remap / chip

[Wayne]

You can get 7-10bhp out of a 1.2 Corsa 

And 60bhp out of a C63 AMG 

Respect that but most remaps I have seen on standard n/a car have only seen a maximum of around 7bhp, 2.0 Golf has to be one of VW's worst engines in the mk4 so whilst it will make it a smoother etc I still doubt it is going to add 13bhp.

[Rhyso]

You can get 7-10bhp out of a 1.2 Corsa 

And 60bhp out of a C63 AMG 

Respect that but most remaps I have seen on standard n/a car have only seen a maximum of around 7bhp, 2.0 Golf has to be one of VW's worst engines in the mk4 so whilst it will make it a smoother etc I still doubt it is going to add 13bhp.

I didnt say it would make 13bhp

And are you talking about peak power or average power gains???

[xxChrisxx]

And are you talking about peak power or average power gains???

If you can't make an xhp gain at the peak (or top end), you can't realistically make a xhp average gain.

Unless you have a very strange definition of average, or you are splitting the curve up into broad sections.
Or you mean % gain.


EDIT: I'm not saying you are wrong in principle. I actually agree with you that it's the curve that matters rather than a peak figure. But high peak figures allow for much willy waving.

You want the most power, where you use power. Which for most people is sub 3000rpm.

[Mark b]

the bloke said to me id notice the difference more in higher gears

[Rhyso]

And are you talking about peak power or average power gains???

If you can't make an xhp gain at the peak (or top end), you can't realistically make a xhp average gain.

Unless you have a very strange definition of average, or you are splitting the curve up into broad sections.
Or you mean % gain.


EDIT: I'm not saying you are wrong in principle. I actually agree with you that it's the curve that matters rather than a peak figure. But high peak figures allow for much willy waving.

You want the most power, where you use power. Which for most people is sub 3000rpm.

Thats the way I think and its how I market my remaps 

Do you want good, usable power across the rev range or a million BHP over the last 500rpm?

Peak bhp doesnt necessarily make for the quicker car 

That Corsa I did the other week, the bloke could feel the difference in the first 3 gears within just a few hundred yards

Again like a few others have said a remap done properly makes for a much nicer drive 

[damien010685]

the bloke said to me id notice the difference more in higher gears

It will be smoother but don't expect it to wow you mate in all honesty for £250 or how much it will cost I think it would be a waste of money difference on something like an r32 it's totally changes the car.
On a 2.0 it will be minimal!!

And let's be honest he's not going to tell u it's sh!t is he he will want business

[Rhyso]

the bloke said to me id notice the difference more in higher gears

That IMO defeats the object. You want the difference pulling away and getting up to speed

[Wazzzer]

Yup I love the mid range area on my graph

[Rhyso]

Yup I love the mid range area on my graph

Exactly. Especially where you live; a big top end is pointless 

[xxChrisxx]

To be fair I think most people don't consider low and midrange power until they don't have it anymore.

My main driver is now a 325i. N/A 6pot feels great when you are driving it properly, but the lack of low down grunt can be a massive pain in the arse at times.