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Title: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 16 September 2018, 21:02

Long time GTI fan I’m looking to order a Golf TCR are there any dealers on here with information when the orders open ?

I’ve got an April 18 GTI pp that I planned on keeping for awhile as I’m not a fan of new polo and thought the nk8 golf was going to go the same way.

Then they sprung the TCR on us.

Any information would be greatful.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: evo1986 on 16 September 2018, 21:36
As soon as something official is announced I will post it on here guys don’t you worry.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 16 September 2018, 21:48
Cheers. The wife’s going to kill me as I’ve already owned a Clubsport S a 7.5 R and 7.5 GTI this year.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: MEZZA on 16 September 2018, 22:37
Can evo1986 answer the question on another thread, namely,are dealers taking orders for the GTI Performance at present ?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: hobbes22 on 17 September 2018, 06:38
Can evo1986 answer the question on another thread, namely,are dealers taking orders for the GTI Performance at present ?

Hi Mezza, I placed an order for a GTI PP last week with my local dealer. Cited a build date of week 42. Just waiting confirmation.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kane1210 on 28 November 2018, 07:13
Following....😎
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 28 November 2018, 19:19
Anyone else starting to think that the tcr won’t materialise?
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Post by: wantmygti on 28 November 2018, 20:41
Anyone else starting to think that the tcr won’t materialise?

I thought the latest word was it wasn’t due to come the U.K. anyway.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 28 November 2018, 20:44
All the motoring magazines have said it will. Think there were a few posts on here but that came after members spoke with Vw customer services. As we know, they aren’t the most accurate...
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: wantmygti on 28 November 2018, 21:07
If it does come, it’ll surely be massively delayed until the factory is back to normal backlogs.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 28 November 2018, 21:22
You are probably spot on there. It’s a shame as if it comes too late in the Mk7 lifecycle it’ll probably be largely ignored.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: neepy7.5 on 29 November 2018, 08:41
With order books for the R not opening back up until January and the back log of orders to get through the factory, I think its more likely the non-performance variants of the MK8 will be hitting our roads before a TCR
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 14 December 2018, 10:15
Some nice pics and videos of the TCR here.

https://instagram.com/gti_tcr?utm_source=ig_profile_share&igshid=1qhhkwb0ocbfg

Reckon you could easily make your own TCR without the daft graphics.

Get a GTI Performance add a nice Exhaust, map, New wheells and sticky tyres, suede wheel,

Probably for less than a TCR will be.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 14 December 2018, 18:37
Good collection of pictures there! A few that I’ve seen before and some I haven’t. There’s a red tcr in some images which looks a bit suspicious. It’s on proper plates, no black roof and 5 dr. Wonder if someone’s produced a replica?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 24 December 2018, 08:25
Now I know that Vw customer services aren’t to be trusted but they’ve just told me that they will hopefully have news in the new year about the TCR and put me on a ‘waiting list’. It’s a different response to the one I’ve had previously. Maybe it will see the light on day but won’t get my hopes up.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 28 December 2018, 18:07
I called into Blackpool VW to ask about a used clubsport S and also asked about the TCR they took my details to contact me if and when a TCR is released
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 28 December 2018, 18:54
I take it you didn’t go for the CSS? I have a CS on the radar which has under 500 miles on the clock.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 28 December 2018, 19:52
I take it you didn’t go for the CSS? I have a CS on the radar which has under 500 miles on the clock.

They didn’t have any CSS on the system so I asked to let me know if they get one in

Is it a red one on your radar ?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 28 December 2018, 20:06
Silver. Apparently it’s been sat in a collectors garage to nearly two years. Worries me a bit.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 28 December 2018, 20:35
Yeah not right that sat for two years needs to be driven

Silver would be my choice not a fan of red or black
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 29 December 2018, 08:58
I asked my dealer about the TCR when confirming my car last week, he said to me that normally they hear stuff from VW which they are told to keep quiet on, but right now they have heard nothing about any forthcoming products. I have no reason to disbelieve him.

He thinks (his own personal opinion) that a Tiguan R and a Arteon R are likely to be announced soon before any Golf announcements due to where we are in the lifecycles. But again, they have been given no info from VW regarding anything.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 29 December 2018, 09:06
Frustrating is the word I’d use. I wouldn’t mind if they’d just come out and say it isn’t coming to the UK. Australia and other countries have confirmed it but nothing over here. At least if they did say it wasn’t coming I would be able to move on the gti pp deal I’ve got waiting.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 29 December 2018, 16:09
Just heard back from the dealers with a CS. No discount at all and a really poor part ex offered. Also wouldn’t transport the car as it’s a long way from me. Suppose dealers hold the power with a CS as it’s high demand but low supply. Oh well.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 29 December 2018, 21:47
Just heard back from the dealers with a CS. No discount at all and a really poor part ex offered. Also wouldn’t transport the car as it’s a long way from me. Suppose dealers hold the power with a CS as it’s high demand but low supply. Oh well.

Where was it ?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kane1210 on 29 December 2018, 22:20
TCR LIVE ON BELGIUM VW

https://www.volkswagen.be/app/configurateur/vw-be/fr/golf/30315/35410/gti-tcr?page=engine
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 29 December 2018, 22:56
Only appears to be 3 dr.  :cry:

Offered with prets though in Belgium I see.

The CS is at Vw Horsham.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Ian_C on 29 December 2018, 23:05
This week’s Autocar has the TCR being available in August 2019.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 29 December 2018, 23:08
Just found the 5 dr option!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 30 December 2018, 02:37
This week’s Autocar has the TCR being available in August 2019.

That’s interesting. The motoring press have been reporting that mk8 Golf production starts in June 2019, so mk7.5 production will have stopped in advance of that date to enable the Wolfsburg plant to tool up for the start of mk8 production.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 30 December 2018, 07:09
I’m not going to believe anything until the car is on Vw UK’s website. Even then Vw customer services will probably still say it’s not coming!

August would be a very strange time as SRGTD has said. Mk8 and TCR production at the same time would make no sense but what do I know? I thought Vw had even confirmed production begins in summer so that’s not even rumour like the TCR.

Surprised that the car is on Vw Belgium’s website first. I’d been keeping an eye on the German one. Great find kane1210.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 30 December 2018, 08:38
TCR LIVE ON BELGIUM VW

https://www.volkswagen.be/app/configurateur/vw-be/fr/golf/30315/35410/gti-tcr?page=engine
Given what I said my dealer had told me, I’ve just sent the link to him asking for an update before I sign for my car next Sunday.

On the face of it however it looks like the car is going to have a base price of circa £4k more than the base price of a PP. So on a 5dr DSG by the time DCC, wheels, paint, Dynaudio etc have been added the TCR is going to be a car well north of £40k with (I suspect) no discount available. So throw in the discounts currently available on the PP (circa £5k) that’s a £8-10k difference. That’s a lot of money for what is effectively a PP with a few styling tweaks and just 40hp more?  :shocked:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 30 December 2018, 08:47
Trying not to read too much into the prices on the website. The R is also ridiculously expensive there and it seems that things that are standard here are an option there such as led lights. Also, it looks like it won’t be limited run which means discounts might well be achievable. Time will tell.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 30 December 2018, 09:00
Then again mine has just come to £44k. Wow. That can’t be right!  :laugh:

Just specced an R to the same as I would here and it was around £7k more than uk prices. Read into that what you will.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 30 December 2018, 12:49
Does the TCR come with the akrapovic exhaust standard ? I was hoping it came with bucket seat from CS as option
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 30 December 2018, 13:26
Exhaust has been mentioned as an optional extra. No mention of bucket seats in any of the previous coverage.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 30 December 2018, 16:15
Buckets are a must in a car like this surely especially when TCR stands for touring car racing
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 30 December 2018, 16:47
I try to think of the tcr as a trim level gti rather than like the CSS. I can see why some would want bucket seats but can’t imsgine how much they’d be! Think we need to wait for the uk spec as there’s options on the Belgium website which we’re never mentioned in the press.

Back to pricing, the tcr sits between the R and gti pp in Belgium so there’s a bit of hope!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 30 December 2018, 17:20
The TCR will most likely be priced similarly to a Clubsport, and those didn’t exactly fly off the shelves.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 30 December 2018, 18:07
I agree. Think that the average Joe who wants a gti will opt for the pp. Anything else is for a gti enthusiast really.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Ian_C on 30 December 2018, 20:38
This week’s Autocar has the TCR being available in August 2019.

That’s interesting. The motoring press have been reporting that mk8 Golf production starts in June 2019, so mk7.5 production will have stopped in advance of that date to enable the Wolfsburg plant to tool up for the start of mk8 production.

In the same article Autocar is stating Dec 19 for the Mk8 golf. These are the UK ‘on-sale’ dates so I assume that other quoted dates are for production only?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 31 December 2018, 09:00
This week’s Autocar has the TCR being available in August 2019.

That’s interesting. The motoring press have been reporting that mk8 Golf production starts in June 2019, so mk7.5 production will have stopped in advance of that date to enable the Wolfsburg plant to tool up for the start of mk8 production.


In the same article Autocar is stating Dec 19 for the Mk8 golf. These are the UK ‘on-sale’ dates so I assume that other quoted dates are for production only?


It’s still a really short production window. When you think about it it’s an odd decision to even conceive the TCR unless it becomes a regular gti trim level on future mks.

0-60 time is listed as 5.6 seconds  which is ok but not significantly quicker than the PP.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 31 December 2018, 09:24
Mk8's should be available in the calendar year 2020... which model of Mk8's unknown, unlikely to be them all.

The logical point of retooling and setting up the line is the MY swapover I'd have thought, so that's what - September 2019?

I still think we have a chance of a runout Mk7.5 sometime in 2019, unless the current lane assist/keyless/rear camera is the runout?

I'm still not convinced there will be a TCR model in the UK simply because TCR means nothing here.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 31 December 2018, 09:56
Do the TCR or WTCC even run a round in this country ?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 31 December 2018, 09:58
The main model year changes have historically been from week 22. There’s usually further small spec changes to some models in week 45. This year was different though - probably a result of WLTP activity; 2019 model year production started from week 31 - see post #1 in thread at the link below;

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=283401.0

So if model year changes revert back to the usual week 22 next year, retooling around that time would tie in with mk8 production commencing in June as reported by much of the motoring press, with the first mk8 deliveries likely to be mainland Europe and the UK following a few months after?

Agree with Fred, that the UK may not get the TCR.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 31 December 2018, 10:40
Some good points there. Tbh I don’t think anything about the tcr actually makes sense but I believe that the uk is the biggest market for the gti according to various magazines. Seems odd to have an ed40 CS and tcr in the same generation. But, it still wouldn’t surprise me at all if it doesn’t arrive. Of course, I know literally nothing though!

I’ll wait until the end of January and see what other information surfaces.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 31 December 2018, 11:36
Just spoke to my dealer about my car, so I took the opportunity to follow-up on the TCR question I posed, he said that there is still nothing on any internal system from VWUK, nor have they been advised anything is coming.

He said that standard practice is VWUK need to be allocated a specific number of RHD variant vehicles before they can open the books for order, so if it is coming to the UK then they may open order books at the same time it is announced, but that is very unusual. Having said that WLPT has thrown everything out of kilter so it's a possibility. So right now, he says no more info and the reason a Belgium have it up is because they will have been allocated a number of cars they can sell.
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Post by: fredgroves on 31 December 2018, 11:51
Seems odd to have an ed40 CS and tcr in the same generation.

CS was a Mk7 runout, pretty much like the other special editions were.

TCR makes sense only insofar as a Mk7.5 runout.

I still think there's a chance of a last gasp heavily option freebie'd Mk7.5 GTI - emptying those part bins/contracts to encourage purchases of Mk7.5's once the date of the arrival of the Mk8 is very clear (to prevent a sales slump - who'd want an old model when the new one is almost here?)... so perhaps April?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 31 December 2018, 11:57
Seems odd to have an ed40 CS and tcr in the same generation.

CS was a Mk7 runout, pretty much like the other special editions were.

TCR makes sense only insofar as a Mk7.5 runout.

I still think there's a chance of a last gasp heavily option freebie'd Mk7.5 GTI - emptying those part bins/contracts to encourage purchases of Mk7.5's once the date of the arrival of the Mk8 is very clear (to prevent a sales slump - who'd want an old model when the new one is almost here?)... so perhaps April?

It’s hard to know what to believe really with no solid information. I can remember a dealer telling me that when they added leather to the mk5 (I think) as standard it was to make it more premium, not because it was a run out model. How I laughed.
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Post by: Guzzle on 31 December 2018, 12:58
Seems odd to have an ed40 CS and tcr in the same generation. But, it still wouldn’t surprise me at all if it doesn’t arrive. Of course, I know literally nothing though!

Not completely unprecedented though. Mk5 had the Ed30 and then the Pirelli edition, both of which were available in the UK.

It’s hard to know what to believe really with no solid information. I can remember a dealer telling me that when they added leather to the mk5 (I think) as standard it was to make it more premium, not because it was a run out model. How I laughed.

Salespeople eh.  :rolleyes: They do talk complete and utter drivel at times.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 31 December 2018, 13:00
You have to wonder how much VWUK are holding off on the TCR until the back log (due to WLTP) has been cleared. The chances of people cancelling and/or switching to a TCR order might be quite high so VW might not be willing to take the risk.
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Post by: mcmaddy on 31 December 2018, 13:12
Seems odd to have an ed40 CS and tcr in the same generation.

CS was a Mk7 runout, pretty much like the other special editions were.

TCR makes sense only insofar as a Mk7.5 runout.

I still think there's a chance of a last gasp heavily option freebie'd Mk7.5 GTI - emptying those part bins/contracts to encourage purchases of Mk7.5's once the date of the arrival of the Mk8 is very clear (to prevent a sales slump - who'd want an old model when the new one is almost here?)... so perhaps April?
Depending on how the 8 looks and what it's got standard kit wise then a runout 7.5 might be ideal.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 31 December 2018, 13:31
Depending on how the 8 looks and what it's got standard kit wise then a runout 7.5 might be ideal.

It could be, but on the other hand buying one a couple of months before the Mk8 rolls into town will see your depreciation sky rocket.

Just depends on how you look at your cars I guess, personally I have a car for a few years and the total cost of ownership is important to me - so a massive drop off in resale value is a big thing for me. Far more than getting a few options chucked in.

Its irrelevant to me in this case though, I have my current Mk7.5 until July 2020.
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Post by: mcmaddy on 31 December 2018, 14:07
I'm in that dilemma Fred. I'm supposed to have mine for another two years which might fall in nicely with mk8 GTi or R or I could chop in early for a 7.5 GTi.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 31 December 2018, 14:11
My S3 deal ends in October 2019. Won’t be far enough down the line for a mk8 but falls right in the run out model phase so looking to change earlier. I’ll keep this one for around 5 yrs as I don’t think pcp really works anymore. Therefore the TCR would hit the spot.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 31 December 2018, 17:07
This week’s Autocar has the TCR being available in August 2019.

Just had a quick flick through Autocar but couldn’t see any TCR info. New issue?
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Post by: Clubsport S on 10 January 2019, 20:06
Now on the German configurator

https://www.volkswagen.de/app/konfigurator/vw-de/de/der-golf/30315?page=trim

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 10 January 2019, 20:32
I don’t think it’ll come to the UK. Far too quiet here about it.
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Post by: clubsport on 10 January 2019, 20:40
Encouraging to see the German spec TCR comes with the 18" Belvedere wheels as fitted to the Clubsport Ed40. Good that VW are still producing them.

If I were to modify my PP. a set of Belvedere's and a Clubsport S back box is all I would need!
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Post by: Clubsport S on 10 January 2019, 20:52
Encouraging to see the German spec TCR comes with the 18" Belvedere wheels as fitted to the Clubsport Ed40. Good that VW are still producing them.

If I were to modify my PP. a set of Belvedere's and a Clubsport S back box is all I would need!

Quite like the new Reifnitz wheel too.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: wantmygti on 11 January 2019, 08:04
Encouraging to see the German spec TCR comes with the 18" Belvedere wheels as fitted to the Clubsport Ed40. Good that VW are still producing them.

If I were to modify my PP. a set of Belvedere's and a Clubsport S back box is all I would need!

Quite like the new Reifnitz wheel too.

I recognise them but can’t place them. Have audi used them??
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 11 January 2019, 08:26
Encouraging to see the German spec TCR comes with the 18" Belvedere wheels as fitted to the Clubsport Ed40. Good that VW are still producing them.

If I were to modify my PP. a set of Belvedere's and a Clubsport S back box is all I would need!

Quite like the new Reifnitz wheel too.

I recognise them but can’t place them. Have audi used them??
Although they are quite different, it's probably safe to say they got a bit of 'inspiration' from the 20" TTRS wheels which have an angular tick at the end of each spoke.
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Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 11 January 2019, 09:08
Encouraging to see the German spec TCR comes with the 18" Belvedere wheels as fitted to the Clubsport Ed40. Good that VW are still producing them.

If I were to modify my PP. a set of Belvedere's and a Clubsport S back box is all I would need!

Quite like the new Reifnitz wheel too.

Like, maybe. But would you spec them for €2300 or whatever they are on the configurator?!!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 11 January 2019, 10:18
Encouraging to see the German spec TCR comes with the 18" Belvedere wheels as fitted to the Clubsport Ed40. Good that VW are still producing them.

If I were to modify my PP. a set of Belvedere's and a Clubsport S back box is all I would need!

Quite like the new Reifnitz wheel too.

Like, maybe. But would you spec them for €2300 or whatever they are on the configurator?!!
The option in DE and BR doesn't just give you the wheels though, it's a pack containing the 19" wheels, DCC ,and Speed Limit de-restrict.

I'm still not sure it's worth it though, i'd stick with the Belvedere's and just tick the DCC box. If the car does come to the UK, and the packs are similar, this is going to be one very expensive car!

It does make me chuckle how the Parker's in Europe are instead called "Milton Keynes".  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 11 January 2019, 10:43
It does make me chuckle how the Parker's in Europe are instead called "Milton Keynes".  :grin:

Which probably makes me hate them even more than I do already!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 11 January 2019, 11:15
Encouraging to see the German spec TCR comes with the 18" Belvedere wheels as fitted to the Clubsport Ed40. Good that VW are still producing them.

If I were to modify my PP. a set of Belvedere's and a Clubsport S back box is all I would need!

Quite like the new Reifnitz wheel too.

Like, maybe. But would you spec them for €2300 or whatever they are on the configurator?!!
The option in DE and BR doesn't just give you the wheels though, it's a pack containing the 19" wheels, DCC ,and Speed Limit de-restrict.

I'm still not sure it's worth it though, i'd stick with the Belvedere's and just tick the DCC box. If the car does come to the UK, and the packs are similar, this is going to be one very expensive car!

It does make me chuckle how the Parker's in Europe are instead called "Milton Keynes".  :grin:

Was looking on my phone - that makes more sense. I'd probably go Belvederes as well.

Milton Keynes is certainly an odd name for the Parkers in Europe!
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Post by: P6GTD on 11 January 2019, 11:38
For all those Milton Keynes/Parker haters, I see that they are a €700 upgrade option on the Belgian TCR configurator 😏
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 11 January 2019, 11:48
Even as a Parker fan, you'd imagine they would be a no-cost option or even some money back for choosing them instead of Belvederes!
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Post by: P6GTD on 11 January 2019, 13:05
Indeed, it’s strange but illustrates VW’s differing strategy for each market.
I think the UK May be the biggest GTI market, certainly in Europe (other than Germany?) and its my impression we usually get a better spec as standard than many others.
I also believe that GTIs in Belgium and Holland are v expensive.
I’m moving from a 7 to a 7.5 in March so at the moment trying to fall in love with Parkers.
I think I am starting to get there!
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Post by: P6GTD on 11 January 2019, 13:09
I have to say Jim that your signature pic of a Parker is helping me a lot!
My car will be Indium Gray but that wheel against silver is quite nice  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 11 January 2019, 13:45
I have to say Jim that your signature pic of a Parker is helping me a lot!
My car will be Indium Gray but that wheel against silver is quite nice  :smiley:

Glad it's helping! I didn't get chance to upgrade but in reality, I don't love any of the others enough to pay extra for them anyway.

My previous Mk7.5 was Indium... really liked that colour  :cool:

(https://i.postimg.cc/TYPKsywM/IMG-4175.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mh0ZzgC8)
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Post by: P6GTD on 11 January 2019, 14:13
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: 09GTI on 13 January 2019, 10:22
It’s supposed to be available to order Ireland from week 6 mid Feb , prices not out yet though
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Post by: king monkey on 13 January 2019, 10:25
Interesting. How do you know this?
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Post by: 09GTI on 13 January 2019, 17:28
Sent vw Ireland an email query on Friday and they replied confirming it but that prices had not been finalized yet
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Post by: king monkey on 13 January 2019, 17:44
Seems it coming everywhere except here. Wonder if it’s limited numbers in other countries or a production trim level?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 14 January 2019, 09:44
Can't see it wouldn't come here. One of the biggest markets for the Golf outside of Germany. That said CS40 didn't exactly fly out the showrooms here to start with...  :huh:
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Post by: mike roberts on 14 January 2019, 20:17
If they're making it in RHD for Ireland, then it's coming here. We're always last to know.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: 09GTI on 15 January 2019, 20:59
Yep I’d be very surprised if Ireland got it and the uk didn’t
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Guzzle on 16 January 2019, 20:15
Not much more in terms of solid information, but these lot seem to think we're getting it;-

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/hot-hatch/volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr-now-real
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Post by: king monkey on 16 January 2019, 20:20
Literally just read this myself. Review next week apparently.
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Post by: Guzzle on 16 January 2019, 20:25
Fingers crossed for you monkey. You've been very patient.  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Clubsport S on 16 January 2019, 20:30
Not much more in terms of solid information, but these lot seem to think we're getting it;-

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/hot-hatch/volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr-now-real

There are photos on Facebook today showing some TCR cars lined up. Appears to be at a circuit in Portugal, at an event for journalists.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 16 January 2019, 20:30
Thanks!! So has my dealer. He’s had an R and gti deal waiting for 2 months! If the tcr doesn’t come that’s where my money will go.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Panelpin on 17 January 2019, 13:24
http://www.carsuk.net/volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr-arrives-as-a-goodbye-performance-gti/
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 17 January 2019, 13:36
Quite funny all the journos suddenly picking up on Milton Keynes as an amusing name for the Parker wheels when they've always been called that outside the UK.

TCR will be great, along as you don't spec those ridiculous side spots which can only be compared to air bumps on a Citroen!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Guzzle on 17 January 2019, 18:49
Here you go monkey, I think it's pretty much definite now;-

https://www.vwpress.co.uk/en-gb/releases/3622

 :cool:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 17 January 2019, 19:18
Here you go monkey, I think it's pretty much definite now;-

https://www.vwpress.co.uk/en-gb/releases/3622

 :cool:

Well I can’t believe it! There you go. Thanks!!! Just the price now.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Clubsport S on 17 January 2019, 20:04
Here you go monkey, I think it's pretty much definite now;-

https://www.vwpress.co.uk/en-gb/releases/3622

 :cool:

Well I can’t believe it! There you go. Thanks!!! Just the price now.

This weeks edition of Autocar magazine mentions a test of it under  the "Next week" page.

Also on Pistonheads

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-germancars/golf-gti-tcr-officially-revealed/39468
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 17 January 2019, 20:08
Quite funny all the journos suddenly picking up on Milton Keynes as an amusing name for the Parker wheels when they've always been called that outside the UK.

They should rename Cadiz wheels as Grimsby or Hull in the UK.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 17 January 2019, 22:20
https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf-gti-clubsport/21213/volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr-more-details-revealed-about-mk75-golf

Yep I do still defo want one just price now
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 17 January 2019, 22:30
Quite funny all the journos suddenly picking up on Milton Keynes as an amusing name for the Parker wheels when they've always been called that outside the UK.

They should rename Cadiz wheels as Grimsby or Hull in the UK.

Yay Grimsby! I'd buy those lol
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 18 January 2019, 06:06
The ‘new’ articles that have appeared in Car, Evo, Autoexpress etc are exactly the same articles as in May. Lazy journalism.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Vortex on 18 January 2019, 09:45
The ‘new’ articles that have appeared in Car, Evo, Autoexpress etc are exactly the same articles as in May. Lazy journalism.

In my opinion someone at Volkswagen UK needs their arse kicked! How can you invite the UK car press to a launch of a new ‘model’ and not provide new and updated information, especially UK RRP and UK spec. 

Unfortunately this isn’t just a VW problem, it seems to be a problem that effects many of the UK divisions of car manufacturers, Ford UK being one!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 18 January 2019, 09:56
You have to wonder why the UK Press website is showing the German press release with German contacts. No details at all of the UK car details, specs, price, timings etc, just a copy & paste of the other European market press release. there's nothing new in the press release that we didn't already know, and as pointed out by another poster, al the news websites are just regurgitating their articles and/or copying what's in the press release.

They may be timing the UK details release in conjunction with a schedule, or perhaps somebody has messed up?!?

:undecided:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 18 January 2019, 16:15
Autocar first drive review; here   https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/first-drives/volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr-2019-review
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 18 January 2019, 17:25
Autocar first drive review; here   https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/first-drives/volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr-2019-review

Not exactly selling it to me... but on the other hand, as good as the CSS was around a German forest, I'd not buy one of those either!

About the most interesting aspect of the TCR is that its heralding the arrival of the Mk8
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 18 January 2019, 17:29
Autocar first drive review; here   https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/first-drives/volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr-2019-review

Not exactly selling it to me... but on the other hand, as good as the CSS was around a German forest, I'd not buy one of those either!

About the most interesting aspect of the TCR is that its heralding the arrival of the Mk8

Like the Clubsport and Pirelli, there’ll no doubt be lots of unsold pre-reg’d examples on dealer forecourts once the new model arrives in the showrooms.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 18 January 2019, 17:30
Autocar first drive review; here   https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/first-drives/volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr-2019-review

Not exactly selling it to me... but on the other hand, as good as the CSS was around a German forest, I'd not buy one of those either!

About the most interesting aspect of the TCR is that its heralding the arrival of the Mk8

I agree, having driven a couple of CSS now, I am impressed, but I have even more impractical cars to cover that brief even more effectively.
If I were buying a new Golf, a GTi PP to my spec would be fine, it's the silly little things like parking sensors missing on the CS ED40 and adaptive cruise on the CSS that you appreciate on a daily driver. 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 18 January 2019, 17:32
Autocar first drive review; here   https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/first-drives/volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr-2019-review

Not exactly selling it to me... but on the other hand, as good as the CSS was around a German forest, I'd not buy one of those either!

About the most interesting aspect of the TCR is that its heralding the arrival of the Mk8

Like the Clubsport and Pirelli, there’ll no doubt be lots of unsold pre-reg’d examples on dealer forecourts once the new model arrives in the showrooms.

I expect right now a canny car trader in Ireland is busy ordering MPH speedos, ready to flood the UK with surplus Irish import TCR's? :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 18 January 2019, 17:34
Like the Clubsport and Pirelli, there’ll no doubt be lots of unsold pre-reg’d examples on dealer forecourts once the new model arrives in the showrooms.

Yup its a clearing the parts bin discount promo special....

Its a shame these come so late in the lifecycle really. Offering something like this as a limited edition say with the Mk8 launch would be very exciting.... end of the Mk7... not so much. Wax lips on a donkey.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 18 January 2019, 19:33
The review in AutoExpress is more positive about the ride than Autocar.


https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/105734/new-volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr-2019-review
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 18 January 2019, 20:03
I rang Blackpool lookers today and they’ve heard nowt as usual
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 18 January 2019, 22:25
https://youtu.be/RMhJ1ZFsfp0

Nice video of a white TCR here.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 20 January 2019, 15:11
Looks good in grey

https://youtu.be/LNck_TaKqtc
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 20 January 2019, 16:04
Saw that one a few weeks ago. Looks much better in grey.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: JB GTI on 20 January 2019, 20:13
This just popped up on BookFace

https://www.facebook.com/156526041041851/posts/2478518225509276/
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 20 January 2019, 20:47
That’s a great find. Expected February according to Listers then. Just hope it’s not crazy money.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: wantmygti on 20 January 2019, 21:18
Is the honeycomb stickering to the doors optional??  :sick:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 20 January 2019, 21:21
Yep. Optional and awful.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 20 January 2019, 21:45
https://youtu.be/cTH8gm9A9xg

Akrapovic exhaust fitted ?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 20 January 2019, 21:55
Yep. You can see it compared to the standard tips.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 21 January 2019, 17:23
First post so go easy  :smiley:

I have been looking at moving from a BMW m135i to a Golf.  I was considering the R but have stumbled across the TCR.  I prefer the look over the GTI to the R to be honest but quite liked the idea of being able to get the (or even some) power down in anything other than dry conditions. 

Up until the TCR I was thinking the GTI may have been a step to far down in power (haven't driven one yet), so the TCR may tick the box on that side.

Just been reading that in NL it is being limited to 75 units and wondering if it will be limited in the same way over here...

I really like the FlashRed interior!

Just wondering how people have found the diff on the GTI PP and why they chose the PP over the R.  Am I missing anything that should change my mind - would PP owners have gone with the TCR over the R if it was around at the time (I am guessing they will be quite closely priced)?

One last question, should I expect to see a run out R model in the same thinking as the TCR?

Sorry for derailing the thread somewhat - I'm sure the post will be moved if needs be :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 21 January 2019, 17:52
I don't think VW have ever made a runout of the R series? I think you've already seen the last of the "free" options too as there won't be another MY before the Mk7 comes to an end.

The TCR will almost certainly be limited, but quite what that limit will be for the UK - maybe 500 units?

Better rubber on the GTI will make a load of difference to being able to put the power down - the OEM tyres (well UK ones anyway....) suck balls. Obviously its still a very powerful FWD car and that does limit traction at some point. I don't feel it so limiting as to make it unusable though.

The TCR will probably be £34,000 in the UK... without the £3000 extra pack (whatever its called)... and probably not much in the way of a discount knocking around. That makes it something like about £10,000 more than a GTI Performance...

You are definitely paying a premium for a "special" edition over a GTI-P or R.... other than bragging rights, I'm not sure you're getting much. 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 21 January 2019, 18:44
The problem is that nobody actually knows anything. There was an interesting twitter conversation between volkswizard and Listers. Listers think it’s 3 dr only. This has been based on the fact that they’ve not seen 5 dr photos. There are these if you look.

The main point is price. I agree with you Fred that if it’s so much more than a gti and R it makes no sense. Not for me anyway.

As for limited numbers, I’m sure that Vw said it wouldn’t be limited way back in May and at the gti coming home event.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 21 January 2019, 18:53
The problem is that nobody actually knows anything. There was an interesting twitter conversation between volkswizard and Listers. Listers think it’s 3 dr only. This has been based on the fact that they’ve not seen 5 dr photos. There are these if you look.

The main point is price. I agree with you Fred that if it’s so much more than a gti and R it makes no sense. Not for me anyway.

As for limited numbers, I’m sure that Vw said it wouldn’t be limited way back in May and at the gti coming home event.

This article in Autocar also suggests production volumes won’t be limited;
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/286bhp-volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr-now-official

The TCR that Autocar used for their recent review (18th Jan) was a five door version;
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/first-drives/volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr-2019-review
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 21 January 2019, 19:22
43 minute review here.

https://youtu.be/HgO9gTVecKw


No akropovic exhaust being offered according to the video.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 21 January 2019, 19:53
The 75 limited run is for NL and on the VW site: https://www.volkswagen.nl/nieuws/volkswagen-prijst-golf-gti-tcr/

Nothing posted for the UK yet though.

The DE site also has 3 door as standard with 5 door one of the options you can configure.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 January 2019, 21:50
43 minute review here.

https://youtu.be/HgO9gTVecKw


No akropovic exhaust being offered according to the video.

Yeah, sounds like its been dropped as it was mentioned on all the previous news articles but nowhere to be seen on the German configurator either. He seems quite clued up in the video.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 22 January 2019, 21:17
I spoke to my dealer today. I really despair. Hadn't heard about the car.

Rang VW UK and spoke to customer services in despair. Just as bad.

Expect further information in the next 1-2 months. 

Both phone calls best represented by this:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/roU1tDLWdqETe/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 22 January 2019, 21:33
I’m now sick of waiting. It’s typical Vw uk. Not a clue.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 24 January 2019, 12:09
Looks like there’s another TCR launch event happening today, Mat Watson from Carwow is there filming.

He also referred to it as a “limited edition”...  :huh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 24 January 2019, 12:41
Looks like there’s another TCR launch event happening today, Mat Watson from Carwow is there filming.

He also referred to it as a “limited edition”...  :huh:

Limited edition is a numbered, restricted production run restricted to a specific unit volume. Cars will carry a plaque or be marked to show which number they are in within the series i.e. Clubsport S.

Limited production is more accurate as it there is a finite production window which has narrowed due to the impending new model.
The TCR was due to be released in October after Worthersee but WLTP impacted it. I guess it also depends on how many MKVII body shells they have left.

It's a bit like people calling Southern Africa, 'South Africa'. South Africa is a country, Southern Africa is a sub-region which includes 5 countries. Totally different things.

I wish people paid to know these things could get this sort of thing right.

Talking of which, my dealer rang me this morning and informed me that the car was a concept and wouldn't be coming to the UK. I asked if they read the motoring press and asked why VW UK were doing a press launch for a car that wasn't being sold. I was given reassurance that it's definitely not going to be available. So we should probably just close this thread and forget about it all!  :grin: :whistle:



Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: JoeGTI on 24 January 2019, 13:06
The event is on in Portugal. There's a couple of Irish car journo's over there looking at it that I follow on Instagram/FB. It's definitely set to come to Ireland, I'd be very surprised if the UK isn't getting it too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bs_tw7PHw6N/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 24 January 2019, 19:07
The event is on in Portugal. There's a couple of Irish car journo's over there looking at it that I follow on Instagram/FB. It's definitely set to come to Ireland, I'd be very surprised if the UK isn't getting it too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bs_tw7PHw6N/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

It's coming to the UK, it's just that the local dealer hasn't been told anything by Volkswagen.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 24 January 2019, 19:10
It is odd that every country that it’s coming to or not coming to knows. We know nothing.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 24 January 2019, 19:24
It is odd that every country that it’s coming to or not coming to knows. We know nothing.
Well, the trade press clearly wouldn't publish what they have if it wasn't. It's just really odd to do press for a vehicle and not even tell the dealers that it's coming.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 24 January 2019, 19:35
It is odd that every country that it’s coming to or not coming to knows. We know nothing.
Well, the trade press clearly wouldn't publish what they have if it wasn't. It's just really odd to do press for a vehicle and not even tell the dealers that it's coming.

Every dealer you speak to says that they know in advance what’s coming so why wouldn’t they know? It’s either not coming or dreadful business communication. If it is coming I think it’s rather embarrassing for VW UK.

Sometimes, just sometimes the mags publish articles about cars that don’t come to us. I’m thinking of some of the American muscle car reviews and Chinese cars that have been reviewed but don’t get a release here. But, as I always say, what do I know?  :wink:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 24 January 2019, 20:46
Top Gear review



https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf/20-tsi-gti-tcr-3dr-dsg/first-drive

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 24 January 2019, 21:02
To illustrate the point that nobody knows anything, TG say it won’t be a limited ed.  :whistle:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mike roberts on 24 January 2019, 21:56
CSS aside, there's not been a limited run since my old 25th Anniversary GTI.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 25 January 2019, 09:52
Joe Achilles’ Instagram and instagram stories yesterday and today are taken up with TCR launch event.

In the comments he’s said that deliveries in the UK would apparently start in March. Seems a bit unlikely given the lack of news from VW UK. But who knows.

The event looks very lavish and full-on. 

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: JoeGTI on 25 January 2019, 15:16
Irish specs and prices were confirmed.

https://www.completecar.ie/car-news/article/8826/Pricing-confirmed-for-Volkswagen-Golf-GTI-TCR
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 25 January 2019, 18:00
Joe Achilles’ Instagram and instagram stories yesterday and today are taken up with TCR launch event.

In the comments he’s said that deliveries in the UK would apparently start in March. Seems a bit unlikely given the lack of news from VW UK. But who knows.

The event looks very lavish and full-on.

Late 2018, January, February, March?? 2020? Take your pick. Maybe Vw uk will do a lottery where you guess the date and the lucky winner gets a TCR.

Seriously though, and I know I’ve said it before, it’s so poor it’s unbelievable. Really hope that some concrete news comes soon for all those interested.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 25 January 2019, 19:45
Car magazine review

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/

Not limited edition. Just limited by the production time of the Mk7.5.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 25 January 2019, 20:06


Not limited edition. Just limited by the production time of the Mk7.5.

That’s how I read into the “limited” production too. Similar to the Clubsport and other limited cars (Pirelli, Ed30, Ed35). The limit being the amount of build slots available until production halts. There’s probably a soft limit depending on how many each importer decides they’re bringing in. More noticeable with RHD cars having less production flexibility unlike a LHD car which could be taken up by any number of different countries.
VW UK always seem a bit vague at best and there’s always “lost in translation” aspects to the conversion from the original VW German press releases into UK press releases. The dialogue obviously happens at senior management level between factory and VW UK and by the time it filters down to the press team and advertising execs the info is muddled until spec and numbers are locked in. Even then the dealer info and Configurator are often at odds 🙄
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 26 January 2019, 07:01
Irish Times states the they will get 20 cars. Wow.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Carbon VW on 26 January 2019, 10:28
Hello ! Ireland as stated above will get 20 cars. I have my name in the ring for one having just come off the phone from VW.Will know by the end of next week whether I am successful. I was quoted €52,000. These cars surely will go up in value but either way I will be using as daily driver and commuting 30km per year !  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 26 January 2019, 10:47
Good luck. Hope you get one.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 26 January 2019, 10:57
I can’t see them going up in value.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 26 January 2019, 11:05
No. Look at those who bought a CSS. At the end of the day it’s a mass production car.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: 2007GTI on 26 January 2019, 11:13
I agree

I can’t see them going up in value.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: JB GTI on 26 January 2019, 11:20
If I were in the market for one (I’m not !) I would wait until the hype dies down as it most certainly will and then they inevitably find there way onto the used market at a more realistic price and pick the cream of the crop from there.
Happy hunting for those that are in the market for one but don’t catch a cold  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: wantmygti on 26 January 2019, 11:42
If I were in the market for one (I’m not !) I would wait until the hype dies down as it most certainly will and then they inevitably find there way onto the used market at a more realistic price and pick the cream of the crop from there.
Happy hunting for those that are in the market for one but don’t catch a cold  :smiley:

I saved £6k on a Clubsport by hanging back and waiting for a pre registered one to come up. There were plenty to choose from, just had to wait for the right spec. In all my talks over a new one I wasn’t even offered a single pound of discount.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Booth11 on 26 January 2019, 12:17
I very much like the idea and look of the TCR.  If I didn’t have such a good car already I might be seriously tempted. If I was, it would be grey with the decals, and suffer the mild embarrassment, lol.  I think you take it for what it is and take the decals. Would you have a Clubsport without the CS sill decal?  Me neither.  :laugh:

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 26 January 2019, 12:20
I very much like the idea and look of the TCR.  If I didn’t have such a good car already I might be seriously tempted. If I was, it would be grey with the decals, and suffer the mild embarrassment, lol.  I think you take it for what it is and take the decals. Would you have a Clubsport without the CS sill decal?  Me neither.  :laugh:

Think because the hexagonal decals are optional but the TCR logo isn’t it wouldn’t bother me but I see your point. I always find it odd, for example, to see a CS without the black roof. Why would you?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Guzzle on 26 January 2019, 12:24
The TCR decals remind me of the blockbusters board game I had as a kid. Just saying...
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Booth11 on 26 January 2019, 12:27
I very much like the idea and look of the TCR.  If I didn’t have such a good car already I might be seriously tempted. If I was, it would be grey with the decals, and suffer the mild embarrassment, lol.  I think you take it for what it is and take the decals. Would you have a Clubsport without the CS sill decal?  Me neither.  :laugh:

Think because the hexagonal decals are optional but the TCR logo isn’t it wouldn’t bother me but I see your point. I always find it odd, for example, to see a CS without the black roof. Why would you?

Yes, why would you!

I know where your coming from on the TCR decals as they are an option. But they are also a signature of the TCR so for that reason I’d go for them.  That’s saying something from an owner of an R that’s looks just like a bog standard golf.  In fact twice last year I mistook a black base Golf in my works car park for my R.   :grin:  But on a TCR!  To hell with it, I’d want the decals! 

But....

4WD is a very hard thing to let go, and so I shall stick with what I’ve got for another two years and live in hope for a mk8 R, and then live a bit more in hope that it is worth the wait!

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Booth11 on 26 January 2019, 12:28
The TCR decals remind me of the blockbusters board game I had as a kid. Just saying...

Can I have a ‘P’ please Bob?   :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 26 January 2019, 12:43
I very much like the idea and look of the TCR.  If I didn’t have such a good car already I might be seriously tempted. If I was, it would be grey with the decals, and suffer the mild embarrassment, lol.  I think you take it for what it is and take the decals. Would you have a Clubsport without the CS sill decal?  Me neither.  :laugh:

Think because the hexagonal decals are optional but the TCR logo isn’t it wouldn’t bother me but I see your point. I always find it odd, for example, to see a CS without the black roof. Why would you?

Yes, why would you!

I know where your coming from on the TCR decals as they are an option. But they are also a signature of the TCR so for that reason I’d go for them.  That’s saying something from an owner of an R that’s looks just like a bog standard golf.  In fact twice last year I mistook a black base Golf in my works car park for my R.   :grin:  But on a TCR!  To hell with it, I’d want the decals! 

But....

4WD is a very hard thing to let go, and so I shall stick with what I’ve got for another two years and live in hope for a mk8 R, and then live a bit more in hope that it is worth the wait!

4WD. This is the same reason I’m struggling to let the S3 go. Ah. First world problems.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Guzzle on 26 January 2019, 13:39
The TCR decals remind me of the blockbusters board game I had as a kid. Just saying...

Can I have a ‘P’ please Bob?   :grin:

To go with your 'R'?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Booth11 on 26 January 2019, 13:41
The TCR decals remind me of the blockbusters board game I had as a kid. Just saying...

Can I have a ‘P’ please Bob?   :grin:

To go with your 'R'?

All I need is an A and a C and that sums up what my R currently looks like.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: david25 on 27 January 2019, 09:19
Reviewed in Autocar 23 Jan, 4 out 5.

The only new info I spotted was it has the composite brake discs from old GTI Clubsport S
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 29 January 2019, 12:01
Carwow review went live this morning...

https://youtu.be/S68sqP4GKXg

... still no mention of any UK release, prices or specs  :huh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 30 January 2019, 06:15
Just got replies from Volkswizard and Joe Achilles about the TCR. Apparently UK journos went to Portugal on invitation from VW UK so why would the car not be available here.

Joe added that the car should be available next week/month. He said it’s 100% coming to the UK.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 30 January 2019, 09:40
Carwow review went live this morning...

https://youtu.be/S68sqP4GKXg

... still no mention of any UK release, prices or specs  :huh:
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Think Mat Watson sums it up pretty well (as other reviews also indicate) - if you're planning on lots of visits to the track then the TCR is the car for you. If not, get an R. Or my view is a GTI Performance will probably be as good for 95% of the time.  I certainly wouldn't want a GTI that was any less comfortable than mine.

Will be very interesting to see how sales go.. or don't go. Could well be a massive flop with the Mk8 on the horizon.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 31 January 2019, 19:10
I had a reply on twitter from VW uk saying “no uk release has been announced for this model so far “
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 31 January 2019, 19:12
I replied to your tweet!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 31 January 2019, 19:26
I replied to your tweet!  :grin:

Ha ha small world
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 31 January 2019, 19:33
I replied to your tweet!  :grin:

Ha ha small world

Absolutely. I find twitter a good source of info. Obviously not on the tcr though!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 31 January 2019, 19:54
Joe Achilles review.

https://youtu.be/Ez2_6j4EUPM
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Crockers on 01 February 2019, 07:19
It also has a more direct driving rack brought over from the touring car. Upgraded brakes.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 01 February 2019, 14:01
It also has a more direct driving rack brought over from the touring car. Upgraded brakes.

Which as the reviews say will make even better. On the track.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 01 February 2019, 21:24
It also has a more direct driving rack brought over from the touring car. Upgraded brakes.

Which as the reviews say will make even better. On the track.

All the reviews I saw had the car run on 19" wheels. Put 18" wheels on where you have more sidewall and I think it's a fairer basis to consider for UK road use.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 01 February 2019, 21:29
It also has a more direct driving rack brought over from the touring car. Upgraded brakes.

Which as the reviews say will make even better. On the track.

All the reviews I saw had the car run on 19" wheels. Put 18" wheels on where you have more sidewall and I think it's a fairer basis to consider for UK road use.

Ah i see you have one as per your profile footer. What’s it like?!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 02 February 2019, 11:28
Just been to my dealers for another testdrive. Didn’t have both cars I wanted to look at but interestingly they said they expect the tcr within the month as it’s not unusual for them to have no information. ‘Vw are always very vague to say the least.’ Last time I asked them they said it’s concept only so there’s a shift in point of view.

They also increased my discount on an R or gti to around £6.4k and said they would transfer my deposit to a tcr if it comes. They’ve held my discount level for 2 months already. Can’t grumble!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: 2007GTI on 02 February 2019, 11:53
 £6.4k discount, that's very good, much better than current drive the deal and Car Wow, how did you manage that?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 02 February 2019, 11:58
£6.4k discount, that's very good, much better than current drive the deal and Car Wow, how did you manage that?

Basically I went in with DTD quote in December which they matched. Then it’s the fact they’ve held it as prices have increased and then given a bit more today because I’m cheeky.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 02 February 2019, 13:43
£6.4k discount, that's very good, much better than current drive the deal and Car Wow, how did you manage that?

Basically I went in with DTD quote in December which they matched. Then it’s the fact they’ve held it as prices have increased and then given a bit more today because I’m cheeky.

You might have to actually buy one at some point though....!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 02 February 2019, 13:57
£6.4k discount, that's very good, much better than current drive the deal and Car Wow, how did you manage that?

Basically I went in with DTD quote in December which they matched. Then it’s the fact they’ve held it as prices have increased and then given a bit more today because I’m cheeky.

Ooooooh. That hurt!  :wink:

You might have to actually buy one at some point though....!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Tonyrhill on 02 February 2019, 15:39
I have been waiting to order a TCR. Contact in VW Milton Keynes has no useful info. Not sure it will come to UK now. I ha e just ordered an R as fed up of waiting.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: P6GTD on 02 February 2019, 15:52
Autocar’s list of new car intros for 2019 has the TCR scheduled for around 7/19 and the Mk8 in Nov 19 with GTI following in 2020.
Would this explain a lot? Or nothing at all??
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 02 February 2019, 16:57
It also has a more direct driving rack brought over from the touring car. Upgraded brakes.

Which as the reviews say will make even better. On the track.

All the reviews I saw had the car run on 19" wheels. Put 18" wheels on where you have more sidewall and I think it's a fairer basis to consider for UK road use.

Ah i see you have one as per your profile footer. What’s it like?!  :grin:

It's fabulous, really good on track apparently.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 05 February 2019, 17:08
So VW UK tweeted the following today:

0-62mph in 5.6 seconds and 162mph optional derestricted top speed. The new Golf GTI TCR is our new GTI performance champion. #VWGTI #GolfGTITCR

Of course, they haven’t replied to confirm whether this means it’s coming to the UK. Incompetent.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 07 February 2019, 08:25
So VW UK tweeted the following today:

0-62mph in 5.6 seconds and 162mph optional derestricted top speed. The new Golf GTI TCR is our new GTI performance champion. #VWGTI #GolfGTITCR

Of course, they haven’t replied to confirm whether this means it’s coming to the UK. Incompetent.

I think the organisation is inherited from Germany. They haven't even got it in the German configurator yet. Similar questions and grumbling happening on IG.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 07 February 2019, 09:38
It’s been on the German site for a couple of weeks(ish) already.

https://www.volkswagen.de/de/models/golf-gti-tcr.html

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 07 February 2019, 18:04
Correct. Been on the Belgium Configurator for about 2 months and German for about one I think. Pathetic really.

Vw have once again replied to my tweet to say that there’s currently no plans for the tcr to come to the UK. They need to stop tweeting about it then. Useless.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 08 February 2019, 19:09
Correct. Been on the Belgium Configurator for about 2 months and German for about one I think. Pathetic really.

Vw have once again replied to my tweet to say that there’s currently no plans for the tcr to come to the UK. They need to stop tweeting about it then. Useless.

Uk get no respect from car manufacturers always last to get cars and can’t get the limited stuff
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 08 February 2019, 20:02
Correct. Been on the Belgium Configurator for about 2 months and German for about one I think. Pathetic really.

Vw have once again replied to my tweet to say that there’s currently no plans for the tcr to come to the UK. They need to stop tweeting about it then. Useless.

Uk get no respect from car manufacturers always last to get cars and can’t get the limited stuff

Couldn’t agree more. I was very tempted to leave an ‘interesting’ comment on twitter after their response. Why tweet about a car that isn’t coming?? 

I’ll be ordering my car tomorrow with any luck. The TCR won’t be coming imo.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 08 February 2019, 20:18
Ford are as bad not saying if there’s a mk4 focus rs coming out all people will do is buying something else then sales are lost
I’m would buy a TCR or mk4 RS but have no idea if they are coming so will go into used market for CSS or RS3 at this rate
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: 2007GTI on 08 February 2019, 21:34
Maybe VW UK read all these forums and do it purposely to stoke the fire and increase interest / demand, like the theory, if there's a queue for an item it must be good.  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 10 February 2019, 19:19
Maybe some news this week ?? Although I won’t be holding my breath.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 10 February 2019, 19:38
I’ve just ordered an R so yes,we’ll definitely see it now.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Snoopy on 10 February 2019, 22:47
VWuk (not dealers, they can only report what they are told) have always being the same. Ive had this issue since we bought our first new VW in 1996 nothings changed and I expect nothing ever will as long as the customer base keeps coming buying their cars.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 14 February 2019, 21:46
Maybe some news this week ?? Although I won’t be holding my breath.

Should have know I was talking arse .... 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 15 February 2019, 05:27
Maybe some news this week ?? Although I won’t be holding my breath.

Should have know I was talking arse ....

 :grin:

I really can’t see how it’s coming to us anymore.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: P6GTD on 15 February 2019, 08:21
Much earlier in this thread I observed that Autocar recently listed the TCR as to be released around midsummer.
The Mk8 Golf was listed for Nov 19.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 15 February 2019, 11:52
Maybe some news this week ?? Although I won’t be holding my breath.

Should have know I was talking arse ....

 :grin:

I really can’t see how it’s coming to us anymore.

Yeah, you would have imagined that from a marketing perspective, they would have announced UK prices straight after the UK journos all drove it.

It will be a massive flop if they release it here now as too much talk of the Mk8. Plus, it's a track oriented car so actually not much use here in the UK for an everyday car.

You're better off with R anyway!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 15 February 2019, 17:44
Maybe some news this week ?? Although I won’t be holding my breath.

Should have know I was talking arse ....

 :grin:

I really can’t see how it’s coming to us anymore.

You're better off with R anyway!


I had a new R in early 2018 - a complete bore fess to drive compared to a GTI. Sold it after 2 months and replaced it with a new GTI Performance. Which has since been sold and currently for sale at Maidstone VW
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 15 February 2019, 18:12
The GTD was re-added to the configurator yesterday evening, so they are seemingly still updating the website... but no sign of the TCR... but stranger still there’s no sign of the R even though dealers are saying they are taking orders again.

A shambles. :huh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 15 February 2019, 18:14
Maybe some news this week ?? Although I won’t be holding my breath.

Should have know I was talking arse ....

 :grin:

I really can’t see how it’s coming to us anymore.

You're better off with R anyway!


I had a new R in early 2018 - a complete bore fess to drive compared to a GTI. Sold it after 2 months and replaced it with a new GTI Performance. Which has since been sold and currently for sale at Maidstone VW

Both great imo, just in different ways. Hope I like my R but I’d also be happy with a gti. Let’s face it, the Mk7 is a great one.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 15 February 2019, 18:18
The GTD was re-added to the configurator yesterday evening, so they are seemingly still updating the website... but no sign of the TCR... but stranger still there’s no sign of the R even though dealers are saying they are taking orders again.

A shambles. :huh:

Totally agree. They haven’t got a clue what they’re doing. Even though the R has been off the website for ages I think it’s been available to order, if you can wait 9 months.  :whistle:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Brenbo on 15 February 2019, 19:52
I have had both GTI PP and Golf R and can confirm you will like the Golf R.  Also both the GTI Performance and Golf R are great cars and very capable in their own way.  I usually get the itch to change the car after a year but have not had any kind of urge to change in the Golf R I currently own, it is that good.  Also the GTI PP I owned before it was a great car and I owned it for at least 3 years.   The reason some think the Golf R is a bore fest is because it is a really solid capable car that makes your drive really effortless and easy, while in the same breath rather quick.  I have had hot hatches for a few decades now and the Golf R still puts the biggest smile on my face when i drive....  I guess it all just comes down to personal preference and what you look for in a car.  It's not going to please everyone all of the time.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 15 February 2019, 19:53
On a positive. I sold my 5 month old GTI when I heard about the TCR back in August.
Since then I’ve had a BMW i8 and a BMW M2 Competition, so it’s not all bad waiting for a TCR.

The dealer still has my Golf GTI for sale, It’s beautiful with only 2,000 miles on the clock.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 20 February 2019, 18:29
Latest info on twitter from volkswizard.

Just heard from David Lay at Murray VW, Newton Abbot, Devon (the chap who made the Clubsport S purchase so special) that #GTI #TCR is available to order from 21/2.  It’s not something I can see ex-CSS owners getting too excited about TBH but I am sure it will be a great car #vw

Make of it what you will.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 20 February 2019, 18:36
Gotta life Vw uk live chat. Just told me that they aren’t the best to know about new releases. I should ask my local dealer. 😂
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 20 February 2019, 18:50
Press release tomorrow apparently. Don’t hold your breath. I don’t want to be responsible for any fatalities.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 20 February 2019, 18:54
The R was added back onto the configurator today, so it wouldn't surprise me if the TCR gets added soon if that engine is now WLTP compliant... then we can all gasp/laugh at the cost of the thing!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 20 February 2019, 19:06
The R was added back onto the configurator today, so it wouldn't surprise me if the TCR gets added soon if that engine is now WLTP compliant... then we can all gasp/laugh at the cost of the thing!  :grin:

Very true. £36k. Basic?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: boardlord on 20 February 2019, 19:32
TCR now loaded onto DtD 3dr £34135 and 5dr £34790
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 20 February 2019, 19:47
Bloody hell. Speechless.  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 20 February 2019, 19:49
And they’re offering discount. Wow. £5.7k.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: boardlord on 20 February 2019, 19:55
And they’re offering discount. Wow. £5.7k.

As it's only just gone on with no options loaded yet i'd be amazed if they honour that price, with the discount it's only £2500 dearer than a GTI - would be a no brainer for me if I didn't alreadt have a GTI to collect next week.

Now it's available I hope the discounts are not at that level or the GTI wont be around long LOL

Wonder if there will be any cancelled GTI's and R's happening now?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 20 February 2019, 20:05
And they’re offering discount. Wow. £5.7k.

As it's only just gone on with no options loaded yet i'd be amazed if they honour that price, with the discount it's only £2500 dearer than a GTI - would be a no brainer for me if I didn't alreadt have a GTI to collect next week.

Now it's available I hope the discounts are not at that level or the GTI wont be around long LOL

Wonder if there will be any cancelled GTI's and R's happening now?

Think that shows that it won’t be limited edition, just a limited run due to Mk7 production.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 20 February 2019, 20:11
What’s DtD?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: boardlord on 20 February 2019, 20:13
What’s DtD?

https://www.drivethedeal.com/
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 20 February 2019, 22:00
It’s going to be expensive after you add the toys.
Larger alloys, adaptive dampers, exhaust.

About time though.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 20 February 2019, 22:18
Agreed. I bet the dcc on 19s will be £2k alone.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 21 February 2019, 06:24
Tcr on uk Configurator
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 21 February 2019, 06:26
Pure grey plus black roof is over 1k. Wow.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 21 February 2019, 07:22
Pure grey plus black roof is over 1k. Wow.

Yes, VW are charging an extra £550 on top of the cost of the body colour paint if you want the black roof option. Pure Grey solid paint costs the same as it does to have Deep Back Pearl pearlescent paint (£580) and twice as much as it does for the Tornado Red solid paint option (£290). Assume VW would try and justify the higher cost on the basis that Pure Grey is exclusive to the TCR model. It might be exclusive, but it takes no more paint to paint the body shell grey than it does to paint it red!

Oryx White with the black roof option costs an eye watering £1,545 :shocked:.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 21 February 2019, 07:32
Yeah. I laughed at this! Not sure they’ll sell many at the price point it’s come in at. It’s slightly more than the R I’ve got coming. Food for thought still though.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 21 February 2019, 07:56
Yeah. I laughed at this! Not sure they’ll sell many at the price point it’s come in at. It’s slightly more than the R I’ve got coming. Food for thought still though.
Unlike the CS40 was with the 7 GTI, IMO the TCR isn’t different enough to warrant buying it over a 7.5 GTI Performance. Sure, the TCR is a bit better on track, but how many people would go out and buy a TCR specifically for the track, not many I would wager. I don’t think the choice of the R comes into this as they are very different cars for very different uses, so it’s a GTI245 v TCR choice.

The TCR produces the same torque as the 245P, you get with the TCR 45 more hp, some vented disc and 5mm lower, and.... errrrrr, well that’s it...!  :huh: No buckets, just some wheels recycled from the old CS or a new design, a paint taken from the VAG palette and a slightly different front and rear diffuser/splitter arrangement. 

Unlike the MK7 CS/CSS the MK7.5 TCR is clearly more of a styling/branding exercise, I personally can’t see them selling many.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 21 February 2019, 08:44
Is it me or can any one find a 3 door option ? On Vw uk site ?

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 21 February 2019, 08:50
The 3 door is there.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 21 February 2019, 09:10
My dealer has just sent me the official info. Never thought it’d happen. Anyone tempted?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 21 February 2019, 09:18
Just had my dealer email the release details.
I’ve told him I am going to wait until the weekend to decide on what I’m
Going to do. I have a feeling I’m going to loose a fortune as I will only own it until the mk8 lands on uk shores.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 February 2019, 09:24
That must be a new level of rip off - flat grey paint for £580!!  WOW  :shocked:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 21 February 2019, 09:55
That must be a new level of rip off - flat grey paint for £580!!  WOW  :shocked:
VAG have form for this... Vegas Yellow, Turbo Blue and Pulse Orange are all currently cost options on Audi cars, even though they are solid. Audi now only offer Ibis White as a no cost solid paint option. Given the grey was always going to be popular, I'm not surprised they are charging for it.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 21 February 2019, 10:27
My dealers have said zero discount. Bargain then. I’ll take two.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: JoeGTI on 21 February 2019, 10:36
That must be a new level of rip off - flat grey paint for £580!!  WOW  :shocked:

It sure is. That grey and the red are both no-cost options in Ireland. The black roof is around 700 euro extra though. Someone is having a serious laugh at you guys  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 21 February 2019, 10:39
My dealers have said zero discount. Bargain then. I’ll take two.
I'm sure discounts will start appearing once the order books look empty, it was the same with the CS40, the hardcore came in first, but by the time the 7.5 appeared there were still CS40's sat in showrooms unsold and being discounted.

For curiosity I've just built a TCR to my equivalent spec (I've had to manually add the leccy driver's seat as it appears you can't spec it on the TCR, probably for weight reasons). Based on zero discount for a TCR it comes in at £9500 more expensive(!) than my build was after the discount I received! :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 February 2019, 10:58
But no one would spec leather electric seats in a TCR!!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 21 February 2019, 11:15
The Leon Cupra 290 looks the same spec if not better so why would you buy a TCR for nearly 9k more?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 February 2019, 11:22
The Leon Cupra 290 looks the same spec if not better so why would you buy a TCR for nearly 9k more?

Probably the same reason you aren't driving a Leon! It's not a Golf  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 21 February 2019, 11:22
Personally, although I could cancel my R, I'm not sure why I would considering how it'll work out slightly more than my spec. It's not limited edition so value might not hold as much as we'd like. Even with discounts, I don't think it makes a lot of sense. Residuals might well be key.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 21 February 2019, 11:26
The Leon Cupra 290 looks the same spec if not better so why would you buy a TCR for nearly 9k more?

Probably the same reason you aren't driving a Leon! It's not a Golf  :smiley:
I'm going to look at a Leon Cupra 290 Lux which as you say isn't a golf but I'm not a badge snob and the Leon has better standard spec than a GTi pp and more power and the last time I looked at parts they had the vag group logos on not just VW. Granted I haven't sat in a Leon since I had a 2005 FR diesel but if the money adds up then it could be bye bye Golf.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 February 2019, 11:29
The Leon Cupra 290 looks the same spec if not better so why would you buy a TCR for nearly 9k more?

Probably the same reason you aren't driving a Leon! It's not a Golf  :smiley:
I'm going to look at a Leon Cupra 290 Lux which as you say isn't a golf but I'm not a badge snob and the Leon has better standard spec than a GTi pp and more power and the last time I looked at parts they had the vag group logos on not just VW. Granted I haven't sat in a Leon since I had a 2005 FR diesel but if the money adds up then it could be bye bye Golf.

I'd consider a Leon, they do look and tend to be slightly better spec'd than the equivalent Golf. Imagine they will look dated inside unless they facelift as no digital dash.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 21 February 2019, 11:34
Smaller, cheaper, dated and I believe SEAT have dropped options entirely now except colour - its model specs only.

Is it VAG engineering? Yes of course. Is it fast? Arguably faster without the weight of all of those Golf luxury items.

Would I want one? No.

What you need to watch out for with them is the total cost of ownership though. The depreciation of a Leon is massively more than a Golf. The start price might seem less but over 3 years from new you probably are talking the same cost...

I looked at both the Leon and the Octavia before buying this GTD... and it didn't work out cheaper.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 21 February 2019, 11:45
The Leon has virtually everything. It's got active info display as standard unless my eyes are deceiving me on the Seat website. Also comes with DCC as standard too and with discounts can be had for around 26k.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 February 2019, 11:55
The Leon has virtually everything. It's got active info display as standard unless my eyes are deceiving me on the Seat website. Also comes with DCC as standard too and with discounts can be had for around 26k.

Didn't know it had the active dash now..  :smiley:

Think Fred is right though, factor in depreciation and might be a different story...
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 21 February 2019, 12:19
I agree totally but i think the lower starting price along with level of discount might counteract depreciation etc. 👍
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 February 2019, 12:49
I agree totally but i think the lower starting price along with level of discount might counteract depreciation etc. 👍

That's one hell of a car for £23k....  :shocked:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201902084744326?aggregatedTrim=Cupra%20290&postcode=s37bh&sort=sponsored&make=SEAT&advertising-location=at_cars&transmission=Automatic&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=LEON&radius=1500&year-from=2017&page=1
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 21 February 2019, 13:33
Yeah you get DCC, 19's, "leather" and some other bits on the Cupra 290.

As for finance.... the non-lux Cupra vs the GTI performance.... not much in it.

Its made worse by SEAT offering  6.4% on PCP vs 3.6% from VW and SEAT don't offer a deposit contribution.

Of course PCP residuals are different to real world ones and actually selling a Golf GTI is never an issue, whereas a SEAT?

I've also known two different friends who in the last couple of years have had engines blow on their Cupra's...
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 21 February 2019, 13:46

I was in my dealer this morning for something else and had a conversation with the salesman that I deal with. The answer to everything was 'I don't know'.

DTD are estimating 16-18 weeks lead time which is based on an order for an R that was placed this week. Someone mentioned 9 months on the forum recently so seems everything is now aligned in terms of model lead times.

Put my configuration together and came to £37k. VW dealer said they're not discounting and he looked mildly horrified when I showed him DTD's page and suggested that he should try if he wants my business.

- It's a bit of a p1sstake to charge for Pure Grey. Maybe for the grey/black combination but it's the launch colour.  :angry:

- I can't tell but are the Quantara wheels diamond cut? They look like it but the images are postage stamp sized and a Google search produces multiple similar name options of a different design. I was hoping for a little more pliancy but won't go near diamond cut wheels based on white worm problems previously.

Just waiting on a query regarding the price of Pretoria alloys but going ahead with the order as the differential on a GTI Performance is about £1,500 and the difference is worth it for me.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 21 February 2019, 14:13
Wait for your dealer to tell you that DTD is not an official VW dealer supplied vehicle...

Before anyone asks.... oh yes it is!

In fact if you get the real quote, you'll get it on their dealer letterhead.... complete with VW logo...
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: andy28 on 21 February 2019, 14:19

- I can't tell but are the Quantara wheels diamond cut? They look like it but the images are postage stamp sized and a Google search produces multiple similar name options of a different design. I was hoping for a little more pliancy but won't go near diamond cut wheels based on white worm problems previously.


Hi AGB, the Quaranta (or Belvedere as they are also known) alloys are great but yes they are diamond cut.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 21 February 2019, 14:23
@AGB; pretty certain the Belvedere alloys that were the standard wheels on the Clubsport are also known as Quaranta in some markets, so Quaranta and Belvedere are one and the same thing.

The Belvedere alloys on the Clubsport were diamond cut, and look exactly the same as the TCR standard Quaranta alloys in the configurator - i.e. diamond cut. I think the big clue they’re diamond cut is the recessed areas are black and the face is shiny metal; during the manufacturing process, they’ll have been completely painted / powder coated black, and then the face will have been ‘cut’ to remove the paint / powder coat finish from the face to reveal the metal prior to lacquering.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 21 February 2019, 14:25
But no one would spec leather electric seats in a TCR!!  :grin:
I would. :smiley:

but I'm not a badge snob
The thing is though your point is your subjective view on "value" as an argument, it's not really about being a badge snob. When I sat inside a SEAT, my subjective view was the quality of the materials, fixtures & finish, equipment levels etc was inferior in so many places that matter to me. It didn't, for me, feel as nice a place to be as the Golf, it didn't feel special enough. The GTI brand is also strong, it's a brand I like and can relate too, that is reflected in the residual values of both cars.

Sure the SEAT is cheaper, but it's cheaper for a reason, because it's built to cheaper margins. That's not to say VW don't build the Golf to margins, but those margins are different to SEAT margins.

I'm also not saying I'm right, that's just my view. SEAT exists for a specific target audience, I am not in that target, but that's not to say I'm wrong for choosing the Golf over the SEAT. I just don't personally see the SEAT as good "value", I see it as a cheaper alternative. Ironically, from personal experience having sat in a new Superb recently, I rank the Skoda product higher than SEAT.

 :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 21 February 2019, 14:32
Wait for your dealer to tell you that DTD is not an official VW dealer supplied vehicle...

Before anyone asks.... oh yes it is!

In fact if you get the real quote, you'll get it on their dealer letterhead.... complete with VW logo...

They tried that on me once before and I just stood up to leave and said 'I don't mind where I spend the money as long as I get the car'. The salesman did a great back peddle.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 21 February 2019, 14:34
@AGB; pretty certain the Belvedere alloys that were the standard wheels on the Clubsport are also known as Quaranta in some markets, so Quaranta and Belvedere are one and the same thing.

The Belvedere alloys on the Clubsport were diamond cut, and look exactly the same as the TCR standard Quaranta alloys in the configurator - i.e. diamond cut. I think the big clue they’re diamond cut is the recessed areas are black and the face is shiny metal; during the manufacturing process, they’ll have been completely painted / powder coated black, and then the face will have been ‘cut’ to remove the paint / powder coat finish from the face to reveal the metal prior to lacquering.

This is why this forum is so great. Yeah, I thought they were Diamond Cut but always worth double checking. I've had problems with white worm on diamond cut wheels - frustrating from a break in the lacquer caused by a stone chip. Thanks for the reply.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 21 February 2019, 14:34

- I can't tell but are the Quantara wheels diamond cut? They look like it but the images are postage stamp sized and a Google search produces multiple similar name options of a different design. I was hoping for a little more pliancy but won't go near diamond cut wheels based on white worm problems previously.


Hi AGB, the Quaranta (or Belvedere as they are also known) alloys are great but yes they are diamond cut.

Perfect, thanks for the confirmation. Appreciated.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 February 2019, 15:39
That must be a new level of rip off - flat grey paint for £580!!  WOW  :shocked:

It sure is. That grey and the red are both no-cost options in Ireland. The black roof is around 700 euro extra though. Someone is having a serious laugh at you guys  :grin:

Sure the grey is free on the Tiguan as the basic colour. You must really want to go on a track to get a TCR!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 21 February 2019, 17:34
The free grey on some of the Tiguan models is Urano Grey. The grey that VW are charging £580 for on the Golf TCR is Pure Grey and unique to the Golf TCR only, so not the same colour grey as the free grey on many VW models.

I must say I do like the Pure Grey. Not sure I’d pay £580 for the privilege of having it though.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 21 February 2019, 17:57
That’s the thing, it’s not exclusive. It’s a colour from the Vw transporter I believe.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 21 February 2019, 18:06
That’s the thing, it’s not exclusive. It’s a colour from the Vw transporter I believe.

So it is! Every day’s a school day.

I wonder how much it costs to have Pure Grey on a Transporter, or maybe it’s the free colour!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 21 February 2019, 18:16
😂😂😂

On another note, just spoke to the dealer supplying my R. He’s getting back to me tomorrow but is currently saying that the tcr is open to all the discounts that a pp gti is.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: douglaslad on 21 February 2019, 18:17
Would like to point out that the 18" Belvedere wheels that originally came as standard on the Clubsport are definitely are not diamond cut.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 February 2019, 18:21
Would like to point out that the 18" Belvedere wheels that originally came as standard on the Clubsport are definitely are not diamond cut.

But they are polished?

https://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/wheels-18-inch-rims-belvedere-vw-golf-7-vii-gti-genuine-volkswagen.htm
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Guzzle on 21 February 2019, 18:23
That’s the thing, it’s not exclusive. It’s a colour from the Vw transporter I believe.

...and Oryx White is a 'free' colour on the SEAT Tarraco, even on base models!  :huh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 21 February 2019, 18:24
Its been removed from Drive The Deal.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 21 February 2019, 18:26
😂😂😂

He’s getting back to me tomorrow but is currently saying that the tcr is open to all the discounts that a pp gti is.

His is correct.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 21 February 2019, 19:13
Gutted there’s no bucket seat or exhaust option
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: JoeGTI on 21 February 2019, 19:26
Would like to point out that the 18" Belvedere wheels that originally came as standard on the Clubsport are definitely are not diamond cut.

You sound confused yourself there.

The Belvedere alloys are (were) unquestionably diamond cut.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: douglaslad on 21 February 2019, 19:55
Perhaps I am and must admit that I am no expert on the differences (if any) between diamond cut and polished. I am only going by what it mentions on the manufacturers website and thought the best way to describe the Belvedere wheels would be forged alloy rather than diamond cut but as I said previously I am no expert. 

https://www.fuchsfelge.com/en/wheel-program/detail/vw-golf-leichtbau-schmiederad-409.html
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: JoeGTI on 21 February 2019, 20:02
Perhaps I am and must admit that I am no expert on the differences (if any) between diamond cut and polished. I am only going by what it mentions on the manufacturers website and thought the best way to describe the Belvedere wheels would be forged alloy rather than diamond cut but as I said previously I am no expert. 

https://www.fuchsfelge.com/en/wheel-program/detail/vw-golf-leichtbau-schmiederad-409.html

Diamond cut refers to the finish applied to the wheel, nothing to do with it being forged or not. The wheel is painted black (hence the black inserts) and then lathed back on the face, then lacquered. That gives the effect of the very shiny spokes. Problem is they’re very prone to ugly corrosion if/when that lacquer is damaged.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 21 February 2019, 20:13
Perhaps I am and must admit that I am no expert on the differences (if any) between diamond cut and polished. I am only going by what it mentions on the manufacturers website and thought the best way to describe the Belvedere wheels would be forged alloy rather than diamond cut but as I said previously I am no expert. 

https://www.fuchsfelge.com/en/wheel-program/detail/vw-golf-leichtbau-schmiederad-409.html

Diamond cut refers to the finish applied to the wheel, nothing to do with it being forged or not. The wheel is painted black (hence the black inserts) and then lathed back on the face, then lacquered. That gives the effect of the very shiny spokes. Problem is they’re very prone to ugly corrosion if/when that lacquer is damaged.

And ‘polished’ or ‘machined finish’ are alternative names for a diamond cut finish, so wheels described as polished, machined or diamond cut will have these shiny metal, lathe cut sections (usually the spokes and / or wheel rim) on the face of the wheel.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 21 February 2019, 20:27
Its been removed from Drive The Deal.

I spoke to them this afternoon and they said they were taking it down and reloading it with the configuration options. I had to give them my spec manually as they only had the base car in with no options. Expect it'll be back tomorrow, they're more sales focused than Volkswagen.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 21 February 2019, 20:39
That’s the thing, it’s not exclusive. It’s a colour from the Vw transporter I believe.

It is a colour from the Transporter, you're right. Initially, I thought it might have been Grey Black which is a Porsche colour, looks similar and is a lovely creamy flat colour. It does look good.

This video gives you a better sense of the colour under typical UK light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFf9rwlOe_o although you might want to mute it and be prepared for what appears to be a vehicle tour achieved by strapping a GoPro onto an enthusiastic dog with an attention deficit.  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 22 February 2019, 09:15

Previously ran a GTD for 3 years, decided to then jump over the GTI to my present R and its an amazing car, DSG, AWD and 300 BHP is a stunning combination and when add in the DCC and auto hold its a car where you have no compromise, you get the comfortable painless commuter and the ability at the press of a button to some genuine performance over and above what will ever need or can use on a UK road.

Have to select my changeover in April and choice was going to be easy, a continuation of this love affair with a 7.5 R

Had also looked at the new baby AMG A35 as was worried the WLTP issues may extend into April and the R might not be available and from having a good look at the new A series AMG Line its a far improved car over the outgoing version, however to have the car you really want would creep it over £40,000 and ordering the R is likely now not an issue and so the R is still the main choice.

However! the TCR? Had an exchange of posts on here with Exonian a while back discussing the TCR and how much liked it but I thought it would be a limited run and basically not an option, but have I think found that it will be available to order till the end of the MK7 run later this and very likely there to order in April

Its turned my head, its style now vs the R AWD and traction which I love so much and made me jump over the GTI originally

But here I am starting to convince myself I can live with the occasional tramping for the this really nice fisnish the the MK7 performance range.

Never as a youngster wanted an R, the cars that always wanted was an Audi Quattro (which have done twice) and a Golf GTI and the nostalgia is setting in, and seriously thinking to fulfilling that youthful wish and completing the set by driving the GTD, R and finally the GTI

Not many concerns really, think have good understanding to the compromise on traction, and am used to it, as occasionally drive my wife A1 Black Edition 185 BHP which will spin its wheels from time to time.

The R is so planted, so secure as push it, that maybe it will be nice to return to the lighter feel of the GTI when pushing the curves.

Ride should be fine as would option the DCC with those lovely alloys but the 5 cm further lowering does concern a little as I do not want to return to compromised rides - No real mention in any reviews seen so far and something to keep monitoring as road tests increase

Like the increased aggressive styling of the TCR, which is still VW subtle, but definitely noticeable, and really really like all the red accents, and thats inside and out, thinks its perfectly done and as where the cabin experience in the R is quite refined but bland the GTI TCR adds some definite lustre with the red trimmings.

The new grey is nice or the classic white are the options as both work really well with the accents.

So I have a dilemma, the increased style of the TCR in combination with its great performance but sometimes compromised traction, vs the full capability of the R in any conditions - BHP is not even a thought as both are quick enough for me to get around as I like to.

Any other R owners looking at the TCR?



 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 22 February 2019, 09:22
All the final options and prices have been added to the VW configurator overnight. This one caught my eye.

Honeycomb side decals 'TCR' - £550

£550!!!!!  :laugh: :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 22 February 2019, 09:38
All the final options and prices have been added to the VW configurator overnight. This one caught my eye.

Honeycomb side decals 'TCR' - £550

£550!!!!!  :laugh: :grin:

Would pay £350 to remove :) - the only thing that do not like and glad its an option that can simply avoid!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 22 February 2019, 09:43
All the final options and prices have been added to the VW configurator overnight. This one caught my eye.

Honeycomb side decals 'TCR' - £550

£550!!!!!  :laugh: :grin:

Would pay £350 to remove :) - the only thing that do not like and glad its an option that can simply avoid!

The TCR looks like a pants pulling down exercise for those who want a GTI less suitable for normal roads! £550 for those horrendous stickers and £580 for flat grey paint. Is anyone really that daft?!

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 22 February 2019, 09:58
Some of these details and specifications are nonsense!

I think a TCR could be a very rare sight on UK roads. I recall VW suggested they were "only" bringing 1000 x Mk 7, CS Edition 40 into the UK.
Did that result in around 600 cars registered?

Where is the market on TCR registrations?
At the moment, I think it could be <half that of the CS ?? :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 22 February 2019, 10:09
All the final options and prices have been added to the VW configurator overnight. This one caught my eye.

Honeycomb side decals 'TCR' - £550

£550!!!!!  :laugh: :grin:

Would pay £350 to remove :) - the only thing that do not like and glad its an option that can simply avoid!

The TCR looks like a pants pulling down exercise for those who want a GTI less suitable for normal roads! £550 for those horrendous stickers and £580 for flat grey paint. Is anyone really that daft?!


Personally like the grey paint and its pricing is in line with the nano on the Audi and no more expensive than any colour option on any VW - paint pricing is basically whats in vogue and though we all think its just grey paint, its in vogue grey paint  :wink:

Now, the contrast paint options are too expensive, take the white, its an extra £550 for the black roof and thats halfway to a Panoramic Roof if want some contrast - the black roof is £650 more on the grey!

What makes you say less suitable for normal roads? and thats a straight up question as personally really like the styling of the TCR and seriously looking at passing over another R when choose again in April - The only point i have made out as potentially an issue is the ride is 5 cm lower
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 22 February 2019, 10:14
What makes you say less suitable for normal roads?
It rides lower, and VW have said the damping rate on the standard springs and also in the DCC has been setup stiffer across all the selections.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 22 February 2019, 10:19
Some of these details and specifications are nonsense!

I think a TCR could be a very rare sight on UK roads. I recall VW suggested they were "only" bringing 1000 x Mk 7, CS Edition 40 into the UK.
Did that result in around 600 cars registered?

Where is the market on TCR registrations?
At the moment, I think it could be <half that of the CS ?? :)

What specifications do you consider nonsense? again, straight question as truly trying to understand what would be getting if seriously looked the TCR way and not want to have surprises not considered?

TCR is not a short run version, its just giving the MK 7 a send off with some additional styling and tweaks and a tip of hat to the TCR track car - so you can order one of these to the last day the MK7 sits up on the VW website.

Imagine its going to be well into 2020 before MK 8 performance go one sale, so one more year for the MK7 performance?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 22 February 2019, 10:25
What makes you say less suitable for normal roads?
It rides lower, and VW have said the damping rate on the standard springs and also in the DCC has been setup stiffer across all the selections.

My R is pretty cossetted on 19" Pretoria to point that rarely use comfort as its too soft and bouncy (which I put down to the Pretoria though being 19" being light alloys)

So if my normal on the R became comfort on the TCR it would be still quite decent.

That was my only concern and I will have to be certain so I will be asking for a test drive, straight out of my R into the TCR and back to the R should tell me all need to know pretty quickly
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 22 February 2019, 11:00
Just priced up R that would likely spec = £38530 the TCR that would likely spec = £37765

A GTI PP would be £34,905 (though i do not like any of the wheel options personally, this price is with Brescia)

AWD is a lot to give up for the increased styling for £765 maybe not the dilemma that thought

Obviously thats straight up pricing off the website and not necessarily what anyone pays once looked around but think their price point is not quite right when pitching it so close to the R

Quite like the new baby AMG A35 but that tops out at £40,035 due to the premium packs having all bits really want.

Intend to see the TCR in flesh and if get the feeling then test drive, but based on that pricing difference to the R have cooled my heels a bit
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TurboTrev on 22 February 2019, 11:20
I swapped from a 7R to a CS as I wanted a more exclusive and much rarer car and I don't regret it at all.  My CS has DCC with 19s and I need to keep it in comfort for most of the time.  My 7R had 19s and no DCC and I didn't have any problem with the ride quality.  Does the CS have firmer suspension than a normal GTI, I seem to recollect it does?  Given my experience, I would definitely specify DCC on a TCR due to the firmer suspension. 

Disappointingly, given its touring car heritage, it really is a shame that the TCR does not have bucket seats, CS rear spoiler and a different exhaust to make it that bit more special.  That said, because the spec doesn't really overlap with the CS, it means that CS will remain a sort after car with its own unique very desirable spec..

I certainly wouldn't swop my CS for one, but I would buy it in front of a GTi or an R due to its exclusivity.  The TCR will be a rare car and I reckon it will be pretty sort after in the used market a few years down the line. 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 22 February 2019, 14:01
All the final options and prices have been added to the VW configurator overnight. This one caught my eye.

Honeycomb side decals 'TCR' - £550

£550!!!!!  :laugh: :grin:

Would pay £350 to remove :) - the only thing that do not like and glad its an option that can simply avoid!

The TCR looks like a pants pulling down exercise for those who want a GTI less suitable for normal roads! £550 for those horrendous stickers and £580 for flat grey paint. Is anyone really that daft?!


Personally like the grey paint and its pricing is in line with the nano on the Audi and no more expensive than any colour option on any VW - paint pricing is basically whats in vogue and though we all think its just grey paint, its in vogue grey paint  :wink:

Now, the contrast paint options are too expensive, take the white, its an extra £550 for the black roof and thats halfway to a Panoramic Roof if want some contrast - the black roof is £650 more on the grey!

What makes you say less suitable for normal roads? and thats a straight up question as personally really like the styling of the TCR and seriously looking at passing over another R when choose again in April - The only point i have made out as potentially an issue is the ride is 5 cm lower

The Autogefühl review mentioned more than once that the TCR is set up for someone wanting a GTI to go on the track frequently as opposed to the GTI Performance which is aimed at everyday road driving.

It's a flat colour whichever way you look at it, fashion or no fashion. They can only charge if people are willing to pay for it!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TurboTrev on 22 February 2019, 15:03
Here's a link to the official VWUK Press Release:  https://vwpress.co.uk/en-gb/releases/3666

Interestingly, no mention of any suspension changes.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 22 February 2019, 16:50
Anyone been able to negotiate a discount?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 22 February 2019, 16:53
Anyone been able to negotiate a discount?

Apparently you can get it unpainted and they will only charge an extra £250!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 22 February 2019, 16:55
Anyone been able to negotiate a discount?

Apparently you can get it unpainted and they will only charge an extra £250!  :grin:

Now that was funny!

My R is due to arrive next week, my S3 needs new tyres really so can’t wait any length of time for discounts to appear. DTD still hasn’t relisted the TCR.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 22 February 2019, 16:57
I think getting an R was a good choice  :cool:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 22 February 2019, 17:02
Thank you, sir. 👍
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 23 February 2019, 11:13
Anyone been able to negotiate a discount?

Yes, £6.5k.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 23 February 2019, 12:14
Wow. That’s considerably more than DTD, a pp gti or an R.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 23 February 2019, 12:17
Who’s the supplying dealer and what spec did you go for?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 23 February 2019, 18:14
Who’s the supplying dealer and what spec did you go for?

I have two dealers who have matched the price and DTD were only £450 out on that figure if I recall. I'm going to give the business to the dealer who'll transport the car to my detailer and am waiting for them to come back to me. Happy to DM you details when paperwork is finalised, presumably on Monday. I gather the systems were not configured to produce the order with all the items in my spec. I'm sure the lack of organisation and preparation doesn't surprise you.

Spec is TCR in Pure Grey, 19" Pretoria with DCC, TCR Interior, Lane Assist Plus with Dynamic Light Assist, 90% Rear Tint, Climate Windscreen. Spec is £38,340.00. Discount is £6,380 and change. Have to go through a finance deal to get a £1,500 contribution which is an irritation as I'll just get rid of it the day after I get the car but as it's VWFS and not dealer, there isn't a way around it.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 23 February 2019, 18:44
Thanks for the info. Really appreciated. It’d be great if you could pm me the details if you get chance. My dealer hasn’t got back to me from Thursday and I’ll orobably still go with the R. You given any idea of gfv?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 23 February 2019, 20:07
Thanks for the info. Really appreciated. It’d be great if you could pm me the details if you get chance. My dealer hasn’t got back to me from Thursday and I’ll orobably still go with the R. You given any idea of gfv?

Don't worry, won't forget, just dependent on others. I think the configurator and ordering systems took time to update - there are options available that weren't when I specified on Thursday.

No idea on GFV as I haven't had a quote yet, I'm not shopping for a deal as taking finance for me is about the £1,500 contribution/discount. Happy to share the figures but I'm just going to take whatever is convenient to get the discount and clear it immediately.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 23 February 2019, 20:47
Having gone through the process of configuring a TCR and having had a frustrating experience with the dealer's lack of knowledge and lack of information on the configurator, thought the following might be of help to anyone considering this car or negotiating with their dealer.  :smiley:

- Pure Grey is a charged option at £580 yet is free in Germany and isn't a unique colour, it's the first time it has been available on the Golf GTI. I believe it has been available on the Transporter since MY2016/2017.

- If you are considering Pretoria Alloys, like the Reifnitz, they come in a 'pack' with DCC, Vmax derestriction and sport version of the rear damping. The Pretorias also come with additional wheel locks with expanded anti-theft protection - I have asked for clarification as to what that means outside of a press release and it seems that it's just a design improvement on the wheel lock.

-I can't find out what tyres the Reifnitz wheels come with but the Pretoria alloys are shod in Michelin Pilot Cup Sport 2 - semi-slick tyres. The Reifnitz I believe are supplied with Continental Contisport Contact 5 tyres in Germany and would assume that would be the same for the UK. If it's a car designed for track as VW purport, it should have MPSC2 tyres, they're much better tyres.

- Pretoria Alloys are available for £995 (supplied with the car) on the R and through VW Accessories, they're £1100. To add DCC is £850 so that comes to £1845.00 (supplied new with the car) yet on the TCR, that's £2,750 and you can only get the Pretoria wheels in black, no option for silver. I appreciate that damping, Vmax and all that makes up the difference in price but those are just software options. If you don't like diamond cut alloys, they are the only options and it's a bit of a con because if anyone was serious about taking the car on track, you'd ruin the lacquer if you went into the kitty litter and it'd be four new alloys as they're never the same after being lathed and repaired. Germany of course has more choice so it's a local market restriction with the UK.

- If you spec the standard wheels and add DCC, you won't get the rear damping adjustment or Vmax derestriction and unlikely that this will be available as a dealer retrofit although I suspect you'll find a tuner who can address this. Both are software controlled parameters versus the damping having a different hardware setup.

- Exterior mirrors in carbon fibre - no pricing yet but dealer thought they would be £450 which is the same as the R. Again configuration / sales systems haven't been fully loaded with the car.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 23 February 2019, 20:50
Has it been removed from drive the deal or am I looking in the wrong place as I can’t see it.

That’s more discount than what I got on the gti pp quote I got so if you can share once you get your paperwork it would be appreciated.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 23 February 2019, 21:07
No idea on GFV as I haven't had a quote yet, I'm not shopping for a deal as taking finance for me is about the £1,500 contribution/discount. Happy to share the figures but I'm just going to take whatever is convenient to get the discount and clear it immediately.
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Just thought the gfv might indicate the residual value of the car. I’m not buying on finance, just taking the contribution like you. Be interesting to know as essentially the tcr is a trim level of gti if you know what I mean. It’s not a CS or CSS.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 23 February 2019, 22:09
No idea on GFV as I haven't had a quote yet, I'm not shopping for a deal as taking finance for me is about the £1,500 contribution/discount. Happy to share the figures but I'm just going to take whatever is convenient to get the discount and clear it immediately.

Just thought the gfv might indicate the residual value of the car. I’m not buying on finance, just taking the contribution like you. Be interesting to know as essentially the tcr is a trim level of gti if you know what I mean. It’s not a CS or CSS.
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It's going to be like a more up to date CS in terms of residuals I'd say. CSS is limited edition and unique components which makes it different. TCR is subject to a limited production window and is a bridge of sorts between CS and CSS - a trim level as you say.

I think the CSS and TCR will stand the test of time as halo cars in the 7/7.5 production series. The TCR will overshadow the CS IMHO and for all the slightly fraudulent lines VW are trying to draw to the race car, it will not in any way be a car that's hard to live with. I've owned those sorts of cars and gave up on the most extreme level of them because outside of a track day, they're expensive, hard work and stressful. I don't know if the track positioning will put buyers off and push them to an R or Performance Edition but if they do, it's not going to hurt residuals if they're scarce.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cardy on 24 February 2019, 19:48
The GFV on CSS is really low which pushes monthly payments up a lot will it be same with TCR I wonder finance companies don’t seem to recognise the special golfs
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 25 February 2019, 09:20
GFV is a best guess safety net for VWFS. They can't afford to be wrong and over value the car or they will lose money.

By making the figure lower the risk is sort of transferred to the buyer. I say sort of, because if the figure is low you obviously get some capital back, whereas the other way around, they lose money.

I'd say that they were unsure as to the future value of the CS (at 36/48 months) and low balled it to be on the right side of the money.

They obviously know that in 36/48 months it will be a Mk7 in a Mk8 world...
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 25 February 2019, 10:11

Chased the dealer, they can't honour the offer. Followed up with the second dealer and they're saying that there are some price changes in the spec and that if I would take the standard wheels, they'd make the price. Which isn't what I want so that's dead.

Spoke to Robin at DTD as they were close and they've had to pull the TCR as their dealer won't honour the offer either. Something about hitting quotas on models versus volume.

Back to my normal dealer to see what they can do.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 25 February 2019, 10:33
Wow, so the already marked up "special" TCR is going to be non-discounted...

You'd have to be nuts to pay that compared to a normal GTI PP or R
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 25 February 2019, 11:23

Chased the dealer, they can't honour the offer. Followed up with the second dealer and they're saying that there are some price changes in the spec and that if I would take the standard wheels, they'd make the price. Which isn't what I want so that's dead.

Spoke to Robin at DTD as they were close and they've had to pull the TCR as their dealer won't honour the offer either. Something about hitting quotas on models versus volume.

Back to my normal dealer to see what they can do.

Fingers crossed you can get a deal...

In the meantime, I've updated your signature for you.....  :grin:

(https://i.postimg.cc/v8pFWhdk/Screenshot-2019-02-25-at-11-11-53.png) (https://postimages.org/)


Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 25 February 2019, 13:24

Chased the dealer, they can't honour the offer. Followed up with the second dealer and they're saying that there are some price changes in the spec and that if I would take the standard wheels, they'd make the price. Which isn't what I want so that's dead.

Spoke to Robin at DTD as they were close and they've had to pull the TCR as their dealer won't honour the offer either. Something about hitting quotas on models versus volume.

Back to my normal dealer to see what they can do.

Fingers crossed you can get a deal...

In the meantime, I've updated your signature for you.....  :grin:

(https://i.postimg.cc/v8pFWhdk/Screenshot-2019-02-25-at-11-11-53.png) (https://postimages.org/)

 :grin: Very good but I would have gone with 'giving up hope on ever getting a TCR'.

New sales month starts on Friday and with Brexit, we'll see how bullish the dealers are in the close to quarter.  :whistle:




 

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 25 February 2019, 13:33
Wow, so the already marked up "special" TCR is going to be non-discounted...

You'd have to be nuts to pay that compared to a normal GTI PP or R

I've had a (confirmed in writing) offer for just over £4k from a VW dealer but when you consider that a PP is about £29.5k with a few options, you're still paying a premium of £4,699.72 for the TCR which I had at £38,250 with those same options.

I'd have been fine with the differential over the PP with a price that was in the £32k band but no more.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 25 February 2019, 17:32

Finally got there. Just over £32k for a TCR on a configurator spec of just over £38k.

Local group dealer to me, I understand there are limited sales targets on TCR models and I was their first order. The two other dealers within the group network were over £2k shy on the same deal but had orders booked already. Seems the trick is to find a dealer in a catchment where they're less likely to have demand for a TCR and negotiate from there. I shared a screenshot of the DTD offer from last week which I think provided some encouragement toward a price point.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 25 February 2019, 19:08
Well done! You worked hard for that.

Coast 2 coast are offering £5.3k off at the mo.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 25 February 2019, 20:19
Reminds me a bit of the Clubsport and Pirelli Editions.
Dealers told not to discount them and to keep them ‘special’ which just ended up with them selling bugger all new and VW UK telling dealers they had to stock them and pre-register them at the end of a production run...

Get an R instead. 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 25 February 2019, 20:20
Well done! You worked hard for that.

Coast 2 coast are offering £5.3k off at the mo.

Not that much hard work, made to feel hard by a couple of dealers who messed me around.

Funnily enough, it's actually not even going to be my car - it'll be my wife's daily driver. I'm a terrible influence.  :laugh:

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 25 February 2019, 20:25
Dealers messing people around? Never have I heard such nonsense.  :wink:

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 25 February 2019, 20:27
Reminds me a bit of the Clubsport and Pirelli Editions.
Dealers told not to discount them and to keep them ‘special’ which just ended up with them selling bugger all new and VW UK telling dealers they had to stock them and pre-register them at the end of a production run...

Get an R instead.

R really doesn't appeal.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 25 February 2019, 20:28
Dealers messing people around? Never have I heard such nonsense.  :wink:

I know, I was entirely unprepared for it. I didn't specify the service pack which may account for my experience.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 25 February 2019, 20:32
Dealers messing people around? Never have I heard such nonsense.  :wink:

I know, I was entirely unprepared for it. I didn't specify the service pack which may account for my experience.  :grin:

I’ve always had completely professional and knowledgeable experiences. Like the dealer who said he’d give my dad 3 years warranty with his Tiguan. He’d throw it in as a sweetener. Wow. Just wow.  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 25 February 2019, 20:58
I’ve always had completely professional and knowledgeable experiences. Like the dealer who said he’d give my dad 3 years warranty with his Tiguan. He’d throw it in as a sweetener. Wow. Just wow.  :laugh:

 :whistle: They're not all bad to be fair but what irritates me is that with a tiny amount of application, how I seem to know more about the vehicle than the person paid full time to know about the vehicle.

I've dealt with a few specialist brokers for certain cars over the years and the thing that sets them apart is service, product knowledge and passion. While the type of cars and prices are very different, attitude is everything and so many dealers fail at the fundamentals.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 25 February 2019, 22:04

Chased the dealer, they can't honour the offer. Followed up with the second dealer and they're saying that there are some price changes in the spec and that if I would take the standard wheels, they'd make the price. Which isn't what I want so that's dead.

Spoke to Robin at DTD as they were close and they've had to pull the TCR as their dealer won't honour the offer either. Something about hitting quotas on models versus volume.

Back to my normal dealer to see what they can do.

Fingers crossed you can get a deal...

In the meantime, I've updated your signature for you.....  :grin:

(https://i.postimg.cc/v8pFWhdk/Screenshot-2019-02-25-at-11-11-53.png) (https://postimages.org/)

 :grin: Very good but I would have gone with 'giving up hope on ever getting a TCR'.

New sales month starts on Friday and with Brexit, we'll see how bullish the dealers are in the close to quarter.  :whistle:

Thanks! Sounds like you’re sorted now...  :smiley:

All you need now is to get your GT4 fitted with a new gearbox... heard they are doing a recall of all 2016 models  :shocked:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 26 February 2019, 00:41

Thanks! Sounds like you’re sorted now...  :smiley:

All you need now is to get your GT4 fitted with a new gearbox... heard they are doing a recall of all 2016 models  :shocked:

Indeed, I'll modify my signature on the TCR for you in just a moment.  :grin:

Yes, my GT4 is in for a new transmission shortly, got a call early February from my dealer. Mid production, Getrag who supplied the gearboxes shifted to fusion welding vs a splined gear and third has been giving out. I've known about it for quite a while and there has been almost as much speculation as to what Porsche were going to do about it as there has been about the engine in the 718 GT4!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mkviken on 26 February 2019, 03:36
worth sticking a shorter final drive in while they have it in bits!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 26 February 2019, 09:05
:whistle: They're not all bad to be fair but what irritates me is that with a tiny amount of application, how I seem to know more about the vehicle than the person paid full time to know about the vehicle.

And its hardly a massive encyclopaedic knowledge you need to obtain either.

I remember a salesman telling me some functionality BS about an option which I had to correct him on.

Fair enough I don't expect a salesman to pick up mechanical detail but being able to tell me the difference between the options just to the level of the sales brochure would be probably good enough. Most of the tech is common across all of the VW range too...

On the other hand, the gentleman I bought my current GTD from was absolutely superb and really was on the ball and helpful. However I know that he's been at that dealership for decades though - whereas the guys in my local dealership seem to change every time I walk in the door - not one person the same, receptionists, service staff, salesmen, all new faces every time...

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 26 February 2019, 10:15
worth sticking a shorter final drive in while they have it in bits!

Like your thinking but main dealer putting anything in other than official Porsche parts? I think the service manager would break out in a cold sweat at the suggestion!  :laugh:

I've already put GT3 control arms in with KW 3 way and was waiting for my warranty to run out in June before putting GT gears in which will change 3-5, 1 and 2 are connected to the drive shaft and 6 is fine as it is for overdrive. Should hopefully get the 718 GT4 and will see what that offers before making the decision, it's not as much of an issue as made out by journalists though.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 26 February 2019, 10:59
:whistle: They're not all bad to be fair but what irritates me is that with a tiny amount of application, how I seem to know more about the vehicle than the person paid full time to know about the vehicle.

And its hardly a massive encyclopaedic knowledge you need to obtain either.

I remember a salesman telling me some functionality BS about an option which I had to correct him on.

Fair enough I don't expect a salesman to pick up mechanical detail but being able to tell me the difference between the options just to the level of the sales brochure would be probably good enough. Most of the tech is common across all of the VW range too...

On the other hand, the gentleman I bought my current GTD from was absolutely superb and really was on the ball and helpful. However I know that he's been at that dealership for decades though - whereas the guys in my local dealership seem to change every time I walk in the door - not one person the same, receptionists, service staff, salesmen, all new faces every time...

I recently bought a brand new car for the first time. My experience is limited to 4 or 5 vw dealerships, but i was surprised at how little the sales staff knew about the product they were selling, and more surprised at how little they seemed to care.
I was told by one dealer you could no longer get a manual box on a gti.
Another said I should “ take it as gospel “ if a main dealer had said the manual is no longer available.
I quickly realised how pointless it was asking even basic questions- a quick internet search was usually more productive
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 26 February 2019, 11:11
:whistle: They're not all bad to be fair but what irritates me is that with a tiny amount of application, how I seem to know more about the vehicle than the person paid full time to know about the vehicle.

And its hardly a massive encyclopaedic knowledge you need to obtain either.

I remember a salesman telling me some functionality BS about an option which I had to correct him on.

Fair enough I don't expect a salesman to pick up mechanical detail but being able to tell me the difference between the options just to the level of the sales brochure would be probably good enough. Most of the tech is common across all of the VW range too...

On the other hand, the gentleman I bought my current GTD from was absolutely superb and really was on the ball and helpful. However I know that he's been at that dealership for decades though - whereas the guys in my local dealership seem to change every time I walk in the door - not one person the same, receptionists, service staff, salesmen, all new faces every time...

I agree. There are so many shared components between the vehicles that base knowledge of the marque must cover 80% of what you need to know on a daily basis.

I was talking to the receptionist at my local dealer while I waited for the sales person - young lad and clearly an enthusiast as he saw me pull in and he'd never seen my model and was asking me questions about it. I asked him what he thought of the TCR (bearing in mind it was Thursday, the day of the official release) and he gave me a very informed treatise as to why he'd have one over an R. My salesman turned up and his level of knowledge equated to reading the press release to me. I kid you not.

Experience tells you how the business works and how to manage customer expectations interfacing with VW but product knowledge is easily obtained. The TCR (keeping this thread on topic) was weeks in advance of the car going on sale. You just have to watch Autogefühl as a primer.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 02 March 2019, 11:10
Gfv on the TCR is £13.3k. Quite surprised. That’s not a lot more than a performance gti.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 02 March 2019, 13:26
A dealer has contacted me today offering £4.5k off the tcr. It’s really odd. Some dealers aren’t even giving the £1500 contribution and others giving loads off. Seems like they don’t have clear info from Vw concerning the finances of the car.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 02 March 2019, 16:11
A dealer has contacted me today offering £4.5k off the tcr. It’s really odd. Some dealers aren’t even giving the £1500 contribution and others giving loads off. Seems like they don’t have clear info from Vw concerning the finances of the car.

Is that pre VAT discount before the £1500 finance ?

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 02 March 2019, 17:28
A dealer has contacted me today offering £4.5k off the tcr. It’s really odd. Some dealers aren’t even giving the £1500 contribution and others giving loads off. Seems like they don’t have clear info from Vw concerning the finances of the car.

Is that pre VAT discount before the £1500 finance ?

Including the finance contribution. I’m sticking with the R. I couldn’t buy a car that I can’t test drive.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: david25 on 02 March 2019, 17:49
TCR reviewed in April Evo, overall positive 4/5

However, MK5 GTI and Clubsport S get 5/5
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 02 March 2019, 18:43
Is ride quality mentioned?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 02 March 2019, 20:56
Is ride quality mentioned?

“ Firm ride. No, not firm.. taut”
Followed by some absolute gobbledygook about an underlying resistance to unwanted movements blah blah.
Now I know why I stopped reading this bloody rubbish.
The gist of the piece is it’s a good car but could’ve been better
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 03 March 2019, 13:04
A company called 21st century motors are saying they will have the TCR to lease for £320pm. Someone’s tweeted the info to me so I don’t know anything else.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 03 March 2019, 13:16
A company called 21st century motors are saying they will have the TCR to lease for £320pm. Someone’s tweeted the info to me so I don’t know anything else.
For that cost it'll be + VAT, a 9+ or 12+ profile, and over 3 or 4 years.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 03 March 2019, 13:43
A company called 21st century motors are saying they will have the TCR to lease for £320pm. Someone’s tweeted the info to me so I don’t know anything else.
For that cost it'll be + VAT, a 9+ or 12+ profile, and over 3 or 4 years.

The tweet says inc VAT and no deposit but I’d be surprised to say the least. What does that say for residuals?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 03 March 2019, 21:26


Here’s a question we’ve not asked or answered yet.

I was all set on a 3dr golf. However as I’ve still not ordered yet due to not working out if it’s really the ‘one’ to have over a GTI PP

But looking at a lot of video reviews over the weekend I think if I’m going to order one it will be 5dr.

What’s everyone opinion ? 3dr or 5dr ?


The race car is actually made from a 5dr shell.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 03 March 2019, 21:31
I like a 3 door but what does other peoples opinions on this matter? Surely it's just personal preference?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 03 March 2019, 21:34
Oh dear ... my OCD has kicked in.

Although a £550 option I was going to go with the side decals. However they are the wrong way, stay with me ...

If the car is driving forward the darker hex’s should be at the front with the lighter going to the rear ?? The TCR has sided decals so both sides match but the decals are the wrong way around.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 03 March 2019, 21:36
(https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/media/14659510/vw-golf-tcr-side-carvoeiro_630x420.jpg)
 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 04 March 2019, 09:42
The decals are awful so wouldn't matter which round there are!  :grin:

And a £550 option, absolutely hilarious pricing by VW. Some dotted stickers same price as paint for the whole car?  :rolleyes:

The only real thing I like about the TCR is the interior, especially the door cards.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mike roberts on 04 March 2019, 14:01
At least they’d match the discs venting being odd too.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 04 March 2019, 14:43
Oh dear ... my OCD has kicked in.

Although a £550 option I was going to go with the side decals. However they are the wrong way, stay with me ...

If the car is driving forward the darker hex’s should be at the front with the lighter going to the rear ?? The TCR has sided decals so both sides match but the decals are the wrong way around.

You are indeed right... They have created a decal the wrong way round from the TCR race car...  :rolleyes:

(https://i.postimg.cc/pT4LZ6RT/Screenshot-2019-03-04-at-14-15-02.png) (https://postimg.cc/34jhr9y5)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 04 March 2019, 18:39
Hi guys,

I’m not going for the TCR but gave a cracking deal if anyone’s interested. Joe Knight @jmkdeals offered me £6k off the TCR. Great offer and seems a really good bloke. He works for TL Darby dealership in burton on Trent I believe. Andrew Chapple/Volkswizard put him on to me so massive thanks to him too.

Happy hunting everyone!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 04 March 2019, 21:14
It’s back on drive the deal ..... sales must be slow.

That £6000 is that pre vat off the basic price and options ?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 04 March 2019, 22:14
It’s off a car with options.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 04 March 2019, 22:16
Was quoted 5 month wait. Too long for me really.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 05 March 2019, 11:10
That £6000 is that pre vat off the basic price and options ?
Your username is very apt! :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 06 March 2019, 19:23


Well I’ve ordered a Golf GTI today. I just couldn’t see the value in a TCR even at DTD prices.
Car is on its way to the UK. Should have it by the end of the month.




Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 06 March 2019, 19:32
Think a gti represents great value at the moment. A fantastic option.

It’ll be interesting to see how the TCR holds its value.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 06 March 2019, 20:46
It’s back on drive the deal ..... sales must be slow.

That £6000 is that pre vat off the basic price and options ?

It's March. New sales month. It's the same pricing I had from DTD last month when they just had a dealer pull their offer.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Wish on 06 March 2019, 20:48
I sold my 18 plate GTI PP with 1600 miles on the clock back in September when TCR became a little more real.  The dealer still have it for sale .

However when it came to the crunch it just didn’t stack up for me.

My guess will be a very slow selling car, with great incentive in quarter 2/3 where they will be discounted heavily. Few and far between, but could mean a steady risidual on the second hand market down the line.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 06 March 2019, 21:01
Think a gti represents great value at the moment. A fantastic option.

It’ll be interesting to see how the TCR holds its value.

They are incredibly good value at the moment and when the TCR offer we had from DTD fell through, we considered swapping to a GTI PP as the numbers made sense. My father in law has just ordered a Golf GTI PP and was about to do a factory order but the dealer offered a stock spec demonstrator that was en route. He got a trade in of £13,500 on a 4 year old 32k mile MKVII GTI and the new car was £26k.

I think TCRs are going to be quite rare - I think as a value proposition, they don't add up against the offers available on a GTI PP and the general feeling seems to be that they're going to be too track focused read harsh for UK roads based on initial reviews. Several people I know who were interested in them decided to go for a GTI PP instead when it came to placing an order.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 06 March 2019, 21:07
I sold my 18 plate GTI PP with 1600 miles on the clock back in September when TCR became a little more real.  The dealer still have it for sale .

However when it came to the crunch it just didn’t stack up for me.

My guess will be a very slow selling car, with great incentive in quarter 2/3 where they will be discounted heavily. Few and far between, but could mean a steady risidual on the second hand market down the line.

As I understand it, VW sets model targets across the dealer network. The nature of this car means that it'll be a niche audience so the target won't be that high per dealer which is why the DTD offer I had was pulled by the offering dealer in February. Based on this, I don't think dealers will do much to stimulate demand contributing to 'slow sales'.

I think what happens with Brexit will also have a bearing on residuals, particularly if tariffs drive increased pricing on imports.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 07 March 2019, 07:20
The lease deal mentioned earlier is now live.

14 week delivery.

For those that don't know, with a lease you can add options but you pay the full price for it which is spread over the term e.g. DCC (£850) would add £23.61 to the monthly cost over a 3yr term.

https://specials.21stcenturymotors.co.uk/GTI290

(https://i.postimg.cc/zfCkXvys/1-E10-E47-D-02-BF-4-E1-B-9116-DD70669-AF1-E2.png) (https://postimg.cc/CZK8cFH7)

So if you want a basic car, this is a good deal, but add options and you're probably better off going PCP.

:)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 07 March 2019, 18:00
It’s not the £320pm that they’d stated initially with no deposit. Deals like this confirm my thoughts that the TCR is a trim of gti rather than a special edition.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 07 March 2019, 19:21
It’s not the £320pm that they’d stated initially with no deposit. Deals like this confirm my thoughts that the TCR is a trim of gti rather than a special edition.

The only special GTI in MKVII is the Clubsport S, everything else is stock with calibration variations and parts bin swaps.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 07 March 2019, 19:41
It’s not the £320pm that they’d stated initially with no deposit. Deals like this confirm my thoughts that the TCR is a trim of gti rather than a special edition.

The only special GTI in MKVII is the Clubsport S, everything else is stock with calibration variations and parts bin swaps.

I meant like a special/anniversary edition. Don’t remember the CS, ed35 etc being available on a lease. Maybe it’s just that the market is changing.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 08 March 2019, 09:22
Im waiting for one to get to the dealers to take a look at and hopefully drive before I decide what to change my BMW m135i for but this , the GTI and the R are still options for me.

No doubt there's a mark up on the price for the TCR, but probably not as bad as it seems in some cases.  Is it just over £2k for the DSG models?

I really like the wheels and the interior on the TCR and dislike the standard kit on the GTI PP, so would easily eat in to that 2k.  Plus a decent increase in power, brakes and a few spoilers etc, for some it won't be too bad a jump and easy to justify.

Horses for courses I think, if you really like the standard wheels and interior on the GTI I guess this looks more overpriced. 

From what I can see the GTI, TCR and R are all getting the same discount (on CarWow at least), so no added benefit to them here.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 08 March 2019, 09:31
Interior does look great on the TCR and and is a nice step up from the tartan cloth, especially door cards and arm rests etc.

Brakes? Realistically, I don't think you would notice any difference on the road. Power - yes! Extra spoilers - looks pretty good. So £2k more is probably worth it as if you added Art Velour and remap you'd be at about £1.2k extra and you're getting the lightweight wheels for basically £800 which is a bargain.

The harder ride might not suit the average GTI driver though. Pays your money and takes your choice as the saying goes.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 08 March 2019, 15:13


Here’s a question we’ve not asked or answered yet.

I was all set on a 3dr golf. However as I’ve still not ordered yet due to not working out if it’s really the ‘one’ to have over a GTI PP

But looking at a lot of video reviews over the weekend I think if I’m going to order one it will be 5dr.

What’s everyone opinion ? 3dr or 5dr ?


The race car is actually made from a 5dr shell.

Think its quite accepted that the MK 7 Golf does as good as job as any car out there in keeping its hatchback lines in the 5 door form - having barely coped for 6 years with 3 doors on A3 Quattro, with all the inconvenience the then incoming MK 7 convinced me to change to 5 doors as felt not giving up the lines I like to much (A3 sportback is best example of losing lines to have 5 doors) - And now into my second MK 7 on a 66 plate R thats not changed, and such as nothing has in my opinion come along in last 5 years that steps over the R 100% be ordering another very soon, in 5 door - its usually very subjective and preference driven but in this case feel just looking at the 5 door supports how holds its looks really well + the huge convenience lift of smaller doors (parking) and not having the passenger get out, pull back seat to let rear passenger in and out, which if regular carrier of passengers as I am is a huge change for the better - also as someone who coaches youth football, throwing bag of balls on back seat is another bonus
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 09 March 2019, 07:05
It’s not the £320pm that they’d stated initially with no deposit. Deals like this confirm my thoughts that the TCR is a trim of gti rather than a special edition.

The only special GTI in MKVII is the Clubsport S, everything else is stock with calibration variations and parts bin swaps.

I meant like a special/anniversary edition. Don’t remember the CS, ed35 etc being available on a lease. Maybe it’s just that the market is changing.

I'm with you.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 09 March 2019, 08:18
Seen a few real world TCR videos this morning on YouTube. Seems that they’re arriving at dealers in Europe. Got to say that the pure grey tcr looks amazing.

https://youtu.be/af-8nymjl6g
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 09 March 2019, 08:42
Im waiting for one to get to the dealers to take a look at and hopefully drive before I decide what to change my BMW m135i for but this , the GTI and the R are still options for me.

No doubt there's a mark up on the price for the TCR, but probably not as bad as it seems in some cases.  Is it just over £2k for the DSG models?

I really like the wheels and the interior on the TCR and dislike the standard kit on the GTI PP, so would easily eat in to that 2k.  Plus a decent increase in power, brakes and a few spoilers etc, for some it won't be too bad a jump and easy to justify.

Horses for courses I think, if you really like the standard wheels and interior on the GTI I guess this looks more overpriced. 

From what I can see the GTI, TCR and R are all getting the same discount (on CarWow at least), so no added benefit to them here.

VW have had to create some head room above the GTI PP with the TCR as the flagship GTI so I wouldn't call it mark up, they have tried to create some differentiation with the extent of the package they've created. The question is of course, does that package appeal for the price difference.

Much like you, I wasn't enamoured with the Jacara interior so would have specified Art Velours and with some other options at MSRP, it's around £2.5k but I'm not getting exactly what I want. The only compromise I had with the TCR was the interior where I would have preferred Art Velours but don't mind the treatment they've applied, just would have preferred something a little more restrained but I'm sure I'll like it when I see it.

Not sure I get the comparison between a GTI PP / TCR and R outside of purchase price. The extra traction and acceleration that AWD brings with it gives you a better 0-60 but there is a weight penalty and I have driven a 7.5 R back to back with my Clubsport S and I would take the Clubsport S every single time. Straight line speed versus handling doesn't translate - the CSS feels quicker than it is and while I don't doubt the performance of the R, it feels heavier when thrown around.

I know that the track positioning of the TCR puts some people off for fear that the ride won't be compliant but this isn't an uncompromising RS special from Porsche, it's a mass produced car with a tune and some parts bin add ons. VW is a brand that gets chassis dynamics. I never have the Clubsport S out of 'Comfort' because it's just so good on the UK's awful roads. The moment I put it into race on anything but a mirror like surface, it's crashy and unbearable on most surfaces. I have driven it on excellent quality roads and it's excellent but 95% of the time, it would be too harsh and I couldn't live with it. I expect they will bring the same mindset to the TCR with a comfort mode to increase the appeal.
 

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 09 March 2019, 08:50
Seen a few real world TCR videos this morning on YouTube. Seems that they’re arriving at dealers in Europe. Got to say that the pure grey tcr looks amazing.

https://youtu.be/af-8nymjl6g

It does look awesome. The cockerel in the background adds a certain je ne sais quoi to the video.  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 09 March 2019, 08:57
Im waiting for one to get to the dealers to take a look at and hopefully drive before I decide what to change my BMW m135i for but this , the GTI and the R are still options for me.

No doubt there's a mark up on the price for the TCR, but probably not as bad as it seems in some cases.  Is it just over £2k for the DSG models?

I really like the wheels and the interior on the TCR and dislike the standard kit on the GTI PP, so would easily eat in to that 2k.  Plus a decent increase in power, brakes and a few spoilers etc, for some it won't be too bad a jump and easy to justify.

Horses for courses I think, if you really like the standard wheels and interior on the GTI I guess this looks more overpriced. 

From what I can see the GTI, TCR and R are all getting the same discount (on CarWow at least), so no added benefit to them here.

VW have had to create some head room above the GTI PP with the TCR as the flagship GTI so I wouldn't call it mark up, they have tried to create some differentiation with the extent of the package they've created. The question is of course, does that package appeal for the price difference.

Much like you, I wasn't enamoured with the Jacara interior so would have specified Art Velours and with some other options at MSRP, it's around £2.5k but I'm not getting exactly what I want. The only compromise I had with the TCR was the interior where I would have preferred Art Velours but don't mind the treatment they've applied, just would have preferred something a little more restrained but I'm sure I'll like it when I see it.

Not sure I get the comparison between a GTI PP / TCR and R outside of purchase price. The extra traction and acceleration that AWD brings with it gives you a better 0-60 but there is a weight penalty and I have driven a 7.5 R back to back with my Clubsport S and I would take the Clubsport S every single time. Straight line speed versus handling doesn't translate - the CSS feels quicker than it is and while I don't doubt the performance of the R, it feels heavier when thrown around.

I know that the track positioning of the TCR puts some people off for fear that the ride won't be compliant but this isn't an uncompromising RS special from Porsche, it's a mass produced car with a tune and some parts bin add ons. VW is a brand that gets chassis dynamics. I never have the Clubsport S out of 'Comfort' because it's just so good on the UK's awful roads. The moment I put it into race on anything but a mirror like surface, it's crashy and unbearable on most surfaces. I have driven it on excellent quality roads and it's excellent but 95% of the time, it would be too harsh and I couldn't live with it. I expect they will bring the same mindset to the TCR with a comfort mode to increase the appeal.

Some good points here. Interesting thoughts on the CSS ride. Believe it was in comfort setting when it set the ring record. From the videos I saw this morning the interior looks a bit more garish than I though it would but would I have one if I could get one quickly? Yes. Going to be a great car. I still think about changing my order as my R has been delayed again.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TurboTrev on 09 March 2019, 09:33
As I said earlier in the thread, I would definitely take a TCR over an R all day long for the same reasons I sold my 7R to get my CS.  All wheel drive is not the most important thing for me.  I prefer the rareness and exclusivity of a special edition.  The TCR does look really good now we're seeing real life ones - it's just a same it doesn't have buckets.  The suspension, I'm pretty sure, should be okay, but I wouldn't buy one without DCC.  The CS has different suspension to a normal GTI and mine is fine with 19" wheels and DCC set to comfort.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 09 March 2019, 12:19
Different springs or different dampers because as far as I can tell all golf variants use the same damper for DCC which is made by Monroe.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 09 March 2019, 16:08
Im waiting for one to get to the dealers to take a look at and hopefully drive before I decide what to change my BMW m135i for but this , the GTI and the R are still options for me.

No doubt there's a mark up on the price for the TCR, but probably not as bad as it seems in some cases.  Is it just over £2k for the DSG models?

I really like the wheels and the interior on the TCR and dislike the standard kit on the GTI PP, so would easily eat in to that 2k.  Plus a decent increase in power, brakes and a few spoilers etc, for some it won't be too bad a jump and easy to justify.

Horses for courses I think, if you really like the standard wheels and interior on the GTI I guess this looks more overpriced. 

From what I can see the GTI, TCR and R are all getting the same discount (on CarWow at least), so no added benefit to them here.

VW have had to create some head room above the GTI PP with the TCR as the flagship GTI so I wouldn't call it mark up, they have tried to create some differentiation with the extent of the package they've created. The question is of course, does that package appeal for the price difference.

Much like you, I wasn't enamoured with the Jacara interior so would have specified Art Velours and with some other options at MSRP, it's around £2.5k but I'm not getting exactly what I want. The only compromise I had with the TCR was the interior where I would have preferred Art Velours but don't mind the treatment they've applied, just would have preferred something a little more restrained but I'm sure I'll like it when I see it.

Not sure I get the comparison between a GTI PP / TCR and R outside of purchase price. The extra traction and acceleration that AWD brings with it gives you a better 0-60 but there is a weight penalty and I have driven a 7.5 R back to back with my Clubsport S and I would take the Clubsport S every single time. Straight line speed versus handling doesn't translate - the CSS feels quicker than it is and while I don't doubt the performance of the R, it feels heavier when thrown around.


Yep,comparison was just on base purchase price, nothing more. I quite like the idea of moving to one of them next but need to test drive for the reasons you go on to mention.

I just got the impression it was not seen as good value by most people on here compared to the PP, but I didn’t think it was bad when you brake it down. I think it just depends on if the PP fits in base spec v the TCR in base.  For me it doesn’t, mainly down to wheels and interior trim, but that’s just me and no doubt others feel differently.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 10 March 2019, 08:03
Im waiting for one to get to the dealers to take a look at and hopefully drive before I decide what to change my BMW m135i for but this , the GTI and the R are still options for me.

No doubt there's a mark up on the price for the TCR, but probably not as bad as it seems in some cases.  Is it just over £2k for the DSG models?

I really like the wheels and the interior on the TCR and dislike the standard kit on the GTI PP, so would easily eat in to that 2k.  Plus a decent increase in power, brakes and a few spoilers etc, for some it won't be too bad a jump and easy to justify.

Horses for courses I think, if you really like the standard wheels and interior on the GTI I guess this looks more overpriced. 

From what I can see the GTI, TCR and R are all getting the same discount (on CarWow at least), so no added benefit to them here.

VW have had to create some head room above the GTI PP with the TCR as the flagship GTI so I wouldn't call it mark up, they have tried to create some differentiation with the extent of the package they've created. The question is of course, does that package appeal for the price difference.

Much like you, I wasn't enamoured with the Jacara interior so would have specified Art Velours and with some other options at MSRP, it's around £2.5k but I'm not getting exactly what I want. The only compromise I had with the TCR was the interior where I would have preferred Art Velours but don't mind the treatment they've applied, just would have preferred something a little more restrained but I'm sure I'll like it when I see it.

Not sure I get the comparison between a GTI PP / TCR and R outside of purchase price. The extra traction and acceleration that AWD brings with it gives you a better 0-60 but there is a weight penalty and I have driven a 7.5 R back to back with my Clubsport S and I would take the Clubsport S every single time. Straight line speed versus handling doesn't translate - the CSS feels quicker than it is and while I don't doubt the performance of the R, it feels heavier when thrown around.

I know that the track positioning of the TCR puts some people off for fear that the ride won't be compliant but this isn't an uncompromising RS special from Porsche, it's a mass produced car with a tune and some parts bin add ons. VW is a brand that gets chassis dynamics. I never have the Clubsport S out of 'Comfort' because it's just so good on the UK's awful roads. The moment I put it into race on anything but a mirror like surface, it's crashy and unbearable on most surfaces. I have driven it on excellent quality roads and it's excellent but 95% of the time, it would be too harsh and I couldn't live with it. I expect they will bring the same mindset to the TCR with a comfort mode to increase the appeal.

Some good points here. Interesting thoughts on the CSS ride. Believe it was in comfort setting when it set the ring record. From the videos I saw this morning the interior looks a bit more garish than I though it would but would I have one if I could get one quickly? Yes. Going to be a great car. I still think about changing my order as my R has been delayed again.

The ring record was set in 'Individual' which is basically everything set to race with the exception of the dampers which are in 'Comfort'. VW were not messing about when they went for the record and I recall that they put a cage into the car and having been on the 'ring and seen how Benny Leuchter took that CSS round, it was an utterly fearless lap. I saw him interviewed and got the impression that he had to really fight the car to get that time.

Funnily enough, I didn't really gel with the CSS in the first week I had it, the pedal weights and throw of the clutch took a little adjustment being such a contrast to my other car but pliancy or handling was never in question. I don't see myself ever parting with it and I don't think we'll see another car like it from VW.

I'm really looking forward to comparing the TCR to the CSS. Particularly interesting to see how they feel from a dynamic point of view and the power to weight ratio difference on the road.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 10 March 2019, 12:57
I don't think we'll see another car like it from VW.

I'm really looking forward to comparing the TCR to the CSS. Particularly interesting to see how they feel from a dynamic point of view and the power to weight ratio difference on the road.

I definitely think you’re right about there never being another car like the CSS from VW.

I’m really looking forward to hearing your thoughts once you’ve driven both back to back after familiarising yourself with the TCR.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 10 March 2019, 13:02
I don't think we'll see another car like it from VW.

I'm really looking forward to comparing the TCR to the CSS. Particularly interesting to see how they feel from a dynamic point of view and the power to weight ratio difference on the road.

I definitely think you’re right about there never being another car like the CSS from VW.

I’m really looking forward to hearing your thoughts once you’ve driven both back to back after familiarising yourself with the TCR.

I’ll second that. Having experience of both cars will give a really interesting perspective.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Clubsport S on 10 March 2019, 13:24

The ring record was set in 'Individual' which is basically everything set to race with the exception of the dampers which are in 'Comfort'. VW were not messing about when they went for the record and I recall that they put a cage into the car and having been on the 'ring and seen how Benny Leuchter took that CSS round, it was an utterly fearless lap. I saw him interviewed and got the impression that he had to really fight the car to get that time.

Funnily enough, I didn't really gel with the CSS in the first week I had it, the pedal weights and throw of the clutch took a little adjustment being such a contrast to my other car but pliancy or handling was never in question. I don't see myself ever parting with it and I don't think we'll see another car like it from VW.

I'm really looking forward to comparing the TCR to the CSS. Particularly interesting to see how they feel from a dynamic point of view and the power to weight ratio difference on the road.

Interesting comparison with the CSS, will the TCR be a daily ?

I’ve currently got an S3 as a daily, but do like the idea of the TCR.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TCR on 10 March 2019, 15:22
Has anyone else on here ordered one yet? I ordered mine last Monday :) what options did anyone go for? Also what deals did you get ?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 10 March 2019, 16:33
I don't think we'll see another car like it from VW.

I'm really looking forward to comparing the TCR to the CSS. Particularly interesting to see how they feel from a dynamic point of view and the power to weight ratio difference on the road.

I definitely think you’re right about there never being another car like the CSS from VW.

I’m really looking forward to hearing your thoughts once you’ve driven both back to back after familiarising yourself with the TCR.

I’ll second that. Having experience of both cars will give a really interesting perspective.

Well, I can provide a full back to back review on a 7 CSS, 7.5 TCR and 7.5 GTI PP (manual) if anyone is interested. Thinking about it, they'll look quite good in a group shot - the CSS is White, TCR is Pure Grey and GTI PP is Black. GTI PP is my father in law's car but I'm sure if I give him a go in the CSS, he'll reciprocate.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 10 March 2019, 16:54
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Interesting comparison with the CSS, will the TCR be a daily ?

I’ve currently got an S3 as a daily, but do like the idea of the TCR.

The CSS and TCR are both dailies as it happens. His and hers - my wife will have the TCR as she isn't a fan of a manual.

Frustration with the CSS as a daily is the lack of cruise control - basic or adaptive plus parking sensors. I go in and out of Cambridge regularly and there are perma road works with average speed controls for miles and miles - it's wearing watching your speedo like a hawk. Parking sensors are useful at night - I live in the countryside and you don't really realise how dark it gets without urban light pollution (used to be in London where you never saw a black sky). There have been a couple of occasions where I miss having the sensors, the tiny reverse light is next to useless without a decent degree of ambient light. So in short, looking forward to some of the conveniences that come with the car beyond the actual quality of the drive itself.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 10 March 2019, 17:10
Has anyone else on here ordered one yet? I ordered mine last Monday :) what options did anyone go for? Also what deals did you get ?

I was starting to think I was a club of one!  :laugh: Ordered a few days after they were officially announced, lots of horse trading with the dealers on price which is earlier in this thread.

Went for Pure Grey with DCC Reifnitz wheel package, 90% rear tints, climate windscreen, lane assist plus with dynamic light assist.

What did you go for and have you got a build week yet?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TCR on 10 March 2019, 17:30
Hopefully this forum is big enough for the both of us ;) do you mind me asking what sort of figures you got down to? PM me if you wish.

Went for;

Pure Grey
19” Pretoria’s with DDC and all the other bits it comes with.
Dynaudio
Carbon Mirrors
Extra rear tinted windows.

I see a bit at the top of the order for due around 28th June. (Didn’t say what year though  :grin: :grin:)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 10 March 2019, 19:50
Hopefully this forum is big enough for the both of us ;) do you mind me asking what sort of figures you got down to? PM me if you wish.

Went for;

Pure Grey
19” Pretoria’s with DDC and all the other bits it comes with.
Dynaudio
Carbon Mirrors
Extra rear tinted windows.

I see a bit at the top of the order for due around 28th June. (Didn’t say what year though  :grin: :grin:)

Haha, no issues with it being a two TCR town! We can talk up the values in a separate thread.  :grin:

I don't have the exact figure to hand but I was a few hundred short of £6k off the list price. I think someone posted a deal up recently which was slightly better than what I got which had me thinking I should have pushed my dealer harder but he wouldn't even throw in rubber mats. £1,500 of that is a VWFS contribution - it's a pain in the backside because I'm just going to pay it off the day I pick up the car but we still have to go through this process.

Almost the same spec. I had a debate about the mirrors but reasoned that I'd get them wrapped if I didn't like them in the flesh. The Pretorias are a great wheel, have them on the CSS and would have preferred 18" wheels but the package value worked out better but I hate diamond cut wheels.

My order form estimated delivery date is 7/June although the My Volkswagen app which appears to be the app version of a Magic Eightball, still shows me not having a build week so who knows.

As you didn't spec the side decals, do you know if you still get the little TCR logo in front of the back wheel arch? I saw a collection video posted in this thread on Saturday which showed the car without the large door decal and a small TCR logo.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TCR on 10 March 2019, 21:05
Just looked for an option to send you a private message but couldn’t see anything? I put £5k down, dealer contribution £1500 I think + £1250 discount.. with all the options £449 a month, over 4 years, 10,000 miles a year.
The Mirrors wasn’t that expencive about £90 I think?!
I agree, I hate the effect large wheels have on a small car tram lining ect I would of preferred 18’s but wasn’t keen on any of the styles of wheel. I haven’t got my order number through yet, I will give them a shake up tomorrow. As for the decal I wondered this myself as I like the little one down the bottom but wasn’t keen on the side of the car covered in a sticker.

Alex
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 11 March 2019, 06:51
Just looked for an option to send you a private message but couldn’t see anything? I put £5k down, dealer contribution £1500 I think + £1250 discount.. with all the options £449 a month, over 4 years, 10,000 miles a year.
The Mirrors wasn’t that expencive about £90 I think?!
I agree, I hate the effect large wheels have on a small car tram lining ect I would of preferred 18’s but wasn’t keen on any of the styles of wheel. I haven’t got my order number through yet, I will give them a shake up tomorrow. As for the decal I wondered this myself as I like the little one down the bottom but wasn’t keen on the side of the car covered in a sticker.

Alex

You should be able to send me a DM, on the main navigation where it says Home, Help etc. There is a 'My Messages' option, 'Send a message' is a sub menu item there.

The carbon fibre mirrors are £450 if I recall. I checked the configurator and it's the only item that doesn't have price information for the TCR but I checked my sanity by looking at the R and it shows as £450.

The main reason I didn't check them is that they don't tie in with carbon fibre on any other part of the car - if  there was a dash trim insert in carbon fibre and you had a visual line across the middle and sides of the car, then it would make sense to me. I've read comment that the matt finish looks a bit cheap but if it ties with the plastics on the lower intakes, it should look fine. If not, I will change the mirror caps - they're £20-£30 a pair for gloss back replacements.

I've just dropped a note to my salesman about the side decal to clarify. I suspect the answer is yes, especially if they've gone to the trouble of using a gobo to put the TCR logo on the puddle lights.

Struck me as odd that they don't do the steering wheel in alcantara given the race car connection. My CSS has it but it's glued versus being stitched so the join either side of the twelve o'clock marker looks a bit Halfords. I've asked the dealer if this is something that the factory would oblige as well.

Will let you know what dealer says. Also an Alex BTW. The similarities continue.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 11 March 2019, 07:11
Just looked for an option to send you a private message but couldn’t see anything?

You should be able to send me a DM, on the main navigation where it says Home, Help etc. There is a 'My Messages' option, 'Send a message' is a sub menu item there.

I think you need a minimum post count of 10 before you can send a PM to another forum member. TCR’s a new forum member and hasn’t posted 10 times yet. .
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 11 March 2019, 08:55
The small TCR logo seems to be there on the configurator without the decals spec'd so it would make sense that its standard.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 11 March 2019, 09:06
I put £5k down, dealer contribution £1500 I think + £1250 discount.. with all the options £449 a month, over 4 years, 10,000 miles a year.
Hi, and welcome. That's not a great deal TBH. TCR 'cash' discount is currently at around £3000-4500, plus there's the £1500 on top if you take finance (which you can pay off straight away), so around £5-6k total discount is on offer.

At your spec, if you achieved those levels of discount you could drop your deposit to £2k and be at £449, or you could keep your deposit at £5k and your payment would go down to £360pcm

Put your spec into Carwow, sit back and see what your local dealers come back with, I think you'll be surprised. Then send the best to your dealer and say you'll cancel unless they match/beat it. 

Carbon mirrors are £450, not £90.

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Personally I think you'd be mad to spec those, but each to their own.

HTH :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 11 March 2019, 09:32
Just looked for an option to send you a private message but couldn’t see anything?

You should be able to send me a DM, on the main navigation where it says Home, Help etc. There is a 'My Messages' option, 'Send a message' is a sub menu item there.

I think you need a minimum post count of 10 before you can send a PM to another forum member. TCR’s a new forum member and hasn’t posted 10 times yet. .

I've been here too long to remember that. Thanks for the help, I'm sure he'll get there quick enough.  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 11 March 2019, 09:49
The small TCR logo seems to be there on the configurator without the decals spec'd so it would make sense that its standard.

I agree, that was my thinking. But I would be unsurprised to learn that VW had bundled it in with the hexagonal side decals to force people to buy the overpriced stickers!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TCR on 11 March 2019, 12:07
Just looked for an option to send you a private message but couldn’t see anything?

You should be able to send me a DM, on the main navigation where it says Home, Help etc. There is a 'My Messages' option, 'Send a message' is a sub menu item there.

I think you need a minimum post count of 10 before you can send a PM to another forum member. TCR’s a new forum member and hasn’t posted 10 times yet. .

I've been here too long to remember that. Thanks for the help, I'm sure he'll get there quick enough.  :smiley:

Thank you for your help, I have now done a car wow and already 3k cheaper. Will be calling my salesman later today.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 11 March 2019, 13:18
I think Carwow is showing 14.9% discount on the TCR currently, at least dealers that show up for me.

With the mark 8 on the horizon, how long do you see the TCR being available to order?  Ideally I would like it for September, but VW lead times look longer than most others.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 11 March 2019, 17:25
I think Carwow is showing 14.9% discount on the TCR currently, at least dealers that show up for me.

With the mark 8 on the horizon, how long do you see the TCR being available to order?  Ideally I would like it for September, but VW lead times look longer than most others.

My best guess is 6-8 months but conceivable that they could produce them up to 10 months. Depends on demand, how many body shells they're left with and so on.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 12 March 2019, 14:31
So VW have finally updated the configurator so you can spec all the TCR options with prices. Out fo curiosity I specced a TCR and R like for like (or as close as) with my GTI. I think VW are taking the piss only allowing 19's to be specced in a 'pack' as all the little things add up to the total cost.

Given discount levels are the same across all three models. I'm really struggling to see where the TCR sits 'proposition' wise, given it's just a trim level rather than anything special/specific like the CSS/CS was...

(https://i.postimg.cc/zDwRnvhd/IMG-2772.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DmZZh2Bs)

(https://i.postimg.cc/WbXFHyXg/IMG-2773.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fJSR384R)

(https://i.postimg.cc/PrtvKHzd/IMG-2775.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RqD0VjDY)

:huh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 12 March 2019, 14:42
Well for £2k you get the upgraded interior equivalent to (Art Velour £750), lightweight wheels (£2k to buy separately), and 286bhp (£500 remap). I'm not saying I'd have one but it does seem worth the difference in price as you get the better brakes, decals, black mirrors as well. Not sure I'd want any firmer suspension that mine though.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Sootchucker on 12 March 2019, 14:48
Jeez, wasn't that long ago we were baulking at a £30k Golf, now £40k seems to be quite normal...

Wonder in 3-4 years what a MK8 GTI / R will cost with a basic set of options - £45-48k ?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 12 March 2019, 14:52
Well for £2k you get the upgraded interior equivalent to (Art Velour £750), lightweight wheels (£2k to buy separately), and 286bhp (£500 remap). I'm not saying I'd have one but it does seem worth the difference in price as you get the better brakes, decals, black mirrors as well. Not sure I'd want any firmer suspension that mine though.
Leather is £1750, so the TCR Art Velour doesn't come into it if you want to spec leather. Speilbergs on the R are lightweight and only cost £810, DCC is £850, so VW are steering you into an illusion of paying an extra £340 for something on the TCR that in reality can't be used in this country.

Vented discs and a bit more BHP (torque is the same as the PP) on the TCR, sure, but worthy of the £? I'm not so sure.

That's all before we start talking about the dreaded 'luxury tax' bracket the TCR gets firmly pushed into.

It's going to be really interesting to see how many of these things VW sell, and where discounts will go, given we have only seemingly had two people here order one. That does surprise me given this forum's popularity.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 12 March 2019, 14:58
No one would spec leather in a TCR!! But you can't compare a fully spec'd car as options are individuals tastes, not everyone else. Base model vs base model and the extra kit you get more than justifies the extra £2k, simple as. As to whether they sell many, that's a different matter completely.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 12 March 2019, 15:04
No one would spec leather in a TCR!!
You keep saying that, but I personally would as I don't like the TCR seat pattern and there's no bucket option available to make it special. The amount of CS40's out there with leather would also suggest it's a more popular option that what you may think.

But you can't compare a fully spec'd car as options are individuals tastes, not everyone else.
As I said, my comparison is like for like, so it's all relative. Take Dynaudio/Pan Roof/Paint/Leather etc off the GTI, TCR and R and it reduces the price by the same amount across all three. It's the wheel pack that impacts things the most, especially if you wouldn't have specced DCC in the first place.

Base model v base model is still +£2k(vGTI) -£850 (vR). Add some wheels on the TCR and all of a sudden those prices grow/shrink even more disproportionally.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 12 March 2019, 15:15
No one would spec leather in a TCR!!
You keep saying that, but I personally would as I don't like the TCR seat pattern and there's no bucket option available to make it special. The amount of CS40's out there with leather would also suggest it's a more popular option that what you may think.

But you can't compare a fully spec'd car as options are individuals tastes, not everyone else.
As I said, my comparison is like for like, so it's all relative. Take Dynaudio/Pan Roof/Paint/Leather etc off the GTI, TCR and R and it reduces the price by the same amount across all three. It's the wheel pack that impacts things the most, especially if you wouldn't have specced DCC in the first place.

Base model v base model is still +£2k(vGTI) -£850 (vR). Add some wheels on the TCR and all of a sudden those prices grow/shrink even more disproportionally.

I know you would! But most people wouldn't. Electric leather seats are lovely.. In a Merc C Class.

You seem to be ignoring the facts that the £2k difference is made up of better brakes, lightweight wheels, more power (which DOES make it quicker), upgraded interior, black mirror caps, a different body kit etc. I have no idea what VR is? If you tried to build a base TCR from a GTI Performance it would cost more than £2k. End of.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kalimon on 12 March 2019, 15:23
No one would spec leather in a TCR!!
You keep saying that, but I personally would as I don't like the TCR seat pattern and there's no bucket option available to make it special. The amount of CS40's out there with leather would also suggest it's a more popular option that what you may think.

But you can't compare a fully spec'd car as options are individuals tastes, not everyone else.
As I said, my comparison is like for like, so it's all relative. Take Dynaudio/Pan Roof/Paint/Leather etc off the GTI, TCR and R and it reduces the price by the same amount across all three. It's the wheel pack that impacts things the most, especially if you wouldn't have specced DCC in the first place.

Base model v base model is still +£2k(vGTI) -£850 (vR). Add some wheels on the TCR and all of a sudden those prices grow/shrink even more disproportionally.

I know you would! But most people wouldn't. Electric leather seats are lovely.. In a Merc C Class.

You seem to be ignoring the facts that the £2k difference is made up of better brakes, lightweight wheels, more power (which DOES make it quicker), upgraded interior, black mirror caps, a different body kit etc. I have no idea what VR is? If you tried to build a base TCR from a GTI Performance it would cost more than £2k. End of.
Versus Golf R ?
ps
Why do you girls keep squabbling over minor differences of opinion?
It's a Golf ffs !
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 12 March 2019, 15:27
You seem to be ignoring the facts that the £2k difference is made up of better brakes, lightweight wheels, more power (which DOES make it quicker), upgraded interior, black mirror caps, a different body kit etc. I have no idea what VR is? If you tried to build a base TCR from a GTI Performance it would cost more than £2k. End of.
I'm not ignoring anything.

- Vented Discs, nothing else on the brakes, same callipers, same mechanics.
- 18's on the TCR v the 18" Parkers you only save circa 8kg in total weight. Put the 19's on both (or just on the TCR) and that difference shrinks even more.
- 45ps more, no torque increase.
- There's no 'upgraded' interior, it's the same as the normal GTI, apart form the seat material, hardly an upgrade.
- Black caps mirror caps - £100 off the shelf.
- Different bumper shape, different diffuser and sills and some TCR stickers.

You think that's worth a minimum £2k difference before you've added 19" wheels?

This isn't a CS40/CSS, there's nothing significantly different about it, the TCR issues like a cynical 'run-out' branding exercise.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 12 March 2019, 15:31
You are hilarious  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 12 March 2019, 16:01
You are hilarious  :rolleyes:
Why, because I don't agree and subscribe to your "end of" opinion? Last time I checked this was a public forum, where one can express an opinion even if it's different. Just because you don't agree doesn't make you right, or more wrong or the other way around.

It was only the other week you condescendingly thought I was "funny" for having my tyre replaced rather than have it repaired, telling me in no uncertain terms after I'd had it replaced that "A good repair will have no issues, especially not on a car like the Golf". My car, my money, my choice, doesn't make me wrong, and it certainly doesn't make you right, regardless of what you think.

There appears to be one or two more 'established' people on here who think their opinion is engraved in stone and gospel, and have been quite rude/condescending to people (particularly some newbies). Back to reality, we drive all-purpose Golf's, not bespoke sports cars, so your scoffing at leather seats is the 'hilarious' thing, to say the least, behaving like the Golf is some sort of super-duper track car that can only have 'sporty' things on it regardless of one's own personal circumstances/needs/preferences.

Jim, don't be like them, I always thought you were one of the more helpful/respectful ones.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 12 March 2019, 16:15
I do try to be helpful. As it's a forum, it's easy for the point to be missed. Apologies for the hilarious comment.

Personally, I wouldn't get a TCR so getting into a discussion wasn't really my idea. But the facts remain, I think, when compared base vs base, the TCR seems like decent value as the brakes are from a Clubsport S, it has more power and is quicker, the interior whether you like it or not is a higher spec than the tartan cloth as its includes the door cards and 12 o'clock marker, the outside consists of a lower side sills, deeper front and rear spoiler and the car sits lower. As I said, you couldn't build you own for £2k more than a Performance model with aftermarket parts. As we've seen, the rear lip spoiler will be over £250 to buy!

Yes it's not limited and when you spec it to £41k, it probably makes no sense what so ever. My GTI is bog standard and its such a fantastic car out of the box that I just wouldn't option one up if I was buying with my own cash. But as you rightly point out, you can do what you want with your money and everyone is different.

Re the tyre - I would never bin a new tyre if it can be repaired, and I don't even pay for my tyres. It's just how I am. Its a Yorkshire thing.  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 12 March 2019, 17:28
For what it’s worth (not much!) my opinion on the GTI specials VW churn out occasionally (ed30, Pirelli, Ed35, Ed40, TCR) is that they offer decent value when you look at the parts (uprated engine internals alone give greater tuning potential as far as some enthusiasts are concerned or the comfort of more power out of a standard engine sans remap and warranty implications for others, I’ve been in both camps).

They’re priced just, and only just, short of an R model.

They might not be strictly limited edition models but they’re limited production and of limited appeal until they become a few years old and into the enthusiast market.
They offer unique features over a standard GTI and are aimed at a very limited clientele.

The Ed30 sold like hot cakes due to its tunability and the popularity of hot hatches at the time.
The Pirelli was almost invisible, poorly marketed and a second hand bargain in 2009 when dealers pre-registered the unsold stock.
The Ed35 was totally invisible, the Ed40 largely ignored until dealers pre registered remaining stock, the TCR likely to follow in those shoes.
People find these models interesting but few bother buying them.

Good value over a GTI if the extra bits are important to you, poor value next to an R if overall competence or discretion is important.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 12 March 2019, 17:51
Jeez, wasn't that long ago we were baulking at a £30k Golf, now £40k seems to be quite normal...

Wonder in 3-4 years what a MK8 GTI / R will cost with a basic set of options - £45-48k ?

I reckon likely the RRP base price will be just sub 40k to avoid the VED penalty... but definitely nudging 40k. Add some paint and a random couple of options and yes 45k.

There are going to be some new sexy tech options on the Mk8, none of which will come in cheap. New active DCC, the panoramic MIB, possibly the next level of driver automation too... that lot alone will add probably 5k+

What did a base Mk5 or Mk6 GTI cost?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 12 March 2019, 18:45
Suppose the problem is that the Mk7/7.5 is so good. There’s a performance golf for all tastes, each with different qualities, price points and target drivers.

I would have been just as happy in a pp gti as a TCR as an R. In fact, if I hadn’t previously had a Mk7 pp gti I would have bought another this time. The tcr will be a stunning car and probably a bit more driver focused. The premium over the pp will probably be returned in residuals. Think that people are right that it’ll be hanging around dealer forecourts as the average car buying won’t know why you pay the premium or care. Perhaps even the styling will be too much for them. For the enthusiast it’ll be worth every penny.

A car purchase never makes sense.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Paul70 on 13 March 2019, 18:15
Very interesting Exonian, I wonder if the TCR will be a repeat of the Pirelli?

I am amazed at the discounts VW are offering at this early stage.

I am sorely tempted to exchange my CS as there are some really nice features on the 7.5 compared with the 7 and I prefer the look of the TCR compared to the CS - a little more discreet than the CS as long as the graphics aren’t specced.

Also as much as I love the buckets in the CS they are a PITA with a 3 door and I would like a red car too.

Any thoughts on residuals CS vs TCR? What is the residual difference between the ED30 and the Pirelli over the years (say after 4 to 5 years), as that is probably the closest comparison?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 14 March 2019, 09:37
My local dealer isn't getting a TCR until June apparently.  If I was to order now it would be build week 38, so I guess delivery would be pretty late this year.  So waiting until I can see it in the flesh in June, by the time its delivered I may as well wait a few weeks longer and target the plate change next March.  :shocked:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 14 March 2019, 10:02
My local dealer isn't getting a TCR until June apparently.  If I was to order now it would be build week 38, so I guess delivery would be pretty late this year.  So waiting until I can see it in the flesh in June, by the time its delivered I may as well wait a few weeks longer and target the plate change next March.  :shocked:

If the mk8 is officially unveiled to the public at the Frankfurt motor show in September as has been suggested in the motoring press, VW are likely to re-tool the factory for mk8 production in Q3 this year (if not sooner). Calendar week 38 is w/c 16/09/2019, which coincides with the Frankfurt motor show, so I’d be very surprised if VW are still building the mk7 Golf in September; AFAIK they’ve never built the the new and old models side by side - once they start building the mk8 Golf, mk7 production will have ceased.

Worth checking with your dealer on when VW are likely to stop taking orders for the mk7. If, as has been suggested on this forum, the TCR may be a slow seller, there’ll no doubt be unregistered or pre-registered examples withi the dealer network after the mk8 has been launched. But if you want a TCR built to your spec, then you may need to get your order in now.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 14 March 2019, 10:35
They will retool during their August shutdown like they always do...

What is amazing is how little the window of opportunity is for getting one of these...
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Dunc245 on 14 March 2019, 11:18
My local dealer isn't getting a TCR until June apparently.  If I was to order now it would be build week 38, so I guess delivery would be pretty late this year.  So waiting until I can see it in the flesh in June, by the time its delivered I may as well wait a few weeks longer and target the plate change next March.  :shocked:

If the mk8 is officially unveiled to the public at the Frankfurt motor show in September as has been suggested in the motoring press, VW are likely to re-tool the factory for mk8 production in Q3 this year (if not sooner). Calendar week 38 is w/c 16/09/2019, which coincides with the Frankfurt motor show, so I’d be very surprised if VW are still building the mk7 Golf in September; AFAIK they’ve never built the the new and old models side by side - once they start building the mk8 Golf, mk7 production will have ceased.

Worth checking with your dealer on when VW are likely to stop taking orders for the mk7. If, as has been suggested on this forum, the TCR may be a slow seller, there’ll no doubt be unregistered or pre-registered examples withi the dealer network after the mk8 has been launched. But if you want a TCR built to your spec, then you may need to get your order in now.

See a new thread on here about Mk8 launch may now be slipping back until 2020.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 16 March 2019, 21:45
Jeez, wasn't that long ago we were baulking at a £30k Golf, now £40k seems to be quite normal...

Wonder in 3-4 years what a MK8 GTI / R will cost with a basic set of options - £45-48k ?

I agree with the comments about pricing, a Golf is a Golf is a Golf and I just couldn’t bring myself to pay over £40,000 but cars are simply levers into a finance agreement these days and the price just seems to be incidental. There was a Polo (not a GTI) on the forecourt at my dealer the other day for £29k to put it into perspective. It had a 1.0 litre engine. I remember when I specified a MKVI GTI and I had to add near £10k in options off a base of about £23k. Bi-xenon lights, cruise control and sat nav which are all standard now (and much besides) were extra. The price hasn’t increased dramatically in real terms, the access point and way in which the cars are sold has. If it weren’t for brokerage sites, I don’t think we’d have as much transparency and we wouldn’t be debating an R, TCR or PP in the same way.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 19 March 2019, 13:38
(https://i.ibb.co/tPxr96z/update.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1JdWkNM)

Looks like it's only a few weeks from the birthing pool.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Clubsport S on 19 March 2019, 19:03
(https://i.ibb.co/tPxr96z/update.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1JdWkNM)

Looks like it's only a few weeks from the birthing pool.

Wow that is quick. Much quicker than the Clubsport or S after they were announced.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 19 March 2019, 19:32
(https://i.ibb.co/tPxr96z/update.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1JdWkNM)

Looks like it's only a few weeks from the birthing pool.

Very very quick. I was quoted 4-5 months! Exciting times ahead.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 20 March 2019, 08:07

It could all change of course but I was quoted first week of June for delivery and then it was build week 18. Then I got this yesterday. Not sure how reliable estimates have been in the past from this stage but hoping to have the car in May.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sh3lldon on 21 March 2019, 11:58
Hi guys new member here, just placed order for 5 Door TCR now the wait begins! Im used to waiting awhile as I have bought a good few imports from Japan, collected a car last month and had waited around 7 months from purchase, saying that it never gets easier!

Was stuck between a new TCR or a used clubsport 40 went for the TCR deal was excellent and have never ordered a new car to my spec!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 21 March 2019, 13:01
I was holding out for a test drive, but with the wait times I'm on the fence about just putting an order in.

Has anyone seen more than 15% off yet?

On a side note, would anyone expect a run out model for the R in the same way this is for the GTi?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 22 March 2019, 08:54
Hi guys new member here, just placed order for 5 Door TCR now the wait begins! Im used to waiting awhile as I have bought a good few imports from Japan, collected a car last month and had waited around 7 months from purchase, saying that it never gets easier!

Was stuck between a new TCR or a used clubsport 40 went for the TCR deal was excellent and have never ordered a new car to my spec!

Welcome sh3lldon! I was starting to think I was the only one who had placed an order. When are you expecting the car or have you not got a build date yet?

Know the feeling on waits, longest I had was just under 2 years. Out of interest - your imports, Japanese? I've been looking at an Integrale out of Japan for a while so might pick your brain at some point.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 22 March 2019, 09:04
I was holding out for a test drive, but with the wait times I'm on the fence about just putting an order in.

Has anyone seen more than 15% off yet?

On a side note, would anyone expect a run out model for the R in the same way this is for the GTi?

I don't think you'll get the luxury of a test drive. Have a read of EVO, they compared the MKV GTI, MKVII Clubsport S and TCR, their comments on the first two were spot on.

Doubt you'll see more than 15% or thereabouts on the TCR and if you do, tell me, I might need to go back to my dealer on a few accessories he's been holding out on!  :evil:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sh3lldon on 22 March 2019, 23:06
Hi guys new member here, just placed order for 5 Door TCR now the wait begins! Im used to waiting awhile as I have bought a good few imports from Japan, collected a car last month and had waited around 7 months from purchase, saying that it never gets easier!

Was stuck between a new TCR or a used clubsport 40 went for the TCR deal was excellent and have never ordered a new car to my spec!

Welcome sh3lldon! I was starting to think I was the only one who had placed an order. When are you expecting the car or have you not got a build date yet?

Know the feeling on waits, longest I had was just under 2 years. Out of interest - your imports, Japanese? I've been looking at an Integrale out of Japan for a while so might pick your brain at some point.

Hi mate, waiting just now order only placed thursday expected date says 30th of june but been told a more accurate timing will come once order in system not yet showing in MyVW.

Yes japanese anything you need to know drop me a mail have had 5 imports all sourced for me fairly knowledgable on the process. For something such as that I would 100% recommend sourcing the car from japan you will be able to get exactly what you are after in spec and condition, it may take a slight while but the cars always show up.

How did you spec the TCR? I have went 5 door with DCC, Dynaudio and b pillar tints 90%

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 23 March 2019, 18:23
Hi guys new member here, just placed order for 5 Door TCR now the wait begins! Im used to waiting awhile as I have bought a good few imports from Japan, collected a car last month and had waited around 7 months from purchase, saying that it never gets easier!

Was stuck between a new TCR or a used clubsport 40 went for the TCR deal was excellent and have never ordered a new car to my spec!

Welcome sh3lldon! I was starting to think I was the only one who had placed an order. When are you expecting the car or have you not got a build date yet?

Know the feeling on waits, longest I had was just under 2 years. Out of interest - your imports, Japanese? I've been looking at an Integrale out of Japan for a while so might pick your brain at some point.

Hi mate, waiting just now order only placed thursday expected date says 30th of june but been told a more accurate timing will come once order in system not yet showing in MyVW.

Yes japanese anything you need to know drop me a mail have had 5 imports all sourced for me fairly knowledgable on the process. For something such as that I would 100% recommend sourcing the car from japan you will be able to get exactly what you are after in spec and condition, it may take a slight while but the cars always show up.

How did you spec the TCR? I have went 5 door with DCC, Dynaudio and b pillar tints 90%

Once you get a build date in the calendar, then you can get your countdown timer going. Mine should arrive end of April/early May.

Similar spec to you, didn't option the Dynaudio though but went Pure Grey, 19 Reinfnitz Wheels (with DCC/Speed Limit pack), Climate Windscreen, Lane Assist Plus. What colour did you go for?

Appreciate the help with the Japanese car import side of things, I've been toying with doing it for ages. 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sh3lldon on 23 March 2019, 21:42
Colour is white, with 18" wheels, I will be putting some aftermarket wheels on.

Yeah any questions drop me a message.

Order now showing up in MyVW app step 2 with the factory being scheduled for production
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 23 March 2019, 23:04
I’ve got one ordered, being built week of 8th April  :laugh:
Pure grey, reifnitz pack, pan roof, climate screen & extra airbags. Good deal from Joe Knight at TL Darby VW but search JMK deals.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 24 March 2019, 08:48
Colour is white, with 18" wheels, I will be putting some aftermarket wheels on.

Yeah any questions drop me a message.

Order now showing up in MyVW app step 2 with the factory being scheduled for production

White will look superb. My CS is white or rather streaky brown at the moment. It needs a proper wash.

Think your post count needs to hit 10 before I can DM you BTW.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 24 March 2019, 08:50
I’ve got one ordered, being built week of 8th April  :laugh:
Pure grey, reifnitz pack, pan roof, climate screen & extra airbags. Good deal from Joe Knight at TL Darby VW but search JMK deals.

Dammit. You're a week ahead of me.  :laugh: Only found out about JMK after he followed me on IG which was about 2 days after I ordered mine. 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 24 March 2019, 15:53
What’s JMK deals? Googled showed me flights  :grin:

Are the deals better than drive the deal and carwow?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 24 March 2019, 16:00
What’s JMK deals? Googled showed me flights  :grin:

Are the deals better than drive the deal and carwow?
Joe Knights, he's trying to be the TRL (Tony Lewis) for the VW scene. But whereas Tony has been in BMW for many many years, Joe is young and new. Seems a nice enough guy, but I'm not sure his deals are anything above what you can get from Carwow or DTD though.

https://www.instagram.com/jmkdeals/

He seems to have latched onto Andrew Chapple (Volkswizard) to start his PR run.

:smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sh3lldon on 24 March 2019, 16:11
My order was placed with Joe and so far service has been excellent as was deal. Not in a postion to fully recommend but so far couldn't have asked for more. Have also been dealing with a BMW dealer at the same time who wouldn't stop calling me, the no nonsense approach and pricing suited me with Joe. I hope the rest of the purchase goes aswell
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 24 March 2019, 16:50
When I was looking at a TCR, Joe was amazing. Can’t soeak highly enough of his service. Great deals too. Only thing was the trade in value he offered was quite poor compared to what I could get elsewhere.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 24 March 2019, 18:11
What’s JMK deals? Googled showed me flights  :grin:

Are the deals better than drive the deal and carwow?
Joe Knights, he's trying to be the TRL (Tony Lewis) for the VW scene. But whereas Tony has been in BMW for many many years, Joe is young and new. Seems a nice enough guy, but I'm not sure his deals are anything above what you can get from Carwow or DTD though.

https://www.instagram.com/jmkdeals/

He seems to have latched onto Andrew Chapple (Volkswizard) to start his PR run.

:smiley:

Thanks. Will take a look. I’m familiar with TLR and was hoping there would be an equivalent VW person.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 25 March 2019, 19:25
https://youtu.be/6A9kuTKD2cY

Another video while you’re waiting. I think the rear lip spoiler has changed. Doesn’t look as pronounced.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 28 March 2019, 10:03
Has no-one ordered Tornado Red? Easily the best looking...

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bvih-DOj0SZ/

(https://i.postimg.cc/GpbVNggG/Screenshot-2019-03-28-at-09-54-30.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kalimon on 28 March 2019, 13:58
Has no-one ordered Tornado Red? Easily the best looking...

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bvih-DOj0SZ/

(https://i.postimg.cc/GpbVNggG/Screenshot-2019-03-28-at-09-54-30.png) (https://postimages.org/)

Nah, it's too red  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 28 March 2019, 15:21
Nah, it's too red  :grin:

Is that even possible? :whistle:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kalimon on 28 March 2019, 16:46
Nah, it's too red  :grin:

Is that even possible? :whistle:
Probably not :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 29 March 2019, 15:26
Whats peoples thoughts on the two 19" wheel options? 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sh3lldon on 29 March 2019, 23:39
Whats peoples thoughts on the two 19" wheel options?

personally just went with standard wheels and spec'd DCC, more than likely will put aftermarket wheels thinking about enkei rs05rr. I also like to use Yokohama tires
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 March 2019, 08:11
19s are just a look and the sweet spot size is 18s. Lightweight aftermarket wheels are what I'll be doing in the future.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 31 March 2019, 09:55
Whats peoples thoughts on the two 19" wheel options?

I did a poll on my IG and I think about 150 people to 3 voted for the Pretoria alloys when I posed the same question.

Went with the minority and ordered Reifnitz as have Pretorias on the CSS. I'm not wild about the design but reasoned it was the launch wheel and a new design debuting on the TCR.

Have been toying with the idea of getting 18" Pretoria wheels and refinishing them in Pale Gold but I need to see the car in the metal. I think Pure Grey is colder than Grey Black on the GT3RS so might not work. I might have to do some Photoshop and an opinion poll on here come the time.

(https://rennlist.com/forums/attachments/vehicle-marketplace/1076794d1470229854-2011-gt3-rs-grey-black-dsc_3251.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TCR on 01 April 2019, 18:13
Whats peoples thoughts on the two 19" wheel options?

I went for the pretorias when I ordered mine.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TCR on 02 April 2019, 12:40
Finally got my build date through, week 21  :tongue:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philmots on 02 April 2019, 15:50
Hi

Looking at a TCR to replace my Cupra 300 for September delivery. Leon is a great car but being manual it’s starting to frustrate day to day, I also thing the TCR is a bit more ‘special’ which I think the Leon lacks even though as a car it’s absolutely awesome. Golf R, S3 do nothing for me whatsoever btw.

Just contacted JMK for a price, my main consideration re spec is to delete the active info dash? What’s the consensus on that, would it be a nightmare ever moving the car on without it.

Cheers
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 April 2019, 17:39
Why do you want to delete the digital dash?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philmots on 02 April 2019, 18:43
Because I don’t really like them.

The quandary is; would it be a huge put off whenever I come to move it on.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 02 April 2019, 18:48
Deleting the active dash would be absolutely fine for resale. If you never plan to sell it  :grin:

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 April 2019, 19:29
If two identical cars were sitting next to one another for sale the one with the digital dash would sell first 99% of the time. Philmots you might be the 1%  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 02 April 2019, 19:30
Because I don’t really like them.

The quandary is; would it be a huge put off whenever I come to move it on.

My advice would be keep it. I also thought about deleting - I would be quite happy with traditional dials- but didn't because I thought it better to keep the car standard.
I wouldn't delete because
1. it's actually pretty good
2. it would be a put off to buyers. People like pointless sh!t. Why else do they spec keyless?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 02 April 2019, 19:35
Because I don’t really like them.

The quandary is; would it be a huge put off whenever I come to move it on.

If you want to avoid the digital dash and get something special, you're better off shopping for a Clubsport.

Personally, if I saw a TCR that had the digital dash ripped out, I wouldn't go near it.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Guzzle on 02 April 2019, 19:39
I wasn't convinced either by the active info display at first, but now I've got used to it I don't think i'd consider a new Golf without it. I'd also be put off by a used car that was missing any standard equipment.

That being said, it's your money so buy what you want and live with the consequences.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 02 April 2019, 20:40
Because I don’t really like them.

The quandary is; would it be a huge put off whenever I come to move it on.

If you want to avoid the digital dash and get something special, you're better off shopping for a Clubsport.

Personally, if I saw a TCR that had the digital dash ripped out, I wouldn't go near it.

Agreed! Get a CS.

It would be like changing the Mk7.5 headlights back to Mk7s because you prefer xenons to LED. You just wouldn't do it!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 02 April 2019, 20:59
I'm a bit of a luddite and understand the preference for real dials but, at some point in buying a new car there will be no choice so best to breathe deep and embrace the change. You might like it :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sh3lldon on 03 April 2019, 15:26
Build scheduled for the last week of april now, quicker than I thought!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 03 April 2019, 16:40
Build scheduled for the last week of april now, quicker than I thought!

That's good  :smiley: I don't imagine they have many to build, especially now the WTLP backlog should be cleared.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 03 April 2019, 17:15
A fella on twitter has a uk TCR. Red with the CS alloys. Looks good!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 05 April 2019, 10:31
First TCR review on UK roads, versus the Megane 300 Trophy...

https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features/renault-megane-300-trophy-vs-vw-golf-gti-tcr/39946
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TurboTrev on 05 April 2019, 13:41
Looks nothing in red imho.  I think for it to look special it needs to be in the unique signature grey.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 05 April 2019, 14:23
Looks nothing in red imho.  I think for it to look special it needs to be in the unique signature grey.

Red looks stunning in the TCR. Grey looks at best ok, too much like the free grey they do on offer models though.

(https://i.postimg.cc/GpbVNggG/Screenshot_2019-03-28_at_09.54.30.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 05 April 2019, 20:36
(https://i.postimg.cc/GpbVNggG/Screenshot_2019-03-28_at_09.54.30.png) (https://postimages.org/)

 :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 06 April 2019, 10:01
Looks nothing in red imho.  I think for it to look special it needs to be in the unique signature grey.

Red looks stunning in the TCR. Grey looks at best ok, too much like the free grey they do on offer models though.

(https://i.postimg.cc/GpbVNggG/Screenshot_2019-03-28_at_09.54.30.png) (https://postimages.org/)

Sacrilege Jim.  :grin:

Flat colours look great on cars with aggressive bodywork but red has never worked for me. Pure Grey is a lot creamier than the metallics. You could also argue it looks like primer but everyone's a critic.



Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 06 April 2019, 21:18
Looks nothing in red imho.  I think for it to look special it needs to be in the unique signature grey.

Red looks stunning in the TCR. Grey looks at best ok, too much like the free grey they do on offer models though.



Sacrilege Jim.  :grin:

Flat colours look great on cars with aggressive bodywork but red has never worked for me. Pure Grey is a lot creamier than the metallics. You could also argue it looks like primer but everyone's a critic.

 :smiley: I know what you mean. But I just think red looks great, especially on the TCR.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 06 April 2019, 21:38
Very good review - sounds like the TCR is fantastic having read this. None of the track related stuff that Autogehgul mentioned.

https://drivetribe.com/p/is-the-new-golf-gti-tcr-a-hot-hatch-Eg__pGdXS36aGsuVzCLJWQ?iid=LCFI17RRR2eVQyeANUbOpw
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 07 April 2019, 06:42
Very good review - sounds like the TCR is fantastic having read this. None of the track related stuff that Autogehgul mentioned.

https://drivetribe.com/p/is-the-new-golf-gti-tcr-a-hot-hatch-Eg__pGdXS36aGsuVzCLJWQ?iid=LCFI17RRR2eVQyeANUbOpw

Now Uk reviews are coming in, it’s odd that some of these same mags said the ride was firm but are now saying it’s ok. Possibly a different journalist I suppose from the same magazine. Great to see them on UK roads. Can’t wait to see one in the flesh.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 07 April 2019, 07:08
Now Uk reviews are coming in, it’s odd that some of these same mags said the ride was firm but are now saying it’s ok. Possibly a different journalist I suppose from the same magazine.
The test cars in Portugal were all on 19" Reifnitz's, but the UK press car has been released on the 18" Quaranta's.

Sneaky Clever VW...   :rolleyes: :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 07 April 2019, 08:27
Now Uk reviews are coming in, it’s odd that some of these same mags said the ride was firm but are now saying it’s ok. Possibly a different journalist I suppose from the same magazine.
The test cars in Portugal were all on 19" Reifnitz's, but the UK press car has been released on the 18" Quaranta's.

Sneaky Clever VW...   :rolleyes: :grin:

True true. I just thought the dcc would smooth that. Autoexpress say that the ride is noticeably harsher on 19s.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 07 April 2019, 21:42
Now Uk reviews are coming in, it’s odd that some of these same mags said the ride was firm but are now saying it’s ok. Possibly a different journalist I suppose from the same magazine.
The test cars in Portugal were all on 19" Reifnitz's, but the UK press car has been released on the 18" Quaranta's.

Sneaky Clever VW...   :rolleyes: :grin:

True true. I just thought the dcc would smooth that. Autoexpress say that the ride is noticeably harsher on 19s.

On the assumption that the CSS in race mode on 19" wheels is anything like the TCR, it's going to be far too harsh and brittle on the road. But like you, I don't believe that a comfort setting on DCC won't be able to dial that out. Should be able to settle that question at the end of the month all being well.

Any car is going to be harsher on larger wheels due to reduced tyre wall and I'm surprised that VW didn't offer an 18" wheel option with the same package as Pretoria and Reifnitz.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 08 April 2019, 15:41
Now Uk reviews are coming in, it’s odd that some of these same mags said the ride was firm but are now saying it’s ok. Possibly a different journalist I suppose from the same magazine.
The test cars in Portugal were all on 19" Reifnitz's, but the UK press car has been released on the 18" Quaranta's.

Sneaky Clever VW...   :rolleyes: :grin:


True true. I just thought the dcc would smooth that. Autoexpress say that the ride is noticeably harsher on 19s.

On the assumption that the CSS in race mode on 19" wheels is anything like the TCR, it's going to be far too harsh and brittle on the road. But like you, I don't believe that a comfort setting on DCC won't be able to dial that out. Should be able to settle that question at the end of the month all being well.

Any car is going to be harsher on larger wheels due to reduced tyre wall and I'm surprised that VW didn't offer an 18" wheel option with the same package as Pretoria and Reifnitz.

Bit torn, really like the TCR with the 19" Reifnitz's and my heart is saying go with the iconic GTI to complete the set having jumped to the present R from a GTD

Sensible me is saying stay with the AWD and go back to back R (have now dismissed the A35 AMG after a mild flirtation with it)

Can someone define the 20 mm lower ride on the TCR for me? how much lower is that than the R or is it the same?

The ride on my R with DCC on Pretoria is actually too bouncy in comfort so why is it being said the TCR is firm on 19" with DCC or is the set up quite different?

Maybe rose colored thinking as like the TCR so much in style so feel can cope with the damp/wet tramping of the TCR but then think am I mad?!  as my GTD with 185 BHP used to drive me mad at times and for little extra in ££ you get the AWD

Another consideration being a company lease is that the TCR is 151 g/km opposed to the R 163 g/km so there is likely some saving there on the BIK

so really torn, would love to have the iconic GTI to complete my set of the Golf performance range and its a battle style and iconic of the TCR vs the practical and pragmatic of AWD

Is there anyone here who has test drove and ordered a TCR?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 08 April 2019, 22:32
Now Uk reviews are coming in, it’s odd that some of these same mags said the ride was firm but are now saying it’s ok. Possibly a different journalist I suppose from the same magazine.
The test cars in Portugal were all on 19" Reifnitz's, but the UK press car has been released on the 18" Quaranta's.

Sneaky Clever VW...   :rolleyes: :grin:


True true. I just thought the dcc would smooth that. Autoexpress say that the ride is noticeably harsher on 19s.

On the assumption that the CSS in race mode on 19" wheels is anything like the TCR, it's going to be far too harsh and brittle on the road. But like you, I don't believe that a comfort setting on DCC won't be able to dial that out. Should be able to settle that question at the end of the month all being well.

Any car is going to be harsher on larger wheels due to reduced tyre wall and I'm surprised that VW didn't offer an 18" wheel option with the same package as Pretoria and Reifnitz.

Bit torn, really like the TCR with the 19" Reifnitz's and my heart is saying go with the iconic GTI to complete the set having jumped to the present R from a GTD

Sensible me is saying stay with the AWD and go back to back R (have now dismissed the A35 AMG after a mild flirtation with it)

Can someone define the 20 mm lower ride on the TCR for me? how much lower is that than the R or is it the same?

The ride on my R with DCC on Pretoria is actually too bouncy in comfort so why is it being said the TCR is firm on 19" with DCC or is the set up quite different?

Maybe rose colored thinking as like the TCR so much in style so feel can cope with the damp/wet tramping of the TCR but then think am I mad?!  as my GTD with 185 BHP used to drive me mad at times and for little extra in ££ you get the AWD

Another consideration being a company lease is that the TCR is 151 g/km opposed to the R 163 g/km so there is likely some saving there on the BIK

so really torn, would love to have the iconic GTI to complete my set of the Golf performance range and its a battle style and iconic of the TCR vs the practical and pragmatic of AWD

Is there anyone here who has test drove and ordered a TCR?

I've not test driven a TCR but have one ordered which is in build next week so I'm hoping to have it at the end of the month.

Maybe this will help your quandary, contains frequent references to your debate: https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-reviews/2019-volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr/

The differences in ride height are not really material beyond paper comparison and no factory order Golf is so impractically low that you have to start thinking about your front splitter and approach angles. Dampers and DCC setup are where you'll find the differences on this car and if it's similar to the CSS (which I'm hoping it will be) then it won't be bouncy in comfort.

Choice comes down to personal preference at the end of the day. The TCR is fractionally under the power of a new 'WLTP' R now but is lighter without the AWD system. If won't feel slow and much like my CSS, I expect it's going to feel a lot quicker than the manufacturer posted 0-60 times.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Guzzle on 08 April 2019, 22:57
Just noticed that the Reifnitz are only 7.5J width whereas the Pretoria's are 8J. So you'll get an extra 10mm tyre width and 3.5mm more tyre wall with Pret's. Anyone know if the Reifnitz are cast or flow formed like the Pret's?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 09 April 2019, 05:41
Couldn’t see if this review has been shared. Suggests they should have called it a GTI Performance Plus which actually sounds pretty spot on.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/

Mentions the ride height which with adaptive dampers is 5mm lower only than a GTI P and the 20mm is ride height difference is between a GTI and a standard Golf. 

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 09 April 2019, 07:13
Couldn’t see if this review has been shared. Suggests they should have called it a GTI Performance Plus which actually sounds pretty spot on.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/

Mentions the ride height which with adaptive dampers is 5mm lower only than a GTI P and the 20mm is ride height difference is between a GTI and a standard Golf.

Good and fair review I thought. I wonder if they could have offered a sequential gearbox, similar to what Abarth did with the dog ring box in the 695 Biposto to create a stronger TCR link. Instead we're left debating mm differences in ride height!  :laugh:

They mention tyres in the article, does anyone know what they ship with as standard on the 19" wheels? The Motor Research review shows a close up with 19" Pretorias running on Pirelli PZeros and from the plate, I'm guessing that's one of the press cars as it has appeared in several articles. I'm not sure where the Michelin option exists per the article.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 09 April 2019, 08:15
Couldn’t see if this review has been shared. Suggests they should have called it a GTI Performance Plus which actually sounds pretty spot on.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/

Mentions the ride height which with adaptive dampers is 5mm lower only than a GTI P and the 20mm is ride height difference is between a GTI and a standard Golf.

Good and fair review I thought. I wonder if they could have offered a sequential gearbox, similar to what Abarth did with the dog ring box in the 695 Biposto to create a stronger TCR link. Instead we're left debating mm differences in ride height!  :laugh:

They mention tyres in the article, does anyone know what they ship with as standard on the 19" wheels? The Motor Research review shows a close up with 19" Pretorias running on Pirelli PZeros and from the plate, I'm guessing that's one of the press cars as it has appeared in several articles. I'm not sure where the Michelin option exists per the article.

Its not really ride height itself that querying its the ride itself, as most, despite its leaning to track will never take it near a track and it will spend its life on UK roads - that article was more promising in terms of the DCC making the ride comfortable for the times when you are commuting around.

The DCC on my GTD was a revelation, loved it, appropriately firm in Sport and soft and cossetted in comfort

The DCC on my R was a surprise as expected the ride to be a little more compromised on the 19" Pretoria but it was opposite, where normal on the R = Comfort on the GTD and comfort on R is in fact a little too bouncy if anything. - Put that down to a lighter wheel??

But from what gleaming, you cannot make a comparison for the TCR as it maybe DCC, but its a different set up, and my hope is comfort on the TCR would be like normal on the R? if thats about right that would be great - Not overly bothered if ride really firms up in race/sport on TCR as given pressed that button then its really what seeking in sharper experience.

The other concern is the traction on getaway, as again my GTD used to tramp and thats circa 100 BHP less than the TCR

So just get an R would really be the answer but there has always been a hankering for a GTI, always been on list to tick since a kid, and personally really like this version which has a lot more style and appeal than the more capable R - Style vs practicality.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: hog_hedge on 09 April 2019, 08:17
Poor TCR.

(https://i.imgur.com/TwyxB2x.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2K1OfA7.jpg)

:cry:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 09 April 2019, 08:26
Lucky they aren't a limited number!!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: hog_hedge on 09 April 2019, 09:01
Lucky they aren't a limited number!!  :grin:

Ouch :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 09 April 2019, 09:04
Poor TCR.

(https://i.imgur.com/TwyxB2x.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2K1OfA7.jpg)

:cry:

Panic over for the forums member with one on order in Grey as its LHD!  :grin:

Obviously it's fallen off the factory train. Someone's having a bad day at work...
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 09 April 2019, 09:25
Couldn’t see if this review has been shared. Suggests they should have called it a GTI Performance Plus which actually sounds pretty spot on.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/

Mentions the ride height which with adaptive dampers is 5mm lower only than a GTI P and the 20mm is ride height difference is between a GTI and a standard Golf.

Good and fair review I thought. I wonder if they could have offered a sequential gearbox, similar to what Abarth did with the dog ring box in the 695 Biposto to create a stronger TCR link. Instead we're left debating mm differences in ride height!  :laugh:

They mention tyres in the article, does anyone know what they ship with as standard on the 19" wheels? The Motor Research review shows a close up with 19" Pretorias running on Pirelli PZeros and from the plate, I'm guessing that's one of the press cars as it has appeared in several articles. I'm not sure where the Michelin option exists per the article.

Its not really ride height itself that querying its the ride itself, as most, despite its leaning to track will never take it near a track and it will spend its life on UK roads - that article was more promising in terms of the DCC making the ride comfortable for the times when you are commuting around.

The DCC on my GTD was a revelation, loved it, appropriately firm in Sport and soft and cossetted in comfort

The DCC on my R was a surprise as expected the ride to be a little more compromised on the 19" Pretoria but it was opposite, where normal on the R = Comfort on the GTD and comfort on R is in fact a little too bouncy if anything. - Put that down to a lighter wheel??

But from what gleaming, you cannot make a comparison for the TCR as it maybe DCC, but its a different set up, and my hope is comfort on the TCR would be like normal on the R? if thats about right that would be great - Not overly bothered if ride really firms up in race/sport on TCR as given pressed that button then its really what seeking in sharper experience.

The other concern is the traction on getaway, as again my GTD used to tramp and thats circa 100 BHP less than the TCR

So just get an R would really be the answer but there has always been a hankering for a GTI, always been on list to tick since a kid, and personally really like this version which has a lot more style and appeal than the more capable R - Style vs practicality.

You sound like you want a GTI. If you're going to get any GTI, I'd suggest this would be a good one to scratch the itch with.

Until someone does a back to back review comparing the GTI Performance to the TCR and R, I think we're going to be left to speculate. That said, there are sufficient variables with wheel, tyre choices and software for you to be able to get the car as you want but I'd be surprised if VW hadn't made it liveable with day to day. If the marketing is to be believed, there is a unique setup on the TCR and only driving an R and GTI PP back to back will give a sense of feel but then to ensure a fair comparison, you'd need the same wheel/tyre combination and I don't think any of the reviews are conducted with that level of rigour so are slightly subjective as road tests.

What I took away from the Motoring Research article is that the car is great on the roads that I would expect it to be good on. It won't match straight line speed with AWD on the R of course but the reviewer commented that the power/weight translated in the curves and 290 is still a lot of power for a FWD hot hatch.

I know what you mean about tramping, I have it with the GTD but it doesn't happen that often. I've more or less come to recognise the conditions where it'll occur and ease off in anticipation but it's the least appealing trait of the car. I did change the map on the GTD at one point and it was on about 220/490 but it introduced terrible torque steer and exaggerated the tramping so reversed it. I would have had to undertake a lot more tuning which I wasn't interested in spending money on but did think to check the geo and it was all over the place. I had the geo properly set by JZM and it made a substantial difference as did a change of tyres.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 09 April 2019, 09:27
Couldn’t see if this review has been shared. Suggests they should have called it a GTI Performance Plus which actually sounds pretty spot on.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/

Mentions the ride height which with adaptive dampers is 5mm lower only than a GTI P and the 20mm is ride height difference is between a GTI and a standard Golf.

Good and fair review I thought. I wonder if they could have offered a sequential gearbox, similar to what Abarth did with the dog ring box in the 695 Biposto to create a stronger TCR link. Instead we're left debating mm differences in ride height!  :laugh:

They mention tyres in the article, does anyone know what they ship with as standard on the 19" wheels? The Motor Research review shows a close up with 19" Pretorias running on Pirelli PZeros and from the plate, I'm guessing that's one of the press cars as it has appeared in several articles. I'm not sure where the Michelin option exists per the article.

Its not really ride height itself that querying its the ride itself, as most, despite its leaning to track will never take it near a track and it will spend its life on UK roads - that article was more promising in terms of the DCC making the ride comfortable for the times when you are commuting around.

The DCC on my GTD was a revelation, loved it, appropriately firm in Sport and soft and cossetted in comfort

The DCC on my R was a surprise as expected the ride to be a little more compromised on the 19" Pretoria but it was opposite, where normal on the R = Comfort on the GTD and comfort on R is in fact a little too bouncy if anything. - Put that down to a lighter wheel??

But from what gleaming, you cannot make a comparison for the TCR as it maybe DCC, but its a different set up, and my hope is comfort on the TCR would be like normal on the R? if thats about right that would be great - Not overly bothered if ride really firms up in race/sport on TCR as given pressed that button then its really what seeking in sharper experience.

The other concern is the traction on getaway, as again my GTD used to tramp and thats circa 100 BHP less than the TCR

So just get an R would really be the answer but there has always been a hankering for a GTI, always been on list to tick since a kid, and personally really like this version which has a lot more style and appeal than the more capable R - Style vs practicality.

Are you perhaps over thinking it? I know it's an important decision but you want one so why not? The ride is not going to be terrible, it'll be absolutely fine and tramping can be 95% controlled with the right tyres. Since you seem to change your cars every few years it's not like you'll be stuck with it forever. I bet you'll love it :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 09 April 2019, 09:32
Poor TCR.

(https://i.imgur.com/TwyxB2x.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2K1OfA7.jpg)

:cry:

Panic over for the forums member with one on order in Grey as its LHD!  :grin:

Obviously it's fallen off the factory train. Someone's having a bad day at work...

Funnily enough, I got an email this morning from the dealer saying that the car had been built and then I saw this. Then I saw it was LHD.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 09 April 2019, 09:45
Turns out it was someone trying to steal it off the train! Could be hot property this TCR version....!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/thieves-fail-to-steal-vw-golf-gti-straight-from-car-hauler/ar-BBVJIbZ
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 09 April 2019, 11:34
Turns out it was someone trying to steal it off the train! Could be hot property this TCR version....!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/thieves-fail-to-steal-vw-golf-gti-straight-from-car-hauler/ar-BBVJIbZ

TCR - Thieves Crash Racecar?  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 09 April 2019, 12:38
Couldn’t see if this review has been shared. Suggests they should have called it a GTI Performance Plus which actually sounds pretty spot on.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/

Mentions the ride height which with adaptive dampers is 5mm lower only than a GTI P and the 20mm is ride height difference is between a GTI and a standard Golf.

Good and fair review I thought. I wonder if they could have offered a sequential gearbox, similar to what Abarth did with the dog ring box in the 695 Biposto to create a stronger TCR link. Instead we're left debating mm differences in ride height!  :laugh:

They mention tyres in the article, does anyone know what they ship with as standard on the 19" wheels? The Motor Research review shows a close up with 19" Pretorias running on Pirelli PZeros and from the plate, I'm guessing that's one of the press cars as it has appeared in several articles. I'm not sure where the Michelin option exists per the article.

Its not really ride height itself that querying its the ride itself, as most, despite its leaning to track will never take it near a track and it will spend its life on UK roads - that article was more promising in terms of the DCC making the ride comfortable for the times when you are commuting around.

The DCC on my GTD was a revelation, loved it, appropriately firm in Sport and soft and cossetted in comfort

The DCC on my R was a surprise as expected the ride to be a little more compromised on the 19" Pretoria but it was opposite, where normal on the R = Comfort on the GTD and comfort on R is in fact a little too bouncy if anything. - Put that down to a lighter wheel??

But from what gleaming, you cannot make a comparison for the TCR as it maybe DCC, but its a different set up, and my hope is comfort on the TCR would be like normal on the R? if thats about right that would be great - Not overly bothered if ride really firms up in race/sport on TCR as given pressed that button then its really what seeking in sharper experience.

The other concern is the traction on getaway, as again my GTD used to tramp and thats circa 100 BHP less than the TCR

So just get an R would really be the answer but there has always been a hankering for a GTI, always been on list to tick since a kid, and personally really like this version which has a lot more style and appeal than the more capable R - Style vs practicality.

You sound like you want a GTI. If you're going to get any GTI, I'd suggest this would be a good one to scratch the itch with.

Until someone does a back to back review comparing the GTI Performance to the TCR and R, I think we're going to be left to speculate. That said, there are sufficient variables with wheel, tyre choices and software for you to be able to get the car as you want but I'd be surprised if VW hadn't made it liveable with day to day. If the marketing is to be believed, there is a unique setup on the TCR and only driving an R and GTI PP back to back will give a sense of feel but then to ensure a fair comparison, you'd need the same wheel/tyre combination and I don't think any of the reviews are conducted with that level of rigour so are slightly subjective as road tests.

What I took away from the Motoring Research article is that the car is great on the roads that I would expect it to be good on. It won't match straight line speed with AWD on the R of course but the reviewer commented that the power/weight translated in the curves and 290 is still a lot of power for a FWD hot hatch.

I know what you mean about tramping, I have it with the GTD but it doesn't happen that often. I've more or less come to recognise the conditions where it'll occur and ease off in anticipation but it's the least appealing trait of the car. I did change the map on the GTD at one point and it was on about 220/490 but it introduced terrible torque steer and exaggerated the tramping so reversed it. I would have had to undertake a lot more tuning which I wasn't interested in spending money on but did think to check the geo and it was all over the place. I had the geo properly set by JZM and it made a substantial difference as did a change of tyres.

I too became adept with feathering the accelerator with the GTD and it does negate the issue a little but also negates the getaway as you cannot utilise all the power, though when changed tyres it did improve dramatically and so understanding what the first set of rubber and capabilities are would be good to know?

Went through first set of rubber on GTD at 13,000 miles, my R is 23500 miles and still quite a bit of wear left all around.

Can cope with a firmer ride than present, the R in race is actually ok except for worst roads, but having come from S Line Quattro do not want to go back to them crashy rides now have tasted the 2 in 1 genius of the DCC

The R is so capable, its comfortable, quick and sure footed but its quite plain and really only gets the nod from those in the know

The GTI is iconic and in this TCR form adds a little more styling presence and if I am going to scratch the itch as someone said, its probably the time to do it as doubt the MK8 has same immediate lustre and this is likely the best the GTI will be outside of the Clubsport

I have a little time still so hoping to see more real reviews and especially feedback from this forum from the early adopters and as its not a limited run I might even be able to squeeze a test drive which will ask for but have found hard to get on early runs in the past

Need also to still understand the BIK as TCR is more C02 friendly

its a real 50-50 at moment, which a few weeks ago was 90-10 but the iconic GTI is pulling at the heart :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 09 April 2019, 12:46
Couldn’t see if this review has been shared. Suggests they should have called it a GTI Performance Plus which actually sounds pretty spot on.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/

Mentions the ride height which with adaptive dampers is 5mm lower only than a GTI P and the 20mm is ride height difference is between a GTI and a standard Golf.

Good and fair review I thought. I wonder if they could have offered a sequential gearbox, similar to what Abarth did with the dog ring box in the 695 Biposto to create a stronger TCR link. Instead we're left debating mm differences in ride height!  :laugh:

They mention tyres in the article, does anyone know what they ship with as standard on the 19" wheels? The Motor Research review shows a close up with 19" Pretorias running on Pirelli PZeros and from the plate, I'm guessing that's one of the press cars as it has appeared in several articles. I'm not sure where the Michelin option exists per the article.

Its not really ride height itself that querying its the ride itself, as most, despite its leaning to track will never take it near a track and it will spend its life on UK roads - that article was more promising in terms of the DCC making the ride comfortable for the times when you are commuting around.

The DCC on my GTD was a revelation, loved it, appropriately firm in Sport and soft and cossetted in comfort

The DCC on my R was a surprise as expected the ride to be a little more compromised on the 19" Pretoria but it was opposite, where normal on the R = Comfort on the GTD and comfort on R is in fact a little too bouncy if anything. - Put that down to a lighter wheel??

But from what gleaming, you cannot make a comparison for the TCR as it maybe DCC, but its a different set up, and my hope is comfort on the TCR would be like normal on the R? if thats about right that would be great - Not overly bothered if ride really firms up in race/sport on TCR as given pressed that button then its really what seeking in sharper experience.

The other concern is the traction on getaway, as again my GTD used to tramp and thats circa 100 BHP less than the TCR

So just get an R would really be the answer but there has always been a hankering for a GTI, always been on list to tick since a kid, and personally really like this version which has a lot more style and appeal than the more capable R - Style vs practicality.

Are you perhaps over thinking it? I know it's an important decision but you want one so why not? The ride is not going to be terrible, it'll be absolutely fine and tramping can be 95% controlled with the right tyres. Since you seem to change your cars every few years it's not like you'll be stuck with it forever. I bet you'll love it :smiley:

My cars are 3 year company lease, which is pretty unrestricted in terms of the car you can choose as long as can afford it from the banding you are in. So as you say, scratch the itch, and if really an issue can return to the more pragmatic next time.

Went through front set on the GTD at 13,000 so doubt the TCR is any better, though even though lucky got decent set on the GTD its a little bit of lottery what the lease company choose, so hoping the ones provided from new are decent and I can use them as precedence at change.

Still have some time before choose so hope that little more informed come the time press the buttons.

done my diligence on the A35 AMG but discarded that, feel its inferior to even the 5 year old MK 7 despite some of the glitz its brings to catch the eye, behind the glitz, do feel its a lesser car. - Think when time moves on and the MK 7 is looked back on it will be realised just what a great model it was.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Pinky1959 on 21 April 2019, 19:49
Barnetts in Dundee have a TCR as a demo and it is on  their facebook page , Think they have a red one as well ,l worth a look.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 21 April 2019, 20:31
There’s a nearly new one on autotrader already for £29.6k.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 22 April 2019, 23:50
There’s a nearly new one on autotrader already for £29.6k.

Fishing expedition I bet. Call and I'm sure you'll get 'We just sold that one but...' See the ads says 227bhp, probably why it's cheaper!  :grin:

Mine is in the UK now according to the dealer. Just got to get it through PDI and my detailer.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 23 April 2019, 09:14
Good to see the forum back up and running :)

Lots of nice comments about this board and how rubbish it would be if this board did somehow demise on the VWROC community who only have a different flavour of the Golf and so appreciate the GTI quite a bit also.

Also be a shame for me also, as be rejoining the flock sometime in October as just ordered a Pure Grey, Reifnitz, 90% Tint TCR

The heritage lure was too much to resist having always wanted a GTI but always sidestepping it for something else, and it really was a now or never given the TCR package.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 23 April 2019, 10:45
Barnetts in Dundee have a TCR as a demo
https://en-gb.facebook.com/BarnettsVolkswagen/posts/2239828762722875
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 23 April 2019, 10:50
Barnetts in Dundee have a TCR as a demo
https://en-gb.facebook.com/BarnettsVolkswagen/posts/2239828762722875

Saw this at the weekend, and as driving an R at present and understand its AWD assured capabilities quite it was not the easiest decision to drop the AWD but given the likely rarity of this model, the heritage of the GTI that not personally ticked, and the styling which you see in them photos and I love, it was accepting some compromise in dropping the AWD but from that point on everything else was an upside for me.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 23 April 2019, 11:23
Good to see the forum back up and running :)

Lots of nice comments about this board and how rubbish it would be if this board did somehow demise on the VWROC community who only have a different flavour of the Golf and so appreciate the GTI quite a bit also.

Also be a shame for me also, as be rejoining the flock sometime in October as just ordered a Pure Grey, Reifnitz, 90% Tint TCR

The heritage lure was too much to resist having always wanted a GTI but always sidestepping it for something else, and it really was a now or never given the TCR package.

I am actually finding myself enjoying the R more now put the order in the for the TCR, so the wait is hardly going to be a difficult one as obviously there is lots to keep me happy driving the R about - My lease company let you choose early to offset delivery time issues so my change is actually in October, so its a decent wait, and I will just have to spend it seeing how you early adopters are finding the experience which think starts with you as seen nobody else state receiving one.

Depending on experience, this one might be a keeper that finds its way to second car given its a lifted run out model - we shall see.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 23 April 2019, 13:03
Good to see the forum back up and running :)

Lots of nice comments about this board and how rubbish it would be if this board did somehow demise on the VWROC community who only have a different flavour of the Golf and so appreciate the GTI quite a bit also.

Also be a shame for me also, as be rejoining the flock sometime in October as just ordered a Pure Grey, Reifnitz, 90% Tint TCR

The heritage lure was too much to resist having always wanted a GTI but always sidestepping it for something else, and it really was a now or never given the TCR package.

Excellent. I'm also pleased to see the forum returned. Some forums are just not worth the time and this one is.

Well, sounds like we have a similar spec so happy to share impressions which should only be a few weeks away.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 23 April 2019, 13:30
Good to see the forum back up and running :)

Lots of nice comments about this board and how rubbish it would be if this board did somehow demise on the VWROC community who only have a different flavour of the Golf and so appreciate the GTI quite a bit also.

Also be a shame for me also, as be rejoining the flock sometime in October as just ordered a Pure Grey, Reifnitz, 90% Tint TCR

The heritage lure was too much to resist having always wanted a GTI but always sidestepping it for something else, and it really was a now or never given the TCR package.

Excellent. I'm also pleased to see the forum returned. Some forums are just not worth the time and this one is.

Well, sounds like we have a similar spec so happy to share impressions which should only be a few weeks away.

The climate screen was the other add, - Of course there was even more options to have gone for, but given the standard specification that pretty loaded and more than enough for me.

The R lost one of its signatures when the dual DRL were rolled out across the MK 7.5 range and that was a shame, as think cars like these deserve some signature recognition and though briefly toyed with the pure white and standard wheels felt the car deserves its pure grey, reifnitz signature look.

Obviously going to be very interested in how you find yours - do expect some comments to traction and even ride as set up is a little firmer, not so much negatively, but just to existence, but will be surprised if you not loving everything else.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 23 April 2019, 19:46
There’s a nearly new one on autotrader already for £29.6k.

Fishing expedition I bet. Call and I'm sure you'll get 'We just sold that one but...' See the ads says 227bhp, probably why it's cheaper!  :grin:

Mine is in the UK now according to the dealer. Just got to get it through PDI and my detailer.

Think the company is pretty legitimate to be honest. I very nearly bought a gti a few years ago from them. The offer was quick and in writing with a list showing what stock they had. Might be a viable alternative for someone.

The tcr at barnetts has made a Twitter appearance. Looks brilliant.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 24 April 2019, 00:08
There’s a nearly new one on autotrader already for £29.6k.

Fishing expedition I bet. Call and I'm sure you'll get 'We just sold that one but...' See the ads says 227bhp, probably why it's cheaper!  :grin:

Mine is in the UK now according to the dealer. Just got to get it through PDI and my detailer.

Think the company is pretty legitimate to be honest. I very nearly bought a gti a few years ago from them. The offer was quick and in writing with a list showing what stock they had. Might be a viable alternative for someone.

The tcr at barnetts has made a Twitter appearance. Looks brilliant.

I stand corrected. When the ads are sloppy and riddled with errors, I tend to be suspicious. I tend to see them as an indicator of the level of attention to detail you're going to enjoy everywhere else in the process so if they're reputable and you know them, then it's a good deal for someone.

It looks like it has zero options and with 15% discount, seems about right. That's not deriding the standard spec which is excellent of course, I just think it's a gamble not having DCC if you've not driven the car on UK roads and I reckon that a few tick boxes will make a difference down the line i.e. launch paint, DCC.

The Barnetts car does look fantastic, I browsed their Facebook gallery the other day. Good to see a dealership posting decent pictures of the parts that distinguish it too.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 25 April 2019, 16:55
There’s a nearly new one on autotrader already for £29.6k.

Fishing expedition I bet. Call and I'm sure you'll get 'We just sold that one but...' See the ads says 227bhp, probably why it's cheaper!  :grin:

Mine is in the UK now according to the dealer. Just got to get it through PDI and my detailer.

Think the company is pretty legitimate to be honest. I very nearly bought a gti a few years ago from them. The offer was quick and in writing with a list showing what stock they had. Might be a viable alternative for someone.

The tcr at barnetts has made a Twitter appearance. Looks brilliant.

I stand corrected. When the ads are sloppy and riddled with errors, I tend to be suspicious. I tend to see them as an indicator of the level of attention to detail you're going to enjoy everywhere else in the process so if they're reputable and you know them, then it's a good deal for someone.

It looks like it has zero options and with 15% discount, seems about right. That's not deriding the standard spec which is excellent of course, I just think it's a gamble not having DCC if you've not driven the car on UK roads and I reckon that a few tick boxes will make a difference down the line i.e. launch paint, DCC.

The Barnetts car does look fantastic, I browsed their Facebook gallery the other day. Good to see a dealership posting decent pictures of the parts that distinguish it too.

Thought you might like this, the flashy press release slide.

https://presspage-production-content.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/1397/golfgtitcrbooklet-874416.pdf?10000 (https://presspage-production-content.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/1397/golfgtitcrbooklet-874416.pdf?10000)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TurboTrev on 25 April 2019, 18:36
^^^Interesting, thanks for posting.  Nice to see each anniversary/edition model is pictured and mentioned.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 25 April 2019, 23:16
There’s a nearly new one on autotrader already for £29.6k.

Fishing expedition I bet. Call and I'm sure you'll get 'We just sold that one but...' See the ads says 227bhp, probably why it's cheaper!  :grin:

Mine is in the UK now according to the dealer. Just got to get it through PDI and my detailer.

Think the company is pretty legitimate to be honest. I very nearly bought a gti a few years ago from them. The offer was quick and in writing with a list showing what stock they had. Might be a viable alternative for someone.

The tcr at barnetts has made a Twitter appearance. Looks brilliant.

I stand corrected. When the ads are sloppy and riddled with errors, I tend to be suspicious. I tend to see them as an indicator of the level of attention to detail you're going to enjoy everywhere else in the process so if they're reputable and you know them, then it's a good deal for someone.

It looks like it has zero options and with 15% discount, seems about right. That's not deriding the standard spec which is excellent of course, I just think it's a gamble not having DCC if you've not driven the car on UK roads and I reckon that a few tick boxes will make a difference down the line i.e. launch paint, DCC.

The Barnetts car does look fantastic, I browsed their Facebook gallery the other day. Good to see a dealership posting decent pictures of the parts that distinguish it too.

Thought you might like this, the flashy press release slide.

https://presspage-production-content.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/1397/golfgtitcrbooklet-874416.pdf?10000 (https://presspage-production-content.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/1397/golfgtitcrbooklet-874416.pdf?10000)

Nice, thanks for the share. Surprised they didn't have the MKV Pirelli Edition in there.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TurboTrev on 26 April 2019, 11:01
^^^ The Pirelli edition is mentioned in the Edition 30 write up.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 26 April 2019, 11:30
Good e-brochure that for the TCR. Think it doesn't have the same exhaust though as shows what looks like darkened pipes of perhaps the optional Akrapovic system which was ditched. Looks really good though, especially in both red and grey. Must say, the interior really is a step up in terms of making it look far more special than the regular GTI.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 26 April 2019, 14:43
Catchpole knows his modern Golf's having previously run a CS Ed40 as a long term test car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VumeLmzo5A
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 26 April 2019, 15:41
Order and build slot has been confirmed with October delivery - So time to park the interest and simply enjoy the R - worse things :)

 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 26 April 2019, 16:45
Catchpole knows his modern Golf's having previously run a CS Ed40 as a long term test car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VumeLmzo5A

Nice review, and though he may personally want more, the TCR hits my personal sweet spot with its all around lifts that do not spill over into the excessive.
 
His comments and general enthusiasm while driving and the noises (have read there is no soundaktor?) the TCR was making throughout the video were good to see, and his comments on the ride were reassuring - now made the choice, quite excited to be scratching the heritage itch and getting into my first GTI :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 26 April 2019, 17:19
Yet more TCR video content!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OSCSy7j8vE
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 26 April 2019, 17:42
Yet more TCR video content!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OSCSy7j8vE

Needed to test on the reifinitz wheels, as that has the adaptive , sports, suspension and the minor lift in BHP by the vmax being removed so not really a fair contest with the Type R
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 26 April 2019, 18:16
Needed to test on the reifinitz wheels, as that has the adaptive , sports, suspension
You can spec DCC separately, you don’t have to spec the 19’s to get it.

There’s at least two UK press TCR’s on the standard 18’s with DCC added.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 26 April 2019, 18:20
Ha- Type R is cheaper than a standard TCR, let alone one that is optioned beyond standard spec on the Honda.

I appreciate the aesthetics of the Type R are "challenging", but you have to admit it is a formidable car for the money.

I would like to have seen a PP 245 Vs TCR ?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 27 April 2019, 08:30
Looking at these reviews I’m becoming increasingly convinced that the tcr will be around in some form in the Mk8. Perhaps as Autocar (I think) suggested that it’s like a gti pp plus and that is meant as a compliment. As I said a while ago it feels like a trim level and not like the special editions.

It’ll be great. Also good to see that ride isn’t an issue despite all those early reviews! Looking forward to seeing some on the road soon.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 27 April 2019, 13:20
^^^ The Pirelli edition is mentioned in the Edition 30 write up.

Guilt of skimming and looking at the pictures on my phone when I posted that.  :whistle:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 27 April 2019, 13:24
Ha- Type R is cheaper than a standard TCR, let alone one that is optioned beyond standard spec on the Honda.

I appreciate the aesthetics of the Type R are "challenging", but you have to admit it is a formidable car for the money.

I would like to have seen a PP 245 Vs TCR ?

I'd like to see a real world spec / price comparison in these shoot outs. Almost all of the reviews tend to focus on MSRP (worst case) but when they talk about a value proposition, it makes a difference when you take 15% off the MSRP.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 27 April 2019, 17:44
Ha- Type R is cheaper than a standard TCR, let alone one that is optioned beyond standard spec on the Honda.

I appreciate the aesthetics of the Type R are "challenging", but you have to admit it is a formidable car for the money.

I would like to have seen a PP 245 Vs TCR ?

If it wasn't for the Halfords look of the R Type's exterior, If I was buying a TCR/R/R Type, the R type looks massively better in value for money stakes. Depending on whether the TCR gets access to 15% discount levels (inclusive of deposit contribution), it might end up about the same as a CarWow bought R type with 10% off list.

The R type seems noticeably better when driven in anger, but I'd bet it's harder to live with every day on the commute. On 20" wheels, even with adaptive suspension on the softest setting, I'd bet that the ride is brutally hard, and it's officially 20% thirstier.

It's a safer long term owner though - 5 year warranty as standard vs 3 years on the Golf that you can't even extend to 5 years as an option any more.

Not sure why VW decided to do that - Audi still offer factory warranty extensions to 5 years. For those that change every 3 years or less it's not a bother, but for those looking to keep longer, they're going to be repelled to another marque.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 27 April 2019, 19:34
A while back I went to look at the Type R, in the metal it appeared larger than the Golf, almost Passat size in it's presence. I don't need a car any larger , so did not consider it further.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sh3lldon on 27 April 2019, 20:10
my build is due to start this week coming getting excited now

good to see the forum back up
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 27 April 2019, 20:53
A while back I went to look at the Type R, in the metal it appeared larger than the Golf, almost Passat size in it's presence. I don't need a car any larger , so did not consider it further.

They appear longer.because they're a bit lower on the roofline, with more of a gradual rake to the back end. Looks less traditional hatchback than a Golf. There are 2 lower spec ones at my place of work, both in a metallic mid blue. They look a little less busy than the R type, but still pretty busy with all the unnecessary vents/fins.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: wolly440 on 27 April 2019, 21:32
A while back I went to look at the Type R, in the metal it appeared larger than the Golf, almost Passat size in it's presence. I don't need a car any larger , so did not consider it further.

They appear longer.because they're a bit lower on the roofline, with more of a gradual rake to the back end. Looks less traditional hatchback than a Golf. There are 2 lower spec ones at my place of work, both in a metallic mid blue. They look a little less busy than the R type, but still pretty busy with all the unnecessary vents/fins.

While I appreciate the Type R is a bit of an animal, it looks like it was designed by a 12 year old. Also the clip doesn't show the awful, cheap, tacky plastic interior that most jap cars suffer from
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 28 April 2019, 04:16
Ha- Type R is cheaper than a standard TCR, let alone one that is optioned beyond standard spec on the Honda.

I appreciate the aesthetics of the Type R are "challenging", but you have to admit it is a formidable car for the money.

I would like to have seen a PP 245 Vs TCR ?

If it wasn't for the Halfords look of the R Type's exterior, If I was buying a TCR/R/R Type, the R type looks massively better in value for money stakes. Depending on whether the TCR gets access to 15% discount levels (inclusive of deposit contribution), it might end up about the same as a CarWow bought R type with 10% off list.

The R type seems noticeably better when driven in anger, but I'd bet it's harder to live with every day on the commute. On 20" wheels, even with adaptive suspension on the softest setting, I'd bet that the ride is brutally hard, and it's officially 20% thirstier.

It's a safer long term owner though - 5 year warranty as standard vs 3 years on the Golf that you can't even extend to 5 years as an option any more.

Not sure why VW decided to do that - Audi still offer factory warranty extensions to 5 years. For those that change every 3 years or less it's not a bother, but for those looking to keep longer, they're going to be repelled to another marque.

The Honda leaves me cold. I'd feel an absolute prat getting out of something that looked like that so irrespective of whether it's good value and drives incredibly or not, I wouldn't even consider it as an option.

Interesting as a performance comparison but a bit academic as the TCR gives way on power so predictable results with straight line speeds (in Matt Prior's video). In terms of handling and ride quality, I think you're absolutely on the money with the R - it's going to be difficult to live with on 20" wheels irrespective of the best witchcraft in damping, there just isn't enough tyre wall to start with.

I agree that a PP vs TCR would have been a better comparison and I'm sure it'll surface in due course.

Didn't realise that VW were not doing factory extensions any more but it makes sense if they wish to drive sales of new cars and finance agreements. VAG group is suffering from the financial impact of the diesel cheat fines (nearly $3bn in the US alone) and that's why the rally team was pulled, why Porsche withdrew from WEC and so on. I'm sure a factor would have been the cumulative financial risk to the business in supporting the volume of 3-5 year old VW models. They will know take up and the problems they're getting under claims so maybe it wasn't seen as viable. They may have to rethink that strategy depending on the terms and economic impact of Brexit though. People may seek cheaper marques from new or retain their cars or even look to second hand cars and I doubt many would feel comfortable not having access to manufacturer warranty support if they wanted peace of mind.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 28 April 2019, 07:48
The most interesting thing about the Matt Prior video was he didn’t feel the honda particularly exciting or rewarding to drive. He also didn’t find it adjustable mid- corner.
That surprised me. Either he isn’t a big fan- I think he admitted as much- or it isn’t much better as a sports car than the golf.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 April 2019, 09:47


Didn't realise that VW were not doing factory extensions any more but it makes sense if they wish to drive sales of new cars and finance agreements. VAG group is suffering from the financial impact of the diesel cheat fines (nearly $3bn in the US alone) and that's why the rally team was pulled, why Porsche withdrew from WEC and so on. I'm sure a factor would have been the cumulative financial risk to the business in supporting the volume of 3-5 year old VW models. They will know take up and the problems they're getting under claims so maybe it wasn't seen as viable. They may have to rethink that strategy depending on the terms and economic impact of Brexit though. People may seek cheaper marques from new or retain their cars or even look to second hand cars and I doubt many would feel comfortable not having access to manufacturer warranty support if they wanted peace of mind.

I doubt VW were losing money over extended warranties. They still offer them on VWs in other markets (Germany being the prime example), and if they're priced right, there's no money to be lost.

Unless VWs are horrendously unreliable after 3 years now, not everyone taking out the warranty is going to be dipping into it - for everyone that bought a warranty extension, I would hope that only 5-10% have a need to claim on it.

It's either an administrative faff for VWUK, or maybe there's not enough margin in it for VWUK vs other options?

I think it's a dangerous game for VW UK to be playing. I think we're going to see more people who've bought outright keep their cars longer, and if there's a sting in the tail for keeping the car 5 years, people will look elsewhere for reassurance. 5 year standard warranties are becoming more mainstream now (even Alfa do it!).

Knowing that I intend to keep my 2 Polo GTI+ for more than 3 years, I'd have been tempted to switch to a new Audi A1 S-line with the GTI engine instead and buy the warranty extension.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 28 April 2019, 10:30
My guess is that most Vw trade in the UK is three year pcp. The extended warranty will be underwritten by a UK insurer, maybe even actually fully provided by one. For this deal to work, the insurer will be looking for volume and I don't think Vw UK customers are providing this volume because of our love for pcp
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 April 2019, 11:36
My guess is that most Vw trade in the UK is three year pcp. The extended warranty will be underwritten by a UK insurer, maybe even actually fully provided by one. For this deal to work, the insurer will be looking for volume and I don't think Vw UK customers are providing this volume because of our love for pcp

Volume might play a part for pulling it (a VW UK decision, as VW GmbH are still making it available for other markets), but the factory extension is (was) provided by VW directly- you could only spec it prior to delivery of your car. I recently had an extended warranty claim on the Golf - there was no authorisation required through a third party for the VW confirmed fault (complete loss of DAB signal). Work was authorised straight away and parts ordered immediately.

I wouldn't have though any more people buy Audis for longterm use than VWs, yet you can still get a factory warranty extension for your soon to be delivered Audi. Same parts, same likelihood of failure on that Audi.

I'm going right off VW for the way customers are getting treated aftermarket.

1. VW knowingly sold me my Polo with a safety design flaw middle rear seatbelt likely to detach in full occupancy (3 in the back). They were aware of this issue in April 18 and carried on building MQB A0 designated cars with the issue until October 18 (mine included). In the meantime, I was not informed not to use the middle seatbelt until a recall notice was issued in Feb 19.

2. Go to a dealership now and you're warned of the potential to be hit with a £60 diagnostic fee if they can't prove your reported fault. VW UK clearly aren't covering the diagnostic cost for a fault the car doesn't log anymore. The burden of proof lies heavily with the customer. I have an issue now with our Aug 18 Polo GTI+ - about half the time the car is started from cold, the virtual cockpit doesn't fire up, so I'm driving with no indication of speed. I have videoed the fault to safeguard me from the £60 charge when it goes in for diagnosis and fix next week.

3. Ask for a courtesy car now for a warranty claim and many dealership groups are now charging admin fees that amount to full blown rental charges. VW UK clearly aren't supporting the cost of maintaining a courtesy fleet for warranty purposes. My local Looker group want £12 a day "admin fee" for their "free" Up! courtesy cars, plus £5 a day "admin fee" for insurance.

The Lookers Audi dealerships don't charge, so I'd assume that Audi UK still contribute to the courtesy cars for warranty use.

It seems that VAG are trying to widen the gap again between the VW and Audi aftersales experience, not by making Audi better than it was, but by making VW worse than it was.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 28 April 2019, 12:40


Didn't realise that VW were not doing factory extensions any more but it makes sense if they wish to drive sales of new cars and finance agreements. VAG group is suffering from the financial impact of the diesel cheat fines (nearly $3bn in the US alone) and that's why the rally team was pulled, why Porsche withdrew from WEC and so on. I'm sure a factor would have been the cumulative financial risk to the business in supporting the volume of 3-5 year old VW models. They will know take up and the problems they're getting under claims so maybe it wasn't seen as viable. They may have to rethink that strategy depending on the terms and economic impact of Brexit though. People may seek cheaper marques from new or retain their cars or even look to second hand cars and I doubt many would feel comfortable not having access to manufacturer warranty support if they wanted peace of mind.

I doubt VW were losing money over extended warranties. They still offer them on VWs in other markets (Germany being the prime example), and if they're priced right, there's no money to be lost.

Unless VWs are horrendously unreliable after 3 years now, not everyone taking out the warranty is going to be dipping into it - for everyone that bought a warranty extension, I would hope that only 5-10% have a need to claim on it.

It's either an administrative faff for VWUK, or maybe there's not enough margin in it for VWUK vs other options?

I think it's a dangerous game for VW UK to be playing. I think we're going to see more people who've bought outright keep their cars longer, and if there's a sting in the tail for keeping the car 5 years, people will look elsewhere for reassurance. 5 year standard warranties are becoming more mainstream now (even Alfa do it!).

Knowing that I intend to keep my 2 Polo GTI+ for more than 3 years, I'd have been tempted to switch to a new Audi A1 S-line with the GTI engine instead and buy the warranty extension.

I'm not saying that they're losing money with the warranties but they will be auditing every aspect of the business to find cost savings. I agree that those claiming will be a small number but doubtless they've done a cost analysis and determined it's worth saving or not worth administering due to poor take up. Maybe in general, people don't take them out because they perceive the car to be reliable and that it's an unnecessary cost.

I doubt that I am going to replace any of my cars but the customer service attitude at VW and Porsche at both brand and dealer level utterly stinks.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 28 April 2019, 12:49
New car warranty 3years, some VW dealerships are offering used car warranty of 2 years.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 28 April 2019, 12:50
My guess is that most Vw trade in the UK is three year pcp. The extended warranty will be underwritten by a UK insurer, maybe even actually fully provided by one. For this deal to work, the insurer will be looking for volume and I don't think Vw UK customers are providing this volume because of our love for pcp

Volume might play a part for pulling it (a VW UK decision, as VW GmbH are still making it available for other markets), but the factory extension is (was) provided by VW directly- you could only spec it prior to delivery of your car. I recently had an extended warranty claim on the Golf - there was no authorisation required through a third party for the VW confirmed fault (complete loss of DAB signal). Work was authorised straight away and parts ordered immediately.

I wouldn't have though any more people buy Audis for longterm use than VWs, yet you can still get a factory warranty extension for your soon to be delivered Audi. Same parts, same likelihood of failure on that Audi.

I'm going right off VW for the way customers are getting treated aftermarket.

1. VW knowingly sold me my Polo with a safety design flaw middle rear seatbelt likely to detach in full occupancy (3 in the back). They were aware of this issue in April 18 and carried on building MQB A0 designated cars with the issue until October 18 (mine included). In the meantime, I was not informed not to use the middle seatbelt until a recall notice was issued in Feb 19.

2. Go to a dealership now and you're warned of the potential to be hit with a £60 diagnostic fee if they can't prove your reported fault. VW UK clearly aren't covering the diagnostic cost for a fault the car doesn't log anymore. The burden of proof lies heavily with the customer. I have an issue now with our Aug 18 Polo GTI+ - about half the time the car is started from cold, the virtual cockpit doesn't fire up, so I'm driving with no indication of speed. I have videoed the fault to safeguard me from the £60 charge when it goes in for diagnosis and fix next week.

3. Ask for a courtesy car now for a warranty claim and many dealership groups are now charging admin fees that amount to full blown rental charges. VW UK clearly aren't supporting the cost of maintaining a courtesy fleet for warranty purposes. My local Looker group want £12 a day "admin fee" for their "free" Up! courtesy cars, plus £5 a day "admin fee" for insurance.

The Lookers Audi dealerships don't charge, so I'd assume that Audi UK still contribute to the courtesy cars for warranty use.

It seems that VAG are trying to widen the gap again between the VW and Audi aftersales experience, not by making Audi better than it was, but by making VW worse than it was.

Have VW tried to get you to take their 'free' diagnostic tool? If you plug that in and give them the data log, you 'might' be able to catch the error with the virtual cockpit. Certainly, they'd have an even harder time trying to make a cost stick if you have video and have used the VWUK directed data logger.

I've had courtesy cars where I've just shown the VW dealer my insurance to prove I have fully comp to drive anything up to a specified value and that covers anything in their range. Not been levied any admin cost and the only request was to return it with similar fuel level. It might vary by group and I know two dealers within the same group that have entirely different positions which is illogical.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 29 April 2019, 14:29
Needed to test on the reifinitz wheels, as that has the adaptive , sports, suspension
You can spec DCC separately, you don’t have to spec the 19’s to get it.

There’s at least two UK press TCR’s on the standard 18’s with DCC added.

Yep, think what I was thinking was the sports adjustment on the shock absorbers that come with the Reifnitz opposed to the DCC itself being any different - The TCR also rides 5mm lower than the GTi Performance and I think 10mm lower than my present R

So you would imagine in the test on the sports suspension it may have fared a little better in the test though of course its down on BHP also

Never going to be driving mine like that and on a UK road it will be pretty quick enough for me and with a different agility to the present R on them open and twisty roads.

The ride on my R is too cossetted in comfort can actually make you feel sick as wallows, and normal and race are perfectly acceptable and on my GTD comfort on the heavier wheel was more like normal in my R - my hope is comfort in the TCR is close to normal on my R which would be perfect but if falls somewhere between normal and race that be fine also - if sport is very firm on the TCR thats fine to, as if pushing that button I probably looking for flat and firm.

19-inch “Reifnitz” alloy wheels with 235/35 R 19 tyres plus Vmax limit removal and adaptive Dynamic Chassis Control (DCC) including running gear that is lower by 20mm compared with the normal running gear (five millimetres less as compared to the GTI running gear) as well as a special sports adjustment of the front axle and rear axle shock absorbers.

Also found this interesting titbit on steering and the ride 

Tweaked EPAS software has brought with it a newfound sense of urgency to the steering, while the 5mm drop on new springs and retuned dampers means the whole car is just a little stiffer and more focused than a GTI Performance. On the road, though, you’re probably going to want to avoid the ‘Sport’ mode for the (optional) adaptive dampers - it makes the ride much too busy. Stick with the individual setting and turn everything up but the suspension, which you’ll want to leave in ‘Normal’.

VW Golf GTI TCR Review: Lovely, But We Were Hoping For More - Features
Body control is then extremely impressive, with the TCR appearing to shrug off moments on the test route close to Portimao where the road forgot to… be road. Even after hitting these dodgy bits of tarmac - which rather alarmingly do appear mid-corner from time to time - this enlivened Golf settles down extremely quickly.

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/vw-golf-gti-tcr-review-lovely-but-we-were-hoping-for-more/ (https://www.carthrottle.com/post/vw-golf-gti-tcr-review-lovely-but-we-were-hoping-for-more/)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 29 April 2019, 14:36
Just working through my spec at the moment. Has anyone gone outside of pure grey, tints, Reifnitz wheels with dcc and pan roof?

From what I read I’m not sold yet on pro nav and dynaudio and wondered what others are considering?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 29 April 2019, 14:43
Needed to test on the reifinitz wheels, as that has the adaptive , sports, suspension
You can spec DCC separately, you don’t have to spec the 19’s to get it.

There’s at least two UK press TCR’s on the standard 18’s with DCC added.

Yep, think what I was thinking was the sports adjustment on the shock absorbers that come with the Reifnitz opposed to the DCC itself being any different - The TCR also rides 5mm lower than the GTi Performance and I think 10mm lower than my present R

So you would imagine in the test on the sports suspension it may have fared a little better in the test though of course its down on BHP also

Never going to be driving mine like that and on a UK road it will be pretty quick enough for me and with a different agility to the present R on them open and twisty roads.

The ride on my R is too cossetted in comfort can actually make you feel sick as wallows, and normal and race are perfectly acceptable and on my GTD comfort on the heavier wheel was more like normal in my R - my hope is comfort in the TCR is close to normal on my R which would be perfect but if falls somewhere between normal and race that be fine also - if sport is very firm on the TCR thats fine to, as if pushing that button I probably looking for flat and firm.

19-inch “Reifnitz” alloy wheels with 235/35 R 19 tyres plus Vmax limit removal and adaptive Dynamic Chassis Control (DCC) including running gear that is lower by 20mm compared with the normal running gear (five millimetres less as compared to the GTI running gear) as well as a special sports adjustment of the front axle and rear axle shock absorbers.

Also found this interesting titbit on steering and the ride 

Tweaked EPAS software has brought with it a newfound sense of urgency to the steering, while the 5mm drop on new springs and retuned dampers means the whole car is just a little stiffer and more focused than a GTI Performance. On the road, though, you’re probably going to want to avoid the ‘Sport’ mode for the (optional) adaptive dampers - it makes the ride much too busy. Stick with the individual setting and turn everything up but the suspension, which you’ll want to leave in ‘Normal’.

Body control is then extremely impressive, with the TCR appearing to shrug off moments on the test route close to Portimao where the road forgot to… be road. Even after hitting these dodgy bits of tarmac - which rather alarmingly do appear mid-corner from time to time - this enlivened Golf settles down extremely quickly.

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/vw-golf-gti-tcr-review-lovely-but-we-were-hoping-for-more/ (https://www.carthrottle.com/post/vw-golf-gti-tcr-review-lovely-but-we-were-hoping-for-more/)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 29 April 2019, 14:52
Just working through my spec at the moment. Has anyone gone outside of pure grey, tints, Reifnitz wheels with dcc and pan roof?

From what I read I’m not sold yet on pro nav and dynaudio and wondered what others are considering?

Mine was the signature pure grey reifnitz (+DCC)  climate screen and the must have 90% tints given the rest of the black features

- would not go leather the TCR interior is very much part of the package
- Get hayfever so a sealed bubble is what desire and so no pan roof for me
- having had back to back MK 7 already the standard sound system is more than adequate and in fact is probably beyond that as for example my penthouse and pavement CD sounds pretty good (have high end sonos ad Denon in house)

Also for me coming from a MK 7, the MK 7.5 adds a few nice additions also - so for me, the TCR have specced is pretty much loaded.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 29 April 2019, 15:06
the standard sound system is more than adequate and in fact is probably beyond that as for example my penthouse and pavement CD sounds pretty good (have high end sonos ad Denon in house)
I'm sorry, everybody is entitled to their own opinion but this is not true, the difference is night & day.

The standard stereo is 8x normal paper-cone speakers with a standard 4x20w (80w max power) output driven from the main headunit (both Discover or Discover Pro).

Dynaudio is 400w (max power) sent over 9x speakers (8 speakers plus the sub), powered via a separate Dynaudio amp, not the headhunt. The front and rear speakers are 2-way sets (dual soft-dome tweeters and magnesium mid drivers), and the sub in the boot is a coil dual-voice.

I've rattled on about this many a time, but if you enjoy music and/or spend a lot of time in the car listening to music, then the Dynaudio really is a no brainer. Once you have it set-up (through the specific Dynaudio software menus in the headhunit) to your taste and sound type, it really does wipe the floor with the standard system, not to mention IMO easily beats BOSE and HK offerings I've had in other cars. The only system it's not beaten is the 1200w Meridian System I had in my Range Rover Sport, but that was 3x the power (and price!).

If you just listen to the radio around town, then it might not be for you, but was first on my ticklist as I love music and spend lots of time in the car travelling with it on. :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TurboTrev on 29 April 2019, 15:22
No one going for the black roof?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 29 April 2019, 15:22
the standard sound system is more than adequate and in fact is probably beyond that as for example my penthouse and pavement CD sounds pretty good (have high end sonos ad Denon in house)
I'm sorry, everybody is entitled to their own opinion but this is not true, the difference is night & day.

The standard stereo is 8x normal paper-cone speakers with a standard 4x20w (80w max power) output driven from the main headunit (both Discover or Discover Pro).

Dynaudio is 400w (max power) sent over 9x speakers (8 speakers plus the sub), powered via a separate Dynaudio amp, not the headhunt. The front and rear speakers are 2-way sets (dual soft-dome tweeters and magnesium mid drivers), and the sub in the boot is a coil dual-voice.

I've rattled on about this many a time, but if you enjoy music and/or spend a lot of time in the car listening to music, then the Dynaudio really is a no brainer. Once you have it set-up (through the specific Dynaudio software menus in the headhunit) to your taste and sound type, it really does wipe the floor with the standard system, not to mention IMO easily beats BOSE and HK offerings I've had in other cars. The only system it's not beaten is the 1200w Meridian System I had in my Range Rover Sport, but that was 3x the power (and price!).

If you just listen to the radio around town, then it might not be for you, but was first on my ticklist as I love music and spend lots of time in the car travelling with it on. :)

Did not actually say there was not a difference :) as have never heard the Dynaudio to compare, but do have a high end Denon with Mission speakers that played the very same CD on which now collects dust sadly (cannot bear to part with though) and have Sonos Play 1 (2 of), 3 and 5 as the main house sounds fed by paid for HQ Deezer, and all my headphones are top end, so like you love my music and the quality of  - And I said the standard is pretty good and that CD which holds up pretty well in the car environment when compare to the outlay for the Dynaudio

You are quite right though that your driving demographic plays a part as do not do that many long journeys and less so alone and passengers (usually with own headphones in!) are not conducive to upping the sound.

So not saying the Dynaudio is not good, sure it is, was more saying the standard is not rubbish as it is not and if your demographic of driving is compromised where cannot crank it up regularly and get the value it might be a saving to be had - If crunch many miles solo then of course justification increases.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 29 April 2019, 15:30
No one going for the black roof?

Its nice, would like it, but its near doubling the paint cost from £595 to £1150 and thats not justifiable unless you really have to not watch the pennies at all.

They will be a rare spec

If for some mad reason you went for the signature look they pushing of the honeycomb decals at £550 you will have added a stonking £1105!

The car looks great in the pure grey and the red and the white and only at half that price at least would anyone consider - Climate Screen and the 90% Tints was where that saving went for me - something practical and useful and an investment in additional style but nominal
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 29 April 2019, 16:41
No one going for the black roof?

Its also pretty expensive if you are getting the pan roof as its 2/3 black then anyway.  Should really be discounted in this situation!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 29 April 2019, 16:46
Anyone know what this zero cost option is:

LEDs for dynamic light assist
    Dynamic headlight control and dynamic cornering light
    LED headlamps with variable light distribution

If its zero cost why wouldn't you pick it?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 29 April 2019, 17:01
No one going for the black roof?

If anyone wanted a black roof, would make more sense to wrap it. It's a ridiculous amount of money for what it is.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 29 April 2019, 17:05
the standard sound system is more than adequate and in fact is probably beyond that as for example my penthouse and pavement CD sounds pretty good (have high end sonos ad Denon in house)
I'm sorry, everybody is entitled to their own opinion but this is not true, the difference is night & day.

The standard stereo is 8x normal paper-cone speakers with a standard 4x20w (80w max power) output driven from the main headunit (both Discover or Discover Pro).

Dynaudio is 400w (max power) sent over 9x speakers (8 speakers plus the sub), powered via a separate Dynaudio amp, not the headhunt. The front and rear speakers are 2-way sets (dual soft-dome tweeters and magnesium mid drivers), and the sub in the boot is a coil dual-voice.

I've rattled on about this many a time, but if you enjoy music and/or spend a lot of time in the car listening to music, then the Dynaudio really is a no brainer. Once you have it set-up (through the specific Dynaudio software menus in the headhunit) to your taste and sound type, it really does wipe the floor with the standard system, not to mention IMO easily beats BOSE and HK offerings I've had in other cars. The only system it's not beaten is the 1200w Meridian System I had in my Range Rover Sport, but that was 3x the power (and price!).

If you just listen to the radio around town, then it might not be for you, but was first on my ticklist as I love music and spend lots of time in the car travelling with it on. :)

I agree that the Dynaudio is much better than standard but the car as an acoustic environment isn't ideal so I have struggled to justify the cost. I'd rather save my listening for home and have the sound of the exhaust. When we're all driving sewing machines, a real exhaust note is what I think I will miss most.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TurboTrev on 29 April 2019, 18:20
No one going for the black roof?

If anyone wanted a black roof, would make more sense to wrap it. It's a ridiculous amount of money for what it is.


£500+ is a ridiculous amount of money.  It was £295 for my CS black roof (and it has a sunroof) and that was bad enough. The only thing I would say is, my mate has a wrapped gloss black roof on one of his cars and it looks good, but it's nowhere near the quality of my factory painted one.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 29 April 2019, 19:29
There’s a new TCR on autotrader for £38k. The world has gone mad!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 29 April 2019, 20:49
No one going for the black roof?

If anyone wanted a black roof, would make more sense to wrap it. It's a ridiculous amount of money for what it is.


£500+ is a ridiculous amount of money.  It was £295 for my CS black roof (and it has a sunroof) and that was bad enough. The only thing I would say is, my mate has a wrapped gloss black roof on one of his cars and it looks good, but it's nowhere near the quality of my factory painted one.

Absolutely, no substitute for paint even if it is Volkswagen's orange peel special.  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 29 April 2019, 20:53
There’s a new TCR on autotrader for £38k. The world has gone mad!

Amazing deal. You save £1,953 off the price advertised for the 30 seconds they advertised it at that price to use a saving call out on the ad.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TCR on 30 April 2019, 07:22
Just working through my spec at the moment. Has anyone gone outside of pure grey, tints, Reifnitz wheels with dcc and pan roof?

From what I read I’m not sold yet on pro nav and dynaudio and wondered what others are considering?

I’ve gone for pure grey, Pretoria’s with DCC, carbon mirrors, extra rear tints and dynaudio.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 30 April 2019, 08:55
Just working through my spec at the moment. Has anyone gone outside of pure grey, tints, Reifnitz wheels with dcc and pan roof?

From what I read I’m not sold yet on pro nav and dynaudio and wondered what others are considering?

I’ve gone for pure grey, Pretoria’s with DCC, carbon mirrors, extra rear tints and dynaudio.

Have Pretoria on my R, its a great and light wheel and looks great on the TCR - I have gone for the Reifnitz as firstly just really like them, and given most views of the TCR come with them, along with the Pure Grey they are more signature, and as have Pretoria already its just nice to have something different, and finally they are a little cheaper to.

Did also think the Pretoria is deemed as the Sport Package 2 and the tyres are the racing cup tyres, which are maybe not best for the day to day drive? I might be quite wrong but sure read that?

You obviously splashing the ££ as much as truly love the carbon mirrors as some added bling they a little too rich for me given the caps are already gloss black and look great already.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 30 April 2019, 09:07
I'd suggest btw that anyone wanting a TCR doesn't suck air through their teeth much longer.... with Mk8 production gearing starting very soon (probably during the August shutdown), if you don't order very soon you won't get one, or at least won't get a factory order - you'll be scrabbling over whatever dealer stock is around.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 30 April 2019, 09:09
I was wondering about the tyres with the Pretoria's and if they were as suitable for daily use or if they were more track focussed?

TBH I am not sure what the Reifnitz come with as standard...
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 30 April 2019, 09:10
I'd suggest btw that anyone wanting a TCR doesn't suck air through their teeth much longer.... with Mk8 production gearing starting very soon (probably during the August shutdown), if you don't order very soon you won't get one, or at least won't get a factory order - you'll be scrabbling over whatever dealer stock is around.

Hoping to have one tied up by the end of the week fingers crossed.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 30 April 2019, 09:12
Just going to ask this again

Anyone know what this zero cost option is:

LEDs for dynamic light assist
    Dynamic headlight control and dynamic cornering light
    LED headlamps with variable light distribution

It sounds like this is adaptive lights, but wondering why its zero cost or what you wouldn't pick it if thats the case?
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Post by: fredgroves on 30 April 2019, 09:23
Dynamic Light Assist is where it uses a forward camera to spot oncoming traffic and mask it from the main beam.

Its a standard option on Mk7.5 performance Golfs, along with some other bits.
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Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 30 April 2019, 09:35
Dynamic Light Assist is where it uses a forward camera to spot oncoming traffic and mask it from the main beam.

Its a standard option on Mk7.5 performance Golfs, along with some other bits.

Thanks.

Is there any negative to spec it?  If its free I would expect it to be standard rather than a £0 cost option? Does it remove something or change something else?  Sorry if this is an obvious question...
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Post by: kmpowell on 30 April 2019, 10:05
Just going to ask this again

Anyone know what this zero cost option is:

LEDs for dynamic light assist
    Dynamic headlight control and dynamic cornering light
    LED headlamps with variable light distribution

It sounds like this is adaptive lights, but wondering why its zero cost or what you wouldn't pick it if thats the case?
It's an error on the configurator, it shouldn't be there to tick.

"LED headlights with Dynamic Light Assist" are standard on the GTD/GTI/TCR/R
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Post by: fredgroves on 30 April 2019, 10:23
I was wondering about the tyres with the Pretoria's and if they were as suitable for daily use or if they were more track focussed?

TBH I am not sure what the Reifnitz come with as standard...

Are they Cups? If so, I'd probably not use those on the road... if nothing else, they aren't going to last long! If you get those, take em off and save them for a track day.
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Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 30 April 2019, 10:31
Just going to ask this again

Anyone know what this zero cost option is:

LEDs for dynamic light assist
    Dynamic headlight control and dynamic cornering light
    LED headlamps with variable light distribution

It sounds like this is adaptive lights, but wondering why its zero cost or what you wouldn't pick it if thats the case?
It's an error on the configurator, it shouldn't be there to tick.

"LED headlights with Dynamic Light Assist" are standard on the GTD/GTI/TCR/R

Thanks, makes sense now.
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Post by: TCR on 30 April 2019, 10:42
I was wondering about the tyres with the Pretoria's and if they were as suitable for daily use or if they were more track focussed?

TBH I am not sure what the Reifnitz come with as standard...

Are they Cups? If so, I'd probably not use those on the road... if nothing else, they aren't going to last long! If you get those, take em off and save them for a track day.

The prets come with the Michelin sport cup 2’s, they are fine for the road all M cars now come with them from factory also Porsche fit them to all their GT cars for the road.
The reifnitz come with Perelli PZero’s.
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Post by: Hertsman on 30 April 2019, 11:47
I was wondering about the tyres with the Pretoria's and if they were as suitable for daily use or if they were more track focussed?

TBH I am not sure what the Reifnitz come with as standard...

Are they Cups? If so, I'd probably not use those on the road... if nothing else, they aren't going to last long! If you get those, take em off and save them for a track day.


The prets come with the Michelin sport cup 2’s, they are fine for the road all M cars now come with them from factory also Porsche fit them to all their GT cars for the road.
The reifnitz come with Perelli PZero’s.

Knew about the P Zero (think they the newer Pirelli P Zero PZ4) and very happy about that as gives you half a chance - Did think the Cup 2 were more track and dry biased but if they are going on them performance cars as standard fit then that says a lot to overall abilities so sounds good and be interested to see how you find them.

If going for a FWD performance car one thing you cannot do is go cheap on the rubber thats for sure.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 30 April 2019, 11:50
I'd suggest btw that anyone wanting a TCR doesn't suck air through their teeth much longer.... with Mk8 production gearing starting very soon (probably during the August shutdown), if you don't order very soon you won't get one, or at least won't get a factory order - you'll be scrabbling over whatever dealer stock is around.

I was told that all build slots are booked and its now down to finding the dealers that have some of their allocation left - Had my official confirmation Friday but was thinking I might have missed boat and would be ordering an R for reason you state, so I second that, the door is closing.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 30 April 2019, 11:53
Dynamic Light Assist is where it uses a forward camera to spot oncoming traffic and mask it from the main beam.

Its a standard option on Mk7.5 performance Golfs, along with some other bits.

Thanks.

Is there any negative to spec it?  If its free I would expect it to be standard rather than a £0 cost option? Does it remove something or change something else?  Sorry if this is an obvious question...

If its zero on the config its a standard option - the configurator has always been a little buggy - go and check the standard kit list everything will be listed on there

This gives a good breakdown of whats standard on the GTI and then what the TCR adds, and then the options you can take

https://presspage-production-content.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/1397/golfgtitcrbooklet-874416.pdf?10000
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 30 April 2019, 11:54
I'd suggest btw that anyone wanting a TCR doesn't suck air through their teeth much longer.... with Mk8 production gearing starting very soon (probably during the August shutdown), if you don't order very soon you won't get one, or at least won't get a factory order - you'll be scrabbling over whatever dealer stock is around.

I was told that all build slots are booked and its now down to finding the dealers that have some of their allocation left - Had my official confirmation Friday but was thinking I might have missed boat and would be ordering an R for reason you state, so I second that, the door is closing.

I'd not be surprised actually to find that the same isn't true for all Mk7's now or very soon.... I'd guess 3 months to stripping out of the Mk7 production line, which is about the limit of their forward planning....
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Post by: mcmaddy on 30 April 2019, 15:03
I'd better get deciding what I'm going to do with my 7 pp. Not really feeling the mk8 shape so I'm thinking of ordering last of line 7.5 GTi or R.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 30 April 2019, 16:37
I'd better get deciding what I'm going to do with my 7 pp. Not really feeling the mk8 shape so I'm thinking of ordering last of line 7.5 GTi or R.

If you’re not too fussed on spec hold out for the end of line discounts from VW that will be in addition to the dealer discounts. I got a GTD for about £21k without trying hard with the £3250 VW incentive for mk7 run out orders added to the dealer discounts. Could’ve pushed for more but had a great P/X offer using a family Mini Cooper SD to chop in against it so it made sense at the time.
Let a few dealers know your spec and get them working on group stock orders that are close to your spec. Big savings if you’re prepared to be flexible and to be honest the standard spec is so good now then what more do you need? Plus you’ll get shot of those lovely Pilot Sports!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 30 April 2019, 16:49
I'd better get deciding what I'm going to do with my 7 pp. Not really feeling the mk8 shape so I'm thinking of ordering last of line 7.5 GTi or R.

That played heavily into my thinking, and not so much the shape, but that the drive itself would be mild evolution (would anyone notice?) and maybe some more horsepower thrown in (present BHP more than enough, certainly for me) and the revolution if we want to call it that will be in the tech of more autonomy and touch less environment (personally more averse to than attracted)

The 5 year old MK 7 GTI and R are still matching up favourably against new cars on the block, for example the A35 AMG which personally shied away from as still thought the MK 7 was the better all around car.

- Another question is how good can drives at actually get in this segment now? Maybe the hybrid would be a changer in how its harnessed and how much economy it adds as well as reducing C02 but in the actual driving experience?

The lift from the MK 6 chassis to the MK 7 was revolution, where as you think its now just going to be evolution.

So its a good argument to state the MK 7 has set the curve and is more relevant now at the end of cycle from all the linear improvements and enhancements and why go for the new when the now is still so good.

As thought so much of the present GTI and R already it became a no brainer to select the TCR given the additional TCR styling and horsepower that have become used to in my R - As always wanted a GTI it was now or never for me.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 30 April 2019, 17:41
Between now and the ~2025 end of dinosaur powered cars we're going to see what?

Certainly the Mk8 will be the last chance for a petrol powered GTI I reckon.

But what will it bring to the party?

Automation is almost certainly the answer, maybe level 4. Level 5 won't happen probably before the 5G rollout, but level 4 quite possibly on the Mk8.

Of course, the basic Mk8 won't do it, not even a range topping GTI won't without paid for options. Those options are going to cost a lot I suspect - probably taking a £34k car to over £40k by the time you've added those bits.

Will the Mk8 have better grip, better balance, less weight, more power? Probably not would be my guess.

All of the new stuff will be automation....if you want it and can afford it!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 April 2019, 18:08
I think the 8 will definitely weigh less Fred but the looks might just put people off.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 30 April 2019, 18:12
I was wondering about the tyres with the Pretoria's and if they were as suitable for daily use or if they were more track focussed?

TBH I am not sure what the Reifnitz come with as standard...

Are they Cups? If so, I'd probably not use those on the road... if nothing else, they aren't going to last long! If you get those, take em off and save them for a track day.


The prets come with the Michelin sport cup 2’s, they are fine for the road all M cars now come with them from factory also Porsche fit them to all their GT cars for the road.
The reifnitz come with Perelli PZero’s.

Knew about the P Zero (think they the newer Pirelli P Zero PZ4) and very happy about that as gives you half a chance - Did think the Cup 2 were more track and dry biased but if they are going on them performance cars as standard fit then that says a lot to overall abilities so sounds good and be interested to see how you find them.

If going for a FWD performance car one thing you cannot do is go cheap on the rubber thats for sure.

I have MCS2 tyres on my CSS and drove it through winter without a problem. Minimum operating temperature is 8 degrees so I was tiptoeing on short local trips or if it was colder, taking the GTD. They're definitely at their best in warm weather.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 02 May 2019, 21:21
My order was placed with Joe and so far service has been excellent as was deal. Not in a postion to fully recommend but so far couldn't have asked for more. Have also been dealing with a BMW dealer at the same time who wouldn't stop calling me, the no nonsense approach and pricing suited me with Joe. I hope the rest of the purchase goes aswell
I can’t fault the service so far from Joe, updates on status without me chasing etc. Different to my experience in buying an Up Gti from Inchcape last year. About a week I think until I get mine, detailed has it booked for wed-fri next week  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 02 May 2019, 21:26
My order was placed with Joe and so far service has been excellent as was deal. Not in a postion to fully recommend but so far couldn't have asked for more. Have also been dealing with a BMW dealer at the same time who wouldn't stop calling me, the no nonsense approach and pricing suited me with Joe. I hope the rest of the purchase goes aswell
I can’t fault the service so far from Joe, updates on status without me chasing etc. Different to my experience in buying an Up Gti from Inchcape last year. About a week I think until I get mine, detailed has it booked for wed-fri next week  :laugh:

Be sure to post up about it!

Who are you using for the detailing (is it via the dealer)?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 03 May 2019, 09:50
My order was placed with Joe and so far service has been excellent as was deal. Not in a postion to fully recommend but so far couldn't have asked for more. Have also been dealing with a BMW dealer at the same time who wouldn't stop calling me, the no nonsense approach and pricing suited me with Joe. I hope the rest of the purchase goes aswell
I can’t fault the service so far from Joe, updates on status without me chasing etc. Different to my experience in buying an Up Gti from Inchcape last year. About a week I think until I get mine, detailed has it booked for wed-fri next week  :laugh:

Have a long wait for mine so going to have to feed off others receiving theirs and see how their early thinking go, so share your thoughts and photos?

Whats you specification?
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Post by: AGB on 03 May 2019, 11:36
I see that Tom @ Divine Automotive has a TCR up for sale. It's a three door and with the right options. At over MSRP.

Given that the car would have been ordered the day order books open for it to get here this week (and assuming 15% discount), following the price increase, that's a decent profit on a mainstream / non edition car for someone.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 03 May 2019, 11:38
My order was placed with Joe and so far service has been excellent as was deal. Not in a postion to fully recommend but so far couldn't have asked for more. Have also been dealing with a BMW dealer at the same time who wouldn't stop calling me, the no nonsense approach and pricing suited me with Joe. I hope the rest of the purchase goes aswell
I can’t fault the service so far from Joe, updates on status without me chasing etc. Different to my experience in buying an Up Gti from Inchcape last year. About a week I think until I get mine, detailed has it booked for wed-fri next week  :laugh:

It used to be the case that not chasing for updates was normal service. Now we get to applaud someone who knows what service is!  :laugh:

My dealer said mine was in the UK but it still hasn't turned up at the dealership after a week!
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Post by: david25 on 03 May 2019, 13:14
Queue jump

£37,660

(https://img.pistonheads.com/LargeSize/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-gti-mk7-S3921770-1.jpg)

(https://img.pistonheads.com/LargeSize/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-gti-mk7-S3921770-2.jpg)

Diffuser looks big!


https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/2019-volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr--3-door-pure-grey-delivery-mileage-performance-pack-dynamic-chassis-reifnitz-wheels/9665521 (https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/2019-volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr--3-door-pure-grey-delivery-mileage-performance-pack-dynamic-chassis-reifnitz-wheels/9665521)
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Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 03 May 2019, 13:31
That looks great! Well, except for those side decals  :shocked:
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Post by: Clubsport S on 03 May 2019, 18:38
Queue jump

£37,660

(https://img.pistonheads.com/LargeSize/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-gti-mk7-S3921770-1.jpg)

(https://img.pistonheads.com/LargeSize/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-gti-mk7-S3921770-2.jpg)



Diffuser looks big!


https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/2019-volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr--3-door-pure-grey-delivery-mileage-performance-pack-dynamic-chassis-reifnitz-wheels/9665521 (https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/2019-volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr--3-door-pure-grey-delivery-mileage-performance-pack-dynamic-chassis-reifnitz-wheels/9665521)

Seems like it’s advertised for sale at £44,995 when list is £37,660.

Is it the case that 3 doors are no longer available to order?

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 03 May 2019, 18:43
Yeah. I was told no 3 door models last week. Think it’s also removed from configurator for what that’s worth.
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Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 03 May 2019, 18:44
Just wondered what thoughts are on how these stack up against the Clubsport ed40 and how they will compare in terms of future value?
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Post by: Exonian on 03 May 2019, 19:10
Just wondered what thoughts are on how these stack up against the Clubsport ed40 and how they will compare in terms of future value?

Much of a muchness really. They’ll probably follow a similar depreciation path.
Both limited runs in their own way.
The TCR newer with more kit, the Ed40 signifying a milestone (40 years and Ring record replica styling) with unique aero stuff.

What’s worth more now, an Ed30 or Pirelli?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 03 May 2019, 21:15
My order was placed with Joe and so far service has been excellent as was deal. Not in a postion to fully recommend but so far couldn't have asked for more. Have also been dealing with a BMW dealer at the same time who wouldn't stop calling me, the no nonsense approach and pricing suited me with Joe. I hope the rest of the purchase goes aswell
I can’t fault the service so far from Joe, updates on status without me chasing etc. Different to my experience in buying an Up Gti from Inchcape last year. About a week I think until I get mine, detailed has it booked for wed-fri next week  :laugh:

Have a long wait for mine so going to have to feed off others receiving theirs and see how their early thinking go, so share your thoughts and photos?

Whats you specification?
pure grey, Reifnitz pack, pan roof, climate screen, extra airbags. They come with so much as standard there wasn’t much more I really wanted. Kept it under the higher tax, otherwise the £1300 entertainment would have cost WAY more in tax over first few years, pretty much 3k. That’s another fun car price!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 03 May 2019, 21:19
My order was placed with Joe and so far service has been excellent as was deal. Not in a postion to fully recommend but so far couldn't have asked for more. Have also been dealing with a BMW dealer at the same time who wouldn't stop calling me, the no nonsense approach and pricing suited me with Joe. I hope the rest of the purchase goes aswell
I can’t fault the service so far from Joe, updates on status without me chasing etc. Different to my experience in buying an Up Gti from Inchcape last year. About a week I think until I get mine, detailed has it booked for wed-fri next week  :laugh:
detailer is one that is connected to Joe, but his work looked good etc so went with it for convenience really. Searched nearer to me and they cost (even) more. I’ve never used a detailer before, my other cars are nearer 30 years old and the Up Gti I had until recently wasn’t the kind of price or a looker that I wanted to pay for shine on!

Be sure to post up about it!

Who are you using for the detailing (is it via the dealer)?
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Post by: king monkey on 04 May 2019, 07:39
It’ll be interesting to see how prices hold up. It might link to how many they actually produce in the run out phase. Hopefully they’ll do really well.

I’ve still no discounted getting one but only once my R is a few years old. Speed limiters have ended my desire for new cars!

The grey TCR that’s being sold by Tom shows that gloss black air vents at the front would just make the car look even better for me. Would anyone pay over list for this? Not me!
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Post by: Scott465 on 04 May 2019, 09:03
1st post!! 3dr pure grey,black roof  on 18’s, sunroof, dynaudio,tinted windows, DCC on order, should be here end of June, first ever Golf GTI,can’t wait!
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Post by: kmpowell on 05 May 2019, 14:41
Seems like it’s advertised for sale at £44,995 when list is £37,660.
It's a pre-reg as well! Chancers. :whistle:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 05 May 2019, 14:44
Seems like it’s advertised for sale at £44,995 when list is £37,660.
It's a pre-reg as well! Chancers. :whistle:

Wow. I hope nobody touches it. Hate it when people do things like that. Supply and demand though I suppose.
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Post by: Yusee on 05 May 2019, 14:57
Seems like it’s advertised for sale at £44,995 when list is £37,660.
It's a pre-reg as well! Chancers. :whistle:

Wow. I hope nobody touches it. Hate it when people do things like that. Supply and demand though I suppose.

He’ be lucky to find a buyer quite that stupid.
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Post by: king monkey on 05 May 2019, 15:03
Hopefully. Then again, most people aren’t as clued up as people on here. My neighbour went into Audi and they told him that they no longer give discounts on list price. He believed them and paid list for his car.
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Post by: TurboTrev on 05 May 2019, 16:40
I would say that it's unlikely to sell at that price as they don't have the pedigree or genuine numbered limited edition appeal of the CSS, but you just never know! 
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Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 06 May 2019, 09:58
Another one ordered. Thought I better get in before the order books close. Now the wait...
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Post by: Hertsman on 07 May 2019, 12:31
Another one ordered. Thought I better get in before the order books close. Now the wait...

Though already ordered mine, mainly as knew had to get in early, do have to wait till October, so do suspect I will be one of the last to receive on here and see a few on the road before get behind wheel of mine.

Now have ordered and the more time passes, the happier am that finally joining the GTI Club as somehow found a way to avoid it all these years, it was always in the running as the next car against the 2 x Audi Quattro then the GTD was chosen over the GTI! (did a lot more miles then) and then the R was chosen over the GTI (do a lot less miles now and return to AWD and 300 BHP was too tempting) but here we are 12 years later and the TCR has finally convinced me with it being an end of run with the little lifts and tweaks that come with that - The MK7 range has proven to be a fine run and its likely the MK 8 will be a little meh so think my timing for entering the GTI heritage has been spot on, worth the wait

When are you expecting yours CookieMonster?

Think someone here gets theirs in next 2 weeks if can remember correctly?
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Post by: sh3lldon on 07 May 2019, 15:40
Mine left factory last week so hoping not too long now, I am away for a couple of weeks 26th May - 8th June so probably collect after then!

Looking forward to it!
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Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 07 May 2019, 16:11
Possibly end of August but expected start of September so like you have some time to wait. Looking forward to reading reviews from folks picking up earlier!
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Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 08 May 2019, 11:50
A guy I follow in Belgium has picked up his Pure Grey... Does look good!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxMsbOjDgvg/
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 08 May 2019, 11:59
A guy I follow in Belgium has picked up his Pure Grey... Does look good!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxMsbOjDgvg/

Saw the video this morning over my breakfast cuppa, looks awesome :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UjEO8bMnDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UjEO8bMnDQ)
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Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 08 May 2019, 12:11
Hadn't seen the YT video but that looks stunning. The rear bumper/diffuser lip is so much bigger than the GTI and really nice in gloss black. Must say, does look very different from a normal GTI and easily identifiable as a more special model  :smiley:
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Post by: fredgroves on 08 May 2019, 12:33
That does look damned good I have to say!
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Post by: boardlord on 08 May 2019, 15:26
How many normal GTi's will be running around with that rear diffuser fitted?

Pulled this info from the other forum but the price can't really be right?

Rear diffuser, £174, part no.  5G6807568AG 041
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 08 May 2019, 16:07
Think it would look odd on a normal GTI unless you get the side skirts and front lip as well which are also gloss black.
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Post by: AGB on 08 May 2019, 19:04
Another one ordered. Thought I better get in before the order books close. Now the wait...

Think someone here gets theirs in next 2 weeks if can remember correctly?

It's already here. Just organising logistics with the detailer so expect to have it on the road next week.

Identical spec to the Belgian TCR with the exception of black roof. It looks awesome but still had transit seals on.

Spoiler less dramatic than my CSS but rear diffuser is significantly larger and more pronounced at the sides. The front is quite similar to the CSS I thought. Pure Grey with the black trim does look great but of course, it was hailing when I saw it!

Think i'm going to leave the plastic on the seats so I don't have to look at the seat pattern colour. Looks cheap. Such a shame they didn't offer the buckets from the CS/CSS, I would have paid extra for them.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 08 May 2019, 19:35
Really excited for you. Looking forward to seeing the car. Seems so long ago that this thread started and Vw uk began their campaign of ineptitude.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 09 May 2019, 07:55
Really excited for you. Looking forward to seeing the car. Seems so long ago that this thread started and Vw uk began their campaign of ineptitude.  :grin:

Cheers. Despite their best efforts, VW managed to sell the cars!  :laugh: :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 09 May 2019, 09:28
Another one ordered. Thought I better get in before the order books close. Now the wait...

Think someone here gets theirs in next 2 weeks if can remember correctly?

It's already here. Just organising logistics with the detailer so expect to have it on the road next week.

Identical spec to the Belgian TCR with the exception of black roof. It looks awesome but still had transit seals on.

Spoiler less dramatic than my CSS but rear diffuser is significantly larger and more pronounced at the sides. The front is quite similar to the CSS I thought. Pure Grey with the black trim does look great but of course, it was hailing when I saw it!

Think i'm going to leave the plastic on the seats so I don't have to look at the seat pattern colour. Looks cheap. Such a shame they didn't offer the buckets from the CS/CSS, I would have paid extra for them.

Coming from R which is quite plain, quite liking the thought of the dashes of red that will accent everything and so actually like the TCR seats - Know you would like the buckets, but its not something that would personally appreciate as its seen as good that the GTI straddles the day to day use with performance abilities and styling and maybe the buckets would be just a little too much and just belong in the CSS who places its flag more firmly to the mast

But all minor preferential, think its quite agreed its a more than decent package regardless and as a few of us have a long wait still we very excited to see you get yours and do make sure share thoughts and photos. 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 10 May 2019, 09:52
Another one ordered. Thought I better get in before the order books close. Now the wait...

Think someone here gets theirs in next 2 weeks if can remember correctly?

It's already here. Just organising logistics with the detailer so expect to have it on the road next week.

Identical spec to the Belgian TCR with the exception of black roof. It looks awesome but still had transit seals on.

Spoiler less dramatic than my CSS but rear diffuser is significantly larger and more pronounced at the sides. The front is quite similar to the CSS I thought. Pure Grey with the black trim does look great but of course, it was hailing when I saw it!

Think i'm going to leave the plastic on the seats so I don't have to look at the seat pattern colour. Looks cheap. Such a shame they didn't offer the buckets from the CS/CSS, I would have paid extra for them.

Coming from R which is quite plain, quite liking the thought of the dashes of red that will accent everything and so actually like the TCR seats - Know you would like the buckets, but its not something that would personally appreciate as its seen as good that the GTI straddles the day to day use with performance abilities and styling and maybe the buckets would be just a little too much and just belong in the CSS who places its flag more firmly to the mast

But all minor preferential, think its quite agreed its a more than decent package regardless and as a few of us have a long wait still we very excited to see you get yours and do make sure share thoughts and photos.

I like the heritage nod in the Clubsport bucket seats, it's a subtle amount of Clark Plaid. In the TCR, it's a bit like opening the door to a room where they have loud trance music blaring relative to the exterior! I'm not sure they've matched GTI red exactly, looked a bit orange but likely the lighting.

I daily drive my CSS and the seats are not in any way uncomfortable so it's not like you're sitting on a sliver of lightly upholstered carbon fibre.

Other thing which I think is a bit of a miss is not offering the option of an alcantara steering wheel. It's based on the TCR and it's a cheap nod, even if they charged for it. I asked, VW said no. They can do it, it's in the Clubsport S. Admittedly, the trim is not as good as in a GT Porsche where they stitch the 12'o'clock marker versus VW who glue it. Alcantara isn't hard to maintain either - protective sealant and keep your hands clean. Hand lotion is awful to it though so probably better with leather given it's my wife's car after all!

I'll share thoughts and pictures when I finally get it, likely the week after next now as I am on the opposite side of the country at a client's offices for the whole of next week.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 10 May 2019, 10:02
Another one ordered. Thought I better get in before the order books close. Now the wait...

Think someone here gets theirs in next 2 weeks if can remember correctly?

It's already here. Just organising logistics with the detailer so expect to have it on the road next week.

Identical spec to the Belgian TCR with the exception of black roof. It looks awesome but still had transit seals on.

Spoiler less dramatic than my CSS but rear diffuser is significantly larger and more pronounced at the sides. The front is quite similar to the CSS I thought. Pure Grey with the black trim does look great but of course, it was hailing when I saw it!

Think i'm going to leave the plastic on the seats so I don't have to look at the seat pattern colour. Looks cheap. Such a shame they didn't offer the buckets from the CS/CSS, I would have paid extra for them.

Coming from R which is quite plain, quite liking the thought of the dashes of red that will accent everything and so actually like the TCR seats - Know you would like the buckets, but its not something that would personally appreciate as its seen as good that the GTI straddles the day to day use with performance abilities and styling and maybe the buckets would be just a little too much and just belong in the CSS who places its flag more firmly to the mast

But all minor preferential, think its quite agreed its a more than decent package regardless and as a few of us have a long wait still we very excited to see you get yours and do make sure share thoughts and photos.

I like the heritage nod in the Clubsport bucket seats, it's a subtle amount of Clark Plaid. In the TCR, it's a bit like opening the door to a room where they have loud trance music blaring relative to the exterior! I'm not sure they've matched GTI red exactly, looked a bit orange but likely the lighting.

I daily drive my CSS and the seats are not in any way uncomfortable so it's not like you're sitting on a sliver of lightly upholstered carbon fibre.

Other thing which I think is a bit of a miss is not offering the option of an alcantara steering wheel. It's based on the TCR and it's a cheap nod, even if they charged for it. I asked, VW said no. They can do it, it's in the Clubsport S. Admittedly, the trim is not as good as in a GT Porsche where they stitch the 12'o'clock marker versus VW who glue it. Alcantara isn't hard to maintain either - protective sealant and keep your hands clean. Hand lotion is awful to it though so probably better with leather given it's my wife's car after all!

I'll share thoughts and pictures when I finally get it, likely the week after next now as I am on the opposite side of the country at a client's offices for the whole of next week.

You likely right as far more informed than me and as much as have seen a Clubsport in photos, never to this day seen one in flesh and I do look out for them, but thats good, if owned one I would be very happy about that - think also I am coming from the R which has huge capability but style (more so the MK 7) and particularly interior are more than reserved so think more receptive to having some additional trimming

Again, looking forward to see the first one land on this forum :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 10 May 2019, 10:39
Another one ordered. Thought I better get in before the order books close. Now the wait...

Think someone here gets theirs in next 2 weeks if can remember correctly?

It's already here. Just organising logistics with the detailer so expect to have it on the road next week.

Identical spec to the Belgian TCR with the exception of black roof. It looks awesome but still had transit seals on.

Spoiler less dramatic than my CSS but rear diffuser is significantly larger and more pronounced at the sides. The front is quite similar to the CSS I thought. Pure Grey with the black trim does look great but of course, it was hailing when I saw it!

Think i'm going to leave the plastic on the seats so I don't have to look at the seat pattern colour. Looks cheap. Such a shame they didn't offer the buckets from the CS/CSS, I would have paid extra for them.

Coming from R which is quite plain, quite liking the thought of the dashes of red that will accent everything and so actually like the TCR seats - Know you would like the buckets, but its not something that would personally appreciate as its seen as good that the GTI straddles the day to day use with performance abilities and styling and maybe the buckets would be just a little too much and just belong in the CSS who places its flag more firmly to the mast

But all minor preferential, think its quite agreed its a more than decent package regardless and as a few of us have a long wait still we very excited to see you get yours and do make sure share thoughts and photos.

I like the heritage nod in the Clubsport bucket seats, it's a subtle amount of Clark Plaid. In the TCR, it's a bit like opening the door to a room where they have loud trance music blaring relative to the exterior! I'm not sure they've matched GTI red exactly, looked a bit orange but likely the lighting.

I daily drive my CSS and the seats are not in any way uncomfortable so it's not like you're sitting on a sliver of lightly upholstered carbon fibre.

Other thing which I think is a bit of a miss is not offering the option of an alcantara steering wheel. It's based on the TCR and it's a cheap nod, even if they charged for it. I asked, VW said no. They can do it, it's in the Clubsport S. Admittedly, the trim is not as good as in a GT Porsche where they stitch the 12'o'clock marker versus VW who glue it. Alcantara isn't hard to maintain either - protective sealant and keep your hands clean. Hand lotion is awful to it though so probably better with leather given it's my wife's car after all!

I'll share thoughts and pictures when I finally get it, likely the week after next now as I am on the opposite side of the country at a client's offices for the whole of next week.

You likely right as far more informed than me and as much as have seen a Clubsport in photos, never to this day seen one in flesh and I do look out for them, but thats good, if owned one I would be very happy about that - think also I am coming from the R which has huge capability but style (more so the MK 7) and particularly interior are more than reserved so think more receptive to having some additional trimming

Again, looking forward to see the first one land on this forum :)

Totally get it and can see the appeal. I like my cars with touches of colour that I can specify.

My neighbour was telling me that VW are charging £12,500 for the CS seats - some poor fella had them stolen from his car and that was the quoted replacement figure.

It prompted me to call my dealer to find out if this was true because if so, the agreed value I have with the insurance company suddenly takes on a different hue.

Now paranoid about leaving the CSS! First world problems and all.

The GTI PP or TCR in 7.5 are superb cars, if you had to have one car to do it all, I genuinely can't think of anything better at any price point.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 10 May 2019, 10:54
That used to be a problem with RS4 bucket seats getting stolen. Can't see them being £12k though?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 10 May 2019, 19:56
https://youtu.be/8svSP9Kt_AE (https://youtu.be/8svSP9Kt_AE)

Nice nod to the past with a decent uk review of the TCR with more reassurance the DCC is going to be pretty good in comfort and good f that equals normal in my R then I be very happy as that’s my default drive setting
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2019, 21:09
That used to be a problem with RS4 bucket seats getting stolen. Can't see them being £12k though?

They're probably that price purely to dissuade people upgrading. A while back, R dash trim pieces were silly money vs GTI prices - again, probably to dissuade would be modders.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 10 May 2019, 22:38
That used to be a problem with RS4 bucket seats getting stolen. Can't see them being £12k though?

No, they're weren't £12k, when I spoke to my local dealer, they quoted £13,500.

Apparently, they have to order every individual part down to nut, bolt and screw and then assemble them. Parts are £12,200. Labour is minimum 8h at £126/h but they reckoned to budget about £13,500 to be safe. As they'd never done it before.

Not making it up, I made them give me a written quote. I'll post it if anyone doubts it. Like I did!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 10 May 2019, 22:43
That used to be a problem with RS4 bucket seats getting stolen. Can't see them being £12k though?

They're probably that price purely to dissuade people upgrading. A while back, R dash trim pieces were silly money vs GTI prices - again, probably to dissuade would be modders.

They took my chassis number and I was referred by the head of sales so knew I wasn't a modder. I said it was for insurance in the event of a claim to ensure I had cover under the agreed policy. Still £13,500. They justified it on the basis that they didn't carry stocks of the assembled item and being a limited part.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 10 May 2019, 22:44
That used to be a problem with RS4 bucket seats getting stolen. Can't see them being £12k though?

They're probably that price purely to dissuade people upgrading. A while back, R dash trim pieces were silly money vs GTI prices - again, probably to dissuade would be modders.

They took my chassis number and I was referred by the head of sales so knew I wasn't a modder. I said it was for insurance in the event of a claim to ensure I had cover under the agreed policy. Still £13,500. They justified it on the basis that they didn't carry stocks of the assembled item and being a limited part.

Even Porsche who rip the ring out of such things are comparatively reasonable for replacement 918 style carbon bucket seats at about half that but then these seats are available through a much wider range of models and not in limited quantity.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 11 May 2019, 15:41
The company that I bought my Golf R vinyl door sill protectors from now sell the TCR side decals. Only £80. Thought it might be if interest to someone. My door sill protectors were really good quality too.

VW Golf TCR Honeycomb Side decals graphics Kit 5 DOOR KIT Mk7 MK7.5 Mk8 GTI GTD https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F123723804752
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 11 May 2019, 16:51
Saw a black TCR in the flesh today and love it’s lowered stance, which is much more obvious in flesh the wheels and all the features, including the 90% tint which was a little unsure of - the black is not a colour I would choose as hides features little too much and lighter colour obviously highlights but having got close up to these features really loved what saw :)

https://postimg.cc/m1PdGBJV (https://postimg.cc/m1PdGBJV)

https://postimg.cc/B8JMnxRj (https://postimg.cc/B8JMnxRj)

https://postimg.cc/k6X1fxy0 (https://postimg.cc/k6X1fxy0)

https://postimg.cc/67hbrHCV (https://postimg.cc/67hbrHCV)

https://postimg.cc/Mn79ws3k (https://postimg.cc/Mn79ws3k)

https://postimg.cc/dLTWHQ8V (https://postimg.cc/dLTWHQ8V)

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 11 May 2019, 17:06
Really not sure I like that in black.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 11 May 2019, 18:16
Really not sure I like that in black.

The stance it has is lovely and the close up the features really work but agree that the black negates them features way too much and the lighter colours will make them pop more - think the grey will look really good :)

Also you have to remember this is has just arrived and will look a lot better when prepped and in showroom

But was nice to actually see one and loved what saw aside from the colour
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 11 May 2019, 18:24
Saw a black TCR in the flesh today and love it’s lowered stance, which is much more obvious in flesh the wheels and all the features, including the 90% tint which was a little unsure of - the black is not a colour I would choose as hides features little too much and lighter colour obviously highlights but having got close up to these features really loved what saw :)


https://postimg.cc/m1PdGBJV

https://postimg.cc/B8JMnxRj

https://postimg.cc/k6X1fxy0

https://postimg.cc/67hbrHCV

https://postimg.cc/Mn79ws3k

https://postimg.cc/dLTWHQ8V

Wouldn’t choose black. All the details are completely lost.

Ps if you choose Hotlink for forums it will show the pictures not a link  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 11 May 2019, 18:26
Really not sure I like that in black.

The stance it has is lovely and the close up the features really work but agree that the black negates them features way too much and the lighter colours will make them pop more - think the grey will look really good :)

Also you have to remember this is has just arrived and will look a lot better when prepped and in showroom

But was nice to actually see one and loved what saw aside from the colour

Think the transporter grey (sorry) will look epic. There seems to be a few appearing now. Wonder how rare they’ll actually be? I never saw another edition 35 while I had mine and have only seen 3 CS on the road aside from the ones I’ve driven.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 11 May 2019, 18:47
For everyone's viewing pleasure :smiley:

(https://i.postimg.cc/Xq8tdv8M/0618-D86-E-8966-4-F27-91-E1-D90-C77-AFB022.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/m1PdGBJV)

(https://i.postimg.cc/PqwcKy4Q/1427-F24-C-1795-4-C87-99-DA-5-AD4-CADF015-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/B8JMnxRj)

(https://i.postimg.cc/63Ck6c4p/191023-BB-70-E0-43-A4-9617-A89-FAA35-A30-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6X1fxy0)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MTkk8NTL/8-C967794-F4-F6-4586-8-F76-E3-E977-B161-C1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67hbrHCV)

(https://i.postimg.cc/g25QvQv0/97460063-0759-41-C9-B56-F-0-C6-C72-B15-D03.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Mn79ws3k)

(https://i.postimg.cc/sDTt2vx7/E74-DC2-BD-8-E19-4395-97-D2-DA343-A65828-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dLTWHQ8V)

I'm not keen on the black either but it shows promise.. Apart from the door count :wink:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 11 May 2019, 19:12
For everyone's viewing pleasure :smiley:

I'm not keen on the black either but it shows promise.. Apart from the door count :wink:

Thanks Watts I will use the hyperlink next time - much easier to see!

Like said loved all the features close up and the stance is definitely more ground hugging or that was the perception- the black is like a cloak to the features though, black worked ok on the MK7 but the more the styling the less attractive the colour as you want them features to pop

But it was a good first look in flesh, very happy chose it now 😊
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 11 May 2019, 19:14
Really not sure I like that in black.

The stance it has is lovely and the close up the features really work but agree that the black negates them features way too much and the lighter colours will make them pop more - think the grey will look really good :)

Also you have to remember this is has just arrived and will look a lot better when prepped and in showroom

But was nice to actually see one and loved what saw aside from the colour

Think the transporter grey (sorry) will look epic. There seems to be a few appearing now. Wonder how rare they’ll actually be? I never saw another edition 35 while I had mine and have only seen 3 CS on the road aside from the ones I’ve driven.

Have never seen one in flesh and lookout for them, which is a good thing for owners of course
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Clubsport S on 11 May 2019, 20:00
That used to be a problem with RS4 bucket seats getting stolen. Can't see them being £12k though?

They're probably that price purely to dissuade people upgrading. A while back, R dash trim pieces were silly money vs GTI prices - again, probably to dissuade would be modders.

They took my chassis number and I was referred by the head of sales so knew I wasn't a modder. I said it was for insurance in the event of a claim to ensure I had cover under the agreed policy. Still £13,500. They justified it on the basis that they didn't carry stocks of the assembled item and being a limited part.

Did you check out with your insurers whether this had any impact ?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 12 May 2019, 08:36
Quote from: Watts link=topic=284021.msg2605414#msg2605414 date

[url=https://postimg.cc/m1PdGBJV
(https://i.postimg.cc/Xq8tdv8M/0618-D86-E-8966-4-F27-91-E1-D90-C77-AFB022.jpg)

Why black? All the accents are lost. The mirror casing looks terrible on a black car, like it wasn’t finished.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 12 May 2019, 08:43
That used to be a problem with RS4 bucket seats getting stolen. Can't see them being £12k though?

They're probably that price purely to dissuade people upgrading. A while back, R dash trim pieces were silly money vs GTI prices - again, probably to dissuade would be modders.

They took my chassis number and I was referred by the head of sales so knew I wasn't a modder. I said it was for insurance in the event of a claim to ensure I had cover under the agreed policy. Still £13,500. They justified it on the basis that they didn't carry stocks of the assembled item and being a limited part.

Did you check out with your insurers whether this had any impact ?

Checked policy, won’t be an issue but expect they would write it off and pay agreed value or scalp me on the premium the following year.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Cossieian on 12 May 2019, 11:57
My local dealer has had one in showroom for couple weeks now, been down to see it twice and it is even nicer in the flesh.
We had the chance to order one back in Feb but I backed out much to the annoyance of my wife, now that 3 door is not available to order anymore I am utterly frustrated with VW :sick:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: wantmygti on 12 May 2019, 22:26
My local dealer has had one in showroom for couple weeks now, been down to see it twice and it is even nicer in the flesh.
We had the chance to order one back in Feb but I backed out much to the annoyance of my wife, now that 3 door is not available to order anymore I am utterly frustrated with VW :sick:

No more 3 door officially? I hadn’t clocked the TCR was 5 door only.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 13 May 2019, 10:39
I hadn't clocked that either, so no more 3 door Golf on the Mk7.5 and I'm sure the Mk8 won't be either.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 13 May 2019, 10:49
How believable is the vw app at progress tracking? I just moved to ‘with the factory’.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 13 May 2019, 11:22
How believable is the vw app at progress tracking? I just moved to ‘with the factory’.

Based on the experience of others over on the Polo forum (uk-polos.net), it’s generally pretty cr@p; slow to update, and inaccurate information.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 13 May 2019, 11:58
Will take it with a pinch of salt then  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sh3lldon on 13 May 2019, 21:51
How believable is the vw app at progress tracking? I just moved to ‘with the factory’.

my dealer was far more accurate with updates than the app, he updated me right away at every stage the app just jumped from build week to in transit
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 14 May 2019, 16:20
Spotted this today at JCT Rotherham...

(https://i.postimg.cc/d0FT2G2X/Xo-W5vbs-VSKmkt-IHro98-Vig.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RWPF96bQ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/q7G6jgQ7/2-Pq-D3r-XQR6qm-9-T7u-Yhrj-Q.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7CfLLHFv)

(https://i.postimg.cc/3xmv0tvm/Ozd2b2ey-Sbe4-Ij-Atb-HWm-Zw.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PCfxBzK5)

Thoughts - looks bloody awesome! Liked the Pure Grey which I thought might not look good. Rear diffuser in gloss black looks great, very pronounced as opposed to the std plastic one on the normal GTI. Interior is lovely, feels and looks more expensive than the stock cloth. And not as orange as some pictures look. Not sure why the mirror caps are a greyish colour and not gloss black to match front lip/sides/rear etc. Wasn't keen on those.

But with options, this was £40k! I'm guessing you'd get some discount though.

Making that look pricey was this... 19 plate, white, manual, 3rd, no keyless for £27.5k.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hGbQpMcx/NHt-GAu-MORhez-Cb71x-Nhj-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CZ5KKGZL)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 14 May 2019, 16:25
That TCR is going to be £40k list.... so whacked with the "expensive car tax" for 5 years.... ouch.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 14 May 2019, 16:44
That TCR is going to be £40k list.... so whacked with the "expensive car tax" for 5 years.... ouch.
The £40k+ luxury tax is calculated on the List/RRP before OTR costs, so as that car is £40,525 OTR (according to the plinth in the picture) and a TCR has OTR costs of £1220, it'll be under.

 :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 14 May 2019, 18:27
Either way, that’s not £40k worth of car! Wow!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 14 May 2019, 19:38
Either way, that’s not £40k worth of car! Wow!

It's a massive amount! Ok, you'd hope to get a discount off.

Options on this one are Pure Grey, 19s with DCC, Pan roof, 90% tints, side decals  :shocked: , Dynaudio. Total of £5220! Soon adds up...

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 14 May 2019, 20:10
Either way, that’s not £40k worth of car! Wow!

It's a massive amount! Ok, you'd hope to get a discount off.

Options on this one are Pure Grey, 19s with DCC, Pan roof, 90% tints, side decals  :shocked: , Dynaudio. Total of £5220! Soon adds up...

Just specced that car on Vw and I got just over £41k. So I presume it would be in the higher tax band.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 14 May 2019, 20:13
Either way, that’s not £40k worth of car! Wow!

It's a massive amount! Ok, you'd hope to get a discount off.

Options on this one are Pure Grey, 19s with DCC, Pan roof, 90% tints, side decals  :shocked: , Dynaudio. Total of £5220! Soon adds up...

Just specced that car on Vw and I got just over £41k. So I presume it would be in the higher tax band.

Should be £40,525? I checked and it came out at that? KMPowell was saying would fall under. That includes VED of £530 plus assume other OTR charges.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 14 May 2019, 20:17
Either way, that’s not £40k worth of car! Wow!

It's a massive amount! Ok, you'd hope to get a discount off.

Options on this one are Pure Grey, 19s with DCC, Pan roof, 90% tints, side decals  :shocked: , Dynaudio. Total of £5220! Soon adds up...

Just specced that car on Vw and I got just over £41k. So I presume it would be in the higher tax band.

Should be £40,525? I checked and it came out at that? KMPowell was saying would fall under. That includes VED of £530 plus assume other OTR charges.

I don’t know what I talking about tbh but just added options on the Configurator. Wasn’t sure if it had a black roof. How do you calculate OTR costs? I thought it just came directly off the Configurator price. If not, it’s a total bargain. 🤔
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 14 May 2019, 20:18
Either way, that’s not £40k worth of car! Wow!

It's a massive amount! Ok, you'd hope to get a discount off.

Options on this one are Pure Grey, 19s with DCC, Pan roof, 90% tints, side decals  :shocked: , Dynaudio. Total of £5220! Soon adds up...

Just specced that car on Vw and I got just over £41k. So I presume it would be in the higher tax band.

Should be £40,525? I checked and it came out at that? KMPowell was saying would fall under. That includes VED of £530 plus assume other OTR charges.

I don’t know what I talking about tbh but just added options on the Configurator. Wasn’t sure if it had a black roof. How do you calculate OTR costs? I thought it just came directly off the Configurator price. If not, it’s a total bargain. 🤔

No full black roof, just the pan roof.

That TCR is going to be £40k list.... so whacked with the "expensive car tax" for 5 years.... ouch.
The £40k+ luxury tax is calculated on the List/RRP before OTR costs, so as that car is £40,525 OTR (according to the plinth in the picture) and a TCR has OTR costs of £1220, it'll be under.

 :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 14 May 2019, 20:20
Well that’s £555 saved. I’ll buy two then. 👍
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 14 May 2019, 20:46
Spotted this today at JCT Rotherham...

Thoughts - looks bloody awesome! Liked the Pure Grey which I thought might not look good. Rear diffuser in gloss black looks great, very pronounced as opposed to the std plastic one on the normal GTI. Interior is lovely, feels and looks more expensive than the stock cloth. And not as orange as some pictures look. Not sure why the mirror caps are a greyish colour and not gloss black to match front lip/sides/rear etc. Wasn't keen on those.

But with options, this was £40k! I'm guessing you'd get some discount though.

Making that look pricey was this... 19 plate, white, manual, 3rd, no keyless

Looks great, hope to see one in flesh soon was quite disappointed when my garage said had one and it was black!

Will see how feel about wing mirror as might get some carbon copies or gloss black replacement as sure seen many good ones recommended on here and vwroc - also might consider the Hello wind deflectors

Have also thought gloss black tailpipes be good but think stay with the GTI signature chrome

Inside looks great to me coming from the R which is classy but a splash of GTI red would be a welcomed change to add a little more cabin lustre - but nice find and near 5 months is seeming a long way away (R helps the pain though)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 14 May 2019, 21:32
The mirrors are a bit off. Like a matt grey but doesn't go with anything else on the car as far as I could see.

I got the OEM gloss black for £125 and they are lovely and so easy to fit.

You certainly won't be disappointed when it arrives! I really like the interior. Enough colour and the Alcantara is nice. The 12 o'clock marker is leather and stitched as well.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 15 May 2019, 08:49
The mirrors are a bit off. Like a matt grey but doesn't go with anything else on the car as far as I could see.

I got the OEM gloss black for £125 and they are lovely and so easy to fit.

You certainly won't be disappointed when it arrives! I really like the interior. Enough colour and the Alcantara is nice. The 12 o'clock marker is leather and stitched as well.

Highly likely that will change them out for the Gloss, and maybe even get the Gloss Hello wind deflectors as pretty much my only changes - Accept that maybe CS owners will not see the interior as much and maybe even a disappointment due to seats not being like the CS, but for someone like me, the interior is pretty decent lift over my very classy, but plain MK 7 R -

Seeing little updates like yours more regularly now and consensus is pretty much matching yours in look and style, just need AGB to get his and tell us what its like on the road, especially once past the 1000 mile mark.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 15 May 2019, 09:43
The mirrors are a bit off. Like a matt grey but doesn't go with anything else on the car as far as I could see.

I got the OEM gloss black for £125 and they are lovely and so easy to fit.

You certainly won't be disappointed when it arrives! I really like the interior. Enough colour and the Alcantara is nice. The 12 o'clock marker is leather and stitched as well.

Highly likely that will change them out for the Gloss, and maybe even get the Gloss Hello wind deflectors as pretty much my only changes - Accept that maybe CS owners will not see the interior as much and maybe even a disappointment due to seats not being like the CS, but for someone like me, the interior is pretty decent lift over my very classy, but plain MK 7 R -

Seeing little updates like yours more regularly now and consensus is pretty much matching yours in look and style, just need AGB to get his and tell us what its like on the road, especially once past the 1000 mile mark.

I agree on the gloss mirror caps, the matt looks dreadful and doesn't tie in with another texture or surface on the entire car. With a straight face, I asked the dealer if they were going to fix that in PDI. The salesman didn't know the product well enough and took me literally and it would have been socially awkward to have explained that I was kidding so I am waiting for the email to come in advising me 'that's how they come' or maybe I'll get lucky!  :laugh:

Being cynical and knowing what VAG are like, I suspect they made them look bad to up sell the carbon fibre. Outside of this forum, I am guessing that not many will know the component assembly and that it's a simple change.

Have a road trip planned up to Northumberland for the first week of June. Taking the GT4 but now my wife is making noises about taking the TCR... I am standing firm.  :evil:

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 15 May 2019, 10:01
The mirrors are a bit off. Like a matt grey but doesn't go with anything else on the car as far as I could see.

I got the OEM gloss black for £125 and they are lovely and so easy to fit.

You certainly won't be disappointed when it arrives! I really like the interior. Enough colour and the Alcantara is nice. The 12 o'clock marker is leather and stitched as well.

Highly likely that will change them out for the Gloss, and maybe even get the Gloss Hello wind deflectors as pretty much my only changes - Accept that maybe CS owners will not see the interior as much and maybe even a disappointment due to seats not being like the CS, but for someone like me, the interior is pretty decent lift over my very classy, but plain MK 7 R -

Seeing little updates like yours more regularly now and consensus is pretty much matching yours in look and style, just need AGB to get his and tell us what its like on the road, especially once past the 1000 mile mark.

I agree on the gloss mirror caps, the matt looks dreadful and doesn't tie in with another texture or surface on the entire car. With a straight face, I asked the dealer if they were going to fix that in PDI. The salesman didn't know the product well enough and took me literally and it would have been socially awkward to have explained that I was kidding so I am waiting for the email to come in advising me 'that's how they come' or maybe I'll get lucky!  :laugh:

Being cynical and knowing what VAG are like, I suspect they made them look bad to up sell the carbon fibre. Outside of this forum, I am guessing that not many will know the component assembly and that it's a simple change.

Have a road trip planned up to Northumberland for the first week of June. Taking the GT4 but now my wife is making noises about taking the TCR... I am standing firm.  :evil:

Be great if they somehow managed to polish them up to gloss in the PDI haha - imagine some young trainee being given that task :)

OEM Black Caps are a justifiable spend at circa £100 and think a must from what understand are a relatively straightforward swap if take time and appropriate care - Could get the Carbon copies, as seen these and they are very good, but actually think in this case the Gloss Black Caps are the better match

Have a road trip planned to the jurassic coast in July, around into Cornwall, so that be my R last hurrah.

Sure the TCR is going to be great and I am going to love it, but unless was taking passengers, I would still leave it parked up and take the GT4 on any roadtrip, - its out of my price band but very much on the desired list, such a great looking car and sure it drives as amazingly too  :evil:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 15 May 2019, 10:04
The mirrors are a bit off. Like a matt grey but doesn't go with anything else on the car as far as I could see.

I got the OEM gloss black for £125 and they are lovely and so easy to fit.

You certainly won't be disappointed when it arrives! I really like the interior. Enough colour and the Alcantara is nice. The 12 o'clock marker is leather and stitched as well.

Highly likely that will change them out for the Gloss, and maybe even get the Gloss Hello wind deflectors as pretty much my only changes - Accept that maybe CS owners will not see the interior as much and maybe even a disappointment due to seats not being like the CS, but for someone like me, the interior is pretty decent lift over my very classy, but plain MK 7 R -

Seeing little updates like yours more regularly now and consensus is pretty much matching yours in look and style, just need AGB to get his and tell us what its like on the road, especially once past the 1000 mile mark.

I agree on the gloss mirror caps, the matt looks dreadful and doesn't tie in with another texture or surface on the entire car. With a straight face, I asked the dealer if they were going to fix that in PDI. The salesman didn't know the product well enough and took me literally and it would have been socially awkward to have explained that I was kidding so I am waiting for the email to come in advising me 'that's how they come' or maybe I'll get lucky!  :laugh:

Being cynical and knowing what VAG are like, I suspect they made them look bad to up sell the carbon fibre. Outside of this forum, I am guessing that not many will know the component assembly and that it's a simple change.

Have a road trip planned up to Northumberland for the first week of June. Taking the GT4 but now my wife is making noises about taking the TCR... I am standing firm.  :evil:

Be great if they somehow managed to polish them up to gloss in the PDI haha - imagine some young trainee being given that task :)

OEM Black Caps are a justifiable spend at circa £100 and think a must from what understand are a relatively straightforward swap if take time and appropriate care - Could get the Carbon copies, as seen these and they are very good, but actually think in this case the Gloss Black Caps are the better match




Very easy swap and there's no need to remove the mirror glass either!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 15 May 2019, 10:24
The mirrors are a bit off. Like a matt grey but doesn't go with anything else on the car as far as I could see.

I got the OEM gloss black for £125 and they are lovely and so easy to fit.

You certainly won't be disappointed when it arrives! I really like the interior. Enough colour and the Alcantara is nice. The 12 o'clock marker is leather and stitched as well.

Highly likely that will change them out for the Gloss, and maybe even get the Gloss Hello wind deflectors as pretty much my only changes - Accept that maybe CS owners will not see the interior as much and maybe even a disappointment due to seats not being like the CS, but for someone like me, the interior is pretty decent lift over my very classy, but plain MK 7 R -

Seeing little updates like yours more regularly now and consensus is pretty much matching yours in look and style, just need AGB to get his and tell us what its like on the road, especially once past the 1000 mile mark.

I agree on the gloss mirror caps, the matt looks dreadful and doesn't tie in with another texture or surface on the entire car. With a straight face, I asked the dealer if they were going to fix that in PDI. The salesman didn't know the product well enough and took me literally and it would have been socially awkward to have explained that I was kidding so I am waiting for the email to come in advising me 'that's how they come' or maybe I'll get lucky!  :laugh:

Being cynical and knowing what VAG are like, I suspect they made them look bad to up sell the carbon fibre. Outside of this forum, I am guessing that not many will know the component assembly and that it's a simple change.

Have a road trip planned up to Northumberland for the first week of June. Taking the GT4 but now my wife is making noises about taking the TCR... I am standing firm.  :evil:

Be great if they somehow managed to polish them up to gloss in the PDI haha - imagine some young trainee being given that task :)

OEM Black Caps are a justifiable spend at circa £100 and think a must from what understand are a relatively straightforward swap if take time and appropriate care - Could get the Carbon copies, as seen these and they are very good, but actually think in this case the Gloss Black Caps are the better match




Very easy swap and there's no need to remove the mirror glass either!

Will have them ready and waiting for when arrives - All my cars are swapped out in October, so they get a thorough clean and a heavy dose of collonite and aside from a jet wash when particularly filthy (no brush) thats way it stays until the spring clean - So at the receiving point on will go the caps, the wind deflectors (going to try them, see if like them, and either keep or sale on)

was a field  service engineer before falling into the IT trap, so relatively confident on doing medium level car work so should be ok to swap them out without breaking anything, likely guided by a fellow GTI enthusiast on YouTube :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 15 May 2019, 10:30
 :smiley:

I watched a few videos before. I could do them without looking now as the carbon ones I bought were a real PITA and had zero chance of actually fitting. The OEM ones pop on and off quite easily although not in the folding in positon, fortunately!

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 15 May 2019, 14:58

Be great if they somehow managed to polish them up to gloss in the PDI haha - imagine some young trainee being given that task :)

OEM Black Caps are a justifiable spend at circa £100 and think a must from what understand are a relatively straightforward swap if take time and appropriate care - Could get the Carbon copies, as seen these and they are very good, but actually think in this case the Gloss Black Caps are the better match

Have a road trip planned to the jurassic coast in July, around into Cornwall, so that be my R last hurrah.

Sure the TCR is going to be great and I am going to love it, but unless was taking passengers, I would still leave it parked up and take the GT4 on any roadtrip, - its out of my price band but very much on the desired list, such a great looking car and sure it drives as amazingly too  :evil:

Given what my detailer has told me of the transgressions of dealer 'detailers', I'd half expect them to give anything a go. He spent a day fixing the bonnet on a Mini recently where the detailer at the dealership had burnt the clear coat with a non-orbital polisher. He said he started the day thinking a respray was on the cards and said it was a job done with his paint depth meter used every 10 seconds. Black car, customer didn't notice and when he put lights on it, then you really see it. I happened to walk in as he was trying to figure out where to start.

My best advice (if I may offer it and if it's not telling you how to suck eggs) is to get nylon trim tools and get hold of the service manual with the exploded parts diagrams so you know where to lever trim or parts. I've always been frustrated by the combination of brittle plastic or plastic and metal clips with VW trim and parts. Not that I've ever broken anything and sworn profusely to be in a position to give this advice!  :grin:

The GT4 is a great car, when you can, you should but be careful, there are strut tower failures on the 991 / 981 series platform and I have seen a few CAT D cars come back on to the market. There was one that the owner crashed after 200 odd miles and it has now come back on the market looking for a premium based on 'nearly new' condition.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 15 May 2019, 15:30

Be great if they somehow managed to polish them up to gloss in the PDI haha - imagine some young trainee being given that task :)

OEM Black Caps are a justifiable spend at circa £100 and think a must from what understand are a relatively straightforward swap if take time and appropriate care - Could get the Carbon copies, as seen these and they are very good, but actually think in this case the Gloss Black Caps are the better match

Have a road trip planned to the jurassic coast in July, around into Cornwall, so that be my R last hurrah.

Sure the TCR is going to be great and I am going to love it, but unless was taking passengers, I would still leave it parked up and take the GT4 on any roadtrip, - its out of my price band but very much on the desired list, such a great looking car and sure it drives as amazingly too  :evil:

Given what my detailer has told me of the transgressions of dealer 'detailers', I'd half expect them to give anything a go. He spent a day fixing the bonnet on a Mini recently where the detailer at the dealership had burnt the clear coat with a non-orbital polisher. He said he started the day thinking a respray was on the cards and said it was a job done with his paint depth meter used every 10 seconds. Black car, customer didn't notice and when he put lights on it, then you really see it. I happened to walk in as he was trying to figure out where to start.

My best advice (if I may offer it and if it's not telling you how to suck eggs) is to get nylon trim tools and get hold of the service manual with the exploded parts diagrams so you know where to lever trim or parts. I've always been frustrated by the combination of brittle plastic or plastic and metal clips with VW trim and parts. Not that I've ever broken anything and sworn profusely to be in a position to give this advice!  :grin:

The GT4 is a great car, when you can, you should but be careful, there are strut tower failures on the 991 / 981 series platform and I have seen a few CAT D cars come back on to the market. There was one that the owner crashed after 200 odd miles and it has now come back on the market looking for a premium based on 'nearly new' condition.

When wife Audi SLine Black Edition went in for a service recently, I was asked whether I would like it washed and that was a firm no having seen the 2 scruffy looking fellas out back with a power wash and buckets - Barely trust them to service and fix car (but do of course) but definitely not trust any of them to clean it etc. I am no detailer, do not even wash them in winter unless have to, but when I do its usually with great care and there is always a good winter coat of collonite thrown in for times not wash much.

Will take lots of care changing the caps, though will not be overly bothered about breaking the outgoing clips as doubt there is much resale value on them! (But will of course still try not to break the clips)

Have seen plenty of youtube videos of CAT D vehicles repaired and set back on the road and some are done really well and you would trust the integrity of the repair as those doing are highly skilled and reputable, but did see one repair on an Audi R8 that sent shivers up the spine as doubt it would hold up to a 5 mph bump - all well hidden repairs, looked great if looking over - criminal act in my opinion.

If could see a day when my wife, the girls and everyone else who have stakes in me decide to leave the poor fella alone financially, then maybe I could go all out on decent second hand 911 or something of that ilk, but till that never to be seen day, TCR is my level and given how happy been with the R, its not too bad a thing to be left with to enjoy :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 15 May 2019, 16:43
To those looking to replace their mirror caps. Although you don't need to remove the glass, it does help moreso when refitting so you can check the clips are on tight. There are two clips to undo behind the glass, just a flat blade screwdriver will do, no other tools needed. A good tip at this point is to make sure you have control of the cap as once the second clip is undone it can fly off suddenly and you don't want it hitting the ground! Refitting is a bit fiddly but oem ones are much easier. Non oem replacements have clips that are less flexible and prone to snapping if forced hence why I recommend removing the glass, you can see if they are located correctly or not. The other fiddly part of non-oem ones is that the side adjacent to the door often appears to turn in too far at the lower edge where it meets the surround, a thin screwdiver can lever it out as the cap finally fits, it was easy this way with my latest set.

Hope that is of use.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 15 May 2019, 18:56
To those looking to replace their mirror caps. Although you don't need to remove the glass, it does help moreso when refitting so you can check the clips are on tight. There are two clips to undo behind the glass, just a flat blade screwdriver will do, no other tools needed. A good tip at this point is to make sure you have control of the cap as once the second clip is undone it can fly off suddenly and you don't want it hitting the ground! Refitting is a bit fiddly but oem ones are much easier. Non oem replacements have clips that are less flexible and prone to snapping if forced hence why I recommend removing the glass, you can see if they are located correctly or not. The other fiddly part of non-oem ones is that the side adjacent to the door often appears to turn in too far at the lower edge where it meets the surround, a thin screwdiver can lever it out as the cap finally fits, it was easy this way with my latest set.

Hope that is of use.

Very much of use, appreciate you posting. I think there will a TCR mirror cap change thread by the time the cars have all been delivered!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 16 May 2019, 08:30
To those looking to replace their mirror caps. Although you don't need to remove the glass, it does help moreso when refitting so you can check the clips are on tight. There are two clips to undo behind the glass, just a flat blade screwdriver will do, no other tools needed. A good tip at this point is to make sure you have control of the cap as once the second clip is undone it can fly off suddenly and you don't want it hitting the ground! Refitting is a bit fiddly but oem ones are much easier. Non oem replacements have clips that are less flexible and prone to snapping if forced hence why I recommend removing the glass, you can see if they are located correctly or not. The other fiddly part of non-oem ones is that the side adjacent to the door often appears to turn in too far at the lower edge where it meets the surround, a thin screwdiver can lever it out as the cap finally fits, it was easy this way with my latest set.

Hope that is of use.

Very much of use, appreciate you posting. I think there will a TCR mirror cap change thread by the time the cars have all been delivered!

Second that appreciation, the information that have taken from these boards over the years have no doubt saved me a ton of money and hassle by making informed decisions.

Its crazy you say there might be a mirror cap thread but there actually might be as cannot see anyone seeing the caps as anything but a strange style decision and wanting to change them - just a poor VW choice? or like say deliberate? maybe to push the OEM Carbon, and now it seems at very least more sales of the OEM Gloss caps - At the circa £110 price I would not even think outside OEM and these will be waiting to be fitted the day it arrives

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 16 May 2019, 08:55
To those looking to replace their mirror caps. Although you don't need to remove the glass, it does help moreso when refitting so you can check the clips are on tight. There are two clips to undo behind the glass, just a flat blade screwdriver will do, no other tools needed. A good tip at this point is to make sure you have control of the cap as once the second clip is undone it can fly off suddenly and you don't want it hitting the ground! Refitting is a bit fiddly but oem ones are much easier. Non oem replacements have clips that are less flexible and prone to snapping if forced hence why I recommend removing the glass, you can see if they are located correctly or not. The other fiddly part of non-oem ones is that the side adjacent to the door often appears to turn in too far at the lower edge where it meets the surround, a thin screwdiver can lever it out as the cap finally fits, it was easy this way with my latest set.

Hope that is of use.

Very much of use, appreciate you posting. I think there will a TCR mirror cap change thread by the time the cars have all been delivered!

Second that appreciation, the information that have taken from these boards over the years have no doubt saved me a ton of money and hassle by making informed decisions.

Its crazy you say there might be a mirror cap thread but there actually might be as cannot see anyone seeing the caps as anything but a strange style decision and wanting to change them - just a poor VW choice? or like say deliberate? maybe to push the OEM Carbon, and now it seems at very least more sales of the OEM Gloss caps - At the circa £110 price I would not even think outside OEM and these will be waiting to be fitted the day it arrives

They do look odd as they are matt dark grey/black but hardly think it would be deliberate to make people choose OEM carbon as they are a lot extra. And gloss black is an R option and was standard on the Clubsports.

They really aren't hard to change, a flat head screwdriver is the only actual tool (trim tool) you need but latex gloves are helpful as Watts pointed out the mirror cap have a tendency to fly off so the gloves help grip! I'll see if I can do a simple video at some point.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 16 May 2019, 09:55
To those looking to replace their mirror caps. Although you don't need to remove the glass, it does help moreso when refitting so you can check the clips are on tight. There are two clips to undo behind the glass, just a flat blade screwdriver will do, no other tools needed. A good tip at this point is to make sure you have control of the cap as once the second clip is undone it can fly off suddenly and you don't want it hitting the ground! Refitting is a bit fiddly but oem ones are much easier. Non oem replacements have clips that are less flexible and prone to snapping if forced hence why I recommend removing the glass, you can see if they are located correctly or not. The other fiddly part of non-oem ones is that the side adjacent to the door often appears to turn in too far at the lower edge where it meets the surround, a thin screwdiver can lever it out as the cap finally fits, it was easy this way with my latest set.

Hope that is of use.

Very much of use, appreciate you posting. I think there will a TCR mirror cap change thread by the time the cars have all been delivered!

Second that appreciation, the information that have taken from these boards over the years have no doubt saved me a ton of money and hassle by making informed decisions.

Its crazy you say there might be a mirror cap thread but there actually might be as cannot see anyone seeing the caps as anything but a strange style decision and wanting to change them - just a poor VW choice? or like say deliberate? maybe to push the OEM Carbon, and now it seems at very least more sales of the OEM Gloss caps - At the circa £110 price I would not even think outside OEM and these will be waiting to be fitted the day it arrives

They do look odd as they are matt dark grey/black but hardly think it would be deliberate to make people choose OEM carbon as they are a lot extra. And gloss black is an R option and was standard on the Clubsports.

They really aren't hard to change, a flat head screwdriver is the only actual tool (trim tool) you need but latex gloves are helpful as Watts pointed out the mirror cap have a tendency to fly off so the gloves help grip! I'll see if I can do a simple video at some point.

Yep, agree, doubt it was actually a ploy, more me poking at how poor the choice was to go with the matte finish and giving them an escape route of financial gain, as otherwise what were they thinking?! :)

There is a couple of good videos on YouTube from similar good folk as yourself Jim, that show the tilting of the mirror and use of the trim tool, and quite carefully done, so would not want you to go to the effort for ourselves, but of course we expected no less from this forum members, and offer was still much appreciated :)

I am also going to go for the Hello Wind Deflectors, not sure if anyone else here has them, but relatively cheap but good quality gloss finish, and if really do not like them a quick removal
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 16 May 2019, 10:27
I was always going to choose 5 door, but did not actually realise there was a 3 Door Option - Hoping to see one on a forecourt near me soon - But nothing seeing is quelling the anticipation, looks good :)

The much discussed caps look quite glossy here also?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIxPvsaJXrI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIxPvsaJXrI)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 16 May 2019, 15:04
They do look odd as they are matt dark grey/black but hardly think it would be deliberate to make people choose OEM carbon as they are a lot extra. And gloss black is an R option and was standard on the Clubsports.

I was being flippant about the carbon upgrade but it's the sort of illogical thing that comes out of manufacturer marketing departments.

Changing the mirror cap doesn't bother me, having to electively pay to correct poor design does.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 19 May 2019, 11:39
Saw a TCR fresh on forecourt yesterday and again somehow managed to find another colour and not the pure grey ordered

Thoughts are now seen the black and the pure white that glad option the grey as for me there is simply too much contrast with the black and the white given there is so much black trim - it looks patchy and never really flows or blends

This had the pano roof and the black roof, personally I would have one or the other

The mirror caps were not as bad as thought but still would be so much nicer in gloss black so that’s 💯 changeover now

Outside of these preferences, and in isolation love all the lifts in styling and feel the pure grey will be the perfect backdrop and blend all the features

(https://i.postimg.cc/zDQVL2mx/910-E989-F-EDDA-4-C9-D-819-E-97-CADB460510.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mhQbJwg9)

(https://i.postimg.cc/dtTDGRww/6-A0-F6-E45-7-DDA-44-EF-9-F22-E6-D9-CF097-B3-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cr0sSnvb)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 19 May 2019, 15:23
Completely agree with you there. Not sure white really works on the tcr. Too much black trim. From what I’ve seen it’s got to be red or pure grey.

Did you get any photos of the rear lip spoiler?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: david25 on 19 May 2019, 17:22
In very bright sunlight

(https://img.pistonheads.com/LargeSize/volkswagen/golf/gti-dsg/volkswagen-golf-gti-dsg-395481505-1.jpg)

(https://img.pistonheads.com/LargeSize/volkswagen/golf/gti-dsg/volkswagen-golf-gti-dsg-395481505-3.jpg)

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Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Booth11 on 19 May 2019, 17:40
Saw a TCR fresh on forecourt yesterday and again somehow managed to find another colour and not the pure grey ordered

Thoughts are now seen the black and the pure white that glad option the grey as for me there is simply too much contrast with the black and the white given there is so much black trim - it looks patchy and never really flows or blends

This had the pano roof and the black roof, personally I would have one or the other

The mirror caps were not as bad as thought but still would be so much nicer in gloss black so that’s 💯 changeover now

Outside of these preferences, and in isolation love all the lifts in styling and feel the pure grey will be the perfect backdrop and blend all the features


Completely agree with you there. Not sure white really works on the tcr. Too much black trim. From what I’ve seen it’s got to be red or pure grey.

Did you get any photos of the rear lip spoiler?

Also agree that white doesn’t really work on the TCR, because it’s too fragmented and the fluidity of the design is sacrificed as a result of all the black.

But this (below) looks absolutely amazing! 

In very bright sunlight

(https://img.pistonheads.com/LargeSize/volkswagen/golf/gti-dsg/volkswagen-golf-gti-dsg-395481505-1.jpg)

(https://img.pistonheads.com/LargeSize/volkswagen/golf/gti-dsg/volkswagen-golf-gti-dsg-395481505-3.jpg)

(https://img.pistonheads.com/LargeSize/volkswagen/golf/gti-dsg/volkswagen-golf-gti-dsg-395481505-4.jpg)

You made exactly the right choice Hertsman.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 20 May 2019, 10:01

"You made exactly the right choice Hertsman."

Morning Rebecca

Having owned a GTD and an R you would think that there is not much left to be unsure about, but being an early adopter of the TCR you do not get to see one up close and its still a bit of a punt on the styling thats based just on videos and photos and its still a nervous moment when see in flesh for the first time as its a decent outlay for all of us no matter how paying - Having seen the white and the black I think I would have had that slight sinking feeling

Think white would be better without the black roof and so it stays predominately white and the trim is more complimentary, but there as really too much going on for the eye with this specification.

The Pure Grey does seem to compliment and blend the black and red so feeling comfortable that have made the best choice.

Sure get to see one soon on a forecourt its typical that the two most accessible to me had 2 out of the 4 colours thats not grey!

have a good day out there :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 20 May 2019, 10:14
Funny how colour makes such a difference. I couldn't have my CSS in anything but white - heritage nod to the MKI and the balance of contrast works perfectly but somehow the white on the TCR just doesn't hang together and the bodywork isn't that different. Pure Grey definitely the right choice for the TCR.

Talking of which, my detailer has finished the car and it's being dropped off on a low loader this Friday. Could have had it today but as it's my wife's car, wanted her to be here and the weather is awful until later in the week. No fun doing it in the rain. I've told her she needs to be here for a supermarket delivery - nearly got busted as she logged in to add items to the order and couldn't find any evidence of the delivery. Had to scramble a fake order. Think the detailer is quite enjoying the cloak and dagger - asked me which supermarket he should say he is from and what his delivery driver name is for when he rings the gate intercom!  :laugh: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 20 May 2019, 10:17

"You made exactly the right choice Hertsman."

The Pure Grey does seem to compliment and blend the black and red so feeling comfortable that have made the best choice.

Sure get to see one soon on a forecourt its typical that the two most accessible to me had 2 out of the 4 colours thats not grey!


I'll send you plenty of pictures to keep you going?  :grin:

I'm assuming you're in Hertfordshire, if you are, you might see ours as we park the car with the in-laws when we're in London.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 20 May 2019, 10:48
Funny how colour makes such a difference. I couldn't have my CSS in anything but white - heritage nod to the MKI and the balance of contrast works perfectly but somehow the white on the TCR just doesn't hang together and the bodywork isn't that different. Pure Grey definitely the right choice for the TCR.

Talking of which, my detailer has finished the car and it's being dropped off on a low loader this Friday. Could have had it today but as it's my wife's car, wanted her to be here and the weather is awful until later in the week. No fun doing it in the rain. I've told her she needs to be here for a supermarket delivery - nearly got busted as she logged in to add items to the order and couldn't find any evidence of the delivery. Had to scramble a fake order. Think the detailer is quite enjoying the cloak and dagger - asked me which supermarket he should say he is from and what his delivery driver name is for when he rings the gate intercom!  :laugh: :grin: :grin:

The CS styling played on the length of the car, with that long thick stripe across the lower body with Clubsport signing and the elongated rear spolier, it made for nice long lines with white still the predominant colour, great looking car - This TCR in particular with the added roof and panoramic proved more of something is not necessarily a good thing

Did the cloak and dagger on the wife A1 SLine Black Edition - As far as she was concerned it was a pub lunch at one of our favourite places which just happens to have you pass close to the Audi garage had it delivered to - So it was, an "actually as we are passing and have some time, I just want to pop in and see if there is an S3 can look over"  - Had the look of "really?! " haha and over we went.

Already had the young lad who was dealing with me onside and we just wandered in and I started to look over the S3 which knew was there (dragging it out) and testing her patience - Then I took over to one of the delivery bays citing I think a new S3 was in there pretty sure there was a polite sigh - Still having no idea it was actually hers she went, "O, I really like that"

Still dragging it out, just said, yes it is nice and started to look over it - The young lad then quietly handed me the keys and I then just handed them to her and said, its yours :)

(https://i.postimg.cc/6q0y6m1B/C1-F560-E0-78-F7-471-D-A320-BD6513-D7-DA52.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CnRFmmg2)

The reaction is worth the effort and so looking forward to hearing how it all played out and her rating on her Ocado delivery :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 20 May 2019, 10:53

"You made exactly the right choice Hertsman."

The Pure Grey does seem to compliment and blend the black and red so feeling comfortable that have made the best choice.

Sure get to see one soon on a forecourt its typical that the two most accessible to me had 2 out of the 4 colours thats not grey!


I'll send you plenty of pictures to keep you going?  :grin:

I'm assuming you're in Hertfordshire, if you are, you might see ours as we park the car with the in-laws when we're in London.

yes, the A1 corridor bordering Beds, so maybe see it flying up the A1

Looking forward to the photos of course but also what think of the drive itself - my expectation coming from the R is not much or any noticeable loss in the performance that have got used to (once moving  :wink:) and with maybe a little more lightness and engagement due to the weight reduction.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 20 May 2019, 11:40
The CS styling played on the length of the car, with that long thick stripe across the lower body with Clubsport signing and the elongated rear spolier, it made for nice long lines with white still the predominant colour, great looking car - This TCR in particular with the added roof and panoramic proved more of something is not necessarily a good thing

Did the cloak and dagger on the wife A1 SLine Black Edition - As far as she was concerned it was a pub lunch at one of our favourite places which just happens to have you pass close to the Audi garage had it delivered to - So it was, an "actually as we are passing and have some time, I just want to pop in and see if there is an S3 can look over"  - Had the look of "really?! " haha and over we went.

Already had the young lad who was dealing with me onside and we just wandered in and I started to look over the S3 which knew was there (dragging it out) and testing her patience - Then I took over to one of the delivery bays citing I think a new S3 was in there pretty sure there was a polite sigh - Still having no idea it was actually hers she went, "O, I really like that"

Still dragging it out, just said, yes it is nice and started to look over it - The young lad then quietly handed me the keys and I then just handed them to her and said, its yours :)

The reaction is worth the effort and so looking forward to hearing how it all played out and her rating on her Ocado delivery :)

I agree, I think the lines of three door are better and I find myself admiring the angles of the back of the car. It wouldn't be practical for us to opt for 3 door and I'm playing the card that the 5 door is the shell used for the TCR race car so is truer to the concept!  :laugh: :grin:

 I don't know why you'd put a sun roof in a TCR that you're positioning as a performance vehicle - all that weight up high and merging it with a black roof when it takes up half the roof seems an odd spec choice. I have seen some very weird dealer spec cars in my time though.

My wife is far too suspicious despite my best efforts and she hates surprises and likes the anticipation of looking forward to something. Good work with your wife - I imagine if you were in Audi West London, you could have spent half a day there keeping up the ruse! :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 20 May 2019, 11:46

yes, the A1 corridor bordering Beds, so maybe see it flying up the A1

Looking forward to the photos of course but also what think of the drive itself - my expectation coming from the R is not much or any noticeable loss in the performance that have got used to (once moving  :wink:) and with maybe a little more lightness and engagement due to the weight reduction.

Aah yes, the A1(M) Southbound is a regular for us on a Sunday evening.

I think the biggest difference is going to come from refinement in the cabin and the digital display coming from two MKVII analogue displays. Handling a big step up on the GTD with 100bhp but handling and dynamics will be interesting to judge relative to the CSS. I'm wondering how long it'll be before I'm allowed to drive her new baby!  :evil:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 20 May 2019, 12:08
Stuck to 3 door on 2 x Quattro and swore would never give it up and everyone will just have to keep coping but it was the MK 7 that swayed me to move to 5 doors as think it keeps its hatchback lines better than anything out there and would not go back to 3 door as the convenience has taken away so much pain not just in access for passengers but also parking as the slightly larger doors are prohibitive - If rarely have passengers then sure, 3 door all the way, but if you do and regularly then on the MK7 you are losing not much if anything on styling

hay fever kills off my need for a sunroof immediately, I like my air conditioned sealed bubble :) but it is a strange choice on the more performance models though these Golfs do straddle the daily user so I do get that also. - Certainly not on a ClubSport though for me.

The West London showrooms in general are ridiculous, all the best cars are certainly saved for them, though do not think I would personally be disturbing any salesman :)

My wife same by way, which made it more pleasurable in pulling it off - but a rare win haha,

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 20 May 2019, 12:39

yes, the A1 corridor bordering Beds, so maybe see it flying up the A1

Looking forward to the photos of course but also what think of the drive itself - my expectation coming from the R is not much or any noticeable loss in the performance that have got used to (once moving  :wink:) and with maybe a little more lightness and engagement due to the weight reduction.

Aah yes, the A1(M) Southbound is a regular for us on a Sunday evening.

I think the biggest difference is going to come from refinement in the cabin and the digital display coming from two MKVII analogue displays. Handling a big step up on the GTD with 100bhp but handling and dynamics will be interesting to judge relative to the CSS. I'm wondering how long it'll be before I'm allowed to drive her new baby!  :evil:

One of reasons looked past the A35 AMG was that moving from MK 7 there would be the MK 7.5 lifts and items taken to standard and with the red accents and trimming there be a little more lustre, even if not markedly.

Previous to my R was the GTD as at that time was doing relatively substantial mileage and definitely all the car you will ever need, as ticked every box, as performance was not actually that shabby, and obviously if doing the long runs mileage was 50 MPG readily, though in my last year as mileage dropped so did the economy as it was more 38 MPG on same demographic of driving doing now (R is about 28-30 MPG)

The engine was heavier in the GTD (or so I read) and so the GTI TCR should be much lighter in feel and with the BHP being near my R, can testify it will cover the ground much quicker, with its dry starts being recorded at 5.3 seconds on video seen, quicker than a CS I think?

My GTD really suffered with the first set of tyres, as they wore the getaway became shocking, but as soon as swapped them out that experience was transformed and given these come with P Zero traction should be pretty good.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 21 May 2019, 17:42

One of reasons looked past the A35 AMG was that moving from MK 7 there would be the MK 7.5 lifts and items taken to standard and with the red accents and trimming there be a little more lustre, even if not markedly.

Previous to my R was the GTD as at that time was doing relatively substantial mileage and definitely all the car you will ever need, as ticked every box, as performance was not actually that shabby, and obviously if doing the long runs mileage was 50 MPG readily, though in my last year as mileage dropped so did the economy as it was more 38 MPG on same demographic of driving doing now (R is about 28-30 MPG)

The engine was heavier in the GTD (or so I read) and so the GTI TCR should be much lighter in feel and with the BHP being near my R, can testify it will cover the ground much quicker, with its dry starts being recorded at 5.3 seconds on video seen, quicker than a CS I think?

My GTD really suffered with the first set of tyres, as they wore the getaway became shocking, but as soon as swapped them out that experience was transformed and given these come with P Zero traction should be pretty good.

I agree with Mercedes, the A45 was a bit too current Honda Civic with that wing and I think the A35 isn't worth it relative to the TCR or R. I was behind one on the M1 yesterday and the styling is a bit meah. I don't know if you have better luck than me but I have gone into a Mercedes dealer 3 times about 3 different cars and the experience has been abysmal. I was looking at an SLS on one occasion and I was referred to the dealership in Chelsea - Cheyne Walk I think. They were very willing to do a test drive but the salesman said that we'd likely not get out of first gear. I asked if we could arrange something at Brooklands, even offering to pay and have it credited against a purchase. 'That'll be difficult, sir' was the reply.

I have some pictures that I shot the other day pre-detail and I'll upload them this evening - they show the difference between the CSS and TCR. Maybe more interesting than the standard beauty shots on the Internet.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 21 May 2019, 19:01
I thought this thread needed a few more pictures. I took these before the car went off to the detailer but it really needs a proper clean. Also having our drive graded and resurfaced properly after the developer's incompetent attempts so feel a sense of achievement in having missed the earth moving equipment from the shots! The paint had the surface texture of sandpaper after shipping and production, I think the matt mirrors were smoother than the paint.

Dealer did as I asked and left the car entirely sealed including the roof and bonnet covers. I checked the car with a Scangrip inspection lamp and it's in pretty good condition. Orange peel all over it as I have come to expect from VW (particularly on C pillar) and there are a couple of sanding marks and a few light swirls which could be from the protective covers rubbing on corners. Minor work with an orbital polisher and actually a good colour to work on - hides the dirt well but enough contrast to work on unlike white which washes out with hot spots and makes it hard to inspect with directional inspection lights.

Given how pronounced the rear diffuser is, I'm thinking of putting some PPF on to it as it's going to suck up muck and be a nightmare to keep scratch free without a level of polishing and care that life is too short for.

Only initial impressions of the car (while keeping the revs down) is that the steering is very light. The exhaust doesn't have the crackle and pops of the CSS and sounds quite muted. Whether it'll bed in and become a bit more throaty remains to be seen but I've run it through all modes including sport. I'll post some pictures of the CSS and TCR together this weekend.

Vinyl TCR on the door is subtle and understated. I didn't go for the shouty hexagon decals. Looks really good.

Arrived on Pirellis so will swap out for Michelin CS2s. I guess the Pretoria only get the CS2s ex factory.

Shot with the GT4 which is a paint to sample colour - 7A1 Grey Black for comparison. Pure Grey has a bit more blue in it (colder) and in direct sunlight, is a bit darker than Audi's Nardo Grey but tone is very similar. Grey Black is much warmer in sunlight.

If anyone is considering one, you won't go wrong with Pure Grey. If anyone wants any pictures or images of spec choices, happy to take them for you, just comment and I'll do them this weekend.

(https://i.imgur.com/pGai8Wa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5uWS6Ke.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/szjfG7u.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pG1HfVl.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Clubsport S on 21 May 2019, 19:16

yes, the A1 corridor bordering Beds, so maybe see it flying up the A1

Looking forward to the photos of course but also what think of the drive itself - my expectation coming from the R is not much or any noticeable loss in the performance that have got used to (once moving  :wink:) and with maybe a little more lightness and engagement due to the weight reduction.

Aah yes, the A1(M) Southbound is a regular for us on a Sunday evening.

I think the biggest difference is going to come from refinement in the cabin and the digital display coming from two MKVII analogue displays. Handling a big step up on the GTD with 100bhp but handling and dynamics will be interesting to judge relative to the CSS. I'm wondering how long it'll be before I'm allowed to drive her new baby!  :evil:

One of reasons looked past the A35 AMG was that moving from MK 7 there would be the MK 7.5 lifts and items taken to standard and with the red accents and trimming there be a little more lustre, even if not markedly.

Previous to my R was the GTD as at that time was doing relatively substantial mileage and definitely all the car you will ever need, as ticked every box, as performance was not actually that shabby, and obviously if doing the long runs mileage was 50 MPG readily, though in my last year as mileage dropped so did the economy as it was more 38 MPG on same demographic of driving doing now (R is about 28-30 MPG)

The engine was heavier in the GTD (or so I read) and so the GTI TCR should be much lighter in feel and with the BHP being near my R, can testify it will cover the ground much quicker, with its dry starts being recorded at 5.3 seconds on video seen, quicker than a CS I think?

My GTD really suffered with the first set of tyres, as they wore the getaway became shocking, but as soon as swapped them out that experience was transformed and given these come with P Zero traction should be pretty good.


Looking forward to seeing some pics of the CSS and TCR together!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Clubsport S on 21 May 2019, 19:18
I thought this thread needed a few more pictures. I took these before the car went off to the detailer but it really needs a proper clean. Also having our drive graded and resurfaced properly after the developer's incompetent attempts so feel a sense of achievement in having missed the earth moving equipment from the shots! The paint had the surface texture of sandpaper after shipping and production, I think the matt mirrors were smoother than the paint.

Dealer did as I asked and left the car entirely sealed including the roof and bonnet covers. I checked the car with a Scangrip inspection lamp and it's in pretty good condition. Orange peel all over it as I have come to expect from VW (particularly on C pillar) and there are a couple of sanding marks and a few light swirls which could be from the protective covers rubbing on corners. Minor work with an orbital polisher and actually a good colour to work on - hides the dirt well but enough contrast to work on unlike white which washes out with hot spots and makes it hard to inspect with directional inspection lights.

Given how pronounced the rear diffuser is, I'm thinking of putting some PPF on to it as it's going to suck up muck and be a nightmare to keep scratch free without a level of polishing and care that life is too short for.

Only initial impressions of the car (while keeping the revs down) is that the steering is very light. The exhaust doesn't have the crackle and pops of the CSS and sounds quite muted. Whether it'll bed in and become a bit more throaty remains to be seen but I've run it through all modes including sport. I'll post some pictures of the CSS and TCR together this weekend.

Vinyl TCR on the door is subtle and understated. I didn't go for the shouty hexagon decals. Looks really good.

Arrived on Pirellis so will swap out for Michelin CS2s. I guess the Pretoria only get the CS2s ex factory.

Shot with the GT4 which is a paint to sample colour - 7A1 Grey Black for comparison. Pure Grey has a bit more blue in it (colder) and in direct sunlight, is a bit darker than Audi's Nardo Grey but tone is very similar. Grey Black is much warmer in sunlight.

If anyone is considering one, you won't go wrong with Pure Grey. If anyone wants any pictures or images of spec choices, happy to take them for you, just comment and I'll do them this weekend.

(https://i.imgur.com/pGai8Wa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5uWS6Ke.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/szjfG7u.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pG1HfVl.jpg)


Looking forward to seeing some pics of the CSS and TCR together  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: andy28 on 21 May 2019, 19:54
Looks great AGB! Can't wait to see the post-detail pics.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TCR on 21 May 2019, 20:11
I thought this thread needed a few more pictures. I took these before the car went off to the detailer but it really needs a proper clean. Also having our drive graded and resurfaced properly after the developer's incompetent attempts so feel a sense of achievement in having missed the earth moving equipment from the shots! The paint had the surface texture of sandpaper after shipping and production, I think the matt mirrors were smoother than the paint.

Dealer did as I asked and left the car entirely sealed including the roof and bonnet covers. I checked the car with a Scangrip inspection lamp and it's in pretty good condition. Orange peel all over it as I have come to expect from VW (particularly on C pillar) and there are a couple of sanding marks and a few light swirls which could be from the protective covers rubbing on corners. Minor work with an orbital polisher and actually a good colour to work on - hides the dirt well but enough contrast to work on unlike white which washes out with hot spots and makes it hard to inspect with directional inspection lights.

Given how pronounced the rear diffuser is, I'm thinking of putting some PPF on to it as it's going to suck up muck and be a nightmare to keep scratch free without a level of polishing and care that life is too short for.

Only initial impressions of the car (while keeping the revs down) is that the steering is very light. The exhaust doesn't have the crackle and pops of the CSS and sounds quite muted. Whether it'll bed in and become a bit more throaty remains to be seen but I've run it through all modes including sport. I'll post some pictures of the CSS and TCR together this weekend.

Vinyl TCR on the door is subtle and understated. I didn't go for the shouty hexagon decals. Looks really good.

Arrived on Pirellis so will swap out for Michelin CS2s. I guess the Pretoria only get the CS2s ex factory.

Shot with the GT4 which is a paint to sample colour - 7A1 Grey Black for comparison. Pure Grey has a bit more blue in it (colder) and in direct sunlight, is a bit darker than Audi's Nardo Grey but tone is very similar. Grey Black is much warmer in sunlight.

If anyone is considering one, you won't go wrong with Pure Grey. If anyone wants any pictures or images of spec choices, happy to take them for you, just comment and I'll do them this weekend.

(https://i.imgur.com/pGai8Wa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5uWS6Ke.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/szjfG7u.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pG1HfVl.jpg)

Looks soo good mate, cannot wait for mine to get here. I ordered mine at the end of feb and they have only just confirmed my build date. 10/06
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 21 May 2019, 20:16
That looks rubbish. You must gutted. 😜
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 May 2019, 20:46
Looks great! You are right about the rear diffuser, looks massive and gloss black it will be almost impossible not get some scratches on it. PPF is a good idea!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 21 May 2019, 21:30
Looking forward to seeing some pics of the CSS and TCR together!

Comparing the two, the rear diffuser is a lot more aggressive on the TCR but the rear spoiler is quite small, looks not dissimilar to the GTI PP with a gurney flap added. I'll do some comparison shots but you can see from the picture below. Front is similar to the CSS, just the central area which appears to be different from a styling point of view.

(https://i.imgur.com/H8ZoMff.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 21 May 2019, 21:40
Looks great! You are right about the rear diffuser, looks massive and gloss black it will be almost impossible not get some scratches on it. PPF is a good idea!

I just did this snap on my iPhone so the angle is broadly similar but it shows the difference in the rear of the CSS and TCR. I suspect there won't be a cutting pattern for the PPF in Xpel yet.

(https://i.imgur.com/P2p6DNM.jpg)

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 21 May 2019, 21:45
Looks great AGB! Can't wait to see the post-detail pics.

You mean you don't like the tape and protective covers? I'm offended!  :grin: :cry: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 21 May 2019, 21:47
That looks rubbish. You must gutted. 😜

I know. I came on the forum for some consolation after having made such an error in judgement.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 22 May 2019, 06:05
That looks rubbish. You must gutted. 😜

I know. I came on the forum for some consolation after having made such an error in judgement.  :grin:

Ha ha! The car looks absolutely amazing. Really pleased for you. See what you mean about the rear diffuser. Definitely needs to kind of protection. A wise investment.

Good to see a close up photo of the spoiler lip. I’m still struggling to get hold of one. Do you think it’s too subtle?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 22 May 2019, 07:49

One of reasons looked past the A35 AMG was that moving from MK 7 there would be the MK 7.5 lifts and items taken to standard and with the red accents and trimming there be a little more lustre, even if not markedly.

Previous to my R was the GTD as at that time was doing relatively substantial mileage and definitely all the car you will ever need, as ticked every box, as performance was not actually that shabby, and obviously if doing the long runs mileage was 50 MPG readily, though in my last year as mileage dropped so did the economy as it was more 38 MPG on same demographic of driving doing now (R is about 28-30 MPG)

The engine was heavier in the GTD (or so I read) and so the GTI TCR should be much lighter in feel and with the BHP being near my R, can testify it will cover the ground much quicker, with its dry starts being recorded at 5.3 seconds on video seen, quicker than a CS I think?

My GTD really suffered with the first set of tyres, as they wore the getaway became shocking, but as soon as swapped them out that experience was transformed and given these come with P Zero traction should be pretty good.

I agree with Mercedes, the A45 was a bit too current Honda Civic with that wing and I think the A35 isn't worth it relative to the TCR or R. I was behind one on the M1 yesterday and the styling is a bit meah. I don't know if you have better luck than me but I have gone into a Mercedes dealer 3 times about 3 different cars and the experience has been abysmal. I was looking at an SLS on one occasion and I was referred to the dealership in Chelsea - Cheyne Walk I think. They were very willing to do a test drive but the salesman said that we'd likely not get out of first gear. I asked if we could arrange something at Brooklands, even offering to pay and have it credited against a purchase. 'That'll be difficult, sir' was the reply.

I have some pictures that I shot the other day pre-detail and I'll upload them this evening - they show the difference between the CSS and TCR. Maybe more interesting than the standard beauty shots on the Internet.

My Mercedes experience was being completely ignored on my first visit, avoided even as suspect I was in my coaching gear (it was an impromptu drop in on way back from a game) and so I was obviously being seen as someone walking in off the street who has no right to purchase a Mercedes (that was the feeling anyway)

Second time I walked in all suited and booted having just come back from a work day in London and yes you guessed it, was fending them off!

As discussion started it soon became obvious that I knew far more about the A35 AMG than him and even embarrassingly so really as even some of the basics the gentleman was struggling on - He sort of had the attitude of look at it, it sales itself so why would you want to know about all this other stuff.

Fortunately I made the decision that this A35 AMG is not for me this time around and to let others be the early adopters and maybe next time around have a look at A35 again as think its a decent entrance by Mercedes to this sector - Says a lot about the MK 7 series that even at 6 years its still beating out a brand new model which is another reason stayed with the MK 7 as its the evolved and complete version and with the TCR at its best on the run out model.

In terms of dealer experience, had a similar experience at another local Audi, but the other Audi in my proximity have some really decent folk in there and its a good place to walk into - My local VW dealer is also decent, always found them very polite and helpful and the young lad talked to made extra effort to take me into the rear pound to see the black TCR took photos of recently and knew a reasonable amount about it given its quite new - Think he learnt a little more from me given you have to go into the details before make the purchase.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 22 May 2019, 08:03
I thought this thread needed a few more pictures. I took these before the car went off to the detailer but it really needs a proper clean. Also having our drive graded and resurfaced properly after the developer's incompetent attempts so feel a sense of achievement in having missed the earth moving equipment from the shots! The paint had the surface texture of sandpaper after shipping and production, I think the matt mirrors were smoother than the paint.

Dealer did as I asked and left the car entirely sealed including the roof and bonnet covers. I checked the car with a Scangrip inspection lamp and it's in pretty good condition. Orange peel all over it as I have come to expect from VW (particularly on C pillar) and there are a couple of sanding marks and a few light swirls which could be from the protective covers rubbing on corners. Minor work with an orbital polisher and actually a good colour to work on - hides the dirt well but enough contrast to work on unlike white which washes out with hot spots and makes it hard to inspect with directional inspection lights.

Given how pronounced the rear diffuser is, I'm thinking of putting some PPF on to it as it's going to suck up muck and be a nightmare to keep scratch free without a level of polishing and care that life is too short for.

Only initial impressions of the car (while keeping the revs down) is that the steering is very light. The exhaust doesn't have the crackle and pops of the CSS and sounds quite muted. Whether it'll bed in and become a bit more throaty remains to be seen but I've run it through all modes including sport. I'll post some pictures of the CSS and TCR together this weekend.

Vinyl TCR on the door is subtle and understated. I didn't go for the shouty hexagon decals. Looks really good.

Arrived on Pirellis so will swap out for Michelin CS2s. I guess the Pretoria only get the CS2s ex factory.

Shot with the GT4 which is a paint to sample colour - 7A1 Grey Black for comparison. Pure Grey has a bit more blue in it (colder) and in direct sunlight, is a bit darker than Audi's Nardo Grey but tone is very similar. Grey Black is much warmer in sunlight.

If anyone is considering one, you won't go wrong with Pure Grey. If anyone wants any pictures or images of spec choices, happy to take them for you, just comment and I'll do them this weekend.

(https://i.imgur.com/pGai8Wa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5uWS6Ke.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/szjfG7u.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pG1HfVl.jpg)

It looks great there, not out of place with the GT4, a nice compliment to that awesome piece of kit

It has come across as a grey/blue and having a different personality depending on the sunlight, but having seen the white and the black the grey is definitely coming across as the best colour for the trim to blend with.

Most of the promo work was with the pure grey and the red and think thats no coincidence as its likely the red is the next best colour.

Know this is a gimmick but be good to see the TCR puddle light logo when lights go down

My Golf R definitely gained an increase exhaust note as the miles went on it, so think you cannot judge this until run in and with a few thousand miles on it

there are many videos where you presume the cars are well run in, definitely demonstrating a decent exhaust note and apparently the stainless exhaust is made with a decent note in mind - is it true there is no Aktuator? that be good to know?

Like others be great to see the CS next to the TCR, going to be a great shot

Seeing yours has made mine seem such a long wait now haha, so be feeding off your experience for a while it seems, and particularly the ride and drive, and how compares with the CS?

Mine would obviously be compared to the R - expectation is it will be very similar in ride (comfort may feel like the R normal) performance, lighter in handling and with some wet road scramble of the wheels at time

But to see some photos that are not on the forecourt and from a friendly has been great, and we look forward to seeing some more AGB
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 22 May 2019, 08:10
I thought this thread needed a few more pictures. I took these before the car went off to the detailer but it really needs a proper clean. Also having our drive graded and resurfaced properly after the developer's incompetent attempts so feel a sense of achievement in having missed the earth moving equipment from the shots! The paint had the surface texture of sandpaper after shipping and production, I think the matt mirrors were smoother than the paint.

Dealer did as I asked and left the car entirely sealed including the roof and bonnet covers. I checked the car with a Scangrip inspection lamp and it's in pretty good condition. Orange peel all over it as I have come to expect from VW (particularly on C pillar) and there are a couple of sanding marks and a few light swirls which could be from the protective covers rubbing on corners. Minor work with an orbital polisher and actually a good colour to work on - hides the dirt well but enough contrast to work on unlike white which washes out with hot spots and makes it hard to inspect with directional inspection lights.

Given how pronounced the rear diffuser is, I'm thinking of putting some PPF on to it as it's going to suck up muck and be a nightmare to keep scratch free without a level of polishing and care that life is too short for.

Only initial impressions of the car (while keeping the revs down) is that the steering is very light. The exhaust doesn't have the crackle and pops of the CSS and sounds quite muted. Whether it'll bed in and become a bit more throaty remains to be seen but I've run it through all modes including sport. I'll post some pictures of the CSS and TCR together this weekend.

Vinyl TCR on the door is subtle and understated. I didn't go for the shouty hexagon decals. Looks really good.

Arrived on Pirellis so will swap out for Michelin CS2s. I guess the Pretoria only get the CS2s ex factory.

Shot with the GT4 which is a paint to sample colour - 7A1 Grey Black for comparison. Pure Grey has a bit more blue in it (colder) and in direct sunlight, is a bit darker than Audi's Nardo Grey but tone is very similar. Grey Black is much warmer in sunlight.

If anyone is considering one, you won't go wrong with Pure Grey. If anyone wants any pictures or images of spec choices, happy to take them for you, just comment and I'll do them this weekend.

(https://i.imgur.com/pGai8Wa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5uWS6Ke.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/szjfG7u.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pG1HfVl.jpg)

It looks great there, not out of place with the GT4, a nice compliment to that awesome piece of kit

It has come across as a grey/blue and having a different personality depending on the sunlight, but having seen the white and the black the grey is definitely coming across as the best colour for the trim to blend with.

Most of the promo work was with the pure grey and the red and think thats no coincidence as its likely the red is the next best colour.

My Golf R definitely gained an increase exhaust note as the miles went on it, so think you cannot judge this until run in and with a few thousand miles on it

there are many videos where you presume the cars are well run in, definitely demonstrating a decent exhaust note and apparently the stainless exhaust is made with a decent note in mind

Like others be great to see the CS next to the TCR, going to be a great shot

Seeing yours has made mine seem such a long wait now haha, so be feeding off your experience for a while it seems, and particularly the ride and drive, and how compares with the CS?

In terms of steering, and you stating its light, it says in a few places that the 2 x performance packs give progressive steering? and have also read the steering software has been reconfigured and so it should behave differently from the R, GTI PP and CS?

Its been stated in a few videos that there is good feel from the steering, (Carfection I think) where you sometimes hear that steering is not that engaging on previous models

Does anyone have any better understanding of the steering changes that comes with the TCR?

Mine would obviously be compared to the R - expectation is it will be very similar in ride (comfort may feel like the R normal) performance, lighter in handling and with some wet road scramble of the wheels at time

But to see some photos that are not on the forecourt and from a friendly has been great, and we look forward to seeing some more AGB
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Clubsport S on 22 May 2019, 21:44
Looks great! You are right about the rear diffuser, looks massive and gloss black it will be almost impossible not get some scratches on it. PPF is a good idea!

I just did this snap on my iPhone so the angle is broadly similar but it shows the difference in the rear of the CSS and TCR. I suspect there won't be a cutting pattern for the PPF in Xpel yet.

(https://i.imgur.com/P2p6DNM.jpg)

Great comparison shot. TCR diffuser does look huge. Interested to hear how it drives in comparison too (when you get clearance to have a go  :wink:).
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 23 May 2019, 06:22
Good to see a close up photo of the spoiler lip. I’m still struggling to get hold of one. Do you think it’s too subtle?

I can take a few more pictures for you if it'll help. It's funny, VW went big on the CSS spoiler and small on the rear diffuser and the other way round for the TCR.

Do you have the part numbers? It looks like the VW Performance spoiler for the R but that's based on memory, not a direct comparison so I might be wrong.

Personally, I think it's a bit blink and you'll miss it and if it is the shared part for the R, it'll be about £250 and I just don't think I could justify it. I think there are better options.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 23 May 2019, 17:23
Good to see a close up photo of the spoiler lip. I’m still struggling to get hold of one. Do you think it’s too subtle?

I can take a few more pictures for you if it'll help. It's funny, VW went big on the CSS spoiler and small on the rear diffuser and the other way round for the TCR.

Do you have the part numbers? It looks like the VW Performance spoiler for the R but that's based on memory, not a direct comparison so I might be wrong.

Personally, I think it's a bit blink and you'll miss it and if it is the shared part for the R, it'll be about £250 and I just don't think I could justify it. I think there are better options.

Part number is definitely different. Other photos would be greatly appreciated thanks. It’s almost as if the concept one is more pronounced.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 23 May 2019, 20:52
Part number is definitely different. Other photos would be greatly appreciated thanks. It’s almost as if the concept one is more pronounced.

It's different. My EKTA doesn't have it, will ask the dealer what the part number is as I have to go in and get something tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 23 May 2019, 20:53
Part number is definitely different. Other photos would be greatly appreciated thanks. It’s almost as if the concept one is more pronounced.

It's different. My EKTA doesn't have it, will ask the dealer what the part number is as I have to go in and get something tomorrow.

I have the part number already thanks.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 23 May 2019, 20:56
Fortunately I made the decision that this A35 AMG is not for me this time around and to let others be the early adopters and maybe next time around have a look at A35 again as think its a decent entrance by Mercedes to this sector - Says a lot about the MK 7 series that even at 6 years its still beating out a brand new model which is another reason stayed with the MK 7 as its the evolved and complete version and with the TCR at its best on the run out model.

In terms of dealer experience, had a similar experience at another local Audi, but the other Audi in my proximity have some really decent folk in there and its a good place to walk into - My local VW dealer is also decent, always found them very polite and helpful and the young lad talked to made extra effort to take me into the rear pound to see the black TCR took photos of recently and knew a reasonable amount about it given its quite new - Think he learnt a little more from me given you have to go into the details before make the purchase.

I agree with your logic. I like the fact that there is some lineage with the Golf. Mercedes tend to be on a displacement reduction strategy. Next model, the A25!  :grin:

I always take enthusiasm and attitude over other factors. Good to hear that there are some decent dealerships out there though, I've just had rotten luck although I must give my dealer and salesman his due, he has really made the effort after I told him what I wanted to do.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 23 May 2019, 20:59
Part number is definitely different. Other photos would be greatly appreciated thanks. It’s almost as if the concept one is more pronounced.

It's different. My EKTA doesn't have it, will ask the dealer what the part number is as I have to go in and get something tomorrow.

I have the part number already thanks.

Sorry, meant that it was different from the concept not different from the R. Cool if you have the code, I recall the other thread now.

What about a CSS rear spoiler? Is it purely aesthetic?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 23 May 2019, 21:32
Part number is definitely different. Other photos would be greatly appreciated thanks. It’s almost as if the concept one is more pronounced.

It's different. My EKTA doesn't have it, will ask the dealer what the part number is as I have to go in and get something tomorrow.

I have the part number already thanks.

Sorry, meant that it was different from the concept not different from the R. Cool if you have the code, I recall the other thread now.

What about a CSS rear spoiler? Is it purely aesthetic?

Ah. Probably me being thick! The production spoiler looks more discreet, almost more like the R Performance one.

As for the CSS spoiler, I really think the special edition stuff should stay on those models. Can look a bit daft on other versions. Suppose it’s all personal taste.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 23 May 2019, 21:49

Know this is a gimmick but be good to see the TCR puddle light logo when lights go down


I did a quick video for my wife which will show you the puddle light. You can download it here: https://app.box.com/s/mm2whhla5ib69kd41rwrdhsuk0lg1jjw

It's a 22.1MB .MOV file so just be warned on size if you're downloading on a mobile connection. It's set to expire on Saturday as I don't want Box hitting for bandwidth costs.

The TCR logo isn't a puddle light, it's actually a little gobo of the logo under the door. The puddle lights remain on the mirrors as before so it's not where I thought it was positioned. You still have the LED lights on the underside of the mirrors per the GTI PP etc.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 23 May 2019, 21:53

As for the CSS spoiler, I really think the special edition stuff should stay on those models. Can look a bit daft on other versions. Suppose it’s all personal taste.

I think the CSS spoiler is pretty discreet. I hate the look of the Oettinger one that's offered as an option (or was).

Personally, don't mind mods that borrow from the look of a model like the CSS. I think where I draw the line is when people start reproducing the decals and pretending the car is something it's not.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 23 May 2019, 21:54

As for the CSS spoiler, I really think the special edition stuff should stay on those models. Can look a bit daft on other versions. Suppose it’s all personal taste.

I think the CSS spoiler is pretty discreet. I hate the look of the Oettinger one that's offered as an option (or was).

Personally, don't mind mods that borrow from the look of a model like the CSS. I think where I draw the line is when people start reproducing the decals and pretending the car is something it's not.

Know what you mean. There’s a gtd on my daily commute with CS decals. Poor.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 23 May 2019, 22:18

As for the CSS spoiler, I really think the special edition stuff should stay on those models. Can look a bit daft on other versions. Suppose it’s all personal taste.

I think the CSS spoiler is pretty discreet. I hate the look of the Oettinger one that's offered as an option (or was).

Personally, don't mind mods that borrow from the look of a model like the CSS. I think where I draw the line is when people start reproducing the decals and pretending the car is something it's not.

Know what you mean. There’s a gtd on my daily commute with CS decals. Poor.

Although I have to call out my neighbour for good effort. He has a debadged C63 and put a 180D badge on it to poke fun at the wannabes. The people who you want to impress know and those that don't know, probably don't care!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: andy28 on 23 May 2019, 22:34

Although I have to call out my neighbour for good effort. He has a debadged C63 and put a 180D badge on it to poke fun at the wannabes. The people who you want to impress know and those that don't know, probably don't care!

Cheaper insurance?  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 23 May 2019, 22:50

Although I have to call out my neighbour for good effort. He has a debadged C63 and put a 180D badge on it to poke fun at the wannabes. The people who you want to impress know and those that don't know, probably don't care!

Cheaper insurance?  :grin:

Do the new badges count as a modification? If so, it could now be considered as a ‘modified’ car by the insurers, so they might have increased the cost of insurance! :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 24 May 2019, 06:08

Although I have to call out my neighbour for good effort. He has a debadged C63 and put a 180D badge on it to poke fun at the wannabes. The people who you want to impress know and those that don't know, probably don't care!

Cheaper insurance?  :grin:

Do the new badges count as a modification? If so, it could now be considered as a ‘modified’ car by the insurers, so they might have increased the cost of insurance! :grin:

Nothing would surprise me with an insurance company. It was an OEM part though....  :whistle: :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 24 May 2019, 08:22

Know this is a gimmick but be good to see the TCR puddle light logo when lights go down


I did a quick video for my wife which will show you the puddle light. You can download it here: https://app.box.com/s/mm2whhla5ib69kd41rwrdhsuk0lg1jjw

It's a 22.1MB .MOV file so just be warned on size if you're downloading on a mobile connection. It's set to expire on Saturday as I don't want Box hitting for bandwidth costs.

The TCR logo isn't a puddle light, it's actually a little gobo of the logo under the door. The puddle lights remain on the mirrors as before so it's not where I thought it was positioned. You still have the LED lights on the underside of the mirrors per the GTI PP etc.

I completely misunderstood that also, and as soon as off the company network will download and have a peek, thank you!!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 24 May 2019, 08:26
Given my parking conditions, particularly in winter, dark, tight spaces, high kerbs I have a few nicks on my alloys, and do not bother to refurbish as likely to nick them again at some point, so I just live with them and they not bad enough to spoil the effect, you have trouble seeing damage from any standing distance, I am not that clumsy, but upon close inspection they are obviously there to see.

One hope, with the Reifnitz being a matte finish is that I can do my own spot repairs periodically, so AGB do they look like that would be easy to do if had the correct paint pen?

Also, for those more connected, any idea as to what the code for the reifnitz matte black would be?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 24 May 2019, 08:46
I completely misunderstood that also, and as soon as off the company network will download and have a peek, thank you!!

No, VW didn't explain it or document it very well. They didn't give enough context to the pictures so it was easy to assume that they had modified the wing mirror.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 24 May 2019, 08:58
Given my parking conditions, particularly in winter, dark, tight spaces, high kerbs I have a few nicks on my alloys, and do not bother to refurbish as likely to nick them again at some point, so I just live with them and they not bad enough to spoil the effect, you have trouble seeing damage from any standing distance, I am not that clumsy, but upon close inspection they are obviously there to see.

One hope, with the Reifnitz being a matte finish is that I can do my own spot repairs periodically, so AGB do they look like that would be easy to do if had the correct paint pen?

Also, for those more connected, any idea as to what the code for the reifnitz matte black would be?

They don't look like a difficult wheel to repair and I must say, they're much better looking in the metal than they appear in photographs. I was going to go for another Pretoria wheel but I'm glad that I went with the newer wheel in the end.

Repair is easy, way better than diamond cut. The paint is a standard VAG finish (I have the code) but touching it in versus sanding/filling/priming and spraying is likely to look worse as you'll never match the surface profile with a pen/dabber.

Tyre choices can help minimise damage or take superficial brushes based on the profile of the sidewall. I need to look at the Pirellis on that basis actually - you've given me something to do later.  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 24 May 2019, 09:13
I thought there would be lots of chat about how great the car is not how easy or hard the wheels might be to refurb  :rolleyes: Get the car, drive it, enjoy it. You don't think I wonder how painful a hip replacement will be. You go cycling and play tennis and whatever else and enjoy doing it!!!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 24 May 2019, 11:05
I thought there would be lots of chat about how great the car is not how easy or hard the wheels might be to refurb  :rolleyes: Get the car, drive it, enjoy it. You don't think I wonder how painful a hip replacement will be. You go cycling and play tennis and whatever else and enjoy doing it!!!

Jim, actually completely agree, and wrote something similar to this on the VWROC forum recently in that it was a long time ago since worried about how pristine the car looks as you simply drive yourself nuts doing so

In the coming 3 years of present R I have had someone rear end me (light, split bumper but not plate behind it) a lady reverse into the rear door as I watched (new door) and most recently a young girl reversed back into me, splitting the number plate surround - and me? spent most of the time comforting the very apologetic folk who caused the damage stating its only metal etc

Add in a few door dink and my self inflicted kerb damage and the R has been under a bit of fire in its time with me

But, the accidents are a bit freaky to have so many in one cycle, and the door dink are unavoidable and the kerb rash less avoidable if you see the conditions have to park in

The car itself is well looked after, use the correct fuel, ran it in, drive it sometimes as it should be driven but definitely nothing silly and if look over the cosmetics whoever gets it next will be getting a really sound car thats had no mechanical issues in its time.

I would not be fixing the reifnitz everytime have a minor rubbing, but maybe yearly it be nice to give them a tidy up, and again not showroom, but likely only visible to close inspection.

My car gets a collonite pre-winter and does not get washed till spring aside from a jet wash if too mucky, based on fact after a couple of days on mucky winter roads it makes all the effort pointless

So agree, I have freed myself from worrying about the car as after a wash it still looks great to walk up to even with the described imperfections, and do just enjoy the getting in the cabin and driving the car most and R has never let me down in that department

Do understand other like to really look after their cars, detail etc, and do get and respect that, its just with so many other things have to get around in my days a  more relaxed approach works best for me

If the car was to be a keeper, which the GTi TCR might, then likely at the 3 year mark I would pay for a full detail and restoration of any minor body work - till then, its going to be out there under fire in car parks and taking its war wounds :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 24 May 2019, 11:10
Given my parking conditions, particularly in winter, dark, tight spaces, high kerbs I have a few nicks on my alloys, and do not bother to refurbish as likely to nick them again at some point, so I just live with them and they not bad enough to spoil the effect, you have trouble seeing damage from any standing distance, I am not that clumsy, but upon close inspection they are obviously there to see.

One hope, with the Reifnitz being a matte finish is that I can do my own spot repairs periodically, so AGB do they look like that would be easy to do if had the correct paint pen?

Also, for those more connected, any idea as to what the code for the reifnitz matte black would be?

They don't look like a difficult wheel to repair and I must say, they're much better looking in the metal than they appear in photographs. I was going to go for another Pretoria wheel but I'm glad that I went with the newer wheel in the end.

Repair is easy, way better than diamond cut. The paint is a standard VAG finish (I have the code) but touching it in versus sanding/filling/priming and spraying is likely to look worse as you'll never match the surface profile with a pen/dabber.

Tyre choices can help minimise damage or take superficial brushes based on the profile of the sidewall. I need to look at the Pirellis on that basis actually - you've given me something to do later.  :smiley:

Seen them twice in flesh now and agree, much nicer than come across in photos and very happy with choice as did think about the Prets also - I am on Pretoria now, and was going to specify them on a replacement R in Black, but I really liked the shape of the reifnitz and considered them with the pure grey some kind of TCR signature statement (think they named after the town the TCR was unveiled? maybe)

In terms of repair, then obviously a proper refurb would be needed to restore to factory lustre, but think if its a standard paint option then have capability to do a decent enough job till maybe the closest inspection - have done many a few times on cars owned on bodywork successfully -
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 24 May 2019, 18:11

Know this is a gimmick but be good to see the TCR puddle light logo when lights go down


I did a quick video for my wife which will show you the puddle light. You can download it here: https://app.box.com/s/mm2whhla5ib69kd41rwrdhsuk0lg1jjw

It's a 22.1MB .MOV file so just be warned on size if you're downloading on a mobile connection. It's set to expire on Saturday as I don't want Box hitting for bandwidth costs.

The TCR logo isn't a puddle light, it's actually a little gobo of the logo under the door. The puddle lights remain on the mirrors as before so it's not where I thought it was positioned. You still have the LED lights on the underside of the mirrors per the GTI PP etc.

Not my normal Friday had to step up and manage some stuff this afternoon, do people not know its a Friday and a Bank Holiday one at that :)

But finally got around to the more pleasurable and definitely not what was thinking and a little gimmicky maybe but not averse either as it adds a little more signature appeal.

The brightness is second surprise as its more a projection than an illumination onto the floor as the video was not even in the dark - have taken a screen grab though you intend to cleanse the video later for others to see.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Hk4kYhGk/3-C7-BACE5-01-E2-4648-BC8-D-4-AB6819-B49-AD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mPksVV2v)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 25 May 2019, 01:23
That used to be a problem with RS4 bucket seats getting stolen. Can't see them being £12k though?

They're probably that price purely to dissuade people upgrading. A while back, R dash trim pieces were silly money vs GTI prices - again, probably to dissuade would be modders.

They took my chassis number and I was referred by the head of sales so knew I wasn't a modder. I said it was for insurance in the event of a claim to ensure I had cover under the agreed policy. Still £13,500. They justified it on the basis that they didn't carry stocks of the assembled item and being a limited part.

Hope the organised crime lot don’t see this, or there’ll be some on eBay for sale soon and an owner missing their pride and joy. Shocking the blatant chop shop stuff for sale and nothing done about it.

Off topic!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 25 May 2019, 01:35
That TCR is going to be £40k list.... so whacked with the "expensive car tax" for 5 years.... ouch.
The £40k+ luxury tax is calculated on the List/RRP before OTR costs, so as that car is £40,525 OTR (according to the plinth in the picture) and a TCR has OTR costs of £1220, it'll be under.

 :smiley:

VW ramped up some of the prices in April, my exact spec ordered in March would now be £965 more and back then they also had £1500 deposit contribution. The Apr is a bit lower now. Current discounts (carwow etc) look a bit tight, around 9% compared to 14-15% before, or a touch over that with some direct
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 27 May 2019, 19:29
Gets Volkswizard nod of approval

https://youtu.be/CXxEw_4GhI4 (https://youtu.be/CXxEw_4GhI4)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 28 May 2019, 09:38
Took a drive out to caffeine and machine in Stratford-upon-Avon Saturday and mixed breakfast with some car spotting and chat with like minded before heading into Stratford-upon-Avon itself for the day - be a good place to gather some clubsports and TCR

The R held it’s own in some illustrious company

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Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 28 May 2019, 13:03
Took a drive out to caffeine and machine in Stratford-upon-Avon Saturday and mixed breakfast with some car spotting and chat with like minded before heading into Stratford-upon-Avon itself for the day - be a good place to gather some clubsports and TCR

The R held it’s own in some illustrious company


Went there for the first time last Wednesday. Had met Richard at Tuthill to discuss my build and had lunch there after just to see what it was about. Good coffee and the burger I had was also excellent. They seem overly keen to tell people not to be dicks and most of what I've seen of them on social seems to suggest horrendous parking situation on the weekend - was it that busy?



Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 28 May 2019, 13:27
Took a drive out to caffeine and machine in Stratford-upon-Avon Saturday and mixed breakfast with some car spotting and chat with like minded before heading into Stratford-upon-Avon itself for the day - be a good place to gather some clubsports and TCR

The R held it’s own in some illustrious company


Went there for the first time last Wednesday. Had met Richard at Tuthill to discuss my build and had lunch there after just to see what it was about. Good coffee and the burger I had was also excellent. They seem overly keen to tell people not to be dicks and most of what I've seen of them on social seems to suggest horrendous parking situation on the weekend - was it that busy?

We got there relatively early at 10.30 and as can see got the R parked out front, though main reason for trip was to have a day in Stratford and this was a convenient breakfast stop - We had breakfast as sat up on one of the benches and watched all the varying cars roll in - By time we left about 11.45 it was getting quite busy and the overflow (or 1st car park away from main area) was about 50% filled

Imagine it does get pretty busy through rest of the day and maybe more so Sunday, but its all like minded and so the vibe is good and if you get a good variety of drive ups, there is lots of pride and joys to look at and chat on - Despite the supercars there my favourite was a mint condition Nissan 350z that had stage one mods under the hood.

Nice variation from the new, modded and the classic, with lovely Tiger Ford and immaculate 1960's Alfa Romeo leading the way in the classic

The do not be dicks was something that was just said in general but was picked up as saying and so they branded it to themselves and basically means do not drink and drive or basically be an idiot

We like a good pub garden or a coffee, and to them that around cars and bikes (plenty of them on show also) creates a nice vibe and though we might pick our day and timing, we will be back and maybe when a few of us have our TCR not a bad place to gather with some clubsports (of course you can bring both :))

Mine was the only MK 7 on show, so the R was flying the flag and though understated compared to some held its own

The GT4 would sit well in the company and get some attention expect

My only comment to the guys and girls at Caffeine and Machine is to keep the formula simple and not be tempted to get carried away with selves as popularity spikes as thats usually the time you alienate the core clients.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 28 May 2019, 21:48

We got there relatively early at 10.30 and as can see got the R parked out front, though main reason for trip was to have a day in Stratford and this was a convenient breakfast stop - We had breakfast as sat up on one of the benches and watched all the varying cars roll in - By time we left about 11.45 it was getting quite busy and the overflow (or 1st car park away from main area) was about 50% filled

Imagine it does get pretty busy through rest of the day and maybe more so Sunday, but its all like minded and so the vibe is good and if you get a good variety of drive ups, there is lots of pride and joys to look at and chat on - Despite the supercars there my favourite was a mint condition Nissan 350z that had stage one mods under the hood.

Nice variation from the new, modded and the classic, with lovely Tiger Ford and immaculate 1960's Alfa Romeo leading the way in the classic

The do not be dicks was something that was just said in general but was picked up as saying and so they branded it to themselves and basically means do not drink and drive or basically be an idiot

We like a good pub garden or a coffee, and to them that around cars and bikes (plenty of them on show also) creates a nice vibe and though we might pick our day and timing, we will be back and maybe when a few of us have our TCR not a bad place to gather with some clubsports (of course you can bring both :))

Mine was the only MK 7 on show, so the R was flying the flag and though understated compared to some held its own

The GT4 would sit well in the company and get some attention expect

My only comment to the guys and girls at Caffeine and Machine is to keep the formula simple and not be tempted to get carried away with selves as popularity spikes as thats usually the time you alienate the core clients.

I gather they had a bit of a problem with burn outs, neighbour noise complaints and so on hence the visible effort with 'don't be a dick'. I was surprised by how busy they were at 2pm on a Wednesday afternoon. I really enjoyed my burger and coffee, I was expecting the food to be mediocre pub grub but it was considerably better than that.

It's not worth a 260 mile round trip for me though...



Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 28 May 2019, 22:56

We got there relatively early at 10.30 and as can see got the R parked out front, though main reason for trip was to have a day in Stratford and this was a convenient breakfast stop - We had breakfast as sat up on one of the benches and watched all the varying cars roll in - By time we left about 11.45 it was getting quite busy and the overflow (or 1st car park away from main area) was about 50% filled

Imagine it does get pretty busy through rest of the day and maybe more so Sunday, but its all like minded and so the vibe is good and if you get a good variety of drive ups, there is lots of pride and joys to look at and chat on - Despite the supercars there my favourite was a mint condition Nissan 350z that had stage one mods under the hood.

Nice variation from the new, modded and the classic, with lovely Tiger Ford and immaculate 1960's Alfa Romeo leading the way in the classic

The do not be dicks was something that was just said in general but was picked up as saying and so they branded it to themselves and basically means do not drink and drive or basically be an idiot

We like a good pub garden or a coffee, and to them that around cars and bikes (plenty of them on show also) creates a nice vibe and though we might pick our day and timing, we will be back and maybe when a few of us have our TCR not a bad place to gather with some clubsports (of course you can bring both :))

Mine was the only MK 7 on show, so the R was flying the flag and though understated compared to some held its own

The GT4 would sit well in the company and get some attention expect

My only comment to the guys and girls at Caffeine and Machine is to keep the formula simple and not be tempted to get carried away with selves as popularity spikes as thats usually the time you alienate the core clients.

I gather they had a bit of a problem with burn outs, neighbour noise complaints and so on hence the visible effort with 'don't be a dick'. I was surprised by how busy they were at 2pm on a Wednesday afternoon. I really enjoyed my burger and coffee, I was expecting the food to be mediocre pub grub but it was considerably better than that.

It's not worth a 260 mile round trip for me though...

That’s likely true also as it’s an obviously potential issue, though never saw anybody doing anything stupid in time I was there.

We were going to Stratford-upon-Avon anyway so it became a perfect breakfast stop but agree too far for a pop in - bacon and sausage rolls were of decent normal quality also so think it’s reasonable to say if in area it’s worth a visit.

Did you see the volkswizard review on YouTube that put up earlier on millbrook test center, gives a nice feel to TCR on twisting roads
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 29 May 2019, 00:18
Did you see the volkswizard review on YouTube that put up earlier on millbrook test center, gives a nice feel to TCR on twisting roads

Yeah, started to watch it and gave up in boredom.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 29 May 2019, 21:59

I've not had the TCR back yet from the detailer due to PPF complications so promised pictures of the CSS and TCR together will likely be at the end of this week. Although a Muntjac Deer decided to run into the side of the CSS and has damaged the front splitter and lower part of the front bumper. It ran into the car when I was parallel to it so the first I heard was the expensive sounding crunch. I stopped and got out to investigate and that's when I saw the culprit running into the undergrowth. Useless animals. Eat more venison.

Anyone looking at doing PPF on a TCR using Xpel will struggle with the side skirts and rear diffuser. They can be done as custom parts drawn from a template by your detailer but are not available as standard cutting templates. My detailer spoke to Xpel (who I have never found to be helpful) and they claim that the low production volume won't see a return on the development cost for them. The front splitter is a shared part with the R so a template doesn't have to be originated.

Decided not to bother with PPF, the rear diffuser is pretty intricate and labour in templating is likely to cost more than the materials and application. My detailer in fairness didn't quote me labour on doing the template but unless it has been 3D scanned, I don't think it'll be as good and no disrespect to him, he doesn't have the time or scanner to commit to doing the sort of job Xpel would if they saw a return. Besides which, I can buy a new part for not much more than the price of PPF.

In terms of treatment, I've cleaned, decontaminated and machine polished. The paint was in excellent condition and I wonder how much of that came down to the fact that I threatened the dealership with harm if they took a single seal off the car. There was a lot of transit contamination on the car and it had the texture of 240 grit sandpaper but 2 x snow foam, wash and clay bar took care of that. Pure Grey looks superb contrasted against the gloss black. Those glossy piano black trim pieces are going to require extra care not to scratch unless you're putting a ceramic coating on them.

On that subject, the detailer is applying Crystal Serum Ultra with EXOv4. I'm going to put C5 wheel armour on the wheels - inside, faces and then I'm going to put some ACF-50 on vulnerable areas under body. Gtechniq G1 is already applied to the glass as is Smart Fabric on the interior.

Will post some pictures on Friday when I have the car back.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 29 May 2019, 22:10
Are you detailing it or is the detailer?! I’m confused!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 29 May 2019, 23:48
Are you detailing it or is the detailer?! I’m confused!

I've done what I can, detailer doing what I can't. Crystal Serum Ultra is professional application only - training/certification required.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 01 June 2019, 00:52

Got the car back from my detailer today and it looks superb. I've taken a few photographs on the iPhone but will take some proper photographs when I take the cars out on a longer drive. Someone messaged me for a photograph of the back seats hence the slightly random inclusion.  :shocked:

The CSS has been in and out of London this week and with the good weather, the front end is splattered with 180 miles of suicidal insects and is rather dirty so it's not quite fair to photograph it next to the freshly detailed TCR so don't judge me for that!

Having driven the two cars back to back and on a 15 mile stretch of my own 'EVO triangle', I'm really pleased with handling and performance. It has a lot in common with the CSS and I drove it as I would the CSS. It's every bit as confidence inspiring. I didn't undertake a comparison with any amount of scientific endeavour, simply ran it in race mode with the DSG set to manual on a route I use as a benchmark. I figured that if I didn't get on with the most aggressive configuration, I would dial it back or make adjustments to individual settings. The route has a combination of fast, open sections, lots of technical corners, adverse camber, some hairpins, a switch back and some rough, pitted surfacing. It's an excellent test of a car's dynamics.

I was reminded of my complaint with (most) road cars equipped with paddles and that's the fact that they're not fixed to the steering column and on a couple of stretches where I know the exact gears I wanted, I found myself scrabbling around the wheel (exiting corners) for the shifter and the car was slightly unsettled as a result. It was actually easier to use the gearstick. Don't start me on +/- direction of shift! The DSG is much the same as on the 7.5PP/R and not having driven them recently, am going on memory. Perhaps there are nuances in the mapping which more seat time will reveal. The DSG box was keen to push me into a higher gear. In fairness, I was watching my revs given the car has done less than 30 miles but there were a couple of stretches where I drove 'normally'. I think I need to get used to driving a semi-automatic box again. It's not as good as Porsche's PDK-S where I actually trust the car to select the right gears.

I think the damping on the car is superb and I only ran in race mode which is intolerable in the CSS. I'm used to firm cars and I am probably not the last word in judging pliancy but there is a notable difference between the two cars. I leave the CSS in individual with everything set to race except the dampers which are on comfort and it's perfect. I think I'd probably spend more time changing modes in the TCR based on what I was doing than with the CSS. For fun, I suspect I'd be in Sport with no adjustments. I think the adjustability, particularly given my wife and I want entirely different things from the TCR make it a perfect shared car. I was expecting to need to swap the car to 18" wheels but I don't think it needs it. I've not tried comfort mode yet!

The car feels quick, much like the CSS, quicker than the 0-60 time on paper. The brakes are superb and similar to the CSS but they feel slightly over servoed - the pads are not bedded in and everything is new so it's probably too early to pass judgement. Braking has more linearity on the CSS I feel.

Anyway, better get on with the run in process! Those of you waiting for cars, you're not going to be disappointed.

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Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 01 June 2019, 08:14
@AGB; nice write up, and the car looks absolutely stunning. I really like the signature Pure Grey colour.

I not normally a fan of black wheels, but the combination of Pure Grey paint and black alloys looks spot on!  :cool:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 01 June 2019, 08:50
@AGB; nice write up, and the car looks absolutely stunning. I really like the signature Pure Grey colour.

I not normally a fan of black wheels, but the combination of Pure Grey paint and black alloys looks spot on!  :cool:

Thanks! I know what you mean about black wheels, I feel the same. I think having a coloured brake caliper and open faced spokes means they don't look like 'black holes' under the arches.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TurboTrev on 01 June 2019, 09:02
Great write up and the car looks stunning. :cool:  If I was to be picky, it's just a shame that VW did not use the CS back spoiler to balance out the large diffuser and I think the front bumper intakes and wheels should have been gloss black.  If it was mine, I'd certainly consider wrapping the front intakes if that is possible?  The pure grey is the only colour to get it in imho, great choice!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 01 June 2019, 09:51
I’d definitely wrap the front intakes too. It’d match the gloss black accents perfectly. From what I’ve seen there are only 2 colours which I think suit the TCR, which I’m putting down to the amount of black trim and the alloys: red and pure grey. Your car looks amazing and really looking forward to your thoughts as you get more familiar with the car.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 01 June 2019, 09:55
Great write up and the car looks stunning. :cool:  If I was to be picky, it's just a shame that VW did not use the CS back spoiler to balance out the large diffuser and I think the front bumper intakes and wheels should have been gloss black.  If it was mine, I'd certainly consider wrapping the front intakes if that is possible?  The pure grey is the only colour to get it in imho, great choice!

Thanks! I know what you mean. It's a bit like the parts bin came up empty when they got to the roof.

I did look at wrapping the front intakes but it worked out as the same price as buying a replacement part and to do it properly, you're disassembling bumper sections and looking at EKTA, the front bumper has a lot more parts than I realised. 20 odd if I recall. The problem with the cars being limited edition/production, the return on producing good cutting patterns isn't there so manufacturers like XPEL don't produce them. Compromise was that all is ceramic coated though which helps with the worst of the insect life.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 01 June 2019, 13:45
Great write up and photos AGB, it’s rrally good to read your initial thoughts.
 Save “scientific endeavour” for pub talk nerds and car journos, what’s really important are seat of the pants opinions from real owners who aren’t wearing rose tinted specs. You’ve summed it up really nicely there and just what everyone was hoping to see.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 01 June 2019, 14:00

We got there relatively early at 10.30 and as can see got the R parked out front, though main reason for trip was to have a day in Stratford and this was a convenient breakfast stop - We had breakfast as sat up on one of the benches and watched all the varying cars roll in - By time we left about 11.45 it was getting quite busy and the overflow (or 1st car park away from main area) was about 50% filled

Imagine it does get pretty busy through rest of the day and maybe more so Sunday, but its all like minded and so the vibe is good and if you get a good variety of drive ups, there is lots of pride and joys to look at and chat on - Despite the supercars there my favourite was a mint condition Nissan 350z that had stage one mods under the hood.

Nice variation from the new, modded and the classic, with lovely Tiger Ford and immaculate 1960's Alfa Romeo leading the way in the classic

The do not be dicks was something that was just said in general but was picked up as saying and so they branded it to themselves and basically means do not drink and drive or basically be an idiot

We like a good pub garden or a coffee, and to them that around cars and bikes (plenty of them on show also) creates a nice vibe and though we might pick our day and timing, we will be back and maybe when a few of us have our TCR not a bad place to gather with some clubsports (of course you can bring both :))

Mine was the only MK 7 on show, so the R was flying the flag and though understated compared to some held its own

The GT4 would sit well in the company and get some attention expect

My only comment to the guys and girls at Caffeine and Machine is to keep the formula simple and not be tempted to get carried away with selves as popularity spikes as thats usually the time you alienate the core clients.

I gather they had a bit of a problem with burn outs, neighbour noise complaints and so on hence the visible effort with 'don't be a dick'. I was surprised by how busy they were at 2pm on a Wednesday afternoon. I really enjoyed my burger and coffee, I was expecting the food to be mediocre pub grub but it was considerably better than that.

It's not worth a 260 mile round trip for me though...

I’ve got the opposite problem, I’m only 5 miles away from it so have to find a longer ‘drive’ to warm the car up. I haven’t been since March, looks way busier now the good weather is here. I do like the burgers too, will probably take the Mk2 over one evening during the week before I get the TCR.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 01 June 2019, 14:09
Great write up and photos AGB, it’s rrally good to read your initial thoughts.
 Save “scientific endeavour” for pub talk nerds and car journos, what’s really important are seat of the pants opinions from real owners who aren’t wearing rose tinted specs. You’ve summed it up really nicely there and just what everyone was hoping to see.

+1 to that :smiley: In fact it was so good it almost had me get my cheque book out and trust me, that is rare :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 03 June 2019, 09:33

Got the car back from my detailer today and it looks superb. I've taken a few photographs on the iPhone but will take some proper photographs when I take the cars out on a longer drive. Someone messaged me for a photograph of the back seats hence the slightly random inclusion.  :shocked:

The CSS has been in and out of London this week and with the good weather, the front end is splattered with 180 miles of suicidal insects and is rather dirty so it's not quite fair to photograph it next to the freshly detailed TCR so don't judge me for that!

Having driven the two cars back to back and on a 15 mile stretch of my own 'EVO triangle', I'm really pleased with handling and performance. It has a lot in common with the CSS and I drove it as I would the CSS. It's every bit as confidence inspiring. I didn't undertake a comparison with any amount of scientific endeavour, simply ran it in race mode with the DSG set to manual on a route I use as a benchmark. I figured that if I didn't get on with the most aggressive configuration, I would dial it back or make adjustments to individual settings. The route has a combination of fast, open sections, lots of technical corners, adverse camber, some hairpins, a switch back and some rough, pitted surfacing. It's an excellent test of a car's dynamics.

I was reminded of my complaint with (most) road cars equipped with paddles and that's the fact that they're not fixed to the steering column and on a couple of stretches where I know the exact gears I wanted, I found myself scrabbling around the wheel (exiting corners) for the shifter and the car was slightly unsettled as a result. It was actually easier to use the gearstick. Don't start me on +/- direction of shift! The DSG is much the same as on the 7.5PP/R and not having driven them recently, am going on memory. Perhaps there are nuances in the mapping which more seat time will reveal. The DSG box was keen to push me into a higher gear. In fairness, I was watching my revs given the car has done less than 30 miles but there were a couple of stretches where I drove 'normally'. I think I need to get used to driving a semi-automatic box again. It's not as good as Porsche's PDK-S where I actually trust the car to select the right gears.

I think the damping on the car is superb and I only ran in race mode which is intolerable in the CSS. I'm used to firm cars and I am probably not the last word in judging pliancy but there is a notable difference between the two cars. I leave the CSS in individual with everything set to race except the dampers which are on comfort and it's perfect. I think I'd probably spend more time changing modes in the TCR based on what I was doing than with the CSS. For fun, I suspect I'd be in Sport with no adjustments. I think the adjustability, particularly given my wife and I want entirely different things from the TCR make it a perfect shared car. I was expecting to need to swap the car to 18" wheels but I don't think it needs it. I've not tried comfort mode yet!

The car feels quick, much like the CSS, quicker than the 0-60 time on paper. The brakes are superb and similar to the CSS but they feel slightly over servoed - the pads are not bedded in and everything is new so it's probably too early to pass judgement. Braking has more linearity on the CSS I feel.

Anyway, better get on with the run in process! Those of you waiting for cars, you're not going to be disappointed.


Morning

Good read with my Monday breakfast before do the work thing

To back another comment think we all prefer the personal view and feeling to anything scientific and given you have a CSS also your immediate comparisons obviously carry a lot of weight.

It was not a quick and easy decision to not stay with the R, the 300 BHP coupled to AWD is a compelling argument.

I would not have looked that the GTI PP as have got used to the pace of the R and so when the TCR turned up with a close enough BHP to the R the thinking was that I would in the real world of UK roads not feel any loss in pace.

Understood there would be a trade off to the AWD and that argument was balanced by the drop in weight, the increased agility and the VAQ differential.

Also, though the TCR is not a CSS, its quite aligned, and I did look at many a review on the CSS and there was not anything in them to dissuade me

The commonality with all that is the decision was made on supposition, and so its nice to have even more assurance from your drive and CSS comparison, like said a great morning read and even though driving around in an R, October seems a long way away this morning :)

Also looks great sitting there :) but that be no consolation if drive was compromised in some way but thats now fully ticked.

My R definitely improved as went past the 1000 miles and then more mile were added, in fact I would say its running the best its ever been at the moment, and no reason not to expect the TCR to follow that path as the mechanicals bed in and you yourself get used to the DSG again

Never used DSG before the MK7 but now into my 6th year of use, so its quite natural for me, I use D when commuting around and use Race/Paddles any other time (as find the gearbox holds onto gears too long) and as its so innate to me, you do not get into wrong gear and with the immediate changes keep the pace seamlessly - Once you have got used to the TCR own DSG personality, sure you be the same.

One question, the R has a little bit of pedal travel to get moving (hence some use pedal boxes) which I have got so used to I naturally compensate to offset, so what is the TCR behaviour? you never mentioned it so maybe its mapped out? (maybe something to answer after the 1000 miles)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 04 June 2019, 06:57
Great write up and photos AGB, it’s rrally good to read your initial thoughts.
 Save “scientific endeavour” for pub talk nerds and car journos, what’s really important are seat of the pants opinions from real owners who aren’t wearing rose tinted specs. You’ve summed it up really nicely there and just what everyone was hoping to see.

Thanks Exonian. No, I didn’t mean some technical road test format, just a slightly more structured run through the various settings and options. But I guess the fact that I never got to ‘comfort’ mode says a lot about the cars damping for example. My car ownership background is over ten years of uncompromising cars so I probably have greater tolerance of firmer rides than most. I only mention this because I don’t want someone to take my subjective opinion as fact and make a decision based on what I have said not having the context of my experience/ownership background/preferences.

I bought a Cayman R when they came out and all the journalists were complaining that it was too firm for the road (it ran on fixed dampers) and the car was not really available to test drive so bought untested. When I got to drive it, I was like ‘what are they on about?’
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 04 June 2019, 07:04

We got there relatively early at 10.30 and as can see got the R parked out front, though main reason for trip was to have a day in Stratford and this was a convenient breakfast stop - We had breakfast as sat up on one of the benches and watched all the varying cars roll in - By time we left about 11.45 it was getting quite busy and the overflow (or 1st car park away from main area) was about 50% filled

Imagine it does get pretty busy through rest of the day and maybe more so Sunday, but its all like minded and so the vibe is good and if you get a good variety of drive ups, there is lots of pride and joys to look at and chat on - Despite the supercars there my favourite was a mint condition Nissan 350z that had stage one mods under the hood.

Nice variation from the new, modded and the classic, with lovely Tiger Ford and immaculate 1960's Alfa Romeo leading the way in the classic

The do not be dicks was something that was just said in general but was picked up as saying and so they branded it to themselves and basically means do not drink and drive or basically be an idiot

We like a good pub garden or a coffee, and to them that around cars and bikes (plenty of them on show also) creates a nice vibe and though we might pick our day and timing, we will be back and maybe when a few of us have our TCR not a bad place to gather with some clubsports (of course you can bring both :))

Mine was the only MK 7 on show, so the R was flying the flag and though understated compared to some held its own

The GT4 would sit well in the company and get some attention expect

My only comment to the guys and girls at Caffeine and Machine is to keep the formula simple and not be tempted to get carried away with selves as popularity spikes as thats usually the time you alienate the core clients.

I gather they had a bit of a problem with burn outs, neighbour noise complaints and so on hence the visible effort with 'don't be a dick'. I was surprised by how busy they were at 2pm on a Wednesday afternoon. I really enjoyed my burger and coffee, I was expecting the food to be mediocre pub grub but it was considerably better than that.

It's not worth a 260 mile round trip for me though...

I’ve got the opposite problem, I’m only 5 miles away from it so have to find a longer ‘drive’ to warm the car up. I haven’t been since March, looks way busier now the good weather is here. I do like the burgers too, will probably take the Mk2 over one evening during the week before I get the TCR.

Great to have a place like that on your doorstep. I would actually like to have a place to do a meet up or go for a drive with like minded folks but there isn’t really much of the sort of scene I like where I am. It’s either hardcore nerd or poseur where I live. While I can be a bit nerdy at times, it’s not to the exclusion of all else.

Mentioning burgers this early in the day is now making me hungry.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 04 June 2019, 07:11
Great write up and photos AGB, it’s rrally good to read your initial thoughts.
 Save “scientific endeavour” for pub talk nerds and car journos, what’s really important are seat of the pants opinions from real owners who aren’t wearing rose tinted specs. You’ve summed it up really nicely there and just what everyone was hoping to see.

+1 to that :smiley: In fact it was so good it almost had me get my cheque book out and trust me, that is rare :laugh:

Thanks, appreciate the kind words. It was an off the cuff review as I know what it’s like waiting a long time for a car and also how much I appreciated these type of little ‘fixes’ until my own car arrived.

If people like reading them, I’m happy to keep doing them but don’t want to be a forum wind bag!  :shocked:

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 05 June 2019, 13:30


Thanks, appreciate the kind words. It was an off the cuff review as I know what it’s like waiting a long time for a car and also how much I appreciated these type of little ‘fixes’ until my own car arrived.

If people like reading them, I’m happy to keep doing them but don’t want to be a forum wind bag!  :shocked:

Definitely keep it coming. The more the better. Really interesting reading for those of us with similar but different models to relate to and inspiring for those with TCR’s coming. Great reference points, no matter how unstructured, for those who will never get to drive a CSS (self included) and are interested in the TCR.
Not just that, but your wealth of other experience with sports cars gives it all a reference point of how the sporty Golfs hold their own place against these as daily drivers.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 05 June 2019, 16:13
Agreed, it was a good read and all information is great whilst passing the time waiting for delivery!

I am new to VW and was wondering what the actual differences are between the TCR and Clubsport S.  I know its got the back seats removed and has more bhp (maybe down to emissions than anything else).  But beyond this what are the technical differences?  Not expecting to have purchases a CS, but be interested to know :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 06 June 2019, 05:57


Thanks, appreciate the kind words. It was an off the cuff review as I know what it’s like waiting a long time for a car and also how much I appreciated these type of little ‘fixes’ until my own car arrived.

If people like reading them, I’m happy to keep doing them but don’t want to be a forum wind bag!  :shocked:

Definitely keep it coming. The more the better. Really interesting reading for those of us with similar but different models to relate to and inspiring for those with TCR’s coming. Great reference points, no matter how unstructured, for those who will never get to drive a CSS (self included) and are interested in the TCR.
Not just that, but your wealth of other experience with sports cars gives it all a reference point of how the sporty Golfs hold their own place against these as daily drivers.

To be honest, I have never strayed from a diet of VW and Porsche (in terms of purchasing) so I think many would accuse me of being a fan boy. I don’t think I am in the blinkered way that many people use the term and am honest about shortcomings or irritations where they exist.

I have tried to wander off the reservation a couple of times and add something else to the garage (Mercedes SLS, Audi RS4, Suzuki Jimny, GWagen Professional) but in every single case, the dealer experience was so poor or where they were able to organise themselves to get me a car to test drive, I was left unimpressed with the vehicle itself. The Suzuki Jimny that everyone has been raving about has the roughest engine outside of a Soviet era Lada (actually, the Lada is smoother) and the ‘its only £18k argument’ doesn’t wash as there are cars with better engines and which have higher NCAP scores at and below this price point. The RS4 had zero steering feel. It was ballistic and beautiful inside but the steering was so disconnected from the car, I might as well have been holding on to one of those child toy steering wheels that you connect to the back of a seat. Its unfathomable that a car at that price with an RS badge could have such a fundamental flaw relating to the driving experience.

My dealer lent me the 992 911 (latest generation if you don’t speak Porsche nerd) the other week and I had it for a few days. The car I had was £118k and looking at the 3 year residual on their finance offer to get an idea of depreciation, expected to lose 50% of that value in that term. I don’t buy on finance (other than using it to get discount contribution initially) and if I am spending that sort of money, I am not taking a 50% hit notwithstanding running costs but to spend that and hand it back after 3 years makes no sense to me as an ownership experience. The 992 was an incredible piece of engineering and considered I had one up from the base model in two wheel drive, being able to do 0-60 in just over 3 secs is quite something in a two wheel drive car. No doubt the GT and Turbo S will be significantly under 3 secs. Without going into specifics of which I could write a very long post, the 911 is not a sports car anymore, it has turned into a luxurious tech rich and highly civilised grand tourer which feels heavy when you throw it around. Phenomenal engineering but is it worth 3.5 TCRs? No.

My point via the examples above is that the GTI is a superb car on so many levels and against cars at much much higher price points. Which is why I will always have a GTI in the garage.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 06 June 2019, 06:47
Agreed, it was a good read and all information is great whilst passing the time waiting for delivery!

I am new to VW and was wondering what the actual differences are between the TCR and Clubsport S.  I know its got the back seats removed and has more bhp (maybe down to emissions than anything else).  But beyond this what are the technical differences?  Not expecting to have purchases a CS, but be interested to know :)

I’d suggest looking out the EVO review that Dan Prosser did on the CSS, it’s online and free. It sums up my view of the car word for word. Comparison to the TCR too early for me to comment on as I am still running in but it’s DSG versus manual and not a stripped out special edition.

Might be of interest to know how and why I came to own a CSS because I think a lot of people buy the GTI as a practical driver’s car and the CSS does and doesn’t tick that box.

I bought a Porsche Macan GTS last year as a daily driver. Spec’d it from factory and added all the driver focused options. It sounded fabulous but felt big and cumbersome but for an SUV, handled in a physics defying way. It also had a thirst and carrying around all that mass was returning 20MPG. After 3,500 miles and about 4 months, I got rid of it and it cemented my view that it was a Porsche in badge alone. I will never go near a SUV again.

My wife told me to get something sensible like a Golf. So I bought a Clubsport S. It’s a Golf right?

I joke but the CSS is not impractical and the TCR even more so with back seats and a working boot. We don’t have children and the dog rides in a basket in the boot if I want to take him out in the CSS. The space in the boot being entirely stripped out makes for an excellent dog bed holder and I bought one which fits where the space saver goes on a regular car. I am in two minds about asking someone in our village who does sewing and upholstery to strip the dog bed and cover it in Clark Plaid (GTI tartan pattern) for a bit of fun.

The thing that stands out about the CSS is the chassis and handling. It’s every bit as brilliant as every noted car journalist has ever said and I would pick it over just about any other car for a B road blast. The chassis engineer drafted in on the CSS project did the Porsche 911 997 GT3 RS and the 4.0 is seen as one of the best driver’s cars Porsche or any manufacturer have ever built.

The CSS is hugely composed over rough road aka most of Britain’s road network but it turns in so well and feels much much quicker than acceleration figures on paper suggest. Modern cars are bloated and feel big but the CSS is neutral and feels like a go kart crossed with a Jack Russell. Eager, quick and darts about. The exhaust is also very entertaining and a welcome antidote to sound actuators that so many modern cars have to make them sound sportier.

I have friends who are also petrol heads and they have some very special cars by any measure and a couple have a CSS in their collections. They agree with my view in that they’re keepers and are utterly brilliant drives.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Splashalot on 06 June 2019, 07:48
Loving your reflections, AGB.  Giving me a window into stuff I can't afford and making me even more satisfied with what I can - ie. my GTI.  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 06 June 2019, 08:46
Given the recommendation this was my breakfast read https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf-gti-clubsport/17816/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-s-review-updated-with-uk-driving (https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf-gti-clubsport/17816/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-s-review-updated-with-uk-driving)

Couple of questions AGB that cannot find answers for anywhere on your TCR

1. Is there a Sound Aktuator? Not a fan myself and have it deselected in my R but did read in one article there is no sound aktuator in the TCR and the tuned stainless exhaust is the only noise provider?
2. From experience of my R and as is mentioned in varying articles there is a little travel on the pedal before accelerate, and many fit pedal boxes, others like me, just adjust to it - So is there the same behaviour on TCR? or was it something that was not an issue on the CSS? 

Do understand there is some running in miles to be completed before can really give a full experience review but we all look forward to.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 06 June 2019, 10:16
Loving your reflections, AGB.  Giving me a window into stuff I can't afford and making me even more satisfied with what I can - ie. my GTI.  :smiley:

Nothing wrong with a GTI!  :cool: Thanks for the kind comment.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 06 June 2019, 10:32
Given the recommendation this was my breakfast read https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf-gti-clubsport/17816/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-s-review-updated-with-uk-driving (https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf-gti-clubsport/17816/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-s-review-updated-with-uk-driving)

Couple of questions AGB that cannot find answers for anywhere on your TCR

1. Is there a Sound Aktuator? Not a fan myself and have it deselected in my R but did read in one article there is no sound aktuator in the TCR and the tuned stainless exhaust is the only noise provider?
2. From experience of my R and as is mentioned in varying articles there is a little travel on the pedal before accelerate, and many fit pedal boxes, others like me, just adjust to it - So is there the same behaviour on TCR? or was it something that was not an issue on the CSS? 

Do understand there is some running in miles to be completed before can really give a full experience review but we all look forward to.

Sorry Hertsman, I missed your message due to the way the thread paginated. I replied as you posted and I saw it after and started replying and then managed to lose my response on send. The joy of replying on a  iPhone!

I don’t believe there is an actuator, certainly not where I can see it but not looked properly. The exhaust feels connected to my inputs. It’s not as raucous as the CSS if I could call the CSS that but it does have a good sound but is a little muted and thin at the moment. Was disappointed that they didn’t keep the concept exhaust shown in Worthersee. I will get more of a feel for the exhaust sound once it has bedded in and when I lose revs coming down from higher in the rev range. The CSS coming down from 5-6k into 3-4k sounds like a rally car. I rather like the fact that it’s a sleeper in that regard. Nobody would think s Golf would make those sounds!

I need to drive the TCR again, nothing immediately obvious with pedal travel - what stood out was the brakes and how the SA is quite exaggerated. But that’s an initial impression after a short drive in a new car so might settle. Will feedback this weekend when I am home.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 06 June 2019, 10:52
Given the recommendation this was my breakfast read https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf-gti-clubsport/17816/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-s-review-updated-with-uk-driving (https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf-gti-clubsport/17816/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-s-review-updated-with-uk-driving)

Couple of questions AGB that cannot find answers for anywhere on your TCR

1. Is there a Sound Aktuator? Not a fan myself and have it deselected in my R but did read in one article there is no sound aktuator in the TCR and the tuned stainless exhaust is the only noise provider?
2. From experience of my R and as is mentioned in varying articles there is a little travel on the pedal before accelerate, and many fit pedal boxes, others like me, just adjust to it - So is there the same behaviour on TCR? or was it something that was not an issue on the CSS? 

Do understand there is some running in miles to be completed before can really give a full experience review but we all look forward to.

Sorry Hertsman, I missed your message due to the way the thread paginated. I replied as you posted and I saw it after and started replying and then managed to lose my response on send. The joy of replying on a  iPhone!

I don’t believe there is an actuator, certainly not where I can see it but not looked properly. The exhaust feels connected to my inputs. It’s not as raucous as the CSS if I could call the CSS that but it does have a good sound but is a little muted and thin at the moment. Was disappointed that they didn’t keep the concept exhaust shown in Worthersee. I will get more of a feel for the exhaust sound once it has bedded in and when I lose revs coming down from higher in the rev range. The CSS coming down from 5-6k into 3-4k sounds like a rally car. I rather like the fact that it’s a sleeper in that regard. Nobody would think s Golf would make those sounds!

I need to drive the TCR again, nothing immediately obvious with pedal travel - what stood out was the brakes and how the SA is quite exaggerated. But that’s an initial impression after a short drive in a new car so might settle. Will feedback this weekend when I am home.

Thanks for response,

I have often missed message, and messed up a reply here, but think we all been here long enough to understand its easily done

The actuator in the R is quite noticeable as fakery as it resonates in the cabin below the window, and think you would notice it so its maybe that the CSS and now the TCR were not seen as needing that help.

Have my actuator set to ECO in the individual so its either off or ultra low to point I cannot hear it (might be another way of you checking if the TCR has it)

The exhaust note on the R completely changed as the miles were run up, and though not raucous it has a nice deep tone and noticeable overrun, so likely its too early to tell your TCR true note.

Have no idea to the engineering that underpins how an exhaust would sound but my thinking has always been that the CSS would be the most optimised of the range and that if TCR comes even marginally closer I would be happy.

Not seen the slight pedal travel needed on the R to get moving ever mentioned for the CSS or the TCR so maybe its been mapped out and power delivery is instant? The article you referenced has this comment "sharp throttle response, immense torque curve and vibrant top end." so maybe that supports it as not an issue.

Its one of my annoyances on the R that have learn to offset, but be nice to have removed and that power comes moment move the pedal.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Splashalot on 07 June 2019, 02:09
......Its one of my annoyances on the R that have learn to offset, but be nice to have removed and that power comes moment move the pedal.

Cough (peddle box) cough.   :wink:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 07 June 2019, 06:47
Not sure if anyone saw the latest EVO? Comparison of a TCR to a Megane Trophy. After praising the TCR throughout and drawing parallels to the CSS, the journo then goes on to say they’d have the Trophy every time! Everything he wrote about the Trophy confirms why I would never look at a Renault so slightly odd outcome I thought.

Also notice a 5 door TCR with 1k miles for sale at £32,995 on PH.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 07 June 2019, 09:43
Not sure if anyone saw the latest EVO? Comparison of a TCR to a Megane Trophy. After praising the TCR throughout and drawing parallels to the CSS, the journo then goes on to say they’d have the Trophy every time! Everything he wrote about the Trophy confirms why I would never look at a Renault so slightly odd outcome I thought.

Also notice a 5 door TCR with 1k miles for sale at £32,995 on PH.

Evo take their “ thrill of driving” theme to the extreme- they only ever consider the dynamic qualities of a car ( and usually on a smooth track) in judging how good a car is.
A car designed primarily for everyday road use is never going to be their winner in these head to heads.
I read evo for entertainment rather than information.
That said, I think i’ll go out and get a copy!! Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 07 June 2019, 10:39
Not sure if anyone saw the latest EVO? Comparison of a TCR to a Megane Trophy. After praising the TCR throughout and drawing parallels to the CSS, the journo then goes on to say they’d have the Trophy every time! Everything he wrote about the Trophy confirms why I would never look at a Renault so slightly odd outcome I thought.

Also notice a 5 door TCR with 1k miles for sale at £32,995 on PH.

I read that and they said on points the TCR is better but they'd take the Megane. Of which the only people who would do that are the people who aren't paying for it themselves!

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 07 June 2019, 12:55
At least they’re honest. When they say “take” they mean “take “ rather than “ buy and actually use”
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 07 June 2019, 15:25


Thanks, appreciate the kind words. It was an off the cuff review as I know what it’s like waiting a long time for a car and also how much I appreciated these type of little ‘fixes’ until my own car arrived.

If people like reading them, I’m happy to keep doing them but don’t want to be a forum wind bag!  :shocked:

Definitely keep it coming. The more the better. Really interesting reading for those of us with similar but different models to relate to and inspiring for those with TCR’s coming. Great reference points, no matter how unstructured, for those who will never get to drive a CSS (self included) and are interested in the TCR.
Not just that, but your wealth of other experience with sports cars gives it all a reference point of how the sporty Golfs hold their own place against these as daily drivers.

To be honest, I have never strayed from a diet of VW and Porsche (in terms of purchasing) so I think many would accuse me of being a fan boy. I don’t think I am in the blinkered way that many people use the term and am honest about shortcomings or irritations where they exist.

I have tried to wander off the reservation a couple of times and add something else to the garage (Mercedes SLS, Audi RS4, Suzuki Jimny, GWagen Professional) but in every single case, the dealer experience was so poor or where they were able to organise themselves to get me a car to test drive, I was left unimpressed with the vehicle itself. The Suzuki Jimny that everyone has been raving about has the roughest engine outside of a Soviet era Lada (actually, the Lada is smoother) and the ‘its only £18k argument’ doesn’t wash as there are cars with better engines and which have higher NCAP scores at and below this price point. The RS4 had zero steering feel. It was ballistic and beautiful inside but the steering was so disconnected from the car, I might as well have been holding on to one of those child toy steering wheels that you connect to the back of a seat. Its unfathomable that a car at that price with an RS badge could have such a fundamental flaw relating to the driving experience.

My dealer lent me the 992 911 (latest generation if you don’t speak Porsche nerd) the other week and I had it for a few days. The car I had was £118k and looking at the 3 year residual on their finance offer to get an idea of depreciation, expected to lose 50% of that value in that term. I don’t buy on finance (other than using it to get discount contribution initially) and if I am spending that sort of money, I am not taking a 50% hit notwithstanding running costs but to spend that and hand it back after 3 years makes no sense to me as an ownership experience. The 992 was an incredible piece of engineering and considered I had one up from the base model in two wheel drive, being able to do 0-60 in just over 3 secs is quite something in a two wheel drive car. No doubt the GT and Turbo S will be significantly under 3 secs. Without going into specifics of which I could write a very long post, the 911 is not a sports car anymore, it has turned into a luxurious tech rich and highly civilised grand tourer which feels heavy when you throw it around. Phenomenal engineering but is it worth 3.5 TCRs? No.

My point via the examples above is that the GTI is a superb car on so many levels and against cars at much much higher price points. Which is why I will always have a GTI in the garage.

Without wishing to clog the thread up further with a long reply it’s really interesting to read your opinions there on some very highly regarded machinery.
With the proliferation of electronics it’s easy to dial in a certain feel to a car from the factory so it surprises me about the Porsche with its pedigree. They obviously know their market though!

At vastly different price points I think there are quite a lot of us here (aside from those on their first Golf and those on possibly their last as they move on to other things) who can be accused of being VW group fans to the exclusion of all else. The thing is most of us do consider carefully other marques only to find the products aren’t any better or more affordable (and a mixture of both) so end up back sat behind a VW group steering wheel once again...

I have a friend I’ve known for very many years who has worked since leaving school in a hire and leasing company. He’s a sales manager and gets to drive just about everything. He’s a totally no nonsense, warts and all type person if you ask him about any car. One week it’s an i8, a 911, a Fiat 500, a 3 series... he gets to pick up the keys to whatever is lying around in their large compound. Yet his own car of choice will always be a Golf GTI if he can nab one. He always says they’re at least as good as cars several price brackets above and can do it all. He’s no fan of the R funnily enough. They have a bad name in the trade as VW products go (which is still above most things!)


As for the points here about throttle pedal feel. It’s the same actual accelerator pedal used across the range so I’ll assume the electronics in it are the same.
The engines are definitely programmed differently. The R far more eager than the original mk7 GTI in response and the CS40 has a fractionally more pronounced keenness again when on boost.
Engine/throttle responses in all these models are good but only once past that initial lag that’s obviously there for some political reason. Most modern vehicles now seem to have that lag from my limited experiences so I assume journalists are conditioned to it. They also probably drive the cars far harder than an average owner does in day to day use as they have limited time to suss out characteristics and limits, plus performance testing. Maybe if journos actually moaned about the dead travel the manufacturers would more or less remove it in “Sport” mode.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 07 June 2019, 17:53
Not sure if anyone saw the latest EVO? Comparison of a TCR to a Megane Trophy. After praising the TCR throughout and drawing parallels to the CSS, the journo then goes on to say they’d have the Trophy every time! Everything he wrote about the Trophy confirms why I would never look at a Renault so slightly odd outcome I thought.

Also notice a 5 door TCR with 1k miles for sale at £32,995 on PH.

Evo take their “ thrill of driving” theme to the extreme- they only ever consider the dynamic qualities of a car ( and usually on a smooth track) in judging how good a car is.
A car designed primarily for everyday road use is never going to be their winner in these head to heads.
I read evo for entertainment rather than information.
That said, I think i’ll go out and get a copy!! Thanks for the heads up.

I know what you mean but people like Dan Prosser and Henry Catchpole I find myself in agreement with an awful lot. So while I agree that they’re always going to favour something a little ‘hairy’, I think they in particular balance pragmatism with the ethos of EVO. I also rate Stuart Gallagher who is ex Editor of GT Porsche and now EVO editor.

It’s the latest with a Ferrari Pista on the cover. If you miss it, I have Readly and happy to email you the article. Also worth reading is the CSS vs TCR vs MKV review they did two issues ago.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 07 June 2019, 17:59
Not sure if anyone saw the latest EVO? Comparison of a TCR to a Megane Trophy. After praising the TCR throughout and drawing parallels to the CSS, the journo then goes on to say they’d have the Trophy every time! Everything he wrote about the Trophy confirms why I would never look at a Renault so slightly odd outcome I thought.

Also notice a 5 door TCR with 1k miles for sale at £32,995 on PH.

I read that and they said on points the TCR is better but they'd take the Megane. Of which the only people who would do that are the people who aren't paying for it themselves!

I know. Thank god they don’t umpire sport with that approach! Whenever a journalist says they like a car with character and summarises the failures of a car as such, it just makes me think they have been cosseted in too many luxury cars for a spell. It’s hard to buy a bad car on a functional level these days so sometimes I feel that journalists have to come up with some sort of contrary view or angle to make their reviews interesting or stand out.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 07 June 2019, 18:37

Without wishing to clog the thread up further with a long reply it’s really interesting to read your opinions there on some very highly regarded machinery.
With the proliferation of electronics it’s easy to dial in a certain feel to a car from the factory so it surprises me about the Porsche with its pedigree. They obviously know their market though!

At vastly different price points I think there are quite a lot of us here (aside from those on their first Golf and those on possibly their last as they move on to other things) who can be accused of being VW group fans to the exclusion of all else. The thing is most of us do consider carefully other marques only to find the products aren’t any better or more affordable (and a mixture of both) so end up back sat behind a VW group steering wheel once again...

I have a friend I’ve known for very many years who has worked since leaving school in a hire and leasing company. He’s a sales manager and gets to drive just about everything. He’s a totally no nonsense, warts and all type person if you ask him about any car. One week it’s an i8, a 911, a Fiat 500, a 3 series... he gets to pick up the keys to whatever is lying around in their large compound. Yet his own car of choice will always be a Golf GTI if he can nab one. He always says they’re at least as good as cars several price brackets above and can do it all. He’s no fan of the R funnily enough. They have a bad name in the trade as VW products go (which is still above most things!)

As for the points here about throttle pedal feel. It’s the same actual accelerator pedal used across the range so I’ll assume the electronics in it are the same.
The engines are definitely programmed differently. The R far more eager than the original mk7 GTI in response and the CS40 has a fractionally more pronounced keenness again when on boost.
Engine/throttle responses in all these models are good but only once past that initial lag that’s obviously there for some political reason. Most modern vehicles now seem to have that lag from my limited experiences so I assume journalists are conditioned to it. They also probably drive the cars far harder than an average owner does in day to day use as they have limited time to suss out characteristics and limits, plus performance testing. Maybe if journos actually moaned about the dead travel the manufacturers would more or less remove it in “Sport” mode.


I wouldn’t say you’re clogging the thread, it’s affirming to know that other people agree as I sometimes feel like I am the only one who thinks like this. I have mentioned TCR a few times despite the slight diversion so have not derailed the thread too much I hope.  :laugh:

I have to confess to only really liking NA engines and the CSS and TCR are the only exceptions I have ever made on this. I had a 911 (991.2) last summer and it had a horrible lag. I kept putting it into boost mode or whatever stupid acronym Porsche gave it as it was the only way I could get the feel I loved. That hesitation and pedal lag doesn’t exist in the CSS and I can’t say I noticed it in the TCR but don’t know the car as well yet as I have not spent as much time with it. Pedal weights and feel in the CSS are very different to a manual MKVII GTI though.

I’d get on with your friend, I’ve never really been a fan of the R either. I chuckled when I saw mention of the i8. That’s responsible for some of the worst back pain I have ever had - supplies with the worst seats I have ever tried in any car in my entire life. But journalists never ever mention that.

YouTubers and Car Bloggers are in a better position to offer honest, credible reviews and I think Thomas of Autogefuhl is excellent at approximating the experience of poking around a car in detail. He tends to offer a fair review with a buyer’s consideration but without being on the manufacturer payroll. So many YouTubers are so excited by the free junkets that they give glowing reviews when they’ve ‘made it’ and are invited by manufacturers.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 07 June 2019, 21:25
Not sure if anyone saw the latest EVO? Comparison of a TCR to a Megane Trophy. After praising the TCR throughout and drawing parallels to the CSS, the journo then goes on to say they’d have the Trophy every time! Everything he wrote about the Trophy confirms why I would never look at a Renault so slightly odd outcome I thought.

Also notice a 5 door TCR with 1k miles for sale at £32,995 on PH.

Evo take their “ thrill of driving” theme to the extreme- they only ever consider the dynamic qualities of a car ( and usually on a smooth track) in judging how good a car is.
A car designed primarily for everyday road use is never going to be their winner in these head to heads.
I read evo for entertainment rather than information.
That said, I think i’ll go out and get a copy!! Thanks for the heads up.

I know what you mean but people like Dan Prosser and Henry Catchpole I find myself in agreement with an awful lot. So while I agree that they’re always going to favour something a little ‘hairy’, I think they in particular balance pragmatism with the ethos of EVO. I also rate Stuart Gallagher who is ex Editor of GT Porsche and now EVO editor.

It’s the latest with a Ferrari Pista on the cover. If you miss it, I have Readly and happy to email you the article. Also worth reading is the CSS vs TCR vs MKV review they did two issues ago.

Yes, I’m being a little cynical-they are good journalists.
The CSs v mk5 piece was particularly interesting- I don’t think there has been a CSS v TCR direct comparison as yet, it was good to read your experience.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 07 June 2019, 22:17
I'm thinking of trying to order a TCR to replace my 7 GTi PP if I can get the figures right. If it's as good as my GTi then I'll be keeping it for a good while so I'm thinking of DCC, nav pro, dynaudio and climate screen. I've got all those options on my current GTi apart from climate screen but am thinking do I need all of them. I like the fact with the nav pro you can show the maps on both screens but then I'm thinking is that really necessary? My current car is also a manual as I didn't like the dsg Tiguan I had previously so is the dsg petrol much better? Opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 07 June 2019, 23:23
I'm thinking of trying to order a TCR to replace my 7 GTi PP if I can get the figures right. If it's as good as my GTi then I'll be keeping it for a good while so I'm thinking of DCC, nav pro, dynaudio and climate screen. I've got all those options on my current GTi apart from climate screen but am thinking do I need all of them. I like the fact with the nav pro you can show the maps on both screens but then I'm thinking is that really necessary? My current car is also a manual as I didn't like the dsg Tiguan I had previously so is the dsg petrol much better? Opinions would be greatly appreciated.

So why not keep the 7 gti if it has all you need? The TCR does sound like an excellent car, but you’d be paying a lot and losing the manual box- which it seems you prefer
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 07 June 2019, 23:31
I suppose it's the wondering if something newer and quicker in the TCRs case will be that much better than what I've got. Mines not perfect but it's still a great car. Front suspension knocks like buggery for the first 5 to 10 mins from cold for example. I do like the manual but the 7dsg intrigues me.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 08 June 2019, 08:53
I'm thinking of trying to order a TCR to replace my 7 GTi PP if I can get the figures right. If it's as good as my GTi then I'll be keeping it for a good while so I'm thinking of DCC, nav pro, dynaudio and climate screen. I've got all those options on my current GTi apart from climate screen but am thinking do I need all of them. I like the fact with the nav pro you can show the maps on both screens but then I'm thinking is that really necessary? My current car is also a manual as I didn't like the dsg Tiguan I had previously so is the dsg petrol much better? Opinions would be greatly appreciated.

I personally wouldn’t bother with a Nav Pro, the way it works in the instrument cluster isn’t like Audi (where it fills the entire instrumentation screen) so it’s not that much of an advantage for the premium. I think the standard screen is sufficient personally and I actually like having control knobs instead of trying to hit a target area on the screen. Particularly when driving.

Think DCC is a good option although if Sport mode is anything to go by, the car will be just fine on standard damper setup. We don’t have the greatest roads in Suffolk and despite this and on 19 inch wheels, it’s not a harsh ride.

My wife had a Tiguan, it was the second generation bought in 2012 and I disliked the accelerator and the way that worked with DSG so if the same generation, totally understand your feelings. The accelerator was floor mounted versus being hung and I could never pivot my heel on the floor and get a smooth take off unless I pivoted higher up the pedal and took my foot off the floor. A really unnatural movement. They changed it in the next generation. Anyway, that’s not an issue on the TCR.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 08 June 2019, 09:07
Thanks for the response AGB. Yes mine was gen 2 184 dsg Tiguan. Lovely car hated the gearbox on it  :grin: I need to go and see a car with normal nav and nav pro and see what they look like.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: JoeGTI on 08 June 2019, 18:38
The nav on both screens is definitely not worth paying that extra premium. Also, if you're an Android auto / CarPlay guy, then its irrelevant. The apple maps/google maps will never show in the instrument cluster.

The larger screen does look nice though, but the extra premium is harder to justify now imo... it made more sense in the older units when the standard screen was much smaller.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 08 June 2019, 18:45
I don't really use Android auto, can't get away with it. I prefer to keep the nav maps up to date. My friend at work has the standard screen and I must admit it does look very nice with the glass front. 👍
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 10 June 2019, 20:04



I wouldn’t say you’re clogging the thread, it’s affirming to know that other people agree as I sometimes feel like I am the only one who thinks like this. I have mentioned TCR a few times despite the slight diversion so have not derailed the thread too much I hope.  :laugh:

I have to confess to only really liking NA engines and the CSS and TCR are the only exceptions I have ever made on this. I had a 911 (991.2) last summer and it had a horrible lag. I kept putting it into boost mode or whatever stupid acronym Porsche gave it as it was the only way I could get the feel I loved. That hesitation and pedal lag doesn’t exist in the CSS and I can’t say I noticed it in the TCR but don’t know the car as well yet as I have not spent as much time with it. Pedal weights and feel in the CSS are very different to a manual MKVII GTI though.

I’d get on with your friend, I’ve never really been a fan of the R either. I chuckled when I saw mention of the i8. That’s responsible for some of the worst back pain I have ever had - supplies with the worst seats I have ever tried in any car in my entire life. But journalists never ever mention that.

YouTubers and Car Bloggers are in a better position to offer honest, credible reviews and I think Thomas of Autogefuhl is excellent at approximating the experience of poking around a car in detail. He tends to offer a fair review with a buyer’s consideration but without being on the manufacturer payroll. So many YouTubers are so excited by the free junkets that they give glowing reviews when they’ve ‘made it’ and are invited by manufacturers.

I very rarely watch YouTube bloggers but will occasionally watch one on recommendation and will agree Thomas is very good.

I’m the opposite, aside from the fact I’ll never be able to afford a Porsche  :grin: I really like modern turbo engines. I enjoy the thrust as boost kicks in when exiting a sharp corner. I’m too old and lazy to wring the neck of a revvy NA engine nowadays.
Mind you, an old skool V8...

I'm thinking of trying to order a TCR to replace my 7 GTi PP if I can get the figures right. If it's as good as my GTi then I'll be keeping it for a good while so I'm thinking of DCC, nav pro, dynaudio and climate screen. I've got all those options on my current GTi apart from climate screen but am thinking do I need all of them. I like the fact with the nav pro you can show the maps on both screens but then I'm thinking is that really necessary? My current car is also a manual as I didn't like the dsg Tiguan I had previously so is the dsg petrol much better? Opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Now would be a perfect time to order a TCR.
It’s a useful step up from the PP GTI on one hand and special enough to feel quite different from your current car. It’ll be a wee while before the hot mk8’s come online and a little while longer for discounts to appear and early production niggles to settle.

I finally got to see a TCR in the flesh on Sunday, I got in the VW Exeter showroom just as it opened to have a very quick nose around their car while the sales guys were still culling their hangovers with coffee.
I was really impressed with how the car looks in the flesh. I liked the detailing, the pure grey colouring and the Reifnitz wheels (and how cool is it to have wheels named after the GTI Treffen hometown?) and even the seats weren’t too gaudy in the flesh. It got the thumbs up from my son too. 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 11 June 2019, 08:53

I very rarely watch YouTube bloggers but will occasionally watch one on recommendation and will agree Thomas is very good.

I’m the opposite, aside from the fact I’ll never be able to afford a Porsche  :grin: I really like modern turbo engines. I enjoy the thrust as boost kicks in when exiting a sharp corner. I’m too old and lazy to wring the neck of a revvy NA engine nowadays.
Mind you, an old skool V8...


There are many doors into the church of Porsche and I think price perception is part of the issue. Granted, they are expensive but a friend of my wife wanted a convertible and I told her to get a Boxster. Too expensive she said. Found her an immaculate car with 8k miles for the price of a new GTI which was her budget.

I'm not down on modern turbo engines, I love the engine/tune in the CSS but what got me about that 911 was the fact that it was supposed to be a sports car yet the CSS felt more exciting and didn't have a discernible lag. 9000 rpm in a flat six NA is poetry but I share your love of a burbly V8. Now that would be an engine upgrade for a GTI!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 11 June 2019, 15:38
Loads of TCR's now on Autotrader, showing the different combinations you can get.

Black, Grey, Red, White, 18's, 19's, decals, no decals, pan roof etc etc.

As much as I hate to admit it, the decals really have grown on me, they certainly separate the car apart from other GTI's...  :shocked:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 11 June 2019, 16:26
Loads of TCR's now on Autotrader, showing the different combinations you can get.

Black, Grey, Red, White, 18's, 19's, decals, no decals, pan roof etc etc.

As much as I hate to admit it, the decals really have grown on me, they certainly separate the car apart from other GTI's...  :shocked:

Didn't realise there were as many as that on AT!

Seeing a few from the side, it lacks IMO a decent rear spoiler as I think AGB commented that they've switched it the other way round from the CS. Decals would be a no for me though. The little TCR logo is nice but those spots are terrible.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 17 June 2019, 02:05
I said I would post up a fuller review when I had run the car in but I’ve done about 500 miles in it now and spent the last week in the TCR driving in all conditions so suspect that my opinion won’t change much.

We optioned the TCR with traffic sign recognition and lane assist. The first appears to only identify the last traffic sign recognised versus having any intelligence or using supplemental data. The speed warning that was permanently on in the instrumentation became a source of irritation and it was promptly disabled. The lane assist revealed itself to me on a piece of road I know well and as I took the racing line, proceeded to fight me. Disabled that at the next stop street and not turned it back on again. I am sure they can be adjusted in some way but I’m not bothered about them as features and wouldn’t specify them if I had my time again. These features have been executed better in other cars I’ve driven.

The car is starting to bed in and the exhaust has produced some promising sounds when provoked but I still think it’s too quiet or the cabin is too well insulated. For a race car inspired model, it appears inspiration was taken from Formula E.

This is the first VW I’ve had with the digital instrumentation and for the most part I like it - subject to the usual complaint about the division of information between the head unit and instrumentation cluster not always being entirely perfect. The one thing that I have a bit of a bug bear with is the fuel gauge. At no point am I ever in doubt as to what my fuel level is on the CSS. But on the TCR, I have to check the gauge versus being able to just glance at it. Not sure if it’s the orientation change or the colour choice of the marker needle. I need to investigate whether I can change the needle colour or customise it, I’m sure it’s possible but if anyone has done this, be good to hear your views and how you did the change. I no longer have VCDS but been thinking about getting it again but as it’s PC only, it really is a pain.

Over the last week, I’ve driven the car in some appalling conditions and it has felt sure footed in extremely water logged conditions. The Pirellis have been very good and confidence inspiring. My car has the Reifnitz wheels and there is virtually no tyre wall when combined with the Pirellis and even very low kerbs can be nicked if you turn out too sharply. There really isn’t much forgiveness at all. Brakes are excellent and every bit as good as the ones on the CSS. They’re sharp but don’t feel as over servoed as they initially did, this may be running in or just familiarisation on my part.

I’ve played with the chassis control extensively and am running an individual programme which in essence is sport mode with dampers set to comfort or standard. I think the DCC settings are really well judged and unlike the CSS, I can use all of them in all conditions and none feel inappropriate. On the other hand, race mode on the CSS can’t cope with the UK’s roads but Sport on the TCR is absolutely fine.

I think power and torque in the TCR are spot on and the car feels quick. Quicker than a GTI PP. I’ve not managed to slip the wheels or induce any tramping and it puts power down well without any discernible torque steer. I've not been stamping on the pedals or burying my foot, it just hasn't been necessary due to the level of power/torque.

The DSG gearbox. Personally, I hate it if I want to have fun but don’t mind it if I’m just driving the car normally. Left in full auto, it’s always a gear out from where I want to be or is hell bent on having me change up for fuel economy. Driven in manual, it’s fine but the paddles are a bit of a joke and might be more agreeable if they were suitably sized. I’ve mentioned that I don’t get on with the fact that they’re fixed to the steering wheel which is a pain if you’re on twisty road with changes in elevation where you’re turning and changing up/down. Left in full auto to avoid shifting, the car would have me in sixth as soon as it possibly could, even in sport. Will probably swap to Mountine paddles if they can supply them without the ‘Halfords look’ branding.

Fuel economy not great, driving like a saint, I got 36.6mpg on a 100 mile run which was 20% suburbs / 60% motorway / 20% rural. Ironically, my wife runs the car in eco and got worse figures for the same run and she has a very different driving style. The Blue Trainer app gave me 85% as a rating for my driving but given the 20% of London driving, that’s expected due to the way you have to drive. My GT4 has a 3.8 litre engine and is manual. I manage 30.1mpg driving in similar manner on the same journey.

For me, the novelty of exploring a new car has worn off. It’s a superb car and excellent package but I think the performance aspects are let down with DSG. Despite the creature comforts, modernised interface and so on, I’d have a CSS without hesitation if I wanted a car that put a smile on my face every time.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 17 June 2019, 06:46
OBD11 is an alternative to vcds and is phone or tablet based. Your 36mpg sounds really good considering its got 45bhp more than a GTi pp and it'll probably get slightly better the more miles go on.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 17 June 2019, 07:29
I said I would post up a fuller review when I had run the car in but I’ve done about 500 miles in it now and spent the last week in the TCR driving in all conditions so suspect that my opinion won’t change much.

We optioned the TCR with traffic sign recognition and lane assist. The first appears to only identify the last traffic sign recognised versus having any intelligence or using supplemental data. The speed warning that was permanently on in the instrumentation became a source of irritation and it was promptly disabled. The lane assist revealed itself to me on a piece of road I know well and as I took the racing line, proceeded to fight me. Disabled that at the next stop street and not turned it back on again. I am sure they can be adjusted in some way but I’m not bothered about them as features and wouldn’t specify them if I had my time again. These features have been executed better in other cars I’ve driven.

The car is starting to bed in and the exhaust has produced some promising sounds when provoked but I still think it’s too quiet or the cabin is too well insulated. For a race car inspired model, it appears inspiration was taken from Formula E.

This is the first VW I’ve had with the digital instrumentation and for the most part I like it - subject to the usual complaint about the division of information between the head unit and instrumentation cluster not always being entirely perfect. The one thing that I have a bit of a bug bear with is the fuel gauge. At no point am I ever in doubt as to what my fuel level is on the CSS. But on the TCR, I have to check the gauge versus being able to just glance at it. Not sure if it’s the orientation change or the colour choice of the marker needle. I need to investigate whether I can change the needle colour or customise it, I’m sure it’s possible but if anyone has done this, be good to hear your views and how you did the change. I no longer have VCDS but been thinking about getting it again but as it’s PC only, it really is a pain.

Over the last week, I’ve driven the car in some appalling conditions and it has felt sure footed in extremely water logged conditions. The Pirellis have been very good and confidence inspiring. My car has the Reifnitz wheels and there is virtually no tyre wall when combined with the Pirellis and even very low kerbs can be nicked if you turn out too sharply. There really isn’t much forgiveness at all. Brakes are excellent and every bit as good as the ones on the CSS. They’re sharp but don’t feel as over servoed as they initially did, this may be running in or just familiarisation on my part.

I’ve played with the chassis control extensively and am running an individual programme which in essence is sport mode with dampers set to comfort or standard. I think the DCC settings are really well judged and unlike the CSS, I can use all of them in all conditions and none feel inappropriate. On the other hand, race mode on the CSS can’t cope with the UK’s roads but Sport on the TCR is absolutely fine.

I think power and torque in the TCR are spot on and the car feels quick. Quicker than a GTI PP. I’ve not managed to slip the wheels or induce any tramping and it puts power down well without any discernible torque steer. I've not been stamping on the pedals or burying my foot, it just hasn't been necessary due to the level of power/torque.

The DSG gearbox. Personally, I hate it if I want to have fun but don’t mind it if I’m just driving the car normally. Left in full auto, it’s always a gear out from where I want to be or is hell bent on having me change up for fuel economy. Driven in manual, it’s fine but the paddles are a bit of a joke and might be more agreeable if they were suitably sized. I’ve mentioned that I don’t get on with the fact that they’re fixed to the steering wheel which is a pain if you’re on twisty road with changes in elevation where you’re turning and changing up/down. Left in full auto to avoid shifting, the car would have me in sixth as soon as it possibly could, even in sport. Will probably swap to Mountine paddles if they can supply them without the ‘Halfords look’ branding.

Fuel economy not great, driving like a saint, I got 36.6mpg on a 100 mile run which was 20% suburbs / 60% motorway / 20% rural. Ironically, my wife runs the car in eco and got worse figures for the same run and she has a very different driving style. The Blue Trainer app gave me 85% as a rating for my driving but given the 20% of London driving, that’s expected due to the way you have to drive. My GT4 has a 3.8 litre engine and is manual. I manage 30.1mpg driving in similar manner on the same journey.

For me, the novelty of exploring a new car has worn off. It’s a superb car and excellent package but I think the performance aspects are let down with DSG. Despite the creature comforts, modernised interface and so on, I’d have a CSS without hesitation if I wanted a car that put a smile on my face every time.

Nice to read a post that hasn’t been written with rose tinted glasses.

How do you think it would have faired against the CSS had it also been manual?

A few reviews have mentioned the sound is fine but got a race inspired car a little more would have been nice, but as you say, it may be down to how well insulated the cabin is. I wonder if this was part of the reason for the akrapovic addition that will be comin?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 17 June 2019, 09:20
I said I would post up a fuller review when I had run the car in but I’ve done about 500 miles in it now and spent the last week in the TCR driving in all conditions so suspect that my opinion won’t change much.

We optioned the TCR with traffic sign recognition and lane assist. The first appears to only identify the last traffic sign recognised versus having any intelligence or using supplemental data. The speed warning that was permanently on in the instrumentation became a source of irritation and it was promptly disabled. The lane assist revealed itself to me on a piece of road I know well and as I took the racing line, proceeded to fight me. Disabled that at the next stop street and not turned it back on again. I am sure they can be adjusted in some way but I’m not bothered about them as features and wouldn’t specify them if I had my time again. These features have been executed better in other cars I’ve driven.

The car is starting to bed in and the exhaust has produced some promising sounds when provoked but I still think it’s too quiet or the cabin is too well insulated. For a race car inspired model, it appears inspiration was taken from Formula E.

This is the first VW I’ve had with the digital instrumentation and for the most part I like it - subject to the usual complaint about the division of information between the head unit and instrumentation cluster not always being entirely perfect. The one thing that I have a bit of a bug bear with is the fuel gauge. At no point am I ever in doubt as to what my fuel level is on the CSS. But on the TCR, I have to check the gauge versus being able to just glance at it. Not sure if it’s the orientation change or the colour choice of the marker needle. I need to investigate whether I can change the needle colour or customise it, I’m sure it’s possible but if anyone has done this, be good to hear your views and how you did the change. I no longer have VCDS but been thinking about getting it again but as it’s PC only, it really is a pain.

Over the last week, I’ve driven the car in some appalling conditions and it has felt sure footed in extremely water logged conditions. The Pirellis have been very good and confidence inspiring. My car has the Reifnitz wheels and there is virtually no tyre wall when combined with the Pirellis and even very low kerbs can be nicked if you turn out too sharply. There really isn’t much forgiveness at all. Brakes are excellent and every bit as good as the ones on the CSS. They’re sharp but don’t feel as over servoed as they initially did, this may be running in or just familiarisation on my part.

I’ve played with the chassis control extensively and am running an individual programme which in essence is sport mode with dampers set to comfort or standard. I think the DCC settings are really well judged and unlike the CSS, I can use all of them in all conditions and none feel inappropriate. On the other hand, race mode on the CSS can’t cope with the UK’s roads but Sport on the TCR is absolutely fine.

I think power and torque in the TCR are spot on and the car feels quick. Quicker than a GTI PP. I’ve not managed to slip the wheels or induce any tramping and it puts power down well without any discernible torque steer. I've not been stamping on the pedals or burying my foot, it just hasn't been necessary due to the level of power/torque.

The DSG gearbox. Personally, I hate it if I want to have fun but don’t mind it if I’m just driving the car normally. Left in full auto, it’s always a gear out from where I want to be or is hell bent on having me change up for fuel economy. Driven in manual, it’s fine but the paddles are a bit of a joke and might be more agreeable if they were suitably sized. I’ve mentioned that I don’t get on with the fact that they’re fixed to the steering wheel which is a pain if you’re on twisty road with changes in elevation where you’re turning and changing up/down. Left in full auto to avoid shifting, the car would have me in sixth as soon as it possibly could, even in sport. Will probably swap to Mountine paddles if they can supply them without the ‘Halfords look’ branding.

Fuel economy not great, driving like a saint, I got 36.6mpg on a 100 mile run which was 20% suburbs / 60% motorway / 20% rural. Ironically, my wife runs the car in eco and got worse figures for the same run and she has a very different driving style. The Blue Trainer app gave me 85% as a rating for my driving but given the 20% of London driving, that’s expected due to the way you have to drive. My GT4 has a 3.8 litre engine and is manual. I manage 30.1mpg driving in similar manner on the same journey.

For me, the novelty of exploring a new car has worn off. It’s a superb car and excellent package but I think the performance aspects are let down with DSG. Despite the creature comforts, modernised interface and so on, I’d have a CSS without hesitation if I wanted a car that put a smile on my face every time.

Think the car be receiving comes with the standard traffic recognition and lane assist and not the plus + but its not something had any personal interest in and if became onerous would do exactly the same as you, and turn them off.

The parts that really took comfort in was the performance in the wet for the drive and braking, and this week has been very winter time wet, so an unwanted but really good test and your comments provide comfort given I am dropping AWD.

The next piece that provided assurance was the DCC settings

Based on both them comments alone then thats two major concerns allayed

In terms of the DSG, think you describing DSG across the performance range as sounds a very similar experience to both my GTD and now the R - Having been with DSG for 6 years now have an intuitive feel for it but recognise all the comments you make especially the paddles moving with the wheel - Personally grown to love DSG given mine is a daily drive, but if wanted a weekend drive like the CSS S I would be wanting a manual.

There is a variety of options to switch out the paddles to larger and more quality materials - Think its just removing a pin, slotting in the new paddle and reinserting the pin - a few have done it across the forums so might be worth you looking at.

I have to park on a dark road, with high kerbs and usually under pressure so my Pretoria have some kerb rash as sometimes nicked them so for me wheel damage is an occupational hazard and it will likely be me living with some damage and spot repairs until maybe take time to repair them properly (2 or 3 years) though might investigate clear or black wheel protectors? anyone got any experience of them? EDIT: decided that the rimblades would likely be pointless and the allygator would be price of a couple of refurbs, so think I will do what do now, live with any damage, spot repair so look ok from general view and refurb at a defined distant point in time

Think the insulated cabin may have as much to do with it as seen a few videos where comments in the cabin have been to a muted noise but when they checked their exterior footage the noise was pretty good (and when windows open)

Presume there is no cabin fakery as pretty sure you would have mentioned it as its hard to ignore and irritates mostly everyone

The R is not raucous and would likely disappoint some but I quite like the deep tone its developed in race.

Seems mine is going to be MY20 so I will likely now get a chance to comment on the Akraprovich

Based on the 300 BHP R that drive,where get circa 28-30 MPG on the local and mid distance commutes, then 36 MPG on 286 BHP sounds quite good, as only ever get the 36 - 40 MPG on longer cruises. On both my cars the fuel economy gradually increased as miles were put on.   

If I got 36+ MPG I would be considering that a win as the GTD only was getting circa 38 MPG in its last year (as personal mileage dropped)

My R is a MK 7 so analogue which will sadly be giving up the dials for the screen. Always thought the MK 7 dials were just ok, and really liked the S3 dials but prefer any dials to a screen, so as much as sure will grow to accept, but in general a screen will never be a replacement for some well engineered dials

As stated, good honest review, and thanks for taking time, and given the high standards you comparing to, wholly positive and I personally am taking the overall comment of its a superb car despite the lesser liked aspects.

Who is next up to receive?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 17 June 2019, 10:02
OBD11 is an alternative to vcds and is phone or tablet based. Your 36mpg sounds really good considering its got 45bhp more than a GTi pp and it'll probably get slightly better the more miles go on.

Thanks for the tip on OBD11, it's on my list to look at but previously having looked at alternatives of that ilk, they were a bit superficial in terms of what they allowed. Have you used it to make changes to the instrumentation aesthetic? I remember there was  a time that you could adjust the dial sweep and that was about it.

I thought the 36 wasn't great. I was hoping to hit 40 but suspect that it's too early to make a call.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sh3lldon on 17 June 2019, 10:31
Picked my TCR up on Sat put 300 miles on it coming home and done around another 50 locally

Options -
DCC
Dynaudio

Very happy with the car it is relatively fast but extremely adaptable and comfortable in comparison to my R33 GTR this offers decent enough performance in a great package, the DSG box is taking me a bit of getting used to but for a daily its fine. Wet yesterday when out for a more spirited run and it does struggle for traction at points but it feels safe and planted. Looking forward to really getting to grips with it now and setting it up for personal preference.

Car was ordered throgh Joe at TL Darby great experience with no issues would recommend.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 17 June 2019, 10:34
Nice to read a post that hasn’t been written with rose tinted glasses.

How do you think it would have faired against the CSS had it also been manual?

A few reviews have mentioned the sound is fine but got a race inspired car a little more would have been nice, but as you say, it may be down to how well insulated the cabin is. I wonder if this was part of the reason for the akrapovic addition that will be comin?

No point in not being honest. It's funny in that of all the cars I've owned, the Clubsport S is the only one that I can think of where I'd say, 'wouldn't change a thing'. There is not a thing wrong with the way it drives.

If the TCR was manual, now there's a question. They didn't go as far as they did with the CSS so it doesn't have the aluminium sub frame and there is a weight difference but I suspect unless you were really pushing it to the limit, I think the differences that separate them would not be that significant. That said, the CSS does feel lighter and I think the sound deadening that was stripped out makes the experience of driving it that much more visceral. Quite a lot of the difference comes down to perception and how the car makes you feel and that's why I mentioned the sound insulation in the TCR muting the exhaust to a degree.

I'm not into obnoxiously loud exhausts, I like an exhaust which brings out the character of the engine and rewards you with a great sound but to drive in DSG and let the car do the work means you're always at lower revs pushing into higher gears. When I have run it manually and taken it closer to the redline going up, it sounds good and maybe the Akrapovic will fix that.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 17 June 2019, 11:02
Picked my TCR up on Sat put 300 miles on it coming home and done around another 50 locally

Options -
DCC
Dynaudio

Very happy with the car it is relatively fast but extremely adaptable and comfortable in comparison to my R33 GTR this offers decent enough performance in a great package, the DSG box is taking me a bit of getting used to but for a daily its fine. Wet yesterday when out for a more spirited run and it does struggle for traction at points but it feels safe and planted. Looking forward to really getting to grips with it now and setting it up for personal preference.

Car was ordered throgh Joe at TL Darby great experience with no issues would recommend.

Took my wife A1 SLine 185 BHP out for a run yesterday and it was damp and as the A1 is relatively small thats a decent amount of power to be pushing through front wheels and that little bit of scrabble is fun, you never feel out of control, it feels like you are interacting with the car, and thats probably the single thing that miss with the R, its too capable really and its going to be really interesting to compare the driving experience of the TCR vs R given I have such a feel now for the R to make a good cross comparison

- Think most find that though the comfort - normal - sport are ok as selections, its the individual settings that work the best - mine is set up in individual and never touch it.

Obviously your GTR is a great car but of older tech, so its not anywhere near an easy comparison, so best not to.

Obviously you still being careful but when miles start adding up and you get used to being in the car tell us how getting on?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 17 June 2019, 13:54
As much as I hate to admit it, the decals really have grown on me, they certainly separate the car apart from other GTI's...  :shocked:

I may have been tempted if they weren't so expensive.  Plus some review cars had them in an similar body colour to the grey so they didn't stand out as much whereas we only get black.  I think the subtle colour works a little better.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sh3lldon on 17 June 2019, 20:16
Obviously you still being careful but when miles start adding up and you get used to being in the car tell us how getting on?

Yes will update with thoughts, out earlier for a small run feels very capable. I am enjoying the car so far.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 17 June 2019, 21:03
Picked my TCR up on Sat put 300 miles on it coming home and done around another 50 locally

Options -
DCC
Dynaudio

Very happy with the car it is relatively fast but extremely adaptable and comfortable in comparison to my R33 GTR this offers decent enough performance in a great package, the DSG box is taking me a bit of getting used to but for a daily its fine. Wet yesterday when out for a more spirited run and it does struggle for traction at points but it feels safe and planted. Looking forward to really getting to grips with it now and setting it up for personal preference.

Car was ordered throgh Joe at TL Darby great experience with no issues would recommend.

Also ordered through Joe and would also highlight the great experience I have had so far.

Can’t wait to get mine, but sometime to wait yet :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 18 June 2019, 07:00
OBD11 is an alternative to vcds and is phone or tablet based. Your 36mpg sounds really good considering its got 45bhp more than a GTi pp and it'll probably get slightly better the more miles go on.

Thanks for the tip on OBD11, it's on my list to look at but previously having looked at alternatives of that ilk, they were a bit superficial in terms of what they allowed. Have you used it to make changes to the instrumentation aesthetic? I remember there was  a time that you could adjust the dial sweep and that was about it.

I thought the 36 wasn't great. I was hoping to hit 40 but suspect that it's too early to make a call.
so far what I've used mine for its been excellent. Does full scans and you can change things. Slightly different to vcds but does the same up to now.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 18 June 2019, 08:28
OBD11 is an alternative to vcds and is phone or tablet based. Your 36mpg sounds really good considering its got 45bhp more than a GTi pp and it'll probably get slightly better the more miles go on.

Thanks for the tip on OBD11, it's on my list to look at but previously having looked at alternatives of that ilk, they were a bit superficial in terms of what they allowed. Have you used it to make changes to the instrumentation aesthetic? I remember there was  a time that you could adjust the dial sweep and that was about it.

I thought the 36 wasn't great. I was hoping to hit 40 but suspect that it's too early to make a call.
so far what I've used mine for its been excellent. Does full scans and you can change things. Slightly different to vcds but does the same up to now.

Ok, that's really helpful. I'll give it a proper look. Thanks. I just can't be bothered to buy a cheap PC laptop which is what I had to do to run a whole bunch of software in the past.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 18 June 2019, 09:10
Track prepped TCR on Cup 2's at the Ring... Makes light work of a GTR midway through, the driver definitely knows the Ring!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBdCgYn_bpk
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 18 June 2019, 12:13
My dealer rang me yesterday evening about something else, and when I asked about the Akrapovic on the TCR he confirmed and then offered to take me out of my 6month old PP and into a brand new TCR (to my spec) at no extra cost to myself. So the same monthlies, no deposit, the only caveat being the base price difference (£2320) between the PP and a TCR would need to be covered by having less options and/or funding that myself.

He said there's plenty of build slots available and he's only actually delivered 1 TCR so far(!).

:shocked:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 18 June 2019, 12:21
Ditch the Pan roof and leather?!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 18 June 2019, 12:33
My dealer rang me yesterday evening about something else, and when I asked about the Akrapovic on the TCR he confirmed and then offered to take me out of my 6month old PP and into a brand new TCR (to my spec) at no extra cost to myself. So the same monthlies, no deposit, the only caveat being the base price difference (£2320) between the PP and a TCR would need to be covered by having less options and/or funding that myself.

He said there's plenty of build slots available and he's only actually delivered 1 TCR so far(!).

:shocked:

Can see that price increase not improving that state as I would have gone for the R over the TCR if choosing now

That is a contradiction to what I was told as I was told most slots were taken but they could have extended the run for MY20 and maybe thats why? or the information I was provided was incorrect and its been a slow uptake which then would likely be due to the R still being seen as better option?

Be interesting to see how many are being sold, as if go by this forum, there is very few of us who have ordered and so it might be a rarer sight than originally thought?

I have to the day never seen an ED40 or a CSS S in flesh

Pano and leather would be a painless drop if wanted to bridge the gap you describe,
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 18 June 2019, 13:09
I’m not considering it guys. :grin: I need leather as you have to have it in order to get the electric seat and lumbar support. My car is used for comfortable cruising as well as outright fun.

So with that, 19’s, DCC etc a TCR flies over £40k with ease.

I’m more than happy with my PP. It was just a curious proposition from the dealer. I think that with the amount of registered/demo/pre-reg cars on Autotrader, these are struggling to sell. Having said that, the same thing happened with the CS40.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 18 June 2019, 13:37
Fingers crossed its a sales flop. Then I might get an unregistered one next year when mine goes back  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 18 June 2019, 14:09
My dealer rang me yesterday evening about something else, and when I asked about the Akrapovic on the TCR he confirmed and then offered to take me out of my 6month old PP and into a brand new TCR (to my spec) at no extra cost to myself. So the same monthlies, no deposit, the only caveat being the base price difference (£2320) between the PP and a TCR would need to be covered by having less options and/or funding that myself.

He said there's plenty of build slots available and he's only actually delivered 1 TCR so far(!).

:shocked:

Can see that price increase not improving that state as I would have gone for the R over the TCR if choosing now

I would totally agree with this.  I think there may be a few around at the moment (someone mentioned a few being available on Autotrader), but think once the price goes up, people will find it very hard to justify over the R.  I guess some others would also look to choose the PP instead if they wanted to stay with the GTI.

If I hadn't already ordered I'm not sure I would have ended up with the TCR with the price increase - that is if they don't offset it with a discount...

I think the TCR will be fairly rare and even more so with the Akrapovic exhaust.  Fingers crossed it helps with residuals :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 18 June 2019, 16:48
It reminds me of the GTI Pirelli, despite the huge popularity of the Mk5 GTI and even more so the Ed30 (its sister under the skin) the Pirelli just didn’t sell. There were a good few booted out to dealers just before the mk6’s hit the showrooms (and their loooong build waits) with the instructions to pre register them. Which brings me on to the Ed40 that suffered a similar fate. Hardly anyone ordered one as they were identically priced to an R with less attractive deals on them, and so the remaining stock were shoved out to dealers with the instructions of pre-register and don’t discount too much (or so I was told by numerous sales execs) to tide over until the facelifted cars came properly on stream.
It’ll be interesting to see if VW do an official promotion to shift the last of the 7.5’s in the lead up to the final build slots like they did the 7 or whether there is still sufficient interest to keep sales flowing (bearing in mind the huge stall in car supply with WLTP causing a backlog) until the factory switches off production.

The last TCR’s will likely be just like the GTI Pirelli, less tech and very slightly outmoded by the incoming new model but a great car in its own right with lots of unique touches.

Somewhere in the middle of all that I neglected the Ed35.
Everyone neglected the poor Ed35!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 18 June 2019, 19:08
It reminds me of the GTI Pirelli, despite the huge popularity of the Mk5 GTI and even more so the Ed30 (its sister under the skin) the Pirelli just didn’t sell. There were a good few booted out to dealers just before the mk6’s hit the showrooms (and their loooong build waits) with the instructions to pre register them. Which brings me on to the Ed40 that suffered a similar fate. Hardly anyone ordered one as they were identically priced to an R with less attractive deals on them, and so the remaining stock were shoved out to dealers with the instructions of pre-register and don’t discount too much (or so I was told by numerous sales execs) to tide over until the facelifted cars came properly on stream.
It’ll be interesting to see if VW do an official promotion to shift the last of the 7.5’s in the lead up to the final build slots like they did the 7 or whether there is still sufficient interest to keep sales flowing (bearing in mind the huge stall in car supply with WLTP causing a backlog) until the factory switches off production.

The last TCR’s will likely be just like the GTI Pirelli, less tech and very slightly outmoded by the incoming new model but a great car in its own right with lots of unique touches.

Somewhere in the middle of all that I neglected the Ed35.
Everyone neglected the poor Ed35!

I didn’t neglect the ED35! Loved it but only ever saw one other.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 18 June 2019, 21:15
It reminds me of the GTI Pirelli, despite the huge popularity of the Mk5 GTI and even more so the Ed30 (its sister under the skin) the Pirelli just didn’t sell.

I passed on it because I didn't want a yellow car and one that looked like it had suffered extensive UV fading!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 18 June 2019, 21:23
The last TCR’s will likely be just like the GTI Pirelli, less tech and very slightly outmoded by the incoming new model but a great car in its own right with lots of unique touches.

I think something that goes in favour of the tech is Apple Car Play. A lot of the older models end up with a truly antiquated head unit but at least with Android/Apple, you can retain modernity as it were. The screen on the TCR will still look good in 5 years whereas the screen I had in my MKVI GTI looked ancient when it was delivered and I saw a MKVI the other day, was really surprised at how small the old screens were compared to modern equivalents. You sort of forget.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 19 June 2019, 08:36
If not want to pay for the decals from VW due to cost but quite liked them, then

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-TCR-Honeycomb-Side-decals-graphics-Kit-3-DOOR-KIT-Mk7-MK7-5-Mk8-GTI-GTD/123700139345?hash=item1ccd1a5551:g:-4EAAOSwRFNcp2vX&frcectupt=true (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-TCR-Honeycomb-Side-decals-graphics-Kit-3-DOOR-KIT-Mk7-MK7-5-Mk8-GTI-GTD/123700139345?hash=item1ccd1a5551:g:-4EAAOSwRFNcp2vX&frcectupt=true)

If I was to do this, I would go for a more subtle carbon opposed to the black

Colleague does Le Mans every year and gets his RS3 bedecked in different decals each time and they always look really good,

Anyone ever added any aftermarket decals to any of their cars
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 19 June 2019, 09:00
The last TCR’s will likely be just like the GTI Pirelli, less tech and very slightly outmoded by the incoming new model but a great car in its own right with lots of unique touches.

I think something that goes in favour of the tech is Apple Car Play. A lot of the older models end up with a truly antiquated head unit but at least with Android/Apple, you can retain modernity as it were. The screen on the TCR will still look good in 5 years whereas the screen I had in my MKVI GTI looked ancient when it was delivered and I saw a MKVI the other day, was really surprised at how small the old screens were compared to modern equivalents. You sort of forget.

I think you are about to be shown how wrong that statement is.... all of the new vehicles currently slated for 2020 release have massive amounts of display areas and tech. Huge dashboard wide panoramic wrap around displays. The idea of a single display area is about to be as obsolete as a LCD cassette radio display... Oh and all of the mechanical switches are history too.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 19 June 2019, 09:23
The last TCR’s will likely be just like the GTI Pirelli, less tech and very slightly outmoded by the incoming new model but a great car in its own right with lots of unique touches.

I think something that goes in favour of the tech is Apple Car Play. A lot of the older models end up with a truly antiquated head unit but at least with Android/Apple, you can retain modernity as it were. The screen on the TCR will still look good in 5 years whereas the screen I had in my MKVI GTI looked ancient when it was delivered and I saw a MKVI the other day, was really surprised at how small the old screens were compared to modern equivalents. You sort of forget.

I think you are about to be shown how wrong that statement is.... all of the new vehicles currently slated for 2020 release have massive amounts of display areas and tech. Huge dashboard wide panoramic wrap around displays. The idea of a single display area is about to be as obsolete as a LCD cassette radio display... Oh and all of the mechanical switches are history too.

Seriously looked at the A35 AMG as an R replacement so had a good play with the tech and with its twin 10" high definition displays and sharp, sometimes funky graphics there was definitely an initial wow factor, but returned a few times to see the car and each time that wow level dissipated to point I actually began to dislike it as it was a little too playstation and disengaging, and just another set of screens in my life!

Know its the way its going but just having flat or sweeping screens is a step backwards and even the base manufacturers can compete - Not opposed to digital, some of the digital dials are as good as some well engineered analogue its just the swathes of screen that include the driving details is not something ever going to take to.

What would like is actual digital dials (round) and then really large HD media screen in same place it is now with physical switches retained as gesture control is another meh

This of course is just me, and accept nothing is going to change the way its going, but advancement is not always for the best
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sjw on 19 June 2019, 09:58
The last TCR’s will likely be just like the GTI Pirelli, less tech and very slightly outmoded by the incoming new model but a great car in its own right with lots of unique touches.

I think something that goes in favour of the tech is Apple Car Play. A lot of the older models end up with a truly antiquated head unit but at least with Android/Apple, you can retain modernity as it were. The screen on the TCR will still look good in 5 years whereas the screen I had in my MKVI GTI looked ancient when it was delivered and I saw a MKVI the other day, was really surprised at how small the old screens were compared to modern equivalents. You sort of forget.

I think you are about to be shown how wrong that statement is.... all of the new vehicles currently slated for 2020 release have massive amounts of display areas and tech. Huge dashboard wide panoramic wrap around displays. The idea of a single display area is about to be as obsolete as a LCD cassette radio display... Oh and all of the mechanical switches are history too.

Seriously looked at the A35 AMG as an R replacement so had a good play with the tech and with its twin 10" high definition displays and sharp, sometimes funky graphics there was definitely an initial wow factor, but returned a few times to see the car and each time that wow level dissipated to point I actually began to dislike it as it was a little too playstation and disengaging, and just another set of screens in my life!

Know its the way its going but just having flat or sweeping screens is a step backwards and even the base manufacturers can compete - Not opposed to digital, some of the digital dials are as good as some well engineered analogue its just the swathes of screen that include the driving details is not something ever going to take to.

What would like is actual digital dials (round) and then really large HD media screen in same place it is now with physical switches retained as gesture control is another meh

This of course is just me, and accept nothing is going to change the way its going, but advancement is not always for the best

Never mind the fact that the "Tesla approach" massively reduces usability when driving along
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 19 June 2019, 10:00
The last TCR’s will likely be just like the GTI Pirelli, less tech and very slightly outmoded by the incoming new model but a great car in its own right with lots of unique touches.

I think something that goes in favour of the tech is Apple Car Play. A lot of the older models end up with a truly antiquated head unit but at least with Android/Apple, you can retain modernity as it were. The screen on the TCR will still look good in 5 years whereas the screen I had in my MKVI GTI looked ancient when it was delivered and I saw a MKVI the other day, was really surprised at how small the old screens were compared to modern equivalents. You sort of forget.

I think you are about to be shown how wrong that statement is.... all of the new vehicles currently slated for 2020 release have massive amounts of display areas and tech. Huge dashboard wide panoramic wrap around displays. The idea of a single display area is about to be as obsolete as a LCD cassette radio display... Oh and all of the mechanical switches are history too.

Agreed, no matter how modern your current car always feels, a new model soon puts paid to that. Just take a look inside a 2012 Audi or BMW and it'll be same looking inside a 2019 TCR in 2-3 years time. Dated. Doesn't stop it being a great car and my thoughts are that this Mk7.5 is one of the best out there but there's no getting away from the tech that's coming our way.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 19 June 2019, 10:34
I think you are about to be shown how wrong that statement is.... all of the new vehicles currently slated for 2020 release have massive amounts of display areas and tech. Huge dashboard wide panoramic wrap around displays. The idea of a single display area is about to be as obsolete as a LCD cassette radio display... Oh and all of the mechanical switches are history too.
Aside from the integrated widescreen display, what "tech" and fucntionality are you talking about?

I've heard so much about how the MK8 is going to be a tech revolution etc, but there's nothing out there apart from the form/function of the AID that indicates it will be any different to what a 7.5can do.

 :huh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 19 June 2019, 12:17
The last TCR’s will likely be just like the GTI Pirelli, less tech and very slightly outmoded by the incoming new model but a great car in its own right with lots of unique touches.

I think something that goes in favour of the tech is Apple Car Play. A lot of the older models end up with a truly antiquated head unit but at least with Android/Apple, you can retain modernity as it were. The screen on the TCR will still look good in 5 years whereas the screen I had in my MKVI GTI looked ancient when it was delivered and I saw a MKVI the other day, was really surprised at how small the old screens were compared to modern equivalents. You sort of forget.

I think you are about to be shown how wrong that statement is.... all of the new vehicles currently slated for 2020 release have massive amounts of display areas and tech. Huge dashboard wide panoramic wrap around displays. The idea of a single display area is about to be as obsolete as a LCD cassette radio display... Oh and all of the mechanical switches are history too.

I know, everything is going to be piano black, gloss, haptic surfaces. I'm talking about the usability of them not the aesthetic. The units in the MKVI are doorstops but at least you can extend the useful life of them to a degree with a phone interface. Providing the connections / wireless protocols remain supported of course.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 19 June 2019, 12:21
The last TCR’s will likely be just like the GTI Pirelli, less tech and very slightly outmoded by the incoming new model but a great car in its own right with lots of unique touches.

I think something that goes in favour of the tech is Apple Car Play. A lot of the older models end up with a truly antiquated head unit but at least with Android/Apple, you can retain modernity as it were. The screen on the TCR will still look good in 5 years whereas the screen I had in my MKVI GTI looked ancient when it was delivered and I saw a MKVI the other day, was really surprised at how small the old screens were compared to modern equivalents. You sort of forget.

I think you are about to be shown how wrong that statement is.... all of the new vehicles currently slated for 2020 release have massive amounts of display areas and tech. Huge dashboard wide panoramic wrap around displays. The idea of a single display area is about to be as obsolete as a LCD cassette radio display... Oh and all of the mechanical switches are history too.

Seriously looked at the A35 AMG as an R replacement so had a good play with the tech and with its twin 10" high definition displays and sharp, sometimes funky graphics there was definitely an initial wow factor, but returned a few times to see the car and each time that wow level dissipated to point I actually began to dislike it as it was a little too playstation and disengaging, and just another set of screens in my life!

Know its the way its going but just having flat or sweeping screens is a step backwards and even the base manufacturers can compete - Not opposed to digital, some of the digital dials are as good as some well engineered analogue its just the swathes of screen that include the driving details is not something ever going to take to.

What would like is actual digital dials (round) and then really large HD media screen in same place it is now with physical switches retained as gesture control is another meh

This of course is just me, and accept nothing is going to change the way its going, but advancement is not always for the best

I agree and think they've gone too far the other direction. That 992 911 I spent time with recently showed the failings of a pure digital approach. Everything was through touch interface and menus and when you're driving, reaching for a button or control knob is safer and more convenient. Shows up every spec of dust on the screens and haptic surfaces. Hugely responsive and fast interface though so impressive from that stand point but I like the relief and aesthetic of the old dials.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 19 June 2019, 14:35
Obviously I don’t have a crystal ball and much of the “tech for tech’s sake” has been discussed to death in the mk8 thread, but looking at the main rivals for the mk8 GTI/R then dynamically they’ve not moved the game on despite being recently released models (A class and 1 series). The insides are much of a muchness with screens and option packs to make the screens even more like an XBOX fest so people can spend even less time concentrating on the actual job in hand - driving!
With the mk8 we will get 1 series and A Class rivalling screens surrounding us and full cinema mode in all of the options are ticked. All lovely and embraced by many on here I’m sure who will deem it all “essential”.
The success of the Mk7 R has made it such that instead of a middle ground super competent Golf R versus an expensive A45 or a charismatic M140i being massively different in character, all our choices will be circa 300bhp 4WD tech fests at the upper end of the performance 4cyl hatch bracket, with the proper hot hatches (FWD) being similar variations on a theme with less power and off the line traction (Focus ST, Golf GTI, i30N, Civic). It’ll actually be the FWD hatches that will be more diverse in character. And I’m glad of that, I’d swap fun for a few BHP.

Point being the TCR and Ed40 (plus of course the CSS in a much greater sense) are limited run cars for enthusiasts so I think the tech on these cars (which dates so quickly anyway, even the new VW i car thingies seem to be named like iPhones to demonstrate how quickly the tech moves on) will be less important down the line when owned as second or third cars by GTI enthusiasts, but the tech on them is quite sufficient right now and the Golf seems to be in good demand still.
Maybe it’s just as likely the prevalence of SUV’s and the incoming i type electric cars will mean the venerable old Golf platform itself will soon be seen as archaic.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 19 June 2019, 15:50
Obviously I don’t have a crystal ball and much of the “tech for tech’s sake” has been discussed to death in the mk8 thread, but looking at the main rivals for the mk8 GTI/R then dynamically they’ve not moved the game on despite being recently released models (A class and 1 series). The insides are much of a muchness with screens and option packs to make the screens even more like an XBOX fest so people can spend even less time concentrating on the actual job in hand - driving!
With the mk8 we will get 1 series and A Class rivalling screens surrounding us and full cinema mode in all of the options are ticked. All lovely and embraced by many on here I’m sure who will deem it all “essential”.
The success of the Mk7 R has made it such that instead of a middle ground super competent Golf R versus an expensive A45 or a charismatic M140i being massively different in character, all our choices will be circa 300bhp 4WD tech fests at the upper end of the performance 4cyl hatch bracket, with the proper hot hatches (FWD) being similar variations on a theme with less power and off the line traction (Focus ST, Golf GTI, i30N, Civic). It’ll actually be the FWD hatches that will be more diverse in character. And I’m glad of that, I’d swap fun for a few BHP.

Point being the TCR and Ed40 (plus of course the CSS in a much greater sense) are limited run cars for enthusiasts so I think the tech on these cars (which dates so quickly anyway, even the new VW i car thingies seem to be named like iPhones to demonstrate how quickly the tech moves on) will be less important down the line when owned as second or third cars by GTI enthusiasts, but the tech on them is quite sufficient right now and the Golf seems to be in good demand still.
Maybe it’s just as likely the prevalence of SUV’s and the incoming i type electric cars will mean the venerable old Golf platform itself will soon be seen as archaic.

Colleague sold on his GTI a while back, a MK 6 Candy White 3 Door with them lovely Glendale alloy and I think I was more upset than him, as loved that car, it was still a really nice place to sit despite the supposed ageing tech.

And so If not in position to drive the newer versions then I would happily go back in time for a clean low mileage version of a MK 6 GTI (ED35) as it may not be on the cutting edge of the MQB drive or the tech, it will however still genuinely fit all I truly need.

Its an attitude might take to the TCR, if it's a good un, it might be my first keeper as seek to avoid the upcoming move to characterless interior.

Personally think that anyone who is at the timing for a change avoids the MK 8 and waits on some of the deals that will come with the outgoing MK 7 as you likely get a real bargain.

Will reference one customer with cash they might alienate and thats the senior citizen as my father in law struggles with the basic tech on his Polo so these screens and menus will really confuse some of a certain age (of course the generations will catch up to the tech)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 19 June 2019, 23:06
Picking mine up this Friday from Joe at TL Darby. It has nearly finished being detailed and ceramic coated (not VW) by MVS valeting local to the dealership. Lots of great pics and updates. Bit annoyed with VW adding the £3k nice sounding exhaust. But hey ho.

(Can’t see how to add pictures here, I don’t use a pc)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 19 June 2019, 23:15
Picking mine up this Friday from Joe at TL Darby. It has nearly finished being detailed and ceramic coated (not VW) by MVS valeting local to the dealership. Lots of great pics and updates. Bit annoyed with VW adding the £3k nice sounding exhaust. But hey ho.

(Can’t see how to add pictures here, I don’t use a pc)

Great news. Look forward to seeing the pictures.

If you want to post pictures, use something like https://imgbb.com/ to host and paste the address into the post.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 20 June 2019, 09:43
Picking mine up this Friday from Joe at TL Darby. It has nearly finished being detailed and ceramic coated (not VW) by MVS valeting local to the dealership. Lots of great pics and updates. Bit annoyed with VW adding the £3k nice sounding exhaust. But hey ho.

(Can’t see how to add pictures here, I don’t use a pc)

Great news. Look forward to seeing the pictures.

If you want to post pictures, use something like https://imgbb.com/ to host and paste the address into the post.

Or https://postimages.org/ is very simple.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Fizzer on 20 June 2019, 12:42
Picking mine up this Friday from Joe at TL Darby. It has nearly finished being detailed and ceramic coated (not VW) by MVS valeting local to the dealership. Lots of great pics and updates. Bit annoyed with VW adding the £3k nice sounding exhaust. But hey ho.


Picking mine up from Joe (excellent service so far) at TL Darby on Saturday.
Looking forward to comparing it against previous Golfs (R-Mk7) and GTI (230 Mk7.5).
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: david25 on 20 June 2019, 18:44
Colleague sold on his GTI a while back, a MK 6 Candy White 3 Door with them lovely Glendale alloy and I think I was more upset than him, as loved that car, it was still a really nice place to sit despite the supposed ageing tech.

And so If not in position to drive the newer versions then I would happily go back in time for a clean low mileage version of a MK 6 GTI (ED35) as it may not be on the cutting edge of the MQB drive or the tech, it will however still genuinely fit all I truly need.

Its an attitude might take to the TCR, if it's a good un, it might be my first keeper as seek to avoid the upcoming move to characterless interior.

Personally think that anyone who is at the timing for a change avoids the MK 8 and waits on some of the deals that will come with the outgoing MK 7 as you likely get a real bargain.

Will reference one customer with cash they might alienate and thats the senior citizen as my father in law struggles with the basic tech on his Polo so these screens and menus will really confuse some of a certain age (of course the generations will catch up to the tech)

I support your ED35 idea!

VW are still supporting older cars, with enough money can have one of these OEM units, which does most things compared to the MK7

https://www.advanced-incar.co.uk/products/volkswagen-retrofits/volkswagen-discover-media-mib2/
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 21 June 2019, 09:17
Picking mine up this Friday from Joe at TL Darby. It has nearly finished being detailed and ceramic coated (not VW) by MVS valeting local to the dealership. Lots of great pics and updates. Bit annoyed with VW adding the £3k nice sounding exhaust. But hey ho.

(Can’t see how to add pictures here, I don’t use a pc)

Thats #2 on the forum landing :) Looking forward to the photos :)

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 21 June 2019, 09:18
Colleague sold on his GTI a while back, a MK 6 Candy White 3 Door with them lovely Glendale alloy and I think I was more upset than him, as loved that car, it was still a really nice place to sit despite the supposed ageing tech.

And so If not in position to drive the newer versions then I would happily go back in time for a clean low mileage version of a MK 6 GTI (ED35) as it may not be on the cutting edge of the MQB drive or the tech, it will however still genuinely fit all I truly need.

Its an attitude might take to the TCR, if it's a good un, it might be my first keeper as seek to avoid the upcoming move to characterless interior.

Personally think that anyone who is at the timing for a change avoids the MK 8 and waits on some of the deals that will come with the outgoing MK 7 as you likely get a real bargain.

Will reference one customer with cash they might alienate and thats the senior citizen as my father in law struggles with the basic tech on his Polo so these screens and menus will really confuse some of a certain age (of course the generations will catch up to the tech)

I support your ED35 idea!

VW are still supporting older cars, with enough money can have one of these OEM units, which does most things compared to the MK7

https://www.advanced-incar.co.uk/products/volkswagen-retrofits/volkswagen-discover-media-mib2/

If found a really good one and wanted to invest a little ££ thats a great refresh of the central feature :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 21 June 2019, 09:20
Picking mine up this Friday from Joe at TL Darby. It has nearly finished being detailed and ceramic coated (not VW) by MVS valeting local to the dealership. Lots of great pics and updates. Bit annoyed with VW adding the £3k nice sounding exhaust. But hey ho.


Picking mine up from Joe (excellent service so far) at TL Darby on Saturday.
Looking forward to comparing it against previous Golfs (R-Mk7) and GTI (230 Mk7.5).

Ok, #3 landing at same time, - be interesting to see your view in comparison to the R as thats my change.

Obviously photos are a must!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sh3lldon on 21 June 2019, 10:19
The more time I spend with the car the more I am enjoying it very practical and comfortable but also very capable looking forward to giving it a good blast over the weekend to really see what it can do, 500 miles on the clock now taking it easy (most of the time) and moving through the rev range regularly.

The cabin is a great place to be I have a 700 mile round trip next weekend which I am looking forward to.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 June 2019, 10:45
The more time I spend with the car the more I am enjoying it very practical and comfortable but also very capable looking forward to giving it a good blast over the weekend to really see what it can do, 500 miles on the clock now taking it easy (most of the time) and moving through the rev range regularly.

The cabin is a great place to be I have a 700 mile round trip next weekend which I am looking forward to.

Get some pics posted... This thread needs more pictures!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 21 June 2019, 13:52
Will get the pics figured out. In meantime there is a few on https://instagram.com/mvs_valeting_detailing?igshid=sv5p6c42xci4
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 21 June 2019, 14:51
Will get the pics figured out. In meantime there is a few on https://instagram.com/mvs_valeting_detailing?igshid=sv5p6c42xci4

Nice selection of Pure Grey TCR there and amazingly treated, even in photos you can see the quality of the detail - Have always liked having the signature R Lapiz and think going to similarly enjoy being able to nod to any Pure Grey Golf see coming in other direction knowing its a TCR - The set of photos in the showroom had the best light and they really show the TCR off at its best - As much as love my R October felt a long way away as looked through the photos!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 21 June 2019, 22:24
Very pleased with it, am up to about 80 miles now. Will get chance to take it out in the morning but then got a mates 40th bbq and on Sunday am at really retro show with the Mk2. Then work and and away for a few days, going to have to wait to get some miles on it.

Quality of mVS detail is great, I’ve never used a detailer before though. Can’t fault the service of Joe at TL Darby or Ian the detailer. It’s only the 2nd time I’ve bought a new car, 1st being the Up Gti last year from inchcape Cheltenham. There was nothing bad about their service as such, delay was VW but had to keep chasing for any updates, whereas Joe has always been first with the contact and is a VW fan too.

Paid a quick visit to Caffeine and Machine, wonder if I was the first TCR? No prize 🤣
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 22 June 2019, 06:50
Very pleased with it, am up to about 80 miles now. Will get chance to take it out in the morning but then got a mates 40th bbq and on Sunday am at really retro show with the Mk2. Then work and and away for a few days, going to have to wait to get some miles on it.

Quality of mVS detail is great, I’ve never used a detailer before though. Can’t fault the service of Joe at TL Darby or Ian the detailer. It’s only the 2nd time I’ve bought a new car, 1st being the Up Gti last year from inchcape Cheltenham. There was nothing bad about their service as such, delay was VW but had to keep chasing for any updates, whereas Joe has always been first with the contact and is a VW fan too.

Paid a quick visit to Caffeine and Machine, wonder if I was the first TCR? No prize 🤣

Think your previous corrado would have got some attention 😊

Having said that the Sat I was there mine was on R there and despite the many numbers on the roads there was surprisingly quite a bit of interest from those who had pulled up in some classic pride and joys and mainly as they were interested in R as a daily to keep their classic safely tucked away in week

I had good morning there as brekkie stop off on way for day in Stratford some good cars turned up, pleasant folk to chat to and staff + food was decent

Look forward to some more updates on how getting on though compared to other two who have theirs yours is quite a leap from the UP no matter it’s virtues
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Stretts on 25 June 2019, 13:18
Very pleased with it, am up to about 80 miles now. Will get chance to take it out in the morning but then got a mates 40th bbq and on Sunday am at really retro show with the Mk2. Then work and and away for a few days, going to have to wait to get some miles on it.

Quality of mVS detail is great, I’ve never used a detailer before though. Can’t fault the service of Joe at TL Darby or Ian the detailer. It’s only the 2nd time I’ve bought a new car, 1st being the Up Gti last year from inchcape Cheltenham. There was nothing bad about their service as such, delay was VW but had to keep chasing for any updates, whereas Joe has always been first with the contact and is a VW fan too.

Paid a quick visit to Caffeine and Machine, wonder if I was the first TCR? No prize 🤣


Both my wife and I purchased our Gti's from Joe at TL Darby also our daughters UP Gti.  We will be heading down to Caffeine and Machine soon in the up Gti. Is it as good as they say?????
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sjw on 25 June 2019, 16:09
Very pleased with it, am up to about 80 miles now. Will get chance to take it out in the morning but then got a mates 40th bbq and on Sunday am at really retro show with the Mk2. Then work and and away for a few days, going to have to wait to get some miles on it.

Quality of mVS detail is great, I’ve never used a detailer before though. Can’t fault the service of Joe at TL Darby or Ian the detailer. It’s only the 2nd time I’ve bought a new car, 1st being the Up Gti last year from inchcape Cheltenham. There was nothing bad about their service as such, delay was VW but had to keep chasing for any updates, whereas Joe has always been first with the contact and is a VW fan too.

Paid a quick visit to Caffeine and Machine, wonder if I was the first TCR? No prize 🤣


Both my wife and I purchased our Gti's from Joe at TL Darby also our daughters UP Gti.  We will be heading down to Caffeine and Machine soon in the up Gti. Is it as good as they say?????

Didn't you test drive it?  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Stretts on 26 June 2019, 12:07
Very pleased with it, am up to about 80 miles now. Will get chance to take it out in the morning but then got a mates 40th bbq and on Sunday am at really retro show with the Mk2. Then work and and away for a few days, going to have to wait to get some miles on it.

Quality of mVS detail is great, I’ve never used a detailer before though. Can’t fault the service of Joe at TL Darby or Ian the detailer. It’s only the 2nd time I’ve bought a new car, 1st being the Up Gti last year from inchcape Cheltenham. There was nothing bad about their service as such, delay was VW but had to keep chasing for any updates, whereas Joe has always been first with the contact and is a VW fan too.

Paid a quick visit to Caffeine and Machine, wonder if I was the first TCR? No prize 🤣


Both my wife and I purchased our Gti's from Joe at TL Darby also our daughters UP Gti.  We will be heading down to Caffeine and Machine soon in the up Gti. Is it as good as they say?????

Didn't you test drive it?  :laugh:

Yes we had the TCR for the day to test it. very nice it was to.  Is a visit to Caffeine and Machine worth it????
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sjw on 26 June 2019, 14:21
Very pleased with it, am up to about 80 miles now. Will get chance to take it out in the morning but then got a mates 40th bbq and on Sunday am at really retro show with the Mk2. Then work and and away for a few days, going to have to wait to get some miles on it.

Quality of mVS detail is great, I’ve never used a detailer before though. Can’t fault the service of Joe at TL Darby or Ian the detailer. It’s only the 2nd time I’ve bought a new car, 1st being the Up Gti last year from inchcape Cheltenham. There was nothing bad about their service as such, delay was VW but had to keep chasing for any updates, whereas Joe has always been first with the contact and is a VW fan too.

Paid a quick visit to Caffeine and Machine, wonder if I was the first TCR? No prize 🤣


Both my wife and I purchased our Gti's from Joe at TL Darby also our daughters UP Gti.  We will be heading down to Caffeine and Machine soon in the up Gti. Is it as good as they say?????

Didn't you test drive it?  :laugh:

Yes we had the TCR for the day to test it. very nice it was to.  Is a visit to Caffeine and Machine worth it????

Sorry, I was making a bad joke, pretending that I thought your question "Is is as good as they say?" was referring to the Up! GTI.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 26 June 2019, 15:19
Very pleased with it, am up to about 80 miles now. Will get chance to take it out in the morning but then got a mates 40th bbq and on Sunday am at really retro show with the Mk2. Then work and and away for a few days, going to have to wait to get some miles on it.

Quality of mVS detail is great, I’ve never used a detailer before though. Can’t fault the service of Joe at TL Darby or Ian the detailer. It’s only the 2nd time I’ve bought a new car, 1st being the Up Gti last year from inchcape Cheltenham. There was nothing bad about their service as such, delay was VW but had to keep chasing for any updates, whereas Joe has always been first with the contact and is a VW fan too.

Paid a quick visit to Caffeine and Machine, wonder if I was the first TCR? No prize 🤣


Both my wife and I purchased our Gti's from Joe at TL Darby also our daughters UP Gti.  We will be heading down to Caffeine and Machine soon in the up Gti. Is it as good as they say?????

Didn't you test drive it?  :laugh:

Yes we had the TCR for the day to test it. very nice it was to.  Is a visit to Caffeine and Machine worth it????

Sorry, I was making a bad joke, pretending that I thought your question "Is is as good as they say?" was referring to the Up! GTI.

It was a terrible joke. We need a tumbleweed gif right now...
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 26 June 2019, 20:42
Very pleased with it, am up to about 80 miles now. Will get chance to take it out in the morning but then got a mates 40th bbq and on Sunday am at really retro show with the Mk2. Then work and and away for a few days, going to have to wait to get some miles on it.

Quality of mVS detail is great, I’ve never used a detailer before though. Can’t fault the service of Joe at TL Darby or Ian the detailer. It’s only the 2nd time I’ve bought a new car, 1st being the Up Gti last year from inchcape Cheltenham. There was nothing bad about their service as such, delay was VW but had to keep chasing for any updates, whereas Joe has always been first with the contact and is a VW fan too.

Paid a quick visit to Caffeine and Machine, wonder if I was the first TCR? No prize 🤣


Both my wife and I purchased our Gti's from Joe at TL Darby also our daughters UP Gti.  We will be heading down to Caffeine and Machine soon in the up Gti. Is it as good as they say?????

Didn't you test drive it?  :laugh:

Yes we had the TCR for the day to test it. very nice it was to.  Is a visit to Caffeine and Machine worth it????

Sorry, I was making a bad joke, pretending that I thought your question "Is is as good as they say?" was referring to the Up! GTI.

It was a terrible joke. We need a tumbleweed gif right now...

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Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 27 June 2019, 08:44


It was a terrible joke. We need a tumbleweed gif right now...

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 :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 27 June 2019, 10:05
Ok, back on subject, :grin: anyone else received, put some miles on, have any thoughts, comparisons to what changed from? photos?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Ado on 29 June 2019, 22:23
What build week has everyone got? I ordered mine in early June and just had the notification for stage 3, stage 2 was unconfirmed at week 33 so it’s moved up.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 30 June 2019, 20:08
What build week has everyone got? I ordered mine in early June and just had the notification for stage 3, stage 2 was unconfirmed at week 33 so it’s moved up.

Got the same update Saturday with same expected build week.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Ado on 02 July 2019, 15:22
When did you place your order? Mine has gone awfully quick from stage 2 to 3 considering how king it usually takes.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 02 July 2019, 22:11
When did you place your order? Mine has gone awfully quick from stage 2 to 3 considering how king it usually takes.

Are the stages as per the VW online that you access or info from dealer? There’s a massive lag between the two, dealer had the info sometimes weeks ahead of an update on the VW tracker
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sh3lldon on 02 July 2019, 22:51
Ok, back on subject, :grin: anyone else received, put some miles on, have any thoughts, comparisons to what changed from? photos?

put 1500 miles on now including a 850mile round trip over weekend, very happy with the car, anything specific you would like comment on?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Ado on 02 July 2019, 22:59

Are the stages as per the VW online that you access or info from dealer? There’s a massive lag between the two, dealer had the info sometimes weeks ahead of an update on the VW tracker

The dealer updates have been on the same day. I am just surprised it went from with the factory to confirmed build week in only one week.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 03 July 2019, 08:00
Just had build week 33 confirmed which means it should land on these shores mid September, though my lease does not complete till mid October - Imagine that makes mine a MY20 though nothing definitive out there to what that actually will be yet.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 03 July 2019, 08:23
Ok, back on subject, :grin: anyone else received, put some miles on, have any thoughts, comparisons to what changed from? photos?

put 1500 miles on now including a 850mile round trip over weekend, very happy with the car, anything specific you would like comment on?

Morning

What is your spec and what car you coming from? my interest is changing over from an R so them comparisons good to read.

In general, given you been on a long trip, the comfort, road noise etc. My R is the consummate comfortable mile eater when set in comfort but there are differences in the DCC between the R and the TCR

- Economy over a long run (not why we buy these cars, but still an interest)

One question had for a while, is there a sound aktuator? I read there was not and sound is completely native (you can check in the menu under individual as if its there, there is a setting to reduce the cabin fakery)

Finally, how you finding the style of the TCR, as for a Golf its a little less understated,
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 03 July 2019, 12:08
When did you place your order? Mine has gone awfully quick from stage 2 to 3 considering how king it usually takes.

Cant remember to be honest.  I originally ordered a while back but ending up changing the order which resulted in a new one a few weeks back.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 03 July 2019, 12:12
Just had build week 33 confirmed which means it should land on these shores mid September, though my lease does not complete till mid October - Imagine that makes mine a MY20 though nothing definitive out there to what that actually will be yet.

I'm BW 33 too (was unconfirmed as of a week ago but was expected to lock in as that).  Yep, it makes it a MY20 as think it equates to 12th August.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Ado on 03 July 2019, 12:40
Dealer confirmed its BW33 too, looks like they are building it in one big batch which makes me wonder if production is ending soon?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 03 July 2019, 14:47
Bit coincidental we have all been given same build week so maybe it is a sign of the end of the run as factory phases over to the MK 8

Not seen any sign of configurator changing to new pricing and spec that was mentioned, but sure we see soon enough.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 03 July 2019, 23:43
One question had for a while, is there a sound aktuator? I read there was not and sound is completely native (you can check in the menu under individual as if its there, there is a setting to reduce the cabin fakery)

There isn't a sound actuator. I've said this, it's in the product literature too and several reviews have mentioned it. You can make your own broom broom noises if you want to but that's not an option on the menu system.  :grin: :tongue:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 04 July 2019, 08:31
One question had for a while, is there a sound aktuator? I read there was not and sound is completely native (you can check in the menu under individual as if its there, there is a setting to reduce the cabin fakery)

There isn't a sound actuator. I've said this, it's in the product literature too and several reviews have mentioned it. You can make your own broom broom noises if you want to but that's not an option on the menu system.  :grin: :tongue:

Try to read through everything but its now a long thread so apologies if missed it, but thanks for confirming again.

Its one of my major annoyances on the R hence been seeking the answer and though you can deselect it in individual or unplug it, its a definite plus its been completely removed.

On this subject did read there will be legislation coming for electric cars to have external fakery to imitate engine noise so as to warn pedestrians, which could be a ridiculous state of affairs - Would a Primus have a sport pack ferrari sound option  :grin:

Also every electric car will have to emit a beep on reversing!

Not sure how true this article was, but pollution will be replaced by noise pollution.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sjw on 04 July 2019, 09:32
One question had for a while, is there a sound aktuator? I read there was not and sound is completely native (you can check in the menu under individual as if its there, there is a setting to reduce the cabin fakery)

There isn't a sound actuator. I've said this, it's in the product literature too and several reviews have mentioned it. You can make your own broom broom noises if you want to but that's not an option on the menu system.  :grin: :tongue:



Try to read through everything but its now a long thread so apologies if missed it, but thanks for confirming again.

Its one of my major annoyances on the R hence been seeking the answer and though you can deselect it in individual or unplug it, its a definite plus its been completely removed.

On this subject did read there will be legislation coming for electric cars to have external fakery to imitate engine noise so as to warn pedestrians, which could be a ridiculous state of affairs - Would a Primus have a sport pack ferrari sound option  :grin:

Also every electric car will have to emit a beep on reversing!

Not sure how true this article was, but pollution will be replaced by noise pollution.

Yes I gather electric cars do have to make noise up to 40mph, something like that.

Must admit that when I see Teslas go past, I'm not that impressed with how quiet they are - think the benefits must be in the cabin, as most of the time the road noise from the tyres is the biggest contributor


EDIT: Majorly f**ked the formatting up!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 July 2019, 10:14
Cars don't beep now on reverse so why would electric cars need to??
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 04 July 2019, 10:29
Cars don't beep now on reverse so why would electric cars need to??

you can hear the engine noise now and electric is silent - maybe it will just be engine fakery full stop but that was the indication.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 04 July 2019, 10:47
Cars don't beep now on reverse so why would electric cars need to??

My wife's Auris Hyrbid does - it's so fecking annoying!! Hard to tell what the sensors are doing with the beeping.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 04 July 2019, 12:02
One question had for a while, is there a sound aktuator? I read there was not and sound is completely native (you can check in the menu under individual as if its there, there is a setting to reduce the cabin fakery)

There isn't a sound actuator. I've said this, it's in the product literature too and several reviews have mentioned it. You can make your own broom broom noises if you want to but that's not an option on the menu system.  :grin: :tongue:

Try to read through everything but its now a long thread so apologies if missed it, but thanks for confirming again.

Its one of my major annoyances on the R hence been seeking the answer and though you can deselect it in individual or unplug it, its a definite plus its been completely removed.

On this subject did read there will be legislation coming for electric cars to have external fakery to imitate engine noise so as to warn pedestrians, which could be a ridiculous state of affairs - Would a Primus have a sport pack ferrari sound option  :grin:

Also every electric car will have to emit a beep on reversing!

Not sure how true this article was, but pollution will be replaced by noise pollution.

I was teasing, not having a go, no need to apologise. I know it's a major irritation.  :grin:

I think it's a really valid consideration to have an electric car emit sound but the implementation is what's key. The i8 I had produced an electro mechanical whir which did sound very sci-fi and I quite liked it but in the hubbub of London, it was lost. The amount of times people nearly stepped out on me was noticeable. If they'd look around instead of at their f&*@*! phones, it would help but still.... I'm trying out an e-Golf at the moment and I'm getting the same thing and I'm driving it in Bury St Edmunds which is considerably less congested.

But also think about people with visual impairment or those who are blind. Silent cars are a serious hazard, particularly under the shared access schemes that have been promoted. Tyre noise is your only way of really hearing a car unless there is a sound emission. It could be of variable output and be metered - the car adjusting for environment in a similar fashion to how your audio level increases to compensate for the increased noise at speed.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 04 July 2019, 12:20
One question had for a while, is there a sound aktuator? I read there was not and sound is completely native (you can check in the menu under individual as if its there, there is a setting to reduce the cabin fakery)

There isn't a sound actuator. I've said this, it's in the product literature too and several reviews have mentioned it. You can make your own broom broom noises if you want to but that's not an option on the menu system.  :grin: :tongue:

Try to read through everything but its now a long thread so apologies if missed it, but thanks for confirming again.

Its one of my major annoyances on the R hence been seeking the answer and though you can deselect it in individual or unplug it, its a definite plus its been completely removed.

On this subject did read there will be legislation coming for electric cars to have external fakery to imitate engine noise so as to warn pedestrians, which could be a ridiculous state of affairs - Would a Primus have a sport pack ferrari sound option  :grin:

Also every electric car will have to emit a beep on reversing!

Not sure how true this article was, but pollution will be replaced by noise pollution.

I was teasing, not having a go, no need to apologise. I know it's a major irritation.  :grin:

I think it's a really valid consideration to have an electric car emit sound but the implementation is what's key. The i8 I had produced an electro mechanical whir which did sound very sci-fi and I quite liked it but in the hubbub of London, it was lost. The amount of times people nearly stepped out on me was noticeable. If they'd look around instead of at their f&*@*! phones, it would help but still.... I'm trying out an e-Golf at the moment and I'm getting the same thing and I'm driving it in Bury St Edmunds which is considerably less congested.

But also think about people with visual impairment or those who are blind. Silent cars are a serious hazard, particularly under the shared access schemes that have been promoted. Tyre noise is your only way of really hearing a car unless there is a sound emission. It could be of variable output and be metered - the car adjusting for environment in a similar fashion to how your audio level increases to compensate for the increased noise at speed.

Totally agree, nearly got ran over by a lexus in an underground car park and while actually paying attention and not looking at phone (share you angst on this, #1 on my pet hate list) the lexus was just upon me before sensed it.

There definitely does need to be some audio indication, but it would need to be an agreed standard of noise type and DB leveling otherwise it would be chaotic.

This is the Audi solution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcbXplAvSc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcbXplAvSc)

The Jaguar one is this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13JwfssNI3I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13JwfssNI3I)

All very star wars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D3yGwubAcE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D3yGwubAcE)

Not entirely sure they have it right yet, with all the different synthesized sounds out there it will sound like a Kraftwerk concert on the roads, dare I say Autobahn  :grin:

This is the ridiculous that would hope to avoid! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJR3FldQo88 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJR3FldQo88)

Personally I would much prefer a produced electric sound that aligns with the electric motor than some petrol engine fakery, so lets make it sounds sport electric, a deeper winding up tone as accelerate.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 04 July 2019, 15:28
I had to get a tyre repaired today due to a big screw! One thing I didn’t expect to see was a spare tyre that’s 18 inch as I’ve got the reifnitz sport pack with 19 inch wheels.

What do others have?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 04 July 2019, 15:58
One question had for a while, is there a sound aktuator? I read there was not and sound is completely native (you can check in the menu under individual as if its there, there is a setting to reduce the cabin fakery)

There isn't a sound actuator. I've said this, it's in the product literature too and several reviews have mentioned it. You can make your own broom broom noises if you want to but that's not an option on the menu system.  :grin: :tongue:

Try to read through everything but its now a long thread so apologies if missed it, but thanks for confirming again.

Its one of my major annoyances on the R hence been seeking the answer and though you can deselect it in individual or unplug it, its a definite plus its been completely removed.

On this subject did read there will be legislation coming for electric cars to have external fakery to imitate engine noise so as to warn pedestrians, which could be a ridiculous state of affairs - Would a Primus have a sport pack ferrari sound option  :grin:

Also every electric car will have to emit a beep on reversing!

Not sure how true this article was, but pollution will be replaced by noise pollution.

I was teasing, not having a go, no need to apologise. I know it's a major irritation.  :grin:

I think it's a really valid consideration to have an electric car emit sound but the implementation is what's key. The i8 I had produced an electro mechanical whir which did sound very sci-fi and I quite liked it but in the hubbub of London, it was lost. The amount of times people nearly stepped out on me was noticeable. If they'd look around instead of at their f&*@*! phones, it would help but still.... I'm trying out an e-Golf at the moment and I'm getting the same thing and I'm driving it in Bury St Edmunds which is considerably less congested.

But also think about people with visual impairment or those who are blind. Silent cars are a serious hazard, particularly under the shared access schemes that have been promoted. Tyre noise is your only way of really hearing a car unless there is a sound emission. It could be of variable output and be metered - the car adjusting for environment in a similar fashion to how your audio level increases to compensate for the increased noise at speed.

Totally agree, nearly got ran over by a lexus in an underground car park and while actually paying attention and not looking at phone (share you angst on this, #1 on my pet hate list) the lexus was just upon me before sensed it.

There definitely does need to be some audio indication, but it would need to be an agreed standard of noise type and DB leveling otherwise it would be chaotic.

This is the Audi solution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcbXplAvSc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcbXplAvSc)

The Jaguar one is this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13JwfssNI3I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13JwfssNI3I)

All very star wars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D3yGwubAcE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D3yGwubAcE)

Not entirely sure they have it right yet, with all the different synthesized sounds out there it will sound like a Kraftwerk concert on the roads, dare I say Autobahn  :grin:

This is the ridiculous that would hope to avoid! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJR3FldQo88 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJR3FldQo88)

Personally I would much prefer a produced electric sound that aligns with the electric motor than some petrol engine fakery, so lets make it sounds sport electric, a deeper winding up tone as accelerate.

If I had to get an electric car, and had to decide what running noise it had, to be heard by pedestrians, I'd pick the howl of a Tie Fighter. :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 04 July 2019, 16:17
One question had for a while, is there a sound aktuator? I read there was not and sound is completely native (you can check in the menu under individual as if its there, there is a setting to reduce the cabin fakery)

There isn't a sound actuator. I've said this, it's in the product literature too and several reviews have mentioned it. You can make your own broom broom noises if you want to but that's not an option on the menu system.  :grin: :tongue:

Try to read through everything but its now a long thread so apologies if missed it, but thanks for confirming again.

Its one of my major annoyances on the R hence been seeking the answer and though you can deselect it in individual or unplug it, its a definite plus its been completely removed.

On this subject did read there will be legislation coming for electric cars to have external fakery to imitate engine noise so as to warn pedestrians, which could be a ridiculous state of affairs - Would a Primus have a sport pack ferrari sound option  :grin:

Also every electric car will have to emit a beep on reversing!

Not sure how true this article was, but pollution will be replaced by noise pollution.

I was teasing, not having a go, no need to apologise. I know it's a major irritation.  :grin:

I think it's a really valid consideration to have an electric car emit sound but the implementation is what's key. The i8 I had produced an electro mechanical whir which did sound very sci-fi and I quite liked it but in the hubbub of London, it was lost. The amount of times people nearly stepped out on me was noticeable. If they'd look around instead of at their f&*@*! phones, it would help but still.... I'm trying out an e-Golf at the moment and I'm getting the same thing and I'm driving it in Bury St Edmunds which is considerably less congested.

But also think about people with visual impairment or those who are blind. Silent cars are a serious hazard, particularly under the shared access schemes that have been promoted. Tyre noise is your only way of really hearing a car unless there is a sound emission. It could be of variable output and be metered - the car adjusting for environment in a similar fashion to how your audio level increases to compensate for the increased noise at speed.

Totally agree, nearly got ran over by a lexus in an underground car park and while actually paying attention and not looking at phone (share you angst on this, #1 on my pet hate list) the lexus was just upon me before sensed it.

There definitely does need to be some audio indication, but it would need to be an agreed standard of noise type and DB leveling otherwise it would be chaotic.

This is the Audi solution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcbXplAvSc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcbXplAvSc)

The Jaguar one is this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13JwfssNI3I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13JwfssNI3I)

All very star wars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D3yGwubAcE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D3yGwubAcE)

Not entirely sure they have it right yet, with all the different synthesized sounds out there it will sound like a Kraftwerk concert on the roads, dare I say Autobahn  :grin:

This is the ridiculous that would hope to avoid! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJR3FldQo88 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJR3FldQo88)

Personally I would much prefer a produced electric sound that aligns with the electric motor than some petrol engine fakery, so lets make it sounds sport electric, a deeper winding up tone as accelerate.

If I had to get an electric car, and had to decide what running noise it had, to be heard by pedestrians, I'd pick the howl of a Tie Fighter. :grin:

That would definitely be heard and have someone jump out of the way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izZm4oYpLCc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izZm4oYpLCc)

Lets hope you cannot choose your own noise like your ringtone, the roads sound like a film at an Imax
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 04 July 2019, 16:19
I had to get a tyre repaired today due to a big screw! One thing I didn’t expect to see was a spare tyre that’s 18 inch as I’ve got the reifnitz sport pack with 19 inch wheels.

What do others have?

It should be a spacesaver wheel - are you saying its a full size 18" or a skinny spacesaver?

My wife has the pump/inflate system on her A1, and what a pain that would be, rather change a wheel everytime, even to a space saver, so happy it has a real tyre in the boot
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 04 July 2019, 16:51
I had to get a tyre repaired today due to a big screw! One thing I didn’t expect to see was a spare tyre that’s 18 inch as I’ve got the reifnitz sport pack with 19 inch wheels.

What do others have?

It should be a spacesaver wheel - are you saying its a full size 18" or a skinny spacesaver?

My wife has the pump/inflate system on her A1, and what a pain that would be, rather change a wheel everytime, even to a space saver, so happy it has a real tyre in the boot

Yes, definitely prefer a spare wheel but I’m sure I’d read that if you get the 19 inch wheels you only get the repair spray stuff. All good though
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sjw on 05 July 2019, 10:58
I had to get a tyre repaired today due to a big screw! One thing I didn’t expect to see was a spare tyre that’s 18 inch as I’ve got the reifnitz sport pack with 19 inch wheels.

What do others have?

It should be a spacesaver wheel - are you saying its a full size 18" or a skinny spacesaver?

My wife has the pump/inflate system on her A1, and what a pain that would be, rather change a wheel everytime, even to a space saver, so happy it has a real tyre in the boot

Yes, definitely prefer a spare wheel but I’m sure I’d read that if you get the 19 inch wheels you only get the repair spray stuff. All good though

I've got 19" wheels, and a space saver. Not sure how big it is, and I've used it! Didn't even think. GTI PP, MY2018
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: graham9883 on 06 July 2019, 12:46
https://www.flickr.com/photos/182462456@N07/48204439507/in/dateposted-public/

Here my tcr had it a few weeks now. Love it so far.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 07 July 2019, 10:28
https://www.flickr.com/photos/182462456@N07/48204439507/in/dateposted-public/

Here my tcr had it a few weeks now. Love it so far.

Looks good in white with those wheels!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 08 July 2019, 12:36
https://www.flickr.com/photos/182462456@N07/48204439507/in/dateposted-public/

Here my tcr had it a few weeks now. Love it so far.

Looks good in white with those wheels!

Saw a white TCR at Milton Keynes and really did not like it as it had black roof, sunroof and 90% tints plus the black wheels and the balance of contrast was more 50-50 opposed to maybe 70-30, 80-20 %

Think you have got the TCR in white looking at its best, think the wheels are better than the standard options, give a real presence, but with a better blend and the car remains predominately white with just the trim contrasts enhancing. So good job!!

How you finding the drive? what came from as comparison?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 09 July 2019, 00:15
https://www.flickr.com/photos/182462456@N07/48204439507/in/dateposted-public/

Here my tcr had it a few weeks now. Love it so far.

Looks good in white with those wheels!

Agree with that, like it in white. First owner car I think I've seen in white.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: graham9883 on 09 July 2019, 10:59
Yeah im really happy with it. I come from a 1.4 r-line.
So far ive changed wheels. Lowered. Dog bone insert.  Res delete. Pikey r600 airbox mod. 
I was thinking  of doing the roof black but not sure yet.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 10 July 2019, 14:50

I was thinking  of doing the roof black but not sure yet.

I was always a bit anti black roof until I got my Clubsport.
If ultra conservative VW spec black roofs then I guess they must be socially acceptable now!
I still feel a bit of a t!t getting out of a Golf with side decals and a black roof at times being the wrong side of 50 never mind 40 so I can see why older buyers like the ultra restrained look of the R, but to hell with it, black roofs look quite good on certain Golfs in certain colours.
The little spoiler lip on the TCR serves as a natural end point for a black roof decal.
Go for it, you can always take it off again if you hate it and it’ll stop bird crap etching roof paint.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 30 July 2019, 09:14
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-clarkson-review-vw-golf-gti-tcr-versus-mercedes-amg-a-35-hcmpm2f75 (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-clarkson-review-vw-golf-gti-tcr-versus-mercedes-amg-a-35-hcmpm2f75)

https://www.driving.co.uk/news/jeremy-clarkson-hot-hatch-better-mercedes-amg-a35-volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr/

Clarkson makes it a draw with TCR vs the A35 AMG which I would take given the A35 has more horses and AWD - He is very much a GTI fan as it was his daily for a long time and good to read he not disappointed in the run out model and appreciates it as a genuine lift
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 30 July 2019, 11:48
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-clarkson-review-vw-golf-gti-tcr-versus-mercedes-amg-a-35-hcmpm2f75 (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-clarkson-review-vw-golf-gti-tcr-versus-mercedes-amg-a-35-hcmpm2f75)

https://www.driving.co.uk/news/jeremy-clarkson-hot-hatch-better-mercedes-amg-a35-volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr/

Clarkson makes it a draw with TCR vs the A35 AMG which I would take given the A35 has more horses and AWD - He is very much a GTI fan as it was his daily for a long time and good to read he not disappointed in the run out model and appreciates it as a genuine lift

I know you considered an A35 but for me, these just aren't 2 cars you'd compare or consider against each other. A35 against the R, yes. But the TCR is aimed at the hot hatch enthusiast so more Megane RS, Civic Type R or Cupra R. (of which realistically most existing VW drivers wouldn't probably even consider 2 of those options).
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 30 July 2019, 12:56
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-clarkson-review-vw-golf-gti-tcr-versus-mercedes-amg-a-35-hcmpm2f75 (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-clarkson-review-vw-golf-gti-tcr-versus-mercedes-amg-a-35-hcmpm2f75)

https://www.driving.co.uk/news/jeremy-clarkson-hot-hatch-better-mercedes-amg-a35-volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr/

Clarkson makes it a draw with TCR vs the A35 AMG which I would take given the A35 has more horses and AWD - He is very much a GTI fan as it was his daily for a long time and good to read he not disappointed in the run out model and appreciates it as a genuine lift

I know you considered an A35 but for me, these just aren't 2 cars you'd compare or consider against each other. A35 against the R, yes. But the TCR is aimed at the hot hatch enthusiast so more Megane RS, Civic Type R or Cupra R. (of which realistically most existing VW drivers wouldn't probably even consider 2 of those options).

When I looked at the A35 AMG it was as a direct R replacement and the reason looked was to see if the cabin tech would sway me as expected the cars to be very similar head to head in driving abilities - Initially the tech did wow me, went back a few times to check the car over in the flesh but eventually the overall cost to get car wanted and some calming down on the tech swayed me to stay with the R - Reason went for the GTI - TCR was because it retained the R pace but would give me a different driving experience and that leads to why this is a strange comparison to make as any AWD vs FWD/RWD is as the AWD adds the weight and obviously makes any getaway seamless.

Still, there is positive comment to overall livability and Clarkson still comes over as a GTI convert with his sublime narrative.

Still a little wait till mine, from what understand the build starts in about 2 weeks for a mid -sept delivery to UK, though I will then have to wait till October till lease runs down - Loving my R though, put over a 1000 miles on it on last 2 weeks, really pleasurable motoring through the best the country gives us in beauty (Jurassic coast and on into Cotswolds)

Not many UK reviews about and none at all mentioning the much talked about MY20 and the Akrapovich addition and VW UK site still at old pricing.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 30 July 2019, 13:59
Clarkson being a feature/columnist writer would get offered whatever models are being promoted and doing the press promo rounds. It must be a quiet time of year.

I guess the point of the comparison is the fact as standard the A35 looks like a base model Diesel and the Golf R doesn’t exactly grab ones attention visually unless you’re a Golf enthusiast.

So a comparison of a winged A35 loaded with extras and a TCR also with optional packages isn’t an unlikely one from a prospective buyers perspective and they’re head to head in BHP & ££££. Maybe it’s assumed that as the R and GTI have been around a good while owners are looking for something newer and very slightly different, but not too different.
4WD isn’t everything and can still bog down on launch if not in full traffic light race mode. The VAQ diff claws a lot of traction back.
This is quite a good head to head from the point of view of a buyer that doesn’t want Uber stealth looks but still wants a classy German hatch that packs a punch. A slightly less Q car than an R or standard A35.

Goes to show once again that after six or seven years the MQB Golfs still cut the mustard against much newer opposition and that now it’s seemingly likely the next gen GTI/R *won’t* have that extra 48v electric thrust now that unless you’re a touchscreen junkie the game hasn’t really moved on.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 30 July 2019, 14:26
Clarkson being a feature/columnist writer would get offered whatever models are being promoted and doing the press promo rounds. It must be a quiet time of year.

I guess the point of the comparison is the fact as standard the A35 looks like a base model Diesel and the Golf R doesn’t exactly grab ones attention visually unless you’re a Golf enthusiast.

So a comparison of a winged A35 loaded with extras and a TCR also with optional packages isn’t an unlikely one from a prospective buyers perspective and they’re head to head in BHP & ££££. Maybe it’s assumed that as the R and GTI have been around a good while owners are looking for something newer and very slightly different, but not too different.
4WD isn’t everything and can still bog down on launch if not in full traffic light race mode. The VAQ diff claws a lot of traction back.
This is quite a good head to head from the point of view of a buyer that doesn’t want Uber stealth looks but still wants a classy German hatch that packs a punch. A slightly less Q car than an R or standard A35.

Goes to show once again that after six or seven years the MQB Golfs still cut the mustard against much newer opposition and that now it’s seemingly likely the next gen GTI/R *won’t* have that extra 48v electric thrust now that unless you’re a touchscreen junkie the game hasn’t really moved on.

Yep, get all you say, and as packages with their own little variances he could not split them which is more a win for the GTI than the new on the road AMG - I liked the A35 AMG could see myself in one, it was down to the fine differences in the end where on other cars you dismiss readily and early.

Feel VW have missed a trick on not going straight into 48 v with the MK 8 as that is revolution and sure they could have told a good story to the performance benefits in terms of the GTI and R.

Be really interesting to see if putting all eggs into the basket of sweeping interior tech and more semi and autonomous driving excites folk as they are hoping? though maybe my malaise is because I am in the IT industry that its just another set of screens, operating systems and graphics to look at.

Maybe they think the underlying car is so good they can get away with dumping the 48 v for now and saving it for a later wow moment, or maybe it just did not work as well as hoped? (though doubt that is case)

The 48 v addition interests me, but the MK 8 is seemingly more and more a MK 7.75 and if purchasing soon I would have my money on hold for the MK 8 release and waiting to secure a MK 7.5 at a forecourt clearing discount.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 30 July 2019, 18:38
We can guess and surmise forever here about the 48v electrics. Could be so many different things. tech issues, supply issues (bearing in mind other cars such as the ID range about to come on stream, cost (keeping in mind the R and GTI have a lot of direct competition now), saving a slot for a higher powered model to take on the A45/possible future M140i at a higher price point but still undercutting and not treading on the toes of the RS3...

I think it’s a real shame it’s been dropped for the time being, the main attraction of a mk8 R would be that 48v motor giving lightning off the line acceleration and low running costs.



Back to TCRs, I’ve now seen three!
The Pure Grey showroom car at VW Exeter, another grey I saw from time to time between Exeter and Newton Abbot on the coast road and now I’ve seen Murray VW Newton Abbot’s demo white TCR which I thought looked really nice too.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 30 July 2019, 19:14
We can guess and surmise forever here about the 48v electrics. Could be so many different things. tech issues, supply issues (bearing in mind other cars such as the ID range about to come on stream, cost (keeping in mind the R and GTI have a lot of direct competition now), saving a slot for a higher powered model to take on the A45/possible future M140i at a higher price point but still undercutting and not treading on the toes of the RS3...

I think it’s a real shame it’s been dropped for the time being, the main attraction of a mk8 R would be that 48v motor giving lightning off the line acceleration and low running costs.



Back to TCRs, I’ve now seen three!
The Pure Grey showroom car at VW Exeter, another grey I saw from time to time between Exeter and Newton Abbot on the coast road and now I’ve seen Murray VW Newton Abbot’s demo white TCR which I thought looked really nice too.

Think it’s likely a mix of all you stated and just too much to roll out at one time effectively which by passing gives them another ta da moment for let’s say the MK 8.5

Since the TCR has come out I have travelled about 2500 miles and am yet to see one off the forecourt ( not seen my pure grey car in flesh at all! That’s never happened to me so close to receiving on a newer model), which is same for the ClubSport so as much as sure a few have been sold the fact that a well established forum for the GTI only has a handful of members getting TCR it’s going to be a relatively rare sight against the many GTI PP and R see
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: o`Neil on 30 July 2019, 19:46
Spotted my first TCR yesterday in Chesterfied  :cool:


IIRC the reg ended in TCR.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 31 July 2019, 00:07
Thinking about it I haven’t seen another on the road since getting mine a month ago and I live less than half a mile from a VW dealership (not the one I bought from), not sure if they’ve had any in, but certainly not seen any about
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 01 August 2019, 07:36
Back to TCRs, I’ve now seen three!
The Pure Grey showroom car at VW Exeter, another grey I saw from time to time between Exeter and Newton Abbot on the coast road and now I’ve seen Murray VW Newton Abbot’s demo white TCR which I thought looked really nice too.

I keep seeing the same one every day, usually in the morning and evening.  :grin:

I haven't read the Clarkson review, The Times paywall kept me out.

While he likes the GTI in general, I don't think he has any qualms about complaining or saying what he feels. But I must confess to being surprised that he likes it as much as he does.

Thought we'd all be talking about the Megane Trophy R at £72k (https://www.topgear.com/car-news/hot-hatch/heres-why-new-renault-megane-trophy-r-costs-ps72k#1) and what great value the TCR is in comparison (I know it's not Apples and Apples)....


Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 01 August 2019, 08:14
Back to TCRs, I’ve now seen three!
The Pure Grey showroom car at VW Exeter, another grey I saw from time to time between Exeter and Newton Abbot on the coast road and now I’ve seen Murray VW Newton Abbot’s demo white TCR which I thought looked really nice too.

I keep seeing the same one every day, usually in the morning and evening.  :grin:

I haven't read the Clarkson review, The Times paywall kept me out.

While he likes the GTI in general, I don't think he has any qualms about complaining or saying what he feels. But I must confess to being surprised that he likes it as much as he does.

Thought we'd all be talking about the Megane Trophy R at £72k (https://www.topgear.com/car-news/hot-hatch/heres-why-new-renault-megane-trophy-r-costs-ps72k#1) and what great value the TCR is in comparison (I know it's not Apples and Apples)....

I am sure the Megane Trophy R is quite a drive but you could pretty much 2 x TCR on drive for the price - Its a lot of money for a hot hatch no matter how impressive the numbers - Like you said its not apples and apples, but in terms of interior and quality its not a car sitting in that feels like £72,000, imagine the stripped out ClubSport S still feels like a nice place to be and at more than half the price.

If I had £72,000 I would be looking Porsche and not sure what that would get me, but pretty sure it would feel more like the £72,000 spent when sitting in it.

Not really running the Megane down as its obviously a hard edged special thats not overly easy to make direct comparisons but more likely to be looking at the A45 or RS3 if spending that money in this segment
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 01 August 2019, 09:59
A Renault Megane for £72k?
I could only think of Alan partridge’s classic quote -

With a mere ninety break-horse-power available, progress is too leisurely to be called fast, but on the motorway in fifth gear the Megane’s slow pace really becomes a pain. Uphill runs become power-sappingly mundane, while overtaking National Express coaches can become a long, drawn-out affair.” Not my words, Carol. The words of Top Gear magazine. Hello?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 02 August 2019, 15:59
https://youtu.be/0YWGWoFCwlM

A good watch here from Volkswizard.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 04 August 2019, 00:37
https://youtu.be/0YWGWoFCwlM

A good watch here from Volkswizard.

:afro:  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 05 August 2019, 12:50
What an earth is going on here with this TCR? Think they are going to struggle to sell this, black isn't the best colour and horrendously painted non-TCR wheels.  Very odd for a nearly new car.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sgLDSH2h/Screenshot-2019-08-05-at-12-45-35.png) (https://postimages.org/)

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201907069779547?sort=sponsored&model=GOLF&make=VOLKSWAGEN&advertising-location=at_cars&aggregatedTrim=GTI%20TCR&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=s37bh&radius=1500&page=1
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 05 August 2019, 13:14
Feel VW have missed a trick on not going straight into 48 v with the MK 8 as that is revolution and sure they could have told a good story to the performance benefits in terms of the GTI and R.

I do too - there has to be a reason why this didn't happen though and it has to be something quite significant because every OEM needs to be showing their green credentials.

However, it was only ever going to be a 48v mild hybrid, not a "true" hybrid providing electric boost.

The proposed system is the same as the Passat *did* get - 48v electric start (with engine off coasting), electric turbo, all electric systems run from the 48v battery pack and charging from brake recovery.

All of that is about scraping arguably very small amounts of CO2 output back. The theory being that a million Golf's on the road all produce a few Kg less CO2 per year adding up to a fair old amount across the world.

The Mk8 does bring in theory less weight (which would be offset by the 48v system ironically), a larger boot and what we all seem to currently believe is an uglier shape :-/
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 05 August 2019, 13:38
Feel VW have missed a trick on not going straight into 48 v with the MK 8 as that is revolution and sure they could have told a good story to the performance benefits in terms of the GTI and R.

I do too - there has to be a reason why this didn't happen though and it has to be something quite significant because every OEM needs to be showing their green credentials.

However, it was only ever going to be a 48v mild hybrid, not a "true" hybrid providing electric boost.

The proposed system is the same as the Passat *did* get - 48v electric start (with engine off coasting), electric turbo, all electric systems run from the 48v battery pack and charging from brake recovery.

All of that is about scraping arguably very small amounts of CO2 output back. The theory being that a million Golf's on the road all produce a few Kg less CO2 per year adding up to a fair old amount across the world.

The Mk8 does bring in theory less weight (which would be offset by the 48v system ironically), a larger boot and what we all seem to currently believe is an uglier shape :-/

Latest evo article with the GTI camo pictures suggests the use of a 12v system still?

Despite the threat of widespread mass-hybridisation within the Volkswagen Group, the Mk8 Golf GTI will likely retain its 2-litre turbocharged petrol engine, and instead include possible mild-hybrid assistance, perhaps in the form of the 12V system as seen in the recent Audi A4 TFSI with which it shares its engine. This system is designed to ‘trim’ the petrol engine’s outputs, by recuperating energy and deploying it back into the electrical systems rather than directly assisting drive as in other mild-hybrids.

https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf-gti/22866/new-2020-mk8-volkswagen-golf-gti-spied-for-the-first-time
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 05 August 2019, 13:46
Feel VW have missed a trick on not going straight into 48 v with the MK 8 as that is revolution and sure they could have told a good story to the performance benefits in terms of the GTI and R.

I do too - there has to be a reason why this didn't happen though and it has to be something quite significant because every OEM needs to be showing their green credentials.

However, it was only ever going to be a 48v mild hybrid, not a "true" hybrid providing electric boost.

The proposed system is the same as the Passat *did* get - 48v electric start (with engine off coasting), electric turbo, all electric systems run from the 48v battery pack and charging from brake recovery.

All of that is about scraping arguably very small amounts of CO2 output back. The theory being that a million Golf's on the road all produce a few Kg less CO2 per year adding up to a fair old amount across the world.

The Mk8 does bring in theory less weight (which would be offset by the 48v system ironically), a larger boot and what we all seem to currently believe is an uglier shape :-/
IMO - VW are treading very carefully with their GTI brand that is established and is currently as good as it’s ever been. I think they have tried it but are not satisfied with how the tech works/feels in the GTI’s ethos. If they get it wrong it could be £catastrophic, so they are being cautious and rolling out to other brands (Skoda) first.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 05 August 2019, 13:46
https://youtu.be/0YWGWoFCwlM

A good watch here from Volkswizard.

Bit of a bold statement as being the best GTI ever! - been enjoying my R as clock ticks down on its ownership but must admit starting to look at October with some anticipation now, :) My first GTI
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 05 August 2019, 16:09
What an earth is going on here with this TCR? Think they are going to struggle to sell this, black isn't the best colour and horrendously painted non-TCR wheels.  Very odd for a nearly new car.



https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201907069779547?sort=sponsored&model=GOLF&make=VOLKSWAGEN&advertising-location=at_cars&aggregatedTrim=GTI%20TCR&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=s37bh&radius=1500&page=1

I noticed that one trawling through the VW used car search at work last week.
A few question marks over the colour scheme!  :grin:

They obviously wanted to make a statement in their showroom!


https://youtu.be/0YWGWoFCwlM

A good watch here from Volkswizard.

Bit of a bold statement as being the best GTI ever! - been enjoying my R as clock ticks down on its ownership but must admit starting to look at October with some anticipation now, :) My first GTI

He’s got a bit of experience in the area!
Plus I’m sure he didn’t get any financial assistance from JKM...

I’d agree with his assessment though.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Vwjap on 05 August 2019, 20:04
Saw one for the first time today when picking up mine from service, looked nice
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 06 August 2019, 09:14
What an earth is going on here with this TCR? Think they are going to struggle to sell this, black isn't the best colour and horrendously painted non-TCR wheels.  Very odd for a nearly new car.



https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201907069779547?sort=sponsored&model=GOLF&make=VOLKSWAGEN&advertising-location=at_cars&aggregatedTrim=GTI%20TCR&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=s37bh&radius=1500&page=1

I noticed that one trawling through the VW used car search at work last week.
A few question marks over the colour scheme!  :grin:

They obviously wanted to make a statement in their showroom!


https://youtu.be/0YWGWoFCwlM

A good watch here from Volkswizard.

Bit of a bold statement as being the best GTI ever! - been enjoying my R as clock ticks down on its ownership but must admit starting to look at October with some anticipation now, :) My first GTI

He’s got a bit of experience in the area!
Plus I’m sure he didn’t get any financial assistance from JKM...

I’d agree with his assessment though.

Thats a ruined TCR right there! Black is not a great colour for the MK 7.5 anyway given the increased body features that get lost and thats more so on the TCR and there is more than enough red accents without adding them to the wheels! Less is more sometimes and this proves that adage  :grin:

I am a subscriber to Andrew YouTube and like his style of presentation as its easy on the eyes and ears, just like talking to someone who shares your interests over a beer and he is of course knowledgeable as he has been hands on with these cars for years. His opinion on the previous TCR video he did allayed some of the nervousness had of choosing the TCR over the R and this latest video in comparison to the clubsport has only strengthened that.

Been enjoying my R, appreciating it more now know its going but must admit at the tipping point now and want to get behind the wheel on the TCR - about 8 weeks wait now.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 06 August 2019, 09:26
https://youtu.be/0YWGWoFCwlM

A good watch here from Volkswizard.

Bit of a bold statement as being the best GTI ever! - been enjoying my R as clock ticks down on its ownership but must admit starting to look at October with some anticipation now, :) My first GTI

Technically though, he is probably right. As Andrew points out, The CSS loses what makes the GTI what it is - a practical hot hatch and therefore limits the appeal. The CS is probably the perfect one, with buckets but the TCR has the added appeal of all the power all the time and the modern feel of the 7.5. It's a massive shame the TCR can't be spec'd with buckets though as that would have made it very special. It's on my list for possible replacements next year. But it does need a different spoiler, the more I see pictures the more the diffuser looks too big for the tiny excuse of a spoiler.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 06 August 2019, 09:41
It's on my list for possible replacements next year.

Where are you going to find one next year? If you haven't ordered one now, you won't get one will you? Mk7.5 production will end with the summer shutdown and Mk8 begin...

There is still a lot of speculation about the naming of the two new GTI Mk8's. Most stories suggest two versions, like the Mk7. Some say the new PP will be "TCR" and some say its "club" or "cup". Who knows!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 06 August 2019, 10:08
https://youtu.be/0YWGWoFCwlM

A good watch here from Volkswizard.

Bit of a bold statement as being the best GTI ever! - been enjoying my R as clock ticks down on its ownership but must admit starting to look at October with some anticipation now, :) My first GTI

Technically though, he is probably right. As Andrew points out, The CSS loses what makes the GTI what it is - a practical hot hatch and therefore limits the appeal. The CS is probably the perfect one, with buckets but the TCR has the added appeal of all the power all the time and the modern feel of the 7.5. It's a massive shame the TCR can't be spec'd with buckets though as that would have made it very special. It's on my list for possible replacements next year. But it does need a different spoiler, the more I see pictures the more the diffuser looks too big for the tiny excuse of a spoiler.

The changes I would make -

Get the bucket seats but not essential for me
definitely the Alcantara Steering Wheel
Definitely the CS Spoiler
Definitely Black Gloss Caps (Will have these ready to go on when receive)

That would make it as close to how would want to see it - however, in reality small items and not really going to taint it too much as a daily experience)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 06 August 2019, 10:12
It's on my list for possible replacements next year.

Where are you going to find one next year? If you haven't ordered one now, you won't get one will you? Mk7.5 production will end with the summer shutdown and Mk8 begin...

There is still a lot of speculation about the naming of the two new GTI Mk8's. Most stories suggest two versions, like the Mk7. Some say the new PP will be "TCR" and some say its "club" or "cup". Who knows!

From what understand also the PP will in essence be the TCR in terms of power etc, and maybe just called the MK 8 TCR and PP gets dropped, not sure?

Think there will be a few TCR floating around on second hand market and given how fickle some are for the newest and greatest the MK 8 should you think make for some late MK 7 bargains.

The only thing I am going to change on the TCR is the Caps, from that rubbish Matte finish to the Gloss, and might get a clear boot/bumper protector as my R has got a few minor scrapes there.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 06 August 2019, 10:22
It's on my list for possible replacements next year.

Where are you going to find one next year? If you haven't ordered one now, you won't get one will you? Mk7.5 production will end with the summer shutdown and Mk8 begin...

There is still a lot of speculation about the naming of the two new GTI Mk8's. Most stories suggest two versions, like the Mk7. Some say the new PP will be "TCR" and some say its "club" or "cup". Who knows!

I imagine I’ll find one on Autotrader...! I’m not talking about buying new, wouldn’t buy new with my own money!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 06 August 2019, 13:07
Hello all,

New to posting to the forum but have been reading for a while.  Took delivery of my TCR last week, 3 door, Oryx with black / pan roof and (naughty I know) body coloured mirrors as I felt the black matt, or gloss, didn't really work with the already very black and white car.  Marmite colour choice I realise but it does look amazing in the metal.

Not 100% sure how to link to / insert a hosted image but will try this https://i.postimg.cc/TPrXcLXT/tcr.jpg (https://i.postimg.cc/TPrXcLXT/tcr.jpg)

Phil
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Post by: fredgroves on 06 August 2019, 13:17
That looks stunning Phil!

Very jealous!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 06 August 2019, 13:34
Hello all,

New to posting to the forum but have been reading for a while.  Took delivery of my TCR last week, 3 door, Oryx with black / pan roof and (naughty I know) body coloured mirrors as I felt the black matt, or gloss, didn't really work with the already very black and white car.  Marmite colour choice I realise but it does look amazing in the metal.

Not 100% sure how to link to / insert a hosted image but will try this https://i.postimg.cc/TPrXcLXT/tcr.jpg (https://i.postimg.cc/TPrXcLXT/tcr.jpg)

Phil

Subtle but very noticeable change in look just by changing the Mirror caps, makes the white flow as a single pane - Oryx is also a much nicer colour than the plain white and so the effect again is different

The White TCR I saw in MK fell a little bit flat with me, as it was too busy but the two differences of the uplifted paint and the colour coded caps definitely works to the better and agree looks stunning

What car did you come from? how finding the TCR in comparison, and are you past the 1000 mile mark to be able to push the car that bit more?

8 weeks for me to receive, so still handing onto others experiences to keep me going haha,
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 06 August 2019, 14:26
Thanks for the appreciative comments, and I’m relieved that you share my thoughts around what I had started to consider being a bit of an odd choice but which has turned out well.

Previous daily was a 2016 3 door DSG PP in Pure white which I had decided to keep for a good few years as it really did everything I wanted in terms of all round ability.  That changed when VW announced there would be no more 3 door GTI’s and the idea of having a combination of TCR spec with the last of a long, long line was too much to resist.

Courtesy of our regular weekend trips from the Midlands to Norfolk the TCR is now at just over 800 miles so it has been gently(!) extended and the best way I can describe the car is like the PP but turned up to 11.  The performance is effortless in comparison and mid-range I’d say is on a par with the C63 coupe I changed for the PP (lovely car but with my commute it averaged 13 mpg which was frankly silly).  The interior is a wonderful place to be and, as has been said by many far more qualified than I am to write about cars, it just does everything so well.  Sitting at a steady cruise on the A14/A11 the TCR is comfortable and quiet, get to an empty stretch (new Elveden bypass works well late in the evening…) and it becomes every bit the performance car, not just a hot hatch.  A comment much earlier in this thread “there will always be a GTI in my garage” sums it up perfectly – I really cannot think of another car I’ve owned or driven that is such a complete package.

It will be well worth the wait Hertsman!

Phil
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 06 August 2019, 14:34
For ease of viewing!

(https://i.postimg.cc/yYK39SkM/tcr.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Have to say as others, that looks great in Oryx, nice to see a 3 door too, perfect :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 06 August 2019, 16:19
Welcome Philip and what a stunning TCR  :cool:

You’ve nailed it with that car, perfect  :afro:





(And well done Watts for the image insertion) 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 06 August 2019, 16:28
Looks brilliant! You must be very pleased indeed!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 06 August 2019, 16:42

There is still a lot of speculation about the naming of the two new GTI Mk8's. Most stories suggest two versions, like the Mk7. Some say the new PP will be "TCR" and some say its "club" or "cup". Who knows!

From what understand also the PP will in essence be the TCR in terms of power etc, and maybe just called the MK 8 TCR and PP gets dropped, not sure?

I absolutely agree that the TCR is here to stay in Mk8 form. It’s a trim level of gti just like the PP was. They will definitely have two power levels of gti imo. It’d be really interesting to see what percentage of people buy what model in mk8 form as in Mk7. Was the PP more popular?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 06 August 2019, 17:30
Thanks for sorting that Watts, and thank you all for the kind words.  I am very pleased indeed with the TCR  :wink:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 06 August 2019, 17:47
Thanks for sorting that Watts, and thank you all for the kind words.  I am very pleased indeed with the TCR  :wink:

Have you tried changing lanes with it yet? (I am showing my age  :whistle:)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 07 August 2019, 09:23
Thanks for the appreciative comments, and I’m relieved that you share my thoughts around what I had started to consider being a bit of an odd choice but which has turned out well.

Previous daily was a 2016 3 door DSG PP in Pure white which I had decided to keep for a good few years as it really did everything I wanted in terms of all round ability.  That changed when VW announced there would be no more 3 door GTI’s and the idea of having a combination of TCR spec with the last of a long, long line was too much to resist.

Courtesy of our regular weekend trips from the Midlands to Norfolk the TCR is now at just over 800 miles so it has been gently(!) extended and the best way I can describe the car is like the PP but turned up to 11.  The performance is effortless in comparison and mid-range I’d say is on a par with the C63 coupe I changed for the PP (lovely car but with my commute it averaged 13 mpg which was frankly silly).  The interior is a wonderful place to be and, as has been said by many far more qualified than I am to write about cars, it just does everything so well.  Sitting at a steady cruise on the A14/A11 the TCR is comfortable and quiet, get to an empty stretch (new Elveden bypass works well late in the evening…) and it becomes every bit the performance car, not just a hot hatch.  A comment much earlier in this thread “there will always be a GTI in my garage” sums it up perfectly – I really cannot think of another car I’ve owned or driven that is such a complete package.

It will be well worth the wait Hertsman!

Phil

We head up to Cromer 2-3 times a year and go to Centerparc at Elveden yearly, so know them roads well and look forward to cross referencing your experience :)

I looked hard over the fence at each of my last 3 changeovers since originally moving from Audi A3 Quattro 60 plate to a 63 plate GTD which at the time was revelation for me in drive experience (Quattro was a manual SLine and harsh ride) - The additions to my experience of DSG + DCC+ Auto Hold kept me with the brand and obviously added a ton of performance by skipping the GTI and moving up to an R - This time around I looked and was nearly swayed by the A35 AMG but decided to stay with the R to which I was then swayed by the TCR - There was none to test drive, had to make the selection, so as GTI was a scratch never itched I took the plunge and then had a nervous moment of what I was giving up in the AWD capability

However now the TCR is out there in the wild, each review has allayed my fears and am really looking forward to my first GTI and for once being able to have someone recognise the car drive if mention it (Unless you know your cars stating drive an R usually brings a blank look :))

Really want to see how the TCR and R compares, the clincher was the retaining of the BHP as really was reluctant to lose that on the move pace got so used to now, - know the R so well now that should pick up on the differences quite quickly both positive and negative

If you were to get a white think yours is the spec you would wish it to be, so good job and maybe give you a nod as spot you on the A11/A14 run one day :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 07 August 2019, 16:56
Thanks for sorting that Watts, and thank you all for the kind words.  I am very pleased indeed with the TCR  :wink:

Have you tried changing lanes with it yet? (I am showing my age  :whistle:)

I remember it well but more of a Scalextric fan.  The first time lane assist *tried* to assist was not unlike the original TCR experience :)  Now turned off...
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Guzzle on 10 August 2019, 15:21
What an earth is going on here with this TCR? Think they are going to struggle to sell this, black isn't the best colour and horrendously painted non-TCR wheels.  Very odd for a nearly new car.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sgLDSH2h/Screenshot-2019-08-05-at-12-45-35.png) (https://postimages.org/)

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201907069779547?sort=sponsored&model=GOLF&make=VOLKSWAGEN&advertising-location=at_cars&aggregatedTrim=GTI%20TCR&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=s37bh&radius=1500&page=1

It appears those wheels are VW originals;-

https://shops.volkswagen.com/en_GB/web/zubehoer/p/leichtmetallfelge-twinspoke-7-5-j-x-19-red-edition-5g0071499--ya5-14?category=4317:904_VWZ_OZ:Category

I'm sure I could think of better ways to spend €1600, but we're all different, eh?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 10 August 2019, 21:16
What an earth is going on here with this TCR? Think they are going to struggle to sell this, black isn't the best colour and horrendously painted non-TCR wheels.  Very odd for a nearly new car.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sgLDSH2h/Screenshot-2019-08-05-at-12-45-35.png) (https://postimages.org/)

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201907069779547?sort=sponsored&model=GOLF&make=VOLKSWAGEN&advertising-location=at_cars&aggregatedTrim=GTI%20TCR&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=s37bh&radius=1500&page=1

It appears those wheels are VW originals;-

https://shops.volkswagen.com/en_GB/web/zubehoer/p/leichtmetallfelge-twinspoke-7-5-j-x-19-red-edition-5g0071499--ya5-14?category=4317:904_VWZ_OZ:Category

I'm sure I could think of better ways to spend €1600, but we're all different, eh?

Money doesn’t equal taste. Just look at Lewis Hamilton.

The car has been up for a bit which should be no surprise based on those horrendous alloys. The colour also does the car no favours as you say. Hard, hard sell.

Still not seen a TCR in the flesh but autotrader is filling up nicely with them.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 11 August 2019, 00:24
I went to stage 3 on 29th of June (build week confirmed) but no movement since. I thought VW worked on a 4 week plan so was expecting to move to stage 4 by now. Anyone seeing the same?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 11 August 2019, 07:04
I went to stage 3 on 29th of June (build week confirmed) but no movement since. I thought VW worked on a 4 week plan so was expecting to move to stage 4 by now. Anyone seeing the same?

It’s probably the tracker that’s inaccurate and hasn’t been updated. On uk-polos.net, some owners have taken delivery of their cars and the tracker still shows them as being in transit from the factory to the dealer.

Best to check with your dealer or VW Customer Services, who should have more accurate, up to date information.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Crockers on 11 August 2019, 08:51
It's an ex demo. So the dealer put those wheels on. WTF....chav dealer in North Yorkshire..
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 11 August 2019, 09:58
It's an ex demo. So the dealer put those wheels on. WTF....chav dealer in North Yorkshire..
I bought my current golf from Lookers Northallerton and they certainly aren't a "Chav" dealer whatever that is. Never heard such a stupid comment on a forum before!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Ado on 11 August 2019, 10:04
I went to stage 3 on 29th of June (build week confirmed) but no movement since. I thought VW worked on a 4 week plan so was expecting to move to stage 4 by now. Anyone seeing the same?

Mine was also confirmed on 26th but build week was for 33(this week), seems most TCR is for build this week so maybe they’ll all come off the production line togerther.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 11 August 2019, 19:13
The only thing I am going to change on the TCR is the Caps, from that rubbish Matte finish to the Gloss, and might get a clear boot/bumper protector as my R has got a few minor scrapes there.

Hold off on changing the caps till you see the car, it's not as bad as I thought it would be. There are sufficient matt plastics on the bumpers and if you take the reifnitz wheels, they are a matt finish which ties them in. If you've gone for gloss Pretoria in black, I think then I'd change the mirror caps. Personally, I think gloss would be too shiny and the designers got it right. Which is entirely different to my view prior to getting the car.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 12 August 2019, 09:19
The only thing I am going to change on the TCR is the Caps, from that rubbish Matte finish to the Gloss, and might get a clear boot/bumper protector as my R has got a few minor scrapes there.

Hold off on changing the caps till you see the car, it's not as bad as I thought it would be. There are sufficient matt plastics on the bumpers and if you take the reifnitz wheels, they are a matt finish which ties them in. If you've gone for gloss Pretoria in black, I think then I'd change the mirror caps. Personally, I think gloss would be too shiny and the designers got it right. Which is entirely different to my view prior to getting the car.

Have selected a new model before there has been any on the forecourts before but this is the first time that not seen what selected since! Not on a forecourt or on the road. Maybe they are more dense in other areas but not in my surround.

Surely yours must be getting increased look overs? especially from those who know their cars?

The TCR that did actually see close up were in Black and White but neither really gave me a feel for the caps being right on the Pure Grey.

The white was on Pretoria and I would 100% change them on that to the Gloss to match the wheel though think the gentleman with the Oryx White TCR got it right by colour matching the caps

The DBP was on Reifnitz so any chance of getting a feeling for the caps was quite lost. Black is not a great colour for the TCR.

You stated quite clearly prior that the fitted caps would go for the gloss caps, so if thats your thinking now from actual ownership then I would be wise to listen and just hold fire, receive and live with for a while and see if thinking aligns to yours or if its still a niggle to address - But thanks for thoughts as likely would have had replacements sitting here in a box ready to go.

Done nearly 1500 miles in the R in last month as toured some beauty areas which have paid much more attention to the drive knowing the TCR is close and should be able to give a pretty good R vs TCR comparison once put the obligatory 1000 miles on the TCR
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 12 August 2019, 10:00
The only thing I am going to change on the TCR is the Caps, from that rubbish Matte finish to the Gloss, and might get a clear boot/bumper protector as my R has got a few minor scrapes there.

Hold off on changing the caps till you see the car, it's not as bad as I thought it would be. There are sufficient matt plastics on the bumpers and if you take the reifnitz wheels, they are a matt finish which ties them in. If you've gone for gloss Pretoria in black, I think then I'd change the mirror caps. Personally, I think gloss would be too shiny and the designers got it right. Which is entirely different to my view prior to getting the car.

Done nearly 1500 miles in the R in last month as toured some beauty areas which have paid much more attention to the drive knowing the TCR is close and should be able to give a pretty good R vs TCR comparison once put the obligatory 1000 miles on the TCR

As a current R owner who really considered the TCR this will be interesting to read. Took my R done to Norfolk from Manchester and the car has been faultless. It has such a breadth of talent as every Mk7 has.  Hope you love the car. How long now?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 12 August 2019, 11:12
The only thing I am going to change on the TCR is the Caps, from that rubbish Matte finish to the Gloss, and might get a clear boot/bumper protector as my R has got a few minor scrapes there.

Hold off on changing the caps till you see the car, it's not as bad as I thought it would be. There are sufficient matt plastics on the bumpers and if you take the reifnitz wheels, they are a matt finish which ties them in. If you've gone for gloss Pretoria in black, I think then I'd change the mirror caps. Personally, I think gloss would be too shiny and the designers got it right. Which is entirely different to my view prior to getting the car.

Done nearly 1500 miles in the R in last month as toured some beauty areas which have paid much more attention to the drive knowing the TCR is close and should be able to give a pretty good R vs TCR comparison once put the obligatory 1000 miles on the TCR

As a current R owner who really considered the TCR this will be interesting to read. Took my R done to Norfolk from Manchester and the car has been faultless. It has such a breadth of talent as every Mk7 has.  Hope you love the car. How long now?

Had a real moment of self doubt once made the order of "have I done the right thing?!"

The R is so capable, so good to drive as a daily with genuine performance that I had already dismissed the latest on the block of the A35 AMG and was pretty much pressing the button on an Indium Grey R with Black Pretoria - Having done the Jurassic Coast, the Cotswolds and into Snowdonia in last month on a variety of roads the R has excelled itself, effortless and comfort when at set speed and crunching the miles and with some added smiles as moved around some of the better driving roads

Going to exclude Bournemouth and Poole from this as there is a camera and 20 MPH zone on every bend :)

I have a certain demographic of car can look at with ££ can spend and out of all the cars driven in that sphere the R has proven to be far and away the best - some of the compromises made over the years for comfort vs performance have not had to be made

My only knock on the R is that it can feel too capable, little heavy and the TCR I hope gives me R pace that so used to now with some more agility that used to on a more diluted level with wife Audi 180 BHP A1 - which is quite a fun drive for a town car.

Get the TCR in October, so not long now, probably just having parts screwed to the chassis as we speak - Cannot make any real worthwhile comparison till the 1000 miles is done and can drive in same manner as the R but as much as there is some narrative out there to R vs TCR there is none that seen on direct swap so I am as interested as anyone else to see how feel and if made the right decision.

My thoughts now is that I will come back and just say its a different flavour of great. 

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 12 August 2019, 12:12
I see what folk are saying here....

But it strikes me as a bit weird...

The GTI was not as powerful and even at its power levels struggled for grip with FWD.

I still say it, the extra weight from the 4WD of the R over the rear makes it feel more stable over typical british roads too.

So those are the gripes and the R fixes both of those problems.... and now some folk are wishing for it to be less good?

If you had a whatever supercar, would you really be saying "yeah its ok but less power and less grip would be better"?? I know I'd be saying "more bootspace and not as close to the ground please", but comparing an R to a GTI isn't that.

Could what you seek be even better if you had a 2.0 TSI R line? Less, power, less grip.... less everything really?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 12 August 2019, 13:07
I see what folk are saying here....

But it strikes me as a bit weird...

The GTI was not as powerful and even at its power levels struggled for grip with FWD.

I still say it, the extra weight from the 4WD of the R over the rear makes it feel more stable over typical british roads too.

So those are the gripes and the R fixes both of those problems.... and now some folk are wishing for it to be less good?

If you had a whatever supercar, would you really be saying "yeah its ok but less power and less grip would be better"?? I know I'd be saying "more bootspace and not as close to the ground please", but comparing an R to a GTI isn't that.

Could what you seek be even better if you had a 2.0 TSI R line? Less, power, less grip.... less everything really?

And that is the reason why I have second guessed myself a load of times since.

Drove the GTD for 3 years (did a lot more mileage then) before selecting the R and stated many times its all the car you will ever need, decent performance and excellent economy and comfort when started to crunch the miles, but the R is one you want.

My only gripe on the GTD was the getaway traction which was painful till 13,000 miles until put decent tyres on it and from that point on it was just an initial scrabble when floored it, but even though light flickered you were still moving and got away.

Use my wife's A1 as a lite comparison to what mean by different experience as 185 BHP is decent amount of power in such a small car and it does feel lighter and more engaging, and the slight scrabble you get is part of it, not a detraction - standing there, and tramping, now thats rubbish, but its not a complaint seen on any TCR review read or seen

There was never once a feeling of any loss of on the move stability no matter the condition in the GTD and that understanding played a part in selecting the TCR, yes the AWD gives you total assurance, but the MK 7 (GTD +GTI) is pretty assured also,

Colleagues have GTI also, done many a mile in one, and never once did it feel compromised at pace in dry or wet and you not really feel the difference at all, as the R is mainly FWD until until need is there for some back wheel assistance.

My history prior to the GTD was back to back Audi A3 Quattro > GTD > R so well versed in benefits and the feeling of driving AWD.

So it was not a decision took lightly, pondered it loads, and had real doubts when ordered but from what seen of the TCR on all the reviews and some in the very wet it is coming across as being quite capable in all areas with that VAQ differential dragging the car around bends supremely well. everyone stating its a great drivers car.

Been on this forum a while now and not many GTI owners feel anything but love for their ride and sure if that was not the case, this is the place you would hear the moans.

Another tug for me was the heritage, always wanted a GTI since a kid and there was definitely the thinking that if passed on this version then it will never happen.

So, I too understand what you are saying as its been in my own head and the proof will only be in the driving and living with and we shall see how feel about the switching then in terms of drive - Of course there is some other adds for me as get the MK 7.5 lifts as well as the TCR trimmings and now it seems the Akrapovich - It will be a nice place to sit and live with for 3 years, now quite excited to be getting it and have something different.

So for me its not a competition with the R, I am its biggest fan, just been eulogising about an amazing drive around the some of the best parts of this country, I am just open to seeing what experience there is for me in the TCR

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sjw on 12 August 2019, 14:35
I see what folk are saying here....

But it strikes me as a bit weird...

The GTI was not as powerful and even at its power levels struggled for grip with FWD.

I still say it, the extra weight from the 4WD of the R over the rear makes it feel more stable over typical british roads too.

So those are the gripes and the R fixes both of those problems.... and now some folk are wishing for it to be less good?

If you had a whatever supercar, would you really be saying "yeah its ok but less power and less grip would be better"?? I know I'd be saying "more bootspace and not as close to the ground please", but comparing an R to a GTI isn't that.

Could what you seek be even better if you had a 2.0 TSI R line? Less, power, less grip.... less everything really?

And that is the reason why I have second guessed myself a load of times since.

Drove the GTD for 3 years (did a lot more mileage then) before selecting the R and stated many times its all the car you will ever need, decent performance and excellent economy and comfort when started to crunch the miles, but the R is one you want.

My only gripe on the GTD was the getaway traction which was painful till 13,000 miles until put decent tyres on it and from that point on it was just an initial scrabble when floored it, but even though light flickered you were still moving and got away.

Use my wife's A1 as a lite comparison to what mean by different experience as 185 BHP is decent amount of power in such a small car and it does feel lighter and more engaging, and the slight scrabble you get is part of it, not a detraction - standing there, and tramping, now thats rubbish, but its not a complaint seen on any TCR review read or seen

There was never once a feeling of any loss of on the move stability no matter the condition in the GTD and that understanding played a part in selecting the TCR, yes the AWD gives you total assurance, but the MK 7 (GTD +GTI) is pretty assured also,

Colleagues have GTI also, done many a mile in one, and never once did it feel compromised at pace in dry or wet and you not really feel the difference at all, as the R is mainly FWD until until need is there for some back wheel assistance.

My history prior to the GTD was back to back Audi A3 Quattro > GTD > R so well versed in benefits and the feeling of driving AWD.

So it was not a decision took lightly, pondered it loads, and had real doubts when ordered but from what seen of the TCR on all the reviews and some in the very wet it is coming across as being quite capable in all areas with that VAQ differential dragging the car around bends supremely well. everyone stating its a great drivers car.

Been on this forum a while now and not many GTI owners feel anything but love for their ride and sure if that was not the case, this is the place you would hear the moans.

Another tug for me was the heritage, always wanted a GTI since a kid and there was definitely the thinking that if passed on this version then it will never happen.

So, I too understand what you are saying as its been in my own head and the proof will only be in the driving and living with and we shall see how feel about the switching then in terms of drive - Of course there is some other adds for me as get the MK 7.5 lifts as well as the TCR trimmings and now it seems the Akrapovich - It will be a nice place to sit and live with for 3 years, now quite excited to be getting it and have something different.

So for me its not a competition with the R, I am its biggest fan, just been eulogising about an amazing drive around the some of the best parts of this country, I am just open to seeing what experience there is for me in the TCR

I think you'll love it.

As a 7.5 GTI owner, yes there are times where AWD would be useful, but as you say, that slight scrabbling adds to the character of the car. Never driven an R, but I had the chance to test drive one when I tested the GTI, and didn't feel the need. Fell in love with the GTI immediately.

Again, never driven an R, but I think if I did I'd find it a bit lacking in the charm that the GTI has, that's what I always imagine. There's a little bit of "the little car that could", the underdog, with the GTI, I feel. It's in a class of it's own, and I bet the TCR is brilliant. Bit jealous of the extra power the TCR has, which is why I'm considering a remap!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 12 August 2019, 14:56
As I’ve said before, the Mk7 in any performance form is a great car (obviously I’m going to exclude the gtd then as it’s not a performance golf 😉).

Yes the Gti’s I’ve owned will scrabble a lot more than an R would as you’d expect, but that diff does a great job. It’s just a different experience in the R. The only car I’d happily swap my R for is a gti. That says it all.
There’s a perception that the R lacks character. I really don’t agree with that. It’s just so good at everything like all fast Golfs. It’s surprising how different it is to a gti if you get a chance to drive one. I honestly think that if the R was rebranded as a gti plus type model some people would be falling all over it, saying it’s phenomenal.

If you have to choose between any performance golf you’ve got a tough job ahead of you, just as I did. First world problems eh?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 12 August 2019, 15:06
When purchasing my GTI PP in 2016 I had a 30 minute test drive in an R before doing the same in the GTI and my take away was that the R felt more planted and "grown up" if that makes sense, but wasn't as fun as the GTI which seemed somehow more eager despite the power deficit.

Some of that may be the different feel to the interior as the GTI is more colourful and to me special which is a theme that's certainly been carried through to the TCR.  And of course there's that red GTI badge on the boot and grill which sealed the deal  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 12 August 2019, 15:47
Looks like the configurator on the DE site is showing the new exhaust now.

Hoping that they will silently update the key fob as per SEAT so it only transmits signals on movement.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 12 August 2019, 16:49
Looks like the configurator on the DE site is showing the new exhaust now.

Hoping that they will silently update the key fob as per SEAT so it only transmits signals on movement.

Given the latest interest in this and mention in articles of this upcoming technology of motion sensor keys then me to!

Not see any TCR with the R "Performance" -Exhaust; Rear silencer in titanium (from the German site) but looks pretty good here on the concept at about 1 min 10 secs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRcPYgCb6Jw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRcPYgCb6Jw)

If not, at least be able to do the manual sequence that disables the KESSY on the MK 7.5 that cannot do now on my MK 7 - The UK site will update the day before it changes for the MK 8 release likely, but good to see its actually out there somewhere as official
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Crockers on 12 August 2019, 22:11
If you don't know what a chav is how do you know they aren't. Thank god you're not a lawyer.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 August 2019, 08:01
If you don't know what a chav is how do you know they aren't. Thank god you're not a lawyer.
I know exactly what a Chav is! Have you been to that dealer in Northallerton?? Chav dealer was the question not what's a Chav. It's still a ridiculous and stupid comment regardless.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 13 August 2019, 09:03
Got the notification this morning my car is now built and has left the factory  :whistle:

I guess may be available around mid September then...
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 13 August 2019, 09:29
I see what folk are saying here....

But it strikes me as a bit weird...

The GTI was not as powerful and even at its power levels struggled for grip with FWD.

I still say it, the extra weight from the 4WD of the R over the rear makes it feel more stable over typical british roads too.

So those are the gripes and the R fixes both of those problems.... and now some folk are wishing for it to be less good?

If you had a whatever supercar, would you really be saying "yeah its ok but less power and less grip would be better"?? I know I'd be saying "more bootspace and not as close to the ground please", but comparing an R to a GTI isn't that.

Could what you seek be even better if you had a 2.0 TSI R line? Less, power, less grip.... less everything really?

This is an interesting question- whether a car has to be faster and “better “ to be more enjoyable. Richard Meaden wrote a good piece on this theme in the June Evo- which I have just reread after seeing your post.
Interestingly many of these Evo journalists who spend their lives driving supercars own old hot hatches (Renaults and Peugeots).
i’ve never been bothered by how fast a car is in relation to another- or even how fast it actually is ( though often faster does mean more fun). What matters is how enjoyable it is to drive and own- to me that means lighter and more agile. I really don’t need any more power for the kind of roads I drive.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 13 August 2019, 14:13
i’ve never been bothered by how fast a car is in relation to another- or even how fast it actually is ( though often faster does mean more fun). What matters is how enjoyable it is to drive and own- to me that means lighter and more agile. I really don’t need any more power for the kind of roads I drive.

So a Type R or a Abarth 595 or a Megane sorta racey track thing would be better than a sensible Golf?

Why do you have a Golf then?

I've had some older cars (not by choice) and have to say even the ones which were kings back in their day are not fun to drive at all. They seem pretty slow, handle badly and well.... are just old knackers.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 13 August 2019, 15:15
i’ve never been bothered by how fast a car is in relation to another- or even how fast it actually is ( though often faster does mean more fun). What matters is how enjoyable it is to drive and own- to me that means lighter and more agile. I really don’t need any more power for the kind of roads I drive.

So a Type R or a Abarth 595 or a Megane sorta racey track thing would be better than a sensible Golf?

Why do you have a Golf then?

I've had some older cars (not by choice) and have to say even the ones which were kings back in their day are not fun to drive at all. They seem pretty slow, handle badly and well.... are just old knackers.

Driving enjoyment is not my only criteria for choosing a car. The golf is sensible but it’s also a brilliant drive.
My point is that it doesn’t matter to me how capable a car is, it’s the feeling I get from driving it that’s important- it can be more satisfying driving a less competent car to it’s limits.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 13 August 2019, 16:20
Totally agree, some cars give more a sense of theatre or occasion than others which may well be more competent.

Maybe you like ringing a type R round to 8k revs and the drama and sound that brings (I did).  Each to their own.

My m135i is undoubtably the fasted car I have owned, is it the most fun?  Not at all.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 13 August 2019, 17:03
Totally agree, some cars give more a sense of theatre or occasion than others which may well be more competent.

Maybe you like ringing a type R round to 8k revs and the drama and sound that brings (I did).  Each to their own.

My m135i is undoubtably the fasted car I have owned, is it the most fun?  Not at all.

The feeling you get is the everything really and everyone has their own subjective parameters that give them 'that feeling' and hence the debate - There is no debate technically and factually but feeling has its own subjective sliding scale  :smiley:

When moved from the Audi S Line Quattro to the GTD there was never really that feeling of being in something special, the feeling was of great all around competence but I was still looking out of the windows at other cars and mainly the R

The R immediately gave me that special feeling and not many cars in my price bracket that looked over to with any wishing, and the thinking is that the TCR will match that feeling, for slightly different reasons, but no less a feeling.

My personal favourite car that owned briefly was a RS2000 which may sound great now, but it was not in best condition, and not that great to drive due to that, but it was a RS2000 and as a young lad thats actually all cared about 

The very first thing thats going to be nice to say to anyone who slightly cares is that driving a GTI as them words have been a long time coming and to see their instant recognition opposed to the slightly blank expression on pronouncing that drive an R will be a nice change also  :grin:

Wife is most excited about the climate screen and said she is already abandoning her A1 on the colder days for my heated seats and climate screen  :grin:

But nice little discussion, enjoyed everyone thoughts on what makes them have a passion for cars.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 14 August 2019, 16:08

Surely yours must be getting increased look overs? especially from those who know their cars?

The TCR that did actually see close up were in Black and White but neither really gave me a feel for the caps being right on the Pure Grey.

The white was on Pretoria and I would 100% change them on that to the Gloss to match the wheel though think the gentleman with the Oryx White TCR got it right by colour matching the caps

The DBP was on Reifnitz so any chance of getting a feeling for the caps was quite lost. Black is not a great colour for the TCR.

You stated quite clearly prior that the fitted caps would go for the gloss caps, so if thats your thinking now from actual ownership then I would be wise to listen and just hold fire, receive and live with for a while and see if thinking aligns to yours or if its still a niggle to address - But thanks for thoughts as likely would have had replacements sitting here in a box ready to go.

Done nearly 1500 miles in the R in last month as toured some beauty areas which have paid much more attention to the drive knowing the TCR is close and should be able to give a pretty good R vs TCR comparison once put the obligatory 1000 miles on the TCR

The TCR has had a fair amount of attention but never with me driving it. I either don't notice or look unapproachable!

Take my advice and get it and then decide, I was as resolute as you were and then got it and didn't mind it as much as I thought. I think you need to see it against the Pure Grey paintwork, looking at it in isolation on any other coloured car will not give the same effect.

Now that the car has settled in, I think that it's far too quiet for my taste. It's the same problem with the new GT4, it sounds muted by comparison and it's due to WLTP. I nearly typed GDPR! Too many 4 letter acronyms controlling our lives. I am interested to see how the performance exhaust works to address this.

I have not driven the car that much in the last six weeks but it remains very capable and comfortable. If I had my way, I would have put a manual gearbox in it, I'm not overly enthused about the DSG when I have driven it in anger but it's the usual complaint we all have for it hunting for higher gears and how manual mode works. I think power is well judged to the chassis, the 7.5 Performance feels slow compared to TCR and CSS. I had a loaner the other day for a couple of hours as a firmware update was done to the CSS.

When is yours due?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 14 August 2019, 19:02

Surely yours must be getting increased look overs? especially from those who know their cars?

The TCR that did actually see close up were in Black and White but neither really gave me a feel for the caps being right on the Pure Grey.

The white was on Pretoria and I would 100% change them on that to the Gloss to match the wheel though think the gentleman with the Oryx White TCR got it right by colour matching the caps

The DBP was on Reifnitz so any chance of getting a feeling for the caps was quite lost. Black is not a great colour for the TCR.

You stated quite clearly prior that the fitted caps would go for the gloss caps, so if thats your thinking now from actual ownership then I would be wise to listen and just hold fire, receive and live with for a while and see if thinking aligns to yours or if its still a niggle to address - But thanks for thoughts as likely would have had replacements sitting here in a box ready to go.

Done nearly 1500 miles in the R in last month as toured some beauty areas which have paid much more attention to the drive knowing the TCR is close and should be able to give a pretty good R vs TCR comparison once put the obligatory 1000 miles on the TCR

The TCR has had a fair amount of attention but never with me driving it. I either don't notice or look unapproachable!

Take my advice and get it and then decide, I was as resolute as you were and then got it and didn't mind it as much as I thought. I think you need to see it against the Pure Grey paintwork, looking at it in isolation on any other coloured car will not give the same effect.

Now that the car has settled in, I think that it's far too quiet for my taste. It's the same problem with the new GT4, it sounds muted by comparison and it's due to WLTP. I nearly typed GDPR! Too many 4 letter acronyms controlling our lives. I am interested to see how the performance exhaust works to address this.

I have not driven the car that much in the last six weeks but it remains very capable and comfortable. If I had my way, I would have put a manual gearbox in it, I'm not overly enthused about the DSG when I have driven it in anger but it's the usual complaint we all have for it hunting for higher gears and how manual mode works. I think power is well judged to the chassis, the 7.5 Performance feels slow compared to TCR and CSS. I had a loaner the other day for a couple of hours as a firmware update was done to the CSS.

When is yours due?

Work in IT and thankfully GDPR is not the all consuming pain in the .... it was, but does occasionally darken my day still :)

Based on your comment had a closer look at some of the better HD images of the Caps and they do seem to match the Reifnitz quite closely so definitely waiting to see how feel about them after living with car for a while.

Driving a MK 7 its pre-WLTP and pre-7 speed DSG, and though very used to the MK 7 DSG having been 6 years in one nearly, not sure how much an affect the increased gearing makes - As its my daily capable and comfortable are a need, which is why stuck with the Golf, and sometimes have to mix in with the commute traffic I am quite appreciative of the DSG and doubt that changes, though when I am 'driving' I always flick the lever over and make my paddle changes as gears have never been quite right in auto, the RACE setting in the R is too long in gear for me and always make the change up earlier than gearbox would (likely as I am not on the track and there is other things on road dictating affairs)

Hardly call my R raucous in noise even pre-WLTP, but it has developed over the miles a nice deep sound that have come to appreciate - think the TCR has no soundaktor which would be nice, though presently have mine set to ECO and so basically off.

Though there is obvious differences its going to be interesting to compare to the R and even though not really clamored for the Akrapovich am interested just how it will sound - Still think its an option never select but never heard one up close so maybe I will be eating my words.

Just starting to look at receiving the TCR, MOT on present just booked for end of September and then it can be anytime from early to mid October to receive.



Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 15 August 2019, 10:16
VW UK Website have finally caught up with their changes and the price list updated and the TCR is now the most expensive Golf (£2350 increase) and no more will be sold  :grin: due to AWD of the R and £1500 saved making the R the better choice over an exhaust (for me anyway)

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316?page=trim (https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316?page=trim)

No mention if the KESSY fobs have the new motion technology (imagine that saved for the MK 8 as another selling point, which is of course wrong but sales always wins)

The only other difference spotted is that the LED headlights now incorporate smoked lenses to match the rear LED lights (this maybe how the TCR came anyway, just its first I noticed)

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary (https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary)

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 15 August 2019, 11:11


Now that the car has settled in, I think that it's far too quiet for my taste. It's the same problem with the new GT4, it sounds muted by comparison and it's due to WLTP. I nearly typed GDPR! Too many 4 letter acronyms controlling our lives. I am interested to see how the performance exhaust works to address this.



VagSport res delete might solve this?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clarky92 on 15 August 2019, 14:59


Now that the car has settled in, I think that it's far too quiet for my taste. It's the same problem with the new GT4, it sounds muted by comparison and it's due to WLTP. I nearly typed GDPR! Too many 4 letter acronyms controlling our lives. I am interested to see how the performance exhaust works to address this.



VagSport res delete might solve this?

Yup, only way your gonna get more noise without whole new exhaust is with a res delete. The Golf R has the GPF aswell, but no res from factory. After a few miles bedding in they are 'DSG farting' and nice and loud. Its cheap and wont invalid warranty on anything major, just the exhaust system.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 15 August 2019, 16:08


Now that the car has settled in, I think that it's far too quiet for my taste. It's the same problem with the new GT4, it sounds muted by comparison and it's due to WLTP. I nearly typed GDPR! Too many 4 letter acronyms controlling our lives. I am interested to see how the performance exhaust works to address this.



VagSport res delete might solve this?

Yup, only way your gonna get more noise without whole new exhaust is with a res delete. The Golf R has the GPF aswell, but no res from factory. After a few miles bedding in they are 'DSG farting' and nice and loud. Its cheap and wont invalid warranty on anything major, just the exhaust system.

Yeah, YT videos showing the TCR doing acceleration runs indicate there is some upshift noise which the 245 P definitely doesn't have at all. Res delete has added some nice extra noise though  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: graham9883 on 15 August 2019, 16:39
I have tried a few things to get better sound on the tcr, 1st of I had a res delete but there was only a little bit extra noise and not too much different from standard
I then added a back box delete aswell but that was too loud
I tried to add a silencer into the centre to make it a little bit quieter but it seemed to make it go back to pretty much standard noise.
so I have now put it all back to standard and kept the back box delete , I will keep this until remus or scorpion make something,  I have also emailed vw asking if can get the new r titanium system added but not sure it will be worth the money.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 15 August 2019, 16:53
VW UK Website have finally caught up with their changes and the price list updated and the TCR is now the most expensive Golf (£2350 increase) and no more will be sold  :grin: due to AWD of the R and £1500 saved making the R the better choice over an exhaust (for me anyway)

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316?page=trim (https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316?page=trim)

No mention if the KESSY fobs have the new motion technology (imagine that saved for the MK 8 as another selling point, which is of course wrong but sales always wins)

The only other difference spotted is that the LED headlights now incorporate smoked lenses to match the rear LED lights (this maybe how the TCR came anyway, just its first I noticed)

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary (https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary)

I meant to add in this thread a few days ago but didn’t get chance, I spoke recently to our own evo1986 and he told me that ordering for MY20 cars was going live on 15th August. So VW UK are actually dead on track with the online prices there.

Lee (a site sponsor) is well worth a shout for those looking at a TCR deal or any other VW, he has great knowledge and excellent contacts and he’s helped me find deals on cars in the past avoiding waiting lists and price rises. He’s a solid no nonsense guy and has the full backing of a huge dealer network.
With potentially three months plus wait time on a factory order giving evo1986 a shout can ‘make things happen’ unlike many brokers, or even if you end up with a wait his prices will be competitive.




First mention I’ve seen of tinted headlamps, reminds me of the mk6 R!
Having seen a few Polo GTIs in the flesh some of those have appeared to have tinted headlamp lenses, maybe they actually do then(?)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 15 August 2019, 17:16
VW UK Website have finally caught up with their changes and the price list updated and the TCR is now the most expensive Golf (£2350 increase) and no more will be sold  :grin: due to AWD of the R and £1500 saved making the R the better choice over an exhaust (for me anyway)

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316?page=trim (https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316?page=trim)

No mention if the KESSY fobs have the new motion technology (imagine that saved for the MK 8 as another selling point, which is of course wrong but sales always wins)

The only other difference spotted is that the LED headlights now incorporate smoked lenses to match the rear LED lights (this maybe how the TCR came anyway, just its first I noticed)

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary (https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary)

I meant to add in this thread a few days ago but didn’t get chance, I spoke recently to our own evo1986 and he told me that ordering for MY20 cars was going live on 15th August. So VW UK are actually dead on track with the online prices there.

Lee (a site sponsor) is well worth a shout for those looking at a TCR deal or any other VW, he has great knowledge and excellent contacts and he’s helped me find deals on cars in the past avoiding waiting lists and price rises. He’s a solid no nonsense guy and has the full backing of a huge dealer network.
With potentially three months plus wait time on a factory order giving evo1986 a shout can ‘make things happen’ unlike many brokers, or even if you end up with a wait his prices will be competitive.




First mention I’ve seen of tinted headlamps, reminds me of the mk6 R!
Having seen a few Polo GTIs in the flesh some of those have appeared to have tinted headlamp lenses, maybe they actually do then(?)

The dates also correlate with the build date I was given of week 33 (Aug. 12,> Aug. 18, 2019) and I take back what said about VW UK being slow out of the blocks, and think it was because we all knew so early it skewed the expectation

Maybe the lamps are tinted anyway and i just did not notice it, so maybe AGB can confirm, but its another nice complement to the pure grey and matches the tinted rear LED.

Saw a stunningly kept 6 R at weekend, it definitely stole the shine off mine was parked close to it as it stood out in showroom condition.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 16 August 2019, 12:51
A few thoughts around the TCR experience after 1400 miles of mixed driving, and with a slightly different perspective to the excellent write ups from AGB as it’s my daily.

The seven speed DSG is a revelation in comparison to the six speed in my PP.  S mode engaged on the stick especially so as it no longer holds the revs to silly numbers regardless of throttle position and is now far more useful in day to day driving – sharpens everything up but when you maintain the throttle position it will change up as far as seventh.  Whether that’s the later DSG or the mapping for the TCR I know not but it does make such a difference to the driving experience.  Normal mode is fine for the commute and although it will try to get up the gears as quickly as it can there’s so much pull from low revs it really doesn’t mar the experience.

Suspension is firmer than the PP in normal mode, but pleasantly so and never jarring or uncomfortable even over the cart tracks that pass for roads in our locale.  Daft as it sounds, it seems to handle the craters better than the PP even though that was on 18”’s and also had DCC.  Once on the dual carriageway and cruising normal is excellent and comfort if anything introduces a little too much compliance and bounce.  I’ve only tried settings in sport for 20 miles or so (that Eleveden bypass again, and the next few miles of roundabouts and sweeping dual) and it makes the car properly responsive and nailed down – more suited to track use I imagine but it corners on rails and the VAQ seems even more effective with the TCR set up.

It’s a quick car, very quick indeed when given all the beans, and puts the power down incredibly well.  It is possible to induce some slight tramping if leaving the lights with a lead foot approach but otherwise the traction is superb, the P Zeros not even squeaking under hard acceleration off the line and once on the move the power just keeps on coming and to far higher revs than the PP.  There is a pleasing burble from the exhaust, and a small crack on full throttle changing up although not as obvious as the PP, plus some subdued crackles and pops on overrun from high revs, but as others have said the TCR is far too quiet I’m beginning to wonder if mine has already blown a baffle or three somewhere as it does sound far more sporty than the PP did even after 30k miles.

Overall I’m enjoying it more every day, and it is the consummate all-rounder – everything I need and nothing I don’t.  Those of you waiting on delivery will not be disappointed.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 16 August 2019, 14:18
Finally saw my first tcr today. The wait will be worth it for everyone I’m sure. Pure grey looked really nice, just not sure I’d like to clean it! That diffuser is huge and I’d be worried about it getting scratched but it looks awesome. Overall the car looked really mean with the 19s filling the arches nicely. It didn’t sound great on start up or as it drove away but the car had very few miles on it.

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Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 16 August 2019, 14:22
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Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 16 August 2019, 15:07
Finally saw my first tcr today. The wait will be worth it for everyone I’m sure. Pure grey looked really nice, just not sure I’d like to clean it! That diffuser is huge and I’d be worried about it getting scratched but it looks awesome. Overall the car looked really mean with the 19s filling the arches nicely. It didn’t sound great on start up or as it drove away but the car had very few miles on it.

(https://i.postimg.cc/28WxyBRq/C8-AFEAE9-EB01-45-ED-AFD6-24-DDFC632924.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rK84Yspc)

My R was pretty mute on receiving and not sure technically why it happens but the note definitely improved to become deeper and with some nice overruns - The Akrapovich is not something ever thought to, so never really paid much attention to when they were added as options so I have no preconception of what will think and will just give an honest appraisal to what see/hear.

I am not overly precious about my cars I gave up a long time ago from worrying about every little nick and abrasion that you see when up close and inspecting and as long as the car is in good clean condition and with nothing that a good cut/polish/wax cannot resolve readily live with in between

My R has a few mild scratches on the diffuser and also the tailgate but again, just a decent cut and polish would remove much if not all of them.

Intend to clay, polish and wax (collonite) on receiving and aside from a jet wash when roads really filthy doubt it will get a proper clean, polish and wax again till spring.

Still personally not seen a pure grey TCR, and seen none of any colour on the road at all! I really thought I would have by now

But proof that they still out there and more see the grey more love it :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 16 August 2019, 15:12
Hertsman, you will love it. The colour didn’t look dull even with the weather being rubbish today. I’d leave the mirror caps as they are, the worked well with the wheels in my opinion.

One thing is I walked away wondering whether I could drive it everyday as for a Vw it’s a bit boy racer. Then I thought yes I could! 😂😂
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 16 August 2019, 15:20
Hertsman, you will love it. The colour didn’t look dull even with the weather being rubbish today. I’d leave the mirror caps as they are, the worked well with the wheels in my opinion.

One thing is I walked away wondering whether I could drive it everyday as for a Vw it’s a bit boy racer. Then I thought yes I could! 😂😂

I definitely do understated, the R fits what I personally look for perfectly, a subtle intent visually with some broader dimensions and wider this and bigger that, but with full capability so the TCR is a bit OTT for me really (you do read some journo say its not enough still) So I am a little glad getting in October as can hide it a little in its winter filth coat as get used to it  :grin:

The R lustre has never worn off for me, just been out and returned and another enjoyable, feeling good, journey testing out my new front tyres in the wet -
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 17 August 2019, 05:27
VagSport res delete might solve this?

Been thinking about this but I suspect I won't be allowed to by my wife, particularly if it ends up droning. It's definitely bedded in and sounds better than when the car was new.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 17 August 2019, 05:53
A few thoughts around the TCR experience after 1400 miles of mixed driving, and with a slightly different perspective to the excellent write ups from AGB as it’s my daily.

The seven speed DSG is a revelation in comparison to the six speed in my PP.  S mode engaged on the stick especially so as it no longer holds the revs to silly numbers regardless of throttle position and is now far more useful in day to day driving – sharpens everything up but when you maintain the throttle position it will change up as far as seventh.  Whether that’s the later DSG or the mapping for the TCR I know not but it does make such a difference to the driving experience.  Normal mode is fine for the commute and although it will try to get up the gears as quickly as it can there’s so much pull from low revs it really doesn’t mar the experience.

Suspension is firmer than the PP in normal mode, but pleasantly so and never jarring or uncomfortable even over the cart tracks that pass for roads in our locale.  Daft as it sounds, it seems to handle the craters better than the PP even though that was on 18”’s and also had DCC.  Once on the dual carriageway and cruising normal is excellent and comfort if anything introduces a little too much compliance and bounce.  I’ve only tried settings in sport for 20 miles or so (that Eleveden bypass again, and the next few miles of roundabouts and sweeping dual) and it makes the car properly responsive and nailed down – more suited to track use I imagine but it corners on rails and the VAQ seems even more effective with the TCR set up.

It’s a quick car, very quick indeed when given all the beans, and puts the power down incredibly well.  It is possible to induce some slight tramping if leaving the lights with a lead foot approach but otherwise the traction is superb, the P Zeros not even squeaking under hard acceleration off the line and once on the move the power just keeps on coming and to far higher revs than the PP.  There is a pleasing burble from the exhaust, and a small crack on full throttle changing up although not as obvious as the PP, plus some subdued crackles and pops on overrun from high revs, but as others have said the TCR is far too quiet I’m beginning to wonder if mine has already blown a baffle or three somewhere as it does sound far more sporty than the PP did even after 30k miles.

Overall I’m enjoying it more every day, and it is the consummate all-rounder – everything I need and nothing I don’t.  Those of you waiting on delivery will not be disappointed.

Thanks for the kind comment about my rambling Philip, more importantly, good to hear that you're enjoying the car.

I spent several hours in the TCR yesterday having not driven it in weeks and the weather was awful - I was up and down the A14, M1 and M11. Really awful driving conditions and road surfaces. TCR didn't miss a beat and what struck me was just how effortlessly quick and stable it was. Feels quicker to 60 than it suggests on paper. Struggled for traction on a particularly worn section of tarmac which was glossy and slick but I buried my foot in the interests of science to see how it would deal with the surface and TCS kicked in and modulated my ham fisted stamp on the accelerator very quickly.

The Pirellis seem a good pairing with the TCR on Reifnitz which I assume is what you have? I was initially a bit annoyed that they hadn't supplied on Michelin as my preference but from my other cars which are on CS2s, wear is quicker and more sensitive to poor geometry. In lower temperatures or with lots of surface water, you have to be mindful that you can aquaplane a lot more easily and I had real confidence in the Pirellis yesterday.

Suspension is quite interesting - I think I remarked on this before in that all modes on the TCR are usable. I can only use Comfort on the CSS and maybe it's perceptual as well as the CSS is stripped of a lot of sound deadening so you get more feedback in the cabin. The sounds of loose stone in the wheel arches is still something that makes me deeply uncomfortable! Not sure if you've setup an individual profile but sounds like your roads are like what I have in Suffolk. I've found that if I want a blend of pliancy and performance/feel, turning everything but suspension to race and putting suspension to comfort works a treat. It's the same tactic that the CSS with the 'ring lap time took - they made a big thing about the 'hidden mode' but all they did was just softened the dampers and kept everything else to race. What's interesting is that under those settings and driven sensibly, I can beat Eco mode for economy.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 17 August 2019, 06:19

Maybe the lamps are tinted anyway and i just did not notice it, so maybe AGB can confirm, but its another nice complement to the pure grey and matches the tinted rear LED.


You just had me walking backwards and forwards between the two cars looking for differences. Probably one of the stranger things I've done with a Saturday morning.  :grin:

Mine don't look smoked. You can see the tint in the tail lights but not sure I would want it on the front. Aesthetically, I think having it clear keeps the brightwork consistent on the front end - it ties in better with the chrome badge. Subjective personal opinion on aesthetics.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 17 August 2019, 06:35
Work in IT and thankfully GDPR is not the all consuming pain in the .... it was, but does occasionally darken my day still :)

Based on your comment had a closer look at some of the better HD images of the Caps and they do seem to match the Reifnitz quite closely so definitely waiting to see how feel about them after living with car for a while.

Driving a MK 7 its pre-WLTP and pre-7 speed DSG, and though very used to the MK 7 DSG having been 6 years in one nearly, not sure how much an affect the increased gearing makes - As its my daily capable and comfortable are a need, which is why stuck with the Golf, and sometimes have to mix in with the commute traffic I am quite appreciative of the DSG and doubt that changes, though when I am 'driving' I always flick the lever over and make my paddle changes as gears have never been quite right in auto, the RACE setting in the R is too long in gear for me and always make the change up earlier than gearbox would (likely as I am not on the track and there is other things on road dictating affairs)

Hardly call my R raucous in noise even pre-WLTP, but it has developed over the miles a nice deep sound that have come to appreciate - think the TCR has no soundaktor which would be nice, though presently have mine set to ECO and so basically off.

Though there is obvious differences its going to be interesting to compare to the R and even though not really clamored for the Akrapovich am interested just how it will sound - Still think its an option never select but never heard one up close so maybe I will be eating my words.

Just starting to look at receiving the TCR, MOT on present just booked for end of September and then it can be anytime from early to mid October to receive.

I work in tech too although VC side and thank Zuckerberg daily for his ethical approach to data as I do extremists every time I have to go through airport security! :grin:

I posted up some comments about driving it in day to day from yesterday. Really liveable car as a daily and I think as a budget no object exercise, it would be my choice of anything in the market. I like my CSS but can't deny that the TCR beats it for the dull aspects of the commute when you're in crawling traffic or dealing with variable speed limits.

The one thing I hate about the digital display is the fuel gauge. I do not find it sufficiently clear to read and thought they would have made a better job of that given the blank canvas they have to work with on a display. I can't believe that I'm alone but I've never seen a journalist mention this once. You also lose the usability feature with the arrow indicating the side that the fuel cap is on. Times are a changing as they say.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 17 August 2019, 08:51
And I’ll make it three for three working in technology (GEA).  Guess the odds of that are significantly reduced by it being a GTI forum but still feels a low probability of the combination of car choice with profession.

Share your sentiments around FB, airport security and the location and readability of the fuel / temperature gauges.  I’d prefer it if they could sit in the centre of the speedometer / rev counter.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 17 August 2019, 23:40
A few thoughts around the TCR experience after 1400 miles of mixed driving, and with a slightly different perspective to the excellent write ups from AGB as it’s my daily.

The seven speed DSG is a revelation in comparison to the six speed in my PP.  S mode engaged on the stick especially so as it no longer holds the revs to silly numbers regardless of throttle position and is now far more useful in day to day driving – sharpens everything up but when you maintain the throttle position it will change up as far as seventh.  Whether that’s the later DSG or the mapping for the TCR I know not but it does make such a difference to the driving experience.  Normal mode is fine for the commute and although it will try to get up the gears as quickly as it can there’s so much pull from low revs it really doesn’t mar the experience.

Suspension is firmer than the PP in normal mode, but pleasantly so and never jarring or uncomfortable even over the cart tracks that pass for roads in our locale.  Daft as it sounds, it seems to handle the craters better than the PP even though that was on 18”’s and also had DCC.  Once on the dual carriageway and cruising normal is excellent and comfort if anything introduces a little too much compliance and bounce.  I’ve only tried settings in sport for 20 miles or so (that Eleveden bypass again, and the next few miles of roundabouts and sweeping dual) and it makes the car properly responsive and nailed down – more suited to track use I imagine but it corners on rails and the VAQ seems even more effective with the TCR set up.

It’s a quick car, very quick indeed when given all the beans, and puts the power down incredibly well.  It is possible to induce some slight tramping if leaving the lights with a lead foot approach but otherwise the traction is superb, the P Zeros not even squeaking under hard acceleration off the line and once on the move the power just keeps on coming and to far higher revs than the PP.  There is a pleasing burble from the exhaust, and a small crack on full throttle changing up although not as obvious as the PP, plus some subdued crackles and pops on overrun from high revs, but as others have said the TCR is far too quiet I’m beginning to wonder if mine has already blown a baffle or three somewhere as it does sound far more sporty than the PP did even after 30k miles.

Overall I’m enjoying it more every day, and it is the consummate all-rounder – everything I need and nothing I don’t.  Those of you waiting on delivery will not be disappointed.

Great summary and agree! I’ve got no other mk7 history other than once driving the very disappointing gtd pool car. TCR is great, so good for covering some miles, mixing the easy quiet, comfy cruise and then some quick blast and coming from up gti, Corrado VR6, Mk2 Gti, it’s way more rapid than I’m used to!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 17 August 2019, 23:46
And I’ll make it three for three working in technology (GEA).  Guess the odds of that are significantly reduced by it being a GTI forum but still feels a low probability of the combination of car choice with profession.

Share your sentiments around FB, airport security and the location and readability of the fuel / temperature gauges.  I’d prefer it if they could sit in the centre of the speedometer / rev counter.

I realised when I was in the car today that they still have the icon for the fuel tank with the indicator showing the side where the fuel cap is. I stand corrected. What I find odd is that for all the touch interfaces, haptics and everything else in modern cars with digital dash, nobody thought about providing more freedom in customisation. The new 992 911 interface is terrible - the steering wheel masks off most of the driver screens and you have to duck and dive to read all the controls either side of the rev counter. VW better but still not as good as it could be.

I deleted FB about 7 years ago and try and fly out of City no matter where I go - everyone travelling from LCY seems to have left their house before and knows that taking 5 litres of liquid is going to have you called aside. But you're right, probably low probability on GTI TCR ownership or are all the others in Teslas?  :smug:

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 19 August 2019, 09:07
And I’ll make it three for three working in technology (GEA).  Guess the odds of that are significantly reduced by it being a GTI forum but still feels a low probability of the combination of car choice with profession.

Share your sentiments around FB, airport security and the location and readability of the fuel / temperature gauges.  I’d prefer it if they could sit in the centre of the speedometer / rev counter.

I realised when I was in the car today that they still have the icon for the fuel tank with the indicator showing the side where the fuel cap is. I stand corrected. What I find odd is that for all the touch interfaces, haptics and everything else in modern cars with digital dash, nobody thought about providing more freedom in customisation. The new 992 911 interface is terrible - the steering wheel masks off most of the driver screens and you have to duck and dive to read all the controls either side of the rev counter. VW better but still not as good as it could be.

I deleted FB about 7 years ago and try and fly out of City no matter where I go - everyone travelling from LCY seems to have left their house before and knows that taking 5 litres of liquid is going to have you called aside. But you're right, probably low probability on GTI TCR ownership or are all the others in Teslas?  :smug:

My MD just ditched his RS4 for Tesla 3, awaiting arrival...  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 19 August 2019, 10:59
Ticked off some work tasks this morning and then settled for some late breakfast and a good read through the most recent comments over the weekend and an enjoyable read it was, obviously only heightening my impatience to get into the TCR - My poor R had an Indian Summer moment where I had some renewed appreciation after that period of ownership where you take a little for granted, which peaked with a 800 mile trip around the Jurassic Coast, but thats passed, the TCR needs to hurry up now :)

It was a filthy day when AGB was out in it, as bad as any you get in winter and really good to read how capably the TCR performed as one of the sales for AWD is the wet weather performance.

Share the thoughts on the digital dials, as know work in the IT industry, and work with some very talented developers who have created some really good and useful! UI (we always stress that, pretty without functionality is pointless)

The A35 AMG looked at and played with extensively had far too much flexibility, looks and options in its UI, to the point it felt gimmicky and much of the visuals were for show than actually useful - Only had restricted use of the Golf display but looks like there was much more scope to add some more options and configurations to get a desired UI.

Was a big critic of the original MIB units, thought they were poor and let the car down, but thankfully they have improved markedly now and think they are better than most in segment.

Tyres do really make more difference than think, my front set ran to 26,500 and seemed to still have some life in them, I would have definitely ran them to changeover if not for a puncture, but having been on a new set this weekend really noticed the benefit of fresh tread and newly balanced wheels, steering was far more agile and road noise greatly reduced

Thanks again for taking the time to share experiences, absorbed with great interest and a nice break as try to get myself into the week, :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 19 August 2019, 11:49




The only other difference spotted is that the LED headlights now incorporate smoked lenses to match the rear LED lights (this maybe how the TCR came anyway, just its first I noticed)

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary (https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary)

Quick question - where did you see about tinted headlights and rear lights as they look exactly the same as the normal GTI?  :huh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 19 August 2019, 12:11




The only other difference spotted is that the LED headlights now incorporate smoked lenses to match the rear LED lights (this maybe how the TCR came anyway, just its first I noticed)

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary (https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary)

Quick question - where did you see about tinted headlights and rear lights as they look exactly the same as the normal GTI?  :huh:

Its on the new price list on VW UK as a headline feature, but found it was also on the May price list, so doubt its an actual thing from real experience we get here
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 19 August 2019, 12:55
And I’ll make it three for three working in technology (GEA).  Guess the odds of that are significantly reduced by it being a GTI forum but still feels a low probability of the combination of car choice with profession.

Share your sentiments around FB, airport security and the location and readability of the fuel / temperature gauges.  I’d prefer it if they could sit in the centre of the speedometer / rev counter.

I realised when I was in the car today that they still have the icon for the fuel tank with the indicator showing the side where the fuel cap is. I stand corrected. What I find odd is that for all the touch interfaces, haptics and everything else in modern cars with digital dash, nobody thought about providing more freedom in customisation. The new 992 911 interface is terrible - the steering wheel masks off most of the driver screens and you have to duck and dive to read all the controls either side of the rev counter. VW better but still not as good as it could be.

I deleted FB about 7 years ago and try and fly out of City no matter where I go - everyone travelling from LCY seems to have left their house before and knows that taking 5 litres of liquid is going to have you called aside. But you're right, probably low probability on GTI TCR ownership or are all the others in Teslas?  :smug:

My MD just ditched his RS4 for Tesla 3, awaiting arrival...  :smiley:

Interesting. Everyone I know who bought a Tesla has replaced them after 1-2 years and one went from an RS6 whose fuel consumption was worse than he imagined. He knew it wasn't him when the petrol station staff started to greet him by name.  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 19 August 2019, 13:20




The only other difference spotted is that the LED headlights now incorporate smoked lenses to match the rear LED lights (this maybe how the TCR came anyway, just its first I noticed)

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary (https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary)

Quick question - where did you see about tinted headlights and rear lights as they look exactly the same as the normal GTI?  :huh:

Its on the new price list on VW UK as a headline feature, but found it was also on the May price list, so doubt its an actual thing from real experience we get here

It must be a very subtle tint is all I can say!  :grin:

This is mine vs the TCR I had a look at a few months ago

(https://i.postimg.cc/RZZQhFcv/EAC85-C74-2-A80-4701-AB33-BB0-DE94-FFDCD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4mjhFXL0)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Guzzle on 19 August 2019, 17:34




The only other difference spotted is that the LED headlights now incorporate smoked lenses to match the rear LED lights (this maybe how the TCR came anyway, just its first I noticed)

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary (https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary)

Quick question - where did you see about tinted headlights and rear lights as they look exactly the same as the normal GTI?  :huh:

Its on the new price list on VW UK as a headline feature, but found it was also on the May price list, so doubt its an actual thing from real experience we get here

It must be a very subtle tint is all I can say!  :grin:

This is mine vs the TCR I had a look at a few months ago

(https://i.postimg.cc/RZZQhFcv/EAC85-C74-2-A80-4701-AB33-BB0-DE94-FFDCD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4mjhFXL0)

The rear lights are the same Jim hence why you can't see a difference. It's the headlights that are smoked on the TCR.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 19 August 2019, 18:21
That’ll be why they look the same!  :grin:

Can’t see the headlights look any different either to be honest. Following quite a few on Instagram and they look pretty similar to mine. Hard to tell with filters though.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 20 August 2019, 09:24
Moved to 5b of 7 (in transit: shipping) today.  Shouldn't be too much longer now!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 20 August 2019, 10:02



The rear lights are the same Jim hence why you can't see a difference. It's the headlights that are smoked on the TCR.

Are all TCR's supposed to have them or is this new along with the Akra exhaust? Was having a nosey on AT and here's a TCR vs GTI...  :huh:

(https://i.postimg.cc/nzjNrpqR/7-CEF5002-0-B3-C-42-C1-8-DB1-05-BB2-C4-F9410.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXpgB9S8)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Guzzle on 20 August 2019, 13:07



The rear lights are the same Jim hence why you can't see a difference. It's the headlights that are smoked on the TCR.

Are all TCR's supposed to have them or is this new along with the Akra exhaust? Was having a nosey on AT and here's a TCR vs GTI...  :huh:

(https://i.postimg.cc/nzjNrpqR/7-CEF5002-0-B3-C-42-C1-8-DB1-05-BB2-C4-F9410.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXpgB9S8)

It's in the price list from 01/04/19;-

'LED headlights with dynamic curve lighting and LED daytime running lights incorporating smoked lenses and red stripe.'

There is no mention of the Akrapovic exhaust in the same price list except as an option on the R, so it looks like they're supposed to be standard on all TCR's.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 20 August 2019, 14:03



The rear lights are the same Jim hence why you can't see a difference. It's the headlights that are smoked on the TCR.

Are all TCR's supposed to have them or is this new along with the Akra exhaust? Was having a nosey on AT and here's a TCR vs GTI...  :huh:

(https://i.postimg.cc/nzjNrpqR/7-CEF5002-0-B3-C-42-C1-8-DB1-05-BB2-C4-F9410.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXpgB9S8)

It's in the price list from 01/04/19;-

'LED headlights with dynamic curve lighting and LED daytime running lights incorporating smoked lenses and red stripe.'

There is no mention of the Akrapovic exhaust in the same price list except as an option on the R, so it looks like they're supposed to be standard on all TCR's.

On the August Price list, it now states,

Akrapovič’ titanium sport exhaust system
with round twin tailpipes left and right
‘GTI TCR’ styling pack – uniquely shaped
front and rear bumpers and rear roof spoiler
LED headlights with dynamic curve
lighting and LED daytime running lights
incorporating smoked lenses and red stripe
Matt black door mirrors with integrated
indicators
Unique ‘GTI TCR’ badging
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 20 August 2019, 23:05
I’d hazard a guess that they are exactly the same lights as a standard GTI.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 21 August 2019, 10:56
I’d hazard a guess that they are exactly the same lights as a standard GTI.

Yep, I agree with you.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 August 2019, 14:17
I’d hazard a guess that they are exactly the same lights as a standard GTI.

Yep, I agree with you.

Probably just changed the description to make it sound more appealing. Certainly not like Porsche who offer a black version of the headlight and charge you lots for the privilege!  But at least you can clearly see the difference between the 2 versions.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 22 August 2019, 14:38
I’d hazard a guess that they are exactly the same lights as a standard GTI.

Yep, I agree with you.

Probably just changed the description to make it sound more appealing. Certainly not like Porsche who offer a black version of the headlight and charge you lots for the privilege!  But at least you can clearly see the difference between the 2 versions.

Porsche are p*ss artists when it comes to what they charge for. Charging £380 for DAB is particularly bad or updating my map set for £250 got my back up massively as well.

Spec'd the new 718 Spyder and all headlight choices are black, whether standard, Bi-Xenon or LED but they have managed to create differentiation between the options to rinse you for as much as possible in the process.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 25 August 2019, 20:38
Saw this bar today and thought of all you lucky TCR owners...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bw4jD3qn/IMG-9140.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RW1Y216C)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 26 August 2019, 16:51
Saw this bar today and thought of all you lucky TCR owners...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bw4jD3qn/IMG-9140.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RW1Y216C)

Assume Tottenham Court Road?  :grin: Hadn't thought of that - now thinking I might have to replace the VW badge for the underground roundel.....
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 26 August 2019, 17:00
Assume Tottenham Court Road?  :grin: Hadn't thought of that - now thinking I might have to replace the VW badge for the underground roundel.....

You assume correctly!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 30 August 2019, 09:57
VW UK Website have finally caught up with their changes and the price list updated and the TCR is now the most expensive Golf (£2350 increase) and no more will be sold  :grin: due to AWD of the R and £1500 saved making the R the better choice over an exhaust (for me anyway)

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316?page=trim (https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316?page=trim)

No mention if the KESSY fobs have the new motion technology (imagine that saved for the MK 8 as another selling point, which is of course wrong but sales always wins)

The only other difference spotted is that the LED headlights now incorporate smoked lenses to match the rear LED lights (this maybe how the TCR came anyway, just its first I noticed)

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary (https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary)

Strangely the TCR has increased in price again on the configurator to a whopping £38195 over £2000 more than an R which is about another £600 increase again - have looked to see if anything has been added as standard but cannot see anything so presume the cost is purely Akrapovich - either way they have priced the TCR out of new sales as doubt Akrapovich laden TCR will get the discount of some 19 plates and you simply have to buy an R new or seek out a earlier TCR if really want one - obviously think the TCR is an attractive package to have tempted me away from another R but it’s not the near good enough to justify the difference between the original price and now in my opinion- not sure if anyone else can spot the why there is this £600 increase that’s maybe escaped me?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 30 August 2019, 16:25
VW UK Website have finally caught up with their changes and the price list updated and the TCR is now the most expensive Golf (£2350 increase) and no more will be sold  :grin: due to AWD of the R and £1500 saved making the R the better choice over an exhaust (for me anyway)

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316?page=trim (https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316?page=trim)

No mention if the KESSY fobs have the new motion technology (imagine that saved for the MK 8 as another selling point, which is of course wrong but sales always wins)

The only other difference spotted is that the LED headlights now incorporate smoked lenses to match the rear LED lights (this maybe how the TCR came anyway, just its first I noticed)

https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary (https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/app/configurator/vw-gb/en/golf/30316/39627/gti-tcr/BQ19MZ-MKSUKA1-GPF3PF3-GPNDPND-GPRDPRD-GPXCPXC-GP23P23-GWD1WD1-GWW1WW1-GW8PW8P-GYOZYOZ-MTKV4F2-MCDR7RE-MAUD9WX/2020/0/F14%20J2J2/F56%20%20%20%20%2053/GPIDPID-MSSHVW0-MWSS4GW?page=summary)

Strangely the TCR has increased in price again on the configurator to a whopping £38195 over £2000 more than an R which is about another £600 increase again - have looked to see if anything has been added as standard but cannot see anything so presume the cost is purely Akrapovich - either way they have priced the TCR out of new sales as doubt Akrapovich laden TCR will get the discount of some 19 plates and you simply have to buy an R new or seek out a earlier TCR if really want one - obviously think the TCR is an attractive package to have tempted me away from another R but it’s not the near good enough to justify the difference between the original price and now in my opinion- not sure if anyone else can spot the why there is this £600 increase that’s maybe escaped me?

Absolutely spot on. I never thought the pricing was right from the stat but now it makes no sense to get one new. You’d buy the R or gti at that price. Last time I checked there were 50 on AT though; some of which look good value.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 31 August 2019, 09:11
I’d guess the exchange rate has an influence on price, or at least a hedge against the exchange rate moving more significantly than it has on the part of VW.

Having bought a TCR I’m clearly biased but comparing it solely on price with an R or GTI PP I think is missing the point. It’s a very different car to both of them and for me has a fairly unique appeal that justified my paying more than an equally specified R would have run to. To be fair it was almost impossible to get any significant discount on a three door of any flavour when I ordered so a bit apples and pears perhaps but I’m still beyond happy that I went with the TCR  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 31 August 2019, 10:46
I’d guess the exchange rate has an influence on price, or at least a hedge against the exchange rate moving more significantly than it has on the part of VW.

Having bought a TCR I’m clearly biased but comparing it solely on price with an R or GTI PP I think is missing the point. It’s a very different car to both of them and for me has a fairly unique appeal that justified my paying more than an equally specified R would have run to. To be fair it was almost impossible to get any significant discount on a three door of any flavour when I ordered so a bit apples and pears perhaps but I’m still beyond happy that I went with the TCR  :smiley:

See what you’re saying. Price is a huge factor when buying a car but not the only factor. The tcr is aimed at the gti enthusiast, someone who really loves the heritage of the car. Just surprised how much more it is than an R or even the standard gti. My ed35 was aimed at the same market and i can’t remember it being more than the Mk6 R. If you bought an early tcr you’re probably laughing now as that price seems a bargain. Still looking forward to seeing one on the road. Glad you’re loving the car.  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 31 August 2019, 11:52
A clip of the akrapovic exhaust

https://www.motor-talk.de/videos.html?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fembed%2F2RJo7QKAJ-g
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: ChrisTCR on 31 August 2019, 16:15
Does anyone know if VW will be offering this to current TCR owners as an upgrade?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 31 August 2019, 17:19
I guess eventually at a price of around £3k?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 31 August 2019, 18:06
The Akrapovic sounds great!

I stopped off at my local VW dealer and looked over their loaded TCR.

It's a different car to a clubsport in it's detail! ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 31 August 2019, 18:23
Did you hear the new akrapovic first hand then? 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 01 September 2019, 00:23
Does anyone know if VW will be offering this to current TCR owners as an upgrade?

I spoke to Akaprovic direct and it will be in supply via their UK dealer network although for a car in warranty, I would likely want a VW authorised dealer to undertake the work. If I was doing it, I would send the car to JZM Porsche by preference as they are leagues beyond a standard VW garage who I doubt ever do performance upgrades.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 01 September 2019, 01:34
Strangely the TCR has increased in price again on the configurator to a whopping £38195 over £2000 more than an R which is about another £600 increase again - have looked to see if anything has been added as standard but cannot see anything so presume the cost is purely Akrapovich - either way they have priced the TCR out of new sales as doubt Akrapovich laden TCR will get the discount of some 19 plates and you simply have to buy an R new or seek out a earlier TCR if really want one - obviously think the TCR is an attractive package to have tempted me away from another R but it’s not the near good enough to justify the difference between the original price and now in my opinion- not sure if anyone else can spot the why there is this £600 increase that’s maybe escaped me?

There won't be margin to play with in Akrapovic exhausts if it's titanium but at the price, it's probably stainless steel. The exhaust note on the TCR is pretty muted so it's a positive thing to have an exhaust option and it's what the car should sound like in my opinion (good find on the above clip).Even with the choice, I think I'd still have specified it without based on how we're using it. Must admit, the detailing on the tips does finish the car off well versus the standard which are just, well, standard and not what you'd hope for given the concept and the fact that it's a 'special'. There is nothing worse than a car with a droning performance exhaust on a long motorway journey so sometimes performance exhausts have downsides. I doubt the Akrapovic that comes on the TCR will have switchable baffles which is something that I would always prefer to have.

For me, the colour was a selling point over the GTI PP. Look at the miserable choice of 8 colours we get versus the 35 that Germany enjoy. I like cars in flat colours and pure grey is a beautiful rich and creamy colour. It looks superb on the GTI. It's also a good tone to clean - easy to see bug splatter and work on. It has the richness of poured cream. Probably one of my all time favourite colours on a car. What annoyed me is that Germany got the launch colour free yet we get stiffed for £600. VW don't do paint to order, i've asked but If you did paint to sample with Porsche, it would cost £3,000 and add horrible amounts of time to your build timeline. But if you're being asked to pay a large sum for a car, you should have choices. On the basis of limited colour choice, the paint has a monetary value in setting the car apart in my opinion.

On the subject of pricing, I ended up paying just over £32k for a new car to my spec which had a few extras - it came standard with so much anyway, there wasn't much to option. My spec on the configurator is over £42k now. But then I look around - Renault are offering a Megane RS Trophy R for £72k. I know it's more of a Clubsport S comparison but £72k for a hot hatch.  :shocked: I remember when you could first spec a MKVI Golf R past £40k and everyone was horrified. But to put it into perspective and I know it's not a completely fair comparison but you can pick up an early (circa 2012) McLaren MP4-12C for around £80k. While I'm no fan of McLaren, one is a performance supercar engineered from the ground up for a purpose and the other is a hot hatch platform with all the compromises that come with that. Not rubbishing either but relative to the value for that spend...

But then I read about the new Mercedes A45S announced this week which starts at £50,570.00.  :whistle: It has 415bhp and options are likely to add £5-£10k. Some of the components on the Trophy R are top class and for a driver's experience, I'm sure it's going to be celebrated like the Clubsport S. At £72k, I would want a special engine in it though. When you consider the TCR positioned relative to the top of the range offerings from other manufacturers, their pricing strategy makes more sense. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Brexit and VAG pricing strategy. I have an order in with Porsche and have been sent a letter saying that due to the political situation, they expect to levy a further 10% charge to the value of my order to 'accommodate new import requirements'. According to my dealer, the average Porsche order is around £100k so a lot of people (self included) are not happy about this prospect and I think I'll cancel. If they do that in VW and with the TCR - that's an extra £4,200.

I think this thread is lacking pictures. I'll try and get some up tomorrow!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 01 September 2019, 08:54
Your point about the 10%... I wonder if the Government will ever raise the £40k road tax hike?

Given that (unlike wages) the price of cars increases every 6-12 months, pretty soon even a reasonable Golf is likely to top out 40k, its hardly a luxury item only owned by rich people.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Clubsport S on 01 September 2019, 08:57
Strangely the TCR has increased in price again on the configurator to a whopping £38195 over £2000 more than an R which is about another £600 increase again - have looked to see if anything has been added as standard but cannot see anything so presume the cost is purely Akrapovich - either way they have priced the TCR out of new sales as doubt Akrapovich laden TCR will get the discount of some 19 plates and you simply have to buy an R new or seek out a earlier TCR if really want one - obviously think the TCR is an attractive package to have tempted me away from another R but it’s not the near good enough to justify the difference between the original price and now in my opinion- not sure if anyone else can spot the why there is this £600 increase that’s maybe escaped me?



I think this thread is lacking pictures. I'll try and get some up tomorrow!  :grin:

Some pictures of the Clubsport S and TCR together would be good  :wink:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 01 September 2019, 11:56
Your point about the 10%... I wonder if the Government will ever raise the £40k road tax hike?

Given that (unlike wages) the price of cars increases every 6-12 months, pretty soon even a reasonable Golf is likely to top out 40k, its hardly a luxury item only owned by rich people.

But that's being compensated for by finance deals which are allowing entry to cars that people would never be able to own otherwise. Look at all the car YouTubers.

It suits the government not to adjust the threshold and it's likely that as we move toward electrification, they won't be able to apply this tax to electric vehicles. It wasn't that long ago that they were trying to stimulate growth with subsidies for electric/hybrid use. I suspect as we approach the tipping point of declining revenue, they'll revisit.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 01 September 2019, 15:04
Strangely the TCR has increased in price again on the configurator to a whopping £38195 over £2000 more than an R which is about another £600 increase again - have looked to see if anything has been added as standard but cannot see anything so presume the cost is purely Akrapovich - either way they have priced the TCR out of new sales as doubt Akrapovich laden TCR will get the discount of some 19 plates and you simply have to buy an R new or seek out a earlier TCR if really want one - obviously think the TCR is an attractive package to have tempted me away from another R but it’s not the near good enough to justify the difference between the original price and now in my opinion- not sure if anyone else can spot the why there is this £600 increase that’s maybe escaped me?



I think this thread is lacking pictures. I'll try and get some up tomorrow!  :grin:

Some pictures of the Clubsport S and TCR together would be good  :wink:

Close enough? :)

(https://i.ibb.co/C5mw8kG/Beadles-31aug19.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 01 September 2019, 15:55
Strangely the TCR has increased in price again on the configurator to a whopping £38195 over £2000 more than an R which is about another £600 increase again - have looked to see if anything has been added as standard but cannot see anything so presume the cost is purely Akrapovich - either way they have priced the TCR out of new sales as doubt Akrapovich laden TCR will get the discount of some 19 plates and you simply have to buy an R new or seek out a earlier TCR if really want one - obviously think the TCR is an attractive package to have tempted me away from another R but it’s not the near good enough to justify the difference between the original price and now in my opinion- not sure if anyone else can spot the why there is this £600 increase that’s maybe escaped me?



I think this thread is lacking pictures. I'll try and get some up tomorrow!  :grin:

Some pictures of the Clubsport S and TCR together would be good  :wink:

Close enough? :)

(https://i.ibb.co/C5mw8kG/Beadles-31aug19.jpg)

Just arrived?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 01 September 2019, 16:32
The TCR is a May 2019 demo car with 3k miles, up for £30,950.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 01 September 2019, 17:19

It suits the government not to adjust the threshold and it's likely that as we move toward electrification, they won't be able to apply this tax to electric vehicles. It wasn't that long ago that they were trying to stimulate growth with subsidies for electric/hybrid use. I suspect as we approach the tipping point of declining revenue, they'll revisit.

According to this:

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables

That's zero VED for electric but for the first 5 years, you are paying £320 a year for it being over 40k - which if you look at the fully electric vehicles on offer today, that's most of them once you have optioned something like a stereo or seating.

I wonder if this is the interim taxation method for electric?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 01 September 2019, 17:44

It suits the government not to adjust the threshold and it's likely that as we move toward electrification, they won't be able to apply this tax to electric vehicles. It wasn't that long ago that they were trying to stimulate growth with subsidies for electric/hybrid use. I suspect as we approach the tipping point of declining revenue, they'll revisit.

According to this:

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables

That's zero VED for electric but for the first 5 years, you are paying £320 a year for it being over 40k - which if you look at the fully electric vehicles on offer today, that's most of them once you have optioned something like a stereo or seating.

I wonder if this is the interim taxation method for electric?

Possibly but law of innovation means and scale economies mean the prices will come down. Government can't touch electricity prices but we seem to be moving toward a rental economy so car sales in younger generation are depressed from the last research I read. Perhaps owning a car becomes the luxury. Either way, the government need to invest in infrastructure so possibly an infrastructure tax might find its way into being at some point.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 01 September 2019, 17:45
The TCR is a May 2019 demo car with 3k miles, up for £30,950.

Great colour, looks like it has a few of the right options. But I would say that, identical to mine!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 01 September 2019, 18:22
The TCR is a May 2019 demo car with 3k miles, up for £30,950.

Great colour, looks like it has a few of the right options. But I would say that, identical to mine!  :grin:

Having looked over the TCR and the bodykit, DSG, leather steering wheel and standard GTi seats, I had a smile on my face when I got back into the CS! :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 01 September 2019, 22:00
The TCR is a May 2019 demo car with 3k miles, up for £30,950.

Great colour, looks like it has a few of the right options. But I would say that, identical to mine!  :grin:

Having looked over the TCR and the bodykit, DSG, leather steering wheel and standard GTi seats, I had a smile on my face when I got back into the CS! :)

As you should, the CS is a great car.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 01 September 2019, 22:28

As promised, my Clubsport S with the TCR. I had a shot in mind for them but getting bug splatter off the CSS was the thief of time so I never made it off the drive.

First shot shows just how much ferrous fall out is on the car after a week not involving that much driving. The purple is the reaction of the korrosol to the fall out material if you're not a detailing nerd. Paint is back to a glossy, glass like finish whereas before it was quite matt and felt rough to the touch.

Who else has pictures....  :cool:

(https://i.ibb.co/B6vp2kR/L1020556-AB.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/dkSDJyD/L1020567-AB.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/L5v0PwR/L1020579-AB.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 02 September 2019, 07:38
Caffeine & Machine yesterday. Arrived too late to park out front but early enough to avoid the field.

(https://i.postimg.cc/LJq6P1Bw/2-B4-BF65-C-9-D06-4-FDC-BE36-61-BF0054-F821.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LJq6P1Bw)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Rqz6zXQF/CFF7-F6-D3-E6-BD-4277-8-E94-2-B9-A5549-B57-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Rqz6zXQF)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 02 September 2019, 09:33
Caffeine & Machine yesterday. Arrived too late to park out front but early enough to avoid the field.

(https://i.postimg.cc/LJq6P1Bw/2-B4-BF65-C-9-D06-4-FDC-BE36-61-BF0054-F821.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LJq6P1Bw)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Rqz6zXQF/CFF7-F6-D3-E6-BD-4277-8-E94-2-B9-A5549-B57-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Rqz6zXQF)

Looks great in white with the black roof.

Is C&M still a complete zoo on the weekend?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 02 September 2019, 13:14
Quote

Looks great in white with the black roof.

Is C&M still a complete zoo on the weekend?

Thanks, I have a mind thing that says a GTI should be white but the Pure Grey really does suit the TCR.

Yes, very busy as always with all three fields full by early p.m. but this weekend for the first time since we've been going every so often bikes probably outnumbered cars.  Very eclectic selection from choppers / lowriders through fully modded-up scooters and a large number of sports / super bikes.  Sadly many of the latter decided to test the rev limiters as they were leaving so another b******ing in the pipeline for Phil I imagine.

Now I'm just hoping that Watts will be along at some point to inform on how the photos have become quarter size...  :wink:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 02 September 2019, 13:19
Quote

Looks great in white with the black roof.

Is C&M still a complete zoo on the weekend?



Now I'm just hoping that Watts will be along at some point to inform on how the photos have become quarter size...  :wink:

I'll beat him to it! Just click Hotlinks for forums instead of thumbnail.

(https://i.postimg.cc/GmKBZPBL/2-B4-BF65-C-9-D06-4-FDC-BE36-61-BF0054-F821.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LJq6P1Bw)

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 02 September 2019, 13:55

I'll beat him to it! Just click Hotlinks for forums instead of thumbnail.


Thanks Jim - I'll try to remember for next time!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 02 September 2019, 14:49
Strangely the TCR has increased in price again on the configurator to a whopping £38195 over £2000 more than an R which is about another £600 increase again - have looked to see if anything has been added as standard but cannot see anything so presume the cost is purely Akrapovich - either way they have priced the TCR out of new sales as doubt Akrapovich laden TCR will get the discount of some 19 plates and you simply have to buy an R new or seek out a earlier TCR if really want one - obviously think the TCR is an attractive package to have tempted me away from another R but it’s not the near good enough to justify the difference between the original price and now in my opinion- not sure if anyone else can spot the why there is this £600 increase that’s maybe escaped me?

There won't be margin to play with in Akrapovic exhausts if it's titanium but at the price, it's probably stainless steel. The exhaust note on the TCR is pretty muted so it's a positive thing to have an exhaust option and it's what the car should sound like in my opinion (good find on the above clip).Even with the choice, I think I'd still have specified it without based on how we're using it. Must admit, the detailing on the tips does finish the car off well versus the standard which are just, well, standard and not what you'd hope for given the concept and the fact that it's a 'special'. There is nothing worse than a car with a droning performance exhaust on a long motorway journey so sometimes performance exhausts have downsides. I doubt the Akrapovic that comes on the TCR will have switchable baffles which is something that I would always prefer to have.



It is stated as titanium on the Uk website. £3k for stainless exhaust would be Dick Turpin levels of daylight robbery.

'Akrapovic' titanium sport exhaust system



Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 02 September 2019, 15:18
Quote

Looks great in white with the black roof.

Is C&M still a complete zoo on the weekend?



Now I'm just hoping that Watts will be along at some point to inform on how the photos have become quarter size...  :wink:

I'll beat him to it! Just click Hotlinks for forums instead of thumbnail.

(https://i.postimg.cc/GmKBZPBL/2-B4-BF65-C-9-D06-4-FDC-BE36-61-BF0054-F821.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LJq6P1Bw)

Tut! Half a job :rolleyes:

(https://i.postimg.cc/WpdMgydM/CFF7-F6-D3-E6-BD-4277-8-E94-2-B9-A5549-B57-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Rqz6zXQF)

Very smart!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 02 September 2019, 15:38
 :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 02 September 2019, 17:23
The oryx white does look great
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Clubsport S on 02 September 2019, 21:50

As promised, my Clubsport S with the TCR. I had a shot in mind for them but getting bug splatter off the CSS was the thief of time so I never made it off the drive.

First shot shows just how much ferrous fall out is on the car after a week not involving that much driving. The purple is the reaction of the korrosol to the fall out material if you're not a detailing nerd. Paint is back to a glossy, glass like finish whereas before it was quite matt and felt rough to the touch.

Who else has pictures....  :cool:

(https://i.ibb.co/B6vp2kR/L1020556-AB.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/dkSDJyD/L1020567-AB.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/L5v0PwR/L1020579-AB.jpg)

Great pics. Especially the last one nose to nose. If you have one of the full cars nose to nose I would love to see it  :smiley:

It looks like the TCR is sitting a little lower but it could be the colour of the cars being deceptive!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 02 September 2019, 22:24
Seeing the CSS and TCR side by side makes me realise how special the CSS looks. Don’t get me wrong, the TCR looks brilliantly but the CSS...

Also, loving the white TCR. great plate too. Think white might be my favourite TCR colour. Kind of reminds me of my white ed35 on Glendale alloys.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 02 September 2019, 22:26

Great pics. Especially the last one nose to nose. If you have one of the full cars nose to nose I would love to see it  :smiley:

It looks like the TCR is sitting a little lower but it could be the colour of the cars being deceptive!

Ta. I didn't have a great backdrop with the old barn behind but there is a shot I want to take at some point which I think you'll like. I'll post it up when done.

The CSS is lower than the TCR, if you compare the number plate levels although my drive does bank slightly. I did the same thing in my detailer's studio knowing the floor was level. There isn't much in it.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 02 September 2019, 22:41
Seeing the CSS and TCR side by side makes me realise how special the CSS looks. Don’t get me wrong, the TCR looks brilliantly but the CSS...

Also, loving the white TCR. great plate too. Think white might be my favourite TCR colour. Kind of reminds me of my white ed35 on Glendale alloys.

White would have been my second choice after Pure Grey based on how much I like white on the CSS but it would have been a bit stormtrooper on the drive!  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Clubsport S on 03 September 2019, 18:46

Great pics. Especially the last one nose to nose. If you have one of the full cars nose to nose I would love to see it  :smiley:

It looks like the TCR is sitting a little lower but it could be the colour of the cars being deceptive!

Ta. I didn't have a great backdrop with the old barn behind but there is a shot I want to take at some point which I think you'll like. I'll post it up when done.

The CSS is lower than the TCR, if you compare the number plate levels although my drive does bank slightly. I did the same thing in my detailer's studio knowing the floor was level. There isn't much in it.

Am looking forward to that photo when you get chance  :smiley:

Liked the mention of the drive looking a but Stormtrooper if you’d gone for white on the TCR  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 09 September 2019, 19:35
Great to see those photos AGB & Philip :afro:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: C3PO on 10 September 2019, 07:14
Agree great pics, cannot wait for my TCR now, just landed in the uk :nerd:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 10 September 2019, 09:40
Agree great pics, cannot wait for my TCR now, just landed in the uk :nerd:

So yours will be coming with the proper exhaust?!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: C3PO on 10 September 2019, 14:16
I seriously hope so although getting confirmation has proved almost impossible...will confirm when dealer takes delivery...arrived in Grimsby on Monday so wont be long. Definitely a MY20, and built 29th August so everything points towards that :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 10 September 2019, 14:29
Mine has arrived with the Akra exhaust.  Looks great.  Handover not for another couple of weeks though.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 10 September 2019, 15:25
Mine has arrived with the Akra exhaust.  Looks great.  Handover not for another couple of weeks though.

From the clip I've heard, it will be great and a much-needed option.  :cool:

I seriously hope so although getting confirmation has proved almost impossible...will confirm when dealer takes delivery...arrived in Grimsby on Monday so wont be long. Definitely a MY20, and built 29th August so everything points towards that :laugh:

Fingers crossed for you  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 11 September 2019, 07:11
My dealership was “unpacking” a TCR yesterday (Pure Grey, 5 door) ready for PDI which arrived a week back and that had the Akrapovic so would guess any just landed will definitely be fitted with them. No opportunity to hear it but the appearance is far better than my standard chrome tips and really does set the rear off well.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 11 September 2019, 17:14
Listers Worcester put a MY20 in their showroom on Monday, which has the Akra:

(https://i.postimg.cc/63Q9ShwJ/c5116b186784458fba24aaaf158d24a8.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 11 September 2019, 17:41
^^^That is pure Golf pornography!^^^

 :evil:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 11 September 2019, 18:45
That exhaust should have been standard from the start, looks sooo much better and suits the car.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 12 September 2019, 07:47
That exhaust should have been standard from the start, looks sooo much better and suits the car.

I have to agree with you, it looks much better. I'm not sure how easy it is to clean once deposits start building up, I'd be interested to hear of owner experiences. I am guessing it will be powder or ceramic coated.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 12 September 2019, 09:20
Will build up on the exhaust be less with the exhaust on the filter now?  But yes, not sure how I am going to clean it just yet...
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: kmpowell on 12 September 2019, 09:23
Will build up on the exhaust be less with the exhaust on the filter now?  But yes, not sure how I am going to clean it just yet...
The GPF eliminates so much residue. I’ll be hitting 7000 miles soon and my tips still look as good as the day I picked it up new.  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 12 September 2019, 13:19
That exhaust should have been standard from the start, looks sooo much better and suits the car.

I have to agree with you, it looks much better. I'm not sure how easy it is to clean once deposits start building up, I'd be interested to hear of owner experiences. I am guessing it will be powder or ceramic coated.

Definitely won't be as easy as the normal GTI tips to keep clean. But with a ceramic coating should be ok and use some citrus tar remover for any tar spots etc. As pointed out soot build-up on the newer GTI's is not a lot, whether the TCR spits out a bit more I'm not sure. Mine definitely more noticeable since the res delete.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 12 September 2019, 16:50
Will build up on the exhaust be less with the exhaust on the filter now?  But yes, not sure how I am going to clean it just yet...

It's going to be a nightmare. I'll swap mine, it's tested and bedded in so ready to enjoy.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 12 September 2019, 21:47
That exhaust definitely looks better. Not sure it’s worth the price difference overall though, £3k can buy a lot of tubing  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 12 September 2019, 22:47
Just watched the recent YouTube video from Nobby on cars, according to that Ireland are only getting 20, interesting that it has the red seatbelt line, I’d quite like that, must be an easy change?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 13 September 2019, 10:56
Just watched the recent YouTube video from Nobby on cars, according to that Ireland are only getting 20, interesting that it has the red seatbelt line, I’d quite like that, must be an easy change?

Easy change but the changeover comes with considerations for tensioning and ensuring the mechanisms are properly tested. You need someone qualified and who knows what they're doing. These guys are good https://www.quickfitsbs.com/rewebbing.php and carry warranty and indemnity protection which gave me some peace of mind.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 13 September 2019, 11:23
That exhaust definitely looks better. Not sure it’s worth the price difference overall though, £3k can buy a lot of tubing  :grin:

But building your own exhaust isn't always the best option.....   :rolleyes:

(https://i.postimg.cc/xdhmTRVx/Screenshot-2019-09-13-at-11-21-32.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: C3PO on 16 September 2019, 11:37
Mine has arrived at the dealer and the exhaust upgrade is confirmed, looks very nice...cannot wait to hear it. Pick up on Saturday so will try and post pics shortly afterwards :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 16 September 2019, 12:12
A registration for mine has appeared on the system, so another step closer :)

In addition, saw not one, but two pure grey at the weekend in the MK dealer, one in bright light (photo) and one in shade and any trepidation to colour removed, the GTI with its red trim looks great in that colour palette, bright in sunlight and darker and stealthy in the shade.

Not sure how accurate an update this is, but it was stated the Akrapovich on the GTI is rortier than the R Akrapovich and its not just a mimic - we shall see.

Apparently the driver of the TCR loves it.

Quick chat with a sales guy also confirmed that the MK 8 R will be 400 BHP and the MK 8 GTI Performance will be a TCR matching 290 BHP and that the interior completely mimics the Touraeg set up.

Another unsurprising update was that the discounts have started on the MK 7 run out and will obviously get keener as the MK 8 gets closer.

(https://i.postimg.cc/bNtmBjDH/DC888-BB9-CE48-4552-8-E43-F227-D2-B08758.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TpTjKFcp)

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 16 September 2019, 12:35
That grey was always going to be a good colour.

If VWUK had released that colour years ago I could see it being the most popular colour by a long old way and probably sealed a lot of sales.

You could have an Audi in it or a Skoda in it, but not a Golf.

Stupid.

BTW has anyone heard a date yet for the end of Mk7 production? That's still the key thing for me...
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 16 September 2019, 12:51
A TCR with Prets, nice choice   :cool: Not many out of the flood of them on the AT with the Prets
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 16 September 2019, 13:04
@hertsman - the fact you've asked a sales guy about the mk8 r is bad enough as they know absolutely nothing about anything they sell  :grin:
I'd take his info with a huge pinch of salt at this stage.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 16 September 2019, 13:07
That grey was always going to be a good colour.

If VWUK had released that colour years ago I could see it being the most popular colour by a long old way and probably sealed a lot of sales.

You could have an Audi in it or a Skoda in it, but not a Golf.

Stupid.

BTW has anyone heard a date yet for the end of Mk7 production? That's still the key thing for me...

Obviously see a lot of R now opposed to when received my R three years ago and there was a nice feel of driving something different from the pack and think the TCR and the grey will give that feel of being a little different while keeping some VW reserve and not being garishly different. - Thats not a knock on the R, would have happily had another as most of the pleasure is in the driving but at the level of finer details the grey will be relatively rare and so will give that feeling described.

Think Frankfurt is October? so you must think MK 8 become available to order soon after though imagine books close on MK 7 to order and there is a phased change to MK 8 as fulfil the orders - not seen a factual date though.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 16 September 2019, 13:10
@hertsman - the fact you've asked a sales guy about the mk8 r is bad enough as they know absolutely nothing about anything they sell  :grin:
I'd take his info with a huge pinch of salt at this stage.

To be fair to the guy he seemed as much as an enthusiast as sales guy and from my own now decent knowledge he gave no inaccuracies on the MK 7 as we talked through that - so I actually believed him as he seemed someone who has made a point to know out of his own interest - obviously we shall see :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 16 September 2019, 13:27
Mine has arrived at the dealer and the exhaust upgrade is confirmed, looks very nice...cannot wait to hear it. Pick up on Saturday so will try and post pics shortly afterwards :smiley:

Mine is also with the dealer at the moment, but unable to collect until the week after you.  Also can't wait to hear it as sense the youtube clips won't do it justice.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 16 September 2019, 13:35
@hertsman - the fact you've asked a sales guy about the mk8 r is bad enough as they know absolutely nothing about anything they sell  :grin:
I'd take his info with a huge pinch of salt at this stage.

 :grin: Never met a car salesperson who knows anything about a yet to be launched new model!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 16 September 2019, 13:49
Think Frankfurt is October? so you must think MK 8 become available to order soon after though imagine books close on MK 7 to order and there is a phased change to MK 8 as fulfil the orders - not seen a factual date though.

The Frankfurt Motor Show is happening now; 12/09/2019 - 22/09/2019, and VW are using Frankfurt to showcase the ID3 all electric car. They wouldn’t (and didn’t) unveil the mk8 at the same time as the ID3, as it could dilute the impact of the ID3’s debut.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 16 September 2019, 16:49
By the way.  As anyone managed to check if the MY20 models got the upgraded key fob?  Think I read a few pages back Seat?? had got new ones on MY20 which didn't transmit the signal once no movement was detected.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 16 September 2019, 18:06
Saw my first TCR today on the M25, a foreign registered 5 door in black with black wheels. Unfortunately the black masked all the details so I couldn't appreciate the differences. One thing though with all the recent talk about exhausts, the chrome tail pipes stuck out and looked wrong. This might be partly due to the colour of the car but I think the Akra thingy exhaust will suit better.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 16 September 2019, 22:55
A TCR with Prets, nice choice   :cool: Not many out of the flood of them on the AT with the Prets

I thought that too Jim. Guess it'll be a rarer spec choice with the price increase now too. When I spec'd the TCR, I put an Instagram poll out as I couldn't decide. I think black Pretoria versus Reifnitz was 150 to 8 in favour of the Prets.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 17 September 2019, 08:23
A TCR with Prets, nice choice   :cool: Not many out of the flood of them on the AT with the Prets

I thought that too Jim. Guess it'll be a rarer spec choice with the price increase now too. When I spec'd the TCR, I put an Instagram poll out as I couldn't decide. I think black Pretoria versus Reifnitz was 150 to 8 in favour of the Prets.

My reason for picking the reifnitz was firstly simply liked them, the style and the matte finish, secondly they were different as already been on pretoria for last 3 years, thirdly cheaper and finally think the tyres on the reifnitz would suit my daily driving need far more than the cups on the pretoria - Given them stats imagine my thinking was of the many.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 17 September 2019, 09:35
Yes, I don't mind the Reifinitz wheels and as you say, it is a new wheel for the Mk7.5. I've detailed a fair few cars and matt black are the worst to work on if they haven't been cleaned properly so I'm not really a fan of black wheels in genera. For me, I'd probably get a TCR with DCC on the 18's and then upgrade to some nice 19s.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 17 September 2019, 10:13
A TCR with Prets, nice choice   :cool: Not many out of the flood of them on the AT with the Prets

I thought that too Jim. Guess it'll be a rarer spec choice with the price increase now too. When I spec'd the TCR, I put an Instagram poll out as I couldn't decide. I think black Pretoria versus Reifnitz was 150 to 8 in favour of the Prets.

My reason for picking the reifnitz was firstly simply liked them, the style and the matte finish, secondly they were different as already been on pretoria for last 3 years, thirdly cheaper and finally think the tyres on the reifnitz would suit my daily driving need far more than the cups on the pretoria - Given them stats imagine my thinking was of the many.

I phrased that poorly. 150 people were in favour of the Pretorias. The 8 in favour of the Reifnitz gave all the reasons you gave.

Wasn't wild about the Reifnitz in all the photographs I saw but liked them when I saw them in the metal. They're not too bad to clean with a wheel woolie either.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 17 September 2019, 12:39
A TCR with Prets, nice choice   :cool: Not many out of the flood of them on the AT with the Prets

I thought that too Jim. Guess it'll be a rarer spec choice with the price increase now too. When I spec'd the TCR, I put an Instagram poll out as I couldn't decide. I think black Pretoria versus Reifnitz was 150 to 8 in favour of the Prets.

My reason for picking the reifnitz was firstly simply liked them, the style and the matte finish, secondly they were different as already been on pretoria for last 3 years, thirdly cheaper and finally think the tyres on the reifnitz would suit my daily driving need far more than the cups on the pretoria - Given them stats imagine my thinking was of the many.

I phrased that poorly. 150 people were in favour of the Pretorias. The 8 in favour of the Reifnitz gave all the reasons you gave.

Wasn't wild about the Reifnitz in all the photographs I saw but liked them when I saw them in the metal. They're not too bad to clean with a wheel woolie either.

On re-read can see that now and no surprise really as the Pretoria are a great looking wheel I stumped up the ££ for them on my R as personally thought the R deserved them to complete the package.

Seems in reality that maybe some additional thinking had most eventually tick the reifnitz box

Made a point of really looking at the caps on the two pure grey (one with Pretoria and one with reifnitz) that saw at weekend and agree that the caps match the reifnitz really well so be no need for me to replace them now and its just another little unique touch - however if had settled for Pretoria then gloss black caps would be a much better choice.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 17 September 2019, 12:55
Yes, I don't mind the Reifinitz wheels and as you say, it is a new wheel for the Mk7.5. I've detailed a fair few cars and matt black are the worst to work on if they haven't been cleaned properly so I'm not really a fan of black wheels in genera. For me, I'd probably get a TCR with DCC on the 18's and then upgrade to some nice 19s.

Seen a couple on you tube with own wheel choice and each worked really well, - its an easy car to dress with new rims and some great choices out there.

Like the Reifnitz (actually like that name is the town where the VW yearly gathering is) and that car receiving is going to be as close to the concept now also, so staying stock is not the worst thing this time around. 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 17 September 2019, 13:15
Yes, I don't mind the Reifinitz wheels and as you say, it is a new wheel for the Mk7.5. I've detailed a fair few cars and matt black are the worst to work on if they haven't been cleaned properly so I'm not really a fan of black wheels in genera. For me, I'd probably get a TCR with DCC on the 18's and then upgrade to some nice 19s.

Seen a couple on you tube with own wheel choice and each worked really well, - its an easy car to dress with new rims and some great choices out there.

Like the Reifnitz (actually like that name is the town where the VW yearly gathering is) and that car receiving is going to be as close to the concept now also, so staying stock is not the worst thing this time around.

No at all, think you'll be very happy with your TCR, especially with the Akra exhaust  :cool:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 17 September 2019, 23:27
Yes, I don't mind the Reifinitz wheels and as you say, it is a new wheel for the Mk7.5. I've detailed a fair few cars and matt black are the worst to work on if they haven't been cleaned properly so I'm not really a fan of black wheels in genera. For me, I'd probably get a TCR with DCC on the 18's and then upgrade to some nice 19s.

Seen a couple on you tube with own wheel choice and each worked really well, - its an easy car to dress with new rims and some great choices out there.

Like the Reifnitz (actually like that name is the town where the VW yearly gathering is) and that car receiving is going to be as close to the concept now also, so staying stock is not the worst thing this time around.

The Oz wheels I have are very similar to the Pretoria. Would share a picture of them but they're boxed so this is closest example:

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Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 18 September 2019, 06:33
Those looks great. Helped by a very clean R and big brake kit  :cool:

So Andrew @ Volkswizard has done a short sound comparison between a TCR with the new Akra and one without. Got to say, disappointed to hear there is hardly any difference between the 2 and possibly to me the one without sounds better. Guessing it could be that the latest Akra equipped one is literally brand new so would think would start to sound better once it’s fully run. But it you’d just stumped up £3k don’t think you’d be overly impressed.

What do others think?

https://youtu.be/J__kY5Jl7Ps
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 18 September 2019, 08:44
Those looks great. Helped by a very clean R and big brake kit  :cool:

So Andrew @ Volkswizard has done a short sound comparison between a TCR with the new Akra and one without. Got to say, disappointed to hear there is hardly any difference between the 2 and possibly to me the one without sounds better. Guessing it could be that the latest Akra equipped one is literally brand new so would think would start to sound better once it’s fully run. But it you’d just stumped up £3k don’t think you’d be overly impressed.

What do others think?

https://youtu.be/J__kY5Jl7Ps

Based on that video you would say stock sounds the more rortier of the two - The stock apparently was a specially tuned exhaust for the TCR so you always expected it to have its own talents.

EDIT: just listened again with some back and forth and the Akrapovic is deeper in tone and sounded better than my first listen, seems to be less overrun pops but maybe that is the part that comes with some miles?

On other videos you definitetly get more crackle and pop, this is just one, but a few on there now  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Siu2boaWPCA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Siu2boaWPCA)



The likelihood is that the stock has a few miles on it now and being only just released the Akrapovic is still settling in and so the may make a difference??

Was not overly impressed with the R when received it was definitely drowned by the Aktuator fakery but as miles were put on, the note definitely improved and I really like its deep tone and overrun abilities - its not raucous but for me a nice compliment that makes me feel like driving something different, with performance.

Other Youtube videos are a little kinder, there is some of the expected crackles on them, so maybe they more run in?

Not saying the Akrapovic goes down that same path but think its accepted that note does improve in exhausts as miles are covered

One thing not to contest is that the tips look the part, obviously not £3k the part,  :grin: but they look good regardless.

There is going to be a small group of us, some very soon, who are getting the Akrapovic so pretty sure an honest appraisal will be given.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 18 September 2019, 09:09
I think its hard to judge from that clip as the sound quality was pretty awful. *I am listening on a laptop which may not help but still...

I think its been said before its hard to get a true/good clip of the Akrapovic but a lot of people who hear it prefer the sound overall.  Pops and crackles I am not worried about but rather the overall sound so will reserve judgement until I hear it in person.

Either way, I think its hard to justify that price no matter what it sounded like.  However, I will be happy to have it as think it will add to the looks and the overall sound (or thats the expectation).  Not so worried about pops and bangs :)

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 18 September 2019, 09:13
Yes, think it's likely to be low miles on the 69 plate press car. Would hope it would sound better as the miles increase.

But yes the tips look great and suit the car perfectly.

It is annoying that VW haven't done a bit more with the performance Golfs. I'm sure they would be a great market for some performance-related, warranty-approved accessories such as different wheels, exhausts, intakes, remaps etc. Almost sure they would be a market for these things.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 18 September 2019, 13:03
Those looks great. Helped by a very clean R and big brake kit  :cool:

Agree. I've spent a bit of time on the racing line website and am thinking of some upgrades to the CSS. I feel I need to do a back to back comparison so might head over to MK where they're based and try their demonstrator.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 18 September 2019, 13:18
Those looks great. Helped by a very clean R and big brake kit  :cool:

So Andrew @ Volkswizard has done a short sound comparison between a TCR with the new Akra and one without. Got to say, disappointed to hear there is hardly any difference between the 2 and possibly to me the one without sounds better. Guessing it could be that the latest Akra equipped one is literally brand new so would think would start to sound better once it’s fully run. But it you’d just stumped up £3k don’t think you’d be overly impressed.

What do others think?

https://youtu.be/J__kY5Jl7Ps

Both exhausts have to meet the noise regulations so I suppose there’s not too much the actual volume can be turned up by VW/Akra but the titanium system does sound more aggressive and has a proper bark to it.
It’s not a £3k better noise though!
The standard system actually sounds quite good, but the Akra just sounds that bit more motorsport.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 18 September 2019, 16:00
Having now watched the clips a couple times on my TV with sub-woofer turned on as this obviously mimics real life in the same way as Audi advertise their RS models in heavy bass surround sound cinemas  :whistle:

I actually prefer the sound of the pre-Akra exhaust but do appreciate as above that exhausts take time to bed in. The Akra definitely has a more aggressive snarl at certain points but I like the deep toned original too.
How different they sound from inside the car though?

Anyway, VW have taken the choice away so maybe that’s a good thing. It’ll be interesting to see how much £££ difference in retained values between 19 and 20 MY’s in a couple years.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 23 September 2019, 13:38
As my GTI TCR is arriving soon been thinking what feel could have added to the R that would have been of benefit over its time and the two items that think would be useful are a decent boot liner and some clear bumper protection (as it does scratch pretty easily).

Before start searching thought best to ask here where folk have found the best solutions either OEM or next best product?

Have allowed myself a small GTI indulgence and ordered 2 x genuine GTI silicone key covers

Now think the caps suit the Reifnitz wheels and abandoned switching them, not anything else that can think of that would really desire and be beneficial other than these 2 items, though open to some must have GTI accessory suggestions as this is my first GTI having danced around it for many years.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 23 September 2019, 13:57


Have allowed myself a small GTI indulgence and ordered 2 x genuine GTI silicone key covers

 though open to some must have GTI accessory suggestions as this is my first GTI having danced around it for many years.

2 silicone covers, you've gone wild then?!

I'm not sure there are any must-have GTI accessories, to be honest. T-Shirt and cap if you want to resemble Joey from Friends! Some would probably say rubber mats and mudflaps!  :grin:

A nice keyring is always as far as I go with accessories.

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Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 23 September 2019, 14:14


Have allowed myself a small GTI indulgence and ordered 2 x genuine GTI silicone key covers

 though open to some must have GTI accessory suggestions as this is my first GTI having danced around it for many years.

2 silicone covers, you've gone wild then?!

I'm not sure there are any must-have GTI accessories, to be honest. T-Shirt and cap if you want to resemble Joey from Friends! Some would probably say rubber mats and mudflaps!  :grin:

A nice keyring is always as far as I go with accessories.

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The covers not much of an investment so see how much like them, and do like that 'Clark' patterned key ring - Though the TCR is understated to some when thinking performance cars its actually a little on the edge for me! and that carries into other areas so there be no GTi Baseball caps etc :grin:

One thing lived without but am now mulling is dashcam, which have looked at the nextbase 522 G with rear view but my issue is that they are a little intrusive (in size and fitting) sitting up there - not really looked at before so need to go see them in flesh and see just how big/small etc they actually are - parking mode is one of the useful features given how many times the R was dinked
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 23 September 2019, 16:19
Yes, agreed with the dashcam. Bought a Nextbase 212 to try for my first GTI and had it hardwired in by Halfords and have installed in my current one. So many idiots it just gives you a bit more peace of mind but wouldn't call it a GTI accessory as such! Would prefer one with a better parking mode than mine though.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 26 September 2019, 21:14
Nice spec - Prets, Akra, Nav Pro, 2k Miles

£35.5k

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Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 27 September 2019, 00:59
As my GTI TCR is arriving soon been thinking what feel could have added to the R that would have been of benefit over its time and the two items that think would be useful are a decent boot liner and some clear bumper protection (as it does scratch pretty easily).

Before start searching thought best to ask here where folk have found the best solutions either OEM or next best product?

Have allowed myself a small GTI indulgence and ordered 2 x genuine GTI silicone key covers

Now think the caps suit the Reifnitz wheels and abandoned switching them, not anything else that can think of that would really desire and be beneficial other than these 2 items, though open to some must have GTI accessory suggestions as this is my first GTI having danced around it for many years.

Don't buy a VW boot liner, they're not worth the money and they're not that great a product. I bought a Weather Tech liner  (https://www.weathertecheurope.com/uk/volkswagen/2019/golf-gti/cargo-liner/) and it's so much more durable and better made. You also get a heavy duty roll out matt to cover the lip and rear bumper to prevent it scratching the tailgate. It's affixed with press studs and tucks out the way neatly. It's also useful in winter if you need to lean into the car as it means you don't get any of the muck that will be sucked up the back of your car on your trousers. Unclip the studs and wipe down or rinse. I was sceptical but believe it's the best solution to the problem.

I looked at PPF - the cutting pattern is a waste of time, it doesn't provide enough coverage and the standard cutting patterns that you get with Xpel have similar shortcomings.

£96 might seem a lot but you've got a better product on both counts and you can take it into your next car. I'll post up some pictures as I've actually got the TCR this week. Went for grey to complement the Pure Grey of the TCR and I must confess to liking the lift it gives the black on black on black on black of the standard boot.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 27 September 2019, 12:04
As my GTI TCR is arriving soon been thinking what feel could have added to the R that would have been of benefit over its time and the two items that think would be useful are a decent boot liner and some clear bumper protection (as it does scratch pretty easily).

Before start searching thought best to ask here where folk have found the best solutions either OEM or next best product?

Have allowed myself a small GTI indulgence and ordered 2 x genuine GTI silicone key covers

Now think the caps suit the Reifnitz wheels and abandoned switching them, not anything else that can think of that would really desire and be beneficial other than these 2 items, though open to some must have GTI accessory suggestions as this is my first GTI having danced around it for many years.

Don't buy a VW boot liner, they're not worth the money and they're not that great a product. I bought a Weather Tech liner  (https://www.weathertecheurope.com/uk/volkswagen/2019/golf-gti/cargo-liner/) and it's so much more durable and better made. You also get a heavy duty roll out matt to cover the lip and rear bumper to prevent it scratching the tailgate. It's affixed with press studs and tucks out the way neatly. It's also useful in winter if you need to lean into the car as it means you don't get any of the muck that will be sucked up the back of your car on your trousers. Unclip the studs and wipe down or rinse. I was sceptical but believe it's the best solution to the problem.

I looked at PPF - the cutting pattern is a waste of time, it doesn't provide enough coverage and the standard cutting patterns that you get with Xpel have similar shortcomings.

£96 might seem a lot but you've got a better product on both counts and you can take it into your next car. I'll post up some pictures as I've actually got the TCR this week. Went for grey to complement the Pure Grey of the TCR and I must confess to liking the lift it gives the black on black on black on black of the standard boot.

Thanks AGB, its the reason always ask and do not go immediately rogue, just saves from poor decisions.

Had looked about and what seen myself had just left me wondering on the quality of the product.

The boot liner and the bumper protection have always been an irritant that would like to resolve hence asked and think you found the perfect 2 in 1 answer! The ££ is not an issue always prepared to pay if think the quality genuinely matches the performance and price.

Think its £144 with the bumper protection.

Immediate thought would be the black option but if can post photos of the grey open to similarly being convinced as you.

Thanks for guidance - anything else you done for the GTI that adds?

I am sitting in a VW dealership at the moment as R is having service and MOT and there is a white TCR with Akrapovic in here and surprised me a little as the Akrapovic is more stealth than the chrome pipes, they sit deeper than the chrome pipes, level with the diffuser and being titanium they are not bright and so less noticeable - however they do have a real solid presence and def look the part - if sound the part is something that will find out soon but nice to see them in flesh.

EDIT: having just seen a TCR with standard pipes think its more an illusion as they do not sit any different, its just the type of metal and the much thinner diameter of the Akrapovic that make them look a little stealthier to the bright thicker chrome tips - the akrapovic certainly fit the space nicely must admit - definietly would not have paid for them, rock solid certain on that, but am liking what see, and hopefully hearing is same thoughts.

Also noted the DSG cover has had the alcantara removed for what seems like a fake leather (or maybe just a new hard leather till softens) and confirm the seatbelts do not have the red stripe

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Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: AGB on 27 September 2019, 15:18
Here you go Hertsman, I think this will give you a feel for the product.

Just cleaning the car for my wife so took a pre extraction picture so you can see the setup.

The roll folds completely flat and doesn't get in the way. I took a shot of the fixing points - four press studs. It's secure and never comes off. It has to deal with a 13KG Welsh Terrier enthusiastically trying to get out for his walk on a regular basis and despite paws and claws, you can see there are no signs of wear or damage. Even if it did get damaged, it's about £15 to replace. 

The grey doesn't match Pure Grey but it does brighten up the boot a bit. I've got a black one in the CSS and it's just as nice but being dark, shows every spec where the grey is a bit more forgiving. All personal choice of course.

Spoke to my detailer and they have the same cutting pattern as VW so the PPF option can't really be bettered and on reflection, now that I have this, think it offers better protection but also protection I didn't count on needing. My wife being shorter than me, needs to lean further in to get to the back of the boot so it saves her clothes getting filthy. You can position that to your wife before mentioning all the impractical accessories that you added!  :smiley:

I don't think there's much else I'd do. I got key protectors on ebay, just to stop the key getting dinged. I have a GTI keyring in silicone which I rather like too.

Make sure the dealer sponsors this sort of additional stuff although the Weathertech not being official won't be an option of course.

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Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sjw on 27 September 2019, 15:49

Also noted the DSG cover has had the alcantara removed for what seems like a fake leather (or maybe just a new hard leather till softens) and confirm the seatbelts do not have the red stripe



I have a GTI PP, and the leather around the DSG. Is the R alcantara then?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 27 September 2019, 21:24

Also noted the DSG cover has had the alcantara removed for what seems like a fake leather (or maybe just a new hard leather till softens) and confirm the seatbelts do not have the red stripe



I have a GTI PP, and the leather around the DSG. Is the R alcantara then?

No, the TCR had an alcantara one but sounds like they’ve changed it to leather. Was odd choice as steering wheel is leather.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 27 September 2019, 21:35
They have probably now used up all of the alcantara DSG gaiters left over from the CS production run? :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 28 September 2019, 09:03
Late to this having been on vacation and a digital “emergency only” regime courtesy of the chief household officer, which I have to say has been very refreshing :wink:

2.2k miles on and the exhaust sounds really good, possibly slightly more throaty than the one in AC’s video clip. I’d rather have the Akra tips for appearance sake but otherwise wouldn’t bother and will live in hope that BMS produce billet ends for the 95mm tailpipes.

Great to hear there are several TCR’s just about to be handed over to their first careful owners. I haven’t seen another on the road so far.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 28 September 2019, 16:47
A red TCR passed me in Dawlish earlier, anyone here?
The exhaust (non Akra) sounded very fruity!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 30 September 2019, 09:58
The TCR goes head to head with the new Focus

No surprise in the final analysis as PH have always leaned to the others, but only one car I would personally take and have.

Having said that think the Hyundai N would definitely get a look if budget was compromised and my car did not have to do the daily drive superbly also and happy to change gears myself.

Nice to see the Type R omitted also so not have to read that bore factor of it being the real drivers car etc, and so on.

If I was looking for something rawer I would likely look at and be open to other options but daily drive is big requirement box to tick and these reviews never really consider that, its completely focused on the type of driving I might only be able to do on infrequent occasions and though others edge it for the writers in these stakes think the MK 7 will be the car want to be driving around in when doing the normal miles for the drive and the cabin (Focus interior  :sick:) and be more than entertaining enough when can push through a few of the nice open driving roads that know.

https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features/focus-st-vs-golf-tcr-vs-megane-trophy-vs-i30-n/41029 (https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features/focus-st-vs-golf-tcr-vs-megane-trophy-vs-i30-n/41029)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 30 September 2019, 10:47
Picked up my TCR over the weekend.  MY20 - Akra exhaust.

Gear gator is Alcantara not leather so not sure why the white one above is with leather!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 30 September 2019, 11:15
Picked up my TCR over the weekend.  MY20 - Akra exhaust.

Gear gator is Alcantara not leather so not sure why the white one above is with leather!

Random parts bin dipping on the line imagine :) not fussed either way if honest, so lets see what I get in the lucky dip when time comes.

Look forward to initial impressions and a couple of photos, as yes we all seen a TCR now, but its always nice to see thats someones own TCR :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 30 September 2019, 11:43
Will try to get some photos up in due course.

Not really had enough time with it to put thoughts down yet (past the obvious) as not had much time with it but will put some down over the coming days.

Really happy with the colour and think the mirrors match the wheels nicely (Reifnitz) as someone mentioned swapping them out - just my opinion but think it looks great as is.  First petrol station I pulled in to I got a comment on the car.  Crazy as this has never happened before and I was hoping it would be fairly low key.

Akra sounds 'ok' but haven't really opened up on the revs yet so expect it to come on song at higher rpm.  However, it looks much better for having them imo.

Will take some time to get used to the nav unit.  Really miss the iDrive from the BMW and can't see me growing to prefer this, but tend to use Apple car play more and more so maybe it won't be a big deal...

I really like the AID, but wish it was slighter sharper resolution.  But to be expected from being a MK7.5 with the MK8 around the corner. 

By the way, is there a way to show fuel remaining (in miles) when using Nav on AID?  I can see the gauge but like a countdown .  I can also see it in the dials, but quite like the speed showing.  Maybe I am just hoping for too much configuration  :smiley:

Suspension is much more comfortable and it corners flatter (to my feel) than my old m135i.  Maybe an unfair comparison as it did have the DCC equivalent.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 30 September 2019, 12:12
Will try to get some photos up in due course.

Not really had enough time with it to put thoughts down yet (past the obvious) as not had much time with it but will put some down over the coming days.

Really happy with the colour and think the mirrors match the wheels nicely (Reifnitz) as someone mentioned swapping them out - just my opinion but think it looks great as is.  First petrol station I pulled in to I got a comment on the car.  Crazy as this has never happened before and I was hoping it would be fairly low key.

Akra sounds 'ok' but haven't really opened up on the revs yet so expect it to come on song at higher rpm.  However, it looks much better for having them imo.

Will take some time to get used to the nav unit.  Really miss the iDrive from the BMW and can't see me growing to prefer this, but tend to use Apple car play more and more so maybe it won't be a big deal...

I really like the AID, but wish it was slighter sharper resolution.  But to be expected from being a MK7.5 with the MK8 around the corner. 

By the way, is there a way to show fuel remaining (in miles) when using Nav on AID?  I can see the gauge but like a countdown .  I can also see it in the dials, but quite like the speed showing.  Maybe I am just hoping for too much configuration  :smiley:

Suspension is much more comfortable and it corners flatter (to my feel) than my old m135i.  Maybe an unfair comparison as it did have the DCC equivalent.

I have always thought the MK 7 O/S was just ok, improved from the MIB 1 to 2 but still in need of a lot of work, and also the screen resolution (you should see how poor the early MK 7 MIB screens were in resolution)

Other than a cursory look (screen and O/S fatigue given work in IT industry and with developers, I think) not really seen the display in action so coming from dials of my MK 7 some learning will need to be done there - But imagine my thinking stay the same, in that the VW O/S is quite clean and functional but could be made so much better and so no surprise to read you say the iDrive was better as it is, though will counter that slightly by saying maybe its a little too fussy and convoluted.

However, after 6 years already in a MK 7 cabin, its still a nice place to be, good quality and the simplicity and layout is one of its positives also - The A35 AMG that looked at did initially wow but fatigue soon set in on it just being more screes and funky O/S - There was also some quality issue with switches IMO, plastic/chrome

So the MK 7.5 might not be pushing any boundaries on the interior and it maybe falls behind some of others in terms of tech but also its miles ahead of other competitors in being a nice place to be.

Once set up I tend to change little, and just drive, my main go to is just the radio and if going to do some miles its podcasts from BBC Sounds on the CarPlay which is much much better now, though wish it was bluetooth.

I am strangely looking forward to the TCR getting dirty and being a little stealthy in winter as do think it will attract more attention even if to many its still quite VW restrained - I have no idea how I would cope with a Type R if thats my thinking

Jury out on Akrapovic sound obviously as nobody had one long enough to run in, and if worth the ££ comes into that assessment too, but one thing there is no doubt, is that look pretty good :)

Is that 4 on the forum now?

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 01 October 2019, 09:06
A rare English review on the TCR with a head to head with a Megane Trophy by EVO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwP5--0VI78 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwP5--0VI78)

No surprise in the result as from all understand the Trophy is well set up to be great on a track but was interesting to see that TCR was only one second down on the R on same track and at reassuringly at a pace and series of bends I am highly unlikely to ever undertake on my travels the TCR was sticking like glue on the turn in, some squeal yes, but no getting out of shape at all.

The Megane Trophy however was quite lively and even in this guys capable hands he did have a minor shock moment as he backed off into a corner.

Also, that Trophy interior  :sick:

Good overall comments on the TCR on the original drive around which is more where my interest lied.

My feeling is that TCR is going to be a completely different drive to my present R and there will be some learning no matter how familiar I am with the MK 7 as the R is completely point and go and R then takes care of everything else, where maybe the TCR demands a little more from me? will know soon :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 01 October 2019, 14:49
A rare English review on the TCR with a head to head with a Megane Trophy by EVO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwP5--0VI78 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwP5--0VI78)

No surprise in the result as from all understand the Trophy is well set up to be great on a track but was interesting to see that TCR was only one second down on the R on same track and at reassuringly at a pace and series of bends I am highly unlikely to ever undertake on my travels the TCR was sticking like glue on the turn in, some squeal yes, but no getting out of shape at all.

The Megane Trophy however was quite lively and even in this guys capable hands he did have a minor shock moment as he backed off into a corner.

Also, that Trophy interior  :sick:

Good overall comments on the TCR on the original drive around which is more where my interest lied.

My feeling is that TCR is going to be a completely different drive to my present R and there will be some learning no matter how familiar I am with the MK 7 as the R is completely point and go and R then takes care of everything else, where maybe the TCR demands a little more from me? will know soon :)

This head to head test was in the evo magazine a few months ago and made for an interesting read. In the article, essentially the TCR was a little better but he still chose the Megane. Which isn't a reflection on the real world as factor in day to day liveability and then re-saleabiity/depreciation and suddenly the Golf has got to be the one.

The more interesting thing was when I read what tyres were fitted to this high performance, track and fast road-oriented Megane.. Yes, the dreaded S001! Funny that Renault chooses to fit what most of us think of as an outdated tyre.

Apart from special edition, lightweight 19-inch alloys shod with Bridgestone Potenza S001 tyres, there’s little to differentiate the Trophy from the regular RS but, unlike the overly familiar, sober-suited Golf (or, indeed, the absurdly addended Civic Type-R), the Megane nails the sweet spot between tasteful muscularity and conspicuous circuit ambition and simply looks the biz.

But at speed on these roads with Sport selected, massive grip, quick and feel-full steering, a completely nailed down front end and the neutral/edge-of-oversteer balance (with ultimate ESC safety net) is more engaging than anything the Golf can muster. It will force you to tap into levels of concentration you probably didn’t realise you had.





Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 October 2019, 19:55
I'm just waiting for the replies saying Renault and VW haven't a clue what they are doing with tyres :whistle:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 01 October 2019, 20:53
I'm just waiting for the replies saying Renault and VW haven't a clue what they are doing with tyres :whistle:

They know what they are doing, just what they are doing isn't necessarily what owners want.

The things they are doing are:

1) Trying to get some sort of gamed CO2 figures.
2) Getting the cheapest tyres they can get away with through some sort of huge mega buy that lasts multiple years.

In these criteria, I am sure they are perfectly happy with the result.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 October 2019, 06:22
I'm just waiting for the replies saying Renault and VW haven't a clue what they are doing with tyres :whistle:

They know what they are doing, just what they are doing isn't necessarily what owners want.

The things they are doing are:

1) Trying to get some sort of gamed CO2 figures.
2) Getting the cheapest tyres they can get away with through some sort of huge mega buy that lasts multiple years.

In these criteria, I am sure they are perfectly happy with the result.
How about both cars were developed with that particular tyre because the characteristics of the tyre suited what they wanted the car to drive like?  :wink: :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 02 October 2019, 17:50
A rare English review on the TCR with a head to head with a Megane Trophy by EVO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwP5--0VI78 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwP5--0VI78)

No surprise in the result as from all understand the Trophy is well set up to be great on a track but was interesting to see that TCR was only one second down on the R on same track and at reassuringly at a pace and series of bends I am highly unlikely to ever undertake on my travels the TCR was sticking like glue on the turn in, some squeal yes, but no getting out of shape at all.

The Megane Trophy however was quite lively and even in this guys capable hands he did have a minor shock moment as he backed off into a corner.

Also, that Trophy interior  :sick:

Good overall comments on the TCR on the original drive around which is more where my interest lied.

My feeling is that TCR is going to be a completely different drive to my present R and there will be some learning no matter how familiar I am with the MK 7 as the R is completely point and go and R then takes care of everything else, where maybe the TCR demands a little more from me? will know soon :)

Noted on another forum that the intake sounds are different and maybe just mic placement but the TCR was making some nice sounds (never picked it up as just watched from phone, but on a PC with headphones you hear everything)

Still not established whether there is a Soundaktor or whether everything is native? any of new owners confirm, and thoughts on sounds in this video, the opinion was its not stock with the intake noises it was making? 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 03 October 2019, 07:13
It’s how the car sounds, nothing artificial at all and no Sondaktor. I haven’t ragged mine to the same extent as in the Evo track test by any means but when given the beans it makes some very nice noises and there is noticeable intake sound but I would say overall you hear more engine noise than my previous PP so perhaps there’s less, or a different approach to, engine bay / firewall sound insulation.

Do you have a date yet Hertsman?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 03 October 2019, 09:28
It’s how the car sounds, nothing artificial at all and no Sondaktor. I haven’t ragged mine to the same extent as in the Evo track test by any means but when given the beans it makes some very nice noises and there is noticeable intake sound but I would say overall you hear more engine noise than my previous PP so perhaps there’s less, or a different approach to, engine bay / firewall sound insulation.

Do you have a date yet Hertsman?

Thats good to read as tend to stay in individual just to have the soundaktor turned to ECO (basically off)

I would rather less noise than artificial noise - The R cabin is pretty well insulated but do enjoy the natural deep tones and overruns that do hear and from what you saying it seems that there is an increased natural element to the drive, but not onerous, so hopefully the right balance

Had my registration confirmed and that the car which arrived a couple of weeks ago has now been moved to the dealer, presumably for its PDI, so just awaiting the call to agree delivery :)

Had a spell of really enjoying my R again after ordering the TCR, including an 800 mile round trip around Jurassic coast, then settled back into a period of just driving it, but last week or so been appreciating its virtues again, and kinda sad its going as feel so at one with it, - TCR has a lot to live up to. 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 03 October 2019, 09:43
Here you go Hertsman, I think this will give you a feel for the product.

Just cleaning the car for my wife so took a pre extraction picture so you can see the setup.

The roll folds completely flat and doesn't get in the way. I took a shot of the fixing points - four press studs. It's secure and never comes off. It has to deal with a 13KG Welsh Terrier enthusiastically trying to get out for his walk on a regular basis and despite paws and claws, you can see there are no signs of wear or damage. Even if it did get damaged, it's about £15 to replace. 

The grey doesn't match Pure Grey but it does brighten up the boot a bit. I've got a black one in the CSS and it's just as nice but being dark, shows every spec where the grey is a bit more forgiving. All personal choice of course.

Spoke to my detailer and they have the same cutting pattern as VW so the PPF option can't really be bettered and on reflection, now that I have this, think it offers better protection but also protection I didn't count on needing. My wife being shorter than me, needs to lean further in to get to the back of the boot so it saves her clothes getting filthy. You can position that to your wife before mentioning all the impractical accessories that you added!  :smiley:

I don't think there's much else I'd do. I got key protectors on ebay, just to stop the key getting dinged. I have a GTI keyring in silicone which I rather like too.

Make sure the dealer sponsors this sort of additional stuff although the Weathertech not being official won't be an option of course.


Seems read this on move and then forgot to reply:

Weathertech looks real quality there and the grey does work really well and was convinced, but was telling a colleague what planned to do and he convinced me to hold my horses as he has in his garage a 'Cool-Liner' thats in wrapping and completely unused - He bought it for his GTI PP but the garage surprisingly gave him an OEM version and some other bits and bobs for a delayed delivery.

He back in the office next week so he bringing it in then for me: The weathertech is £120 with postage and as much as will pay the ££ for right item he says the cool-liner is truly decent, as good as any OEM, and I should see it first - will cost me a breakfast so thats what doing.

In terms of bumper protection, my loading is more infrequent and general so have bought a strip of 3M ventureshield for that top edge and will just see how it lies and how intrusive it is.

I have bought the OEM silicone GTI key protectors also and they look great

Think thats me done in terms of accessory, given coming from the black on black R environment, its like a smorgasbord of red accents and trimmings in comparison, so need to stay on the side of tasteful

Thanks for taking the time to post the images, much appreciated,

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 03 October 2019, 15:49
What date are you looking for pickup?  Fairly soon if pdi is soon or are you aligning with giving the R back?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 05 October 2019, 09:26
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-fleet/volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr---ph-fleet/41070

Unusual for a fleet car to be a run out model  :wink:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 05 October 2019, 10:08
If you’re in the market for a tcr I reckon you’ll get a bargain if you hold on. Mk8 reveal this month plus lots and lots of choice on AT.

Still not seen one on the road but looking forward to it. Hopefully they’ll be more photos on the forum soon. It’ll be worth the wait.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 05 October 2019, 12:26
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-fleet/volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr---ph-fleet/41070

Unusual for a fleet car to be a run out model  :wink:

Interesting about the decals.
Both of the local dealers nearest to me in either direction sold showroom cars and the customers asked for the decals to be removed.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jason b on 05 October 2019, 14:27
Local dealer to me has a white example without decals fitted with Acroprovics  41 k
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 07 October 2019, 10:11
Local dealer to me has a white example without decals fitted with Acroprovics  41 k

Would anyone actually pay list price for one?!!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 07 October 2019, 10:50
Local dealer to me has a white example without decals fitted with Acroprovics  41 k

Would anyone actually pay list price for one?!!

£41k is a sh!tty RRP. For the sake of a grand on list price, you cop for an extra £1500 VED over 5 years.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 07 October 2019, 11:31
£41k is a sh!tty RRP. For the sake of a grand on list price, you cop for an extra £1500 VED over 5 years.

Wouldn't you imagine they'd go out of their way to make that sub £40k... its not like there isn't a massive margin on RRP anyway.

It certainly would put me off of buying it vs anything else similar that was sub 40k
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 07 October 2019, 11:49
£41k is a sh!tty RRP. For the sake of a grand on list price, you cop for an extra £1500 VED over 5 years.

Wouldn't you imagine they'd go out of their way to make that sub £40k... its not like there isn't a massive margin on RRP anyway.

It certainly would put me off of buying it vs anything else similar that was sub 40k

It would certainly put me on off unless you got such a good discount that you can include the extra £350 a year or whatever it is for the first 4/5 years.

I’ve been looking at replacements and there are some used bargains to be had. I’m almost sure they’d be some nice TCRs when I change next year with low miles but would be checking options carefully especially with the recent price hike it doesn’t take much to go over £40k.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 09 October 2019, 21:56
Have now ticked over the 3k mile point in mine and I still haven’t passed another out in the wild, where are they, just sat for sale it seems?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 10 October 2019, 07:33
Likewise, 2.5k and haven’t seen another on the road. In the same period I have seen two Huracán‘s and quite a few 650/720 MCL’s so the child in me is taking great pleasure in driving something apparently more exclusive than a £200k supercar, although of course to 99% of the motoring public the TCR is just another Golf whereas the Macca and Lambo are clearly rather special  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 10 October 2019, 09:39
I've seen a white one parked up and only spotted it as it had the full side decals. Very rare indeed.

They are definitely all sat in dealers as up to nearly 80 advertised on AT now.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: graham9883 on 10 October 2019, 16:49
my tcr has been at scorpion exhaust this week having there system made up, will try and post some videos at the weekend, should be getting it mapped early November reckon I should get about 350/360 bhp
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 18 October 2019, 13:38
my tcr has been at scorpion exhaust this week having there system made up, will try and post some videos at the weekend, should be getting it mapped early November reckon I should get about 350/360 bhp

How's the new exhaust?

Had a nosey around and proper sit in this today. Must say, I really like the interior and feels a bit more special than mine. Obviously being brand new helps but the Alcantara on the doors and the use of extra leather really helps I think.

(https://i.postimg.cc/4yHSNTgc/0-Csg0-Sn-HTdq3-OXbxwp-SG1-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bS8T3WdY)

Outside the Prets looked great but think as they are glossy it needs the matching mirrors as the matt finish does seem to work better with the Reifnitz alloys. The Akrapovic looks really aggressive. And I think the white works quite well in the metal but those decals are just a no.

This one was optioned up to £41750 which is plenty!

Oddly enough after leaving JCT, I saw a filthly looking grey TCR which is the first I've seen driving. And then a lovely red 3dr CS parked up shortly after.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 18 October 2019, 14:12
my tcr has been at scorpion exhaust this week having there system made up, will try and post some videos at the weekend, should be getting it mapped early November reckon I should get about 350/360 bhp

How's the new exhaust?

Had a nosey around and proper sit in this today. Must say, I really like the interior and feels a bit more special than mine. Obviously being brand new helps but the Alcantara on the doors and the use of extra leather really helps I think.

(https://i.postimg.cc/4yHSNTgc/0-Csg0-Sn-HTdq3-OXbxwp-SG1-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bS8T3WdY)

Outside the Prets looked great but think as they are glossy it needs the matching mirrors as the matt finish does seem to work better with the Reifnitz alloys. The Akrapovic looks really aggressive. And I think the white works quite well in the metal but those decals are just a no.

This one was optioned up to £41750 which is plenty!

Oddly enough after leaving JCT, I saw a filthly looking grey TCR which is the first I've seen driving. And then a lovely red 3dr CS parked up shortly after.

Coming from the R which is very plain in comparison on the interior, quite enjoying having all the little red accents around me, adds to the scratching of the GTi itch as definitely feel like in one and its a nice feeling.

Convert to the virtual cockpit also and think the quality of screen and fact its glass is a huge lift over the MK 7 -

Of course enjoying having the Akrapovich and looking forward to hearing it when bedded in but remain consistent that there is not a £3000 detraction but not having it, and if in market today I would be looking at the earlier and much cheaper models that are sitting on forecourts - Imagine also that more squeeze on deals on the earlier and that Akrapovich might reduce the margin of discount that can be given?

Pretty sure there is some forecourt TCR in mid to low £30k and thats a significant saving over even a discounted Akrapovich laden one.

Saw a TCR in white a few months back on Pretoria and definitely would have matched the caps to gloss - AGB suggested I wait as I was near ordering Gloss in advance, and confirmed that Reifnitz match the caps perfectly.

Normally you would have someone make an argument for the decals, and honestly say have not see anyone.

The White I saw had the black roof and the panoramic roof, which with the additional trim, the gloss black Prets and the 90% made it look a bit too contrasted and patchwork - Cannot remember who has the white TCR are on here but he had it nailed in styling adding some really nice complimentary wheels.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sjw on 18 October 2019, 14:15
my tcr has been at scorpion exhaust this week having there system made up, will try and post some videos at the weekend, should be getting it mapped early November reckon I should get about 350/360 bhp

How's the new exhaust?

Had a nosey around and proper sit in this today. Must say, I really like the interior and feels a bit more special than mine. Obviously being brand new helps but the Alcantara on the doors and the use of extra leather really helps I think.

(https://i.postimg.cc/4yHSNTgc/0-Csg0-Sn-HTdq3-OXbxwp-SG1-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bS8T3WdY)

Outside the Prets looked great but think as they are glossy it needs the matching mirrors as the matt finish does seem to work better with the Reifnitz alloys. The Akrapovic looks really aggressive. And I think the white works quite well in the metal but those decals are just a no.

This one was optioned up to £41750 which is plenty!

Oddly enough after leaving JCT, I saw a filthly looking grey TCR which is the first I've seen driving. And then a lovely red 3dr CS parked up shortly after.

That looks f**kING sharp
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 18 October 2019, 14:48
my tcr has been at scorpion exhaust this week having there system made up, will try and post some videos at the weekend, should be getting it mapped early November reckon I should get about 350/360 bhp

How's the new exhaust?

Had a nosey around and proper sit in this today. Must say, I really like the interior and feels a bit more special than mine. Obviously being brand new helps but the Alcantara on the doors and the use of extra leather really helps I think.

Outside the Prets looked great but think as they are glossy it needs the matching mirrors as the matt finish does seem to work better with the Reifnitz alloys. The Akrapovic looks really aggressive. And I think the white works quite well in the metal but those decals are just a no.

This one was optioned up to £41750 which is plenty!

Oddly enough after leaving JCT, I saw a filthly looking grey TCR which is the first I've seen driving. And then a lovely red 3dr CS parked up shortly after.

Coming from the R which is very plain in comparison on the interior, quite enjoying having all the little red accents around me, adds to the scratching of the GTi itch as definitely feel like in one and its a nice feeling.

Convert to the virtual cockpit also and think the quality of screen and fact its glass is a huge lift over the MK 7 -

Of course enjoying having the Akrapovich and looking forward to hearing it when bedded in but remain consistent that there is not a £3000 detraction but not having it, and if in market today I would be looking at the earlier and much cheaper models that are sitting on forecourts - Imagine also that more squeeze on deals on the earlier and that Akrapovich might reduce the margin of discount that can be given?

Pretty sure there is some forecourt TCR in mid to low £30k and thats a significant saving over even a discounted Akrapovich laden one.

Saw a TCR in white a few months back on Pretoria and definitely would have matched the caps to gloss - AGB suggested I wait as I was near ordering Gloss in advance, and confirmed that Reifnitz match the caps perfectly.

Normally you would have someone make an argument for the decals, and honestly say have not see anyone.

The White I saw had the black roof and the panoramic roof, which with the additional trim, the gloss black Prets and the 90% made it look a bit too contrasted and patchwork - Cannot remember who has the white TCR are on here but he had it nailed in styling adding some really nice complimentary wheels.

Yep, can't think you'll many with decals apart from the ones for sale on AT.

There does seem to plenty from £30-34k. I think you are right and guess an aftermarket exhaust can be added for a lot less than the £3k extra on the list price. 

I've just checked on the new configurator and even if you have the free white paint and then add the Reifnitz wheels you end up at £40065 so into the high tax bracket which seems utterly stupid.



That looks f**kING sharp

Agreed!

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: andy28 on 18 October 2019, 15:04
Looks fantastic but think I would leave the decals off too. Prets are a lovely wheel and I keep looking at them for mine... but I hit a big pothole on my way from work this week and the Belvedere alloy seems fine - I don't think a Pret would have survived  :cry:.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 18 October 2019, 15:13
Looks fantastic but think I would leave the decals off too. Prets are a lovely wheel and I keep looking at them for mine... but I hit a big pothole on my way from work this week and the Belvedere alloy seems fine - I don't think a Pret would have survived  :cry:.

Yes, that is a worry with Prets I guess but never had a set so can't say how vulnerable they are. I do like the Reifnitz option as well.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 18 October 2019, 15:23
Agree on the decals, however on some of the European ones the decals look like a shade of the bodywork rather than black so they are a lot less noticeable.  If this was the option (and it had been significantly cheaper) I may have looked at them a little more seriously.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sjw on 18 October 2019, 15:24
I'd probably have the decals. I'm relatively young (almost 25), so maybe that makes a difference. The average buyer of one of these is probably going to be older than me, given the price
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 18 October 2019, 15:40
Agree on the decals, however on some of the European ones the decals look like a shade of the bodywork rather than black so they are a lot less noticeable.  If this was the option (and it had been significantly cheaper) I may have looked at them a little more seriously.

Thought I imagined that, but yes there is some more subtle ones that blend opposed to standing so prominent. - Still, would have had to have been a standard option that had option to remove before considered as that £550 bought me a climate screen and 90% tints

Noticed there is some TCR decal kits on E-Bay which are relatively cheap and imagine can order in matching grey and no reason if done properly they not look exactly the same for fraction of price.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 18 October 2019, 15:46
I'd probably have the decals. I'm relatively young (almost 25), so maybe that makes a difference. The average buyer of one of these is probably going to be older than me, given the price

I had an RS2000 when I was younger than I am today and used to add all sorts of bits and pieces to that, and so completely get what you say, but times moved on and so I am little more adverse to such things.

Shame they do not do the 3 Door as think they work better on that form and as just been said the European decals colour match so more subtle, and think that combination is the best one.

We always have a 3 door as our second car but no getting away on how unpractical they are for daily family use.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 18 October 2019, 15:51
Looks fantastic but think I would leave the decals off too. Prets are a lovely wheel and I keep looking at them for mine... but I hit a big pothole on my way from work this week and the Belvedere alloy seems fine - I don't think a Pret would have survived  :cry:.

Yes, that is a worry with Prets I guess but never had a set so can't say how vulnerable they are. I do like the Reifnitz option as well.

My Prets were like butter, only clipped them a handful of times, but you would think was kerbing them constantly!

Sure the reifnitz will get a kerb at some point, but the rear camera might help me more than previous as its brighter and clearer than the outgoing

Reminds me, anyone know where can get the reifnitz paint code as hope to do some spot repairs when that time comes.

Did hit a few pot holes like everyone else and and no damage that I was aware of, with the tyre change had just before handed it back not flagging any issues.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 18 October 2019, 16:00
I'd probably have the decals. I'm relatively young (almost 25), so maybe that makes a difference. The average buyer of one of these is probably going to be older than me, given the price

I had an RS2000 when I was younger than I am today and used to add all sorts of bits and pieces to that, and so completely get what you say, but times moved on and so I am little more adverse to such things.

Shame they do not do the 3 Door as think they work better on that form and as just been said the European decals colour match so more subtle, and think that combination is the best one.

We always have a 3 door as our second car but no getting away on how unpractical they are for daily family use.

Think 3 door was available for a very short time - there are about 6 on AT. Do look good but like you say just a bit too unpractical for most people.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: sjw on 19 October 2019, 08:40
Hold up - I probably wouldn't have the decals if they're a cost option! I thought they came as standard and you could opt to remove them
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 19 October 2019, 08:53
Looks fantastic but think I would leave the decals off too. Prets are a lovely wheel and I keep looking at them for mine... but I hit a big pothole on my way from work this week and the Belvedere alloy seems fine - I don't think a Pret would have survived  :cry:.

Yes, that is a worry with Prets I guess but never had a set so can't say how vulnerable they are. I do like the Reifnitz option as well.

My Prets were like butter, only clipped them a handful of times, but you would think was kerbing them constantly!

Sure the reifnitz will get a kerb at some point, but the rear camera might help me more than previous as its brighter and clearer than the outgoing

Reminds me, anyone know where can get the reifnitz paint code as hope to do some spot repairs when that time comes.

Did hit a few pot holes like everyone else and and no damage that I was aware of, with the tyre change had just before handed it back not flagging any issues.
Same camera is in all mk7s and 7.5s and numerous other iterations too. You seem quite obsessed in thinking that your TCR has different everything than previous golfs. It doesn't but it's still a lovely looking car.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 19 October 2019, 09:38
Hold up - I probably wouldn't have the decals if they're a cost option! I thought they came as standard and you could opt to remove them

No, they relieve you of £550 for the privilege of having the decals!!!  :shocked:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: andy28 on 19 October 2019, 09:55
Looks fantastic but think I would leave the decals off too. Prets are a lovely wheel and I keep looking at them for mine... but I hit a big pothole on my way from work this week and the Belvedere alloy seems fine - I don't think a Pret would have survived  :cry:.

Yes, that is a worry with Prets I guess but never had a set so can't say how vulnerable they are. I do like the Reifnitz option as well.

My Prets were like butter, only clipped them a handful of times, but you would think was kerbing them constantly!

Sure the reifnitz will get a kerb at some point, but the rear camera might help me more than previous as its brighter and clearer than the outgoing

Reminds me, anyone know where can get the reifnitz paint code as hope to do some spot repairs when that time comes.

Did hit a few pot holes like everyone else and and no damage that I was aware of, with the tyre change had just before handed it back not flagging any issues.
Same camera is in all mk7s and 7.5s and numerous other iterations too. You seem quite obsessed in thinking that your TCR has different everything than previous golfs. It doesn't but it's still a lovely looking car.

I did think the reverse lights were brighter on the mk7.5 I had vs my mk7 though so that could help I guess.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 19 October 2019, 14:01
Are they not led on the 7.5? That would help. The mib screen might be different on FL. It's exactly the same camera though.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 19 October 2019, 16:45
Looks fantastic but think I would leave the decals off too. Prets are a lovely wheel and I keep looking at them for mine... but I hit a big pothole on my way from work this week and the Belvedere alloy seems fine - I don't think a Pret would have survived  :cry:.

Yes, that is a worry with Prets I guess but never had a set so can't say how vulnerable they are. I do like the Reifnitz option as well.

My Prets were like butter, only clipped them a handful of times, but you would think was kerbing them constantly!

Sure the reifnitz will get a kerb at some point, but the rear camera might help me more than previous as its brighter and clearer than the outgoing

Reminds me, anyone know where can get the reifnitz paint code as hope to do some spot repairs when that time comes.

Did hit a few pot holes like everyone else and and no damage that I was aware of, with the tyre change had just before handed it back not flagging any issues.
Same camera is in all mk7s and 7.5s and numerous other iterations too. You seem quite obsessed in thinking that your TCR has different everything than previous golfs. It doesn't but it's still a lovely looking car.

Think that’s a little harsh as differences appreciating are the MK 7 > MK 7.5 that are new to me and one huge lift Is the resolution and brightness of the glass screen, which makes the reverse feature so much clearer than the MK 7 where you sort of peered into the darkness a little where I park on a relatively poorly lit road - tend to have to parallel park quickly and did clip the prets a few times so having a little bit of reverse visibility via screen is appreciated- never said rear lights were brighter and having spent 6 years in GTD and R both mark 7 fully aware of the commonality and reading back the only difference mentioned were MK7.5 ones

On that subject did find another new feature that liked the high beam assist is pretty damn good, down some dark twisting B roads you could see it dim and adjust to oncoming traffic and when no traffic was coming toward it was like light was making its own tunnel given how wide and bright the arc is.

Accept my GTI exuberance is quite high but obsessed is a little strong as an adjective 😊
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 19 October 2019, 17:12
It was the camera you were talking about not the screen and you previously thought your DCC was TCR specific too. It's your new car so naturally very exciting 👍 but at the end of the day it's a 7.5gti with some little frilly bits on. I've had the camera on both my mk7 golfs and never thought it was dark on the screen but I've also had nav pro on both too so maybe that's made a difference.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 19 October 2019, 23:56
It was the camera you were talking about not the screen and you previously thought your DCC was TCR specific too. It's your new car so naturally very exciting 👍 but at the end of the day it's a 7.5gti with some little frilly bits on. I've had the camera on both my mk7 golfs and never thought it was dark on the screen but I've also had nav pro on both too so maybe that's made a difference.

There lies the answer as the standard screen on the MK 7 is nowhere near as bright and as clear as what I am seeing now on this MK 7.5 - Your Pro screen must be of much better resolution which suppose would expect given it’s an upgrade

In terms of the DCC it clearly says there is a difference - now I have no idea what this means technically but every review stated the DCC was firmer than the GTI/R though I will say that now driven it feels very compliant still and even in sport it fidgets on a poor surface opposed to any crashing

But this is what have been referencing so not making it up from an exuberance

Dynamic Chassis Control (DCC) including running gear that is lower by 20mm compared with the normal running gear (five millimetres less as compared to the GTI running gear) as well as a special sports adjustment of the front axle and rear axle shock absorbers.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 October 2019, 09:21
Sounds like the same setup as the Leon Cupra R ST. It's got a slightly different camber on it but the DCC system itself is the same. I'm not putting your car down in any way and the Leon I drove felt very very good with its DCC suspension. If I was ready to change I'd be looking at TCRs 👍👍
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Dan - TCR on 20 October 2019, 17:28
Sounds like the same setup as the Leon Cupra R ST. It's got a slightly different camber on it but the DCC system itself is the same. I'm not putting your car down in any way and the Leon I drove felt very very good with its DCC suspension. If I was ready to change I'd be looking at TCRs 👍👍

The DCC system on the Leon will not be the same as on the golf, nor will the Audi to the golf. They differentiate on purpose to remove the customer perceived commonality between other OEMs within group. The TCR is indeed more track focused, and has been developed with that in mind. No hardware change is needed, but the infinitely variable DCC software can be calibrated to however VW want it to feel, and to me, having driven both cars, it does feel different.

 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 21 October 2019, 06:27
Yes the Audi is different but I'm sure the part no's are the same on the golf and Leon DCC. It's the slight camber change that probably makes the difference in both cars.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Ado on 11 November 2019, 17:03
Picked mine up last week where it went straight for full bumper and bonnet PPF. Pure white and only option is Climate screen, it is the 3020 MY20 golf built according to the VIN and built on tues.

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Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 11 November 2019, 17:08
Looks great!

Although most people will think you have a 2-year-old Golf! :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Ado on 11 November 2019, 17:17
Looks great!

Although most people will think you have a 2-year-old Golf! :grin:

That was the plan! Only those who know will know.... :wink:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 12 November 2019, 16:02
Lovely looking car Ado  :cool:
Sensible spec too, the climate screen will be a godsend.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 12 November 2019, 16:48
Lovely looking car Ado  :cool:
Sensible spec too, the climate screen will be a godsend.

Only used the climate screen for condensation as not had a freeze morning yet but works impressively to point you take no condensation for granted. Also like the 'tint' it gives when you walk up to the car in certain lights - given the decals for example were £550 and the black roof over £600 the climate screen seemed good value at £320

Another hit was the 90% tints, relatively low cost at £90 and was concerned they be too much contrast, but really add to the look and all passengers make comment and have said they love sitting behind them
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Ado on 12 November 2019, 17:24
Lovely looking car Ado  :cool:
Sensible spec too, the climate screen will be a godsend.

Thanks. The last one on 18 didn't have DCC and was fine so opted without on this, plus the fact I really like the belvedere meant I saved £2k. Still waiting to test out the screen on cold days like Hertsman, but I've been leaving the fan off and the screen is kept clear when all the other Windows mist up so a great option.

Only tweak so far is to turn on slam lock via obd eleven so it auto locks
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 12 November 2019, 20:09
If I’d bought mine new I’d have almost definitely skipped the 19” and DCC option after driving the actual car I bought (which has Reifnitz) earlier in the summer as the DCC doesn’t impress me over and above the normal passive suspension.
I’d have just got my Pretorias powder coated satin black, transferring them from my Clubsport.

That’s a partial fib as I was offered an excellent deal on an in stock car with Reifnitz via evo1986 back in August that I wasn’t able to buy due to expensive kids needing dad “loans” but if I’d had to actually put in a fresh order I’d planned going basic spec plus heated screen.

The heated screen was the big draw in the end to purchase the ex-staff/launch car I did buy as I work shifts and tend to use the car during the coldest darkest hours by far the most.

Ironically I’ve not had to use the heated screen yet as the only two frosty mornings so far I’ve been using a different car!  :rolleyes:
Does the heated front screen switch on with the HRW button?
I’ve yet to RTFM!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Ado on 12 November 2019, 20:16
Either way your TCR still looks great, I am really glad I stuck with white.

The screen is operated via the menu button under the auto button, I have mine set to automatic in the settings so I never have to touch it.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 13 November 2019, 12:19
Either way your TCR still looks great, I am really glad I stuck with white.

The screen is operated via the menu button under the auto button, I have mine set to automatic in the settings so I never have to touch it.

Thank you and thank you!  :smiley:
Despite there being a coating of snow on nearby Dartmoor yesterday, even at 4:30 this morning I still didn’t get to use the HFS. I’ll have a scroll through the menus later to see if it’s already been activated by the supplying dealer sales manager who ran the car for a couple months. 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 06 December 2019, 14:01
Do not think I will ever get near to pushing it this hard, but does show its capability, and as article says it does look pretty composed belying the pace being set https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general/golf-gti-tcr-clocks-8-04-at-the-ring/41376 (https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general/golf-gti-tcr-clocks-8-04-at-the-ring/41376)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 08 December 2019, 21:49
Along way behind CSS time. But I like my pan roof and heated windscreen! Plus pootling to work with dsg
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 January 2020, 16:36
Sorry to resurect an old thread but I'm going to look at a TCR tomorrow with the view of either buying the demo or ordering new. At the moment I'm on Pure Grey, climate screen and Dynaudio and until I drive the demo tomorrow which doesn't have DCC I'm undecided about the DCC. I've had it on both my 7s and really liked it but speccing it will take me well over 40k before discounts. I've also foregone nav pro for the first time which I hope I won't regret. I could go white and save the 620 quid on the grey. Too much choice 😂😂
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Andy198 on 04 January 2020, 17:02
If you've always had DCC, then you'll probably miss it; so the test drive is going to be absolutely key. Mine's (not TCR) in Comfort 80% of the time and I wouldn't be without it. I appreciate its very divisive though and plenty are perfectly happy to be without.

I think Nav Pro is a waste - the standard screen is nearly as big and OK, you can't have the map on both, but in day to day, it doesn't matter.

I think climate screen, grey and Dynaudio are good, solid choices  -I wish mine had Dynaudio but I wouldn't wait.

Good luck with the test drive, you'll know by the end of it about the ride and then can have a think.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 04 January 2020, 17:40
What happened with the Cupra flirtations Chris?

After just over 2 months and just under 2000 miles I’d still be just as happy without DCC.
I’d ok but it’s not the be all and end all. It’s one of those things that are ideal for people that like pushing buttons and changing settings all the time.
I like simple. I like to get in a car and not need to set up dozens of things.

The only thing with DCC on the TCR is that it comes with a wheel package and the car looks better with the upgraded wheels IMO.
Still, at least you get lovely Bridgestones on the 18’s  :wink:

The climate screen isn’t as good as I’d hoped but not had chance to test it much this winter (thankfully)

The Dynaudio is much better than I’d expected after a disappointing experience with it in my mk6 many moons ago.

The TCR looks best in grey but I love my white one.

(https://i.postimg.cc/15fDh9Ng/E2-DEB54-E-4-F3-B-412-B-83-C4-C3-FE6-D39-DF28.png) (https://postimg.cc/Xp6r96L3)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 January 2020, 18:01
If you've always had DCC, then you'll probably miss it; so the test drive is going to be absolutely key. Mine's (not TCR) in Comfort 80% of the time and I wouldn't be without it. I appreciate its very divisive though and plenty are perfectly happy to be without.

I think Nav Pro is a waste - the standard screen is nearly as big and OK, you can't have the map on both, but in day to day, it doesn't matter.

I think climate screen, grey and Dynaudio are good, solid choices  -I wish mine had Dynaudio but I wouldn't wait.

Good luck with the test drive, you'll know by the end of it about the ride and then can have a think.
cheers for the reply, much appreciated.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 January 2020, 18:11
What happened with the Cupra flirtations Chris?

After just over 2 months and just under 2000 miles I’d still be just as happy without DCC.
I’d ok but it’s not the be all and end all. It’s one of those things that are ideal for people that like pushing buttons and changing settings all the time.
I like simple. I like to get in a car and not need to set up dozens of things.

The only thing with DCC on the TCR is that it comes with a wheel package and the car looks better with the upgraded wheels IMO.
Still, at least you get lovely Bridgestones on the 18’s  :wink:

The climate screen isn’t as good as I’d hoped but not had chance to test it much this winter (thankfully)

The Dynaudio is much better than I’d expected after a disappointing experience with it in my mk6 many moons ago.

The TCR looks best in grey but I love my white one.

(https://i.postimg.cc/15fDh9Ng/E2-DEB54-E-4-F3-B-412-B-83-C4-C3-FE6-D39-DF28.png) (https://postimg.cc/Xp6r96L3)
The local Seat dealer was offering crap trade in and wouldn't even entertain any discounts and that was before the finance rates of 6.1%! Golfs are currently on 0% so it would be remiss of me to at least explore 😉. You can spec DCC without the 19s which is what I'd probably do. Can anyone confirm that the list price includes the OTR figures too? If I go grey, screen, Dynaudio and DCC it takes me to 40154 but I'm sure someone said the 40k luxury car price didn't include the OTR costs.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 04 January 2020, 18:52
^ Chris,

I'd forget the Demo, if it's been pre registered then it's not new. If it's not new, you won't get 0% finance or 4.9% with deposit contribution, more like around 9% APR.

Unlike Audi, I'm pretty sure that VW still quote OTR costs within the sticker price/RRP.

Performance Golf prices are verging on the ridiculous now - peoples car? Not at those prices.

How does a TCR cost a grand more than an R? I'm presuming that at 290ps, the TCR is also recommended to run on ultimate fuel? Are current Rs and TCRs running same gear ratios for economy? My old manual R (and presumably the old 6 speed DSG) had a ridiculously low 6 speed ratio, hammering the motorway cruising fuel economy. If the ratios are the same, I'd assume fuelling cost differences between an R and TCR are negligible.

I would feel obliged to get Prets on an R because Cadiz are hideous, but I could easily live with the design of the TCR's standard wheels.

Comfort-wise, there seemed to be something a bit magic about the R's suspension settings in that my old one on 19" Prets was far more comfortable/composed than my old GTD on 18" wheels - it seemed to defy logic.

It's a shame that the manual option has completely been taken out of contention.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 January 2020, 18:56
Just going for the test drive more than likely Matt and to see if I can live without DCC 😉. The R is heavier than both the gtd and GTi so ride wise if felt more planted to the road. That's the feeling I got when I drove the R back to back with the GTi before buying mine.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 04 January 2020, 19:11
Just going for the test drive more than likely Matt and to see if I can live without DCC 😉. The R is heavier than both the gtd and GTi so ride wise if felt more planted to the road. That's the feeling I got when I drove the R back to back with the GTi before buying mine.

Without having driven a TCR, I couldn't say for sure, but on paper I just couldn't choose a TCR over an R, pay a grand more and not feel a bit short-changed.

That TCR better drive magically to be worth the difference.

Is there any major equipment difference that the TCR gains such as extra special brakes/exhaust that I'm missing to justify not only the £1000 difference, but the cost of the Haldex system you're not getting on the TCR?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Andy198 on 04 January 2020, 19:13
I think the higher TCR cost is that someone at VW thought it would be a great idea to fit the Akrapovic Titanium exhaust as standard. I'd much rather have £3k to spend on something else..
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 04 January 2020, 19:17
I think the higher TCR cost is that someone at VW thought it would be a great idea to fit the Akrapovic Titanium exhaust as standard. I'd much rather have £3k to spend on something else..

That'll explain it. Like you I'd rather have the £3k. £3k will buy you a lot aftermarket. That exhaust sounds extremely poor value for money.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 January 2020, 20:59
The R in comparison to even a GTi is rather plain and boring so all the online reviewers say. The GTi performance and TCR are more engaging and fun. Most of the reviewers say the GTi with less weight makes it a better drive but I know these things are quite subjective. I could just change my GTi pp for a 7.5pp with the same extras for near as damn it the same price as what I'm paying now.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 05 January 2020, 00:08
on paper I just couldn't choose a TCR over an R, pay a grand more and not feel a bit short-changed.

That TCR better drive magically to be worth the difference.


The TCR is one of those cars that are nigh on impossible to justify on paper without really going into fine details.
There has been no official mention of it but to me it feels like a lot of the Clubsport and CSS suspension development has gone into the TCR.
I wouldn’t mind betting the springs are almost identical to the Ed40 CS having gone from one straight into the other (fractionally harder than regular GTI but still fine sans DCC)
In all ‘sensible’ comparisons the R would win over the TCR, no question of that. The R has the traction, ride quality and maturity along with better drag race launch control times. And I’m sure that point to point flat out the R would arrive home quickest.
Unlike the Ed40 I’m sure the R will hold value better than a TCR too.
But...
The TCR has some aces up its sleeve. It feels like a hot hatch, it sounds like a hot hatch, it looks like a hot hatch and it drives like an incredibly accomplished hot hatch. It’s a bit of an odd car to be blunt but it’s huge fun on the right roads driving solo.
Very unlikely anyone would be able to plumb its depths on a test drive, and on mine I was a little disappointed coming straight from the Ed40. But there was something nagging at me and certain reviewers who were clued up heaped praise on it. Once I had the keys in my grasp for a few days I gradually realised why.
It’s a GTI for people that want a bit more than a standard GTI PP but don’t really want an R. Damned if I would ever recommend someone to buy one over an R but I don’t think many would regret it if they did.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 January 2020, 08:43
According to Andrew (volkswizard) the TCR has more bhp per tonne than the R. He did a video of 10 reasons why the TCR is better than an R. The other thing is insurance costs on the R due to a load being stolen. I don't fancy being one of the statistics.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 05 January 2020, 09:04
It’s a GTI for people that want a bit more than a standard GTI PP but don’t really want an R. Damned if I would ever recommend someone to buy one over an R but I don’t think many would regret it if they did.

Nail on the head.  It's a GTI, and an R, no matter how much more accomplished or quicker off the line, isn't a GTI.  The price differential between the GTI and R over the lifetime of the Mk7/7.5 has never been that significant as to mean that someone shopping for one couldn't possibly afford the other, and back in the days of cheap PCP deals the R was often less on a monthly than the GTI, and I would think that the majority of GTI owners went out to purchase a GTI, as I did despite paying more than the R would have run to.

Having now put 4k+ on my TCR I can say it really is a very accomplished car and I've yet to find any area of the experience leaving me wanting more or different.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Zermatt on 05 January 2020, 09:06
Perhaps already said on here but I see the GTI/ R split for VW being similar to the Carrera/GT/Turbo split for Porsche.

GTI = Carrera
GTI Performance= Carrera S
GTI Clubsport 40/ TCR  =Carrera GTS
GTI Clubsport S=GT3
R =Turbo
R- Performance =Turbo S

I doubt we will see a Mk 8 TCR ... as the VW TCR Race program has ended
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 January 2020, 09:22
According to Andrew (volkswizard) the TCR has more bhp per tonne than the R. He did a video of 10 reasons why the TCR is better than an R. The other thing is insurance costs on the R due to a load being stolen. I don't fancy being one of the statistics.

Sounds like you've already made your mind up Chris - better get that TCR ordered before the books close on it.

Not sure if insurance will be an issue with the R - I don't recall scores of Rs being stolen in Tyne and Wear. My R cost me £10 a year less than my GTD and the premiums didn't go up significantly in the subsequent years I had it.

I'm sure Volkswizard could come up with 10 reasons to get an R over a TCR (most based on practical real world use rather than ideal track conditions). Both will be good cars, they're 2 sides of the same coin.

I think your biggest issue with either will be whether you'll come to like DSG or just have to live with it - like me, I'd so much rather be in a manual, if VW hadn't taken that choice away.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 05 January 2020, 09:26
Perhaps already said on here but I see the GTI/ R split for VW being similar to the Carrera/GT/Turbo split for Porsche.

GTI = Carrera
GTI Performance= Carrera S
GTI Clubsport 40/ TCR  =Carrera GTS
GTI Clubsport S=GT3
R =Turbo
R- Performance =Turbo S

I doubt we will see a Mk 8 TCR ... as the VW TCR Race program has ended

Someone made exactly the same comparison on Twitter this week.

Personally I agree that there won’t be a TCR in name but they’ll be two trim levelS of gti. Also, the Edition 45 will appear fairly early in the Mk8 lifecycle which will be interesting. Due 2021?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 05 January 2020, 09:28

Tbf Andrew isn’t a fan of the R at all. Most of his recent videos have been The (insert name) is better than an R. He claims a T-Roc is!

I for one am looking toward to driving a TCR but the pricing of them, from the start, was completely wrong imo. Really interesting to hear the views of those who’ve driven both cars. I found it really difficult to chose between the R and GTI, both remarkably different cars.

Insurance wise my R was cheaper than the various gtis ive had and certainty cheaper than my S3.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 January 2020, 09:41
I can't remember who mentioned this (could have been Fred), does anyone definitely know if the otr costs are included on this ridiculous 40k luxury tax nonsense. All I can find from HMRC is list price. The list price of the TCR is less in the brochure but when you add on the OTR costs along with the options I want it takes me over the limit.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 January 2020, 09:45
Just seen this on whatcar "The list price should include on-the-road costs such as delivery and numberplates but excludes the first year’s road tax and initial registration fee." 👍
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Zermatt on 05 January 2020, 09:53
Perhaps already said on here but I see the GTI/ R split for VW being similar to the Carrera/GT/Turbo split for Porsche.

GTI = Carrera
GTI Performance= Carrera S
GTI Clubsport 40/ TCR  =Carrera GTS
GTI Clubsport S=GT3
R =Turbo
R- Performance =Turbo S

I doubt we will see a Mk 8 TCR ... as the VW TCR Race program has ended

Someone made exactly the same comparison on Twitter this week.

Personally I agree that there won’t be a TCR in name but they’ll be two trim levelS of gti. Also, the Edition 45 will appear fairly early in the Mk8 lifecycle which will be interesting. Due 2021?

Yep that was my Twitter post ....I think we will see the Clubsport name back.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 05 January 2020, 10:00
Perhaps already said on here but I see the GTI/ R split for VW being similar to the Carrera/GT/Turbo split for Porsche.

GTI = Carrera
GTI Performance= Carrera S
GTI Clubsport 40/ TCR  =Carrera GTS
GTI Clubsport S=GT3
R =Turbo
R- Performance =Turbo S

I doubt we will see a Mk 8 TCR ... as the VW TCR Race program has ended

Someone made exactly the same comparison on Twitter this week.

Personally I agree that there won’t be a TCR in name but they’ll be two trim levelS of gti. Also, the Edition 45 will appear fairly early in the Mk8 lifecycle which will be interesting. Due 2021?

Yep that was my Twitter post ....I think we will see the Clubsport name back.

Small world!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 January 2020, 10:01
Maybe the 50th anniversary will be the last new GTI that still involves the use of petrol as a fuel?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 05 January 2020, 10:11
Maybe the 50th anniversary will be the last new GTI that still involves the use of petrol as a fuel?

Maybe the 50th anniversary will be the last Golf Gti.  :cry:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 05 January 2020, 10:50
Just seen this on whatcar "The list price should include on-the-road costs such as delivery and numberplates but excludes the first year’s road tax and initial registration fee." 👍
That’s how I understood RFL was calculated for the £40k list price tax.
Cars are mad mad money now.

Maybe the 50th anniversary will be the last new GTI that still involves the use of petrol as a fuel?

Maybe the 50th anniversary will be the last Golf Gti.  :cry:

Unless VW change their policy due to whatever international regulations they have to cow to in a few years (though I suspect the big powers want an electric revolution as much to take political influence away from the Middle East as much as they want to slow global warming) it would be nice if the 50th Anni was the last GTI and that VW were allowed to do something really special and enduringly desirable. Politics might dictate the final answer to that.
Mind you, I kind of hope electric cars will have had enough development by then to be genuinely competitive cars rather than just company car tax savers. At least an ID.3 isn’t as fugly as a Mk8.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 January 2020, 12:57
Deal done, let the wait commence. 👍
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 05 January 2020, 13:12
Deal done, let the wait commence. 👍

Awesome!

Grey with screen and sounds? DCC?
How long a build time are they quoting? I’m surprised they’re still taking factory orders.
I’m surprised they’re building a Mk8 at all to be honest with looks like that but that’s a whole other story....
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 January 2020, 13:50
Deal done, let the wait commence. 👍

Much of a discount Chris? How king's the wait?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 January 2020, 14:07
Deal done, let the wait commence. 👍

Awesome!

Grey with screen and sounds? DCC?
How long a build time are they quoting? I’m surprised they’re still taking factory orders.
I’m surprised they’re building a Mk8 at all to be honest with looks like that but that’s a whole other story....
Grey, climate screen, Dynaudio and DCC. They are quoting 24 weeks but I'm sure I read somewhere that the order books close in march. Hoping it's sooner.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 January 2020, 14:09
Deal done, let the wait commence. 👍

Much of a discount Chris? How king's the wait?
enough of a discount to make it worthwhile Matt, you know me don't really like spending money haha. Quoting 24 weeks but hopefully less.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 05 January 2020, 14:52
Deal done, let the wait commence. 👍

Great! Clearly the test drive didn't put you off but anything to note?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 05 January 2020, 14:54
The TCR is one of those cars that are nigh on impossible to justify on paper without really going into fine details.
There has been no official mention of it but to me it feels like a lot of the Clubsport and CSS suspension development has gone into the TCR.
I wouldn’t mind betting the springs are almost identical to the Ed40 CS having gone from one straight into the other (fractionally harder than regular GTI but still fine sans DCC)
In all ‘sensible’ comparisons the R would win over the TCR, no question of that. The R has the traction, ride quality and maturity along with better drag race launch control times. And I’m sure that point to point flat out the R would arrive home quickest.
Unlike the Ed40 I’m sure the R will hold value better than a TCR too.
But...
The TCR has some aces up its sleeve. It feels like a hot hatch, it sounds like a hot hatch, it looks like a hot hatch and it drives like an incredibly accomplished hot hatch. It’s a bit of an odd car to be blunt but it’s huge fun on the right roads driving solo.
Very unlikely anyone would be able to plumb its depths on a test drive, and on mine I was a little disappointed coming straight from the Ed40. But there was something nagging at me and certain reviewers who were clued up heaped praise on it. Once I had the keys in my grasp for a few days I gradually realised why.
It’s a GTI for people that want a bit more than a standard GTI PP but don’t really want an R. Damned if I would ever recommend someone to buy one over an R but I don’t think many would regret it if they did.

How are you getting on with the DSG?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 January 2020, 15:44
Deal done, let the wait commence. 👍

Great! Clearly the test drive didn't put you off but anything to note?
one or two things of note like how much quicker it is and how easy it does it. In conjunction with the dsg box it's a fantastic car. The other thing I noticed was the seats, they seem/feel much nicer than my current GTi pp ones.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 05 January 2020, 15:58


How are you getting on with the DSG?

Some days I think it’s fantastic and other days it pisses me off - a bit like the manual box did  :grin:

To get the best out of it in D it requires quite positive inputs.
I don’t use the paddles much after initially using them a fair bit. It can’t block change using paddles which is irritating and with a bit of experience D can be just as effective by signalling your intention with judicious use of the brake pedal or throttle, such as a firm prod of the brake will drop it down a couple gears ready to take a bend without having to keep your foot on the brake to gradually slow down through sequential gears. The same manoeuvre in a manual could be done almost without touching the brakes depending on initial speed or a prod of the brake followed by a block change but all it requires is a bit of relearning which you’ll soon find natural after years in an auto Audi.

There also seems to be two completely different engine maps in one without touching settings, one which is quite economical but lacks character by using a trailing (gentle) throttle all the way through the arc and one that drinks fuel but goes like a bat out of hell even in D without completely depressing the pedal to the kick down switch, merely on ankle angle as opposed to how hard the pedal is pressed (plus engine and exhaust noise are different between the two apparent maps). Or maybe it’s my imagination. It could be a WLTP thing. Or my imagination  :grin:

I really warmed to the DSG with a bit of familiarity but it always lacks something to me. A manual gearbox is far far from perfect but can be used with a bit of finesse in normal driving where the DSG always feels a bit digital and makes the engine feel more like an electric motor at times.

So roll on fast, good handling electric cars with no bloody annoying gearbox at all!  :laugh:

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 05 January 2020, 16:00
Deal done, let the wait commence. 👍

Great! Clearly the test drive didn't put you off but anything to note?
one or two things of note like how much quicker it is and how easy it does it. In conjunction with the dsg box it's a fantastic car. The other thing I noticed was the seats, they seem/feel much nicer than my current GTi pp ones.

The seats definitely have a much nicer cloth than either the regular tartan GTI or Ed40 seats.
The fluffy bolsters are very grippy too.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Andy198 on 05 January 2020, 16:02
@mcmaddy - really pleased for you; that’s a cracking spec. Hope the wait goes TCR quick for you.  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 January 2020, 16:25
@mcmaddy - really pleased for you; that’s a cracking spec. Hope the wait goes TCR quick for you.  :grin: :grin:
cheers and hopefully it's nearer 12 than 24 weeks  :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 January 2020, 16:28
Deal done, let the wait commence. 👍

Great! Clearly the test drive didn't put you off but anything to note?
one or two things of note like how much quicker it is and how easy it does it. In conjunction with the dsg box it's a fantastic car. The other thing I noticed was the seats, they seem/feel much nicer than my current GTi pp ones.

The seats definitely have a much nicer cloth than either the regular tartan GTI or Ed40 seats.
The fluffy bolsters are very grippy too.
the alcantara or micro fibre whatever they are sides are like the R seats. The tartan in the GTi is hard in texture by comparison.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 05 January 2020, 16:37
Deal done, let the wait commence. 👍

Great! Clearly the test drive didn't put you off but anything to note?
one or two things of note like how much quicker it is and how easy it does it. In conjunction with the dsg box it's a fantastic car. The other thing I noticed was the seats, they seem/feel much nicer than my current GTi pp ones.

I noticed the seats too, the materials are much plusher and feel more upmarket, one of the standout features of the TCR to me :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 05 January 2020, 16:40
Deal done, let the wait commence. 👍

Great! Clearly the test drive didn't put you off but anything to note?
one or two things of note like how much quicker it is and how easy it does it. In conjunction with the dsg box it's a fantastic car. The other thing I noticed was the seats, they seem/feel much nicer than my current GTi pp ones.

The seats definitely have a much nicer cloth than either the regular tartan GTI or Ed40 seats.
The fluffy bolsters are very grippy too.
the alcantara or micro fibre whatever they are sides are like the R seats. The tartan in the GTi is hard in texture by comparison.

I’d had the furry bolsters in the R and Ed40 but the latter has a similar cloth on the base and backrest in a different pattern to the regular GTI tartan, a more canvas feeling cloth.
The TCR has more of a wool blend feel similar to the R. Though it’s probably all nylon.

I’m not an expert on types of cloth btw  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 05 January 2020, 16:45

How are you getting on with the DSG?

Some days I think it’s fantastic and other days it pisses me off - a bit like the manual box did  :grin:

To get the best out of it in D it requires quite positive inputs.
I don’t use the paddles much after initially using them a fair bit. It can’t block change using paddles which is irritating and with a bit of experience D can be just as effective by signalling your intention with judicious use of the brake pedal or throttle, such as a firm prod of the brake will drop it down a couple gears ready to take a bend without having to keep your foot on the brake to gradually slow down through sequential gears. The same manoeuvre in a manual could be done almost without touching the brakes depending on initial speed or a prod of the brake followed by a block change but all it requires is a bit of relearning which you’ll soon find natural after years in an auto Audi.

There also seems to be two completely different engine maps in one without touching settings, one which is quite economical but lacks character by using a trailing (gentle) throttle all the way through the arc and one that drinks fuel but goes like a bat out of hell even in D without completely depressing the pedal to the kick down switch, merely on ankle angle as opposed to how hard the pedal is pressed (plus engine and exhaust noise are different between the two apparent maps). Or maybe it’s my imagination. It could be a WLTP thing. Or my imagination  :grin:

I really warmed to the DSG with a bit of familiarity but it always lacks something to me. A manual gearbox is far far from perfect but can be used with a bit of finesse in normal driving where the DSG always feels a bit digital and makes the engine feel more like an electric motor at times.

So roll on fast, good handling electric cars with no bloody annoying gearbox at all!  :laugh:

Thanks for that, I'm still a bit on the fence with the TCR, very tempted, but I'm really enjoying the manual still and I don't need to change.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 05 January 2020, 17:21
@mcmaddy. Congratulations!! Looking forward to the photos! It’s gone too quiet on here for my nosey tastes.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 January 2020, 20:03
@mcmaddy. Congratulations!! Looking forward to the photos! It’s gone too quiet on here for my nosey tastes.
I was tempted by white but I think the grey will look even better.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 05 January 2020, 20:09
@mcmaddy. Congratulations!! Looking forward to the photos! It’s gone too quiet on here for my nosey tastes.
I was tempted by white but I think the grey will look even better.

If I was factory ordering a TCR I’d definitely go with the grey. I’ve seen both a white and a grey tcr in the flesh and they both looked good but pure grey is a signature colour.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 January 2020, 21:02
I've currently got a performance panel filter along with Racingline turbo elbow and house on my GTi. Might be a stupid question but is any point moving these over to the TCR?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 05 January 2020, 21:09
I've currently got a performance panel filter along with Racingline turbo elbow and house on my GTi. Might be a stupid question but is any point moving these over to the TCR?

Why not? Makes a wee bit of a diference but it's definitely a bit of underbonnet candy. I'll be keeping mine if I swap to a TCR :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 January 2020, 22:01
I've currently got a performance panel filter along with Racingline turbo elbow and house on my GTi. Might be a stupid question but is any point moving these over to the TCR?

Why not? Makes a wee bit of a diference but it's definitely a bit of underbonnet candy. I'll be keeping mine if I swap to a TCR :smiley:
👍👍
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 05 January 2020, 23:27
I'm still a bit on the fence with the TCR, very tempted, but I'm really enjoying the manual still and I don't need to change.

To be fair, it would be a hell of a lot of money to swap cars and yours is in fantastic condition and still hits the spot with you.
With a few additions you could have some of the best parts of the TCR or Ed40 without spending extortionate amounts.
A set of Belvederes maybe, and/or a TCR or PP Golf R roof spoiler, possibly some tailpipe sleeves to make the pipes look bigger...
Even a low torque remap won’t break the bank or upset the insurers too much.
The wheels would always have resale value so overall ownership cost isn’t huge on them and other inexpensive mods have enjoyment value.

I highly doubt you’d regret buying a TCR if you went that way but the actual hurdle of buying it in the first place is a massive one when you look at the £££ involved. You’d have to keep it a fair while to justify the spend but the parts it has over and above yours are quite significant if you add them all together.
These cars are just getting so expensive now.

It’s gone too quiet on here for my nosey tastes.
Quiet? There’ll be tumblweed in here once the mk8 GTI is out  :grin:

I was tempted by white but I think the grey will look even better.
Definitely grey if you have the choice.
I love the white but would have much preferred grey :afro:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 January 2020, 06:28
Probably no better time to purchase a GTi, R or TCR with 0% finance on 👍
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: turnipandchips on 06 January 2020, 12:15
Hi new to the forum and have been following this thread with interest (Forgot I had actually registered to be able to post).

I have been debating getting either a new or ex demo TCR. (A manual edition 40 is also an alternative option).
On the TCR looking for a spec with DCC, sunroof, Dynaudio, 19" wheels and the heated screen. Well if im going over the 40k threshold with only a couple of options I might as well go for it.
I put together a spec on the configurator coming out at around 42k, I then went to drive the deal and they quoted me £36K at 4.9 interest and a 12 week leadtime on a factory order (Sounds optimistic based on the guy who ordered above)
Is anyone been getting any better deals than this?

The ex demo with similar spec at around the 30 to 31k is looking at costing £1500 more in interest on the finance (Price from my existing finance supplier), but obviously less overall payment...I figured if I up my budget any more I might as well get a new one. 

I have a 13 plate C63 mercedes to sell which suits me to sell in the spring with it needing a service now, so a factory order would fit in with my needs, but debating if I just wait and get an ex demo or stock car in March/April as was wondering what might happen with Mk7 prices with the Mk8 Gti due in March I think.
Decisions, decisions.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 January 2020, 12:50
The 0% finance is cheaper but you lose the 2k deposit contribution. Still works out cheaper though. I was shown 12 weeks for bog standard Golfs but then 24 for performance models. It'll come when it comes 👍
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 06 January 2020, 12:57
Are they still making Mk7.5's?

I'd be surprised if they were!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: dean5125 on 06 January 2020, 13:12
Are they still making Mk7.5's?

I'd be surprised if they were!

me too..... could you imagine how much would be involved changing over models in factories of that size, let alone trying to satisfy orders of the previous model at the same time!! :undecided:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 January 2020, 13:47
Yes, order books don't close until end of march apparently.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 06 January 2020, 13:53
Yes, order books don't close until end of march apparently.

Gone off the Cupra R ST?!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 06 January 2020, 15:10
I'm still a bit on the fence with the TCR, very tempted, but I'm really enjoying the manual still and I don't need to change.

To be fair, it would be a hell of a lot of money to swap cars and yours is in fantastic condition and still hits the spot with you.
With a few additions you could have some of the best parts of the TCR or Ed40 without spending extortionate amounts.
A set of Belvederes maybe, and/or a TCR or PP Golf R roof spoiler, possibly some tailpipe sleeves to make the pipes look bigger...
Even a low torque remap won’t break the bank or upset the insurers too much.
The wheels would always have resale value so overall ownership cost isn’t huge on them and other inexpensive mods have enjoyment value.

I highly doubt you’d regret buying a TCR if you went that way but the actual hurdle of buying it in the first place is a massive one when you look at the £££ involved. You’d have to keep it a fair while to justify the spend but the parts it has over and above yours are quite significant if you add them all together.
These cars are just getting so expensive now.

Thanks again for posting your thoughts Exonian, much appreciated and always very useful. I might pop to my local dealer for another look and see how I feel.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 06 January 2020, 15:43
Yes, order books don't close until end of march apparently.

So if the order books don't close until March and the lead time is the usual 4-5 months... the Mk8 production line is tooled up in the August shutdown... and nobody gets a Mk8 of any kind until December??!

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: dean5125 on 06 January 2020, 16:01
Yes, order books don't close until end of march apparently.

So if the order books don't close until March and the lead time is the usual 4-5 months... the Mk8 production line is tooled up in the August shutdown... and nobody gets a Mk8 of any kind until December??!



With the looks of the mk8 that's a good thing!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 06 January 2020, 16:47
Tell me (because my hed hurts and I can't think straight)...

The TCR differs from the GTI Performance how?

From what I can see, the PP currently has a load of extra tech (lane assist, dynamic lighting etc) but the TCR doesn't? The TCR just gets a few more horses and some different wheels/colours?

Seeing what has been said about last orders, I am just having a last minute wobble about buying something other than a Golf :D

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 January 2020, 17:15
Tell me (because my hed hurts and I can't think straight)...

The TCR differs from the GTI Performance how?

From what I can see, the PP currently has a load of extra tech (lane assist, dynamic lighting etc) but the TCR doesn't? The TCR just gets a few more horses and some different wheels/colours?

Seeing what has been said about last orders, I am just having a last minute wobble about buying something other than a Golf :D
TCR has all the extras too Fred plus uprated front brakes, nicer seats, akrapovic exhaust and 45hp more.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 January 2020, 17:17
Yes, order books don't close until end of march apparently.

Gone off the Cupra R ST?!
with 0% on the golf it just didn't make any financial sense to go with the Cupra (local dealer wouldn't budge on price either and gave terrible trade in).
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 06 January 2020, 17:33
TCR has all the extras too Fred plus uprated front brakes, nicer seats, akrapovic exhaust and 45hp more.

Akra exhaust is standard?! Oooooh....
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mistac on 06 January 2020, 18:22
Hi new to the forum and have been following this thread with interest (Forgot I had actually registered to be able to post).

I have been debating getting either a new or ex demo TCR. (A manual edition 40 is also an alternative option).
On the TCR looking for a spec with DCC, sunroof, Dynaudio, 19" wheels and the heated screen. Well if im going over the 40k threshold with only a couple of options I might as well go for it.
I put together a spec on the configurator coming out at around 42k, I then went to drive the deal and they quoted me £36K at 4.9 interest and a 12 week leadtime on a factory order (Sounds optimistic based on the guy who ordered above)
Is anyone been getting any better deals than this?

     
The ex demo with similar spec at around the 30 to 31k is looking at costing £1500 more in interest on the finance (Price from my existing finance supplier), but obviously less overall payment...I figured if I up my budget any more I might as well get a new one. 

I have a 13 plate C63 mercedes to sell which suits me to sell in the spring with it needing a service now, so a factory order would fit in with my needs, but debating if I just wait and get an ex demo or stock car in March/April as was wondering what might happen with Mk7 prices with the Mk8 Gti due in March I think.
Decisions, decisions.

I have a GTI on order through DTD with a March delivery date- started off on 4.9% PCP but dealer has agreed to swap to 0% scheme - as mentioned you lose the 2k deposit but my dealer held the DTD price (as expected) and if I stick with original planned total deposit (I may not now though with 0% on offer!) I am due to save approx. £35 per month. The other great thing with 0% is I now don't need to consider paying off immediately and replacing with low rate bank loan. Cant your dealer offer you 0% on a TCR once the DTD side is finalised?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 January 2020, 18:29
TCR has all the extras too Fred plus uprated front brakes, nicer seats, akrapovic exhaust and 45hp more.

Akra exhaust is standard?! Oooooh....
very first ones didn't Fred but all new ones do 👍
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: turnipandchips on 06 January 2020, 19:46
Hi new to the forum and have been following this thread with interest (Forgot I had actually registered to be able to post).

I have been debating getting either a new or ex demo TCR. (A manual edition 40 is also an alternative option).
On the TCR looking for a spec with DCC, sunroof, Dynaudio, 19" wheels and the heated screen. Well if im going over the 40k threshold with only a couple of options I might as well go for it.
I put together a spec on the configurator coming out at around 42k, I then went to drive the deal and they quoted me £36K at 4.9 interest and a 12 week leadtime on a factory order (Sounds optimistic based on the guy who ordered above)
Is anyone been getting any better deals than this?

     
The ex demo with similar spec at around the 30 to 31k is looking at costing £1500 more in interest on the finance (Price from my existing finance supplier), but obviously less overall payment...I figured if I up my budget any more I might as well get a new one. 

I have a 13 plate C63 mercedes to sell which suits me to sell in the spring with it needing a service now, so a factory order would fit in with my needs, but debating if I just wait and get an ex demo or stock car in March/April as was wondering what might happen with Mk7 prices with the Mk8 Gti due in March I think.
Decisions, decisions.

I have a GTI on order through DTD with a March delivery date- started off on 4.9% PCP but dealer has agreed to swap to 0% scheme - as mentioned you lose the 2k deposit but my dealer held the DTD price (as expected) and if I stick with original planned total deposit (I may not now though with 0% on offer!) I am due to save approx. £35 per month. The other great thing with 0% is I now don't need to consider paying off immediately and replacing with low rate bank loan. Cant your dealer offer you 0% on a TCR once the DTD side is finalised?

Cheers mistac, I'll look into it.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 15 January 2020, 13:49
Nice late 2019 review https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/motoring/road-test-of-the-year-2019-volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr/ (https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/motoring/road-test-of-the-year-2019-volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr/)

Now more at one with the TCR and 'just driving it' this article resonates with my experience to date.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 15 January 2020, 18:28
Quite a nice little article that. Doesn’t go into massive detail but says enough about the car to sum it up very well from the perspective of a GTI sceptic.

I’d planned to go back to a 4wd hatch along the lines of a mk8 R or M135i once the Leonardo DiCaprio style (versatile pretty boy) Clubsport had done its time with me. Due to a change from a short, mostly outskirts of the city, commute to a much longer nighttime rural one I was always reluctant to mess up the ultra low mileage immaculate much loved Edition 40 with salt spray, mud proliferation and stone chips.

The TCR swayed me away from the Clubsport due to having little and not so little upgrades over and above my Ed40 which made it a very slightly better car for its role, not least of all the truly excellent adaptive LED lights. The TCR is a very business like GTI, the sort of car the enthusiast owner of a standard GTI would build using parts bin OEM+ and aftermarket upgrades were it not a production model.

So far during a very very wet autumn and early winter it hasn’t once felt lacking in grip or traction, plus the handling is truly inspiring at times.

If cars were like film characters a lady was going out on a date with then the Golf R would be James Bond. Handsome, suave, charismatic know it all who was also 11/10 when they went back to the hotel room.

The TCR would be Han Solo, that little bit rougher round the edges.
Ask your wives who they’d prefer!  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 15 January 2020, 21:14
Quite a nice little article that. Doesn’t go into massive detail but says enough about the car to sum it up very well from the perspective of a GTI sceptic.

I’d planned to go back to a 4wd hatch along the lines of a mk8 R or M135i once the Leonardo DiCaprio style (versatile pretty boy) Clubsport had done its time with me. Due to a change from a short, mostly outskirts of the city, commute to a much longer nighttime rural one I was always reluctant to mess up the ultra low mileage immaculate much loved Edition 40 with salt spray, mud proliferation and stone chips.

The TCR swayed me away from the Clubsport due to having little and not so little upgrades over and above my Ed40 which made it a very slightly better car for its role, not least of all the truly excellent adaptive LED lights. The TCR is a very business like GTI, the sort of car the enthusiast owner of a standard GTI would build using parts bin OEM+ and aftermarket upgrades were it not a production model.

So far during a very very wet autumn and early winter it hasn’t once felt lacking in grip or traction, plus the handling is truly inspiring at times.

If cars were like film characters a lady was going out on a date with then the Golf R would be James Bond. Handsome, suave, charismatic know it all who was also 11/10 when they went back to the hotel room.

The TCR would be Han Solo, that little bit rougher round the edges.
Ask your wives who they’d prefer!  :laugh:

Nice, along with that review (cheers Hertsman :smiley:) I'm getting really keen now on a TCR. Only thing is 3 door cars are few and far between with most being higher mileage than I want to go for. I really didn't want a 5 door but am rapidly concluding it to be pretty much the only option. There's just one 3 door worth considering, in grey, but it is pretty basic on 18s and as nice as they are, I rather fancy 19s and might regret it. 5 door options include an Oryx with Reifnitz, sunroof, climate screen and Dynaudio but 4k+ miles, a TR with Reifnitz on 3k miles or a TR on delivery miles, 69 plate and Akrapovic but otherwise standard for similar money.

This may seem easy for many of you but I've never really been in this position before, normally I see a car and buy it! Any wise and sensible words welcomed :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 15 January 2020, 21:35
Quite a nice little article that. Doesn’t go into massive detail but says enough about the car to sum it up very well from the perspective of a GTI sceptic.

I’d planned to go back to a 4wd hatch along the lines of a mk8 R or M135i once the Leonardo DiCaprio style (versatile pretty boy) Clubsport had done its time with me. Due to a change from a short, mostly outskirts of the city, commute to a much longer nighttime rural one I was always reluctant to mess up the ultra low mileage immaculate much loved Edition 40 with salt spray, mud proliferation and stone chips.

The TCR swayed me away from the Clubsport due to having little and not so little upgrades over and above my Ed40 which made it a very slightly better car for its role, not least of all the truly excellent adaptive LED lights. The TCR is a very business like GTI, the sort of car the enthusiast owner of a standard GTI would build using parts bin OEM+ and aftermarket upgrades were it not a production model.

So far during a very very wet autumn and early winter it hasn’t once felt lacking in grip or traction, plus the handling is truly inspiring at times.

If cars were like film characters a lady was going out on a date with then the Golf R would be James Bond. Handsome, suave, charismatic know it all who was also 11/10 when they went back to the hotel room.

The TCR would be Han Solo, that little bit rougher round the edges.
Ask your wives who they’d prefer!  :laugh:

Nice, along with that review (cheers Hertsman :smiley:) I'm getting really keen now on a TCR. Only thing is 3 door cars are few and far between with most being higher mileage than I want to go for. I really didn't want a 5 door but am rapidly concluding it to be pretty much the only option. There's just one 3 door worth considering, in grey, but it is pretty basic on 18s and as nice as they are, I rather fancy 19s and might regret it. 5 door options include an Oryx with Reifnitz, sunroof, climate screen and Dynaudio but 4k+ miles, a TR with Reifnitz on 3k miles or a TR on delivery miles, 69 plate and Akrapovic but otherwise standard for similar money.

This may seem easy for many of you but I've never really been in this position before, normally I see a car and buy it! Any wise and sensible words welcomed :smiley:

I see from your other post that you plan on keeping long term. In which case, I’d suggest waiting for the car you want- a 3 door. They may be rare but it’ll be worth the wait if 10 years down the line you can say you have the very last of the 3 door GTIs!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: jv on 15 January 2020, 21:58
You can swap the wheels, you can't correct the number of doors  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: turnipandchips on 15 January 2020, 23:03
I have watched the market for a while and recently did a deal and collect mine at the weekend.
Must have for me where DCC, dynaudio and the 19" wheels, I like a sunroof although not fitting with the race car image I like to open it in the winter with heated seats and hear the exhaust note.
I looked at ex demos for 30, 31k but if buying on finance you can get a brand new one on 0% finance, plus the discounts it works out much the same....must be unregistered otherwise its 4.9% interest. There are still a few brand new from stock cars out there.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 16 January 2020, 07:28
This may seem easy for many of you but I've never really been in this position before, normally I see a car and buy it! Any wise and sensible words welcomed :smiley:
:undecided:

Hang on for the right three door.  They are very few and far between but the childish pleasure I take from driving something that's rarer than a Huracán on UK roads is immense  :wink:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 16 January 2020, 09:28
Quite a nice little article that. Doesn’t go into massive detail but says enough about the car to sum it up very well from the perspective of a GTI sceptic.

I’d planned to go back to a 4wd hatch along the lines of a mk8 R or M135i once the Leonardo DiCaprio style (versatile pretty boy) Clubsport had done its time with me. Due to a change from a short, mostly outskirts of the city, commute to a much longer nighttime rural one I was always reluctant to mess up the ultra low mileage immaculate much loved Edition 40 with salt spray, mud proliferation and stone chips.

The TCR swayed me away from the Clubsport due to having little and not so little upgrades over and above my Ed40 which made it a very slightly better car for its role, not least of all the truly excellent adaptive LED lights. The TCR is a very business like GTI, the sort of car the enthusiast owner of a standard GTI would build using parts bin OEM+ and aftermarket upgrades were it not a production model.

So far during a very very wet autumn and early winter it hasn’t once felt lacking in grip or traction, plus the handling is truly inspiring at times.

If cars were like film characters a lady was going out on a date with then the Golf R would be James Bond. Handsome, suave, charismatic know it all who was also 11/10 when they went back to the hotel room.

The TCR would be Han Solo, that little bit rougher round the edges.
Ask your wives who they’d prefer!  :laugh:

You see plenty of reviews that read out the same stats etc, which we all very familiar with and though obviously subjective to that reviewer its nice to see the review focus on the experience, and on that note it did resonate with my own.

Its been a mild yet mucky winter, with wet and damp roads on most days, and the expected trade off from switching from the R in terms of traction has not really materialised, I am driving the TCR in the exact way drove the R and have only briefly ever seen the traction light flashing at me - My starts are brisk, I push myself into moving traffic from junctions spiritedly but never floor it (which is where suspect the laws of traction would have it scrabbling)

So, traction has pleasantly surprised me and its just fun to drive, there is a nice agility to the experience that sure the GTI PP also gave over the R

Carried a lot of family around over Christmas, mainly in Miss Daisy mode (comfort) and like all MK 7 it does the daily use so well.

The MK 7 series performance might not have the raw performance of some of the hatches lauded out there, but none can do the daily and performance as well - Really is 2 cars in 1

Nice article and tribute by PistonHeads on the R which really translates to the whole MK 7 series Performance Range

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-features/ph-carbituary---volkswagen-golf-r--mk7-/41620 (https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-features/ph-carbituary---volkswagen-golf-r--mk7-/41620)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 16 January 2020, 15:45
I see from your other post that you plan on keeping long term. In which case, I’d suggest waiting for the car you want- a 3 door. They may be rare but it’ll be worth the wait if 10 years down the line you can say you have the very last of the 3 door GTIs!

Very true, I'm just not sure there'll be many more good 3 doors coming on the market.

You can swap the wheels, you can't correct the number of doors  :smiley:

Now those are very wise words :smiley:

I have watched the market for a while and recently did a deal and collect mine at the weekend.
Must have for me where DCC, dynaudio and the 19" wheels, I like a sunroof although not fitting with the race car image I like to open it in the winter with heated seats and hear the exhaust note.
I looked at ex demos for 30, 31k but if buying on finance you can get a brand new one on 0% finance, plus the discounts it works out much the same....must be unregistered otherwise its 4.9% interest. There are still a few brand new from stock cars out there.

I'm a cash buyer and £30k was a bit more than I was comfortable with, I'm stretching it a bit but there's a limit! Great point about the sunroof though.

Hang on for the right three door.  They are very few and far between but the childish pleasure I take from driving something that's rarer than a Huracán on UK roads is immense  :wink:

Glad to hear you're enjoying it!

Very useful and wise advice from all, thanks :smiley:. I don't want to leave it too long as the 3 door cars will be at their first birthdays before we know it and they are so, so rare, I just can't see many more coming up and the low mileage 5 doors will be getting few and far between too :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 16 January 2020, 15:58

You can swap the wheels, you can't correct the number of doors  :smiley:

You've never had a tig welder have you? I once had a 205 van that started life as a 5 door hatch... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 16 January 2020, 16:13
I see from your other post that you plan on keeping long term. In which case, I’d suggest waiting for the car you want- a 3 door. They may be rare but it’ll be worth the wait if 10 years down the line you can say you have the very last of the 3 door GTIs!

Very true, I'm just not sure there'll be many more good 3 doors coming on the market.

You can swap the wheels, you can't correct the number of doors  :smiley:

Now those are very wise words :smiley:

I have watched the market for a while and recently did a deal and collect mine at the weekend.
Must have for me where DCC, dynaudio and the 19" wheels, I like a sunroof although not fitting with the race car image I like to open it in the winter with heated seats and hear the exhaust note.
I looked at ex demos for 30, 31k but if buying on finance you can get a brand new one on 0% finance, plus the discounts it works out much the same....must be unregistered otherwise its 4.9% interest. There are still a few brand new from stock cars out there.

I'm a cash buyer and £30k was a bit more than I was comfortable with, I'm stretching it a bit but there's a limit! Great point about the sunroof though.

Hang on for the right three door.  They are very few and far between but the childish pleasure I take from driving something that's rarer than a Huracán on UK roads is immense  :wink:

Glad to hear you're enjoying it!

Very useful and wise advice from all, thanks :smiley:. I don't want to leave it too long as the 3 door cars will be at their first birthdays before we know it and they are so, so rare, I just can't see many more coming up and the low mileage 5 doors will be getting few and far between too :rolleyes:

Is the red 3dr on Prets with 5k on too much mileage? Surely won't matter if you are keeping for 10 years? It's been there a while and now down to £27,999 so imagine more room for a haggle. Looks great.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201910163381177?colour=Red&make=VOLKSWAGEN&aggregatedTrim=GTI%20TCR&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=s37bh&radius=1500&model=GOLF&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 16 January 2020, 16:14
Passed a '69 plate on the M1 south today near Wakefield. Pure Grey with the Akra. Looked nice but was a bit dirty so wasn't that obvious as I came up behind it. He was cruising so didn't fancy a play.  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: dean5125 on 16 January 2020, 16:20
Passed a '69 plate on the M1 south today near Wakefield. Pure Grey with the Akra. Looked nice but was a bit dirty so wasn't that obvious as I came up behind it. He was cruising so didn't fancy a play.  :smiley:

I can't believe I still haven't seen one in the wild.....

I know they are subtle but I can't have a conversation with my other half while driving without stopping her to point out some car or another so I'd like to think I wouldn't miss one!! :grin: (yes, it drives her crazy!!)   
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Post by: clubsport on 16 January 2020, 16:22
The red one looks nice Watts, ;)

Have you driven one yet?

I think the first thing is deciding if the Dsg box is for you, before you get creative with the man maths. :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 16 January 2020, 16:35
Is the red 3dr on Prets with 5k on too much mileage? Surely won't matter if you are keeping for 10 years? It's been there a while and now down to £27,999 so imagine more room for a haggle. Looks great.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201910163381177?colour=Red&make=VOLKSWAGEN&aggregatedTrim=GTI%20TCR&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=s37bh&radius=1500&model=GOLF&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1

Thanks, yes I keep looking at that one and it is a good price but something in the back of my mind is putting me off. Not sure what. Probably a combination of things. Less miles would be better, the tyres (Cup 2s not exactly all year suitable), missing TCR logos, non-franchised dealer (although someone on here did give them the thumbs up in fairness), my preference for Reifnitz. I'll have another look though.

The red one looks nice Watts, ;)

Have you driven one yet?

I think the first thing is deciding if the Dsg box is for you, before you get creative with the man maths. :)

Not driven one but at some point I will have to go DSG, I'm not against it, I like autos. Already been very busy with the man maths and am convinced the sums work. Having said that household financial harmony is what really counts and that has been reached :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 17 January 2020, 09:01
Passed a '69 plate on the M1 south today near Wakefield. Pure Grey with the Akra. Looked nice but was a bit dirty so wasn't that obvious as I came up behind it. He was cruising so didn't fancy a play.  :smiley:

I can't believe I still haven't seen one in the wild.....

I know they are subtle but I can't have a conversation with my other half while driving without stopping her to point out some car or another so I'd like to think I wouldn't miss one!! :grin: (yes, it drives her crazy!!)   

Been driving mine since October and not been able to give anyone else the knowing nod yet, - do notice quite regularly that get good look over from anyone in something performance orientated, including the GTI and R owners out there that I come across.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 17 January 2020, 13:32
Same here, not seen a single one on the road since they were released. Think it was said that there were only around 450 or so registered and maybe 100 sitting on the forecourt still.
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Post by: king monkey on 17 January 2020, 18:50
Saw my first one yesterday in Pure Grey.   :wink:

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Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 17 January 2020, 23:22
Hopefully taking the OH tomorrow to see a couple of TCRs... :smiley:
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Post by: Exonian on 18 January 2020, 06:31
Saw my first one yesterday in Pure Grey.   :wink:

:grin:

Hopefully taking the OH tomorrow to see a couple of TCRs... :smiley:

Good luck Watts! About time she chopped the Lupo in for something a bit bigger and it would save you selling yours!  :laugh:

Are you thinking new or ex-demo?
Being as you’re not going the finance route it’s harder to recommend new versus slightly soiled.
Getting the £2k inventive then paying off the balance could bring new ones down significantly but pre-reg’d ones are getting better and better value and will undercut the new ones still by quite a few thousand.
Some have a bit of mileage on them but at the end of the day if your using it as a daily driver then it’ll have a few 000 on the clock in no time anyway and someone has saved you the hassle of running it in! Just a decent polish required to remove the inevitable swirls.

Depends on whether you can still turn up the hallowed three door in your desired spec too. They seem very thin on the ground but at least will be earlier registered cars so well away from that heinous £40k road tax which is something I really couldn’t stomach in a mere Golf (maybe if I had a company car allowance or similar I might make an exception but I really don’t think I could love a Golf enough to pay it!)

If you’re going to compromise on a five door would you not hang fire until the mk8 GTI breaks cover (no doubt undisguised leaks will start appearing soonish to see how different it is to the GTE) to see whether it would make a better very long term car.
I do think the mk7 models will become iconic like the mk5 GTI models and stay in good demand amongst enthusiasts though. I can’t see the mk8 becoming particularly desirable until the first mid-life refresh. Plain ugly or ahead of its time is a matter of opinion!
I remember back in 1992 seeing a big bumper mk2 GTI parked nose to nose with a just launched mk3 GTI and thinking that the outgoing car looked classy, timeless, integrated, hewn from solid and plain handsome versus a more futuristic but cheaply designed newcomer. I’m hoping the mk8 doesn’t leave me feeling the same way.

Unlike my Clubsport which I hardly used, I’ve been piling the miles on the TCR and can say now with confidence the 7 speed DSG has grown on me loads now that I’m familiar with the programming. I rarely move it out of D (unless I need to go backwards  :grin: ) and even in the non sporty setting it copes with 99% of situations pretty well once one gets used to throttle positioning to encourage it to react how you want it. That takes a while to get used to but once you fathom out what the TCU programmers brief was it all falls in place.
There are some things I still don’t like but there were some things I didn’t like about the manual too (but they were probably more my own human limitations).

I could write an essay on how I think the TCR compares to my 2013 GTI PP but I’ll spare everyone. There are so many areas the TCR turns the GTI up a notch yet it still feels very much like a GTI not an R.

We’ll all be keen to hear how you get on with your TCR viewings :afro: 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 18 January 2020, 06:59
Hopefully taking the OH tomorrow to see a couple of TCRs... :smiley:
Could require some careful route planning.  House of Fraser (2 hrs) > Ikea (2 hrs) > Nice lunch somewhere (1hr) > Debenhams (1 hr) > VW dealer (15 mins)  :wink: 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 18 January 2020, 11:02
Good luck Watts! About time she chopped the Lupo in for something a bit bigger and it would save you selling yours!  :laugh:

Are you thinking new or ex-demo?
Being as you’re not going the finance route it’s harder to recommend new versus slightly soiled.
Getting the £2k inventive then paying off the balance could bring new ones down significantly but pre-reg’d ones are getting better and better value and will undercut the new ones still by quite a few thousand.
Some have a bit of mileage on them but at the end of the day if your using it as a daily driver then it’ll have a few 000 on the clock in no time anyway and someone has saved you the hassle of running it in! Just a decent polish required to remove the inevitable swirls.

Depends on whether you can still turn up the hallowed three door in your desired spec too. They seem very thin on the ground but at least will be earlier registered cars so well away from that heinous £40k road tax which is something I really couldn’t stomach in a mere Golf (maybe if I had a company car allowance or similar I might make an exception but I really don’t think I could love a Golf enough to pay it!)

If you’re going to compromise on a five door would you not hang fire until the mk8 GTI breaks cover (no doubt undisguised leaks will start appearing soonish to see how different it is to the GTE) to see whether it would make a better very long term car.
I do think the mk7 models will become iconic like the mk5 GTI models and stay in good demand amongst enthusiasts though. I can’t see the mk8 becoming particularly desirable until the first mid-life refresh. Plain ugly or ahead of its time is a matter of opinion!
I remember back in 1992 seeing a big bumper mk2 GTI parked nose to nose with a just launched mk3 GTI and thinking that the outgoing car looked classy, timeless, integrated, hewn from solid and plain handsome versus a more futuristic but cheaply designed newcomer. I’m hoping the mk8 doesn’t leave me feeling the same way.

Unlike my Clubsport which I hardly used, I’ve been piling the miles on the TCR and can say now with confidence the 7 speed DSG has grown on me loads now that I’m familiar with the programming. I rarely move it out of D (unless I need to go backwards  :grin: ) and even in the non sporty setting it copes with 99% of situations pretty well once one gets used to throttle positioning to encourage it to react how you want it. That takes a while to get used to but once you fathom out what the TCU programmers brief was it all falls in place.
There are some things I still don’t like but there were some things I didn’t like about the manual too (but they were probably more my own human limitations).

I could write an essay on how I think the TCR compares to my 2013 GTI PP but I’ll spare everyone. There are so many areas the TCR turns the GTI up a notch yet it still feels very much like a GTI not an R.

We’ll all be keen to hear how you get on with your TCR viewings :afro:

Cheers! We had a very, very brief chat about the Lupo's future yesterday and it's not going anywhere! It'll have it's 17th birthday soon and has not long crossed the 50k mile threshold! The original exhaust needs replacing soon and the gear shift linkage needs tightening up, other than that it's in fine, if rather slow, fettle.

I'm definitely going down the ex-demo route, there's some bargains to be had so it makes far more sense. The one I'm hoping to see today is at 2k miles which is perfect and as you say, being a daily driver, it'll be ready for action! Waiting to see a MK8 in the flesh is on my mind and might perhaps be the sensible thing to do, the looks may not be encouraging so far but you really have to be in front of one before you can truly be sure. The buttonless interior is not ideal, I think my current car is spot on, not 100% liking the 7.5 but you have to move on, times change.

Today's visit will primarily be to see some different colours (I may have on the odd occasion given the impression that I think TR is THE best colour ever (which it is of course :laugh:)), to actively consider a 5 door and for my OH to have a sit in a TCR. She's actually quite keen (although that might be just to shut me up...) and even likes the TCR side decals (the spots)!

Could require some careful route planning.  House of Fraser (2 hrs) > Ikea (2 hrs) > Nice lunch somewhere (1hr) > Debenhams (1 hr) > VW dealer (15 mins)  :wink: 

Actually neither of us particularly like shopping so fine on that score! We'll drive straight there, have a good look, then we are going to an art gallery (if anyone is interested, it's the Watts Gallery in Compton near Guildford where the current exhibition is about the early 20th century portraitist William Orpen). Tomorrow I'm taking her to Brooklands for the January Vintage Sports Car Club meet :whistle:
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Post by: king monkey on 18 January 2020, 12:58
Went to my local VW today. Was tripping over TCRs. Great looking car in the flesh.

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Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 18 January 2020, 19:24
We had a good look over the 5 door Oryx TCR today. It was sunny which showed off the colour to good effect, quite impressed and my OH liked it too. The black trim parts and wheels looked great against the white. I prefer the Oryx to Pure Grey, so TR or Oryx seem to be the favourites. The seats and cabin materials were as nice as I remembered but not 100% liking the gloss black dash panels and the digital dash but if I get one I'm sure I'll soon get used to it.

Being a 5 door was okay actually, I suppose the only thing I noticed from the inside was just how close the B pillar was and therefore a little in my field of vision but as a positive I can see it being much easier getting in and out of the car in a tight space plus with my elderly mum being less than nimble on her feet these days, she'll get in and out easier too.

So, very positive, I shall have another look through the ads and a ponder and consider booking a test drive :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 18 January 2020, 20:22
On that basis, you could end up with a white. 5 door, Dsg, GTi for considerable additional cost.

Where did it all go wrong? :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 18 January 2020, 20:40
We had a good look over the 5 door Oryx TCR today. It was sunny which showed off the colour to good effect, quite impressed and my OH liked it too. The black trim parts and wheels looked great against the white. I prefer the Oryx to Pure Grey, so TR or Oryx seem to be the favourites. The seats and cabin materials were as nice as I remembered but not 100% liking the gloss black dash panels and the digital dash but if I get one I'm sure I'll soon get used to it.

Being a 5 door was okay actually, I suppose the only thing I noticed from the inside was just how close the B pillar was and therefore a little in my field of vision but as a positive I can see it being much easier getting in and out of the car in a tight space plus with my elderly mum being less than nimble on her feet these days, she'll get in and out easier too.

So, very positive, I shall have another look through the ads and a ponder and consider booking a test drive :smiley:

I know it’s a massive purchase. But I think you’re overthinking it. My thoughts is that the TCR is a car you buy with your heart. It probably won’t make any financial sense against your existing car or even a new GTI Performance.

But if you want to own one, you just do it! Really feel like I’ll get one next in June. There will certainly be plenty to choose from that’s for sure!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 18 January 2020, 21:23
On that basis, you could end up with a white. 5 door, Dsg, GTi for considerable additional cost.

Where did it all go wrong? :)

When you put it like that, I do feel a bit stupid, but...

We had a good look over the 5 door Oryx TCR today. It was sunny which showed off the colour to good effect, quite impressed and my OH liked it too. The black trim parts and wheels looked great against the white. I prefer the Oryx to Pure Grey, so TR or Oryx seem to be the favourites. The seats and cabin materials were as nice as I remembered but not 100% liking the gloss black dash panels and the digital dash but if I get one I'm sure I'll soon get used to it.

Being a 5 door was okay actually, I suppose the only thing I noticed from the inside was just how close the B pillar was and therefore a little in my field of vision but as a positive I can see it being much easier getting in and out of the car in a tight space plus with my elderly mum being less than nimble on her feet these days, she'll get in and out easier too.

So, very positive, I shall have another look through the ads and a ponder and consider booking a test drive :smiley:

I know it’s a massive purchase. But I think you’re overthinking it. My thoughts is that the TCR is a car you buy with your heart. It probably won’t make any financial sense against your existing car or even a new GTI Performance.

But if you want to own one, you just do it! Really feel like I’ll get one next in June. There will certainly be plenty to choose from that’s for sure!

But this ^^^. Thanks Jim, you're 100% right and well voiced, perhaps that's what I've been struggling with as there is no logical reason for changing. My man maths justification was doubtful at best :laugh: Still, my OH was sold on it, she was spot on in saying it had real presence, and I was impressed so I think I'm getting there :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 18 January 2020, 21:39

When you put it like that, I do feel a bit stupid, but...

We had a good look over the 5 door Oryx TCR today. It was sunny which showed off the colour to good effect, quite impressed and my OH liked it too. The black trim parts and wheels looked great against the white. I prefer the Oryx to Pure Grey, so TR or Oryx seem to be the favourites. The seats and cabin materials were as nice as I remembered but not 100% liking the gloss black dash panels and the digital dash but if I get one I'm sure I'll soon get used to it.

Being a 5 door was okay actually, I suppose the only thing I noticed from the inside was just how close the B pillar was and therefore a little in my field of vision but as a positive I can see it being much easier getting in and out of the car in a tight space plus with my elderly mum being less than nimble on her feet these days, she'll get in and out easier too.

So, very positive, I shall have another look through the ads and a ponder and consider booking a test drive :smiley:

I know it’s a massive purchase. But I think you’re overthinking it. My thoughts is that the TCR is a car you buy with your heart. It probably won’t make any financial sense against your existing car or even a new GTI Performance.

But if you want to own one, you just do it! Really feel like I’ll get one next in June. There will certainly be plenty to choose from that’s for sure!

But this ^^^. Thanks Jim, you're 100% right and well voiced, perhaps that's what I've been struggling with as there is no logical reason for changing. My man maths justification was doubtful at best :laugh: Still, my OH was sold on it, she was spot on in saying it had real presence, and I was impressed so I think I'm getting there :rolleyes:

Two recent scenarios that make me think that.

My boss just sold his 981 GT4. And replaced it with a brand new 600LT!

A mate just upgraded his 1199 Panigale to a V4 Speciale - £25k on a bike.

So when all said and done, a £30k 5 door hatch is probably fairly sensible   :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 18 January 2020, 22:58
Two recent scenarios that make me think that.

My boss just sold his 981 GT4. And replaced it with a brand new 600LT!

A mate just upgraded his 1199 Panigale to a V4 Speciale - £25k on a bike.

So when all said and done, a £30k 5 door hatch is probably fairly sensible   :grin:

Their pockets do sound a bit more capacious than mine :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 18 January 2020, 23:38
The red one looks nice Watts, ;)

Have you driven one yet?

I think the first thing is deciding if the Dsg box is for you, before you get creative with the man maths. :)

It’s my first owned car without a manual, but it’s a fantastic daily, love it. It’s also the fastest car I’ve owned, it can go faster than I can currently for sure.

That said, took my Corrado VR6 out today for the first time since October, despite all the faults it’s still as enjoyable as the tcr. Guess I like the old and new! The VR6 and Mk2 are no good in winter commute though, I’m not going back to the days of scraping ice from the inside of the windscreen 🤣
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Post by: Exonian on 18 January 2020, 23:53
Interesting to see your thoughts on the Oryx TCR, Watts.

I had a 3 door GTI before moving back to a series of five door mk7’s and aside from a very slight penalty in aesthetics by moving to five doors I can think of nothing but positive things in having a five door Golf.
I don’t think the 5 door looks that much worse:

(https://i.postimg.cc/W1Sfdj1K/115-DC32-E-D23-D-4519-8-F37-A30-BE490-AD1-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k26yH08F)

(https://i.postimg.cc/6Q3bRS7Q/5371-FFA1-712-B-4-AB2-909-F-E1-F3-E1-F5645-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNPGH1xf)



True, a *real* GTI should perhaps have three doors and that was my thinking when I ordered my GTI back in 2013, but the extra doors and just as importantly the shorter front doors make motoring life so much more convenient.
I do agree about the better visibility with the three door though, that was another deciding factor when I ordered mine. Eventually that was outweighed by so many other practical advantages of the five door with minimal aesthetic penalty.
Oh, and I was never as impressed with the slide tilt of the mk7 three door compared to other models I’d owned. The slide was too limited in travel on my car.

Colour is a very personal thing.
Personally I love white GTI’s!

Any trepidation about moving to the digital AID was quickly dispelled in my own experience. I’d been quite rude about it on here (nothing unusual there) before experiencing it properly but grew to really like it very quickly. 

Jim is spot on about cost and justification.
A ‘normal’ GTI Performance or an R have plenty of things you could use as justification over and above a cheaper variant.
A TCR is more of an indulgence, you buy it purely for what it is and what it offers, or you reject it for any number of reasons be they looks, lack of 4wd at the price point or whatever.

I’ll be the last person to make any recommendations as I’ve done some pretty daft things as far as buying and selling various cars are concerned. Some I have slight regret over and some absolutely no regrets.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 19 January 2020, 08:31
On that basis, you could end up with a white. 5 door, Dsg, GTi for considerable additional cost.

Where did it all go wrong? :)

When you put it like that, I do feel a bit stupid, but...


I was jesting, if slightly taken back as you have been such an advocate of the red "crew", pure 3 door, manual GTi :)

As we are posting car pics, let me help you stay on the right track?! :)

(https://i.ibb.co/gM0QxkZ/GTi-avatar.png)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 19 January 2020, 09:17
Interesting to see your thoughts on the Oryx TCR, Watts.

I had a 3 door GTI before moving back to a series of five door mk7’s and aside from a very slight penalty in aesthetics by moving to five doors I can think of nothing but positive things in having a five door Golf.
I don’t think the 5 door looks that much worse:

(https://i.postimg.cc/W1Sfdj1K/115-DC32-E-D23-D-4519-8-F37-A30-BE490-AD1-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k26yH08F)

(https://i.postimg.cc/6Q3bRS7Q/5371-FFA1-712-B-4-AB2-909-F-E1-F3-E1-F5645-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNPGH1xf)



True, a *real* GTI should perhaps have three doors and that was my thinking when I ordered my GTI back in 2013, but the extra doors and just as importantly the shorter front doors make motoring life so much more convenient.
I do agree about the better visibility with the three door though, that was another deciding factor when I ordered mine. Eventually that was outweighed by so many other practical advantages of the five door with minimal aesthetic penalty.
Oh, and I was never as impressed with the slide tilt of the mk7 three door compared to other models I’d owned. The slide was too limited in travel on my car.

Colour is a very personal thing.
Personally I love white GTI’s!

Any trepidation about moving to the digital AID was quickly dispelled in my own experience. I’d been quite rude about it on here (nothing unusual there) before experiencing it properly but grew to really like it very quickly. 

Jim is spot on about cost and justification.
A ‘normal’ GTI Performance or an R have plenty of things you could use as justification over and above a cheaper variant.
A TCR is more of an indulgence, you buy it purely for what it is and what it offers, or you reject it for any number of reasons be they looks, lack of 4wd at the price point or whatever.

I’ll be the last person to make any recommendations as I’ve done some pretty daft things as far as buying and selling various cars are concerned. Some I have slight regret over and some absolutely no regrets.

As the golf has got longer with each successive generation, it's debatable as to whether it looks better as 3 or 5 door. The mk5 gti definitely looks better with 3, I'm not so sure with the mk7.
I think also that colour and wheels make a difference. A white or red car on 19s looks better with 3drs.
I don't think I've seen an Isaac Blue car on standard wheels in 3 door- I suspect it wouldn't suit the colour or style of the car.
The other point about mk7- unlike previous generations- is that the 5dr car (from the figures I've see) is no more heavier than the 3dr. Not sure if the extra weight in previous generations made a difference to the drive, but it is another reason as to why 5dr suits the mk7
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 19 January 2020, 09:26
Some more food for thought Watts  :smiley:

(https://i.postimg.cc/CL7QpGfn/IMG-20200118-155728.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qztL8Cwp)

(https://i.postimg.cc/tCpMcS7H/IMG-20200118-155631.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WtY8F7M9)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 19 January 2020, 09:56
I was jesting, if slightly taken back as you have been such an advocate of the red "crew", pure 3 door, manual GTi :)

As we are posting car pics, let me help you stay on the right track?! :)

(https://i.ibb.co/gM0QxkZ/GTi-avatar.png)

 :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :laugh: I had to pop out to pick up some bits for tea last night and as I was returning to my car, seeing the lovely red under the forecourt lights I was thinking "what on earth am I doing?". And it really does drive great, I've no complaints bar the odd occasion when you hit that flat spot as the small turbo runs out of puff. But owning and loving your cars is like that, it doesn't always make sense and it is all about enjoying them. Obviously there are some practical constraints unless you're rich (I'm not!), but with a performance Golf it's difficult to go wrong!

Some more food for thought Watts  :smiley:

(https://i.postimg.cc/tCpMcS7H/IMG-20200118-155631.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WtY8F7M9)

Lovely :smiley:

Thanks everybody for such good advice and very helpful comments, all of them, I'm very grateful. I'm going to shut up about this now and go curl up in a ball in a corner. Buying my house was a hell of a lot easier than this!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 19 January 2020, 10:20
You’ve hit the nail on the head Watts. You can’t go wrong with any performance Golf. From what I saw yesterday the TCRs look very very nice indeed. Is it worth the premium over a PP? I’m not so sure just because it’s such a big difference. However, they are exceptionally cool. I paid a premium for my Ed35 years ago and the only thing I ever regretted was selling it. Good luck with the search!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Zermatt on 19 January 2020, 11:14
Love the 3 Door White TCR which looks a pretty rare spec as most 3 doors seem to be Grey.

From the one I saw at Frankfurt in Tornado Red, I thought the interior was better
matched  to the white and grey exterior.

I’m in a similar place trying to justify a TCR over my PP.

The positives on my 3 door; Art Velour interior, Manual , Refined on long journeys and being Isaac Blue can blend in when required to.

The positives for a TCR: More of an enthusiasts choice, rare, increased performance.

I think I need a test drive


Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 19 January 2020, 11:40
Love the 3 Door White TCR which looks a pretty rare spec as most 3 doors seem to be Grey.

From the one I saw at Frankfurt in Tornado Red, I thought the interior was better
matched  to the white and grey exterior.

I’m in a similar place trying to justify a TCR over my PP.

The positives on my 3 door; Art Velour interior, Manual , Refined on long journeys and being Isaac Blue can blend in when required to.

The positives for a TCR: More of an enthusiasts choice, rare, increased performance.

I think I need a test drive

Ah, a 3dr Isaac Blue. I thought they didn't exist! Show us a pic then.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Zermatt on 19 January 2020, 12:15
https://www.flickr.com/photos/181641601@N07/?

From when it was detailed
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 19 January 2020, 12:22
I've currently got a mk7 pp and didn't see the point in changing to another performance pack GTi even though the monthly figures would have been a lot better. I didn't want an R because they just look boring and aren't engaging (sorry R owners) so the only model left was the TCR. With the 0% finance I've got an excellent deal which just made it worth while.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Andy198 on 19 January 2020, 12:23
https://www.flickr.com/photos/181641601@N07/?

From when it was detailed

Stunning, never seen a 3-door in Isaac blue. 👍🏾
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Zermatt on 19 January 2020, 12:36
Thanks,  the only time I’ve ever walked in a car dealership for a look and had signed the paperwork an hour later was when I came across this last February.  I think it really works with the Art Velours trim.



Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 19 January 2020, 13:31
Yes, it does look stunning on the brescias. Thanks for posting, that is an unusual- and very nice- spec.
If it was mine, I wouldn’t sell it!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: turnipandchips on 21 January 2020, 15:45
I collected mine at the weekend, tornado red with sunroof, Dynaudio, 19" Wheels and ahem the hexagonal graphics.
After being slow with ordering a factory build I settled on 90% of my options on a stock car, therefore the graphics (Wouldnt have been my choice) are staying for now to see if they grow on me, but are getting a few negative jokey comments.

I took advantage of the 0% finance on new and a 4k discount which swung it for me....Generally a pleasant experience with the dealership not so impressed with the level of clean of the car on collection. It had been in the showroom for a while so dusty in places inside and grey spots on the front that come off with a nail underneath so will need a claybar next wash.

It came included with the TCR lights under the doors that came up as a cost option on the configurator...Im 200 miles in and love it so far, feels sharp to turn in and the akrapovic exhaust already sounds like its getting louder, nice smooth gearbox. the digital dash seemed a little busy to start with but getting used to that now, the car just feels so right.

The dealership said not to worry about running it in and just drive it as I please straight away, what have others been told?
Overall very happy.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 January 2020, 20:21
I collected mine at the weekend, tornado red with sunroof, Dynaudio, 19" Wheels and ahem the hexagonal graphics.
After being slow with ordering a factory build I settled on 90% of my options on a stock car, therefore the graphics (Wouldnt have been my choice) are staying for now to see if they grow on me, but are getting a few negative jokey comments.

I took advantage of the 0% finance on new and a 4k discount which swung it for me....Generally a pleasant experience with the dealership not so impressed with the level of clean of the car on collection. It had been in the showroom for a while so dusty in places inside and grey spots on the front that come off with a nail underneath so will need a claybar next wash.

It came included with the TCR lights under the doors that came up as a cost option on the configurator...Im 200 miles in and love it so far, feels sharp to turn in and the akrapovic exhaust already sounds like its getting louder, nice smooth gearbox. the digital dash seemed a little busy to start with but getting used to that now, the car just feels so right.

The dealership said not to worry about running it in and just drive it as I please straight away, what have others been told?
Overall very happy.

Sounds like a nice spec - the hexagon side decals won't be to many peoples liking and I wouldn't be able to live with them. But TR really suits the TCR. You need to get a picture up to spur Watts on a bit!  :grin:

Most cars are dealers aren't normally particularly great. I don't think most have much of clue beyond a wash and even that won't be done in a safe way.

If you claybar it, don't forget you'll then to polish and seal it as will then be unprotected paint.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 22 January 2020, 06:36
I collected mine at the weekend, tornado red with sunroof, Dynaudio, 19" Wheels and ahem the hexagonal graphics.

The dealership said not to worry about running it in and just drive it as I please straight away, what have others been told?
Overall very happy.

Congratulations on the new car. Opinions on the need to "run in" modern engines are mixed but by being reasonably gentle with it for the first 1k miles, and trying to avoid long periods at the same revs, you will allow the components to bed in properly so a short period of mechanical sympathy may well pay dividends in the long run.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Talk-torque on 22 January 2020, 06:59
I collected mine at the weekend, tornado red with sunroof, Dynaudio, 19" Wheels and ahem the hexagonal graphics.

The dealership said not to worry about running it in and just drive it as I please straight away, what have others been told?
Overall very happy.

Congratulations on the new car. Opinions on the need to "run in" modern engines are mixed but by being reasonably gentle with it for the first 1k miles, and trying to avoid long periods at the same revs, you will allow the components to bed in properly so a short period of mechanical sympathy may well pay dividends in the long run.

.........and it’s not just the engine. Brakes and tyres also benefit from a little considerate usage early in their lives.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: jv on 22 January 2020, 08:47
Is that for half of it?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: dean5125 on 22 January 2020, 08:48
Lookers Walton have a grey 69 plate TCR for £21999...

 :grin: Good luck buying it for that price!!!!  :grin:

I had a Touareg before my R and that was priced £500 cheaper than on the internet and they would not budge, just put it down to human error and did I want the car at the higher price or not?!?!? :huh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: turnipandchips on 22 January 2020, 08:57
I collected mine at the weekend, tornado red with sunroof, Dynaudio, 19" Wheels and ahem the hexagonal graphics.

The dealership said not to worry about running it in and just drive it as I please straight away, what have others been told?
Overall very happy.

Congratulations on the new car. Opinions on the need to "run in" modern engines are mixed but by being reasonably gentle with it for the first 1k miles, and trying to avoid long periods at the same revs, you will allow the components to bed in properly so a short period of mechanical sympathy may well pay dividends in the long run.

.........and it’s not just the engine. Brakes and tyres also benefit from a little considerate usage early in their lives.

Yes was pretty much my thoughts as well.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 22 January 2020, 10:00
I collected mine at the weekend, tornado red with sunroof, Dynaudio, 19" Wheels and ahem the hexagonal graphics.
After being slow with ordering a factory build I settled on 90% of my options on a stock car, therefore the graphics (Wouldnt have been my choice) are staying for now to see if they grow on me, but are getting a few negative jokey comments.

I took advantage of the 0% finance on new and a 4k discount which swung it for me....Generally a pleasant experience with the dealership not so impressed with the level of clean of the car on collection. It had been in the showroom for a while so dusty in places inside and grey spots on the front that come off with a nail underneath so will need a claybar next wash.

It came included with the TCR lights under the doors that came up as a cost option on the configurator...Im 200 miles in and love it so far, feels sharp to turn in and the akrapovic exhaust already sounds like its getting louder, nice smooth gearbox. the digital dash seemed a little busy to start with but getting used to that now, the car just feels so right.

The dealership said not to worry about running it in and just drive it as I please straight away, what have others been told?
Overall very happy.

I ran mine in for the 1000 miles, its no real hardship - I get what they say about modern engines and testing etc, but having worked in a precision engineering environment and with some uber skilled folk, the overriding message that took away is that you let metals heat, expand and cool and allow the lubricants to really work into all areas of the mechanics and basically let the mechanics bed in before you start taking anything to its limits and thats not just the engine but the whole car really - I bought a demo Bora Sport once with 3000 miles on it, a bargain, cost me more in oil and poor fuel economy over its life than saved!!

vary you speed, some town and motorway/A roads and then some tow again and keep under 3000 revs which will have you at speed limit anyway and as come to the 1000 mile mark just open it up more - my TCR is nearing 3000 miles now and is lovely and loose and responsive and the Akrapovic cracks and pops have really increased.

Its a great car, all the grunt of the R with all the agility of the GTI = Enjoy!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 22 January 2020, 10:11
It’s a car on their forecourt, seen it this morning ( my 6th trip there in 3 weeks )
So why didn’t you buy it! It must be an error.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 22 January 2020, 11:01
Lookers Walton have a grey 69 plate TCR for £21999...

Must be this one, thats some discount they offering :)

Though if can squeeze them a little more on price its still quite a good deal compared to new, new

https://www.lookers.co.uk/dealer-new-car/volkswagen/golf/2-0-tsi-290-gti-tcr-5dr-dsg/id/234278 (https://www.lookers.co.uk/dealer-new-car/volkswagen/golf/2-0-tsi-290-gti-tcr-5dr-dsg/id/234278)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 22 January 2020, 11:14
i've got 2 grey golfs already...not sure i can cope with the stress of a third

Yeah but at that price? You could sell it to Watts for £32k. You make 10k, he gets a cheap TCR, everybody’s happy!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: dean5125 on 22 January 2020, 11:34
Knowing how useless Lookers are, it’s probably a huge error

Do you think?? :grin:

the old saying if it sounds to good to be true..... a new TCR for half price! :shocked:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: ChrisTCR on 22 January 2020, 12:35
The price is £35k via that link
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 22 January 2020, 12:55
i've got 2 grey golfs already...not sure i can cope with the stress of a third

Yeah but at that price? You could sell it to Watts for £32k. You make 10k, he gets a cheap TCR, everybody’s happy!

Oi! Have a bit more respect for my wallet, it has feelings too :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 22 January 2020, 13:10
I collected mine at the weekend, tornado red with sunroof, Dynaudio, 19" Wheels and ahem the hexagonal graphics.
After being slow with ordering a factory build I settled on 90% of my options on a stock car, therefore the graphics (Wouldnt have been my choice) are staying for now to see if they grow on me, but are getting a few negative jokey comments.

I took advantage of the 0% finance on new and a 4k discount which swung it for me....Generally a pleasant experience with the dealership not so impressed with the level of clean of the car on collection. It had been in the showroom for a while so dusty in places inside and grey spots on the front that come off with a nail underneath so will need a claybar next wash.

It came included with the TCR lights under the doors that came up as a cost option on the configurator...Im 200 miles in and love it so far, feels sharp to turn in and the akrapovic exhaust already sounds like its getting louder, nice smooth gearbox. the digital dash seemed a little busy to start with but getting used to that now, the car just feels so right.

Sounds great, I'd love to see a few piccies! I was looking at a 19 plate Oryx with a similar spec but then I discovered it had been a VW press car and had been used for journo test drives including one video of it being raced around a track timed against a Megane! The killer though was it was clearly north of £40k new and I'm not prepared to pay the higher tax rate.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 22 January 2020, 13:25
Lookers Walton have a grey 69 plate TCR for £21999...

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: turnipandchips on 22 January 2020, 13:28
I collected mine at the weekend, tornado red with sunroof, Dynaudio, 19" Wheels and ahem the hexagonal graphics.
After being slow with ordering a factory build I settled on 90% of my options on a stock car, therefore the graphics (Wouldnt have been my choice) are staying for now to see if they grow on me, but are getting a few negative jokey comments.

I took advantage of the 0% finance on new and a 4k discount which swung it for me....Generally a pleasant experience with the dealership not so impressed with the level of clean of the car on collection. It had been in the showroom for a while so dusty in places inside and grey spots on the front that come off with a nail underneath so will need a claybar next wash.

It came included with the TCR lights under the doors that came up as a cost option on the configurator...Im 200 miles in and love it so far, feels sharp to turn in and the akrapovic exhaust already sounds like its getting louder, nice smooth gearbox. the digital dash seemed a little busy to start with but getting used to that now, the car just feels so right.

Sounds great, I'd love to see a few piccies! I was looking at a 19 plate Oryx with a similar spec but then I discovered it had been a VW press car and had been used for journo test drives including one video of it being raced around a track timed against a Megane! The killer though was it was clearly north of £40k new and I'm not prepared to pay the higher tax rate.

Will try to get some photos after the next clean...
Funnily enough I enquired about the same Oynx white one as well but didn't offer much on my part exchange, At the time I was debating what actually would be better an ex demo or an ex press car...But with the deal I got on new with finance it made sense to buy new.
I looked at the options available on a factory build and it didn't take much to take it over 40K so though screw it lifes too short. I bought a nearly new Mk6 GTD a few years ago and jumped into the deal abit too quick and although I loved the car it annoyed me that it was a pretty basic spec, but everyone is different.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 22 January 2020, 14:14
Will try to get some photos after the next clean...
Funnily enough I enquired about the same Oynx white one as well but didn't offer much on my part exchange, At the time I was debating what actually would be better an ex demo or an ex press car...But with the deal I got on new with finance it made sense to buy new.
I looked at the options available on a factory build and it didn't take much to take it over 40K so though screw it lifes too short. I bought a nearly new Mk6 GTD a few years ago and jumped into the deal abit too quick and although I loved the car it annoyed me that it was a pretty basic spec, but everyone is different.

Around £30k is as much as I'm prepared to go to so new is out of the question for me. I looked at an Oryx at the weekend which although presented rather badly, is a good spec and tempting so I might get a test drive soon. I do love the TR but a metallic would be rather good too and the contrasts between the black trim and the white does look good.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: RJH GTi on 22 January 2020, 18:45
There's a 19 plate one listed at Listers for £28750
With 5k miles

https://listers.co.uk/used/cars/volkswagen/golf/2.0_tsi_290_gti_tcr/301924


Rob.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 22 January 2020, 23:18
Just in case anyone is interested the Akrapovic exhaust on the TCR is rear section only as in resonator, rear mufflers and tail pipes. Downpipes stay stock. Had this confirmed by Akrapovic themselves. Not entirely sure if the exhaust is worth the extra money that VW have charged 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 23 January 2020, 08:39
Just in case anyone is interested the Akrapovic exhaust on the TCR is rear section only as in resonator, rear mufflers and tail pipes. Downpipes stay stock. Had this confirmed by Akrapovic themselves. Not entirely sure if the exhaust is worth the extra money that VW have charged 🤷‍♂️

Without looking back through the posts of the time when MY 20 and prices were announced but think the lift was £2500 which took the TCR from lying between the standard GTI PP and the standard R to the most expensive Golf Performance - However if you did option the Akrapovic on the R for £3000 the gap would increase by £500

https://m.facebook.com/akrapovic/posts/10156962523547971 (https://m.facebook.com/akrapovic/posts/10156962523547971) 

This link indicates that the TCR exhaust was a bespoke unit for the TCR

Having the Akrapovic gives you the concept car that was unveiled at Worthsee which is quite a cool thing as the concept is rarely what you you get at sale, and also the exhaust does make some nice noises, a deep steady tone on the move, and some nice cracks and pops on changes and the overrun, and thats definitely increased over the 3000 miles

This is a good example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFUtiULmtAc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFUtiULmtAc)

Not sure any exhaust is worth the retail price but it is what it is, but thats the plusses when you do send the money
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 23 January 2020, 09:11
Just in case anyone is interested the Akrapovic exhaust on the TCR is rear section only as in resonator, rear mufflers and tail pipes. Downpipes stay stock. Had this confirmed by Akrapovic themselves. Not entirely sure if the exhaust is worth the extra money that VW have charged 🤷‍♂️

https://www.awesomegti.com/parts/akrapovic-slip-on-line-titanium-exhaust-system-vw-golf-mk7-gti/

Essentially, you are paying full price and a bit more although you do get the centre res section so perhaps it's about right. This one is £1700 for the GTI.

Whichever way you look at it, the Akrapovic is a serious piece of engineering excellence and is a nice addition to the TCR. Whether you think it's worth the money is up to the buyer. There's plenty of choice of used cars without the Akra so you can pay your money and take your pick.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: dean5125 on 23 January 2020, 14:44

Many, many moons ago I worked as a Development Engineer for Magnex and Micron exhausts and we got hold of one of the Akrapovic systems as at the time they were our main competition, just for testing purposes and to dismantle and see what they were up to..... I agree the Akrapovic systems are beautifully finished but besides the material costs, the use of a CNC mandrel bender and a welding plant and the big one of paying for the name you'd be amazed at how little is actually in those systems!! each box will contain a length of perforated tube and then packed with wire wool and you'd like me to pay how much for the system?!?!? :shocked:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Zermatt on 26 January 2020, 22:50
So Today I had a 45 Minute test drive of a 5 door GTi TCR with DCC, I managed some dual carriageway a fair amount of Scottish A and B roads - car was on  19” Pirellis rather than Cups.

Here are my very subjective thoughts

What I liked

- The Performance, the car builds speed brilliantly and you can feel the albeit modest performance advantage over the Performance Pack.
- The brakes are really crisp, even allowing for the 8k difference between my own and the new TCR, for me these were the biggest performance difference.
- The Exhaust cracks on the overrun, I found the exhaust well judged other than at Motorway Speed where I did notice more of a drone.
- I liked the Pure Grey Paint, the front splitter and lip spoiler.
- I’d imagine the TCR would be a much better track car than the PP


What I didn’t like

- I couldn’t get a DCC setting  on the country roads that I really liked..and found I was switching modes a lot, why VW didn’t move it’s location for the RHD car?
- I missed the lack of Manual, although less than I did in the Std PP ( I’m not against autos the A110 is auto)
- The Matte Wing Mirrors - they just seem poorly executed particularly when in the drivers seat and don’t match the other gloss black accents.
- Seat Fabric Quality, the Colour is great but the fabric quality isn’t the best.


In summary if I didn’t have a Mk 7.5 GTi and at the current market prices I’d go for one as I think they are a great use everyday hot hatch, but I didn’t find enough of a difference to make me consider a swap just now.



Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 27 January 2020, 10:57
- I couldn’t get a DCC setting  on the country roads that I really liked..and found I was switching modes a lot, why VW didn’t move it’s location for the RHD car?

Have you never used DCC before?

You do know its dynamic and doesn't actually effect the handling of the car at all, just the feeling to the driver?

Yes the LHD/RHD thing is annoying though, as is the way the NavPro not being flipped around for RHD. I'd imagine its going to be real fun in a Mk8 where all sorts of things placed carefully for driver proximity now and effectively placed in the worst position possible.

On the buttons by the stick, I would guess you probably could swap them yourself? Pop them out and relocate? Shouldn't be too hard?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 27 January 2020, 12:59
So Today I had a 45 Minute test drive of a 5 door GTi TCR with DCC, I managed some dual carriageway a fair amount of Scottish A and B roads - car was on  19” Pirellis rather than Cups.

Here are my very subjective thoughts

What I liked

- The Performance, the car builds speed brilliantly and you can feel the albeit modest performance advantage over the Performance Pack.
- The brakes are really crisp, even allowing for the 8k difference between my own and the new TCR, for me these were the biggest performance difference.
- The Exhaust cracks on the overrun, I found the exhaust well judged other than at Motorway Speed where I did notice more of a drone.
- I liked the Pure Grey Paint, the front splitter and lip spoiler.
- I’d imagine the TCR would be a much better track car than the PP


What I didn’t like

- I couldn’t get a DCC setting  on the country roads that I really liked..and found I was switching modes a lot, why VW didn’t move it’s location for the RHD car?
- I missed the lack of Manual, although less than I did in the Std PP ( I’m not against autos the A110 is auto)
- The Matte Wing Mirrors - they just seem poorly executed particularly when in the drivers seat and don’t match the other gloss black accents.
- Seat Fabric Quality, the Colour is great but the fabric quality isn’t the best.


In summary if I didn’t have a Mk 7.5 GTi and at the current market prices I’d go for one as I think they are a great use everyday hot hatch, but I didn’t find enough of a difference to make me consider a swap just now.

Interesting comments. I'm not sure the TCR was ever £8k more than a GTI Performance. In fact, it was just £2k difference in list price when launched, prior to them making the Akra exhaust standard and increasing the price.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 27 January 2020, 14:03
So Today I had a 45 Minute test drive of a 5 door GTi TCR with DCC, I managed some dual carriageway a fair amount of Scottish A and B roads - car was on  19” Pirellis rather than Cups.

Here are my very subjective thoughts

What I liked

- The Performance, the car builds speed brilliantly and you can feel the albeit modest performance advantage over the Performance Pack.
- The brakes are really crisp, even allowing for the 8k difference between my own and the new TCR, for me these were the biggest performance difference.
- The Exhaust cracks on the overrun, I found the exhaust well judged other than at Motorway Speed where I did notice more of a drone.
- I liked the Pure Grey Paint, the front splitter and lip spoiler.
- I’d imagine the TCR would be a much better track car than the PP


What I didn’t like

- I couldn’t get a DCC setting  on the country roads that I really liked..and found I was switching modes a lot, why VW didn’t move it’s location for the RHD car?
- I missed the lack of Manual, although less than I did in the Std PP ( I’m not against autos the A110 is auto)
- The Matte Wing Mirrors - they just seem poorly executed particularly when in the drivers seat and don’t match the other gloss black accents.
- Seat Fabric Quality, the Colour is great but the fabric quality isn’t the best.


In summary if I didn’t have a Mk 7.5 GTi and at the current market prices I’d go for one as I think they are a great use everyday hot hatch, but I didn’t find enough of a difference to make me consider a swap just now.

Interesting comments. I'm not sure the TCR was ever £8k more than a GTI Performance. In fact, it was just £2k difference in list price when launched, prior to them making the Akra exhaust standard and increasing the price.

The pricing sat between the GTI PP and the R when it was released and given what you got extra in BHP, style, brakes, and even the soft aspect of exclusivity feel that pricing point was correct

However the Akrapovic was a game changer as as standard fit and not an option, adding another £2500 to that price which would for most have them stay with the standard GTi PP and the R - Of course add Akrapovic to the R and you add another £3000.

I would not have paid for the exhaust, I would be in an R now if had to, but it definitely adds to the car as a package and its nice knowledge that the car driving matches the early concept photos completely.



Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 27 January 2020, 14:27
So Today I had a 45 Minute test drive of a 5 door GTi TCR with DCC, I managed some dual carriageway a fair amount of Scottish A and B roads - car was on  19” Pirellis rather than Cups.

Here are my very subjective thoughts

What I liked

- The Performance, the car builds speed brilliantly and you can feel the albeit modest performance advantage over the Performance Pack.
- The brakes are really crisp, even allowing for the 8k difference between my own and the new TCR, for me these were the biggest performance difference.
- The Exhaust cracks on the overrun, I found the exhaust well judged other than at Motorway Speed where I did notice more of a drone.
- I liked the Pure Grey Paint, the front splitter and lip spoiler.
- I’d imagine the TCR would be a much better track car than the PP


What I didn’t like

- I couldn’t get a DCC setting  on the country roads that I really liked..and found I was switching modes a lot, why VW didn’t move it’s location for the RHD car?
- I missed the lack of Manual, although less than I did in the Std PP ( I’m not against autos the A110 is auto)
- The Matte Wing Mirrors - they just seem poorly executed particularly when in the drivers seat and don’t match the other gloss black accents.
- Seat Fabric Quality, the Colour is great but the fabric quality isn’t the best.


In summary if I didn’t have a Mk 7.5 GTi and at the current market prices I’d go for one as I think they are a great use everyday hot hatch, but I didn’t find enough of a difference to make me consider a swap just now.

Interesting, thanks for posting. I'm a little concerned about DCC, I find my PP to ride really well and I've read a review where the TCR was criticised for it's ride on a B road where the reviewer thought a regular GTI would've been better, that and there being more and higher cost items to go wrong. Would be interesting to see a review of a non-DCC car. Strange what you said about the seats as I really liked them! If I can get my arse in gear I'd like to get a test drive myself later this week.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: ar899 on 27 January 2020, 14:56
Isn't the TCR lower and stiffer than the GTI PP and would therefore surely ride a bit harsher?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 27 January 2020, 15:14
I'd be interested in someone who isn't a car reviewer, but an actual Mk7.5 GTI owner to drive it and tell you the answer.

In fact, I think our friend Exonian has that knowledge... I'm sure he'll be along soon.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Zermatt on 27 January 2020, 20:10
So Today I had a 45 Minute test drive of a 5 door GTi TCR with DCC, I managed some dual carriageway a fair amount of Scottish A and B roads - car was on  19” Pirellis rather than Cups.

Here are my very subjective thoughts

What I liked

- The Performance, the car builds speed brilliantly and you can feel the albeit modest performance advantage over the Performance Pack.
- The brakes are really crisp, even allowing for the 8k difference between my own and the new TCR, for me these were the biggest performance difference.
- The Exhaust cracks on the overrun, I found the exhaust well judged other than at Motorway Speed where I did notice more of a drone.
- I liked the Pure Grey Paint, the front splitter and lip spoiler.
- I’d imagine the TCR would be a much better track car than the PP


What I didn’t like

- I couldn’t get a DCC setting  on the country roads that I really liked..and found I was switching modes a lot, why VW didn’t move it’s location for the RHD car?
- I missed the lack of Manual, although less than I did in the Std PP ( I’m not against autos the A110 is auto)
- The Matte Wing Mirrors - they just seem poorly executed particularly when in the drivers seat and don’t match the other gloss black accents.
- Seat Fabric Quality, the Colour is great but the fabric quality isn’t the best.


In summary if I didn’t have a Mk 7.5 GTi and at the current market prices I’d go for one as I think they are a great use everyday hot hatch, but I didn’t find enough of a difference to make me consider a swap just now.

Interesting comments. I'm not sure the TCR was ever £8k more than a GTI Performance. In fact, it was just £2k difference in list price when launched, prior to them making the Akra exhaust standard and increasing the price.

Sorry Jim what I meant by 8k was the difference in mileage between my PP Brakes and the TCR brakes which are newer, I should have been clear... bottom line is the TCR brakes are much crisper.

And first VW I’ve driven with DCC which is an adaptive rather than passive suspension system. My 997 had PASM and I used to set that in normal with the throttle and gearbox in sport ... if I’d had more time I would have set this up in the individual settings.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 27 January 2020, 20:30
Ah that makes sense  :grin:

Amazing how different they do feel after a good few miles.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 27 January 2020, 20:30
- I couldn’t get a DCC setting  on the country roads that I really liked..and found I was switching modes a lot, why VW didn’t move it’s location for the RHD car?

Have you never used DCC before?

You do know its dynamic and doesn't actually effect the handling of the car at all, just the feeling to the driver?
err yes it does Fred. In comfort the suspension is softer and you feel the body roll, in sport the suspension is stiffer with less body roll than normal mode. Not sure what you mean by its dynamic and doesn't affect the ride of the car?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Zermatt on 27 January 2020, 20:46

Interesting, thanks for posting. I'm a little concerned about DCC, I find my PP to ride really well and I've read a review where the TCR was criticised for it's ride on a B road where the reviewer thought a regular GTI would've been better, that and there being more and higher cost items to go wrong. Would be interesting to see a review of a non-DCC car. Strange what you said about the seats as I really liked them! If I can get my arse in gear I'd like to get a test drive myself later this week.

It’s a really subjective thing on the seats... I thought the material didn’t feel as high quality as Art Velour. Door cards were nice though.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 27 January 2020, 21:05
err yes it does Fred. In comfort the suspension is softer and you feel the body roll, in sport the suspension is stiffer with less body roll than normal mode. Not sure what you mean by its dynamic and doesn't affect the ride of the car?
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It doesn't actually effect the performance of the car because its the dynamic - you just set the initial preload (or something)... which is why when Top Gear thrashed one with the Stig, the lap times were identical.

If it was a simple overall firmness, the softer ride would have resulted in different performance....
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 27 January 2020, 21:33
It was left in comfort suspension mode so it rode the curbs better, same as the clubsport s ring record car. It does change the driving dynamics of the car though but just because it has a sport mode doesn't make it faster, so from that aspect you're right.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 28 January 2020, 10:13
Isn't the TCR lower and stiffer than the GTI PP and would therefore surely ride a bit harsher?

Having driven a GTD with DCC for 3 years, then an R on DCC for 3 years, can confirm my present TCR is definitely no firmer than some reports seemed to indicate (quite a few reports, what car being one, that said ride was really compliant and good) - my understanding is that the TCR is a further 5 mm lower than GTI PP and the DCC has some software tweaks unique to the TCR (Its the same DCC tech as all the rest)

But forget all of that, the experience is that the TCR rides without any crashing at all in all of the modes and personally find comfort a little too bouncy and cossetted and my main setting is the normal in the Individual menu - But I have placed it in Sport many times, and its nice firm and flat as you would hope but even then bumps are not intrusive, its more the car jiggles on them than any feeling of crash

When carried a full car over Christmas the Comfort setting made the moving around of 5 adults (2 x elderly) a comfortable experience for all, with not even a whisper to any inconvenience felt

Imagine its quite firm on the standard non DCC set up, but there is no such thing as ruined ride on the MK 7 series

With 19" rims like I have in the Reifnitz and previously the R I would always select the DCC - personally feel its a great piece of tech that gives you noticeably difference experiences.

But as say to everyone, do not take my word, when spending the money we do on these cars, go to dealer and test drive one and see how feel for yourselves.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 28 January 2020, 11:30
It was left in comfort suspension mode so it rode the curbs better, same as the clubsport s ring record car. It does change the driving dynamics of the car though but just because it has a sport mode doesn't make it faster, so from that aspect you're right.

No its truly dynamic, the bump and rebound rates are adjusted in real time on a per wheel basis (unlike previous incarnations that were per axle or not even dynamic at all) based on an array of sensors on the vehicle.

The range of adjustment it runs is set by the profile, but its perfectly possible to hold any given corner speed pretty much equally in comfort (wide profile) or sport (narrow profile), in fact if anything, there are advantages of softer suspension unless you are relying on ride height/aero (like a F1 car does) - DCC is still a relatively subtle adjustment, in comfort you still aren't going to bottom out on the road.

The absolute details are in here:

http://www.my-gti.com/2653/volkswagen-dcc-adaptive-chassis-control-design-and-function

It's main function is to give the driver the *feel* of harder or softer suspension without compromising safety or even road performance.

As such its a fop much like the soundaktor or even a different throttle mapping. Its about your driver experience.

This is a road car we are talking about, they aren't going to give you anything truly crazy or actual race performance boosting.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 28 January 2020, 12:47
It was left in comfort suspension mode so it rode the curbs better, same as the clubsport s ring record car. It does change the driving dynamics of the car though but just because it has a sport mode doesn't make it faster, so from that aspect you're right.

No its truly dynamic, the bump and rebound rates are adjusted in real time on a per wheel basis (unlike previous incarnations that were per axle or not even dynamic at all) based on an array of sensors on the vehicle.

The range of adjustment it runs is set by the profile, but its perfectly possible to hold any given corner speed pretty much equally in comfort (wide profile) or sport (narrow profile), in fact if anything, there are advantages of softer suspension unless you are relying on ride height/aero (like a F1 car does) - DCC is still a relatively subtle adjustment, in comfort you still aren't going to bottom out on the road.

The absolute details are in here:

http://www.my-gti.com/2653/volkswagen-dcc-adaptive-chassis-control-design-and-function

It's main function is to give the driver the *feel* of harder or softer suspension without compromising safety or even road performance.

As such its a fop much like the soundaktor or even a different throttle mapping. Its about your driver experience.

This is a road car we are talking about, they aren't going to give you anything truly crazy or actual race performance boosting.

The  Scirocco that drove on the previous MWB platform had the version 1 DCC passive tech and it was all a little meh really, a little softer maybe when in comfort, but nothing that you really appreciated as making a huge difference, however the version 2 DCC on the new MQB platform is dynamic and as you rightly state adjust independently to the road - the version 2 tech is night and day to the version 1 tech.

From my post above, had to transport 5 adults to relatives over Christmas, my TCR converted itself to a standard Golf and did that job superbly, pressing comfort for Miss Daisy mode, soft steering, ride, gears and sound - next day, went out for a cross country trip to bring some presents back from other relatives on own, and some smiles were had as stayed in Sport throughout.

We all accept there is cars out there that have harder performance edges, but not many, if any would be any use to me for when doing the day to day
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 28 January 2020, 14:03
The  Scirocco that drove on the previous MWB platform had the version 1 DCC passive tech and it was all a little meh really, a little softer maybe when in comfort, but nothing that you really appreciated as making a huge difference, however the version 2 DCC on the new MQB platform is dynamic and as you rightly state adjust independently to the road - the version 2 tech is night and day to the version 1 tech.

I don't know if the Mk8 is going to get the Mk 3 version the Passat (can have) that does things like pre-emptive adjustments for corners (GPS based) or speed bump detection... but that is all out there as Bosch modules ready for integration.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 28 January 2020, 14:09
Oh and wasn't the Mk1 version "ACC" (confusing when you get to the Mk7 with automatic cruise control) - (probably) adaptable chasis control as opposed to Dynamic.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 28 January 2020, 19:09
It was left in comfort suspension mode so it rode the curbs better, same as the clubsport s ring record car. It does change the driving dynamics of the car though but just because it has a sport mode doesn't make it faster, so from that aspect you're right.

No its truly dynamic, the bump and rebound rates are adjusted in real time on a per wheel basis (unlike previous incarnations that were per axle or not even dynamic at all) based on an array of sensors on the vehicle.

The range of adjustment it runs is set by the profile, but its perfectly possible to hold any given corner speed pretty much equally in comfort (wide profile) or sport (narrow profile), in fact if anything, there are advantages of softer suspension unless you are relying on ride height/aero (like a F1 car does) - DCC is still a relatively subtle adjustment, in comfort you still aren't going to bottom out on the road.

The absolute details are in here:

http://www.my-gti.com/2653/volkswagen-dcc-adaptive-chassis-control-design-and-function

It's main function is to give the driver the *feel* of harder or softer suspension without compromising safety or even road performance.

As such its a fop much like the soundaktor or even a different throttle mapping. Its about your driver experience.

This is a road car we are talking about, they aren't going to give you anything truly crazy or actual race performance boosting.
I already fully understand how the entire system works Fred 👍
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 28 January 2020, 20:18
I'd be interested in someone who isn't a car reviewer, but an actual Mk7.5 GTI owner to drive it and tell you the answer.

In fact, I think our friend Exonian has that knowledge... I'm sure he'll be along soon.

I’ve been following the thread with interest but trying not to bore everyone even further with my own experiences and opinions too often.


Obviously I can’t give financial advice on whether the TCR would make a sound purchase if someone already has a perfectly good mk7 or 7.5 because everyone is different and has different circumstances. Generally I’d advise against but that removes the emotion which is what these cars are about.
Just like some people like to try different cleaning products or tuning options I have ended up putting my money where my mouth is and tried out different versions of mk7 because that’s my one little long standing indulgence in life, and I find it easier to do a few small jumps than an occasional leap financially speaking.
However needs, uses and finances can vary massively over a period of time.

My experience of a mk7 GTI PP ended around May 2015 and my R parted company with me in December 2016 after I’d barely used it for four months. So any opinions of ride quality to compare directly are watered down by the mists of time, but I’m quite good at remembering specifics of cars unlike trying to remember relatives birthdays and such like which I can never manage.

I don’t know specific part numbers but I’d imagine the non DCC shares very very similar suspension components and settings to a non DCC Clubsport Ed40.
Therefore the same ride height as a regular GTI but slightly more performance tuned springs that are slightly knobblier in ride quality but give a real light footed athletic feel to handling.
To my uneducated eye I’d say the Reifnitz (and therefore likely the Pretoria) Pack TCR’s have some trick little bits up their sleeve akin to the Cupras that had the sports package or maybe even a few bits learned from the CSS development. On my car it definitely looks to be running a bit of negative camber that the Ed40 lacked, it definitely sits lower and in ‘Normal’ DCC mode it rides a fraction better over the worst irregularities, but being “dynamic” it tends to feel slightly inert and mushy at times in regular slowish driving yet transforms if you load it up a bit, and can be truly impressive if you take it by the scruff whilst not requiring illegal speeds to offer a very rewarding experience on the sort of roads GTI’s come into their own.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 30 January 2020, 16:03
So today I've been back for a second look and a test drive of a 5 door Oryx white TCR. Even though the weather wasn't great and, considering it's on a main dealer forecourt, it's not really being presented as I would expect (it clearly hasn't had more than a cursory wash for some time), it still looked really good. Sounded good on start up, not as loud as I feared, and the Reifnitz really suit it (last time I saw it it was in a tight parking space so I couldn't stand back for a better view). The interior is great, especially with the extra light from the sunroof. Then we went out for a drive, as a passenger then driver. As a passenger it was very comfortable, rides very well and takes the bumps without crashing. Pulls well and goes through the gears quickly. First thing I noticed taking the wheel was how dead the go pedal was :rolleyes:, pulling out of junctions was a bit of a pain and you don't want to give an unfamiliar car a heavy boot so if I go for it I think my pedalbox will be coming with me. I've read others saying to put it in sport to get it going but surely you shouldn't have to bugger about with all that? 1 up to a manual.. DSG was great on the move though and it was nice being back in an auto. With my preference for a 3 door I didn't think I'd consider a 5 door but it did look good and there's the added practicality I suppose, so not too big an issue.

We did some figures including a trade in on mine and it's about where I expected. The big thing though was how I'd feel getting back in my own car, older and manual, I have to say it's still great! I prefer the simplicity of the dials and the textured black trim rather than the gloss black. In fairness I didn't give the TCR a workout but mine gets down the road pretty sharpish, probably helped by the pedalbox giving that lively feel, and the manual gear change is really good.

So, am I going to change? That's the £17k question... I'm going to sleep on it...
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: dean5125 on 30 January 2020, 16:30

So, am I going to change? That's the £17k question... I'm going to sleep on it...

Nice little review..... something tells me you won't be doing much sleeping though!!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 30 January 2020, 17:40
So today I've been back for a second look and a test drive of a 5 door Oryx white TCR. Even though the weather wasn't great and, considering it's on a main dealer forecourt, it's not really being presented as I would expect (it clearly hasn't had more than a cursory wash for some time), it still looked really good. Sounded good on start up, not as loud as I feared, and the Reifnitz really suit it (last time I saw it it was in a tight parking space so I couldn't stand back for a better view). The interior is great, especially with the extra light from the sunroof. Then we went out for a drive, as a passenger then driver. As a passenger it was very comfortable, rides very well and takes the bumps without crashing. Pulls well and goes through the gears quickly. First thing I noticed taking the wheel was how dead the go pedal was :rolleyes:, pulling out of junctions was a bit of a pain and you don't want to give an unfamiliar car a heavy boot so if I go for it I think my pedalbox will be coming with me. I've read others saying to put it in sport to get it going but surely you shouldn't have to bugger about with all that? 1 up to a manual.. DSG was great on the move though and it was nice being back in an auto. With my preference for a 3 door I didn't think I'd consider a 5 door but it did look good and there's the added practicality I suppose, so not too big an issue.

We did some figures including a trade in on mine and it's about where I expected. The big thing though was how I'd feel getting back in my own car, older and manual, I have to say it's still great! I prefer the simplicity of the dials and the textured black trim rather than the gloss black. In fairness I didn't give the TCR a workout but mine gets down the road pretty sharpish, probably helped by the pedalbox giving that lively feel, and the manual gear change is really good.

So, am I going to change? That's the £17k question... I'm going to sleep on it...

The pedal response is much better than my previous R, and quite like its not too aggressive on the standard crawl around, but as others have said its much livelier in Sport as you would expect.

Another difference to the R was that Race in the R was pretty unusable, with overly long and annoying changes if just commuting about, where as the mapping in the TCR in Sport is perfectly usable and intuitive in regular traffic, in that if you back off the acceleration it will change up so not over revving, but if pushing on, it hangs onto that gear right through revs to next change up as you would want.

DSG is a separate subject really, some will always champion manual as the drivers choice, but for me I will never go back, its removed the stress out of my day to day, and now totally in tune with its characteristics I really get the best out of it, and you can go manual (make own decisions) to an extent with the paddles - Wife drove my previous and within a month we had traded her manual car in for an Stronic - I had drove autos previously in US and UK, sluggish and awful, but the DSG is an amazing piece of tech, and total convert

as for the decision, its always so personal and you need to be honest with self, personally I might just stick with the GTI PP as characteristics are obviously very similar, and save a ton of ££'s

My choice was much easier, always wanted a GTI from day they were introduced and this was perfect opportunity to finally get one

Really liked the styling, and liked that this version retained the near 300 BHP was used to in R

GTI owners have always stated that the GTI is the drivers car over the R, which must admit fell on deaf ears when ran an R, but having spent 3000 miles in the TCR now, there is definitely an added lightness and agility that the heavier and planted R does not give you feel of - thats no criticism of the R as I really enjoyed that aspect, but am also appreciating the difference for me in drive which you will not feel coming from a GTI PP

Exclusivity is a nice bonus, it looks great, nice n stealthy, and to this day not seen another on the road - Not sure if one you looked at was Akrapovic, but its starting to make some lovely sounds now bedded in.

Moving from a MK 7 > MK 7.5 also appreciate the Digital display (always an analogue guy, but its a great piece of tech and I am converted), the upgraded lights (love the auto high beam) and the improved media system, so much clearer not just for media use, but on reverse camera

Its a harder decision coming from a GTI PP and you really will have to see how feel about all the little above and extras that the TCR has, even the softer aspect of exclusivity - Oryx white is a really nice colour by the way, that will be a rare option

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 30 January 2020, 17:50
Watts, you don't sound blown away by the TCR?

For comparison purposes, why don't you test drive a CS, you could switch for around 1/2 the cost, still plenty of low mileage cars around?

That may end up showing you how great the TCR & PP are, or not!? :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 30 January 2020, 18:19
something tells me you won't be doing much sleeping though!!  :grin:

It's definitely a tough choice :undecided:

Hertsman - many thanks for taking the time to post all that, very useful and I think you have summarised the issue well in that there just isn't going to be an obvious big difference (other than the money...).

Watts, you don't sound blown away by the TCR?

For comparison purposes, why don't you test drive a CS, you could switch for around 1/2 the cost, still plenty of low mileage cars around?

That may end up showing you how great the TCR & PP are, or not!? :)

Definitely not blown away, it was a really good car and if I do change I'm sure I'll be very happy with it. Exonian talks about  all the little differences adding up and he's probably right, I'm not sure my driving environment will allow me to appreciate the differences though. My commute is 5.5 miles, nice and steady but no opportunities to explore a car's dynamics (I drive around the Heathrow perimeter road which is now 30mph with lots of cameras), my local roads are all slow and congested, when I go on holiday or visit family it is lots of motorway miles which are hardly exhilarating. I still enjoy driving, I just don't think I'll get much use of the extras a TCR offers.

I've got to go and get some dinner on now, time to get to grips with some smoked Tofu :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 30 January 2020, 18:23
Interesting stuff from everyone. Hertsman, I wonder if the issue in your 7R was because of the older DSG box? I tried a few Rs and S3s pre-facelift and post-facelift. I had the same issue when in race or dynamic but not in facelifted cars.   
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 January 2020, 18:34
I'm going from a 7 GTi pp manual to the TCR and it took me less than 5 minutes to decide I was changing. I haven't a clue where people think the accelerator pedal is dead because in every version I've driven including my own it just doesn't have a dead pedal, at all. The last dsg I had was the 7 speed one on the Tiguan diesel I had. Hated it with a passion but on a petrol it's completely different and on the 40 minute test drive didn't think once about the dsg. I'm at the point in my life now where I think f*** it, you never know what's round the corner. So I ordered the TCR  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 January 2020, 18:50
Watts, you don't sound blown away by the TCR?

For comparison purposes, why don't you test drive a CS, you could switch for around 1/2 the cost, still plenty of low mileage cars around?

That may end up showing you how great the TCR & PP are, or not!? :)

I think the decision would be easier for Watts if you could get a 3 door manual TCR.

Thanks to VW's push to get all performance cars to DSG, I'm in a DSG Polo GTI+ , but I feel it would be far better as a manual. I just don't get the love for DSG at all. Advantage DSG if you live your life in gridlock, but the DSG will never be as smart as a switched on driver with a manual box. For some, those shortcomings annoy more than the upsides delight.

Sounds like Watts is a dyed in the wool manual fan who'll find the DSG a compromise rather than a plus point.

You can use the box in manual mode, but the stick is so unintuitive (if only it was reversed - pull for up shift and push for downshift!) and paddles are only good in a straight line.

At some point the manual enthusiasts are going to have to migrate to a car that gives you a manual option until all cars are electric and all you have is a single stop-start pedal.

An engaging drive is dying a death.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 30 January 2020, 19:38
I haven't a clue where people think the accelerator pedal is dead because in every version I've driven including my own it just doesn't have a dead pedal, at all.

Good that we can all see things differently, I'm polar opposite, not sure that bees have knees but the pedalbox does it for me :smiley:

I'm at the point in my life now where I think f*** it, you never know what's round the corner. So I ordered the TCR  :grin:

Now that's good advice!

I think the decision would be easier for Watts if you could get a 3 door manual TCR.

Thanks to VW's push to get all performance cars to DSG, I'm in a DSG Polo GTI+ , but I feel it would be far better as a manual. I just don't get the love for DSG at all. Advantage DSG if you live your life in gridlock, but the DSG will never be as smart as a switched on driver with a manual box. For some, those shortcomings annoy more than the upsides delight.

Sounds like Watts is a dyed in the wool manual fan who'll find the DSG a compromise rather than a plus point.

You can use the box in manual mode, but the stick is so unintuitive (if only it was reversed - pull for up shift and push for downshift!) and paddles are only good in a straight line.

At some point the manual enthusiasts are going to have to migrate to a car that gives you a manual option until all cars are electric and all you have is a single stop-start pedal.

An engaging drive is dying a death.

Actually I've had more years in autos, that's why I'm enjoying this car so much. But you might be right with my viewing DSG as a compromise, in autos I've tended to just stick them in D and go, plus an old auto is more like a manual in that instead of a sport mode, you just put your foot down! Why does 'progress' seem to make things so unnecessarily complicated?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Zermatt on 30 January 2020, 20:33
Thanks for your thoughts on the test drive and as a Manual 3 door owner I share a lot of your thoughts on this, if a 3 door Manual TCR had been available  at launch I probably would have held of buying the PP last Feb.

Driving my PP Manual on my commute, 10 miles of Scottish B road this week I’m convinced the Manual is best suited for this road.

Everyone will have a different set of circumstances and driving conditions, if I had a motorway commute everyday then I’d probably go DSG.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 30 January 2020, 21:36
Thanks for your thoughts on the test drive and as a Manual 3 door owner I share a lot of your thoughts on this, if a 3 door Manual TCR had been available  at launch I probably would have held of buying the PP last Feb.

Driving my PP Manual on my commute, 10 miles of Scottish B road this week I’m convinced the Manual is best suited for this road.

Everyone will have a different set of circumstances and driving conditions, if I had a motorway commute everyday then I’d probably go DSG.

Think that’s spot on.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: dean5125 on 31 January 2020, 08:56

Definitely not blown away, it was a really good car and if I do change I'm sure I'll be very happy with it. Exonian talks about  all the little differences adding up and he's probably right, I'm not sure my driving environment will allow me to appreciate the differences though. My commute is 5.5 miles, nice and steady but no opportunities to explore a car's dynamics (I drive around the Heathrow perimeter road which is now 30mph with lots of cameras), my local roads are all slow and congested, when I go on holiday or visit family it is lots of motorway miles which are hardly exhilarating. I still enjoy driving, I just don't think I'll get much use of the extras a TCR offers.


I sympathise with you on this, my car does nothing but a 1 mile commute to the office, usually heavy traffic and a bit of pottering at the weekends but usually with a toddler onboard.... begs the question of why have a GTI? However Thursday night I go up to see my folks and the drive back on quite country roads and it all make sense.... These are the do everything car but I still think you buy with your heart!

The sad part is, I am a DSG convert and I don't think I'd ever go back to manual (lucky for me as they are on the way out!) but I'm taking the missus car for 2 new tyres tomorrow and I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to driving a manual again.... definitely only for a short time though! :grin:

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: jf111 on 02 February 2020, 00:35
Anyone driving a TCR with the 'Quaranta' 18" wheels & DCC, who has also driven one on 19s with the 20mm lower suspension etc? How much of a difference is it?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 02 February 2020, 10:07
Can’t make an exact comparison for you but I come from an m1335i on 18s to the TCR with 19s and DCC and the TCR is much better.

I think unless you are super sensitive their isn’t a reason to worry about going with 19s and DCC. It’s rrally does strike a great balance of comfort and firmness.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: jf111 on 02 February 2020, 23:42
Can’t make an exact comparison for you but I come from an m1335i on 18s to the TCR with 19s and DCC and the TCR is much better.

I think unless you are super sensitive their isn’t a reason to worry about going with 19s and DCC. It’s rrally does strike a great balance of comfort and firmness.

Reason I ask is that I've placed an order for a TCR but it has the 18s with DCC. I don't like those alloys at all, at least in the pictures so am wondering if it's worth changing them. Another option is cancelling the order and finding one with 19s (and the 'performance pack' to lower the suspension, etc). Can't decide. The car I've found seems like a good price and there's not many new TCRs left, so i'm in two minds about what to do.

Also, how did someone manage to get leather seats in a TCR? https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/new/201909252608770
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: ar899 on 03 February 2020, 06:14
Why did you order a £30k+ car with alloys 'you don't like at all'? If they are going to bug you every time you look at them, then sounds like your mind is made up already.

I've been trying to find the 'perfect' hatchback and, after much research, guess what, it doesn't exist. The Golf is probably the closest though. Whatever you buy involves some sort of compromise.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 03 February 2020, 07:21
The 18s (to me) look great in person and much better than the pictures. Again, in my view not as good as the 19’s but each to their own.

If you are happy with the deal then I would just move on it. Wheels are the easiest thing to change and not for too much cost with plenty of options available.

You could always sell your old set to part fund or even keep them as a winter set (that’s what I would probably do).

I don’t think there are that many to be that picky over the spec available to choose from tbh. I would be perhaps reconsidering the deal on other items but not wheels, but as said, each to their own.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Paul70 on 03 February 2020, 08:12
You will have no problem selling a new pair of the 18s, which I am sure will be cheaper than cancelling an existing order and trying to renegotiate a stock order simply due to supply and demand. My dealer (others may have a different view) was frank with me, stating they will have no new GTIs for over 12 months so they are not in any hurry to do a great deal on existing new stock cars. Perhaps their position will change if the cars are still in stock in 6 months time.

Putting to one side the looks the standard wheels, they are super light at 7.5 kg and strong too being forged. The weight reduction does positively affect the handling of the Clubsport.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: st33ly on 03 February 2020, 10:27
Can’t make an exact comparison for you but I come from an m1335i on 18s to the TCR with 19s and DCC and the TCR is much better.

I think unless you are super sensitive their isn’t a reason to worry about going with 19s and DCC. It’s rrally does strike a great balance of comfort and firmness.

Reason I ask is that I've placed an order for a TCR but it has the 18s with DCC. I don't like those alloys at all, at least in the pictures so am wondering if it's worth changing them. Another option is cancelling the order and finding one with 19s (and the 'performance pack' to lower the suspension, etc). Can't decide. The car I've found seems like a good price and there's not many new TCRs left, so i'm in two minds about what to do.

Also, how did someone manage to get leather seats in a TCR? https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/new/201909252608770


Tried to PM you but you can’t receive them yet.

Hi

Just for info if you want to sell the alloy wheels then I’ll buy them off you. I’m after a set of the 18” Belvedere alloys for my Clubsport S. Give me a text on 07834154523 Many thanks.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 05 February 2020, 15:00
Anyone driving a TCR with the 'Quaranta' 18" wheels & DCC, who has also driven one on 19s with the 20mm lower suspension etc? How much of a difference is it?

Daft question maybe, but why did you order with 18’s and DCC if you hate the wheel style?
Or do you hate the 19” designs too so opted to save £1400 or whatever?
Or was it a locked in order already?

As above, there’s a good market for Belvedere/Quantara alloys as they’re made by the hallowed Fuchs brand and are very light.
I kept the set my Clubsport came on but have had a few offers to tempt me to sell them, not least from the dealership staff when I part exchanged the car!


In your shoes I’d probably sell the Belvederes sans tyres or keep the wheels for when I sell the car again and either run the supplied tyres on a set of aftermarket wheels (18” Borbet FF1 are reasonably priced, light weight and suit the mk7 Golfs perfectly) or pick up a set of 19” Pretoria wheels as there are a few low mileage OEM sets of Pretoria Black on sale second hand right now.
Or get a set of replicas from CM Wheels.

I’ve run both 18” and 19” wheels on a GTI PP, R and Edition 40 without DCC and can say there is very little difference in ride quality aside from the inevitable slight extra jarring if you unexpectedly hit a sharp ridge (pothole you’d not been able to drive around or bad expansion joint) which is going to be the case with any ultra low profile tyre.
I now run a TCR with DCC and find it very comfortable in Normal mode.
To be honest I’ve never tried Sport suspension mode or Comfort as it drives fine in Normal and I can’t be bothered to mess about with menus non stop. Too many menus just add complication that isn’t necessary in my eyes.
At the end of the day it’s a sports hatch and either 40 or 35 profile tyres are going to transmit some shocks or noise on our dreadful roads. An SUV with loads of spring travel and balloon tyres is the only cure for that.
For its class the mk7(7.5) does a very good job of ride versus handling in any of the performance models even wearing 235/35 tyres.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 05 February 2020, 16:08
Exonian, I don't quite undwerstand your post above, if you have DCC with 19's, why not change modes.

On a choppy UK B road there is no doubt that comfort mode is beneficial.

There is that often quoted line about the CS-S ring lap car was driven in Comfort mode.

I don't know if you have ever lapped the Nordschleife, but it has the characteristice of many tracks in one, with some of it fairly simiar to the previously mentioned UK B road.

Yes, you could say Normal mode with 19's is ok, it is, but it's certainly not optimal!


Everytime I see this thread back near the top of recent postings, I log on with eager anticipation of Watts amazing new TCR purchase!? :)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 05 February 2020, 17:07
Everytime I see this thread back near the top of recent postings, I log on with eager anticipation of Watts amazing new TCR purchase!? :)

 :laugh: Keep you eye out then :wink:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 05 February 2020, 17:35
Everytime I see this thread back near the top of recent postings, I log on with eager anticipation of Watts amazing new TCR purchase!? :)

Me too :grin:.

Took my car for its annual service and MOT yesterday and the dealer had a new, unregistered Grey TCR (without the side graphics) with 19” alloys in the showroom. First one I’ve seen in the flesh and I thought it looked great. Really liked the combination of Grey paint and black wheels too - and I don’t normally like black alloys.

I really liked the interior but resisted the temptation to sit in it, and made do with sitting in the white Polo GTI+ they also had in the showroom :smiley:.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 05 February 2020, 18:47
Exonian, I don't quite undwerstand your post above, if you have DCC with 19's, why not change modes.

On a choppy UK B road there is no doubt that comfort mode is beneficial.

There is that often quoted line about the CS-S ring lap car was driven in Comfort mode.




I get why the CSS was run in comfort allowing it to bounce up kerbs without breaking Benny L’s spine but I’ve never been to the ‘Ring and have no intention of going. I’m not a closet racing driver I’m afraid. I’ve no intention of exploring the car’s limits on public roads either, it’s way more competent than I am. I sometimes drive quite spiritedly but most of the time I’m stuck behind Mavis in her i10 doing 35 in an NSL with nowhere to overtake (and would only then get stuck behind Gloria in her Micra half a mile up the road if I did risk life and limb passing like a certain tw@t I see from time to time on my commute driving a white 7.5 GTI with a James Bond plate  :rolleyes: )

I’m not a complete bore (I hope). I did used to do occasional track days in my younger life and spent my whole first 30 years of driving modifying cars too, with countless remaps and Suspension kits, brakes, wheels, more wheels and even more wheels again.

Unfortunately nowadays I have no enthusiasm for it.
What makes a good track car makes for a less good commuter car in my experience.
I want sharp responses, relative comfort and engine flexibility for cut and thrust, not outright speed or on the limit finesse. I’ll leave the latter for those that worship Evo Magazine and have have far more money and time than me.

Normal is good.
I want something I can get in and just drive, have a bit of fun in and arrive at work unflustered. Which is what Golf GTI’s are all about.
Modes are fine, but so long as Normal allows me to do the daily grind and still marvel at how good the basic underpinnings of the car are when Mavis is watching Songs of Praise then I feel no need to find badly placed buttons or scroll through screens on the fly.
Hats off to Benny Leuchter and all the team who developed this great chassis. I found it superb without DCC and marginally better with it. I wouldn’t spec it myself.
I probably won’t be one of those lamenting high revving petrol engines once electric cars are properly developed to handle well and accelerate like Teslas. An ID.3 R would be lovely, thank you.


Now edited around 12 hours later:

Update.
Ok Mr clubsport, I took your challenge!

I did my 4:30am commute in Comfort (everything else in sport bar Soundaktor and gearbox)

The ‘ring CSS might ride the kerbs well but I elected to avoid the things on my way home!
I guess the Dynamic part of DCC firms up the dampers when they’re put under cornering load on track but when cruising public roads in Comfort I found the car body to be constantly moving around jelly like. Cornering felt a bit woolly and believe it or not, despite almost identical temperature and traffic conditions (no traffic!) the journey did 2mpg less than normal and average speed was slightly less. I think I drove a bit slower without realising as the car didn’t feel comfortable!

The trip included a few roundabouts, the city ring road and about ten miles of single track very winding country A road. Just over 13 miles all in.

The non DCC Ed40 felt taut and lively on that route.
The TCR in normal feels taut but slightly inert at times (similar to an M135i I had on test) when just cruising but much sharper when driven more dynamically, but in Comfort it’s too bouncy, the front outer damper wallows around roundabouts unless put under higher load and surprisingly in Comfort potholes actually feel worse and transmit more noise.

I’ll try it in Sport mode later in the week. I’ve got a dentist appointment next week anyway!



Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 05 February 2020, 20:16
Everytime I see this thread back near the top of recent postings, I log on with eager anticipation of Watts amazing new TCR purchase!? :)

 :laugh: Keep you eye out then :wink:

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Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 05 February 2020, 20:19
Everytime I see this thread back near the top of recent postings, I log on with eager anticipation of Watts amazing new TCR purchase!? :)

Me too :grin:.

I really liked the interior but resisted the temptation to sit in it, and made do with sitting in the white Polo GTI+ they also had in the showroom :smiley:.

You say you resisted but the seed has been sown  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 05 February 2020, 20:39
Everytime I see this thread back near the top of recent postings, I log on with eager anticipation of Watts amazing new TCR purchase!? :)

Me too :grin:.

I really liked the interior but resisted the temptation to sit in it, and made do with sitting in the white Polo GTI+ they also had in the showroom :smiley:.

You say you resisted but the seed has been sown  :grin:

I’ve got very strong willpower :grin:.

Having said that, I usually change my car when it’s between 4 and 5 years old, and it’ll be 4 years old at the end of this month.......... :whistle:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 05 February 2020, 20:48
Everytime I see this thread back near the top of recent postings, I log on with eager anticipation of Watts amazing new TCR purchase!? :)

Me too :grin:.

I really liked the interior but resisted the temptation to sit in it, and made do with sitting in the white Polo GTI+ they also had in the showroom :smiley:.

You say you resisted but the seed has been sown  :grin:

I’ve got very strong willpower :grin:.

Having said that, I usually change my car when it’s between 4 and 5 years old, and it’ll be 4 years old at the end of this month.......... :whistle:

The interior is one of the highlights for me. Go on, you can change your name to SRTCR :whistle:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 05 February 2020, 21:04
Everytime I see this thread back near the top of recent postings, I log on with eager anticipation of Watts amazing new TCR purchase!? :)

Me too :grin:.

I really liked the interior but resisted the temptation to sit in it, and made do with sitting in the white Polo GTI+ they also had in the showroom :smiley:.

You say you resisted but the seed has been sown  :grin:

I’ve got very strong willpower :grin:.

Having said that, I usually change my car when it’s between 4 and 5 years old, and it’ll be 4 years old at the end of this month.......... :whistle:

The interior is one of the highlights for me. Go on, you can change your name to SRTCR :whistle:

Ha ha. I don’t think the incentive of changing my forum name is enough of a temptation.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: jf111 on 05 February 2020, 23:39
Why did you order a £30k+ car with alloys 'you don't like at all'? If they are going to bug you every time you look at them, then sounds like your mind is made up already.

I've been trying to find the 'perfect' hatchback and, after much research, guess what, it doesn't exist. The Golf is probably the closest though. Whatever you buy involves some sort of compromise.

I've been looking for a new car for a while. It's been a while since I've had a VW but I definitely have soft spot for them. I've had plenty of MK1/MK2 Golfs in the past and a MK4 R32. Then various other cars up to my current Fiesta ST.

Having driven the MK7/7.5 GTI and R on 2 different test drives (each), I didn't like the R as much as the GTI. Just didn't seem as fun to me, at least at road speeds. The GTI though was right up my street and I really enjoyed it. Anyway, I settled on a Golf GTI Performance but couldn't find the right car at the right price because stock is very limited at the moment. TCRs weren't even an option on the budget I'd worked out, or so I thought. I decided to go brand new because while there are plenty of decent cars between £20-30k, buying used is actually more expensive than buying a new car, especially with the 0% PCP finance VWFS are offering at the moment.

While looking around, a dealer offered me an extremely good price on a TCR and despite the spec not being 100%, I couldn't argue with the price. A friend put me in touch with someone he knew and I think I got some form of "mates rates". I'm paying less per month than someone I know is paying for a 1.4 Renault Clio (my deposit was £3k less as well).

Something like a set of wheels is so easy to change that it's insignificant. I was just looking for opinions on whether the performance pack is a "must have" or not, with the lowered suspension, etc. My car has DCC so it's probably fine, especially as I'm unlikely to be visiting a track any time soon (not ruling it out though).

Can’t make an exact comparison for you but I come from an m1335i on 18s to the TCR with 19s and DCC and the TCR is much better.

I think unless you are super sensitive their isn’t a reason to worry about going with 19s and DCC. It’s rrally does strike a great balance of comfort and firmness.

Reason I ask is that I've placed an order for a TCR but it has the 18s with DCC. I don't like those alloys at all, at least in the pictures so am wondering if it's worth changing them. Another option is cancelling the order and finding one with 19s (and the 'performance pack' to lower the suspension, etc). Can't decide. The car I've found seems like a good price and there's not many new TCRs left, so i'm in two minds about what to do.

Also, how did someone manage to get leather seats in a TCR? https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/new/201909252608770


Tried to PM you but you can’t receive them yet.

Hi

Just for info if you want to sell the alloy wheels then I’ll buy them off you. I’m after a set of the 18” Belvedere alloys for my Clubsport S. Give me a text on 07... Many thanks.

As you know, already sent a few texts back and forth. So if you wanted to go and edit your number out, feel free. I'll see what these 18" wheels look like in real life first but you have first refusal if I decide to sell them :)

Anyone driving a TCR with the 'Quaranta' 18" wheels & DCC, who has also driven one on 19s with the 20mm lower suspension etc? How much of a difference is it?

Daft question maybe, but why did you order with 18’s and DCC if you hate the wheel style?
Or do you hate the 19” designs too so opted to save £1400 or whatever?
Or was it a locked in order already?

As above, there’s a good market for Belvedere/Quantara alloys as they’re made by the hallowed Fuchs brand and are very light.
I kept the set my Clubsport came on but have had a few offers to tempt me to sell them, not least from the dealership staff when I part exchanged the car!


In your shoes I’d probably sell the Belvederes sans tyres or keep the wheels for when I sell the car again and either run the supplied tyres on a set of aftermarket wheels (18” Borbet FF1 are reasonably priced, light weight and suit the mk7 Golfs perfectly) or pick up a set of 19” Pretoria wheels as there are a few low mileage OEM sets of Pretoria Black on sale second hand right now.
Or get a set of replicas from CM Wheels.

I’ve run both 18” and 19” wheels on a GTI PP, R and Edition 40 without DCC and can say there is very little difference in ride quality aside from the inevitable slight extra jarring if you unexpectedly hit a sharp ridge (pothole you’d not been able to drive around or bad expansion joint) which is going to be the case with any ultra low profile tyre.
I now run a TCR with DCC and find it very comfortable in Normal mode.
To be honest I’ve never tried Sport suspension mode or Comfort as it drives fine in Normal and I can’t be bothered to mess about with menus non stop. Too many menus just add complication that isn’t necessary in my eyes.
At the end of the day it’s a sports hatch and either 40 or 35 profile tyres are going to transmit some shocks or noise on our dreadful roads. An SUV with loads of spring travel and balloon tyres is the only cure for that.
For its class the mk7(7.5) does a very good job of ride versus handling in any of the performance models even wearing 235/35 tyres.

See above for my explanation of my choice of car!

I think those Borbet wheels are quite nice. I'm going to have to find all the threads with MK7 Golfs on various wheels and choose something. I'm not interested in Pretorias, as while they look good, every other Golf seems to have them. I'd like to be a little unique - it doesn't have to be OEM+.

Thanks for the insight on the car in general - useful to know. It'll definitely be a step up in comfort from my current Fiesta ST (which is horrendous on anything except brand new tarmac) and I'll have to play about with the DCC settings myself and see what works.

I'm pretty excited to get my new car.. only a few weeks to go now!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 06 February 2020, 08:42
Why did you order a £30k+ car with alloys 'you don't like at all'? If they are going to bug you every time you look at them, then sounds like your mind is made up already.

I've been trying to find the 'perfect' hatchback and, after much research, guess what, it doesn't exist. The Golf is probably the closest though. Whatever you buy involves some sort of compromise.

I've been looking for a new car for a while. It's been a while since I've had a VW but I definitely have soft spot for them. I've had plenty of MK1/MK2 Golfs in the past and a MK4 R32. Then various other cars up to my current Fiesta ST.

Having driven the MK7/7.5 GTI and R on 2 different test drives (each), I didn't like the R as much as the GTI. Just didn't seem as fun to me, at least at road speeds. The GTI though was right up my street and I really enjoyed it. Anyway, I settled on a Golf GTI Performance but couldn't find the right car at the right price because stock is very limited at the moment. TCRs weren't even an option on the budget I'd worked out, or so I thought. I decided to go brand new because while there are plenty of decent cars between £20-30k, buying used is actually more expensive than buying a new car, especially with the 0% PCP finance VWFS are offering at the moment.

While looking around, a dealer offered me an extremely good price on a TCR and despite the spec not being 100%, I couldn't argue with the price. A friend put me in touch with someone he knew and I think I got some form of "mates rates". I'm paying less per month than someone I know is paying for a 1.4 Renault Clio (my deposit was £3k less as well).

Something like a set of wheels is so easy to change that it's insignificant. I was just looking for opinions on whether the performance pack is a "must have" or not, with the lowered suspension, etc. My car has DCC so it's probably fine, especially as I'm unlikely to be visiting a track any time soon (not ruling it out though).

Can’t make an exact comparison for you but I come from an m1335i on 18s to the TCR with 19s and DCC and the TCR is much better.

I think unless you are super sensitive their isn’t a reason to worry about going with 19s and DCC. It’s rrally does strike a great balance of comfort and firmness.

Reason I ask is that I've placed an order for a TCR but it has the 18s with DCC. I don't like those alloys at all, at least in the pictures so am wondering if it's worth changing them. Another option is cancelling the order and finding one with 19s (and the 'performance pack' to lower the suspension, etc). Can't decide. The car I've found seems like a good price and there's not many new TCRs left, so i'm in two minds about what to do.

Also, how did someone manage to get leather seats in a TCR? https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/new/201909252608770


Tried to PM you but you can’t receive them yet.

Hi

Just for info if you want to sell the alloy wheels then I’ll buy them off you. I’m after a set of the 18” Belvedere alloys for my Clubsport S. Give me a text on 07... Many thanks.

As you know, already sent a few texts back and forth. So if you wanted to go and edit your number out, feel free. I'll see what these 18" wheels look like in real life first but you have first refusal if I decide to sell them :)

Anyone driving a TCR with the 'Quaranta' 18" wheels & DCC, who has also driven one on 19s with the 20mm lower suspension etc? How much of a difference is it?

Daft question maybe, but why did you order with 18’s and DCC if you hate the wheel style?
Or do you hate the 19” designs too so opted to save £1400 or whatever?
Or was it a locked in order already?

As above, there’s a good market for Belvedere/Quantara alloys as they’re made by the hallowed Fuchs brand and are very light.
I kept the set my Clubsport came on but have had a few offers to tempt me to sell them, not least from the dealership staff when I part exchanged the car!


In your shoes I’d probably sell the Belvederes sans tyres or keep the wheels for when I sell the car again and either run the supplied tyres on a set of aftermarket wheels (18” Borbet FF1 are reasonably priced, light weight and suit the mk7 Golfs perfectly) or pick up a set of 19” Pretoria wheels as there are a few low mileage OEM sets of Pretoria Black on sale second hand right now.
Or get a set of replicas from CM Wheels.

I’ve run both 18” and 19” wheels on a GTI PP, R and Edition 40 without DCC and can say there is very little difference in ride quality aside from the inevitable slight extra jarring if you unexpectedly hit a sharp ridge (pothole you’d not been able to drive around or bad expansion joint) which is going to be the case with any ultra low profile tyre.
I now run a TCR with DCC and find it very comfortable in Normal mode.
To be honest I’ve never tried Sport suspension mode or Comfort as it drives fine in Normal and I can’t be bothered to mess about with menus non stop. Too many menus just add complication that isn’t necessary in my eyes.
At the end of the day it’s a sports hatch and either 40 or 35 profile tyres are going to transmit some shocks or noise on our dreadful roads. An SUV with loads of spring travel and balloon tyres is the only cure for that.
For its class the mk7(7.5) does a very good job of ride versus handling in any of the performance models even wearing 235/35 tyres.

See above for my explanation of my choice of car!

I think those Borbet wheels are quite nice. I'm going to have to find all the threads with MK7 Golfs on various wheels and choose something. I'm not interested in Pretorias, as while they look good, every other Golf seems to have them. I'd like to be a little unique - it doesn't have to be OEM+.

Thanks for the insight on the car in general - useful to know. It'll definitely be a step up in comfort from my current Fiesta ST (which is horrendous on anything except brand new tarmac) and I'll have to play about with the DCC settings myself and see what works.

I'm pretty excited to get my new car.. only a few weeks to go now!

Colleague has a 67 plate ST and its quite a decent car, seems fun to drive, but ride is quite intrusive (these views from passenger seat down some lanes on trip to pub lunch) Interior was better than thought.

This same colleague has had the very same trip in my TCR and he literally drools over it, he has been in it at least 3 times and you think he was seeing it for first time each time such is his enthusiasm.

Sounds like you have got yourself a decent deal and imagine like most GTI the older it gets the more stable its depreciation becomes and maybe more so with the TCR, which all adds the justification.

I actually like the standard wheels, they look pretty good on the ClubSport when that was released and many kept them as standard (clubsport owners correct me if wrong) I just liked the size and the style of the Reifnitz more.

Personally think the DCC is the must and you have that, so happy days, and does give you lots of scope to play with wheel options and the standard ones will offset cost nicely as they are desired and relatively rare (as most went down performance pack path)

Graham from the forum has done a really nice job with his wheel options https://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=285375.0 (https://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=285375.0)

My previous car was the 300 BHP AWD Golf R and after 3000 miles + am enjoying the TCR just a little bit more, the 290 BHP keeps the pace of that R and some of the MK 7 > MK 7.5 general lifts have been pleasant surprises.

Many here choice is coming from their present GTI PP or Golf R when looking at the TCR so there are differences but the margins are either smaller or subjective.

However, coming from a Fiesta ST you are taking a leap and be interested to see how you take to the TCR.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 06 February 2020, 17:44
Deal done, deposit paid, collection on Tuesday.... :whistle:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 06 February 2020, 18:00
Deal done, deposit paid, collection on Tuesday.... :whistle:

Fantastic! Great to hear.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 06 February 2020, 18:10
Deal done, deposit paid, collection on Tuesday.... :whistle:

Fantastic! Great to hear.

Cheers! :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: king monkey on 06 February 2020, 18:16
What spec did you go for? Looking forward to the pictures!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 06 February 2020, 18:53
I've gone for a 19 plate 5dr, Oryx white with Reifnitz and a sunroof.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 06 February 2020, 19:09
Deal done, deposit paid, collection on Tuesday.... :whistle:

Knock me down with a feather!

Congrats Watts :afro: excellent news.
Was that from Martins?

I’d had a scroll down through available cars just last night on VW’s used cars website and had wondered if that was the one you’d looked at. I only ended up there after the talk of a TCR on Belvederes yesterday to see how they looked.
I had a quick scan through the white ones for that reason and then a look at red TCR’s with you in mind!   :grin:
The black and white scheme works really well (not biased at all  :whistle: ) and the Oryx will look amazing in sunlight  :cool:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 06 February 2020, 19:28
Deal done, deposit paid, collection on Tuesday.... :whistle:

Knock me down with a feather!

Congrats Watts :afro: excellent news.
Was that from Martins?

I’d had a scroll down through available cars just last night on VW’s used cars website and had wondered if that was the one you’d looked at. I only ended up there after the talk of a TCR on Belvederes yesterday to see how they looked.
I had a quick scan through the white ones for that reason and then a look at red TCR’s with you in mind!   :grin:
The black and white scheme works really well (not biased at all  :whistle: ) and the Oryx will look amazing in sunlight  :cool:

You could definitely knock me down with a feather! My wallet is going to be out of bounds now for years! :rolleyes:

Yes, it is the one from Martins, the Oryx was rather nice and as much as I love TR, I needed a new car to be different. It's very unusual for me to buy the same car twice! Just hope I don't regret it, but I just fancied a TCR so why not?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Andy198 on 06 February 2020, 19:40
Congratulations! I’m looking forward to some pics as well please when you have time. Cheers
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 06 February 2020, 19:44
@Watts; well done for taking that leap of faith. Oryx White does look good, especially when it’s sunny weather. :cool:

Enjoy your new car when you get it - assume you’ll be getting it in the next few days. Be sure to put some pictures up on the forum.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 06 February 2020, 20:16
There's just something very wrong with getting a new performance VW and not having to wait an eternity for it. :whistle:

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 06 February 2020, 20:26
Congratulations! I’m looking forward to some pics as well please when you have time. Cheers

Cheers :smiley: Don't worry, I'll be boring you all for years to come with post wash, holiday and any other occasion pictures!

@Watts; well done for taking that leap of faith. Oryx White does look good, especially when it’s sunny weather. :cool:

Enjoy your new car when you get it - assume you’ll be getting it in the next few days. Be sure to put some pictures up on the forum.

Cheers SR, pick up on Tuesday.

There's just something very wrong with getting a new performance VW and not having to wait an eternity for it. :whistle:

Very true, but as I'm on leave from work after tomorrow it's going to feel an age even if it's not!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mistac on 06 February 2020, 21:25
Deal done, deposit paid, collection on Tuesday.... :whistle:

And don't forget the most important thing, a couple of pictures of your new pride and joy!  :smiley: :smiley:
by coincidence I saw my first one (on the road) today - 69 plate so presumably akrapovic as it was a poppin and bangin
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 06 February 2020, 21:39
Deal done, deposit paid, collection on Tuesday.... :whistle:

And don't forget the most important thing, a couple of pictures of your new pride and joy!  :smiley: :smiley:
by coincidence I saw my first one (on the road) today - 69 plate so presumably akrapovic as it was a poppin and bangin

 :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 February 2020, 21:49
There's just something very wrong with getting a new performance VW and not having to wait an eternity for it. :whistle:
tell me about it 😂
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Zermatt on 06 February 2020, 22:04
Congratulations, Sounds a great spec.... looking forward to hearing all about it and how it compares to your Mk7.

Good Luck with it 👍

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 07 February 2020, 05:37
I've gone for a 19 plate 5dr, Oryx white with Reifnitz and a sunroof.
Congratulations!!  Excellent choice of colour :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: dean5125 on 07 February 2020, 07:57

Congratulations on the new motor Watts.....

Begs the question of what will get talked about on this thread now the "will he, won't he" has been answered?!! :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 07 February 2020, 09:20
Well done Watts on your TCR purchase.

It's not what I expected, compared to the spec of your current GTi?

Variety is the spice of life, a change is as good as a rest....... etc......:)

Hope you enjoy collection day, look forward to your driving impressions.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: jv on 07 February 2020, 09:37
3drRed4life?!  :shocked:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 07 February 2020, 15:28
Congratulations, Sounds a great spec.... looking forward to hearing all about it and how it compares to your Mk7.

Good Luck with it 👍

Cheers! No doubt I'll be waffling on about it :rolleyes:

Congratulations!!  Excellent choice of colour :smiley:

Cheers! Yes, I do like a metallic.

Well done Watts on your TCR purchase.

It's not what I expected, compared to the spec of your current GTi?

Variety is the spice of life, a change is as good as a rest....... etc......:)

Hope you enjoy collection day, look forward to your driving impressions.

Cheers! It has been playing on my mind a lot going to the dark side (5 door non TR), but I just can't repeat a car, it's a big outlay so the intention (for which I reserve the right to change my mind without notice) is to keep this one for a good few years so it had to be different or I'll get itchy feet...

3drRed4life?!  :shocked:

Nothing is for life, apart from bills and taxation :rolleyes: :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: dean5125 on 07 February 2020, 15:33
3drRed4life?!  :shocked:

I'm sure it will have a few more happy owners in it's life.... Watts is just sharing the love!!! :wink:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 07 February 2020, 18:42
Fantastic colour. Really pops in the sun. Was so close to closing it but went for the grey as it was the signature colour (and liked it equally as much).

Sure you will be happy with the move!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 07 February 2020, 20:21
Deal done, deposit paid, collection on Tuesday.... :whistle:

Knock me down with a feather!

Congrats Watts :afro: excellent news.
Was that from Martins?

I’d had a scroll down through available cars just last night on VW’s used cars website and had wondered if that was the one you’d looked at. I only ended up there after the talk of a TCR on Belvederes yesterday to see how they looked.
I had a quick scan through the white ones for that reason and then a look at red TCR’s with you in mind!   :grin:
The black and white scheme works really well (not biased at all  :whistle: ) and the Oryx will look amazing in sunlight  :cool:

You could definitely knock me down with a feather! My wallet is going to be out of bounds now for years! :rolleyes:

Yes, it is the one from Martins, the Oryx was rather nice and as much as I love TR, I needed a new car to be different. It's very unusual for me to buy the same car twice! Just hope I don't regret it, but I just fancied a TCR so why not?t

The Oryx TCR was a really good price for the spec. Can’t wait to see more pics of it and your initial thoughts after the usual new car adjustment time.

There are so many differences to the red GTI it’ll feel like a very different car in quite a few ways. Lots of gizmos to get to grips with.
Even moving from a white 5 door manual Ed40 to a white five door TCR it feels familiar and yet very different.
I’d got a bit lazy with the DSG and DCC making life too easy, but spurred on by clubsport I’ve been experimenting a bit these last few days.

Really looking forward to your post pick up posts. 
I sure hope you have no regrets long term.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Paul70 on 07 February 2020, 22:06

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Even moving from a white 5 door manual Ed40 to a white five door TCR it feels familiar and yet very different.
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Exonian would you mind explaining this in a bit more detail? I am torn at the moment and pondering changing to a TCR so would appreciate your view of the differences after a few months ownership, as I am close to changing from an ED40 to a TCR and you’ve been on a similar journey.

My rational
I would prefer 5 doors rather than 3
I am growing to like DSG after driving my partners Polo GTI
Every time I get in my ED40 it seems a bit dated - love the interior of the TCR
VW made a few compromises with the ED40, interior lighting, armrest, limited chassis mods and smaller exhaust which frustrate me and do not think this applies to the TCR.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 08 February 2020, 11:46

Quote
Even moving from a white 5 door manual Ed40 to a white five door TCR it feels familiar and yet very different.

Exonian would you mind explaining this in a bit more detail? I am torn at the moment and pondering changing to a TCR so would appreciate your view of the differences after a few months ownership, as I am close to changing from an ED40 to a TCR and you’ve been on a similar journey.

My rational
I would prefer 5 doors rather than 3
I am growing to like DSG after driving my partners Polo GTI
Every time I get in my ED40 it seems a bit dated - love the interior of the TCR
VW made a few compromises with the ED40, interior lighting, armrest, limited chassis mods and smaller exhaust which frustrate me and do not think this applies to the TCR.

You’ll never find any financial justification and I’d expect the CS to hold value better but the TCR has touches that make it feel quite different depending on spec.

If going five door DSG with DCC Ed40 to similar spec TCR then I’d say keep the former as it looks far more unique and means something to more people. The Ed40 is a fantastic car and the TCR only beats it in details.

Moving from a 3 door manual to 5 door DSG will be a significant change. The DSG is a totally different drive and de-skills you in some ways but requires you to learn different techniques for spirited driving which adds to the experience. You soon learn to snick it quickly into Sport gearbox setting for a fast overtake which will change gears far more quickly than you could in manual mode on the paddles. The only shame is not having a separate easy to reach button to quickly put the dampers into Sport on the fly so one can firm up briefly to take a sharp bend or fast roundabout without any roll before going back to Normal for some comfort when back cruising again.

The adaptive LED lights are a huge step up from the Xenons which I never thought as good on a mk7 as a mk6.

The fluffy steering wheel in the Ed40 was always a nice touch but also feels synthetic. I like the dimpled leather of the TCR ‘wheel more.

I didn’t have CS buckets so standard seats to standard seats it’s all about the centre section cloth difference which adds colour to the interior. I’ve grown really fond of it, and despite not missing the interior ambient lighting on the Ed40 it’s nice to have it back!

Performance is harder to quantify because of the different gearbox.
Clutch slip hampers the DSG annoyingly at lower speeds but under WOT it comes into its own.
Manual is more intuitive and involving and DSG more ‘on/off’ but I’ve warmed to the dual clutch semi-auto as a different entity. 

The three door mk7 looks really good and my PP was a 3 door.
The smaller doors of the 5 door are much better in use and currently having a back back it’s much less painful not having to contort to reach the seatbelt or squeeze out in a tight parking space.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Paul70 on 08 February 2020, 12:56
Thanks Exonian for taking the time to comment, some really good points.

Just need to drive one and make a decision whether to keep the CS and tweak it a little more or go for the TCR.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 08 February 2020, 13:50
Thanks Exonian for taking the time to comment, some really good points.

Just need to drive one and make a decision whether to keep the CS and tweak it a little more or go for the TCR.

A pleasure  :smiley:

Much of it depends if you’d be tempted by a Mk8 (or something else) in a year or so.
It’d cost a lot to change from the Ed40 to a TCR which would in turn depreciate a lot more for the first three years or so.
Fine if you planned it as a long termer but maybe not so good if you’d move it on after a short time.
Money ploughed into the Ed40 would be partly recovered if you stripped it back to standard before selling it all on when the time came.

A TCR takes more than one road test to appreciate the qualities. Many aren’t obvious until you’ve spent a bit of time familiarising yourself.
Where you would perhaps spend money tuning a manual CS to offset the power deficit against a TCR (ignoring overboost) you’d find the DSG in Sport mode goes like a rocket and is more than adequate for UK roads. I overtook a geriatric in a Corsa yesterday and the car accelerated more quickly than my brain could process hustling a tuned Ed40 with a manual gearbox I reckon. Mind you I am getting old myself!!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Paul70 on 08 February 2020, 15:11
From what I’ve seen if the MK8 they will have to do something pretty special in GTI guise but read that it will be showcased at Geneva next month so perhaps worth a wait.

I’ve lost my enthusiasm for doing significant mods, a few tweaks here and there can make a huge difference and as you say you can burn thousands on modding and unless you track the car you are rarely in a position to utilise the improvement. In the summer I  changed to Cup 2s and once up to a reasonable temperature the mechanical grip was fantastic but in normal driving the PS4 would be better. They also highlight sloppiness in the chassis. A pair and SuperPro LCAs, engine mounts and roll bars would sort that out but you’ve already spent north of 2K and that’s before brakes, clutch, exhaust and tune.

I am more in favour of a TCR perhaps with a JB4 and an updated rear ARB sounds like a plan.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 09 February 2020, 13:49
From what I’ve seen if the MK8 they will have to do something pretty special in GTI guise but read that it will be showcased at Geneva next month so perhaps worth a wait.

I’ve lost my enthusiasm for doing significant mods, a few tweaks here and there can make a huge difference and as you say you can burn thousands on modding and unless you track the car you are rarely in a position to utilise the improvement. In the summer I  changed to Cup 2s and once up to a reasonable temperature the mechanical grip was fantastic but in normal driving the PS4 would be better. They also highlight sloppiness in the chassis. A pair and SuperPro LCAs, engine mounts and roll bars would sort that out but you’ve already spent north of 2K and that’s before brakes, clutch, exhaust and tune.

I am more in favour of a TCR perhaps with a JB4 and an updated rear ARB sounds like a plan.

I’ve been running DCC in Sport for the last few days and am gradually getting used to the jiggly ride and being ultra cautious of potholes (the latter very difficult!) and it certainly firms things up a lot.
Gone is that typical GTI wallow (which the R didn’t suffer) on initial turn in on certain bends and roundabouts. A RARB and dampers set to Sport would make the chassis very good for fast road use without completely wrecking the ride quality. The dampers in Sport mode remind me of Bilstein or Konis fitted to GTI’s I had decades ago, very firm but not totally crashy, you’re very aware of the road surface.

I kept my old JB1, which I’d planned selling previously, just in case I get the urge to turn it into a JB4 at some point to add a bit more spice to the engine, no rush for that though.

As for the mk8, I guess we’ll all get used to the looks and slowly be able to palette it but that’ll take time. I’ve not seen a single review of the next gen Golf, A3, Leon or Octavia that points to an improvement of significance in any area.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Talk-torque on 09 February 2020, 16:49
No, I think VW lost heart with the Mk8 when they realised the speed of EV development would have to be much faster. The Mk8s were, at one time, 48v hybrids, but all that went with the bringing forward of the ID3 program. The Mk8 has become a stop gap car. 😕
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: turnipandchips on 11 February 2020, 19:29
Thought it about time I posted some pictures of mine, I lasted about 3 weeks before the stickers had to come off.

(https://i.postimg.cc/2670Wv1V/20200207-145254.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YGjNKvfH)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Dzq6VsdB/20200207-145328.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/06yDDz4w)
(https://i.postimg.cc/tRr5H9WQ/20200207-145404.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fk9Xcn8B)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Gp1PjtwY/20200207-155015.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G4qsLcph)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 11 February 2020, 19:38
So nice  :cool: especially with the exhaust!

Red looks great when polished up and goes great with the black wheels etc. Looks amazing.

Think it was the right decision to lose the decals. I think they are OK on the gray but not so much on the other colours. I would have preferred them to be just of colour from the car colour so only noticeable in certain lights/angles.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: turnipandchips on 11 February 2020, 19:43
So nice  :cool: especially with the exhaust!

Red looks great when polished up and goes great with the black wheels etc. Looks amazing.

Think it was the right decision to lose the decals. I think they are OK on the gray but not so much on the other colours. I would have preferred them to be just of colour from the car colour so only noticeable in certain lights/angles.

Cheers, very happy with it...I was having that exact conversation about the black on the grey, almost everyone I asked what they thought of the graphics didn't like them. with the black roof and black trim the graphics just felt too much.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: TDI-line on 11 February 2020, 19:43
Very nice.  :cool:

How did you manage to remove those honeycomb stickers? Or are they just two large stickers?

Thanks.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 11 February 2020, 19:46
So nice  :cool: especially with the exhaust!

Red looks great when polished up and goes great with the black wheels etc. Looks amazing.

Think it was the right decision to lose the decals. I think they are OK on the gray but not so much on the other colours. I would have preferred them to be just of colour from the car colour so only noticeable in certain lights/angles.

Cheers, very happy with it...I was having that exact conversation about the black on the grey, almost everyone I asked what they thought of the graphics didn't like them. with the black roof and black trim the graphics just felt too much.

Looks good, and agree with @CookieMonsterGTI, much better without the side decals. Tornado Red with black wheels is a good combination.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 11 February 2020, 20:01
Very, very nice turnipandchips, mind you I quite liked the graphics :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 11 February 2020, 20:03
Lovely TCR turnipandchips.
The black and red always a great combo :afro:

I also agree with CookieMonster about the decals and how much better they’d have looked being close to body colour, I’m sure they’d be far better received that way.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: turnipandchips on 11 February 2020, 21:05
Very nice.  :cool:

How did you manage to remove those honeycomb stickers? Or are they just two large stickers?

Thanks.
Individual stickers, I got a hairdryer on them to soften up the glue then peeled off quite easily, maybe an hour or so to get them all off.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: turnipandchips on 11 February 2020, 21:11
Very, very nice turnipandchips, mind you I quite liked the graphics :laugh:
Thank you, I kept an open mind when I got the car but they had to go, was always the main talking point when I showed people the new car. I'm 44 as well so did feel a little too midlife crisis. haha (all in my humble opinion of course).
 
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 12 February 2020, 08:54
The decals looked alright on the grey TCR they used for the promo shots.... on your TR they looked bloody terrible.

What did VW charge for that option? Wasn't it something like £500 - being the tight Yorkshireman that I am, I'd be grumbling with every one removed  :grin:

If you ever feel like you want to repeat the mistake, or anyone else that wants to upgrade their Golf Match, I just found this on Ebay:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-TCR-Honeycomb-Side-decals-graphics-Kit-3-DOOR-KIT-Mk7-MK7-5-Mk8-GTI-GTD-/123700139345

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: turnipandchips on 12 February 2020, 09:42
The decals looked alright on the grey TCR they used for the promo shots.... on your TR they looked bloody terrible.

What did VW charge for that option? Wasn't it something like £500 - being the tight Yorkshireman that I am, I'd be grumbling with every one removed  :grin:

If you ever feel like you want to repeat the mistake, or anyone else that wants to upgrade their Golf Match, I just found this on Ebay:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-TCR-Honeycomb-Side-decals-graphics-Kit-3-DOOR-KIT-Mk7-MK7-5-Mk8-GTI-GTD-/123700139345

Mine was an unregistered stock car, so it already had them on so didn't "directly" pay for them, I wouldn't have spec'd them at £500.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 12 February 2020, 11:18
The decals looked alright on the grey TCR they used for the promo shots.... on your TR they looked bloody terrible.

What did VW charge for that option? Wasn't it something like £500 - being the tight Yorkshireman that I am, I'd be grumbling with every one removed  :grin:

If you ever feel like you want to repeat the mistake, or anyone else that wants to upgrade their Golf Match, I just found this on Ebay:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-TCR-Honeycomb-Side-decals-graphics-Kit-3-DOOR-KIT-Mk7-MK7-5-Mk8-GTI-GTD-/123700139345

Actually liked the blended grey graphic on the pure grey as more subtle, and would have had them if standard, but its not something you pay for, let alone at £500

Love walking up to my TCR, the styling hits my own personal point of satisfaction, none of the additions being over the top and gaudy, the black and grey offsets perfectly creating a really nice stealthy stance.

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 12 February 2020, 11:23
Love walking up to my TCR, the styling hits my own personal point of satisfaction, none of the additions being over the top and gaudy, the black and grey offsets perfectly creating a really nice stealthy stance.

TBH the Mk7 has been missing the flat grey colour for years. I've always wanted that colour.... to the point of even looking at a TCR largely because of it and despite it being a run out model.

I think it looks fantastic in grey with the black trims and wheels - VW should have realised this a long old time ago - the grey trend is hardly new, Audi and Skoda have done it for years now.

I never understand VW's choice of colours for the Golf - its totally at odds with the enthusiast base. I get why they might not want every Golf in strange colours, but why not chuck a couple into the mix. It's one of the few "normal" cars with an absolute hardcore following.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 12 February 2020, 20:12
Love walking up to my TCR, the styling hits my own personal point of satisfaction, none of the additions being over the top and gaudy, the black and grey offsets perfectly creating a really nice stealthy stance.

TBH the Mk7 has been missing the flat grey colour for years. I've always wanted that colour.... to the point of even looking at a TCR largely because of it and despite it being a run out model.

I think it looks fantastic in grey with the black trims and wheels - VW should have realised this a long old time ago - the grey trend is hardly new, Audi and Skoda have done it for years now.

I never understand VW's choice of colours for the Golf - its totally at odds with the enthusiast base. I get why they might not want every Golf in strange colours, but why not chuck a couple into the mix. It's one of the few "normal" cars with an absolute hardcore following.

The flat grey was the one thing that turned my head about the TCR.
In my previous house the guy across the road had an Octavia vRS in that shade and I always admired it.
Plus was always a fan of Nardo on RS3’s.
And not just because it matches my hair!  :grin:


Still, I ended up with my umpteenth white Golf and still thibk it suits the MK7 perfectly.
Maybe a Pure Grey ID.3 R one day...  :whistle:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 16 February 2020, 17:44
Just got home after my weekend away for my Mum's big birthday. About a 3 hour drive each way and although it was mostly steady motorway/A roads I have to say I'm settling in very nicely with my TCR already. The pedalbox has definitely helped smooth out the pulling away although it still needs a bit of fine tuning, just a little less immediacy required but I much prefer the delicate approach to the throttle than a lead foot.

There's a bit more menace compared with my old PP, the engine sounds more purposeful even with a light throttle, not sure how much of that is the soundaktor as I have that on Eco, but it is a good noise. It picks up well and with what few opportunities I had, seems to hold on well although there was an incident of lack of grip in the rain today turning on to the slip road to join the M11 from services, wasn't pushing it so was a little surprised at that (also had one other incident of wheelspin in the wet at a throttle level that I didn't think unreasonable). I found the PS4S to be better in the rain so may swap to those once the Pirellis have worn out.

I'm getting to grips with the DSG, it does seem to want to drop a gear or two where I wouldn't in the manual but I suppose the ratios are different so I just need to stop thinking about it and let it do what it wants. So far it's just been in D and that seems just right. It is a very comfortable and smooth drive, perfect for long journeys.

The stop-start system is a bit pants after my manual PP, it's very difficult to get it to stop the engine and on checking the system status it says it's available :rolleyes: Then it'll cut the engine before I stop only to start it again when I do stop?! But when it does work it's fine so I'll leave it on. The digital dash is good, I like having the sat nav in the middle, much better, the fuel guage could do with being a bit clearer but overall, pretty good.

So overall I'm finding the TCR a very worthwhile upgrade to my MK7PP, very pleased with it and I think we have many years of great driving ahead of us. I just need to get to some better A/B roads where I can have some fun with it :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: jf111 on 17 February 2020, 21:56
stuff

Thanks for that post. Really interesting to hear as I'll be in the same position soon. I think I'll be way more impressed coming from a Fiesta ST than you are from a GTI PP which is (essentially) the same car with some tweaks. Are you still running it in or just going for it?

Regarding the wheelspin, I'm not surprised with the power on tap! Probably to do with the tyres though as you suggest. As a side note, in every FWD performance car I've had, people have raved about dogbone mount or lower engine mount replacements, may be something to try? Not sure if it's applicable to cars with DSG.

Also, what is "the pedalbox"?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Splashalot on 17 February 2020, 23:03
stuff

Also, what is "the pedalbox"?

Oh-oh......
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: dean5125 on 18 February 2020, 08:25
stuff

Also, what is "the pedalbox"?

Oh-oh......

I suppose you don't know what you don't know!! :grin:

I'm guessing you're new to the forum (welcome if so?) coming from an ST and trust me if you'd been here for a while there is no way you wouldn't know what a pedal box is by now..... search it, it's quite heavily discussed to put it mildly!!! :laugh:

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Yusee on 18 February 2020, 09:32
stuff

Also, what is "the pedalbox"?

Oh-oh......

I suppose you don't know what you don't know!! :grin:

I'm guessing you're new to the forum (welcome if so?) coming from an ST and trust me if you'd been here for a while there is no way you wouldn't know what a peddle box is by now..... search it, it's quite heavily discussed to put it mildly!!! :laugh:

Peddle box or pedal box? Probably both :whistle:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: dean5125 on 18 February 2020, 11:17
stuff

Also, what is "the pedalbox"?

Oh-oh......


I suppose you don't know what you don't know!! :grin:

I'm guessing you're new to the forum (welcome if so?) coming from an ST and trust me if you'd been here for a while there is no way you wouldn't know what a peddle box is by now..... search it, it's quite heavily discussed to put it mildly!!! :laugh:

Peddle box or pedal box? Probably both :whistle:

 :grin: :grin: :grin: DOH!!! The amount of times I've read that I really should know how to spell it, I can't really even blame spell checker!! :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: dean5125 on 18 February 2020, 11:20
stuff

Also, what is "the pedalbox"?

Oh-oh......

I suppose you don't know what you don't know!! :grin:

I'm guessing you're new to the forum (welcome if so?) coming from an ST and trust me if you'd been here for a while there is no way you wouldn't know what a pedal box is by now..... search it, it's quite heavily discussed to put it mildly!!! :laugh:

Peddle box or pedal box? Probably both :whistle:

I don't know what you're on about?!? :wink:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 18 February 2020, 14:48
stuff

Thanks for that post. Really interesting to hear as I'll be in the same position soon. I think I'll be way more impressed coming from a Fiesta ST than you are from a GTI PP which is (essentially) the same car with some tweaks. Are you still running it in or just going for it?

Regarding the wheelspin, I'm not surprised with the power on tap! Probably to do with the tyres though as you suggest. As a side note, in every FWD performance car I've had, people have raved about dogbone mount or lower engine mount replacements, may be something to try? Not sure if it's applicable to cars with DSG.

Also, what is "the pedalbox"?

I've not driven the Fiesta ST but I'd be surprised if you aren't impressed by the TCR, really enjoying mine :smiley: Haven't yet found a decent road to really give it a workout on but it does pick up very smartly and feels strong.

What spec have you gone for?

I'm going to keep this car pretty standard I think so no messing with mounts but I have made a small adjustment to the pedalbox today so hopefully that'll tame it's slight over eagerness!

The pedalbox plugs in to the throttle pedal and adjusts the signal with various settings. It can cause a bit of lively discussion as alluded to by the posters above :laugh:, some swear by it, others swear about it! It's a bit like the sport button which sharpens the throttle response only moreso. Here's the most recent discussion - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=286146.0 but there are lots of others!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 18 February 2020, 15:03
If you want to see opinions on pedal boxes in a statistical way....

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=286173.0
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 19 February 2020, 05:32
Just got home after my weekend away for my Mum's big birthday. About a 3 hour drive each way and although it was mostly steady motorway/A roads I have to say I'm settling in very nicely with my TCR already. The pedalbox has definitely helped smooth out the pulling away although it still needs a bit of fine tuning, just a little less immediacy required but I much prefer the delicate approach to the throttle than a lead foot.

There's a bit more menace compared with my old PP, the engine sounds more purposeful even with a light throttle, not sure how much of that is the soundaktor as I have that on Eco, but it is a good noise. It picks up well and with what few opportunities I had, seems to hold on well although there was an incident of lack of grip in the rain today turning on to the slip road to join the M11 from services, wasn't pushing it so was a little surprised at that (also had one other incident of wheelspin in the wet at a throttle level that I didn't think unreasonable). I found the PS4S to be better in the rain so may swap to those once the Pirellis have worn out.

I'm getting to grips with the DSG, it does seem to want to drop a gear or two where I wouldn't in the manual but I suppose the ratios are different so I just need to stop thinking about it and let it do what it wants. So far it's just been in D and that seems just right. It is a very comfortable and smooth drive, perfect for long journeys.

The stop-start system is a bit pants after my manual PP, it's very difficult to get it to stop the engine and on checking the system status it says it's available :rolleyes: Then it'll cut the engine before I stop only to start it again when I do stop?! But when it does work it's fine so I'll leave it on. The digital dash is good, I like having the sat nav in the middle, much better, the fuel guage could do with being a bit clearer but overall, pretty good.

So overall I'm finding the TCR a very worthwhile upgrade to my MK7PP, very pleased with it and I think we have many years of great driving ahead of us. I just need to get to some better A/B roads where I can have some fun with it :smiley:

A belated happy birthday to your mum Watts  :smiley:

Good to see you’re enjoying the new toy. God knows how you get 40mpg though! Even when I dawdle I don’t get near that at this time of year.

I’ve played around with suspension and gearbox settings and have decided VW’s happy medium is indeed the happy medium, so dampers in Normal and gearbox in D and just enjoy the bends and swoops of the roads.
Too many choices just over complicate a simple task. I like simple.

My stop start is exactly like yours. Erratic and unpredictable at times.
Either sat straining against the auto-hold for no reason, or cuts out too early, or cuts out when slowing then restarts the engine once the vehicle stops. Odd!
I just class it as a foible that’s part of the car’s character.


My son announced out of the blue on Friday he’d bought a house about 40 miles away  :rolleyes: so always open to a bit of adventure I braved the winds, mudslides, fallen trees and floods, taking the back roads to go have a nose at it on Saturday evening amidst Storm Dennis
All good fun. The TCR took it in its stride like any other Golf would. When Mother Nature is in a bad mood it copes just fine, and when the sun shines and the traffic buggers off it goes like a scalded cat.
I’ve never seen so many large potholes as this winter and it’s becoming impossible to avoid them all so it wouldn’t surprise me if all my wheels are 50p shaped by now!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 19 February 2020, 19:17
A belated happy birthday to your mum Watts  :smiley:

Good to see you’re enjoying the new toy. God knows how you get 40mpg though! Even when I dawdle I don’t get near that at this time of year.

I’ve played around with suspension and gearbox settings and have decided VW’s happy medium is indeed the happy medium, so dampers in Normal and gearbox in D and just enjoy the bends and swoops of the roads.
Too many choices just over complicate a simple task. I like simple.

My stop start is exactly like yours. Erratic and unpredictable at times.
Either sat straining against the auto-hold for no reason, or cuts out too early, or cuts out when slowing then restarts the engine once the vehicle stops. Odd!
I just class it as a foible that’s part of the car’s character.


My son announced out of the blue on Friday he’d bought a house about 40 miles away  :rolleyes: so always open to a bit of adventure I braved the winds, mudslides, fallen trees and floods, taking the back roads to go have a nose at it on Saturday evening amidst Storm Dennis
All good fun. The TCR took it in its stride like any other Golf would. When Mother Nature is in a bad mood it copes just fine, and when the sun shines and the traffic buggers off it goes like a scalded cat.
I’ve never seen so many large potholes as this winter and it’s becoming impossible to avoid them all so it wouldn’t surprise me if all my wheels are 50p shaped by now!

Cheers Exonian, she had a lovely time!

I don't recall mentioning economy but spookily you are spot on! 41 on the way there but 36 on the return. There's a lot of 50-60 A road driving so it's usually a good economy drive, the PP would've been 40-45 so a bit better but I'm not too bothered, nearly 40mpg with the performance available is amazing so more than happy :smiley:

Getting to grips more with the stop/start system, the manual said to keep your foot on the brake when stopped and the engine will stop, and it worked! So, much better now.

We seem to view things similarily, I too prefer simplicity and I'm running it in Individual with most on Normal and engine sound in Eco, works really well. I had a town drive from near to hell today, lots of traffic, 20mph limit most of the time which I mostly failed to achieve and yet, calm prevailed. This is one key area I knew the DSG would excel at and it didn't fail me, brilliant!

Tomorrow I'm off to meet clubsport from this forum to deliver some parts that he wants, hopefully we'll have a go on some good roads but at the very least, I'll get to drool all over his rather lovely red CS :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 20 February 2020, 00:19
What mpg? Wow, a 50mile round trip steady motorway often with variable limit and saw my best ever mpg of 37. My long term is 33 to 27 depending on the app, based on about 4 different mileage and driving hour durations. Probably about right asa lot are short runs, interspersed with bigger ones to ‘give it a run out’
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 20 February 2020, 08:54
What mpg? Wow, a 50mile round trip steady motorway often with variable limit and saw my best ever mpg of 37. My long term is 33 to 27 depending on the app, based on about 4 different mileage and driving hour durations. Probably about right asa lot are short runs, interspersed with bigger ones to ‘give it a run out’

My 5 mile commute at this time of year in the PP was normally around 33mpg but could drop into the high 20s if it was especially cold. My TCR is doing 27-31 mostly though yesterday's run back through Kingston in rush hour was about 24, I thought that was pretty good. I'm interested to see what it can do but I didn't buy it with economy in mind!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Hertsman on 20 February 2020, 08:55
My long term (after its first reset) average is 32 MPG but have been doing shorter distances recently and tending to keep it in Sport given the shorter runs - However, on my trip to Manchester the economy did hit the 40 MPG mark on way out and was 38 MPG on way back

As a ballpark I think its working out roughly 5 MPG more economical than my R - Seem to be putting about £30-£40 less fuel in a month than R
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Rimp on 20 February 2020, 12:01
Hi guys, my first post in this forum. I had a flick through this thread but forgive me for not reading all 130+ pages.

I ordered a TCR back in December and was given an expected delivery time around the end of March 2020. (first time ordering a car from new) I downloaded that My VW app which states the order is with the factory but hasn't given me a confirmed build week yet. I dropped the dealership an email double checking they hadn't heard about delays etc and was told they hadn't heard of anything and that they expected my build week to be mid March.

I heard a rumour that the dynaudio systems were in short supply but other than that nothing. I was half expecting to have at least heard of an estimated build week by now?

Am I just being impatient or do you guys think that in order to pick the car up end of march I should have heard more progress by now? again this is the first time I've gone through this process so I'm unfamiliar with the timescales involved.

I currently live and work in Lisbon, Portugal but I'm transferring back to the UK at the end of March so the original timing would have been perfect for me.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 February 2020, 12:10
I ordered my TCR on the 5th January and nearly seven weeks later it's still sitting with the factory. This is the third new VW I've ordered in recent years and the information is as bad if not worse than ever. The response from VW UK who should know more than my supplying dealer is to ask me to contact my dealer 😀. The only issue I've got is if the car is registered after 1st April I'll have to pay an extra 300 odd quid on first registration due to wltp tax changes. VW will be paying that because I'm not! If they can't supply a car within 12 weeks or so when BMW can within 8 is beyond me. I've got Dynaudio in my TCR so if that is the issue then surely VW UK would know this.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Rimp on 20 February 2020, 12:26
Yeh my order was put in on 19th December so I'm currently at 9 weeks. I'm not so much angry if it is a bit delayed its the fact that I don't know any information.

I spec'ed Dynaudio, Climate Windscreen, 90% tints and Pretoria wheels.

I still have an old Corolla Tsport at home which I can use so I wont have to buy another car to use while I wait but would still have been nice to have it for when I get back into the country
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 February 2020, 12:32
I'm in with Dynaudio, climate screen and DCC in pure grey. I waited nearly 24ish weeks in 2013 for a mk gtd so you'd think I'd be used to it 😂
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mistac on 20 February 2020, 13:29
I ordered my TCR on the 5th January and nearly seven weeks later it's still sitting with the factory. This is the third new VW I've ordered in recent years and the information is as bad if not worse than ever. The response from VW UK who should know more than my supplying dealer is to ask me to contact my dealer 😀. The only issue I've got is if the car is registered after 1st April I'll have to pay an extra 300 odd quid on first registration due to wltp tax changes. VW will be paying that because I'm not! If they can't supply a car within 12 weeks or so when BMW can within 8 is beyond me. I've got Dynaudio in my TCR so if that is the issue then surely VW UK would know this.

Although I am hopefully getting mine (GTI) during March, do these new rules affect all motorists or just company car drivers?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 February 2020, 13:44
Everyone. 1st April for private buyers and 6th April for company car drivers.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Rimp on 20 February 2020, 14:01
I'm in with Dynaudio, climate screen and DCC in pure grey. I waited nearly 24ish weeks in 2013 for a mk gtd so you'd think I'd be used to it 😂

you didn't happen to use Pulman VW on Newcastle Road did you McMaddy? I've just realised we will be pretty close geographically
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 February 2020, 15:01
I have bought from them previously and then Durham but my current and this new car are from VW Northallerton. Pulman just weren't anywhere near on the figures I've got from Northallerton and didn't show any effort too either. What colour have you gone for? Whereabouts are you? Pm me if you don't want to share forum wide  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mistac on 20 February 2020, 18:31
Everyone. 1st April for private buyers and 6th April for company car drivers.
Thanks - despite googling this, there does not seem to be a lot of clear info and what I can find seems to be aimed more at business/company users - I am a normal person though :grin: :grin:

My GTI order details say

CO2 emissions
CO2 emissions (NEDC): 143 g/km*
CO2 emissions (WLTP): 169.8 g/km*

Assuming I pick up before 1.4.20 I assume my vehicle will be taxed on the 143 figure, but if I collect from 1.4.20 onwards what would the additional tax be compared to pre 1.4.20 and who is responsible for any increase? Do these new rates only affect the first/initial year?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 20 February 2020, 18:53
Everyone. 1st April for private buyers and 6th April for company car drivers.
Thanks - despite googling this, there does not seem to be a lot of clear info and what I can find seems to be aimed more at business/company users - I am a normal person though :grin: :grin:

My GTI order details say

CO2 emissions
CO2 emissions (NEDC): 143 g/km*
CO2 emissions (WLTP): 169.8 g/km*

Assuming I pick up before 1.4.20 I assume my vehicle will be taxed on the 143 figure, but if I collect from 1.4.20 onwards what would the additional tax be compared to pre 1.4.20 and who is responsible for any increase? Do these new rates only affect the first/initial year?

Based on those CO2 figures, for a petrol engines car first year VED rates;
- before 01/04/2020; £210
- on or after 01/04/2020; £530

Second year and subsequent years; current VED rate is a flat £145 (increases each year - was £140 last year) irrespective of CO2 emissions. The exception is if the list price of the car exceeds £40k, in which case there’s an additional VED charge on top of the £145 for five years from the start of year 2; this additional VED charge I think is £320. From year seven, VED reverts back to the lower (currently £145) amount.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 20 February 2020, 19:05
Who is responsible for the increase? If you mean who pays it, it's you. The dealer supplies the vehicle, you pay the tax. If it changes between order and delivery, tough luck.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mistac on 20 February 2020, 19:21
Everyone. 1st April for private buyers and 6th April for company car drivers.
Thanks - despite googling this, there does not seem to be a lot of clear info and what I can find seems to be aimed more at business/company users - I am a normal person though :grin: :grin:

My GTI order details say

CO2 emissions
CO2 emissions (NEDC): 143 g/km*
CO2 emissions (WLTP): 169.8 g/km*

Assuming I pick up before 1.4.20 I assume my vehicle will be taxed on the 143 figure, but if I collect from 1.4.20 onwards what would the additional tax be compared to pre 1.4.20 and who is responsible for any increase? Do these new rates only affect the first/initial year?

Based on those CO2 figures, for a petrol engines car first year VED rates;
- before 01/04/2020; £210
- on or after 01/04/2020; £530

Second year and subsequent years; current VED rate is a flat £145 (increases each year - was £140 last year) irrespective of CO2 emissions. The exception is if the list price of the car exceeds £40k, in which case there’s an additional VED charge on top of the £145 for five years from the start of year 2; this additional VED charge I think is £320. From year seven, VED reverts back to the lower (currently £145) amount.

Just spent ages looking at this and cant find any reliable source - where are you getting your info from? I have only managed to find info about changes from Apr 19 onwards (or before) which mentions Apr 20 onwards etc and the info is heavily slanted towards company/business users?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 February 2020, 19:32
https://www.sandicliffe.co.uk/car-road-tax-vehicle-excise-duty-increases-april-2020
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: SRGTD on 20 February 2020, 19:43
https://www.sandicliffe.co.uk/car-road-tax-vehicle-excise-duty-increases-april-2020

Thanks mcmaddy; that’s the info source I used for my post when I replied to mistac.

@mistac; as Fred has said, it’s the buyer who pays the increased VED rate; the dealer won’t be absorbing this additional £320.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 February 2020, 20:04
I'll be trying to avoid paying it in some way even it's just slightly offset by the two services. If VW are so incompetent that they can't deliver a car within 12 or so weeks when other manufacturers can then they can take some of the responsibility if not all. I might and probably will get nowhere but I'll be trying.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 20 February 2020, 20:24
Hi guys, my first post in this forum. I had a flick through this thread but forgive me for not reading all 130+ pages.

I ordered a TCR back in December and was given an expected delivery time around the end of March 2020. (first time ordering a car from new) I downloaded that My VW app which states the order is with the factory but hasn't given me a confirmed build week yet. I dropped the dealership an email double checking they hadn't heard about delays etc and was told they hadn't heard of anything and that they expected my build week to be mid March.

I heard a rumour that the dynaudio systems were in short supply but other than that nothing. I was half expecting to have at least heard of an estimated build week by now?

Am I just being impatient or do you guys think that in order to pick the car up end of march I should have heard more progress by now? again this is the first time I've gone through this process so I'm unfamiliar with the timescales involved.

I currently live and work in Lisbon, Portugal but I'm transferring back to the UK at the end of March so the original timing would have been perfect for me.

I’ve had my car since last June, the My VW app says it’s on stage 6, arrived in country  :grin:

My dealer was really good at updating me on progress, their system has much better info than the app
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 20 February 2020, 22:08
I'll be trying to avoid paying it in some way even it's just slightly offset by the two services. If VW are so incompetent that they can't deliver a car within 12 or so weeks when other manufacturers can then they can take some of the responsibility if not all. I might and probably will get nowhere but I'll be trying.

You'll get nowhere. Vw lead times are four months minimum, six months plus is not unheard of typically. Do others do better? Yes of course. Bmw is four to six weeks.

Should have bought a BMW lol
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mistac on 20 February 2020, 22:16
https://www.sandicliffe.co.uk/car-road-tax-vehicle-excise-duty-increases-april-2020

Thanks mcmaddy; that’s the info source I used for my post when I replied to mistac.

@mistac; as Fred has said, it’s the buyer who pays the increased VED rate; the dealer won’t be absorbing this additional £320.

thanks - so it looks like they are using the current tax year co2 figures/bands and then applying whatever the wltp co2/bands equivalent is and applying to new vehicles from 1.4.20 onwards? - if that makes sense
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Post by: SRGTD on 20 February 2020, 22:24
https://www.sandicliffe.co.uk/car-road-tax-vehicle-excise-duty-increases-april-2020

Thanks mcmaddy; that’s the info source I used for my post when I replied to mistac.

@mistac; as Fred has said, it’s the buyer who pays the increased VED rate; the dealer won’t be absorbing this additional £320.

thanks - so it looks like they are using the current tax year co2 figures/bands and then applying whatever the wltp co2/bands equivalent is and applying to new vehicles from 1.4.20 onwards? - if that makes sense

Yes, that’s my understanding of WLTP-based VED rates from 01/04/2020.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 21 February 2020, 07:47
https://www.sandicliffe.co.uk/car-road-tax-vehicle-excise-duty-increases-april-2020

Thanks mcmaddy; that’s the info source I used for my post when I replied to mistac.

@mistac; as Fred has said, it’s the buyer who pays the increased VED rate; the dealer won’t be absorbing this additional £320.

thanks - so it looks like they are using the current tax year co2 figures/bands and then applying whatever the wltp co2/bands equivalent is and applying to new vehicles from 1.4.20 onwards? - if that makes sense
yes spot on and 6th April (new tax year) for company car drivers.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 21 February 2020, 07:51
I'll be trying to avoid paying it in some way even it's just slightly offset by the two services. If VW are so incompetent that they can't deliver a car within 12 or so weeks when other manufacturers can then they can take some of the responsibility if not all. I might and probably will get nowhere but I'll be trying.

Should have bought a BMW lol
the thought did cross my mind but then the horrible thought of being a BMW tosser driver put me off 😂😂.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 22 February 2020, 09:19
Finally, build week confirmed. Someone remind me again is that confirmed to be built in the next 4 weeks at some point? I might get this before April 1st 🤞
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: fredgroves on 22 February 2020, 11:48
Finally, build week confirmed. Someone remind me again is that confirmed to be built in the next 4 weeks at some point? I might get this before April 1st 🤞

Yes they only plan 4 production weeks in advance - fairly normal in manufacturing.

Then you have the shipping part... which sometimes is lightning fast and sometimes isn't!
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 February 2020, 12:05
Finally, build week confirmed. Someone remind me again is that confirmed to be built in the next 4 weeks at some point? I might get this before April 1st 🤞

4 weeks to build and probably 2 weeks transit. Not looking hopeful for April 1st. If the car gets built at the start of its build week rather than the end, leaves the factory straight away, gets straight onto the train for Emden and then gets straight on a ship without messing around, only sits at Tyne Dock a day to clear customs and gets delivered to the dealership within 2 days (more chance at Tyne than Sheerness or Grimsby)for a same day PDI/next day collection - you might have a chance.

Hopefully VW will be aware of the VED changes and will prioritise shipping to prevent customers getting stung. Most likely they won't give a sh!t and consider it unfortunate timing for the customer if it turns up on the 4th or whatever.

I wonder what the law is for registration? Could the dealership register the car on the 1st if it arrived on UK soil on the 1st, or does it gave to have cleared customs and be at the dealership before they register it?
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Post by: mcmaddy on 22 February 2020, 12:12
Good point that Matt. My Tiguan was registered while it was sitting in Tyne dock but maybe that was because VW cocked that one up  :grin:
They might be able to register pre 1st April but probably won't.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 22 February 2020, 23:45
Bit of an odd one this evening, I saw my car’s doppelgänger literally around the corner from my old house!
There can’t be that many white Reifnitz non-Akra TCR’s about and less still with ALL of the side decals removed. But there it was!
So, if that was anyone here just outside of Exeter parked up on Saturday evening then “hi”

That’s the fourth TCR I’ve seen out in the wilds now excluding mine and dealer demos. Not bad since I don’t get out too much!
One grey with Reifnitz in Exeter.
A grey on Belvederes I used to see on the A379.
A red one in the summer going through Dawlish.
And now a white one too.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 23 February 2020, 12:12
Excepting dealer cars, I've still only seen one, a black 5dr when they first came out. A German registered one. Don't see many MK7/7.5 GTIs around here of any variety. Mostly Rs and GTDs.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: jf111 on 23 February 2020, 13:53
Bit of an odd one this evening, I saw my car’s doppelgänger literally around the corner from my old house!
There can’t be that many white Reifnitz non-Akra TCR’s about and less still with ALL of the side decals removed. But there it was!
So, if that was anyone here just outside of Exeter parked up on Saturday evening then “hi”

That’s the fourth TCR I’ve seen out in the wilds now excluding mine and dealer demos. Not bad since I don’t get out too much!
One grey with Reifnitz in Exeter.
A grey on Belvederes I used to see on the A379.
A red one in the summer going through Dawlish.
And now a white one too.

What did the one on Belvederes look like in real life?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 23 February 2020, 15:01

What did the one on Belvederes look like in real life?

They look fine in real life on the TCR.
I was never keen on them when I ran them in my Clubsport as the rear spoiler made the car look very tall at the rear and needs 19” wheels to balance the visual profile out.

The TCR looks lower due to the small rear spoiler lip, the weird diffuser and the shape of the sculpted side skirts (plus front splitter) which makes the car look more squat than an Ed40.
Therefore the 18’s look perfectly good on it.
The long spokes of the Belvederes which run right to the rim make them look quite big too.

The only criticism I can make of the car running Belvederes applies to all of the factory 7.5J wheels on the mk7 which is they sit much too far into the arches, requiring spacers to look right.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: turnipandchips on 23 February 2020, 16:26
Ive had mine I'm guessing 6 weeks or so, since then I've seen 3 others, all in grey Stamford, Peterborough and Patridge Green.
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Post by: ChrisTCR on 23 February 2020, 16:50
Had mine coming up to 7 months, I've seen one other pure grey and a red one on the road. A local dealership has a white one and a black one for sale.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 23 February 2020, 17:17
The only criticism I can make of the car running Belvederes applies to all of the factory 7.5J wheels on the mk7 which is they sit much too far into the arches, requiring spacers to look right.

The Reifnitz do look really good, quite beefy :smiley:
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Post by: Hertsman on 24 February 2020, 10:18
Had mine since October and still not seen another - Always attract attention, had the trifecta of GTD, GTI and R give an obvious look over just this weekend.

On subject of the wheels, absolutely love the the Reifnitz think they really got these right as a TCR signature rim.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 February 2020, 11:57
Just had confirmation of build week 12 which if my calendar maths is right is w/c 16th March
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 24 February 2020, 12:07
Just had confirmation of build week 12 which if my calendar maths is right is w/c 16th March

What spec did you go for in the end?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 February 2020, 12:57
Just had confirmation of build week 12 which if my calendar maths is right is w/c 16th March

What spec did you go for in the end?
heated screen, Dynaudio and DCC to just creep under the luxury limit  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Rimp on 24 February 2020, 16:42
Just had confirmation of build week 12 which if my calendar maths is right is w/c 16th March

where did this confirmation come from? contact your dealer?
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 February 2020, 18:15
Yes, once the tracker updated on Saturday I emailed the salesman who checked on the system and he came back with week 12. Wonder if yours will be the same 👍
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mistac on 24 February 2020, 20:49
Just had confirmation of build week 12 which if my calendar maths is right is w/c 16th March

What spec did you go for in the end?
heated screen, Dynaudio and DCC to just creep under the luxury limit  :grin:
very nice - that surely must be one of the very last/latter build slots? To think I was panicking about my build week 4 slot!
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 February 2020, 21:21
I would think one of the last, yes. I ordered on the Sunday before the books closed on the Monday or Tuesday tea time. Luckily my dealer put the order though on the Sunday without me paying my deposit (trusting face  :grin:)
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Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 25 February 2020, 14:21
I would think one of the last, yes. I ordered on the Sunday before the books closed on the Monday or Tuesday tea time. Luckily my dealer put the order though on the Sunday without me paying my deposit (trusting face  :grin:)

You might have the last one of the line - champagne and party in Germany for you  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: mcmaddy on 25 February 2020, 15:49
I would think one of the last, yes. I ordered on the Sunday before the books closed on the Monday or Tuesday tea time. Luckily my dealer put the order though on the Sunday without me paying my deposit (trusting face  :grin:)

You might have the last one of the line - champagne and party in Germany for you  :grin:
:grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Rimp on 27 February 2020, 15:44
seeing the videos and media photos of the new Mk8 GTI/GTE/GTD today.... I'm so so glad I ordered a TCR when I did.   
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Post by: mcmaddy on 27 February 2020, 16:28
So am I 👍
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Post by: Exonian on 27 February 2020, 19:39
Curious to see photos from UK dealer social media accounts of dozens of fully built mk8’s ready to be shipped during the Wolfsburg factory UK dealer launch event and yet they’re still building mk7’s! for 20 plate delivery!
Shows how flexible MQB production must be to build them almost side by side.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: robwils on 11 August 2020, 21:32
Given my parking conditions, particularly in winter, dark, tight spaces, high kerbs I have a few nicks on my alloys, and do not bother to refurbish as likely to nick them again at some point, so I just live with them and they not bad enough to spoil the effect, you have trouble seeing damage from any standing distance, I am not that clumsy, but upon close inspection they are obviously there to see.

One hope, with the Reifnitz being a matte finish is that I can do my own spot repairs periodically, so AGB do they look like that would be easy to do if had the correct paint pen?

Also, for those more connected, any idea as to what the code for the reifnitz matte black would be?

They don't look like a difficult wheel to repair and I must say, they're much better looking in the metal than they appear in photographs. I was going to go for another Pretoria wheel but I'm glad that I went with the newer wheel in the end.

Repair is easy, way better than diamond cut. The paint is a standard VAG finish (I have the code) but touching it in versus sanding/filling/priming and spraying is likely to look worse as you'll never match the surface profile with a pen/dabber.

Tyre choices can help minimise damage or take superficial brushes based on the profile of the sidewall. I need to look at the Pirellis on that basis actually - you've given me something to do later.  :smiley:


Hi , realise it’s a while ago but do you have paint code for Reifnitz wheels ?
Mrs has kerbed hers 😩
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Philip on 12 August 2020, 09:29
Hi , realise it’s a while ago but do you have paint code for Reifnitz wheels ?
Mrs has kerbed hers 😩

Can't help with the VW paint code but can say based on personal experience that Halfords Satin Black touch up is an almost exact match.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: robwils on 22 August 2020, 17:42
Hi , realise it’s a while ago but do you have paint code for Reifnitz wheels ?
Mrs has kerbed hers 😩

Can't help with the VW paint code but can say based on personal experience that Halfords Satin Black touch up is an almost exact match.

That’s great, thanks, will give it a go.
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: atlasgrey on 27 August 2020, 00:12
Having never driven a CSS there’s a curiosity as to whether it’s a sensible long term change from a TCR taking into account limited numbers, great reviews and residuals?

The pros for my TCR: prefer the grey to the CSS choices, like the sunroof, heated windscreen, adaptive lights, digital display and arm rest  :grin:

Pros for CSS: it’s an icon

Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Watts on 27 August 2020, 09:00
Having never driven a CSS there’s a curiosity as to whether it’s a sensible long term change from a TCR taking into account limited numbers, great reviews and residuals?

The pros for my TCR: prefer the grey to the CSS choices, like the sunroof, heated windscreen, adaptive lights, digital display and arm rest  :grin:

Pros for CSS: it’s an icon

And it's a manual and they seem to hold their values well. Other than that, mostly cons unless it'd be a toy. TCR has lots of pros, back seats, practical, quieter. Have a look at some of the Volkswizard reviews on you tube, he had a CSS and now has a TCR. It's fairly clear as to his preference....
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Exonian on 27 August 2020, 16:03
As a semi-mothballed fully mollycoddled toy the CSS makes a heap of sense and has everything going for it.

For a daily driver the TCR would win hands down in the creature comfort stakes.

Kinda stating the obvious I guess.

Ask AGB as he can do a direct comparison and uses his CSS daily. I know what he’d say!  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: clubsport on 27 August 2020, 16:58
For me the issue with the CSS is the lack of rear seats, as I already have at least 2 impractical 2 seaters, it's not what a Golf is about to me?

That is why I jumped at the chance of the nearest to CSS spec Clubsport I could find, so that it can also function as a Golf!

Personally not a fan of the Dsg only TCR, so it had to be a manual CS., I won't go on about the body kit etc.... ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
Post by: Snoopy on 28 August 2020, 11:00
↑ I don't have either but I agree with you totally.