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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: hutch6447 on 08 May 2009, 20:32

Title: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: hutch6447 on 08 May 2009, 20:32: Is changing the rear bushes a decent job to do, if so has anyone get the step by step guide to completing job thanks ?
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: Ridg on 08 May 2009, 21:38: here's one i bookmarked earlier

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1980960

I paid a local garage to do mine as they have special tools to pop the bushes in and out, eg not a hammer and g clamp like in the guide.

if you're replacing them, the Leon Cupra R bushes are the ones to go for.
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: Steve_PD on 08 May 2009, 22:31: Or the Fabia VRS for a quarter of the price :wink:
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: Ridg on 09 May 2009, 00:07: Quote from: Steve_PD on 08 May 2009, 22:31
Or the Fabia VRS for a quarter of the price :wink:

hadn't heard of the vRS bushes being used in the MK4, so just checked ETKA and a quick read through http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/254751.aspx

and as I suspected different part numbers, but from the looks of it a very similar part, probably a slightly firmer rubber in the LCR given that the LCR is heavier than the vRS

standard MK4 bush;
1J0 501 541 C

vRS bush part number;
6Q0 501 541 E

LCR bush;
1ML 501 541
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: jonnyturbo on 09 May 2009, 20:25: NortheastGTI is your man to ask about rear beam bushes lol
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 09 May 2009, 23:28: Quote from: jonnyturbo on 09 May 2009, 20:25
NortheastGTI is your man to ask about rear beam bushes lol
mmmmmmmmm :rolleyes: :huh: yep i took mine into a local garage supplied the oem ones and got them fitted for £40 :afro:
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: johnson6672 on 10 May 2009, 11:48: I got Vrs on mine, jobs not too bad too do just make sure you clamp your brake hoses!!!
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: sidney69 on 14 September 2009, 14:36: Chaps... I need to replace my rear axle bushes and have been told that the vRS will fit my vehicle on a number of forums. However, when I contacted AVS - vwspares, they stated that on my particular model, the rear axle bushes are 69mm ones and not the vRS type which are 72mm ones. Can anyone confirm whether the vRS ones will definitely fit or not... thanks
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 14 September 2009, 14:42: vRS bushes will fit :wink:
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: Wazzzer on 14 September 2009, 17:11: what year is your car mate?
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: old_n07 on 14 September 2009, 17:50: Sidney69 - Isn't your car an ASZ? if so it is 04/2001 onwards and the only bush listed is the 1J0 501 541 C in ETKA which is this one (http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=186) on VWSPARES (http://www.vwspares.co.uk/g4suspension_rear.php) which is 72mm so the Fabia one will fit :afro:

Neil
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: G60GTI16V on 14 September 2009, 18:19: part number for mine? i got a 5 door agu 2000 w going to change mine on the weekend are jom suspension kits ok? anything else around there price range worth considering, im not going coilovers now i think..? also whats part number for front top mount and bearings as i want to change these at the same time to. thanks guys
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: old_n07 on 14 September 2009, 18:21: It looks like the same part number from what I can see in ETKA :afro:
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: Wazzzer on 14 September 2009, 18:27: My JOM suspension kit has been fine :cool:
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: nadlad on 14 September 2009, 18:51: if this sorts the banging noise when u go over bumpy surfaces as if your boot is open then i think ineed to do thsi mien is a 150 pd arl can anyone link me to the vrs bushes pls
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: old_n07 on 14 September 2009, 18:54: These (http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=1339) are the ones :afro:

Here (http://www.vwspares.co.uk/g4suspension_rear.php) is the range

Neil
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: nadlad on 14 September 2009, 19:25: Quote from: old_n07 on 14 September 2009, 18:54
These (http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=1339) are the ones :afro:

Here (http://www.vwspares.co.uk/g4suspension_rear.php) is the range

Neil

thanks mate i think ill get the ibiza cupra r ones just been chattign to ard
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: old_n07 on 14 September 2009, 19:29: lol, never a quick conversation :wink:

Neil
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: nadlad on 14 September 2009, 19:43: neil.... hows that idea of having a 'chips away' link up for battered cars and stone chips etc going???? remeber u mentioned it when u diagnosed the miss fire on cylinder 1??? few months ago
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: old_n07 on 14 September 2009, 19:46: Are you sure that was me ? :huh: but there again I may have been having a senior moment :undecided: :grin:

But a good idea, if we got a list of recomended body work repairers etc.. the only think with chips away is if you get the right man they are great but others are just cr@p and you can't always gurantee which one you get

Neil
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: nadlad on 14 September 2009, 20:06: Quote from: old_n07 on 14 September 2009, 19:46
Are you sure that was me ? :huh: but there again I may have been having a senior moment :undecided: :grin:

But a good idea, if we got a list of recomended body work repairers etc.. the only think with chips away is if you get the right man they are great but others are just cr@p and you can't always gurantee which one you get

Neil

u not from bradford?
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: old_n07 on 14 September 2009, 20:23: lol me nooo, I'm from Stafford-ish. Bradfod could have been Gareth(Bugolugs)
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: nadlad on 14 September 2009, 20:26: thats him :undecided:
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: Wurzel on 14 September 2009, 20:35: Can I ask about the TT wishbone bushes here? My garage says they wont fit my car as the early mk4s had different angles in the suspension but it seems a bit weird to me.
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: Wazzzer on 14 September 2009, 20:48: told you before, crap :wink:

All mk4 wishbones are the same, TT bushes will fit as I had my mate at work press them in and I fitted the wishbones myself
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: old_n07 on 14 September 2009, 20:52: Quote from: Wazzzer on 14 September 2009, 20:48
told you before, crap :wink:

All mk4 wishbones are the same, TT bushes will fit as I had my mate at work press them in and I fitted the wishbones myself

Totally agree with Wazzer, he should know with the age of his car too :afro:
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: snap-on on 14 September 2009, 22:11: Can you not just replace the rear bushes with better powerflex ones rather then originals agian ???
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: nadlad on 14 September 2009, 22:58: ibiza cupra r are better i think
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: bobreece on 14 September 2009, 23:13: so in everyones opinoins whats the best bushes to fit? is the fabia the same as the cupra r or is one better or worse?
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: nadlad on 14 September 2009, 23:28: Quote from: bobreece on 14 September 2009, 23:13
so in everyones opinoins whats the best bushes to fit? is the fabia the same as the cupra r or is one better or worse?

IMO ibiza cupra r are the best and half the price of leon cupra r
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: Mr Blue on 17 September 2009, 12:18: Ive read that Seat bushes give a much firm ride so I changed mine for standard VW ones @ £18 each

You will need to take off the rear axel if you dont have a ramp.

Its better to take the axel off anyway...paint it and stick it back on. I cant see how someone can get the bushes back in with the axel in place. They dont go in THAT easy :rolleyes: (without a ramp)

Clamp the brake lines before you undo the pipes! (i used small G clamps)
If you get air in the ABS pump you will need VAG.com to sort it (so ive read)

You will need to burn/heat the old bushes and tap them out with a hammer.

Rear bushes... probably the easiest thing ive changed on a mk4 golf. You dont need a press. You just need some sort of 'wind in' tool (made my own)

Total cost just under £200. That was with new vag shocks too so check those while your at it!

Hope that helps
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: Wazzzer on 17 September 2009, 20:07: did all mine in situ, took 6 hours mind :grin:
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: Mr Blue on 17 September 2009, 23:18: yeh you could do it in situ but for the sake of a few hours. sod that :laugh:

And burning the old bushes out wouldnt be a good idea next to the fuel tank :grin:
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: G60GTI16V on 17 September 2009, 23:54: i ordered my vrs ones today, i was reading somewhere and it said that they have to be positioned correctly when installed is this true if so anyone know how and where/what to line it up with
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: Mr Blue on 18 September 2009, 12:14: yes. check out the vortex thread
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1980960

(http://images40.fotki.com/v1331/photos/2/225168/2167749/diagram-vi.jpg)

I went by the number (2) being closest to the tarmac and has been ok. One was a few mm out of line but still went back on the car ok and have had no problems with handling.
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: Steve_PD on 18 September 2009, 13:23: but the vRS ones are solid rubber and have no voids or a positioning marker
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: Wazzzer on 18 September 2009, 13:57: yes they do, bear with me and I'll find a pic for you
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: Wazzzer on 18 September 2009, 14:10: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/rearbeambush1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/rearbeambush2.jpg)

:wink:
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: G60GTI16V on 18 September 2009, 21:22: there the ones i just picked up today but do u use the green line to line it up to the mark 2 on the diagram? and im thinking this is the part of the arm thats facing the ground not the underside of the car?

(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z122/G60GTI16V/My%20Golf%20Valver/setup.jpg)
Title: Re: Changing rear axle bushes
Post by: Wazzzer on 18 September 2009, 21:26: you got it mate :wink: