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Title: 140 gt tdi to 230bhp??
Post by: sean_1991 on 10 April 2016, 22:10: Hi, I'm soon to be getting a gt tdi 140 mk5 and I'm wanting 230 bhp, Ive been told that the following will work: s3 intercooler, 170 bhp gt turbo converted to hybrid turbo to 265 bhp by aet, 2 2.5" exhaust system, remap on rolling road, induction kit, hard piping to and from intercooler, I hope I e been to,d correct if not please tell me what I'm missing and where to get :smiley: thanks 👍
Title: Re: 140 gt tdi to 230bhp??
Post by: lemski on 11 April 2016, 08:33: Im sure the injectors will need to be swapped out as theyll be past there flow limits (thing thats the right terminology)
Title: Re: 140 gt tdi to 230bhp??
Post by: Organisys on 11 April 2016, 13:27: Quote from: sean_1991 on 10 April 2016, 22:10
Hi, I'm soon to be getting a gt tdi 140 mk5 and I'm wanting 230 bhp, Ive been told that the following will work: s3 intercooler, 170 bhp gt turbo converted to hybrid turbo to 265 bhp by aet, 2 2.5" exhaust system, remap on rolling road, induction kit, hard piping to and from intercooler, I hope I e been to,d correct if not please tell me what I'm missing and where to get :smiley: thanks 👍

Learn to read a torque graph and get over the bhp obsession.

For parts and advice try Darkside Developments.
Title: Re: 140 gt tdi to 230bhp??
Post by: sean_1991 on 11 April 2016, 15:16: 140 injectors limit at 235bhp, I'm guessing that bhp is top end and torque is pulling power?
Title: Re: 140 gt tdi to 230bhp??
Post by: sean_1991 on 12 April 2016, 13:10: Just been in touch with darkside developments, they gave me a list of everything which comes to 2600 ish, he said NEVER buy a hybrid turbo as there crap and loads of lag and just dont drive well, he also said to save 2000 pounds just get a gt tdi 170 and a custom map a few little bits and I will see 210bhp with aload of torque, that's if I can service loosing 10bhp 😂.

We have the following option available,

Engine
Budget Turbo Kit (220bhp) - £1850 - http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/darkside-1-9-2-0-tdi-hybrid-killer-turbo-kit-inc-fitting-and-mapping.html

Darkside EGR Delete Race Pipe - £75 - http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/darkside-1-9-8v-pd105-2-0-16v-tdi-pd-ppd-and-cr-egr-delete-race-pipe.html

EGR Cooler Delete - £8.50 - http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/egr-cooler-delete-pipe-for-1-9-8v-pd105-2-0-16v-tdi-pd140-pd170.html

4 BAR MAP Sensor - INCLUDED IN BUDGET KIT - http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/vw-4-bar-map-manifold-pressure-sensor-03k-906-051.html

Fitting - £60 (Turbo Kit fitting included in Budget Kit)
Custom Remap - INCLUDED IN BUDGET KIT

(Optional but Advised)
S3 Intercooler - £300 - http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/darkside-audi-s3-intercooler-with-alloy-end-tanks.html

Hard Pipe Kit - £240 - http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/hard-pipework-kit-for-2-0-16v-tdi-pd140-bkd-bkp-engine.html

Exhaust System - Depends on the options - http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/darkside-developments-custom-exhaust-systems.html

Fitting - £140

Gearbox,

If your standard clutch is in good condition it should hold the power however if not you will need the following,

Darkside SMF and Organic Disc - £750 - http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/darkside-single-mass-flywheel-smf-clutch-kit-for-vw-02q-6-speed.html
Clutch Fitting - £200

Thanks Rob.
Title: Re: 140 gt tdi to 230bhp??
Post by: Rhyso on 12 April 2016, 13:44: Now add the VAT to those prices :lipsrsealed: :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: 140 gt tdi to 230bhp??
Post by: sean_1991 on 12 April 2016, 15:00: I was rather hoping that was with vat added ... If not .... 😱😭😭😭
Title: Re: 140 gt tdi to 230bhp??
Post by: sean_1991 on 12 April 2016, 15:06: I've been on to aet turbos and they've told me that they've done loads of vags and no problems as well they'll take my turbo in p/x for 495, they also said 230 is easily do able it'll cost 1200 at the very most so happy days 👍👌👏🏻
Title: Re: 140 gt tdi to 230bhp??
Post by: Rhyso on 12 April 2016, 16:03: Quote from: sean_1991 on 12 April 2016, 15:00
I was rather hoping that was with vat added ... If not .... 😱😭😭😭

Its not. Look at the small print....... :whistle:

230bhp is at the top end of what your injectors can do and pushing them that hard will leave you with a fair bit of smoke

It's not all about BHP remember :wink:
Title: Re: 140 gt tdi to 230bhp??
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 April 2016, 06:37: Why not buy a car that's nearer what you want and save the cash. Makes more financial sense in my book.
Title: Re: 140 gt tdi to 230bhp??
Post by: Tardis79 on 13 April 2016, 20:11: And although complex there are some exceptionally good hybrid turbo manufacturers around. You just have to look hard. AET supply badger5 with there hybrids and badger (Bill) speak for themselves around reliability and safe realistic powerful results
Title: Re: 140 gt tdi to 230bhp??
Post by: sean_1991 on 17 April 2016, 18:50: ive just relooked and only just noticed that :whistle: , im begging to understand about the bhp thing, ive been in touch with a live mapper who says that tdi's want torque not so much bhp its the bottom end grunt you want, AET turbo quoted me 495 for a hybrid turbo in p/x for my turbo which bolts straight on, ive also been told to get an s3 intercooler, hard piping egr delete, decat exhaust, better filter and remap and i should see some low down torque. a mate of mine whos got gt tdi put the idea in my had about a one thats already been done but cant find a single one but if anyone knows one please let me know as ive got cash waiting needs to be 5 door though, if you could give me a few links to some hybrid sites you know of ive be grateful :smiley: