GolfGTIforum.co.uk

Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: greencode on 12 March 2021, 11:34

Title: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: greencode on 12 March 2021, 11:34
I've had my Pilot Sport 4's on my 2017 Golf R for 3 years now (only done around 20,000 miles in that time) and there's now 3.5mm on back and 5mm on front so should probably get them replaced. Are the PS4's still the best one to go for?
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: mcmaddy on 12 March 2021, 11:38
Look on YouTube for tyrereviews. He does really good comparisons and the three best are PS4, Goodyear Eagle 5 or Conti 6. The Goodyear seems to be the best of both tyres. If you can hold off for now Michelin are releasing the PS4S in 18" which is normally the go to 19" tyre.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: karlos on 12 March 2021, 12:58
I'd like to get Pilot Sport All Season 4, but for some reason they are hard to get in the UK.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: jaceyboy on 12 March 2021, 17:39
I was looking at new tyres and it seems in 19" PS4's are still the top tyres so thats what I bought
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: rajb on 12 March 2021, 21:21
PS4S's all the way. I'm running them on the GTI, the 335i and will even get them for the X5 Alpina's.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: mcmaddy on 12 March 2021, 23:42
Need to remember the 18" PS4 is different to the 19" PS4S. You can't really compare them.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 13 March 2021, 00:09
I'm on my third set now, that's how highly I rate them. Camskill have/had them on offer at something like £65 a tyre after cashback. Fill yer boots!
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Splashalot on 13 March 2021, 03:16
Look on YouTube for tyrereviews. He does really good comparisons and the three best are PS4, Goodyear Eagle 5 or Conti 6. The Goodyear seems to be the best of both tyres. If you can hold off for now Michelin are releasing the PS4S in 18" which is normally the go to 19" tyre.

Further to this ^, Tyrereviews also has a video comparing the PS4 and PS4s (and another tyre I cannot recall ATM).  His conclusion was that there are small but significant differences, with the PS4s being the better choice for steering feel, turn in and stability. 

I've had PS4 for ~26,000kms and am generally impressed, especially with traction and wet grip.  But I find them a little vague and floaty on turn in - I'd like something with more feel and bite - such as the PS4s.  If these aren't available in my 18" size, I'll go for the new Goodyear F1 or Contis next time.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 March 2021, 09:57
Bridgestone have a brand new Sport tyre coming out which has bettered everything in a German tyre test. I'm sure Jonathan on Tyrereviews has said he has a test coming up with them.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Splashalot on 13 March 2021, 11:01
I wonder if that's the S007a? Sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 March 2021, 11:07
That ones already out. This ones just called Bridgestone Sport 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Splashalot on 13 March 2021, 11:51
Cheers. Will keep an eye out for it.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 March 2021, 12:08
I think PS4S in 18" and also the new Bridgestone Sport in 18" will be good to see what Tyrereviews say.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Paul70 on 13 March 2021, 16:15
Fitted PS4S on 18s today - quite a premium over the PS4 but hopefully they will be worth it.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DfCXZfJK/B62-ACB36-4-FCE-4-AF7-8-C45-450669-D65-E1-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7b26tknB)
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Rudedog on 13 March 2021, 16:53
'Made in USA', not seen that before on a set of Michelin's over here.



Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 13 March 2021, 21:02
I didn't know they did PS4s in 18's 😢

When did they come out?
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: fredgroves on 13 March 2021, 21:05
I didn't know they did PS4s in 18's 😢

When did they come out?

They came with the yaris gr....
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 13 March 2021, 23:26
I didn't know they did PS4s in 18's 😢

When did they come out?

They came with the yaris gr....

Don't mention that car, my heart says yes but my head says no.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Splashalot on 14 March 2021, 02:22
'Made in USA', not seen that before on a set of Michelin's over here.

We get Thailand made (denoted as ST on the sidewall) PS4.  There's some discussion here in Aus. that the Thai built ones have less sidewall plies and are not as sharp to steer as the European ones you blokes get.  More a "touring" class tyre.

Hence I'm looking for alternatives.  The new Bridgestones McMaddy mentioned sound very promising.  From memory I think our Bridgestones are made in Japan, so the real deal.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: mcmaddy on 14 March 2021, 10:42
They seem to be available but no one's actually tested them yet. Tyrereviews have said they will be testing them soon (delayed due to Corona).
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: fredgroves on 14 March 2021, 10:52
The ps4s in eighteen wasn't available in the UK and now we see "made in USA" on them.. I suspect that means they've imported them and that the usual supply from (probably) France still isn't making them.

I was quite surprised when I searched to see that most tyre manufacturers have plants in the USA. You'd have thought they'd have made them somewhere cheaper these days.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: mcmaddy on 14 March 2021, 13:59
I'd be very surprised if the GR Yaris factory tyres were from the US.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: jv on 14 March 2021, 14:01
Prepare to be surprised.

I especially like that the car isn't even available there, so the tyres go from the you essay to Japan, then on to the UK. Very eco.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: mcmaddy on 14 March 2021, 14:03
Prepare to be surprised.

I especially like that the car isn't even available there, so the tyres go from the you essay to Japan, then on to the UK. Very eco.
is the US the only region that does the PS4S in 18"?
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: jv on 14 March 2021, 14:09
No idea on that one! Does look a bit odd but guess it all comes down to cost.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: jv on 25 March 2021, 13:56
https://www.kwik-fit.com/tyres/search/details/michelin/michelin-pilot-sport-4s/t1031258

Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Arnold_Lane on 30 March 2021, 18:51
Just a quick question, I see the PS 4S' in 19" 88Y but should the GTI need XL rated tyres?
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Arnold_Lane on 30 March 2021, 19:01
Just a quick question, I see the PS 4S' in 19" 88Y but should the GTI need XL rated tyres?
Just checked and yes, they are extra load tyres.

However the next question relates to the size: I have the 19" Brescia alloys and when I enter the reg. no. in various on-line tyre sites seem to think that they are 235 / 35 profile not 225 / 35's that are fitted to car. Any idea why that is?
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Guzzle on 30 March 2021, 20:00
Just a quick question, I see the PS 4S' in 19" 88Y but should the GTI need XL rated tyres?
Just checked and yes, they are extra load tyres.

However the next question relates to the size: I have the 19" Brescia alloys and when I enter the reg. no. in various on-line tyre sites seem to think that they are 235 / 35 profile not 225 / 35's that are fitted to car. Any idea why that is?

235 would be for 8J width, but the Brescia's are 7.5J for which 225's are fine.

The Pretoria from the R and the new Mk8 19 inch wheels are 8J width.
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: dobb3r on 04 April 2021, 13:22
I need some new tyres as my fronts are getting low, rear Pirellis look new.

I'm going to get the PS4s all round at some time but for now will get the PS4s on the rear and move the Pirellis to the front. I found these PS4s', wondered which type forum members went with?


(https://i.postimg.cc/76BMR4kK/Screenshot-20210404-085235-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXZZwfrh)
Title: Re: Pilot Sport 4
Post by: chas.s on 04 April 2021, 16:19
I need some new tyres as my fronts are getting low, rear Pirellis look new.

I'm going to get the PS4s all round at some time but for now will get the PS4s on the rear and move the Pirellis to the front. I found these PS4s', wondered which type forum members went with?


(https://i.postimg.cc/76BMR4kK/Screenshot-20210404-085235-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXZZwfrh)

Hi dobb3r,
Try Blackcircle.com they are doing 10% off two, which will be cheaper.
Cheers, Chas 👍