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Offline Watts

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Re: DIY or Pro?
« Reply #10 on: 18 June 2018, 12:09 »
arrrr is that another product to buy ???  :sad:

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You might not need it but in all likelihood you will. And something to get any tar spots off too!
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Offline Jeff Wood

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Re: DIY or Pro?
« Reply #11 on: 18 June 2018, 12:36 »
Just been reading about it.

I'll get some Autoglym Magma later, that seems to do the job.

So, if I've got this right it will be;

1) Wash with the G3 body prep shampoo which removes all the existing wax.

2) Autoglym Magma

3) Clay bar

4) Poor Boys Natty Red Wax

5) Quick detail

Does sound like a good plan ?


It's funny this detailing lark is like a drug addiction, start off with a few specialist products thinking I can handle it, and next I'm buying Clay and Iron remover, God knows where I'm gonna end up  :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Re: DIY or Pro?
« Reply #12 on: 18 June 2018, 12:50 »
Just been reading about it.

I'll get some Autoglym Magma later, that seems to do the job.

So, if I've got this right it will be;

1) Wash with the G3 body prep shampoo which removes all the existing wax.

2) Autoglym Magma

3) Clay bar

4) Poor Boys Natty Red Wax

5) Quick detail

Does sound like a good plan ?


It's funny this detailing lark is like a drug addiction, start off with a few specialist products thinking I can handle it, and next I'm buying Clay and Iron remover, God knows where I'm gonna end up  :grin: :grin: :grin:

In my opinion, if you’re not going to follow up the clay with at least a single stage polish then I would leave it out. You will inflict marring through claying, no matter how much lube you use, and if you don’t correct the paintwork after you might see some unsightly holograms once the sun comes out.

However that’s only what I would do on my own car.

Otherwise your plan seems to be pretty solid. Before using the Magma I would use some tar remover to get rid of any stubborn tar spots on the paintwork.

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Re: DIY or Pro?
« Reply #13 on: 18 June 2018, 12:53 »
Do check you aren't claying unnecessarily, deal with each panel as required. A polish might be worth considering too. I do find the TR quite forgiving and it can look amazing with relatively little effort.

It's funny this detailing lark is like a drug addiction, start off with a few specialist products thinking I can handle it, and next I'm buying Clay and Iron remover, God knows where I'm gonna end up  :grin: :grin: :grin:

+1 for that :rolleyes: My OH thinks I'm mad. I do find it rather frustrating at times but when you have finished and you drive somewhere on a sunny day, get out and look back, that glow from TR makes it all worthwhile :smiley:
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Offline Jeff Wood

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Re: DIY or Pro?
« Reply #14 on: 18 June 2018, 12:58 »
 :grin: OK, perhaps I wont bother with the clay,

But when you say Polish, what exactly should I get ?

I've already got some Autoglym Polish so I take it that would be ok to use before the Natty wax ?
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Offline dubber36

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Re: DIY or Pro?
« Reply #15 on: 18 June 2018, 13:05 »
By Autoglym polish, I guess you have Super Resin? That's more of an all in one defect masker than a correcting polish. You need something a little more raw with no fillers in it. I like the Menzerna range of products.

Another point, don't quick detailer too soon after waxing. You'll just end up with smears. I wouldn't QD until after it's next wash.
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Offline Jeff Wood

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Re: DIY or Pro?
« Reply #16 on: 18 June 2018, 13:32 »
Thanks for the advice..

Are you there any suitable polishes that Halfords stock? As il be passing a Halfords later...they do most of the meguiers range I think.
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Re: DIY or Pro?
« Reply #17 on: 18 June 2018, 13:42 »
Looks good.

Get as much embedded decontaminant off as you can with the least agressive ‘touchless’ processes to minimise swirling and marring - so iron remover then tar remover - then check to see what’s left by popping your hand in a plastic sandwich bag and running palm and fingertips over panels, as this emphasises embedded contaminants so you know what’s left, and whether claying is necessary. 
 
Claying is an aggressive process and even a careful technique can leave you with some clay marring.   Because of this I only ever clay if I am following it with a polish to remove any clay marring and to refine the paint. A run over with a DA using a finishing polish on a finishing pad easily removes clay marring.
 
The key to minimising clay marring is using plenty of lube (I use DoDo Juice Born Slippy) and regularly folding the clay.  I prefer to use clay mitts these days as they are very easy to rinse after every section.
 
But at any claying can cause marring so my advice is only clay if you intend to follow with a machine polish (or hand polish, but much much harder work to remove marring by hand).

Agree with dubber about leaving the QD to the following week or later even so it’s a refresh in between waxes.
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Offline Jeff Wood

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Re: DIY or Pro?
« Reply #18 on: 18 June 2018, 13:46 »
Thanks.

Would meguiers ultimate compound be a good choice for a polish ??
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Re: DIY or Pro?
« Reply #19 on: 18 June 2018, 13:49 »
Thanks for the advice..

Are you there any suitable polishes that Halfords stock? As il be passing a Halfords later...they do most of the meguiers range I think.

Does it need polishing? It’s a new car, although that’s not to say the car was delivered to you with perfect, blemish/swirl-free paintwork - the dealer will often give you complimentary swirls as a freebie when they PDI the car.

If the reason for polishing your car is to remove dealer inflicted swirls, then doing it by hand will be really hard work and IMO not particularly successful. Machine polishing is the best and most successful way of getting rid of swirls and paint defects.

If you don’t have any swirls to get rid of and the paint’s in good condition, I’d miss out the polishing stage.

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