really like how it looks at the mo.
No harm in trying the covers tho  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: cняis on 04 July 2011, 18:41
I drove an S3 today and theyre quick even in standard form.  :wink:

I still prefer a lazier (6 cyl +) engine though, for the noise and bottom end grunt.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 July 2011, 18:44
Yeah a few of my mates have S3's they are pretty good. total diff ball game in the mk3 tho. it leaves them for dust  :evil:

i miss the 8v for that lazy feeling, it wasnt too bad that old lump for the daily use. saying that this S3 lump pulls in every gear from what ever speed you are going in so you can be lazy with it too. Just have that brutal feeling when the boost comes in haha  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jimp on 04 July 2011, 19:16
I love the warning sticker on the intake pipe  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 July 2011, 19:25
I love the warning sticker on the intake pipe  :grin:

me too hahaha, its actually painted on is that..  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 04 July 2011, 20:32
 :shocked: Lucky escape with the water pump etc.
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Post by: F17BAD on 04 July 2011, 21:05
very very lucky mate
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VW BUSH on 04 July 2011, 21:13
let down by a bit of dirt on the wing, there i found something wrong with it  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 July 2011, 22:53
let down by a bit of dirt on the wing, there i found something wrong with it  :cool:

cheers matey  :grin: :wink: :smiley: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 04 July 2011, 23:01
Looking good fella. How did the car not overheat?  :shocked:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 July 2011, 23:19
Looking good fella. How did the car not overheat?  :shocked:

 i caught it in time mate, heard the bearings in the pump and i already know they are notorious for failing so i parked her up, then the day after i noticed the coolant was all gone from the expansion bottle, and some was on the floor which confirmed it

had it towed to the garage as i was not gonna risk starting it and thast was that

If i had driven it some more i dont like to think what could have hapened

You just cant risk this sort of stuff, makes you wonder how many Vag cars from 1999 ish onwards are driving round with hardly any waterpump left :lipsrsealed: Guy at Audi told me all vag cars have this pump but they have been made stronger so this one should last longer  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 10 July 2011, 20:44
UPDATE

1 week tomorrow (Week commencing 18th July) F17BAD will be dismantled and given a fresh coast of its original colour L041 Black..

in Prep for visit to some shows and stuff and to basically finish of the car (for now)

Then it will be booked in for a custom remap and also be treatred to a Forge Actuator  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 10 July 2011, 21:27
UPDATE

1 week tomorrow (Week commencing 18th July) F17BAD will be dismantled and given a fresh coast of its original colour L041 Black..

in Prep for visit to some shows and stuff and to basically finish of the car (for now)

Then it will be booked in for a custom remap and also be treatred to a Forge Actuator  :smiley:

 :cool: looking forward to seeing updates etc.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 11 July 2011, 14:21
nice one mate!!
wish mine was as well as this :(
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 11 July 2011, 15:50
Im pretty lucky as one of my best mates owns a really top bobyshop with some of the best equipment.. House of Kolor dealer etc....
He did my arches for me so i could get the car as low as it is on the porker rims. He knows im a fussy bas tard so i know he will treat the car with the respect it deserves.

He quoted the job at around the 3k mark. But iv got a much better deal than this.. its an absolute steal and id be a shady pioneer to not take him up on it.

He knows my plans for the car and he wants his name attached to it because thats obviously good for business  :wink: :cool:

I originally only wanted the bonnet and bumper doing due to age related stone chips but he insists on a full job :laugh: 
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 12 July 2011, 08:59
Haha! Shady pioneer :D
Yeah sounds good! Will be stunning when it's back then!
Can I ask a cheeky question and feel free to tell me to Piss off! Would you pm me a figure of how much your conversion cost? Only ask cos I know you went perfect on everything!! ;)
Wish I had got your engine mate, would have saved so much hassle haha
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 12 July 2011, 11:42
Im pretty lucky as one of my best mates owns a really top bobyshop with some of the best equipment.. House of Kolor dealer etc....
He did my arches for me so i could get the car as low as it is on the porker rims. He knows im a fussy bas tard so i know he will treat the car with the respect it deserves.

He quoted the job at around the 3k mark. But iv got a much better deal than this.. its an absolute steal and id be a shady pioneer to not take him up on it.

He knows my plans for the car and he wants his name attached to it because thats obviously good for business  :wink: :cool:

I originally only wanted the bonnet and bumper doing due to age related stone chips but he insists on a full job :laugh: 

Nice....... got any spare paint for mine.  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 July 2011, 13:03
Rob, the Conversion was not cheap at all.

We could do at about half the price of what mine cost if you was to go with a regulart 20vt engine and minus a few other bits. I just went to town on mine
Mine was expensive because it is the S3 lump which always fetches silly money plus it is super low miles at 40k , It is a superb example of this engine, i even saw it coming out of the donor car, i got the clocks looms, everything on the engine was complete even had the downpipes. plus paperwork with the engine numbers etc on so everything ties up plus the donor car had minimal damage to it so the engine compartment was untouched (always something that is important)

Cost wise mine was quite alot, you are looking at circa 5k (this is what i paid for the parts used and engine itself). I then spent many many man hours cleaning things up and tidy of bay, wiring engine side and behind the dash. manufacture of brackets and others parts at bens work, basically loads and loads of work went into this build that has not been documented on here.  

This was no straight swap, but we did it in record time. to a higher standard than IMO what Would have got if i had paid a specialist to do it.

We even matched up any wires that needed extending on the looms etc with Genuine Wire of the same colours etc

Me and ben could do you a conversion if u wanted.. depends what u want but i think you could have 20vt power for around 2.5k mark possibly 3k max


P.S the guy who bought my old lump was having issues with the loom (his was not a 2E to start with)  you could always ask him if he wants to sell it ?
 



Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 12 July 2011, 13:09
Haha!
Thanks for your honesty!
At the minute I'm just getting ideas etc.. First I need to sort the chassis out then make a final decision on the engine!
Would be cool to do a conversion with you guys, thoroughly enjoyed this build!
Appreciate the man hours!
I am still attracted to a charged vr however!
If I am ever close I may contact you as I would love to see this now! And meet you of course :D
We still need a driving vid ;)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 July 2011, 13:13
We are putting a VR in bens car, and possibly charging that, or the 24v V6 4mo lump he is wanting to fit next year

be good to meet you too,  :smiley:

also, much more to come from F17BAD..  as i said earlier, next up is paint and custom remaps.

Next year it will be bigger turbo and who knows whatever else  :lipsrsealed: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 13 July 2011, 23:07
We are putting a VR in bens car, and possibly charging that, or the 24v V6 4mo lump he is wanting to fit next year

be good to meet you too,  :smiley:

also, much more to come from F17BAD..  as i said earlier, next up is paint and custom remaps.

Next year it will be bigger turbo and who knows whatever else  :lipsrsealed: :cool:

I cannot wait to see this car in the flesh, i've got a flat sorted in Donny and get the keys in a month so sometime after I move you'll have to take me for a spin in it :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: travisreeve on 13 July 2011, 23:34
Love for you love for your car  :kiss:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 July 2011, 09:27
Love for you love for your car  :kiss:

haha cheers mate, got to be done - its a great car   :tongue: :evil: :kiss:

Dom - yeah mate for sure, sounds good to me   :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: jonnypolish on 14 July 2011, 13:59
Looks like the conversion is completed now!!!
I'm in leeds from the 15th of august i believe, lets see if your new found turbo power can leave my rwd wagon of poop :D
It'll be good to see you again, might have to get your guys to roll the arches properly on my drifter since the owner before me has done a shabby job :(
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jimp on 14 July 2011, 15:55
Do you still have your mk3 jonnypolish? Apologies for thread hijack  :embarassed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: jonnypolish on 14 July 2011, 16:05
unfortunately not! Sold it onto to a kid :( and he managed to blow it up on his way home... I wasn't happy even though it wasn't mine anymore :(
Going sideways is tooooo much fun, although i am on the hunt for a passat R36  :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jimp on 14 July 2011, 16:08
Shame that the car is no more, it was mint  :cry: Pics of your drifter?  :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 July 2011, 18:31
be good to see you jonny and smoke your jap machine whilst im at it  :evil: :evil: :kiss:

let me know when you come up, will hook up :cool:
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Post by: robz on 14 July 2011, 18:46
:D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 14 July 2011, 19:04
unfortunately not! Sold it onto to a kid :( and he managed to blow it up on his way home... I wasn't happy even though it wasn't mine anymore :(
Going sideways is tooooo much fun, although i am on the hunt for a passat R36  :evil:

Your telling me! I loved it but it will draw too much attention from the cops and cost you a set of tyres in 3 weeks  :evil:

Give me a Soarer 1jz any day please!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2011, 12:31
Had to bite the bullet and order a new MAF sensor today (pick it up in the morning)  brand new one from Audi Dealer because i didnt want to risk a Eurocarparts/GSF refurb item.  (heard all sorts of stuff over on the S3 and LCR forums)

Basically iv noticed Im not gettign full boost and its getting worse, done a leak test and found 3 split hoses, fixed those - slight improvement but still not getting correct boost, should bost to 14.7psi standard map and im only gettign to 10 now in 3rd and 4th gear. Can hit 15 psi in second tho

Did a test on vagcom and measured the air mass (was well below what it should be) worked out my BHP from this and it is WAYYYYYYY  below what it should be - 30BHP ish down :shocked:, only running at a measily 187bhp 

Cant wait to get new MAF on and have the power it should have - still feels like a rocket even with the loss of power !! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :smug: :nerd:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 July 2011, 12:54
Shame but I suppose this is what you get for conversion, bit of trial and error.   Well of course it will feel like a rocket, big step up from what it was running before.  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2011, 12:56
Shame but I suppose this is what you get for conversion, bit of trial and error.   Well of course it will feel like a rocket, big step up from what it was running before.  :cool:

Yeah apparently these MAFs are notorious for failing.. not a cheap fix either but needs must  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 July 2011, 12:57
Shame but I suppose this is what you get for conversion, bit of trial and error.   Well of course it will feel like a rocket, big step up from what it was running before.  :cool:

Yeah apparently these MAFs are notorious for failing.. not a cheap fix either but needs must  :smiley:

Can yours not be cleaned/fixed in some way?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 15 July 2011, 13:03
Shame but I suppose this is what you get for conversion, bit of trial and error.   Well of course it will feel like a rocket, big step up from what it was running before.  :cool:

Yeah apparently these MAFs are notorious for failing.. not a cheap fix either but needs must  :smiley:

Can yours not be cleaned/fixed in some way?

Delaying the inevitable; sometimes cleaning it can kill it instantly
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 July 2011, 13:05
Shame but I suppose this is what you get for conversion, bit of trial and error.   Well of course it will feel like a rocket, big step up from what it was running before.  :cool:

Yeah apparently these MAFs are notorious for failing.. not a cheap fix either but needs must  :smiley:

Can yours not be cleaned/fixed in some way?

Delaying the inevitable; sometimes cleaning it can kill it instantly

I'm aware that they are super sensitive just wasn't sure if there were any solutions that were worth trying?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 15 July 2011, 13:05
Shame but I suppose this is what you get for conversion, bit of trial and error.   Well of course it will feel like a rocket, big step up from what it was running before.  :cool:

Yeah apparently these MAFs are notorious for failing.. not a cheap fix either but needs must  :smiley:

Can yours not be cleaned/fixed in some way?

Delaying the inevitable; sometimes cleaning it can kill it instantly

I'm aware that they are super sensitive just wasn't sure if there were any solutions that were worth trying?

Bin it!  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2011, 13:06
As what Rhy's said.. been told to get a new one even if mine was ok and i dont know if or when it was last changed

will have the part tomo so its all good

Side note to anybody with Turbo power... make yourself a boost leak tester and fit a boost gauge :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 July 2011, 13:17
As what Rhy's said.. been told to get a new one even if mine was ok and i dont know if or when it was last changed

will have the part tomo so its all good

Side note to anybody with Turbo power... make yourself a boost leak tester and fit a boost gauge :wink:

But then that could turn some people into turbo hypochondriacs.  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2011, 13:20
i think im one of them now hahaha.. does give vital info tho the gauge and leaks are always gonna happen at some point  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 July 2011, 13:27
i think im one of them now hahaha.. does give vital info tho the gauge and leaks are always gonna happen at some point  :smiley:

cant wait to fill my VDO holes up when I get on with my interior.  the only gauge it has at the moment is my ear!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2011, 13:58
My Boost gauge is VDO  :smiley:

here is leak test (video only of pressure gauge of compressor)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdSOl1ofKzY
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 July 2011, 14:04
My Boost gauge is VDO  :smiley:

here is leak test (video only of pressure gauge of compressor)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdSOl1ofKzY

Cant watch at work.  :angry:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2011, 14:08
not much to see haha, its the guages on the compressor not in the car - shows it holding pressure this is at 25 - 30 psi too, a mapped S3 will boost at about 20 psi so for it to hold any higher is good - means no leaks and no loss of power
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: jonnypolish on 15 July 2011, 17:38
Boost leaks are the bain of us Tubby boys existence! Tin of mushrooms, a bottle of chilli sauce and a foot pump is my boost leak pressure test kit :D And it works!!

Seriously though, my maf on the S-body was shocking... wouldnt let me rev past 4k... cleaned it with some carb cleaner (Carefully!) and im free revving now!

Just an option if it happens again dude!

Running 187bhp and fwd you will get eaten alive! but seriously you will tear me apart in 1st gear :(

cant wait to come up man! :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2011, 17:47
jonny the golf will make you look a fool.. you will see - we will have a mess about, its stronger further into the gears it goes and thats wiht a broken MAF (which will be fixed tomo  :evil: :evil: :evil:

you should be good in 1st gear with 4WD so somehting is not right their mate
 
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: golf-sib on 15 July 2011, 19:30
I've always cleaned my maf and temp sender that sits in the manifold and its been fine and still going at 78k  :undecided:

However when I cleaned the TB it died, the carb build up kept it going as the potentiometer was ruined and could not adjust even with a manual adjustment on it by sliding it across to the stock position. So goes both ways I suppose.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 16 July 2011, 08:40
When you clean the TB, It can cause problems but you are supposed to do a TB alignment with vagcom after cleaning.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 July 2011, 15:34
The New MAF from audi is fitted and wow what a transformation it has made :shocked: :shocked: back up to full power (although very very hard to test in the wet - spin city :laugh:)

whist testing, couple of lads in a 1997 EK9 Civic Type R thought mine was  just a 8v GTI and tried to leave me at the lights..He chose the wrong Golf to mess with because it was BYe Bye civic hahahaha..  to say he got a shock was a under statement  :laugh: :laugh:

Golf feels absolutly Rapid!!! :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 16 July 2011, 18:40
Man I love your respect stick your giving to the north right now haha :D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 July 2011, 19:31
Man I love your respect stick your giving to the north right now haha :D

 :grin: :cool: :cool:

Doing it for the MK3 boys  :laugh: 

Love this car.. seems to be getting to feel faster !!!!  not sure if the ECU has now reset itself or somehting to accomodate the correct readings from the MAF.. either way, feels rapid  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 16 July 2011, 20:23
Haha, love it!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 July 2011, 21:53
Car goes off to bodyshop tomo for Full repaint.. should see it back in a week or so..

will get pics of work carried out. but its basically just a full repaint keeping it all OEM.

will be ready for VW Festival, Harewood house - Leeds
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Mikester on 17 July 2011, 23:05
Full repaint in a week, drop off to pick up?

Unless he is working for 24hours on those 7 days i would like someone to take a bit more time over it!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 July 2011, 23:11
mate iv had a lot of cars painted - i know the deal  :wink: he is one of my best mates, and he knows full well how fussy i am  :laugh: :laugh:

and i did say A WEEK OR SO car is part stripped. rest will be done tomo. every panel is coming off apart from rear 1/4 and Roof obviously because these are part of the shell

It has no rust issues or any dints, so nothing major.

He also has a great bodyshop - Ovens etc so paint will be correctly cured :smiley:.. not no back street place anyhow so dont you worry. you should know by now i dont do crap  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Mikester on 17 July 2011, 23:47
I totally know you will only want the best.

I just think perfection cant be rushed, lol.

You know my cars always in and out of places to seek perfection! I am a self diagnosed paintwork OCD.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 July 2011, 23:52
Hehe nothing wrong with that matey

I'm more than sure he will deliver the results I am looking for, if it takes him a bit longer I can live with it :-)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Mikester on 17 July 2011, 23:54
Hehe nothing wrong with that matey

I'm more than sure he will deliver the results I am looking for, if it takes him a bit longer I can live with it :-)

Being a felow Black car owner with a fresh painted front end.

When you get the first stone chip, which you will, its inevitable, with it being black and standing out, will you cry like i did?
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 July 2011, 00:12
I will be pissed off. I use the car everyday, I built it to enjoy. I am thinking of that film u can have fitted? On the bumper maybe ? If not I can just get my mate to paint it again haha
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 18 July 2011, 09:36
I will be pissed off. I use the car everyday, I built it to enjoy. I am thinking of that film u can have fitted? On the bumper maybe ? If not I can just get my mate to paint it again haha

I hate black cars at times, they look great with fresh paint and when they've just been cleaned but imperfections show up fast!  Both my cars are black, I've had my daily since it was brand spankers, it's two years old now and looks pretty cr@p up close, I painted the front of the golf not that long ago and the front valance already has chips and i've only done about 1500 miles in it!

get the film!
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Post by: Jimp on 18 July 2011, 09:49
I was asking about protective film recently. People said to go for film that lets in UV so that the car fades at the same rate all around. The anti-UV film ends up with the front of the car one colour and the back a different colour  :grin: It's difficult to fit too so make sure whoever fits the film is skilled :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 July 2011, 11:07
Yea I'll look into it, already sent a few companies a email. Nobody seems to list prices on line
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 July 2011, 19:13
Car now in my mates bodyshop, I wouldnt leave untill i had made sure my clean engine was well covered from dust, stripped the front end of complete, no wings no nothing, spent 2 hours coving every gap where dust could get into the bay (did my mates head in :laugh:) then wrapped the front of the car to double make sure haha, will be difficult rolling it into the ovens but hey ho

(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/2055/ddddyr.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/ddddyr.jpg/)

(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8784/imageadi.jpg)

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Post by: Wayne on 18 July 2011, 20:36
Looking forward to more updates.
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Post by: dom on 18 July 2011, 22:03
Looking forward to more updates.

Agreed! Your paint was always pretty damn good anyway but once it's done it'll literally be perfect! All you need now is a magazine feature :cool:

Interior - Check
Engine - Check
Exterior - Check

 :cool: :cool: :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 July 2011, 22:25
yeah im interested in a magazine feature after all the hard work thats gone into it. between 3 of use, Myself, ben and my other close Mate jonny (paint) we have basically rebuilt this car fully!!

built not bought  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 18 July 2011, 23:42
Car now in my mates bodyshop, I wouldnt leave untill i had made sure my clean engine was well covered from dust, stripped the front end of complete, no wings no nothing, spent 2 hours coving every gap where dust could get into the bay (did my mates head in :laugh:) then wrapped the front of the car to double make sure haha, will be difficult rolling it into the ovens but hey ho

(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/2055/ddddyr.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/ddddyr.jpg/)

(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8784/imageadi.jpg)



Aww, why'd you go and put a paper bag over it's head!................... trying to resist... bad mk3 jokes trying to come out!....  :lipsrsealed:


Seriously though, be great to see the finished results although to us, it probably wont look any different in pictures!  Always looked mint anyway.   :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 July 2011, 09:03
On the hunt for total perfection tho :laugh:. I had age related stone chips to the front (its 19 years old this year). but my mate insisted he did the whole car. And at a price i couldnt refuse  :smiley:
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Post by: Bellend on 19 July 2011, 10:09
On the hunt for total perfection tho :laugh:. I had age related stone chips to the front (its 19 years old this year). but my mate insisted he did the whole car. And at a price i couldnt refuse  :smiley:

£4.99?
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 July 2011, 12:41
yeah 4.99 a month  :grin:

As said earleir the job is quoted at cica 3k mark.. but he is one of my better friends so obviously he has more than looked after me.. looking forward to getting it back

Drove one of his cars home last night (that he has got in to sell on) A Mazda RX8 230BHP.. and it felt SLOW!!! compaired to the golf. I rememebr driving one of these a few years ago and thought it was fast lol
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Post by: jonnypolish on 19 July 2011, 18:01
Mannnn i need a paint job!
RX8's do feel like poo powerwise to be fair!

I swearrrr your paint was near perfect anyway :D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 July 2011, 21:47
was talking about you today matey hehe, jonnyu was asking about you

He wanted to put his stamp on the car i think - we just want it minty mint. OEM + styleee

Yeah the Rx8 felt weak mate..
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Post by: F17BAD on 20 July 2011, 22:26
A few more snaps

Shell prep will finish tomo and will be painted Friday latest, their is no damage or rust so its all straight forward work  :cool:

rest of panels will be painted next week, onlky bit of welding the car will be seeing is the ariel hole on the passenger wing  :smiley:

(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2023/imagepya.jpg)

(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6240/imageehqb.jpg)

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6661/imagefgn.jpg)
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 21 July 2011, 10:39
wow, after all that polishing it's had and they've gone and scratched off all the gloss!  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 21 July 2011, 17:58
wow, after all that polishing it's had and they've gone and scratched off all the gloss!  :grin:

hehe yeah its not nice seeing it in bits again

The shell is painted, ill have pics at somepoint, busy on bens car at the mo. just broke off for tea  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 July 2011, 22:10
A few more pics from today, shell has had a few coats of L041


(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3125/imagelqu.jpg)

(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9349/imageixr.jpg)

(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2731/imageaq.jpg)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3488/imageuzuh.jpg)

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/210/imagezkvo.jpg)

 :cool:
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Post by: Toby on 22 July 2011, 22:13
looks smashin mate! looking forward to seeing this at some show's!  :evil: :evil:
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Post by: Rhyso on 22 July 2011, 22:16
Yum  :cool:
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Post by: richw911 on 22 July 2011, 22:34
Lush  :drool: :drool: :drool:  :cool: :cool: :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 July 2011, 22:36
cheers guys  :smiley:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 22 July 2011, 22:39
Obviously it's hard to tell exactly by the photos but that really does look like a pukka job mate.
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Post by: The Doc on 22 July 2011, 22:41
Your not messing around are you?

Very impressed and it takes a lot  :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 July 2011, 22:42
Cheers  :cool:

just want the vision in my head to be a reality :smiley:
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Post by: Wayne on 22 July 2011, 23:03
Awesome  :cool:
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Post by: Khare on 22 July 2011, 23:09
Wowza! Nice one Brad :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 July 2011, 23:15
cheers  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 22 July 2011, 23:27
Nothing better than a good quality paint job :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: benvictors on 23 July 2011, 00:31
Nothing better than a good quality paint job :cool: :cool:
What about a good quality blowjob :shocked: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 23 July 2011, 00:32
Not much better than a good quality paint job :cool: :cool:
What about a good quality blowjob :shocked: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Good point, i'll amend! :wink: :grin:
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Post by: dan_apps on 23 July 2011, 15:53
:afro:
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Post by: Bellend on 23 July 2011, 15:58
 :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 July 2011, 18:27
Bit more work has been done today in the bodyshop
started taking Bonnet back to bare metal as im having special primer on the whole front end which is Black. its more expensive but is great for hiding any small chips and is also stronger than regular primer

(http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9638/imagesmg.jpg)

and the bumper has been stripped and prep work started

(http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/7135/imageokf.jpg)

Car will be back with me for Friday next week (29th july)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Andy-H on 23 July 2011, 18:41
Just a question Mate but did you consider deleting the windscreen washer holes and fitting the Mk4 set up?

I'm planning this with mine when it gets repainted just for a cleaner look  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 23 July 2011, 18:48
Just a question Mate but did you consider deleting the windscreen washer holes and fitting the Mk4 set up?

I'm planning this with mine when it gets repainted just for a cleaner look  :cool:

Yeah was considered but decided against it. You can quite easily distort the bonnet when welding on it and i want ZERO filler near my bonnet or anyplace else.. been their before and got the t shirt.. filler sinks.. maybe a month or a year but it sinks and moves, and more so on a bonnet

Trying to keep the car absolutly standard GTI spec bodywork, only thing to be welded up is the hole on the wing where the ariel used to be

Other non standard things planned is full stone chipping of the under sills etc which are behind the plastics sill trims and also bumpers
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 23 July 2011, 20:18
Just a question Mate but did you consider deleting the windscreen washer holes and fitting the Mk4 set up?

I'm planning this with mine when it gets repainted just for a cleaner look  :cool:

Yeah was considered but decided against it. You can quite easily distort the bonnet when welding on it and i want ZERO filler near my bonnet or anyplace else.. been their before and got the t shirt.. filler sinks.. maybe a month or a year but it sinks and moves, and more so on a bonnet

Trying to keep the car absolutly standard GTI spec bodywork, only thing to be welded up is the hole on the wing where the ariel used to be

Other non standard things planned is full stone chipping of the under sills etc which are behind the plastics sill trims and also bumpers

plus he didnt want to copy me lol, joking kells
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 July 2011, 20:22
Wanna see some emotion from you on wednesday Roger  :grin:

Looking forward to seeing yours :cool:

 
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Post by: Wayne on 23 July 2011, 20:26
Looking forward to seeing this finished Brad :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 July 2011, 20:39
cheers wayne.. good speaking to you earlier Btw  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 23 July 2011, 20:40
Wanna see some emotion from you on wednesday Roger  :grin:

Looking forward to seeing yours :cool:

 

if i was in TOP GUN they would call me "ice"

No emotion, and heartless and at the same time a decent guy
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 23 July 2011, 20:42
cheers wayne.. good speaking to you earlier Btw  :smiley:

Yes, thanks was good to have a chat. :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 28 July 2011, 22:47
Its coming a long well, wont get the car back till next week, but here is what the paint is like and this is BEFORE its been flat and polished  :smiley:

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3239/paintx.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/paintx.jpg/)

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Post by: SoundillusioN on 28 July 2011, 22:55
Its coming a long well, wont get the car back till next week, but here is what the paint is like and this is BEFORE its been flat and polished  :smiley:

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3239/paintx.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/paintx.jpg/)




Looks sh*t!  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 28 July 2011, 23:20
Its coming a long well, wont get the car back till next week, but here is what the paint is like and this is BEFORE its been flat and polished  :smiley:

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3239/paintx.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/paintx.jpg/)



Who's the bellend taking the picture?

 :laugh: :laugh: :kiss:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 28 July 2011, 23:22
The Bellend is my mate who is painting the car :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 28 July 2011, 23:24
The Bellend is my mate who is painting the car :wink:

Damn it!... we were hoping it was you!


Looks ace! Be good to see the whole car soon. :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 28 July 2011, 23:27
pictures of me are all over my Facebook if you are desperate to see me  :grin:

The give away that it is not me is the phone he is using, im Apple iPhone - he is using a Crapburry  :wink:

looking forward to seeing it too. will go down on the weekend :smiley:
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Post by: Wayne on 28 July 2011, 23:35
Looking foward to seeing it  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 30 July 2011, 12:45
Small modification to my clocks.

Liked the S3 logos on the dials of the S3, so i had some stickers made up exact replica but in black so they show on my dial faces which are silver

Iv put the sticker in the exact same location as it is on the S3 clocks. i really like the subtle mod, here is a couple of pics

(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5861/imagezox.jpg)

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5774/imagekjz.jpg)
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Post by: Bellend on 30 July 2011, 13:21
Fair play.  :cool:

Hows that respray coming along?

I think you need to get on to James at E38 to get a mag feature of PVW.  :cool:

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Post by: F17BAD on 30 July 2011, 13:49
cheers dude, paint should be finished by wednesday

really cant wait  :cool:

Would be good for a Magazine article mate  :smiley:

P.S got those trims man, massive thanks for that, i need to sort you out for those bad boys
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Post by: Bellend on 30 July 2011, 13:51
cheers dude, paint should be finished by wednesday

really cant wait  :cool:

Would be good for a Magazine article mate  :smiley:

P.S got those trims man, massive thanks for that, i need to sort you out for those bad boys

Nice one, bet you can't. Can't wait 'til I'm in the position moneywise in a few years to do something like this to a car.  :cool:

No worries bud, just sort the postage mate.  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 30 July 2011, 14:00
cheers dude, paint should be finished by wednesday

really cant wait  :cool:

Would be good for a Magazine article mate  :smiley:

P.S got those trims man, massive thanks for that, i need to sort you out for those bad boys

Nice one, bet you can't. Can't wait 'til I'm in the position moneywise in a few years to do something like this to a car.  :cool:

No worries bud, just sort the postage mate.  :cool:

Its not cheap to do it to this standard i wont lie, but its well worth it, just do what i did and take the time to plan it out. Makes the conversion run smooth. lets not forget we had never done anything like this before and after we had stripped the bits we needed of the green 16v car and also stripped mine we got the S3 engine in my car and running in 3 days  :smiley:

Let me know the postage costs mate and ill sort it, appreciate what ya did. those trims are now in the bodysho awaiting modifications to suit my pulled arches  :cool:
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Post by: Bellend on 30 July 2011, 14:14
Yeah but that's what makes it stand apart from most cars. It looks VW quality, not many modified cars (including mine by a massive shot) do.

Will do when I get a computer mate, no worries, you can just take me for a spin if I meet ya at a show.  :grin: :tongue:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 July 2011, 15:05
Cheers dude  :cool: :cool:

are you going to edition 38 ??
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 July 2011, 15:10
Nice touch with the clocks.  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 30 July 2011, 21:26
Clocks look great, very subtle  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Diamond Hell on 30 July 2011, 21:29
If you wanted an S3 then why not buy an S3?

If you wanted a Golf3 with an S3 engine in the front of it, why start putting S3 decals on it?  It's not an S3, it's a Golf3

An S3 is Haldex 4WD and can deploy its power and will handle with it.

Your 2WD non-LSD (last I checked) is surely going to torque-steer like a fool.  :huh:

Built to be driven?  Not built to be driven hard though.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Fabla on 30 July 2011, 22:10
Clocks are really nice. I do like them!!  :wink:

Diamond Hell, go take some valium.  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 30 July 2011, 22:16
If you wanted an S3 then why not buy an S3?

If you wanted a Golf3 with an S3 engine in the front of it, why start putting S3 decals on it?  It's not an S3, it's a Golf3

An S3 is Haldex 4WD and can deploy its power and will handle with it.

Your 2WD non-LSD (last I checked) is surely going to torque-steer like a fool.  :huh:

Built to be driven?  Not built to be driven hard though.


In a nutshell - I did all this because I just wanted to.

And more is to come  :wink:

Fabla - cheers  :smiley:


Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 July 2011, 22:41
If you wanted an S3 then why not buy an S3?

If you wanted a Golf3 with an S3 engine in the front of it, why start putting S3 decals on it?  It's not an S3, it's a Golf3

An S3 is Haldex 4WD and can deploy its power and will handle with it.

Your 2WD non-LSD (last I checked) is surely going to torque-steer like a fool.  :huh:

Built to be driven?  Not built to be driven hard though.

Doesn't really matter does it?  He's happy.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: apie2004 on 30 July 2011, 22:56
If you wanted an S3 then why not buy an S3?

If you wanted a Golf3 with an S3 engine in the front of it, why start putting S3 decals on it?  It's not an S3, it's a Golf3

An S3 is Haldex 4WD and can deploy its power and will handle with it.

Your 2WD non-LSD (last I checked) is surely going to torque-steer like a fool.  :huh:

Built to be driven?  Not built to be driven hard though.

Doesn't really matter does it?  He's happy.

DH Happy?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 July 2011, 22:57
If you wanted an S3 then why not buy an S3?

If you wanted a Golf3 with an S3 engine in the front of it, why start putting S3 decals on it?  It's not an S3, it's a Golf3

An S3 is Haldex 4WD and can deploy its power and will handle with it.

Your 2WD non-LSD (last I checked) is surely going to torque-steer like a fool.  :huh:

Built to be driven?  Not built to be driven hard though.

Doesn't really matter does it?  He's happy.

DH Happy?

No, Brad.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 31 July 2011, 01:04
If you wanted an S3 then why not buy an S3?

If you wanted a Golf3 with an S3 engine in the front of it, why start putting S3 decals on it?  It's not an S3, it's a Golf3

An S3 is Haldex 4WD and can deploy its power and will handle with it.

Your 2WD non-LSD (last I checked) is surely going to torque-steer like a fool.  :huh:

Built to be driven?  Not built to be driven hard though.




In a nutshell - I did all this because I just wanted to.

And more is to come  :wink:

Fabla - cheers  :smiley:




In a nut shell brad you did it cos you can :smiley:

DH, never read your build thread but it must be boring
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 31 July 2011, 09:29
Is Damon Hill trying it again??  :huh: I've looked at his thread. All it is, is he talks about how fast he can go round corners in his "beat up" synchro and get his ego massaged by a few followers.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 31 July 2011, 10:08
Funny how he STFU til he can find some tiny flaw in his mind.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 31 July 2011, 12:39
To be fair, putting S3 badges on a G3 just because it's got a 1.8T engine does look pretty pretentious IMHO.

It's not the engine that makes the car otherwise octavia's and anni's and leons would all have S3 badges on them.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 31 July 2011, 13:06
To be fair, putting S3 badges on a G3 just because it's got a 1.8T engine does look pretty pretentious IMHO.

It's not the engine that makes the car otherwise octavia's and anni's and leons would all have S3 badges on them.

opinions - we are all entitled to them  :kiss:

however, the engine in the S3 is much different to that found in Octavia's, annies and normal Cupras. Do ya research bext time  :wink:

Its got a audi S3 engine in it, as much as you or others dont like that its a fact.. would you be saying the same if i had fitted the Audi clocks which have the S3 logo on ??

Is it Pretenteous i have Porsche logos on the Porsche rims ?

Is it pretenteous i have Recaro stictched into my Recaro seats ??

Or is it all just pretenteous becasue of the Green eyed monster ???

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 31 July 2011, 13:13
To be fair, putting S3 badges on a G3 just because it's got a 1.8T engine does look pretty pretentious IMHO.

It's not the engine that makes the car otherwise octavia's and anni's and leons would all have S3 badges on them.

opinions - we are all entitled to them  :kiss:

however, the engine in the S3 is much different to that found in Octavia's, annies and normal Cupras. Do ya research bext time  :wink:

Its got a audi S3 engine in it, as much as you or others dont like that its a fact.. would you be saying the same if i had fitted the Audi clocks which have the S3 logo on ??

Is it Pretenteous i have Porsche logos on the Porsche rims ?

Is it pretenteous i have Recaro stictched into my Recaro seats ??

Or is it all just pretenteous becasue of the Green eyed monster ???



Haters gonna hate.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: JC on 31 July 2011, 13:18
off we go again  :grin:

Followers, hahahaha says the followers on this thread  :rolleyes:

and before the DH mate thing comes up  :smug:

 i have already said, this is the ONLY mk3 i would consider owning, but i would remove the wheels for summat true vag not porka  :undecided:

doesnt that make me a follower too  :rolleyes:

and as said before, fair play to kells for  :shocked:

1, doing this conversion :afro:

2, paying what he did for the lump to do it.  :cool:

Everyones views are different, and EVERYONE can post their views, its a free to use open forum, dont like it, dont post , simples  :tongue:

time for some

(http://chan.catiewayne.com/m/src/131163312178.gif)

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Dmonday on 31 July 2011, 13:24
Bored of other peoples opinions and what they would do with the car if they owned it and just DH in general. I want to see more of this car pretty please?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 31 July 2011, 13:31
Cheers danny mate.

Lots more pics once i get down to the bodyshop - had a very heavy weekend head is a shed  :laugh: so ill be going to see the car tomo

Chuff, fair comment  :smiley: 

built the Car to please myself. i never expected everyone to appreciate all the work done or mods that are on it. I guess im not doing too bad if some tiny decals on the clocks are all thats to moan about  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: JC on 31 July 2011, 13:32
Chuff, fair comment  :smiley: 

 :wink:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 31 July 2011, 13:48
I never said it was anything other than my opinion.

It's a tidy car with a lovely engine and I'd be proud to own it.

But obviously, because we are different there are little things that I would have done differently.

Aren't offering opinions on things the point of a public forum?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 31 July 2011, 13:58
yea i never said it wasnt. :smiley:

you were wrong tho in regard to thinking the engine is the same as whats found in annies, octavias and normal Cupras

lots of differances, even the early S3 engines (APY CODE) have diferences from the later and better AMK / BAM :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 31 July 2011, 14:00
Go crash it into a fence then it can be like mine, to my taste.  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 31 July 2011, 18:59
yea i never said it wasnt. :smiley:

you were wrong tho in regard to thinking the engine is the same as whats found in annies, octavias and normal Cupras

lots of differances, even the early S3 engines (APY CODE) have diferences from the later and better AMK / BAM :wink:

Im not to familiar with the details of these engines, what are the variances in power output etc?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 31 July 2011, 19:02
yea i never said it wasnt. :smiley:

you were wrong tho in regard to thinking the engine is the same as whats found in annies, octavias and normal Cupras

lots of differances, even the early S3 engines (APY CODE) have diferences from the later and better AMK / BAM :wink:

Im not to familiar with the details of these engines, what are the variances in power output etc?

It is a minefield tbh, Leon Cupra, Octavia RS and Golf Anni (plus a few non Anni) had 180bhp, Cupra R and early S3 had 210bhp, they then switched to the 225bhp lump, I think the Cupra R ended with the same in the end as well.
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 31 July 2011, 19:05
Oh blimey that much difference, now i understand why people would choose to be so particular on the donor vehicle then.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 31 July 2011, 19:09
Oh blimey that much difference, now i understand why people would choose to be so particular on the donor vehicle then.

Well in a roundabout way the 1.8t was 150/180/210 or 225bhp but so many codes etc and some are rated more than others.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jamin on 31 July 2011, 19:14
This car is bonkers....I love it and think the S3 badge is a nice touch.

Don't hate the player......have the game  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 31 July 2011, 19:25
Oh blimey that much difference, now i understand why people would choose to be so particular on the donor vehicle then.

Main differences are turbos and vvt. K03 and k03s in normal 1.8t's. These are normally 150/180hp and will remap to 190hp(k03) and 210/225(k03s). The TT/S3/LCR (210/225hp) 1.8t comes with a k04, along with different injectors,vvt and lower compression ratio, will remap to 260/270hp.
That's why these engines are in higher demand.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 31 July 2011, 19:38
 :smiley: cheers mate


Regarding engines, theirs so much differences between the engines found in the notmal 20vt cars and then the S3/Cupra R/ Certain TT's

You can easy spot the difference by which side the throttle body is on. On waynes 180bhp, and on all the normal 20vt engines it sites on the left hand side of the inlet manifold

On the high output engines (APY, AMK, BAM) it sits on the right, you also get the bigger K04 turbo on these plus loads of other bits although the APY is not as good as the AMK/BAM.

AMK / BAM have stuff like VVT,

The only difference between the AMK and the Bam engines is the Map on the ECU. Audi wanted the then new out TT to be up on power over the S3 so it was mapped down. later facelift S3 and Cupra R got the Bam too

AMK does have bigger gudgeon pins and is regarded to be the stronger and more sought after (i have this engine in mine :nerd:)

take a read here

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a3-s3-forum-8l-chassis/90968-amk-bam-engine.html

and also take a look at this

 (http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/734/spreadsheetpic.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/spreadsheetpic.jpg/)


Here is a pic of a Audi TT with the 180bhp engine as found in the annie and Octavia VRS - notich the engine cover shape and also the throttle body on the left

(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/254/tt180engine.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/tt180engine.jpg/)

And hereis my AMK S3 lump, look at engine cover and also throttle body to the right. also notice the charge pipes down the left side of the engine, different shape manifold etc

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3681/imagegqd.jpg)


Very sought after engines hence the price they go for (for a good one)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 31 July 2011, 19:42
Very handy guide :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 31 July 2011, 19:47
it is yea, needs a few bits filling in still, but basically AMK / BAM are same , forge crank, vvt large injectors etc
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 August 2011, 09:43
Small video with some of the conversion pics all thrown in...

http://youtu.be/xWr-YsCTmVo

 :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 02 August 2011, 20:45
Awesome work and an amazing classic track.  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 August 2011, 21:07
cheers  :cool:

(The track was selected from my vast record collection - such a epic record it is too)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 02 August 2011, 21:11
Nice little video and a flipping awesome tune :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 August 2011, 21:20
Really is a epic track.. Should feel the energy when it gets dropped in a club of like minded folk... even better at a illegal event outdoors when the sun is just coming up... :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

BIG track indeed
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 02 August 2011, 21:31
Really is a epic track.. Should feel the energy when it gets dropped in a club of like minded folk... even better at a illegal event outdoors when the sun is just coming up... :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

BIG track indeed

I'll have to check out one of your nights when I make the move over to Donny :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 August 2011, 21:53
Nice little vid and i'm guessing all the pics are pre respray....  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 August 2011, 21:57
the pics are all PRE respray yes..

been told i should have the car back saturday.. been down today to check up on it and all is well, most importantly the engine is dust free and my covering up and packing of it has worked (OCD)  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 August 2011, 21:58
the pics are all PRE respray yes..

been told i should have the car back saturday.. been down today to check up on it and all is well, most importantly the engine is dust free and my covering up and packing of it has worked (OCD)  :grin:
Good, well you need to re-edit your video when done so you can show what appears to be mint paint being stripped off and repainted!  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 August 2011, 22:05
 :grin:   :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 August 2011, 22:09
:grin:   :laugh:

Well it would look a bit mad on youtube to those that don't know the car.. You could put in the comments that you got a stone chip and this is how you deal with it... OCD for sure.  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 August 2011, 22:20
Its all got out of hand... this car was intended to be only a runner for my club nite (taking international DJs to and from airports and hotels, and to the Events etc)

and 5 years on and we have what we see today....   :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 August 2011, 22:27
Its all got out of hand... this car was intended to be only a runner for my club nite (taking international DJs to and from airports and hotels, and to the Events etc)

and 5 years on and we have what we see today....   :evil:

 :grin:

Mine was just going to have a new set of wheels when I bought it and the car would have been complete!  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tdi_blu on 03 August 2011, 09:07
As already said awsome work and I like the little video  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 August 2011, 12:33
Why have you got an Audi S3 cover on the engine from a Leon Cupra R? :huh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: jamrock on 03 August 2011, 13:01
once again kells.... :cool:

Trackstar as well!!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 August 2011, 13:29
Why have you got an Audi S3 cover on the engine from a Leon Cupra R? :huh:

Dont like Cupra one cheepo carbon crap insert

dont like S3 cover coz its RED 5V part

this is actually off a TT that uses the BAM engine  :wink:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 August 2011, 13:30
once again kells.... :cool:

Trackstar as well!!!

thanks mate :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 August 2011, 20:10
Why have you got an Audi S3 cover on the engine from a Leon Cupra R? :huh:

Dont like Cupra one cheepo carbon crap insert

dont like S3 cover coz its RED 5V part

this is actually off a TT that uses the BAM engine  :wink:



Nice motor and lots of respect but but what warrants the clocks having S3 or the title if the engine is not from an S3?

What is from an S3?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 03 August 2011, 20:14
Nice car Brad, looks like you proved Damon Hill wrong after all  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 August 2011, 21:21
Cheers mate. He under estimated me I think haha

Adam, does the AMK and BAM engine not come from S3's ? LOL!!

Just because this particular one came from a LCR does not mean sh!t lol. I mean u wouldn't remove your S3 badge off your S3 if u got a replacement engine from a LCR due to failure of your original unit would you ?

It's the exact same engine, easier to say it's from a S3 because many people don't realise the LCR has the same lump..

If this sh!t is all u can moan about then I'm doing really well hahaha
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 August 2011, 21:26
Don't get pissy with me! I was just confused hahaha
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 August 2011, 21:53
Don't get pissy with me! I was just confused hahaha

Eh are you having a giraffe ? I would have thought you were coming across a bit iffy tbh lol

You are asking absolutely stupid things and you know it (or at least I hope u do) haha

If it helps, the engine has no Seat logos on it, just Audi and VW. even the ECU has a VW logo on it (what a surprise)

All the service parts bought  were from a Audi dealer and were S3 parts

The engine is a Audi engine which the LCR borrows
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 August 2011, 21:55
Don't get pissy with me! I was just confused hahaha

Eh are you having a giraffe ? I would have thought you were coming across a bit iffy tbh lol

You are asking absolutely stupid things and you know it (or at least I hope u do) haha

If it helps, the engine has no Seat logos on it, just Audi and VW. even the ECU has a VW logo on it (what a surprise)

All the service parts bought  were from a Audi dealer and were S3 parts

The engine is a Audi engine which the LCR borrows

I thought it was a good question as to why.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 August 2011, 22:10
All you need to know is this is the audi S3 sngine, and to those that are not familiar with a LCR thats all they need to know too  :wink:

And what a great engine it is too :smiley:

If you missed what has already been said in the past, it took me a very very long time to find a AMK or BAM with the miles on i wanted. now i did not give a monkeys if this came from a TT, a LCR or a S3 as long as it met my demands

these were miles on the clock and also it had to be still in the donor car

considered buyin a full S3 to break - most have massive miles

Got lucky with this engine, 40k. came with everything i needed even the clocks and was also offered the S3 clocks too if i wanted which i didnt

i sold the LCR clocks for £80 and i sold some other bits i did not need

i have the engine in my golf i wanted. Its easier to say S3 to people rather than LCR.. (i do know a alot of peopel who are not into cars y'know  :rolleyes:, but who are actually interested in the work done)

hope this helps your confusion
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 August 2011, 22:16
Me thinks I hit a nerve :undecided:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Dan34 on 03 August 2011, 22:17
You trying to convince Adam or yourself Kells?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 03 August 2011, 22:25
I can appreciate the effort gone into this, and I envy the fact you've got a car which is essentially what I'd like from my MK3. However I don't have the money to do such a thing nor will I for quite a long time.

I don't like the fact you've put an S3 sticker on the dials, in my honest opinion it looks tacky, and regardless of engine coming from S3 or not, the car is still a MK3 on the face of it, you should be proud of that fact and not face it with something it actually isn't.

That being said, looking forward to the respray pics. :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dan_apps on 03 August 2011, 22:29
nice work kells, looks good :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 03 August 2011, 22:36
its bad in't it brad

No one has had the pleasure of looking at your car in the flesh like i have and the only thing they can do is pick at a little S3 badge you like

Car is amazing, great interior, great engine, soon to have a great body

and at least you can sleep well at night knowing boldy locks likes it (private joke)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 August 2011, 22:38
I think this could be the nicest MK3 I have seen. Just pointing something out that confused me thats all :)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Dan34 on 03 August 2011, 22:39
I think this could be the nicest MK3 I have seen. Just pointing something out that confused me thats all :)

+1 its a great car, no doubting that! Just you did seem to bite abit at Adams comment.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: JC on 03 August 2011, 22:44
better ground bait than DH Adam  :laugh:



kells - i wouldnt have a clue what engines are where past 1991, never have, and to be fair doubt it ever will.

 and thought yours WAS out of an S3.   :shocked:

So it confused the fcuk outta me with LCR as i didnt know that either.   :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 August 2011, 22:47
cheers Kirk fella, very nice of you to say and respect due for the comment, same to you dan_apps :wink:

seems the green eyed monster keeps popping its ugly head in this thread from time to time via certain forum members which is a real shame. Built this car for ME and how i want it to be.. if iv took what any of you have said wrong ill take it back but its just how it sometimes seems to me and im sure you can all understand this with some of the hassle iv had in the past.

For example, if somebody like Adam questions something so small its easy for me to take you worng, im not here to hate, id rather participate - i know im not the most popular on this forum but im not asking anyone to like me or the car but please just try and respect the huge effort iv put in on this, myself and Ben have worked very hard.. could have paid some garage to do it but id rather build than buy..

i could have bought a S3 with what this cost, or a LCR or many other cars but i wanted to see this one through and make what is my dream GTI Golf.

just hope some people enjoy reading the build thread like i do many others.



On a side notr - Dan 34 LOL, whats to convince ??? are you saying the engine under my hood is not the same one as what you will find under the hood of a S3?  because really, it actually is the very same...
this really is pathetic sh!t and i cant actually believe we have to have this sort of discussion.

Paint should be completed this weekend, possibly just after.. cant wait to get it back its looking really good

Roger LOL  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

P.s cheers adam for that comment :wink:

Chuff - your a great example - too confusing saying LCR as many poeple think they are the 180 engine, the R ones in the mk1 were the AMK / BAM borrowed from the S3 but WITHOUT HALDEX meaning they are 2WD 
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 03 August 2011, 22:48
I think this could be the nicest MK3 I have seen. Just pointing something out that confused me thats all :)

+1 its a great car, no doubting that! Just you did seem to bite abit at Adams comment.

To be fair Dan brad might have taken it the wrong way mate you never know, brads had loads of sh!t off haters due to jealousy or people just been arses, I personally know brad and got to know him well over the last 4/5 months and i know hes but his heart and sole into this and built his dream car to enjoy and for other people to enjoy and with his OCD  :laugh: just like to keep it clean and looking mean

Adam not saying your jealous mate buy the way :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 August 2011, 22:51
I think this could be the nicest MK3 I have seen. Just pointing something out that confused me thats all :)

+1 its a great car, no doubting that! Just you did seem to bite abit at Adams comment.

ah sorry pal, took it wrong  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 August 2011, 22:54
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/734/spreadsheetpic.jpg)

LCR comes with AMK / BAM

here is the engine code list taken from crappy qpeng site - look at the AMK and BAM   :wink:

http://www.qpeng.com/faqs/engine_faqs/all_these_engine_codes_can_you_explain_what_they_mean.html
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 04 August 2011, 01:31
Adam not saying your jealous mate buy the way :smiley:

To be honest I am jealous, Very!

I wasn't being a green eyed moster though and nor was I trying to ridicule.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Fabla on 04 August 2011, 12:02
I think this could be the nicest MK3 I have seen. Just pointing something out that confused me thats all :)
+1
It is the nicest MK3!!
Yet to see a nicer one on here  :cool:

Now that it's official that you have an s3 engine, you now need the S3 badge   :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 August 2011, 12:18
Cheers mate :smiley:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: golf-sib on 04 August 2011, 12:25
shouldn't you rip the gti badge off and put cupra r? just thought I'd add petrol to the fire  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 August 2011, 12:31
 :grin: :grin:

the car is a bit of a Mule really

Golf GTI shell

Porsche Rims

S3 / Cupra / TT 225 engine (chose which ever u like best)

16v Gearbox from mk3 gti

Pedal box from a late Mk3 (cheers roger) with a S3  DBW pedal custom fabricated (Ben big bore special)

But i love it...the only hint to its powerplant is the tiny sticker on the clocks and the Front Mount Intercooler for those that spot it
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: golf-sib on 04 August 2011, 12:32
whilst there take the VW badge off and put a seat one on, and since its part Leon, tear half off the golf badge off and add half of the Leon one on. then it will be a "Lelf" or a "Goon". It worked with the Bolf  :grin:

whilst on there, since its a s car the first letter needs to be an s, so it will be a "soon" or a "self". Not sure how to cooperate the Porsche into it, but wheels usually don't count...
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 August 2011, 12:39
 :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: golf-sib on 04 August 2011, 12:43
Makes for pub talk when you explain to them you have vag soon or self... actually forget it! Try explaining that whilst drunk or to someone drunk.  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Seanl on 04 August 2011, 12:47
 :grin:

I didnt know the LCR had that lump either so it worked for me. I think the S3 badge on the clocks is a bit pointless, but again, I can appreciate the effort that has gone in, and to even do this just adds to that effort. Never met Brad, but always been good to me when talking on the forum. At the end of the day, its his car, and he can do WTF he likes to it. And I like it immensely too! Agree, also its the cleanest and best on the forum and a credit to the dedication and OCD that has gone into it.  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Fabla on 04 August 2011, 14:52
Passer by: 'Hi mate, nice car. What is it?'

F17BAD: Oh hi, it's a VW TT Cupra rs3 GTI Boxter  :laugh:


On a more serious note: What is the actual bhp & torque??
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 04 August 2011, 14:55
What did I start :(
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: golf-sib on 04 August 2011, 15:08
What did I start :(

A S-Lelf or S-Goon depending how you look at it  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 August 2011, 15:39
Passer by: 'Hi mate, nice car. What is it?'

F17BAD: Oh hi, it's a VW TT Cupra rs3 GTI Boxter  :laugh:


On a more serious note: What is the actual bhp & torque??

right it goes like this:

the early S3 came with engine codes APY 210bhp (not a fan of this unit because its not as strong and does not have the features of the later S3 engines and also does not map to as much - so i did not want one of these)

Later S3 and all the LCR came with the AMK or BAM  (early S3 came with crap APY lump)

These 2 are exactly the same (Bam / Amk) apart from the standard Map

Bam - 225bhp (actually 222bhp to be nerdy :nerd:)
AMK - 210bhp



Iv taken this from the Audi sport forum:

Originally Posted by Duktor 
so the only difference is the stamp for the engine code then ?

mechanically and spec wise then yes they are the same... there are of course subtle differences which make no difference to the performance but are a result of Audi using up the parts bin for the change over to facelift S3's...

One example of this is the bevel box bracket... an AMK S3 (Dane's) that is in for rods has a cast alloy bracket supporting the bevel box to the engine block whereas mine (also an AMK) has a pressed steel one... there will also be revisions to parts that change slightly over the years such as later version coil packs and stuff... depends where you want to go with it all...

At the end of the day, AMK and BAM map up the same... there is no compelling reason to choose BAM over AMK and vice versa other than BAM are in newer S3's... if you can afford to buy a newer S3 you will get a BAM, go for a changeover facelift and you get an AMK...

Same internals, same head... the earlier AMK's had the drillings for the SAI blocked with steel ball bearings as heads were being used up but are still the same small port head the BAM have (and the APY for that matter).

The differences are minimal and largely academic




So yeah, both the AMK and BAM are the ones to look for and map to the exact same because the only difference betrween the 2 codes is the standard mapping. the BAM engine was released for the all new (at the time) TT and Audi wanted this to be more powerfull out of the box than the S3.
Once the TT had made its place in the market the S3 also got the Bam as did the LCR...
Early LCR has the AMK and so do some later ones so its difficult to pin point which has what

Mine is the AMK (a late AMK at that) out of a 2003 LCR

you get more bang for your buck with a remap from the AMK tho coz its mapped down from standard :evil:

Mine had a few mods so for

3" custom Stainless steel downpipe,
NO CAT
K&N Induction kit
N249 delete
Full Jetex
Forge 007 DV
80mm TIP
Front mount intercooler

and will soon have a full custom remap so ill be looking at around 270 BHP mark  :cool:



Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 04 August 2011, 17:37
you spoke to MJ for me yet mate
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 August 2011, 18:32
Called him earlier but no answer, I'll bell him after my tea. He will be at home then so will be able to answer. He is always really busy at work  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 04 August 2011, 21:09
furry muth mate :smiley:

really interested on the centres doing but hush hush about the trim  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 August 2011, 22:46
furry muth mate :smiley:

really interested on the centres doing but hush hush about the trim  :wink:

had to go out mate urgent, ill speak with him tomo  :wink: will deffo keep your idea on the hush  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: eightyeightmph on 06 August 2011, 11:43
It's Saturday! Pics already Kells!! :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: sharki786 on 06 August 2011, 11:53
looking better everytime i look at your thread. but 1 thing im thinking as its FWD wont it have loads of steer torque?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Fabla on 06 August 2011, 12:58
Torque steer is fun! Makes you concentrate more when driving.  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: sharki786 on 06 August 2011, 16:39
Torque steer is fun! Makes you concentrate more when driving.  :grin:

lol +1 :cool: TORQUE STEER LIKE A MOFO!! :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 06 August 2011, 17:00
Been helping with the car all day 3 doors are on and iv got all the windows backing and wiring completed. Paint is looking so fresh it's gonna be gleaming at VW festival

I think it will be Tuesday or Wednesday before I get the car home still lots to do but so far so good  :cool:

Torque steer, yeah it does the thing is a animal but I love it
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 07 August 2011, 13:14
 A few pics of where we are at with the car as per yesterday

Got the remaining parts prepaired up and into primer (used Black primer)

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1980/imagexwb.jpg)

(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1484/imagerdpd.jpg)

(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7930/imageadso.jpg)

Then got the Black coat on too

(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3746/imageqqtx.jpg)

(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2300/imageazt.jpg)

Then Started to flattern down and polish up the parts

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6331/imagejvm.jpg)

whilst he was on with that i took the chance to roll the shell outside and check to see if my superb engine covering up kept all the dust away - it has to perfection not a spec of dust in sight

(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2899/imageehn.jpg)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9631/imagerwl.jpg)

looking at getting it back midweek ready for VW festival

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dubsport on 07 August 2011, 15:56
Dude I love thia car so much!!! :drool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 07 August 2011, 16:47
Cheers man, the Bora of yours looks great too - and i usually hate boras.. think your has been the only one iv actually liked!!   :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 07 August 2011, 18:26
nice!!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: B1rd1e9 on 07 August 2011, 18:40
very nice done some great work there my engine bay sounds the same has yours woz but im not really sure ow 2 clean it defo not 2 the extent urs is  :undecided: im likin the headlights aswel wudnt mind sum bright xeons 4 myn and ive just put a new head unit and door speakers in but 4 sum reason it aint no wear near has loud has i wont
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 07 August 2011, 20:39
very nice done some great work there my engine bay sounds the same has yours woz but im not really sure ow 2 clean it defo not 2 the extent urs is  :undecided: im likin the headlights aswel wudnt mind sum bright xeons 4 myn and ive just put a new head unit and door speakers in but 4 sum reason it aint no wear near has loud has i wont

Is this english :undecided:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 07 August 2011, 21:12
:D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 07 August 2011, 21:23
very nice done some great work there my engine bay sounds the same has yours woz but im not really sure ow 2 clean it defo not 2 the extent urs is  :undecided: im likin the headlights aswel wudnt mind sum bright xeons 4 myn and ive just put a new head unit and door speakers in but 4 sum reason it aint no wear near has loud has i wont

I shall translate:

Quote
Very nice, you've done some great work there. My engine bay sounds as if it is in the same condition as your's was, I'm not really sure how to clean it. It won't be to the same standard as yours though :undecided:

I'm liking your headlights as well, I wouldn't mind some highly illegal HID's for my car so I can drive around blinding people. I've also just fitted a new head unit and door speakers but they are not so loud that they annoy everyone along every street I drive along so they need to be louder.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 07 August 2011, 21:26
LOL

cheers for the replys guys, cant wait to get the car back from the paintshop :cool:


P.s, on a side not, just incase -  please people dont turn my page into a debate about HIDS   :smiley:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Seanl on 07 August 2011, 21:31
I shall translate:

Quote
Very nice, you've done some great work there. My engine bay sounds as if it is in the same condition as your's was, I'm not really sure how to clean it. It won't be to the same standard as yours though :undecided:

I'm liking your headlights as well, I wouldn't mind some highly illegal HID's for my car so I can drive around blinding people. I've also just fitted a new head unit and door speakers but they are not so loud that they annoy everyone along every street I drive along so they need to be louder.
[/quote]

 :laugh:

LOL

cheers for the replys guys, cant wait to get the car back from the paintshop :cool:


P.s, on a side not, just incase -  please people dont turn my page into a debate about HIDS    :smiley:



 :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 07 August 2011, 21:46
Sorry buddy, get it back on track!

I cannot wait to see this with fresh paint! Craig & Nick are pretty excited to get their hands on it when you go for your remap, you'll have a great day at Carbon and the drive home will be amazing :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 07 August 2011, 21:53
Cheers Dom mate, really looking forward to taking it over to them to sort - going by your results its plain to see these guys know their stuff  :evil: :evil: plus, more important, Nick is an absolute star! and the type of person i like to work with
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 10 August 2011, 10:37

P.s, on a side not, just incase -  please people dont turn my page into a debate about HIDS   :smiley:


Surely thats the most important bit to comment on?? :undecided: :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 10 August 2011, 11:55
Russ  :grin:  that and also the S3 sticker on the Clocks  and also if the donor car was S3 or LCR  :grin: :grin:

Should have car back today... was looking fly last night :cool:

Birthday car!!, its 19 years old today  :shocked:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Mikester on 10 August 2011, 19:16
Birthday car!!, its 19 years old today  :shocked:

Time to upgrade then? lol
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Seanl on 10 August 2011, 20:28
Pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 10 August 2011, 22:11
F17BAD is almost ready to see the light of day again..

just a few bits left to fit then i can bring it home to fit all the interior (again haha)

i dont have many pics as its late and i was desperate for a Bab and my tea so i appologise for the poor quality - will get more tomo but im really happy, its shiny as fook

(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/4653/imagedrb.jpg)

(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/659/imageheo.jpg)

(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7788/imageapg.jpg)

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/294/ddddddb.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/ddddddb.jpg/)

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: lemski on 10 August 2011, 22:13
She's a beute kells. Should be very pround of what you have built
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 10 August 2011, 22:15
cheers mate, im over the moon with the car, it just looks ace (my opinion), its like a new car :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: lemski on 10 August 2011, 22:20
Am sure its alot of peoples oppinions mate. remap next then? I bet you love shockin people with your more door mk3 down the motorways ect  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 10 August 2011, 22:23
Yeah remap next, off to see the Doc @ Carbon..

Love shocking people with the car, people dont know what the hell is going on  :laugh:

5 door GTI 8v....  OEM look,  last thing you would think it has is the engine its running :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: lemski on 10 August 2011, 22:41
The doc. Thats good to know.
I bet people are not amused. I love engine swaps in stock looking cars.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 10 August 2011, 22:44
People get a bit pisssed off, guy in a Green focus RS was not a happy bunny at all - he picked the wrong 8v to try make a fool of....  the fool ended up been himself  :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: eightyeightmph on 10 August 2011, 22:46
Nice touch with the rear spoiler! All looks epic :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 10 August 2011, 22:59
Nice touch with the rear spoiler! All looks epic :afro:

cheers mate  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 10 August 2011, 23:03
Nice touch with the rear spoiler! All looks epic :afro:

cheers mate  :cool:

Have you got a date in mind for the trip to Carbon? PM me if you like :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: travisreeve on 11 August 2011, 00:03
very nice  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 11 August 2011, 09:41
How can you call someone a cnut without it sounding harsh... cuz that's what you are!!!




Jealous!!!!! :angry: :angry: :angry: :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: lemski on 11 August 2011, 09:50
People get a bit pisssed off, guy in a Green focus RS was not a happy bunny at all - he picked the wrong 8v to try make a fool of....  the fool ended up been himself  :evil:
Ahhh focus rs, I know that feelin. I was on ones back bumper, he couldnt shake my old mk2. Didnt look inpressed
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jimp on 11 August 2011, 11:23
The repsray looks mint :afro: GTI spoiler ftw too, finishes off the rear nicely.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 11 August 2011, 22:14
cheers guys

really cant wait to get the car back home now - tomorrow is the day it will be finally back on my drive..

Rushing to get it ready for VW festival.. not enough time in the day to get things done!! 

 :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 August 2011, 20:47
not many pics because iv only just got the car home and i have loads to do to (TRY) get it ready for VW festival

paint looks superb

P.S I have not washed the car yet, not treated the black plastic parts and the car has no wax and wont for a month because i want to let the paint breathe


(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1729/imagewzo.jpg)

(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/8870/imageufn.jpg)

(http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/5140/imageza.jpg)

(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8384/imageiiq.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Len on 12 August 2011, 20:54
I was told to leave my fresh paint for at least a week before adding wax or any kind of polish!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: The Doc on 12 August 2011, 20:59
That last reflection shot is awesome  :shocked:

Shame he didn't paint my GTD :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 August 2011, 21:11
Len, he told me to leave AT LEAST 1 month

paint has to breath, the thinners in Evaperate and the paint shrinks slightly - hence dont seal it, so ill just leave it 5 week or so


Doc im really pleased with it, car is gonna look amazing with wax on it too  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Seanl on 12 August 2011, 21:13
Wow! Looks absolutely amazing. Congratulations on the cleanest, nicest, brightest, and shineyest mk3 around! Superb.  :wink: Oh and probably fastest!  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 August 2011, 21:17
Aww cheers  mate, means alot to hear stuff like that - im worn out with it all and keeping the engine dust free was a mission and pissed alot of people off in the bodyshop

hats of to them for putting up with me and my many ways  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 12 August 2011, 21:26
Wow! Looks absolutely amazing. Congratulations on the cleanest, nicest, brightest, and shineyest mk3 around! Superb.  :wink: Oh and probably fastest!  :smiley:

one of the shinest mk3 about, dont forget my little mk3 number
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 12 August 2011, 21:58
Looks awesome :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 August 2011, 21:59
cheers  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: eightyeightmph on 12 August 2011, 22:01
:afro: nothing less than expected. Awesome.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Seanl on 12 August 2011, 22:06
Wow! Looks absolutely amazing. Congratulations on the cleanest, nicest, brightest, and shineyest mk3 around! Superb.  :wink: Oh and probably fastest!  :smiley:

one of the shinest mk3 about, dont forget my little mk3 number

Not seen pics of yours done yet!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 12 August 2011, 22:45
Amazing finish... very very jealous...
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: barrym381 on 12 August 2011, 23:11
looks stunning bet it wont see cheap car wash  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: jamrock on 13 August 2011, 01:45
big up urself kells :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: lemski on 13 August 2011, 07:34
Looks amazing mate
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 13 August 2011, 09:58
 :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 13 August 2011, 10:02
Jesus christ dude, she looks stunning. Better than brand new finish  :drool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Mikester on 13 August 2011, 14:17
Looks very good mate.

Just dont drive it ANYWHERE now incase of stone chip. ha!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: archie837 on 13 August 2011, 21:20
This isn't locked
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: JC on 13 August 2011, 21:22
Mysterious forces at work  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: *tell* on 13 August 2011, 21:23
yer nice im liking this alot  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: archie837 on 13 August 2011, 21:24
Mysterious forces at work  :laugh:

Doo doo doo, doo doo doo......
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Seanl on 13 August 2011, 21:47
Looks very good mate.

Just dont drive it ANYWHERE now incase of stone chip. ha!

Yeah your gonna be driving like a granny now with that lump begging to unleash its power!  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 13 August 2011, 23:02
Looking amazing mate, although not a lot else was expected. Two minds about the spoiler but wow, what was my faveorite MK3 is now my faveorite MK3.

Need to get in PVW mate.  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 August 2011, 15:32
Just got back from VW festival, arrived at 9.05AM and the show and shine was full!!!!! so couldnt even get my car on show :angry: :angry: :angry:  really annoyerd, and even more shocked at the state of some of the cars in the show and shine - ruff paint jobs, rust, dirty engines,wheels and interiors.... were some decent ones tho too but not many that id call winners..

Seems you have to camp out to get a chance because my mate who camped said they were lining up to enter at 6AM but people not campinmg could only (try) at 9AM!

had a good day tho..

a couple more snaps of the car

(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5753/imagerf.jpg)

(http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/644/imagemqb.jpg)

(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9463/imageypa.jpg)

Thanks for the comments guys  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 14 August 2011, 15:57
Congrats kells!
Absolutely amazing!!
End of the mk3 road for me, but yours is an absolute inspiration! Thank you!
One day maybe I'll get a car this spotless!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 August 2011, 17:24
cheers man.. not bad considering the car originally cost £700 and looked like a bag of sh!te  :laugh:

how come its end of the road for your mk3 ?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 14 August 2011, 17:44
It looks to mint too take out now  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 14 August 2011, 17:46
Won't clutter your thread, will pm ya! Also see my thread ;)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 August 2011, 17:48
It looks to mint too take out now  :grin:

 :grin: dont say that, its how i feel :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 14 August 2011, 17:56
It looks to mint too take out now  :grin:

 :grin: dont say that, its how i feel :laugh:

That's the problem with having such a nice car compared to an old sh!tter.
Whenever i drive the work van anywhere it never gets hit or damaged, never the same with the car  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 August 2011, 17:57
i know mate its bloody annoying aint it
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: mellow yellow on 14 August 2011, 20:04
shame you couldnt get into show and shine bud. i kept an eye out for your car, now i know why i didnt see it.

i was up at 7:30 and there was plenty of cars making their way over to the show area.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 August 2011, 20:33
i was very pissed off mate, iv hardly slept, eaten, or seen my GF for 3 days getting this car ready for it!!  i went round all the cars in the show and shine, was shocked t see stickers covering rust and rust bubbles on arches (red mk 3), paint runs, dusty interiors, filthy wheels and rust on all 4 arches, broken indicator lights that were filthy and peeling paint (silver mk 3 which had a sticker saying GTI international show and shine winnder 2011 :shocked:)

then their was a seat arosa which was a absolute shed...  i could go on...   

was a few nice cars but theirs like 10 runner ups and 2 x high recomended... some cars will have gone with awards they are not fit for whilst others that were worthy were left out in the car parks!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Horney on 14 August 2011, 20:46
i was very pissed off mate, iv hardly slept, eaten, or seen my GF for 3 days getting this car ready for it!!  i went round all the cars in the show and shine, was shocked t see stickers covering rust and rust bubbles on arches (red mk 3), paint runs, dusty interiors, filthy wheels and rust on all 4 arches, broken indicator lights that were filthy and peeling paint (silver mk 3 which had a sticker saying GTI international show and shine winnder 2011 :shocked:)

then their was a seat arosa which was a absolute shed...  i could go on...   

was a few nice cars but theirs like 10 runner ups and 2 x high recomended... some cars will have gone with awards they are not fit for whilst others that were worthy were left out in the car parks!!

This is always the way with show and shine though, early bird catches the trophy. SOme shows have pre-booking though which works better for those not doing a full weekend.

Nick
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rob_g60 on 14 August 2011, 20:47
looks awesome mate, nice work
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: daz veedub on 14 August 2011, 20:53
 you,ve done a awesome job mate nicest mk3 by far  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 August 2011, 20:54
Cheers Rob  - thought i saw you at the show, your car i mean, their was a almost identical looking mk3 with some club  :cool:

horney, yeah pre book would have been good.

Daz - thanks alot man  :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 14 August 2011, 20:57
You should of argued your corner more kells, did you tell them what it was running, Think next year we need a GolfGTI stand
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 August 2011, 21:12
You should of argued your corner more kells, did you tell them what it was running, Think next year we need a GolfGTI stand

first guy wanted to let me in and he made radio contact with somebody who said it was at capacity and no more cars can enter!!  didnt tell him what the engine was or anything

i didnt see a engine as clean as mine, their was another black mk3 with same lump (was dusty as f**k) and a corrado had a APX TT lump which looks similar to mine and that was filthy

was pretty shocked mate - i remember the what you was saying about quality when your up close and you were right.. 

deffo need golfGTI stand, its a crime their was not one


i could have got the car in if i had put it in forsale section - wish i had done this now
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 14 August 2011, 21:19
Plenty of more shows and shizzle, I got up at 5.30 as i couldnt sleep and me and novak was watching people polishing there cars at 6 in the morning
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 August 2011, 21:27
i was speaking to him, where the hell was you hiding out ??
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 15 August 2011, 16:01
my phone died on me lol, was walking round looking for you and ben, also was looking for grant, I passed out between some stalls for about an hour, those 20 cans of carling got the best of me
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 August 2011, 20:46
More pics for you

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8997/imagejodi.jpg)

(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6691/imagenoj.jpg)

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6134/imagebzt.jpg)

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1079/imageoqy.jpg)

(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/170/imagekaw.jpg)

(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/75/imagevjs.jpg)

(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/322/imagetvgh.jpg)

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6408/imagerev.jpg)

(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/1994/imagelef.jpg)

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7711/imageduy.jpg)

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/4236/imagentv.jpg)

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/4240/imagenca.jpg)

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9656/imagephwl.jpg)

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3637/imagepzx.jpg)

(http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/1708/imagelom.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: porter_89 on 15 August 2011, 20:48
looks like alot of work gone into that far ewnough mate

chers
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Post by: Wayne on 15 August 2011, 20:49
Stunning  :cool:

What is the thinking behind the Turbo Technics badge :undecided:
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Post by: F17BAD on 15 August 2011, 20:51
came with my turbo

i like it, many wont

it stays

 :cool:
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Post by: Wayne on 15 August 2011, 21:13
came with my turbo

i like it, many wont

it stays

 :cool:

 :cool: just wondered.
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Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 15 August 2011, 21:19
Does the underside look as mint as the rest of it?
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Post by: richw911 on 15 August 2011, 21:22
That really is amazing  :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 15 August 2011, 21:25
the underside is what you would expect from looking at this car, iv kept everything to as high standard as i can.

the main thing about this car when i originally bought it was no rust what so ever, even tho it looked as rough as hell. guess i was lucky with this shell and iv managed to turn it from Zero to Hero..

it is a OEM + car and iv kept as close to this as i can


Wayne - lads in bodyshop did not want the badge on but i like the period feel it gives.. so it does stay for this season at least   :cool:

rich - many thanks :smiley:

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Post by: dom on 15 August 2011, 21:31
Best Mk3 ever :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 15 August 2011, 21:33
aww thanks man, im not sure it is but comments like this make all the massive amounts of hard work thats been put in worthwhile

people really dont understand how much effort i put into this - and its driven every single day - rain, snow or shine
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Post by: Seanl on 15 August 2011, 21:36
Have you made any vids of it running apart from the one without the exhaust on. Really wanna hear what it sounds like after reading back through about the last 30 pages!
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Post by: Bellend on 15 August 2011, 21:39
GOODNESS ME!

WOW!  :cool:

That's insane. I know I keep saying it but this really does need a front page on a mag.  :cool:

GET IT IN THE CALENDER!
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Post by: F17BAD on 15 August 2011, 21:43
i have no videos yet its not loud, i did not want a stupid exhaust as i wanted to get that turbo experience, i have no Cat, and its a 3" downpipe bolted right on to the Jetex, sounds so good when you floor it (you need to be in the car to know what i mean  :evil:)

Josho - cheers man - your trims are doing their thing  :wink: :cool:
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Post by: Bellend on 15 August 2011, 21:56
So basically, this is all due to my hard work then and all praise is mine?  :evil:
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Post by: F17BAD on 15 August 2011, 22:01
im not gonna lie u dug me out a hole i was running out of time and all of a suddern the world dried up of GTI arch trims  :grin:
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Post by: Bellend on 15 August 2011, 22:02
Happy to help man.  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 15 August 2011, 22:03
massive thanks mate  :wink:
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Post by: tigerj360 on 15 August 2011, 22:36
Awesome mate im literaly green with envy right now!  :cool:
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Post by: scottv6 on 16 August 2011, 09:23
looks ace mate, well done  :cool:
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Post by: robz on 16 August 2011, 14:14
stunning!!!
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 August 2011, 11:28
Cheers for the replies  :smiley:

Next up is a Custom Remap
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Post by: tdi_blu on 18 August 2011, 12:21
Love the pictures Brad car looks stunning as always lovely motor  :wink:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 18 August 2011, 14:58
That looks awesome!!
Super Phunky Phresh!
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Post by: Jimp on 18 August 2011, 15:09
Now that's a stunning shade of black  :cool: It's so black it's absorbing the light around it  :grin:
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Post by: murraymint on 18 August 2011, 18:29
everytime i look at your car it seems to get better, this is major inspreation for wen i start doin my conversion

top work :afro:
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Post by: Junior74 on 18 August 2011, 21:14
In the words of my 8 year old nephew "that car is sick..."
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Post by: dcln on 18 August 2011, 21:27
brilliant read, definitely something to aspire to
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 18 August 2011, 23:25
Fanastic mate! Looks amazing!

Amazing what u can miss in a fortnight away! 

Are u going to action in sept?
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Post by: Neo Badness on 18 August 2011, 23:35
Putting the MK3 haters in their place.

That looks mint, I appreciate the effort that's gone into that :cool:

Sure the remap will only enhance the experience...
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 August 2011, 10:45
Cheers for the replies guys :-)

Regarding VW Action, as much as I'd like to be their I wont be, it's the same weekend as ED38 and I had planned to go their but even thats looking like it won't happen :-(
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 19 August 2011, 11:30
Cheers for the replies guys :-)

Regarding VW Action, as much as I'd like to be their I wont be, it's the same weekend as ED38 and I had planned to go their but even thats looking like it won't happen :-(

Do both :) come action fri,sat and go edition on the Sunday! :) if you plans change, was hoping to see ur car in the flesh, well metal :)
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 August 2011, 12:01
ill have to see how it goes, i do want to show as many people the car as i can TBH.. put lots of effort into it  :smiley:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 19 August 2011, 13:24
I'm hitting ED38, so you better be there young man!!!!
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Post by: Steve_PD on 19 August 2011, 17:34
If you plan to show it at E38 you got to be queuing for the show field at 6am sharp or you anit getting in
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 August 2011, 21:44
I made that mistake at VW FEST.

Not sure i can make it, ill see what i can do.. Wanted to camp
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Post by: jonnypolish on 19 August 2011, 23:29
im not taking no for an answer! :D
I might have a mk2 vr by ED38 too  :cool:
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Post by: Wazzzer on 20 August 2011, 13:22
Just read through the whole lot of this and hats off to you for doing all the mechanical work yourselves. Looks like the engine should always have been in there, top job :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 21 August 2011, 18:12
Cheers mate,  thanks for reading  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 August 2011, 18:42
Started adding my personal touch to the bodywork and cracked out my Dodo juice spin doctor rotary..  didnt want to go to town on it till it had hardened

anyhow, done the bonnet today and here is what we have

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3546/imagedbd.jpg)

(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/5071/imageamn.jpg)

(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6628/imageayi.jpg)

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Post by: dazzawest1987 on 22 August 2011, 19:01
You sure that first pics, not just a pic of the sky  :grin:
 Look awesome mate real credit to the time and hard work you put in
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Post by: Wayne on 22 August 2011, 19:02
Holy cow, that is an awesome shine / depth.
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Post by: dom on 22 August 2011, 19:07
I looked at the pics before reading the text and genuinely thought you'd taken a picture of the sky :grin:

Looks amazing :cool:
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Post by: Seanl on 22 August 2011, 19:40
Ha ha, I thought it was the sky too! I thought you put it there as a contrast between real sky, and shine! immense!
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Post by: brett on 22 August 2011, 19:48
snap so did ,hats off to you for all the hard work and your mate on a wicked paint job  :cool:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 22 August 2011, 20:03
Wowzers, that looks incredible mate.
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Post by: tshirt2k on 22 August 2011, 20:07
Are you ever gonna stop cleaning and polishing?  :grin: I think it's clean enough. :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 August 2011, 20:41
haha OCD mentalism at its best...

it looks just like the sky that first pic - but it is the actual bonnet - it looks amazing, hard as nails to keep it clean as every spec of dust now shows with the paint been so flat like a mirror :laugh:
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Post by: Rhyso on 22 August 2011, 21:56
Like :afro:  you scene killer you  :kiss: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 August 2011, 21:58
Like :afro:  you scene killer you  :kiss: :grin: :grin:

Im killing it mate haha, was just about to post on your thread too hahahaha...

Lunacy - just because people take lots of pride and enthusiasm over their car !!!!
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Post by: Rhyso on 22 August 2011, 22:08
Like :afro:  you scene killer you  :kiss: :grin: :grin:

Im killing it mate haha, was just about to post on your thread too hahahaha...

Lunacy - just because people take lots of pride and enthusiasm over their car !!!!


Yeah sorry for doing stuff to my car and posting about it on the internet  :laugh: :laugh:  Also sorry for meeting up with fellow internet geeks to talk about cars and swap ideas
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 August 2011, 22:09
 :grin: :grin: :grin:

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Post by: tech1889 on 22 August 2011, 22:09
F17BAD where you get your Gucci engine from ??
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Post by: Rhyso on 22 August 2011, 22:12
F17BAD where you get your Gucci engine from ??

Aldi
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 August 2011, 22:13
F17BAD where you get your Gucci engine from ??

Aldi

Fooking Brill reply!!   :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: Steve_PD on 22 August 2011, 22:35
F17BAD where you get your Gucci engine from ??

Aldi

Wrong :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 August 2011, 22:48
 :grin: :grin: :grin:hahahaha,

Technically he isnt wrong, i robbed it from a LCR, but Seat got it from aldi factory

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Post by: Bellend on 22 August 2011, 22:50
 :shocked: :drool:

I'm bringing mine up tomorrow.  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 August 2011, 22:53
cheers guys  :smiley:
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Post by: Jay on 22 August 2011, 23:00
Nice, everybody's gotta like a mirror finish. Well done on it all :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 August 2011, 08:58
Cheers Jay :smiley:
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Post by: ace on 23 August 2011, 09:30
Kells, u have absolutely smashed it with your mk3....easily one of the best out there  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 August 2011, 11:41
cheers dude, really appreciate that comment  :cool:
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Post by: scottv6 on 25 August 2011, 22:08
looks nicer evry time i look mate  :smiley:

have you thought about a s3/lcr dash conversion to match the engine? think it would finish it of nicley.
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 August 2011, 22:52
looks nicer evry time i look mate  :smiley:

have you thought about a s3/lcr dash conversion to match the engine? think it would finish it of nicley.

cheers man

yea i have givden it some thouht, im on the fence as it goes away from OEM look quite alot, but its still something to consider  :smiley:
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Post by: scottv6 on 26 August 2011, 07:57
Yea it does abit,think it would look cool tho. :)
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Post by: Misky on 26 August 2011, 11:35
Stick to the mk3 dash!  :cool:
The only thing im not a fan of is the gauge in the blower vent.
I personally would have had 3 gauges (boost,oil/water temp) where the heater controls are and moved the controls to the glove box.  :smiley:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 26 August 2011, 11:50
I spotted a dial housing plate for the centre console on the German eBay a few days ago, looked pretty good and OEM.
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Post by: tshirt2k on 27 August 2011, 06:42
Dyno printout?
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Post by: Adam on 27 August 2011, 12:49
Dyno printout?

Come on Kells!
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Post by: Rhyso on 27 August 2011, 13:23
I know  :smug:
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 August 2011, 14:18
I dont have a print out yet as it's not finished yet. Took us half the day to get the thing on he rollers haha

Got a base map on it and it's around te 245 mark with over 280 torque and it's a fooking animal haha

Nick wants to work more on the map, think he said thr timing and the knock sensor, I also need to ask him if it's a issue me having my map sensor on the warm side of the charge, we had some big heat soak issues but not from my intercooler as that kept cold.

Deffo don't want to raise the torque because it is a hand full now

Mad car i love it, will get graphs up once we have finished it all
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Post by: scottv6 on 27 August 2011, 14:30
what rollers do you go on mate, how much do they charge per session? i could do with finding out what mines running.
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Post by: dom on 27 August 2011, 14:56
Good result so far then! Looking forward to seeing what Nick manages to squeeze out of it! Wise choice with the torque, mines only running 240ish and can be a handful at times :grin:

what rollers do you go on mate, how much do they charge per session? i could do with finding out what mines running.

Get yourself down to the RR day in October at Carbon Chiptuning, check the events section for more info :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 August 2011, 15:36
Nick said he would like 260 ish but tbh tier results are real results and not the bullsh!t ones u hear of from other people.

So it's nice to know whatever the  end results are, they will be genuine real life results.

Top guys, treated my car like a baby and also bought me my tea (KFC)


P.s the rollers are dyno dynamics
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 27 August 2011, 15:39
True customer service like that is a dying breed these days unfortunately.
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 August 2011, 16:07
True customer service like that is a dying breed these days unfortunately.


So true, carbon is up with the best tho and I'm a picky bar stuward too haha, excellent company and skills ;-)
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Post by: Adam on 27 August 2011, 16:12
True customer service like that is a dying breed these days unfortunately.


So true, carbon is up with the best tho and I'm a picky bar stuward too haha, excellent company and skills ;-)


I was there the day before you. I think. Brilliant place eh!
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 August 2011, 16:41
True customer service like that is a dying breed these days unfortunately.


So true, carbon is up with the best tho and I'm a picky bar stuward too haha, excellent company and skills ;-)


I was there the day before you. I think. Brilliant place eh!

yea saw your results on the screen, i like how they are hard on themselves with the way tey run the rolling road.. genuine guys in it for the right reasons
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Post by: The Doc on 27 August 2011, 20:45
what rollers do you go on mate, how much do they charge per session? i could do with finding out what mines running.

For £55 (or £25 and some KFC  :wink:) we will dyno your car and do as many power runs as you like.

Or as Dom said come to our rolling road day: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=192905.230

I'm very pleased your all very pleased with us, what we do and how we do it  :wink:
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Post by: Wayne on 27 August 2011, 20:52
Excellent results :afro:
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Post by: scottv6 on 27 August 2011, 22:21
Where are you based mate?
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 August 2011, 11:55
Where are you based mate?

your in wakie ? welll i am a few miles away from you, and carbon is only 48 miles away from me. they are over in manchester  :wink:

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Post by: scottv6 on 28 August 2011, 12:15
yea i am mate, ok cool, a few of my mates are wanting remaps so al have a word with them if i go down see if they want them done there.
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 August 2011, 12:27
i would mate, deffo best plac ei know off hence why i took my car their.. im a fussy tw4t  :laugh:

I like it that they way they do their runs, it means your results will be lower than any other roller but you know you have genuine results and not something just to show you what u want to see like many other tuners do  :lipsrsealed:

Yours is Cupra R ?  if so its same engine as mine and believe me mine is absolutly brutal at the moment, where in wakefield are you ??
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Post by: scottv6 on 28 August 2011, 12:47
yea mines a cupra r and i think it has been mapped because it boosts to 20psi, but theres no proof its been done or anything thats why i want to find out.

im in wrenthorpe mate, pritty much just of jct41 on m1
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 August 2011, 16:15
yea sounds like its been mapped, what does it hold boost at ?  mine in standard form held at around 11psi but boosted to 15, spiked to 18!!  so i need a new solenoid valve

it now boosts to over 20psi, around 25 actually

i wouldnt mind going out in yours to see what its like compaired to mine
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Post by: scottv6 on 28 August 2011, 16:21
well it boosts up to 20psi then drops to around 18psi i think,  if im honist i think its got a sh1t map on it,

yea if theres a meet on soon or were both free 1 weekend i could meet you somewhere?
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 August 2011, 16:37
yeah deffo mate sounds like a plan, their is a meet this wednesday night (short notice i know) up on Owl lane Dewsbury, accross from Dewsbury Rams rugby club. its a pub and has a decent little turn out of vag stuff, campervans too..  its on last wednesday of the month though with the last one of the year in October i think..

you should come along to one, seen a cupra r their before a black one
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Post by: scottv6 on 28 August 2011, 16:56
dont think al be able to make this one, but will try for the next or on a weekend would realy be better for me. al see what i can do.
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Post by: scottv6 on 28 August 2011, 17:00
infact, is the carbon chip tuning rrday on 1st oct? are you going down because i might go if its not to expensive, skint times  :cry:
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 August 2011, 17:02
infact, is the carbon chip tuning rrday on 1st oct? are you going down because i might go if its not to expensive, skint times  :cry:

yea its on saturday 1st October. ill be their  :cool:
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Post by: scottv6 on 28 August 2011, 17:10
ok, i might have a trip over, if i can get some money together.
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Post by: The Doc on 28 August 2011, 17:37
ok, i might have a trip over, if i can get some money together.

it's £20 for the rollers on that day  :smiley:
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Post by: dom on 28 August 2011, 17:41
ok, i might have a trip over, if i can get some money together.

it's £20 for the rollers on that day  :smiley:

Beat me to it! That's a bargain in anyone's eyes, if your interested hit me up with a PM and I'll give you all the details you need :wink:
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Post by: dom on 28 August 2011, 17:50
infact, is the carbon chip tuning rrday on 1st oct? are you going down because i might go if its not to expensive, skint times  :cry:

yea its on saturday 1st October. ill be their  :cool:

You & Ben going to be there for the full day or just some of it? :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 August 2011, 18:55
most the day mate i should think  :smiley:

had massive issues getting my car on to the rollers but we know how to do it now  :grin:
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Post by: benvictors on 28 August 2011, 19:20
Just had a go in this...
BRUTAL!!!!
We've created a monster that the lads at Carbon have just made angry ha ha ha ha ha
It just wants to proper GO in every gear  :laugh: :laugh:
Absolutly love it  :kiss: :drool: :smug: :evil:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 28 August 2011, 19:37
Turbo. FTW  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 August 2011, 19:40
Car is pure evil.. :evil: loving it.
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Post by: Neo Badness on 28 August 2011, 21:18
Any videos so we can live vicariously through your hard work?
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 August 2011, 22:56
will have to get some videos  :laugh:

(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7166/imagexgj.jpg)

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9725/imagegpwz.jpg)

(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6088/imagefgc.jpg)
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Post by: shepgti on 01 September 2011, 12:55
photographing a car dutch style(on the wonk) doesnt make it more intresting  :grin: :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 September 2011, 13:11
Eh ?  :undecided:

didnt realise they were
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Post by: jonnypolish on 01 September 2011, 15:27
Jeeeesus!
that must be the cleanest car i've seen!
Awesome!!!
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 September 2011, 17:03
thanks mate.. car was very well received at a local meet last night.. nice to see people appreciate the work thats gone into it.. even from people who usually dont like MK3's  :smiley:
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Post by: dom on 01 September 2011, 20:43
thanks mate.. car was very well received at a local meet last night.. nice to see people appreciate the work thats gone into it.. even from people who usually dont like MK3's  :smiley:

Was there a black Mk2 Polo at the meet last night? Pretty low and on some wide wheels?
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 September 2011, 20:53
their was i think yeah, small wheels black centres with a bare aluminium edge ?? 

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Post by: dom on 01 September 2011, 20:54
their was i think yeah, small wheels black centres with a bare aluminium edge ?? 



Yeah, followed it away from Dewsbury yesterday, looked like it was in convoy with another mk2 polo & possibly an old Saab 9-5 turbo.
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 September 2011, 21:01
their was i think yeah, small wheels black centres with a bare aluminium edge ?? 



Yeah, followed it away from Dewsbury yesterday, looked like it was in convoy with another mk2 polo & possibly an old Saab 9-5 turbo.

all 3 of those cars were their  :laugh:
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Post by: dom on 01 September 2011, 22:04
their was i think yeah, small wheels black centres with a bare aluminium edge ?? 



Yeah, followed it away from Dewsbury yesterday, looked like it was in convoy with another mk2 polo & possibly an old Saab 9-5 turbo.

all 3 of those cars were their  :laugh:

Thought that's where they must have been heading! Was going to follow but my car isn't looking it's prettiest :grin:
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Post by: CCGTI on 01 September 2011, 22:07
Dom there is some right sh!t that goes, im sure yours would have looked good even with the damage
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 September 2011, 22:11
the black mk4 took the crown for worse car - it was terrible  :sick:
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Post by: CCGTI on 01 September 2011, 22:18
with the chrome trim, could be made nice if it lost alot of the crap
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Post by: benvictors on 01 September 2011, 22:33
I liked the massive plastic air intake on the bonnet, looked awesome..
Reckon we should put one on yours Brad...................
NOT  :sick: :sick: :sick:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 September 2011, 22:38
Hope to get that Map tube tomo or saturday - what you up to ?  need to sort it out and a blank plate.. your a cheif engineer...  and general grub screw master :grin:
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Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 01 September 2011, 22:39
What happened to the other thread Brad? i was really enjoying that.
Has chuff struck again?  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 September 2011, 22:43
What happened to the other thread Brad? i was really enjoying that.
Has chuff struck again?  :grin:

i dunno mate  :grin: somebody spat the dummy out and it wasnt R32 so god knows.. it was funny and a interesting read all in 1  :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: CCGTI on 02 September 2011, 07:55
I liked the massive plastic air intake on the bonnet, looked awesome..
Reckon we should put one on yours Brad...................
NOT  :sick: :sick: :sick:

LOL
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 September 2011, 12:47
Well we were back over at Carbon to see the guys yesterday and get the custom mapping sorted

Car didn't want to play ball tho. we spent the whole day yet again trying to get the car on the rollers.. we tried the blocks of wood in the coils again (which worked on the last visit) but for some reason this time it did not work and as soon as Nick wound the car up it was slipping off the rollers

we tried absolutely all sorts but nothing worked, so Ben is now going to make some spacers up out of nylon that will slot between my coils to raise the car up enough to get on the rollers but also at a even height so the car can grip onto the rollers

So no custom mapping has taken place as of yet


Gonna take this opportunity to once again give a HUGE thanks to Nick and Craig. Absolutely top guys

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/605/imagexgr.jpg)

(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/8969/imagedhfv.jpg)
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Post by: Mikester on 24 September 2011, 13:39
Shoot me down if i'm missing something as i havn't read even 5% of this massive thread... but couldn't you raise the coilovers for the day of the rollers by a few mm?

Even if it meant you had to get the alignment done again surely this is going to soon be cheaper than days wasted trying to get on the rollers? lol.
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 September 2011, 15:03
yeah they asked if i wanted to, and my mate Russ (Tshirt2K on here) also badgered me to but thats not a option for me..

i like spending time with the guys at carbon so its all good  :cool:
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Post by: Adam on 24 September 2011, 16:25
Well that sucks. Mine only just fitted on there.

The guys up there are spot on.
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 24 September 2011, 18:06
yeah they asked if i wanted to, and my mate Russ (Tshirt2K on here) also badgered me to but thats not a option for me..

i like spending time with the guys at carbon so its all good  :cool:

Why is it not an option?  :undecided:
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 September 2011, 18:12
because iv spent many hours getting the ride height so I'm happy... and also had my geometry done

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Post by: scottv6 on 24 September 2011, 20:39
how low is the front of your car from the floor, my splitter on the leon scrapes on everything and it isnt even lowered hope i can get on the rollers  :shocked: also my bros car is loww aswel,altho hes got some bungs that he can stick between the coils if it wont go on. :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 September 2011, 21:55
about a inch mate, but the bumper is not the issue, its my subframe and sump
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Post by: dom on 24 September 2011, 21:58
how low is the front of your car from the floor, my splitter on the leon scrapes on everything and it isnt even lowered hope i can get on the rollers  :shocked: also my bros car is loww aswel,altho hes got some bungs that he can stick between the coils if it wont go on. :smiley:

As brad says its your sump which is likely to be an issue, if its standard height then you should be ok!
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Post by: scottv6 on 24 September 2011, 22:02
its my brother that would struggle more than me but we will get it on if it wont ha.
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 September 2011, 23:28
not sure if mine will make it on, hopefully ben will get my nylon spacers made up, would like to get down on the friday for the custom map work..will have to see
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Post by: The Doc on 25 September 2011, 19:38
not sure if mine will make it on, hopefully ben will get my nylon spacers made up, would like to get down on the friday for the custom map work..will have to see

You better had  :grin:

Has he made them yet? - that Bad Beasty of yours was misbehaving something rotten the other day  :sad:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 September 2011, 19:41
he has made some today, they seemed to work.. :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 25 September 2011, 21:15
because iv spent many hours getting the ride height so I'm happy... and also had my geometry done



Thought you'd just be able to mark where its at on the coils, raise it then return it back to your markings when done and not touching anything else to ensure your geometry remained intact.

If the nylon spacers don't get you on rollers, would you be able to get away with a sh*t set of wheels with bigger tyres just to get you  on?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 September 2011, 21:19
im not sure mate, i hope the nylon spacers work..really really dont want to have to riase the coilovers tho, will have to see
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 25 September 2011, 21:27
im not sure mate, i hope the nylon spacers work..really really dont want to have to riase the coilovers tho, will have to see

I know what you mean because even if you weren't fussed about the setup its still a long winded pain in the ass raising it to then have to drop it again, especially for such a short time, hence why I thought big steelies or something, whack em on, whack em off.

Air ride FTW then???  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 September 2011, 21:34
Air ride would be perfect lol

other news, almost lost my license on the motorway today. this car is gonna get me in the sh!t... 
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 25 September 2011, 21:44
Air ride would be perfect lol

Would you ever consider it one day?

other news, almost lost my license on the motorway today. this car is gonna get me in the sh!t... 

It's easily done!....... I was .6 of a MPH from having mine taken from me once!

what happened to you?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 September 2011, 21:56
was out doing some testing in the car, on a stretch of dual carriageway which has no junctions on it making it a ideal test strip, a lot of people use it to to race on tho too hence its name "the mad mile"..  little did i know was their was a police behind me..

he only caught me because i stopped at a shop a couple of miles later. he told me he didn't even have the chance to read my Reg plate and if id not have stopped at the shop he would never have found me or been able to trace me 

lesson learnt was lucky to get away with a warning... the car impressed him tho, he said he was doing 120+ and i left him for dust  :laugh: :lipsrsealed:

got a slight telling off and had to apologise.. i know how fast i was doing so couldn't argue.. won't be doing that again
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Steve_PD on 25 September 2011, 22:12
Air ride gives similar rider and handling to coilovers but the practicality of stock height.

Lucky to be let off with a warning
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 September 2011, 22:14
more than lucky... a lesson learnt.. i saw what speed was reading on the clocks...  :shocked: :lipsrsealed:

He said i should have been instant banned...  and i agree
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Post by: barrym381 on 25 September 2011, 22:18
more than lucky... a lesson learnt.. i saw what speed was reading on the clocks...  :shocked: :lipsrsealed:

He said i should have been instant banned...  and i agree
ad guess 140 :grin: :grin: but what was the copper driving
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 25 September 2011, 22:20
I reckon he would have had you if he could.. When I got pulled they went through all the technicalities of how they can do you, if there is no speed trap or camera they match your speed over a given distance (how I got my ticket), tiny bit more over that distance I would have lost my license!

I bet they couldn't do any of the above at the time hence the warning...

either way, count yourself lucky as well as a lesson learned.
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Post by: mcgee9t2 on 25 September 2011, 22:21
lucky man, and also a very nice car  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 September 2011, 22:26
cheers mate

and yeah basically myself and Mr plod both knew he couldn't do jack sh!t.. i tried the "i was doing 90mph" card be he just laugh and said add at least 50mph to that!!!!

he did a check on me and on the car and even made checks to make sure the engine transplant was declared  (which it is on the insurance and with DVLA)  if not he said he had the power to take the car ?

anyhow all was good, lesson learnt and won't be making a repeat of it..
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Diamond Hell on 25 September 2011, 23:02
Oh dear, someone not man enough to take it on the track and who has to go being a boy-racer on the road.  :rolleyes:

How terribly, terribly juvenile.

And then boasting about it on a public forum?  Really?

Grow some balls and do some motorsport if you want to go fast and actually prove you're worth a damn instead of willy-waving on public roads like a 17 year old.

Really, really pathos invoking and probably not even true.

Very sad - true story.  :sad:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 September 2011, 23:25
I'd rather be terribly juvenile than terribly ugly

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: The Doc on 25 September 2011, 23:26
You tested those spacers yet mate  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 September 2011, 23:28
The spacers seem to be all good raises high just need to try them on the RR matey
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: The Doc on 26 September 2011, 00:39
The spacers seem to be all good raises high just need to try them on the RR matey

Cool, get her over and swap for the GTD  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 September 2011, 09:10
 :grin:
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Post by: CCGTI on 26 September 2011, 09:23
Easily done on the mad mile mate, nice long stretch of road, ripped it up many a times
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Post by: scottv6 on 26 September 2011, 13:12

I never boot it on the mad mile too many coppers sat on there. I can't believe iv never seen you about the mad miles only 5 mins from my house.
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Post by: The Doc on 26 September 2011, 13:38

I never boot it on the mad mile too many coppers sat on there. I can't believe iv never seen you about the mad miles only 5 mins from my house.

You'll hear him before you see him  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 26 September 2011, 13:48
im not having a great time at home right now :sad: and seen as the car helps put a smile on my face,  this is one of the reasons i took it out on the go pedal LOL
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 26 September 2011, 14:22
im not having a great time at home right now :sad: and seen as the car helps put a smile on my face,  this is one of the reasons i took it out on the go pedal LOL

Oh dear whats up?
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 September 2011, 14:25
Nothing I'd like to discuss on here. Too many haters..cheers for asking tho
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Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 26 September 2011, 14:31

I never boot it on the mad mile too many coppers sat on there. I can't believe iv never seen you about the mad miles only 5 mins from my house.

You'll hear him before you see him  :grin:

A copper actually said that to a friend on mine about 12 years ago  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 26 September 2011, 23:59
Quite interesting if you do a DVLA vehicle check.

This one comes up as the 1.8 engine, many others on here still say 2l.  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 27 September 2011, 00:10
Quite interesting if you do a DVLA vehicle check.

This one comes up as the 1.8 engine, many others on here still say 2l.  :lipsrsealed:

Too much spare time on you hands?... Are you a curtain twitcher?  :grin:

Hmmmm, I wonder which ones!?... Damn it, I'm as bad as you now!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 27 September 2011, 00:39
Quite interesting if you do a DVLA vehicle check.

This one comes up as the 1.8 engine, many others on here still say 2l.  :lipsrsealed:

Too much spare time on you hands?... Are you a curtain twitcher?  :grin:

Hmmmm, I wonder which ones!?... Damn it, I'm as bad as you now!

Did it in my tea break. Not to be a sneaky b!tch just genuinely interested to see if the DVLA change it that's all. :)
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 27 September 2011, 00:44
Quite interesting if you do a DVLA vehicle check.

This one comes up as the 1.8 engine, many others on here still say 2l.  :lipsrsealed:

Too much spare time on you hands?... Are you a curtain twitcher?  :grin:

Hmmmm, I wonder which ones!?... Damn it, I'm as bad as you now!

Did it in my tea break. Not to be a sneaky b!tch just genuinely interested to see if the DVLA change it that's all. :)

Oh so not to see which ones had not been declared.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: tech1889 on 27 September 2011, 01:27
mine doesnt have an engine shall i declare as a 0 litre ?
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 27 September 2011, 01:29
mine doesnt have an engine shall i declare as a 0 litre ?

You should be OK so long as you don't drive it on the road or lie to your insurer by telling them its a 5L V8 when it's not.
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Post by: tech1889 on 27 September 2011, 01:32
mine doesnt have an engine shall i declare as a 0 litre ?

You should be OK so long as you don't drive it on the road or lie to your insurer by telling them its a 5L V8 when it's not.

oh thank god i was getting worried  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 27 September 2011, 09:42
Quite interesting if you do a DVLA vehicle check.

This one comes up as the 1.8 engine, many others on here still say 2l.  :lipsrsealed:

Too much spare time on you hands?... Are you a curtain twitcher?  :grin:

Hmmmm, I wonder which ones!?... Damn it, I'm as bad as you now!

Did it in my tea break. Not to be a sneaky b!tch just genuinely interested to see if the DVLA change it that's all. :)

Oh so not to see which ones had not been declared.  :rolleyes:

Not at first. :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 27 September 2011, 11:17
Yep mine is all done by the book and it's a good job it is too as mr policeman checked

I had to send dvla proof, they asked who had fitted it, and seen as it was myself I had to then get a garage to report it was a 1.8 petrol and then send the DVLA the original copy which they kindly returned. Took a couple of weeks to do but I just wanted everything legit.
DVLA even have my engine number on the V5 now too

Thank the lord I never fitted one of the many (but cheap) stolen engines I was offered.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 27 September 2011, 11:37
Yep mine is all done by the book and it's a good job it is too as mr policeman checked

I had to send dvla proof, they asked who had fitted it, and seen as it was myself I had to then get a garage to report it was a 1.8 petrol and then send the DVLA the original copy which they kindly returned. Took a couple of weeks to do but I just wanted everything legit.
DVLA even have my engine number on the V5 now too

Thank the lord I never fitted one of the many (but cheap) stolen engines I was offered.

Why thank the Lord? Surly it would never have crossed your mind.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 27 September 2011, 15:21
Na not in this car everything had to be legitiment
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 27 September 2011, 15:22
Na not in this car everything had to be legitiment

What you haven't always been legit then?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 27 September 2011, 15:26
My cars have always been legitiment
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 27 September 2011, 15:31
My cars have always been legitiment

 :grin:  Good, it's just the way things come across sometimes... like being thankful for not fitting a stolen engine or THIS car having everything legitimate.
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 September 2011, 15:36
yeah know what you mean lol, i said it like that because the thread is about THIS car.. as you say its quite easy to read things wrong  :smiley:

i do know alot of dodgey folk who deal in very dodgey things :lipsrsealed: .. but nothing on my car(s) is that  :wink: :angry:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 October 2011, 17:23
Everyone likes pictures, took a few earlier for the calendar, these were a few i didn't use but liked

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1844/img1918f.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/233/img1918f.jpg/)

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9385/img1935pm.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/8/img1935pm.jpg/)

(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9726/img1925e.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/img1925e.jpg/)

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/9498/img1936jo.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/img1936jo.jpg/)

(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/7481/img1937af.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/img1937af.jpg/)

(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/285/img1938p.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/img1938p.jpg/)

(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9106/img1943d.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/525/img1943d.jpg/)


Decided on this picture for the calendar

(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8494/callenderfullsize.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/callenderfullsize.jpg/)

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Post by: Sam on 02 October 2011, 17:33
Kells, stop been a fanny and post your RR results from the weekend!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 October 2011, 17:35
i didn't get them mate.. didn't even get a print out.. 

was no point as it was slipping at the top end best they could achieve with the slipping was 242 BHP.. thats all iv got

will post up results of the custom map once done, this will include the graphs.. till then, this is all  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 02 October 2011, 17:38
i didn't get them mate.. didn't even get a print out.. 

was no point as it was slipping at the top end best they could achieve with the slipping was 242 BHP.. thats all iv got

will post up results of the custom map once done, this will include the graphs.. till then, this is all  :smiley:

What was slipping? Clutch?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 02 October 2011, 17:41
i didn't get them mate.. didn't even get a print out.. 

was no point as it was slipping at the top end best they could achieve with the slipping was 242 BHP.. thats all iv got

will post up results of the custom map once done, this will include the graphs.. till then, this is all  :smiley:

What was slipping? Clutch?


It kept jumping off the rollers  :sad:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 October 2011, 17:44
As Rhys says, jumping off the rollers on the top end soon as the power is full down. they managed to get it strapped down to get the 242 bhp reading but it was still jumping so the result is useless really..

the plan is to leave the car with nick and craig (yes i trust these guys with my life)  and let them do their thing, because iv been their 3 times now and every time its jumped or slipped.. we have tried all sorts but they now have more ideas so its all good
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VW BUSH on 02 October 2011, 17:54
Thats an awsome read out even if it does jump, what does the 0-60 come up in ?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 October 2011, 17:59
im not sure mate but it is very very quick.. motorway driving is just insane too!!
 :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 02 October 2011, 18:12
Could the car not be jacked via the rear beam when on the rollers, then some blocks placed under the end of the ramps and the car lowered back down. It would raise the rear of the car a little and surely that would help the front stay down a little :undecided:

Like so:

(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/Untitled-6.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 October 2011, 18:24
already tried that one dom

(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/634/imagevww.jpg)

(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6359/imageqln.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 02 October 2011, 18:25
Suspend it from the ceiling  :undecided: :laugh:

Proper ball ache  :sad:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 October 2011, 18:31
 :grin: yeah it is a pain. id like a true reading of a before /after custom mapping..and all the graphs that go with it..

it will come. i have faith in Nick and Craig :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 02 October 2011, 18:34
:grin: yeah it is a pain. id like a true reading of a before /after custom mapping..and all the graphs that go with it..

it will come. i have faith in Nick and Craig :smiley:

:afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Steve_PD on 02 October 2011, 18:37
solution = 2 words



















air ride :evil: :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 October 2011, 18:46
i keep hearing those 2 words  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Steve_PD on 02 October 2011, 20:00
you know you want to :wink: best of both worlds, practicality and super lows :cool: :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 02 October 2011, 20:01
i keep hearing those 2 words  :laugh:

AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE, AIR RIDE,
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 October 2011, 20:23
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

ill have to see... i want bigger turbos and all sorts.. its never ending.. all from a £600 runner that i was "not gonna modify"

 :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: The Doc on 02 October 2011, 22:48
I even tried Helping it with my bestest light sabre  :shocked:

(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/634/imagevww.jpg)

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: The Doc on 02 October 2011, 22:51
(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/Untitled-6.jpg)

Dom's TANK of DOOM crushes Marso's dyno..... :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 03 October 2011, 10:44
Does make me wonder how well this car would handle if driven on a challenging B road?.....

Do you not have rubbing issues when cornering hard?

Looks bloomin close here and it's not even moving.

(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/233/img1918f.jpg/)

Shame you're having so much trouble with rollers, steelies with big tyres FTW.  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 October 2011, 11:16
On the road it's superb even at high speed cornering. Very stiff suspension which is probably not helping matters on the rolling road
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 03 October 2011, 11:24
On the road it's superb even at high speed cornering. Very stiff suspension which is probably not helping matters on the rolling road

That explains a lot. You're right, it won't be helping at all.. Hence why I keep thinking my steelie/tyre suggestion might be good just for RR sessions?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 October 2011, 11:29
I think I'll just be leaving the car with them to mess about with. They treat the car well so I know it will be in safe hands
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Neo Badness on 03 October 2011, 17:00
I do like this car a lot. This maybe stupid thing to suggest as I never do rolling roads, but would a hub mounted dyno not eliminate the problems you are having?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 03 October 2011, 17:40
http://www.john-sleath.com/rolling%20road%20page.htm

Why dont you just use john sleath, no F**king about they will just get it on, are highly recommended and run cars all the time with massive BHP
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 October 2011, 18:39
http://www.john-sleath.com/rolling%20road%20page.htm

Why dont you just use john sleath, no F**king about they will just get it on, are highly recommended and run cars all the time with massive BHP

na mate Carbon only for me and my car, best guys around IMO. Its same rolling road anyhow (Dyno dynamics) so they would have same issues
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 October 2011, 18:41
http://www.john-sleath.com/rolling%20road%20page.htm

Why dont you just use john sleath, no F**king about they will just get it on, are highly recommended and run cars all the time with massive BHP

na mate Carbon only for me and my car, best guys around IMO. Its same rolling road anyhow (Dyno dynamics) so they would have same issues

I think the fact the car is on a flat level platform means more of the engine weight will be on the dyno; ergo more traction
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 03 October 2011, 18:46
Brad these guys are highly recommended for high power cars, have a good history andwould be able to sort your car out no messing and no messing trying to jack your car up, really think you need to take somewhere with a flat rolling road

Plus they did all the work on the 1000BHP hot rod that was at the meet last week
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Neo Badness on 03 October 2011, 18:48
http://www.john-sleath.com/rolling%20road%20page.htm

Why dont you just use john sleath, no F**king about they will just get it on, are highly recommended and run cars all the time with massive BHP

That camaro on their website, I want it. Plus his own Audi coupe is on the evil side of 1000bhp!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 03 October 2011, 18:57
seen that audi in action and its cool
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 03 October 2011, 19:34
Brad these guys are highly recommended for high power cars, have a good history andwould be able to sort your car out no messing and no messing trying to jack your car up, really think you need to take somewhere with a flat rolling road

Plus they did all the work on the 1000BHP hot rod that was at the meet last week

That was mental :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 03 October 2011, 21:01
Just get a fat GF.

They try harder.  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 03 October 2011, 21:33
Just get a fat GF.

They try harder.  :cool:

Have no idea what this comment is to mean

I just think with a set up like yours mate you would be better just taking it some where who can supply you with what you need rather than dring to manchester all the time for it proping up on some 2x4 wood

Not saying the Carbon-chip dont know what there doing but they dont have the facilities you need
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 October 2011, 21:34
We almost had the ramps level at Docs o my second visit their.. made no difference.. :undecided:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Chris. on 03 October 2011, 21:39
What power this make the other day?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 03 October 2011, 21:43
thats why im saying use john, they will have your car sorted in one visit, im sure running a 240bhp on there 2400bhp rolling road aint going to be a problem
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 October 2011, 21:47
What power this make the other day?


didn't get a proper figure mate because it was slipping on the rollers and trying to jump off at the top end of the rev range, at this point it was indicating 242 BHP.. I'm guessing its a bit more than this at present

however...

its going back for custom mapping their soon so will rise anyhow

the guys in doncaster are not into this type of car, my trust and loyalties lie with Nick and craig, they will sort the issue with the rollers and also sort a fantastic fully custom map.. nobody else will spend as much time on my car as what these guys can offer and they treat the car just like i do..
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 03 October 2011, 21:49
Brad trust me they do cater for your car
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 03 October 2011, 22:02
All it needs is raising. Then the spring will exert more force to the wheels/rollers.  I'm sure I've mentioned it before  :tongue:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 October 2011, 22:05
Brad trust me they do cater for your car

Once you get the CCT treatment you will find it hard to find or trust anyone else to treat your motor as well as these guys.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 03 October 2011, 22:05
All it needs is raising. Then the spring will exert more force to the wheels/rollers.  I'm sure I've mentioned it before  :tongue:

Yeah we've been through this, it's not an option as he doesn't want to undo what he's happy with.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 October 2011, 22:07
All it needs is raising. Then the spring will exert more force to the wheels/rollers.  I'm sure I've mentioned it before  :tongue:

Sush  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:

will see what they come up with, nick has some ideas.. that is the very last resort

Adam - you know this.. car is not going anyplace but Carbon
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: The Doc on 03 October 2011, 22:10
thats why im saying use john, they will have your car sorted in one visit, im sure running a 240bhp on there 2400bhp rolling road aint going to be a problem

Heard but....

We've had much more power on the rollers than Brads car, the actual issue is that when you put any spring assisters into place the passenger side is riding around 1.5 inches higher than the drivers side which seems to be making the car "jump" on the passenger side as you try to load the car up on the dyno.

We nearly cracked it on the rrday but as Brad has said the car will be left with us, we will get it to run on the dyno then we will custom map her.

Peace out  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 October 2011, 22:10
All it needs is raising. Then the spring will exert more force to the wheels/rollers.  I'm sure I've mentioned it before  :tongue:

Sush  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:

will see what they come up with, nick has some ideas.. that is the very last resort

Adam - you know this.. car is not going anyplace but Carbon

I'm trusting CCT with Audi 250miles away for up to 3 weeks! Not many...sorry no other garage would I trust to do this.

I know the feeling Brad.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: The Doc on 03 October 2011, 22:15
All it needs is raising. Then the spring will exert more force to the wheels/rollers.  I'm sure I've mentioned it before  :tongue:

Sush  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:

will see what they come up with, nick has some ideas.. that is the very last resort

Adam - you know this.. car is not going anyplace but Carbon

I'm trusting CCT with Audi 250miles away for up to 3 weeks! Not many...sorry no other garage would I trust to do this.

I know the feeling Brad.

They need to come and see how we operate to understand us and until they do they just won't get it, as Carbon clients know it's not about rushing it in and out, or the money we make ( or we have stopped a while back ) it's about our commitment to getting it done right be that in a day, week or weeks whist looking after the clients car in a respectful manner  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 03 October 2011, 22:15
All it needs is raising. Then the spring will exert more force to the wheels/rollers.  I'm sure I've mentioned it before  :tongue:

Yeah we've been through this, it's not an option as he doesn't want to undo what he's happy with.

Really?? I must have missed something  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 03 October 2011, 22:17
All it needs is raising. Then the spring will exert more force to the wheels/rollers.  I'm sure I've mentioned it before  :tongue:

Sush  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:

will see what they come up with, nick has some ideas.. that is the very last resort

Adam - you know this.. car is not going anyplace but Carbon

I'm trusting CCT with Audi 250miles away for up to 3 weeks! Not many...sorry no other garage would I trust to do this.

I know the feeling Brad.

They need to come and see how we operate to understand us and until they do they just won't get it, as Carbon clients know it's not about rushing it in and out, or the money we make ( or we have stopped a while back ) it's about our commitment to getting it done right be that in a day, week or weeks whist looking after the clients car in a respectful manner  :wink:

Can you guys try & fix mine sometime week beginning 24th October? I've cleared it with the boss on the condition that we leave the car & I take her to the trafford centre.....could be a very expensive day :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 03 October 2011, 22:18
All it needs is raising. Then the spring will exert more force to the wheels/rollers.  I'm sure I've mentioned it before  :tongue:

Yeah we've been through this, it's not an option as he doesn't want to undo what he's happy with.

Really?? I must have missed something  :rolleyes:

Yeah alright!  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: The Doc on 03 October 2011, 22:24
All it needs is raising. Then the spring will exert more force to the wheels/rollers.  I'm sure I've mentioned it before  :tongue:

Sush  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:

will see what they come up with, nick has some ideas.. that is the very last resort

Adam - you know this.. car is not going anyplace but Carbon

I'm trusting CCT with Audi 250miles away for up to 3 weeks! Not many...sorry no other garage would I trust to do this.

I know the feeling Brad.

They need to come and see how we operate to understand us and until they do they just won't get it, as Carbon clients know it's not about rushing it in and out, or the money we make ( or we have stopped a while back ) it's about our commitment to getting it done right be that in a day, week or weeks whist looking after the clients car in a respectful manner  :wink:

Can you guys try & fix mine sometime week beginning 24th October? I've cleared it with the boss on the condition that we leave the car & I take her to the trafford centre.....could be a very expensive day :laugh:

Yes  :wink:

Give Nick a bell after 10am please - did you get your blag com working?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 03 October 2011, 22:27
All it needs is raising. Then the spring will exert more force to the wheels/rollers.  I'm sure I've mentioned it before  :tongue:

Sush  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:

will see what they come up with, nick has some ideas.. that is the very last resort

Adam - you know this.. car is not going anyplace but Carbon

I'm trusting CCT with Audi 250miles away for up to 3 weeks! Not many...sorry no other garage would I trust to do this.

I know the feeling Brad.

They need to come and see how we operate to understand us and until they do they just won't get it, as Carbon clients know it's not about rushing it in and out, or the money we make ( or we have stopped a while back ) it's about our commitment to getting it done right be that in a day, week or weeks whist looking after the clients car in a respectful manner  :wink:

Can you guys try & fix mine sometime week beginning 24th October? I've cleared it with the boss on the condition that we leave the car & I take her to the trafford centre.....could be a very expensive day :laugh:

Yes  :wink:

Give Nick a bell after 10am please - did you get your blag com working?

Will do, was going to ring today but went straight to the pub from work so didn't have time. No joy on the blag com front yet :sad:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: The Doc on 03 October 2011, 22:28
All it needs is raising. Then the spring will exert more force to the wheels/rollers.  I'm sure I've mentioned it before  :tongue:

Yeah we've been through this, it's not an option as he doesn't want to undo what he's happy with.

Really?? I must have missed something  :rolleyes:

Yeah alright!  :grin:

What everybody seems to be missing (or is it me) is that Brad does not want his ride height changing full stop, that's it, no discussion, no compromise, we are accommodating these wishes at a cost of nothing to any of the contributors here or in fact Brad, if any of you would like to come over when Brads car is in next to show us how it's done please be my guest.....

I'd love it if the car were raised but it ain't happnin so well do it as is - one way or another.

Cue elephant to sit on the bonnet whilst we dyno the swine  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 03 October 2011, 22:31
What everybody seems to be missing (or is it me) is that Brad does not want his ride height changing full stop, that's it, no discussion, no compromise, we are accommodating these wishes at a cost of nothing to any of the contributors here or in fact Brad, if any of you would like to come over when Brads car is in next to show us how it's done please be my guest.....JUST DON'T TOUCH THE CAR!!

I'd love it if the car were raised but it ain't happnin so well do it as is - one way or another.

Cue elephant to sit on the bonnet whilst we dyno the swine  :grin:

Added a little bit into that for you :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: The Doc on 03 October 2011, 22:33
What everybody seems to be missing (or is it me) is that Brad does not want his ride height changing full stop, that's it, no discussion, no compromise, we are accommodating these wishes at a cost of nothing to any of the contributors here or in fact Brad, if any of you would like to come over when Brads car is in next to show us how it's done please be my guest.....JUST DON'T TOUCH THE CAR!!

I'd love it if the car were raised but it ain't happnin so well do it as is - one way or another.

Cue elephant to sit on the bonnet whilst we dyno the swine  :grin:

Added a little bit into that for you :wink:

 :grin: it's easy with us as were the same  :grin:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 October 2011, 22:35
 :grin:

as i said before - Nick and Craig are true legends..just would not find this service anyplace else. :smiley:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 03 October 2011, 22:36
All it needs is raising. Then the spring will exert more force to the wheels/rollers.  I'm sure I've mentioned it before  :tongue:

Yeah we've been through this, it's not an option as he doesn't want to undo what he's happy with.

Really?? I must have missed something  :rolleyes:

Yeah alright!  :grin:

What everybody seems to be missing (or is it me) is that Brad does not want his ride height changing full stop, that's it, no discussion, no compromise, we are accommodating these wishes at a cost of nothing to any of the contributors here or in fact Brad, if any of you would like to come over when Brads car is in next to show us how it's done please be my guest.....

I'd love it if the car were raised but it ain't happnin so well do it as is - one way or another.

Cue elephant to sit on the bonnet whilst we dyno the swine  :grin:

Like I said, fat gf. :P

Brad, they're blatantly gonna raise it then drop it back down after you leave. :grin:

Just buy a new suspension then you have reason for it to be raised for a while. :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 03 October 2011, 22:38
Don't know why but I'm starting to get the impression that these boys at Carbon are a force to be reckoned with.  :grin:

Oh my days, you wait till I bring you mine next year!  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 03 October 2011, 22:46
Two words come to mind again.....Air.......Ride.... :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 03 October 2011, 22:48
Normally air is for gays but IMO with the class of work put into this, it works. :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 October 2011, 22:50
will this project ever end

shopping lists keep growing..

big brakes
big turbo

and now people are hitting me with Air ride

i need to go in a car with air ride before i can seriously consider it.. car is like a go kart at the mo and i like it
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 October 2011, 22:50
Two words come to mind again.....Air.......Ride.... :lipsrsealed:

THIS

Normally air is for gays but IMO with the class of work put into this, it works. :cool:

Coilovers are for people who cant afford air ride  :smug:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 03 October 2011, 22:54
Two words come to mind again.....Air.......Ride.... :lipsrsealed:

THIS

Normally air is for gays but IMO with the class of work put into this, it works. :cool:

Coilovers are for people who cant afford air ride  :smug:

IMO for a fast road car, coilovers or even a shock/spring set up all the way. For some serious show car (which IMO this kinda is), air ride.

Say DMondays Seat had airride, well I've never met him but I'd run out the bush and slip it right inside him.

Whereas this just seems different.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Lewy on 03 October 2011, 23:03
Normally air is for gays but IMO with the class of work put into this, it works. :cool:

Wanna fcuk?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 October 2011, 23:04
Normally air is for gays but IMO with the class of work put into this, it works. :cool:

Wanna fcuk?

:laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 03 October 2011, 23:05
Normally air is for gays but IMO with the class of work put into this, it works. :cool:

Wanna fcuk?

Mmmm, Air "Ride"  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 03 October 2011, 23:14
Normally air is for gays but IMO with the class of work put into this, it works. :cool:

Wanna fcuk?

 :smug:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 03 October 2011, 23:52
Good luck with getting it sorted :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 04 October 2011, 09:02
Air ride is sh!t brad, been in a few cars now with it, if you are going to be a show car whore and leave it in a garage do it, if you want to drive the car proper and corner well dont touch it,

Air ride is made for wagons, buses and disabled people carrierso

I know one lad who had it and drove his car as a daily kept splitting the bags and had to get recovered

I would go for this, better road handling

KW HLS

 HLS is available in two different versions: HLS 2 which is fitted to the front axle and HLS 4 which can be attached to the front and rear axle and allows lifting the entire vehicle. The hydraulic cylinder unit is located on the coilover body between spring perch and spring. Depending on the car type and model, KW HLS is either available as a vehicle-specific solution or as a conversion kit for KW or OEM coilover kits. Allows cars with low ground clearance to clear obstacles more easily
Available as complete kit including KW coilover kit or as conversion kit
Fast lifting - maximum lift occurs within 4 to 5 seconds when using HLS 2
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 04 October 2011, 09:05
little video mate for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u92ucshOEVw
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 October 2011, 10:06
Looks perfect what's the cost
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 04 October 2011, 10:11
Just be carefull though, here is the result of a DIY install

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdWDJWFoKCE&feature=related
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 04 October 2011, 12:21
Looks perfect what's the cost

its less than half the price of air and gives a better driving response mate, will look at some prices for you
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 October 2011, 12:37
Would come in very useful for a few places I have issues. Looks good
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: gtiballs61 on 04 October 2011, 16:21
That looks good mate.I would like to go lower although certain places i have to travel to wont allow me.
At least you get the option to go higher as and when you need to. :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 October 2011, 17:14
yeah deffo looks good, if the price is right..

anyhow in other news iv spoke to Doc, told him he can raise it, says he has ideas that will mean he does not think he needs to... if that idea does not work, we will then try raising it

hope this will shut you all up LOL :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: The Doc on 04 October 2011, 17:16
That's the spirit  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 04 October 2011, 18:13
Just be carefull though, here is the result of a DIY install

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdWDJWFoKCE&feature=related

there hydrolics not air
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Steve_PD on 05 October 2011, 19:50
Air ride is sh!t brad, been in a few cars now with it, if you are going to be a show car whore and leave it in a garage do it, if you want to drive the car proper and corner well dont touch it,

Air ride is made for wagons, buses and disabled people carrierso

I know one lad who had it and drove his car as a daily kept splitting the bags and had to get recovered

I would go for this, better road handling

KW HLS

 HLS is available in two different versions: HLS 2 which is fitted to the front axle and HLS 4 which can be attached to the front and rear axle and allows lifting the entire vehicle. The hydraulic cylinder unit is located on the coilover body between spring perch and spring. Depending on the car type and model, KW HLS is either available as a vehicle-specific solution or as a conversion kit for KW or OEM coilover kits. Allows cars with low ground clearance to clear obstacles more easily
Available as complete kit including KW coilover kit or as conversion kit
Fast lifting - maximum lift occurs within 4 to 5 seconds when using HLS 2


Fit decent bags and they dont split. Or they split because they are rubbing somewhere.
As for handling sh!t seen a few cars with air go around tracks and they where fine. And everyone who's gone from collies to air has said there is next to no difference in the handling or ride.

Oh and that kit is over £2k for the front shocks only :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tech1889 on 05 October 2011, 20:36
Air ride is sh!t brad, been in a few cars now with it, if you are going to be a show car whore and leave it in a garage do it, if you want to drive the car proper and corner well dont touch it,

Air ride is made for wagons, buses and disabled people carrierso

I know one lad who had it and drove his car as a daily kept splitting the bags and had to get recovered

I would go for this, better road handling

KW HLS

 HLS is available in two different versions: HLS 2 which is fitted to the front axle and HLS 4 which can be attached to the front and rear axle and allows lifting the entire vehicle. The hydraulic cylinder unit is located on the coilover body between spring perch and spring. Depending on the car type and model, KW HLS is either available as a vehicle-specific solution or as a conversion kit for KW or OEM coilover kits. Allows cars with low ground clearance to clear obstacles more easily
Available as complete kit including KW coilover kit or as conversion kit
Fast lifting - maximum lift occurs within 4 to 5 seconds when using HLS 2


Fit decent bags and they dont split. Or they split because they are rubbing somewhere.
As for handling sh!t seen a few cars with air go around tracks and they where fine. And everyone who's gone from collies to air has said there is next to no difference in the handling or ride.

Oh and that kit is over £2k for the front shocks only :lipsrsealed:

Bargain  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 06 October 2011, 14:54
if you want to go out in a car with air, will give my mate cliffy a shout see if he still has his car on air, ITS sh!t :sick: you will notice it with out a doubt
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Post by: Jimp on 06 October 2011, 17:41
If you're going air go top quality stuff only. Even if you are doing a homebrew build use only the best shocks, bags, compressors, lines etc. Cheap air is like cheap coils, utter sh!te.
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 October 2011, 17:56
ill have to see, not sure which way ill go. really want big turbo next and to modify my Gearbox to suit
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Post by: CCGTI on 06 October 2011, 17:58
best air ride system to are going to get a rayvern hydraulics, http://www.rayvernhydraulics.com/products/ been around the longest, leave your car with them for 7 days and they will get it sitting how you want it, price wise £4k+ easy, still think its GAY for a daily car
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 October 2011, 18:12
best air ride system to are going to get a rayvern hydraulics, http://www.rayvernhydraulics.com/products/ been around the longest, leave your car with them for 7 days and they will get it sitting how you want it, price wise £4k+ easy, still think its GAY for a daily car

the said 2.5k to me mate..

Anyhow,

other news, this weekend ill be taking off my Sump, as it is leaking at the join slightly. probably due to me grounding out

Been to audi, got the sealant needed, new screws, sump plug and a few seals for the oil pick up pipe and a new Oil Pick up pipe (may swell swap this out whilst its all in bits)

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4017/imageurz.jpg)

also bought new half moon seal for the cam cover as these are well known in the S3 / LCR world for shrinking due to heat and leaking oil. Also bought a new cam cover gasket while I'm at it. lastly bought a spare cam cover and iv painted it black today to match my gearbox and a few other parts so i can whip this on at the same time

started out like this:

(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/6859/1984025.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/1984025.jpg/)

Now looking like this:

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1746/imagevmo.jpg)

(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/2154/imageaez.jpg)

(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9236/imagendy.jpg)

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Post by: CCGTI on 06 October 2011, 18:15
looking clean

prices have dropped since last year then mate, i contacted them last june for my passat estate
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 October 2011, 18:16
Id fit it myself anyhow if i went down that route, bollox to leaving the car with anyone unless i really, really, really trust them
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Post by: CCGTI on 06 October 2011, 18:50
Id fit it myself anyhow if i went down that route, bollox to leaving the car with anyone unless i really, really, really trust them

I would rather leave it with someone, got to trust someone
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Post by: T_J_G on 06 October 2011, 19:59
Did someone just day Rayvern Air is the best?
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Post by: CCGTI on 06 October 2011, 20:03
been round the longest, so must know there stuff, plus chatted to a few people who have used him and have had nothing but good to say about them
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Post by: T_J_G on 06 October 2011, 20:05
Really? You must search harder. AVO shocks with bags. And £4k :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: CCGTI on 06 October 2011, 20:11
Really? You must search harder. AVO shocks with bags. And £4k :lipsrsealed:

well thats what i was qouted, will dig out the email if i have it
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Post by: T_J_G on 06 October 2011, 20:13
£1350 for kit, £700 fitting.

If you want QUALITY air ride I'll be looking at Air Lift, Bagyard maybe Masontech.
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Post by: CCGTI on 06 October 2011, 20:16
just been looking at bagyard uk price list and its cheaper than i thought
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Post by: T_J_G on 06 October 2011, 20:16
Bagriders.com :afro:
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Post by: Steve_PD on 06 October 2011, 20:20
Rayvern the best :lipsrsealed: please dont make me laugh anymore your killing me :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
no wonder your mates bags split :rolleyes:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 October 2011, 20:27
cheers for the heads up geezers.. food for thought  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 06 October 2011, 20:31
Rayvern the best :lipsrsealed: please dont make me laugh anymore your killing me :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
no wonder your mates bags split :rolleyes:

You just jumping on the band wagon or is that your own opinion, plus my mate whos bags that split werent ravern, but i do know a few lads running them and they like them  :wink:
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Post by: Wayne on 06 October 2011, 20:48
I would save the money and stick with the coilovers. :smiley:
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Post by: T_J_G on 06 October 2011, 20:50
You pay your money you take your choice.
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Post by: CCGTI on 06 October 2011, 20:52
I would save the money and stick with the coilovers. :smiley:

Your so right, as i said much better ride
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Post by: Jack3559 on 06 October 2011, 21:08
I love air ride, comfy as hell.
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Post by: CCGTI on 06 October 2011, 21:11
just priced up bagyard looking at just over £3k so i want that far off
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Post by: Steve_PD on 06 October 2011, 21:53
and its worth the extra over a Rayvern kit

Rayvern the best :lipsrsealed: please dont make me laugh anymore your killing me :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
no wonder your mates bags split :rolleyes:

You just jumping on the band wagon or is that your own opinion, plus my mate whos bags that split werent ravern, but i do know a few lads running them and they like them  :wink:

I done quiet a bit of research into it as I wanted it for my car so Ive read and seen reviews/topics. Rayverns installs are alright but the bags/shocks he uses are sh!t.
My next car will not be lowered on collies it will be air
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Post by: CCGTI on 06 October 2011, 22:04
and its worth the extra over a Rayvern kit

Rayvern the best :lipsrsealed: please dont make me laugh anymore your killing me :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
no wonder your mates bags split :rolleyes:

You just jumping on the band wagon or is that your own opinion, plus my mate whos bags that split werent ravern, but i do know a few lads running them and they like them  :wink:

 

I done quiet a bit of research into it as I wanted it for my car so Ive read and seen reviews/topics. Rayverns installs are alright but the bags/shocks he uses are sh!t.
My next car will not be lowered on collies it will be air

that s fair enough mate, once yo have got your struts, bags, tank, air lines,  solenoids, ride height control it really adds up, never heard of a £2k air ride kit
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Post by: tshirt2k on 06 October 2011, 22:08
I would save the money and stick with the coilovers. :smiley:

Decent coilovers and not £150 specials.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: archie837 on 07 October 2011, 06:22
bagyard supremes seem to be getting good write ups
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 October 2011, 18:49
Today we fixed the slight oil leak i had on my rocker cover gasket and sump...

A spare rocker cover i painted the other day:

(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6411/imagehne.jpg)

Took sump off, was not so bad, prob due to low miles on the engine, their was small bits of plastic in the bottom tho from broken dipstick tubes LOL

(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/4228/imagezms.jpg)

Removed old Pick up pipe, again this was not too dirty at all. But we swapped it out for a new one anyhow

(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3902/imageedv.jpg)

And here is the new one in place

(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5059/imageknn.jpg)

I started to clean the sump

(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7051/imagecoa.jpg)

then fitted it along with new Sump plug ETC

Moved on the cam cover gasket and tensioner Half moon seal and gasket

Old Half moon seal and gasket on the left

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/729/imagejzh.jpg)

fitted new cam cover gasket then built it all back up

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6213/imagedez.jpg)

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1457/imagecrk.jpg)

(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4031/imagesov.jpg)

Put the engine cover back on so you can't really see much of the new rocker cover but I'm more than pleased with the outcome

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Post by: CCGTI on 08 October 2011, 18:54
As always very clean mate
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Post by: barrym381 on 08 October 2011, 18:56
As always very clean mate
+1 spotless looking bay
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 October 2011, 21:38
Cheers  :cool: :wink:
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Post by: Rhyso on 08 October 2011, 21:45
Missed a bit  :kiss:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 October 2011, 21:46
Missed a bit  :kiss:

 :grin:
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Post by: Seanl on 09 October 2011, 07:20
Glad you've still got time to give yours some love with the mk2 transplant.  :smiley:
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Post by: travisreeve on 09 October 2011, 22:53
i hope my bays that clean  :drool:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 10 October 2011, 09:45
i hope my bays that clean  :drool:

Your bay is with fresh paint and all, but as far as the engine goes, it's going to take more than hope.
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Post by: Sam on 10 October 2011, 09:53
I would run her without the stupid plastic cover and show off all your hard work  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 October 2011, 19:34
yeah does look really smart now.. the original finish they leave the cam covers in is  :sick:.  Iv kept the original one tho all the same
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Post by: DanChave on 05 November 2011, 15:05
Wow. I Have finally read the ENTIRE thread so far, and it only took my about three days lol!
Great work I must say :cool:

I am really feeling every aspect of your car and what you and Ben have done. (Including the S3 clock decals :wink:) I was going to repaint my MK3 LO41 but I think I'll use LC9X Orcaschwarz just to be a little different now!

Quick question, when you had everything re painted, did you have it painted in solid colour or basecoat and lacquer?

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Post by: F17BAD on 05 November 2011, 15:37
It was a Solid paint like the original was. but  before this was applied it was taken right back and a black primer was used :smiley:
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Post by: DanChave on 05 November 2011, 15:52
That's cool, I thought it looked like solid :) lovely finish, even before it was flat and polished!
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Post by: stow1985 on 13 November 2011, 23:56
WOW incredible  :cool: :cool:
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Post by: mumbles on 14 November 2011, 13:21
Good clean work as always. Really like this car mate, nice work :afro:
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Post by: jamrock on 14 November 2011, 15:50
really liking it kells!!

whats planned next for this beast?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 November 2011, 17:46
Cheers for these comments, makes it all worthwhile  :smiley:

its still awaiting full custom map which will carry me through to the next big thing planned: A Limited Slip Differential.. then a BIG bad ass Turbo kit and Brakes to suit

 :cool:
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Post by: porter_89 on 14 November 2011, 17:50
in a bit you will put your foot down at the lights the engine will go with you sat in the shell still at the lights haha
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 November 2011, 17:57
 :grin: hahaha  love it mate
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Post by: mumbles on 14 November 2011, 18:20
in a bit you will put your foot down at the lights the engine will go with you sat in the shell still at the lights haha

 :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: stow1985 on 14 November 2011, 20:34
What brakes set up have you got at the moment?
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 November 2011, 20:42
What brakes set up have you got at the moment?


it has the Standard GTI set up 280mm with Mintex pads all round, mintex discs all round too, they are veery good and TBH cope perfect.. but after heavy braking from 150 MPH. the pads were smoking badly and more power means these deffo need a upgrade

disc size is fine, may go larger on these, deciding on either a Porsche Brembo set up or some Hi spec Calipers.. looking at close to 1k whatever way i go  :sad: :grin:
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Post by: stow1985 on 14 November 2011, 21:09
loving the porsche brembo set up!! its a must..  :cool:

surprised the gti set up can deal with that amount of power  :shocked:

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Post by: Bellend on 14 November 2011, 21:11
I have the 288mm GTI set up and they area very good set up. Decent Ferrodo pads and Brembo discs stopped me very well at 110 to 0 and barely locked up and at the same time no fade.  :cool:
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Post by: stow1985 on 14 November 2011, 21:43
I have the 288mm GTI set up and they area very good set up. Decent Ferrodo pads and Brembo discs stopped me very well at 110 to 0 and barely locked up and at the same time no fade.  :cool:

How much did that set you back?  :shocked:
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Post by: dom on 14 November 2011, 21:49
I have the 288mm GTI set up and they area very good set up.

Yes but Brad is running more than twice the power you are so the comparison is pretty pointless, a 312mm setup would be better suited. I'm currently running less power than Brad but am looking at going to 312mm.

Decent Ferrodo pads and Brembo discs stopped me very well at 110 to 0 and barely locked up and at the same time no fade.  :cool:

How much did that set you back?  :shocked:

They aren't too expensive, however 110mph from a 1.6 is optimistic to say the least :rolleyes:
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 November 2011, 22:14
i have a lot of power, but lighter than a MK4 or a S3 etc etc, it stops superb, but even when the map is done ill be pushing it never mind the Turbo upgrade..

its important to do this now as the car is only going up in power

in a nutshell, standard GTI set up is really good for what it is
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Post by: Bellend on 15 November 2011, 08:15
I have the 288mm GTI set up and they area very good set up.

Yes but Brad is running more than twice the power you are so the comparison is pretty pointless, a 312mm setup would be better suited. I'm currently running less power than Brad but am looking at going to 312mm.

Decent Ferrodo pads and Brembo discs stopped me very well at 110 to 0 and barely locked up and at the same time no fade.  :cool:

How much did that set you back?  :shocked:

They aren't too expensive, however 110mph from a 1.6 is optimistic to say the least :rolleyes:

Comparison is fine, it's the same car and nearly pointing out mjy views on said set up. Probably a similar weight with my tools in the back too. Just cause it has more power doesn't mean anything at the same speeds. Obviously 150mph braking will warrent the upgrade.

GPS, downhill. Speedometers said something like 123 or something.
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Post by: golf-sib on 15 November 2011, 13:09
I have 288 on the mk4 with goodridge hoses for front, mid and rear brake setup. Mintex all around and uprated brake fluid.

All in all brilliant setup, but on a very spirited drive no locking or squiggy brakes, but pads do smoke due to the heat involved. The mk4 is heavier so the brakes have to work harder even with 200bhp. Non the less a good setup.
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Post by: LazyLunatic on 15 November 2011, 13:24
I have the G60 setup on mine, which is a 4 stud version of the GTI, so the same. I have the goodridge hoses and standard pads and discs and the setup is pretty damn good for what it is. I haven't felt the need for better brakes tbh.
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Post by: F17BAD on 15 November 2011, 21:30
agree with all of the above  :smiley:

Coming hime from working on the MK2 tonight, i hit a fox that was in the road. it was hit by the car in front of me.. i couldn't do anything but hit it as cars were on the other side of the road and i didn't have time to brake plus their was cars behind me..

I have no damage, apart from some damage to the splitter.. now has a visible split. but I'm not so bothered about that, i just feel awful. Could feel it under the car and it was dragged... lots of blood... not feeling good TBH.. poor fox  :sad:
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Post by: Seanl on 15 November 2011, 21:39
You would be feeling a damn site worse if it had dented and scratched your bodywork though!
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Post by: F17BAD on 15 November 2011, 21:48
i would mate yeah.. i checked it all and its all ok apart from my VR6 splitter has taken some damage, and is split (was a weak spot after all the abuse it has had it was already damaged to the underside where you couldn't see)..
was unlucky to have had to hit it, the vision i got out my rear window was not a pretty sight at all....
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Post by: golf-sib on 16 November 2011, 09:29
So when you getting you forum named changed to F17FoxKill3r  :grin:

I know how you feel, I had an incident many years ago like yours, no where to move over and hit a dog. It was several dogs running out the pikey site in thamesmead on there own and I hit one, remember the dog fluff around my alloys.
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 November 2011, 10:28
Not good mate is it... I have not dared to look under the car yet. Double checked all the bodywork and all is good apart from the splitter. I'll get a pic later
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 16 November 2011, 11:20
Not good mate is it... I have not dared to look under the car yet. Double checked all the bodywork and all is good apart from the splitter. I'll get a pic later

Sounds like you came off OK compared to the fox, hit one in my daily not that long ago and the bottom left corner of my bumper is smashed to bits. Lots of gorilla tape on it at the mo.

Sadly I later discovered that Gorilla tape can't fix a dead fox.
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 November 2011, 11:48
Testiment to the build quality and the paint quality I guess. Really did think I was gonna be greeted with a damaged bumper. Amazed it's only the splitter. I still feel bad I could feel it under the car.. Horrible :sick:
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Post by: DanChave on 16 November 2011, 12:21
Mate, thats savage! I hit a couple of birds some time last year, its an awful feeling aint it! At least the car is ok :)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Neo Badness on 18 November 2011, 12:53
Aw nasty. I hit a hare that'd been clipped by the car on front. Nothing you can do about it, doesn't make you feel much better though. Fur and blood gets everywhere.  :sick:

Conversely, my mate hit a red stag coming round a bend up North and wrote off the stag and his van. He was lucky to walk away from that one tbh. So shame for the fox but just be thankful it wasn't anything bigger.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 20 November 2011, 21:53
Had a issue with boost hose

(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8205/imageeit.jpg)

This is to the front mount intercooler.. going to have these made up in Aluminium
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Post by: dazzawest1987 on 20 November 2011, 22:14
Done when you hit the fox?
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Post by: tshirt2k on 20 November 2011, 22:17
What happened with the hose?
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Post by: F17BAD on 20 November 2011, 22:19
Don't know mate

i fitted a new N75 valve, and i think the car is now holding boost better, anyhow i popped the hose and upon refitting it i found this damage.. could have been like this a while ?

i am going to get this full piece made up in Aluminium tubing now i have the exact pattern of the route of piping, its the hot side that joins the intercooler to the charge pipe  :smiley:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 20 November 2011, 22:30
Hmm.  That could be where the missing boost went. Wonder if this would have affected the mapping ? I had a similar issue withy map, when done with leaks.

Looks like something could have worn through it.  :undecided:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 20 November 2011, 22:32
Hmm.  That could be where the missing boost went. Wonder if this would have affected the mapping ? I had a similar issue withy map, when done with leaks.

Looks like something could have worn through it.  :undecided:

yeas it sits close to part of the front panel, could well be where issues have been.

just gonna replace the whole lot with metal.. no more issues like this then
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Post by: lemski on 20 November 2011, 22:50
i think thats why i would go all metal brad
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 November 2011, 13:37
Paint job scores 10 points no damage at all !! :-)

 Right can anybody put the grooved edges on aluminum pipe for me? It's for my replacement pipe work, I will get the pipe work and have it made up. Would just need the raised edges ? I know somebody on here had a machine to do it ?
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Post by: Sam on 21 November 2011, 18:08
Don't know mate

i fitted a new N75 valve, and i think the car is now holding boost better, anyhow i popped the hose and upon refitting it i found this damage.. could have been like this a while ?

i am going to get this full piece made up in Aluminium tubing now i have the exact pattern of the route of piping, its the hot side that joins the intercooler to the charge pipe  :smiley:

Changing to ally will aid heat dissipation slightly before the cooler too. May be worth looking into getting a little more airflow around the bay though because of this. Only minor differences but you are chasing ponies and every little helps

Paint job scores 10 points no damage at all !! :-)

 Right can anybody put the grooved edges on aluminum pipe for me? It's for my replacement pipe work, I will get the pipe work and have it made up. Would just need the raised edges ? I know somebody on here had a machine to do it ?

As stated, its called beading. There are machines/hand tools that do it by rolling the inside of the pipe for not alot of monies. Failing that a local fabrication shop will have tig/mig and should be able to run a run of weld around it for pennies. There is also a few ways of creating a DIY tool which are fairly simple but knowing your craving for 'perfection' this route may give too much of a backyard finish to the job.

here is diy

(http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=127885&stc=1&d=1284828982)
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Post by: F17BAD on 21 November 2011, 18:15
cheers dude, i do have opened up vents in this area however

but as you say, every pony

 counts :-)

@Wolverline - thats the one  :wink: sure somebody on here had a machine to do it ?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 November 2011, 18:29
Caistor i do want a perfect finish for the bay, this car is now about the performance but also the fit and finish too...  without been just a show queen..

Wolverline think it was him yeah
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 November 2011, 17:50
Ok.. so 2 bad things happened today

1: i almost cut off my finger
2 the Sump is now no use.. finally given way due to hitting the ground some more

New one is on its way, and iv also found somebody to do my pipe work so ill get this done too :-)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 22 November 2011, 17:53
Ok.. so 2 bad things happened today

1: i almost cut off my finger
2 the Sump is now no use.. finally given way due to hitting the ground some more

New one is on its way, and iv also found somebody to do my pipe work so ill get this done too :-)

Thought of a shallow sump?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 22 November 2011, 17:57
not a fan of shallow ones mate, i hear some horror stories plus i want to keep all the level sensor etc

I want a INA sump but at £300 form the states ill stick with the Vag ones, £40.. yes please  :wink: :smiley:

sump is a couple inch away from floor, not wanting to use spacers on engine as no room, engine cover will not fit on
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 November 2011, 18:03
no non at all, subframe has been know to catch only in very extreme cases tho
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Post by: archie837 on 22 November 2011, 19:27
Skidplate?
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 November 2011, 19:28
id like one of them  :cool:
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Post by: stow1985 on 22 November 2011, 19:54
what about sump plate?
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Post by: tshirt2k on 22 November 2011, 20:15
What I did with mine regarding the beads. Got some rings made to fit over the ends of the pipe and tack welded them on. Obviously because stainless is harder to put beads on. Weld beads round the end isn't very neat.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/tshirt2k/16vt%20project/d42f4bb8.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/tshirt2k/16vt%20project/762f4d5a.jpg)

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Post by: Wayne on 22 November 2011, 21:25
Look at getting some skid plates fitted to the sump.
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 November 2011, 22:17
Russ, i like it, told you, u need to move up north  :cool:

i have found a place who can do the pipe bend (the joys of having 5000 Facebook friends haha)

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Post by: F17BAD on 27 November 2011, 16:51
Right, so the sump was damaged yet again and this resulted in a  nasty crack..

it put up a brave fight and took some serious beating...but it was too bad to even drive the car...

Here you can see the oil seeping out of the crack...it was around a inch or so long

(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9426/imagemdn.jpg)

so off it came.. (again LOL)

(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9579/imageuno.jpg)

New Sump

(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5496/imagexhi.jpg)

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/5083/imagegue.jpg)

filled with the finest OEM oil and everybody is happy

(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8476/imageusz.jpg)


Next small update will be new Alloy boost pipe i am having made up to replace the damaged silicone item.. dropping it off at the plce who is doing it for me tomorrow  :cool:
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Post by: T_J_G on 27 November 2011, 18:41
Did you not look into getting a shallow sump?
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 November 2011, 18:43
Did you not look into getting a shallow sump?

no mate, i really don't want one of those due to oil starvation.. you have to run less oil in those and IMO that can only be a bad thing

looked at the INA strengthened sump from USA but its is around £300 to get it here.. the genuine ones i can get for £39.. so ill live with this for now

I'm after other stuff, i want to 2.0T coil pack conversion too, so would rather spend the ££ on that.. these are also form USA..
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Post by: T_J_G on 27 November 2011, 18:44
Did you not look into getting a shallow sump?

no mate, i really don't want one of those due to oil starvation.. you have to run less oil in those and IMO that can only be a bad thing

looked at the INA strengthened sump from USA but its is around £300 to get it here.. the genuine ones i can get for £39.. so ill live with this for now

I'm after other stuff, i want to 2.0T coil pack conversion too, so would rather spend the ££ on that.. these are also form USA..

Engine raisers or would the lump hit the bonnet?

Spose at £40 + oil it's a serviceable part  :laugh: :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 November 2011, 18:47
can't raise the lump as i have no clearance at the top either

The guy at Audi says he sells a lot of these to normal S3 owners on cars that are not lowered.. they sit low even at standard height in the S3 apparently

i have a few 5L containers of the Gold Longlife III oil that i got from my contacts at VW  :lipsrsealed:

so yeah for £39.. and a hour or so ov my time its not such a big deal... 
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Post by: dubsport on 29 November 2011, 17:56
the joys of modifying cars hey  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 29 November 2011, 21:06
Its all fun and games mate hahaha..

Still gives me less hassle than the women in my life!!!
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 December 2011, 11:06
Its all fun and games mate hahaha..

Still gives me less hassle than the women in my life!!!

The reason my car never gets the attention I want to give it!  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: DanChave on 02 December 2011, 11:51
Its all fun and games mate hahaha..

Still gives me less hassle than the women in my life!!!

The reason my car never gets the attention I want to give it!  :lipsrsealed:

The age old 'You love your car more than me!' drama lol!
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 December 2011, 17:14
Ok so today i got back my custom intercooler piping i had made up to replace the pipe i had before which is pictured below

few reasons why i wanted to got 1 piece and in alloy is because the silicone on the pipe  had before was split in 2 places where it was rubbing on the front cross member.. and also because i wanted to have less joins meaning less chance of leaks and also to get rid of the plastic pipe that used to house the MAP sensor - this has now been relocated to the cold side where it should be..

this pipe lives on the drivers side of the engine and goes from the metal charge pipe that flows round the left side of the engine. this pipe joins this to the front mount intercooler

the guy has done a superb job even by my standards


old v new

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1961/imagerbjh.jpg)

(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/994/imagegzk.jpg)

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/267/imagewea.jpg)

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2748/imageqqz.jpg)
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Post by: tshirt2k on 06 December 2011, 17:45
Looks like a good job :afro:
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Post by: DanChave on 06 December 2011, 17:59
That looks awesome :cool:
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Post by: Sam on 06 December 2011, 18:39
Install it then!
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 December 2011, 18:43
will be but it is hale stone city here, pitch black and i have not eaten for a day.. i literally put these pics up as i got it home

i need to trim more off the rad housing too to clear the silicone bend that comes of the FMI.

will be glad to get it on the car so i can drive it again
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 December 2011, 18:44
Cool,  :cool: so where does that sensor go that's on the plastic one?
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Post by: Sam on 06 December 2011, 18:45
will be but it is hale stone city here, pitch black and i have not eaten for a day.. i literally put these pics up as i got it home

i need to trim more off the rad housing too to clear the silicone bend that comes of the FMI.

will be glad to get it on the car so i can drive it again

And theres me thinking you commited,  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 06 December 2011, 18:51
will be but it is hale stone city here, pitch black and i have not eaten for a day.. i literally put these pics up as i got it home

i need to trim more off the rad housing too to clear the silicone bend that comes of the FMI.

will be glad to get it on the car so i can drive it again

And theres me thinking you commited,  :laugh:

mate I'm going through absolute hell at the moment.. i am not myself at all. times very bad


Shaun (have i spelt that right) the sensor is now relocated to the other side of the engine using a tube made by forge.
I had it mounted on the hot side originally and this is wrong, as it is suppose to go on the cold side (which it is now)

the guy that made this tube tho, said he could have made me the tube i bought from forge, i only have the 2 silicone bits coming off the FMI now and one piece going onto the TB.. rest is alloy
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Post by: daz veedub on 06 December 2011, 20:27
good work going on there mate  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 December 2011, 20:48
cheers mate.. on the pursuit of perfection as ever lol..

will be using this guy for future work on project cars i work on  :cool:
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Post by: Neo Badness on 07 December 2011, 00:51
That is nice bit of alloy pipe :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 07 December 2011, 11:36
will be but it is hale stone city here, pitch black and i have not eaten for a day.. i literally put these pics up as i got it home

i need to trim more off the rad housing too to clear the silicone bend that comes of the FMI.

will be glad to get it on the car so i can drive it again

And theres me thinking you commited,  :laugh:

mate I'm going through absolute hell at the moment.. i am not myself at all. times very bad


Shaun (have i spelt that right) the sensor is now relocated to the other side of the engine using a tube made by forge.
I had it mounted on the hot side originally and this is wrong, as it is suppose to go on the cold side (which it is now)

the guy that made this tube tho, said he could have made me the tube i bought from forge, i only have the 2 silicone bits coming off the FMI now and one piece going onto the TB.. rest is alloy

Was only joking, sounds like your having a misserable time atm. You should probally crack on with the caddy to take your mind off things  :evil:
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 December 2011, 17:27
cheers for the replies etc

really happy with the pipe, iv took the polishing off the edges where the silicone 90 degree bends will seat, and i will be fitting this either tomorrow night or saturday morning

i need to use the car saturday nite as I have got important plans so it will deffo be fitted by then!

Sam, cheers mate.. yep times are worse than ever before. just trying to get by at the mo.. day at a time and all that...
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 December 2011, 18:31
Got the new pipe fitted just now (hands are freezing)  

works a charm and fits perfect, my silicone coupler needs some adjustment tho which ill either replace or carry out in the daylight another day

no pics as its dark.

Next stop for the car is going to be Carbon to get this Custom map sorted..just arraying this with the main man....
Also need them do logs on the MAF as i dunno if it is AGAIN on its way out.. that or one of the coil packs..  look g to replace the coil packs with the 2.0T versions and adapter plates tho from the USA :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 December 2011, 17:43
okay.. so the pipe i fitted the other day is spot on  :cool:

today saw the death to the Sump thats been for a week.... Yep a fooking week is all it lasted

my expensive oil is  now all over some floor in Leeds


(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2752/imagejoi.jpg)

(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/4549/imageehgs.jpg)

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5822/imagedwy.jpg)

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8840/imagepgp.jpg)

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5725/imageevo.jpg)


Going to be taking Sump to my workshop where i had my pipe made up for some modifications to be made  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tech1889 on 14 December 2011, 17:55
sump plate is 100% needed mate..
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 December 2011, 17:59
sump plate is 100% needed mate..

Time to raise the suspension!  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tech1889 on 14 December 2011, 18:03
sump plate is 100% needed mate..

Time to raise the suspension!  :lipsrsealed:

such a defeatist !
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 December 2011, 18:04
Suspension raise is not a option

Modifications to sump is tho :-)

I have ideas  :wink: and if it works i will be offering to on all 20VT conversions we carry out
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Post by: Sam on 14 December 2011, 18:10
Shallow sump  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 December 2011, 18:16
Shallow sump  :smiley:

rather stick pins in bens eyes than run one :grin:

no oil level sensor and running less than recommended oil is not what i personally would want to do on my car.. (just personal opinion)

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Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 December 2011, 18:19
sump plate is 100% needed mate..

Time to raise the suspension!  :lipsrsealed:

such a defeatist !

Not really, it was probably fine with the 8v lump in it but clearly not with this motor.  A guard may protect the sump but at the same time reduce your ground clearance even more.  It's still going to bottom out and I would not be happy about this with a car that has the kind of performance this one does now.

Suspension raise is not a option

Modifications to sump is tho :-)

I have ideas  :wink: and if it works i will be offering to on all 20VT conversions we carry out

Edit:  I've lost track of this car a little, engine raise has been discussed before hasn't it?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: archie837 on 14 December 2011, 20:14
Yoooo welcome to the world of the low daily!
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 December 2011, 20:46
Yoooo welcome to the world of the low daily!

 :grin:  It's always been low, but now a smidge too low for that sump IMO.
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Post by: Adam on 14 December 2011, 21:28
How many scene points you on now? :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 December 2011, 21:57
can you measure how low your sump is off the floor for me please mate?

about 2 inch mate

Adam.. im racking them up big styleee  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 December 2011, 22:00
Yoooo welcome to the world of the low daily!

 :grin:  It's always been low, but now a smidge too low for that sump IMO.

yep always been sat on its ass

can't raise engine, as you say we mentioned this before. i don't have the clearance topside due to bonnet..

only options i have are

1: raise car (not gonna happen as it would need to be raised lots to make it worthwhile and i will then look gay)
2; shallow sump (Big No No)
3 Remove engine and fit 8v (what nightmares are made of and never gonna happen
4; modify the sump to make it stronger


number 4 wins for now
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 14 December 2011, 22:22
If you're worried about the amount of oil, why not run a shallow sump and fit an oil cooler?
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 December 2011, 22:25
Yoooo welcome to the world of the low daily!

 :grin:  It's always been low, but now a smidge too low for that sump IMO.

yep always been sat on its ass

can't raise engine, as you say we mentioned this before. i don't have the clearance topside due to bonnet..

only options i have are

1: raise car (not gonna happen as it would need to be raised lots to make it worthwhile and i will then look gay)
2; shallow sump (Big No No)
3 Remove engine and fit 8v (what nightmares are made of and never gonna happen
4; modify the sump to make it stronger


number 4 wins for now

You forgot number 5........... Bonnet Bulge then engine raise.  :grin:

number 4 sounds like you're still intent on letting the sump get smacked?????

If you're worried about the amount of oil, why not run a shallow sump and fit an oil cooler?

I don't think it's just temp concerns.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 14 December 2011, 22:35
The oil cooler would increase the amount of oil he can put in back to standard if he ran a shallow sump.
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 December 2011, 22:39
yeah oil starvation on this engine is my main worry hence no shallow sumps for me, plus i want to keep my level sensor and the shallow type don't have this.. its not healthy to run shallow sump on the S3 engines..

really want the INA strengthened sump from the USA, spoke to the dude, he says its same size as OEM. but will just bend rather than crack.. if i can make mine this strong id be happy.. so i will see if it can be achieved . the one from USA is very $$$$$$$  to get here

The sump is gonna have to be able to take some abuse. i drive the car how it was made to be driven. (even tho its kept mint)

On a brighter note.. I'm kind of hoping Mr Santa might bring me a gift with Quaife written on it.. we will see.....

also gonna get Ben in the workshop making up an adapter plate so i can run 2.0T Coilpacks (they are same fit but too long).. so i can increase my spark gap..

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Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 December 2011, 22:44
Why did car manufacturers stop using steel sumps, bl00dy cast rubbish! Not sure when they changed but the mk1 has a "bendy" sump.

Suppose it's lighter, cheaper, blah blah blah.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 14 December 2011, 22:46
You could check your oil on a daily basis and ensure she is at the max at all times or have your car crap its pants requiring a new sump on a fortnightly basis which inevetably means running the engine for at least a short distance with no oil in it? I know which one I would rather do  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Steve_PD on 14 December 2011, 22:49
VW do sell a top half aluminium bottom half steel sump for the 1.8T

Steel one on the right, normal aluminium one on the left

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/5042325345_ebd0471f0e_b.jpg)

But has no oil sensor, but if you check your oil regularly then you'll have no problems
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 December 2011, 22:52
The original sump i had is much better quality, i still have this, it only has 1 small hairline crack. so if the modification goes ok on the current sump, i will revive the original sump that i destroyed first

The new sump is OEM , German made, Much much softer cheap metal LOL.. not that it matter if i have it strengthened

see what the guy says tomo morning


oil starvation has been known sam with shallow sumps which can be catastrophic, i check my oil weekly anyway.. its nothing to do with that.. as i say its actually when its running you need to worry about starvation.. Turbos are not cheap.. especially when i am going to be fitting a Gt 28 or a GT30 (both circa £1000)

their was oil still left in the sump... it didn't start coming out till the engine stopped.. about 20 mins after intact.. same as last time.

Also worht mentioning mine has the all important oil sensors in it (unlike lesser 20vt) which is vital to me.. shallow sumps also loose this

on S3 forums the shallow sump is not a favoured option

i would just rather have mine but so it can take abuse


Steve those are not for S3 AMK / BAM tho, no oil sensors etc
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Post by: golf-sib on 15 December 2011, 08:24
Shallow sumps have no sensor? :huh: Wat ya on drags lol

Plenty of shallow sumps which have a sensor point, which is a must especially on a shallow sump, look around, I remember looking into it and did find a few manufacturers with the sensor point on the shallow sump.

I don't think oil starvation is an issue, its not like your running slicks. Only downside with less oil is the oil will deteriate quicker due to less of it as the engine smashes the oil chains, plus there's more heat transfer occuring with less oil. Fit oil cooler, up the oil capacity and helps cool especially if you want to go down the gt28 route. Could also buy them things, can't remember what they are called that go between the engine and sump, they act as barriers to stop oil splashing to one side completely to reduce oil starvation.
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 15 December 2011, 09:09
Do you mean a sump baffle?
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Post by: Sam on 15 December 2011, 09:20
 :evil:

http://www.chevyhardcore.com/features/pri-coverage/pri-2010-moroso%E2%80%99s-tri-lobe-dry-sump-oil-pump/
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Horney on 15 December 2011, 09:28
I was going to suggest dry sumping it as well.

To be honest if you want to stay that low you need to either run a shallow steel sump with baffles and a windage tray or if you want to stick with the ali full size sump then you need a hefty sumpguard like the rally boys use. Anything else is just a bodge and a prayer.

Not sure why you're so worried about oil starvation and not having the level sensor. All the VAG engines for the last 20 years have essentially the same design and you only hear of oil starvation problems on trackdays, even then it's pretty rare.

Nick
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: golf-sib on 15 December 2011, 11:08
Do you mean a sump baffle?

thats the one, on the polo 6n engines, you could buy a baffle plate that you could place into a shallow or normal sump with the fins in place between the sump and engine like a gasket, saved hassle buying a completely modified sump, not sure if stuff like this exsists for the 1.8T. But one could be made I suppose.

But dry baffled sump, with sensor if you want, plus oil cooler to increase oil capacity is the way I'd go personally. Especially if you fancy a trackday(s) at some point.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 December 2011, 11:33
Bill at badger mentioned oil starvation with shallow sumps on my engine
It's not a option for me at all and iv never seen a
Shallow one with the sensors  ???

Link me up?

Anyhow I can get the INA one baffled it's cost £300 quid!

I get my modified sump back in the morning so I'll see how this fairs before I do anything else.

LSD is next
Then BIGger turbo in new year
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: golf-sib on 15 December 2011, 14:19
I'll have a look when I get in for you. As I looked into it before as I thought my engine was scraping, only to find out it was the plate under the cat luckily.

Take it you will be upgrading the internals as well, get the 2.0 stroker kit if you are doing so, it is a bit of money but the added capacity will aid in turbo spoil plus you will be upsetting mk5 owners with a 2.0 20vT engine. Its a popular kit amongst the audi 1.8T boys.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 15 December 2011, 14:43
Bill at badger mentioned oil starvation with shallow sumps on my engine
It's not a option for me at all and iv never seen a
Shallow one with the sensors  ???

Link me up?

Anyhow I can get the INA one baffled it's cost £300 quid!

I get my modified sump back in the morning so I'll see how this fairs before I do anything else.

LSD is next
Then BIGger turbo in new year

Cant you simply instell sensor holes/brackets/however they work on a shallow sump?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 December 2011, 18:21
I'll have a look when I get in for you. As I looked into it before as I thought my engine was scraping, only to find out it was the plate under the cat luckily.

Take it you will be upgrading the internals as well, get the 2.0 stroker kit if you are doing so, it is a bit of money but the added capacity will aid in turbo spoil plus you will be upsetting mk5 owners with a 2.0 20vT engine. Its a popular kit amongst the audi 1.8T boys.


mate the car upsets Mk5 owners at present, as we found out the other week Versus the Mk5 with new S3 engine and apparently  350HP :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Normal Mk5 GTIs/ ED30s are nothing to worry about at all

will look into that tho, sounds good

@Wolverline - that sounds really good but I'm not looking to spend millions haha, i know it seems as tho i have etc but i never intended to go this far.. basically want this car to be a showcase for what me and ben can offer to people as a package..
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 15 December 2011, 18:46
If your car is a showcase, surely you should show people that you can convert to run a dry sump? Rather than showcasing that you can stick some metal to a deep sump to prolong the time before it breaks/gets twitted hard
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 December 2011, 19:27
i don't want a dry sump...or a shallow sump

why can't people just accept this lol :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: golf-sib on 15 December 2011, 19:31
i don't want a dry sump...or a shallow sump

why can't people just accept this lol :grin:

Because behind every successful person are a bunch of good advisors  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 December 2011, 19:35
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

i had a quick look around about the Dry sump kit.. nice yeah but £2500 and nothing specific for the S3 engine..

plus its for race cars. so the only benefit for me is the ride height..  but i can buy a hell of a lot of modified sumps for £2500 + LOl :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 December 2011, 19:47
i don't want a dry sump...or a shallow sump

why can't people just accept this lol :grin:

What about a dry and shallow sump?  :laugh:

:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

i had a quick look around about the Dry sump kit.. nice yeah but £2500 and nothing specific for the S3 engine..

plus its for race cars. so the only benefit for me is the ride height..  but i can buy a hell of a lot of modified sumps for £2500 + LOl :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Well this is your personal car so you can do whatever suits you, however, as far as showcasing goes I suppose you'll just have to point out that for a mk3 at least there is clearly a limit as to how low it can go before it runs into trouble.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: golf-sib on 15 December 2011, 20:28
mk3's don't have much room from floor to bonnet, look at the inside of the bonnet on a mk3, they have holes around where he suspension goes as its pretty close to the bonnet. Whilst on a mk4 you could fit a kitchen in between the bonnet and the suspension mount.

I swear g-werks made a sump with an oil sensor as its the only shallow sump left in my bookmarks, they stocked a few different variation, but it looks like g-werks is now out of business  :sad: Didn't VW make a shallow sump for brazilian or south african market? Alternatively your mate with the welding that did you pipes could make a oil sensor connection somehow, incase you are ever worried of smacking your sump again and it all leaking out without knowing  :undecided:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 December 2011, 20:54
Seat made a sport version for the Bam / AMK lump, these are as far as i know hard to find now. but were a shallower type and possibly stronger ? although can't remember

My ultimate choice would be the INA sump i mentioned before, but if i can make something similar id be happy.. it is a test and if this does not work we will have to look at the INA one

the caddy I'm working on is even worse.. sump is almost sat on floor with no lowering !!! and iv used special engine mounts the raise engine 9had to cut some supports off the underside of the bonnet!   this sumps also going to have to be modified
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 December 2011, 20:57
Remind me, what unit are you putting in the caddy?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 December 2011, 20:59
the owner of that car chose a AGU 20VT, which we have fitted a K03s to.. Looking for around 200 - 220hp with remap from this one..
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 December 2011, 21:05
the owner of that car chose a AGU 20VT, which we have fitted a K03s to.. Looking for around 200 - 220hp with remap from this one..
  Ah yes.... Surprised about the clearance issue on standard height!  There's been a few AGU mk1s around. Did it have a tall block motor in it before?  What was its original motor?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 December 2011, 21:06
Original motor was a some 1.6 petrol affair ( still have this, only done 90k!!)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 December 2011, 21:14
Original motor was a some 1.6 petrol affair ( still have this, only done 90k!!)

Hmmm, same mounting arrangement as GTI isn't it?.   Is an AGU really that much taller than say a DX engine?

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 December 2011, 21:29
I'm using custom modified GTI mounts so yeah and it must be, TBH its ok at the mo, but the car is on stilts haha (put it this way i can lay under it with no axle stands and no jack!!)

but i can only just get my head under the sump (head touches it)

Owner wants this caddy as low as my golf.. gonna be fun!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: golf-sib on 15 December 2011, 21:32
So when you getting TFSI coil packs in, we need a 1.8T guinea pig  :grin:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5280361-2.0T-Coilpacks-and-spark-plug-gap-trying-random-new-stuff.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 December 2011, 21:34
So when you getting TFSI coil packs in, we need a 1.8T guinea pig  :grin:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5280361-2.0T-Coilpacks-and-spark-plug-gap-trying-random-new-stuff.

very soon mate, making my own adapter plate (or ben is) and we hope to offer this for sale soon

i will let you know how it all goes.. should be soon
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: golf-sib on 15 December 2011, 21:43
So when you getting TFSI coil packs in, we need a 1.8T guinea pig  :grin:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5280361-2.0T-Coilpacks-and-spark-plug-gap-trying-random-new-stuff.

very soon mate, making my own adapter plate (or ben is) and we hope to offer this for sale soon

i will let you know how it all goes.. should be soon

I know bill at badger 5 is going to test them, but there's various dyno runs and adapters ready available, just the dyno's people post seem to contradict each other at the moment, be interesting to see the real results from a more concise test
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 December 2011, 21:43
I'm using custom modified GTI mounts so yeah and it must be, TBH its ok at the mo, but the car is on stilts haha (put it this way i can lay under it with no axle stands and no jack!!)

but i can only just get my head under the sump (head touches it)

Owner wants this caddy as low as my golf.. gonna be fun!

My cars low but not drastically as I never want to bottom out when I do get the rare chance to give it some sh*t down some bendy, hilly roads.

With the height it is now the sump clearance isn't great to be honest and that's with the engine tilted backwards!  But I am blessed with a steel sump at least.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 December 2011, 21:47
On the Caddy Conversion - the mounts we have had made, tilt the engine backwards, i had to chop parts of the bonnet off for it to clear the Throttle body  (this stuff should really be kept in the Caddy build tho )

I will be updating the Caddy thread after W/end, but theirs some pics of the engine in the bay already up
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 December 2011, 21:49
On the Caddy Conversion - the mounts we have had made, tilt the engine backwards, i had to chop parts of the bonnet off for it to clear the Throttle body  (this stuff should really be kept in the Caddy build tho )

I will be updating the Caddy thread after W/end, but theirs some pics of the engine in the bay already up


Sorry, you mentioned the Caddy in here, you know how it goes.  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 December 2011, 22:14
 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2011, 18:10
Got my Strengthened Sump back, and its now fitted to the car.. didn't get picks of it fitted as the Phone battery died, will get some on monday this when I'm next with the car.. left it in a warehouse till monday for the sealant to set

anyhow, 5mm plating of some of the strongest steel around, can't remember what he said it was but it won't rust and will take a lot of beatings  :grin:

He also filled in all the cracks i had from the inside before he did the plating.

Im well please with this and look forward to giving it a good test..  dropping 2 more Sumps off on Monday

i only waned one small strip  just in front of the sump plug area of about a inch wide as its only this part that takes the beating form the road due to the angle of how the sump sites. but he has made the plate go right over on to the shallow half, which is a bonus.

Some pics

(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2031/imagesuc.jpg)

(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2469/imagezhp.jpg)

(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2456/imagevbhe.jpg)

(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5857/imagezbp.jpg)

(http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/8581/imageksc.jpg)

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/249/imagegho.jpg)

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6114/imageyke.jpg)

(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1456/imagersul.jpg)

(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2051/imageppl.jpg)

(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9720/imagepkx.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tech1889 on 16 December 2011, 18:15
so its not just boggo steel checkerplate ??

Looks really good i hope it helps mate
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2011, 18:16
no mate coz that will rust.. he said a name.. ill ask him and let you know.. although I'm not too bothered about aesthetics to be honest.. this is the Mule Sump  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 16 December 2011, 18:17
what's the idea behind checkerplate over flat steel?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2011, 18:28
what's the idea behind checkerplate over flat steel?

did you see earlier in the thread??  the sump has been hitting the floor and worn through, resulting in loss of all oil

this is to help aid strength.. and thats all
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 16 December 2011, 18:39
i mean as in reinforcing with plain sheet over checkered sheet

my thinking is that whatever scrapes on the sump will now catch on the checker and cause a bigger impact! might be worth grinding the raised bits off, at least it will just scrape then
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2011, 18:42
did think of grinding the edges but didn't want to weaken it, TBH, its not bad at all, 5mm over standard to be exact lol.. and the bits that catch are not the parts that are where the welds are, so grinding down isn't really going to help

Car is too low, but i wanna keep it this way.. its my bad if it happens again but I'm interested to see how this fairs before i do any more mods to it
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 16 December 2011, 19:10
not the edges, the checker pattern!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2011, 19:30
not the edges, the checker pattern!

Hmm maybe, ill see how it gets on  :smiley:

as i say, this is a Mule :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 16 December 2011, 20:40
 :undecided: on one hand the plate will no doubt help but on the other hand have you now not made the problem worse by making the sump even lower to the road.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2011, 20:42
theirs only 5mm more than standard

Could not have a full undercover plate for the reason you mention

The INA sump i like is taller than standard but stronger. mine is now the same but not as tall as the INA version... so we will see, only time will tell
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 17 December 2011, 16:46
:undecided: on one hand the plate will no doubt help but on the other hand have you now not made the problem worse by making the sump even lower to the road.

My thoughts exactly and then some... As well as what's already been mentioned my problem is this:

5mm is a lot in your case, plus the thickness of the protruding welds that are now easier to catch in area's that weren't before now.

The sump plug is vulnerable

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5725/imageevo.jpg)

Looking at the new one surely this area has the exact same risk and is even more likely to be caught now.

(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9720/imagepkx.jpg)


 :undecided:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 December 2011, 17:07
lots of negativity on this forum as usual lol :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: benvictors on 17 December 2011, 17:13
Think the idea of the plate is to stop the sump from cracking/splitting, if.... sorry, when it bottoms out  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 17 December 2011, 17:18
lots of negativity on this forum as usual lol :grin:

Nooooo not at all, there is no point just saying how amazing it is if there are honest doubts on how effective this will be. The effort put into this is good and I hope for your sake it works but there is no denying that this is more likely to catch the ground over the standard one that's all. Yes it will be stronger but the extra strength appears to come at a price.  You may as well of raised the front by 5mm (which i know you don't want to do) which would have given 10mm more clearance than what you have now.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 17 December 2011, 17:22
Think the idea of the plate is to stop the sump from cracking/splitting, if.... sorry, when it bottoms out  :wink:

Yeah I get that. But it's more likely to catch now and if it catches on something nasty then I dread to think how it would react now the base is more rigid...  I just have a phobia of things catching the ground at speed.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: benvictors on 17 December 2011, 17:29
I know what ya saying Shaun, I think Brad just needs to keep a better look out for pot holes  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 17 December 2011, 17:38
I know what ya saying Shaun, I think Brad just needs to keep a better look out for pot holes  :grin: :grin:

A big problem in Leeds isn't it?... Although my experience on Sheffield roads is far worse.  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: benvictors on 17 December 2011, 17:50
I know what ya saying Shaun, I think Brad just needs to keep a better look out for pot holes  :grin: :grin:

A big problem in Leeds isn't it?... Although my experience on Sheffield roads is far worse.  :laugh:

Mate, the roads are sh!tE!!!! I reckon alot of people think im pissed on my 6 mile journey to work because im forever weeving in and out of pot holes, Brad takes literally the same route so I feel for him as his sump is around 30mm (35mm now  :grin:) lower than mine  :cry:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 December 2011, 18:12
will see how it goes with this sump, the guy says the welds are strong.. as i have said more than once this is a Mule sump.. i don't mind it taking a beating..just don't want it to crack open..

Pot holes are terrible round here, but me having things on my mind of late has maybe made me have a lapse in concentration of the humps and bumps in the road LOL!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 17 December 2011, 18:58
I would raise the ride height

I love slammed cars but sometimes there needs to be line where performance needs to be in balance with looks

This morning i have been driving a mk4 1.8T with 280Bhp, the car was amazing with all the power but driving it on country roads really spoilt it for me, it was banging and catching on every defect on the road, on the motorway it was amazing.

Im not saying make it look like a scared cat but make the car more enjoyable to drive with the superb engine you have under the bonnet

OR

GET AIR

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 17 December 2011, 20:43
kinda agree with the above tbh, a stronger sump is always a good ting but surely the soloution is to stop it hitting in the first place  :undecided:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 December 2011, 09:57
You sound like my dad  :grin:



Update on the sump.

Today I managed to give it a test. It said hello to the floor and the result is:

Sump: 1
Floor: Nil

Not a mark on the sump!!  Lucky ? I dunno but so far so good
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: daz veedub on 21 December 2011, 10:52
You sound like my dad  :grin:



Update on the sump.

Today I managed to give it a test. It said hello to the floor and the result is:

Sump: 1
Floor: Nil

Not a mark on the sump!!  Lucky ? I dunno but so far so good

result mate  :cool: :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Diamond Hell on 21 December 2011, 10:52
I reckon alot of people think im pissed on my 6 mile journey to work because im forever weeving in and out of pot holes, Brad takes literally the same route so I feel for him as his sump is around 30mm (35mm now  :grin:) lower than mine  :cry:

Basically you're saying the way you drive is erratic and dangerous because your car is not fit for purpose and thus not safe.

kinda agree with the above tbh, a stronger sump is always a good ting but surely the soloution is to stop it hitting in the first place  :undecided:

You're missing the point of Brad Kells - the triumph of stupidity and dogmatic nature over common sense.

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: golf-sib on 21 December 2011, 11:52
Here we go again, where's my popcorn.

Can't you settle it with a race between your mk3's?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 December 2011, 12:08
Try have a happy Xmas Thomas  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 21 December 2011, 12:21
Here we go again, where's my popcorn.

Can't you settle it with a race between your mk3's?

Now that would be amazing. :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 December 2011, 12:23
I'll give him a week head start  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Horney on 21 December 2011, 12:43
Depends on distance. If it was LE - JOG my money would be on DH.

Nick
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 21 December 2011, 12:46
How about some Pikes Peak action as well?  :tongue:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Diamond Hell on 21 December 2011, 12:50
Can't you settle it with a race between your mk3's?

Sure - it'll involve bends, unsurfaced roads and roads with potholes and speed bumps.  

You know, roads you find in Brad's beloved 'real world'

:grin:

I'll take the week head start - it'll give me time to go get a tow truck when I've finished, so I can drag his car off the imperfections in the road.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 21 December 2011, 12:56
(http://chriskendall.eu/archive/otherstuff/popcorn.gif)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 21 December 2011, 13:46
Pahahahahaha.  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: PenguinGTI on 21 December 2011, 13:53
I was wondering when this would start up again. Bring on the festive entertainment  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 December 2011, 15:01
Wow feel the Xmas love :grin:

He is even gonna go to the trouble of getting me towed out of trouble :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 21 December 2011, 17:23
Regardless of the comments, I would be really frustrated if I had a tuned car but couldn't confidently give it some beans down a challenging road.   :undecided: Each to their own though I guess.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 December 2011, 17:25
i can give it beans..as much as i like

only ever caught 4 times in the whole time the engines been in and i drive this car lots.. everyday..  it is only very extreme cases where its hit.. i can drive it as hard as i like, the arches are modified so it never catches their.. i love it :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 21 December 2011, 17:30
I knew your arches were OK but I thought the sump would be a right confidence knocker.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 December 2011, 17:33
haha confidence knocker, i like it

na not really. country roads are fine, hard cornering is fine, speed bumps are fine (if taken at correct angle) 95% of roads are fine..

Once you learn how to drive it, its pretty easy to know where u can and can't give it the "all"

Whats not fine is big potholes, Highly raised manhole covers on roads that have been skimmed for resurfacing etc and damaged roads where theirs very big humps and bumps..
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Diamond Hell on 21 December 2011, 17:37
Whats not fine is big potholes, Highly raised manhole covers on roads that have been skimmed for resurfacing etc and damaged roads where theirs very big humps and bumps..

Thank heavens these are so rarely encountered on UK roads, eh?

Do you have a chocolate teapot and a fish with tits to match your car?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 December 2011, 17:52
No I'm afraid i don't.. 
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: travisreeve on 22 December 2011, 00:21
Iv had many of lowerd cars.. Speed bumps are called speed bumps for a reason to reduce speed and no fool drives over potholes.. So no matter if your low or not its still guna make no diffrence and if your on about racing on public roads then this race would be a draw as for sticking to speed limits it to be accounted for  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Diamond Hell on 22 December 2011, 09:14
I see all of Norfolk's wit and intellect has taken some time out to join the thread.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 22 December 2011, 09:28
I see all of Norfolk's wit and intellect has taken some time out to join the thread.

It needed it.  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: travisreeve on 22 December 2011, 10:40
Bloody carrott crunchers  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Khare on 22 December 2011, 10:46
Whats not fine is big potholes, Highly raised manhole covers on roads that have been skimmed for resurfacing etc and damaged roads where theirs very big humps and bumps..

Think that's bad? Try going to Sao Paulo, what you described is a normal road there. 85% of people on this forum would not be able to drive their cars there without either beaching themselves or leaving a bumper behind.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 22 December 2011, 12:31
Whats not fine is big potholes, Highly raised manhole covers on roads that have been skimmed for resurfacing etc and damaged roads where theirs very big humps and bumps..

Think that's bad? Try going to Sao Paulo, what you described is a normal road there. 85% of people on this forum would not be able to drive their cars there without either beaching themselves or leaving a bumper behind.

I refuse to go to Sao Paulo to look at pot holes

And Edinburgh is the worst UK city for em I recon
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Khare on 23 December 2011, 01:28
I refuse to go to Sao Paulo to look at pot holes

Why not? It'd be a great holiday. Pot hole sight seeing  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 24 December 2011, 16:58
Cheers to shady for the Calendar spot  :wink:

(http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/9162/imageohe.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: mark-mk3gti on 24 December 2011, 17:49
Cheers to shady for the Calendar spot  :wink:

(http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/9162/imageohe.jpg)

Your December on mine!  :undecided:
Has Kirk done individual ones for each of us?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 24 December 2011, 18:01
 :grin:

No Mark, the one he has posted is the All MK calendar.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 24 December 2011, 18:34
 :grin: :grin: :grin:

yea the one i have is the one with all MKs..   :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: DanChave on 25 December 2011, 00:08
The calender looks sweet man :)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 29 December 2011, 18:05
Well Awesome GTI store came up trumps with super fast delivery of my New Forge 008 DV

The one i have on currently is a non Forge item, but metal, it was fine but has started to leak!!

So i thought id give the all new 008 a try

I went for the Stealth Black version as i don't like Bling.. first impressions of it are good, typical Forge build quality.. wish they had used Black bolts on the top tho.. think i may swap these to black for fully stealth look :cool:

anyhow here are the pics of it, will fit it tomo and give my thoughts on it

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9120/imagevrj.jpg)

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7145/imagelicl.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: T_J_G on 29 December 2011, 19:31
Typical Forge build quality, was that a compliment :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Mikester on 29 December 2011, 20:31
At first glance i thought the forge silver badge was a sticky one for the car, but is that a KEY RING? You have got to use that... if you can find pockets big enough to fit it in!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 30 December 2011, 12:32
Their is a sticker and a Keyring

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8021/imagehgvp.jpg)

I won't be using either.

Old next to the 008

(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7820/imagegcw.jpg)

Fitted

(http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/5764/imagelxrk.jpg)

can't see it  :nerd:

(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1980/imagembj.jpg)

Sounds good, deffinetly performs better than the one i used to have, seems to hold boost longer  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: stow1985 on 30 December 2011, 20:54
Engine bay looks soooo nice...

are they after market top mount covers? 
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: scottv6 on 30 December 2011, 21:13
what are the signs of it leaking mate, mine seems to be holding up well so far.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 30 December 2011, 23:25
Top mount covers are DIY i modified them

the DV that i had WASNT LEAKING !!!!!!  well it was but iv seen what the issue was, the longest leg on this type is screwed in, and it was loose, maybe the high boost made it work loose, bad design that would be solved if it was 1 piece or had a thread lock on it.

scott check yours or put some thread lock on it.. gonna use my old one on the caddy I'm converting :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 30 December 2011, 23:40
So is it worth pulling it apart and putting some loctite on it. :undecided:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 30 December 2011, 23:42
well yeah, on the pic, the longer leg of the 2 is threaded and was loose, it was not like this when i fitted it, i thought it was all 1 piece !!!

iv now sorted it so its easy to go on the caddy.. the 008 holds boost a lot better than the old one ever did tho
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 30 December 2011, 23:45
well yeah, on the pic, the longer leg of the 2 is threaded and was loose, it was not like this when i fitted it, i thought it was all 1 piece !!!

iv now sorted it so its easy to go on the caddy.. the 008 holds boost a lot better than the old one ever did tho

I will check mine over the weekend and let you know.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 31 December 2011, 00:15
yea do, iv put some thread lock on it. I can only think the high boost I'm running has made it loose, plus the hard ride of the suspension maybe ?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: mark-mk3gti on 03 January 2012, 17:54
Happy new year mate! Hope it went well!

What's the part number on the strut top covers? Couldn't find it on etka,

Cheers
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 11 February 2012, 16:56
gonna bump this up to the top again :-)

Car has been at Carbon and they have done a map that took near 2 weeks to complete.. The only way i can explain this is ballistic!!

over 300ibft and 252bhp  (in shootout mode setting on the Dyno dynamics rollers, Craig thinks around the 280 bhp mark in normal readings)

anyhow.. the car feels like it has about twice this power. it really is brutal.. nick at carbon has told me the chassis is at its limits now and any more power will result in the car not been as fast to drive (getting the actual power down etc)

And today, just to confirm the brutality of this car we had a little test with some guys local to us that also do conversions

their car:

MK3 GTI with AMK engine, Emerald standalone ECU with K04 Hybrid.. 320 BHP

My car has same engine (AMK) and the K04 it came with (not hybrid)  but has the superb carbon map


the results :

a massive WIN for F17BAD.. the car is much better to drive, pulls much harder, spools faster and holds on to the boost a zillion times better.. it is like a contest between me and the car to who is gonna give up first..either me letting off the throttle or the car running out of puff.. the car wins every time!!!!!

the lads with the other Mk3 thought mine had a big turbo conversion and around 350 bhp!! :shocked:   :laugh: :grin:
This really does prove some bhp readings mean f**k all

F17BAD is a true lethal machine and i need to treat it with the respect it deserves or ill end up dead or banned...


Do i go big Turbo and risk spoiling this fantastic set up.... ???

Next up is Gearbox work, LSD etc...

Massive shouts out to Nick and Craig at Carbon..  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Diamond Hell on 11 February 2012, 19:17
F17BAD is a true lethal machine and i need to treat it with the respect it deserves or ill end up dead or banned...

We can only pray he continues to treat it with the respect he speaks of, can't we?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 11 February 2012, 19:21
gonna bump this up to the top again :-)

Car has been at Carbon and they have done a map that took near 2 weeks to complete.. The only way i can explain this is ballistic!!

over 300ibft and 252 bhp  (in shootout mode setting on the Dyno dynamics rollers, Craig thinks around the 280 bhp mark in normal readings)

anyhow.. the car feels like it has about twice this power. it really is brutal.. nick at carbon has told me the chassis is at its limits now and any more power will result in the car not been as fast to drive (getting the actual power down etc)

And today, just to confirm the brutality of this car we had a little test with some guys local to us that also do conversions

their car:

MK3 GTI with AMK engine, Emerald standalone ECU with K04 Hybrid.. 320 BHP

My car has same engine (AMK) and the K04 it came with (not hybrid)  but has the superb carbon map


the results :

a massive WIN for F17BAD.. the car is much better to drive, pulls much harder, spools faster and holds on to the boost a zillion times better.. it is like a contest between me and the car to who is gonna give up first..either me letting off the throttle or the car running out of puff.. the car wins every time!!!!!

the lads with the other Mk3 thought mine had a big turbo conversion and around 350 bhp!! :shocked:   :laugh: :grin:
This really does prove some bhp readings mean f**k all

F17BAD is a true lethal machine and i need to treat it with the respect it deserves or ill end up dead or banned...


Do i go big Turbo and risk spoiling this fantastic set up.... ???

Next up is Gearbox work, LSD etc...

Massive shouts out to Nick and Craig at Carbon..  :cool:

(http://www.coolstorybro.co/image/393-riveting-tale-cool-story-bro-image.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: stow1985 on 12 February 2012, 09:31
If the set up is that fantastic why even think about changing it?  :huh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 12 February 2012, 09:46
What would be the point of more power if it cannot already cope with what it is running  :huh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: stow1985 on 12 February 2012, 09:52
What would be the point of more power if it cannot already cope with what it is running  :huh:

That's what I was thinking!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: The Doc on 12 February 2012, 10:08
LSD then we'll see  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 12 February 2012, 10:58
Torque makes a car a handful. And a k04 puts a big lump of it in low to midrange. Thats why a car with less max power can be a faster.

People get too hung up on pub hp numbers and less about torque and driveabily. Obviously carbon did a good job on this. And I'd prefer to have it done on a 'heartbreakes' DD dyno than one that can inflate my ego. :afro:  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: bobbarley on 12 February 2012, 12:46
:afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VW BUSH on 12 February 2012, 13:00
Sounds like a trip to the Pod is in order this summer :smiley:

Best guess for 1/4 time wins a carrot :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: The Doc on 12 February 2012, 14:21
Sounds like a trip to the Pod is in order this summer :smiley:

Best guess for 1/4 time wins a carrot :grin:

Carbon would be proud to sponsor "the carrot of SFA"  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VW BUSH on 12 February 2012, 14:45
Sounds like a trip to the Pod is in order this summer :smiley:

Best guess for 1/4 time wins a carrot :grin:

Carbon would be proud to sponsor "the carrot of SFA"  :grin:

The Carbon Carrot Comp Cup Run
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 February 2012, 15:52
Cheers for the replays guys

and as ever cheers for the hate/ negativity from the usual goons  :grin:

The point to modifying the car more is to showcase what myself and ben can do.. the GT28 upgrade i have in mind will be a home made design (apart from the actual turbo)  and something i could possibly offer for sale at a really good price..it would fit the Audi S3. TT and the LCR which has the AMK / BAM engines...

Does it now make more sense ? ?

Russ (TShirt2k) as ever you are bang on point :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 12 February 2012, 17:45
If it's perfect, why change it?

What would you do to bring the chassis up to scratch with the engine if you went big turbo?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 February 2012, 17:57
LSD (quaiffe)

decent strut braces

Big brake kit


and a really good map from carbon.. 


TBH i do like the car as it is.. i really do and i am scared that doing more will spoil it... i just have the itch and i wanna scratch it LOL
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 12 February 2012, 18:11
You'd probably need to think about some 888's or similar if you want to pursue more power.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 February 2012, 18:12
I will be deffo doing the rods, big turbo or not...  plus a high flow manifold is on the cards soon
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: funkyfive on 12 February 2012, 19:57
Brad is mad!!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 February 2012, 21:21
Brad is mad!!!

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Diamond Hell on 12 February 2012, 21:24
and as ever cheers for the hate/ negativity from the usual goons  :grin:

I'm just saying you're a big man and your car's going to get out of shape.

If it does (because you're being an idiot) you can only pray there's not a welcoming oak waiting for you.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: bobbarley on 12 February 2012, 21:27
Hardly any difference between building up a car to have 250bhp, and buying a car that already has 250bhp.  Doesn't make one more or less likely to be involved in an accident.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Diamond Hell on 12 February 2012, 21:49
Hardly any difference between building up a car to have 250bhp, and buying a car that already has 250bhp. 

Utter tosh.

Think about the safety aids that today's 250bhp cars have vs this little tugboat with its enormous appendage.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VW BUSH on 12 February 2012, 21:53
LSD (quaiffe)

decent strut braces

Big brake kit


and a really good map from carbon.. 


TBH i do like the car as it is.. i really do and i am scared that doing more will spoil it... i just have the itch and i wanna scratch it LOL



I remember you bought this car for £600 notes and was not going to do much to it except run it as an extension to your vinyl box.
Then every week you posted some little tweak or subtle mod making it into a very clean example of a MK3.
You never slagged off the 8v engine or the handling, but have now changed all of that.
Now I know Adam better than I know you but I am thinking this car will be another completely different animal in another 6 years, probably sitting in the garage next to your Swift unless you meet the afore mentioned Oak tree, take care Brad  :grin:



Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 February 2012, 22:12
LSD (quaiffe)

decent strut braces

Big brake kit


and a really good map from carbon.. 


TBH i do like the car as it is.. i really do and i am scared that doing more will spoil it... i just have the itch and i wanna scratch it LOL



I remember you bought this car for £600 notes and was not going to do much to it except run it as an extension to your vinyl box.
Then every week you posted some little tweak or subtle mod making it into a very clean example of a MK3.
You never slagged off the 8v engine or the handling, but have now changed all of that.
Now I know Adam better than I know you but I am thinking this car will be another completely different animal in another 6 years, probably sitting in the garage next to your Swift unless you meet the afore mentioned Oak tree, take care Brad  :grin:






haha you seem to know how i roll very well and your not the 1st person to say all this

only time will tell i guess, the swift stayed because it was the first car i ever got, learnt to drive in and also mainly because it holds some very very special memories for me and some of my friends for things that happened in our past.
This includes the death of my best friend (aged 18 at the time)..

The Golf on the other hand also means a lot to me but for other reasons.. it was bought for the reasons you mention above originally and also because i was almost bankrupt at the time of purchase.. i lost my house to a Ex and i was in 30k debt, the golf was cheap and looked ok, it had 5 doors and was flat black with no rust.. and thats what i needed (5 doors for the Airport run for guest DJs i had booked for my events) i knew with my OCD i could make it look like a good un (for a mk3)


5 years on we are here. Iv almost fully rebuilt this car myself, the only part i didn't do is spray the paint on!, i did however build it back up and did the machine polishing. The car is like a part of me now and it would be hard to let it go
 it has been the best and most reliable VW iv had.. and as good a car in terms of reliability as the Swift always was.

what i like best abut this car tho is the way it always manages to put a smile on my face if I'm ever in a sh!te mood  :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 12 February 2012, 22:20
Why are you explaining yourself mate?  :huh: Your sig says it all!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 February 2012, 22:25
yeah.. why am i  :rolleyes: f**k it to the hate   :grin: :laugh:

will send you that part at dinner tomo mate, will give it  a clean for you before i send it  :cool:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: The Doc on 12 February 2012, 22:53
I'd do the LSD and leave it there mate, then start another project - Bog standard looks but a mad house under the bonnet - you do the petrol, we'll to the dirty derv?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 February 2012, 23:00
we have a MK2 GTI rolling shell.. needs a lot of work tho as it is very rough now. wanted to do something with that but i fear it could be too far gone

what sort of mad house you got in mind Craig  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: stow1985 on 12 February 2012, 23:52
Hey I wasn't hatting...just saying...

time will tell, I'm sure if you continue it will end to ways:

1 "This car is better than before so glad I done it...

or

2 "Boll*cks, wish I'd left the car as it was   :grin:

You've already made a incredible mk3, but if you can make it better good luck.
 
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 13 February 2012, 09:14


You've already made a incredible mk3, but if you can make it better good luck.
 

Thanks man :-)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 13 February 2012, 11:11
Damon. Are you a ugly boy?  :huh: just trying to understand where it all comes from?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 13 February 2012, 11:19
What about a set of these?

(http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/uploads/monthly_11_2010/post-28078-12903085092607_thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: daz veedub on 13 February 2012, 11:51
you only live once man and he makes you happy keep up the good work mate   :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 13 February 2012, 18:43
As entertaining as ever

cheers to those who support!  :wink:

right, after chatting to my Mate Russ, we have decided to use the Gearbox that came off my dads old engine as they are much stronger thn the MK3 boxes.. the ratios are all the same as mine apart from the final drive which is shorter but I'm actually wanting to swap mine out for a VR6 FD so ill do that to the MK4 box and have the Quaiffe LSD fitted too.. this means i can run my car without taking it off the road while i sort the new box out

I also have the MK4 gear linkages etc too which ill be using and I'm gonna update the tower to the TT short shift while I'm at it

Here is the Box that is to gonna go from Zero to Hero :grin:

02J.. EMR code

will look like brand new soon as i shake my OCD stick at it  :laugh: :cool:

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2376/imagefev.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 13 February 2012, 21:17
Shorter final drive WILL piss you off, why dont you just wait for the right box to come up?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 13 February 2012, 21:28
Shorter final drive WILL piss you off, why dont you just wait for the right box to come up?

READ!!!! :grin:

the ratios are the exact same as my ABF box, apart from final drive.. i was going to change the final drive in my ABF box to a VR6 one anyhow as i feel its not long enough at the mo in 5th gear.. so i will put the VR final drive into the stronger MK4 box and it will be the exact same as what the ABF one would have been with the VR6 FD installed in it

I also know this MK4 box has had a very very easy life as it was in my dads car he had from new, plus i have the new style shifter which is much more precise than the MK3 type

will hang on to the ABF box as a spare tho

means i can prep the new box without taking the car off the road.. i was going to source another ABF box and do all this anyhow until i fond out the MK4 box is a better unit!  bit of a bonus really as i was gonna sell it

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: RandomJord on 13 February 2012, 21:30
Damon. Are you a ugly boy?  :huh: just trying to understand where it all comes from?

Who the f**k is Damon?  :huh:

....your journey with the MK3 is nearly at an end.... get on with a MK2  :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 13 February 2012, 22:52
been too busy lately for forums mate so not really seen

i don't get any hassle on ED38 tho, never have, everone seems to love what i am doing to the 3..

i think CGTI is the best site, theirs no bull sh!t over their, just people with a love for cars.. even non Vag.. i kind of like that about the site

shame this site has become what it has.. you would think people could respect the work thats gone into my Mk3.. even more so this is a daily drive.. even used in the snow and still cuts it with the best u will see in a show and shine!!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Lewy on 13 February 2012, 23:16
Yes you're right, it is like a playground on here sometimes, but my mum always told me to ignore the bullies and the name callers (I was a damn good looking young man, they were jealous!) because in the end they get bored of the lack of retaliation, and fcuk off.

If you don't appreciate a comment made about you or your car, report it and one of us will try and do something about it.

Lewy
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 13 February 2012, 23:22
who are you calling a numpty, douche bag ?

If you're gonna chat back at someone pointing out your spelling mistakes at least try and check your use of the English language the 2nd time.

Nick

Said Mr. Horney.  :grin: :kiss:

 :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 13 February 2012, 23:24
lewy, cheers mate.. I'm not that bothered about the comments towards me or the car. I'm happy with the car and I'm confident with my self too

i just don't see the point  of the repeat ball bags comments form certain members.. not good for others to see and its cluttering up my dub ride thread i set up about the car..and not about my love for Adidas or thomas and his hate for everything thats me..

Thomas is a Moderator on here.. he posts up some really un called for crap.. my point is, you don't see me doing this on his threads.. i know you don't even need me to say this sh!t.. it does need to stop tho.
id rather him set up a thread elsewhere just aimed at slagin me off if thats what he wants rather than on this thread about the car build
Not arsed what his opinions are. we all already know them.

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Lewy on 13 February 2012, 23:35
lewy, cheers mate.. I'm not that bothered about the comments towards me or the car. I'm happy with the car and I'm confident with my self too

Thank god for that, because I think you and your car have funny eyes!!   :laugh:   :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 13 February 2012, 23:36
 :grin: :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: scarr89 on 15 February 2012, 17:15
Just joining this thread, and really CBA to read all 200+ pages  :smiley:

Basically, I read bigger brakes? Talk to me? We talking cayenne 6 pots?!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: gtiballs61 on 15 February 2012, 18:58
Cars looking good Brad :cool:
Keep up the hard work fella.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 February 2012, 19:32
Cheers mate

busy collecting parts for the Gearbox revamp to further improve the drive of the car

As said previously its the box from a MK4 GTI 2.08v, ratios are the same as my current MK3 16v box however the MK4 boxes are much stronger so it will cope better with the power hike the cars had!

Code EMR 02J

(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6691/imagekvi.jpg)

I have put this on the scales (still full of oil) just out of interest to see the weight

(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6554/imagekqfx.jpg)

40.25 KG

started preparing the new box ready for refurb.. got a bit more to do before it can be painted, however this won't take place till i receive it back from having some alterations made to its insides,  :cool:

was full of bad dirt etc

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2376/imagefev.jpg)

got bits stripped off, and collected all part numbers for nuts/ bolts and other parts to be replaced for aesthetics and better performance.. including TT short shift for the tower which iv removed ready to refurb also

got most the dirt off, it will be treated once more tomorrow then as soon as i get it back from a rebuild with my LSD and different Final drive ill give it a nice coat of paint as per the box thats currently fitted

(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2913/imageqly.jpg)

More to come soon
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: golf-sib on 15 February 2012, 20:26
You going for 5/6speed set?

I've seen some lads swapping in cogs from the TDI's, whats the plan to lengthen the overall ratio or just a particular gear?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 15 February 2012, 22:10
He's sticking a VR6 final drive in the new box as far as I'm aware.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 15 February 2012, 22:17
Nice work dude :cool:

I would be inclined to stick a 6speed box in there.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 February 2012, 23:00
cheers matey  :wink:

I did think of using a 6 speed from Cupra R, but its heavy and i kind of like the brutality of how the ratios are now, just needs a little bit longer in 5th and i think it will be perfect for me and improve the overall drivability (its done the clock with the current box and my clocks go to 160MPH.) but it was on redline almost so it does need the extra legs that the VR final drive will offer.. its not every day the car is gonna see those speeds anyhow

Iv spoke to a lot of peoples opinions i trust and that combined with me liking it as it is now has made me decide on the set up ill try

also fitting a quaffe LSD to improve things further

not cheap but needed

Not going to lie. the car is a bit of a handful and a tad scary to say the least...
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 18 February 2012, 14:26
Not checked in on here for a while looking good :) Didn't realise you were running with the same box as mine though the torque must be mental! tshirtk2 has been helping me understand about my ratios and what I need to get what I want so I guess you must know the same.

I'm gonna be putting an ASD 02a into mine early next week, sounds similar to what your going for ratio wise, same ratios as 16v but longer fifth and taller final drive. Looking forward to seeing the results :)

Are you alraedy using the mk4 shifter and tower?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 18 February 2012, 16:53
Hi mate, yea its a bit mental in mine at the mo, i am running MK3 tower and shifter at the mo but have the MK4 full set up here along with the box  :cool:

let me know how you get on with your choice of set up  :smiley:

Other news, had a spare 5 hours to kill so gave the car a full detailing and protection against the elements

here is a few pics of the results


(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7719/imagegtf.jpg)

(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4926/imageklv.jpg)

(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/159/imageroa.jpg)

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5269/imageosx.jpg)

(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7766/imagenzi.jpg)

(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/3093/imagefjl.jpg)

(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4163/imageeod.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2567/imagecqt.jpg)

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7761/imagepcl.jpg)

(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/8201/imagecau.jpg)

(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/145/imagefmg.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 18 February 2012, 16:58
Damn that's looking sooooo clean! Top marks mate.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 18 February 2012, 16:59
thanks mate. not bad for a 19 year old daily driver  :nerd: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 18 February 2012, 17:12
you missed a bit.  :lipsrsealed:  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: trog_nfs on 18 February 2012, 18:26
Looks pretty tip top dude!

Have you considered Guy's rear aero wiper mod though?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 18 February 2012, 19:03
Looks pretty tip top dude!

Have you considered Guy's rear aero wiper mod though?


hate the bmw rear wiper mate, it looks wrong coz it goes over the VW badge
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 18 February 2012, 19:20
id loose the wiper  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: trog_nfs on 18 February 2012, 20:11
Looks pretty tip top dude!

Have you considered Guy's rear aero wiper mod though?


hate the bmw rear wiper mate, it looks wrong coz it goes over the VW badge

Fair do's  :smiley:
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Post by: daz veedub on 18 February 2012, 20:15
looks fecking awesome brad  :cool:
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Post by: Steve_PD on 18 February 2012, 20:18
One of the best mk3's :cool: :afro:
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Post by: stow1985 on 18 February 2012, 20:59
So damn clean! :cool:

Just to give my pennies worth, i'd leave the wiper on!

Good thinking with gear box too, do you know how much the mk3 weighs?
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 February 2012, 22:13
Cheers for comments guys  :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:


Not sure on weight Stow mate, thinking to take it to a weigh bridge that local to me jus for the sake of knowing haha :-)
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Post by: tweed on 18 February 2012, 22:19
19???
swap my vr for your recaros?
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Post by: Lewy on 18 February 2012, 22:23
Is this rusty old nail ever gonna make on a club stand at a show?

 :wink:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 18 February 2012, 22:28
Cheers for comments guys  :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:


Not sure on weight Stow mate, thinking to take it to a weigh bridge that local to me jus for the sake of knowing haha :-)

Then you can be a real geek and find out your BHP per Tonne  :grin:

I've always wanted to weigh mine for the same reason, just for the sake of knowing. (although I wouldn't bother working out the BHP bit just yet!)  :embarassed:

Is this rusty old nail ever gonna make on a club stand at a show?

 :wink:

Yeah god damn it.. Even my nail that doesn't get out anywhere near enough made it to a couple last year.   :rolleyes:
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Post by: stow1985 on 19 February 2012, 09:28
Cheers for comments guys  :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:


Not sure on weight Stow mate, thinking to take it to a weigh bridge that local to me jus for the sake of knowing haha :-)

Sorry should of made my self clearer...how much does the mk3 gearbox weigh  :rolleyes:

but it would be god to know the overall weight too  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 February 2012, 18:27
Cheers for the replies etc  :wink: :smiley:

Tweed, MJ would kill me if i let the Recaros go. and yes the car is 19 years old in August of this year.. :smiley:


Lewy, i hope to have it on some stands, I'm just not a member of no clubs  :sad:


Stow, i plan to weigh the MK3 16v box upon removal  :smiley:
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Post by: Wazzzer on 19 February 2012, 18:48
The thing I love most about this car is the way the engine looks like it was there when it rolled out the factory  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 February 2012, 18:56
The thing I love most about this car is the way the engine looks like it was there when it rolled out the factory  :cool:

cheers mate. i spent along time making sure it was fitted the way VW would have intended to if they were to have fitted it from the factory.. dare i say we went a bit further to make it a better fit with the Looms etc  :nerd:

To drive the car, you would also think it was fitted from new.. my mate who has owned 8 (yes 8) S3's with the same engine as this car was behind me the other day and he said my exhaust fumes even smell like a S3 haha.. (obviously they will do)

The whole car is about OEM + look
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Post by: dom on 19 February 2012, 19:11
Cheers for the replies etc  :wink: :smiley:

Tweed, MJ would kill me if i let the Recaros go. and yes the car is 19 years old in August of this year.. :smiley:


Lewy, i hope to have it on some stands, I'm just not a member of no clubs  :sad:


Stow, i plan to weigh the MK3 16v box upon removal  :smiley:

Fueled society clubstand :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 February 2012, 19:40
maybe matey yea, might have a stand of my own tho yet, but iv got my name down mate and will make sure you know whats going on  :smiley:
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Post by: murraymint on 19 February 2012, 19:51
This thing is super clean!! Wish I had the time/money/skills to do and have a mk3 like this,  :cool:
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Post by: Deano2711 on 20 February 2012, 10:55
Not very often we exchange compliments Brad but car looks  :cool:
Nice work Fella
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Post by: F17BAD on 20 February 2012, 20:18
Cheers Deano mate  :cool:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 21 February 2012, 00:17
This sites club stands????  :undecided:
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Post by: F17BAD on 21 February 2012, 16:41
This sites club stands????  :undecided:

when? where?

VW FESTIVAL, Harewood house ?
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Post by: Lewy on 23 February 2012, 18:04
Early Edition, 22nd of April?

No clubstand as such, but a gathering none-the-less.
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 February 2012, 18:39
Early Edition, 22nd of April?

No clubstand as such, but a gathering none-the-less.


im interested in this mate.

would be nice to say hello too :-)



In other news, iv decided to upgrade my braking to S3 spec due to my 280mm GTI brakes smoking badly every time i brake hard haha

think theirs just a lil buit too much power going through them now.

I have these S3 brakes which ill be refurbing to a High standard. these are the 312mm which just fit under 16" wheels (which is what i have)

(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9040/imagecgy.jpg)

Calipers are almost ready

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8138/imagebgl.jpg)


also gathered all the bolts and stuff i need to refresh my new gear box, including all the parts to convert the shift mech to the TT short shift

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1471/imagetjk.jpg)

The TT short shift weight

(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9710/imagefstw.jpg)

Refurbished the Tower off the new Gearbox

from this grubby affair
 
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/925/imagecfth.jpg)

to this:

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/213/imagehnc.jpg)

(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/3552/imagetky.jpg)

hope to have the Brake upgrade on soon as possible

Gearbox will more than likely be next month as i need to get my LSD, and then send it away too be fitted, then paint the gearbox housing etc


My 280mm brakes are FOR SALE, good quality Mintex Discs which are not that old, and matching pads, not sure how well the pads have survived tho

anyone who is interested et me know
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Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 23 February 2012, 19:13
kells why don't you try the gearbox out first? its a lot of money to be spending to decide you want different ratios!
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 February 2012, 19:19
kells why don't you try the gearbox out first? its a lot of money to be spending to decide you want different ratios!

ratios are exactly the same apart from final drive. which i planned to change to a VR one in mine anyhow so i don't need to

main reason for box rebuild is a LSD, either Wavetrack or quaife

trying to decide which
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 23 February 2012, 19:43
kells why don't you try the gearbox out first? its a lot of money to be spending to decide you want different ratios!

Those ratios won't work well on that engine. Would be good for a mk2/mk3 16v to make it more lively. But not for a high torque turbo motor.
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 February 2012, 19:51
kells why don't you try the gearbox out first? its a lot of money to be spending to decide you want different ratios!

Those ratios won't work well on that engine. Would be good for a mk2/mk3 16v to make it more lively. But not for a high torque turbo motor.

yeah i may swell keep the 16v gearbox over the new one if this was the case

having the MK4 box on the bench is great, i can rebuild it and just swap out for my old box without having the car off the road

plus the Mk4 boxes are stronger

Cheers to russ for the help on this.. i was going to sell this mk4 box..which is a good one as it was in my dads mk4 from brand new when he bought it.. never had a hard life... will have soon hahsa.. joking  :evil:

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Post by: stow1985 on 23 February 2012, 20:44
Good work again mate,

I saw a number plate the other day and instantly thought of you, 'S3 BAM'  :smug: it was on a ford tho  :rolleyes:

Not sure what size my breaks are, how do I find out? also how much do you want for the brakes?

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Post by: Seanl on 23 February 2012, 21:04
You've got a late mk3 stow, so yours are better than those at 288mm.
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 February 2012, 21:36
maybe Stow wants a piece of history with the old F17BAD anchors  :grin:

Yeah late cars are 288 so keep those? what year is the car ? ?
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Post by: stow1985 on 24 February 2012, 20:49
 :grin: :grin:

M - Plate, 1995
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 February 2012, 20:51
:grin: :grin:

M - Plate, 1995

yours is GTI aint it ?

u could have either 280 or 288 if so
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Post by: stow1985 on 24 February 2012, 20:52
Yeah GTI 8v, if that makes any difference  :undecided:
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 March 2012, 22:15
Today i fitted my Audi S3 brake set up.

312mm discs.

(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9040/imagecgy.jpg)

As updates previously iv refurbished these to a high standard :-)

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8138/imagebgl.jpg)

the upgrade is needed due to the bad smoking I'm getting from the  280mm set up (early MK3 GTI set up) under hard braking.

I chose to got for a decent pad on these, after lots of consideration i chose EBC Yellowstuff. These get really good reviews. It is a track day pad but has very good bite from cold too

It is a Kevlar / Ceramic compound

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9127/img2913v.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/img2913v.jpg/)

(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7229/img2914yd.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/img2914yd.jpg/)


Also had some braided lines made up from the Guys at HEL Performance.. got these at a superb deal with been a Club GTI member..  got Ben the Red ones for his MK3 too coz I'm a good mate like that
Mine are in the Carbon finish

(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/3006/img2921m.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/715/img2921m.jpg/)

(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/7712/img2922pu.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/img2922pu.jpg/)

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4950/img2932b.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/img2932b.jpg/)

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/7119/img2934pi.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/img2934pi.jpg/)

(Big Thanks to Ben @ HEL for sorting these)

We Had to make up some spacers to fit the bigger carriers to my hubs

(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/921/img2926a.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/img2926a.jpg/)

(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/116/img2927c.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/img2927c.jpg/)

(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4958/img2929t.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/img2929t.jpg/)

Here you can see the new spacers we made for the 312mm carriers, plus extended carrier bolts i sourced made from Super High Tensile steel. also added some washers.

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9179/img2930z.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/img2930z.jpg/)


280mm discs Versus the 312mm

(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6501/img2928i.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/img2928i.jpg/)



All fitted:

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4269/img2937sd.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/img2937sd.jpg/)

(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/4928/img2939i.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/img2939i.jpg/)

was dark, but will get more pics in the daylight when the car is all back together (wing is off on this picture)

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3376/img2943l.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/img2943l.jpg/)



Still bedding in, first though was not good as i had bad juddering!!, seems this is the RED compound stuff thats on the pads from the factory to help them bed in..

By the time i arrived home these bad boys were already showing what stopping abilities they will have..

so far its impressive stuff, will report back later  :cool:
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Post by: stow1985 on 10 March 2012, 22:32
Champion work!

Nice looking braided lines...are they better/more than the goodridge ones?

The Yellows pads look good behind the wheels, if your happy with, how about painting the callipers yellow too :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 March 2012, 22:37
i have Goodridge lines on my Swift, they are exactly the same if I'm honest.. came with new seals and bolts etc.. I'm impressed with them

I just want to keep the brakes Black as thats the theme of the car, iv also painted the centres of the discs and the outer rim Black too.. looks really good


Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: stow1985 on 10 March 2012, 22:42
i have Goodridge lines on my Swift, they are exactly the same if I'm honest.. came with new seals and bolts etc.. I'm impressed with them

I just want to keep the brakes Black as thats the theme of the car, iv also painted the centres of the discs and the outer rim Black too.. looks really good




I noticed that  :cool: I did that to the Mrs's car!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Seanl on 11 March 2012, 07:19
Good work, seems a bit pointless painting the hub of the disk though if you have mahoosive alloy spacers no?  :huh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 11 March 2012, 09:52
Good work, seems a bit pointless painting the hub of the disk though if you have mahoosive alloy spacers no?  :huh:

because i have OCD

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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 11 March 2012, 10:32
And discs look sh!te when covered in surface rust.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: stow1985 on 11 March 2012, 11:45
And discs look sh!te when covered in surface rust.

Like mine  :sick:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Seanl on 11 March 2012, 16:08
I understand why you did it, just wondered why you didn't paint the spacers too if your after the black look/theme mate.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 11 March 2012, 17:35
because they are Aluminium mate, so natural look is fine.. just don't want rusty brakes  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: funkyfive on 11 March 2012, 22:19
You have been busy fella!!!
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Post by: dragongreengolfgti on 11 March 2012, 22:24
looking good mate i need to tidy up my car over next few months  :smiley: you have inspired me  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 11 March 2012, 22:47
You have been busy fella!!!

yeah mate.. you know how it is, had a spare bit of time before we start another conversion so thought id get a bit done

sorry i didn't reply to the whats app other day, was full of oil.. the ones from TSR are not drilled, but i can get them drilled :-)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: funkyfive on 12 March 2012, 20:58
You have been busy fella!!!

yeah mate.. you know how it is, had a spare bit of time before we start another conversion so thought id get a bit done

sorry i didn't reply to the whats app other day, was full of oil.. the ones from TSR are not drilled, but i can get them drilled :-)

No worries fella, how much did you get the TSR ones for in the end?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 March 2012, 22:27
I aint got em mate

was waiting on you, I'm i no rush TBH will be after show season i take the car off the road :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: funkyfive on 12 March 2012, 22:53
I aint got em mate

was waiting on you, I'm i no rush TBH will be after show season i take the car off the road :smiley:

I am still waiting on Ben, going to see him on Wednesday to get some firm answers and final price as well.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: BISSONE on 13 March 2012, 16:20
Hey mate, know youve upgraded your brakes just wondered if you had done the master cylinder aswel or u still running 22mm?
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Post by: dazfx on 13 March 2012, 21:33
Amazing car amazing read!
Good work
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 13 March 2012, 21:38
cheers mate  :wink:

Bissone, the Master Cylinder is the GTI one.. hope this helps  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 13 March 2012, 23:28
What have you got for your aerial mate?

I bought some thing from Halfords for 15 quid which is supposed to be amplified and windscreen and it's worse then without one at all! I have one under the wing which works fairly poorly. Might work with an amplifier but just wondering what you use cause I don't want an aerial.

Cheers bud.  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 March 2012, 11:04
Hiya mate
It's a windscreen mount one, car remember the make of it but it's really good, a lot better than the old wing mount one that was standard (now deleted as welded up )
Iv hidden the windscreen mount one at the bottom of the screen wedged between the dash and the glass
I have a Good quality Alipne head unit too so maybe that helps

Will try look what brand the Ariel is mate
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 March 2012, 11:17
Update regarding the S3 brakes with Ceramic pads

Fooking AWESOME

that is all  :evil:


Coming very soon, my hybrid gearbox, TT short shift and MK4 linkage (got all the parts here Just need to order my LSD for the box and send it all away for build)

Also going to swap out the engine to turbo manifold for one of these super items that supposedly give upto 30bhp gains.. I don't believe that hype but anything is better than the restrictive standard item

Updates coming soon
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: RTechUK on 16 March 2012, 12:26
Cannot wait to see the results from the manifold... :wink:   Are you getting the full relentless manifold kit? down pipe and decat pipe?

Which TIP are you running?


Nick
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 March 2012, 12:34
Hi nick

I already have a fantastic custom
Made Downpipe and no cat at all, it's basically straight through from turbo

I just need the manifold

The TIP at the moment is a 80mm silicone that
Reduces down to the turbo has no name on it

I'll be interested to see the results tho. I'm well aware
The standard manifold is a bad design
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: RTechUK on 17 March 2012, 16:26
Hi nick

I already have a fantastic custom
Made Downpipe and no cat at all, it's basically straight through from turbo

I just need the manifold

The TIP at the moment is a 80mm silicone that
Reduces down to the turbo has no name on it

I'll be interested to see the results tho. I'm well aware
The standard manifold is a bad design

Speak to simon at Ecotech Wrexham and get him to do you a deal on the full body 80mm SFS tip, tell him Nick says do it at cost in the name of R&D.. :wink:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 March 2012, 17:34
Nick Can you speak with him or do you have contact deets  ?

PM me if you prefer

Cheers for input BTW  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tdi_blu on 17 March 2012, 19:18
I wish I had your money tree mate in my garden  :grin: awsome what youve done so far  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: bully79 on 24 March 2012, 19:15
Cheers for sorting that exhaust,it's absolute quality and looks  :cool:.Also the pictures do'nt do your car justice it looks awesome in the flesh  :smiley:.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 26 March 2012, 12:29
Cheers mate

Nice to meet you ;-)

Next small update will be the fitting of MK4 aluminum rear brake calipers which I'll finally get round to fitting once my custom made hoses arrive ( different fitment to mk3 set up) ;/)

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 04 April 2012, 20:32
did you bed them in as per ebc instructions?

I found those pads to be pretty wank tbh, maybe I had a duff set

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 April 2012, 21:12
pads are absolutely awesome, very very strong.. will only ever use these fro now onwards

I have upgraded all the lines and using good quality discs too, so yeah really happy mate

Other news ill have a bigger update coming towards the end of the month as I'm having my other MK4. 02J gearbox rebuilt, every bearing, gasket, seal, fork and syncro is getting replaced (basically gonna come back as a new box)  

as said earlier in the thread, its a EMR code box with same ratio as my current DPA mk3 16v box however the final drive is way shorter so I'm gonna swap that out for a VR6 one

Also have the TT short shif and MK4 golf linkages

and the jewel in the crown with be this bad boy (which came in at £1000 with the ARP bolts :shocked: )  but for me this is a very integral part of the cars performance

anyhow after hours and hours of research into all the brands on offer, and speaking to people who have had Experience of the 2 i was interested in both back to back (the other brand was Quaiffe), their was one clear winner thats superior to anything else on the market

Thus, here is what arrived the other day


WAVETRAC Limited slip diff


(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/3024/img3024qy.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/img3024qy.jpg/)

(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2285/img3026yp.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/img3026yp.jpg/)

(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6258/img3031o.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/img3031o.jpg/)

(http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/527/img3032z.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/542/img3032z.jpg/)

(http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/9473/img3038uj.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/804/img3038uj.jpg/)

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7021/img3027d.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/img3027d.jpg/)


here i the info on why these are way ahead of any other brand...  

http://www.wavetrac.net/technical.htm


Hotgolf (from clubGTI forum fame) is doing the rebuild and install, plus we are adding a lightened and balanced Flywheel

more updates soon



Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wazzzer on 04 April 2012, 22:00
I miss my LSD I had in the RS  :sad:

Should feel loads better when you put the power down on straights and round corners :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: wheatobear on 04 April 2012, 22:17
looks cool i love it!


Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Neo Badness on 05 April 2012, 00:25
That is proper spec. :cool:
 I have done similar research and came to the same conclusion re wavetrac. Have you looked into cryo treating the gears?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 05 April 2012, 13:10
Nice bit of kit that.  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 05 April 2012, 13:20
you had a play with the relentless mani and that tip yet?

are you going to go for an AGU head?

also... Thought of putting in the 1.8 20v na cams in?


not going for the Relentless mani mate due to quality issue and the way it glows red hot

going to go for JBS item, still toying with idea of bigger turbo tho too mate.

wjats the deal with NA 20V cams ?  never heard of this mod  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 05 April 2012, 13:42
thats interesting info mate, cheers :wink: :cool:


will make a decision on which way to go with engine mods after the LSD is fitted, thought it was best to prep the chassis as much as i can so I'm not loosing any performance...  stuff most people don't bother doing
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Post by: F17BAD on 05 April 2012, 13:49
i just meant in terse of the running gear, switching to MK4 driveshafts too as much thicker
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Post by: F17BAD on 05 April 2012, 14:10
yeah i already have the Drive shafts

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3344/img2890w.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/140/img2890w.jpg/)


also got round to refurbing a set of MK4 rear callipers

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8305/img29862.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/img29862.jpg/)

(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5483/img3004i.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/img3004i.jpg/)

(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9768/img3005sx.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/img3005sx.jpg/)

had the conversion (MK4 TO MK3) lines made up to match my fronts

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2034/img3006ih.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/img3006ih.jpg/)

Also refurbished a spare AUX belt tensioner too

(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5019/img2896n.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/img2896n.jpg/)

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Post by: F17BAD on 05 April 2012, 14:25
Angle is fairly flat mate TBH.. never had a issue however the MK3 items that have lived on my car for 19 years have some rust marks now.. and theirs some kind of vibration dampener thing on the drivers side shaft, this had come away and i can feel a vibration

i kept the Mk4 ones from when i converted my dads car to AUQ with 6 speed box

his car has never ever been driven hard, and he bought it brand new.. the Mk4 box I'm using came from his car too   :smiley:
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Post by: jmsheahan on 05 April 2012, 14:28
Looks good. What did you use paint wise on the calipers?
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Post by: dragongreengolfgti on 05 April 2012, 14:30
Good work mate loving this car even more  :smiley: Do mk4 driveshafts fit an ABF straight off or do you need there hubs and box also? reason i ask is i have a bit of vibration at the moment and i've replaced nearly everything i can on the front now but only thing i can think is i replaced my driveshafts with my old 8v ones possible this is the answer  :undecided: cheers

mike
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Post by: F17BAD on 05 April 2012, 14:36
Iv always used Hammerite paint on everything i do on engine parts and brakes.

the brakes are SMOOTH finish black as is the tensoner

i did the rocker cover in SATIN, and the Gearbox thats currently in is SATIN, new box will be the same too

here is tower and TT short shift iv refurbished

(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/7462/img2708c.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/img2708c.jpg/)

Satin black

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/213/imagehnc.jpg)

(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/3552/imagetky.jpg)


Mike, not 100% sure but think the answer is a yes
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Post by: RTechUK on 05 April 2012, 22:08
Looking good...  :smiley:
Are you going hi-flow manifold route??   :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 06 April 2012, 00:42
Looking good...  :smiley:
Are you going hi-flow manifold route??   :wink:

not sure Nick, I'm going to fit the LSD and utilise all the power i have now (as theirs a loss with wheel spin etc)

then decide.. unsure if to go big turbo, don't want lag, the GT28 i had in mind has lag, i hear IHI is pretty close in characteristics to my K04, need to drive a car with this set up

either way the manifold will be getting changed, again all depends which way i go with the engine

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Post by: sharki786 on 06 April 2012, 15:16
looking better every day kells. I remember i was talking with my mate and he was on about a GT2871rs turbo, its a ball bearing turbo so less lag? and spools up faster?
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Post by: stow1985 on 09 April 2012, 01:15
TT shifter looks spot on!
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Post by: Dmonday on 09 April 2012, 19:16
Been busy ;)
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 April 2012, 19:51
yes mate, as ever.. you know the score  :wink: :cool:
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Post by: Dmonday on 11 April 2012, 12:57
yes mate, as ever.. you know the score  :wink: :cool:

Haha looking great though bud ;) hope you're making it to edition this year?
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Post by: F17BAD on 12 April 2012, 12:39
cheers mate

hope to be in attendance dude.. :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 15 April 2012, 17:56
tiny mod done today

MK4 centre sun visor

(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/7163/img3095y.jpg)

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1273/img3096o.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/img3096o.jpg/)


And its been fully Dodo juiced

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1408/img2995ji.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/img2995ji.jpg/)


Next update will be the fitting of the Wavetrac LSD.. in a couple of weeks :cool: :cool:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 April 2012, 18:01
not yet mate, but i actually had a 20vt N/A engine here which we swapped with a turbo unit for a customer.. but he has gone and got rid of the bloody engine!!!!
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Post by: golf-sib on 15 April 2012, 18:33
not yet mate, but i actually had a 20vt N/A engine here which we swapped with a turbo unit for a customer.. but he has gone and got rid of the bloody engine!!!!

gutted! they are quite hard to get hold of i think... who wants to sell just the cams out of their engine

Scrap yards for this for a very front end damaged car  :grin: :grin: :grin:

I want to know how much of an advantage these actually have, otherwise for the price aftermarket ones may be a better options.

I know for a long type the european tuning sites had been running 240+bhp on a k03s, not to long ago nick achieved this as its easily possible. I know with the cams and a bunch of other mods a european tuner hit 260bhp with the k03s maxed out with very hard evidence, but it is running race fuel which is higher than 99ron.

I'll pm him or post on the ECU forums to see if there is any info on these cams.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: stow1985 on 15 April 2012, 22:48
Sun visor is a nice touch...what's your headlining wrapped in?
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 April 2012, 08:29
Sun visor is a nice touch...what's your headlining wrapped in?


Thanks mate

Roof liner is the early GTI / VR6 spec

Do have a set of black grab handles and have been considering doing the liner black but still not decided
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: LazyLunatic on 16 April 2012, 18:47
Such a nice example bud. Hope to see this at the shows in the summer!?! Be good to have a chat too :)
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 April 2012, 19:04
Such a nice example bud. Hope to see this at the shows in the summer!?! Be good to have a chat too :)

cheers mate.. would like to link up with you too dude.. would be good!  :smiley:

The car is deffo going to be at fuelled society on show and possibly VW fest..  not sure where else.. would like to make it to ED38 e ven if its just as a visitor

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Post by: F17BAD on 20 May 2012, 19:59
Right gonna bump this up again as I'm sending my 02J gearbox away this coming week to have it fully rebuilt, Vr6 Final drive and the Wavetrac Limited Slip diff   :smiley:

over the last week or so iv been tweaking things here and their

Decided to refurb another alternator i got hold of (same as the one i already have fitted - 120amp S3 / TT type)
rather than Black, i thought id go for a OEM Silver finish, i did a complete strip down of this and cleaned a lll the copper parts inside too so it basically looks brand fire new... id say better than one you can buy

any how some pics

this is the Alternator i got as a spare to refurb

(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2359/img3263.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/403/img3263.png/)

got busy stripping it down

(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/7373/img3159gs.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/img3159gs.jpg/)

used the Jetwash on this part came up like new

(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5472/img3160cj.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/img3160cj.jpg/)

Silver, OEM look

(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1239/img3161a.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/337/img3161a.jpg/)

all back together

(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9127/img3169lr.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/img3169lr.jpg/)

(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9764/img3170i.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/img3170i.jpg/)

proceeded to strip down the car - also had a leak on the radiator somewhere, so this was a chance to fix this issue too
Turns out that was just a loose Temp sensor, quick tighten up of that and it was fixed

(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8278/img3178j.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/img3178j.jpg/)

also took this chance to fit my recently refurbished Aux belt tensioner

(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1715/img2896z.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/502/img2896z.jpg/)

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/6082/img3184ol.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/img3184ol.jpg/)


(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1237/img3186b.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/img3186b.jpg/)

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/245/img3244py.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/img3244py.jpg/)


(http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/3314/img3245v.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/img3245v.jpg/)

(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8287/img3247mr.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/406/img3247mr.jpg/)

(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/6860/img3253r.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/img3253r.jpg/)

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9365/img3254ew.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/img3254ew.jpg/)

Next updates will be fitting of the Wavetrac Limited Slip Diff :cool:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 20 May 2012, 20:08
Looks the nuts mate.
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Post by: F17BAD on 20 May 2012, 20:10
thanx mate :smiley:
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Post by: Jamin on 20 May 2012, 20:15
I was so gutted that I never got to see this car at Harewood last year. I drove my missus mad dragging her round trying to find it :grin:. I swear, every time I look at the pictures of this car it gets cleaner and cleaner. Good work dude!!
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Post by: F17BAD on 20 May 2012, 20:18
the car IS on show at Harewood this year on the Sunday

it is a constant work in progress.. the work never stops, down to the smallest things, iv even re wired the engine bay for a even cleaner than clean look :grin:
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 20 May 2012, 20:24
I love how clean EVERYTHING is. :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 20 May 2012, 20:25
Cheers dude, you know how i roll  :wink: :smiley:
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Post by: scarr89 on 20 May 2012, 20:37
I love how clean EVERYTHING is. :afro:

It looks like a brand new engine FFS! Sickooo!

Love the work mate...When does the LSD go on?
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Post by: Junior74 on 20 May 2012, 20:56
Wicked!!!!!!!!
Proper wicked!!!!!!

 :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 20 May 2012, 21:00
I love how clean EVERYTHING is. :afro:

I bet his arse ain't that clean! :grin: :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 20 May 2012, 21:03
I love how clean EVERYTHING is. :afro:

I bet his arse ain't that clean! :grin: :laugh:

 :grin: :grin: :grin:

It really is just spotless that engine bay. Makes me sad knowing mine isn't like that...
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Post by: F17BAD on 20 May 2012, 21:09
 :grin: :grin:

LSD goes in the new box in the next week or so, i should receive it back in a couple of weeks all re build ready to fit

ill do that, land also fit MK4 GTI Driveshafts too and i have gone super OCD on the Gearbox, every bolt is brand new from the dealer :cool:
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Post by: Gavv8 on 20 May 2012, 21:13
Just read through this build from the start, it's a masterclass in how to build a 21st century mk3 and a credit to its owner.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 20 May 2012, 21:17
Just read through this build from the start, it's a masterclass in how to build a 21st century mk3 and a credit to its owner.

thanx for that mate  :wink: :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Seanl on 20 May 2012, 21:18
Chassis legs look filthy!  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: Wayne on 20 May 2012, 21:20
That is one clean engine bay :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 20 May 2012, 21:20
Chassis legs look filthy!  :lipsrsealed:

nope thats the wax they put on for protection in the factories (only early cars had so much of this), i left this on because these parts are hidden behind the slam/rad cowling panel and water gathers here

upstairs for thinking pal  :wink: :smiley:
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Post by: Seanl on 20 May 2012, 21:30
Meh, just looks dirty to me.  :tongue:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 20 May 2012, 21:33
 :grin:

i assure you those bits cannot be seen when the car is built...

i only removed the Wax protection from visible areas.. As i don't see the point removing it from those areas not seen..  felt guilty enough as it was removing any of it  :undecided:
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Post by: richw911 on 20 May 2012, 21:39
Really love the attention to detail on this car  :cool: :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2012, 16:09
So i sent away my 02J Gearbox, Wavetrac Limited slip diff, APR bolts and VR6 Final drive to Hotgolf last week

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5899/imagehpv.jpg)

he told me around 3 weeks to complete the job but friday i got this picture sent...  its all rebuilt and ready to rock N roll ;-)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9226/imagecqba.jpg)

He is just lightening and balancing a Flywheel for me and ill be sending TNT i Tuesday to collect it from South Wales


I have gone complete OCD on this box, i have all the bolts to replace 1 by 1 with genuine brand new items, I can't to this till i have given it the Standard finish i always use.. Satin black!   :cool:

basically this will be a brand new Box once finished


Expect proper update soon, with lots of pics....

for now, massive shout to Hotgolf.. top guy :smiley:

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Post by: Seanl on 09 June 2012, 21:15
So i sent away my 02J Gearbox, Wavetrac Limited slip diff, APR bolts and VR6 Final drive to Hotgolf last week

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5899/imagehpv.jpg)

he told me around 3 weeks to complete the job but friday i got this picture sent...  its all rebuilt and ready to rock N roll ;-)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9226/imagecqba.jpg)

He is just lightening and balancing a Flywheel for me and ill be sending TNT i Tuesday to collect it from South Wales


I have gone complete OCD on this box, i have all the bolts to replace 1 by 1 with genuine brand new items, I can't to this till i have given it the Standard finish i always use.. Satin black!   :cool:

basically this will be a brand new Box once finished


Expect proper update soon, with lots of pics....

for now, massive shout to Hotgolf.. top guy :smiley:



indeed Hotgolf is a top fella and give an excellent service as well as turnaround! Top work and look forward to updates :smiley: once its all built back up and in!
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Post by: Gavv8 on 09 June 2012, 21:34
Looking forward to seeing shiny new parts in a very cool car.. :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: jnufcuk on 17 June 2012, 19:00
This going to b at inters? If so look forward to seeing it  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dubsport on 18 June 2012, 12:15
f**k that is clean! OEM+ ftw :) hope my 1.8T conversion looks that good when its finished!!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 18 June 2012, 19:44
cheers dude :wink:

update coming after weekend as i now have my newly rebuilt bespoke 02J gearbox back from Hotgolf fitted with the Wavetrac Limited slip diff plus VR6 final drive

just painted it and its looking seriously  :cool:


not sure if i can maker inters yet
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 18 June 2012, 20:03


not sure if i can maker inters yet

Then less posting, more putting car back together  :tongue:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 18 June 2012, 20:10
we are fitting a new Rear Axle with Powerflex bushes wednesday nite

and then onto the Gearbox sunday, along with the gearbox I'm going to be fitting the Mk4 Gear shift cables which will need modification to fit mk3 chassis and also hope to fit the MK4 2.0 GTI Driveshafts as i have a very near mint pair and they are better than the mk3 items
Also Got Hotgolf to Lighten and Balance a Flywheel for me too  :cool:


will update with all the pics etc when its done, Hotgolf kindly got pics of the gearbox rebuild too.. 


Other news..

been offered a Genuine MTM 330 Turbo kit

im not decided if to go down this route or not just yet, but ill consider selling my full K04 set up (45k miles only) (everything needed to bolt to anoter 1.8T apart from my downpipe) for £500
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CJA321 on 18 June 2012, 22:05
Looking good bud, looking foreward to getting my hands on your old box  :cool:

Your new box is gonna be mean as fook  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2012, 10:08
Looking good bud, looking foreward to getting my hands on your old box  :cool:

Your new box is gonna be mean as fook  :cool:


will have all the bits out of the car on sunday matey so ill be in touch soon as they are ready. glad their are going to a good home  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2012, 13:40
Gearbox is ready to go in, I'm very pleased with results

got this back from Hotgolf, he is a absolute legend, i will do a full write up and review of this box and his work once i get the car on the road again

till then here are the pics of the box

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/41/imagexhs.jpg)

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8545/imageykdl.jpg)

(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/5192/imageppj.jpg)

(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8513/imageaxb.jpg)

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5093/imagekjq.jpg)

(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5831/imageokg.jpg)

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6021/imageoan.jpg)

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2162/imagesqgt.jpg)

He also sorted me a lightened and balanced Flywheel to suit The Turbo motor

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3716/imagevtu.jpg)


And then once received back in Leeds, i set about painting it and fitting all new VW bolts etc, and a Audi TT short shift

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5297/imagedvn.jpg)

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2908/imageyvyk.jpg)

Just have the end cap bolts to replace with new ones, then everything on and inside this box is new !

This will be going in the car tomorrow all been well, along with the MK4 gear linkages ad MK4 driveshafts (if they will fit)

will report ten with loads of pics


OTHER NEWS!!!


bought this-  Genuine VAG approved MTM Big Turbo kits, witht he K24 from a RS2 (rated up to 360bhp)

full kit... 

this will have cost the original over around £6200!!!!!

its now mine, fully rebuilt turbo with zero miles on it, has absolutely everything with it, however ill be having my own custom map done and not using the MTM mapped ECU thats with the kit

(http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/5179/imagelftn.jpg)

(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3045/imagexndw.jpg)

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8469/imagefcwe.jpg)

(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/988/imagesgtk.jpg)

Car is gonna be bad ass

just want to Strengthen the Con rods before i fit the Turbo kit just to be on the safe side
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Post by: murraymint on 23 June 2012, 13:46
 :kiss: that gearbox!!!! :cool: 
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2012, 13:56
Iv put ALOT of work into getting it to look like that  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: murraymint on 23 June 2012, 14:00
Iv put ALOT of work into getting it to look like that  :smiley:

It'll be worth it!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2012, 14:04
defiantly will be

i forgot to mention the final Drive has been replaced with a VR6 item also, so now the gets will be slightly longer.

a lot of power going through this, and a lot more to come so ill be making full use of that wavetrac diff
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: brett on 23 June 2012, 16:47
feckin awesome mate ,if only i put half the effort you put into yours mine would be  :cool: lol,top work as always
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: jnufcuk on 23 June 2012, 17:31
Inters tomo?  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2012, 17:54
wish i could make inters, car is in bits awaiting box going in etc

hope to make all the shows after tho, hopefully won't be too long till this Big Turbo kit is installed.

need to refurb a few parts on that (mainly the cosmetics of the external waste gate as this will be visible at the back of the bay  :cool: :laugh:)

and need to decide which Rods to go for too.. want riffle drilled items as per the OEM ones
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2012, 22:17
A little update on the New Box

2 words..  FOOKING AWESOME!!!

I recommend anyone running 200Hp +in a MK3 or older to spend the money on a decent Limited slip diff over further power mods

car is transformed into a total beast, no more stupid loss of traction at the lights, just feels like the car is super glued to the tarmac, on the bends i can only describe it as tho the car feels like it has 4WD

the Longer gears from the addition of the VR6 final drive coupled with the Lightened Flywheel have also helped make this the Ultimate 20vt Box for a MK3!

here is the Hotgolf Lightened and balanced flywheels next to the regular ABF one, he has machined this to suit Turbo car, which is a lot different to how he would do N/A types

(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/9325/imageulx.jpg)

I have no pics asof yet but we also modified the tunnel on the cars shell and fitted the much better MK4 GTI shift linkage (a must mod for slick gear change!!!!)

Gave it the first real test earlier on a private test strip over around a mile or so from a standing start, up against a 2006 BMW M5  (0-60 is 4 seconds on these)

I was behind the M5 and held on to its rear bumper right up to 120MPH where we both let off...  i was very pleased with this as previously i would have been left for dust due to me just been sat their spinning


So, the EMR code 02J box fitted with Wavetrac Limited Slip diff, VR6 final Drive and full rebuild.


(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2908/imageyvyk.jpg)


is now in the car

(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/9345/imageorj.jpg)

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/936/imagexdb.jpg)

cut down the gear shift inside the car

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1708/imagelom.jpg)

bad pic, but u get the idea

(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7059/imageswk.jpg)

Also another tiny mod was the latest type coolant reservoir cap, i painted the Red logo black to match the car tho (took a very delicate hand haha)

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5305/imageoidc.jpg)


NEXT UP... in the next few weeks we bid a farewell to the trusty KO4 in favour of the Genuine MTM kit with K24 7200 Turbo....  Google these if u have no idea...

basically a K26 hybrid into a K24 housing to reduce any lag.. good for 360bhp and was fitted to the Audi RS2

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9097/imageyux.jpg)

The Turbo comes fresh rebuild with zero miles

i have the full MTM kit, see previo posts for some pics

Also bagged some used I E Forged Con rods and ARP bolts on the bay so these will be going in at the same time as the Big turbo upgrade

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/420/kgrhqjhjekevchguczbp6jq.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/kgrhqjhjekevchguczbp6jq.jpg/)



Gotta give a absolutely huge shout to Martin - HOTGOLF for the Box rebuild and Flywheel

superb work, and super quick time. a real pleasure to deal with :cool:
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Post by: Toby on 30 June 2012, 22:23
Awesome work dude!!

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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2012, 22:27
Awesome work dude!!



thanks toby mate
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Post by: golf-sib on 30 June 2012, 22:32
Just when I think there's noting really left to do, you decide to do something new  :grin:

I do love tis thread, not many things you see done in the uk, like the final drive ratio's etc being swapped round. Now the big question is what will be the next to do thing after the turbo and rebuild?
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Post by: mcgee9t2 on 30 June 2012, 22:36
 :cool: :cool: good work mate :)
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Post by: The Doc on 30 June 2012, 22:38
Nice  :wink:
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Post by: Gavv8 on 30 June 2012, 22:44
Pushing the envelope for all mk3 owners.... :cool:
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Post by: daz veedub on 30 June 2012, 22:45
bloody love this great work brad  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2012, 22:50
thanks for kind words. its helps make all the very hard work and lots of £££££ worth while

Have to shout out to Ben too who has continually helped push the boundaries of this car (without been aloud to touch anything incase it gets dirty haha)


Car will be back at Carbon soon.. Ditching the MTM ECU in favour of Custom mapping..


After the big turbo etc.. i dunno whats next... iv almost built my ultimate MK3 golf..im very close now....  its all personal preference but when i set out to build this car i wanted to keep it looking like a regular GTI, yet clean..its how i like them best...  GTI arch trims etc...  

car still looks very similar to how it rolled out of the factory in Germany 19 years ago.. you don't see many like this with the mods under the hood that mines got


My mate MJ (MJ interiors) is gonna do me a black roof liner in return for me detailing his S3 engine so that will be after the Turbo.. then who knows what will be the next mod   :tongue:

Please remember, this car is a true daily driver... its not been built as a show car.. its a drivers car  :cool:


Wolverline, i have other news which i can't yet release, so my budget had to hold at some point, i paid a bargain £150 for the rods which have only done 5k miles  (versus £400 for brand new).. they came in the original box with protectors, and even the Certificate.. was a no brainer really

Manifold is the MTM item, the External waste gate is Audi RS2

I'm having a custom built 3" downpipe to suit
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 30 June 2012, 22:53
This is seriously the bolloxs now.  :kiss:
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Post by: brett on 30 June 2012, 23:00
think thais words say it all really ,awesome car mate and top work as always
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Post by: Gavv8 on 30 June 2012, 23:08
Anyone coming to the world of mk3's should go to the start of this thread and see where it all started and understand that we can all take something from this build from changing the colour of your interior led's to a tarmac munching S3 conversion, this car puts the mk3 where it belongs.
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2012, 23:17
Anyone coming to the world of mk3's should go to the start of this thread and see where it all started and understand that we can all take something from this build from changing the colour of your interior led's to a tarmac munching S3 conversion, this car puts the mk3 where it belongs.

thanks mate.. Keeping it Real :wink: :smiley:
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Post by: CJA321 on 30 June 2012, 23:17
Pure inspiration Brad, total dedication to your dub!! Fooking love it!!  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2012, 23:20
thanks man

all started with a £600 ex drug dealer, looking sorry for itself shed

proof you can actually polish a turd if you show it enough love  :grin:

think their sonly the shell left that original!, everything else iv either change, refurbished or removed :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 July 2012, 09:38
Forget floating, this thing flies  :grin:
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Post by: golf-sib on 01 July 2012, 12:54
Forget floating, this thing flies  :grin:

Ahhh, it makes sense, it is after all the mk3 Caspian sea monster:

(http://www.davidszondy.com/future/Flight/KM_ekanroplan.gif)

Yep definitely your car, you know how I know? It's the same colour  :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 July 2012, 20:00
 :grin: like it

Also forgot to mention we Pollybushed the rear beam

gave it a refresh with paint too

(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7017/imagerfw.jpg)

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9128/imagevcsz.jpg)


Some pics of parts of the MTM kit

K24 7200 Hybrid

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/5426/imagetze.jpg)

(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/6003/imageccf.jpg)

External waste gate and MTM Manifold

Going to refresh a few parts on the wastegate over the next few days :-)

(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9411/imageour.jpg)

(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8282/imagecxo.jpg)
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Post by: golf-sib on 01 July 2012, 20:19
What you doing with external wastegate, venting it out or back into the system?
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 July 2012, 20:23
Back into system as per MTM did i think..

not sure what is best ????
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 July 2012, 21:03
what do you mean ?  its direct bolt on kit for my engine :wink:

and believe it or not i actually have more room from the back of my engine to firewall than what the S3 does

the Charge pipe (that goes round the side of the engine) that came with the kit is a OEM item modified.. it gives more clearance and also removes the baffled part

the Downpipe is a 3" item.. I'm having a custom one done in same size but to suit my shell and no cat set up 
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Post by: RTechUK on 01 July 2012, 21:16
Boooosssst on its way   :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 July 2012, 21:16
it mounts the way it is in the picture, you can just see the top of the waste gate once its fitted, it is a tight fit, but it does go..

ill take lots of pics when we are fitting it.  :smiley:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 01 July 2012, 21:19
here is the Hotgolf Lightened and balanced flywheels next to the regular ABF one, he has machined this to suit Turbo car, which is a lot different to how he would do N/A types

Uh huh.

He took the weight off the flywheel in a different way to which he would for an NA engine?

You probably need to get some explanation on that, because grams and kilos are the same whether they're being driven by an NA motor, or a turbo motor.  :grin:

And the weight that's taken off is around the outside of the flywheel, last time I checked.

So you're out there wasting the competition on private strips yet can't make it to Inters and there's no photos or video of the car in motion?

Here's the solution.

http://www.rwyb.co.uk/dates.php

Look - there are dates all the way through til October.
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 July 2012, 21:26
Hotgolf asked me the power of the car and future plans of the power, i told him, he did the work to suit that.. Turbo car can spin it a lot faster than NA.. he said on a NA he would take as much weight off as possible

thats all i know.. if you wanna know more, ask him the reasons...

Also, would be a bit hard to get to inters when the car was in bits awaiting gearbox etc  :grin: :grin: :grin:

The car is not a track car or a show car.. it is a daily driver.

not sure what videos you would like to see.. if you was local id take you out in it... maybe then you would STFU
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Post by: tshirt2k on 02 July 2012, 15:08
Watch out Scene Police about!! :shocked:

Could it be the First MTM kitted Mk3??
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Post by: F17BAD on 02 July 2012, 16:01
It will be the first according to MTM :smiley:
As u know, Iv spoke to them today regarding my set up toask a few questions

All the S3's that were fitted with this set up were done in house and not many were done, it cost a staggering £6500 plus fitting :shocked:
My kit is even rarer as it has the very sought after. K24 7200 hybrid turbo

@wolverline, the techical director says the Clearance with this kit versus the standard K04 set up is about the same, so I should have no issues (I hope)

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Post by: jinx on 02 July 2012, 19:12
Arrgh,  i'm so jelly of this car, it's so clean and tidy, and i bet it drives so sweet.

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/936/imagexdb.jpg)

Mine looks a r8 mess compared

(http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u499/councilp0p/10032012382.jpg)

You've got me dreamin now,  gotta get me a new gearbox like urs, mine's still a DPA with just a peloquin diff :/
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Post by: scarr89 on 02 July 2012, 19:15
It will be the first according to MTM :smiley:
As u know, Iv spoke to them today regarding my set up toask a few questions

All the S3's that were fitted with this set up were done in house and not many were done, it cost a staggering £6500 plus fitting :shocked:
My kit is even rarer as it has the very sought after. K24 7200 hybrid turbo

@wolverline, the techical director says the Clearance with this kit versus the standard K04 set up is about the same, so I should have no issues (I hope)



That is outrageously priced. Surely they must have seen the mugs coming who bought that! What were they buying for 6.5k exactly?

How/where did you source yours from? Hope you didn't pay that much for it...More than most cars!!!!
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Post by: F17BAD on 02 July 2012, 19:54
Yeah that price is ridiculous, the MTM brand is very big tho and I guess it's that what u pay for and also the fact it was approved by Audi (and still is)
It also uses all genuine Audi parts believe it or not apart from the parts MTM fabricated up like the Downpipe. And charge pipe

For the money I you get

Turbo ( as Iv said mine is the uber sought after item which is about 2.5k new)
MTM hi flow manifold
Big RS2 type Audi waste gate
Custom Downpipe with twin race cats
Ecu upgrade
Big injectors
Aload of pipe work and stuff
Warranty approved

Iv probably missed a few bits as Iv got all sorts with it

My mate MJ of Mj interiors got the kit from a guy who had crashed his S3. I had been trying to get him to sell me if for ages
He has just put his money into another business for his wife
Price was just toooooo cheap to pass on
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Post by: Wazzzer on 02 July 2012, 21:23
looking forward to seeing the pics of this being fitted and the results  :wink:
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Post by: Wayne on 02 July 2012, 21:43
Going to be both awesome and a complete handfull.
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Post by: scarr89 on 02 July 2012, 22:13
So it comes with a warrantee...Winner!!  :laugh:

I thought it was just the hardware of the turbo...Didn't realise it was all of the above mentioned. Probs a good deal then :smiley:

Kells...you keep mentioning all of this Audi approved, genuine Audi parts etc...BUT you own a VW  :wink: :laugh:
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Post by: F17BAD on 02 July 2012, 22:19
will be a handful, it is now never mind then  :laugh: however the Gearbox has really sorted things out..

cannot recommend a Limited slip diff enough.. would advise this to anyone before chasing more power

gotta collect a few little parts to refresh certain bits etc, plus associated bits ill need along the way when I'm changing the con rods and then the install will commence

looking forward to it

Car booked in at VW Leeds for a week on friday for full suspension alignment etc.. got a contact their and i want it doing right so seemed a good option

Scarr, yea u are right i keep forgetting its really a VW.. its just most the bits i buy for this car now are from Audi..  :laugh: 

the shell is just a mule really  :grin:

bloody good job one of the lads i know who worked in the VW parts Dept has moved to Audi Parts Dept.. ironic or what!
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Post by: scarr89 on 02 July 2012, 22:29
 :wink:

I am no expert here  :embarassed:, but does your car struggle/did it struggle with out the LSD because it was 'too' light for the power/engine. The S3 is a pretty mean piece of engineering compared to 'just a mk3 shell', if you get what I mean  :undecided:...You think the LSD has cleared up all of the problems?

How long for turbs fit? :smiley:

 Also what is this contract you have, what sort of contracts can people hold with garages with cars that are half audi half dub apart from fixed term services?  :grin:
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Post by: Steve_PD on 02 July 2012, 22:34
Kells...you keep mentioning all of this Audi approved, genuine Audi parts etc...BUT you own a VW  :wink: :laugh:

And the engines from a Seat :tongue:

Will be more of a beast once the turbos fitted and setup :evil:
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Post by: F17BAD on 02 July 2012, 22:36
i mean Contact as in people i know who work their so i can get good deals etc and well looked after

the car did handle the engine really well actually, obviously i have the suspension sorted, all new bushes etc and i have the Audi S3 braking with ceramic pads

its well sorted the only issue i has was wheel spin

Even at high speed (150 +) the car felt stable with no issues.. testament to the VW build..

the MK3 shell is good on aerodynamics (unlike the MK2 which is terrible over 100mph)


the Wavtrac Limited slip diff has transferred it further, so has the VR6 final Drive in the gearbox too.. the thing is just glued to the road

The S3 is a heavy car.. so the engine in the Golf feels like a completely different beast all together


yeap the same engine is the LCR and TT, AMK and BAMS, great units


should be a few weeks before i can fit it as i need to have my own down pipe fabricated as the S3 MTM one won't fit my golf shell, plus i don't run cats
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Post by: VonGrun on 03 July 2012, 16:03
When we organising the vw festival?
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Post by: F17BAD on 13 July 2012, 17:55
The car went to the dreaded VW dealership today as it is the only place that can do the Alignment correctly and to spec.. (car too low and people cutting corners is the main reasons iv chosen to go with VW)

I have a contact who is a tech their so he did the work and made sure that he and only him even went near the car


He did an amazing job..

re aligned the Steering column to the steering rack as per original factory settings (new one to me)
checked all 4 wheels, fronts were spot on (how lucky was i when fitting the coil overs) but tracking was a mile out (just fitted new ball joints and steering rack gaiters so was expected)


Rear beam was also out, probably down to fact iv had that off the car to polly bush

Car is just fantastic to drive now, took him 4 hours to do the work..

car came back to me just how i left it..  top marks for VW Leeds Dealership

Even sent me a cheeky picture of the in process work

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5780/imagewws.jpg)

Next up is fitting the MTM Turbo set up and strengthened Con rods... this will commence next weekend after fuelled society show :cool:
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Post by: jnufcuk on 13 July 2012, 18:05
Really want to see this in the flesh  :evil:

Was hoping to go to the VW festival in Leeds buts its just too far away.

Not going to VW action by any chance are u?  :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 13 July 2012, 18:08
when and where is it mate ?

I'm hoping to get to as many as i can once the MTM set up is fitted

I am gonna Do ED38, is that same time as VW Action ?
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Post by: jnufcuk on 13 July 2012, 18:43
Ye same trying to get to as many as poss dependant on travel time lol

Vw action http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=226787.0
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Post by: LazyLunatic on 13 July 2012, 19:15
MTM? Sweet! You say ED38? Hope to see you there, load of us go up from Plymouth :)

Its amazing what a full alignment check can do, totally transforms cars if its way out. Spot on! A friend was telling about the rear beam situation on his Mk3 R32, straighten his rear beam and made such a difference. I think mine is slightly out and with boost you notice it more I would think, on/off throttle is a bit more aggresive.

I need to get on it, usually do tracking and camber myself. Not the best but better than getting it done anywhere. I'm in the same boat as you, don't trust any monkey garages around me, even if they have super expensive alignment machines they have given me nothing but problems and robbed me blind! Plus I'm always tinkering and can't afford to keep paying for it to be done.

So MTM all sorted by ED38???
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Post by: F17BAD on 13 July 2012, 19:26
yeah mate hear you totally, was hard for me to let the car go through a dealership, only did it because of the contact i have

Tried to book it in to porsche before that and they said they were not aloud to work on the car as its a VW!

yeah MTM kit on next weekend, will take a few extra days to then get the downpipe modified and then it needs to go back to be custom mapped (prefer to rather than use MTM map)

the Turbo is a Audi RS2 Hybrid, good for unto 360HP.. so should see decent results from it
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Post by: LazyLunatic on 13 July 2012, 19:33
Sick, must be stoked! Hahaha, that's justs bragging rights for alignment at Porsche! But I bet they would do a good job to be fair.

So not expecting any extra lag on that? And I guess being a hybrid, its like Hovis 50/50 - best of both! torque-y bottom end and more top?
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Post by: F17BAD on 13 July 2012, 19:35
well its K26 internals in a smaller K24 housing

probably gonna be more lag than standard set up as its bigger, but we will see
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 13 July 2012, 20:21
yeah mate hear you totally, was hard for me to let the car go through a dealership, only did it because of the contact i have

Tried to book it in to porsche before that and they said they were not aloud to work on the car as its a VW!

yeah MTM kit on next weekend, will take a few extra days to then get the downpipe modified and then it needs to go back to be custom mapped (prefer to rather than use MTM map)

the Turbo is a Audi RS2 Hybrid, good for unto 360HP.. so should see decent results from it

I'm sure that'll be changing soon seeing as VW have just taken fully ownership of Porsche.
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Post by: Junior74 on 13 July 2012, 20:53
I've said it before and I'm not ashamed to say it again "this golf is f*****g amazing"
I'm so jealous...love it...
(not as constructive as other posts but....speechless...so good!!!)
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Post by: jnufcuk on 13 July 2012, 21:29
Did u not tell them u have porsche wheels  :grin:

Look forward to seeing the new results when u get her dyno'd :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 13 July 2012, 21:54
I've said it before and I'm not ashamed to say it again "this golf is f*****g amazing"
I'm so jealous...love it...
(not as constructive as other posts but....speechless...so good!!!)

Thanks mate that means a lot to me.

@jnufcuk. I did actually say that to them haha
They said they would check, and call me back. Which they did but it was still a no
The woman was very apologetic tho LOL
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Post by: scarr89 on 13 July 2012, 22:34
Did they give like a 'printout' or something to show you how far out your rear beam is/was? How can a rear beam even be out?  :embarassed: :undecided:

Glad it is all sorted!  :wink:

Cannot wait for zeee turbo to be fitted  :cool:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 14 July 2012, 01:24
I'm also interested to know about this rear beam as I didn't think there was any adjustment on them?
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Post by: tshirt2k on 14 July 2012, 09:19
The brackets that bolt the beam to the body can be moved slightly.
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Post by: scarr89 on 14 July 2012, 11:15
The brackets that bolt the beam to the body can be moved slightly.

Ahhh  :rolleyes:  :smiley:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 14 July 2012, 12:06
Ah of course, albeit not by a great deal though.
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Post by: tshirt2k on 14 July 2012, 13:22
Doesn't need to be a great deal. Unless things are bent. Subframe can be moved also like this. Could be the reason many mk3's pull slightly to the left.
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Post by: Wazzzer on 14 July 2012, 13:53
It's the same for the mk4 too, the holes are slightly slotted so you ideally need it set up properly if they have been moved
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 July 2012, 18:23
yeah above is correct

they set the front up by adjusting the steering column to the rack, once that was perfect they can then set the wheels, once the wheels are set they can then track it

Luckily tho i had guessed the column correctly when i fitted it (when i originally did my conversion)

he told me 95% of places you go will not do it this way... and not doing it this way means its not possible to set it up correctly

its a huge improvement over how it was


P.S i never knew the rear beam had adjustment either till he told me.. mine was probably a mile out because i have just replace it a few week ago as i fitted those power flex bushes
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Post by: LazyLunatic on 15 July 2012, 12:47
Is it a thing VW garages do or exclusive to yours? I understand the ones down here are francised though :undecided:

I'm glad I read your post though, reminded me about this rear beam. This might just be the thing that needs doing to get mine driving as perfect as possible (I know raising it will help, that's planned).
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Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2012, 16:26
As far as i know, they offer the service they carried out on mine to everyone, they won't do "just Tracking" he told me, and only offer full wheel alignment and tracking as 1 job

well worth doing mate

A pic from Fuelled society show.. (if anyone reads this who took some of the many pictures that were been taken of my car id like to see them  :smiley:)


(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8721/imagefdp.jpg)
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Post by: scarr89 on 15 July 2012, 16:28
Are you serious?! Did someone crane you into the field so you didn't rip your bumper off!? Do your wheels even go full lock? VVVVV low  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2012, 16:32
it was difficult getting it in and out of the show ground haha!   :grin:
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Post by: Gavv8 on 15 July 2012, 17:29
It's a golf jim but not as we know it....just superb.
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 16 July 2012, 00:11
Whats the book price VW charge for a full alignment anyway, Brad?
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 July 2012, 08:33
I'll ask, think its around the £120 mark tho mate
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 16 July 2012, 09:17
Yeah thought it'd be at least a ton. Elite in Essex charged me almost £80 I think so the dealer is always going to cost more.
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Post by: tshirt2k on 16 July 2012, 12:31
Yeah thought it'd be at least a ton. Elite in Essex charged me almost £80 I think so the dealer is always going to cost more.

Don't think elite would adjust rear beam tho.
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Post by: F17BAD on 21 July 2012, 22:18
Well yesterday was the last day of K04 Turbo on my car

its currently sat in a secure location in Leeds in bits..

This is a really bad picture as my hands were full of oil after removing Sump and oil pumps plus a load of other parts

(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4055/imagexop.jpg)

Early start in the morning as we will be fitting the uprated Con Rods, then building the engine back up fitting the New Big turbo kit as we go

Need a water line sending from MTM, plus the ECU is getting sent to MTM as we need the map on mine that came witht he kit originally, ill then be able to drive the car...straight for custom mapping  :grin: :evil:

Also have to modiy the MTM downpipe to mate to my current custom pipe

other bits needed are to modify my TIP as the Audi RS2 Hybrid turbo (K24 7200) has a much bigger inlet than the K04 (about twice the size!!  guy at MTM says ill need a reducer so ill measure up once i get the K04 off the car tomo


excited, and worried about ripping a perfectly good engine to bits  :evil:

Car is going to be savage when its back on the road... which will be about a weeks time when i get the ECU back etc


further updates coming tomo or so :smiley:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 21 July 2012, 22:21
This is gonna be a friggin animal once mapped, i'd love to see this in the flesh once done.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 July 2012, 22:26
Id be happy to show you round the car mate

Even tho its not been built as a show car, I'm going to try be at as many as i can, not sure if u are hitting any ?

 it was well received at the Fueled Society event last weekend which was nice   :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 21 July 2012, 22:30
I'll see this eventually, although I won't be making the trip especially just to see it. :lipsrsealed: :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 21 July 2012, 22:31
 :wink: :cool:

cheers for the logos and stuff mate, top work  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 21 July 2012, 22:35
Who is doing the custom mapping?  :smiley:

Whats next after this as surely there is little left to do  :undecided:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 21 July 2012, 22:44
:wink: :cool:

cheers for the logos and stuff mate, top work  :cool:

No problem mate, anytime.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 July 2012, 22:56
Who is doing the custom mapping?  :smiley:

Whats next after this as surely there is little left to do  :undecided:

Carbon... Nick currently as my MTM  ECU, which was fro a APY (early S3) so no good for mine as its no way near as complex as the AMK / BAM ECU

Next up, not sure Engine wise.. almost where i want to be, toyed with idea of bigger Inlet manifold and some other bits, but we will see

theirs some other bits i want to do to the car too.. then who knows..this car is ever evolving !!   :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wazzzer on 21 July 2012, 23:28
Fancy making the journey down for the next willy waving event at JKM?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 21 July 2012, 23:30
Fancy making the journey down for the next willy waving event at JKM?

That's a bloody long trip for him! I wouldn't complain if he did though.
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Post by: Wayne on 21 July 2012, 23:43
Going to be awesome when finished :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 July 2012, 00:04
cheers wayne :-)

JKM, where is that place ?  what date  ?

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wazzzer on 22 July 2012, 18:53
Portsmouth and it's whenever Khare organises it  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 22 July 2012, 20:29
that would one hell of a road trip, will have to give that some consideration


Update on car, got the new rods installed, was held up by trying to remove crank bolt to fix a weeping seal, managed to get the bolt off just need to pick the seal out whci is been a bar steward

got all surfaces cleaned up and ready to rebuild back up tomorrow

new turbo set up looks like it will be a easy fit, especially the downpipe which i was worried about

left is K04 set up, right is the MTM kit, gonna cut the MTM pipe where the Flange is on the Ko4 pipe and have the same flange fabricated and welded so it will just bolt right up to my exhaust as normal.. RESULT! :cool:

(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/3528/imagefrd.jpg)

will save rest of pictures for when its finished
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Post by: Neo Badness on 22 July 2012, 20:55
That'll be badass :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: funkyfive on 22 July 2012, 21:44
Come on Brad more power!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 23 July 2012, 11:21
Flipping heck Brad! I've just caught up on the last couple of month's worth of updates, one word - mental!!

New turbo is going to be mental, you'll have to take me out for a spin sometime :wink:

I'm looking forward to seeing this at Leeds next month :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: scarr89 on 23 July 2012, 12:35
Is it finished yet?  :rolleyes: :grin:

You say Carbon have your ECU at the mo? Will they be mapping it while out of the car or you drive to them and map it on the rollers?  :embarassed: :undecided:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VW BUSH on 23 July 2012, 12:47
Come on Brad more power!!
Yeah through the rear wheels.....
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 23 July 2012, 19:22
ECU is getting sent to QST (MTM UK people) for the correct map putting on it..  (carbon have the MTM one that came with the kit  thats no good for my engine as it was from a APY which is a lot different to the AMK and BAM units

QST have asked me to send both the ECU;s and they will sort the correct map on to my ECU and post them back

car will then be drivable.... right to Carbon for custom map

had a test mount earlier, Wastegate fits with LOADS of space, Turbo fits with space, MTM downpipe has too much of a swing on the bend and is hitting my Rear engine mount!!! :angry:

Having to cut it up and re weld, failing that the car will have to go to my fabricators to have a whole new one made... Ben seems to think his idea will work so we will see tomorrow

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 23 July 2012, 19:42
This has to be one of the best Mk3's out there, a monster!! Keep it up mate!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 23 July 2012, 21:07
This has to be one of the best Mk3's out there, a monster!! Keep it up mate!!


thanks mate, people don't understand when i say its comments like these that keep me going.

appreciated

 :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 24 July 2012, 19:25
after a worrying 24 hours if the actual Turbo kit was gonna fit I'm happy to say its all systems go!!

the Turbo fits with no clearance issues as does the External waste gate (these were the bits we were worried about)

The downpipe was bulky with some bad welding that caused even more bulk meaning it was hitting my rear engine mount

DEVASTATION

Ben took it away hacked it up and arrived today with a mock up and it bloody fits with space to play with... proving he is still the best Enginner in Leeds as he likes to state  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:   TBH i was over the  moon so who am i to argue


Turbo manifold, and Turbo mounted on head

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1474/imageyhi.jpg)

with External waste gate fitted

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5849/imagezeax.jpg)

Downpipe mock up

(will need the Exhaust section for External waste gate tidying up, shortening etc and then welding on the final edition

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6391/imageoof.jpg)

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5414/imageymej.jpg)

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3605/imagewbz.jpg)

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9643/imageydc.jpg)

will add a straight piece and have a flange made up thats the same as my current join and this will bolt right up to the existing half of my current downpipe  RESULT!!!!   :cool:


Uprared conrods intalled

OLD ones removed

(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1074/imagecwi.jpg)


NEW Integrated Engineering ones in place using ARP bolts

(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/7007/imagelvf.jpg)

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/9637/imageycgh.jpg)

Car as it stands tonight, Build it back up tomorrow night

(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2953/imageptvl.jpg)
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Post by: VW BUSH on 24 July 2012, 19:31
Awesome stuff.
Have you been making any drawings for all this fabrication work? could be a market out there.....
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 24 July 2012, 19:34
will have all patterns for it mate yea.. something we have spoke about already  :wink:

Was really keen to make this project happen and have the First EVER MTM'd S3 engined Mk3 Golf
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 24 July 2012, 19:38
 :evil: MADNESS!!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 24 July 2012, 19:40
it is mate haha, gotta be done tho, needs to keep different from any other :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 24 July 2012, 19:42
it is mate haha, gotta be done tho, needs to keep different from any other :cool:

This is it.

On a side note have you changed the hole in the carpet/mat on the drivers side yet?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 24 July 2012, 19:43
it is mate haha, gotta be done tho, needs to keep different from any other :cool:

This is it.

On a side note have you changed the hole in the carpet/mat on the drivers side yet?

i still use that mate

i have a genuine set for special occasions (brand new looking)

car is used daily u see
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 24 July 2012, 19:45
it is mate haha, gotta be done tho, needs to keep different from any other :cool:

This is it.

On a side note have you changed the hole in the carpet/mat on the drivers side yet?

i still use that mate

i have a genuine set for special occasions (brand new looking)

car is used daily u see

All the best in the work and hope to see you about at some shows :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 24 July 2012, 19:46
cheers mate, would be nice to see u again pal  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 24 July 2012, 19:59
Once again mate, absolutely crazy! :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: daz veedub on 24 July 2012, 20:03
great work as always mate seen that pic on fb  :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: bobbarley on 24 July 2012, 20:12
Amazing glad, love that you don't do things by halves!  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Toby on 24 July 2012, 20:21
Mtm are round corner from me!

New rs3 mtm there the other day! Lovley!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Gavv8 on 24 July 2012, 20:35
I come and read the updates on this car to dream and drool, epic work and flying the flag against the chequebook US and euro mk3's.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 24 July 2012, 21:18
I come and read the updates on this car to dream and drool, epic work and flying the flag against the chequebook US and euro mk3's.

Thanx Gav, you think just like i do..

Thanx for comments guys, means lots to me.. been hard work this one and took a lot for me to rip the engine to bits  :laugh:

Toby that RS3 belongs to the owner and guy I'm dealing with  - Kim Colins. h used to have a S3 with a  RS4 engine  :cool:
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Post by: Toby on 24 July 2012, 21:21
Yea, name rings a bell!!

Rs4 cab on ph ATM. I thought about lol
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 24 July 2012, 21:25
Yea, name rings a bell!!

Rs4 cab on ph ATM. I thought about lol

Love RS4's mate :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Seanl on 24 July 2012, 21:30
Yea, name rings a bell!!

Rs4 cab on ph ATM. I thought about lol


Kim Collins is/was also a sprinter from one of the Caribbean countries thats why!  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: barrym381 on 24 July 2012, 21:38
Yea, name rings a bell!!

Rs4 cab on ph ATM. I thought about lol

Love RS4's mate :cool:
cheap s4 in glasgow for sale  :grin: :grin:

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/4442954/Crime-twins-attack-car-returned.html
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 July 2012, 23:40
Engine almost back together now, found a few split pipes under the intake that id not long ago replaced...so iv ordered Forge ones for this area as its very hard to get to once the intake and front end of car is fitted..

this is probably why the car has not been holding boost as it should do.. their was 2 pipes with very big splits

Head is back on car, cam belt fitted, oil pump on etc

Ben fitted a New Crank seal (bas tard of a job) as my old one was leaking slightly

just got Sump to fit tomo, and hopefully the silicone pipes will arrive so  can fit the Intake

then its just the ECU to sort, and i need a oil return line from MTM plus the adapter to make my TIP fit the Bigger Turbo inlet and then get my Downpipe mock up made up and heat wrapped

Turbo on the car

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5627/imagegkc.jpg)
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Post by: brett on 25 July 2012, 23:56
good effort and quick turn around as always ,as i've said before if i had half the motivation u had i'd be well happy and so would the car lol,its slowly coming back with the help of  you and other fellow members putting in the effort
keep up the good work mate  :cool:
be good to see this in the flesh ,how fars stockport from leeds lol
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 July 2012, 23:58
cheers mate, and not far at all. you should come to VW Festival - leeds Aug 19th :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: brett on 26 July 2012, 00:01
cant working  :sad:,but gonna be visiting my bro in stockport last week in august ,was gonna see if i could catch some members while up that way lol
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: LazyLunatic on 26 July 2012, 01:27
Good progress bud and glad you spotted what's causing boost issues!!! Split pipes.... damn things.

I'm thinking of integrated engineering rods when I hybrid my turbo.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: BISSONE on 26 July 2012, 16:53
Hey kells, just curious as to how much you paid originally for your Engine and loom etc? If you dont mind saying?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: barrym381 on 26 July 2012, 17:11
Hey kells, just curious as to how much you paid originally for your Engine and loom etc? If you dont mind saying?
be better buyin a smashed s3 then sellin the bit you dont use as you prob need a couple of extra bit from it  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 26 July 2012, 17:31
paid quite a lot for mine as it was the full set up and only covered 40 ish thousand miles

i could have bought a full S3 with high miles for the price i paid. i only wanted a AMK or BAM engine too and not the earlier APY which isn't as good

not a cheap game this  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 28 July 2012, 18:11
Well thae engine is back in 1 piece again now but ill save the propper update for when iv got the final bits done, these are the Downpipe welded up and ECU back from MTM

in the meantime i fitted the Forged uprated hoses for those very weak pipes which ar elocated under the inlet manifold..  iv changed these 3 times now with OEM items which cant take the boost.. Mine were split very badly loosing me boost!! which i had noticed via the turbo gauge in the car

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6889/imagekkt.jpg)


also got another sump made as the last one was just about through again (has been impressive the strength)

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2038/imagewat.jpg)

then Got my good friend MJ (interiors) to turn this old Annie gearknob i got hold of

(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/2301/imageuej.jpg)

into this

(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1695/imageddq.jpg)

final update on New Turbo upgrade coming very soon   :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8452/imagelaz.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Junior74 on 28 July 2012, 19:18
How can this car keep getting better!!!!
Massive respect to you mate....
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: LazyLunatic on 29 July 2012, 00:03
Sump looks good. How thick is the plating? Mine has 10mm armor plating and all the inside welded up and put on a level machine. Has taken a battering, but still holding up :)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: brett on 29 July 2012, 01:57
mate the gearknob looks the dogs danglies  10/10 as always
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: jinx on 08 August 2012, 18:25
no updates in over a week

going through withdrawal

need another fix of the-mk3-jesus
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 08 August 2012, 21:32
 :grin:

Just waiting on a few bits for my downpipe, having a flange laser cut to fit to my system

should be finished by this weekend, decided to vent Wastegate to Atmosphere as i dont want to restrict flow (which it would if i piped back into the system as it would have to join right on the bend where the downpipe meets Turbo) and also wanna make sure the Temps are kept to a minimum..

here was the mock up with wastegate back into system (minus Flange to join to my exsisting system)

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/53/imagemem.jpg)


Also had to modify the mount bracket for engine as it was still fouling on the downpipe, this is a box section so iv welded a piece of metal inside to keep the strength.. just wants painting now


(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/5461/imagegnp.jpg)

(http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/3240/imagetxn.jpg)

(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7548/imagecqx.jpg)

(http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/8039/imageiba.jpg)

Got ECU back with Correct MTM map for the set up (so i can at least drive the car without risk of any damage )

Big shouts to Kim collins at QST for that 

will be off for custom mapping tho,

so yea all car is back in 1 piece just my downpipe to finish then it can make its first appearance at VW festival next weekend :-)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 08 August 2012, 21:44
Its not gonna be for the kids is it mate haha

will see how it fairs up.. interesting times to be had tho :laugh:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 08 August 2012, 21:59
Been a loooong time since I took at look at this... When will it ever end? you're always finding things to do to improve it!.. Nice work.  :cool:  Obviously a keeper.  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 08 August 2012, 22:14
thanks mate

deffo a keeper, really love this car.. best VW iv ever owned

constantly look for ways to perfect it.. do my own head in tbh :grin:

got a few other projects on soon as this is back on road so that should keep me busy  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 August 2012, 22:50
F17BAD sparked back into life again tonight :evil: :evil:


not driven it yet.. but its all completed.. just coolant to top uo and heat wrap on part of the downpipe to do

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: scarr89 on 15 August 2012, 23:16
F17BAD sparked back into life again tonight :evil: :evil:


not driven it yet.. but its all completed.. just coolant to top uo and heat wrap on part of the downpipe to do



Properly all buttoned up, fully mapped and working??! and all you can say is as above. You are a sick Fin man. Get some graphs up!!!  :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Toby on 15 August 2012, 23:21
You bringing it down to qst for mapping?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 August 2012, 08:30
It's got the MTM map on at the mo which was done by Kim Collins at QST

It is having full custom map done tho, just need to get Vw festival out the way this weekend ;-)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Toby on 16 August 2012, 08:47
So bringing the car down?  :undecided:

Let me know when
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 16 August 2012, 08:52
So bringing the car down?  :undecided:

Let me know when

car will then be drivable.... right to Carbon for custom map
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Toby on 16 August 2012, 08:57
Idk why you would take it to carbon,  :lipsrsealed: doesn't touch 1.8t's!

Qst specialise in these, it's a no brainier. Or..... Niki @ r tech   :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 16 August 2012, 09:03
Idk why you would take it to carbon,  :lipsrsealed: doesn't touch 1.8t's!

Qst specialise in these, it's a no brainier. Or..... Niki @ r tech   :evil:

Only special one's  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 16 August 2012, 09:20
Idk why you would take it to carbon,  :lipsrsealed: doesn't touch 1.8t's!

Qst specialise in these, it's a no brainier. Or..... Niki @ r tech   :evil:

Only special one's  :wink:

I'm in that exclusive club and my car isn't special :grin:

Looking forward to seeing this again on Sunday Brad :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 16 August 2012, 09:31
I have a feeling the guys at Carbon like a challenge, this is a challenge :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 August 2012, 09:46
The biggest challenge is getting it on the rollers haha

I'll have aload of pics to add here of some work done and a full update at some point later /Tomo

Really really busy at mo got cars coming out of my ears plus another conversion started (mk 3 estate 1.8T)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 August 2012, 13:30
Just driven it for the first time

FOOOOOK IN HELL

Brutal is all I can say... Jesus it is fast :evil:


Didn't go stupid as it was first run since rebuild

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: sharki786 on 16 August 2012, 19:20
kells i wana see some vids of it!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 August 2012, 21:35
kells i wana see some vids of it!!

I can't take videos and drive at the same time but I'll see what I can do  :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 August 2012, 22:55
Just been on the motorway Jesus the thing is so fast !

Engine sounds completely different to before. Burbles away and when u plant the foot the external waste gate make the most evil sound ever haha

Insaine!!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 16 August 2012, 23:08
Just been on the motorway Jesus the thing is so fast !

Engine sounds completely different to before. Burbles away and when u plant the foot the external waste gate make the most evil sound ever haha

Insaine!!!

VIDEO!, stick on a phone holder on the windscreen or something, or get a passenger!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 16 August 2012, 23:12
I'll pop round & be a camera man :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: LazyLunatic on 17 August 2012, 00:21
kells i wana see some vids of it!!

I can't take videos and drive at the same time but I'll see what I can do  :evil:

duct tape and cable ties'l sort that ;)

Standard :)


Hope to see this soon bud! Edition!?!?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: BISSONE on 17 August 2012, 08:06
Wat do you think the 0-60 is then? Are we in the 4 second region? Only thing that would make ur car better is if it was a syncro!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 17 August 2012, 15:01
Defo. German eBay VR6 Syncro donor vehicle?  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: leigh_harty on 17 August 2012, 16:25
Defo. German eBay VR6 Syncro donor vehicle?  :lipsrsealed:

but keep it 2.9  :tongue:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 17 August 2012, 16:31
I'd rather have this engine tbh and it'd obviously be LHD as well which is sh!t.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: leigh_harty on 17 August 2012, 16:35
True that but a vrt syncro must get the senses tingling  :evil:

Can you not convert the steering wheel to the correct side?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 August 2012, 18:00
No way would I
Trade this lump for a VR !! Nothing against VR but they are not for me

This engine is just perfection in my eyes, for need synchro because the wavetrac LSD is doing a grand job  :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: BISSONE on 17 August 2012, 19:10
No way would I
Trade this lump for a VR !! Nothing against VR but they are not for me

This engine is just perfection in my eyes, for need synchro because the wavetrac LSD is doing a grand job  :evil:

Totally agree with that sort of power no need, even with the LSD imagine the cornering with 4 wheel drive. A mate of mine had a well tuned jap imported Evo 6 and Oh My Days! Never been in anything so fun in all my life grinning like an idiot as soon as you sat in it.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Gavv8 on 17 August 2012, 19:17
We sooo need a video of this.....rolling shots......cool music.......and and and .........
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 August 2012, 21:30
ill get a video..   :evil:

still cant get over how brutal it is
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wazzzer on 17 August 2012, 21:33
and that's WITHOUT the custom map  :smug:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 August 2012, 21:46
and that's WITHOUT the custom map  :smug:

yea thats what we was thinking.. honestly this thing scares me!!

a Saffy Cossie modded up tried to play with us last night, he droped foot whilst side by side.. so i just planted my foot in 3rd gear and he was like a tiny spec in my mirror 5 seconds later  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: sharki786 on 17 August 2012, 23:39
kells stop farking c0ck teasing us and get a vid up man. Get ben (if i got the right person) in vr and tell him to keep up!!! lol
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: BISSONE on 17 August 2012, 23:42
Quick question, how did you get your gearbox so clean before you painted it? also what primer did you use if any? just asking as you seemed to get a good finish.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 August 2012, 17:55
Well as some already know the MTM turbo upgrade kit and the Integrated Engineering Rods are installed.

Here are a few random shots from the work we did

Porsche Tuned Audi RS2 Turbo – K24 7200 

(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/6003/imageccf.jpg)

(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3045/imagexndw.jpg)

took engine to bits, to install Integrated Engineering Forged conrods, built entire engine back up with all new gaskets and bolts etc.

 (http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/8113/imagearyp.jpg)

Removed Standard Rods

(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1074/imagecwi.jpg)

Forged rods installed with new (Genuine Audi) Races and ARP bolts (much needed as this is the most stressed bolt in the whole engine

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/9637/imageycgh.jpg)

Head was now on the bench,

(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/572/imagehyyd.jpg)

Head with MTM high flow manifold, Audi RS2 External Waste gate and the Turbo mounted up

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5849/imagezeax.jpg)

Spent what felt like forever draining all old oil from the head, and also the old head gasket residue from both surfaces

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1765/imageafoq.jpg)

Engine as expected was in very good order inside with it been 40 odd thousand miles

Testing the fit of the downpipe we had to make up to get this kit to fit.. The Miltek made item that came with the MTM kit was made for the Audi S3 and was fouling on my engine mount..

Kim collngs of QST (UK MTM Agent) had to have these made up because the MTM kit was based on Left hand drive cars and their downpipe will not fit a Right had drive set up

it was terribly made as most Miltek stuff is IMO. Really am amazed they sell so many systems.. some very bad welds and terribly rough finish, with odd sized bits of pipe randomly used…
 glad it didn’t fit TBH haha!

Here is the offending item. I used the flanges though, so cheers Miltek

(http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/7716/imagezch.jpg)



(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9643/imageydc.jpg)

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3605/imagewbz.jpg)

Had a Flange lazer cut in stainless to match the current join on my existing  downpipe where it meets the rest of my system

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5869/imagenegy.jpg)


Decided to vent the External waste gate externally under the car, not for the noise but to help keep the flow in the downpipe smooth and also heat temps to a bare minimum

These are the pipes that we came up with

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7902/imageqllv.jpg)


I had to rebuild the Waste gate. The diaphragm was shot. Sourced a genuine Audi RS2 item which was not a easy job!  £70 later I had one in my hands

Old

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9427/imagevuw.jpg)

New

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7183/imagevfv.jpg)

and then rebuilt the whole housing using new fasteners etc. also gave it a coat of black paint on the actual cast body..
Left the Cap in its Natural Metal finish for that OEM look

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7835/imagevsu.jpg)

Head was mounted back on the car. The turbo only just fit in the bay!

(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/4445/imagexhj.jpg)

I modified my TIP so the pipe was the same diameter right down to the inlet of the turbo.. all the ones available to buy for K04 etc. bottle neck down in size, even those 3” ones that cost a fortune have an adapter with a tiny bore hole (what’s the point in the extra large pipe if it cant flow into the turbo ???)

Any how, cut my tip in half, had a mandrel bend made up, full correct bore right into the turbo

(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9669/imageyutc.jpg)


Next up, I had my Charge pipe (the one that sweeps round the drivers side of the engine with the little hand logo on it) modified by having the restrictive baffle removed and a straight piece welded on. Also had to weld up one of the holes where a pipe originally joined to the N75 valve (this now joins to the external waste gate instead

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3225/imageegu.jpg)

Modified rear engine mount bracket to clear my new downpipe, also had this strengthened whilst I was at it

(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7548/imagecqx.jpg)

Sent the ECU away to Kim Collins at QST for the MTM map to be loaded up… he didn’t have the correct file for my late engine so MTM in Germany had to sort this and send him the file

I opened up the ECU on its return, u can see the chip in the middle with the barcode sticker on it

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/976/imageesuj.jpg)

(this will be getting replaced by a custom map)

The power is quoted to be between 325 and 345 bhp with this map..  the turbo can flow to 360bhp

Found a load of boost leaks on some pipes which are a nightmare to get to, these were only recently replaced with genuine items so iv now fitted Forge silicone items.. these are not visible when looking into the bay as they are located under the inlet

£35 for some tiny pipes felt like a rip off but needs must

(http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/9166/imagevkx.jpg)

Standard 380cc S3 injectors next to the MTM modified 540CC

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7172/imagermdt.jpg)

I had these ultrasonically cleaned and flow tested before I fitted as I didn’t know the history of them

Oil return line that came with the kit looked to be slightly too small bore.. when compared to the outlet hole on the turbo so I had one made up locally with the same size bore as the hole on the turbo

You can just make out the difference in size

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/736/imageuer.jpg)


I had a lot of issues getting this kit to fit, it was by no means a easy install due to the nature of the kit which is basically a set up made by Porsche to use on the Audi RS2, then modified by MTM to fit on a Audi S3 8L… then modified here in the UK by us to fit a Golf mk3 with a  S3 engine!!

But its been massively worthwhile,, this car is an absolute animal. Never have I been in a car so wild in my life.

The engine note has changed from sounding tame to a burble on normal driving , the turbo just sounds fantastic, once you hit 4k revs the thing goes ballistic and the Waste gate just makes  what I can only describe as a crazy arsed bark..

Here is the engine back together and in the car

You can see the external waste gate poking up at the back of the engine 

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/542/imageoeq.jpg)

(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7619/imagekbm.jpg)

(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/1603/imagerryb.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: luke on 19 August 2012, 18:01
not even got my mk2 yet and seeing your car makes me want to hand over the keys and let you go nuts on it!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 August 2012, 18:04
cheers matey.. you know where i am if u ever need that special touch for your mk2  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: bobbarley on 19 August 2012, 18:10
As always, completely insane. love it!!  Can't believe this is inside a mk3!  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 August 2012, 18:15
As always, completely insane. love it!!  Can't believe this is inside a mk3!  :grin:

thanks mate

not alot of people can believe it either, was a few surprised faces at VW festival today. :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tdi_blu on 19 August 2012, 18:33
As ive said before that engine looks like it came out of the factory in that car and what I like is its a daily driver where most people who spend this kinda money and time would only bring it out show time great work as always Kell :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 August 2012, 18:35
Thanks mate. lots of people have said the same to me, especially today at VW fest, but built this car to be used/enjoyed as it should be

Give it alot of time and effort keeping everything looking fresh..  OCD Lol :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tdi_blu on 19 August 2012, 18:43
No fair play to you I remember the odd doubter a while back soon shut them up  :smug:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 19 August 2012, 19:33
Thanks mate. lots of people have said the same to me, especially today at VW fest, but built this car to be used/enjoyed as it should be

Give it alot of time and effort keeping everything looking fresh..  OCD Lol :laugh:

You really should have put it in the show & shine, miles better than any mk3 that was in there!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 August 2012, 20:33
thanks mate :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: scarr89 on 19 August 2012, 21:06
Any completed pictures yet Kells *cough cough*.   

 :sick:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: luke on 19 August 2012, 22:03
cheers matey.. you know where i am if u ever need that special touch for your mk2  :cool:
may be in touch with you next year  :wink:
going to sort the bodywork out first and get the welder out
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 20 August 2012, 08:59
Any completed pictures yet Kells *cough cough*.   

 :sick:


Pictures are up matey. Take a look back a page ;-)

Wolverine, it is on the cards next is a catch can. Just don't really want it visible in the bay
Any ideas ?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Seanl on 20 August 2012, 09:07
Spot on Brad, glad you got that mount reinforced as I'd be pretty worried chopping that much metal off it with that much torque! I know its a rear, and not under the same amount of stress, but still I'd be forever thinking about it.  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 20 August 2012, 10:13
Spot on Brad, glad you got that mount reinforced as I'd be pretty worried chopping that much metal off it with that much torque! I know its a rear, and not under the same amount of stress, but still I'd be forever thinking about it.  :grin:

My thoughts totally mate, they are a box section for a reason and I would just not feel happy with leaving it. I guess many people would but not me. Not worth the risk at all.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 20 August 2012, 10:22
Wolverine, it is on the cards next is a catch can. Just don't really want it visible in the bay
Any ideas ?

IMO the best way to mount them is like this:

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/patb303/IMG_0287.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/patb303/PCV/IMG_0294.jpg)

Taken from:

http://uk-mkvs.net/forums/t/269734.aspx (http://uk-mkvs.net/forums/t/269734.aspx)

Obviously it will be slightly different on yours, but I'm sure you could still mount it in a similar way :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 20 August 2012, 10:31
Fook me, do you ever stop upgrading this motor!  :grin:  Must say it's looking great.

Good link from Dom, that setup does look very OEM and would suit your car very well.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 20 August 2012, 11:25
Yeah that looks good. I could live with that
I'm gonna do this mod next

Cheers for help guys ;-)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 20 August 2012, 11:34
Yeah that looks good. I could live with that
I'm gonna do this mod next

Cheers for help guys ;-)

Another example from our very own forum.. :afro:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=88989.msg1264525#msg1264525
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 20 August 2012, 11:46
That looks ideal, Dom.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 20 August 2012, 11:57
Cheers for input folks
Will sort something out and get on this  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: scarr89 on 20 August 2012, 16:35
Any completed pictures yet Kells *cough cough*.   

 :sick:


Pictures are up matey. Take a look back a page ;-)

Wolverine, it is on the cards next is a catch can. Just don't really want it visible in the bay
Any ideas ?

Ooppps. Just found em, such good work!! :cool:!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: leigh_harty on 20 August 2012, 20:08
Whats a better word that epic?  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 20 August 2012, 20:33
thanks matey appreciate the good comments because it was such a huge effort doing all this.. not many people actually get to see what goes into it to make it what it is!

was nice at VW festival, had some mk3 haters blown away by the whole car.. even saiid it was the best one they had ever seen and the best car of the show LOL!!!  now i wouldnt go that far but its nice to hear that sort of thing
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wazzzer on 20 August 2012, 20:39
Catch can is well worth doing, just rids the engine of all those pipes that are prone to crack
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 20 August 2012, 20:45
Catch can is well worth doing, just rids the engine of all those pipes that are prone to crack

deffo gonna do this mate, will be coming soon, cheers for the help/tips/heads up  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: leigh_harty on 20 August 2012, 20:54
How long till you get official whp figures?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 20 August 2012, 20:55
How long till you get official whp figures?

hopefully not long mate, going to get it custom mapped at the same time probaly so we have a before and afters all in 1

just getting used to it at the moment still.. and making sure everything is sweet before we take things a little further
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: scarr89 on 20 August 2012, 21:02
Could/would you consider getting launch control? With that LSD that would be sweet!! :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 20 August 2012, 21:12
i would yeah deffo... not sure if i can ?  sounds good to me tho :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 20 August 2012, 21:19
Awesome, no better word sums it up :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 20 August 2012, 21:21
Awesome, no better word sums it up :cool:

cheers wayne mate  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: LowlifeDubber on 21 August 2012, 18:29
Just had my quarterly read of your thread mate(i like to save it for a long read)
Fantastic work mate as usual.

Couple of questions.
Are you purging your pipework when you weld?
Isnt your rear engine mount cast alloy?How did you go about strenghtening it?

Anyway great work mate,look forward to seeing this in the flesh. :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 August 2012, 21:32
yes always purged with argon on the welds on the stainless steel for the Exhaust parts

regarding the bracket, 
if you look closely at the pictures of the engine bracket you will see how it was done. quite a bit had to be cut away which meant it lost its box section strength.. to overcome this i had a solid piece welded inside and them smoothed off from the outside

(http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/3240/imagetxn.jpg)

(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7548/imagecqx.jpg)

(http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/8039/imageiba.jpg)



Had a play with what turned out to be a 400bhp Evo.. and came out on top!!!  car is such a animal!!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: boneybradley on 21 August 2012, 22:07
you do know I'm bringing my dirty Pssat for some of your tender care in the next few weeks..... your cleaning ocd is bad!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: LazyLunatic on 22 August 2012, 10:55
Awesome mate, looking forward to seeing this! I can't believe how OEM the bay looks still, fair play.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 22 August 2012, 11:29
cheers mate. did my best to keep the OEM theme going  :smiley:

Boney, you witnessed the OCD in full effect haha
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Khare on 22 August 2012, 11:52
This is such a great read. Nice to see there's a Mk3 high up in the list of the great builds on this forum, and many more forums too. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't jealous.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: funkyfive on 23 August 2012, 10:50
Brad, I have you got an AFR yet?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 August 2012, 22:45
first drive shaft broke today LOL, well, it was the CV joint snapped straight in 2 pieces

all fixed now tho.. nice way to spend a raining Saturday nite :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 25 August 2012, 23:16
first drive shaft broke today LOL, well, it was the CV joint snapped straight in 2 pieces

all fixed now tho.. nice way to spend a raining Saturday nite :grin:

Whoops....  :grin:

What do you reckon, not strong enough for the power, bad angle due to the cars height or just unlucky?.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 August 2012, 23:19
well it was the passenger side one, which i recently swapped for a MK4 item (i think they are of a poor quality compared to older mk3 GTI ones

i did notice for a while some grease splattering (tiny) we think the CV joint was worn... and the power has just killed it off

My old GTI one is now back on, inspected it prior to fitment and no play in either of the joints, see how it goes
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 25 August 2012, 23:22
well it was the passenger side one, which i recently swapped for a MK4 item (i think they are of a poor quality compared to older mk3 GTI ones

i did notice for a while some grease splattering (tiny) we think the CV joint was worn... and the power has just killed it off

My old GTI one is now back on, inspected it prior to fitment and no play in either of the joints, see how it goes

The older the stronger eh?  :grin:

What's the alternative if that doesn't hold out?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 26 August 2012, 00:13
Just hear and see a lot of mk4 cars snapping shafts
Seems the newer they get the more corners are cut with cars these days

And I dunno.. Keep a good stock of drive shafts I guess  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: LazyLunatic on 26 August 2012, 00:51
Just hear and see a lot of mk4 cars snapping shafts
Seems the newer they get the more corners are cut with cars these days

And I dunno.. Keep a good stock of drive shafts I guess  :grin:

Standard.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: DanChave on 26 August 2012, 08:23
Just caught up with this and all I can say is WOW! I thought this thing was epic before but now its just crazy! Sorry to hear about the driveshaft, I hope the mk3 one holds up for you :) any news on that video?............
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: jinx on 05 September 2012, 10:45
My gearbox mount bracket snapped in half last week, engine got some gangster lean on.
Happened 10 mins before we were gonna set of for VWAction :/

Anyways,  i'm interested in what engine mounts you run, and if you are gonna strengthen any mount brackets in urs now you have got more power.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 05 September 2012, 11:38
My gearbox mount bracket snapped in half last week, engine got some gangster lean on.
Happened 10 mins before we were gonna set of for VWAction :/

Anyways,  i'm interested in what engine mounts you run, and if you are gonna strengthen any mount brackets in urs now you have got more power.

The mount that takes most punishment is driver side rear and this is what Iv had strengthened
Look back through my pics

I'd say your issue is due to a faulty or old mount with too much movement

I always like to replace mounts With new engines
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VonGrun on 05 September 2012, 12:43
Rediculous, dangerous, mental, absurd, outrageous, preposterous...

...A few words that spring to mind after I had the pleasure of riding shotgun
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 05 September 2012, 14:12
 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 10 October 2012, 23:14
Had a issue with the tarmac, sump survived just the plating i had welded on now has a huge dent in it
(http://imageshack.us/a/img546/1125/img4302io.jpg)


engine mount braket didn't survive,

(http://imageshack.us/a/img716/5180/img4320d.jpg)

seems it had a weak point which iv now had re designed and subject to a strength test at Sulzer Pumps (Leeds) where the head engineer modified the Bracket for me (he is a engine builder type)

here is the new type mount still retains the needed clearance for the bigger Turbo i have fitted and the downpipes which make a normal mount bracket non useable

(http://imageshack.us/a/img713/8081/img4308x.jpg)

finished off and painted up

(http://imageshack.us/a/img833/8941/img4313lm.jpg)

looks OEM

Also fitted the 2.0TFSI coilpacks out of the newer S3's etc as they are more reliable especially on a Bigger turboed 1.8T car. can also run a bigger Gap on the spark plug

Had to use adapters to fit them as they are around 14mm taler than the normal 1.8T coil packs

(http://imageshack.us/a/img835/6317/img4368a.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img547/2295/img4369u.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/547/img4369u.jpg/)

Lastly i finally fitted my Annie gear knob to my MK4 shifter, and cut down the shaft some more
Big Shouts to  my mate and all round top dude Junior (MJ INTERIORS) for kindly  Retrimming the leather on the top half of the ball for me Free of charge

(http://imageshack.us/a/img231/9214/img4371t.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: DCmk3 on 10 October 2012, 23:22
Ouch, poor tarmac!  :grin: How on earth did it even make contact?
Oh and that engine mount, isn't that the one you chopped a chunk out of?  :whistle:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 10 October 2012, 23:25
think their was something in the road as it was complete flat tarmac

and yea it was the very mount, made a error in cutting a square angular line out of it, needs to be a curve to take the stress

maybe it gave way meaning the engine hit the floor or the sump did  ? who knows, luckily the break wedged together so movement was only around 1CM

lucky ? probably

all good now tho, new braket has been subject to a correct strength and shock test
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: DCmk3 on 10 October 2012, 23:29
Ah, that's possible that the mount basically jammed together and the engine just tapped the ground.
Just to think of it, if the engine had dropped completely to the floor it may have destroyed all of the mounts and other items..  :undecided:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 11 October 2012, 19:59
Only trouble is, what will give next time if it happens? :/
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 11 October 2012, 21:25
wont happen again, it really was down to the mount, and a weak point i had given it

school boy error :lipsrsealed:


just ordered newer coilpacks than the ones iv just fitted, should be here in a day or so
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dragongreengolfgti on 11 October 2012, 22:18
this is good brad lovin every update at the mo shame about the mount but like you say till something happens you can't really tell its a weak point! glad you have sorted it  :smiley: i have decided to go for a turbo on my abf and will keep you upto speed with progress  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 11 October 2012, 23:05
wont happen again, it really was down to the mount, and a weak point i had given it

school boy error :lipsrsealed:


just ordered newer coilpacks than the ones iv just fitted, should be here in a day or so

Nah I mean if the car bottoms out again, what's the next point to go sorta thing?

Quality build though, wish I had the funds!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 October 2012, 10:04
You could say that about any car though as there will always be a weakest point regardless.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 October 2012, 17:18
Cheers for replys folks

Car is immense

No print outs yet as its still awaiting mapping

Next on my list  :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 18 October 2012, 18:19
Updated the 2.0TFSI coilpacks to latest revision items

(http://imageshack.us/a/img513/5377/img4437b.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/513/img4437b.jpg/)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img694/4605/img4441i.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/img4441i.jpg/)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img685/4930/img4440sm.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/img4440sm.jpg/)



Also switched to a colder Spark plug which i should have really done a while ago, much better for high power / Bigger Turbo application

the legendary NGK 7's

(http://imageshack.us/a/img141/3771/img4444.JPG) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/141/img4444.JPG/)


Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Itteh on 19 October 2012, 01:54
Your car is looking like pure madness !! i wish i could do all that to mine, dont have the funds.... and i dont think i ever will.... totally jealous of ur interior lights in the first page..... tried getting rid of my green interior bulbs and lights buh EPIC Fail, the heater controls dont light up anymore at all, the clocks wudnt work with the led's i bought of fleabay but they did work when local car electrician tried them out.  and im not clever enough to change the window switch colors and all them..... any tips on how to do them ? or a couple of beer cans your way and you could like help loool....
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wazzzer on 21 October 2012, 12:21
Brad any idea how the NGK 7s compare to IK22s in terms of heat spec?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 21 October 2012, 13:48
Brad any idea how the NGK 7s compare to IK22s in terms of heat spec?

They are specced for the same heat range. I have IK22's gapped at 0.7mm. (the gap is important) Just depends on the material. The ik22's are iridium and you can get different flavours of the 7's. Copper are meant to perform best but the downside is more regular changes.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 October 2012, 14:51
Copper all the way for big power / turbo much better for the heat

the iridium / platinum are only coated to last longer anyhow

they cost like a couple of quid each so im just gonna change every oil change  (5k miles)

now I'm running the TFSI coils I'm going to widen my Spark gap up too 
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wazzzer on 21 October 2012, 16:31
Cheers guys - I can get a set of the NGK 7s for under a tenner; for that price I don't mind changing them every year with my service
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: DanChave on 24 October 2012, 07:59
Savage with what happened with the engine mount dude, lucky you had the sump plated up though eh? I think I will pick up a steel sump to plate up for my next oil change...... And I bet your glad this happened to your car and not a customer's eh? At least now, you can have confidence in the engine mount design should anyone want a car built that would need one :)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 05 November 2012, 21:44
Had a issue with what felt like a misfire.. turned out it was a school boy error on my part. with mine been a very late year engine it has a EGT probe that actually controls the fuelling, earlier S3's don't have this and seen as my MTM kit was originally on a early S3 it never had it.. I assumed I didn't need to run it with the new set up and MTM map  (and Kim at QST the UK MTM dealer also never mentioned i needed to run it)

In a nutshell I do need it. So off came the downpipe (What a Bas tard that was  :grin:) and thanks the Bill @ badger 5, who sent me a bung to weld in the probe and also gave me advice on where to locate it and the settings needed to adjust the fuelling side of my ECU  (top guy)
The probe is right on the flange near the outlet to the turbo, its about 100 degrees away from its OEM location hence the need to adjust my Fulling setting son my map. Standard is 920 degrees, Bill has told me i need to adjust this down to 850 degrees.

while the downpipe was off i decided to also weld in a bung for a Air Fuel ratio meter too which ill fit at a later date

Bill told me my car would be running rich without the probe and also very slow (it was fast as a mo fo) 

any how, he wss right it is certainly much faster now  (i didnt think that possible tbh :laugh:)

This whole probelm only came when i fixed some boost leaks, one of which was huge. this will have been making it lean, but the probe not been installed for the EGT will have been making it rich so counter balancing it out and masking any issues..  soon as the boost leaks were fixed it was just running rich hence the miss fire feeling (actually protection from ECU from dumping too much fuel)

all sorted now, car just awaiting custom mapping.

Drove it saturday tho, fast as fooookery and no black sutt on my tailpipes which i was getting when running rich..  happy days  :smiley:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img221/8120/img4507f.jpg)

Downpipe, had this bung welded here for AFR meter

(http://imageshack.us/a/img221/4779/img4518f.jpg)

Here is the EGT probe and control box

(http://imageshack.us/a/img210/1394/img4543.png)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img689/1008/img4544.png)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CJA321 on 05 November 2012, 22:03
Top work as always Brad  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 22 November 2012, 17:26
Just a small update..

had Nick (from Carbon) adjust the fueling side of my map to accommodate the change of locatiion of the EGT probe (as per Bill of Badger 5's advice)

Nick also did some small tweeks to the MTM map, car feel amazingly good...  as a demonstration it made a Astra VXR Nubergring edition look like he was in reverse gear.. pure savage and thisis still only at 10 - 11psi :shocked:

once i get the AFR meter in the car we will go all out, so will be near the 20 psi mark and god knows what BHP.. 

will do the last few tweeks of the map on the rolling road
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 09 December 2012, 21:54
Well the sump finally gave in after months of abuse

surprisingly the modified bottom survived (even tho this part was already scuffed badly from previous encounters) but hitting a hump in the road at 20MPH caused it to crack u the side of the sump - a area thats not altered from standard

the scuffs to the underside after from a year of daily use and abuse

the crack is right up the side of the sump plug

Lost all my week old oil and this happened about 1.30AM on on Saturday nite / sunday morning


(http://imageshack.us/a/img248/5011/img4691i.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img11/9781/img4690kc.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img547/6890/img4692t.jpg)


A MK2 Version sump is now been made... this eill be a shortened version, i currently have a Doctor of engineering making this for me, and doing it so i can run the correct amount of oil unlike other shallow sumps

more on this soon

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tweed on 10 December 2012, 18:33
So have you raised the engine yet?

Looks like you may need air  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 10 December 2012, 18:42
dry sump it and go lower  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 10 December 2012, 18:54
Cant raise the lump Tweed mate.. the engine is a lot taler than the old 8v lump and to keep the OEM engine cover its just not possible (millimetres to spare)

Dry sump would be the perfect solution or Air yeah Hmmmmm

for now ill check out how this modified MK2 sump fairs.. 
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 10 December 2012, 18:58
How many sump pans have you been through kells?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 10 December 2012, 19:37
I have 2 that i kept getting repaired, when one was damaged the other went on and wise versa

forgot how many times the sump has been off, but i can change them in the dark in under a hour now..  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: DCmk3 on 10 December 2012, 20:25
I wonder how lubricated the roads are thanks to your sumps..  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 10 December 2012, 20:26
just been reading this thread from start to er skimming the rest (it's epic lol), and i have to say i'm definitely going to try and get a black mk3 for my (crash) replacement! looks real nice man :)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 10 December 2012, 21:34
cheers mate

Black ones are the best ones

took me a while to find a good one :-)


and yeah, the roads of yorkshire have some expensive oil on them haha  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Junior74 on 10 December 2012, 21:37
Brilliant!!!!

Definitely gets my vote for air...
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: BISSONE on 10 December 2012, 21:51
Sump guard perhaps?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Seanl on 10 December 2012, 22:06
Sump guard perhaps?

What you mean like the one thats already on there?  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 10 December 2012, 22:17
 :grin: yea got that and the t shirt, sump guard saved the bottom but due to its strength it's made the sump break in other places

New sump should be modified this week, well when I say new I mean one of my current ones chopped about
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 09 January 2013, 18:13
Smal update

car has been off the road for the last 4 weeks due to the damage sump and awaiting for the modified one to be completed

we could not take as much off as we first wanted due to the way the crank and oil pump hand down (see pic below) 

so we copied the shallow sump but took things a bit further

this picture shows the modified on the left and the normal on the right, the pink highlights the proble, area on the original..
The way it sits on the car is not how it looks laid flat because the engine is on a tilt, this meaning the problem area thst highlighted in pink points towards the floor!!!!, we wanted to get rid of this.

try let these pics do the talking

modified on left, original on right - the pink shows problem area that takes a serious beating

(http://imageshack.us/a/img819/341/img4850je.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img856/4044/sumpw.jpg)

again, modified one is on the left

(http://imageshack.us/a/img594/6541/img4852p.jpg)


Original on the car, picture taken with car elevated on axle stands

(http://imageshack.us/a/img27/6361/img4861dy.jpg)

Same angle and level, but here is the modified sump
 
(http://imageshack.us/a/img706/8549/img4858nx.jpg)


And here is the reason we cant go any more shallow in the centre, pic shows same angle again but no sump

(http://imageshack.us/a/img845/8858/img4859a.jpg)

The sump never made any impacts on the centre piece, but we will see if this now causes a issue

the sump had been modified using 5mm plating, the oil return line attachment is still to be added as is the sump plug, pics to come on this in next few days

Its been calculated to get the correct 4.7litres the engine needs, will show 1.mm over the max line on the dipstick.. everything has been calculated by a doctor of engineering

He would not modify the sump until he knew we could run the correct amount of oil, he told me running any less than manufactures levels on a turbo car is just stupid as the oil will get too hot, especially on my application with the bigger turbo..


the 1.8T shallow sumps you can buy loose over half litre of oil, this one wont and i have more clearance than one of those still

anyhow more pics to come of the finished item

also got a Air Fuel ratio set up installed now including a turbo timer.. more on this soon too

Can wait to get it back on the road and fully custom mapped
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: DCmk3 on 09 January 2013, 18:43
Now that's some serious work and some good looking design, hope it turns out to be your savior sump bud.  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Junior74 on 09 January 2013, 18:52
Car Porn!!!!!! Love it...
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 09 January 2013, 22:26
cheers guys

cant wait to get it back out where it belongs... on the road   :cool:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: jonrandom on 09 January 2013, 23:13
Defo some good work, like it  :cool:

If that doesn't work get a oil cooler without thermo then could reduce the sump and still have enough oil flowing round.  :smiley: :grin:

Hope it works mate your car defo need to be on the road!  :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: DanChave on 13 January 2013, 21:49
Great stuff as usual bud, I look forward to seeing how the new sump fairs :)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 January 2013, 22:58
Not got my Hybrid sump back yet

but i noticed a issue with my uber rare 160 mph anniversary clocks

so i had to rip them apart - no pics..


anyhow it meant i had to use a full new mother board for them, meaning new Blue SMD chips for behind the miles and clock / MFA displays,

No problem...


only issue was the mileage on the new mothernboard was 187k

i wanted my miles off my clocks, so i found out that this chip is where the miles are stored on the late mk3 clocks

its a 8 pin eprom, tiny, iv put a pink ring around it, this is the one with my milegage that i want to keep

(http://imageshack.us/a/img28/8708/25426795.jpg)

and here is the donor mother board

(http://imageshack.us/a/img46/3251/img4877y.jpg)

and here they are back in the car showing my original mileage..

Bad pic i know - just cant focus on the displays due to brightness

(http://imageshack.us/a/img854/8483/img4901l.jpg)

Now thats a bad boy party trick on how to keep your original mileage but change the clocks without having to go pay £50 to some dude to flash them / illegally clock them etc


shouts to ben for the desolder of chip and use of MAHOOSIVE magnifier 

 :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: sharki786 on 15 January 2013, 23:08
The pink needles and lines look awesomeeeee :laugh:
I actualy said holy shooot :grin:
Keep it going mate
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tweed on 15 January 2013, 23:09
Lovely job so you swapped chips?

Hard job?  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 January 2013, 23:16
If you can get to the chip

Then it's not too hard just faffy

But you have to get down to the bare motherboard and that means de solder of both LCD screens

I broke a screen and replaced with a spare, the spare turned out to be faulty so repaired my original broke screen and had to then Take back to bit to fit my original screen haha

A right mess about  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 15 January 2013, 23:28
How the HELL did you find that one out! :grin:

Nice one! :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 January 2013, 23:32
Has to be worth some serious scene points eh :grin:

Was a gamble if it would work and it paid off
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 16 January 2013, 00:05
Has to be worth some serious scene points eh :grin:

Was a gamble if it would work and it paid off

Absolutely love the approach of "it's possible".

Rav I bought had a knackered ECU and people charge £250 to sort them. No info on web but just digging and digging with a multimeter til I find a couple of dodgy solder joints, solder them and job done.

What was up with the old clocks dude?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 January 2013, 08:49
The original clocks had some damage to the circuit board that was non repairable

I had to use some parts off them tho for the new clocks as I had a damaged capacitor on those plus a display was no good as I mentioned above

I managed to break the LCD I needed off the original clocks but later repaired that and re fitted to the new clocks

Bit confusing I know ha! But now have a mint working set with my original miles


And the "it's possible" approach Is how me and Ben always work

This mk3 may look pretty OEM on the outside but the engine is far from it, we was told by many people the MTM / audi RS2 turbo, manifold and waste here kit was a deffinate non possibility

We made it fit and work as I should and tho means its the only golf in he world with this set up

Unique in every way

Not everyone will like 1.8t power but I'm my opinion respect has to be made due to the originality of the route we took

 :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 16 January 2013, 11:00
Good find with the clocks and keeping the mileage :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 20 January 2013, 20:47
Hard working outside in the cold, had to clear the drive of the snow etc, but sump will be back with me wednesday, had to make some adjustments to the drain plug location, thanks to ben who has made a wicked little extension boss.. ill get some pics when the sump arrives back

On axle stands

(http://imageshack.us/a/img338/2397/img4927l.jpg)

also got my display for my Air fuel ratio / turbo timer / volt meter in place. flush mointed into the lower dash panel  (goes below the headlight switch area

will get this fitted into the car tomo so ill get more pics of this working

(http://imageshack.us/a/img692/4103/img4931q.jpg)

car has been off the road the last 5 weeks, will be back on the road next week
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 20 January 2013, 21:39
Sod laying under a car in this weather.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: benvictors on 20 January 2013, 21:58
Lovely job so you swapped chips?

Hard job?  :laugh:


Massive magnifying glass, sharp pointed soldering iron and a very steady hand  :grin:

We are gonna collect a load of different clocks, 8v, 16v and VR6 to see what chips can be exchanged.
We have already established that the early 8v Motometer clocks are an entirely different chip to the 16v clocks and the VR clocks are the same chip as the 16v clocks, gonna try swap over the VR an 16v chips this week at some point to see if they are compatible  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 January 2013, 12:25
AFR wired in and all working

(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/1017/img4934m.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/img4934m.jpg/)

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 21 January 2013, 13:13
Tidy.  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tweed on 21 January 2013, 13:19
Looks great  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 21 January 2013, 13:25
Very neat and tidy :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: BISSONE on 21 January 2013, 14:56
Didnt think your car had ABS?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 January 2013, 15:16
cheers guys

it has no airbag either  :grin:

the original trim bit that was their had a great big daft LED for the original alarm in it, so i just replaced the trim with one from a car we broke that was a late car, hence the ABS/and airbag logo/lights
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 21 January 2013, 15:57
cheers guys

it has no airbag either  :grin:

the original trim bit that was their had a great big daft LED for the original alarm in it, so i just replaced the trim with one from a car we broke that was a late car, hence the ABS/and airbag logo/lights

As with everything else on this build, looks almost factory fitted :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: stow1985 on 21 January 2013, 20:32
Thought Id catch up with some old projects can't believe this is still going...awesome!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 21 January 2013, 20:41
Always tweeking and improving it mate

sleeping is cheating gotta keep it moving  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 27 January 2013, 22:13
The sump is back and now on the car

its filled with Castrols most expensive oil (Edge FST 5W - 30 ) which is what Audi recommend for the high output engines, not cheap but needs must

sump is a piece of kit, loads of clearence - subframe is now lowest point :smiley:

shouts to ben for the aluminium boss which was made in double quick time to save the day - and still uses a original OEM Audi sump plug

(has to be mounted on the outside of the sump due to the pulley for oil pump been inside the sump in same area, and that goes right to the bottom of the sump so would foul if we was to weld anything on the inside
The boss is the same width as the OEM sump plug so the inside dimensions of the sump where the pulley sits are unchanged

here you can see the boss for oil drain

(http://imageshack.us/a/img62/8736/img4953q.jpg)

Here you can see new boss relocation for oil return. which also retains original angle of flow but now with larger hole for oil

(http://imageshack.us/a/img837/5219/img4950m.jpg)

And as you can see, we even still have the oil level sensor fitted

(http://imageshack.us/a/img338/479/img4954c.jpg)

On the car (on axle stands - no engine under cover fitted here yet

(http://imageshack.us/a/img38/7845/img4960.JPG)

Will get a picture tomorrow (or try to) of it with the car sat on the ground with engine undercover fitted


Feels good to be back behind the wheel of this car.. Brutal

(http://imageshack.us/a/img195/6775/img4977x.jpg)



Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 28 January 2013, 08:23
Think it's about time we got to see this car in motion.  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 28 January 2013, 08:55
Think it's about time we got to see this car in motion.  :wink:

Ben did a video when he was behind me once but dunno what happened to that

Next stop is Nick from Carbona house for some remapping

And also a updated fuel pump
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Itteh on 28 January 2013, 22:02
seen you driving it today on leeds road, noticed the numberplate..  :drool: looked lethal and it was going pretty (fast)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 29 January 2013, 10:38
Taking the gf to work, she works at the white rosé centre :-)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Gavv8 on 09 February 2013, 23:01
Yeah, still the sweetest mk3 of them all.. :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 09 February 2013, 23:06
Thanks mate, means lots to me does that :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: hotgolf1 on 03 April 2013, 22:26
here is the Hotgolf Lightened and balanced flywheels next to the regular ABF one, he has machined this to suit Turbo car, which is a lot different to how he would do N/A types

Uh huh.

He took the weight off the flywheel in a different way to which he would for an NA engine?

You probably need to get some explanation on that, because grams and kilos are the same whether they're being driven by an NA motor, or a turbo motor.  :grin:

And the weight that's taken off is around the outside of the flywheel, last time I checked.

So you're out there wasting the competition on private strips yet can't make it to Inters and there's no photos or video of the car in motion?

Here's the solution.

http://www.rwyb.co.uk/dates.php

Look - there are dates all the way through til October.



Yes, I machined this flywheel different to that of a N/A engine, in that I didn't make it as light as I usually would.  I also didn't take as much weight from the outer edge where I might add, it would make more difference due to the centrifugal forces.
Grams and kilos are just a unit of weight but take them from different places and it's going to make things react differently. Taking weight off closer to the centre will have less effect than taking it off the outer edge. For example, I can remove 1kg from 2 flywheels to make them weigh the same, but the characteristics of each flywheel would be totally different.
A normally asperated 16v revving to 9k would use a light flywheel to help rev up due to the lack of low down torque( peaky cams), where as a torquey turbo engine peaking at 6500 doesn't need a super lightweight flywheel.

There'll be talk of non-revving 2.1 diesel cranks and loss of torque when using lightened flywheels next ;)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Diamond Hell on 03 April 2013, 23:37
I still don't think Dear Brad has turned up at a drag strip or track day and shown how he can waste the competition.

Is there any footage of it yet, or is it all just hollow chat?

Or do we still have that to look forward to?

Obviously no one's holding their breath, or they'd be dead by now.

And no there won't be any talk about non-revving cranks or loss of torque due to lightened flywheels, but thanks for rocking up 9months later to explain how you machine flywheels differently, that's interesting, although I'm curious to know just how much difference it makes, as most of the weight is in the outside of the flywheel and I know my lightened flywheel doesn't have much of that left.
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Post by: hotgolf1 on 04 April 2013, 07:41
Morning D/H,
Please don't think I've jumped on here 9 months later to stir a hornets nest, but just to put forward my reasons for what I've done.
I'm actually more than willing to sit down over a few pints in May when I come down for my Stag weekend. I can bring a pair of flywheels in different guises for you to look at and also bring my jig so you can see the difference removing weight fro different areas makes. If you can't wait my bro lives on Leeson Rd Ventnor and I'm pretty sure he'd be willing to talk you through the principles of inertia,dynamics and centrafugal forces on given rotational masses at different speeds. (he can send me to sleep on this so be fore-warned lol)
Mass can be removed from several areas of a flywheel, and there's alot that can be removed from within the area between the dowels and the casting numbers. Yes, more weight can be removed farther out to better effect but if you want to retain inertia but lose rotation mass you can remove from different area to gain the desired affect.
I'm not machining any differently to anyone else, I just remove from different areas, or amounts depending on the application.
My own 02a weights less than 4.75kg as it's hitting 8400rpm on a 2.1 16v, but I'd recommend 5.5-5.7ish for a turbo application. Horses for courses as they say.

I'm not going to say 'I've been doing this for 18 years ' blah blah blah, but I have gained experience from both asking questions and doing it myself through trail and error and gained enough recognition whist doing it. I have never had one go bang as I err on the side of caution but I have made errors, like machining straight through a dual mass flywheel internal spring! Lesson learnt lol

As for you Brad, get to some rolling road days and show it off mun ;)

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Post by: F17BAD on 04 April 2013, 12:58
Cheers Martin, top work by this man folks..  did a excellent job rebuilding my gearbox and fitting my Wavetrack Limited Slip diff and also the different FD, and Flywheel modification

I dont get much time on here recently due to my club events that are taking most of my life up right now, that combined with actually having a life outsife of this forum and the few Numptys that spoil it

The car was never made to be a Track car or drag strip car, however i know what damage it can do/has done..

It is currently used every day as my daily driver.
granted wont be the best on a track compaired to stuff like Evos etc, but TBH if i was to make a track car id most probabably not be chooing a ancient VW Golf  :grin:

In a straight line it easily out powers cars such as Impretza STI''s, Evos, Audi R8, remapped VXR astras, 535d,etc, maybe hard for some to believe a old 8v 5 door boat can do this but I'm not that arsed if you do or don't, it all adds to the fun :laugh:

The car was built to show what myself and Ben can do, and thats all.

Next up is a new MAF and then custom mapping

Love it or hate it, the car is a beast, and was built to a high standard.
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Post by: Dave_IOW on 04 April 2013, 17:45
What AFR gauge and probe have you gone for?
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Post by: F17BAD on 04 April 2013, 18:12
What AFR gauge and probe have you gone for?

Full Innovate Motorsports set up, didn't want a dial gauge as too hard too see accurate reading, so here is mine - bottom right of pic with red LED display

sensor is a Bosch one, cost around £200 for the whole set up

Also has turbo timer and volt meter

(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/1017/img4934m.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/img4934m.jpg/)
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Post by: Dave_IOW on 04 April 2013, 18:32
Cheers, think I'm going to go AEM anyway but always good to see what others are using :smiley:
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Post by: brett on 04 April 2013, 18:40
Looking good mate ,i do still miss my mk3 and am tempted with another  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 April 2013, 19:30
Well, may aswell keep you all up to speed on how the car has been for the last year with the Audi RS2 / MTM Turbo upgrade kit, and forged internals..

All good, in fact its better than good its just bloody awesome ! haha. Car is still on the MTM safe Map (11 psi)  and at the 345bhp setting

Im going to be fitting a Uprated fuel pump in the next month or so then its off to be custom mapped

Also had to replace a load of split hoses, with silicone, main one recently been the large breather as seen in this picture.. it is pretty cool as it replaces 3 bits all in 1 go.. it has a one way valve inside the original so i bought a new one of these whilst i was at it as these are know to leak with age, ad this fitted into the silicone pipe just as it did in the original.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img194/8796/img5378ez.jpg)

and the engine as of today, 3 years since installing in the shell and been used every day come rain, shine or snow

(http://imageshack.us/a/img13/3531/img5376n.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img195/560/img5380r.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img12/730/img5381fc.jpg)

car still looking well  :-)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img14/9159/cccmbn.jpg)

More stuff coming soon, just got a few Club night events that are coming up and needed my attention.

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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 07 April 2013, 22:28
Looking sweet as always Brad.  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 April 2013, 22:38
cheers mate

its 20 years old in august.. times flies when your having fun  :evil:
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 07 April 2013, 22:52
Hopefully soon I'll have the pleasure of seeing it in the flesh.  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 April 2013, 22:55
you know this mate "wink wink"   :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: scarr89 on 07 April 2013, 23:02
Looks a little dirty to me.  :wink:

Good job mate.  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 April 2013, 23:11
 :grin: cheers pal
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 June 2013, 11:25
Well ill bump this up as its getting ready for the next few modifications, which are a secondary uprated fuel pump.
I say secondary as the original stays in the tank and the secondary one will be going inline. The company who make these have advised me this is the best route for me to take with my set up even though they make a direct replacement for my car. will have more on this when i get it.

Also need to fit a slightly larger front mount intercooler as mine is now on its BHP limits and im geting the car custom mapped soon   :laugh:


Also toying with the idea of a TT dash swap... Do i ?  Dont  I ? :whistle:


Had a split top rad hose the other day, happened at + 100 MPH speeds and made a mess.. But in my true OCD ways, its all back to its super clean former glory.  :laugh:

I also machine polished it a couple of weeks ago getting it ready for a few shows its in.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img713/7804/img5599sk.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img827/7057/img5678n.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img405/3156/img5489m.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img842/6587/img5681vt.jpg)

And alongside a former project car we are on going with

(http://imageshack.us/a/img855/463/img5484a.jpg)
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 07 June 2013, 12:13
Spotless as ever...

Is that the wagon you did at the bottom?
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 June 2013, 13:45
Yea that's the wagon we did mate
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Post by: Lewy on 07 June 2013, 20:11
Looks sh1t....  :wink:
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Post by: Screech16v on 07 June 2013, 20:56
Yeah bit rough that is  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2013, 22:32
 :grin: :grin: :grin:  Thanks 

 :cool:

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Post by: F17BAD on 21 July 2013, 12:41
Now have the keys to a Unit in Morley, Leeds

BGK Tuning is here 

First car in is a MK2 GTI 16 thats having a 20VT engine swap


(http://imageshack.us/a/img46/6763/znz5.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img543/9483/j9e7.jpg)
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Post by: barrym381 on 21 July 2013, 12:44
good luck mate with the new conversion shop  :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 21 July 2013, 12:55
Thanks mate

did you get sorted BTW ? 
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Post by: barrym381 on 21 July 2013, 13:05
Thanks mate

did you get sorted BTW ?
yes mate just had to bite the bullet buy a new turbo an manni then the fuel pump needed done too  :laugh:
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Post by: F17BAD on 21 July 2013, 13:11
ahh cool glad u all good :smiley:

Sold that K04 locally, managed to get £300!  so all good, i sold the turbo bare tho so still got all the other bits

I just found put last week my mate in leeds with the turbo company does fully rebuilt K04's with no cracks for £295!!  lol 
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Post by: barrym381 on 21 July 2013, 13:18
ahh cool glad u all good :smiley:

Sold that K04 locally, managed to get £300!  so all good, i sold the turbo bare tho so still got all the other bits

I just found put last week my mate in leeds with the turbo company does fully rebuilt K04's with no cracks for £295!!  lol
:cry: ah well its done now might see if my old 1 can be salvaged when i get the car back
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Post by: Screech16v on 21 July 2013, 13:26
Nice one brad,good luck man!
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Post by: F17BAD on 21 July 2013, 13:32
cheers mate
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Post by: Junior74 on 21 July 2013, 13:46
Good luck with the business mate...plenty of happy customers will be strolling out of there me thinks!!!
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 21 July 2013, 14:04
Wicked,  look forward to seeing the upcoming automotive creations.
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Post by: VW BUSH on 21 July 2013, 18:21
Is that a beam gantry? pit, 3 phase, come on man specs :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 21 July 2013, 18:57
Is that a beam gantry? pit, 3 phase, come on man specs :cool:

What di you mean by beam gantry (forgive me been out last nite )

its holds around 5 or 6 cars, old textile mill (well part of it) still has  metal clothing buttons and sh!t stuck in the floor in one of the corners from the late 1800's  (very cool  :laugh:)

Its damp free, Alarmed and in very secure location with a gated off entry to the estate also. Close to Motorways too

The entrance needs some alterations as theirs a slight lump going into the unit, noting major but struggled to get the lowered MK2 in.

metal beams in the roof, no pitt or anything. Hope to one day get a 4 poster ramp etc.. but right now its take it as it comes and try build up on it

We have full electric all in with the rent. no gas, but have a cool old burner in the corner with a Exhaust venting to atmosphere

I will get some more pictures tomo as im taking the GF up to have a look, theirs still some of the owners bits inside that he needs to remove

this picture is taken looking down the Entrance tunnel

(http://imageshack.us/a/img844/2142/fwwj.jpg)
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Post by: boneybradley on 21 July 2013, 19:53
I might have to come down and check your place out....

I'm looking at going to college just off dewsbury road, so I guess this wont be too far away?
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Post by: F17BAD on 21 July 2013, 20:03
not far at all mate, come over be good to see you again
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Post by: Ginge 35Edition on 21 July 2013, 20:36
Good luck with the new premises mate. Looks like it could be a show n shine venue or club meet?
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Post by: VW BUSH on 21 July 2013, 20:50
From the first pic it looks like you have a Steel RSJ in the roof, ideal for an electric chain hoist.
Good stuff, wish I had my own yard  :drool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 21 July 2013, 21:00
it does have the Steel RSJs  in the roof for hoists ETC :cool: :cool:

would and do hope to hold club meets etc at somepoint, Im a DJ too so was thinking DJs, BBQ's etc..


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Post by: DanChave on 23 July 2013, 08:14
New place looks good man, hope it all works out for you bud :)
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 July 2013, 09:57
Cheers bruv
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Post by: dubsport on 30 July 2013, 20:58
Havent been on the forum for a while, good to see you still have the mk3 mate! Such a clean sleeper! Unit looks good too :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 October 2013, 22:31
Cheers dude :wink:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img199/1042/sbx0.JPG)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img89/5573/shc2.jpg)
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Post by: Bellend on 14 October 2013, 22:34
Looking awesome.

Is there any advantage with starting with a BAM over say an AUM?

Thinking bout an Ibiza and buying a second engine to uprate.
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 October 2013, 22:37
Just get the cheapest if your gonna change stuff out for loads of uprated parts, my advice is find a good healthy lump, non abused - loads of 20vts out their bit loads are in a sh!t state

K04 set up would work on any and is good in a mk2 / mk3

Bam / AMK  etc are my personal faves but are ££££££   for a genuine good example

Aum is fine, can always do the K04 upgrade easily

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Post by: F17BAD on 07 July 2014, 21:47
A lil update

almost finished a full Audi S3 OCD dash swap

full Audi looms, Heater box, Crash bar, Keys, working clocks, working Climate control, everything just as it is in the Audi

I know their is not another MK3 in the UK that has a dash swap so precise

Door cards are half way built and are heavily modified using parts of the S3 door cards as the doors won't shut using normal Mk3 door cards ,

Lots of rework and welding has been done to the tunnel to get the dash to sit how i want.

Lots more still to do



anyhow (http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m1/Brad_Kells/F17S3DASHPROGRESS_zps12dcd20b.jpg) (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/Brad_Kells/media/F17S3DASHPROGRESS_zps12dcd20b.jpg.html)
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Post by: barrym381 on 07 July 2014, 22:09
bet that took a good few hours  :wink: looks good in there though
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 July 2014, 22:14
yes mate a lot of hours gone into it

car goes for its final restoration after this show season for the underside OCD build, more engine tweaks, stroked etc and some New hand made in the UK  wheels 

Then this car just sit at the shows, promote our business and be enjoyed in the summer months, its no longer driven daily i now use a Caddy Mk2 van for my engine conversion stuff. currently building a fully forged big turbo S3 engine for this too   :-)
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Post by: VR6_Wherry on 08 July 2014, 08:51
I'm starting to think you should have just bought an S3! :grin:

Good work as always though Kells :cool:
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Post by: BISSONE on 08 July 2014, 23:03
I'm starting to think you should have just bought an S3! :grin:

Good work as always though Kells :cool:

Lol i thought the same thing, hows ur company doing you busy? Fair play
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 09 July 2014, 00:26
I'm starting to think you should have just bought an S3! :grin:

Good work as always though Kells :cool:


 :whistle:

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Post by: F17BAD on 09 July 2014, 11:03
Haha

We did buy a S3....

And ripped it to bits

S3 too heavy for me ( the seats alone weight more than my full golf  :grin:)

And I love this golf plus this is a driving advert for what we do and OHHH does it work  :evil:

So yea it's quite important this car to us.


Business is very very good, built a fair few other cars now recently another S3 engined Mk3 that came up from London which was a good one