128ti undercuts GTI

[fredgroves]

I don't like that huge chrome grill!

You can swap that out for a black one if you like.

A lot of M135i lot have done it.

[p3asa]

Opinions are divided over the looks of the new BMW 1 Series. There are a few near where I live and in darker colours they actually look pretty good. The one in our road is a dark metallic grey/silver and I like it.

I don't like that huge chrome grill!

The 128ti doesn't have a chrome grille

[fredgroves]

Actually, correct, no chrome grill.

Have a look here: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/detail/T0318069EN/the-new-bmw-128ti

[Watts]

Actually, correct, no chrome grill.

Have a look here: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/detail/T0318069EN/the-new-bmw-128ti

That doesn't look bad actually, if I was wanting to change one of these looks a better bet than a MK8 GTI. My OH would never talk to me again though as for some reason she intensely dislikes BMWs. Win win!

[fredgroves]

The thing to think about in terms of price too... This is more like gti pp dsg performance, lsd and brakes.. For less than the basic gti price.

And you can have rear tints too for those narco deals.

[Ulysses31]

Actually, correct, no chrome grill.

Have a look here: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/detail/T0318069EN/the-new-bmw-128ti

It's face really reminds me of the Joker, from Batman. The red accents look like his scars. Still looks better than the Golf, though.

[Sootchucker]

So, in the sakes of fairness, whilst the GTI loses out on basic price (and perhaps quality), it does counter with some extra equipment that is optional on the BMW

1. Keyless entry - standard (£500 option on BMW)
2. 3 Zone climate control - standard (only 2 zone on the BMW)
3. Safety pack - standard (Travel assist, adaptive cruise, side assist, lane assist, emergency assist (£1000 option on BMW)
4. IQ matrix LED Headlights - standard - (BMW IQ Headlights are £500 option)
5. Heated Steering Wheel - Standard (£150 option on BMW) - anyone else find it weird you get a heated steering wheel but not seats ?
6. Load though system and lumbar support (each are a £150 option with BMW)
7. Digital dash on GTI Standard (Only contained in BMW Live cockpit professional for £1000, and arguably a worse implementation)
8. Wireless phone charging (£350 option on BMW)
9. Manual gearbox available on GTI (for £1,500 less than the DSG) - no manual option on BMW
 
BMW Counter with

1. More power 265ps vs 245ps
2. More Torque 400 Nm vs 375Nm
3. Mechanical LSD - Electronic only on GTI
4. 4 pot 360mm Front brakes (312mm single pot on GTI)
5. 2 pot 330mm rear brakes (300mm single pot on GTI)
6. Heated seats standard on BMW (£270 winter pack option on GTI)
7. Extendable seat squab (not available on GTI)

So if you add the "missing" equipment above to the BMW it's an addition £3,800 (£500+£1000+£500+£150+£300+£1000+£350), it would bring the 128Ti basic price to £37,120 vs £34,960 for the GTI (DSG), plus the £270 you would have to add for Winter pack on the GTI make it actually actually £35,230. That's always assuming of course the "missing" equipment matters to you at all.

Also, don't' forget the BMW will always have more power, more torque, the LSD and much more powerful and blingy brakes as standard, and BMW has some much nicer colours to choose from as well - mmm..  Misano blue....

[fredgroves]

I had a reply about my quote request.... its going to be a week or so before its available for a finance quote.

Seems its not just VW that are disorganised German car makers.

I would have thought having your product to sell on the day you start your advertising would be a good idea if you wanted max impact. Given that most new cars are sold on dealer/OEM finance, having that ready should be your priority.

If you've already decided a cash price and have finance systems already, surely inputting some figures for a new model can't be hard can it??

[ar899]

Just sums up how poor car dealerships are at providing a decent service to the paying client. I've come across one or two very good salesmen but they are the exception. And as for websites.....

[mike roberts]

A lot being mentioned on the £150 lumbar, but on a BMW you get multiple adjustable zones & electric controlled - not just a lever that pokes you in the back a bit more based on a guess that's where you need it. You do want it though, the standard seats are a touch lacking.

Shame it doesn't have the M135i's hardback seats.

I'd want to have a go of that 'box too. The ZF8 in my old M135i was superbly calibrated and I loved that it would hold a gear and not auto-upshift - unlike my DSG.

The 8sp in the front draggers is the same as I have in my XC40, and whilst I imagine it'll have BMW's own settings, rather than those of a slushy LOLVO, it's just not quite as nice as even DSG, never mind the ZF8.

I've got my fantasy one at a more than happy with the spec £35,780.