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General => Detailing => Topic started by: david25 on 30 April 2017, 15:17
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Hi, can anyone tell me if this standard of water beading is about "average" ? Versus the amazing results on this thread
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=280225.50 (My detailing marquee....and a spot of spring detailing!)
It was a very simple process of:
1. Wash
2. Clay
3. Wash
4. Air dry
5. Apply Victoria Collectors Wax - as per instructions http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/wax/victoria-wax/victoria-collectors-wax-3oz/prod_309.html
Is this what I can expect unless I go for extra stages?
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KkvQvJt/0/e6eb8593/XL/i-KkvQvJt-XL.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8TfbMHc/0/16b32974/L/i-8TfbMHc-L.jpg)
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Hi, can anyone tell me if this standard of water beading is about "average" ? Versus the amazing results on this thread
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=280225.50 (My detailing marquee....and a spot of spring detailing!)
It was a very simple process of:
1. Wash
2. Clay
3. Wash
4. Air dry
5. Apply Victoria Collectors Wax - as per instructions http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/wax/victoria-wax/victoria-collectors-wax-3oz/prod_309.html
Is this what I can expect unless I go for extra stages?
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KkvQvJt/0/e6eb8593/XL/i-KkvQvJt-XL.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8TfbMHc/0/16b32974/L/i-8TfbMHc-L.jpg)
Being honest, it's not great beading, I would put it slightly below average for a waxed car. Could be the wax, or the application. Was it a single coat of wax? Are you sure it was buffed off properly as hard to see on a white car. You could try applying another coat to see if it gives improved result, or strip back to bare paint and add a base sealant such as Poorboys Ex-P (wax needs to go on top) which will give additional protection, shine and most likely improved beading. Alternatively you could add a Quick Detailer spray wax/sealant on top which will give temporary improvement, choose one compatible with a wax as some nano or polymer sealants won't bond well to wax and lifespan will be shortlived . Or once this wax has diminished, try an alternative wax or sealant.
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Hi, can anyone tell me if this standard of water beading is about "average" ? Versus the amazing results on this thread
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=280225.50 (My detailing marquee....and a spot of spring detailing!)
It was a very simple process of:
1. Wash
2. Clay
3. Wash
4. Air dry
5. Apply Victoria Collectors Wax - as per instructions http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/wax/victoria-wax/victoria-collectors-wax-3oz/prod_309.html
Is this what I can expect unless I go for extra stages?
Being honest, it's not great beading, I would put it slightly below average for a waxed car. Could be the wax, or the application. Was it a single coat of wax? Are you sure it was buffed off properly as hard to see on a white car. You could try applying another coat to see if it gives improved result, or strip back to bare paint and add a base sealant such as Poorboys Ex-P (wax needs to go on top) which will give additional protection, shine and most likely improved beading. Alternatively you could add a Quick Detailer spray wax/sealant on top which will give temporary improvement, choose one compatible with a wax as some nano or polymer sealants won't bond well to wax and lifespan will be shortlived . Or once this wax has diminished, try an alternative wax or sealant.
Yes, the roof was a single coat, the bonnet (not shown) was twice, but similar results.
I think it was buffed properly, certainly feeling very smooth and glassy by hand afterwards. I don't think I will try and quick fixes and go for another wax, but now I have a big tin of Victoria's....
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Hi, can anyone tell me if this standard of water beading is about "average" ? Versus the amazing results on this thread
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=280225.50 (My detailing marquee....and a spot of spring detailing!)
It was a very simple process of:
1. Wash
2. Clay
3. Wash
4. Air dry
5. Apply Victoria Collectors Wax - as per instructions http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/wax/victoria-wax/victoria-collectors-wax-3oz/prod_309.html
Is this what I can expect unless I go for extra stages?
Being honest, it's not great beading, I would put it slightly below average for a waxed car. Could be the wax, or the application. Was it a single coat of wax? Are you sure it was buffed off properly as hard to see on a white car. You could try applying another coat to see if it gives improved result, or strip back to bare paint and add a base sealant such as Poorboys Ex-P (wax needs to go on top) which will give additional protection, shine and most likely improved beading. Alternatively you could add a Quick Detailer spray wax/sealant on top which will give temporary improvement, choose one compatible with a wax as some nano or polymer sealants won't bond well to wax and lifespan will be shortlived . Or once this wax has diminished, try an alternative wax or sealant.
Yes, the roof was a single coat, the bonnet (not shown) was twice, but similar results.
I think it was buffed properly, certainly feeling very smooth and glassy by hand afterwards. I don't think I will try and quick fixes and go for another wax, but now I have a big tin of Victoria's....
That's where sample or panel pots come in, usually about 30ml, sometimes 50ml, enough to do a car around 3 times, without having to commit to a big pot if you don't like it. I can highly recommend DoDo Juice waxes, their Supernatural Hybid Paste would be a great choice for a white car, or something like Diamond White or Light Fantastic. I used Supernatural Hybrid used on my black gti, and it's a fantastic wax, but I found it a little too glassy and crisp for black, lacking in depth, but the very qualities you want in a wax for a white or silver car. I've used DJ Blue Velvet Pro and Purple Haze Pro too and all DJ waxes I've used gave great beading.
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/wax/dodo-juice/cat_59.html
Supernatural sample pot. http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/wax/dodo-juice/dodo-juice-supernatural-30ml-panel-pot/prod_442.html
Also excellent are Collinte waxes.
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Thanks, ordered sample pots of Diamond White (hard) and Bilt Hamber Finis Wax to carry out a comparison.
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Thanks, ordered sample pots of Diamond White (hard) and Bilt Hamber Finis Wax to carry out a comparison.
You won't be disappointed with Finis :smiley:, or either of them to be honest.
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Thanks, ordered sample pots of Diamond White (hard) and Bilt Hamber Finis Wax to carry out a comparison.
I've always preferred DJ hard Wax to the soft and think it has the edge beading wise. Let us know how you get on, be great to hear about the comparison. Are you going to half roof in one and half in other? Best to strip the Victoria wax off first (IPA/panel wipe) before applying the new stuff, or just wait until it's disminished.
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Thanks, ordered sample pots of Diamond White (hard) and Bilt Hamber Finis Wax to carry out a comparison.
I've always preferred DJ hard Wax to the soft and think it has the edge beading wise. Let us know how you get on, be great to hear about the comparison. Are you going to half roof in one and half in other? Best to strip the Victoria wax off first (IPA/panel wipe) before applying the new stuff, or just wait until it's disminished.
I will use the bonnet for an easier application and I will find IPA panel wipes.
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Hi, can anyone tell me if this standard of water beading is about "average" ? Versus the amazing results on this thread
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=280225.50 (My detailing marquee....and a spot of spring detailing!)
It was a very simple process of:
1. Wash
2. Clay
3. Wash
4. Air dry
5. Apply Victoria Collectors Wax - as per instructions http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/wax/victoria-wax/victoria-collectors-wax-3oz/prod_309.html
Is this what I can expect unless I go for extra stages?
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KkvQvJt/0/e6eb8593/XL/i-KkvQvJt-XL.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8TfbMHc/0/16b32974/L/i-8TfbMHc-L.jpg)
Being honest, it's not great beading, I would put it slightly below average for a waxed car. Could be the wax, or the application. Was it a single coat of wax? Are you sure it was buffed off properly as hard to see on a white car. You could try applying another coat to see if it gives improved result, or strip back to bare paint and add a base sealant such as Poorboys Ex-P (wax needs to go on top) which will give additional protection, shine and most likely improved beading. Alternatively you could add a Quick Detailer spray wax/sealant on top which will give temporary improvement, choose one compatible with a wax as some nano or polymer sealants won't bond well to wax and lifespan will be shortlived . Or once this wax has diminished, try an alternative wax or sealant.
i must be drunk that aint a white car :grin: :laugh: looks blue :sick:
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^^
It's Reflex Silver. Although I did mistakenly call it white in one of my posts....oops. But what's good for white is good for silver and vice versa. :laugh:
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After a very long delay, here is the Bilt Hamber Finis Wax result, beading is a bit smaller and consistent
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-J8L8JFt/0/328724e4/XL/i-J8L8JFt-XL.jpg)
The large pools are from overnight rain and the picture being taken in the morning.
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I have used Finis in the past and the water beads have all been tight and perfect. If you had told me that was 4 month old Finis then I would have believed you, I’m not sure why they aren’t all like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/UegpuSt.jpg)
That is Fusso Soft 99 but I have achieved the same results using Finis.
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I have used Finis in the past and the water beads have all been tight and perfect. If you had told me that was 4 month old Finis then I would have believed you, I’m not sure why they aren’t all like this:
That is Fusso Soft 99 but I have achieved the same results using Finis.
I’ve used Fusso Coat Dark 12 Months Wax (name is misleading as its actually a sealant :smiley:). IMO it’s very good value and is the most hydrophobic product I’ve used on my car. The beading is very impressive and the water beads are very tight and consistently sized. I found it gives good protection for around 6 months without any topping up, although I’d question whether 12 months protection is a realistic claim.
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/sealants/fusso-coat-dark-200g/prod_1730.html
There’s also a ‘Light’ version for light coloured cars.
I also rate Collinite 845 Insulator Wax; very keenly priced and no frills packaging and as it’s a liquid, application is very easy on, easy off. Gives a good 3-4 months protection and good tight beading. It’s not the nicest smelling wax, and the packaging is very plain, but I’m more interested in good performance than a fancy perfumed scent or fancy packaging.
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/wax/collinite-no-845-insulator-wax/prod_208.html
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I've tried many many waxes/sealants inc DW favourites like Colly 476s and FK1000p and I have settled on Fusso Coat Light as my ultimate wax for durability, ease of use and price. If they go out of business I will have to buy a whole case of tubs :grin:
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I have used Finis in the past and the water beads have all been tight and perfect. If you had told me that was 4 month old Finis then I would have believed you, I’m not sure why they aren’t all like this:
That is Fusso Soft 99 but I have achieved the same results using Finis.
Hi, thanks for the comparison, it might be because the rain water was about 10 hours old when I took the picture and had formed bigger blobs by then.