dinky, fair point old boy, but what i meant was a saxo wouldn necessary be considered as a boy racers car if they hadn all been bought by 17 year old snots for the free insurance. say for exapmle the clio 172, i respect them cars a lot, but if every little boy had one, i wouldnt. aint got nothing to do with how fast they are i guess, more along the lines of top gear cool wall eh?
the problem with the 1.8t, r32 and v6 4 motion golfs is not that they are slow, but if you have ever been in one (mates own r32 and another a 1800t and another r32, jammy bastids) they are stupidly fast, but dont feel it as they were built to be sooooooo smooth aswell. v6 4motion vs calibra turbo. 2 of my mates bought one of each of them, one a vauxhall boy, one a vw boy. 4 motion feels so much slower than the cally turbo when your in it, but is actually faster. bizarre.
