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Title: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: boneybradley on 24 March 2009, 16:55
Here is my guide to the dealer fit alarm and immobiliser's...
there were a few different "dealer" option fit alarm and immobiliser options on top of the factory key immobiliser that were fitted from 1994

first is the Scorpion 915
key fob
(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7921/saqp2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)


Now the Scorpion 918
Key fob is similar to the 915 but with 2 buttons
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b80/r_james_s/DSCN1660.jpg)

There was also the Scorpion 5000 (2 button remote and cat1 certified)
Info required as I'm having trouble finding correct details but here is the reset instructions
If it's the original Scorpion 5000 alarm it needs the battery to be reconnected in a set sequence for the alarm to be reset.

1 With battery disconnected turn ignition on
2 connect battery (at this point you should hear the alarm registering power, though not 'going off')
3 turn off ignition
4 press and hold down the set alarm button for 10 seconds (though it will probably set after only 2 or 3 seconds)

that should reset everything but you will have problems if you have been trying all sorts of things and confused the alarm system. If that is the case disconnect from the battery for a while (maybe as much as a few hours) so the alarm unit is discharged of all power before setting as above.

then we have the conlogic 850/950 series made by conlog

Instruction manual
http://boneybradley.webs.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=4973844 (http://boneybradley.webs.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=4973844)

over ride location (for models that had this fitted)
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/bossman187uk/CopyofDSC_0012.jpg)

If anybody has pictures of fob's,manuals,fitting guides etc etc please pm me the details and I will update this thread as required  :wink:

Title: Re: Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: harlemex on 24 March 2009, 17:01
This is very helpful, cheers to Boney...
Title: Re: Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: Vdubbster on 24 March 2009, 19:24
Cheers, I have the 915 and desperately need to upgrade it
Title: Re: Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: *tell* on 08 April 2009, 21:10
good thread  :cool:
Title: Re: Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: boneybradley on 08 April 2009, 21:39
good thread  :cool:

thanks.... I know loads of people have alarm issues and was bored at work so!!  :wink:
Title: Re: Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: admc6 on 09 April 2009, 10:11
When i get the chance i will add some scans of the Logic 900 instruction manual i have. Maybe this weekend
Title: Re: Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: zoomered on 15 April 2009, 21:17
Hi i have a Scorpion 918. I don't seem to have the key that it talks about. Does anyone know how i can disconnect my battery without the alarm going off? Thanks
Title: Re: Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: boneybradley on 15 April 2009, 21:30
Hi i have a Scorpion 918. I don't seem to have the key that it talks about. Does anyone know how i can disconnect my battery without the alarm going off? Thanks

Mines the 918 without the over ride key and I simply disconnect the battery without issues!
Title: Re: Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: skcollob_ho on 21 April 2009, 18:10
I have a Meta Systems alarm on mine. Don't know if this is an aftermarket replacement or original from the showroom.

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii180/skcollob_ho/MetaSystems.jpg)
Title: Re: Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: ash0402 on 07 June 2009, 10:50
hi just wondering if anyone can shine any light on why my alarm doesnt make a sound!
im 99% sure its a Scorpion 918 everything seems to work fine but there is no siren or beeps or anything! even when i press the panic button any ideas would help! cheers ash
Title: Re: Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: MK3TDi1996 on 15 June 2009, 12:46
i don't have an immobiliser fob as such but my key does have the small black chip...

any info on this and why sometimes the engine won't turn over when i turn the key but when i turn it bacand try again it starts no problem... ?
Title: Re: Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: omex_uk on 07 July 2009, 11:39
I have a Meta Systems alarm on mine. Don't know if this is an aftermarket replacement or original from the showroom.

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii180/skcollob_ho/MetaSystems.jpg)

i have the smaller thing on the left on mine and ive found some alarm bits and bobs whist taking the roof lining off (sensors at the top of the a pillars). can anyone get a pic of where the base unit so i can see why its not working.

cheers
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: bittman on 20 December 2009, 21:59
hi i came across this thread and found it very helpfull as i lost my two button fob for my mk3 gti ..the only thing is i got a replacement fob of ebay and was wondering is it the same procedure to program a new fob as it doesnt seem to work for me or should i totaly disconect the battery for a bit and then try it? thanks in advance carl :cry:
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: mnk on 28 July 2010, 10:29
Hi Sorry to post on an old thread, but has anyone got the pdf manual for the Scorpion 915 Alarm. The link provided earlier in this thread is no longer working.

Thanks

MK
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: thebassman on 29 July 2010, 22:46
+1 for a link to the 918 manual, the link is dead.
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: ollie6n on 03 August 2010, 02:08
One more +1 for the link re direction
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: Mechaphile on 05 September 2010, 16:44
I have a logis 600, and My car keeps cutting out down the road or turns over and refuses to start completely! I read in the forums it may be the ECU imobiliser connectors! or the imobilser itself I do not have an overide key how can I obtain one or any other Ideas would be helpful!
Thank you!
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: marky-gee on 03 October 2010, 16:03
very intresting thread, ive just bought a mk3 but the conlog logic 900 dosnt work from the fob  :cry:

but it does work on the override slot, i would love to have the central locking work off the remote.

does anyone have a experience with these alarms?

cheers

mark
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: markrtw on 05 October 2010, 17:14
With the Conlog 900, it sounds like the batteries in the remote are too dead to communicate with the alarm system, but still power the little operation light on the remote. I have had this problem on my 1996 16v Anniversary and found that the dealers don't supply the batteries anymore. VW parts directed me to the place they sourced them from and I found them at £5.10 + delivery + VAT (http://www.granadabatteries.co.uk/vwvagconloglogic4cellbatterypack998vag688-p-657.html).
I bought a few (4 cell packs - check in your remote 1st as some models have 5 cell packs), so I have some spare and will do them for £5 posted if anyones interested. (normal mainland post).
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: markrtw on 06 October 2010, 12:35
Mark, I cannot reply to you as your email setting is "blocked". Could you email me your email address or unblock it please?

Thanks.
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: marky-gee on 06 October 2010, 15:50
Mark, I cannot reply to you as your email setting is "blocked". Could you email me your email address or unblock it please?

Thanks.

Marky-gee@hotmail.co.uk
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: marky-gee on 09 October 2010, 15:47
ok replaced the batteries, and still nothing  :cry.

i noticed a key slot on the siren under the bonnet, but i don't have the key, could this be the problem

also is there a fuse for the alarm anywhere? 


should also point out the stereo is loosing its settings,could this be related ?
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: Chew22 on 18 January 2011, 10:09
I have a logis 600, and My car keeps cutting out down the road or turns over and refuses to start completely! I read in the forums it may be the ECU imobiliser connectors! or the imobilser itself I do not have an overide key how can I obtain one or any other Ideas would be helpful!
Thank you!

I am experiencing the same problem as this.

I have both the original key fobs, is there ANY way to deactivate the immobiliser permanently, without having it ripped out?? Or is there a few simple things I can check first??

EDIT: I have a little round key that I can put into the alarm speaker under the bonnet. I think this just turns off the alarm sound off though :(
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: TEST100 on 03 January 2013, 20:01
I really wish someone would reply with answers to this thread.as i also have problems with the 918. ..........
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: boneybradley on 03 January 2013, 23:39
I really wish someone would reply with answers to this thread.as i also have problems with the 918. ..........

I would but scorpion (or whoever owns the copyrights) have removed lots of info about the alarms!! If anyone elxe finds info/manuals etc let me know so this thread can live  :smiley:
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: TEST100 on 05 January 2013, 16:33
Cheers anyway boneybradley.
Ive got my alarm and fob working again.but not sure wether its gona last.... :undecided:

Heres my story -

I was doin some work on the car, checking and cleaning my sunroof overflow holes/tubes.when i had finished i went unlock the car and the fob wasnt working  :cry: i opened the door with key which led to the alarm sounding.i turned the sound off via switch on black alarm box under bonnet.tryed to jump start my car which had no joy.then i located the alarm/immobilser fuse which are behind the main fuse box under steering wheel/footwell.pulled the red 1 out then replaced it after few mins.this got my fob and alarm working but with no sound,so i turned it back on at the alarm box but still no sound,all fuses seemed ok.took to my local autoelrctrics he opened the alarm resoldered some wires,drove car back work,locked it all fine then came out wen finished and fob didnt work again... :angry:.i fiddled with fuse got car started but then started car to find alarm goin off again.had auto electrics by pass immobiliser nxt day i put alarm fuse back and everything is working fine.completely shot my head.my alarm system is a scorpion 918.i hope some of this info can help.also if anyone can shed some light on the struggle ive been through.cheerz guys and gyals




Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: search on 13 July 2013, 21:42
I to have the Logic 900, and the only way I can get the car to drive is to manually put the fob into its socket under the passengers side dash board, I wouldn't mind but friends think I'm trying to touch them up LOL.

Is there anyway to set the fob so i can just use the wireless button on it?

Cheers.
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: admc6 on 16 September 2013, 22:35
I to have the Logic 900, and the only way I can get the car to drive is to manually put the fob into its socket under the passengers side dash board, I wouldn't mind but friends think I'm trying to touch them up LOL.

Is there anyway to set the fob so i can just use the wireless button on it?

Cheers.

Does your fob work? You should have two, one with a yellow light one with a red. The red is the master.  Hold the master into the slot in glovebox (under dash) for a few seconds. Your lights (alarm/immobiliser) should both come on. As far as i know this re sets it. Then hold the slave one in.

Its been a while since i had a problem with mine so cant remember the exact order.
Title: Re: INFO Mk3 dealer fit alarm/immobiliser info... conlog and scorpion
Post by: admc6 on 18 September 2013, 17:26
Logic 900 User Instructions

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7311/9799476685_92fff500f1_c.jpg)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2805/9799514696_bfb84fd959_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2805/9799514696_bfb84fd959_b.jpg)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5530/9799532084_dbfe3ec834_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2858/9799521535_d935565941_z.jpg)

You should have also got an installation certificate

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7395/9799553506_083444e5fb_z.jpg)