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Title: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TurboTrev on 12 April 2013, 14:40
Has anyone who has ordered a GTI got a build week yet?  Thanks.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 April 2013, 15:00
Not a confirmed build week, no.  Was told it could be 3 - 4 weeks before I hear anything concrete like that.  Starting to get impatient already, might have to buy a used Mk6 in the meantime just to ease the pain! Haha! ;)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 12 April 2013, 15:30
I placed an order just over two weeks ago but have yet to receive a build date. Phoned the dealer up yesterday to check, but all he could confirm was that the order was being "processed" & he would let me know as soon as he gets any further information.

It's being touted on here that it could be weeks 22/23 but I have yet to receive official confirmation on my order.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 12 April 2013, 15:31
When's 23/24?

Standard cars should arrive sooner I hope..
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 April 2013, 15:41
Not sure if people are aware, but you can put your order number into here and it will let you know as it gets to key stages:

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order

A dealer may be able to give more detail once it is being built, but not a lot you can do really other than sit back and wait!  Weighing a pig doesn't make it any fatter, but we all keep weighing our pigs!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dirvy on 12 April 2013, 16:09
Also being processed :sad:  checking daily with order number as suggested
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 12 April 2013, 17:53
Dealer told me that it will some time before we hear anything back.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 13 April 2013, 13:31
Previous history has told me that I usually get to hear about a build week 3 to 4 weeks after ordering and that build week is usually 6-7 weeks after. Don't know currently whether VW are overly busy or not compared to last time I ordered.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Chriscav on 13 April 2013, 15:42
Hi there,

New member and soon to be new gti owner!
Ordered this morning and can't wait. 
Owned a polo gti 1.4 tsi before my current car so had a taster of the gti but I can imagine it pales in comparison to the golf.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: blueheaduk on 13 April 2013, 15:44
Anyone having trouble with the VW order tracking? My order number was showing up nicely last night but today it doesn't recognise the number :-s Bit concerned!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 13 April 2013, 15:58
Anyone having trouble with the VW order tracking? My order number was showing up nicely last night but today it doesn't recognise the number :-s Bit concerned!


Not working for me either at the moment, lets be honest though, VW are being a bit crap with anything internet based just lately! I wouldn't worry.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 13 April 2013, 16:12
Same here, local retailer told me there were some technical issues, and to not worry, orders have not been cancelled or anything drastic!

Hi there,

New member and soon to be new gti owner!
Ordered this morning and can't wait. 
Owned a polo gti 1.4 tsi before my current car so had a taster of the gti but I can imagine it pales in comparison to the golf.

Congrats, and welcome!  Be sure to update the spec thread that's stickied at the top of the forum here if you haven't already :)  Having driven the car you mention, and currently owning a MkV Golf GTI, I think you will be more than happy with your decision!

By the way, the colour multifunction computer is standard kit now.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 15 April 2013, 19:46
Strange how this article says first deliveries Aug 5th...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/articles/2013/04/cars/volkswagen/golf-gtd/the-new-vw-golf-gtd-is-available-to-order-now

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: blueheaduk on 15 April 2013, 19:55
Anyone had any luck with the order tracking yet? Still not recognising mine  :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 15 April 2013, 20:44
Strange how this article says first deliveries Aug 5th...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/articles/2013/04/cars/volkswagen/golf-gtd/the-new-vw-golf-gtd-is-available-to-order-now

I would be more inclined to believe the VW UK website than an autotrader article. According to teh GTD/GTI sub pages for configurator etc it says available to order now, ready for June.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: blueheaduk on 15 April 2013, 21:04
Strange how this article says first deliveries Aug 5th...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/articles/2013/04/cars/volkswagen/golf-gtd/the-new-vw-golf-gtd-is-available-to-order-now

I would be more inclined to believe the VW UK website than an autotrader article. According to teh GTD/GTI sub pages for configurator etc it says available to order now, ready for June.

With all the faff we've been having with the VW website I would be very wary of anything on there!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 09:23
For those who have order numbers, how long did it take after ordering for you to get one?  I ordered 2 weeks ago and no order number from my dealer as yet.  Do you chaps have a build date yet either?  My dealer said that VW won't start building until the end of May (week 22??)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 16 April 2013, 10:15
Bugger!!! Just had a phone call from the dealer this morning confirming a build date Week 25!! He did say that this date was provisional only and could move either forwards or backwards... Lets hoping its forward rather than backward... So based on this I'm guessing possibly July/August delivery... I was hoping it was June.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 11:11
I'm going to have a stab in the dark and say that this will happen to all of us - clearly weeks 22-24 are being designated for demo cars, actual orders will be after that.  Which I actually think is wrong to be honest - an order is an order and customers should take priority over demo cars IMO.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 16 April 2013, 11:26
I totally agree. If that really is the case then the whole thing stinks. Customers should definitely take priority over Company. If the cars are selling well anyway, why need "demo" cars???
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 12:09
VW know that we will wait for our cars.  And they want a shiny new GTI & GTD in all of their showrooms.  I can understand this way of thinking as gives a potential buyer something to look at, however getting the cars on the road is the best form of advertising I can think of - there is no substitute for this  - especially as 99% of us who have ordered will be keeping their cars clean and shiny for months!  Stocking demo cars before customer orders is short sighted on their part IMO.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 16 April 2013, 12:32
Not so sure about the demo cars, see this EVO posted from official VW internal message.

VW0401-13

We can now confirm that pricing and specification for GTI and GTD are as in the below price list and that Automatic Distance Control (ADC) is standard on both cars.

We delayed the open for order date by a day to make sure we published the correct prices and specifications. Customer orders will be built from week 22.


Only market entry and function cars will be built before the week 22 (27 May) model year 14 change; these will be built without ADC but with cruise control instead.


It would seem to suggest that demo cars will be around mid to late next month, and first orders I guess
we would see be collected around 24/25?

If your build week is 25, maybe your dealer didn't have allocation?

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 16 April 2013, 13:06
Thanks for that Dave... That's very interesting indeed. Like my dealer said, Week 25 was provisional and was likely to change. I do hope its brought forward.. The annoying thing is, was that I placed my order the day after the order books opened & as far as I'm aware was the first GTi order from that dealership.

It's a poor do if they haven't been given an initial allocation as its the only VW dealer in the whole of Bristol.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 13:10
A word of warning - I was the first to place an order in North Herts in 2009 for the Mk 6 GTI (I believe it was the first week of April 2009) - and I ordered the day the order books opened.  I didn't receive my GTI until the second week of September.  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 16 April 2013, 13:18
I'm going to have a stab in the dark and say that this will happen to all of us - clearly weeks 22-24 are being designated for demo cars, actual orders will be after that.  Which I actually think is wrong to be honest - an order is an order and customers should take priority over demo cars IMO.

When I placed my order, I specifically asked my dealer if I would be the first person to have the GTI from his dealership. He said yes. I said, even before the demo cars. He said yes, yours will be before the demo cars, yours will be the first one we get as you are our first order, simple as.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 13:23
I'm going to have a stab in the dark and say that this will happen to all of us - clearly weeks 22-24 are being designated for demo cars, actual orders will be after that.  Which I actually think is wrong to be honest - an order is an order and customers should take priority over demo cars IMO.

When I placed my order, I specifically asked my dealer if I would be the first person to have the GTI from his dealership. He said yes. I said, even before the demo cars. He said yes, yours will be before the demo cars, yours will be the first one we get as you are our first order, simple as.

I hope you're right as this is exactly what I was told, and my order is the first this particular VW Group has had - he said it was VW policy with the GTI's to put the customer first ahead of demos - but I don't believe that for a second I'm afraid.  I hope I turn out to be completely wrong though!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 16 April 2013, 13:32
I'm going to have a stab in the dark and say that this will happen to all of us - clearly weeks 22-24 are being designated for demo cars, actual orders will be after that.  Which I actually think is wrong to be honest - an order is an order and customers should take priority over demo cars IMO.

When I placed my order, I specifically asked my dealer if I would be the first person to have the GTI from his dealership. He said yes. I said, even before the demo cars. He said yes, yours will be before the demo cars, yours will be the first one we get as you are our first order, simple as.

I hope you're right as this is exactly what I was told, and my order is the first this particular VW Group has had - he said it was VW policy with the GTI's to put the customer first ahead of demos - but I don't believe that for a second I'm afraid.  I hope I turn out to be completely wrong though!!


If I see a demo at the dealership before my car, I'm gonna kick up a fuss. I might even cancel my order and wait for the R, it does look awesome! Then again, I probably won't lol.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 13:34
 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: evo1986 on 16 April 2013, 13:38
I'm going to have a stab in the dark and say that this will happen to all of us - clearly weeks 22-24 are being designated for demo cars, actual orders will be after that.  Which I actually think is wrong to be honest - an order is an order and customers should take priority over demo cars IMO.

When I placed my order, I specifically asked my dealer if I would be the first person to have the GTI from his dealership. He said yes. I said, even before the demo cars. He said yes, yours will be before the demo cars, yours will be the first one we get as you are our first order, simple as.

I hope you're right as this is exactly what I was told, and my order is the first this particular VW Group has had - he said it was VW policy with the GTI's to put the customer first ahead of demos - but I don't believe that for a second I'm afraid.  I hope I turn out to be completely wrong though!!


If I see a demo at the dealership before my car, I'm gonna kick up a fuss. I might even cancel my order and wait for the R, it does look awesome! Then again, I probably won't lol.

You might as well phone them up now and cancel
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 16 April 2013, 16:23
Oh good, one less in the queue then  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 16 April 2013, 16:42
I'm going to have a stab in the dark and say that this will happen to all of us - clearly weeks 22-24 are being designated for demo cars, actual orders will be after that.  Which I actually think is wrong to be honest - an order is an order and customers should take priority over demo cars IMO.

When I placed my order, I specifically asked my dealer if I would be the first person to have the GTI from his dealership. He said yes. I said, even before the demo cars. He said yes, yours will be before the demo cars, yours will be the first one we get as you are our first order, simple as.

I hope you're right as this is exactly what I was told, and my order is the first this particular VW Group has had - he said it was VW policy with the GTI's to put the customer first ahead of demos - but I don't believe that for a second I'm afraid.  I hope I turn out to be completely wrong though!!


If I see a demo at the dealership before my car, I'm gonna kick up a fuss. I might even cancel my order and wait for the R, it does look awesome! Then again, I probably won't lol.

You might as well phone them up now and cancel

So you're saying that a demo car will definitely be there before mine?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 16:45
If I had to choose, I'd agree with evo1986 - no chance you'll get your car before they get their demo - this is my experience anyway....

*get ready to kick off*  :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 16 April 2013, 16:57
If I had to choose, I'd agree with evo1986 - no chance you'll get your car before they get their demo - this is my experience anyway....

*get ready to kick off*  :evil:

Well I would have not minded if he had just told me that plain and simple. I'll visit him tomorrow to see what's what. Thing is, if I get my car 1st week of August or last few days of July, it makes no sense to take it before the new "63" reg.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 16 April 2013, 17:25
When I placed my order I was told by the sales exec to expect the car end may, early June...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dirvy on 16 April 2013, 17:36
My experience with ordering, is that we know more than most dealers did re prices spec, order dates etc.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 18:07
My experience with ordering, is that we know more than most dealers did re prices spec, order dates etc.

Totally agree. The dealer I use was actually pretty clued up but I visited a different one & he literally didn't have a clue, I was actually embarrassed for him.

ROO1 - he's telling you porkies, they don't start making them for the general public until the end of May!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 16 April 2013, 18:21
Don't worry! They'll be here sometime this year! :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 16 April 2013, 19:53
My experience with ordering, is that we know more than most dealers did re prices spec, order dates etc.

Totally agree. The dealer I use was actually pretty clued up but I visited a different one & he literally didn't have a clue, I was actually embarrassed for him.

ROO1 - he's telling you porkies, they don't start making them for the general public until the end of May!!

That's ok..I'll get them to compensate me as per normal on every new car I've ordered
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: evo1986 on 16 April 2013, 20:03
I'm going to have a stab in the dark and say that this will happen to all of us - clearly weeks 22-24 are being designated for demo cars, actual orders will be after that.  Which I actually think is wrong to be honest - an order is an order and customers should take priority over demo cars IMO.

When I placed my order, I specifically asked my dealer if I would be the first person to have the GTI from his dealership. He said yes. I said, even before the demo cars. He said yes, yours will be before the demo cars, yours will be the first one we get as you are our first order, simple as.

I hope you're right as this is exactly what I was told, and my order is the first this particular VW Group has had - he said it was VW policy with the GTI's to put the customer first ahead of demos - but I don't believe that for a second I'm afraid.  I hope I turn out to be completely wrong though!!


If I see a demo at the dealership before my car, I'm gonna kick up a fuss. I might even cancel my order and wait for the R, it does look awesome! Then again, I probably won't lol.

You might as well phone them up now and cancel

So you're saying that a demo car will definitely be there before mine?

I would put everything I own on showroom and demo cars arriving before any customers orders. Priority has got to be get cars to show rooms for launch event weekends etc then the orders will really pour in and we will probably be in the silly lead time situation we had with Mk6.

Not one of the 3 orders we have taken so far have a scheduled build week
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TurboTrev on 18 April 2013, 18:47
Been on the "track my order" bit of the VW website and it still doesn't recognise my order number...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 April 2013, 19:14
Been on the "track my order" bit of the VW website and it still doesn't recognise my order number...

At least you've got an order number!  :angry: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TurboTrev on 18 April 2013, 22:25
Been on the "track my order" bit of the VW website and it still doesn't recognise my order number...

At least you've got an order number!  :angry: :rolleyes:
As I understand it (and I might be wrong) an order number is available the day after the order is submitted to VW by the dealer?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 April 2013, 22:34
I'm on the phone first thing tomorrow. If that's the case I'm going to kick off big time as it would imply my order has not been put through  :angry:

Thanks for the tip though!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 18 April 2013, 22:47
Got my order number a couple of weeks ago, a few days after ordering.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 19 April 2013, 01:46
I'm on the phone first thing tomorrow. If that's the case I'm going to kick off big time as it would imply my order has not been put through  :angry:

Thanks for the tip though!

Have you asked for it or are you just waiting for the dealer to call you? I asked for mine.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 19 April 2013, 08:55
I asked for it, he said as soon as he has it he'll contact me.  That was a week ago.  Emailed him on Weds, haven't heard anything back!  :angry:

It's ok, I'll pop in this morning and see him face to face - easier that way (to not get fobbed off!!)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 19 April 2013, 10:54
Does sound like he may have sold you a car without having any allocation. :undecided: hope not though, good luck! :afro:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dirvy on 19 April 2013, 11:45
I had mine written down on my order Form on day of ordering.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 19 April 2013, 12:18
So I went in to see him; still no order number, says he hasn't been given one as yet by VW. He assured me the order has gone in. Not much else I can do really other than wait. I've no reason to not believe what he was saying and he said as soon as he's got it he will pass it over to me.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 19 April 2013, 13:25
I got my order number just after I orderded.

Been told something interesting by dealer though.

All orders in system have now been frozen, until week 20. (This would figure as I can't check on my order number on the tracker now and could before.

After week 20, all orders will be given a new build week, this is because VW UK are fitting ACC as standard.

I questioned this, and they said not ADC but ACC as standard.

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 19 April 2013, 14:16
I now have my order number woo hoo! Just had to share that  :grin: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 22 April 2013, 15:41
My order has been accepted by the factory but no confirmed build week yet.

Still waiting for my order number too  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 22 April 2013, 15:48
Order has been accepted by the factory, but all GTI orders are apparently on hold and being upgraded to 2014 specifications from week 22.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 22 April 2013, 15:59
Order has been accepted by the factory, but all GTI orders are apparently on hold and being upgraded to 2014 specifications from week 22.

Heck that means they won't start building them until w/c May 27th. Add on another month for build, shipping, delivery and PDI's and I reckon the first ones on the road will be around the end of June!

What exactly are the 2014 spec upgrades?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 April 2013, 16:00
Mine is processing now and per above I guess it will stay that way until the middle of May when, like the rest of us, it "should" be given a build date of week 22 (which is last week of May??) Don't know about everyone else but that is too far away for my liking!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 April 2013, 16:07

Heck that means they won't start building them until w/c May 27th. Add on another month for build, shipping, delivery and PDI's and I reckon the first ones on the road will be around the end of June!


This is in line with what I've been told. It means demos will be in the dealerships for end of June, then deliveries for cars with standard spec coming mid to end of July, and those orders with factory options coming end of July/mid August.  Nowt any of us can do about this, however when VW say "on sale from June" this is completely misleading & incorrect.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 22 April 2013, 16:21
I was told today that there isnt even a planned build start date for GTD's...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 22 April 2013, 16:44
Order has been accepted by the factory, but all GTI orders are apparently on hold and being upgraded to 2014 specifications from week 22.

Heck that means they won't start building them until w/c May 27th. Add on another month for build, shipping, delivery and PDI's and I reckon the first ones on the road will be around the end of June!

What exactly are the 2014 spec upgrades?

I don't know what the entire 2014 spec upgrades are, but it includes the heated windscreen option that needs to be ordered along with the new (optional!) advanced telephone prep.  I suspect this is needed to cradle the phone and boost antenna performance.

Apparently the heated windscreen is a clear film laminated between the glass, rather than thin wires like on Fords.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 22 April 2013, 16:58
I was told today that there isnt even a planned build start date for GTD's...

That's glum news :shocked: Where did you hear that ROO1?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 22 April 2013, 16:58
The phone prep probably has SMS functionality too which would be kinda cool.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 22 April 2013, 17:08
Yeah I believe it does have SMS functionality, from a previous thread:

Quote
Looks like the advanced phone connection brings wifi connection to the golf (poor google translation of the German website below)

Mobile phone interface "premium"
Content as mobile phone interface "Comfort", plus in addition the external antenna connection is available via a cradle in the center console and in addition:
- Own vehicle GSM-/UMTS-Sende-/Empfangsteil module with SIM card slot
- SMS features: Reading 2), write (available via voice control), reading
- Wi-Fi hotspot
- Additional Bluetooth interface remote SIM access profile (rSAP) 3)
(only in combination with Navigation Function "Discover Media" or navigation system "Discover Pro" to order)

Not sure how genuinely useful it would be to me, but if it's needed to get a heated screen, I'll need to get it.  Thing is, I plan on keeping this car for a good number of years.  At first I wasn't going to bother, but the more I think about it, the more I know I'll regret not getting a heated screen.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 22 April 2013, 17:38
The phone prep probably has SMS functionality too which would be kinda cool.

The normal bluetooth has sms function, just not on the iphone as it doesn't support remote sim access (rsap)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 22 April 2013, 18:30
I was told today that there isnt even a planned build start date for GTD's...

That's glum news :shocked: Where did you hear that ROO1?

Stoke VW
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 23 April 2013, 10:32
So, has anyone actually got a build week yet?  Or even been given an estimate by their dealers?   :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sam67GTD on 23 April 2013, 10:48
I've been told by my VW dealer, Isaac Agnew, Belfast that my GTD should be here in July. No build week yet as VW are in the process of changing the car into a 2014 model.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 23 April 2013, 15:24
I placed my order for a GTI an hour ago.  The dealer estimates "July/August" but my intuition tells me its going to be mid to end August rather than July!

On the plus side if it slips to September then it'll be on the 63 plates.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 23 April 2013, 15:44
I placed my order for a GTI an hour ago.  The dealer estimates "July/August" but my intuition tells me its going to be mid to end August rather than July!

On the plus side if it slips to September then it'll be on the 63 plates.
For once, plate numbers make no odds to me as I just got a private plate for my birthday!  Just hand over the certificate before they register it and I'll pick it up with them already installed.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TurboTrev on 23 April 2013, 18:49
Well despite having my order number for a week, it still hasn't appeared on the VW site as being processed.  The track orders go up to 23208600 as being processed, then any number after that is not recognised.  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 23 April 2013, 18:52
Well, it's been a couple of weeks now.  My order number was showing as processing, then it disappeared, then it showed as processing again, and now it has disappeared again!  I now the order is in the system and accepted by the factory because my retailer checked yesterday for me when I called about the heated screen option.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 23 April 2013, 19:35
Still processing! ::)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 23 April 2013, 21:07
Ordered mine on the 8th of April... still 'Processing'.. the dealer said GTI build dates for the first allocation would be assigned this week (fingers crossed) until then I'll just have to keep checking :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 23 April 2013, 21:36
the dealer said GTI build dates for the first allocation would be assigned this week

Funny enough I got a similar message from my dealer last week... Ie "build dates were being assigned this week". I wait with bated breath!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 23 April 2013, 22:25
July is my guess.

I think most of our cars ordered so far will be on the same boat.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 29 April 2013, 20:24
What build week are we on as of today?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 April 2013, 21:16
What build week are we on as of today?

Well, this is week 18 in business terms.  I'm assuming they use the same ISO standard or whatever it is to determine what 'build' week it is.

I really shouldn't be guessing though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 29 April 2013, 21:39
I think I may have pressed the refresh button 10,000 times now  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 April 2013, 22:00
I think I may have pressed the refresh button 10,000 times now  :cry:

 :grin: :grin:not just me then!! I must check it 20 times a day even though I know deep down its probably a month away from updating!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 29 April 2013, 22:32
At least you have an order number to play with.  I've got nothing!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 April 2013, 22:52
At least you have an order number to play with.  I've got nothing!

You've got to chase him in that!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 April 2013, 07:48
What build week are we on as of today?

Well, this is week 18 in business terms.  I'm assuming they use the same ISO standard or whatever it is to determine what 'build' week it is.

I really shouldn't be guessing though.

Last week my dealer told me we were in build week 18 when he rang me for a status update to tell me that there was nothing to report, so this week should be 19, but you know what dealers are like.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 08:00
Week 22 is around the back end of May.  I've been told to ring my dealer to finalise spec changes w/c Monday 27th May.  Until then, nobody is going to hear anything.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 30 April 2013, 08:14
Just had a thought, with the alleged build dates for the GTI and GTD commencing Week 22, and a price increase coming in on May 1st, if we were to decide to add any options to our cars before the build week was finalised, but after May 1st, would that mean the whole car would be re-priced at the May 2013 prices, or just the ordered extras ?

I'm specifically thinking that when the MY14 changes and new options are finally unveiled, there might be a couple of new gadgets we might want, but this could really affect the price. For example, on an average £30k car, the new price increase (as I understand it at 1%), would add £300 automatically to the price, so by adding a £200 option, it might actually cost you £500 !

Anyone have any idea how this works ?

Not that I'm saying I'm going to add any more options of course  :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 08:21
That's a really good point.  When I spoke to a guy at the dealership, it sounded like VW will price honour everything ordered prior to the price increase, but anything added after will be 1% extra.  I think I'll call today to find out.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 30 April 2013, 09:00
This is really useful for working out build weeks:

http://www.epochconverter.com/date-and-time/weeknumbers-by-year.php
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 30 April 2013, 09:17
This is really useful for working out build weeks:

http://www.epochconverter.com/date-and-time/weeknumbers-by-year.php

Very useful, thanks. My guess is that the earliest any of us will be taking delivery is mid July - at a push.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 April 2013, 09:25
I still think if you ordered early then it will be June.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 30 April 2013, 09:39
I still think if you ordered early then it will be June.

Depends if you've ordered direct through a VW dealer or from an online broker which tends to get passed onto a VW fleet department, like me.

I think my delivery will be more like mid-August or even early September.

I'm bracing myself for September delivery now (after reading all advice and learning a bit more about buying through an online broker (great price... longer deliver).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 April 2013, 10:42
Depends if you've ordered direct through a VW dealer or from an online broker which tends to get passed onto a VW fleet department, like me.

I think my delivery will be more like mid-August or even early September.

I'm bracing myself for September delivery now (after reading all advice and learning a bit more about buying through an online broker (great price... longer deliver).

63 plates though!  I actually wouldn't mind at all if it were September as I'm still saving up to pay for it.  Every month delayed is cash I don't have to borrow, woo!

And Norbreck, you better not add any more options.  They'll be running out of places to fit them on your car!  :drool: hehe
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 10:50
I have a new private plate waiting for it, so I just want the car! lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: p3asa on 30 April 2013, 11:02
Just had a thought, with the alleged build dates for the GTI and GTD commencing Week 22, and a price increase coming in on May 1st, if we were to decide to add any options to our cars before the build week was finalised, but after May 1st, would that mean the whole car would be re-priced at the May 2013 prices, or just the ordered extras ?


When I was looking at my last Golf just before the price increase, I was told by the dealer I would pay the price agreed i.e. the price before the increase. However if I was to add options or change the order in some way after the price increase, the only way for them to do it is to open the whole order which automatically triggers the new price for the car and extras so in effect you pay the new price for everything.

However that might not be such a bad thing as 3 of the options I picked on my recent Audi (paint, heated seats, priv glass) all came down in price with the new price list!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 12:11
I just spoke to my dealer about this, and can confirm what p3asa was told.  Any changes after the price increase will automatically trigger a new price for the entire car and extras.  So, I need to decide whether I'm going pull the trigger on the PP and heated screen/phone prep options in the next hour really!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 April 2013, 12:15
I think you've already made your mind up!? :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 12:19
I think you've already made your mind up!? :evil:

Damn those devils on my shoulders! :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 April 2013, 13:08
I think you've already made your mind up!? :evil:

Damn those devils on my shoulders! :evil:

Mwah ha ha....... :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 13:39
Trigger pulled, head blown off...can't wait!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 30 April 2013, 14:59
Trigger pulled, head blown off...can't wait!  :laugh:

Must be the day for it, same here  :grin:, gonna be a long few months now.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 April 2013, 15:02
Gives me time to save up for the inevitable insurance rise! :sick:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 April 2013, 16:08
So presumable a price change is triggered if you want to remove an option as well as if you want to add one.  Guess its too late for me now if I decide I made a mistake with those leather seats.  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 16:35
So presumable a price change is triggered if you want to remove an option as well as if you want to add one.  Guess its too late for me now if I decide I made a mistake with those leather seats.  :sad:

Leather huh?  That's DCC and PP pricing...

Unfortunately yes, it cuts both ways, it's a change to the spec.  The only exception to this is the addition of the Heated Front Windscreen if requested before the increase, because it is still not on their systems to add at the moment.  But, VW have called my dealer and said that even though it will have to be added after the price increase, the old pricing will still be honoured.

You'd need to make a decision quick and get the order updated and put through if you want to remove it.

I spoke about delivery estimates, and with the MY14 change, he basically said don't be surprised to get an early-to-mid August delivery.  He said that nobody knows anything at the moment because all GTI orders are in a queue, and no build dates have been assigned yet.  Better to set low expectations and be pleasantly surprised I guess.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 30 April 2013, 20:04
I can't comment on how much truth there is in this... but...

When I ordered mine (08/04) the dealer said they had four allocations for GTI's for June, the first of which I got. That further allocations would be given to them on a 'as and when basis', as of yesterday they said they'd taken orders for seven in total now but don't expect any further orders to be delivered before the end of the year.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 30 April 2013, 20:16
I ordered today and they said by august, if it ends up being that late I'll wait until Sept to register.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 20:23
I can't comment on how much truth there is in this... but...

When I ordered mine (08/04) the dealer said they had four allocations for GTI's for June, the first of which I got. That further allocations would be given to them on a 'as and when basis', as of yesterday they said they'd taken orders for seven in total now but don't expect any further orders to be delivered before the end of the year.

Yeah, my retailer said that they typically get around 8 or 9 GTI allocations per year.  At the time of placing my initial order, I was the first one to order a Mk7.  I got told today that it would be around August, so I'm just going by that in terms of my expectations.  Gives me 4 months to save up insurance as Jimble said, and a cash buffer in bank before the payments start!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 April 2013, 23:29
they said they'd taken orders for seven in total now but don't expect any further orders to be delivered before the end of the year.

Ouch.

I ordered today and they said by august, if it ends up being that late I'll wait until Sept to register.

You can do that?  Won't the dealer do it automatically as soon as the thing arrives their end?  Surely they won't want to wait, they want your MONEY!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 April 2013, 23:37
they said they'd taken orders for seven in total now but don't expect any further orders to be delivered before the end of the year.

Ouch.

I ordered today and they said by august, if it ends up being that late I'll wait until Sept to register.

You can do that?  Won't the dealer do it automatically as soon as the thing arrives their end?  Surely they won't want to wait, they want your MONEY!


If you want to leave it till sept you can just agree with the dealer upfront, mine was ordered as the books opened with the agreement that i'll take it sept 1st, originally it meant it'd be sat in the dealer compound for a couple of months but since i added the PP who knows?? :'(
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 April 2013, 23:41
I might well ask my dealer about this then.  I really want it now, but then those 63 plates and some extra cash would be real nice.

EDIT:
On the other hand, if it arrives early August and I know its there how long before I crack and tell them I'm coming to get it? haha
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 30 April 2013, 23:47
I might well ask my dealer about this then.  I really want it now, but then those 63 plates and some extra cash would be real nice.

EDIT:
On the other hand, if it arrives early August and I know its there how long before I crack and tell them I'm coming to get it? haha

That's the problem, I've said if it arrives in AUG then I'm waiting for '63' but if it arrives earlier then I am sat on that tartan as soon as possible.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 01 May 2013, 05:26
Haha, this is one dilemma that I'm happy to say I don't need to worry about!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 01 May 2013, 07:02
When I paid my deposit which was before Easter I said 63 reg please. When I found out they couldn't fax my order off until the tues after the bank hol I said I will take it ASAP (JUne she said). At least then I know I keep my place in the queue and they don't give my car to someone else who wants one earlier. I wonder if this ever happens if an identical car is ordered??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 01 May 2013, 11:42
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 01 May 2013, 11:45
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

Ouch, hope they're wrong and you get it sooner.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 May 2013, 12:20
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

You're the first person here to get a build date. Were you the first allocated order of your dealership? If so then it would imply that no-one else will get one any earlier. If mine is available June/July i'm having it, if it's available in Aug I would want to hang on for the new plate.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 01 May 2013, 12:40
Just out of interest, what date did you order your GTD?

That is outrageous, I'm afraid your dealer needs a rocket up his a$$ - week 33 is ridiculous, its not a ferrari!!  :shocked:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 01 May 2013, 13:10
I ordered my gtd on 3rd april, a week after orders opened.

All the sales reps were not very familiar with the specs etc and that it was even available to order, so I assume I was one of the first few to order in gti/gtd spec.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 01 May 2013, 13:28
If you were one of the first to order, I'm staggered by this build week.  Only two explanations therefore - either your dealer wasn't allocated a GTD till then (is it a small dealership as this would make sense, although not having a slot for 10 weeks isn't acceptable and they should have told you this) OR your dealer is a numpty and it should be week 23 not 33.  I cannot believe its week 33, it has to be a mistake given your ordered that early - I'll be very interested to know what comes up on your order tracker.

Thought of a 3rd option - it actually is week 33 and we are witnessing the start of yet another complete f7ck up by VW a la the Mk 6.

 :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 01 May 2013, 13:37
If you were one of the first to order, I'm staggered by this build week.  Only two explanations therefore - either your dealer wasn't allocated a GTD till then (is it a small dealership as this would make sense, although not having a slot for 10 weeks isn't acceptable and they should have told you this) OR your dealer is a numpty and it should be week 23 not 33.  I cannot believe its week 33, it has to be a mistake given your ordered that early - I'll be very interested to know what comes up on your order tracker.

Thought of a 3rd option - it actually is week 33 and we are witnessing the start of yet another complete f7ck up by VW a la the Mk 6.

 :sad:

Cheers,

Just what I have been thinking too. I wait with baited breath to see what the VW online tracker comes up with.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 01 May 2013, 13:42
Just to add some perspective, and to stop Rick topping himself, when I ordered my Scirocco back in summer 2009, it took over 5 months to arrive!

However, at that time the Scirocco was in short supply and demand was immense.

Needless to say it was a terrible wait :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 01 May 2013, 13:50
Just to add some perspective, and to stop Rick topping himself, when I ordered my Scirocco back in summer 2009, it took over 5 months to arrive!

However, at that time the Scirocco was in short supply and demand was immense.

Needless to say it was a terrible wait :whistle:

How on earth does that make poor Rick feel any better?

 :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 01 May 2013, 13:54
Firstly its a Bank Holiday in Germany today, so I wouldn't think the factory would update it today, but could be wrong.

Secondly, I thought the GTD launch date was later in the year, GTi June and GTD July or August? Meaning they may not start making GTD's till later?

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 01 May 2013, 13:59
Firstly its a Bank Holiday in Germany today, so I wouldn't think the factory would update it today, but could be wrong.

Secondly, I thought the GTD launch date was later in the year, GTi June and GTD July or August? Meaning they may not start making GTD's till later?

Dave

I did not know this, I (wrongly) assumed the GTD was also being launched in June.  In that case Rick you will one of the first to get one, happy days!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 01 May 2013, 14:12
I am not too overly fussed when it actually arrives to be frank, although having it tomorrow rather than in 6 months would be good. However I should have known this a month ago when I ordered

I may have made the mistake in not actually asking if they had an allocation etc, however if they tell me its going to be an early august delivery at the latest then I expect this to be the case.

Anyway, a couple of different vw dealers have told me that they all work on a 16 week delivery at the most to cover themselves. If they do not meet this vw will provide you with a replacement vehicle in the meantime. Can any of you guys tell me whether this is more bull or not ????
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Exonian on 01 May 2013, 14:12
Yes, in all the original press releases it said the GTD was coming later than the GTI
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Exonian on 01 May 2013, 14:15
I am not too overly fussed when it actually arrives to be frank, although having it tomorrow rather than in 6 months would be good. However I should have known this a month ago when I ordered

I may have made the mistake in not actually asking if they had an allocation etc, however if they tell me its going to be an early august delivery at the latest then I expect this to be the case.

Anyway, a couple of different vw dealers have told me that they all work on a 16 week delivery at the most to cover themselves. If they do not meet this vw will provide you with a replacement vehicle in the meantime. Can any of you guys tell me whether this is more bull or not ????
VW were providing cars in the mk6 days
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 01 May 2013, 14:32
VW were providing cars in the mk6 days

What do you think they'll give you?  An Up!? hehehe.

Actually I kinda like the Up!  I think my wife should have one, but I just blew all our savings on my GTI so she's not getting one anytime soon (I'm so bad).

Would be cool if they gave you a GT for a could of weeks.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sam67GTD on 01 May 2013, 14:39
I spoke to my dealer yesterday and he told me that the system has me down for Week 35 (end August!). He seems to think that the system will settle down and hopefully it might be Week 23 or something close.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: evo1986 on 01 May 2013, 14:45
I am not too overly fussed when it actually arrives to be frank, although having it tomorrow rather than in 6 months would be good. However I should have known this a month ago when I ordered

I may have made the mistake in not actually asking if they had an allocation etc, however if they tell me its going to be an early august delivery at the latest then I expect this to be the case.

Anyway, a couple of different vw dealers have told me that they all work on a 16 week delivery at the most to cover themselves. If they do not meet this vw will provide you with a replacement vehicle in the meantime. Can any of you guys tell me whether this is more bull or not ????
VW were providing cars in the mk6 days

You only get a car 16 weeks from the date the factory accept the order on models that have been in production for more than 12 months.

Because the mk7 has been out for less than 12 months I am certain you wouldn't be given a courtesy car till 20 weeks from the date the order was accepted......

I love all these dealers almost promising 16 week delivery.........good luck managing customer expectations.....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 01 May 2013, 14:51
I love all these dealers almost promising 16 week delivery.........good luck managing customer expectations.....

Lee, what is your estimate?  If we're talking a probably mid-august delivery or later then I'm gonna ask if I can wait for the 63 plate.  Obviously there will be some variation depending on who ordered when and what allocation the dealer had left, but lets talk 'means' here for those who ordered in the last month or so.  August or you think sooner?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Exonian on 01 May 2013, 14:51
I am not too overly fussed when it actually arrives to be frank, although having it tomorrow rather than in 6 months would be good. However I should have known this a month ago when I ordered

I may have made the mistake in not actually asking if they had an allocation etc, however if they tell me its going to be an early august delivery at the latest then I expect this to be the case.

Anyway, a couple of different vw dealers have told me that they all work on a 16 week delivery at the most to cover themselves. If they do not meet this vw will provide you with a replacement vehicle in the meantime. Can any of you guys tell me whether this is more bull or not ????
VW were providing cars in the mk6 days

You only get a car 16 weeks from the date the factory accept the order on models that have been in production for more than 12 months.

Because the mk7 has been out for less than 12 months I am certain you wouldn't be given a courtesy car till 20 weeks from the date the order was accepted......

I love all these dealers almost promising 16 week delivery.........good luck managing customer expectations.....

 :grin: Amen to that!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 01 May 2013, 15:03
Am I the first with a confirmed build date?

I just contacted my dealer and he says my GTI is currently scheduled for production on Week 20, day 5! I really wasn't expecting that, judging from what I read on here.

I'm in Ireland, if that makes any shred of difference...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: evo1986 on 01 May 2013, 15:04
I love all these dealers almost promising 16 week delivery.........good luck managing customer expectations.....

Lee, what is your estimate?  If we're talking a probably mid-august delivery or later then I'm gonna ask if I can wait for the 63 plate.  Obviously there will be some variation depending on who ordered when and what allocation the dealer had left, but lets talk 'means' here for those who ordered in the last month or so.  August or you think sooner?

From the date you placed the order I would expect delivery to be in the region of 4-6 months.

Some will get lucky and get them sooner and trust me some who ordered later than the early ones may get them sooner. Once we get to actually see and drive the car then delivery times will get silly into 6 months+
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 01 May 2013, 15:06
I love all these dealers almost promising 16 week delivery.........good luck managing customer expectations.....

Lee, what is your estimate?  If we're talking a probably mid-august delivery or later then I'm gonna ask if I can wait for the 63 plate.  Obviously there will be some variation depending on who ordered when and what allocation the dealer had left, but lets talk 'means' here for those who ordered in the last month or so.  August or you think sooner?
From the date you placed the order I would expect delivery to be in the region of 4-6 months.

Wow. :shocked: Ok, good to know.  Guess I won't have to worry about getting the new plates then!
Cheers

EDIT:
Oh bugger, I just realised I'm not gonna get to use the sun roof this summer.  I am, of course, assuming we're getting a summer, which is probably a mistake in itself!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sam67GTD on 01 May 2013, 15:14
Am I the first with a confirmed build date?

I just contacted my dealer and he says my GTI is currently scheduled for production on Week 20, day 5! I really wasn't expecting that, judging from what I read on here.

I'm in Ireland, if that makes any shred of difference...

I would worry about your car Joe, day 5 is a Friday and you know what they say about anything built on a Friday!!  :whistle:
I'm just jealous, currently down for week 35 and really hoping that will change  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 01 May 2013, 15:16
Here's the lowdown from the conversation I've just had with my dealer:

They told me my car is in 'V' status, which means it's ordered with factory but not been allocated a build week (bw).

They said the GTI production has been delayed and will now be built at the same time as the GTD on the line (due to unspecified delays with its launch).

Basically all GTI/GTD orders are on hold until bw 22. Many will not show up on the VW tracking site until then, even if the car has been acknowledged by the factory in Germany.

So, many of us will not find out our build weeks until bw 22-23.

What else, they said to expect a 20 week wait from start of order which would put many of us at delivery end of August (bw 35).

So, its exactly like my Scirocco order back in 2009... 5 months from order to build. Sheesh.

That's all I know but I thought I'd share it with you information hungry folks :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Exonian on 01 May 2013, 15:22
Nice one H-F-O


Well if the cars get too popular there will be a lucrative market in selling your build slot!!!  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 01 May 2013, 15:28
Can't believe it..... That's the most depressing news I've heard in ages.... August!!!!! I'm gonna go slit my wrists  :cry:

Could explain why my dealer was so keen for me to sign on the dotted line.. If I had known the wait was going be this long I may looked at other alternatives....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 01 May 2013, 15:31
Can't believe it..... That's the most depressing news I've heard in ages.... August!!!!! I'm gonna go slit my wrists  :cry:

Could explain why my dealer was so keen for me to sign on the dotted line.. If I had known the wait was going be this long I may looked at other alternatives....

I wouldn't worry just yet, these things have a habit of changing.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 01 May 2013, 15:32
Can't believe it..... That's the most depressing news I've heard in ages.... August!!!!! I'm gonna go slit my wrists  :cry:

Chin up!  Just think how early it will be compared to people making orders now.  We're the lucky ones who will be driving around in our shiny new GTIs while everyone else is still refreshing the order tracker once every minute for another 6 months.

Ok, so I'm clutching at straws... but still, half full?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 01 May 2013, 15:35
Am I the first with a confirmed build date?

I just contacted my dealer and he says my GTI is currently scheduled for production on Week 20, day 5! I really wasn't expecting that, judging from what I read on here.

I'm in Ireland, if that makes any shred of difference...

I would worry about your car Joe, day 5 is a Friday and you know what they say about anything built on a Friday!!  :whistle:
I'm just jealous, currently down for week 35 and really hoping that will change  :rolleyes:

Haha!
I'm a bit skeptical to be honest, judging by everyone's posts on here... how can I have a build week of 20 when everyone here either has no build date at all or something ridiculous like mid August? Surely if they are building my GTI, then there is no hold up on the production line? Different production line for different markets? Hardly...

Having said that, when I ordered my MK6 GTD I also had it within approx 9-10 weeks of ordering... and people on here were waiting twice as long as that if not longer. Maybe VW are slower for some markets, for whatever reason.






Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 01 May 2013, 15:36
So basically its the same nonsense as the Mk 6 GTI.  I don't think anyone should hold their breath for a delivery day prior to 1st September.  I know some of you will see the benefit in that with the new 63 plate but I certainly don't - as much as I expected this to happen I'm still very disappointed that it will now be September before I get my hands on my car.

(unts  :angry:

(excuse the language!)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 01 May 2013, 15:51
Can't believe it..... That's the most depressing news I've heard in ages.... August!!!!! I'm gonna go slit my wrists  :cry:

Chin up!  Just think how early it will be compared to people making orders now.  We're the lucky ones who will be driving around in our shiny new GTIs while everyone else is still refreshing the order tracker once every minute for another 6 months.

Ok, so I'm clutching at straws... but still, half full?

I'll just add that quite often they are not built or delivered in sequence of the date they're ordered. In reality someone could order next week and receive their car before someone who ordered on day 1.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 01 May 2013, 15:53
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Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 01 May 2013, 16:07
Can't believe it..... That's the most depressing news I've heard in ages.... August!!!!! I'm gonna go slit my wrists  :cry:

Chin up!  Just think how early it will be compared to people making orders now.  We're the lucky ones who will be driving around in our shiny new GTIs while everyone else is still refreshing the order tracker once every minute for another 6 months.


Hahaha..... I like your positive outlook Bear!!! Maybe I should take a leaf out of your book, but which ever way you spin it there's no getting away from the fact that we may be looking at 5-6 months before we take delivery of our "Shiny new GTi's !!! Lol.... That's like nearly half a years wait!!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 01 May 2013, 16:28
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

As a recent newcomer to the forum I would like to apologise to the many on here who will have taken the news I passed on today the wrong way. :cry:

Please do not kick the dog or take it out on her in doors as a result of me. I dont have a dog or a missus so dont have that luxury tonite and dont want to feel guilty. :sad:

Instead I will raid the bottom shelf of my cooler and may even polish my mk6, seen as I am now going to be driving it around another 5 months :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 01 May 2013, 18:28
Spoke to my dealer... said there is an issue with the build system at VW for the GTI and that they have 'parked' the order in a build slot in 'November' <gulp!> until they have rectified the issue  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 May 2013, 18:42
I won't be happy at all if I'm made to wait until September. VW website says order books open for sale in June. if they can't do what they say and deliver by June then I'll be cancelling my order!! VW customer services have said unconfirmed week 22 for a build, 1 week to build, 24 hours shipping etc. was told I'd have my order in June.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 01 May 2013, 18:53
I won't be happy at all if I'm made to wait until September. VW website says order books open for sale in June. if they can't do what they say and deliver by June then I'll be cancelling my order!! VW customer services have said unconfirmed week 22 for a build, 1 week to build, 24 hours shipping etc. was told I'd have my order in June.

From what I have learned today from my dealer and others on here I very much doubt that you will get delivery in June.

Unless of course VW are up to old tricks and don't actually know themselves when they will be built, therefore commencing a merry-go-round of Chinese whispers.

I think for the moment, working to the theory that you will only know for definite when you will get your car, will be when you drive it out of the showroom. :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jules Winfield on 01 May 2013, 20:18
Six months?  Pah!  I waited eight months (and one day) for my GTD.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mortimerchris on 01 May 2013, 20:28
Six months?  Pah!  I waited eight months (and one day) for my GTD.

lol - I did 9 months time for my Scirocco,
6 months the first time round to find my options hadn't been added,
Then 3 months as per my original order.
Still managed a c class paid for by the garage the last 3 months.

Looks like a GTI for Christmas at this rate
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 01 May 2013, 21:32
This is getting "more" depressing by the minute... :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 01 May 2013, 21:42
This is getting "more" depressing by the minute... :cry:

Agreed  :angry: :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 01 May 2013, 21:44
I'm setting my expectations for August, and more than happy to wait in all honesty as I can save more towards it.  The closer it is to winter, the sooner I'll be able to use my heated seats and heated windscreen  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 01 May 2013, 21:55
I don't mind a delay either. It means I can drive my current Scirocco for a little while longer knowing my trade in value is fixed...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 01 May 2013, 22:01
Exactly, there is nothing bad about being forced to wait, other than just waiting!  Well, unless your current car is nicked or written off, in which case a trade could be tough!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mortimerchris on 02 May 2013, 12:07
Exactly, there is nothing bad about being forced to wait, other than just waiting!  Well, unless your current car is nicked or written off, in which case a trade could be tough!  :grin:

Or if your contract hire car goes back in JUNE wit no extension option!
bus/train w**ker I will be!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 02 May 2013, 13:51
Or if your contract hire car goes back in JUNE wit no extension option!
bus/train w**ker I will be!

Aye, that's a bit of an awkward one huh?!  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jules Winfield on 02 May 2013, 19:26
Six months?  Pah!  I waited eight months (and one day) for my GTD.

lol - I did 9 months time for my Scirocco,
6 months the first time round to find my options hadn't been added,
Then 3 months as per my original order.
Still managed a c class paid for by the garage the last 3 months.

Looks like a GTI for Christmas at this rate

I ordered my GTD on 28/02/2010.  I would call the dealer up every couple of weeks for an update.  One day I phoned and they couldn't give an update, and my usual salesman was unavailable.  VW had no idea either.  After a couple of weeks of much faffing about, it transpired that VW had lost the order from its computer systems (apparently it happens from time to time) and the dealer ended up having to re-order the car.  On 29/10/2010, I finally took delivery.  For the last two months, I had a dealer-provided Polo; the dealer principal (who was heavily involved at that point) said that they'd be compensated by VW for their screw-up (loss of P/X value - fortunately for me, the value was fixed when I placed the order).

It's not terribly reassuring, three years later, to find that VW are still a shambles.  The configurator on the web site and the brochures don't match, and the brochure is full of meaningless marketing mumbo jumbo.  They have no idea when people's cars are being built and the dealers have no idea whether option X is compatible with option Y.  Their only saving grace is their cars - I'm not planning on changing for another couple of years, but when I do, the only candidate is another GTD.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Chriscav on 02 May 2013, 19:34
I ordered about 2 weeks ago and have been tokd week 35 for build week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 02 May 2013, 19:54
I know mines a GTD (not a GTI), but I ordered 2 weeks ago, and on the "track your order" bit of the VW website, my order number is still showing as " sorry, your order number not recognised" (despite the dealer saying everything's still on track). However, the wife's Polo Blue GT I ordered on the same date, had an "order processing" with 4 days, and for the last week and a bit is showing as "build week confirmed" ?

Should I be concerned for my car ? Anyone here with a GTD on order at least got an "order processing" from the site ?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 May 2013, 20:04
I've had order processing and then it's gone. phone the salesman and get him/her to find our from VW uk
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 02 May 2013, 20:05
Unfortunately, I expect VW aren't the only culprits! I've had similar experiences with other marques.

On almost all occasions, I've known more about the car, options, lead times & technical stuff than the dealer itself.  At the end of the day 'most' of the sales guys are just "SALES" guys (& girls) who have no interest in the product they're selling whatsoever... Just interested in meeting their monthly targets.  It's just a job to them at the end of the day & they would be just as happy selling fitted kitchens.

It's the sad fact of life.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 02 May 2013, 21:06
I think that might be true in some cases, but I wouldn't say it's true of all Salesmen. That will depend on the individual and the company they work for. Ever since the order for my GTI, that had a June delivery date (initially), I've been kept informed of every conversation and update from VW regarding it's build.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 May 2013, 21:18
I think that might be true in some cases, but I wouldn't say it's true of all Salesmen. That will depend on the individual and the company they work for. Ever since the order for my GTI, that had a June delivery date (initially), I've been kept informed of every conversation and update from VW regarding it's build.

Your good experience not withstanding I think there is a point to be made here.  These guys (gals) are trying to shift volume, and that means they have to sell Polos and Golfs, not GTIs.  So think about it, when the GTI isn't even being sold yet are they rushing to find out and know all the possible details about it like we are?  Why would they?  Their effort is going into their bread and butter work.  They don't even need to push the GTI it sells itself and their slots are going to be taken well before they can "sell" a car to someone who wonders into the showroom and isn't sure exactly what model they want.  And any way they'll make the most if they can get such a person to buy something off their forecourt not order some high spec machine and then bargain down the price like we all want to do.

I'm just saying its not surprising we all know more than them and their system is a bit of a mess.  Thats no excuse though, the information should be there for them to get when we ask questions, even if they haven't learnt it by wrote the second it became available.  I think this is more a VW or VW UK issue than a dealer issue.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 02 May 2013, 21:24
I think that might be true in some cases, but I wouldn't say it's true of all Salesmen. That will depend on the individual and the company they work for. Ever since the order for my GTI, that had a June delivery date (initially), I've been kept informed of every conversation and update from VW regarding it's build.

Yes, you're quite right not "ALL" salesmen (& women) should be tarnished with the same brush. I have nothing against salesmen... In fact I find the ones I've dealt with rather pleasant and would bend over backwards to be of assistance.  It's just a shame their product knowledge is shockingly deficient!!!

I've probably just been unlucky in my dealings with them.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 May 2013, 21:43
It's just a shame their product knowledge is shockingly deficient!!!

I think they just have no reason to know anything about the GTI...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 02 May 2013, 21:54
Ever since the order for my GTI, that had a June delivery date (initially), I've been kept informed of every conversation and update from VW regarding it's build.

Ever since I placed my order back in February, I have yet to hear anything from my dealer. On the occasions I have phoned him up & chased him on the issue he was none the wiser with regards to build dates or lead times.

He's the nicest guy you could ever meet but I find the whole thing frustrating. I don't blame him personally though, because he only knows what VW UK tell him.  I'd be interested to know what sort of updates you've been getting from your deer with regards to your build?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 May 2013, 21:57
Mine promises to call or email at least once every 3 weeks with an update.

I'll let you know what happens!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 02 May 2013, 22:07
Bear.. You're quite right! They don't need to know anything, as you quite rightly pointed out.. "The car sells itself".... But it would be nice though  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 May 2013, 22:26
I'm not letting them off the hook though, its a problem they can't find out the info, give consistent answers and make their on-line systems work properly.

Then again, how many of us have cancelled our GTIs and placed an order for an ST instead?  Its probably not their no1 priority.   :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 03 May 2013, 00:21
The order book for the GTI (with VW) was only open from April as far as I'm aware. So if you placed an order with your dealer prior to this date, all you are doing is (hopefully) getting first dibs on that dealers allocation slot. To be processed when VW start taking orders.

As I understand it, at present there is an issue with the assembly process. All orders for GTI's have been 'parked' until this is resolved. No GTI has a valid build date at present. Once this is resolved, they will be processed, manufactured and delivered in date order, no matter what the specification. (As the only spec related delay was the DSG which is now not an issue).


Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 03 May 2013, 01:11
As I understand it, at present there is an issue with the assembly process. All orders for GTI's have been 'parked' until this is resolved. No GTI has a valid build date at present. Once this is resolved, they will be processed, manufactured and delivered in date order, no matter what the specification. (As the only spec related delay was the DSG which is now not an issue).

Thanks for the update GtG.  Why my dealer couldn't tell me that I don't know...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 03 May 2013, 01:18
The order book for the GTI (with VW) was only open from April as far as I'm aware. So if you placed an order with your dealer prior to this date, all you are doing is (hopefully) getting first dibs on that dealers allocation slot. To be processed when VW start taking orders.

Sorry did I say i placed my order in February??? My 'Bad'....  What I meant to say was 'March'... Just feels longer  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 03 May 2013, 07:52
I don't understand why you guys are being fobbed off and being told GTI production is being "parked"??? I have a confirmed build date, week 20. Surely if they are building my car, they are building others too! It seems the UK market gets a raw deal in terms of order lead time for whatever reason.
This will be my 3rd GTI/GTd and I've never waited more than 8-9 weeks for any of them.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 May 2013, 08:07
Looks like VW are looking after their Eurozone markets first before the UK. We get good spec for our money - we generally pay less than the Germans for an equivalently specced VW, but their finance rates are amazing (1.9% currently). VW do like to make us wait though, the UK generally are about 3 months behind the rest of Eurpoe when new VW models are launched.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 03 May 2013, 09:12
Interesting that that's the case for you Joe, clearly its better to order a car in Ireland than in England!  What I don't understand is that sales across Europe are down, even in Germany, for VW.  In fact, the only area that is showing growth in terms of car sales is the UK - which makes our lead times even more p!ss poor and disgusting - not looking after their only growth market is an outrage!  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 03 May 2013, 10:16
Interesting that that's the case for you Joe, clearly its better to order a car in Ireland than in England! What I don't understand is that sales across Europe are down, even in Germany, for VW.  In fact, the only area that is showing growth in terms of car sales is the UK - which makes our lead times even more p!ss poor and disgusting - not looking after their only growth market is an outrage!  :angry:

I'd rather pay our prices and wait a bit longer! :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 03 May 2013, 10:43
I'd rather pay our prices and wait a bit longer! :smiley:

A fair point well made!!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: golfgti5 on 04 May 2013, 07:55
Question, my GTi will be build in Kw20.

Model year 2014 starts in Kw22, does that mean that i get a model year 2013 or will the start with 2014 models right away?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 04 May 2013, 10:03
Question, my GTi will be build in Kw20.

Model year 2014 starts in Kw22, does that mean that i get a model year 2013 or will the start with 2014 models right away?

Interesting. I'm build week 20 too. Adds evidence that they are indeed building "euro zone" models ahead of the UK batch... Even though I'm also RHD?!
When did you order?

To answer your question, you'll get the 2013 model. I was the same when I got my mk6 GTD. I missed out on the new MY build by a week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 04 May 2013, 10:53
For the Irish customers I suppose you have to ask yourself whether there are going to be any significant MY14 additions compared to MY13. Will Irish spec GTI/GTDs get colour MFD as standard in MY2014 or is it standard already? Can VW confirm what MY2014 additions (if any) are going to be? If there is something worth waiting for you'd better get in quick to delay your order.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 04 May 2013, 11:26
For the Irish customers I suppose you have to ask yourself whether there are going to be any significant MY14 additions compared to MY13. Will Irish spec GTI/GTDs get colour MFD as standard in MY2014 or is it standard already? Can VW confirm what MY2014 additions (if any) are going to be? If there is something worth waiting for you'd better get in quick to delay your order.

The colour MFD is standard. Surprising, considering just about everything else is a costly option!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 04 May 2013, 11:30
JoeGTI: If you already have colour MFD standard on a MY13 model then unless VW feel they've been a bit stingy with the Irish you probably wouldn't get anything more on a MY14 car by waiting.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 04 May 2013, 11:34
JoeGTI: If you already have colour MFD standard on a MY13 model then unless VW feel they've been a bit stingy with the Irish you probably wouldn't get anything more on a MY14 car by waiting.

Oh I don't want to be waiting. The sooner it gets here the better!
Only pain is, the registration system has been changed here this year to be a bit like you guys. On July 1st, the plates change for 2nd half of the calendar year. I don't think I'd have the patience to ask the dealer to hold onto it on their forecourt for a month!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: golfgti5 on 04 May 2013, 13:54
Question, my GTi will be build in Kw20.

Model year 2014 starts in Kw22, does that mean that i get a model year 2013 or will the start with 2014 models right away?

Interesting. I'm build week 20 too. Adds evidence that they are indeed building "euro zone" models ahead of the UK batch... Even though I'm also RHD?!
When did you order?

To answer your question, you'll get the 2013 model. I was the same when I got my mk6 GTD. I missed out on the new MY build by a week.

I'm from the Netherlands, order date is 19 March.
The MY2014 is about 500 euro higher in the Netherlands then mine order from 19-3.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 05 May 2013, 21:15
Had an update (email) from VW forwarded to me today by my dealer. Do keep us posted re your week 20 build dates (on the magical assembly line run by unicorns)  :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 05 May 2013, 21:19
Had an update (email) from VW forwarded to me today by my dealer. Do keep us posted re your week 20 build dates (on the magical assembly line run by unicorns)  :evil:

No point saying you had an email of you're not going to tell everyone what it said.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 05 May 2013, 21:41
When I placed my order I was told wk23, but now last week was told week 35!! WTF!  Jump of 12 weeks meaning I won't see it until September!! anyone else in the uk and had similar? I know dealers get an allotment but I was told I was the first order for my dealer on the 29th march! Very annoyed.. Deler said he'd call VW uk and check, but not heard back and website still says processing order! Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 05 May 2013, 21:47
True... won't copy and paste the email as I don't think it should have been forwarded to me in the first place.

Key points tho:

1. No MK7 GTI has a valid build date at present, though dates may have been assigned
2. The issue is with the order processing system, not the build system as first thought
3. This issue is being resolved as quickly as possible, may take hours or days, then subject to testing
4. Orders to be processed by order date / number
5. No delays at present based on factory options

Whilst no promises were made, they said my expected delivery date is 01/07..  which I'm really hoping for :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 05 May 2013, 21:56
True... won't copy and paste the email as I don't think it should have been forwarded to me in the first place.

Key points tho:

1. No MK7 GTI has a valid build date at present, though dates may have been assigned
2. The issue is with the order processing system, not the build system as first thought
3. This issue is being resolved as quickly as possible, may take hours or days, then subject to testing
4. Orders to be processed by order date / number
5. No delays at present based on factory options

Whilst no promises were made, they said my expected delivery date is 01/07..  which I'm really hoping for :)

This is the first bit of promising news we've heard for ages. Thanks for sharing, hopefully the issues they've had are being ironed out & stories of a 12 week build week addition are VW just covering themselves for worst case scenario. A July delivery is certainly worth hoping for!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 05 May 2013, 21:58

True... won't copy and paste the email as I don't think it should have been forwarded to me in the first place.

Key points tho:

1. No MK7 GTI has a valid build date at present, though dates may have been assigned
2. The issue is with the order processing system, not the build system as first thought
3. This issue is being resolved as quickly as possible, may take hours or days, then subject to testing
4. Orders to be processed by order date / number
5. No delays at present based on factory options

Whilst no promises were made, they said my expected delivery date is 01/07..  which I'm really hoping for :)

I was originally told that all orders were parked at BW22 as no actual build weeks had been issued yet, i then added the performance pack and it went to BW44!!!  :o  My dealer then told me he'd been on to VW who said don't worry it wouldn't be that late and pretty much as above.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 05 May 2013, 22:18
Thanks for the update GtG... It's good to know that the hold up isn't anything "major"!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 May 2013, 07:59
I also got told that nothing would happen until week 22 which is when the switch to MY14 takes place.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 06 May 2013, 08:49
Oh dear,  now I gotta come up with the cash 2 months earlier!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 May 2013, 08:54
Why, when were you expecting yours Bear?  I'm still going by the August time-frame.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 06 May 2013, 09:51
I am new to this forum having up to this point owned 4 Civic Type-R 's.  However as soon as the books opened on March 26th I ordered a Golf GTI Performance, in Oryx White, Pro Sat Nav, Reversing Camera etc,. I was originally told I would have a build week of Week 20.  Then I was told out of the blue that VW want to fit another component as standard to the cars called ADC (Auto Distance Control) but as a result the Build Date would be put back to August.  The Franchise I ordered the car through are also having to wait until a speculated September delivery before they can get their Demo Car? 

I was also told that if you have the performance pack being fitted you were eligable to having the ADC fitted standard.  But if you were having the base spec GTI then you would retain your original build week and not have ADC fitted.

I find this a bit weird how so late in the day they can decide to place ADC on the cars as standard and then delay build dates for orders they already have placed for cars.  Something is not quite adding up right? 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 May 2013, 10:03
Welcome Brenbo, and I think you are just on the receiving end of a dealer that doesn't quite know the full story.  If you put all of our experiences together, you wouldn't place an order! lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 06 May 2013, 10:08
Yeah, doesn't sound right to me mate, as far as we're aware the dealer demo cars are being built prior to wk22 so they should be in the dealerships in june, ADC is standard on the GTI/D regardless of spec so him saying it's that that has put your build back to august is rubbish! VW are saying that there are issues with the build planning system atm that they know about and are trying to fix, they say that the builds will be done by order number apparently.

Welcome btw! :afro:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 06 May 2013, 11:37
Thanks for your replies

I thought it all sounded a bit suss!  When I ordered the car I am driving at present (Civic Type-R Championship White) I had to wait about 2 months to delivery.  I thought it would be something more like ordering systems being corrupt rather than the manufacturer deciding to add more equipment standard so late in the day, which would be the culprit of delaying the build week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 06 May 2013, 12:59
Yeah welcome Brenbo... Loving the CTR!!! Especially the Champion White Edition... Rare as hens teeth.

It's shocking what excuses the dealers are coming up with.  When I pressed mine for a build date last week, he basically told me he was more than 'Happy' to give me one... But then in the same sentence said there wasnt any point as it wouldn't tell me anything more than he already knew.. Which wasn't a lot!!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Exonian on 06 May 2013, 15:40
Thanks for your replies

I thought it all sounded a bit suss!  When I ordered the car I am driving at present (Civic Type-R Championship White) I had to wait about 2 months to delivery.  I thought it would be something more like ordering systems being corrupt rather than the manufacturer deciding to add more equipment standard so late in the day, which would be the culprit of delaying the build week.

Welcome Brenbo! Cornwall eh? I buzz down through Cornwall every couple of weeks, in fact I was in Newlyn on Saturday.
CTR is a pretty focussed machine, the GTI will certainly be different (much less revs and much more torque!).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 06 May 2013, 17:13
I have absolutely loved owning the Civic Type-R's. The high rev naturally aspirated engine will definitely be a different experience to the Golf, which I feel is going to be a fantastic change.  The power is all at the top end on the Civic's so to have a Golf GTi with more power at the bottom end, and a lot more Torque to boot will make driving a bit more exciting and refreshing.  I do have to say the Civic is still putting a smile on my face, but I cannot wait to get my hands on the GTI.  I also live in North Cornwall so most of you guys probably go straight past where I live if as you go down the A30 in to Cornwall. 

Also many thanks for making me feel welcome to the GTI forum.   

The way I feel at present with the build week thing, is to be honest a bit confused?  Is it going to be a case of us all waiting in limbo for a more accurate date to appear one day?  I am just glad I have all the cash for the car already saved and in a bank account to pay for it whenever it appears.  So if it's next week, next month or September like I am being told.  I will have the money to pay for it. 

As mentioned earlier I did not experience this with Honda on ordering the Championship White.  It was just a case of going in, ordering the car, getting a date there and then as I payed the deposit and then that was it until it was delivered on the day I was told.  So straight forward, easy and fuss free.  Why can't VW make the process as easy and accurate as Honda can.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 06 May 2013, 17:51
Week 25. (update from dealer)

Apparently the system updates are now done.

When is week 25? Mid June?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 06 May 2013, 17:55
Week 25. (update from dealer)

Apparently the system updates are now done.

When is week 25? Mid June?


Commences the 17th of june


Thats more like it! Thanks for the update, now lets see about the rest of us! :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 06 May 2013, 17:56
Week 25. (update from dealer)

Apparently the system updates are now done.

When is week 25? Mid June?

Does it show week 25 on the order tracker?

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 06 May 2013, 18:05
No, order tracker still shows processing.

I have a screenshot of the order system sent from my dealer today.
Shows week 25 :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 06 May 2013, 18:13
No, order tracker still shows processing.

I have a screenshot of the order system sent from my dealer today.
Shows week 25 :smiley:

Brill, thanks for the info  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 06 May 2013, 18:36
Thanks for the update! Fingers crossed its the same for the rest of us  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 06 May 2013, 18:40
GofTi: Was yours ordered on the 3rd? I wonder how much bearing colour has on build time. I suppose it depends upon how many active paint shops the Wolfsburg plant (assuming GTI/GTDs are being built there as opposed to the Belgian plant). If some paint shops are in rotation for colour (requiring full cleandowns between campaigns of a certain colour) then it could delay things a week or 2. I would expect dedicated paint shops for White and a few of the most common/popular colours.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 06 May 2013, 18:44
The boat will be full :laugh:

The amazing Wolfsburg factory can make 2000 cars a day.
A few GTIs... no bother.

Don't know what all the fuss is about :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 06 May 2013, 18:47
DSG might be delayed a bit ( look at the links on the tracker page).

Colour - I saw at least 10 different colours when I visited, it's not an issue.


BTW- all golfs are built in Wolfsburg except for the USA market.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 06 May 2013, 19:17
Hope the build date for the rest of us is going to be around week 25.  I originally had Week 20. 

However if configurations like paint colour etc, do have an effect on build dates, I will be later than some of you.  I have Oryx White configured on my car.  I don't think there is a high turnover for Oryx White spray jobs at the factory, due to the price. 

Hope I hear from my VW Dealer soon with a better, more realistic date than the last one of Week 34/35. 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 06 May 2013, 19:20
GolfTi: Have they finally closed the Belgian plant then, or maybe they don't make enough (given the current economic climate) to need 2 plants making the Golf? Those lucky yanks - Seen the price they pay for GTIs? $25k (£16k) and metallic paint is a free option! Theirs are made in Mexico, so labour is obviously cheaper, but even so, i'm sure Mexican VW metallic paint doesn't cost any less than ours.

My Dad is getting DSG, perhaps his will be a bit behind mine, although I did ask the question when ordering his and the dealer reckoned there was no current DSG delay.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 06 May 2013, 19:22
I saw a pearl-white Bentley at the Shell garage this morning - looked a bit odd. Is the Oryx white looking a bit less pearly than an actual white pearl? Must be hard picking a colour that you're unlikely to have seen in the flesh beyond the sample card.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 06 May 2013, 19:26
Certain options will delay the build slightly from my experience - eg. dsg, dynaudio (dammit  :angry:), special paint etc.  but....should only be a week or so  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 May 2013, 19:28
I saw a pearl-white Bentley at the Shell garage this morning - looked a bit odd. Is the Oryx white looking a bit less pearly than an actual white pearl? Must be hard picking a colour that you're unlikely to have seen in the flesh beyond the sample card.

I've seen a few pearl-white cars, from Mazda to Lexus, and they all look like a giant oyster shell (OK, I exaggerate but you get my drift!). They have a strange, almost feminine look, about them.  Of the photos and video I've seen, the ones that look the best to me are those that look like bright flat white, even if they aren't really, just dodgy white balance.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 06 May 2013, 19:33
Gryzor: Like it was hewn from the innards of a large oyster shell is exactly how the Bentley looked, and it was being driven by an NUFC WAG who must've been out to enjoy the Tynemouth coast today.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 06 May 2013, 19:36
Carbon Grey... all the way  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 06 May 2013, 19:38
GolfTi: Have they finally closed the Belgian plant then, or maybe they don't make enough (given the current economic climate) to need 2 plants making the Golf? Those lucky yanks - Seen the price they pay for GTIs? $25k (£16k) and metallic paint is a free option! Theirs are made in Mexico, so labour is obviously cheaper, but even so, i'm sure Mexican VW metallic paint doesn't cost any less than ours.

My Dad is getting DSG, perhaps his will be a bit behind mine, although I did ask the question when ordering his and the dealer reckoned there was no current DSG delay.
What Belgian plant?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 06 May 2013, 19:40
Think he means this one mate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl4uCT0jkFk
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 May 2013, 19:50
Gryzor: Like it was hewn from the innards of a large oyster shell is exactly how the Bentley looked, and it was being driven by an NUFC WAG who must've been out to enjoy the Tynemouth coast today.

Yup, it's the closest I can come to describing it, with all those green/pink rainbow hues.  The Oryx paint sample shows the same, and I definitely don't want my car shimmering like that.  Now, a nice bit of minimalist metal flake in an otherwise flat white could be quite nice.

Sorry guys, realise this is a bit off-topic.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 06 May 2013, 19:51
It should be OK to have Oryx White where I live.  If it really is too pearlesent I can park it amongst the Lobster pots and shell fish at the beach, which is where it will reside most of summer months anyway...  The beach that is not amongst lobster pots  :smiley:

I have seen a couple cars with Oryx White in the flesh and it really is not as bad as the other cars you describe.  It is a much flatter subtle pearl effect.  Not gawdy or tacky like some of the others do.  There was a special edition Golf R a year or two ago which was Oryx White.  I thought it actually looked quite smart... and to note it was also not feminine or WAG like.

Check out the link below for the Golf R in Oryx White, it actually looks quite smart.   

http://www.mad4wheels.com/webpics/hires/00007666%20-%202011%20Volkswagen%20Golf%20R%20Oryx%20White/2011_Volkswagen_Golf_R_Oryx_White_001_4232.jpg

Anyway back to the subject.  Good to hear some of us are getting earlier dates coming through. 
 


 

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 06 May 2013, 19:55
Gryzor: Like it was hewn from the innards of a large oyster shell is exactly how the Bentley looked, and it was being driven by an NUFC WAG who must've been out to enjoy the Tynemouth coast today.

Yup, it's the closest I can come to describing it, with all those green/pink rainbow hues.  The Oryx paint sample shows the same, and I definitely don't want my car shimmering like that.  Now, a nice bit of minimalist metal flake in an otherwise flat white could be quite nice.

Sorry guys, realise this is a bit off-topic.

I was talking to an old guy the other day, he'd recently took delivery of a brand new Peugeot 208. His wife chose the colour 'Rose Quartz', but she just told him it was a bronze metallic colour. He was moaning like hell as it looks bronze/gold metallic until the sun shines when it sparkles a lovely shade of pink.  :grin:

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 06 May 2013, 20:01
Oryx White - I think it's a fantastic white. No question. After all, its the only one really pushed in the marketing promos. Problem with it is the price. Just too damn expensive!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 06 May 2013, 20:08
Think he means this one mate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl4uCT0jkFk
:huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 06 May 2013, 20:15
Think he means this one mate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl4uCT0jkFk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl4uCT0jkFk)
???


It was going to close but Audi took it over and now build the A1 there.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 06 May 2013, 22:04
Challenged Stoke VW on their promise of a GTD for end May/start June which I was promised. They are now saying that cqrs will not start being built until week 32... Can anyone else chase their dealers and check this too??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 06 May 2013, 22:33
Challenged Stoke VW on their promise of a GTD for end May/start June which I was promised. They are now saying that cqrs will not start being built until week 32... Can anyone else chase their dealers and check this too??

I know I'm a GTI and not a GTD, but ill be chasing my dealer first thing tomorrow - if others have confirmed build dates then I want one too!  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 06 May 2013, 22:59
Challenged Stoke VW on their promise of a GTD for end May/start June which I was promised. They are now saying that cqrs will not start being built until week 32... Can anyone else chase their dealers and check this too??

I know I'm a GTI and not a GTD, but ill be chasing my dealer first thing tomorrow - if others have confirmed build dates then I want one too!  :)


I doubt they'll be confirmed mate, provisional would be my guess. :-\
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 07 May 2013, 07:55
Think he means this one mate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl4uCT0jkFk
:huh:

I did mean that one. It's on the outskirts of Brussels - looks like Audi have nabbed it from VW now. After reading a bit more into it, Golf production from there ceased completely in 2009.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 May 2013, 09:31
Wait, so wk25 or wk32? Anyone else heard from their dealer?  I'm away in Switzerland and the suspense is killing me!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 07 May 2013, 09:36
Wait, so wk25 or wk32? Anyone else heard from their dealer?  I'm away in Switzerland and the suspense is killing me!

I'm trying Bear - my dealer is away this week  :angry: so I've emailed someone else - if I don't hear back by lunch I'll call them up - I'll let you know my progress (if any) which will hopefully prompt a few more to get onto their dealers for build dates!  :laugh:
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Post by: GtG on 07 May 2013, 09:41
Trying to call mine also (possibly driving him slightly mad) but that's what they're for right!?  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 07 May 2013, 09:58
Trying to call mine also (possibly driving him slightly mad) but that's what they're for right!?  :smiley:

 :grin: :grin: I always promise them I'm not going to hassle them - but I always do - can't control myself  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 07 May 2013, 10:09
Phoning mine today to change colour for mine and add my dad's warranty. I will ask him what the build week situation is with mine currently (assuming colour change won't push it down the queue).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 07 May 2013, 11:33
Just got off the phone with my dealer, he says it's gone from wk44 to unconfirmed wk35 26th aug, he says it's most likely because i've added the performance pack! :cry:

I was hoping to collect it the 1st of sept but it's looking like the end of sept beginning of oct! :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 07 May 2013, 11:36
Just got off the phone with my dealer, he says it's gone from wk44 to unconfirmed wk35 26th aug, he sats it's most likely because i've added the performance pack! :cry:

I was hoping to collect it the 1st of sept but it's looking like the end of sept beginning of oct! :sad:

Balls.  :angry:  Sorry to hear that Jimble.  My dealer has promised to get back to me today so I'm going to expect the same response.  Quite why these options delay the production of a car I don't know - but they clearly do, and it'll be worth the wait!  :smiley:

Highly annoying though.  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 07 May 2013, 11:45
Just got off the phone with my dealer, he says it's gone from wk44 to unconfirmed wk35 26th aug, he sats it's most likely because i've added the performance pack! :cry:

I was hoping to collect it the 1st of sept but it's looking like the end of sept beginning of oct! :sad:

Balls.  :angry:  Sorry to hear that Jimble.  My dealer has promised to get back to me today so I'm going to expect the same response.  Quite why these options delay the production of a car I don't know - but they clearly do, and it'll be worth the wait!  :smiley:

Highly annoying though.  :cry:

He seems to think it's because i added it after i'd placed the order and if i'd specced it originally it wouldn't have pushed it so far back, he also said it could potentially come forward a little more which from experience does happen but we'll see??
It's not a major issue for me as it's only a couple of weeks after i originally wanted to collect it but i can imagine there may be a few unhappy folk on here.

He also said standard GTI's he's ordered have BW 25 so far! :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 07 May 2013, 11:52
At least you have the right attitude about it - no point getting  :angry: as it is what it is - and it'll be worth the wait for the PP addition!

I would imagine all non stock cars will turn up later than the basic ones - that's just the way it is.  That date isn't set in stone like you say, you may be able to piggy back on another order (as long as its not mine!  :laugh:) and "nick" their car effectively if its the same spec - but I think that's something the dealer has to request??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 07 May 2013, 12:12
Just been told BW27  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 07 May 2013, 12:34
Just spoken to VW Customer Services, I've also been told Build Week 27 (but still unconfirmed), with an estimated delivery date of last week of July/first week of August ie. 4-6 weeks from build.

I am very happy with this news given I was expecting a mid September delivery as per usual!!  :smiley: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 May 2013, 13:09
I couldnt take it any longer so I emailed Lucie. Here is what she emailed back:

Quote
We have had a scheduled week from the factory of 36, this is not confirmed so not set in stone so will hopefully come forward.

So currently I can't expect delivery until October  :sad:
But at least I get the new plates!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 07 May 2013, 13:45
Spoke to my dealer today to get a colour change (to Tornado Red) and he said that build weeks for GTI/GTD will not be assigned to orders until we are in MY14 (week 22). Only then will it be transparent when your car will be built. Everyone gets a different story!

One thing I forgot with mine last time - if you do take your car on the continent at all, don't forget to ask for EU/GB plates on the new car.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 07 May 2013, 14:07
Spoke to my dealer today to get a colour change (to Tornado Red) and he said that build weeks for GTI/GTD will not be assigned to orders until we are in MY14 (week 22). Only then will it be transparent when your car will be built. Everyone gets a different story!

I got exactly the same response when I pushed my dealer for info last week. She said we won't hear anything until BW 22-23, and more likely nothing will be built I factory until BW 27.

So, I'm gonna try and give her some slack for a few weeks then then turn up the pressure again.

One thing I am amaze at is how variable everybody's build weeks are coming through. Considering we're all very early adopters you'd think/hope we'd be first in line for June deliveries. Sadly this has not been the case. It's been a shambolic launch here in the UK with all the misinformation and MY2014 push backs.
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Post by: matchboy on 07 May 2013, 14:10
"Der neuer Golf GTI - you can order one in March 2013, and its on sale in June 2013! *fanfare*

(but you can't have it till August/September 2013, if you're lucky, cause we're too busy making Demos)

 :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: crouchy88 on 07 May 2013, 14:31
Hi all, I'm new to the forum! I went into my dealership last week to enquire about the new GTI, I got a phone call yesterday to tell me that I couldn't get my hands on one until December. According to the dealer they are having problems with the ADC on the GTI's :/
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 07 May 2013, 14:43
Hi all, I'm new to the forum! I went into my dealership last week to enquire about the new GTI, I got a phone call yesterday to tell me that I couldn't get my hands on one until December. According to the dealer they are having problems with the ADC on the GTI's :/

Welcome aboard Crouchy :wink:

Yet another yarn of bull we're being spun! How many other billy-bill stories can they come up with. On the funny side I've not heard ADC issues as an excuse before. So top marks for originality!

My advice to you is ring around other dealers & try online brokers too. Don't settle for the first response you've had.

December delivery.. Sheesh :sick:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tuscan on 07 May 2013, 15:54
Hi I am new here to!

I ordered my GTD on Business Lease hire and was told May/early June. I emailed the company to get an update and I got a very vague response to!

Hi Ben,

 

I have spoken to our dealership, apparently there is a lot going on behind the scenes on these new shape Golfs.  They are hoping to have a better idea in the next 14 days as regards delivery.  I will let you know as soon as we hear anything back from them.

 

Kind regards


Cant VW release a statement just to let everyone know what the problems are?  This is very frustrating!   :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 07 May 2013, 16:45
Just spoken to VW customer services and been told build week 35. Now considering I was told build week 22 last week I'm now looking at delivery in September sometime. When I pushed them they said if I'd ordered as soon as the books opened for order then I would have a June delivery. Very strange considering no gtd or gti's are being built until at least w/c 27th May. I really think they are just pulling dates from a random generator and why does the VW website still say June to buy. What the hell is the point in ordering on 1st April to mid all of the summer and maybe get a September delivery. Only plus is that it'll have 63 plate and not 13. I am shocked at how shambolic VW are and was not expecting this from them. At this rate I'll have to tax and tyre the tiguan before gtd comes :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 07 May 2013, 17:28
I still think some GTI's will arrive tail end of June, but it will be completely random as to whose orders they are. As I didn't order until 30/4 I'm pretty much resigned to the fact mine will be arriving around August time. I always said if it doesn't arrive 'til August then I'll wait for '63 reg.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: golfgti5 on 07 May 2013, 17:32
Ordered my GTi on 19 March in The Netherlands.
My dealer confirmed that the GTi will be build in week 20, so i get MY2013.
From week 22 MY2014 will be build, electric windows on 4 doors will be standard and the GTi will cost 660 euro more.
So on one hand i'm not happy with MY2013 but on the other hand i am happy that i not have to pay an extra 660 euro.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 May 2013, 17:36
I still think some GTI's will arrive tail end of June, but it will be completely random as to whose orders they are. As I didn't order until 30/4 I'm pretty much resigned to the fact mine will be arriving around August time. I always said if it doesn't arrive 'til August then I'll wait for '63 reg.

Currently I'm assigned a build week that is first week of September but that it 'may' move forward.  My ideal delivery would be 1st September with a 63 plate.  Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 07 May 2013, 17:46
Hi everyone, first post here.

Been watching the forum for a few weeks now, but thought i'd get involved with the fun and post my up to date experience.

I ordered my GTD 3 door manual on Saturday 27th April, trading in a Mini Cooper SD. I'd class it as my first 'proper' car, as i've just turned 24 and have usually been insured out of everything i've wanted in recent years.

The sales exec at Lookers Blackburn gave me an ETA of 1st August for delivery. At which point I would probably wait until 1st September for the 63 reg.

Chased them for a build date today, they basically said the order had been confirmed but that they didn't have a confirmed build week at this stage. They would advise me when they knew this. Tracking my order online gives me this same information.

Anyway, i'm really feeling the excitement like everybody else. I wasn't this excited when I first ever passed my driving test. Going from a Mini to a Mk7 really seems to be like going from Susan Boyle up to Kelly Brook, and i've let myself go on this one! Bring on the delivery dates!

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 07 May 2013, 18:11
If the car came with Kelly Brook I'd gladly wait till 2014 for delivery!  :laugh:

Welcome btw!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 07 May 2013, 18:17
The annoying this is if VW had said from the outset it was likely to be for September delivery people would have known that. Why say on sale June if they can't deliver, its misrepresentation and false advertising!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 07 May 2013, 18:28
OK, I'm starting to get concerned now. I seem to be the only person who's order number isn't even recognised on the "track your order" website  :cry: placed my order on the 14th April.

Spoke to the dealer and he told me it wouldn't appear until VW have assigned a build week, but I told him that was bull, as the order should have at least been acknowledged, even if a build week hasn't been assigned, as lots of people on here seem to be that far at least.

Think it's a trip in there at the weekend to see whats bloody going on  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TurboTrev on 07 May 2013, 18:43
I've been into my dealer today and they showed me my order on system, but no build date was showing. :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 07 May 2013, 18:48
You should be able to see order in process on the tracker with your order number. Ring VW customer services and give them your order number.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 May 2013, 18:58
Just checked mine and for the first time it appears on the online tracker instead of adding not recognised like it was before.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 07 May 2013, 19:13
I ordered my GTD  02/05.  Dealer has guesstimated 16+ weeks.

I have been holding out for this since last October.  The wait is getting harder and harder.

I'm hoping it won't be delayed any longer than that  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 07 May 2013, 19:23
OK, I'm starting to get concerned now. I seem to be the only person who's order number isn't even recognised on the "track your order" website  :cry: placed my order on the 14th April.

Spoke to the dealer and he told me it wouldn't appear until VW have assigned a build week, but I told him that was bull, as the order should have at least been acknowledged, even if a build week hasn't been assigned, as lots of people on here seem to be that far at least.

Think it's a trip in there at the weekend to see whats bloody going on  :angry:

Norbreck, you're not the only one matey. I have an order number, however it still it isn't recognised by the VW Track Your Order website even though my order was placed on 10 April. Should I be concerned?

I was fed exactly the same as you, that it won't appear until I've been assigned a build week. Obviously this doesn't add up as many on here can see their order on the website yet still haven't been assigned a build week.

I've been onto my dealer about this but I've given up pestering them for now, mainly for my own sanity. However she did assure me most sincerely that my order is placed and is awaiting a build week. What else can I do?

Don't feel you're the only one as there's me too :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 07 May 2013, 19:25
OK, I'm starting to get concerned now. I seem to be the only person who's order number isn't even recognised on the "track your order" website  :cry: placed my order on the 14th April.

Spoke to the dealer and he told me it wouldn't appear until VW have assigned a build week, but I told him that was bull, as the order should have at least been acknowledged, even if a build week hasn't been assigned, as lots of people on here seem to be that far at least.

Think it's a trip in there at the weekend to see whats bloody going on  :angry:

Norbreck, you're not the only one matey. I have an order number, however it still it isn't recognised by the VW Track Your Order website even though my order was placed on 10 April. Should I be concerned?

I was fed exactly the same as you, that it won't appear until I've been assigned a build week. Obviously this doesn't add up as many on here can see their order on the website yet still haven't been assigned a build week.

I've been onto my dealer about this but I've given up pestering them for now, mainly for my own sanity. However she did assure me most sincerely that my order is placed and is awaiting a build week. What else can I do?

Don't feel you're the only one as there's me too :whistle:

I'd be a little worried as my order number worked on the tracker within 24hrs of ordering.
 the car.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 07 May 2013, 19:59
I wouldn't be concerned.

They won't have simply not ordered the car I don't believe. You are the customer who has ordered a car, they will want to deliver it to you. If the sales exec says they've done it, then I'd believe them over what appears to be an unreliable tracking service!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jerseyal on 07 May 2013, 20:00
Ordered my gti on the 3rd of April here in Jersey on the Channel Isles got an order number but no build date as yet .My local salesman says it will be in the next week or so .Lets hope so !
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lendo on 08 May 2013, 00:02
Also in Jersey! ordered mine 9th April was given build date today by Jacksons of week 27 (July 1st)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jsybrian on 08 May 2013, 08:39
Ditto in Jersey ordered 1st April quoted build week 24 have not chased Jacksons will wait till end of month,
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lendo on 08 May 2013, 08:51
I think it will drive me insane if I see another one driving round here while I'm still waiting!  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 08 May 2013, 10:17
Finally managed to get my order number and put it into the tracker, it is only at processing stage still, but I did notice something:

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order/doingPaperwork?orderNumber=23210768 (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order/doingPaperwork?orderNumber=23210768)

My upholstery is showing as "Titan Black" - what is that all about? I thought it was Jacara? Didn't realise Titan Black was even an option?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 08 May 2013, 10:18
Finally managed to get my order number and put it into the tracker, it is only at processing stage still, but I did notice something:

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order/doingPaperwork?orderNumber=23210768 (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order/doingPaperwork?orderNumber=23210768)

My upholstery is showing as "Titan Black" - what is that all about? I thought it was Jacara? Didn't realise Titan Black was even an option?

Yet another bug, mine says that too.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 08 May 2013, 10:19
Mine says titan black too, i wouldn't worry i think titan is the colour of the dash panels etc.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 08 May 2013, 10:25
I've just put my order url into changedetection.com so I don't have to keep going back looking for updates.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 08 May 2013, 10:27
I've just put my order url into changedetection.com so I don't have to keep going back looking for updates.

Nah, where's the fun in that  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 May 2013, 10:27
I wouldn't be concerned.

They won't have simply not ordered the car I don't believe. You are the customer who has ordered a car, they will want to deliver it to you. If the sales exec says they've done it, then I'd believe them over what appears to be an unreliable tracking service!

My dealer held my order back for over a week.  It was only because I hadn't received my order number that I chased (thanks to the feedback on this forum).  Amazingly  :rolleyes:, an hour later I had an order number.  I also got the order date confirmed with VW Customer Services and it was NOT on the day they said they'd ordered it - in fact, its only because I chased them that the order was put through.  So, for whatever reason, my order was held back.  As soon as it was put through I had an order number, and that worked on the tracker the next day.

Not wishing to scare monger but if I would chase them.  VW Customer Services said that you should have an order number within a few hours of the dealer putting that on the system - if you don't then they haven't placed the order.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 08 May 2013, 10:41
I wouldn't be concerned.

They won't have simply not ordered the car I don't believe. You are the customer who has ordered a car, they will want to deliver it to you. If the sales exec says they've done it, then I'd believe them over what appears to be an unreliable tracking service!

My dealer held my order back for over a week.  It was only because I hadn't received my order number that I chased (thanks to the feedback on this forum).  Amazingly  :rolleyes:, an hour later I had an order number.  I also got the order date confirmed with VW Customer Services and it was NOT on the day they said they'd ordered it - in fact, its only because I chased them that the order was put through.  So, for whatever reason, my order was held back.  As soon as it was put through I had an order number, and that worked on the tracker the next day.

Not wishing to scare monger but if I would chase them.  VW Customer Services said that you should have an order number within a few hours of the dealer putting that on the system - if you don't then they haven't placed the order.

Probably had met that months target and wanted your order on the following months figures. If so, that's despicable IMO
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 May 2013, 10:52
Yep, totally.  I was f7cking livid when I found out to be honest.  But....only thing that has calmed me down is the fact that my estimated delivery date is a month earlier than my last GTI so that's stopped me flying off the handle as I expected Sep :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mortimerchris on 08 May 2013, 10:58
After coming up as order processing on the site last Sat 10 days after ordering, I decided to call VW yesterday.
I go a call back this morning to say I have been given a provisional build date of 2nd September (Week 36)
Gutted!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 08 May 2013, 11:15
After coming up as order processing on the site last Sat 10 days after ordering, I decided to call VW yesterday.
I go a call back this morning to say I have been given a provisional build date of 2nd September (Week 36)
Gutted!

I got wk35 provisional, but they say this will "hopefully" come forward.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 08 May 2013, 11:20
Update:

Just got off the phone to VW Customer service to ask why my order number still isn't recognised by the 'Track My Order' website. They offered no explanation other than to say other people have complained about the same thing. No Sh*t Sherlock!

Still not any the wiser as to why my order number still brings up this message, even after a calendar month!

"Sorry, we can't find this order number. Please check your order tracking card and try again or contact your retailer."

They did check the validity of the order number and whether it was proceeding - luckily it was yes to both.

One extra tidbit, they said that GTD models ordered when I did should start arriving end of July early August. This sounds about right from all the other info on this site and from hawk eyed members.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 08 May 2013, 11:23
Ah thanks Five-O. I'm going to do the same thing at lunchtime (what number did you ring please). Like you, I just want assurance that the bloody car is actually on order and proceeded, despite it appearing or not on the VW website.

Good news for you that at least they have confirmed yours is on order, and the delivery dates given seem more reasonable.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 May 2013, 11:29
Anybody who updated their spec after their original order may want to check their order number.  Mine changed, which explains why it is not showing on the VW website.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 08 May 2013, 12:00
Changed my spec yesterday and salesman told me original order number still stands. You shouldnt be getting a new order number as you havent ordered a new car. I still cant believe the website says on sale in June when no one in the uk will drive a gti or gtd before July... probably. I was told i'd have the car in June by customer services so if it arrives in August or September I wont be happy. The bloody summer (if we get one) will be gone by then  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 08 May 2013, 12:39
Well, just been onto VW customer services as to why my order number isn't being recognised on the website (thought the dealers may have been bull sh1tting me), however they confirmed its in the system, was confirmed back immediately on the 18th April and is just waiting for a build week.

One thing she did say is that as I've added so many options to my car, mine will be on a slightly longer lead time than vanilla spec cars. Even so, she's quoting a "preliminary" build week of mid July, however stressed that its not confirmed and that it's subject to possible change.

I'm just relieved its in the system at Wolfsburg and is actually being processed. She couldn't explain why my order isn't being recognised in the website though ?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 May 2013, 13:16
Mine is as vanilla as it can be, could I be one of the lucky ones (order accepted by VW March 30th).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 May 2013, 15:03
I still cant believe the website says on sale in June when no one in the uk will drive a gti or gtd before July... probably. I was told i'd have the car in June by customer services so if it arrives in August or September I wont be happy. The bloody summer (if we get one) will be gone by then  :grin:

My thoughts exactly!! I was hoping to get some 'summer' driving in, but with the way things are going it'll probably arrive the same time as the Snow starts to set in.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 May 2013, 17:17
Woohooo!!! Just got a call from my dealer this afternoon.  Finally, got an order number & a build date.

It's looking like Week 27 (1st week of July) with expected delivery for the end of July (this is for a White 5 door GTi with PP, ACC/DCC & 19" Santiago's - order placed on 29.03.13).

Progress at last!!! :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 08 May 2013, 17:29
Woohooo!!! Just got a call from my dealer this afternoon.  Finally, got an order number & a build date.
 :smiley:
It's looking like Week 27 (1st week of July) with expected delivery for the end of July (this is for a White 5 door GTi with PP, ACC/DCC & 19" Santiago's - order placed on 29.03.13).

Progress at last!!! :smiley:

That's brilliant news :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 May 2013, 17:45
Thanks Bud. This was straight from the 'Procurement Managers' mouth so I'm optimistic!!

Apparently when my dealer checked my order two weeks ago it was showing  provisional Week 43... which was why he didn't want to give me an order number. Apparently when orders are first placed on the system they will all show 43??  (Don't know if that's true or not)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 May 2013, 18:16
Great news! Seems some of us are getting somewhere, hopefully the rest will follow! All the cars will be on the same boat too!!  :cool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 May 2013, 18:54
But not before time! Here's hoping the flood gates open... Dealer also confirmed that their demo should be arriving sometime in June (as predicted)...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tom90 on 08 May 2013, 19:00
But not before time! Here's hoping the flood gates open... Dealer also confirmed that their demo should be arriving sometime in June (as predicted)...

the dealership in Leicester said to me the demo will arrive around mid june
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 May 2013, 19:01
Sorry I forgot to mention... He indicated that their "demo" won't have the Performance Pack but will be basically plain 'Vanilla' spec.. That's all I know unfortunately. I will get first drive once it arrives apparently  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 May 2013, 19:03
Sorry I forgot to mention... He indicated that their "demo" won't have the Performance Pack but will be basically plain 'Vanilla' spec.. That's all I know unfortunately. I will get first drive once it arrives apparently  :smiley:

I've been promised first drive too, will be a great taster for the main event!   :cool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 08 May 2013, 19:36
Woohooo!!! Just got a call from my dealer this afternoon.  Finally, got an order number & a build date.

It's looking like Week 27 (1st week of July) with expected delivery for the end of July (this is for a White 5 door GTi with PP, ACC/DCC & 19" Santiago's - order placed on 29.03.13).

Progress at last!!! :smiley:

"It's looking like" lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 May 2013, 20:02
Quote from: ROO1 link=topic=252146.msg2324854 :#msg2324854 date=1368038195
Woohooo!!! Just got a call from my dealer this afternoon.  Finally, got an order number & a build date.

It's looking like Week 27 (1st week of July) with expected delivery for the end of July (this is for a White 5 door GTi with PP, ACC/DCC & 19" Santiago's - order placed on 29.03.13).

Progress at last!!! :smiley:

"It's looking like" lol

Hahaha... Suppose I'll believe it when I see it!!  :grin: He could be referring to July '2014' for all I know  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 08 May 2013, 20:10
Every new car I've owned has been late by at least 2 weeks. The worst 12 weeks late (Audi A1)......same parent company lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 09 May 2013, 09:11
Anyone else been given a build week then?  Think there's a good 5-10 so far??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 09 May 2013, 09:41
Nowt yet, but I was the first to order a GTD (no GTIs ordered to that point either - do they share allocation per dealer or are they independent of each other?) and mine is a vanilla model in a common colour, so hopefully there should be no good reason to delay it.

My official VW tracking is still showing my originally ordered colour of Deep Black Pearl instead of Tornado Red changed 2 days ago and I know the dealer inputted the change immediately, so the tracker is complete bollocks. My dealer has been told by VW UK that he won't get any further information regarding build week updates until Week 22 is upon us.

Seems pretty screwed up that VW are diverting building capacity away from ordered cars to fulfill demo orders. Why do that when the car is currently selling itself to the point whereby they've probably got most of 2013's orders than can be allocated this year already sewn up. A load of these in customers hand and getting driven all around the country is as much publicity as you could ask for with this model.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: SF-GTD on 09 May 2013, 09:47
Just heard from my dealer last night.  My GTD has provisional build week 32, which must be some point in August.  This seems okay to me as I only ordered last week.

I've got my tracker number too, which works okay on the VW website (but obviously only says "processing").
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 09 May 2013, 09:51
I've said this before, having a car in a dealership is no match for seeing a car driven around.  Only people that see the car in the dealership are those specifically bothered to go there, IF they know its out - whereas when you see one on the road you are like 'ooh look the new GTI,' which gets a potential customer thinking (far bigger audience) and then they start researching the car, reading reviews etc.

The fact that the earliest anyone will see one on the road other than a test drive is end of July is such an oversight by VW, given their 'on sale June' tagline.  Then again, it could be said that as they've clearly sold their allocations up to it seems at least October then their marketing technique is working, so what do I know!  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 09 May 2013, 10:05
I think everyones will be provisional week 32 until the MY14 changes take place on wk 22. We should just wait until then as i think different info is coming from different dealers and vw themselves.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 09 May 2013, 13:46
Just had a call, now week 28... So should get first or second week in August. As I'm putting a private plate on it I don't care about waiting for new reg!!  :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 09 May 2013, 14:33
Just had a call, now week 28...

Nick, what week were you originally told?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 09 May 2013, 14:55
Just had a call, now week 28... So should get first or second week in August. As I'm putting a private plate on it I don't care about waiting for new reg!!  :evil:

That sounds about right. Pretty much in-line with what I was told yesterday. I think we both placed our orders on the 29th March so it's all very promising.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TurboTrev on 09 May 2013, 15:05
Still no sign of mine on the track your order site.  To those that can see their orders on the site, does your order number begin with 2320 followed by 4 more numbers?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 09 May 2013, 15:09
Still no sign of mine on the track your order site.  To those that can see their orders on the site, does your order number begin with 2320 followed by 4 more numbers?

Close... Mine starts with 2318 followed by 4 more numbers
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 09 May 2013, 15:33
Mines 2321xxxx, and it still isn't on "track your order" yet. Despite that VW customer services and the dealer assure me 100% that the order has been accepted by VW Germany and is currently being processed and waiting for a build week.

As I've spec'ed so many options, I think at this rate my build week will be just before the MK8 Golf is announced  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 09 May 2013, 16:37
I'm 2322xxxx. They must be sequential and I ordered near the end of April.

I've currently got a build week at start of September.  I think it may come forward a bit and end up around 30 or 31...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: blueheaduk on 09 May 2013, 17:14
I'm 2317 and still nothing  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 09 May 2013, 17:24
I'm 2322xxxx. They must be sequential and I ordered near the end of April.

I've currently got a build week at start of September.  I think it may come forward a bit and end up around 30 or 31...

Mine is 2322 and I ordered beginning of April!  Clearly its just random!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 09 May 2013, 17:27
I'm 2322xxxx. They must be sequential and I ordered near the end of April.

I've currently got a build week at start of September.  I think it may come forward a bit and end up around 30 or 31...

Mine is 2322 and I ordered beginning of April!  Clearly its just random!!  :laugh:

Oh.  :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 09 May 2013, 17:32
You are Cambridgeshire though aren't you Bear?  I am Hertfordshire, and not far from Cambridgeshire - therefore the first 4 digits I'm guessing are regional (a bit like license plates and the first 2 letters) - so I wouldn't worry about the first 4 digits as they aren't in order.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 09 May 2013, 17:54
I am a 2321 like Norbreck and he is in Cheshire, miles away from me in Surrey - so I don't think the first 4 digits are represent a region code.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 09 May 2013, 18:01
I am a 2321 like Norbreck and he is in Cheshire, miles away from me in Surrey - so I don't think the first 4 digits are represent a region code.

Dammit, thought I was onto something  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 09 May 2013, 18:13
I am a 2321 like Norbreck and he is in Cheshire, miles away from me in Surrey - so I don't think the first 4 digits are represent a region code.

Dammit, thought I was onto something  :lipsrsealed:

Yah that would have been good,  except I ordered from a dealer in Warwickshire.
Ah well.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Whiteshirt on 09 May 2013, 18:23
I'm 2317 and still nothing  :cry:

Likewise 2317 and nothing
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 09 May 2013, 18:35
I'm 2317 and still nothing  :cry:

Likewise 2317 and nothing

Mines 2317 too but mines showing as processing.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 09 May 2013, 18:39
I reckons those bastards are reading this forum and doing this just to mess with us.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 09 May 2013, 19:21
I'm 2324 but nothing shows at the order tracking site.  Has only been a week since I ordered...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 09 May 2013, 19:37
Everyone needs to chill :cool: I don't think anyone will get a proper confirmed build date until the very earliest w/c27th may.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 09 May 2013, 19:47
Agree with mcmaddy, whilst im obviously wanting it asap (and anyone who know's me will tell you i'm not know for my patience), it will be here when its here. The good news is as the dealer agreed to fix the part ex price until the car is delivered, im paying more off the Scirocco each month so my colateral in the car is actualy going up, so less money for me to have to pull from my savings account to pay the deposit.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 09 May 2013, 19:56
Same here norbreck. fixed trade in and I'm also very very impatient. to be honest if I'd known on 2nd April I wouldn't be in the car until julember sometime I may have had 2nd thoughts. I naively thought that as the VW website said on sale June I would have the car for June   :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 09 May 2013, 20:03
You mean you actually believed something that was on VW's website......how naive of you   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 09 May 2013, 20:49
Mid 2317's for me. i'm resigned to the fact I won't get mine before July, it it comes in Aug i'm waiting until Sept for it. Car tax due on the Scirocco 1st June. :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 09 May 2013, 20:59
I'm 2317 and still nothing  :cry:

Same here 2317
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 09 May 2013, 21:02
I originally said that I wanted my car for Sept 1st 63 reg. The exec then said don't be daft it will arrive end may start June and you can enjoy it over the summer, take it then. So we agreed.

Lesson in how to mismanage a customers expectations lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 09 May 2013, 21:05
Car tax due on the Scirocco 1st June. :angry:

Me too, reminder from dvla arrived today  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 09 May 2013, 21:10
Car tax due on the Scirocco 1st June. :angry:

Me too, reminder from dvla arrived today  :angry:

You know you can claim this back (the difference) when you take delivery of your new car? Your dealer should arrange it all for you.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 09 May 2013, 21:15
Car tax due on the Scirocco 1st June. :angry:

Me too, reminder from dvla arrived today  :angry:

You know you can claim this back (the difference) when you take delivery of your new car? Your dealer should arrange it all for you.

Yeah, just a pain to tax a car that you want gone  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 09 May 2013, 21:21
I originally said that I wanted my car for Sept 1st 63 reg. The exec then said don't be daft it will arrive end may start June and you can enjoy it over the summer, take it then. So we agreed.

Lesson in how to mismanage a customers expectations lol

Ye cos the 'Exec's' are highly competent, highly trust worthy, conscientious and knowledgeable division of the VW group?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 09 May 2013, 21:34
I originally said that I wanted my car for Sept 1st 63 reg. The exec then said don't be daft it will arrive end may start June and you can enjoy it over the summer, take it then. So we agreed.

Lesson in how to mismanage a customers expectations lol

Ye cos the 'Exec's' are highly competent, highly trust worthy, conscientious and knowledgeable division of the VW group?

Yes that's them lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 09 May 2013, 21:39
Tax due on my gt golf in July, not heard of a build date at all yet....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 09 May 2013, 21:52
Everyone needs to chill :cool: I don't think anyone will get a proper confirmed build date until the very earliest w/c27th may.

Well yes, but you know each day feels like a week and we can't resist posting as if our collective anticipation will somehow lend extra speed to the Wolfsburg robots... :whistle:

Me too, reminder from dvla arrived today  :angry:

Yeah, those DVLA assholes. :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 09 May 2013, 22:09
I ordered mine 5 weeks ago but it may aswell have been 5 months or 5 years  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 09 May 2013, 23:51
I reckon the first part of the code 2317, 2318,2319 etc responds to a week number of the year.

I've been playing with the order status site and its pretty easy to see the status of any order by modifying the first part of the code followed by sequentially changing the last 4 digits.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 08:02
Car tax due on the Scirocco 1st June. :angry:

Me too, reminder from dvla arrived today  :angry:

You know you can claim this back (the difference) when you take delivery of your new car? Your dealer should arrange it all for you.

Yep, you can claim for whole unused months - it's still a pain to shell out £125 and then chasing up the DVLA for possibly 11/12 of it back (more likely 9/12).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 10 May 2013, 08:13
I reckon the first part of the code 2317, 2318,2319 etc responds to a week number of the year.

I've been playing with the order status site and its pretty easy to see the status of any order by modifying the first part of the code followed by sequentially changing the last 4 digits.

Pauliem

If that is the case then how do you square my order number starting with 2321? If you take the 21 as week 21 then that's in the future (w/c 20 May). I ordered my car 10 April so my order number should read 2315.

Hummm the plot thickens.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Squit on 10 May 2013, 08:20
First four digits probably denote the expected year of delivery.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 10 May 2013, 08:25
Well, I proved my theory wrong by looking at every order from 0700 upwards and managing to find the correct prefix.  Couldn't find the significance of the 1st part but most of the orders in this range are still processing, although some have been built and delivered.  Mainly Up! and Golf orders have been satisfied.

Only saw a couple of GTIs in the list, quite a few more GTDs.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 08:37
Pauliem: You're a VW order stalker!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 08:55
Just done some order stalking after checking my order out. An order for a Passat highline going to my dealership group , 40 digits after my order is in "confirmed build week" status, and according to the frequently asked questions within this status, the "build week confirmed" status is generally applied 4 weeks before the actual build takes place (to allow VW to ensure they have all required parts for your "bespoke" order). By that info, if the earliest order placers amongst us get a build week confirmation in week 23, it'll be week 27 before build commences, probably week 30 by the time it is in the UK/at the dealership for pick-up (W/C 22 July). Perhaps due to the wait already (held status) GTD/GTI orders won't take 4 weeks to get built after status change.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 10 May 2013, 09:03
Nothing wrong with a bit of stalking  :evil:

I was actually reading the source of the javascript to see if I could see where it was collecting the information from.  But it is a server side process and there are no clues in the source.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 May 2013, 09:06
Nothing wrong with a bit of stalking  :evil:

I was actually reading the source of the javascript to see if I could see where it was collecting the information from.  But it is a server side process and there are no clues in the source.

I have no idea what any of that means  :shocked:  :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 10 May 2013, 14:42
Just spoken to vw customer services .....
They said that delivery will be mid Sept.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 15:02
I'm sorry but that's totally unacceptable! I ordered mine the same day as yours and I'm not waiting until mid September for mine. Talk about false advertising?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 10 May 2013, 15:03
When did you order yours roo1?

Paid my deposit the day order books opened on 26/3
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 15:06
When did you order yours roo1?

Paid my deposit the day order books opened on 26/3

I'll be cancelling mine then. I'm not prepared to wait that long.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 10 May 2013, 15:07
I'm past caring about delivery now to be honest - if it's after September, great, it's a "63" plate car, which actually makes no difference to me anyway given it will be going on a private plate.  It also means I'll be able to save up a healthy chunk prior to starting payments on it.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: p3asa on 10 May 2013, 15:10
6 months from order to delivery. Its a fair wait but then if everyone is waiting the same then its not really a hardship!!

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 May 2013, 15:11
When did you order yours roo1?

Paid my deposit the day order books opened on 26/3

I'll be cancelling mine then. I'm not prepared to wait that long.

Instead of cancelling, why not use this as a bargaining chip to get some money off/extras added for nothing.  If it doesn't work then if you can still sack if off should you still feel that way.  But if it was me I'd be getting some options added on for nothing!

P1ss poor from VW though, you GTD boys were told June delivery.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 10 May 2013, 15:19
If you've already haggled a discount, good luck with trying to get extra freebies!  The build and delivery is what it is - it's a new car, clearly there have been issues, and we are all in the same boat.  If you TRULY want the car, you'll be kicking yourself when people start taking delivery.  Not sure what canceling gains, other than a chunk of money in the bank and keeping buyers remorse at bay!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 10 May 2013, 15:20
I've opened a complaint log with vw  :smiley: let's see where this goes.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 10 May 2013, 15:31
When did you order yours roo1?

Paid my deposit the day order books opened on 26/3

I'll be cancelling mine then. I'm not prepared to wait that long.

I agree with Gryzor. It's taken so long already, you get past caring about delivery.  I've basically shoved it in the back of mind & focused on something else! September will roll round quicker than you think... I mean can you believe it's May already!! It only felt like we got over Christmas last week.  :grin:

Mind you it doesn't help when your friends & family keep asking... "Have you got your New Car yet?" & "Why is taking so long?" You just want to slap them round the Chops!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tuscan on 10 May 2013, 15:56
I had an email yesterday saying the latest I will recieve the car is August but they are hoping for that date to come forward.  So many conflicting stories!  Arghhh!   :sad: :angry: :laugh: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 10 May 2013, 16:02
When I drive it off the dealers forecourt, that's the day I get my new GTI! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 10 May 2013, 16:27
I've basically shoved it in the back of mind & focused on something else! September will roll round quicker than you think...

I'm am trying to the same thing but I'm finding it very, very, very, did I say very, difficult to ignore the fact that I still have know idea when I'll be getting my new car.

Still not heard a dicky bird from my dealer. Last time I spoke to them they basically said nothing will happen until BW 22-23. Gonna be tough for me to resist calling them until then!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 10 May 2013, 16:47
I've opened a complaint log with vw  :smiley: let's see where this goes.

ROO1, Create a new thread when you start hearing any news about your complaint. Be good to hear what pearls of wisdom VW Customer Service come out with. This whole build week business is a shambles.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 May 2013, 17:03
I don't know how you chaps can put it to the back of your minds - I literally can't wait - I even dreamt about getting it last night  :laugh:

(and yes, it was awesome!)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 10 May 2013, 17:05
I don't know how you chaps can put it to the back of your minds - I literally can't wait - I even dreamt about getting it last night  :laugh:

(and yes, it was awesome!)
Haha, sounds like a good dream!  I can't wait either and am dead excited, but, nothing I can do will speed up delivery!  So, just gotta' get on with it and look forward to the moment you drive it away and know you are in a rather exclusive car :)

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 10 May 2013, 17:07
- I even dreamt about getting it last night  :laugh:

And what about the car?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 May 2013, 17:07
- I even dreamt about getting it last night  :laugh:

And what about the car?

 :grin: :grin: that made me LOL!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 10 May 2013, 17:37
I don't know how you chaps can put it to the back of your minds - I literally can't wait - I even dreamt about getting it last night  :laugh:

(and yes, it was awesome!)

How does it handle in the wet?? :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 10 May 2013, 17:49
I don't know how you chaps can put it to the back of your minds - I literally can't wait - I even dreamt about getting it last night  :laugh:

(and yes, it was awesome!)

How does it handle in the wet?? :lipsrsealed:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/15909afcfb242c98bc0d75a8cd862b76/tumblr_mit3jzpZqB1qld3ljo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 10 May 2013, 18:15
Just had an email from my dealer, my build is showing Week 34 (19th Aug) but it hasn't been confirmed yet so could still change back or forward. :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 18:36
Instead of cancelling, why not use this as a bargaining chip to get some money off/extras added for nothing.  If it doesn't work then if you can still sack if off should you still feel that way.  But if it was me I'd be getting some options added on for nothing!

P1ss poor from VW though, you GTD boys were told June delivery.

Good luck with trying for freebies. Who would fund them, VW or the dealer? Not the dealers fault - look at the info out there, website says they'll be on sale in the UK in June, dealers not told any different. If anything the dealers will be most pissed off by this - for those with p/x, for every month VW are later than anticipated your 2/3 year old Roc/Golf is depreciating, at maybe £250 a month. My Roc value was agreed at £15500, it would probably be on the forecourt right now for £18k. By the time Aug comes around, correct forecourt price will probably be £17k. The dealership expects to make more than 10% on a nearly new used VW.

VW UK are particularly tight with goodwill and useless at resolving customer issues. After my MK5 Golf was clattered by a bus and Benfield took 8 weeks to do a 2 week repair, they left it
1. with the brakes in a dangerous condition.
2. with a paint job so thin and compromised galvanisation so the repair rusted every 3 months
3. with missing items from my boot that were never seen again
4. with the car interior covered in black handprints on the rooflining and metal swarf (from cutting in the new rear quarter) all over the interior.

Some of these issues weren't noticed completely until the following day aas it was pitch black and lashing it down when I picked my car up (I did note the missing items at time of pick-up).

VW UK were involved and I wrote some pretty strong letters of complaint. My goodwill gesture was that VW UK put pressure on to Benfield to offer me a free valet (paid for by Benfield). Apart from remedial paint/rust repairs on the rear quarter panel every 3 months until I got shot of it, I wouldn't let them near the interior again. VW UK said I was stubborn and tried to close my case as "customer satisfied with the outcome". I wrote to VW Germany after that and they were horrified. They gave me 1000 euros compensation for my issues with Benfield and VW UK. You will get short shrift from VW UK for a later than anticipated order.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 18:39
Right now i'm glad that i'm happy with my car and it doesn't have any impending costs such as replacement tyres (OK I need a tax disc, but I will get most of that back).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 10 May 2013, 18:49
Instead of cancelling, why not use this as a bargaining chip to get some money off/extras added for nothing.  If it doesn't work then if you can still sack if off should you still feel that way.  But if it was me I'd be getting some options added on for nothing!

P1ss poor from VW though, you GTD boys were told June delivery.

Good luck with trying for freebies. Who would fund them, VW or the dealer? Not the dealers fault - look at the info out there, website says they'll be on sale in the UK in June, dealers not told any different. If anything the dealers will be most pissed off by this - for those with p/x, for every month VW are later than anticipated your 2/3 year old Roc/Golf is depreciating, at maybe £250 a month. My Roc value was agreed at £15500, it would probably be on the forecourt right now for £18k. By the time Aug comes around, correct forecourt price will probably be £17k. The dealership expects to make more than 10% on a nearly new used VW.

VW UK are particularly tight with goodwill and useless at resolving customer issues. After my MK5 Golf was clattered by a bus and Benfield took 8 weeks to do a 2 week repair, they left it
1. with the brakes in a dangerous condition.
2. with a paint job so thin and compromised galvanisation so the repair rusted every 3 months
3. with missing items from my boot that were never seen again
4. with the car interior covered in black handprints on the rooflining and metal swarf (from cutting in the new rear quarter) all over the interior.

Some of these issues weren't noticed completely until the following day aas it was pitch black and lashing it down when I picked my car up (I did note the missing items at time of pick-up).

VW UK were involved and I wrote some pretty strong letters of complaint. My goodwill gesture was that VW UK put pressure on to Benfield to offer me a free valet (paid for by Benfield). Apart from remedial paint/rust repairs on the rear quarter panel every 3 months until I got shot of it, I wouldn't let them near the interior again. VW UK said I was stubborn and tried to close my case as "customer satisfied with the outcome". I wrote to VW Germany after that and they were horrified. They gave me 1000 euros compensation for my issues with Benfield and VW UK. You will get short shrift from VW UK for a later than anticipated order.

When my Audi A1 was 12 weeks late I got it for 17200 instead of 20500. Depends on your negotiation skills I guess
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 20:04
Top and bottom of it is we were supposed to get delivery in June. Clearly that's not going to happen so someone needs to be taken outside from either vw Germany or VW UK or even better both and dragged round the car park behind a Toureg. They've known all along that no gti or gtd would be delivered in June so its false advertising. If they'd said order books open march for delivery in September then fine, at least we knew up front.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: evo1986 on 10 May 2013, 20:13
To be honest no one should of expected customer deliveries in June. It was clear from the start that only pre production demo cars were to be built before week 22 to be on site for the on sale date of June. That means on sale for people to see and drive not for customers to take delivery of.

Your individual dealers are the ones who have done the usual thing of over promising and under delivering. VW uk have never promised customer deliveries for June so don't expect anything from them.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 10 May 2013, 20:13
Chill everyone, just chill.

It'll be here when it's here.
Be safe in the knowledge you'll be one of the first in the UK to own a mk 7 GTI. :drool: :drool:

Mines still showing week 25 .
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 21:01
To be honest no one should of expected customer deliveries in June. It was clear from the start that only pre production demo cars were to be built before week 22 to be on site for the on sale date of June. That means on sale for people to see and drive not for customers to take delivery of.

Your individual dealers are the ones who have done the usual thing of over promising and under delivering. VW uk have never promised customer deliveries for June so don't expect anything from them.


The fact VW UK have on sale June means nothing then? It's still misleading at best. Nothing to do with dealerships its VW UK.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 10 May 2013, 21:03
To be honest no one should of expected customer deliveries in June. It was clear from the start that only pre production demo cars were to be built before week 22 to be on site for the on sale date of June. That means on sale for people to see and drive not for customers to take delivery of.

Your individual dealers are the ones who have done the usual thing of over promising and under delivering. VW uk have never promised customer deliveries for June so don't expect anything from them.


The fact VW UK have on sale June means nothing then? It's still misleading at best. Nothing to do with dealerships its VW UK.

Agreed.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 10 May 2013, 21:19
I do remember when I was a little boy.

I soooo wanted Christmas to be tomorrow.

 :wink:

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 10 May 2013, 21:44
How long do the dealers need to hang on to the demo's?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 10 May 2013, 21:47
30-40 seconds.

To the highest bidder. :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 22:08
3 months is usually the demo time scales. I know that no amount of complaining will make it come any quicker its just highly annoying. Never know once wk22 arrives and they allocate builds we might be pleasantly surprised. Hang on who the hell am I trying to kid  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 10 May 2013, 22:46
Do any of you know if the dealers are putting on any special "launch" days for prospective buyers or will it be a very low key affair?? Can't remember how they launched the Mk6?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 10 May 2013, 22:56
I got my build date today. I called my dealer for something else actually.

It is Week 36 (September 2, 2013   to September 8, 2013)

She said that my build week was initially in week 40 something week (I can't remember now), so its been pushed forward. She said it takes about 4 - 6 weeks from then.

I'm looking at early October 2013 I reckon.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: SF-GTD on 10 May 2013, 23:17
It's quite funny reading through this topic now.  We're 38 pages in and despite the fact nobody has a confirmed build date, a lot of us are already to march on VW UK headquarters   :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 23:19
Really can't see the point of launch days for the GTI and GTD. They've already sold allocation well towards the end of the year, those that order at launch because they heard about it through the launch will have to wait even longer. These cars clearly sell themselves early on.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 23:20
I got my build date today. I called my dealer for something else actually.

It is Week 36 (September 2, 2013   to September 8, 2013)

She said that my build week was initially in week 40 something week (I can't remember now), so its been pushed forward. She said it takes about 4 - 6 weeks from then.

I'm looking at early October 2013 I reckon.

Have you ordered a gti?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 23:22
Really can't see the point of launch days for the GTI and GTD. They've already sold allocation well towards the end of the year, those that order at launch because they heard about it through the launch will have to wait even longer. These cars clearly sell themselves early on.


I bet they still will though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 23:23
With so much misinformation flying around (or lack of real information) between VW UK and the dealerships and a useless build tracker (lets hope it starts working from BW22) I would take every quoted build date with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 23:26
For those who have "got" a build date it would be useful to know when you ordered it, what equipment you have ordered and whether it is a GTD or GTI. Could be that GTIs are coming later than GTDs (or vice-versa), or maybe certain colours (Oryx White?) or equipment (Sun Roof?) hold things up. There may be a pattern to it, or it may be completely random.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 10 May 2013, 23:31
I got my build date today. I called my dealer for something else actually.

It is Week 36 (September 2, 2013   to September 8, 2013)

She said that my build week was initially in week 40 something week (I can't remember now), so its been pushed forward. She said it takes about 4 - 6 weeks from then.

I'm looking at early October 2013 I reckon.

Have you ordered a gti?

Yes a GTI, DSG. Sorry I didn't say. Actually I had ordered my car with a local dealer on 28th March, and was promised delivery in July. But then I got a really good dealer with another dealer and so cancelled. I ordered with the better deal dealership end of April, basically a month later.

I knew I would have to take a hit on the delivery time, but I saved around £1650 more.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 23:31
For those who have "got" a build date it would be useful to know when you ordered it, what equipment you have ordered and whether it is a GTD or GTI. Could be that GTIs are coming later than GTDs (or vice-versa), or maybe certain colours (Oryx White?) or equipment (Sun Roof?) hold things up. There may be a pattern to it, or it may be completely random.

I was just thinking exactly the same. Could be dealer allocation that means people are getting wildly different dates and obviously we need to remember that more than just us on here could have ordered gti's/gtd's. I think myself and maisbitt could be one of the exceptions as we both know when and how many cars have gone from our dealer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 May 2013, 08:30
Want to start another thread to collect some info?

Suggestions:

Anything else?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Whiteshirt on 11 May 2013, 08:44
Just had e-mail from dealer saying

I have  now been given a provisional build week of week 25, which is late June.  Assuming this doesn't change I would imagine the car will be here for late July.

I don't know if after all these forum posts, I can hold any faith in that.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 11 May 2013, 08:49
I still can't see how dealers can be giving build weeks when it appears VW in Germany haven't decided yet. 25 sounds promising though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 09:11
If my dealer hasn't heard anything by the start of week 23 and the tracker isn't updated with a build week by then i'll be on the phone to VW UK to see if they can shed some light. So what else will we have to talk about for the next 3 weeks?  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 09:21
When my Audi A1 was 12 weeks late I got it for 17200 instead of 20500. Depends on your negotiation skills I guess

Depends on the circumstance of your lateness and Audi being more interested in keeping UK customers happier than VW are.

Our GTI/GTD aren't officially late until they fail to arrive within a set period from allocated build week (i'm guessing somewhere in the region of 6 weeks?). As none of us have had an officially confirmed build week (visible on the tracker or a document that says what or build week - I don't consider a conversation with a VW UK rep over the phone to be "official") then they can't be held viable for lateness.

Was your A1 12 weeks later than a confirmed delivery date? With the level of discount given it sounds like Audi sanctioned that rather than the dealership. £3300 off a £20.5k car amounts to about 70% of a dealership's profit in the car. I would guess that 12 weeks late (corresponding to average lead time on a car) implies that your car was wrecked or considered unsuitable somewhere down the line and you got a new one built from scratch, or Audi somehow lost your order. Good result either way.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 11 May 2013, 09:26
Want to start another thread to collect some info?

Suggestions:
  • GTI/GTD
  • Order date
  • Estimated build week
  • Confirmed build week
  • Order x/x from dealer if known
  • Options, especially if DSG, satnav, paint

Anything else?

Why not just update the spec thread with the additional information? Are you just talking about the first 4 digits of the order number as i don't think i want to put the whole of my one on the interweb? :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 11 May 2013, 09:28
Want to start another thread to collect some info?

Suggestions:
  • GTI/GTD
  • Order date
  • Estimated build week
  • Confirmed build week
  • Order x/x from dealer if known
  • Options, especially if DSG, satnav, paint

Anything else?

Could just add the extra details to the spec thread as it has most of the other info on your list?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 09:30
Want to start another thread to collect some info?

Suggestions:
  • GTI/GTD
  • Order date
  • Estimated build week
  • Confirmed build week
  • Order x/x from dealer if known
  • Options, especially if DSG, satnav, paint

Anything else?

Aye, lets get it done. I would have a separate options and colour category.

I would expect Oryx White to be by far the rarest colour and most likely to cause a delay, followed by Limestone Grey (not seen one on the road or in the dealerships on a standard MK7 and Night blue (maybe no impact, it's not that rare on a standard MK7, although there probably won't be many GTI/GTDs with it.

Options that I would expect would potentially delay the build are Sunroof, ACC (will be a far more popular GTI/GTD option than standard MK7, but still comparatively rare), lane assist (can't see many MK7 owners across the range stumping up £520 for it). DSG if there are any known current supply issues (my dealer implied there aren't when I considered this on my dad's car).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 11 May 2013, 09:47
I've updated my entry on the Spec thread. If everyone does that with the build week we've all been told then we can compare order date with build week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 10:07
    Model:GTD
    VW UK input acknowledgement date: 30 March 2013
    Estimated build week: Week 22-24
    Confirmed build week: Who knows?
    Order 2317, first GTI/GTD order from Pulman Sunderland
    Options: None
    Colour: Tornado Red
    Changes to original order: DBP paint change to TR - shouldn't have an impact on build time.

I think I have a fair chance of being one of the earliest recipients - basic spec, common colour and first   order placed with my dealer.

OOPS! Wrong place to put it.  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 11 May 2013, 10:13
I've updated mine and the original post by mr GTD for future reference, i don't think you need to add the acknowledgement date cos not everyone will know that only the people that have asked for it.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 10:17
Jimble: I think order acknowledgement date is highly important. Your car hasn't been ordered with VW UK until that date. If you gave over a deposit to your dealer for your new GTI/GTD on 01 March and VW UK didn't accept the order until March 27th (when the books officially opened?) you're no further forward in the queue than someone who ordered on March 27th and their order was accepted by VW UK same day (if there is a logical queue :drool:).

If your dealer has emailed you (as a PDF) or posted you your order confirmation form it will have the order acknowledgement date and your tracking number.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 11 May 2013, 10:24
Like i said though not everyone has got that date, only the people that have had concerns, feel free to add it if you like but i wouldn't expect everyone to including myself.

Also could you do me a favour and just update your original posts in the spec thread please mate rather than adding new ones? Once you've done it i'll delete the new ones.

Cheers

 :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 10:34
Jimble: Done! I didn't think I would be able to modify a message so old. Other forums I have been on only let you modify your last message.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 11 May 2013, 11:10
Jimble: Done! I didn't think I would be able to modify a message so old. Other forums I have been on only let you modify your last message.


Thanks mate!  ;)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 11 May 2013, 13:40
I've updated mine and the original post by mr GTD for future reference...

Just noticed your updated spec details. Looks like we've both ordered 5 door GTi's (DSG) with PP & DCC in Pure White around the same time (you a day earlier than me).

However there does appear to be a significant difference between our 'estimated' build weeks (27 vs 35), possibly due to the other optional extras you've ordered. I'm guessing it's most likely the 'Pano Roof'??? (Could be talking a load of old rubbish mind you)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 13:56
Pano roof was the cause of huge delays for the Scirocco. They were low or out of some key components for about 7 months. At a time when Rocs were routinely being belted out in 11 weeks, some unlucky soul on my old forum waited 38 weeks for his!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 May 2013, 14:14
I fly back from Switzerland tonight so tomorrow I will do some analysis of the updates info in the spec sticky.  If enough of us have updatedrour posts that is.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 14:39
Had a look on the tracker for a laugh, but it can't retrieve my details ("503 service unavailable"). It can retrieve the details on some random non GTI/GTD orders I inputted though - updates imminent? It's probably just changing my paint colour officially rather than giving me an accurate build date! :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 11 May 2013, 15:04
The tracker has been playing up the last few days, a lot of the time it's been unavailable. I'm going to take this as a good sign that they're updating it for all our build weeks!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 11 May 2013, 15:31
I've updated mine and the original post by mr GTD for future reference...

Just noticed your updated spec details. Looks like we've both ordered 5 door GTi's (DSG) with PP & DCC in Pure White around the same time (you a day earlier than me).

However there does appear to be a significant difference between our 'estimated' build weeks (27 vs 35), possibly due to the other optional extras you've ordered. I'm guessing it's most likely the 'Pano Roof'??? (Could be talking a load of old rubbish mind you)

It may be the roof or the that i added the PP at a later date, can't remember the date mind? :embarrassed:
I've mentioned previously that it's not a massive issue for me with it being a little longer as i didn't want it till sept 1st anyway, it just means another couple of weeks wait if it doesn't come forward a little, tbf though i'm not really gonna suffer driving my mk6 for a couple more weeks! :grin:

I know a few of the guys are getting a little annoyed which is fair enough but i waited 6 months for my current car when the same sort of thing happened with the mk6 orders, so nothing new to me!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 11 May 2013, 19:38
I'm in no rush either.

I'll be really, really sad to see my mk6 go.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 12 May 2013, 20:16
I bet we'll get to 100 pages by Sept lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 12 May 2013, 20:21
I bet we'll get to 100 pages by Sept lol

I'm on page 9... you can change the settings to show 50 posts per page. :whistle:

EDIT: I bet we STILL get to 100 pages by sept heh heh
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 13 May 2013, 08:00
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

Hi Guys,

I sent an email to my dealer on Friday requesting an update on delivery.

Anyway, having being orginally given a week 33 build, I am now told it has been brought forward to week 27, however they stressed it cannot be confirmed until probably week 22. Roll on the next two weeks !!!

I hope for once that this is right and all orders have been moved forward now VW have pulled themselves together.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 May 2013, 10:56
Wk27 is the worst possible time for me so I hope not!  Its still a long time away, but not long enough to get the 63 plates or to save enough to significantly reduce the amount I need to borrow.  Most of the wait and no benefit. :angry:

I want it now or September...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 13 May 2013, 11:14
Mine is due to be built this week, going by the info the dealers gave me a couple of weeks ago. I'll keep you guys posted on what I hear!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 13 May 2013, 11:15
Bill: I'm in the exact same situation. Unless the car is coming mid Aug I don't think the dealer would be too pleased to keep it until Sep 1st.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 13 May 2013, 14:08
Well, had confirmation that the Wife's new Polo Blue GT will be arriving at the dealer approx 5th July, and have had no issues what so ever asking them to keep it until my GTD turns up (most likely mid to late September), so shouldn't be a problem ?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 13 May 2013, 14:33
Well, had confirmation that the Wife's new Polo Blue GT will be arriving at the dealer approx 5th July, and have had no issues what so ever asking them to keep it until my GTD turns up (most likely mid to late September), so shouldn't be a problem ?

She doesn't get her new car for months just because you can't have yours yet? That's so tight. Also it will be sat there getting filthy and dented in the tiny spaces in the dealership compound.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 13 May 2013, 14:36
Well, had confirmation that the Wife's new Polo Blue GT will be arriving at the dealer approx 5th July, and have had no issues what so ever asking them to keep it until my GTD turns up (most likely mid to late September), so shouldn't be a problem ?

She doesn't get her new car for months just because you can't have yours yet? That's so tight. Also it will be sat there getting filthy and dented in the tiny spaces in the dealership compound.

Yeah, I;'m a ba5tard aren't I  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Seriously, it was the wife's idea to take both cars on the same day, however now we know that hers will be some months ahead of mine, we are thinking, like you mention, that it won't be a good idea to leave it at a dealership for that time, so will probably take hers early in July.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 May 2013, 14:41
Yeah, I;'m a ba5tard aren't I  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Seriously, it was the wife's idea to take both cars on the same day, however now we know that hers will be some months ahead of mine, we are thinking, like you mention, that it won't be a good idea to leave it at a dealership for that time, so will probably take hers early in July.

Yeah, get her's delivered and let her drive you around while you look fed up and moan that your car isn't going to be available for ages.  Then, when she is feeling really sorry for you mention how some cookies/backrub/beer (delete word which do not apply) would cheer you up and bob's your uncle. :whistle:

Seriously, this works very well. :evil:

PS: Oh dear, this makes ME the ba5tard doesn't it?  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 13 May 2013, 14:53
Nice idea Bill, but clearly you don't know my wife. She's hard as nails and not easily swayed by trivialities like that  :grin: :grin:

She is a bank manager after all !
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 May 2013, 16:52
In hindsight this:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=253044.msg2327126#msg2327126

and this:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=253044.msg2327137#msg2327137

probably belong here.

Summary is, I'm itching to try a smash and grab raid on the VW order tracker site when they post the BW data.  That gives me 2-3 weeks for a feasibility study. heh heh heh
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 13 May 2013, 17:43
Had a chat with my dealer today. Still can't understand why my order for a standard GTD white 3dr has been given a build week of 32...neither can they but its true. I ordered early to no ovail.  She did say that GTI's will arrive much sooner and they have 3 black GTI's arriving very soon. Anyone else going with Stoke vw?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 13 May 2013, 18:00
German dealers already have cars, and so do some owners.

I think later this week, we will have build weeks.

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 13 May 2013, 18:09
German dealers already have cars, and so do some owners.

I think later this week, we will have build weeks.

Dave

http://files.vau-max.de/images/2013/04/vw-golf-7-gti-performance-werk-wob-produktion.jpg
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 May 2013, 18:18
German dealers already have cars, and so do some owners.

I think later this week, we will have build weeks.

Dave

http://files.vau-max.de/images/2013/04/vw-golf-7-gti-performance-werk-wob-produktion.jpg

That is my car, wheels & everything! I like! So where is the UK stock then?!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 13 May 2013, 18:23
German dealers already have cars, and so do some owners.

I think later this week, we will have build weeks.

Dave

http://files.vau-max.de/images/2013/04/vw-golf-7-gti-performance-werk-wob-produktion.jpg

That is my car, wheels & everything! I like! So where is the UK stock then?!

We're a small island with no power anymore
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 May 2013, 19:13
Was watching TV and it goes to the adverts so I get on with a bit of my new project when suddenly I hear:

"GTI IS BACK!"

Huh?  I look up expecting to see the first ad and.... WHAT? Peugeot?  FFS this is getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 13 May 2013, 19:15
Was watching TV and it goes to the adverts so I get on with a bit of my new project when suddenly I hear:

"GTI IS BACK!"

Huh?  I look up expecting to see the first ad and.... WHAT? Peugeot?  FFS this is getting ridiculous.

 :laugh: :laugh: :sick:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: SF-GTD on 13 May 2013, 19:22
Had a chat with my dealer today. Still can't understand why my order for a standard GTD white 3dr has been given a build week of 32...neither can they but its true. I ordered early to no ovail.  She did say that GTI's will arrive much sooner and they have 3 black GTI's arriving very soon. Anyone else going with Stoke vw?

Was there not a VW bulletin put up on here a while ago that suggested the actual "on sale"date for the GTD was early August?  I've always been under the impression that the GTD was going to be after the GTI, so wasn't surprised my provisional build week was later than the GTI orders.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 May 2013, 20:43
Varying dates have been bandied about from the press and mags but the on sale date was always June for the gtd according to the vw website.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jerseyal on 14 May 2013, 19:53
Ordered my gti on the 3rd of April here in Jersey on the Channel Isles got an order number but no build date as yet .My local salesman says it will be in the next week or so .Lets hope so !
.  Update on build week Went in to see my dealer on Sunday he said build week for my gti is week 24 not showing on the tracker so I'm living in hope !!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 May 2013, 20:08
Ordered my gti on the 3rd of April here in Jersey on the Channel Isles got an order number but no build date as yet .My local salesman says it will be in the next week or so .Lets hope so !
.  Update on build week Went in to see my dealer on Sunday he said build week for my gti is week 24 not showing on the tracker so I'm living in hope !!!

Could be hope for us yet if Jersey is treated in the same way as mainland UK, rather than like Ireland (who are already having theirs built (admittedly at greater cost and poorer standard spec).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 15 May 2013, 08:50
Build week 26 confirmed. Delivery by 28th of July  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 15 May 2013, 08:59
Build week 26 confirmed. Delivery by 28th of July  :smiley:

.......'stard, erm I mean Brilliant news mate  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 15 May 2013, 09:06
28th July, that's on the cusp of "do I pick it up now or ask the dealer to keep it until Sept 1st?".
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 15 May 2013, 09:15
28th July, that's on the cusp of "do I pick it up now or ask the dealer to keep it until Sept 1st?".

That all sounds great in theory until that date actually comes! ;)  All for the sake of a number on the reg plate...go private, it's far less bothersome (if slightly more expensive!)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 15 May 2013, 09:24
Honestly, you guys are getting too hung up on number plates. 13 or 63 will be totally irrelevant come selling time, won't make a difference.  Take the car asap!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 15 May 2013, 09:29
Honestly, you guys are getting too hung up on number plates. 13 or 63 will be totally irrelevant come selling time, won't make a difference.  Take the car asap!  :laugh:

We all know it's nothing to do with resale value ;)  It's plate envy! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 15 May 2013, 10:01
Yeah I will be taking the car ASAP :smiley: Luckily here in N.Ireland no one knows if you have a 13 or a 63 plate due to the format of our number plates...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 15 May 2013, 10:16
I just think 13 looks sh!t is all. :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 15 May 2013, 10:31
I just think 13 looks sh!t is all. :tongue:

No one will be looking at the number plate Bear!  And you won't be able to see it from the drivers seat!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 15 May 2013, 10:43
I just think 13 looks sh!t is all. :tongue:

No one will be looking at the number plate Bear!  And you won't be able to see it from the drivers seat!!  :laugh:

He will see it when he's topping up his oil every few months  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 15 May 2013, 10:49
I just think 13 looks sh!t is all. :tongue:

No one will be looking at the number plate Bear!  And you won't be able to see it from the drivers seat!!  :laugh:

He will see it when he's topping up his oil every few months  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Good point mb.

And damn you Craig! :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 15 May 2013, 10:56
Actually, although slightly off topic (apologies), talking about topping up oil, my Scirocco is my first with the CR (common rail) engine, and I have to say in 2½ years of ownership, I have never once - ever needed to top up my oil. It never moves between services. My older Golf 5 with the PD engine would regularly go through 1-1½ litres in between the annual services.

TBH, I know more mates with TSI and TFSI engines (especially Polo GTI) that drink oil much more than any diesel  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 15 May 2013, 11:02
Haha, we're talking about oil in like 3 different threads now! :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 15 May 2013, 11:07
Haha, we're talking about oil in like 3 different threads now! :laugh:

It's a fluid subject. I'll get me coat
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 15 May 2013, 11:08
Haha, we're talking about oil in like 3 different threads now! :laugh:

It's a fluid subject. I'll get me coat

I see what you did there, very slick  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 15 May 2013, 11:29
These jokes are just getting terriboil now! :D
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 15 May 2013, 12:15
Actually, although slightly off topic (apologies), talking about topping up oil, my Scirocco is my first with the CR (common rail) engine, and I have to say in 2½ years of ownership, I have never once - ever needed to top up my oil. It never moves between services. My older Golf 5 with the PD engine would regularly go through 1-1½ litres in between the annual services.

TBH, I know more mates with TSI and TFSI engines (especially Polo GTI) that drink oil much more than any diesel  :laugh:

Neither of my last 3 cars (including current Roc) have used a drop of oil between services - I have 3 x 1 ltr oil packs that came with those cars, untouched. The one before that however was the one ran in on motorway miles and was so thirsty for the oil it might as well have been 2 stroke.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 15 May 2013, 13:32
Did anyone else get a confirmed build week from their dealer today?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 15 May 2013, 13:35
Did anyone else get a confirmed build week from their dealer today?

Nope, when did you place your order?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 15 May 2013, 14:48
Ok, so as mk7gti was given an update today I thought I'd try my luck with VW on twitter.  Here is the (email) reply, and good news I've moved up a week from 27 to 26 (provisionally) woo hoo!

"Thank you for your contact in to our Twitter page regarding your Golf GTI order.
We have spoken with our Product Marketing Team and also our factory in Germany and can confirm your vehicle is scheduled to build in week 26 (w/c 24/06/2013).
At this stage the factory can not confirm to us a more definitive date to build your vehicle, we will have more information within the coming weeks which is why we quote 'lead times' to our retailer network. These lead times are the average build a specific vehicle can take and helps them to manage their customer expectations.
To ensure customers are being given the most up to date information possible, the factory and in tern Volkswagen UK quote the maximum lead time of 16 weeks for all newly released models. We do however, know your order will build and arrive in the UK before then.
When we place an order in our factory system it is given a scheduled build date which, until the factory confirm the build week is subject to change.  There can be many reasons for the change but for many it is purely capacity on the production line.
The likely hood of your vehicle moving from week 26 production is very low but until it is confirmed by the factory your retailer will be unable to commit to a delivery date. Once we know your vehicle's confirmed build date, an estimated delivery time can be arranged.

We appreciate this may not be the response you were hoping for and do understand our customers frustration when wanting more detailed information.
If you do require anymore information about lead times and how the Volkswagen supply chain works, it may be worth reading more on the link below to our Facebook page or speak with your retailer.

https://www.facebook.com/VolkswagenUK/app_362476440451045

Keep in touch with your retailer for an update on your order, once it is confirmed they'll be able to advise you.

Many Thanks

Social Media Customer Relations Team
Volkswagen UK Customer Services"

 :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 15 May 2013, 15:35
Did anyone else get a confirmed build week from their dealer today?

Nope. Were we meant to???

Matchboys estimated build week 26 is however in line with what my dealer confirmed to me a couple of weeks back, so that's an encouraging development.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 15 May 2013, 16:55
Just been given my build week of 28.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 15 May 2013, 17:10
Just been given my build week of 28.

??? Are these definitely "Confimed" or Estimated??

It's good news if they're definitely Confimed  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Stocks23 on 15 May 2013, 17:17
I ordered a mk7 GTD in Tornado Red, 5 door, manual with no additional spec on May 7th and have been given a provisional build date of 12/08/2013.  :cry: . Certainly seems to me VW are holding back the GTD whilst they look to push out the GTI. On the plus side I suppose is that with delivery in September I will at least have the new plates...

Does anyone know roughly how long it is before you get a confirmed build week following order?

Thanks
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 15 May 2013, 17:20
If they are confirmed they will appear on the website.

Email in a post above stated that the factory would not confirm this early but that they are "unlikely" to move.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 15 May 2013, 17:26
They confirm 4 weeks before actual build date I think.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 15 May 2013, 17:32
They confirm 4 weeks before actual build date I think.

Correct, thought that doesn't tell us much.  :tongue:  To elaborate on AAddict's point, we don't know how long between ordering and building, but 4 weeks before building they "confirm" and some time before that they can "estimate" which is what most of us have now.  They do say the outside estimate is 16 weeks.  So when you order it should not be more than 12 weeks before you get the confirmed build week (in most cases).

Also, just because someone gets a confirmed built that is a long time away doesn't mean much.  Could be that the dealer already used much of their allocation, or perhaps you ordered something like DSG which has restricted supply.  I wouldn't read anything into a single case, we'd need a pattern to make such conclusions.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 15 May 2013, 17:34
Thanks for clearing that up Bear...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 15 May 2013, 18:00
Do certain dealers get priority on dates?

I was the first to take an allocation slot from my dealer however I am build week 32..
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 15 May 2013, 22:17
I think it may be more to do with GTD's starting to get built later?  That build week puts you at roughly the same time as stocks23 who ordered 07/05/13.  I ordered my GTD on 02/05 but don't have an estimated date yet (was told to expect 16+ weeks)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: SF-GTD on 16 May 2013, 09:21
I think it may be more to do with GTD's starting to get built later?  That build week puts you at roughly the same time as stocks23 who ordered 07/05/13.  I ordered my GTD on 02/05 but don't have an estimated date yet (was told to expect 16+ weeks)

I've found the post that evo1986 made at the end of March.  It quotes a VW bulletin and says that the on sale date for the GTD is later than the GTI, so it makes sense that our GTD orders are getting later build weeks.

Quote
VW0336-13

...Open for ordering

Both the new GTI and GTD will open for ordering on 26 March, with the GTI going on sale on 18 June and the GTD a few weeks later on 5 August. We will update the volkswagen.co.uk car configurator and Connect Online to coincide with the open-for-order date.

We have ordered an initial batch of GTI and GTD models and we will let you know how these will be allocated to Retailers. An updated price list for the New Golf will also be available on the open-for-order dates and the publication will have full details of specification and equipment.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 May 2013, 09:44
I think its clear that VW won't be building any GTD's until the first batch of GTI's are done & dusted.  Sucks for GTD buyers, particularly those who ordered March/April.  Clearly, VW were happy to open the books for orders but not so clear about realistic delivery dates - stinks a bit really.  It's the same for the GTI (to a lesser extent) as most who ordered straight away were told BW22 and its looking like BW26 at the earliest - I know its a month, but still....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 16 May 2013, 09:49
I ordered a mk7 GTD in Tornado Red, 5 door, manual with no additional spec on May 7th and have been given a provisional build date of 12/08/2013.  :cry: . Certainly seems to me VW are holding back the GTD whilst they look to push out the GTI. On the plus side I suppose is that with delivery in September I will at least have the new plates...

Does anyone know roughly how long it is before you get a confirmed build week following order?

Thanks

If no GTDs are getting made for sale before Aug 5th and you ordered nigh-on 6 weeks after the earliest orders placed, you're not doing too badly in the grand scheme of things, the wait is long, but not ridiculously long (seemingly 15 or 16 weeks for you) They do say 4 weeks from scheduled notification to actual build week, but there is always the chance that if a GTI (or even a GTD) were to be made in week 24, it'll already be scheduled even if it won't be visible on the tracker until week 22 when MY14 is started.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 16 May 2013, 10:32
I think its clear that VW won't be building any GTD's until the first batch of GTI's are done & dusted.  Sucks for GTD buyers, particularly those who ordered March/April.  Clearly, VW were happy to open the books for orders but not so clear about realistic delivery dates - stinks a bit really.  It's the same for the GTI (to a lesser extent) as most who ordered straight away were told BW22 and its looking like BW26 at the earliest - I know its a month, but still....
You are probably right, but there is one other possibility.  With the ordering delays the GTI may have been effected but the GTD not (or less so) as it was always going to be later anyway.  If they can build at the same time then that may mean there is no (or less) delay to GTD.  They might end up being processed at about the same time.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 May 2013, 10:39
Sorry, should have clarified - I don't believe there will be any (major) delays to the GTD - I just don't think they will be built until July earliest, for an August delivery - which is not what some of you chaps were told.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Stocks23 on 16 May 2013, 11:00
Thanks for the all the responses guys  :smiley:. It seems all prospective GTD owners are in the same boat and facing the 16 week wait. If I'm honest a 2 week wait would've been too long so no matter what I was going to be impatient. On a positive note I really am impressed with the MK7 GTD and the spec of the new GTD really did surprise me. If you look at its competitors I would say it is industry leading with the items included as standard. I only went for the luxury mat set as additional. Would be interested to hear what other people went for?

If anyone is having trouble getting their proposed build date like I was I would recommend either contacting Volkswagen UK on twitter or emailing them at twitter@volkswagen.co.uk with your order number. This is how I got my proposed build date.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 May 2013, 11:09
I think the trouble is that (most) of us, myself included, are champing at the bit to get their new toy - so any delays are a killer!  Thing is, once we all get it you'll think 'that was soooo worth the wait!!'
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 16 May 2013, 11:21
Thanks for the all the responses guys  :smiley:. It seems all prospective GTD owners are in the same boat and facing the 16 week wait. If I'm honest a 2 week wait would've been too long so no matter what I was going to be impatient. On a positive note I really am impressed with the MK7 GTD and the spec of the new GTD really did surprise me. If you look at its competitors I would say it is industry leading with the items included as standard. I only went for the luxury mat set as additional. Would be interested to hear what other people went for?

Yup, any wait is a killer, so I'm just resigned to playing the pessimist for now!

I went for the GTI, as I fail to see the benefits of buying such an expensive brand new diesel if ongoing costs are a concern.  Plus, a GTD just isn't a GTI ;) I got the luxury mats too, but thrown in free. Separately I added Adaptive Chasis Control, Winter Pack, Keyless Entry, Discovery Nav, Reverse Camera and Heated Windscreen (plus mandatory Premium Phone Prep).

All things I don't have in my current Mk5, but have used and experienced in other cars.  As a keeper, I wanted the spec to be perfect, and this is as close as it gets for me as an overall package.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 16 May 2013, 12:15
Mats come free anyway. I don't know how all these build dates keep flying around on here. I've just spoken to VW and they say no build dates will be confirmed until wk22 which is w/c 27th May. Also said that gtd's won't be arriving after gti's in august. They are both on sale from June, with no priority over basic vanilla orders or specced to the hilt. If this is true (chap seemed to know what he was talking about) then great.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 16 May 2013, 12:21
Standard mats come free, luxury ones don't.  As for the build dates, I get the same from my dealer - nothing will be known until week 22, which as you say is w/c 27th May.  I have a note in my calendar to call that day to make sure the spec. is final and includes the Heated Screen that couldn't be added previously as it wasn't on the system even after the new price changes and brochure.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 16 May 2013, 12:33
Luxury mats or standard - they all wear away around the floor where you're operating pedals. I'll be whipping my front ones straight out and getting some rubber mats in there, they keep the car far tidier - good for the wet and have a generous lip that keeps the grit and dirt tracked in off your shoes in one place for easy removal. Do the standard mats have GTI or GTD logos on them seeing as only the GT, GTI and GTD have free carpet mats? Do the luxury ones (if the standard ones don't)? From past Golf/Roc luxury isn't much better than standard.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 16 May 2013, 12:38
I've just spoken to VW and they say no build dates will be confirmed until wk22 which is w/c 27th May. Also said that gtd's won't be arriving after gti's in august. They are both on sale from June, with no priority over basic vanilla orders or specced to the hilt. If this is true (chap seemed to know what he was talking about) then great.

I was told exactly the same thing by my dealer weeks ago - that we won't get any confirmed build weeks until w/c 27 May - 3 June (so BW 22-23). So what McMaddy says rings true.

Still a horrible wait though :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Stocks23 on 16 May 2013, 12:41
Mats come free anyway. I don't know how all these build dates keep flying around on here. I've just spoken to VW and they say no build dates will be confirmed until wk22 which is w/c 27th May. Also said that gtd's won't be arriving after gti's in august. They are both on sale from June, with no priority over basic vanilla orders or specced to the hilt. If this is true (chap seemed to know what he was talking about) then great.

All build dates mcmaddy are proposed and not confirmed. However these are more than likely to be pretty close to the confirmed dates. Good to hear that VW are saying no prioirty is being given between the GTI and GTD however the fact VW have promoted only the GTI in the press says otherwise.

In regards to mats il be honest I have no idea what is different between the luxury and standard matts. I do know however that the dealer I was ordering my GTD through was desperate to get a deal done (last day of month) and so I tried to squeeze everything out him I could  :tongue:.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 May 2013, 12:42
Build Weeks may not be confirmed until BW22 but they still should be able to give you a provisional date - that will be known, VW won't be suddenly allocating BW's on 27th May to everyone, they will have planned well in advance.  I know having a provisional date means nothing really, but it is nice to have it so you can dream about delivery day!  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 16 May 2013, 12:46
Luxury mats or standard - they all wear away around the floor where you're operating pedals. I'll be whipping my front ones straight out and getting some rubber mats in there, they keep the car far tidier - good for the wet and have a generous lip that keeps the grit and dirt tracked in off your shoes in one place for easy removal. Do the standard mats have GTI or GTD logos on them seeing as only the GT, GTI and GTD have free carpet mats? Do the luxury ones (if the standard ones don't)? From past Golf/Roc luxury isn't much better than standard.

Nah, I hate rubber mats in terms of look and feel.  Also never had carpet mats wear significantly either - the ones in my Mk5 GTI still look great when vacuumed and steam cleaned.  Not sure on logos on either though - think maybe the luxury ones have a Golf logo on them?  Anyways, being free I'm not fussed - will have a full set of standard spares at the very least!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 16 May 2013, 13:01
Luxury mats or standard - they all wear away around the floor where you're operating pedals. I'll be whipping my front ones straight out and getting some rubber mats in there, they keep the car far tidier - good for the wet and have a generous lip that keeps the grit and dirt tracked in off your shoes in one place for easy removal. Do the standard mats have GTI or GTD logos on them seeing as only the GT, GTI and GTD have free carpet mats? Do the luxury ones (if the standard ones don't)? From past Golf/Roc luxury isn't much better than standard.

Nah, I hate rubber mats in terms of look and feel.  Also never had carpet mats wear significantly either - the ones in my Mk5 GTI still look great when vacuumed and steam cleaned.  Not sure on logos on either though - think maybe the luxury ones have a Golf logo on them?  Anyways, being free I'm not fussed - will have a full set of standard spares at the very least!

Do the luxury mats come with the GTI logo on them?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 16 May 2013, 13:04
Do the luxury mats come with the GTI logo on them?

From the configurator...

Quote
These high quality, luxury carpet mats are made from hardwearing, thick-woven velour with an abrasion-proof coating on the rear side. They do not only improve the look of your Golf's interior with their white Golf lettering and edging but also protect it from dirt.

So yeah, as I suspected it is just a Golf logo.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 16 May 2013, 18:46
Just got word from my dealer - my car is being built today  :laugh:
He expects to see it arrive by end of the month. Wohooooo!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 16 May 2013, 19:14
Great news Joe!!  :smiley: I look forward to reading your review at the end of the month.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 May 2013, 19:33
Wow! Brilliant news Joe, can't wait to hear about how it drives!

Out of interest Joe, if you go on the order tracker is anything showing up on that?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 16 May 2013, 20:02
Wow! Brilliant news Joe, can't wait to hear about how it drives!

Out of interest Joe, if you go on the order tracker is anything showing up on that?

I can't find any order tracker on the Irish website and I don't have an order number anyway!

It's less than 6 weeks since I placed the order which isn't bad going I think.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 16 May 2013, 20:12
Spoke to the execs office today..GTD's will be built in August, no sooner, and that was always the plan. Misleading advertising?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 May 2013, 20:19
Wow! Brilliant news Joe, can't wait to hear about how it drives!

Out of interest Joe, if you go on the order tracker is anything showing up on that?

I can't find any order tracker on the Irish website and I don't have an order number anyway!

It's less than 6 weeks since I placed the order which isn't bad going I think.

It's unheard of! To say I'm jealous is an understatement!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 16 May 2013, 21:55
Spoke to the execs office today..GTD's will be built in August, no sooner, and that was always the plan. Misleading advertising?


What's the point in making them in august? Everyone will just wait until september for delivery. pi** up and brewery come to mind!! Not everyone has ordered a gti and the soon as VW realise this the better. Website still says on sale June and that's what VW told me today.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 16 May 2013, 23:06
Spoke to the execs office today..GTD's will be built in August, no sooner, and that was always the plan. Misleading advertising?

That's depressing news that ROO :cry:

What and who is the 'Execs Office'?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 17 May 2013, 07:58
I can't see why VW would want to make gtd customers wait until august. If the orders are placed then make them, just makes economic sense.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 17 May 2013, 10:01
I'm gonna engage in some wild mass guessing now and suggest we shouldn't believe anything they say no matter the source! :grin: :grin: :grin:

I think the GTDs and GTIs will probably arrive about the same time despite what they say and that this will be approximately August for the first bunch.  I'm not expecting mine before September.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 17 May 2013, 10:24
September delivery is good for me - part ex-value is guaranteed and I save up a whole chunk of cash in the meantime!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Stocks23 on 17 May 2013, 10:33
I think we can safely say Our GTD's will be arriving September at the earliest. Out of interest when you say your part ex price is guaranteed, is this something you have in writing from the dealer?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 17 May 2013, 10:41
As I mentioned in a previous post, my GTI is currently being built as we speak. I ordered it on April 8th. The dealer had ordered a GTD for stock/demo about 2-3 weeks before that and they tell me that the GTD is still "processing". It hasn't yet been allocated a build week!
This would tally up with you guys on here. It would seem that GTD orders are slower than GTI's.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 17 May 2013, 10:44
I think we can safely say Our GTD's will be arriving September at the earliest. Out of interest when you say your part ex price is guaranteed, is this something you have in writing from the dealer?

Yes, I have my order written down and signed by myself and the finance manager, which clearly states what they are giving me in part-ex.  They work on a 3 - 4 month lead time when valuing the car, but it's not my issue if it takes them much longer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 17 May 2013, 10:47
As I mentioned in a previous post, my GTI is currently being built as we speak. I ordered it on April 8th. The dealer had ordered a GTD for stock/demo about 2-3 weeks before that and they tell me that the GTD is still "processing". It hasn't yet been allocated a build week!
This would tally up with you guys on here. It would seem that GTD orders are slower than GTI's.

Yes but you are in Ireland. (you lucky ba5tard!) :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 17 May 2013, 10:48
I did the same with Gryzor and made sure that part of the "deal" was that they honoured the part Ex price given to me in April for my Scirocco, no matter when the GTD arrives (August, September etc.). They are taking the risk that Scirocco price won't drop too far below what they can make money on, but to be honest that's their problem not mine.

And yes, I certainly have this in writing, even to the point where the dealer informed me that the deposit amount I would have to pay on the GTD would drop as I would have made additional payments on the Rocco in the meantime so my collateral in the car keeps increasing the longer they take to deliver the GTD.

It really is to their benefit to deliver my GTD ASAP to realise as much profit as possible on the Rocco.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 17 May 2013, 11:13
Norbreck21: It's in the dealership's interest to get you your GTD sooner to minimise depreciation on the P/X, but VW UK couldn't care either way. We really aren't going to know anything for sure until at least W/C 27 May when we may get a firm tracker update. Everything right now is hearsay from people at various stages in the supply chain that have an indication of what might happen. My P/X price is locked and like you all the time i'm without the GTD, my collateral in the current car is increasing.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 17 May 2013, 20:04
Anyone else got wk 25 as a provisional build date?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 17 May 2013, 20:20
Anyone else got wk 25 as a provisional build date?

I wish, my provisional is week 34  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Champagne on 17 May 2013, 20:32
My dealer, Camberley, rang me today with a build date of week 28.
I have a TT lease running til Oct so ideally won't take delivery til Sept or Oct.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 17 May 2013, 23:40
Anyone else got wk 25 as a provisional build date?

I wish, my provisional is week 34  :angry:

Count your blessings... Mine is 36!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 18 May 2013, 15:35
My dealer, Camberley, rang me today with a build date of week 28.
I have a TT lease running til Oct so ideally won't take delivery til Sept or Oct.

I'm week 28 too, dealer txt me Friday to say still sitting on Wk28 and should stay that way now until confirmed. Fingers crossed!  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 18 May 2013, 19:49
It sounds like GolfTI will be the first UK member to get his car with a build week of 25. I'm week 26 but mine has to come a little further north...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 18 May 2013, 20:02
Anyone else got wk 25 as a provisional build date?

Week 26 as it stands at the moment,went from 23 to 26
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 18 May 2013, 20:04
I doubt if they will send one lonely GTI on its own.

The boat will be full of them.
Our build weeks aren't confirmed yet so may be delayed or brought forward by a week ( or two).

I am starting to get really excited now.

I think if delivery was on August 31st I'd still take it and not wait for the 63 plate. :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 May 2013, 20:28
26 last time I checked. With any luck we'll all get brought forward to 24 and they can all come over on the same boat!  Couldn't care less about the number plate, I'd take delivery tomorrow if it was available!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 18 May 2013, 20:44
I went to my local dealer today to see wtf on earth was happening with my car. Yes they told me the wait would be long. But I don't give a sh!t. I want it now if I'm being honest, waiting around isn't my strong point!

Anyway, GTD aside he said the demo GTI would be at the dealer by the end of this month.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 20 May 2013, 12:24
It sounds like GolfTI will be the first UK member to get his car with a build week of 25. I'm week 26 but mine has to come a little further north...

Just got a confirmed build week of 24!!!

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 May 2013, 12:37
It sounds like GolfTI will be the first UK member to get his car with a build week of 25. I'm week 26 but mine has to come a little further north...

Just got a confirmed build week of 24!!!

Dave

Can you tell us all when your order was accepted by VW UK (when you got your tracking number, if you got one) and what your spec is? I'm hoping that mine will also be early doors as I was first to order from my dealership (ordered 39th March, order processed and accepted by VW UK 30th March, standard spec 5DR). Hopefully my change in paint colour a few weeks ago hasn't bumped me down the queue.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 20 May 2013, 13:23
3 Door
DBP
Manual
Winter Pack
Dynaudio
Performance Pack (added later)

Order placed 01/04/13

Dealer sent me the order number on 05/04/13

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 May 2013, 14:52
Has your dealer confirmed this date or was it VW themselves?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 20 May 2013, 14:58
Has your dealer confirmed this date or was it VW themselves?

Indeed this is the question.  Because according to VW no build dates will be confirmed until next Monday.  It may well be provisional though, which means it will be unlikely to change - so lucky you!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 20 May 2013, 15:03
I looked on the VW tracker, and it now says build week confirmed, however it does not say which week.

I contacted the dealer then and they looked and came back with week 24.

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 20 May 2013, 15:06
I looked on the VW tracker, and it now says build week confirmed, however it does not say which week.

I contacted the dealer then and they looked and came back with week 24.

Dave

So completely the opposite against what VW has told some of us!  :rolleyes: Thanks for the info Dave.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 20 May 2013, 15:10
My dealer e-mailed me on Saturday, and as of that date, there was no news of a build date, and told again that week 22 onwards is when we'll start to see some traction.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 May 2013, 15:43
I looked on the VW tracker, and it now says build week confirmed, however it does not say which week.

I contacted the dealer then and they looked and came back with week 24.

Dave

For the rest of us, not having an update on the tracker might not mean anything - we've all seen to varying degrees how sh!te it can be, from my Dad's number with the wrong colour assigned to the car to those whose order changes are not seen, to others whose tracking number doesn't work.  If time of ordering, your place within the dealership's allocation queue and few or no options has the biggest bearing then there are some here who should be also getting their cars built as soon as week 24 (I have a few days on you for order placed Dave)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 20 May 2013, 15:47
To be fair the dealer I'm ordering from is small(ish) and they are not part of a big group or anything, so probably more straight forward to order things?

Regarding the VW tracker, when I added the Performance Pack, a day later it was showing updated on the tracker (220 before 230 now).

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 20 May 2013, 16:39
Following a few e-mails, I just had a nice call from a lady at VW who is personally looking into things for me.  Apparently they couldn't even get into their own systems this morning, but she will call me back later this week with some more details about my order.  She backed up what others have said about the online tracker sometimes not showing until there is a confirmed build week, but to coin her phrase, "it's a bit flakey!" :grin:

I also got the contents of my entire order re-confirmed, because it turns out they made several errors when transposing the order information.  While my telephone number, mobile number, and house number were correct on the order printout I got from the dealer, the numbers she had in her system were incorrect.  Not sure why things needed inputting separately, but anyway, might be worth checking.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 20 May 2013, 16:47
Following a few e-mails, I just had a nice call from a lady at VW who is personally looking into things for me.  Apparently they couldn't even get into their own systems this morning, but she will call me back later this week with some more details about my order.  She backed up what others have said about the online tracker sometimes not showing until there is a confirmed build week, but to coin her phrase, "it's a bit flakey!" :grin:

I also got the contents of my entire order re-confirmed, because it turns out they made several errors when transposing the order information.  While my telephone number, mobile number, and house number were correct on the order printout I got from the dealer, the numbers she had in her system were incorrect.  Not sure why things needed inputting separately, but anyway, might be worth checking.

Good info!

Not sure whether to trust them of call them myself though.  I guess there is no way of knowing if our orders are right if we don't call and check!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 20 May 2013, 16:56
Good info!

Not sure whether to trust them of call them myself though.  I guess there is no way of knowing if our orders are right if we don't call and check!

Can't hurt to call - I know it doesn't really change anything, but it's nice to know at least something, even if it's to not expect anything.  I guess I'm just too used to managing peoples expectations in my job and personal life, and almost expect the same back...  Nice thing now though is, I have a name of an individual I can call.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 May 2013, 18:46
I have never known VW ordering being so haphazard with potentially incorrect order information and complete lack of information available to the dealer or the buyer. What is it with the MK7 that is so hard to plan out properly? I'm hoping that next week i'll be pleasantly surprised with a week 23/24 build confirmed!

@ Dave: the dealership I ordered from is part of a group of only 2 branches so should be no complications with other branches snaffling group allocations (I can see this potentially happening for big groups though). The other branch hadn't apparently ordered a GTI/GTD for anyone before my order went in. Oh well, i'll bide my time for further official info.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 May 2013, 19:34
I have never known VW ordering being so haphazard with potentially incorrect order information and complete lack of information available to the dealer or the buyer. What is it with the MK7 that is so hard to plan out properly? I'm hoping that next week i'll be pleasantly surprised with a week 23/24 build confirmed!

@ Dave: the dealership I ordered from is part of a group of only 2 branches so should be no complications with other branches snaffling group allocations (I can see this potentially happening for big groups though). The other branch hadn't apparently ordered a GTI/GTD for anyone before my order went in. Oh well, i'll bide my time for further official info.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but according to customer service guy I spoke to today gti's are coming first with gtd's coming in august/September. I'm sitting on wk34 which I think is totally unacceptable buy he said it was always VW's intention to do it this way. When I asked why the website says on sale June he said that was for gti's only!! wtf is going on at VW?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 May 2013, 19:46
McMaddy: Week 34? W/C 19th August. Jeez. I haven't chased mine through VW UK to see if mine is any sooner than that, still unsure whether yours was ordered before my dads. If that is an accurate time for yours then you'll definitely be on the new plate.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 20 May 2013, 19:49
I'm still stuck on wk36 :cry:

And my order is for a GTI. :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 May 2013, 20:20
McMaddy: Week 34? W/C 19th August. Jeez. I haven't chased mine through VW UK to see if mine is any sooner than that, still unsure whether yours was ordered before my dads. If that is an accurate time for yours then you'll definitely be on the new plate.


mine and your dads were ordered on the same day I think. I'm hoping that VW over here don't actually know what's happening yet and the proper dates will be earlier.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: linc-dub on 21 May 2013, 08:48
mcmaddy - I'm told BW34 for my GTD ordered on 19.05.13
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 21 May 2013, 09:39
I'm told BW34 for my GTD ordered on 19.05.13

Linc-dub... Confirmed or estimated BW?

Mine was ordered 9.4.13 and I still have heard a dickie bird. Needless to say the phone will be on speed dial to my dealer next week :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 21 May 2013, 10:01
My dealer has confirmed today I'm still showing BW26.  He did confirm however that my GTI will be the first the dealership receives, which is good.  However just shows that the first car they are getting is 4 weeks later (in terms of build week) than originally predicted by VW, and this is a pretty big dealership.  VW are clearly behind in their production for the UK it seems.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 21 May 2013, 13:00
mcmaddy - I'm told BW34 for my GTD ordered on 19.05.13
I oredered mine on 2nd April so it may be true about all gtd's having the same build wk of 34. Hope not as its turning out to be misrepresentation here!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 21 May 2013, 13:44
My dealer has confirmed today I'm still showing BW26.  He did confirm however that my GTI will be the first the dealership receives, which is good.  However just shows that the first car they are getting is 4 weeks later (in terms of build week) than originally predicted by VW, and this is a pretty big dealership.  VW are clearly behind in their production for the UK it seems.
I'm not sure it is really behind.  BW24 is still the earliest anyone has isn't it?  I'm guessing a lot of the week 22 and 23 cars might be more demos or something?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 21 May 2013, 14:02
I'm not sure it is really behind.  BW24 is still the earliest anyone has isn't it?  I'm guessing a lot of the week 22 and 23 cars might be more demos or something?

No, they are definitely behind.  GTI's were supposed to start production BW22, the demos should all ready be made and ready for 1st June in the showroom.  I know BW24 is the earliest we have on here but it should have been BW22!  :laugh: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 21 May 2013, 15:19
mcmaddy - I'm told BW34 for my GTD ordered on 19.05.13
I oredered mine on 2nd April so it may be true about all gtd's having the same build wk of 34. Hope not as its turning out to be misrepresentation here!!

I tried ringing VW UK up for my build date (projected or complete guess) and the system is down. They're supposedly going to ring me back tomorrow morning when they hope the system is back up.

If my build week does end up being considerably sooner than mcmaddy's then it would lend credibility to limited order assignments per dealership, e.g. If mine was week 24 (or 25/26), my dad's was 29 (or 30) and mcmaddy's is 34, then we're talking about a real 1 per month/5 weeks allocation per dealership (assuming my dad's order just pipped mcmaddys on same day). @mcmaddy i'll pm you my dad's order no so you can let me know whether yours if before his or after.

German efficiency and reliability lacking here on the order system.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sbaker31 on 21 May 2013, 15:25
Hi all I ordered mine on 8th of April and have a build week of 34!
Have been told it could be brought forward but I doubt it!!
Should still beat the 9 and a half month wait for my Scirocco.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 21 May 2013, 17:02
mcmaddy - I'm told BW34 for my GTD ordered on 19.05.13
I oredered mine on 2nd April so it may be true about all gtd's having the same build wk of 34. Hope not as its turning out to be misrepresentation here!!

I tried ringing VW UK up for my build date (projected or complete guess) and the system is down. They're supposedly going to ring me back tomorrow morning when they hope the system is back up.

If my build week does end up being considerably sooner than mcmaddy's then it would lend credibility to limited order assignments per dealership, e.g. If mine was week 24 (or 25/26), my dad's was 29 (or 30) and mcmaddy's is 34, then we're talking about a real 1 per month/5 weeks allocation per dealership (assuming my dad's order just pipped mcmaddys on same day). @mcmaddy i'll pm you my dad's order no so you can let me know whether yours if before his or after.

German efficiency and reliability lacking here on the order system.
pm'd you matthew
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 21 May 2013, 17:08
Welcome sbaker! Week 34 is not too long await.... Hopefully you'll get it before the new Mk8 arrives anyway :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 21 May 2013, 17:14
You are getting me worried now!

I was the third person to order a GTi from my dealership.

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 21 May 2013, 17:54
I like how this thread has over 14.5k views, yet probably something like 50 contributors.  Either there are a lot of people reading this via google search results or something, or else the 50 of us are so desperate for news we've each been mashing the refresh key every few seconds for the past month. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 21 May 2013, 17:59
I like how this thread has over 14.5k views, yet probably something like 50 contributors.  Either there are a lot of people reading this via google search results or something, or else the 50 of us are so desperate for news we've each been mashing the refresh key every few seconds for the past month. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Hahahaha :grin: I'm probably guilty for around 10k of those views  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 21 May 2013, 19:16
Haha this thread might as well be my home page!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 21 May 2013, 19:24
Can't help thinking that only if VW had provided some quality build information we'd only have a couple of pages haha
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Andy_cs on 21 May 2013, 19:26
My order was confirmed on May 7th and I was told BW36 provisionally yesterday, hope it comes forward but not holding my breath
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 21 May 2013, 19:39
Well at Pulman Sunderland, mcmaddy beat my dad to a same day order, and I was in a few days before him.Looks like my dad will be getting his in Sept at the earliest.

If VW had been the main manufacturer of Panzer tanks and Messershmitts we wouldn't have started WW2 until 1944!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Movi on 21 May 2013, 19:48
The Later Build Dates for GTD suits me as I don't want it until 63 plate in september. which coincides with my mk6 gtd turning 3.

Been told my GTD laydown should be mid August which suits me.

FYI when I enquired about the pana roof option, dealer told me this would delay the order longer due to assembly on a different production line. don't know if this is true or not?



Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 21 May 2013, 19:55
Well at Pulman Sunderland, mcmaddy beat my dad to a same day order, and I was in a few days before him.Looks like my dad will be getting his in Sept at the earliest.

If VW had been the main manufacturer of Panzer tanks and Messershmitts we wouldn't have started WW2 until 1944!

hahaha
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 21 May 2013, 22:39
I ordered my GTD on the 15th of this month, been told 12 weeks. Just waiting on a factory order reference.

Going for the 5 door, pure white, panoramic roof, sound pack and ACC.

I was going to order the winter pack but decided against it. I did notice however, the winter pack has changed on the website today.

Previously it stated 'heated seats, heated washers and fluid level warning', but it has changed to 'Winter pack with leather and Bi-Xenons'.

Does that mean that people who opted with the winter pack WITHOUT leather are now getting refused the option?

Seems things are still being revised after orders are taken.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 21 May 2013, 22:43
I ordered my GTD on the 15th of this month, been told 12 weeks. Just waiting on a factory order reference.

Going for the 5 door, pure white, panoramic roof, sound pack and ACC.

I was going to order the winter pack but decided against it. I did notice however, the winter pack has changed on the website today.

Previously it stated 'heated seats, heated washers and fluid level warning', but it has changed to 'Winter pack with leather and Bi-Xenons'.


Does that mean that people who opted with the winter pack WITHOUT leather are now getting refused the option?

Seems things are still being revised after orders are taken.


That is really strange  :huh: It looks like it's no longer an option if you don't spec leather
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 May 2013, 00:45
I ordered my GTD on the 15th of this month, been told 12 weeks. Just waiting on a factory order reference.

Going for the 5 door, pure white, panoramic roof, sound pack and ACC.

I was going to order the winter pack but decided against it. I did notice however, the winter pack has changed on the website today.

Previously it stated 'heated seats, heated washers and fluid level warning', but it has changed to 'Winter pack with leather and Bi-Xenons'.

That is really strange  :huh: It looks like it's no longer an option if you don't spec leather

Does that mean that people who opted with the winter pack WITHOUT leather are now getting refused the option?

Seems things are still being revised after orders are taken.
Weeeeeeeeell...... It also still thinks colour MFD is a £135 option, and we know that is bogus.  Call your dealer, I don't trust the config thingy.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 22 May 2013, 09:16
Oh dear, this just gets worse!  So I just got an e-mail from VW, which contains:

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I am delighted to learn of your recent purchase of a Golf GTI. I am, however, sorry that you could not find the information that you were looking for on our website. We are in the process of updating the website and we hope to have the site working as normal in the very near future.

I have spoken with our Sales Team and I can confirm that your order is currently scheduled to be built in the week commencing 16 September. This is still subject to confirmation from our colleagues in Germany.

So that would potentially put delivery at mid-October...  A far cry from the late August delivery I was told by my dealer.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 May 2013, 10:00
Oh dear, this just gets worse!  So I just got an e-mail from VW, which contains:

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I am delighted to learn of your recent purchase of a Golf GTI. I am, however, sorry that you could not find the information that you were looking for on our website. We are in the process of updating the website and we hope to have the site working as normal in the very near future.

I have spoken with our Sales Team and I can confirm that your order is currently scheduled to be built in the week commencing 16 September. This is still subject to confirmation from our colleagues in Germany.

So that would potentially put delivery at mid-October...  A far cry from the late August delivery I was told by my dealer.

That's week 38... WTF????  How many cars are they building each week?  What the hell are they doing between week 14 and 38?  Thats 17 weeks, about a third of a year.  How many coffee breaks can you have?  FFS don't these Germans keep telling us they are super efficient?

I was originally told to expect delivery "July/August", meaning end of July or beginning of August.  If they now said delivery would not be before mid October I'll be mighty pissed off!

:angry: :angry: :angry:

On the plus side it will definitely be a 63 plate.  But this is a pretty small plus side.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 22 May 2013, 10:12
That's week 38... WTF????  How many cars are they building each week?  What the hell are they doing between week 14 and 38?  Thats 17 weeks, about a third of a year.  How many coffee breaks can you have?  FFS don't these Germans keep telling us they are super efficient?

I was originally told to expect delivery "July/August", meaning end of July or beginning of August.  If they now said delivery would not be before mid October I'll be mighty pissed off!

:angry: :angry: :angry:

On the plus side it will definitely be a 63 plate.  But this is a pretty small plus side.

Yup, bit of a joke huh?!  I was also told to expect August delivery by my dealer.  Plate is irrelevant to me as I'll have a private one for it.  For me it's not really about the build date, it's the uncertainty around the specification.  If I knew it was going to be exactly what I wanted, I wouldn't have a problem.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 10:55
If we're lucky they might have us wait until MY15 when the climate windscreen will be standard equipment*

(*Don't quote me on that). Still waiting for my "first thing" phonecall back from VW UK. I take back all of my old opinions about india based broadband helpdesks.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simoor on 22 May 2013, 10:59
Spoke to Chester VW yesterday and they said my Golf GTI should be in production in 3 weeks (placed order 3 days after release), they said I should have a definite build date in 10 days time.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 12:17
I decided to ring VW UK as they hadn't returned my call. The customer services lass put me on hold for a good 5 mins while they were speaking to sales.. I thought the wait might be a good sign as they're usually back to me immediately, telling me that they can't get hold of sales.

Well she had an answer for me, but it was a bit of a strange one, considering mcmaddy ordred same day as my dad, just pipping my dad to it and he's been given week 34.

My car (order confirmed March 30th) = Week 26 (5DR Man, no options).
My dad's car (order confirmed April 3rd) = Week 25 (5DR DSG, no options).

The only explanation I can think of for my car being made a week after my dad's is potentially my change of colour (from DBP to TR), could it have bumped me down the queue a week or 2?

If mcmaddy's week 34 is correct then it looks like the only logical explanation is a delay associated with his options. I wonder whether everyone being quoted week 32+ who ordered in March or the first week of April have a common option that is holding things up?

I'm assuming there has to be some logic here and that's the only logical assumption I can think of.

The lass on the phone did empasise that the dates quoted are only preliminary scheduling and could be subject to change (hopefully brought forward if anything). She reckoned also that the car would be built within 2 weeks of that date and 10 days after that it should've been delivered to the dealership, PDI'd and potentially in my hands. From all the additional stuff like that she'd told me it did seem as though she knew what she was talking about.

The disparity between mcmaddy's and my dad's orders seems to throw the allocation assumption out. If our dealership (one of only 2 in the group) has a limited allocation and mcmaddy got in after me but before my dad, why is his scheduled 9 weeks later? It does seem as though options are playing a part unless mcmaddy's info provided by VW UK is out of date and they're now providing better forecast of accurate (! :laugh:!)build times.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 May 2013, 12:34
If mcmaddy's week 34 is correct then it looks like the only logical explanation is a delay associated with his options. I wonder whether everyone being quoted week 32+ who ordered in March or the first week of April have a common option that is holding things up?

I'm assuming there has to be some logic here and that's the only logical assumption I can think of.

The lass on the phone did empasise that the dates quoted are only preliminary scheduling and could be subject to change (hopefully brought forward if anything). She reckoned also that the car would be built within 2 weeks of that date and 10 days after that it should've been delivered to the dealership, PDI'd and potentially in my hands. From all the additional stuff like that she'd told me it did seem as though she knew what she was talking about.

The disparity between mcmaddy's and my dad's orders seems to throw the allocation assumption out. If our dealership (one of only 2 in the group) has a limited allocation and mcmaddy got in after me but before my dad, why is his scheduled 9 weeks later? It does seem as though options are playing a part unless mcmaddy's info provided by VW UK is out of date and they're now providing better forecast of accurate (! :laugh:!)build times.

Good info.  If you check out my "spec and options popularity" thread I recently did an analysis of which options might cause delays and your 2 orders + mcmaddy were some of the most useful ones in this.  Interestingly the only delay I could identify was that adding the sunroof bumps things to week 35ish... I recent conversation with a dealer that someone posted bears this out as the dealer said sunroof requires a different build and bumps the order to BW 30-something.

However, mcmaddy didn't go for the sunroof IIRC?  So still not got to the bottom of it!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Golf7 on 22 May 2013, 12:38
I rang VWUK today for an update on my order for a GT (with some options) and this is getting beyond a joke, this is basically what has happened:

8th March: Ordered Golf GT, pacific blue, Xenons, 2Zone, Park assist, de-badge

15th March: I find out (luckily) online that the Xenon option I have ordered won't have the 'U' shaped LED drls, which is what was shown in the brochure the dealership gave me. I send an email to dealership asking for them to investigate.

26th March: after numerous emails and phone calls to the retailer they are having no joy in getting the information they need from VWUK, so I contact VWUK directly, who themselves don't seem to be able to confirm what is happening one way or another with the Xenon lights. I ask for one thing: don't let my order go to build week confirmed until we know if the Xenons with LED drls will be an option in the coming weeks, and if they do become an option will VWUK foot the bill for the more expensive second option?

4th April: I am finally informed by my retailer that the option that was specified on my order was the Xenons without LED drls and that VWUK have declined upgrade me to the Xenons with LED drls option as a gesture of goodwill, but the 'good news' is that my car is now in 'build week confirmed'. This isn't good news as I will be keeping this car for 4 years so it has to be 100% right! I check with the VWUK Executive office and the reason VWUK won't pay the extra is because they made the retailers aware of this issue back in February apparently. My retailer was having none of that.

5th April: As the original order can no longer be modified (as it is build week confirmed), I cancel the order and place a new order. As the campaign has now changed this means the pricing, residuals etc are not quite the same and even by removing the metallic paint and going with Tornado Red, which should have balanced out the additional £400 for the more expensive Xenon option, it doesn't quite work like this and the car is a few quid a month more than the original one, which I have to swallow.

6th May: I call VWUK customer services to check on the progress of my new order and am told that it is due to be built week 21 (end of May) and I should expect delivery end of June/early July. Happy days as my A3 goes back on 28th June.

22nd May: I call VWUK to double check the order is still on track and I am now told that it is now due for build around week 27, July, although this is not confirmed and I won't expect delivery until at least early August.

Needless to say I AM NOT A HAPPY BUNNY!!!!

I have spoken to the executive office again who say they will 'see what they can do' but I won't hold my breath. I told them I am not so angry about the waiting time, it is just the fact I am told something different every time I speak to them! The whole experience has been a ball-ache from start to finish.

DIABOLICAL!!!  :sick:


Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 12:42
I ordered my GTD last week with the Panoramic roof, manual, ACC and Dynaudio sound and my estimated build is WK33.

One question though, do the Bi-Xenons / LED lights on the GTD / GTI come standard with the cornering function?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 May 2013, 12:45
I think the trouble arises because of two things: one, VW UK are sh!te. And two, they clearly have no say whatsoever - so as much as we can all phone them and ask them to do this and that, they have no control over what happens in Germany.

Awful service so far from VW UK.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 22 May 2013, 12:46
I ordered my GTD last week with the Panoramic roof, manual, ACC and Dynaudio sound and my estimated build is WK33.

One question though, do the Bi-Xenons / LED lights on the GTD / GTI come standard with the cornering function?

Valenni, Maybe re-post your question in this thread about Xenons: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=253945.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=253945.0)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sam67GTD on 22 May 2013, 12:54
I ordered my GTD last week with the Panoramic roof, manual, ACC and Dynaudio sound and my estimated build is WK33.

One question though, do the Bi-Xenons / LED lights on the GTD / GTI come standard with the cornering function?

Hi Valenni

What dealership did you order from?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 22 May 2013, 12:56
I really hope somebody from VW UK HQ reads this thread to realises how p*ssed off many of its customers are. There is a lot of ill feeling flying around due to frustration and unclear messages from VW. Venting our anger over the phone only gets us so far. Not much a first contact phone-monkey-telesales-advisor can do is there :angry: It's the decision making bosses that need a V-2* shaped rocket up their a$$es!

* Apologies for the WWII reference, just couldn't resist ;-)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 22 May 2013, 12:57
If mcmaddy's week 34 is correct then it looks like the only logical explanation is a delay associated with his options. I wonder whether everyone being quoted week 32+ who ordered in March or the first week of April have a common option that is holding things up?

I'm assuming there has to be some logic here and that's the only logical assumption I can think of.

The lass on the phone did empasise that the dates quoted are only preliminary scheduling and could be subject to change (hopefully brought forward if anything). She reckoned also that the car would be built within 2 weeks of that date and 10 days after that it should've been delivered to the dealership, PDI'd and potentially in my hands. From all the additional stuff like that she'd told me it did seem as though she knew what she was talking about.

The disparity between mcmaddy's and my dad's orders seems to throw the allocation assumption out. If our dealership (one of only 2 in the group) has a limited allocation and mcmaddy got in after me but before my dad, why is his scheduled 9 weeks later? It does seem as though options are playing a part unless mcmaddy's info provided by VW UK is out of date and they're now providing better forecast of accurate (! :laugh:!)build times.

Good info.  If you check out my "spec and options popularity" thread I recently did an analysis of which options might cause delays and your 2 orders + mcmaddy were some of the most useful ones in this.  Interestingly the only delay I could identify was that adding the sunroof bumps things to week 35ish... I recent conversation with a dealer that someone posted bears this out as the dealer said sunroof requires a different build and bumps the order to BW 30-something.

However, mcmaddy didn't go for the sunroof IIRC?  So still not got to the bottom of it!

The only option i changed was the adaptive chassis control but that was added on 28th April and I still have the same order number as my original one. Im wondering now if my change has meant me being dumped to the bottom of the pile at VW. i must just cancel and get a car from a different brand as loyalty seems to get you nowhere these days!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 13:00
I ordered my GTD last week with the Panoramic roof, manual, ACC and Dynaudio sound and my estimated build is WK33.

One question though, do the Bi-Xenons / LED lights on the GTD / GTI come standard with the cornering function?

Hi Valenni

What dealership did you order from?

Agnews. Great service from the guys there too. I imagine they are eager to shift these cars ASAP and would rather not have any holdups.

Although I suspect things will become clearer over the next few weeks.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 13:18
I ordered my GTD last week with the Panoramic roof, manual, ACC and Dynaudio sound and my estimated build is WK33.

One question though, do the Bi-Xenons / LED lights on the GTD / GTI come standard with the cornering function?

If there is any logic in the build date allocation then you've done OK to have only ordered last week and have a BW earlier than some here, even with the Pano roof which I would assume to be prime suspect option for delaying orders. Of course if there are formal dealership allocations, you might've struck lucky by still being the first order for your chosen dealership.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sam67GTD on 22 May 2013, 13:29
I ordered my GTD last week with the Panoramic roof, manual, ACC and Dynaudio sound and my estimated build is WK33.

One question though, do the Bi-Xenons / LED lights on the GTD / GTI come standard with the cornering function?

Hi Valenni

What dealership did you order from?

Agnews. Great service from the guys there too. I imagine they are eager to shift these cars ASAP and would rather not have any holdups.

Although I suspect things will become clearer over the next few weeks.

Yeah, same as myself in Boucher Road. I've been given a build week of 35, despite ordering the car on 9th April. Hope it sorts itself out over the next week or so!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 13:31
I ordered my GTD last week with the Panoramic roof, manual, ACC and Dynaudio sound and my estimated build is WK33.

One question though, do the Bi-Xenons / LED lights on the GTD / GTI come standard with the cornering function?

If there is any logic in the build date allocation then you've done OK to have only ordered last week and have a BW earlier than some here, even with the Pano roof which I would assume to be prime suspect option for delaying orders. Of course if there are formal dealership allocations, you might've struck lucky by still being the first order for your chosen dealership.

On the other hand, it's just an estimate, subject to change of course.  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 13:31
The only option i changed was the adaptive chassis control but that was added on 28th April and I still have the same order number as my original one. Im wondering now if my change has meant me being dumped to the bottom of the pile at VW. i must just cancel and get a car from a different brand as loyalty seems to get you nowhere these days!!

Has anyone else who ordered ACC had a sub week 30 estimated build week from VW UK? This could be one of the big delay options.

Chris: Got anything else in mind for the replacement? The only thing i'd consider  instead of a GTD would be a Leon FR if you are after something relatively quickly (maybe a stock one being built/has been built with no allocated customer), A3 a possibility but they don't have the 184PS TDI yet. The best option is the GTD if you can hack the wait.

Makes me wonder if Mick tried telling you ACC wasn't worth the money partially to avoid the order delay that might come with the option. Chances are there's only a limited number of lines dedicated to ACC set-up and the queue is inevitably longer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 22 May 2013, 13:43
The only option i changed was the adaptive chassis control but that was added on 28th April and I still have the same order number as my original one. Im wondering now if my change has meant me being dumped to the bottom of the pile at VW. i must just cancel and get a car from a different brand as loyalty seems to get you nowhere these days!!

Has anyone else who ordered ACC had a sub week 30 estimated build week from VW UK? This could be one of the big delay options.

Chris: Got anything else in mind for the replacement? The only thing i'd consider  instead of a GTD would be a Leon FR if you are after something relatively quickly (maybe a stock one being built/has been built with no allocated customer), A3 a possibility but they don't have the 184PS TDI yet. The best option is the GTD if you can hack the wait.

Makes me wonder if Mick tried telling you ACC wasn't worth the money partially to avoid the order delay that might come with the option. Chances are there's only a limited number of lines dedicated to ACC set-up and the queue is inevitably longer.

Im going to ring him and see what he says. Do you think he'd be pi**ed if i changed my order again??
Ive seen a leon fr supercopa but its not a golf gtd, i even thought about a mk6 but im that hacked off with vw im thinking of changing brand altogether. To what I havent got a clue.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 13:53
The only option i changed was the adaptive chassis control but that was added on 28th April and I still have the same order number as my original one. Im wondering now if my change has meant me being dumped to the bottom of the pile at VW. i must just cancel and get a car from a different brand as loyalty seems to get you nowhere these days!!

Has anyone else who ordered ACC had a sub week 30 estimated build week from VW UK? This could be one of the big delay options.

Chris: Got anything else in mind for the replacement? The only thing i'd consider  instead of a GTD would be a Leon FR if you are after something relatively quickly (maybe a stock one being built/has been built with no allocated customer), A3 a possibility but they don't have the 184PS TDI yet. The best option is the GTD if you can hack the wait.

Makes me wonder if Mick tried telling you ACC wasn't worth the money partially to avoid the order delay that might come with the option. Chances are there's only a limited number of lines dedicated to ACC set-up and the queue is inevitably longer.

I was looking at the FR 184 TDI prior to the GTD and after many delays I gave up and went for the GTD. SEAT tell me the 184 Bhp engine wont even begin production until October earliest.  They could not even take my order!
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 13:53
Chris (mcmaddy): If another change would get Pulman their sales money a few months quicker then I think Mick would be up for it, although he'll probably wish you hadn't changed in the first place. Right now he might not be aware you've been given a week 34 build if he's patiently waiting for next week before chasing up again.

Nothing else out there that you could get quickly ticks all the boxes that the GTD/GTI does, unless you like BMW 1 series styling and don't mind paying out a lot in options to get the spec up.

It would be good for the statisticians amongst us to tabulate order date against week build quoted (for those of us that have pestered VW UK) with ticky boxes for certain options like ACC and sunroof to see if there is a pattern in later builds for those options. I can't see some of the options like satnav causing delays as they're standard equipment or just as likely to be ordered on any model of Golf.

For me the sunroof is a delay on all models - VW seem to have difficulty in sourcing the parts and they'll probably all be built down 1 specific line - it's expensive for what it is.

ACC won't be a big seller for those Golfs not coming with big wheels. It's an expensive option that gives the biggest comfort benefit for those on 18/19" wheels. These are the 2 options (maybe also the Pearl white paint or PP on the GTIs) that I would expect to delay the build. Anyone care to do the maths?
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 13:59
I was looking at the FR 184 TDI prior to the GTD and after many delays I gave up and went for the GTD. SEAT tell me the 184 Bhp engine wont even begin production until October earliest.  They could not even take my order!

So the Leon is out before the Golf, the FR is "available to order" well before the GTD and they can't get hold of any 184PS TDIs? Looks like VW got fist dibs on the engine and forgot to tell SEAT about it. My local SEAT dealer is crap - gives bottom book on p/x and no discount on the new car. I could understand bottom book if I was p/xing a Renault Clio against a Jag, but p/xing a VW against a SEAT, there should be no penalty as VW sits higher up than SEAT in the VAG hierarchy.
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Post by: matchboy on 22 May 2013, 14:07
It would be good for the statisticians amongst us to tabulate order date against week build quoted (for those of us that have pestered VW UK) with ticky boxes for certain options like ACC and sunroof to see if there is a pattern in later builds for those options.

Where's The Bear when you need him?!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 May 2013, 14:53
My car (order confirmed March 30th) = Week 26 (5DR Man, no options).
My dad's car (order confirmed April 3rd) = Week 25 (5DR DSG, no options).

If mcmaddy's week 34 is correct then...

Hang on a minute.  These are all GTD orders aren't they?  Didn't someone say their dealer had "confirmed" that no GTDs would be built until August and that was "always the intention"???  Weeks 25-26 are mid June!

Its kind of hard to trust anything really.  I want to assume they know what they are talking about but it seems like almost every dealer/customer service rep has a slightly different take on what is going on.  There is just too much contradiction here.
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Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 May 2013, 15:06
It would be good for the statisticians amongst us to tabulate order date against week build quoted (for those of us that have pestered VW UK) with ticky boxes for certain options like ACC and sunroof to see if there is a pattern in later builds for those options.

Where's The Bear when you need him?!

Aha!  A quest after my own heart!  (or something like that)

How about I make such a form and then post it here for all to fill in?  I think it should be in a new topic though to make it visible to everyone who visits but maybe doesn't read this entire thread.  My boss has gone off somewhere so I'm unsupervised right now (heh heh), I'll get back to you shortly.
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Post by: matchboy on 22 May 2013, 15:10
Sounds good Bear, nice one!  Yes, a new topic would be good so we can find it & fill it in without searching through the pages on this thread!!
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 15:11
Bill: I think Chris (mcmaddy) might've meant VW UK told him that. Our dealer would've slapped our p/x prices right down if he thought the cars were coming 2 months after he'd said they would. At point of ordering I was told end of June/start July for pick-up was most likely, but he admitted at that point he didn't know for sure until VW put it in the build schedule. He told me that I was the first order for a GTD (or a GTI) on Pulman's books and that they hadn't ordered any demos (not sure whether they're obliged to at some point).
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Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 15:16
I was looking at the FR 184 TDI prior to the GTD and after many delays I gave up and went for the GTD. SEAT tell me the 184 Bhp engine wont even begin production until October earliest.  They could not even take my order!

So the Leon is out before the Golf, the FR is "available to order" well before the GTD and they can't get hold of any 184PS TDIs? Looks like VW got fist dibs on the engine and forgot to tell SEAT about it. My local SEAT dealer is crap - gives bottom book on p/x and no discount on the new car. I could understand bottom book if I was p/xing a Renault Clio against a Jag, but p/xing a VW against a SEAT, there should be no penalty as VW sits higher up than SEAT in the VAG hierarchy.

Well, the FR 150Bhp was available to order, but the 184Bhp was not and is still not. (Even though it was reviewed by the trades since December 2012)
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Post by: matchboy on 22 May 2013, 15:18
and that they hadn't ordered any demos

That is utter b0llocks, they will have ordered demos ready for a June delivery.  He's telling your porkies.

Initial demos take priority over customer orders - that's not right and shouldn't be the case but that's life unfortunately.
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 15:25
and that they hadn't ordered any demos

That is utter b0llocks, they will have ordered demos ready for a June delivery.  He's telling your porkies.

Initial demos take priority over customer orders - that's not right and shouldn't be the case but that's life unfortunately.

I'll look forward to my test-drive in a few weeks if that's the case. Wasn't sure whether smaller groups of dealers would escape obligatory demo purchases (1 each for GTD and GTI), Pulman only have 2 VW branches. At least if they have a demo mine won't be first in the place and all the unwanted curiosity that might bring in the showroom.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 15:28
I suppose if mine has been delayed a week or 2 over my dad's because of my colour change it would mean that my colour change has been acknowledged (the tracker is still showing DBP because they've never updated it upon receipt of change presumably).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 15:46
Just got my order number and went onto the website to check.

It's 'Processing your order' Which is OK with me. But should the 'my car details' on the right not show my extras also?


Your car:

New Golf GTD 2.0 TDI 184 PS 6-speed Manual 5 Door
Colour: Pure White
Upholstery:
Titan Black


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Post by: matchboy on 22 May 2013, 15:50
Valenni - it should do, yes!  But it doesn't - that's the most you'll get I'm afraid!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 16:09
Valenni - it should do, yes!  But it doesn't - that's the most you'll get I'm afraid!

Ahh so no need to worry then. Good.  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 May 2013, 16:10
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=254181.0
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Post by: mk7gti on 22 May 2013, 19:28
Valenni did you order from Boucher or Mallusk?
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Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 21:16
Valenni did you order from Boucher or Mallusk?

Boucher mate. You?
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Post by: CraigW on 22 May 2013, 21:20
How long do you have to stare at this track my order website before the status changes to build week confimed? My eyes hurt  :cry: :cry:
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Post by: mk7gti on 22 May 2013, 21:27
Mallusk I will have to keep an eye out for you around Belfast  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: blueheaduk on 22 May 2013, 22:11
How long do you have to stare at this track my order website before the status changes to build week confimed? My eyes hurt  :cry: :cry:

Maybe I've misread a few posts but I don't think anyone has website confirmation yet! Just info over the phone from dealers/VW UK
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Post by: peterdoherty on 22 May 2013, 22:27
Valenni & mk7gti were you able to get any decent discount out of agnews? They wouldn't play ball with me at all for a 5dr GTD DSG with a lot of extra kit for either a cash sale or trade in (offered a ridiculously low trade in value on my 3YO GT TDI DSG which has been serviced with them for its life). Basically the only thing they were willing to discount was gap insurance (still way overpriced).

Found Boucher really pushy to close the deal and really pushing the PCP deal. Getting a few emails from the salesman still.

Ended up buying across the water (at dealer near family over there) at the weekend being approx £5k better off with decent deal and a realistic private sale price (fingers crossed).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 22 May 2013, 22:43
I have to say I was happy with my deal. I tried Edwin Mays but they couldn't compete. To be fair you will find Agnews have probably sold their allocation for the next few months hence the harsh line on price.
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Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 22:43
Mallusk I will have to keep an eye out for you around Belfast  :smiley:

Yeah, just don't be racing me.  :cool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 22:45
Valenni & mk7gti were you able to get any decent discount out of agnews? They wouldn't play ball with me at all for a 5dr GTD DSG with a lot of extra kit for either a cash sale or trade in (offered a ridiculously low trade in value on my 3YO GT TDI DSG which has been serviced with them for its life). Basically the only thing they were willing to discount was gap insurance (still way overpriced).

Found Boucher really pushy to close the deal and really pushing the PCP deal. Getting a few emails from the salesman still.

Ended up buying across the water (at dealer near family over there) at the weekend being approx £5k better off with decent deal and a realistic private sale price (fingers crossed).

To be very honest, I looked around the main site in the UK and Ireland and they were all pretty much the same. Maybe because I ordered so late? (By that time they were running out of allocation)?

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Post by: peterdoherty on 22 May 2013, 23:58
I have to say I was happy with my deal. I tried Edwin Mays but they couldn't compete. To be fair you will find Agnews have probably sold their allocation for the next few months hence the harsh line on price.

yep prob right about their allocation. Think I must have gotten lucky at the english dealer. Tried a few other dealers over there and no discounts to be had
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 23 May 2013, 10:23
Hi Everyone,

Emailed my dealer yesterday just to confirm that the changes i'd made to my spec had been done.

I got an email back with the following image attached, confirming my spec. But also with build week info, Week 37!!!

(http://s17.postimg.org/roqxcw5vv/Order.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/roqxcw5vv/)

Just to advise how far off the mark this is, my order confirmation from the dealer stated mid August delivery. With the possibility it may go back 'A few weeks'.
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Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 23 May 2013, 10:28
Hi Everyone,

Emailed my dealer yesterday just to confirm that the changes i'd made to my spec had been done.

I got an email back with the following image attached, confirming my spec. But also with build week info, Week 37!!!

(http://s17.postimg.org/roqxcw5vv/Order.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/roqxcw5vv/)

Seems to be saying you are week 37, but were originally week 39.  Just remove "2013" from the start of the number.

Sorry for the bad news. Is it a GTD or did you grab a sunroof?  I have a theory that sunroofs and GTDs are delayed until around week 36 ish.  But there are some major inconsistencies and I'm still low on data points.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 23 May 2013, 10:29
Yes it's a GTD, no sunroof however.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 23 May 2013, 11:18
Something for everyone to remember - the August shutdown. VW production will be closed for 2 or 3 weeks sometime at the end of July or first few weeks of August (weeks 31 and 32 I suspect) and we should see a gap in actual build dates as a result. Orders treated the same way for same spec placed a day apart could end up getting built a few weeks apart.

You can't get away from an annual shutdown in a high volume production environment. Lots of annual maintenance jobs (complete cleandown of paint shop booths and preventative maintenance on robots, air handling units for airtooling etc) get done along with planned line and building modifications that can't be squeezed in on a wekend (assuming they don't work them on CSPs anyway).

I used to work for a structural steelwork contractor at the Ford Transit van plant in Southampton - you'd be surprised how many changes get made to line and buildings all the time as a result of optimisations etc.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 23 May 2013, 13:43
My dealer has just emailed me with the usual 2 week update. He has said mine is week 26 (same as VW UK said yesterday) but my dad's will be 2 or 3 weeks after (3 or 4 weeks later than VW UK said yesterday). Maybe it's to do with the "build date" window of a few weeks and maybe mine is at the front of a window and my dad's is at the back of it, or maybe there's just a big (4 week) margin of error between any 2 different VW UK representatives.
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Post by: JoeGTI on 23 May 2013, 14:17
Mine is now "awaiting shipment"  :smiley:

Anyone know how long it typically takes to go from that point to actually arriving at the dealers?

The dealer told me it's missed the boat for this week. I would imagine there's a boat at least once a week?
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Post by: Gryzor on 23 May 2013, 14:47
Provisional week 38 here...complete joke!
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 23 May 2013, 14:53
JoeGTI: From Germany to UK port is a 1 or 2 days, from port to dealership should be anywhere between 1 and 3 days (my dealership is about 8 miles from the Port of Tyne where it will be shipped to, so hopefully a day for me).

No idea whether yours goes straight to Ireland by ship (likely) or whether it gets shipped to the UK, transported across to a western port and then ferried to Ireland. If it goes straight to Ireland from Germany then maybe there is only one ship a week.

There used to be an excellent VW boat tracker on Scirocco Central forum and RW1 could track anything from there, but he died recently and no-one else has taken up his mantle. If you know the name of the boat and what port it would be coming to/leaving from there are websites to check the progress of ships. A few old boys from down the street use the website as I live above the mouth of the Tyne and they all do "boat spotting" with their high end camera gear as they sail by our street.
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Post by: JoeGTI on 23 May 2013, 15:11
JoeGTI: From Germany to UK port is a 1 or 2 days, from port to dealership should be anywhere between 1 and 3 days (my dealership is about 8 miles from the Port of Tyne where it will be shipped to, so hopefully a day for me).

No idea whether yours goes straight to Ireland by ship (likely) or whether it gets shipped to the UK, transported across to a western port and then ferried to Ireland. If it goes straight to Ireland from Germany then maybe there is only one ship a week.

There used to be an excellent VW boat tracker on Scirocco Central forum and RW1 could track anything from there, but he died recently and no-one else has taken up his mantle. If you know the name of the boat and what port it would be coming to/leaving from there are websites to check the progress of ships. A few old boys from down the street use the website as I live above the mouth of the Tyne and they all do "boat spotting" with their high end camera gear as they sail by our street.

Thanks mate, yeah I remember looking at that thread on the Scirocco Central forum when I was waiting for my GTD! Wow, that guy died, oh my god, that's awful... he really knew his stuff on the shipping.

To the best of my knowledge, the cars are shipped directly to Ireland - to either Dublin or Cork as far as I know. I suppose it's just a question then of how often an Ireland-bound ship departs Germany... ? Once it's in Dublin, I'd expect it to be in the dealers by the following day.
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Post by: Sootchucker on 23 May 2013, 15:21
Yeah Chris (RW1) died quite recently and suddenly. A big shock for all of us, and the forum is worse off for his departure. He had an amazing wealth of knowledge and was ready to help anyone. A sad time for all us Rocco owners.
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Post by: JoeGTI on 23 May 2013, 17:26
OK, so my dealer just confirmed that my car missed the recent boat departing for Ireland and there isn't another one scheduled for a couple of weeks. He's not expecting to see it arrive until the 13th/14th of June. How slow are these bloody boats, it would nearly swim it in that time!

The delay kinda suits me in a way, as I was hoping not to register it anyway until July 1st (our registrations change to a "new" plate in July for the 2nd half of the calendar year).
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Post by: Torch on 23 May 2013, 17:43
My Golf GTi was ordered on 30th April.
VW UK have confirmed a manufacture date of 26th August at the latest but are optimistic of bringing that forward.
Live in hope for September 1st.

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Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 May 2013, 07:51
One thing I can glean from my week 26 build date, the "no GTDs are being made before August" line appears to be bollocks and it would appear that if there is any VW sanctioned delay on GTD production compared to GTI then it is a matter of a few weeks (is week 24 still the earliest GTI order conformation for UK mainland orders?).
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Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 May 2013, 11:01
My dealer just emailed me.  My estimated BW has changed from 36 to 37... :angry:

I think I might call VW because I don't really trust the dealer is doing anything more than reading off a computer screen which may not be accurate.  Seems like people who have called in get a response that feels more reliable.

In other news, I updated the analysis thread with some info.  Not very interesting but helps pass the time.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=254181.msg2331215#msg2331215

Could really use more than 2 people with confirmed BWs to respond to the survey though! haha.

EDIT:
Can anyone recommend a method of contacting VW that gets the best results?  Seemed like there was some praise for the responses via twitter a while back?
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 May 2013, 11:04
Bill: My dealer has always given me the impression that every update he has given me was as of a result of what VW UK tell him, not what he can see on a computer, although I would hope that a dealership would have access to better and more accurate info than we are. The only use for that tracker would seem to be for us to be assured it is on a boat from leaving the factory when it finally gets built.
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Post by: mcmaddy on 24 May 2013, 11:07
Dealers should have direct access to VW in Germany. I just think VW UK are totally clueless when it comes to orders, dates, cars, configurators, pricelists..............................
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Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 May 2013, 11:36
Yes but what is the nature of that direct access?  Is it just reading the output off this screen:
http://postimg.org/image/roqxcw5vv/

I'm not sure that is as reliable as talking to someone who checks with the factory directly.

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Post by: Gryzor on 24 May 2013, 13:02
My dealer just emailed me.  My estimated BW has changed from 36 to 37... :angry:

I'm provisional week 38 mate.  Had this confirmed by three different sources at VW, including my dealer this morning who called me.  Nothing that can be done about it unfortunately, but on the bright side, my part-ex is fixed, and I can save up more cash in the meantime.
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Post by: mcmaddy on 24 May 2013, 13:07
Im nearly in the same boat. Wk 34/35 but with fixed trade in. Less to pay off more to save, only plus side mind!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 May 2013, 14:04
Build weeks in the 30s let alone high 30s are just ridiculous.  One response I just had to the survey puts the guy on a BW of 43!  I really hope that one is a typo as his spec isn't that dissimilar to mine and he ordered in the same week I did :cry:.

I've contacted VW on Twitter to ask if they can get a better explanation of what is going on than my dealer can.  This wouldn't be hard as my dealer has no info at all other than a BW number.

They promised to look into it and get back to me Wednesday at the latest.
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Post by: Gryzor on 24 May 2013, 14:08
I agree Bear, it's ridiculous, and I've expressed my displeasure to my dealer, to the point that I will be insisting on some level of compensation if delivery goes beyond August as they told me.
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Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 May 2013, 14:46
I agree Bear, it's ridiculous, and I've expressed my displeasure to my dealer, to the point that I will be insisting on some level of compensation if delivery goes beyond August as they told me.

Yes.  Moving the date around by a couple of weeks seems fair but I'm currently looking at an additional two months on top of a lead time that was already almost four months!  Its not like the factory burnt down or any other kind of special circumstances either... they just can't seem to give proper estimates or any reason why its going to take so long to make the cars.  Its as if they're making just one a day and they have assigned the order semi randomly. :angry:
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 May 2013, 15:44
Bill: Am I right in thinking that it looks like my dad's GTD will be the first mainland UK GTD getting here and maybe even the first DSG GTD?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 May 2013, 17:08
Bill: Am I right in thinking that it looks like my dad's GTD will be the first mainland UK GTD getting here and maybe even the first DSG GTD?

There is a GTI with a confirmed BW the week before your dad's, but it is manual.  After that your dad's car is the first GTI or GTD confirmed.  So currently yes, he is first GTD and first DSG in the UK (that we know of).

However, there is a GTD DSG that was ordered the week before his that currently does not have a BW confirmed yet.
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Post by: MkVIIGTD on 24 May 2013, 18:47
What week was your GTD ordered?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 24 May 2013, 19:05
Bill: Am I right in thinking that it looks like my dad's GTD will be the first mainland UK GTD getting here and maybe even the first DSG GTD?
However, there is a GTD DSG that was ordered the week before his that currently does not have a BW confirmed yet.

Bill that would be me - and I still haven't heard a sodding thing :angry:

No estimated or confirmed build week. Im defo gonna play hell on the phone next week.
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 May 2013, 19:29
What week was your GTD ordered?

MKVIIGTD: My dad's order was officially accepted with order no from VW UK on 3rd April (as was McMaddy's, from same dealership). My Manual 5dr GTD (no extras) was ordered 3 days previous and 2 weeks later I changed colour from DBP to TR, which may have bumped me back a little (a week going by what VW UK have told me)..
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: MkVIIGTD on 24 May 2013, 19:37
Has your dads got any extras?
My order was accepted by vw uk on 4th April. And I'm getting estimated build date of week 34!!  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 May 2013, 19:50
MKVIIGTD: No extras, just 5DR DSG standard spec. It was ordered in TR but the tracking info shows DBP as the colour (a colour he'd considered but didn't want to pay £500). If it arrives as DBP he'll be quite pleased with it as he will not be paying for something he never asked for. The original order acceptance document clearly states TR for colour, but the VW tracker website says otherwise.

I do think certain extras are kicking these orders to the back of the queue (i'm guessing ACC and sunroof but Bear's stats might tell us more when people confirm their BW with him).
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Post by: GolfTi on 27 May 2013, 19:28
Build week confirmed on tracker.
Week 25.

Anyone else??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 27 May 2013, 19:44
Build week confirmed on tracker.
Week 25.

Anyone else??

Yes, my Dad. Your inclusion of ACC blows my "ACC delays build" theory right out of the water - you may be the earliest confirmed UK build that has ACC on as an option.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 27 May 2013, 21:01
I have made no changes to my original order, maybe that's the key thing.
I knew exactly what I wanted.
DSG will delay things as will changes to spec.
GTD will be quite a few weeks later.

Late June/early July delivery. :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 27 May 2013, 21:28
Meant to ask, but why is a panoramic roof not allowed with the 19" wheels? The configuration tool won't allow them both as options.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 27 May 2013, 21:31
Build week confirmed on tracker.
Week 25.

Anyone else??

No confirmation yet, but it looks like we placed our orders around the same time. Our orders are very similar however I've opted for DSG & 19" Santiago's which may have added another 2 weeks (purely speculating btw).. I've been given a provisional date of wk 27 which should (if the theory is correct) be confirmed next week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: SF-GTD on 27 May 2013, 22:06
Meant to ask, but why is a panoramic roof not allowed with the 19" wheels? The configuration tool won't allow them both as options.

It's discussed elsewhere on here, but I think the consensus was that it increases the kerb weight too much.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 May 2013, 07:48
Meant to ask, but why is a panoramic roof not allowed with the 19" wheels? The configuration tool won't allow them both as options.

It's discussed elsewhere on here, but I think the consensus was that it increases the kerb weight too much.

I think it's as much, if not more to do with the stiffer ride on the 19" wheels that may play havok with the operation of the sunroof mechanism. A way around VW not giving you the option would be to buy sunroof with 18" wheels and get someone else you know to order their GTI (non-sunroof) with 19" wheels (chucking them the extra cost upfront) then swap wheels over upon delivery of both cars. That relies on knowing someone who's also ordering a GTI who won't want to keep them upon arrival and offers you your money back instead. Might be something a dealer is prepared to do on a GTI they might be ordering in for themselves (if they haven't already got one). Not sure how that would affect warranty for any issues with the sunroof that may occur.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 May 2013, 09:28
Ok, so bored of waiting for the tracker to update so called VW this morning.  Chap said I'm now BW28 and not BW26 which I was told - by them - a couple of weeks ago.  Asked why I've gone backwards and he said BW28 is the earliest build week for any GTI of my spec.  Unsure of what that actually means, to be honest I don't believe him anyway as he didn't sound like he knew what he was talking about. To say I'm not happy is an understatement.  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 May 2013, 10:02
Ok, so bored of waiting for the tracker to update so called VW this morning.  Chap said I'm now BW28 and not BW26 which I was told - by them - a couple of weeks ago.  Asked why I've gone backwards and he said BW28 is the earliest build week for any GTI of my spec.  Unsure of what that actually means, to be honest I don't believe him anyway as he didn't sound like he knew what he was talking about. To say I'm not happy is an understatement.  :angry:

No performance pack models being made before this date perhaps? Shortage of Santiagos? (far less likely). The Dynaudio and satnav are available across the Golf range, doubt it's either of those.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 May 2013, 10:38
Would have to be PP, but my data shows at least one person with a confirmed BW of 24, and the PP!

I think he is talking crap (the VW man, not matchboy).  With all the data I've gathered I'm really beginning to think it is just random. Problem is there are two factors and either or both could be random.  Its either the actual build planning, or their communication of that to us, or both...

BTW: re Sunroof + 19inch
Someone who asked about this said it had to do with putting the emissions over a threshold and into the next tax band.  If true that would fit with why it affects different countries differently.  To be honest I don't believe the theory about weight.  How much heavier can the 19inch wheels be vs the 18inch ones?  Enough to hit some kind of limit?  I don't think so.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 May 2013, 10:41
Possibly the PP?  Who knows!  We need Bear's analysis of who's got what date compared to what options they have!

If I had to guess I'd say it was the Dynaudio to be honest.  I'm sure that held up my mk 6 order as its not a 'usual' option ie. not many people spec it.  Still, not fooking happy at all.

Ah, I see your reply Bear!  Could it be the Dynaudio then?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 May 2013, 10:47
Possibly the PP?  Who knows!  We need Bear's analysis of who's got what date compared to what options they have!

If I had to guess I'd say it was the Dynaudio to be honest.  I'm sure that held up my mk 6 order as its not a 'usual' option ie. not many people spec it.  Still, not fooking happy at all.

Ah, I see your reply Bear!  Could it be the Dynaudio then?

Nope.  Again, a BW24 GTI has Dynaudio speced.  Your other options are fairly standard on Golfs in general.  I supposed it could be they don't have any 19inch wheels until wk26... no I can't even convince myself, they've already put them on demo cars.

EDIT:
Of course it could be that your guy wasn't wrong, and someone else is in for a nasty surprise this morning as well!  Perhaps even "confirmed build week" isn't reliable!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 28 May 2013, 11:01
I don't think its a shortage of parts, I was told week 24 and have Dynaudio and PP.

Look on Autoscout24.de and all the cars have the options we are looking for already.

It may be that my week 24 will go back also, but the tracker stated build week confirmed 2 weeks ago now.

I still think its possible, its to do with dealer allocation, or the fact that when the dealers came round to putting the orders through after the bank holiday weekend, there was a deludge of orders, and they didn't get put on in date order by VW UK?

Dave

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 May 2013, 11:08
Well I've checked with my dealer, and he also says its been moved to BW28.  He doesn't know why, but he says he'll find out.  I await his reply with baited breath.

As per the other replies, maybe its got nowt to do with the spec then and more to do with the dealer itself ie. their allocation.  In which case there is nothing any of us can do about that.  This sort of makes sense if you look at the demos appearing - it seems there are some up north but I've seen no mention of any demos down here in the South - which makes me think that maybe North of England dealers are getting their allocation before dealers in the South.

Which is also weird as its better down South!  :laugh:  :lipsrsealed:

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 May 2013, 11:09
I still think its possible, its to do with dealer allocation, or the fact that when the dealers came round to putting the orders through after the bank holiday weekend, there was a deludge of orders, and they didn't get put on in date order by VW UK?

I'll check on that then if I can.

EDIT:
I checked on it.  Three of my "confirmed BW" orders were placed early in April, but one was placed late in April (after my own order in fact).  The order numbers are 2317xxxx, 2318xxxx, 2322xxxx, 2323xxxx.  I've confirmed a rough correlation between order date and order number.  Three of the dealers are from the North, the fourth, oddly, doesn't have a dealer...

So those up north getting early builds does fit, though I think we have insufficient data to really make this conclusion at this stage.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 May 2013, 11:13
Would have to be PP, but my data shows at least one person with a confirmed BW of 24, and the PP!

I think he is talking crap (the VW man, not matchboy).  With all the data I've gathered I'm really beginning to think it is just random. Problem is there are two factors and either or both could be random.  Its either the actual build planning, or their communication of that to us, or both...

BTW: re Sunroof + 19inch
Someone who asked about this said it had to do with putting the emissions over a threshold and into the next tax band.  If true that would fit with why it affects different countries differently.  To be honest I don't believe the theory about weight.  How much heavier can the 19inch wheels be vs the 18inch ones?  Enough to hit some kind of limit?  I don't think so.

I do wonder whether you get a variable response from VW UK depending upon who you speak to - whether someone guesses build week by the date you tell them you ordered, or by the order number provided rather than finding out for sure. My enquiries led me to be put on hold for a good 5 mins whilst the lass on the phone found out. Her answers seemed accurate for my dad's car and if i'm on the tracker towards the end of the week would hold true for me too. My dealer on the other hand seems to agree with VW UK on week 26 for me, but thinks my dad's is doing BW27 and not 25.

If you ring up VW UK and someone gives you an answer straight away without putting you on hold to find out then they've probably made an educated guess based on your order number.

As for the 19" wheels/sunroof combi - maybe the sunroof is a bigger contributor to weight than the wheel upgrade? VW have never been able to tell me why a manual GTD is same CO2 rating in 3 or 5 door, but a 5door DSG GTD is a whole 3g CO2 more than the 3 door DSG GTD, putting it into a whole new tax band. Unless they can tune a 5 door manual to be a bit leaner to counteract the CO2 implications for slightly higher weight for 5 door over 3 door I can't see how they would have the same output.

But if a similar situation occurred with the sunroof/19" wheels and someone was prepared to be in a higher tax disc band for the combo then why stop them? Weird.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 May 2013, 11:21
I've seen no mention of any demos down here in the South - which makes me think that maybe North of England dealers are getting their allocation before dealers in the South.

Which is also weird as its better down South!  :laugh:  :lipsrsealed:

Generally a lot more new cars up here in the North East. If you're in a decent job up here you've got more disposable income than someone down south who's saddled with 50-100% higher house prices for essentially the same house. Demos maybe handed out based on expected sales per dealership group.

You definitely see regional patterns - North East dealerships are offering generous p/x but little in the way of discounts compared to others getting 9-12% off down south (dealerships down there have to try harder to get your money?).

I spent the 2nd half of my childhood down Southampton when my parents moved down there. My school mates down there think I must be on megabucks - they expect the North East to be like those Catherine Cookson ITV dramas.  :laugh: They're all driving old cars because they're saddled with £250k+ mortgages.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jsybrian on 28 May 2013, 11:32
Popped into dealers this morning ordered 1st April told week 24 build now cahnged to build week 43 this has been brought froward to week 38 (unconfirmed).Not too worried ordered a Focus ST MK2 a few years ago that was 6 months late oh well.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 May 2013, 11:33
As for the 19" wheels/sunroof combi - maybe the sunroof is a bigger contributor to weight than the wheel upgrade?

Exactly, but in this case, since you can get sunroof + 18inch with no problem, whatever the extra weight the 19inches are over and above the 18inches is (according to VW) enough to make the kerb weight too much?  I call BS!

Not sure it makes any more sense on emissions either, but at least that explains national variations.  Like you say the GTD emissions make no sense either...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 May 2013, 11:40
Maybe it is regional then.  This could be the reason for the differences in Build Weeks!  If that's the case then hey ho, I'd rather live down here and get my car a few weeks later  :laugh: :drool:

Another thing that doesn't make sense to me is this sunroof issue with the 19s - if it adds too much weight then surely that means a car with a sunroof is heavier than one without - how does that stack up with VW's weight figures??  And this will surely mean a car with a sunroof will be slower??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 May 2013, 11:44
Well I could sort my analysis by region and do it that way.

Problem is there are so many ways we could look at this and we don't have much data.  I've had over 40 responses to the online survey thingy but many gave incomplete data.  For example, some who filled it in don't have confirmed BWs, didn't want to give me their full order number (understandable) and didn't give the dealer name (also understandable).  To be honest that doesn't give me much to work on.

That leaves maybe around 20 responses, but they are all different specs ordered at different times to finding a trend is virtually impossible.

I might try anyway.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 May 2013, 11:45
Popped into dealers this morning ordered 1st April told week 24 build now cahnged to build week 43 this has been brought froward to week 38 (unconfirmed).Not too worried ordered a Focus ST MK2 a few years ago that was 6 months late oh well.

I'd rely on VW UK more than what your dealer tells you. especially if customer service puts you on hold for 5 mins and go to speak to the people in the know - the sales division. If you were one of the first in your dealership to order (likely with an april 1st order) and you haven't made any changes to your order since then week 24/25 seems quite feasable. Did you get an order number from your dealership? If the dealer took your deposit and forgot to book your order in with VW UK before they put 5 orders in for other people in the meantime (and hammering their allocation) and you've ended up with a late order number like 2323xxxx I can imagine week 38 not being far off the mark. Not saying that's what likely happened.

If you have your order number you might want to ring VW UK and see what they say.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 28 May 2013, 12:14
I still think its possible, its to do with dealer allocation, or the fact that when the dealers came round to putting the orders through after the bank holiday weekend, there was a deludge of orders, and they didn't get put on in date order by VW UK?

I'll check on that then if I can.

EDIT:
I checked on it.  Three of my "confirmed BW" orders were placed early in April, but one was placed late in April (after my own order in fact).  The order numbers are 2317xxxx, 2318xxxx, 2322xxxx, 2323xxxx.  I've confirmed a rough correlation between order date and order number.  Three of the dealers are from the North, the fourth, oddly, doesn't have a dealer...

So those up north getting early builds does fit, though I think we have insufficient data to really make this conclusion at this stage.

Interesting thing is my order number 2317xxxx, was not the first GTi they had sold, I was the third order, so presumably there will be deliveries before mine.

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 May 2013, 12:18
Interesting thing is my order number 2317xxxx, was not the first GTi they had sold, I was the third order, so presumably there will be deliveries before mine.

WOW :shocked:  You northern boys don't hang around do you?

I'm slightly less worried about twiddling my thumbs while GTI after GTI drives by now and my BW gets put back again and again.  If they're all up north I won't be feeling so jealous!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 May 2013, 12:22
Getting an early order number doesn't necessarily put you at the front of the queue. Someone with 2317xxxx but was 3rd in the line for their dealership (like HA54SYM) could get their car a lot later than someone with 2323xxxx if they were the first order for their dealership - allocation per branch seems to be quite a big deciding factor, more important than purely order number I would guess.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 28 May 2013, 13:00
Think you have to put it in to context also.

How many GTi's have been ordered on here?, how many mk6 GTi's do you see on the road? - Only a few.

How many people will wait until now, to see a demo and then decide to order, can't be that many ordered blind like us.

Then lastly think how many RHD GTi's will they build in a week!

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: MkVIIGTD on 28 May 2013, 13:10
I spoke to VW UK again there now... I ordered on 28th March, confirmed order 4th April,,, order number 2318**** and they have again given me an UNCONFIRMED build week 34!!!  :angry:
Ordered GTD DSG, with few options, but nothing out of the ordinary... don't understand why other guys here have been given BW26-27 with orders fairly similar to mine.
The girl went away and checked for me and she seemed to know what she was talking about. When i asked her why she said the VW may have earlier BW but they havent schduled them yet!
Wish VW would get their act together and sort it out!!  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 May 2013, 13:11

Then lastly think how many RHD GTi's will they build in a week!

Dave

This is an excellent point.  When you think about this in that context I'm surprised we're getting them this year!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 May 2013, 13:13
I spoke to VW UK again there now... I ordered on 28th March, confirmed order 4th April,,, order number 2318**** and they have again given me an UNCONFIRMED build week 34!!!  :angry:
Ordered GTD DSG, with few options, but nothing out of the ordinary... don't understand why other guys here have been given BW26-27 with orders fairly similar to mine.
The girl went away and checked for me and she seemed to know what she was talking about. When i asked her why she said the VW may have earlier BW but they havent schduled them yet!
Wish VW would get their act together and sort it out!!  :cry:

Perhaps your location is a deciding factor? VW might be treating Northern Ireland (and maybe places like channel Islands, Isle of Man etc) differently from mainland UK?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jsybrian on 28 May 2013, 13:17
Order starts 2318 I do trust the dealer know them pretty well they have 3 GTIs on order various specs all builds mid to late weeks 30.Their own demonstrater is I think week 32 they do expect builds to be moved forward as no confirmed build weeks are logged on the VW system .
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sam67GTD on 28 May 2013, 13:30
I spoke to VW UK again there now... I ordered on 28th March, confirmed order 4th April,,, order number 2318**** and they have again given me an UNCONFIRMED build week 34!!!  :angry:
Ordered GTD DSG, with few options, but nothing out of the ordinary... don't understand why other guys here have been given BW26-27 with orders fairly similar to mine.
The girl went away and checked for me and she seemed to know what she was talking about. When i asked her why she said the VW may have earlier BW but they havent schduled them yet!
Wish VW would get their act together and sort it out!!  :cry:

Perhaps your location is a deciding factor? VW might be treating Northern Ireland (and maybe places like channel Islands, Isle of Man etc) differently from mainland UK?

I've ordered a GTD like you from the same dealer and have an unconfirmed build week of 33. Ordered later than you on 9th April.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 28 May 2013, 13:40
In all honesty, as interesting as all this speculation and research is, it won't make my car get built any faster.  I'm almost at a point now where I simply don't care any more!  Until the car is actually being built, build weeks can fluctuate for any number of reasons, so if it really is going to be week 38 for me, so be it.  I'll take that as worst case, and any sooner is a bonus.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 28 May 2013, 13:46
In all honesty, as interesting as all this speculation and research is, it won't make my car get built any faster.  I'm almost at a point now where I simply don't care any more!  Until the car is actually being built, build weeks can fluctuate for any number of reasons, so if it really is going to be week 38 for me, so be it.  I'll take that as worst case, and any sooner is a bonus.

I've started telling people my new car is coming in September, it's helping my mental state  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 28 May 2013, 13:49
I've started telling people my new car is coming in September, it's helping my mental state  :laugh:

Same, being saying September/October - helps that a big part of my job is managing peoples expectations, so the least I can do is manage my own!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 May 2013, 14:11
I spoke to VW UK again there now... I ordered on 28th March, confirmed order 4th April,,, order number 2318**** and they have again given me an UNCONFIRMED build week 34!!!  :angry:
Ordered GTD DSG, with few options, but nothing out of the ordinary... don't understand why other guys here have been given BW26-27 with orders fairly similar to mine.
The girl went away and checked for me and she seemed to know what she was talking about. When i asked her why she said the VW may have earlier BW but they havent schduled them yet!
Wish VW would get their act together and sort it out!!  :cry:

Perhaps your location is a deciding factor? VW might be treating Northern Ireland (and maybe places like channel Islands, Isle of Man etc) differently from mainland UK?

I'm similar.  I've contacted VW to enquire what they can tell me about my order.  Dealer thinks wk37, which was revised from wk36, which was after an initial estimate of around wk30-31...  some similar orders to mine seem to have estimates in the order of wk26-28, but its unclear what change to BW a small difference in spec might make.  My analysis suggests any particular option can result in a low BW, so therefore not cause a delay.  But its far from clear.

I'm ordering from Warwickshire btw.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: MkVIIGTD on 28 May 2013, 14:42
There just seems to be no reason and VW UK cant seem to give me a reason why other cars similar spec ordered around same time have build weeks. So much for there all BW will be allocated on Week 22!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 May 2013, 09:59
So much for there all BW will be allocated on Week 22!!

A massive slice of VW bullsh!t.  According to them everyone who'd ordered early should be given a confirmed BW by week 22 ie. Monday just gone.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 29 May 2013, 10:21
A massive slice of VW bullsh!t.  According to them everyone who'd ordered early should be given a confirmed BW by week 22 ie. Monday just gone.  :rolleyes:

The only thing I was told in relation to week 22 was the switchover to MY14 spec.  Nothing was said around a confirmed BW being given by week 22 (assuming inclusive here).  We are still in week 22 though, so it's entirely possible for that to happen, but I somehow doubt we'll hear much over the next week or two.  Would love to be proven wrong!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 May 2013, 10:33
Guys,

I'm preparing a (hopefully short) list of questions to email to VW to try to confirm/deny some of our theories as to why there is a wide variation in estimated/confirmed build weeks.  Would be really helpful to know if they have ever stated that week22 would result in many of us getting confirmed BWs or if we have just kind of assumed that without them saying it.

Can anyone point me to a statement by VW in the hour or so?  If not I won't include this as one of my questions.

FYI my other questions aim to establish:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 May 2013, 10:41
A massive slice of VW bullsh!t.  According to them everyone who'd ordered early should be given a confirmed BW by week 22 ie. Monday just gone.  :rolleyes:

The only thing I was told in relation to week 22 was the switchover to MY14 spec.  Nothing was said around a confirmed BW being given by week 22 (assuming inclusive here).  We are still in week 22 though, so it's entirely possible for that to happen, but I somehow doubt we'll hear much over the next week or two.  Would love to be proven wrong!

I don't think everyone that ordered early was ever going to be told they would be allocated a firm build week by week 22 (even if VW UK operatives gave that impression). I think that is the point from which we'd start to see ealry UK builds confirmed.

I strongly believe (from the info that Bear has analysed) that your place in a dealership's allocation queue is a big consideration as to when your car will be built. Ordered week 13 but 2 others ordered before you at your supplying dealership then you're probably going to get yours built way after someone ordering week 18 who is first order in at their supplying dealership.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 May 2013, 10:46
Bear, I was told by VW that from BW22 I would be given a confirmed BW.  As of yet I have not.

Additionally, I think the question that needs to be answered is why, with MY2104 cars being built from BW22, are we all having to wait for our cars (for a minimum of a month from this date) to be given a build week, having ordered as soon as the order books opened.  In short, I do not understand why myself (and others) having ordered early, weren't given BW22 slots.  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 May 2013, 10:52
Bear, I was told by VW that from BW22 I would be given a confirmed BW.  As of yet I have not.

Ok, this is good.  When they said that what was your estimated week?

Additionally, I think the question that needs to be answered is why, with MY2104 cars being built from BW22, are we all having to wait for our cars (for a minimum of a month from this date) to be given a build week, having ordered as soon as the order books opened.  In short, I do not understand why myself (and others) having ordered early, weren't given BW22 slots.  :angry:

Yes, I've been wondering that.  I'm not sure if I will ask though.  I see it as secondary to the wider question of 'when will we get info we can trust' and the question of 'why the huge variation in estimates for effectively identical orders'.  If I ask too much or too hard a question I think they would just throw out a canned response so I want to avoid that.  Also I'm not sure there will be an answer of any use to why not BW22.  I suspect the answer would just be something like 'because of factors we're not going to go into' and that wouldn't tell us anything we don't know so it would be a wasted question.

I'll mull it over a bit more though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 May 2013, 10:53
Bear, I was told by VW that from BW22 I would be given a confirmed BW.  As of yet I have not.

Additionally, I think the question that needs to be answered is why, with MY2104 cars being built from BW22, are we all having to wait for our cars (for a minimum of a month from this date) to be given a build week, having ordered as soon as the order books opened.  In short, I do not understand why myself (and others) having ordered early, weren't given BW22 slots.  :angry:

Matchboy: Might be worth asking whether your order is 1st with your supplying dealership. If not then that would add some credibility to my "allocation order" theory. If you are first in line at your dealership and haven't been bumped back by order changes (have you made any?) getting a build week beyond BW28 makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 29 May 2013, 10:54
Bear, I was told by VW that from BW22 I would be given a confirmed BW.  As of yet I have not.

Additionally, I think the question that needs to be answered is why, with MY2104 cars being built from BW22, are we all having to wait for our cars (for a minimum of a month from this date) to be given a build week, having ordered as soon as the order books opened.  In short, I do not understand why myself (and others) having ordered early, weren't given BW22 slots.  :angry:

We need to get consistency here - "by week 22" is very different "from week 22".  Might be pedantic, but the latter can mean any time from now until they actually start building your car.  Agreed it's annoying and I don't understand it either, but I'm sure that in my case, swapping specification a few times can't have helped my cause.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 May 2013, 10:59
We need to get consistency here - "by week 22" is very different "from week 22".  Might be pedantic, but the latter can mean any time from now until they actually start building your car.  Agreed it's annoying and I don't understand it either, but I'm sure that in my case, swapping specification a few times can't have helped my cause.

My dad got his build week notification last Thurs (as did a few others), which was still officially week 21. there's a contradiction. I took it to mean "from BW22". If you are BW26 you'll hear in BW22, BW28 you'll hear in week 24 etc.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: MkVIIGTD on 29 May 2013, 11:02
Bear, I was told by VW that from BW22 I would be given a confirmed BW.  As of yet I have not.

Additionally, I think the question that needs to be answered is why, with MY2104 cars being built from BW22, are we all having to wait for our cars (for a minimum of a month from this date) to be given a build week, having ordered as soon as the order books opened.  In short, I do not understand why myself (and others) having ordered early, weren't given BW22 slots.  :angry:

Matchboy: Might be worth asking whether your order is 1st with your supplying dealership. If not then that would add some credibility to my "allocation order" theory. If you are first in line at your dealership and haven't been bumped back by order changes (have you made any?) getting a build week beyond BW28 makes no sense at all.

Matchboy... i have been assured that i was the first order from my dealer back on 29th March but my unconfirmed BW from VW UK is 34!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 May 2013, 11:05
Matchboy: Might be worth asking whether your order is 1st with your supplying dealership. If not then that would add some credibility to my "allocation order" theory. If you are first in line at your dealership and haven't been bumped back by order changes (have you made any?) getting a build week beyond BW28 makes no sense at all.

I was the first order with my dealership, and they are part of a very large group.  My dealer has confirmed to me that I will be the first GTI (other than the demo) that they receive.  I've not made any changes to my original order.  And I haven't specced a panoramic roof!!  So, how is my car BW28??  Makes me angry just thinking about it!!  :angry:

Bear, when I was told by VW that from BW22 orders will be given a confirmed BW, they couldn't give me even an estimated BW for mine.  Said their systems wouldn't allocated any BWs until 22.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 May 2013, 11:05
Matchboy... i have been assured that i was the first order from my dealer back on 29th March but my unconfirmed BW from VW UK is 34!!

WTF that is outrageous!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 May 2013, 11:07
Matchboy... i have been assured that i was the first order from my dealer back on 29th March but my unconfirmed BW from VW UK is 34!!

MkVIIIGTD: You might be the exception to that (theoretical) rule if you're not being treated the same as mainland UK for dealer allocation/build weeks. I'm sure there's someone here from Jersey who's also an early order placer who faces a long wait like you. Might be a knock on to you in the same way as UK has had to wait a while after Ireland for order allocation scheduling.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 May 2013, 11:12
Matchboy... i have been assured that i was the first order from my dealer back on 29th March but my unconfirmed BW from VW UK is 34!!

MkVIIIGTD: You might be the exception to that (theoretical) rule if you're not being treated the same as mainland UK for dealer allocation/build weeks. I'm sure there's someone here from Jersey who's also an early order placer who faces a long wait like you. Might be a knock on to you in the same way as UK has had to wait a while after Ireland for order allocation scheduling.

I live in Hertforshire, there shouldn't be any knock on effects lol  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 May 2013, 11:15
Matchboy... i have been assured that i was the first order from my dealer back on 29th March but my unconfirmed BW from VW UK is 34!!

This is exactly what I want to try to get some clarity on.  As far as I am aware MkVIIGTD made the first order anywhere in the UK.  Ok, I'm sure there were others but his must be very high up in the grand scheme of things.  So why is he not BW22?  Or why not BW26 like many others are?  Why BW34?

To my mind this could mean one of two things:

I'm trying to understand what information can be trusted/what the process is, not what the specific results are.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 29 May 2013, 11:39
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

Hi Guys,

I sent an email to my dealer on Friday requesting an update on delivery.

Anyway, having being orginally given a week 33 build, I am now told it has been brought forward to week 27, however they stressed it cannot be confirmed until probably week 22. Roll on the next two weeks !!!

I hope for once that this is right and all orders have been moved forward now VW have pulled themselves together.

Just had an email from my dealer who tells me my gtd is now confirmed for a week 26 build !!!
Not too sure if its on the tracker yet, but very much doubt
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 May 2013, 12:10
Just had an email from my dealer who tells me my gtd is now confirmed for a week 26 build !!!
Not too sure if its on the tracker yet, but very much doubt
.

If you get week 26 (as I have been told for my GTD), i'd expect to see a tracker change to "build status confirmed" by the end of the week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 29 May 2013, 12:18
Ordered my GTI on 3rd May from Vindis St Ives Cambs. Just been given provisional BW38, dealer did say this would change but did not say in which direction, better not be any longer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 29 May 2013, 12:23
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

Hi Guys,

I sent an email to my dealer on Friday requesting an update on delivery.

Anyway, having being orginally given a week 33 build, I am now told it has been brought forward to week 27, however they stressed it cannot be confirmed until probably week 22. Roll on the next two weeks !!!

I hope for once that this is right and all orders have been moved forward now VW have pulled themselves together.

Just had an email from my dealer who tells me my gtd is now confirmed for a week 26 build !!!
Not too sure if its on the tracker yet, but very much doubt

Hope so, my current build week for my GTD stands at 37!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 May 2013, 12:23
Ordered my GTI on 3rd May from Vindis St Ives Cambs. Just been given provisional BW38, dealer did say this would change but did not say in which direction, better not be any longer.

Ha, you're just up the road from me!  I've been given provisional wk37 (different dealer though) wonder which of us will be first to get ours?  :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 29 May 2013, 12:37
Ordered my GTI on 3rd May from Vindis St Ives Cambs. Just been given provisional BW38, dealer did say this would change but did not say in which direction, better not be any longer.

Ha, you're just up the road from me!  I've been given provisional wk37 (different dealer though) wonder which of us will be first to get ours?  :tongue:

Yes noticed that, think you must work near the science park if you can see Vindis Cambridge. Did ask the St Ives branch if they had a demonstrator yet but no so still have not seen one in the flesh.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 May 2013, 12:40
Ordered my GTI on 3rd May from Vindis St Ives Cambs. Just been given provisional BW38, dealer did say this would change but did not say in which direction, better not be any longer.

Ha, you're just up the road from me!  I've been given provisional wk37 (different dealer though) wonder which of us will be first to get ours?  :tongue:

Yes noticed that, think you must work near the science park if you can see Vindis Cambridge. Did ask the St Ives branch if they had a demonstrator yet but no so still have not seen one in the flesh.

Yep, I'm on the Science Park.

In other news:
I just send VW a long (unfortunately) email with some very specific questions designed to settle some of the confusion we're having, particularly over the wide range of BWs people are being told with no obvious reason what causes a longer wait or even if the information can be considered reliable.

If they respond I'll post here together with my list of questions.  I've asked if they can be as frank as possible as I hate it when companies just give a canned or vague answer or disclaimer and don't understand why that is the single worst thing they can do from the customer's perspective!  Lets see if they take my point or not...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 29 May 2013, 13:10
Just been told bw27 by VW UK but subject to change
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 29 May 2013, 13:18
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

Hi Guys,

I sent an email to my dealer on Friday requesting an update on delivery.

Anyway, having being orginally given a week 33 build, I am now told it has been brought forward to week 27, however they stressed it cannot be confirmed until probably week 22. Roll on the next two weeks !!!

I hope for once that this is right and all orders have been moved forward now VW have pulled themselves together.

Just had an email from my dealer who tells me my gtd is now confirmed for a week 26 build !!!
Not too sure if its on the tracker yet, but very much doubt

You ordered yours the same day as mine and im week 34-36. Having driven the gti demonstrator last night I cant wait until september for delivery!!!!!!!!!!!! Im wondering if some orders are parked at week 34 on the system but will change when uk production gets into full swing.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 May 2013, 13:35
So, this is interesting.  Asked my dealer when their demo is due.  He says he does not know, and hasn't had any information.  This backs up the issue with the BWs - if the dealer itself hasn't even been told when they are getting a demo (and thus getting it later than other dealers), then this implies that the build time on their allocation for customer orders will be later than other dealers too.

I think this is the issue, in which case there is fook all I can do about it.  It seems its just bad luck based on the dealer itself.  And obviously this is not information that VW would want the early buyers to know, otherwise you would order from some and not others.

Annoying, but I feel at least there is some explanation and its not just random shizzle going on in the VW order system computer!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 30 May 2013, 08:26
Just had an update from my dealer, I was originally build week 28, now I have been put back to 35.

Very SAD!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 08:43
Just had an update from my dealer, I was originally build week 28, now I have been put back to 35.

Very SAD!!!

Did the dealer tell you what the 7 weeks delay is down to? Dealer made an optimistic guess on BW for your order which has proven to be way off? Did you change your order at all?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 30 May 2013, 09:13
He does not know why and I have asked him, he is going to try and find out.

I did change the specification quite a bit, but nothing Drastic, car started out as:

GTI Performance (Manual)
Pearl Black
Dynaudio
Winter Pack

To:

GTI Performance (Manual)
Oryx White
Dynaudio
Park assist.

Could be the park assist?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 09:26
More likely the Oryx white. I would guess that they make very few of these (not even 1% of Golf output) so probably no dedicated paint booth for that colour which would mean doing a campaign of them all together, and having a full cleandown before and after the campaign. Takes a lot of time to do the cleandowns when compared to paint time per unit, so they'll be collecting orders until they have enough Oryx whites to do together.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 30 May 2013, 09:34
I agree with monkeyhanger, its the Oryx white for sure.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 30 May 2013, 11:56
Pants - now I regret getting the Oryx White, if that is the reason.  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 30 May 2013, 12:15
Just had an email to be told the order has moved from week 28 to week 34! WTF is going on at VW, he says its due to my choices! I'm waiting a call back now!! :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 12:15
Pants - now I regret getting the Oryx White, if that is the reason.  :cry:

I think it'll be the paint. Those special campaigns have to be well planned. Used to work at the Ford Transit Van plant in Southampton, and one of the paint booths was for specialist paint campaigns like when BT or Dynorod placed their annual order for vans. Obviously the VW Wolfsburg plant (assuming that's where all our Golfs will be coming from) is on a bigger scale, but even so - the ordering of Oryx White will be a relatively rare event - too rare to keep a dedicated paint booth open for that particular colour.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 12:16
Just had an email to be told the order has moved from week 28 to week 34! WTF is going on at VW, he says its due to my choices! I'm waiting a call back now!! :cry: :cry:

What are your choices BTW?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 12:20
When there was all the talk of tracker "stalking", I came across a Passat being made for Pulman Sunderland supply (same dealer as me), just a few digits out from my order. It took 13 days to get from the day it moved to "in transit" to "your car has arrived". Looks like we'll get our cars within 2 weeks of build completion judging by that.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 30 May 2013, 12:21
Just had an email to be told the order has moved from week 28 to week 34! WTF is going on at VW, he says its due to my choices! I'm waiting a call back now!! :cry: :cry:

While I am gutted for you, at least I feel less alone now.  Did your dealer also include a finalised order document with the email he sent you?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 May 2013, 13:28
Just got off the phone with my dealer, mine has gone from wk36 to wk39 unconfirmed now?? My car was the second GTI to be ordered by that dealership. :angry: he's had one order for someone called gordon confirmed as bw27.

Oh well... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 May 2013, 13:34
Just got off the phone with my dealer, mine has gone from wk36 to wk39 unconfirmed now?? My car was the second GTI to be ordered by that dealership. :angry: he's had one order for someone called gordon confirmed as bw27.

Oh well... :rolleyes:

Blimey, seems like things are getting worse, not better.  I know you didn't want it until September, but the assumption was September this year, not next year!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 30 May 2013, 13:37
Just got off the phone with my dealer, mine has gone from wk36 to wk39 unconfirmed now?? My car was the second GTI to be ordered by that dealership. :angry: he's had one order for someone called gordon confirmed as bw27.

Oh well... :rolleyes:

As many have said before you have to think it's something to do with the options. I see you have chosen DSG and the pano roof. I suspect this is why your bw is being delayed
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mjh_056 on 30 May 2013, 13:38
Thought they would all be upping production given the big pay rise they just got over there, so at least cars will be made by a happy workforce ;)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 30 May 2013, 13:51
OMG!!!! Looks like more & more are getting pushed back now rather than being brought forward.... Does not bode well.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 30 May 2013, 13:57
I've asked for the colour of mine to be changed to Carbon, bet that puts it back another 8 weeks.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 May 2013, 14:42
Dsg and pano roof can't be holding orders up as some people on here have early build weeks with those options selected along with acc. I just think that vw have made an absolute balls up of everything. why say June delivery when they had no intention of ever meeting that deadline. I think UK customers are being well and truly shafted and have been told a complete pack of lies since day 1.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 30 May 2013, 15:05
More likely the Oryx white. I would guess that they make very few of these (not even 1% of Golf output) so probably no dedicated paint booth for that colour which would mean doing a campaign of them all together, and having a full cleandown before and after the campaign. Takes a lot of time to do the cleandowns when compared to paint time per unit, so they'll be collecting orders until they have enough Oryx whites to do together.

I hope you are very much mistaken monkeyhanger. I had a confirmed bw26 yesterday from my dealer for my gtd in oryx white
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 30 May 2013, 15:08
More likely the Oryx white. I would guess that they make very few of these (not even 1% of Golf output) so probably no dedicated paint booth for that colour which would mean doing a campaign of them all together, and having a full cleandown before and after the campaign. Takes a lot of time to do the cleandowns when compared to paint time per unit, so they'll be collecting orders until they have enough Oryx whites to do together.

I hope you are very much mistaken monkeyhanger. I had a confirmed bw26 yesterday from my dealer for my gtd in oryx white

Maybe worth checking if you still have that build week today? Seems a very early build week for a GTD.  None of the others are that early.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 30 May 2013, 15:23
More likely the Oryx white. I would guess that they make very few of these (not even 1% of Golf output) so probably no dedicated paint booth for that colour which would mean doing a campaign of them all together, and having a full cleandown before and after the campaign. Takes a lot of time to do the cleandowns when compared to paint time per unit, so they'll be collecting orders until they have enough Oryx whites to do together.

I hope you are very much mistaken monkeyhanger. I had a confirmed bw26 yesterday from my dealer for my gtd in oryx white

Maybe worth checking if you still have that build week today? Seems a very early build week for a GTD.  None of the others are that early.

I was originally unconfirmed wk33, then unconfirmed wk27, now confirmed wk26 as of yesterday.
However the online tracker has yet to change to confirmed bw. I will contact the dealer again once this happens.
Even though we've all being given unreliable info so far, as my dealer said we would all along until confirmed info in wk22, I see no reason for them to give me a confirmed wk26 if they knew different. But then again !!!

I once again wait for the next bit a info from my dealer in the hope they do not now do a u-turn an tell me wk44 etc !!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dervy on 30 May 2013, 16:01
I ordered my GTD on 3rd April and last week I was sent a copy of the VW order records, from my dealer, that showed that I had moved from build week 36 to week 25. The tracker has shown "build week confirmed" since last week. Fingers crossed that there are no further changes - unless it moves to an earlier date!!!!!

__________________________________________________________________________________________

On order:
GTD, DSG, 5 door, pure white, vienna leather, panoramic roof, discover nav, dynaudio.

Current car:
59 GTD, DSG, 5 door, pearl black, vienna leather, 18" Vancouver wheels, RNS510 nav.




Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Andy_cs on 30 May 2013, 16:34
More likely the Oryx white. I would guess that they make very few of these (not even 1% of Golf output) so probably no dedicated paint booth for that colour which would mean doing a campaign of them all together, and having a full cleandown before and after the campaign. Takes a lot of time to do the cleandowns when compared to paint time per unit, so they'll be collecting orders until they have enough Oryx whites to do together.

I hope you are very much mistaken monkeyhanger. I had a confirmed bw26 yesterday from my dealer for my gtd in oryx white

Maybe worth checking if you still have that build week today? Seems a very early build week for a GTD.  None of the others are that early.

I was originally unconfirmed wk33, then unconfirmed wk27, now confirmed wk26 as of yesterday.
However the online tracker has yet to change to confirmed bw. I will contact the dealer again once this happens.
Even though we've all being given unreliable info so far, as my dealer said we would all along until confirmed info in wk22, I see no reason for them to give me a confirmed wk26 if they knew different. But then again !!!

I once again wait for the next bit a info from my dealer in the hope they do not now do a u-turn an tell me wk44 etc !!!

Hi rick2b, I see you're in West Yorks, if you don't mind which dealer? I too am West Yorks and currently have unconfirmed BW36 and I am hoping this comes forward
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 May 2013, 16:55
I ordered my GTD on 3rd April and last week I was sent a copy of the VW order records, from my dealer, that showed that I had moved from build week 36 to week 25. The tracker has shown "build week confirmed" since last week. Fingers crossed that there are no further changes - unless it moves to an earlier date!!!!!

__________________________________________________________________________________________

On order:
GTD, DSG, 5 door, pure white, vienna leather, panoramic roof, discover nav, dynaudio.

Current car:
59 GTD, DSG, 5 door, pearl black, vienna leather, 18" Vancouver wheels, RNS510 nav.
problem with week 25 is its usually a 4 week lead time before confirmed build which puts you at week 21. my14 changes were wk22 so does that mean your car doesn't have the my14 changes? the earliest should be wk26 confirmed. someone correct me if I've looked at this the wrong way.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 19:08
More likely the Oryx white. I would guess that they make very few of these (not even 1% of Golf output) so probably no dedicated paint booth for that colour which would mean doing a campaign of them all together, and having a full cleandown before and after the campaign. Takes a lot of time to do the cleandowns when compared to paint time per unit, so they'll be collecting orders until they have enough Oryx whites to do together.

I hope you are very much mistaken monkeyhanger. I had a confirmed bw26 yesterday from my dealer for my gtd in oryx white

Did you order early, with no order changes made? Pauliem changed his colour from DBP - maybe he missed the campaign yours is on if my explanation is what happens with Oryx White cars.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 19:11
problem with week 25 is its usually a 4 week lead time before confirmed build which puts you at week 21. my14 changes were wk22 so does that mean your car doesn't have the my14 changes? the earliest should be wk26 confirmed. someone correct me if I've looked at this the wrong way.

The MY14 changes are for cars built BW22 and onwards, whether they're scheduled before then or not. That's my understanding of the situation. If so then there should be no possibility of a UK customer pot GTI/GTD built without colour MFD. The current demos are a different story, unless they were odered with colour MFD then they'll have the usual monochrome version (as seen on a few dealer pics of demos posted here recently, at least one has a mono MFD).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: MkVIIGTD on 30 May 2013, 19:19
I have just had a chat with my dealer this evening, he tells me he has spoken to VW UK and they have told him that no GTD's have got confirmed build dates yet!!
I really don't know what or who to believe!! Could anyone who has confirmed build week showing in their online tracker maybe screen shot it and send me it, so I can show to my dealer?
He also assures me that Northern Ireland orders are treated no different in the queue than UK mainland orders.

The plot thickens lol  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 May 2013, 19:38
To be honest I don't think VW UK know an ars* from an elbow, dealers are going from what they are told by either a computer terminal or VW UK even though I was told today that dealers can speak to dealer orders at VW direct. I'm not the most patient of people at the best of times but this is just pi**ing me off big style. I wish I'd never gone to the dealer and ordered now and if I'd known then what I know now I wouldn't have ordered a brand new car. this fiasco has put me off buying brand new forever and VW have ruined the entire new car buying experience.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 30 May 2013, 19:48
More likely the Oryx white. I would guess that they make very few of these (not even 1% of Golf output) so probably no dedicated paint booth for that colour which would mean doing a campaign of them all together, and having a full cleandown before and after the campaign. Takes a lot of time to do the cleandowns when compared to paint time per unit, so they'll be collecting orders until they have enough Oryx whites to do together.

I hope you are very much mistaken monkeyhanger. I had a confirmed bw26 yesterday from my dealer for my gtd in oryx white

Did you order early, with no order changes made? Pauliem changed his colour from DBP - maybe he missed the campaign yours is on if my explanation is what happens with Oryx White cars.

Ordered first week in April.
Changed colour from dbp to oryx white about 2 weeks later
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 20:19
Rick2b: Oh well, you had a colour change and still have a far earlier dae. Trying to apply logic to everyone's situations when maybe there isn't any. :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 20:24
To be honest I don't think VW UK know an ars* from an elbow, dealers are going from what they are told by either a computer terminal or VW UK even though I was told today that dealers can speak to dealer orders at VW direct. I'm not the most patient of people at the best of times but this is just pi**ing me off big style. I wish I'd never gone to the dealer and ordered now and if I'd known then what I know now I wouldn't have ordered a brand new car. this fiasco has put me off buying brand new forever and VW have ruined the entire new car buying experience.

It'll be worth it, it has to be! :undecided:

Anyway, the plot thickens with my dad's car. He saw a DBP demo GTI at his local dealership (one of the "Peter Coopers", either Shirley or Southampton I think, and he's decided that he doesn't want DBP, he definitely wants TR (his current car is a TR). So I will have to get onto Pulman tomorrow for them to find out whether his TR order is actually a TR (as per accepted order form PDF) or whether the "track my order" info that shows it as a DBP is correct. I think he'll be cancelling the order and making them reorder if it actually is a DBP scheduled for build and it is definitely too late to change the order. :shocked:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 May 2013, 21:05
I bet and hope it's just the tracker wrong. it just takes the shine off something that was exciting on 2nd April when I ordered it. expecting delivery late June or early July was just about ok but now September delivery has just tarnished the whole new car buying experience.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dervy on 30 May 2013, 21:40
problem with week 25 is its usually a 4 week lead time before confirmed build which puts you at week 21. my14 changes were wk22 so does that mean your car doesn't have the my14 changes? the earliest should be wk26 confirmed. someone correct me if I've looked at this the wrong way.

The MY14 changes are for cars built BW22 and onwards, whether they're scheduled before then or not. That's my understanding of the situation. If so then there should be no possibility of a UK customer pot GTI/GTD built without colour MFD. The current demos are a different story, unless they were odered with colour MFD then they'll have the usual monochrome version (as seen on a few dealer pics of demos posted here recently, at least one has a mono MFD).
I have been advised that i can expect a colour MFD and my understanding is that the build week is 4 weeks after the tracking system shows "build week confirmed, which has shown on mine since last week. As I have said, the order page shown to me by my dealer shows a confirmed B/W of 25. Having said that, I am not convinced the car will arrive 4 weeks later as suggested by the VW tracker.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 May 2013, 23:11
I bet and hope it's just the tracker wrong. it just takes the shine off something that was exciting on 2nd April when I ordered it. expecting delivery late June or early July was just about ok but now September delivery has just tarnished the whole new car buying experience.

Tbf a six month wait is nothing unusual for a GTI, i waited 6 months for my mk6, i think we're getting a little overly anxious due to the amount of poor information flying about! Sometimes not knowing is better and getting annoyed will just spoil it, i posted earlier that my build week is currently 39 but there is nothing i can do about it so why worry?

It'll all be worth it in the end! It was with my mk6.  :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 May 2013, 23:39
I bet and hope it's just the tracker wrong. it just takes the shine off something that was exciting on 2nd April when I ordered it. expecting delivery late June or early July was just about ok but now September delivery has just tarnished the whole new car buying experience.

Tbf a six month wait is nothing unusual for a GTI, i waited 6 months for my mk6, i think we're getting a little overly anxious due to the amount of poor information flying about! Sometimes not knowing is better and getting annoyed will just spoil it, i posted earlier that my build week is currently 39 but there is nothing i can do about it so why worry?

It'll all be worth it in the end! It was with my mk6.  :tongue:

The only annoying thing jimble is that at no point when I sat and handed over a deposit was September mentioned for possible delivery. it was always late June or early July. knowing this up front would have lowered the expectation and excitement to a sensible level.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 May 2013, 23:42
I bet and hope it's just the tracker wrong. it just takes the shine off something that was exciting on 2nd April when I ordered it. expecting delivery late June or early July was just about ok but now September delivery has just tarnished the whole new car buying experience.

Tbf a six month wait is nothing unusual for a GTI, i waited 6 months for my mk6, i think we're getting a little overly anxious due to the amount of poor information flying about! Sometimes not knowing is better and getting annoyed will just spoil it, i posted earlier that my build week is currently 39 but there is nothing i can do about it so why worry?

It'll all be worth it in the end! It was with my mk6.  :P

The only annoying thing jimble is that at no point when I sat and handed over a deposit was September mentioned for possible delivery. it was always late June or early July. knowing this up front would have lowered the expectation and excitement to a sensible level.


It could still,be a july delivery who knows? Don't let it get you down mate.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 May 2013, 23:45
I hate waiting for things and I'm very impatient at the best of times  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 00:34
I think I'm gonna call back to VW with some of the questions being raised here....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 07:35
 Bill: I'm going to get to the bottom of the order confirmation/build tracker discrepancy for colour on my Dad's car today now he's decided he definitely wants Tornado Red over Deep Black Pearl.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 31 May 2013, 08:24
ask about allocation too. I've got a feeling Durham have pushed my order back to suit themselves.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 08:31
mcmaddy: Aye, will do. Allocation questions probably depend on whether Sundeland and Durham pool their allocations or have separate ones per branch. I'll give Mick a ring about 10ish.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 31 May 2013, 08:39
I think I'm gonna call back to VW with some of the questions being raised here....

Are you going to call your dealership or some other VW customer service line? If so, what is the number, might give them a call myself.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 31 May 2013, 09:01
according to VW customer services you're better off ringing your dealership as they can then contact VW sales where the general public can't.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 31 May 2013, 09:06
according to VW customer services you're better off ringing your dealership as they can then contact VW sales where the general public can't.

That's balls, everytime I've called VW customer support they've had to go off and talk to sales themselves.  If you call your dealer you know as well as I do they won't follow it up as its not a priority to them (ok, I'm generalising but most are like this).

The best place for contact is twitter, then they'll ask you to email their twitter team.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 09:08
according to VW customer services you're better off ringing your dealership as they can then contact VW sales where the general public can't.

When I rang VW customer services they put me on hold while they spoke to VW sales, the day before Mick rang me up with a slightly different story about my dad's build week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 09:09
Between them the truth must be out there somewhere.  :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 31 May 2013, 09:13
I wonder if they'd do something if people threatened to cancel every order they had!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 09:24
I wonder if they'd do something if people threatened to cancel every order they had!

They can sell all of these cars at the drop of a hat and they know it, unfortunately. It will be interesting to see if they are prepared to do a deal for me with my dad's DSG GTD if it is actually DBP (and therefore unsuitable for my dad) and it is too late to change now it has gone into scheduled build date allocation. If they (VW UK) are unwilling to do a deal on it (let me have it for my manual price) to preserve the sale and are prepared to let it go to general stock then that says to me they're confident they'll get all their money for it.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 09:46
according to VW customer services you're better off ringing your dealership as they can then contact VW sales where the general public can't.

That's balls, everytime I've called VW customer support they've had to go off and talk to sales themselves.  If you call your dealer you know as well as I do they won't follow it up as its not a priority to them (ok, I'm generalising but most are like this).

The best place for contact is twitter, then they'll ask you to email their twitter team.

This.  For whatever reason information from the dealers is super unreliable it seems.  Responses range from giving estimated BWs from 24-43 with no explanation why there is a difference, stating you can't have a BW, that no GTD is to be built before 32, that they have no idea why delays, that its the sunroof, no its the DSG, you'll get them July, no August, no October if you are lucky... etcetera and so on and so forth.

Not saying the twitter method is better so far, but it does seem a lot more consistent.  Also they are an actual customer service team, whereas the dealers are essentially just a sales team who have already made a sale... its a lot more work for them to start investigating these issues.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 31 May 2013, 09:53
whereas the dealers are essentially just a sales team who have already made a sale... its a lot more work for them to start investigating these issues.

This is a great point.  The dealers, in the main, don't give a t0ss as its irrelevant to them when your car turns up as they've done their bit.  Not all of them granted, but most.

As an aside, I've seen 3 dealers over the last few months - my one knew about the car, and had the knowledge I did - which is what you want.  The other two were pathetic, I knew much more than them.  So, the point being why bother going through someone who doesn't even know the details about the car they are selling - if they can't get that right then they won't be any good at aftersales either.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 10:00
whereas the dealers are essentially just a sales team who have already made a sale... its a lot more work for them to start investigating these issues.

This is a great point.  The dealers, in the main, don't give a t0ss as its irrelevant to them when your car turns up as they've done their bit.  Not all of them granted, but most.

As an aside, I've seen 3 dealers over the last few months - my one knew about the car, and had the knowledge I did - which is what you want.  The other two were pathetic, I knew much more than them.  So, the point being why bother going through someone who doesn't even know the details about the car they are selling - if they can't get that right then they won't be any good at aftersales either.

Even if they are the best dealer and really want to help you I think it is unlikely they have cultivated the same contacts at VW as the service team have, they won't be having meetings, they won't have the same strength because they'll only be enquiring about a single car instead of representing the entire customer base, they may not even have the time because their bosses will want them on that forecourt not sitting in the office on the phone to Wolfsburg all day about an order they've already secured (or think they have).

I also agree that they often know a LOT less then we do about the GTI/GTD.  I suspect that is because we spend a lot of time finding out details about everything.  They need to sell cars.  They might sell one GTI (without effort because of the badge), but to make money they need to shift X many Polos and Y many Golfs a month.  Those are the cars they will be spending their time knowing inside out.

Well, that's my guess.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 31 May 2013, 10:12
I agree to an extent.  However, I still think if you are selling a £30k car you should know as much as you can about it.  My dealer had been on forums etc and was clued up.  The other two were so p!ss poor I can't explain to you how shocked I was.  Maybe they do assume that a GTI/GTD buyer will have done his research like you say, so they don't have to.  But that's not how I would sell a car - if I hadn't ordered all ready I would not have ordered from them.  It was a much more enjoyable process ordering the car while discussing the options with someone who knew what he was talking about.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 31 May 2013, 10:17
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

Hi Guys,

I sent an email to my dealer on Friday requesting an update on delivery.

Anyway, having being orginally given a week 33 build, I am now told it has been brought forward to week 27, however they stressed it cannot be confirmed until probably week 22. Roll on the next two weeks !!!

I hope for once that this is right and all orders have been moved forward now VW have pulled themselves together.

Just had an email from my dealer who tells me my gtd is now confirmed for a week 26 build !!!
Not too sure if its on the tracker yet, but very much doubt

hmmm

VW online tracker has this morning changed to build week confirmed !!!

I will post a screen image of this when I have learned how to do so
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 10:24
hmmm

VW online tracker has this morning changed to build week confirmed !!!
:grin: :grin: :grin:

Checking mine now...

"processing"

DAMMIT! :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 31 May 2013, 10:30
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

Hi Guys,

I sent an email to my dealer on Friday requesting an update on delivery.

Anyway, having being orginally given a week 33 build, I am now told it has been brought forward to week 27, however they stressed it cannot be confirmed until probably week 22. Roll on the next two weeks !!!

I hope for once that this is right and all orders have been moved forward now VW have pulled themselves together.

Just had an email from my dealer who tells me my gtd is now confirmed for a week 26 build !!!
Not too sure if its on the tracker yet, but very much doubt

hmmm

VW online tracker has this morning changed to build week confirmed !!!

You ordered yours the day after mine so will be very interesting to see what happens.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 10:32
No change in mine yet and it''s supposed to be BW26 according to VW UK sales.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 11:11
The plot thickens… Just spoken with my dealer and the mistake with my dad’s car was made at the dealership’s admin, with them mis-interpreting an email from my salesman.

When I requested to change mine from DBP to TR and to add the 5 year warranty onto my dad’s (but no other changes to his TR 5DR DSG GTD), what actually happened was admin changed his to DBP (so both of our cars were DBP at that point) and added the 5 year warranty onto mine. This mistake was discovered by the salesman a few days later when he got the revised paperwork back and checked it over. So then he got them to transfer the 5 year warranty to my dad’s car and then tried to change them both back to TR. My order accepted the change, but my dad’s was locked out to change because it had gone to “build week confirmed” status. VW UK could not change it.
So there is a Black DSG 5 door GTD with no extras going spare on the VW system getting built in BW25 if anyone wants to jump the queue (assuming it hasn’t already been snapped up) Order number 23181819. I don’t think it is going to Pulmans, it will just be grabbable on the “spare cars” system for any dealership to grab.
The situation with the mix-up was conveyed to VW UK and they have made a “special” build allocation for my dad at the spec he wants that seems to have avoided going to the back of the queue and will be built a few weeks after mine (no tracking number available for that).

This would explain why the dealer was saying the build week for my dad’s was a few weeks behind mine, but VW UK were saying my dad’s was a week in front of mine (using the black car’s tracking number which is no longer my dad’s car). I’m amazed that VW are prepared to allow a “special” build to be snuck in for a mistake that is the dealership’s and not their own.

I did ask why my BW26 car still was not on the tracker as "build week confirmed" now it was within 4 weeks of being built. He said to expect the change by the end of next week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 31 May 2013, 11:18
Ok, the plot thickens.  Chap just phoned my up from the VW Executive Office, regarding my twitter query and subsequent email.  Had a long conversation.  I would imagine they've passed this up to this chap as I just won't go away pestering them.  :grin:

He started off by telling me that, according to the factory, NO orders have been given confirmed build weeks as yet.  When I queried this given the information that you chaps have posted on here he started to get all ar7ey and basically said everyone was lying.  I told him I find that very hard to believe, yet he stuck by his guns and reiterated that per the factory there have been no confirmed builds for any GTI's in the UK.  Confused?  I am.

I then explained to him that all this messing around with build weeks was ridiculous, and why couldn't I be given a definitive build week based on the information given to me over the last few months by my dealer, VW UK Customer Services and the Twitter UK VW - and given my order was early April.  He tried to blame the dealer, eg. they don't manage expectations, give out false information regarding dates.  I wasn't having that, and pointed out that it was VW UK that gave me the information regarding BW22 and also my "highly unlikely to move" BW of 26 - and not the dealer, who has been pretty good to be fair.  He had no answer for this other than at the time the information I would have been told was coming direct from the factory.

I explained to him that I couldn't understand this given its VW - started to get slightly miffed at one point and slipped a "p!ss poor" into the conversation.  Calmed down a bit, then continued.....in a nutshell he basically said its down to production in Germany and that they cannot control what is going on over there.

However, he did say he would be dealing with this personally and would be having a chat with the factory - and would call me back on Wednesday next week.  He agreed that all this messing around was not on from a customer service point of view, and conceeded that unfortunately there is a massive difference between what the marketing/sales/UK Customer Services guys tell us and what is ACTUALLY being build in Germany.

So all in all, I suppose I'm pleased that I have someone dealing with this for me, but on the other hand I feel slightly confused given I have still no BW, and also quite despondent that it seems that it really doesn't matter what we do/say/complain that the factory will do what they want, when they want - and b0llocks to the customer.

The saga continues....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 11:29
Matchbox: He's probably sent a memo to Wolfsburg to ensure that they stick a kipper behind your dashboard when they build your car.   :rolleyes:

Too many layers in the chain to deal with, lots of opportunity for crossed wires and misinformation.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 31 May 2013, 11:34
Matchbox: He's probably sent a memo to Wolfsburg to ensure that they stick a kipper behind your dashboard when they build your car.   :rolleyes:

Too many layers in the chain to deal with, lots of opportunity for crossed wires and misinformation.

Ha!  No doubt!  Basically, its all a mess and its pot luck when you get your car or not.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 11:38
The saga continues....

Possible comment for next time you talk to him:

We're not so much upset by the long waiting times, that's just life, the problem is that we actually have no clue what the waiting times are because everyone is told something different with different or no explanations offered.

It really should be very very easy for them to keep us happy.  All they gotta do is tell us all the consistent truth.  That should consist firstly of accurate information about the factory, so at this stage it seems that should be "no confirmed BWs for UK yet, expect to start having them from week XX" and secondly an estimate of how long the wait should be for individual orders with a clear qualifier of how accurate it is.

Now the second part is obviously harder, but really should not be that hard.  They must know how many build slots for UK cars they have per day.  They must know how many total UK orders they have.  They must have a rough idea (from historic data) of if there are too many orders of something, say DSG, such that those orders can expect another Y many weeks wait.  All this adds up to an estimate.  Historic accuracy of these estimates to the eventual delivery adds up to a +/- error.

So we should each be getting something like this:

"There are no confirmed BWs from Wolfsburg for the UK yet, we expect to start having them from week 24 and will update you as yours is confirmed.  Your order, placed on 1st May, is estimated to be built in week 30 but this estimate may be off by 2 weeks either side based on past orders.  Demand for DSG is currently high so may require an estimated additional week."

Now why the hell can't they get their act together and do that?  Or does the fact that they seem not able to imply that actually they don't know how many build slots they have... or worse, they don't know how many orders they have!?!?!?!

EDIT:
Feel free to direct him to me and I'll go over to VWUK and set their system up for them.  I want my GTI for free in return. :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 31 May 2013, 11:47
Bear, he sort of answered the first part of your question - by basically saying that the factory do what they want and do not always inform the UK team.  So when they tell us something it is what they've been told - but it could then get changed the next day by the factory who don't tell them everytime they make a change.  Seems a bit strange to me.

As for the second part, who knows.  Yes, it should be simple!  I forgot to put originally that he tried to fob me off with a BW of 28 by saying that there are other orders in the UK to consider.  What, 6 weeks of orders before mine?  I don't think so!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 11:56
Bear, he sort of answered the first part of your question - by basically saying that the factory do what they want and do not always inform the UK team.  So when they tell us something it is what they've been told - but it could then get changed the next day by the factory who don't tell them everytime they make a change.  Seems a bit strange to me.

Thats an explanation but hardly an excuse.  Have they heard of networked computer systems in Germany?  They don't even have to update them more than once a week or once a fortnight.  Just tag a qualifier on the end of the statement "Information correct as of XX/XX/XXXX, next update in Y days."  Sounds like what he is saying is that "No one has any idea when any of you can expect your cars because the guys who know change their mind every now and then and never tell anyone else that they have done."  That is a systems failure.  They should have this as a very high priority on whatever corrective action process VWUK operate (because its impacting many customers and future business should automatically be at the top).  I'm assuming they operate one of course, dunno what to say if they don't.

To be honest what I think is going on here is a chronic lack of giving a damn about telling the customer anything.  As I said before, if they wanted to they could have a system of the kind I outlined up and running very easily.  These people seem to think that what we're upset about is that we can't have our toys now and we're going to scream and roll on the floor until we get them.  Why can they not understand that we are grown ups who just want to know the truth, not be kept in the dark because they are afraid we might be disappointed by the truth!

As for the second part, who knows.  Yes, it should be simple!  I forgot to put originally that he tried to fob me off with a BW of 28 by saying that there are other orders in the UK to consider.  What, 6 weeks of orders before mine?  I don't think so!

Yeah thats a stupid excuse from him.  I'm week 37 right now (others are even worse off).  Are there really 4 months worth of orders to process before mine?  Does he know how many UK cars are being built per week?  I can only assume it is in the region of 5 based on this...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 11:58
Special orders like my dad seems to have gotten (to make up for an error made) seems to muddy the waters relating to waiting times also when they can add in a last minute order to right a wrong.

Was given the impression that if I hadn't seen the tracking discrepancy that i'd be none the wiser when my dad's correct car came through a few weeks after mine. It does mean though that the tracker does seem to be very accurate, as the reason for my dad's order anomaly is now known.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 31 May 2013, 12:00
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Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 12:11
What's the latest order number here somewhere around the 232415xx range?

Delays have to be down to allocation for GTI and GTD. Order 23241655 is for a VW Golf SE 150TDI and it's already in confirmed build status - how long ago can that have been ordered? Not long i'm guessing as I can't get the tracker to give me anything beyond 23241669 (which is a GTD BTW)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 12:20
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So you got told BW26 and now you're confirmed. Hoping to see my status change in the next day or so seeing as dealer and VW UK have both told me BW26 and I was first order at my dealership.  :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Golf7 on 31 May 2013, 12:35
What's the latest order number here somewhere around the 232415xx range?

Delays have to be down to allocation for GTI and GTD. Order 23241655 is for a VW Golf SE 150TDI and it's already in confirmed build status - how long ago can that have been ordered? Not long i'm guessing as I can't get the tracker to give me anything beyond 23241669 (which is a GTD BTW)

Good theory but not correct. My order, placed with the dealer on 8th April is for a GT 150TDI, order number 232080xx and it has been on 'Processing your order' since I received my order number on 12th April. I am told by VWUK that I have an unconfirmed BW27.....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 31 May 2013, 13:07
Bear, yes I totally agree.  Their systems do not favour the customer whatsoever.  But do they really care?  No, as they'll always be someone to buy a new GTI.

Plus, let's not forget, the UK is hardly high up on Europe's Christmas card list.  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 31 May 2013, 13:16
What's the latest order number here somewhere around the 232415xx range?

Delays have to be down to allocation for GTI and GTD. Order 23241655 is for a VW Golf SE 150TDI and it's already in confirmed build status - how long ago can that have been ordered? Not long i'm guessing as I can't get the tracker to give me anything beyond 23241669 (which is a GTD BTW)

Good theory but not correct. My order, placed with the dealer on 8th April is for a GT 150TDI, order number 232080xx and it has been on 'Processing your order' since I received my order number on 12th April. I am told by VWUK that I have an unconfirmed BW27.....

I'm order number 2325XXXX and was also told BW27 but i'm not going to hold my breath  :sad:

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 31 May 2013, 13:22
Who do you guys speak to at VW?

My salesman is on holiday so I thought I would try getting an update from VW. VW customer services were so unhelpful and told me they don't give estimated build weeks. When I said I had an unconfirmed BW from my dealer she said I would have to speak to them....

Thanks for the customer service VW!?!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 13:23
Plus, let's not forget, the UK is hardly high up on Europe's Christmas card list.  :sad:

True.  The sooner they realise that they're better off letting us run everything for them the better!  :grin: :grin: :grin:

But of course I jest (or do I :evil:)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 13:24
Who do you guys speak to at VW?

My salesman is on holiday so I thought I would try getting an update from VW. VW customer services were so unhelpful and told me they don't give estimated build weeks. When I said I had an unconfirmed BW from my dealer she said I would have to speak to them....

Thanks for the customer service VW!?!

VW on Twitter are good.

twitter@volkswagon.co.uk
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mackandmark on 31 May 2013, 13:40
Bill, I've asked the same question 3 times and they have never given me a definitive answer.

They are stringing us along!!
Our cars will be ready when they want them to be, nothing we can do in the meantime
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Whiteshirt on 31 May 2013, 13:43
I was given BW 25 now I'm told it is BW 36.
The dealer said that because I had added Rear Camera  (after much- not possible, VW will not allow with Park Assist etc. etc. eventually ok to add) that this would put the BW back by a couple of weeks, but he is amazed of the extra 11 weeks..
My number is 2317****
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 14:11
I was given BW 25 now I'm told it is BW 36.
The dealer said that because I had added Rear Camera  (after much- not possible, VW will not allow with Park Assist etc. etc. eventually ok to add) that this would put the BW back by a couple of weeks, but he is amazed of the extra 11 weeks..
My number is 2317****

If you got a part ex in I would imagine your dealer is just as annoyed, copping for 3 months extra depreciation against it. Even so, 11 weeks for addition of a camera takes the piss.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Flintymutt on 31 May 2013, 15:44
I'm not sure if this is the case all over the uk but I was told that if I placed an order today I'm now looking at December delivery!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 31 May 2013, 16:03
What's more "Laughable" is that I received an automated email from my dealer today with a link to the New GTi advert on YouTube (Basically the Vegas one but now with some hillbilly singers added for comedy value) basically saying "BE ONE OF THE FIRST TO OWN THE NEW GTi!!!" Please contact us for further information

I nearly choked on my cornflakes!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Whiteshirt on 31 May 2013, 16:27
I was given BW 25 now I'm told it is BW 36.
The dealer said that because I had added Rear Camera  (after much- not possible, VW will not allow with Park Assist etc. etc. eventually ok to add) that this would put the BW back by a couple of weeks, but he is amazed of the extra 11 weeks..
My number is 2317****

If you got a part ex in I would imagine your dealer is just as annoyed, copping for 3 months extra depreciation against it. Even so, 11 weeks for addition of a camera takes the piss.

No p/ex  so no problem for the dealer ..
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 18:02
Just had my dealer on the phone.

For some unbeknown reason my build week has dropped back to BW27 from BW26 and my dad's special order replacement is scheduled for week 30 apparently. Very apologetic about it all and gave my dad the option of taking the black one without paying for the metallic paint charge if he doesn't want to wait 5 weeks.

I'm guessing that this cock up with my dad's car has now screwed the allocation for Sunderland branch. now i'm second order (behind the black one) i'm guessing that's why I have been put back a week. I hope that under the circumstances my dad's replacement red one (just been given a new correct order number for it) isn't considered an allocation car that could affect mcmaddys build date negatively.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 18:21
Just had my dealer on the phone.

For some unbeknown reason my build week has dropped back to BW27 from BW26 and my dad's special order replacement is scheduled for week 30 apparently. Very apologetic about it all and gave my dad the option of taking the black one without paying for the metallic paint charge if he doesn't want to wait 5 weeks.

I'm guessing that this cock up with my dad's car has now screwed the allocation for Sunderland branch. now i'm second order (behind the black one) i'm guessing that's why I have been put back a week. I hope that under the circumstances my dad's replacement red one (just been given a new correct order number for it) isn't considered an allocation car that could affect mcmaddys build date negatively.

Here's a question.  If every time any of us changes something, or just some random fault happens like with MH and his dad, and then several orders get bumped back... who is the unknown beneficiary????  I mean, someone must have their order bumped forward right?  Or do the Germans just get an extra half hour lunch break each time this happens?  I suppose if everyone moves forward one slot then few people will actually change BW.  Although I'm still unsure that there are more than 5 build slots for the UK each week anyway!

If it were due to general delays then that implies that it is only when we make a change that we discover these longer waits, but that we're all constantly being pushed further and further back anyway, but no one is telling most of us.

Hmm...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 18:28
Just had my dealer on the phone.

For some unbeknown reason my build week has dropped back to BW27 from BW26 and my dad's special order replacement is scheduled for week 30 apparently. Very apologetic about it all and gave my dad the option of taking the black one without paying for the metallic paint charge if he doesn't want to wait 5 weeks.

I'm guessing that this cock up with my dad's car has now screwed the allocation for Sunderland branch. now i'm second order (behind the black one) i'm guessing that's why I have been put back a week. I hope that under the circumstances my dad's replacement red one (just been given a new correct order number for it) isn't considered an allocation car that could affect mcmaddys build date negatively.

Here's a question.  If every time any of us changes something, or just some random fault happens like with MH and his dad, and then several orders get bumped back... who is the unknown beneficiary????  I mean, someone must have their order bumped forward right?  Or do the Germans just get an extra half hour lunch break each time this happens?  I suppose if everyone moves forward one slot then few people will actually change BW.  Although I'm still unsure that there are more than 5 build slots for the UK each week anyway!

If it were due to general delays then that implies that it is only when we make a change that we discover these longer waits, but that we're all constantly being pushed further and further back anyway, but no one is telling most of us.

Hmm...

Mine might've officially had another change in the cock-up as my dad's 5 year warranty had been inadvertantly added to my car in error and removed. If it wasn't removed in the same step as changing my car colour from DBP to TR then it probably was considered an extra change. Not sure why an extended warranty added or taken away would change their build schedule for that car as it constitutes no physical components, unless they really do take more care with the 5 year warranty cars (as someone here joked about ages ago).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 19:01
Just had my dealer on the phone.

For some unbeknown reason my build week has dropped back to BW27 from BW26 and my dad's special order replacement is scheduled for week 30 apparently. Very apologetic about it all and gave my dad the option of taking the black one without paying for the metallic paint charge if he doesn't want to wait 5 weeks.

I'm guessing that this cock up with my dad's car has now screwed the allocation for Sunderland branch. now i'm second order (behind the black one) i'm guessing that's why I have been put back a week. I hope that under the circumstances my dad's replacement red one (just been given a new correct order number for it) isn't considered an allocation car that could affect mcmaddys build date negatively.

Here's a question.  If every time any of us changes something, or just some random fault happens like with MH and his dad, and then several orders get bumped back... who is the unknown beneficiary????  I mean, someone must have their order bumped forward right?  Or do the Germans just get an extra half hour lunch break each time this happens?  I suppose if everyone moves forward one slot then few people will actually change BW.  Although I'm still unsure that there are more than 5 build slots for the UK each week anyway!

If it were due to general delays then that implies that it is only when we make a change that we discover these longer waits, but that we're all constantly being pushed further and further back anyway, but no one is telling most of us.

Hmm...

Mine might've officially had another change in the cock-up as my dad's 5 year warranty had been inadvertantly added to my car in error and removed. If it wasn't removed in the same step as changing my car colour from DBP to TR then it probably was considered an extra change. Not sure why an extended warranty added or taken away would change their build schedule for that car as it constitutes no physical components, unless they really do take more care with the 5 year warranty cars (as someone here joked about ages ago).

Well I thought extended warranty only had to be added before first registration, meaning you could wait until its on the boat and then add it.  Ergo it should in no way impact the build at all, so there should be no delay.  If things were logical that is.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 31 May 2013, 21:33
I had a call from my dealer and he stated wk 27 which is exactly what VW UK told me. Means im looking at delivery approx end of July. Still may change though
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 31 May 2013, 22:04
Just had my dealer on the phone.

For some unbeknown reason my build week has dropped back to BW27 from BW26 and my dad's special order replacement is scheduled for week 30 apparently. Very apologetic about it all and gave my dad the option of taking the black one without paying for the metallic paint charge if he doesn't want to wait 5 weeks.

I'm guessing that this cock up with my dad's car has now screwed the allocation for Sunderland branch. now i'm second order (behind the black one) i'm guessing that's why I have been put back a week. I hope that under the circumstances my dad's replacement red one (just been given a new correct order number for it) isn't considered an allocation car that could affect mcmaddys build date negatively.
it had better fu**king not!!  :evil: I'm seriously pi**end off with the whole thing. total and utter cock up from day one. nothing we specify should hold up any build. they knew people would be ordering and they will have known or had a pretty good idea what popular options would be specced. I'm already on wk34 which is 8 past monkeyhangers dads and my order was 2nd. if they have fu**ed up at the dealership then that's not my fault so why should I be penalised!! I'm ringing tomorrow to cancel!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Nuggsy71 on 31 May 2013, 22:25
Popped into benfield at silverlink  tonight, they have the blue 5dr gti as a demonstrator, very nice. They might be clueless, but I was told if I ordered, delivery would be around September! I ordered mine from Pullman in durham on 6th may, and to be fair to them, they told me at the time, delivery would be about end of August / mid September. So all in all, if it arrives before then, I'll be happy. I was also told no orders for gtd would go on system until bw22.
All in all, yes I can't wait. But it's not unexpected!
This board is making me sleepless and irritable !!
Think I'll have to go to parents and pinch some of their pills.
Chill everyone. If we cancel orders, what else would you order? The skoda yeti? It's the best car supposedly!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 31 May 2013, 22:36
Problem is nuggsy I ordered mine on 2nd April a month before you and you've been told august/September. when I ordered mine I was told late June early July. so the fact I've ordered a month before you means f*** all. I would expect delivery of mine to be before yours but it looks unlikely seeing as though Sunderland appear to be totally inept at changing an existing order. I know its my first new car ever but the customer service/experience is shocking.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Nuggsy71 on 31 May 2013, 23:05
Totally understand your frustration. information from everyone is total crap.
the amount of money everyone is dishing out, i work for a housebuilder, and if we treat customers like this we wouldnt sell anything!
who would buy a house not knowing the spec, does it come with a kitchen, how many bedrooms?

on another note, the gtd now has sales literature at the dealers. does anyone know what colour red the car is in the literature? its red and looks amazing!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 31 May 2013, 23:19
considering its the 2nd biggest purchase the majority of people will make besides a house VW's customer service is nothing short of total rubbish. why make people think they can have a car in June when in reality it's likely to be September. piss poor and nowhere near good enough!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 23:33
Just had my dealer on the phone.

For some unbeknown reason my build week has dropped back to BW27 from BW26 and my dad's special order replacement is scheduled for week 30 apparently. Very apologetic about it all and gave my dad the option of taking the black one without paying for the metallic paint charge if he doesn't want to wait 5 weeks.

I'm guessing that this cock up with my dad's car has now screwed the allocation for Sunderland branch. now i'm second order (behind the black one) i'm guessing that's why I have been put back a week. I hope that under the circumstances my dad's replacement red one (just been given a new correct order number for it) isn't considered an allocation car that could affect mcmaddys build date negatively.
it had better fu**king not!!  :evil: I'm seriously pi**end off with the whole thing. total and utter cock up from day one. nothing we specify should hold up any build. they knew people would be ordering and they will have known or had a pretty good idea what popular options would be specced. I'm already on wk34 which is 8 past monkeyhangers dads and my order was 2nd. if they have fu**ed up at the dealership then that's not my fault so why should I be penalised!! I'm ringing tomorrow to cancel!!

The rogue order that was my dad's is now 1st in the queue. If changes are made and that bumps the car then I really don't understand why what was order 3 (after yours and mine) is now at the front of a queue of 4 when it has changed once itself (colour from TR to DBP). Officially mine has had the same change (exact opposite, from DBP to TR), although due to the cock-up I think mine has changed later from DBP to TR than what was my dad's car TR to DBP (in error).

Trouble with all this is that officially there is nothing wrong. They'll argue that a car isn't late until it has been allocated a build week officially that hasn't been met. Some lucky sod is going to get the DBP one with almost no waiting. Pulman Sunderland are keeping the order and will most likely sell it with no discount due to the lack of waiting time for it. Mick was very apologetic but did reiterate a few time that it was the admin lass who cocked up and it's the first time she has done so. Must have been confusing for her to deal with 2 orders that have the same name against them (my dad has the same full name as me).

Didn't get any offers of goodwill apart from my dad having the option to take the black one at no extra cost for the paint and then the red one would become a stock car instead.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 June 2013, 09:43
maybe the black one will be a demonstrator? I'm not blaming Mick its just piss poor all round from VW. the mis information and bullsh** ordering is the worst I've ever come across. it still says on sale June and when I ordered was told end of June early July. September isn't acceptable.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 June 2013, 15:35
maybe the black one will be a demonstrator? I'm not blaming Mick its just piss poor all round from VW. the mis information and bullsh** ordering is the worst I've ever come across. it still says on sale June and when I ordered was told end of June early July. September isn't acceptable.

From what Mick said they'll get it in to sell at full sticker price and someone will take his hand off for it to avoid the wait. All my dad would've had out of the compromise was getting the pearl paint he didn't ask for, for nowt - even that was subject to Mick's manager's approval. We need some people ahead of us to make some changes to their car and push them down the queue behind us! Maybe that's how some cars can be bumped up the queue as all the change people get bumped back.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 June 2013, 16:49
but if it goes on dealership allocation then somethings gone wrong somewhere. wouldn't surprise me if Durham have bumped our orders for customers there.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: George k on 01 June 2013, 17:23
Durham has its own allocation that's separate from sunserland
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 June 2013, 17:24
cheers for the info George. nice to get something from the horses mouth  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: George k on 01 June 2013, 17:27
Durham got demo as our sales are much higher than sunderland's. high throughput dealers are the only ones getting demos as demand is high
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 June 2013, 17:31
would that mean that Sunderland's sales will be in a pecking order with VW?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: George k on 01 June 2013, 17:35
No just they may not get as many to sell as Durham as their are are smaller retailer than them
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 June 2013, 17:35
Durham got demo as our sales are much higher than sunderland's. high throughput dealers are the only ones getting demos as demand is high

At point of ordering my dad's GTD (3 of us in by then), my salesman reckoned Durham hadn't sold one GTI/GTD at that point. I could understand Durham getting the Demo as Pulman group as a whole were allocated a demo and management perhaps decided to stick it in their flagship Durham branch. Maybe Durham sell more VWs as a whole even if they aren't GTI/GTDs and that's the deciding factor?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: George k on 01 June 2013, 17:41
Demo allocation went on individual retailer sales
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 June 2013, 17:41
to be honest George the service department is the only reason I come to Durham as the sales side are rubbish. don't return phonecalls, know nothing about the cars, send you texts 6 weeks after the order books have opened for gtd/gti's, can't even be bothered to work out finance figures properly. the list goes on.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: George k on 01 June 2013, 17:43
to be honest George the service department is the only reason I come to Durham as the sales side are rubbish. don't return phonecalls, know nothing about the cars, send you texts 6 weeks after the order books have opened for gtd/gti's, can't even be bothered to work out finance figures properly. the list goes on.

As you know I'm not with sales but with service so not going to comment on their performance  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 June 2013, 17:45
probably best not to on an open forum haha :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 03 June 2013, 14:11

Well, I'm back to week 28 according to my dealer this morning.... even after a change of colour last week when it went back to 34!  So fingers crossed.....  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 03 June 2013, 15:13
I really don't understand what's going on at VW. Just got a callback from them. Still provisional 28, brought forward from BW39 (wtf first time I've heard this  :shocked:)

Now the interesting part - factory shut down is from BW29 - so there's f7ck all chance of me getting my car soon, as even if its been built on the Monday of BW28, it'll sit in the factory for at least 2 weeks after that.

Additionally, the chap tells me no BWs are confirmed for the GTI as its official launch isn't until June 18th. I thought it was June 1st?!

All in all, I'm pretty confused/hacked off with VW at the moment.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 03 June 2013, 15:28

Oh bugger, didnt twig that the shutdown would effect it. Is wk 29 definitely the first week of the shutdown? I was told last week of July and first two of August...? ie Week 31-33. With the first week open after the holiday being 34. So we may still be in luck!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 June 2013, 15:42

Oh bugger, didnt twig that the shutdown would effect it. Is wk 29 definitely the first week of the shutdown? I was told last week of July and first two of August...? ie Week 31-33. With the first week open after the holiday being 34. So we may still be in luck!

I would expect shutdown won't affect a finished car. If it is finished and left the factory gates before they shut down then it will get transported normally. Shutdown is just for the factory - get the lines cleared so you can get at the equipment and services (compressed air lines for the airgun tooling, electricity, any piped fluids etc) for routine annual preventative maintenance, line modifications etc.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 03 June 2013, 15:48
Oh no not again.  Why can't we get the same answer from everyone in VW instead of each time getting a conflicting response??

If they can't even agree on when the shut down is what hope do we have of getting reliable information on build and delivery? haha, I'm off to top myself.  No wait, scratch that, I'm off to email my dealer for an update.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 03 June 2013, 16:35
Ok I asked my dealer if I was first order with them.  They didn't answer exactly but here I what I got back:

Quote
The GTI/ GTD was orderable if I remember rightly as of the end of March, so yours was ordered within the first month when we had factory slots, hence why it has a scheduled week. People who place their orders now are experiencing even further delays as we currently have no factory allocation.

I've replied asking specifically if this implies that an order placed now with a dealer who has not yet had any orders would be able to get an earlier build slot.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Berelli on 03 June 2013, 16:44

Oh bugger, didnt twig that the shutdown would effect it. Is wk 29 definitely the first week of the shutdown? I was told last week of July and first two of August...? ie Week 31-33. With the first week open after the holiday being 34. So we may still be in luck!

Hang on, mines due for BW33, while they are on holiday. Who is going to build it, two week temporay staff? The steering wheel will be upside down etc........oh no!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 03 June 2013, 16:52

As Bear said, does no one at VW know or tell the truth about what is actually happening with the GTI orders!!  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: joet on 03 June 2013, 22:43

I got an email from my dealer confirming build week 25!

He said I could potentially have it by mid-July. Here's hoping.

Fairly basic spec - Three door, CSG, PP and Discover Nav.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 03 June 2013, 22:54

I got an email from my dealer confirming build week 25!

He said I could potentially have it by mid-July. Here's hoping.

Fairly basic spec - Three door, CSG, PP and Discover Nav.

When did you place your order Joe?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: joet on 03 June 2013, 23:13

I got an email from my dealer confirming build week 25!

He said I could potentially have it by mid-July. Here's hoping.

Fairly basic spec - Three door, CSG, PP and Discover Nav.

When did you place your order Joe?

I placed the order on 26th April. Did it via Drive-the-deal.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 03 June 2013, 23:27
My car has disappeared off the order tracker. Brilliant.  :cry: :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 03 June 2013, 23:51
My car has disappeared off the order tracker. Brilliant.  :cry: :angry:

Don't worry. It happened to me for a couple of hours then it reappeared
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 04 June 2013, 01:12

I got an email from my dealer confirming build week 25!

He said I could potentially have it by mid-July. Here's hoping.

Fairly basic spec - Three door, CSG, PP and Discover Nav.

Woo! Congratulations.

When you get it you gotta come back here and post LOTS of pics and reviews.  The rest of us will be going crazy knowing there are some on the road if we don't hear about it. Heh heh
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 04 June 2013, 07:28
I have had an estimated  build week of 38 for my GTD.  Order was placed 03/05/13.  Here's hoping it moves forward a little and not back.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 04 June 2013, 09:18
My car has disappeared off the order tracker. Brilliant.  :cry: :angry:

Don't worry. It happened to me for a couple of hours then it reappeared

You're right, its back today.  What's that all about?  I assume some sort of update??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: joet on 04 June 2013, 10:06

I got an email from my dealer confirming build week 25!

He said I could potentially have it by mid-July. Here's hoping.

Fairly basic spec - Three door, CSG, PP and Discover Nav.

Woo! Congratulations.

When you get it you gotta come back here and post LOTS of pics and reviews.  The rest of us will be going crazy knowing there are some on the road if we don't hear about it. Heh heh

I certainly will. I can't wait!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 04 June 2013, 10:25
My car has disappeared off the order tracker. Brilliant.  :cry: :angry:

Don't worry. It happened to me for a couple of hours then it reappeared

You're right, its back today.  What's that all about?  I assume some sort of update??

I was hoping it was an update but nowt changed with mine yet. Still processing  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 04 June 2013, 10:29
I haven't got a confirmed build week online yet. But my sales guy called me up out the blue on Friday, saying that my GTD 'Was going in to build soon' and that he was expecting it Mid-Late August.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 04 June 2013, 10:42
I was hoping it was an update but nowt changed with mine yet. Still processing  :sad:

Yeah me too, first thing I did this morning when I woke up was check it as thought its got to be doing an update on my order.  Alas, as with all things VW recently, I was let down and there was no movement nor additional information.  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 04 June 2013, 11:45
I was hoping it was an update but nowt changed with mine yet. Still processing  :sad:

Yeah me too, first thing I did this morning when I woke up was check it as thought its got to be doing an update on my order.  Alas, as with all things VW recently, I was let down and there was no movement nor additional information.  :sad:

It does seem like when this happens it precedes an update (note H5-O's thread where a few are appearing as recognised for the first time).  However, I don't think it indicates an update to any specific order, just an overall update or maybe just busy server.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 04 June 2013, 12:31
Interestingly, my dealer has just emailed me.  I'm still showing provisional BW28 (which if it stays that way I'm reasonably happy with given other's horror stories). However, he said that it was a good job we ordered when we did as orders he's placed after mine are showing BW37 and beyond - that's a September build  :shocked:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 04 June 2013, 12:43
Went into my dealer yesterday to test drive their demo (I'll write up a review later on when I get a mo). Latest update with regards to BW is 28 much like yourself. So in the space of a few weeks its gone from 37 to 27 to 25 back up to 28????

What he did point out was that although the car may only take a day or so to be built it may take upto four weeks before being shipped. Apparently these car container ships can hold upto 30k plus cars & only set sail when full. So it could be sat waiting on the docks for god knows how long? All he knows is that's its now going to be August delivery.... :whistle: that's not a problem I've waited so long already, I'm passed caring...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 04 June 2013, 12:59
Went into my dealer yesterday to test drive their demo (I'll write up a review later on when I get a mo). Latest update with regards to BW is 28 much like yourself. So in the space of a few weeks its gone from 37 to 27 to 25 back up to 28????

What he did point out was that although the car may only take a day or so to be built it may take upto four weeks before being shipped. Apparently this car container ships can hold upto 30k plus cars & only set sail when full. So it could be sat waiting on the docks for god knows how long? All he knows is that's its now going to be August delivery.... :whistle: that's not a problem I've waited so long already, I'm passed caring...

Yep, my car was built on Wk20, over 2 weeks ago and is awaiting shipment. The dealer isn't expecting to see it for at least another week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 04 June 2013, 13:04
Went into my dealer yesterday to test drive their demo (I'll write up a review later on when I get a mo). Latest update with regards to BW is 28 much like yourself. So in the space of a few weeks its gone from 37 to 27 to 25 back up to 28????

What he did point out was that although the car may only take a day or so to be built it may take upto four weeks before being shipped. Apparently this car container ships can hold upto 30k plus cars & only set sail when full. So it could be sat waiting on the docks for god knows how long? All he knows is that's its now going to be August delivery.... :whistle: that's not a problem I've waited so long already, I'm passed caring...

My BW has swung around just like yours.  Your point regarding delivery is spot on, I always work to 4 weeks (including the build week) if you're lucky, usually its 5 weeks.  So for me and you on BW28 that's the first week of August at best to take delivery.  Which is annoying as I want it yesterday but at the same time it will be a month earlier than my mk 6 took (ordered same time in April 2009) - so although VW seem to have royally f7cked up the mk7 launch they're actually doing a month better than the previous model....so should be applauded??  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 04 June 2013, 13:21
Going from week 25 (probably) to 26 and then 27 (27, if I get tracker status change this week, seeing as it is BW23). Was a little annoying but then I realise that i'm currently in a cracking car and that's not a bad position to be in for this wait. Something happened with the Roc yesterday, it was running way better than normal - felt like it had an extra 20PS, far more responsive than normal and economy was through the roof too. Caned it on my 12 mile commute home and still got 55mpg for the trip. If only it ran like that every day - the weather was really nice yesterday, nothing else changed with the car or driving conditions.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 04 June 2013, 13:26
It seems that there is quite a few of us now around the estimated bw of 27/28 so hopefully fingers crossed we will all be taking delivery of our shiny new cars end of July/beginning of August  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 04 June 2013, 14:03
It seems that there is quite a few of us now around the estimated bw of 27/28 so hopefully fingers crossed we will all be taking delivery of our shiny new cars end of July/beginning of August  :smiley: :smiley:

The only silver lining I can glean from this is, if mine stays at delivery in September/October, at least I'll still have something to look forward to while you guys put miles on your cars!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 04 June 2013, 14:36
that's a September build  :shocked:

Yes, thanks for reminding me. :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 04 June 2013, 14:41
that's a September build  :shocked:

Yes, thanks for reminding me. :angry:

 :grin: Sorry Bear!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 05 June 2013, 11:44
Changed my colour to Carbon, dealer says it won't alter the build week and also said my BW is showing 27, do I believe that?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 June 2013, 11:52
Changed my colour to Carbon, dealer says it won't alter the build week and also said my BW is showing 27, do I believe that?

Two and a half months earlier than me and you're just down the road :cry:.  I ordered a fortnight earlier too.

But, a few of us seem to have BW in the 26-28 range so you could have been lucky here and got a good slot.  If so it should show up BW confirmed on the tracker within about a week from now I would expect.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 June 2013, 11:56
Changed my colour to Carbon, dealer says it won't alter the build week and also said my BW is showing 27, do I believe that?

I wouldn't believe it. According to my dealer when explaining the cock-up that led to my dad's car changing colour instead of mine, they couldn't change the order a week before "build week confirmed" shows up on the tracker, let alone just before.

What's your tracker status (assuming you have an order number to submit)?

If you're BW27 your tracker status should be updated this week (4 weeks before actual build it should go to "build week confirmed") and at this stage it's likely already scheduled by Wolfsburg. If it''s scheduled then you can't change colour, if it's not scheduled then you can change colour, but that would mean it's at least 4 weeks from being built. If my dealer is correct about locking an order out a week before we see the tracker change then that would imply your car won't be built as early as BW27 if you are still able to change the colour.

Try VW UK for an answer which may be more or less plausible than the one your dealer gave you. Give it a day or 2 after colour change and give them a ring. They should be able to confirm your colour change as gone through and your estimated (if not confirmed) build week.

When I changed my colour, the tracker took 3 weeks to update - not sure how much that was due to the dealer mix-up between mine and my dad's GTD and how much was down to the time it takes for the tracker to update any colour or other option changes.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 05 June 2013, 11:59
Order has now dropped off the tracker, was there before I changed the colour, I may regret this.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 05 June 2013, 12:07
The dealer said my car was on status 10 so was able to change the colour and the system accepted it, so that must mean the car is at least 4 weeks from build. I know if a car is at status 20 it can't be changed as that's what happened to my UP! I had on order, that was built 2 weeks later.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mjh_056 on 05 June 2013, 12:21
One thing I am quite happy about is not being part of this order madness as must be driving you all nuts and very poor on VW part given ££ being spent - My lease expires at a set time in October and on that day and not a moment before cars will be exchanged.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 05 June 2013, 13:31
Been to see my dealer today and mine is showing as wk 37 at the moment, so looking for the end of August (was told July originally). Taking one out for a test drive tomorrow so at least I get to have a go in one before mine arrives (if it ever does!)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 June 2013, 13:33
Been to see my dealer today and mine is showing as wk 37 at the moment, so looking for the end of August (was told July originally). Taking one out for a test drive tomorrow so at least I get to have a go in one before mine arrives (if it ever does!)

BW37 takes you to week commencing 09 September, minimum of 2 weeks after that for delivery.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 05 June 2013, 13:48
Been to see my dealer today and mine is showing as wk 37 at the moment, so looking for the end of August (was told July originally). Taking one out for a test drive tomorrow so at least I get to have a go in one before mine arrives (if it ever does!)

BW37 takes you to week commencing 09 September, minimum of 2 weeks after that for delivery.

Bugger (maths never my strong point) suppose it gives me a few extra weeks of saving!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 05 June 2013, 13:50
Been to see my dealer today and mine is showing as wk 37 at the moment, so looking for the end of August (was told July originally). Taking one out for a test drive tomorrow so at least I get to have a go in one before mine arrives (if it ever does!)

That'll be the 2nd week in October for delivery, at the earliest.  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 June 2013, 14:43
Been to see my dealer today and mine is showing as wk 37 at the moment, so looking for the end of August (was told July originally). Taking one out for a test drive tomorrow so at least I get to have a go in one before mine arrives (if it ever does!)

That'll be the 2nd week in October for delivery, at the earliest.  :sad:

I'm BW37 at the moment and mid October is the earliest anticipated delivery for me.  :cry:

Welcome to the club.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: DougL on 05 June 2013, 15:22
I'm interested in how bw37 wishes to a mid October delivery as that week starts on 9th September
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 June 2013, 15:28
I'm interested in how bw37 wishes to a mid October delivery as that week starts on 9th September

Long experience is teaching me to assume the longest possible time for each operation.  So in this case:
Ta da!

Yes I really hope it moves faster than that, but even on my last car (which was only 8 weeks estimated from order to collection) I ended up having to add on something like 3 weeks to the "absolute latest" estimated collection.  So now I'm just assuming everything takes the maximum time it might take, and I should probably throw some time in to allow for delays but I can't face doing that! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 05 June 2013, 15:31
I'm interested in how bw37 wishes to a mid October delivery as that week starts on 9th September

1 week to build, minimum 3 weeks to deliver, few days to PDI.  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 06 June 2013, 08:24
Order back on the tracker and the colour has changed but still showing as order processing so I don't believe the BW27 quoted by the dealer as that's less than 4 weeks away. Hopefully changing the colour has not pushed the BW back.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 06 June 2013, 18:25
I'm guessing for those of us who were told bw27 if we don't see a change on the track my order website tomorrow then it ain't going to happen?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 06 June 2013, 18:29
I'm guessing for those of us who were told bw27 if we don't see a change on the track my order website tomorrow then it ain't going to happen?

Correct. You should have a confirmed BW by end of play tomorrow. If you haven't then you've been f7cked over & they are telling porkies *shocker* which I surely can't believe  :rolleyes:  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 06 June 2013, 18:37
I'm guessing for those of us who were told bw27 if we don't see a change on the track my order website tomorrow then it ain't going to happen?

Correct. You should have a confirmed BW by end of play tomorrow. If you haven't then you've been f7cked over & they are telling porkies *shocker* which I surely can't believe  :rolleyes:  :whistle:

 :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 06 June 2013, 22:34
When I was out with my dealer tonight for a test drive he was mentioning that my car is build confirmed for week 26 :smiley: and everything is going to plan. Apparently one customer ordered the day before me and he specified DSG yet he hasn't even had a confirmed build week go figure.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 06 June 2013, 22:36
When I was out with my dealer tonight for a test drive he was mentioning that my car is build confirmed for week 26 :smiley: and everything is going to plan. Apparently one customer ordered the day before me and he specified DSG yet he hasn't even had a confirmed build week go figure.

Is yours showing build week confirmed status on the website?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 06 June 2013, 22:38
Honestly I have no idea I've never bother obtaining my order number from the sales team.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 07 June 2013, 07:41
Hi there folks, I'm fairly new to the forum and am loving all the up to date info! I ordered my Carbon Grey GTD on 24th May. Just checked 'Track My Order' which is now showing 'Build Week Confirmed'.  What week will this be? Is this tracker accurate?  My dealer told me I should be good for a mid Sept delivery and that this could possibly even come forward.   :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 07 June 2013, 07:45
Hi there folks, I'm fairly new to the forum and am loving all the up to date info! I ordered my Carbon Grey GTD on 24th May. Just checked 'Track My Order' which is now showing 'Build Week Confirmed'.  What week will this be? Is this tracker accurate?  My dealer told me I should be good for a mid Sept delivery and that this could possibly even come forward.   :smiley:

Just checked mine and it has moved to build week confirmed as well :smiley: :smiley: I was told bw27 which it appears on target for which means delivery end of July/beginning of August. I think you would be looking at the same
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 June 2013, 12:09
Congrats both of you!  We're pretty confident that the tracker changes to BW confirmed 4 weeks before the car is built.  If yours just changed its probably BW27.  Might take around 4 weeks to build, ship and collect,  hopefully less, so you should have your car 6-8 weeks ftom now! :cool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 07 June 2013, 12:16
Congrats both of you!  We're pretty confident that the tracker changes to BW confirmed 4 weeks before the car is built.  If yours just changed its probably BW27.  Might take around 4 weeks to build, ship and collect,  hopefully less, so you should have your car 6-8 weeks ftom now! :cool:

Thanks Bill. Seems really promising. Hope you guys get some better news soon
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Andyduz on 07 June 2013, 18:00
Hi all, I'm a new member so please go easy :smiley:. Ordered a company car GTD today through a lease company and was quoted a 12 week lead time. Either I'm very lucky or they have some sort of advantage due to their buying power?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 07 June 2013, 18:17
Delighted at that.  How will I know when they have started building the car?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 07 June 2013, 18:20
Delighted at that.  How will I know when they have started building the car?

I don't think there is anyway of telling for certain. Just need to watch the tracker for when it moves to 'in transit'. Should be in 4-6 weeks from now I think
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 08 June 2013, 09:16
Hi there folks, I'm fairly new to the forum and am loving all the up to date info! I ordered my Carbon Grey GTD on 24th May. Just checked 'Track My Order' which is now showing 'Build Week Confirmed'.  What week will this be? Is this tracker accurate?  My dealer told me I should be good for a mid Sept delivery and that this could possibly even come forward.   :smiley:

Holy sh!t that was quick! I ordered mine 8 weeks ago and still have 'Order processing'!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 08 June 2013, 18:16
Confirmed BW27 changed yesterday to unconfirmed BW32  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 June 2013, 18:18
Confirmed BW27 changed yesterday to unconfirmed BW32  :cry:

Is everyone beyond BW26 getting put back? When you say confirmed, what that a verbal confirmed or status of the tracker reverted from "build week confirmed"?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 08 June 2013, 18:20
Verbal from the dealer (so who knows)... The tracker has never shown anything but 'processing your order'
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 June 2013, 18:28
Verbal from the dealer (so who knows)... The tracker has never shown anything but 'processing your order'

Every update I have had from my dealer has been backed up with a phonecall to VW UK whenever a change was made, to confirm. I have gone from BW25 (anticipated - first order from the dealership), to BW26 (following a colour change request), to BW27 (no changes at my end), to BW33 (no changes at my end).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 08 June 2013, 19:00

After seeing everyone's updates recently I checked with my dealer yesterday and was still week 28 unconfirmed. He's going to check first thing Monday and let me know if any update. Can't believe how much it is changing for everyone! But after a 10 week wait so far I'm hoping it stays and still stays 28 which means around 20 weeks order to delivery,
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 June 2013, 21:49
Confirmed BW27 changed yesterday to unconfirmed BW32  :cry:


You're joking? What a p!sstake.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 08 June 2013, 21:54
Wish I was... in the notes it said "Information is not correct and subject to change" (in similar wording to that anyway) dealer says she'll call VW on Monday and get back to me. She said that means it's 'parked' again and could continue to change.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 09 June 2013, 13:24
Spoke to my lovely dealer yesterday and she confirmed that a build date of week 33 was still likely. (Ordered 15th May).

She also mentioned their 1st allocation of GTI / GTD's has ended and any new orders wont see the light of day until Christmas.

And adding the panoramic roof does not delay the order!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 09 June 2013, 20:08
Yeah Valenni Agnews told me the same thing re allocations.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 09 June 2013, 22:54
Yeah Valenni Agnews told me the same thing re allocations.

Did you check out their navy blue GTI? Mmmm really nice, but the blue kills the lines a bit. It suits a brighter colour IMO.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 June 2013, 09:47
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 10 June 2013, 10:03
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:

Me and You Both.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us!!! I'm checking my religiously on the hour....EVERY hour...  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 June 2013, 10:08
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:

Me and You Both.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us!!! I'm checking my religiously on the hour....EVERY hour...  :grin:

 :grin: I've all ready checked 5 times in the last 2 hours!!

Fingers crossed for both of us then....imagine if one of us gets a confirmed BW and the other doesn't....   :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 10 June 2013, 10:30
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:

Me and You Both.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us!!! I'm checking my religiously on the hour....EVERY hour...  :grin:

 :grin: I've all ready checked 5 times in the last 2 hours!!

Fingers crossed for both of us then....imagine if one of us gets a confirmed BW and the other doesn't....   :cry:

I was the same last week guys. Didn't think it was going to happen and then Friday morning there it was  :smiley: Don't be surprised if it doesn't change until Friday but fingers crossed for both of you
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 June 2013, 10:31
Cheers Craig!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 10 June 2013, 18:01
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:

Me and You Both.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us!!! I'm checking my religiously on the hour....EVERY hour...  :grin:

 :grin: I've all ready checked 5 times in the last 2 hours!!

Fingers crossed for both of us then....imagine if one of us gets a confirmed BW and the other doesn't....   :cry:

It doesnt bear thinking about. If you by some sheer miracle get a positive confirmation by the end of the week & I don't.....I'm going to be throwing my 'toys' out the Pram!!!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mackandmark on 10 June 2013, 18:14
Big Result today..............estimated build week was 40

Now

34.......Boom (still only estimated but I'll take that) :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 10 June 2013, 18:15
Big Result today..............estimated build week was 40

Now

34.......Boom (still only estimated but I'll take that) :laugh:

Wow!  Month and a half earlier, impressive :cool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 June 2013, 18:19
Ditto @ Gung-Ho  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mackandmark on 10 June 2013, 20:04
Hopefully everyone else will see their's come forward similar to mine

Here's to everyone getting a full 6 weeks shaved off their lead times!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 10 June 2013, 20:05
My dealer emailed today to say my build week has gone back 2 weeks to bw37  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Manchester6 on 10 June 2013, 23:56
Big Result today..............estimated build week was 40

Now

34.......Boom (still only estimated but I'll take that) :laugh:

Wouldnt count on it, my dealer has told me i am estimated bw34 but they already know for a fact this wont be the case as the factory is closed that week. They said they didnt know why they have assigned this build week and they can only tell me as much info as they have. She told me when i ordered on 8 th may it would be aug delivery, she has now told me to plan for oct delivery earliest.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Samj78 on 11 June 2013, 11:11
Just cancelled my order after such poor service from dealership. Think I'll wait now for new golf R which looks amazing.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 June 2013, 11:35
Just cancelled my order after such poor service from dealership. Think I'll wait now for new golf R which looks amazing.

Get your deposit back?  What was the reason you cancelled?  The appalling lead times?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 11 June 2013, 12:15
I have cancelled my GTD order too and have been given my deposit back. We agreed that I had been misled after being told to expect the car end June..
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AndyG on 11 June 2013, 12:22
Roo1 what are your plans now then?Are you going to go for another marque or wait till the supply of golfs are more fluent.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 June 2013, 12:46
I wonder how many people have cancelled now?

I just checked through my calender and realised I am now one week further from my estimated delivery date now than I was a month and a half ago when I first ordered! :shocked:  i.e. After waiting about 6 weeks I am now 7 weeks further from getting the car, not 6 weeks closer. :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mackandmark on 11 June 2013, 13:10
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I wonder how many people have cancelled now?

The more the merrier I say Bill, that way maybe those of us left will get theirs a little bit quicker  :laugh: :evil: :laugh: :evil: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 11 June 2013, 13:14
I just can't understand the delay in delivering these cars. Just on the track my order website and according to stats, VW (ignoring their subsidiaries) build 18,000 cars every weekday  :shocked: It's clear they have built a hell of a lot of demo models already so they clearly have the manufacturing process up and running without any glitches so why this delay! It just seems ridiculous and its the the UK market that appears to be getting shafted  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 11 June 2013, 13:17
why dont we find out if vw germany have a twitter page or the head of vw in germany has a twitter page?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 June 2013, 13:19
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I wonder how many people have cancelled now?

The more the merrier I say Bill, that way maybe those of us left will get theirs a little bit quicker  :laugh: :evil: :laugh: :evil: :laugh:

Yes! :grin: .... and no :sad:.

I think this greatly depends on what a dealer does with a cancelled order.  I see three options for them:

Only in option 3 would we get our cars quicker, and there is no benefit to the dealer by doing this.  I think much more likely is option 1 or 2.  This way they get a new order, and can probably offer much less discount as people will be keen to jump the queue.

Expect to see more happy new members on this forum posting about their June or July orders arriving a few weeks later in August while those of us who ordered 2-3 months before them still have 3 months to go before we see our cars.  I expect nothing less from VW based on their levels of service (or lack of anything of the sort) so far.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 June 2013, 13:21
why dont we find out if vw germany have a twitter page or the head of vw in germany has a twitter page?

Or his email address.

Or far far better yet his postal address.  A series of polite and purely factual letters from a set of unhappy customers would be the best way to make him sit up and take note.

Shall I draft a template? :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 11 June 2013, 13:47
I also think it's important to note that if anyone who cancels their expects VW to mourn, then think again. They can't make enough cars as it is, so cancelations won't effect them.

Now, my current car goes back on the 6th of July, so I am off to arrange a short term lease with someone while I wait for my GTD in September / October.  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 11 June 2013, 14:28
why dont we find out if vw germany have a twitter page or the head of vw in germany has a twitter page?

Or his email address.

Or far far better yet his postal address.  A series of polite and purely factual letters from a set of unhappy customers would be the best way to make him sit up and take note.

Shall I draft a template? :whistle:
Yeah why not. We just want some basic information of how things are what they are. Whats the hold up etc, why do we get different information from VW UK. Its not doing the brand any favours with existing customers or prospective customers.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 11 June 2013, 14:33
Just to update everyone on my GTD.

I called my dealer today to add the climate windscreen to my build. An hour later my sales guy called me back, saying that my car has been allocated a build slot, and unfortunately that they cannot make alterations at this stage. This falls in line with the courtesy call from him 11 days ago advising me it would be getting a build week soon.

My order tracker is still saying "Order Processing". So it might be that your guys' online tracker just hasn't been updated yet, as it seems mine hasn't.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 11 June 2013, 15:00
Word of warning re: complaining.  My dealer mentioned yesterday that VW were unhappy about my level of chatter on twitter/email regarding my order.  So much so that they were considering cancelling it  :shocked:

Now, I don't believe they would go this far.  Especially as I have never been abusive/rude/moany on twitter or via email.  I've only asked why the delay on my order, why the provisional BW keeps changing and why I cannot be given a confirmed BW.  I believe it to be scare tactics to stop me harassing them.  Thing is, its sort of worked - as last thing I want is to have my order cancelled.  So, from now on (and call me a p7ssy if you so wish! :laugh:) I'm going to leave them alone and take my car when it comes.  Unless of course they change my BW again in which case I will become a keyboard warrier  :evil:

The point being therefore is this: they don't give a flying f7ck whether orders are delayed/wrong etc etc.  Because there is always someone else wanting to take the car.  And you get it when you get it.

And as much as I do not like being in the dark regarding delivery times, especially with such a large purchase, I am going to keep schtum for the time being in terms of corresponding with them.

(I'm calling myself a p7ssy right now  :laugh:)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jules Winfield on 11 June 2013, 15:11
I wonder which term in your contract allows VW to cancel if they think you're complaining too much?  I'd be having a careful look.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lagerlout on 11 June 2013, 15:14
I suspect if they did cancel your order, you may have quite a bit more to say on twitter etc afterwards?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 11 June 2013, 15:18
If it was cancelled, yes I would be having a serious look at the contract!

Also, yes, I would be going to town on twitter if they'd cancelled it.  Fortunately this is not happening!  :smiley:

Clearly they are not happy about people asking questions and highlighting the delay in orders.  The simple answer to this is to avoid delays in the first place!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: casablanca3 on 11 June 2013, 15:20
so your dealer has complained about your complaining.

boy do they know how to sell cars.

would you consider their complaining as intimidating or threatening.

I'm sure dealers have a code of conduct to comply with and I would be suprised if this encourages complaining about a complainee( if there is such a word)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Chriscav on 11 June 2013, 15:24
VW UK are great arent they?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 June 2013, 15:26
I wonder which term in your contract allows VW to cancel if they think you're complaining too much?  I'd be having a careful look.

They always have a get out of jail free term that is so broad to allow them to cancel for any reason they like.  Really pisses me off about big companies.  They want a term in there so they can always pull out with no consequences, yet they put in as much as possible to shaft you if you want to pull out.  Even if you leaving would be justified, and them leaving would not be.

Anyway, I will take matchboy's warning and resist the temptation to write to VW.  However, threatening a customer like this is hardly improving their image!  And didn't you just write a glowing review of the GTI which they retweeted matchboy?  How is it they publicise your opinions when they are positive about VW, but use threats to shut you up when they are negative?

Too much power.  Seriously, regulators should be stopping this kind of behaviour.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 11 June 2013, 15:48
so your dealer has complained about your complaining.

boy do they know how to sell cars.

would you consider their complaining as intimidating or threatening.

I'm sure dealers have a code of conduct to comply with and I would be suprised if this encourages complaining about a complainee( if there is such a word)
I didn't feel intimidated BUT I was shocked that they could do that, or at least had threatened to.  It certainly put me in my place as it were.

To be fair to the dealer though, once I explained to him that I hadn't complained and that I was only after a reason why my provisional BW had gone from 28 to 26 and also why it still wasn't confirmed (even now!) he agreed with me that he would have done the same thing.  I do not have an issue with my dealer, he has been great.  Which is why I'm using them after my last GTI.  My issue is with VW; I have never been rude or abusive to them, you don't get anywhere being like that.  But VW UK told me in an email that my order was BW26 & highly unlikely to change - then it changed to BW28 and I wanted to know why, from them. 

Basically VW don't like the hassle.  So they tried to pass the buck onto the dealer, which is not the issue.  Deal with it, if you mess people around then they will want to know why!  All anyone on here is asking for is clarity.

Still, once I get my car this will be a distant memory.  Unfortunately these companies hold all the cards and there's not a lot you can do.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 11 June 2013, 18:10
Build week 22 to 27 to 35 if lucky,what a shambles :angry:,if I continue with the order I think this will be the last VW I buy
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 11 June 2013, 18:24
I just got an email from my retailer informing me that my provisional build week has been brought forward from 38 to 32...a step in the right direction at least.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 11 June 2013, 18:37
I just got an email from my retailer informing me that my provisional build week has been brought forward from 38 to 32...a step in the right direction at least.

I got a phone call from VW sales Manager the salesman was to scared to ring me  :grin:,i placed my order on the 31/3/13 when did you place yours ?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 11 June 2013, 18:39
I just got an email from my retailer informing me that my provisional build week has been brought forward from 38 to 32...a step in the right direction at least.

I got a phone call from VW sales Manager the salesman was to scared to ring me  :grin:,i placed my order on the 31/3/13 when did you place yours ?

Early April, but I did change the spec a bit afterwards.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 11 June 2013, 18:49
The worrying thing is I don't have any faith in VW and I expect the dates to change again and for the worst,i have kept my order the same as the day I placed it so I don't understand how they could get it so wrong. :sad: Bunch of muppets  25 weeks from order to delivery
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 11 June 2013, 18:58
Yup, it's a complete and utter joke, and I say that to VW and my dealer every time I speak to them.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 11 June 2013, 19:09
Build week 32 wouldn't that be during the factory shut down :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 11 June 2013, 19:21
Word of warning re: complaining.  My dealer mentioned yesterday that VW were unhappy about my level of chatter on twitter/email regarding my order.  So much so that they were considering cancelling it  :shocked:

Now, I don't believe they would go this far.  Especially as I have never been abusive/rude/moany on twitter or via email.  I've only asked why the delay on my order, why the provisional BW keeps changing and why I cannot be given a confirmed BW.  I believe it to be scare tactics to stop me harassing them.  Thing is, its sort of worked - as last thing I want is to have my order cancelled.  So, from now on (and call me a p7ssy if you so wish! :laugh:) I'm going to leave them alone and take my car when it comes.  Unless of course they change my BW again in which case I will become a keyboard warrier  :evil:



The point being therefore is this: they don't give a flying f7ck whether orders are delayed/wrong etc etc.  Because there is always someone else wanting to take the car.  And you get it when you get it.

And as much as I do not like being in the dark regarding delivery times, especially with such a large purchase, I am going to keep schtum for the time being in terms of corresponding with them.

(I'm calling myself a p7ssy right now  :laugh:)

I warned you and all the other moaners about this before you spat at me.

It is what it is for all GTI 7 orders, be patient or take your custom somewhere else  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 June 2013, 20:10
No one is moaning.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jules Winfield on 11 June 2013, 20:12
Running Man: so people should just roll over and let VW UK and their dealers walk all over them and treat them like dirt?

You seem oddly passive when it comes to getting decent customer service and standing up for yourself as a consumer, not to mention a bit superior when you pontificate to everyone else about why they're in the wrong and why you're (always) right.  Why is that, precisely? 

People are spending £25000 or more on these cars - are they not entitled to be treated with respect?  Do you think that VW/a dealer throwing their toys out of their pram because of a few emails is acceptable?  Do you think that dealers should be allowed to ditch orders because they can't be bothered dealing with a customer who sends them an email asking why their build week moves seemingly every other day?  I get the impression you do, and that nothing the dealer can do is wrong in your eyes.  People want to be informed - what's wrong with that?

There's a reason why the UK consumer gets shafted by companies such as VW.  People like you are part of that reason.  But you don't see it, which is perplexing.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 11 June 2013, 20:36
I think what Running Man is saying is there's no point complaining because we won't get our cars any faster for doing so.

We can kick up a fuss all we want but unfortunately as we've seen it gets you nowhere.

I'm just not getting stressed, doing so will seemingly get us nowhere.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 11 June 2013, 22:55
I think your confusing moaning & complaining with querying & wanting concise information. The last two are things I expect when spending 30 grand.

Either way Running Man I will continue my pursuit of answers should I be dicked around again regardless of any threats. My post was merely there for information should others complain instead of query.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 09:13
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:

Me and You Both.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us!!! I'm checking my religiously on the hour....EVERY hour...  :grin:

So today's the day!  And my my status is......still processing  :rolleyes: :angry: :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 13 June 2013, 10:09
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:

Me and You Both.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us!!! I'm checking my religiously on the hour....EVERY hour...  :grin:

So today's the day!  And my my status is......still processing  :rolleyes: :angry: :cry:

Have you still not got tomorrow? I think quite a few of them seem to change on a Friday.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 10:22
Have you still not got tomorrow? I think quite a few of them seem to change on a Friday.

Oh, I thought it was a Thursday it changed on!  I'll cheer up for 24 hours then!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 12:07
Got an update from Lisa,

Apparently my estimated BW is changing a lot so she doesn't want to give me an answer that is invalid next week.  I pressed a bit and was told it is changing between 37 and 39.  Might come forward or might... (she left me to guess the last part).

Pretty disappointed to hear that, particularly the bit about 39.  I had been told 37 last time by my dealer, so I was hoping she was going to say something like it is varying between 30 and 36, not that what I was told by my dealer (which is already ridiculous) is now the "best case".

If when I ordered someone had said it would be October I'd have laughed in their face.  Not sure I can cope with it becoming November, which a BW of 39 is dangerously close to.  That would be over 7 months from order to delivery!  Its all the worse because some of us are getting their cars in the next few weeks and Lisa still can't give a reason why some are being built now and others don't even have a BW yet... the familiar refrain of "DSG" is getting thin. :angry:

EDIT:
I actually cannot believe VW have a 7 month lead time on DSGs.  Its obviously not that.  I should have pointed this out to Lisa but I was coming to terms with the fact that yet again another week has passed yet my BW has been pushed back by another two weeks.  At this rate by November I'll be looking at an estimated 2015 delivery.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 13 June 2013, 12:27
Got an update from Lisa,

Apparently my estimated BW is changing a lot so she doesn't want to give me an answer that is invalid next week.  I pressed a bit and was told it is changing between 37 and 39.  Might come forward or might... (she left me to guess the last part).

Pretty disappointed to hear that, particularly the bit about 39.  I had been told 37 last time by my dealer, so I was hoping she was going to say something like it is varying between 30 and 36, not that what I was told by my dealer (which is already ridiculous) is now the "best case".

If when I ordered someone had said it would be October I'd have laughed in their face.  Not sure I can cope with it becoming November, which a BW of 39 is dangerously close to.  That would be over 7 months from order to delivery!  Its all the worse because some of us are getting their cars in the next few weeks and Lisa still can't give a reason why some are being built now and others don't even have a BW yet... the familiar refrain of "DSG" is getting thin. :angry:

EDIT:
I actually cannot believe VW have a 7 month lead time on DSGs.  Its obviously not that.  I should have pointed this out to Lisa but I was coming to terms with the fact that yet again another week has passed yet my BW has been pushed back by another two weeks.  At this rate by November I'll be looking at an estimated 2015 delivery.

Mine was originally wk37 then moved to wk42 now back to wk39!
Golf GTI - Often Copied, Never Equalled, Never Giving You a Confirmed BW! :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 12:29
Maybe this has something to do with the DSG problem reported yesterday Bear, and the recalls on certain gearboxes??

Either way its yet another slap in the face from VW for you.  7 months for a new car is a joke, its not a Ferrari!!  I'd just try to not let it bother you, it will be worth it in the end - it just doesn't seem like it at the moment.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 12:30
Mine was originally wk37 then moved to wk42 now back to wk39!
Golf GTI - Often Copied, Never Equalled, Never Giving You a Confirmed BW! :tongue:

What is really bloody infuriating is when a week passes and instead of being one week closer to picking up my new car I find I'm one week further from it!  The fact that VWUK seem completely unable to get an answer from Germany on what the hold us is just rubs salt in the wound.  Always blaming it on DSG is easy for them, but makes no logical sense to me.

EDIT:

Maybe this has something to do with the DSG problem reported yesterday Bear, and the recalls on certain gearboxes??

Wait, what is this?  Not heard this...

Has anyone who ordered a DSG got a BW earlier than 37?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 12:38
More VW BS:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motoring/vw-uk-no-dsg-recall-required
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 12:46
More VW BS:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motoring/vw-uk-no-dsg-recall-required

It says its specific to "temperate countries" then excludes the UK from requiring the recall.  I think they're confused about what "temperate" means.  Anyway, this is the 7 speed dry box, not the 6 speed wet one the GTI has.

Based on the "fast and fun" car rank in another thread perhaps I should cancel the GTI order and go for a Cayman.  By the time my GTI arrives I'll have saved enough for a Cayman anyway if it continues at this rate!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 13 June 2013, 12:46
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:

Me and You Both.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us!!! I'm checking my religiously on the hour....EVERY hour...  :grin:

So today's the day!  And my my status is......still processing  :rolleyes: :angry: :cry:

If it makes you feel any better mate, mine is still showing "Processing!".... No matter how many times I hit the 'Submit' button it's not making the slightest bit of difference!  :grin:

I'm horrified with the latest problems concerning the DSG box!!! Even though VW UK assure us its a problem associated with hotter & dustier environments I'm not convinced. I knew I should have stuck with the manual.  :sad: Glad to hear its the 7 speed and not the 6 speed though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 12:51
I'm horrified with the latest problems concerning the DSG box!!! Even though VW UK assure us its a problem associated with hotter & dustier environments I'm not convinced. I knew I should have stuck with the manual.  :sad:

You ordered DSG and were told to expect BW28?  Can't be my DSG that is delaying me to BW37-39+ then, like VW keep implying!!  FFS.

Also is it not 7 speed DSG that is the problem not the 6 speed in the GTI.  I wouldn't worry too much.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 12:55
I don't think there's a problem with the GTI DSG, but they have a problem with the other DSG boxes = delays in the factory, which therefore affects all our orders.

VW are saying the problems are climate specific.  So what they are saying is that the climate in New Zealand where there's been issues is different to the climate in the UK.  Which it isn't.  It's pretty much the same.  As I said, total BS.

Gung-Ho, I've been checking every hour - I'm now at the stage that every time I see 'Processing' I'm telling the screen to 'F7ck Off' - I think its making me lose my marbles!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 12:59
I'm now at the stage that every time I see 'Processing' I'm telling the screen to 'F7ck Off' - I think its making me lose my marbles!  :laugh:

I've been there for some time mate. :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 13:06
I'm now at the stage that every time I see 'Processing' I'm telling the screen to 'F7ck Off' - I think its making me lose my marbles!  :laugh:

I've been there for some time mate. :sad:

There should be some kind of focus group to deal with our problem!!

I've mixed it up a bit now, just looked again and this time it was a 'F7ck You' to the screen  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 13 June 2013, 13:10
I'm now at the stage that every time I see 'Processing' I'm telling the screen to 'F7ck Off' - I think its making me lose my marbles!  :laugh:

I've been there for some time mate. :sad:

There should be some kind of focus group to deal with our problem!!

I've mixed it up a bit now, just looked again and this time it was a 'F7ck You' to the screen  :smiley:

Patience pal  :smiley: Tomorrow will be the day  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 13 June 2013, 13:12
I think your confusing moaning & complaining with querying & wanting concise information. The last two are things I expect when spending 30 grand.

Either way Running Man I will continue my pursuit of answers should I be dicked around again regardless of any threats. My post was merely there for information should others complain instead of query.

I don't think I am Matchboy. People are moaning and complaining because they aren't getting clear and concise information.

Again I would say that doing so, unfortunately and as ridiculous as it is, still isn't getting us the information we want. Fair enough to you for pushing hard but as I said i'm just not going to get worked up about it, as like I said it's 'probably' not going to make a difference.

I must say though that as for customer service it's been pretty shoddy. Problem is I want my GTD too much, so it's not like I can threaten them with cancelling my order. I'll end up with a car I don't really want.

I'd also just like to add - I got my build week confirmed by my dealer at 38 yesterday. Which is mid September for a mid October delivery. On my order confirmation it states the estimated delivery date as 01.08.13.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 13:15
I must say though that as for customer service it's been pretty shoddy. Problem is I want my GTD too much, so it's not like I can threaten them with cancelling my order. I'll end up with a car I don't really want.

I do agree that there is no point cancelling, as they won't care and you'll end up with a car that isn't a GTD or a GTI - and therefore that we will just have to wait!  But some of the stories on here, even Bear's today, are outrageous - and not right.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 13:16
Patience pal  :smiley: Tomorrow will be the day  :wink:

I don't have any patience at the best of times lol! Ah well, all good things come to those who wait!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 13 June 2013, 13:40
Patience pal  :smiley: Tomorrow will be the day  :wink:

I don't have any patience at the best of times lol! Ah well, all good things come to those who wait!  :rolleyes:

Sorry to interrupt you and bear's 'love in' but I wanted to congratulate you on using your common sense and relaxing if only momentarily.  Well Done  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 13:42
Well.... I don't really see it as moaning and complaining.  I see it as letting off steam to people who will understand.  Ok, perhaps we have been straying towards complaining here.  But it is mentally hard to handle feelings of irritation without an outlet, and since VW don't seem to understand (Lisa is trying but still) the only way to put a smile back on my face is to make a post here and have someone agree!  Can't do that with VW as they DO think we're complaining.  :tongue:

I just wish they could give us some actual information rather than this "wait and see, might come forward, might go back, who knows?" stuff...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 13:54
Ah, Running Man, back again to troll the thread without actually answering any points directed at you over the last few days.  How we've missed you.  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 13 June 2013, 13:59
Ah, Running Man, back again to troll the thread without actually answering any points directed at you over the last few days.  How we've missed you.  :smiley:

Remind me what questions?   :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 14:06
Running Man: so people should just roll over and let VW UK and their dealers walk all over them and treat them like dirt?

You seem oddly passive when it comes to getting decent customer service and standing up for yourself as a consumer, not to mention a bit superior when you pontificate to everyone else about why they're in the wrong and why you're (always) right.  Why is that, precisely? 

People are spending £25000 or more on these cars - are they not entitled to be treated with respect?  Do you think that VW/a dealer throwing their toys out of their pram because of a few emails is acceptable?  Do you think that dealers should be allowed to ditch orders because they can't be bothered dealing with a customer who sends them an email asking why their build week moves seemingly every other day?  I get the impression you do, and that nothing the dealer can do is wrong in your eyes.  People want to be informed - what's wrong with that?

There's a reason why the UK consumer gets shafted by companies such as VW.  People like you are part of that reason.  But you don't see it, which is perplexing.

@RunningMan
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 13 June 2013, 14:13
Running Man: so people should just roll over and let VW UK and their dealers walk all over them and treat them like dirt?

You seem oddly passive when it comes to getting decent customer service and standing up for yourself as a consumer, not to mention a bit superior when you pontificate to everyone else about why they're in the wrong and why you're (always) right.  Why is that, precisely? 

People are spending £25000 or more on these cars - are they not entitled to be treated with respect?  Do you think that VW/a dealer throwing their toys out of their pram because of a few emails is acceptable?  Do you think that dealers should be allowed to ditch orders because they can't be bothered dealing with a customer who sends them an email asking why their build week moves seemingly every other day?  I get the impression you do, and that nothing the dealer can do is wrong in your eyes.  People want to be informed - what's wrong with that?

There's a reason why the UK consumer gets shafted by companies such as VW.  People like you are part of that reason.  But you don't see it, which is perplexing.

@RunningMan

 :whistle: mate, you'll get your car one day and when you have it, you may look back and realise you wasted a lot of time stressing over something that was out of your control and influence.  Relax.......deep breath...I'm worried about you.  Take care buddy  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 14:22
As pointed out pages ago my friend, I am not worried nor stressed & neither do I think I have wasted my time.  And even if I had, its my time to waste and I do with it what I please.

In fact, it could be pointed out that it is indeed you who has wasted his time, posting these negative comments that no one is listening to.  But to tell you what to do with your own time would be very arrogant of me, and I wouldn't possibly be so far up my own ar7e to do that.

So thanks for your concern, but I'm fine & dandy bud.  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 14:37
:whistle: mate, you'll get your car one day and when you have it, you may look back and realise you wasted a lot of time stressing over something that was out of your control and influence.  Relax.......deep breath...I'm worried about you.  Take care buddy  :wink:

:whistle: mate, you'll stop making these kind of posts one day and when you do, you may look back and realise you wasted a lot of time telling others how they should behave which is out of your control and influence.  Relax.......deep breath...Understand that your posts are coming across as patronising, and that is unhelpful.  Take care buddy  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 13 June 2013, 14:46
:whistle: mate, you'll get your car one day and when you have it, you may look back and realise you wasted a lot of time stressing over something that was out of your control and influence.  Relax.......deep breath...I'm worried about you.  Take care buddy  :wink:

:whistle: mate, you'll stop making these kind of posts one day and when you do, you may look back and realise you wasted a lot of time telling others how they should behave which is out of your control and influence.  Relax.......deep breath...Understand that your posts are coming across as patronising, and that is unhelpful.  Take care buddy  :wink:

This should be renamed Bear & Boy's forum :grin:

Relax boy's you clearly are listening to me  :whistle:

All the best boys anyway :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 14:52
This should be renamed Bear & Boy's forum :grin:

This must be some ingenious joke that I'm too thick to follow. :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 14:54
This should be renamed Bear & Boy's forum :grin:

This must be some ingenious joke that I'm too thick to follow. :undecided:

I think RunningMan is a sandwich short of a picnic so I wouldn't worry what he says Bear!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 15:08
Well I'm going to forgo posting anything further in this thread for today in the hopes that the situation will become de-flamed...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 13 June 2013, 16:47
I have ordered the winter pack also with cloth seats.  I looked on VW configurator today to check if it is still available with cloth seats.  It seems there are 2 options.  Winter Pack with Leather and just plain old Winter Pack.  So it seems you can get Winter Pack still with Cloth Seats. 

They really need to set in stone the options available in the UK and leave it at that.  Things keep changing all the time, I haven't even got my car yet. 

I am still on Build Week 34.  The week has not budged in a while since I was initially told Week 22 a month or two ago, so fingers crossed it stays at Week 34 or moves to an earlier date which I doubt. 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 17:03
So it seems you can get Winter Pack still with Cloth Seats.

Correct.  Although why anyone would pick winter pack with leather is unclear since all it gets you are heated washer nozzles, which are apparently useless because the supply lines to them are not heated and will become frozen anyway...  VW aren't in a hurry to explain this to customers though.  I had to explicitly point it out to my dealer who was happy to read out the description and price as if it was a bargain.  Was only when I asked why I should pay £350 or whatever the MY14 cost now is just for washer jets that they seemed to click that it might not be good value. :laugh:

They really need to set in stone the options available in the UK and leave it at that.  Things keep changing all the time, I haven't even got my car yet.

Agreed, its not like it would take them much time to fix it either!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 13 June 2013, 17:41
If you don't laugh you will cry.  I choose to laugh at the moment.  It is getting so bad now I am even waiting for the Jacky Keyring I ordered over a month ago from the VW accessories store.  It's a keyring which stated 10 days to deliver and I still have to wait for it this long after I ordered it (well over a month).  So everything I have ordered from VW I am waiting for with no idea of when it will be delivered, both car and keyring alike. 

Honda were not at all like this when i ordered the limited edition Type-R championship white. They only made 600+ and It was a breeze ordering and getting dates fixed as I ordered.  Then all I had to do was go in on the day and pick it up. Also it only took 3 months from order to delivery.

   
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 17:45
LOL, didn't know there was a delay on keyrings too!  Maybe they are saving delivering it until your car is ready...

Which one did you get?  Can't see a GTI keyring on the VW site.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 13 June 2013, 17:56
So it seems you can get Winter Pack still with Cloth Seats.

Correct.  Although why anyone would pick winter pack with leather is unclear since all it gets you are heated washer nozzles, which are apparently useless because the supply lines to them are not heated and will become frozen anyway...  VW aren't in a hurry to explain this to customers though.  I had to explicitly point it out to my dealer who was happy to read out the description and price as if it was a bargain.  Was only when I asked why I should pay £350 or whatever the MY14 cost now is just for washer jets that they seemed to click that it might not be good value. :laugh:

I would listen to bill, he is very knowledgable
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 13 June 2013, 18:30
I ordered the GTI Jacky Keyring.  However on you saying you could not see it anywhere, I just had a look online and....   

...Oh great it has now been taken off of VW Online Store.  Bloody marvellous.  I so want my GTI or anything I have ordered from VW but I am getting severely tempted to buy a Honda Type-R again next time after the GTI I have on order.  I have never known anything so vague. 

I am now going to ask for my money back from the VW store for the Key Fob and order it from USA. They have hundreds of the Jacky GTI Key Fobs in store.  Why is VW UK so ill equipped at present.  The GTI is such a potentially great car being tainted with uncertainty and vagueness of orders.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 13 June 2013, 19:01
I has to cancel my order today to. They are no longer making the product :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 13 June 2013, 19:13
It would be nice to have been told though.  If I hadn't checked today, I don't know when I would have been informed by VW Store.  When I emailed them last time they took almost a week to get back to me. 

I guess I will have to now just sit and wait to see if my car will appear on the date given by VW. 

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 13 June 2013, 19:34
Spoke to my dealer again today, it's now gone to prov week 40! :o 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 19:35
Spoke to my dealer again today, it's now gone to prov week 40! :o

Remind us what it was before...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 13 June 2013, 19:47
Spoke to my dealer again today, it's now gone to prov week 40! :o

Remind us what it was before...


Was 36 then 38 then 39 and now 40, he told me he'll e-mail them on monday when he gets in but they'll most likely fob him off, i asked if he'd heard anything with regards delays for any reason and he said no, he said it must be the PP but has no evidence to support that and said the system didn't say anything about a delay if the pack was added.


He told me to give them a call but don't expect much! ;D

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 20:04
I'm going to make a wild prediction now but I'm guessing from the stories posted today that all orders are being out back at least 2 weeks, probably 4. Brilliant.  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 20:09
Was 36 then 38 then 39 and now 40, he told me he'll e-mail them on monday when he gets in but they'll most likely fob him off, i asked if he'd heard anything with regards delays for any reason and he said no, he said it must be the PP but has no evidence to support that and said the system didn't say anything about a delay if the pack was added.

He told me to give them a call but don't expect much! ;D

Damn.  I thought it had come forward for a minute.

Also, since your spec is so similar to mine this does not bode well for me either!  I have a bad feeling about this...

EDIT:
Dave's is in transit now and he ordered PP...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 14 June 2013, 07:46

So are we expecting estimated week 28s to be confirmed today then?? May report in to my salesman this morning....  :drool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 14 June 2013, 07:52

So are we expecting estimated week 28s to be confirmed today then?? May report in to my salesman this morning....  :drool:

Have you checked the track my order website?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 14 June 2013, 08:29

So are we expecting estimated week 28s to be confirmed today then?? May report in to my salesman this morning....  :drool:

Have you checked the track my order website?

 :cry: Crap!!! No change.... I give up...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 14 June 2013, 08:32
I ordered the GTI Jacky Keyring.  However on you saying you could not see it anywhere, I just had a look online and....   

...Oh great it has now been taken off of VW Online Store.  Bloody marvellous.  I so want my GTI or anything I have ordered from VW but I am getting severely tempted to buy a Honda Type-R again next time after the GTI I have on order.  I have never known anything so vague. 

I am now going to ask for my money back from the VW store for the Key Fob and order it from USA. They have hundreds of the Jacky GTI Key Fobs in store.  Why is VW UK so ill equipped at present.  The GTI is such a potentially great car being tainted with uncertainty and vagueness of orders.

It's probably for best - the jacky key fob is way too big and bulky!  Plus the metal part gets scratched and also scratches stuff easily.  I want for a black rubber GTI keyring that shipped from Greece on eBay.  It's like the ED35 keyring, just not as spendy!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jrc193 on 14 June 2013, 08:37
Just checked website and build week confirmed this am.Ordered via Drivethedeal 21/05 and dealer has been spot on with his forecast that I would know this week with delivery in week28. As I have ordered PP and DSG neither seem to have affected progress
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 June 2013, 08:55
Just to update everyone on my GTD.

I called my dealer today to add the climate windscreen to my build. An hour later my sales guy called me back, saying that my car has been allocated a build slot, and unfortunately that they cannot make alterations at this stage. This falls in line with the courtesy call from him 11 days ago advising me it would be getting a build week soon.

My order tracker is still saying "Order Processing". So it might be that your guys' online tracker just hasn't been updated yet, as it seems mine hasn't.

My dealer told me a few weeks ago that orders are locked out for changes about a week before they will be seen as "build week confirmed" on the tracker.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Neil_MK on 14 June 2013, 09:13
Build week 28 here and order status had changed to 'Build Week Confirmed' when I checked early this morning  :cool:

To be fair my build week has remained fairly constant at week 28 (apart from going BW27 to BW28 early on) and my dealer has always been proactive in giving me weekly updates.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simoor on 14 June 2013, 09:15
Just checked this morning and mine is now "Build week confirmed", Placed my order at the end of March:

Type: GTI - DSG 3 Door
Colour: Oryx White
Options: Leather, Keyless entry
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 09:20

So are we expecting estimated week 28s to be confirmed today then?? May report in to my salesman this morning....  :drool:

Have you checked the track my order website?

 :cry: Crap!!! No change.... I give up...

Me too, so p!ssed off  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 14 June 2013, 09:23

Mines still not confirmed either even though I was build week 28 last friday... Dealer wil be getting a phone call soon!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 June 2013, 09:28
Got an update from Lisa,

Apparently my estimated BW is changing a lot so she doesn't want to give me an answer that is invalid next week.  I pressed a bit and was told it is changing between 37 and 39.  Might come forward or might... (she left me to guess the last part).

Pretty disappointed to hear that, particularly the bit about 39.  I had been told 37 last time by my dealer, so I was hoping she was going to say something like it is varying between 30 and 36, not that what I was told by my dealer (which is already ridiculous) is now the "best case".

If when I ordered someone had said it would be October I'd have laughed in their face.  Not sure I can cope with it becoming November, which a BW of 39 is dangerously close to.  That would be over 7 months from order to delivery!  Its all the worse because some of us are getting their cars in the next few weeks and Lisa still can't give a reason why some are being built now and others don't even have a BW yet... the familiar refrain of "DSG" is getting thin. :angry:

EDIT:
I actually cannot believe VW have a 7 month lead time on DSGs.  Its obviously not that.  I should have pointed this out to Lisa but I was coming to terms with the fact that yet again another week has passed yet my BW has been pushed back by another two weeks.  At this rate by November I'll be looking at an estimated 2015 delivery.

Definitely not DSG when there are cars like the one my dad is now getting that is DSG - they should look into what they are saying rather than making up an excuse that clearly isn't true on the hope you won't know any better.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 14 June 2013, 09:34

Week 32 now!!! Ggrrrrrrrrr!!! :cry:  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 14 June 2013, 09:38

Been told its the climate windscreen delaying it.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 09:54

Week 32 now!!! Ggrrrrrrrrr!!! :cry:  :cry:

BW32 is the first week after the 4 week factory shut down.  I'm going to call my dealer now as I'm expecting the same news.

Basically everyone has been bumped for whatever reason.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 14 June 2013, 10:17
"Double Crap!" :angry: This is getting Ridiculous!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 10:33
"Double Crap!" :angry: This is getting Ridiculous!!!

Have you been bumped too Gung-Ho?  My dealer is checking and will get back to me today. If I've been moved too, which I am expecting, ill be absolutely gutted.  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 14 June 2013, 10:59
I've sent my dealer an email this morning. Just waiting on reply?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 11:01
I've sent my dealer an email this morning. Just waiting on reply?

Squeaky bum time  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 11:04
As long as you're all right Jack....

http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/pressroom/volkswagen/pressrelease/view/vw-group-delivers-3-87-million-vehicles-in-period-to-may-876629
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 June 2013, 11:34
As long as you're all right Jack....

http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/pressroom/volkswagen/pressrelease/view/vw-group-delivers-3-87-million-vehicles-in-period-to-may-876629

European VW sales specifically are noticeably down, so there should be plenty of space to fit our GTI/GDTs into the schedule.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 14 June 2013, 11:39
Well for the first time my order number is not recognised. Something changing maybe?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 14 June 2013, 11:50
Well for the first time my order number is not recognised. Something changing maybe?

The only "Change" I'm getting at the moment, is "Short Changed"....  :grin:

I don't whether to Laugh or Cry at the moment  :cry:  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 14 June 2013, 11:53
Well for the first time my order number is not recognised. Something changing maybe?

The only "Change" I'm getting at the moment, is "Short Changed"....  :grin:

LOL seems that way. Strange that the GTD is delayed, I still think it's down to the engine,  SEAT, VW, Skoda and Audi need to meet their demands. Too many cars, not enough engines!

Also the GTD massively outsells the GTI due to it's rep-mobile status. (like me  :whistle:)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 14 June 2013, 12:13
I've sent my dealer an email this morning. Just waiting on reply?

Squeaky bum time  :laugh:

I don't know what's worse... Waiting for a reply from the dealer? Or waiting for my on-line order status to change? Both appear to take eternity!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 12:58
Ok, so instead of being confirmed BW28 today I've now been bumped to BW35. This is a f7cking p!sstake. To say I am livid is an understatement.

Way I'm feeling, this will be the last VW I ever buy.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 June 2013, 13:17
Ok, so instead of being confirmed BW28 today I've now been bumped to BW35. This is a f7cking p!sstake. To say I am livid is an understatement.

Way I'm feeling, this will be the last VW I ever buy.

Always happens when you buy a desireable VW at launch. Was lucky with my first Scirocco that it was a cancelled order allocation grab. There was probably someone who ordered it at announcement that was so pissed off with the wait.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 14 June 2013, 13:22
Ok, so instead of being confirmed BW28 today I've now been bumped to BW35. This is a f7cking p!sstake. To say I am livid is an understatement.

Way I'm feeling, this will be the last VW I ever buy.

That's shocking!! Did they provide you with an explanation as to why?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 13:24
Nope, nothing. I've got the executive office on the case, I at least want to know why. I'm now looking at an October delivery, instead of early August a month ago. Bunch of (unts.  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 14 June 2013, 13:30
Ouch.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 14 June 2013, 13:36
Nope, nothing. I've got the executive office on the case, I at least want to know why. I'm now looking at an October delivery, instead of early August a month ago. Bunch of (unts.  :angry:

Looking at your spec I can't see any reason for your order being delayed. I can understand why you must be totally pi$$ed off, I would be to.  :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 13:55
Yep, have got nothing fancy specced that would hold the order up. Completely disillusioned with this whole ordeal, I thought the mk6 was bad waiting till mid sep but this takes the biscuit. Nowt I can do though, I'll live in the knowledge that I'm not the only one who's being f7cked over by VW!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Whiteshirt on 14 June 2013, 15:00
Ok, so instead of being confirmed BW28 today I've now been bumped to BW35. This is a f7cking p!sstake. To say I am livid is an understatement.

Way I'm feeling, this will be the last VW I ever buy.

Not As bad as me was BW 25 now BW 36!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 15:26
I feel your pain Whiteshirt!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 14 June 2013, 15:53
:cry: :cry: :cry:

I'm fully expecting my order to be pushed back to week 40-42 soon.  At least this way if it stays at 37-39 or comes forward I'll feel good about it.

Far cry from the promised delivery of around wk30.  I suppose technically it wasn't "promised" but you don't expect to add 3 months to what was already a long wait without at least some sort of explanation.  Best they have come up with so far is "it might be the DSG" and as monkeyhanger pointed out that is BS.

We're just going to have to hang in there.  I've decided I'm still interested in the updates from Lisa every so often but I'm not going to push for an explanation or anything any more as it seems clear now they're not going to offer one, or if they are Lisa will tell me anyway.

I so want this car... VW Y U NO BUILD FASTER?????  November looks a long long way off...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Whiteshirt on 14 June 2013, 16:45
I feel your pain Whiteshirt!

Thanks but not as much as I do...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 14 June 2013, 17:28
Just got off the phone with VWUK to ask if there was any particular reason why my order has now gone to BW40? The answer was "all the GTI's will be allocated bw's together"  :grin:
I told him that i know of a few that are already being built and also a few that have confirmed bw's way before mine and have ordered the same time or later, he then changed the subject to "i have about 10~15 calls a day with the same sort of question" and "he" puts it down to the GTI being so popular! :grin:

He couldn't give me a straight answer apart from you can't order any colours other than those available in the UK. :cry:

I ask ya, what a bunch of numpties!!


Oh well, the wait continues......
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 14 June 2013, 17:34
Just got off the phone with VWUK to ask if there was any particular reason why my order has now gone to BW40? The answer was "all the GTI's will be allocated bw's together"  :grin:
I told him that i know of a few that are already being built and also a few that have confirmed bw's way before mine and have ordered the same time or later, he then changed the subject to "i have about 10~15 calls a day with the same sort of question" and "he" puts it down to the GTI being so popular! :grin:

What is with the changing the story when you caught him in the ... false info?  Was his first answer the VW official view, but he gave you a more frank answer... though not a more helpful one...?

And so it continues...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: George k on 14 June 2013, 17:40
There is a delay on DSG as it is the same gearbox used on all brands so the allocation of boxes when made is spread across all of them equally.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 14 June 2013, 17:42
There is a delay on DSG as it is the same gearbox used on all brands so the allocation of boxes when made is spread across all of them equally.

Ok, but even if true that doesn't explain why an order placed a month ago is to be built in a month, while orders placed 2 months ago have another 4 months to wait. What happened to first come first served?  I don't think dealer allocation can make up the difference here!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 14 June 2013, 19:08
VWUK on twitter announce the 30th million Golf rolled of the production line today. Pity they can't hurry up with our GTI's.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redpoppies on 14 June 2013, 19:10
I have read all your post with interest and thought it would be helpful if I added my experience so I have registered on your forum.

I ordered a 5 door DSG with leather and ACC on 10/4/2013. The order notification commitment date was 1/7/2013. The subsequent unconfirmed build week from the Dealer until last week was week 27. The unconfirmed build date from dealer today was week 39. The Dealer said they have not been ( presumably from VW UK) given any specific reasons as to why there are delays and that all dealers are in the same boat.

I will update whenever I receive a revised date.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 14 June 2013, 19:44
Ok, so instead of being confirmed BW28 today I've now been bumped to BW35. This is a f7cking p!sstake. To say I am livid is an understatement.

Way I'm feeling, this will be the last VW I ever buy.

Same as me build week 22 to 27 to 35 and all they can say is its because of the factory shutdown,I pointed out this was only 4 weeks not 13.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 14 June 2013, 20:40
The ironic thing is... When I sat down & placed an order with my dealer back in March, he was pretty confident that it would be a June delivery... Worse case scenario was July at the latest!  It couldn't be further from the truth.  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 14 June 2013, 22:32

Same here Gung-Ho.... And to top it off, after speaking to vw today who told me 32, and that they have no idea where my dealer got 28 from, I got an email from him this evening saying it was still 28 though not confirmed! So I really have no idea what the hell is going on!! Why would my dealer lie! As he's too embarrassed to tell me it's changed again for the worse? Part of me now really couldn't give a flying and just wants to forget about the car!! Argrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrhhhhh!!  :cry: :cry: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 14 June 2013, 23:25
That new Mercedes CLA looks awesome!  :wink:

Seriously though, it does, and I am tempted.  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 14 June 2013, 23:30
I have read all your post with interest and thought it would be helpful if I added my experience so I have registered on your forum.
Welcome! Join in the ...err...fun! :wink:

I ordered a 5 door DSG with leather and ACC on 10/4/2013. The order notification commitment date was 1/7/2013. The subsequent unconfirmed build week from the Dealer until last week was week 27. The unconfirmed build date from dealer today was week 39. The Dealer said they have not been ( presumably from VW UK) given any specific reasons as to why there are delays and that all dealers are in the same boat.
Sounds familiar.  I'm also 5dr DSG leather ordered in April, and now sitting pretty on wk39.

I will update whenever I receive a revised date.
Look forward to it, hope you get moved forward again as an early order no reason you should be waiting so long!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 14 June 2013, 23:40

Same here Gung-Ho.... And to top it off, after speaking to vw today who told me 32, and that they have no idea where my dealer got 28 from, I got an email from him this evening saying it was still 28 though not confirmed! So I really have no idea what the hell is going on!! Why would my dealer lie! As he's too embarrassed to tell me it's changed again for the worse? Part of me now really couldn't give a flying and just wants to forget about the car!! Argrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrhhhhh!!  :cry: :cry: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:

Yeah. It's a real kick in the "Knackers!"  Couldn't get a reply from my dealer today as he was off. Should in "theory" had a build week confirmation today as I was told week 28 like a lot of you here (I even saw the paperwork with Week 28 written on it, so I knew he wasn't trying to pull the wool over my eyes).

To be honest I don't blame the sales guy as he was only going by what VW UK & his procurement manager was telling him.  I was hoping for a July delivery at the latest as my MOT will need renewing in August & I don't reckon my tyres will last much longer... They're pretty much on the legal limit now.  I'll probably have to replace them if I'm looking at a September delivery.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 15 June 2013, 09:39
After being in a filthy mood yesterday, with a combination of utter disappointment and extreme anger, reading all your posts has calmed me down a bit. It's clear that for whatever reason we've all been pushed back. Why? Who knows. Ill do my best to find out though.

Bottom line is that there is nowt we can all do.  It's certainly taken the edge off my excitement however, instead of taking delivery in a few months it will now be September/October which feels like such a long way away (probably cause it is  :laugh:). Yesterday I was certainly wishing I'd gone for the A250 AMG instead as I'd probably have it by now. But it's not a GTI, so I'm still glad I didn't.

This forum is great therapy though, it at least helps with the knowledge that I'm not the only one being f7cked over! And it will be worth it when it does turn up - it just doesn't feel like it at the moment  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 15 June 2013, 10:53
This forum is great therapy though, it at least helps with the knowledge that I'm not the only one being f7cked over! And it will be worth it when it does turn up - it just doesn't feel like it at the moment  :sad:

Yeah... I know to some reading this thread, we all sound like a bunch of whinging old mothers, regurgitating the same old, same old moot point.  But without a place to vent my frustrations I'd probably have cancelled my order by now. Knowing everyone is in the same boat does make things easier.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 15 June 2013, 11:08
Has anyone who's build weeks have been put back had 'build week confirmed' on the VW tracker? Mine has been showing this for about a week but I have no clue what build week I have been allocated.  Which number should I contact VW on to find this out?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 15 June 2013, 11:20
This forum is great therapy though, it at least helps with the knowledge that I'm not the only one being f7cked over! And it will be worth it when it does turn up - it just doesn't feel like it at the moment  :sad:

Yeah... I know to some reading this thread, we all sound like a bunch of whinging old mothers, regurgitating the same old, same old moot point.  But without a place to vent my frustrations I'd probably have cancelled my order by now. Knowing everyone is in the same boat does make things easier.

Totally agree Gung-Ho - this forum has saved me from cancelling! If I'd home down the A Class route I'd of had it by now then switch over to a GTI next year when they're more freely available. It's too late now to do that so will have to put up with the delay but at least knowing others are in the same boat makes it slightly easier to bear.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jules Winfield on 15 June 2013, 11:24
Has anyone who's build weeks have been put back had 'build week confirmed' on the VW tracker? Mine has been showing this for about a week but I have no clue what build week I have been allocated.  Which number should I contact VW on to find this out?

You should be able to get this information from your dealer - in theory.

0800 0833 920 is the VW customer services number.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Dully on 15 June 2013, 11:40
Guys ...... The more I read all your problems the more I feel some Dealers just make it up as they go along, I also think that they are being led a merry dance by the factory so are probably in a very difficult position. I am not sticking up for them it's just an observation.

This is my situation -

I did not order when the books were first opened as the car is replacing the wife's beloved TT so she wanted to see one in the flesh before we shelled out 30k.

We test drove one last saturday, thumbs up from the wife, deal done on the TT, happy days until we were told delivery would be December earliest and could run in to 2014. Credit to the dealer, they could have just took my deposit and told me anything as I made it very clear that there was no deal at that sort of lead time.

We trawled through the ordering system and he showed me all the available cars I could spec up and they were all december build weeks.

Out of the blue the sales manager said that he had found an order in the system for a car made by their sister branch with a build week of 38. On investigation he confirmed it was an order for a car to stock and not a customer, status in the system was 10 so the spec could be altered. Not too sure how this other branch had not sold it as surely they must have had people making enquiries.

Anyhow, the car was a standard 3 door, red and all it had extra was keyless entry. I changed it to white with PP, ACC and leather.

The strange thing is, I went in yesterday to talk about finance and we checked the system and the build week has reduced to 35!!!!! The status is still 10 and he showed me the box below where the status will change to 20 and there is another date box which will be the confirmed build week.

I am only a week in to my order and will no doubt have more tales to tell!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 15 June 2013, 12:12
Welcome Dully!! Look forward to hearing your 'Woes' in the next coming Days... Weeks... Months.... Years!!!  :grin: Hope you have better luck than the rest of us.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 15 June 2013, 12:18
Welcome Dully!! Look forward to hearing your 'Woes' in the next coming Days... Weeks... Months.... Years!!!  :grin: Hope you have better luck than the rest of us.

Seems like he's already having better luck than the rest of us! :grin:

Welcome. :afro:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 15 June 2013, 13:59
Just had it confirmed from my dealer that I have been allocated build week 28, week beg 8th July.  Anyone have any idea how long it will take from this date to the car being delivered?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 15 June 2013, 14:06
Just had it confirmed from my dealer that I have been allocated build week 28, week beg 8th July.  Anyone have any idea how long it will take from this date to the car being delivered?

Upto 4 weeks.  Might be faster.

That's a good result for you, fantastically early build when did you order?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 15 June 2013, 14:49
I ordered Mid May.  So it's a beg August delivery for wk 28?  I had been told mid Aug when I placed my order so I am quite happy.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 15 June 2013, 14:56
I ordered Mid May.  So it's a beg August delivery for wk 28?  I had been told mid Aug when I placed my order so I am quite happy.

Not surprised if it's a dealer near the Western Isles. Supply and demand.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 17 June 2013, 15:53
So, just had a call from the very nice man at the VW Executive Office - and some good news at last! Finally, I have a confirmed build week of 33. Although this is 5 weeks from my BW28, because if the 4 week factory shut down its actually only a 1 week delay. He's had it confirmed from Germany that all stock parts have been allocated to my car - so I'm looking at a mid September delivery.

This is some welcome news given the unconfirmed BW of 35 I was given on Friday.  Excitement now ramped up to the max again, let the 3 month wait begin  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 17 June 2013, 17:03
So, just had a call from the very nice man at the VW Executive Office - and some good news at last! Finally, I have a confirmed build week of 33. Although this is 5 weeks from my BW28, because if the 4 week factory shut down its actually only a 1 week delay. He's had it confirmed from Germany that all stock parts have been allocated to my car - so I'm looking at a mid September delivery.

This is some welcome news given the unconfirmed BW of 35 I was given on Friday.  Excitement now ramped up to the max again, let the 3 month wait begin  :laugh:

When exactly does the factory shut down? If your was still BW28 that would have been built the week commencing 8th July therefore you would you not have received you car middle of August. It's my understanding that the factory shut down doesn't affect the shipment of the vehicle but I may be wrong
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 17 June 2013, 17:20
Factory shut down is from BW29 to BW32 inclusive.  So if mine had been build BW28 ie. the week before the shut down then yes it could have been shipped regardless of the shut down.  But its been moved to the first week after the shut down, so a 4 week minimum delay ie. mid Sep.  This is unfortunate as I obviously wanted it to be built earlier, but I'll take 33 as at least its confirmed now, and given the hassles I've had as have others 33 is as best a result as I could have hoped for!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 17 June 2013, 17:59
Factory shut down is from BW29 to BW32 inclusive.  So if mine had been build BW28 ie. the week before the shut down then yes it could have been shipped regardless of the shut down.  But its been moved to the first week after the shut down, so a 4 week minimum delay ie. mid Sep.  This is unfortunate as I obviously wanted it to be built earlier, but I'll take 33 as at least its confirmed now, and given the hassles I've had as have others 33 is as best a result as I could have hoped for!

Ok, understood. Well at least you now have a confirmed bw and also a nice clean factory for your car to be built in  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 17 June 2013, 18:01
Haha, good point!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 17 June 2013, 19:34
I still reckon BW33 cars may be ready for the very end of Aug/start of Sept.

If the "for sale" GTI in Benfield is anything to go by, that thing was delivered within 9 days of it's earliest possible build date for a genuine full UK MY14 car (start of BW22).

If my car is built in BW33 and is ready before the end of Aug then i'm waiting to Sept 1st, for the sake of a few days to get the new plate.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 17 June 2013, 19:44
I still reckon BW33 cars may be ready for the very end of Aug/start of Sept.

If the "for sale" GTI in Benfield is anything to go by, that thing was delivered within 9 days of it's earliest possible build date for a genuine full UK MY14 car (start of BW22).

If my car is built in BW33 and is ready before the end of Aug then i'm waiting to Sept 1st, for the sake of a few days to get the new plate.

I genuinely hope you're right as ill take the car ASAP, the Sep plate isn't what i want: as my dealer' plates start with LO, so in September the plate will be LO53 - which probably isn't the best plate for me given I'm an accountant!!   :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: George k on 17 June 2013, 19:57
It'll be LO63 :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 17 June 2013, 20:05
I still reckon BW33 cars may be ready for the very end of Aug/start of Sept.

If the "for sale" GTI in Benfield is anything to go by, that thing was delivered within 9 days of it's earliest possible build date for a genuine full UK MY14 car (start of BW22).

If my car is built in BW33 and is ready before the end of Aug then i'm waiting to Sept 1st, for the sake of a few days to get the new plate.

I genuinely hope you're right as ill take the car ASAP, the Sep plate isn't what i want: as my dealer' plates start with LO, so in September the plate will be LO53 - which probably isn't the best plate for me given I'm an accountant!!   :laugh:

 :grin: :grin: :grin: Snap! I'm an accountant as well. We'll be giving the GTI a bad rep.

p.s. remind me not to get you to do my books, as George K says LO63  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 17 June 2013, 20:35
 :grin: Typing on an iPad, slip of the finger!!  :whistle:

Who said accountants aren't cool?!  :cool: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redgolfgtd on 18 June 2013, 21:37
Ordered a Golf GTD Vii in Tornado Red supposed to be build week 34 delivery September fingers crossed !
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 18 June 2013, 22:00
Ordered a Golf GTD Vii in Tornado Red supposed to be build week 34 delivery September fingers crossed !

You'll need more than your fingers crossed  :grin: (only kidding mate). Keeping my fingers crossed for you too.... September sounds about the same time as me.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redgolfgtd on 18 June 2013, 22:04
I think you could be right am tempted to contact the dealer to confirm the dates, leasing sent me a email from them but may leave it a little while saves disappointment
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 19 June 2013, 16:23
Update for you chaps, I guess some of you may have just received a call as well!  Not really good news though.

Got a call from VWUK customer care, they don't expect any updates to my BW any time soon (by this I'm pretty sure they mean "confirmed" updates as they told me it bounces around on a daily basis last time we spoke, and clearly they are not calling me everyday to give an 'update').

So anyway, they say the dealer will know about changes before they do and will get in touch immediately.  Therefore they won't call me every week to tell me "no change".  I asked what their "feeling" was on when an update might happen, all I was told was 3-4 weeks before the BW.

The problem is that the BW is unconfirmed, so subject to sudden and random changes.  I can be sure of an update 3-4 weeks before, but that is 3-4 weeks before an unknown point.  Effectively this means there will be an update when there is an update. :angry: I was hoping they'd be more candid.  Something like "we expect the factory to have largely settled its scheduling in X many weeks time so you might get an update then."

Forever in limbo eh?

Oh yes, and they still don't know what the delay is with "these cars" (referring to mine and others who have contacted them I assume).  As we've noted here it is not the DSG or the sunroof, so there appears to be no logic to why some of us are soon to be built and others are facing 3+ more months before we even get a confirmed BW, let alone delivery!

Its frankly astonishing the degree of opacity they seem to have achieved in this process.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 19 June 2013, 16:57
 really disheartening isnt it when the dealer cant give you any info, i also cant get a timescale on my order, i put the order in the last week of march, still no news at all..
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 19 June 2013, 17:54
really disheartening isnt it when the dealer cant give you any info, i also cant get a timescale on my order, i put the order in the last week of march, still no news at all..

Mate you need to phone VW, end of march is earlier than most of our orders - give them a call.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 19 June 2013, 18:01
I ordered mine at end of march and was told build week 22, then changed to build week 34.  Although delayed I did get a timescale to anticipate the delivery.  I would also say give VW a call.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 19 June 2013, 19:39
Thanks for the update Bear... It's incredulous that in this day and age, we can get a Man on the Moon, but can't track a simple VW Order.... The long wait continues  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hobojim on 19 June 2013, 19:57
I don't think we can put a man on the moon anymore. Health and Safety executive say no.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 19 June 2013, 20:29
 :grin: :grin: Ok... Let me rephrase that... How is it we can catapult a small family hatchback onto the surface of Mars, but can't yet track a simple VW Order in Germany?  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hobojim on 19 June 2013, 20:56
:grin: :grin: Ok... Let me rephrase that... How is it we can catapult a small family hatchback onto the surface of Mars, but can't yet track a simple VW Order in Germany?  :grin:

Better  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 20 June 2013, 11:37
Mine is now on it's way. :smiley:

GTI ordered 2nd April. I was given an initial build week of 22, this then changed to 25 and stayed that way. Changed to confirmed about 4 weeks ago, now in transit.


Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 11:37
"HOLY SH*T!"..... Just checked the online tracker this morning & its switched to Order "CONFIRMED!" I keep pressing 'Submit' to check I'm not imagining things but its definitely saying 'Confirmed'.... I take back everything I've said.

(Just for those who don't already know, Order was placed on the 29.03.13 for 5dr DSG GTi in Pure White with PP, DCC & 19" Santiago's with Heritage)

Things are looking up! :smiley:

(Knowing my luck it was a glitch in the system & it reverts back to 'Processing' on Monday)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 11:51
If that's correct... I'm possibly looking at Build Week 29/30 (around the middle of July) hopefully before the factory shut down...

Dealer had originally envisaged build week 28, so they werent far out in their estimation.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 June 2013, 12:11
Good news Gung-Ho.

Build week should be 4 weeks from now.
 :drool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 12:22
Good news Gung-Ho.

Build week should be 4 weeks from now.
 :drool:

Thanks Bud..."Fingers Crossed!"
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 June 2013, 12:26
Brilliant news Gung-Ho!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 22 June 2013, 12:27
"HOLY SH*T!"..... Just checked the online tracker this morning & its switched to Order "CONFIRMED!" I keep pressing 'Submit' to check I'm not imagining things but its definitely saying 'Confirmed'.... I take back everything I've said.

(Just for those who don't already know, Order was placed on the 29.03.13 for 5dr DSG GTi in Pure White with PP, DCC & 19" Santiago's with Heritage)

Things are looking up! :)

(Knowing my luck it was a glitch in the system & it reverts back to 'Processing' on Monday)


I hate you! >:(




Only joking! Happy dayz mate! :afro:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 22 June 2013, 12:33
I keep pressing 'Submit' to check I'm not imagining things but its definitely saying 'Confirmed'


That's funny! But I can totally understand lol.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dirvy on 22 June 2013, 14:00
Just checked mine, magically it too has changed to build week confirmed. Things must be moving in Germany.

Ordered 29/3
Csg pana keyless winter .

 :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 June 2013, 14:15
Gung Ho, dirvy, what were your estimated BWs? Does this mean they have come forward for you guys?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dirvy on 22 June 2013, 15:45
Status on 5th June was estimated week 27 forward from 33
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 16:12
Gung Ho, dirvy, what were your estimated BWs? Does this mean they have come forward for you guys?

Mmmmm... Not really. As I'm sure you're already aware, it jumps around a lot... So its gone from 37... 27... 25... 28 and now 'Confirmed' as of today... Im gonna call the dealer on Monday, but if its true we're looking at four weeks from now which would be week 30 (or 29)??? Would you concur Bear?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 16:50
Status on 5th June was estimated week 27 forward from 33

Appears we both placed our orders at the same time (29.03) and have followed very similar build estimates, although our specs are very different.... Might be just a coincidence.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 June 2013, 18:15
Be aware chaps that the factory is shut for BWs 29-32 inclusive. So you may well get it built before then ie. 28 or after ie 33.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 20:05
Be aware chaps that the factory is shut for BWs 29-32 inclusive. So you may well get it built before then ie. 28 or after ie 33.

Thanks for reminding me Bud!!! :grin: This was exactly what I was afraid of... Week 30 is slam bang in the middle of refurb... I'm hoping mine is closer to the dealers original estimate of 28... It's gonna be a close call.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 22 June 2013, 20:09
Would it be better for them to be built before or after the shutdown? The workers will either be really looking forward to a holiday or really fed up to be back at work!! :D
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 20:13
Would it be better for them to be built before or after the shutdown? The workers will either be really looking forward to a holiday or really fed up to be back at work!! :D

Oh "Great!".... You're really instilling a lot of confidence in me.... Whichever way you look at it, it ain't Good!!! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 20:30
Those looking forward to their Holidays will be in the party mood and be "Drucking Funk"!!!.... and those returning from their Holidays will have partied themselves silly and still be "Butt Wasted!"....

So when my steering wheel is fitted upside down I'll know why!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 June 2013, 20:50
Worst build weeks will probably be during Oktoberfest...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 22 June 2013, 20:57
Worst build weeks will probably be during Oktoberfest...


This! ;D
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 June 2013, 21:01
Be aware chaps that the factory is shut for BWs 29-32 inclusive. So you may well get it built before then ie. 28 or after ie 33.

Thanks for reminding me Bud!!! :grin: This was exactly what I was afraid of... Week 30 is slam bang in the middle of refurb... I'm hoping mine is closer to the dealers original estimate of 28... It's gonna be a close call.

 :grin: this will cheer you up then - I reckon it's BW28 for you as I'm confirmed for BW33 ie first week back and mines still processing on the tracker - so by that reasoning yours will be built before the shutdown as yours is confirmed on the tracker - lucky s0d!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 June 2013, 21:06
Seriously though guys don't worry.
I've been on a couple of Wolfsburg visits and those people are so professional looking its unreal.
Totally calm and just look like they know exactly what they're doing.

A few bad haircuts mind.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 22 June 2013, 21:16
Just be concerned your car isn't built on a Friday.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 June 2013, 21:25
It takes 3-4 days from start to finish so most of us will have a Friday car.

They manufacture around 2000 cars a day  :nerd:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 June 2013, 21:47
Worst build weeks will probably be during Oktoberfest...

Oh great.

They manufacture around 2000 cars a day  :nerd:

And they can't squeeze in a few more GTIs to cope with the demand?  Seriously how many are they making a day?  Seems like 1/2000 is a uk GTI, can't they make it 2/2000... double production! :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 June 2013, 21:53
GTI production is always limited.

Keeps demand high :cool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 June 2013, 22:01
GTI production is always limited.

Keeps customers pissed off:cool:

Corrected :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 June 2013, 22:06
Ahh but happier when you have it :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 June 2013, 22:10
Yes :grin:

At that point limited production becomes a boon! Heh heh
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 22:13
Ahh but happier when you have it :smiley:

Unless its built on a Friday, or on the last week before factory shutdown or first week of re-opening  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: PARROTMAN on 23 June 2013, 09:31
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Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 23 June 2013, 10:15
You need to get your post count up to 10 then I can PM you.

bluefin is yours.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 23 June 2013, 11:46
You need to get your post count up to 10 then I can PM you.

bluefin is yours.

Email him instead. Click his email button :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 June 2013, 08:48
I do wonder when post shutdown builds (like mine) will update to "build week confirmed" on tracker. is it 4 calendar weeks prior to build or 4 production weeks prior to build? If it is the latter then BW33 people should be hearing in BW25 (as there are only BW's 26/27/28 before 33). So far i've heard nowt, but perhaps my build has been pushed back again to 34/35/36?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 24 June 2013, 09:29
I'm in the same boat as you monkeyhanger, I'm going to guess that the tracker is automated so it'll be BW29 before it switches to confirmed. Or not, knowing VW  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 June 2013, 10:23
BW25 was last week, we're BW26 now.  So, the updates should have happened.

Because each order is unique I guess there is a partially manual process before the tracker updates (which I agree with you should be automatic).  I'm guessing when they confirm they have all the bits someone flicks the order state over to some level which triggers the tracker to display BW confirmed.  So, if the people who arrange this are going to be 'away' during the shutdown then we may see the tracker not update during this period.  Am I speculating too much? :grin:

4 weeks shutdown sounds like a lot to me.  I'm doubting VW's suppliers do the same, anyone know otherwise?  The one that would be most interesting is the DSG manufacturer.  If they really are short of these as they claim is August a month to catch up with supply perhaps?

I still have to wait another 2 months after the end of the shutdown to get my DSG though. :cry: Unless they bring it forward, but I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 June 2013, 11:48
@Bear: 4 weeks shutdown does seem a massive amount. 2 weeks seems the norm for most manufacturing, 3 weeks is what Ford employees get at the Southampton Transit van plant (not this year - it is about to close), I think Nissan Sunderland also get 3 weeks. 4 weeks? Add in Christmas and bank holidays - do they get any days to take off of their own choosing?

If so they must get nearly as much time off as teachers do. If they're working CSP shifts then it could be argued that they get plenty of time off to do stuff every 8 day cycle and so don't need to have any "free choice" holidays.

I suppose admin that would update BW dates may not necessarily be off during the shutdown and so I may see my "build week assigned" status appear on BW29 when the production staff are all off. seeing as it hasn't happened before now.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 June 2013, 11:59
For their suppliers though do they even have a shutdown?  The assembly plant yes, but I don't think the component suppliers will do, maybe a week at Christmas since everyone will book holiday anyway...  Suppliers of nuts and bolts and all that crap don't need to close down to maintain their operation.  The DSG supplier might shutdown... I guess not though.  Anyone know?

I agree with you we have to assume the admin guys aren't off, or at least that the job is still being done.  You've got to constantly manage your suppliers and that takes up a lot of time of badgering and chivying and checking and rechecking as I'm sure a lot of us know.  There is no way they're gonna all be off and just have 4 weeks of maybe deliveries will arrive, maybe they won't!

So on that basis I'm guessing its likely the tracker will still be updated.  I'm assuming its probably automatic and basically just reflects information the supply chaps would be entering on the system anyway.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 June 2013, 12:05
Anyone that manufactures anything generally has a shutdown. There are some essential jobs that just can't happen during production and are too long or require too much preparation to be done over a weekend. Good planning and logistics will get around periods of non-production. Saying that, there won't be many places that take a whole 4 weeks off.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 June 2013, 12:13
Yes.  And no.

My own line of work is high tech manufacturing.  The two businesses I've worked for effectively do not have any shutdown, yet are working to tolerances and complexities many many times what VW are doing (we're talkng about nm, not µm  EDIT: actually even µm is probably a couple orders of magnitute smaller than VW look at :tongue:).

Now we tend to have a shutdown at Christmas, but this isn't really a shutdown, its just that too many people want holiday its better to close the whole plant than try to operate at 25% efficiency for 5 days.  In terms of actual shutdown operations, these are either done on weekends, last thing on friday... or most often in parallel with normal operations.

What I'm saying is I don't think any of VW suppliers will have a shutdown like VW do.  Probably not even 1 week.  In rare cases they might close production for a day, but having a scheduled annual shutdown, I don't think so.  But if anyone knows for sure it would be interesting.  The one case I'm not so sure about is the DSG supplier.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 24 June 2013, 13:37
My order has just changed to 'Build week confirmed' on the tracker. Was 27, then pushed to 32... (6 weeks away?) Going to call the dealer and see if they can see any change in build date (fingers crossed!) :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 June 2013, 13:43
My order has just changed to 'Build week confirmed' on the tracker. Was 27, then pushed to 32... (6 weeks away?) Going to call the dealer and see if they can see any change in build date (fingers crossed!) :)

Had to check mine. "Still processing".  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mjh_056 on 24 June 2013, 17:24
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/sns-rt-us-volkswagen-wolfsburg-golfbre95n0iz-20130624,0,1542421.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/sns-rt-us-volkswagen-wolfsburg-golfbre95n0iz-20130624,0,1542421.story) Looks like VW want to at least partially still produce during shutdown though imagine there is areas of essential maintenance that this time is set aside for
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 June 2013, 18:03
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/sns-rt-us-volkswagen-wolfsburg-golfbre95n0iz-20130624,0,1542421.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/sns-rt-us-volkswagen-wolfsburg-golfbre95n0iz-20130624,0,1542421.story) Looks like VW want to at least partially still produce during shutdown though imagine there is areas of essential maintenance that this time is set aside for

Article claims its a 3 week shutdown.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 June 2013, 18:23
three weeks is certainly more promising than 4 and if extra production is done maybe our build weeks will come down.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 June 2013, 18:33
three weeks is certainly more promising than 4 and if extra production is done maybe our build weeks will come down.
But if it was always a 3 week shutdown it'll make no odds at all.Trouble with planned shutdowns is that people do make holiday plans, then aren't interested when demand makes management want to have it worked. Happens in our place every year.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 June 2013, 18:49
maybe they'll take on loads of temp workers until the proper workforce get back to make mine haha  :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 24 June 2013, 18:53
VW Executive Office told me its a 4 week shut down.  Since when have hacks ever got details right in their articles!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 June 2013, 18:54
VW Executive Office told me its a 4 week shut down.  Since when have hacks ever got details right in their articles!  :rolleyes:

Aye, we should know that from the reviews!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 June 2013, 18:56
maybe they'll take on loads of temp workers until the proper workforce get back to make mine haha  :evil:

Wouldn't want an inexperienced temp building mine.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 24 June 2013, 18:58
VW Executive Office told me its a 4 week shut down.  Since when have hacks ever got details right in their articles!  :rolleyes:

Aye, we should know that from the reviews!

Totally!  I don't think there's a review yet for either the GTI or the GTD that hasn't got at least one error regarding the spec!  Too busy "reporting" on Kayne's new baby or making up a transfer rumour  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 June 2013, 21:16
VW Executive Office told me its a 4 week shut down.  Since when have hacks ever got details right in their articles!  :rolleyes:
Since when have we believed anything VW say especially VW UK!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 24 June 2013, 21:34
VW Executive Office told me its a 4 week shut down.  Since when have hacks ever got details right in their articles!  :rolleyes:
Since when have we believed anything VW say especially VW UK!!!

That's a fair point  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 25 June 2013, 00:30
The article doesn't just say 3weeks, it gives exact dates.  Call me an optimist, I'm going with 3 not 4! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 25 June 2013, 07:11
Build week that was confirmed yesterday and now showing on the tracker is still BW32. Well at least it's confirmed now :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 25 June 2013, 07:49
The article doesn't just say 3weeks, it gives exact dates.  Call me an optimist, I'm going with 3 not 4! :grin:

Not only does it name the dates, but given the fact that the shutdown ends on the 2nd of August, that implies to me that they only work Monday to Friday rather than a 24/7 CSP pattern. Makes sense I suppose, i'd be far more confident in a car that was build during dayshift than nightshift (if you ever got to know). I used to work CSPs and you aren't very productive in the night!

GtG's post would also imply that the shutdown is only for BW29-31 inclusive (3 weeks) seeing as his confirmed BW is on what would have been the 4th week of shutdown. Also, gettiing confirmed at this stage, 4 production weeks away from actual build (not 4 calendar weeks away) implies to me that my BW33 will be confirmed next week on the tracker if it hasn't slipped another week or 2 since I last checked.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 25 June 2013, 08:30
If GtG has it confirmed that his is BW32 it does imply that the VW Executive Offuce were indeed telling me porkies - shocker - but at least now with mine at BW33 it won't be the first week back from their hols  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 25 June 2013, 11:38

I'm wk33 now too matchboym, so fingers crossed it now stays that way. Went from 32 to 33 a week ago!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 25 June 2013, 11:44

I'm wk33 now too matchboym, so fingers crossed it now stays that way. Went from 32 to 33 a week ago!

There's quite a few of us at BW33 so that's a good sign, I think! Fingers crossed for all of us!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 25 June 2013, 13:42
My build week 26 jumped to 32 on Friday. Just had an email from the dealer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 25 June 2013, 13:45
My build week 26 jumped to 32 on Friday. Just had an email from the dealer.

sh!t.  Sorry for you man.  Did they give a reason?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 25 June 2013, 13:53
My build week 26 jumped to 32 on Friday. Just had an email from the dealer.

The dealer should've heard long before now about the delay, but that's quite a fall back (3 production weeks in reality (if you take the shutdown into account) - any recent order changes at your end?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 25 June 2013, 13:55
Well, my build week is confirmed now according to the online tracker.  I just called my personal contact at VW Customer Services Exec Office, and it is officially (currently!)...

32

So, w/c 5th August, and she told me that unless something major changes, there is no reason that should change.  Looks like delivery around the end of August then...only a couple of months now.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 25 June 2013, 14:01
I just hope all these BW32ers being bumped to BW33 aren't bumping my BW33 status to BW34.  :laugh:

Gryzor: If yours is at the dealership for Aug 28th, would you wait 3 days for the new plate or take it there and then?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 25 June 2013, 14:03
No spec changes and ordered in March. The dealer gave no reason only that he was shocked. I'm glad the value of my car is guaranteed. I'm quids in (think of the positives) :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 25 June 2013, 14:28
I just hope all these BW32ers being bumped to BW33 aren't bumping my BW33 status to BW34.  :laugh:

Gryzor: If yours is at the dealership for Aug 28th, would you wait 3 days for the new plate or take it there and then?

Well..I'm getting a private plate put on it, so from that point of view it makes no difference, and nor does it really affect the residuals.  Right now I'd say no, I'd pick it up as soon as possible.  But, if it came to it and I literally only had to wait 3 more days to officially claim it as a 63 plate car, I may think differently! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 25 June 2013, 14:33
But, if it came to it and I literally only had to wait 3 more days to officially claim it as a 63 plate car, I may think differently! :grin:

You're thinking like a miserly GTD owner there! :whistle:

If mine is built in week 33 it will be a close call - but if a 2 week delivery is possible/likely then i'll be in that boat and i'll wait (not getting a private plate - so that new plate feeling needs to be exploited  :evil:)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 25 June 2013, 15:18
32

Remind me what you were estimated before this confirmed came through?

People keep posting their new confirmed dates and I'm pulling my hair out trying to find what their estimates were to see if everyone is bumping forward or back the same amount! haha
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 25 June 2013, 16:58
I've had a couple of missed calls from my dealership today which i've returned and am just waiting for him to get back to me now, here's hoping although the tracker still says processing! :whistle:






Edit: he's just got back and it's gone to BW35 from 40 still unconfirmed but good news none the less!! :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 25 June 2013, 17:32
I've had a couple of missed calls from my dealership today which i've returned and am just waiting for him to get back to me now, here's hoping although the tracker still says processing! :whistle:

Argh!  I saw yor post James and thought, oh good, maybe I'll get an update soon too (since we have similar spec and BW).  Seems like everyone else has heard something recently be it the good news of their car being in transit, or the not so good but still good news of a confirmed BW around 33.

Well, just a few minutes ago I got an email from my dealer. :shocked:  Excitement begins to flow!  What wondrous, or terrible, things might be awaiting within this message?  I opened it... guess what?

My contact at the dealer wishes to inform me they are going on maternity leave.  Dammit!  I was expecting news!  NEWS! :angry:

Ah well, back to the endless wait then. :sad:

EDIT: Just say you jumped forward 5 weeks! Awesome bet you're pretty chuffed with that.  I emailed my new contact at the dealer to 'nudge' them.  They always say they'll let me know as soon as they know but its impossible to sit here knowing nothing while so many people are getting updates!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 25 June 2013, 18:08
Pretty pleased tbh, it basically means i should get the car just a couple of weeks later than i originally wanted it anyway which was the 1st of sept, assuming it doesn't move again that is but my salesman reckons it'll probably stay there now so fingers crossed! :smiley:

Need to start thinking about putting my reg on retention ready for the new one, i've already asked if he'll put my pressed plates on for me? :smug:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 25 June 2013, 18:17
Yeah that's what I want too... Just after 1st sept!  My dealer didn't get back to me and they will have knocked off for the day now.  I'm gonna be so fed up if everyone has moved forward and I'm the only one left on BW39-40.  They keep saying they'll know the instant there is an update and will tell me immediately but somehow I just can't trust it.  If everyone else is eating an update I can't believe I'm not getting one too! :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 25 June 2013, 19:13
If everyone else is eating an update I can't believe I'm not getting one too! :huh:

What does an update taste like then?  :wink: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 25 June 2013, 19:26
If everyone else is eating an update I can't believe I'm not getting one too! ???

What does an update taste like then?  ;) :-X


VICTORY!!! ;D
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 25 June 2013, 19:56
People keep posting their new confirmed dates and I'm pulling my hair out trying to find what their estimates were to see if everyone is bumping forward or back the same amount! haha

Haha!  Mine was week 38 estimated, brought forward to 32 estimated, then confirmed at 32.

VICTORY!!! ;D

Too right!  :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 25 June 2013, 20:42
If everyone else is eating an update I can't believe I'm not getting one too! ???

What does an update taste like then?  ;) :-X


VICTORY!!! ;D

Yeah great news Jimble!!! And not before time... Seems to be a lot of activity these past few days.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 25 June 2013, 20:54

Haha!  Mine was week 38 estimated, brought forward to 32 estimated, then confirmed at 32.


Is this change of fortunes GTI specific or do you think they may share the love with us GTD peons? I have an estimated BW38.  Would love to go down to 32!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: joet on 26 June 2013, 09:10
My status changed to 'In Transit' this morning! So looks like my dealers prediction of delivery in mid-July is looking spot on. Can't wait.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 26 June 2013, 10:03
Is this change of fortunes GTI specific or do you think they may share the love with us GTD peons? I have an estimated BW38.  Would love to go down to 32!

Who knows?  Fingers crossed for all of us mate!  Although reading around, it seems that week 32 is shut-down, so it may end up week 33, and then it could be a further 6 weeks after that before I get to drive it...  Oh well, at least something is in the diary!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 26 June 2013, 10:04
If everyone else is eating an update I can't believe I'm not getting one too! ???

What does an update taste like then?  ;) :-X


VICTORY!!! ;D

Yeah great news Jimble!!! And not before time... Seems to be a lot of activity these past few days.

Thats what i was thinking tbh, there does seem to be a lot of movement/confirmation all of a sudden!  :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 26 June 2013, 10:05
Thats what i was thinking tbh, there does seem to be a lot of movement/confirmation all of a sudden!  :huh:

Not at my end there's not!  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 26 June 2013, 10:07
Is this change of fortunes GTI specific or do you think they may share the love with us GTD peons? I have an estimated BW38.  Would love to go down to 32!

Who knows?  Fingers crossed for all of us mate!  Although reading around, it seems that week 32 is shut-down, so it may end up week 33, and then it could be a further 6 weeks after that before I get to drive it...  Oh well, at least something is in the diary!

I know VW say it can take 6 weeks but i don't think it's the norm, don't be so pessimistic! :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 26 June 2013, 10:08
Thats what i was thinking tbh, there does seem to be a lot of movement/confirmation all of a sudden!  :huh:

Not at my end there's not!  :cry:

Nor mine!

I expected to find an email from my dealer this morning since I dropped them one last night saying a lot of people are getting updates where is mine?  Nothing.  Not even an email saying no change, let alone one saying my BW has come forward 5 weeks like I'm secretly hoping it has! :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 26 June 2013, 10:17
I expected to find an email from my dealer this morning since I dropped them one last night saying a lot of people are getting updates where is mine?  Nothing.  Not even an email saying no change, let alone one saying my BW has come forward 5 weeks like I'm secretly hoping it has! :sad:

Call VW Exec Customer Service on 0844 375 4625 and see if they can help.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 26 June 2013, 10:32
I expected to find an email from my dealer this morning since I dropped them one last night saying a lot of people are getting updates where is mine?  Nothing.  Not even an email saying no change, let alone one saying my BW has come forward 5 weeks like I'm secretly hoping it has! :sad:

Call VW Exec Customer Service on 0844 375 4625 and see if they can help.

Thanks thats a good idea.  However, I had been talking to Lisa at VWUK and last week she basically said she can't tell me anything more than the dealer, who will know things first anyway so no point in doing anything but waiting for my dealer to update me.  I might give in and try it though!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 26 June 2013, 10:41
Can't hurt to try mate.  I've just found my contact there far more cooperative and helpful, and regularly called me and sent me texts.  From my dealer, nothing, and I surprised them by asking for details on delivery times now my build date has been confirmed...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 26 June 2013, 11:40
Phoned that number and mine has moved a week forward to provisional 35, better than going backwards I suppose.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: peterdoherty on 26 June 2013, 11:52
Just spoke to VW on the above number. They were a bit curious as to how I got the number but more than happy to help.

I've an unconfirmed BW38 (retailer said it would be an Oct/early Nov delivery but wouldn't give a BW) so no change either way for me.

Ordered mid May (GTD).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 26 June 2013, 12:03
Just emailed VW to find out why I have gone from unconfirmed week 22 TO 26 TO 35,first time I have chased it up but after 12 weeks of waiting i am still none the wiser and I am losing patience now. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 26 June 2013, 12:07
BW35 keeps coming up a lot.  Is it wishful thinking to hope I'm gonna come forward from 39/40 to 35 like Jimble has? :evil:  BW35 was roughly what I originally hoped for, just after the 63 plate.  And it would be a reasonable date, long wait but justified.  I don't see how BW40 can be considered reasonable in any way.

Come on VW, give me a heads up!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 26 June 2013, 12:29
At the early stages of ordering, did they consider the impact of the shutdown? It seems that the biggest losers in the revised timings are those that were always post-shutdown or becaume post shutdown after order amendments. Maybe pre-shutdown building is behind shedule, bumping us all back?

I guess we'll never know, but for Bill, an early confirmation of BW39/40 seems ridiculous unless he's order no 5 or 6 in a strictly adhered to allocation queue at his supplying dealership.

I haven't had the will to check the status of mine, but TBH i'm not really bothered, my Scirocco has really perked up in the warmer weather recently, it's like a different car right now. I will probably ask for a status update when I go to the dealership to see my dad's car.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 26 June 2013, 12:35
I've been notified today that mine has moved forward again to BW35 after slipping to BW37 a couple of weeks ago. Sounds like BW35 is going to be a busy week!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 26 June 2013, 12:36
You could be right, well, it fits with my situation anyway and I think for simonpolly too.

Simonpolly's move from 22 to 26 I think indicates delays with all builds.  22 was always optimistic but putting back to 26 is probably because everything got shoved back around the 22 point.  His further change to 35 is extreme, but could partially be due to shutdown.

Meanwhile I started out with a "July/August" delivery, but "might come forward".  This would fit with not taking shut down into account.  After shutdown was factored in I ended up at 36.  That is a push back of 6-8 weeks so shutdown plus early delays fits.  Moving to 39/40 later is unexplained.  If I moved back to 35 (still hoping) it would reverse that unexplained delay.

EDIT:
I've been notified today that mine has moved forward again to BW35 after slipping to BW37 a couple of weeks ago. Sounds like BW35 is going to be a busy week!!

Right, thats it.  I'm emailing my dealer again!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 26 June 2013, 13:11
Personally I think we should have a forum jolly down to VW UK and kick some ass.i`ll arrange the bus ,Golf Gti Jolly Boys outing 2013   :grin:
http://youtu.be/2eaEBJ3Udkk
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 26 June 2013, 13:16
Personally I think we should have a forum jolly down to VW UK and kick some ass.i`ll arrange the bus ,Golf Gti Jolly Boys outing 2013   :grin:
http://youtu.be/2eaEBJ3Udkk

Haha! Very appropriate that they had "Help!" playing!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 26 June 2013, 13:24
Just had a phonecall from my dealer to tell me about my dad's car. It hasn't been put on a ship yet. Apparently VW can leave it sitting at dockside for up to 10 working days before they'd escalate it as an issue, although he's received some cars lately which have literally been on a ship within 36 hours of leaving Wolfsburg. Hopefully it'll be on the next one. He was able to tell me that my car hasn't moved from BW33 and mcmaddy's has come back to BW34 from being at BW34 then shifting to BW35. It does seem that some forward movement can happen, but not by much.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 26 June 2013, 13:27
It does seem that some forward movement can happen, but not by much.

Yeah, now that VW seem to have got their act together, I'm sure some forward and backward movement can be expected as they optimise their manufacturing logistics.  Really hoping my confirmed build doesn't slip back from week 32, but no guarantees!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 26 June 2013, 13:29
Just had a phonecall from my dealer to tell me about my dad's car. It hasn't been put on a ship yet. Apparently VW can leave it sitting at dockside for up to 10 working days before they'd escalate it as an issue, although he's received some cars lately which have literally been on a ship within 36 hours of leaving Wolfsburg. Hopefully it'll be on the next one. He was able to tell me that my car hasn't moved from BW33 and mcmaddy's has come back to BW34 from being at BW34 then shifting to BW35. It does seem that some forward movement can happen, but not by much.

So what kind of delivery date are you looking at now for your dad's car?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 26 June 2013, 13:48
So what kind of delivery date are you looking at now for your dad's car?

Depends on the ship it's on. Emden to Port of Tyne is around 24 hours judging by "city of Amsterdam" movements. Next ship from Emden to port of Tyne is "City of Rome", arriving at Emden tomorrow and expected at port of Tyne at midday on Friday. Could be Mon-Weds next week if it gets on that ship.

So, the next ship after "City of Rome" that is for Emden to port of Tyne? Unsure, I can only see scheduled arrivals/departures to 02 Jul and there are no more I can see in the schedule, so it'll be a wait if it's not on the next ship.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 26 June 2013, 16:34
Strange !!!

My GTD should be getting built this week.

However, the tracker, now does not recognise my order number.

I have been checking all day and showed my order as confirmed bw, and now all of a sudden, it no longer sees my order number.

Hmm
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: peterdoherty on 26 June 2013, 16:35
Strange !!!

My GTD should be getting built this week.

However, the tracker, now does not recognise my order number.

I have been checking all day and showed my order as confirmed bw, and now all of a sudden, it no longer sees my order number.

Hmm

Trackers not working for me either (BW38) - nothing to worry about as it seems to happen a lot - will recognise it again in a few hours
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 26 June 2013, 16:39
Strange !!!

My GTD should be getting built this week.

However, the tracker, now does not recognise my order number.

I have been checking all day and showed my order as confirmed bw, and now all of a sudden, it no longer sees my order number.

Hmm

Trackers not working for me either (BW38) - nothing to worry about as it seems to happen a lot - will recognise it again in a few hours

Cheers,

Was about to hang myself!!!! Again
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: joet on 26 June 2013, 16:46
This seems to happen just before an update. Happenned to me last night and lo and behold this morning it had changed from build week confirmed to in transit. So fingers crossed, you might have an update tomorrow.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 26 June 2013, 16:57
Dealer still hasn't returned my email.

I'm beginning to have a sinking feeling about everyone moving to BW35 except me (and matchboy).  I added 5yr warranty a couple of weeks back.  At the time it did occur to me that this is a change and so might affect my BW but this is what the dealer said:

Quote
"I wouldn’t think that amending this item will amend the build week as it isn’t an option that is physically going onto the vehicle."

I hope my trust in this statement was not misplaced!  Would be painful to see everyone moving forward about a month and a half only to find I've not moved, or worse have moved backward, simply because I added warranty! :cry:

Match, you didn't also add warranty recently did you?  Or any other change for that matter?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 26 June 2013, 17:01
Nope, I've not changed mine since order day. No need for extended warranty either as will change after 3 years. May add the service pack though as that seems good value, sure I did that last time and you can pay on a monthly DD too.

I reckon they know its our cars Bear and cause we've given them jip they're doing it on purpose  :cry:

Tracker is down - I expect it to update and work in an hour or two with the usual outcome - everyone else's order updates apart from mine  :sad:

Starts playing the world's smallest violin
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 26 June 2013, 17:11
I did that last time and you can pay on a monthly DD too.

WUT?  FFS they told me no monthly payments, can only do upfront!

- mumble grumble VW wossnames... -
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 26 June 2013, 17:14
This was last time Bear so in 2009 - it may have changed now??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 26 June 2013, 17:46
Dont even have a predicted BW  :cry:
So suspect i might be like you gents and seemingly back of the queue or atlewst not moving forward in terms of build week or even getting an update. Not been waiting quite as long as long as you guys but still seemingly get no details from dealer on email or info offered to me without prompting them with a call irect to the salesman  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 26 June 2013, 19:02
Tracker is back on chaps. Still processing woo hoo! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 26 June 2013, 19:49
All of a sudden mine is not recognised on the tracker  :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 26 June 2013, 20:01
All of a sudden mine is not recognised on the tracker  :huh:

Yeah mine is the same. That happens every so often.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 26 June 2013, 20:35
you can pay your service pack by monthly direct debit.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 26 June 2013, 20:50
All of a sudden mine is not recognised on the tracker  :huh:

Yeah mine is the same. That happens every so often.

Yup, mine too! :cry: maybe it's like the Matrix and somethings changing! :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: physio on 26 June 2013, 20:57
its not recognising my tracker number  either   :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 26 June 2013, 23:46
Or mine!  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 26 June 2013, 23:52
Or mine!  :angry:

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Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 June 2013, 00:09
 :grin: :grin: I didn't know you had a camera in my house!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 27 June 2013, 10:16
you can pay your service pack by monthly direct debit.

Really?  Are you doing this?

My dealer specifically said no when I asked, but I don't really trust them.  If I know someone else has been told they can pay be direct debit then I'll have another go at them.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 27 June 2013, 10:54
Im not as my current car is on VW finance but its splashed all over the VW dealers showroom and website up here. Ask in the service department not from sales. every other manufacturer does it monthly.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: allycat45 on 27 June 2013, 10:57
I was a little worried that the tracker stopped recognising my order number yesterday, but after reading some of the comments on here that the system might be refreshing I relaxed a little and so was hoping to see a "Build Week Confirmed" status today. It is recognised again today but, of course, I am still getting my paperwork stamped on "Processing Your Order".  :cry: :cry:

Can any of you guys tell me how long it takes on average (if there is an average), for an order to change from "Processing Your Order" to "Build Week Confirmed" ? I put in my replacement order two weeks ago and was hoping to have a confirmed week number by now. I will be asking the Dealer, but you know I will get more sense here ! Also can someone confirm if the week numbers are the standard calendar week numbers and not something weird i.e. Week 1 is first week of January ?

Can anyone post a screenshot of what you see when it does move to "Build Week Confirmed" (with your order number blurred out is necessary) ? At the moment all I see is the Car, Colour and Upholstery details. Was worried that it might come with Titan Black but Dealer assures me it will be Jacaro Red (got it in writing just in case)

cheers
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 27 June 2013, 11:02
I was a little worried that the tracker stopped recognising my order number yesterday, but after reading some of the comments on here that the system might be refreshing I relaxed a little and so was hoping to see a "Build Week Confirmed" status today. It is recognised again today but, of course, I am still getting my paperwork stamped on "Processing Your Order".  :cry: :cry:

Can any of you guys tell me how long it takes on average (if there is an average), for an order to change from "Processing Your Order" to "Build Week Confirmed" ? I put in my replacement order two weeks ago and was hoping to have a confirmed week number by now. I will be asking the Dealer, but you know I will get more sense here ! Also can someone confirm if the week numbers are the standard calendar week numbers and not something weird i.e. Week 1 is first week of January ?

Can anyone post a screenshot of what you see when it does move to "Build Week Confirmed" (with your order number blurred out is necessary) ? At the moment all I see is the Car, Colour and Upholstery details. Was worried that it might come with Titan Black but Dealer assures me it will be Jacaro Red (got it in writing just in case)

cheers

Cat:
There is no average.  It changes to BW confirmed approximately 4 weeks before your car is built.  Because of the long delays after placing an order this could be many weeks before it changes.  e.g. if you have to wait 20 weeks, that is 16 of sitting at processing.  Hopefully it won't be that bad for you though!

Week numbers are standard calendar weeks.

I could get a screen cap but I don't think it is needed.  All that happens is the next graphic starts to be animated.  No more info is divulged, certainly it doesn't give any dates, so unless you check it every day you won't even know when it started to go BW confirmed and therefore when to expect it to be built.  However, your dealer would know so you could ask them.

Ignore Titan black, its same for all GTI/GTDs.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 27 June 2013, 11:12
I was a little worried that the tracker stopped recognising my order number yesterday, but after reading some of the comments on here that the system might be refreshing I relaxed a little and so was hoping to see a "Build Week Confirmed" status today. It is recognised again today but, of course, I am still getting my paperwork stamped on "Processing Your Order".  :cry: :cry:

Can any of you guys tell me how long it takes on average (if there is an average), for an order to change from "Processing Your Order" to "Build Week Confirmed" ? I put in my replacement order two weeks ago and was hoping to have a confirmed week number by now. I will be asking the Dealer, but you know I will get more sense here ! Also can someone confirm if the week numbers are the standard calendar week numbers and not something weird i.e. Week 1 is first week of January ?

Can anyone post a screenshot of what you see when it does move to "Build Week Confirmed" (with your order number blurred out is necessary) ? At the moment all I see is the Car, Colour and Upholstery details. Was worried that it might come with Titan Black but Dealer assures me it will be Jacaro Red (got it in writing just in case)

cheers

I think your being a bit optomistic hoping for a confirmed BW after 2 weeks unless it's a cancelled order that your dealer has picked up?

Week numbers can be found here if needed:

http://www.epochconverter.com/date-and-time/weeknumbers-by-year.php


Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 27 June 2013, 11:35
Just had an update from my dealer, no update and still the delayed build week.

But he did say that a lot of cars are coming through faster than expected (But didn't say that included GTI's - just "Cars").

I've managed to go a good week without looking at the "Processing your order" page.  I've begun to be able to put it to the back of my mind and forget that I am getting a new car.

In the mean time, this just popped up:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=27979
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 27 June 2013, 12:01
I was a little worried that the tracker stopped recognising my order number yesterday, but after reading some of the comments on here that the system might be refreshing I relaxed a little and so was hoping to see a "Build Week Confirmed" status today. It is recognised again today but, of course, I am still getting my paperwork stamped on "Processing Your Order".  :cry: :cry:

Can any of you guys tell me how long it takes on average (if there is an average), for an order to change from "Processing Your Order" to "Build Week Confirmed" ? I put in my replacement order two weeks ago and was hoping to have a confirmed week number by now. I will be asking the Dealer, but you know I will get more sense here ! Also can someone confirm if the week numbers are the standard calendar week numbers and not something weird i.e. Week 1 is first week of January ?

Can anyone post a screenshot of what you see when it does move to "Build Week Confirmed" (with your order number blurred out is necessary) ? At the moment all I see is the Car, Colour and Upholstery details. Was worried that it might come with Titan Black but Dealer assures me it will be Jacaro Red (got it in writing just in case)

cheers

My 'processing' has been on-going since the 15th of May, so 6 weeks and no change. Best to check it once a week, that way you won't get too down hearted.

I expect 'processing' to change around the end of July though. That would make it 10 or 11 weeks since order?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 June 2013, 12:21
Im not as my current car is on VW finance but its splashed all over the VW dealers showroom and website up here. Ask in the service department not from sales. every other manufacturer does it monthly.

I was on VW Finance and I still could pay for the service on DD - you need to push them on this Bear!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 27 June 2013, 12:39
You can have your service pack on your financed total for the , just as if it was an option like metallic paint etc. You'll be paying interest on it as per the car, or take the cost of it out of your deposit/equity (from the p/x) and pay for it outright. Driving a GTD instead of a GTI I can just add up a few months fuel savings to buy it outright!  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 June 2013, 12:49
You can have your service pack on your financed total for the , just as if it was an option like metallic paint etc. You'll be paying interest on it as per the car, or take the cost of it out of your deposit/equity (from the p/x) and pay for it outright. Driving a GTD instead of a GTI I can just add up a few months fuel savings to buy it outright!  :whistle:

 :grin: That made me laugh!

This is a few years ago, but I paid for my service part separately - there may have been some interest (can't remember) but it would have been minimal.  So I had two DD's, one for the car and one for the service.  I don't know if they still do this though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 27 June 2013, 13:00
Ok, well I'm not financing through VW, I'm paying outright.  They implied if it was a finance deal then things would be different.  What I asked was could the service pack and/or extended warranty be paid for monthly (like with my current car).  They responded to say no "optional extras" could be paid for monthly.

This is typical of their responses and yet again leaves me with little confidence they have understood the question or given an accurate answer.  Thinking about it I'm not sure any answer they've given my thus far has been accurate on the first attempt.  Its usually two or three "clarifying" questions from me later before they trig what I'm asking.  Examples are when they thought my request for an "update on the estimated BW" was me questioning if they had actually ordered it, when I asked what SD cards were compatible with the Pro Nav and was told nav maps come preloaded... :huh: or when I asked for details on the extended warranty and they just restated the price.

I'm gonna have to go back to them on this one as well I see!  VW Listers are not scoring very well so far.  Service is hugely less impressive than I had from Ford on my last car. :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 June 2013, 13:15
I'd go back to them Bear.  It's not an optional extra, its a service pack.  There is literally no reason why it can't be paid for on DD - that's why people do DD's in order to spread the cost instead of outlaying all in one hit - I'm guessing they just haven't understand you as they sound like numptys.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 27 June 2013, 13:17
Bill: I suppose if you're not financing the car it may be more difficult to finance the service pack - they just won't think it's worth their while to give you a £369 loan. It's good to be able to avoid the VW finance if you've got the readies or get a loan elsewhere at a cheaper APR (not an option for me, nowhere is cheaper than VW's APR right now for the £20k finance i'll be wanting - all the cheap loans seem to top out at £15k). The servicing drops from £369 to £249 with finance.

Either way, a change in policy will be down to VWUK/VW finance and not the dealership, but the dealerships do seem to know less about the products we're selling than we do. Nearly every dealer I have spoken to in the past doesn't know how the loan works e.g. high GFV and low repayments means paying more interest over a longer period, so VW make more interest.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 27 June 2013, 13:34
Bill: I suppose if you're not financing the car it may be more difficult to finance the service pack - they just won't think it's worth their while to give you a £369 loan. It's good to be able to avoid the VW finance if you've got the readies or get a loan elsewhere at a cheaper APR (not an option for me, nowhere is cheaper than VW's APR right now for the £20k finance i'll be wanting - all the cheap loans seem to top out at £15k). The servicing drops from £369 to £249 with finance.

Either way, a change in policy will be down to VWUK/VW finance and not the dealership, but the dealerships do seem to know less about the products we're selling than we do. Nearly every dealer I have spoken to in the past doesn't know how the loan works e.g. high GFV and low repayments means paying more interest over a longer period, so VW make more interest.
The service pack isnt a loan. Its a monthly direct debit paid up front that covers you for servicing. Its stand alone from finance so they obviously dont know what they are talking about. Speak to the service department they will know.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 June 2013, 13:35
Speak to the service department they will know.

This.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 27 June 2013, 13:42

I'm getting mine on 3 yr PCP, and they chucked in SMT for free as part of the deal, also added PP for free too. Feel I got quite a good deal!! Now if I could just get my car as my roco is going to need 4 new tyres soon!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: allycat45 on 27 June 2013, 14:12
I was a little worried that the tracker stopped recognising my order number yesterday, but after reading some of the comments on here that the system might be refreshing I relaxed a little and so was hoping to see a "Build Week Confirmed" status today. It is recognised again today but, of course, I am still getting my paperwork stamped on "Processing Your Order".  :cry: :cry:

Can any of you guys tell me how long it takes on average (if there is an average), for an order to change from "Processing Your Order" to "Build Week Confirmed" ? I put in my replacement order two weeks ago and was hoping to have a confirmed week number by now. I will be asking the Dealer, but you know I will get more sense here ! Also can someone confirm if the week numbers are the standard calendar week numbers and not something weird i.e. Week 1 is first week of January ?

Can anyone post a screenshot of what you see when it does move to "Build Week Confirmed" (with your order number blurred out is necessary) ? At the moment all I see is the Car, Colour and Upholstery details. Was worried that it might come with Titan Black but Dealer assures me it will be Jacaro Red (got it in writing just in case)

cheers

My 'processing' has been on-going since the 15th of May, so 6 weeks and no change. Best to check it once a week, that way you won't get too down hearted.

I expect 'processing' to change around the end of July though. That would make it 10 or 11 weeks since order?

Thanks for the info guys. I'll see if I can break the OCD habit of firing up the web browser every half hour to check then !  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 27 June 2013, 14:29
Thanks for the info guys. I'll see if I can break the OCD habit of firing up the web browser every half hour to check then !  :laugh:

Do what I did and leave it two or three weeks!  Mine went from "Processing" to "Build Week Confirmed" in the space of two causal site visits!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: phil_790 on 28 June 2013, 08:01
Hi all,

I got a call from my dealer yesterday to say that I have a confirmed build week of 33. I had given up checking the track my order, now it's showing as confirmed...starting to get really excited, but also think i might miss my scirocco a bit.

Cheers,
Phil
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 28 June 2013, 08:14
Hi all,

I got a call from my dealer yesterday to say that I have a confirmed build week of 33. I had given up checking the track my order, now it's showing as confirmed...starting to get really excited, but also think i might miss my scirocco a bit.

Cheers,
Phil
That's 6 weeks in advance not the normal 4, maybe due to the shutdown period.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: phil_790 on 28 June 2013, 08:22
I thought it was a bit soon to be confirmed, but I was so surprised that I forgot to ask why it was confirmed so early...not that I am complaining!
Cheers,
Phil
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 June 2013, 08:59
Well f7ck my old boots and call me Shirley, the tracker now says 'Build Week Confirmed.'

I am in a state of shock!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 June 2013, 09:02
Well f7ck my old boots and call me Shirley, the tracker now says 'Build Week Confirmed.'

I am in a state of shock!  :laugh:

Me too!

BW33 I assume matchboy? It does seem that Thursday is the day of major weekly updates - my dad's was confirmed on a Thursday.

It would seem then the the tracker is updating 4 build weeks earlier than build rather than 4 calendar weeks, taking the 3 week shutdown into account.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 June 2013, 09:05
Well f7ck my old boots and call me Shirley, the tracker now says 'Build Week Confirmed.'

I am in a state of shock!  :laugh:

Me too!

BW33 I assume matchboy? It does seem that Thursday is the day of major weekly updates - my dad's was confirmed on a Thursday.

It would seem then the the tracker is updating 4 build weeks earlier than build rather than 4 calendar weeks, taking the 3 week shutdown into account.

Yup, I agree!  BW33 too - so they are taking into account the shutdown.  I know its still ages away but seeing the tracker update has made my week!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 28 June 2013, 09:08
Great news Shirley/ Monkey.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 28 June 2013, 09:10
Well f7ck my old boots and call me Shirley, the tracker now says 'Build Week Confirmed.'

I am in a state of shock!  :laugh:

Great news "Shirley"....... You can breath a sigh of relief now.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 28 June 2013, 09:14

Morning guys, finally build week confirmed here too!! Assume its 33 same as you guys! Still means no car until September though! lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 June 2013, 09:14
There is one huge relief for confirmed build week - no procrastination for colour/spec changes - decision made and set in stone!

If it wasn't for my colour change and the dealership error that followed i'd have been getting my GTD on Tues instead of my dad getting his.  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 June 2013, 09:22
At least you can have a drive monkeyhanger!!  that will make you even more excited!

its good news all round - all our cars will be on the same boat!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 28 June 2013, 09:23
Excellent news guys  :smiley:. About time!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 28 June 2013, 09:48
It does appear that it doesn't matter if you placed your order early (ie when the order books first opened) or late.... VW had always "intended" to build the first batch of customer GTis destined for the UK in BW33 'after' the factory re-opening?

I could be wrong mind you,  but why they couldn't tell us this right from the start I do not know?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 28 June 2013, 09:57
It does appear that it doesn't matter if you placed your order early (ie when the order books first opened) or late.... VW had always "intended" to build the first batch of customer GTis destined for the UK in BW33 'after' the factory re-opening?

I could be wrong mind you,  but why they couldn't tell us this right from the start I do not know?

I'm hoping mine is getting built next week :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: joet on 28 June 2013, 10:01
It does appear that it doesn't matter if you placed your order early (ie when the order books first opened) or late.... VW had always "intended" to build the first batch of customer GTis destined for the UK in BW33 'after' the factory re-opening?

I could be wrong mind you,  but why they couldn't tell us this right from the start I do not know?

Mine's in transit right now, so the week 33 theory does not stack up.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 June 2013, 10:04
Aww dammit I'm still on "processing"!!

Am I the only one of us early birds not with a 33-35 BW?  I'm still stuck on 39/40!  ffs :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 June 2013, 10:14
That must move forward Bear, surely?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 28 June 2013, 10:27
It does appear that it doesn't matter if you placed your order early (ie when the order books first opened) or late.... VW had always "intended" to build the first batch of customer GTis destined for the UK in BW33 'after' the factory re-opening?

I could be wrong mind you,  but why they couldn't tell us this right from the start I do not know?

Mine's in transit right now, so the week 33 theory does not stack up.

Oh well... It was worth a shot... Just another "theory" dead in the water...

Thanks for putting me straight  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jsybrian on 28 June 2013, 10:36
Order placed 2nd April still buildweek 40 ish bah.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 June 2013, 11:17
Order placed 2nd April still buildweek 40 ish bah.

Wow.  I'm sure you've got to come forward from that, mine has got to come forward too...

I'm sorely tempted to call VW exec this afternoon if my dealer doesn't email me back (been nearly 48 hours since I emailed them to say everyone else was getting updates and could they check... still no reply).  If I cave and make the call I'll post back here!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 June 2013, 11:33
Order placed 2nd April still buildweek 40 ish bah.

Wow.  I'm sure you've got to come forward from that, mine has got to come forward too...

I'm sorely tempted to call VW exec this afternoon if my dealer doesn't email me back (been nearly 48 hours since I emailed them to say everyone else was getting updates and could they check... still no reply).  If I cave and make the call I'll post back here!

I'm surprised you've lasted that long Bear - I'm usually on the blower if I haven't had an email reply within an hour!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 June 2013, 11:42
So is that all the week 33ers confirmed now then? Hopefully same will be seen Thurs aftrnoon for the 34ers next week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 28 June 2013, 12:21
I e-mailed my salesman on Wednesday asking if they had an estimate build week they could give me. He replied same day and said it was currently estimated BW 33 which if nothing changed would be roughly September when I get my hands on it.

This morning my VW Tracker has moved to Build Week Confirmed. I've not asked dealer if this is still 33 as they should be contacting me next week, but I might be safe to assume that i'm in with the rest of the week 33'ers...

Definately think you should give them a call Bear, seems you've been waiting longer than most!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 28 June 2013, 12:54
My dealer also estimated week 33 for me, but the tracker is still not showing. Has anyone above got the GTD with Panoramic roof?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 June 2013, 13:18
My dealer also estimated week 33 for me, but the tracker is still not showing. Has anyone above got the GTD with Panoramic roof?

I would give your dealer a ring, or maybe VW UK, quoting your tracking number. They should tell you what week you are currently scheduled or estimated to be. If you are BW33 it seems that maybe you should've seen a tracker update by now, most of us 33ers got a tracker update yesterday it seems.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 June 2013, 15:03
I'm so massively jealous of all you chaps sitting on 33-35 I've been firing up the VW tracker every 30mins and then crying like a baby resigning myself to my fate each time it says "processing"... until JUST NOW it says "not recognised"

It must be updating me it MUST! (don't point out the obvious flaw in my argument I can't cope).
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Oh come on please please please go to 35... PLEASE! :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 June 2013, 15:08
I'm so massively jealous of all you chaps sitting on 33-35 I've been firing up the VW tracker every 30mins and then crying like a baby resigning myself to my fate each time it says "processing"... until JUST NOW it says "not recognised"

It must be updating me it MUST! (don't point out the obvious flaw in my argument I can't cope).
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Oh come on please please please go to 35... PLEASE! :laugh:

you have got to call that VW Exec Office Bear, is the only way you'll know for sure.  And don't be that jealous, we still have a minimum of 10 weeks before delivery - and you'll only be a couple of weeks behind that so by then you won't care!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 28 June 2013, 15:12
I'm so massively jealous of all you chaps sitting on 33-35 I've been firing up the VW tracker every 30mins and then crying like a baby resigning myself to my fate each time it says "processing"... until JUST NOW it says "not recognised"

It must be updating me it MUST! (don't point out the obvious flaw in my argument I can't cope).
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Oh come on please please please go to 35... PLEASE! :laugh:

It is amazing how a stupid little animated icon can make you feel so much happier. When you click on and see that wee robot moving you suddenly get very exited :) hopefully it will happen for you soon Bill :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 June 2013, 15:13
you'll only be a couple of weeks behind

If I'm on 39/40 still then its 1.5-2 months behind! :tongue:

I'm feeling the buzz of a change soon!  I'm just hoping it is a change forward.  Do you know what time the VW exec phone line closes?  Don't want to call if I can avoid it as I already sent a second email to my dealer and one to twitter VWUK... one of them should get back to me right? :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 June 2013, 15:26
Just ring them - i'm pretty sure that whoever you deal with on the phone won't know a thing about the email and the twitter post. My dealer didn't even know my status had changed when he rang me about my dad's car this morning.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 June 2013, 15:26
Damn.  Its back to "processing".

:cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 June 2013, 15:27
Did you know there is a "delay by 1 week" button at VW UK for every tricky question you ask them publicly on Facebook/Twitter?  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 June 2013, 15:29
Did you know there is a "delay by 1 week" button at VW UK for every tricky question you ask them publicly on Facebook/Twitter?  :whistle:

Was beginning to suspect...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 28 June 2013, 15:30
Did you know there is a "delay by 1 week" button at VW UK for every tricky question you ask them publicly on Facebook/Twitter?  :whistle:

If that was the case then Mark (Matchboy) wouldn't be seeing his this side of Xmas  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 June 2013, 15:33
If that was the case then Mark (Matchboy) wouldn't be seeing his this side of Xmas  :grin: :grin:

Xmas 2014 you mean... :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dervy on 28 June 2013, 15:53
My dealer also estimated week 33 for me, but the tracker is still not showing. Has anyone above got the GTD with Panoramic roof?

Hi valenni, my pw, 5 door GTD with DSG, panoramic roof, Vienna leather, nav and dynaudio was built in wk 25 and has been showing as "in transit" for the past two weeks.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 28 June 2013, 15:59
My dealer also estimated week 33 for me, but the tracker is still not showing. Has anyone above got the GTD with Panoramic roof?

Hi valenni, my pw, 5 door GTD with DSG, panoramic roof, Vienna leather, nav and dynaudio was built in wk 25 and has been showing as "in transit" for the past two weeks.

Cheers mate, just wanted to make sure none of my options were causing a delay. Let us know when you get yours!! Love that glass roof on the white!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 June 2013, 16:15
Did as you guys told me and called VW exec.  They just called me back:

BUILD WEEK 35... (unconfirmed)!

WOO! :grin: :grin: :grin:  Prior to this I was on unconfirmed BW 39/40.

Really really pleased with this.  I asked if they knew when things would be confirmed.  Was told "We are currently on BW 33, so everything up to 33 is confirmed.  Therefore you can expect to be BW confirmed in a week or two."  (EDIT: 33 is 7 weeks away so this matches the theory of 4 weeks before confirmation + 3 weeks for shut down.)

Awesomeness. :smug:

Gotta find some cash to pay for it now... :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 June 2013, 16:29
Did you know there is a "delay by 1 week" button at VW UK for every tricky question you ask them publicly on Facebook/Twitter?  :whistle:

If that was the case then Mark (Matchboy) wouldn't be seeing his this side of Xmas  :grin: :grin:

 :grin: :grin: It's funny cause its true!!

BRILLIANT news Bear - I told you you would only be a couple of weeks behind us!  Just like I'm always telling the wife, I'm always right.....  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 June 2013, 16:33
BRILLIANT news Bear - I told you you would only be a couple of weeks behind us!  Just like I'm always telling the wife, I'm always right.....  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:

Heh heh.  Panic over.

Anyone else left stuck on a long wait or is that all of us on 33-35 now?  jsybrian I guess...  I bet he'll be moving to 35 or better soon too.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 28 June 2013, 16:45
Did as you guys told me and called VW exec.  They just called me back:

BUILD WEEK 35... (unconfirmed)!

WOO! :grin: :grin: :grin:  Prior to this I was on unconfirmed BW 39/40.

Really really pleased with this.  I asked if they knew when things would be confirmed.  Was told "We are currently on BW 33, so everything up to 33 is confirmed.  Therefore you can expect to be BW confirmed in a week or two."  (EDIT: 33 is 7 weeks away so this matches the theory of 4 weeks before confirmation + 3 weeks for shut down.)

Awesomeness. :smug:

Gotta find some cash to pay for it now... :laugh:

Brilliant news Bill  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tommygund on 28 June 2013, 17:14
I'm still at 36, rang my dealer this morning as my stress levels kept going up looking at all you guys getting great news! He rang to say was still at 36 unconfirmed. Surely it must move forward to 35 at least next week. Order date was 16/4.  :cry: 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 June 2013, 17:25
I'm still at 36, rang my dealer this morning as my stress levels kept going up looking at all you guys getting great news! He rang to say was still at 36 unconfirmed. Surely it must move forward to 35 at least next week. Order date was 16/4.  :cry:

Tommy, I feel like you probably will move forward.  My experience this week is that on seeing many people move forward on their BWs I've emailed my dealer twice and had no answer, then emailed VWUK and had no answer.  Now both dealer and VWUK told me that they would inform me immediately there is any change to my estimated BW.  They both said the dealer would be the first to know.

However, on calling VWUK as some of the chaps here suggested they immediately took my number and said they would contact "sales".  Got a call back 45mins later to be told I'm now on BW35 (unconfirmed).  So clearly the dealer does not know immediately, or maybe they have to actively ask for an update or refresh their system or something, because in my case they seem to be too busy to find out what VWUK were able to do via phone.

...Or possibly the dealer is sick of me and has me on ignore.. haha.  But seriously, I've only emailed them I think 3 times in 2 months which can hardly be considered too many when the information (until this week) has been so vague as to cause a lot of uncertainty on the customer side.  The fact that I've moved forward 5 weeks and they didn't tell me is evidence I was justified in contacting them anyway!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tommygund on 28 June 2013, 17:34
Cheers Bear. As has been mentioned on numerous occasions its the not knowing that is the most irritating part. I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and hold my inner keyboard warrior until Monday. At the end of the day as soon as the dealer has the sale their interest drops. Not in all but most cases. So think ill give VWUK a ring and see if they can give me an actual update as opposed to another guessdemation from the dealer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 28 June 2013, 17:37
Glad to hear you finally got some good news bear. Even though you had to chase perhaps a little more than you should've had to get it but atleast its positive :).

Hopefully tommygund will get some similar news soon too so we can all be in a happier state of waiting :) even though it may still be inpatiently   :grin:

Does anyone know what this "shutdown" is and when it is? Like dates / build week? I thought it was around when mine was estimated but now im conformed the factory surely mustnt be closed during that period...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 28 June 2013, 17:43
Id love some news, all i get when i email the dealer is, "i'll get back to you when i have some news"
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 June 2013, 17:53
Does anyone know what this "shutdown" is and when it is? Like dates / build week? I thought it was around when mine was estimated but now im conformed the factory surely mustnt be closed during that period...

See here...
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=252146.msg2347731#msg2347731
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/sns-rt-us-volkswagen-wolfsburg-golfbre95n0iz-20130624,0,1542421.story

Basically:
Factory still open.
Probably a lot less cars being built.
July 15 and August 2.
Which is BW 29-31.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 28 June 2013, 17:58
Does anyone know what this "shutdown" is and when it is? Like dates / build week? I thought it was around when mine was estimated but now im conformed the factory surely mustnt be closed during that period...

See here...
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=252146.msg2347731#msg2347731
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/sns-rt-us-volkswagen-wolfsburg-golfbre95n0iz-20130624,0,1542421.story

Basically:
Factory still open.
Probably a lot less cars being built.
July 15 and August 2.
Which is BW 29-31.

Thanks again Bear :)

What are the odds we might get a bit of sun by the time we all get our hands on them... Might get mine in time for my birthday.. Wonder if they'll put a bow on it :P
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 June 2013, 18:00
Might get mine in time for my birthday.. Wonder if they'll put a bow on it :P

You could ask them to... haha!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 28 June 2013, 18:50
Mine has changed to build week confirmed today,what week will my car be built then ? :undecided: finally some movement after 12 weeks and 3 days of waiting :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 June 2013, 18:51
Mine has changed to build week confirmed today,what week will my car be built then ? :undecided: finally some movement after 12 weeks and 3 days of waiting :rolleyes:

Sounds like BW33 for you.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redgolfgtd on 29 June 2013, 22:14
http://www.monmotorsvw.co.uk/used-cars/4966/volkswagen-golf    ........................ for those that don't want to wait
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 29 June 2013, 23:03
Good news Simon.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: SRGTD on 30 June 2013, 07:11
http://www.monmotorsvw.co.uk/used-cars/4966/volkswagen-golf    ........................ for those that don't want to wait

And a couple more. Ad for the first one says it's Limestone Grey but looks more like Carbon Grey.

http://listers.co.uk/Used/Cars/Volkswagen/Golf/2.0_TSI_GTI_5dr/133240

http://www.sinclairvolkswagen.co.uk/Used-Car-Details/used-volkswagen-golf-gti-mk6-hatchback-5-dr-20-tsi-gti-210-ps-5-dr-hatchback-tornado-red-manual-petrol-ID_35639602998456.aspx

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 30 June 2013, 10:08
All of these demo cars will have been ragged to f7ck - I'd rather wait a few months for a new one!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 30 June 2013, 10:42
Good news Simon.

Cheers ,I'm just glad I fixed my part exchange price mind you it has caused us some hassle being late as we now have to mot the car and renew the insurance then change it when the new car arrives.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 30 June 2013, 13:22
Good news Simon.

Cheers ,I'm just glad I fixed my part exchange price mind you it has caused us some hassle being late as we now have to mot the car and renew the insurance then change it when the new car arrives.

Check with your dealer. My roco will likely need 4 new tyres before I get my car due to the delay, and they said they'd sort it out without effecting the PX value or me paying!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: allycat45 on 30 June 2013, 17:16
Have had an email from the dealer today telling me my GTI is showing Production Week 36 (1st Week of September) on their system even though the tracker still says "Processing ..." (as previously discussed above)). Going to drive their DSG demo on Wednesday, with report here later.

When I (re)ordered the car in mid-June they said I still had the same slot as my day 1 order that I subsequently cancelled but that it would be week 40 - they weren't clear on week 40 build or week 40 delivery. So maybe it has moved forward a little or maybe not.

Anyone know or willing to speculate on time from production week to me being in my new motor ?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 30 June 2013, 17:35
4-6 weeks from build mate.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 01 July 2013, 16:22
My GTD order now shows Build week confirmed on the tracker...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 July 2013, 17:32
My GTD order now shows Build week confirmed on the tracker...

End of week 33, or more likely early week 34. Hopefully we'll see the other week 34s trickle through this week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 01 July 2013, 18:03
My GTD order now shows Build week confirmed on the tracker...

End of week 33, or more likely early week 34. Hopefully we'll see the other week 34s trickle through this week.

When's that in real money again?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 01 July 2013, 18:06
My GTD order now shows Build week confirmed on the tracker...

End of week 33, or more likely early week 34. Hopefully we'll see the other week 34s trickle through this week.

When's that in real money again?

Well wk35 is the last week of August I believe.  So, 33/34 should be the second half of August.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 July 2013, 18:08


When's that in real money again?

Week commencing 19th August. Should be on it's way to Emden by the end of that week or shortly after then await a ship to the UK.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 July 2013, 18:42
mines a wk34. it can't come quick enough!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 01 July 2013, 18:50
I checked in with my dealer today.

Still stuck on provisional BW38.

Boourns!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 01 July 2013, 20:00
I checked in with my dealer today.

Still stuck on provisional BW38.

Boourns!

Not sure I'd trust them if I were you. :evil: as far as I know my dealer still thinks I'm on 39 or 40.  I have no doubt I'm on 35 though!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tommygund on 02 July 2013, 09:35
Rang my dealer yesterday and asked him to get an update on my build week. Just rang me back. I have moved to BW 35. So Bear, you got that spot on!

He also told me that hopefully it should go to confirmed by the 16th of July. When I asked why he said that fits into the pattern of other orders they have had. Not too sure about that, but I have my fingers and just about everything else crossed.

We shall see in the coming weeks!   

 :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 July 2013, 09:57
Rang my dealer yesterday and asked him to get an update on my build week. Just rang me back. I have moved to BW 35. So Bear, you got that spot on!

He also told me that hopefully it should go to confirmed by the 16th of July. When I asked why he said that fits into the pattern of other orders they have had. Not too sure about that, but I have my fingers and just about everything else crossed.

We shall see in the coming weeks!   

 :grin:

Ah, thats good news.  Also interesting about the 16th July.  If I was guessing I would have said 11th or 12th July, because so far we've seen quite a few orders update on Thurs or Fri, and since last week was apparently confirmation week for BW33 orders it would be next week to confirm BW35.

Since your dealer thinks it would be the following Tuesday if those of us expecting a BW35 confirmation (you, Jimble, myself...) don't see anything happen next week we can relax... at least until Tuesday! hehe
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 02 July 2013, 10:02
Mine is now sitting at week 27 which is this week - hopefully in the middle of being built just now!  Any idea when it should go to 'In Transit'?  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 02 July 2013, 10:06
Anyone else got build week 27?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tommygund on 02 July 2013, 10:08
He may have been giving himself a bit of leeway I suppose, as he knows I will start pestering him again if nothing changes.

With a 35 BW what are you expecting for delivery times Bear? 3-4 weeks from build date. I am thinking that Delivery is the biggest variable (plonking the thing on the earliest ship helps), plus factoring in this shutdown. 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 02 July 2013, 10:13
Anyone else got build week 27?

Im supposed to be bw27 as well i hope  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 July 2013, 10:16
He may have been giving himself a bit of leeway I suppose, as he knows I will start pestering him again if nothing changes.

With a 35 BW what are you expecting for delivery times Bear? 3-4 weeks from build date. I am thinking that Delivery is the biggest variable (plonking the thing on the earliest ship helps), plus factoring in this shutdown.

Well.......

My personal estimate (hope) is for delivery on 20th September (a Friday), or during that week.  If the car is built early in wk35 then its nearly 4 weeks from then to the 20th.  So I might be being about 2 weeks too optimistic in my estimate!

EDIT:
I actually made a timeline when I was bored so I could tick off the days and weeks.  Sad I know.  I insert little comments and highlight all the key days. :nerd:

(http://i.imgur.com/M2WUkWg.png)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 02 July 2013, 10:22
Anyone else got build week 27?

Im supposed to be bw27 as well i hope  :smiley:

Just went on the tracker after my last post and what do you know....now showing 'In Transit!'  Delighted!  Anyone have exact times as to how long it takes from now to dealer?  Any way of tracking where the car is? Craig, you should check to see if yours is in transit too!  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 02 July 2013, 10:26
Bill you really must get out more  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 02 July 2013, 10:26
Anyone else got build week 27?

Im supposed to be bw27 as well i hope  :smiley:

Just went on the tracker after my last post and what do you know....now showing 'In Transit!'  Delighted!  Anyone have exact times as to how long it takes from now to dealer?  Any way of tracking where the car is? Craig, you should check to see if yours is in transit too!  :wink:

Fantastic news Iain! That's really early in the week. I checked mine and it's still sitting at bw confirmed. Hoping that it will change by the end of the week.

In terms of delivery I think it's just your luck depending on when the next shipment is due to go. It could probably be anywhere between 2-4 weeks
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 July 2013, 10:30
Just went on the tracker after my last post and what do you know....now showing 'In Transit!'  Delighted!  Anyone have exact times as to how long it takes from now to dealer?  Any way of tracking where the car is? Craig, you should check to see if yours is in transit too!  :wink:

Congrats!

Bill you really must get out more  :grin:

I know.

Here is the timeline with the comments actually visible:

(http://i.imgur.com/8xcoJ53.png)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 02 July 2013, 10:32
Iain can I ask what date did your order go into bw confirmed status?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 02 July 2013, 10:34
Iain can I ask what date did your order go into bw confirmed status?

Sure, Craig - it was on the 6th of June.  Yourself?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 02 July 2013, 10:41
Iain can I ask what date did your order go into bw confirmed status?

Sure, Craig - it was on the 6th of June.  Yourself?

6th June as well so really promising then  :smiley: I'll be checking every half hour now :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 02 July 2013, 10:42
Absolutely! Be sure to let me know!  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 02 July 2013, 10:45
Absolutely! Be sure to let me know!  :smiley:

Will do  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 02 July 2013, 12:47
My experience with the tracker, is it was behind actual status.

The build week was ok, but when saying it was in transit, arrived in the UK, and at dealer was about 3 days behind actual!


Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 02 July 2013, 13:17
I checked in with my dealer today.

Still stuck on provisional BW38.

Boourns!

You and me both, I feel your pain and suffering.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hobojim on 02 July 2013, 14:12
Week 37, 2nd week in Sept. Has got quite real now... better work out how I'm going to pay for this thing. Easily the most expensive I have ever bought. Quite scary!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 July 2013, 14:45
I checked in with my dealer today.

Still stuck on provisional BW38.

Boourns!

You and me both, I feel your pain and suffering.

Try calling VWUK, number was posted earlier in this thread.  I bet you're scheduled for an earlier week than that!  For anyone who ordered in April, or probably May for that matter, wk35 should be the latest I think.  Thats my gut feeling anyway.

My dealer must have me on ignore as they've not responded to my last 2 emails asking for an update sent almost a week ago, but last time I talked to them they said wk39, but it would probably be later (wk40 I guess).  Yet, VWUK were confident it would be wk35 and confirmed shortly.

Dealer doesn't know or really care in my opinion.  They just want me to go away and be quiet until they call to say its time to pay them... and pick the car up.  All the "we have the most up to date info" and "as soon as we know you'll know" stuff is BS in my opinion.  So if they tell you wk38 or something I suspect they're not actually checking, or maybe just looking at a computer readout when there is better info available if they call the right person (which is what VWUK do if you ask them to).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 02 July 2013, 14:58
All i got from my dealer yesterday was , "nothing to report"
think i'll give it another couple of weeks and then i'll start to bother them a lot more
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 02 July 2013, 15:01
Bill: If you are week 35, I would be expecting a tracker update very shortly, like next Thursday?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 July 2013, 15:04
Bill: If you are week 35, I would be expecting a tracker update very shortly, like next Thursday?

I fully expect a change next Thursday for the BW35 people.  If it doesn't come I'd give it another few days before I start to panic though! :grin: heh heh
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tommygund on 02 July 2013, 19:02
Tracker down/updating. You never know!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 02 July 2013, 19:06
Bill: If you are week 35, I would be expecting a tracker update very shortly, like next Thursday?

I fully expect a change next Thursday for the BW35 people.  If it doesn't come I'd give it another few days before I start to panic though! :grin: heh heh

Just to save you panicking and going mental Bear, last Thursday I checked the tracker at about 11.30pm and it was processing - it wasn't until I checked at 8am on Friday morning that it had actually changed!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 02 July 2013, 22:15
For us 35ers wouldn't it be more like the end of july to change to confirmed? Roughly 4-5 weeks before?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Carbon VW on 02 July 2013, 22:22
Hi all. My first post on here. I have Gti ordered with build week 28. Dealer has assured me I will get delivery by July 24th. Order info is 6mf, CSG, 5 door. Bi xenon. Austin wheels(both not standard in Ireland) and phone prep. I ordered May 1st.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 July 2013, 23:25
For us 35ers wouldn't it be more like the end of july to change to confirmed? Roughly 4-5 weeks before?

When I spoke to VWUK last week they said they were "on BW33 this week, so I should see confirmed BW in 1 or 2 weeks tops."

See http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=252146.msg2349668#msg2349668 for more detail on that call.

I'll let you decide how much to trust that! :tongue: I'm hopeful though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 03 July 2013, 10:57
For us 35ers wouldn't it be more like the end of july to change to confirmed? Roughly 4-5 weeks before?

When I spoke to VWUK last week they said they were "on BW33 this week, so I should see confirmed BW in 1 or 2 weeks tops."

See http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=252146.msg2349668#msg2349668 for more detail on that call.

I'll let you decide how much to trust that! :tongue: I'm hopeful though.

Fingers crossed it's right then!  :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 03 July 2013, 22:06
Mines now in the UK.
Hope to pick it up at the weekend/early next week.

  :drool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 04 July 2013, 11:00
Lisa from VW called, apparently to reply to my email from last week.  She wasn't aware I'd already got bored waiting and called to speak to one of her colleagues. :evil:

Anyway, she says last time we spoke (2-3 weeks ago) my BW was changing between 37 and 39 and she doesn't want to give me an update as it will probably just change again :undecided:.  Again repeated that the dealer is checking it all the time and again that the dealer will call me as soon as there is something to report.

This was a very different conversation to the last one I had with one of her colleagues.  It was evasive, not providing any firm information.  The other girl I spoke too was much more convincing.  She said she'd have to make some enquires and would call back in 45mins, which she did, then told me I'm on unconfirmed 35 and can expect a confirmation within 2 weeks.  Interestingly Lisa's parting shot was also that I might expect a confirmation within 2 weeks.  That suggests to me she can also see I'm sitting on 35, but she's decided not to tell me anything until its all confirmed so it doesn't then change and get me upset or something?!?  I'm not sure what they are afraid of, being sued?

This idea about not giving any info until it is certain is all very well for VW, making their lives easy and everything.  But its a real pain in the neck for their customers.  Having no idea when the car is being made is annoying, and knowing there will be a confirmation doesn't help because that confirmation is also at some unknown future point... :angry:  I'd rather they just be straight about things.  We're all perfectly capable of coping with information that is uncertain.

Anyway, I remain convinced I'm on BW35 despite this conversation which didn't really give me any information at all...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 04 July 2013, 11:39
You should be confirmed on the tracker next week Bear - fingers crossed!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: DougL on 04 July 2013, 12:02
My car ordered on the 22/5 now has an unconfirmed build week of 36, which has moved one week further forward than it was in late May. Dealer expects it mid September.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 04 July 2013, 13:37
Just got a call from my dealer, he told me my GTI is now build week 35 which is end of August so he reckons delivery early September on the 63 plate.  Happy with that  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 04 July 2013, 14:43
Just got a call from my dealer, he told me my GTI is now build week 35 which is end of August so he reckons delivery early September on the 63 plate.  Happy with that  :smiley:

I was told to expect 4 - 6 weeks for the car to be delivered and ready to drive away.  My build week is 32 (33, given the shutdown?), so potentially puts it on a knife-edge for being a 63 plate - not that it matters as a private plate is going on, but still... ;)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bingham67 on 04 July 2013, 15:35
Got told mine been delayed due to rear view camera :( wont see it until September on tracking site just says processing order.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 July 2013, 15:50
when did you order bingham67? Ive just spoken to VW and they said rear camera isnt holding up orders that were already in. its only orders from 1st July that are being held up.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bingham67 on 04 July 2013, 16:03
when did you order bingham67? Ive just spoken to VW and they said rear camera isnt holding up orders that were already in. its only orders from 1st July that are being held up.

17th April dealer told me yesterday as problems with rear view camera production had been delayed so it will put back the date of arrival.



Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 04 July 2013, 16:31
17th April dealer told me yesterday as problems with rear view camera production had been delayed so it will put back the date of arrival.

Oh sh!t, thats virtually all of us!

Anyone heard anything different?  I thought like mcmaddy said that it was only holding up cameras from now onwards.  Basically that they've used them faster than they are supplied so that they'll run out by the time an order placed now would be built.  Is Bingham's dealer talking crap?  I hope so.

If this is the case why don't they call us and ask if we want to drop the camera?  Some of us probably would if it meant they could get their cars with no more delays and that would also ease the supply/demand problem!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 04 July 2013, 16:39
A pointless option seems to be causing a lot of problems  :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 04 July 2013, 16:40
A pointless option seems to be causing a lot of problems

Didn't we decide that all options are pointless, as indeed is the car itself, if we look at things like that? :tongue:

However, I take your point. :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 04 July 2013, 16:44
Didn't we decide that all options are pointless, as indeed is the car itself, if we look at things like that? :tongue:

Yup, nobody on here needs a Golf GTI, or indeed the camera.  But, if it is holding things up...  :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 04 July 2013, 17:51
Sigh..............

Quote
I did check on your order yesterday and as you say, the build week is only scheduled and still hasn’t confirmed. I also would have expected it to have a confirmed build by now, so I called Volkswagen’s sales office and they have had quite a few calls from GTI customers!  They have told me that there are some delays due to high demand on the GTI and GTD models, but also the rear view camera has been removed from ordering on Golfs.  Any customer orders that have been placed with the rear view camera will be honoured, but it is taking a little longer for the build status to confirm.  They are getting weekly updates from the factory on this issue and there should be another update on Monday, so I will call them again and let you know if there are any changes.
 
I apologise for this, but I will keep you updated.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 04 July 2013, 18:00
17th April dealer told me yesterday as problems with rear view camera production had been delayed so it will put back the date of arrival.

Oh sh!t, thats virtually all of us!

Anyone heard anything different?  I thought like mcmaddy said that it was only holding up cameras from now onwards.  Basically that they've used them faster than they are supplied so that they'll run out by the time an order placed now would be built.  Is Bingham's dealer talking crap?  I hope so.

If this is the case why don't they call us and ask if we want to drop the camera?  Some of us probably would if it meant they could get their cars with no more delays and that would also ease the supply/demand problem!

I've got the rear view camera and no mention of delay by my dealer.  In fact I was on BW40 for a while with them and its just come forward to BW35, hence the phone call.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 July 2013, 18:02
I've never come across such a shambles in all my life. VW are pathetic and I'm finding it very difficult not to cancel my order and by something else. Pisses me off that others are ordering in June and even July and getting build weeks of 39, 40,41 etc. No customer satisfaction or loyalty at all. total and utter bulls4it from a supposedly world wide company!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bingham67 on 04 July 2013, 18:05
Sigh..............

Quote
I did check on your order yesterday and as you say, the build week is only scheduled and still hasn’t confirmed. I also would have expected it to have a confirmed build by now, so I called Volkswagen’s sales office and they have had quite a few calls from GTI customers!  They have told me that there are some delays due to high demand on the GTI and GTD models, but also the rear view camera has been removed from ordering on Golfs.  Any customer orders that have been placed with the rear view camera will be honoured, but it is taking a little longer for the build status to confirm.  They are getting weekly updates from the factory on this issue and there should be another update on Monday, so I will call them again and let you know if there are any changes.
 
I apologise for this, but I will keep you updated.

Really does suck not been impressed by VW service to say the least not had any word from my dealer for 2 months and seems like it always me having to chase it up.

Expect better service when spending £32k on a car having said that as i am exchanging my car dealer offered to soften the blow and i will be able to exchange my car before the date and be given a car (hopefully mk6 golf) until new one arrives.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 04 July 2013, 18:06
Just so you know I ordered at the start of May  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 04 July 2013, 19:06
I've never come across such a shambles in all my life. VW are pathetic and I'm finding it very difficult not to cancel my order and by something else. Pisses me off that others are ordering in June and even July and getting build weeks of 39, 40,41 etc. No customer satisfaction or loyalty at all. total and utter bulls4it from a supposedly world wide company!

Don't do it - you'll wait 3 months for something else that's a fresh order and you'll lose out on your already agreed p/x value by getting a lower one. The GTD is worth the wait! Has the stock GTI at Scotswood road Benfield gone yet? It'll give the same mpg as your Tiguan, could be worth a haggle, and it's white.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 04 July 2013, 19:13
My confirmed bw26 was total bull.
When i chased my dealer earlier this week, expecting to talk about approx dates for delivery, all I got from them was that it is to be built anytime soon!
'Anytime soon' to vw could be months based on my experience so far
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 04 July 2013, 19:27
My confirmed bw26 was total bull.
When i chased my dealer earlier this week, expecting to talk about approx dates for delivery, all I got from them was that it is to be built anytime soon!
'Anytime soon' to vw could be months based on my experience so far

Is your order sitting at bw confirmed just now and if so how long has been at that stage?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 04 July 2013, 20:21
Just to let you guys know I am unconfirmed Build Week 34 and just checked the Tracker at 20.20pm Thursday 04/07/13.  It is still showing processing order.  I will check it again after 8am tomorrow to see if it has changed as mentioned earlier in this thread.  If it goes as some of you expect on this thread I should see build week confirmed tomorrow?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 July 2013, 20:22
just checked mine too. no change
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 04 July 2013, 20:27
I'm hoping to see mine move to in transit stage tomorrow as I was told bw27 but am not so sure now after what Rick2b said. I'll give it to Saturday, but if it doesn't change ill be extremely disappointed  :sad: I've not had contact from my dealer for about a month now as didn't want to keep hassling him but will be phoning him on Monday if I don't hear anything.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 04 July 2013, 20:33
Mine went straight from in transit to arrived at dealers.

And I already knew as my dealer phoned the day before the tracker changed.


Pretty useless really, just keep in touch with your dealer, most will inform you of any changes straight away.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 04 July 2013, 23:43
If the camera is the big hold up I have no problem with them delivering the car without it and then fitting it later at the dealer when they've sourced more parts.  Have they considered this? Should I suggest it? :tongue:

What I don't get is why we have to badger them so much just to get even the hint of some information.  If they communicated with us they might find their problem improve if people are willing to cancel the camera or get it fitted at a later date... And we'd all be a lot less confused and therefore a lot less angry.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 04 July 2013, 23:46
If the camera is the big hold up I have no problem with them delivering the car without it and then fitting it later at the dealer when they've sourced more parts.  Have they considered this? Should I suggest it? :tongue:


It's a bugger of a retrofit. Would you be happy to let the dealer rip your interior apart to fit it? I'd do without it before I'd do that.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 05 July 2013, 00:21
If the camera is the big hold up I have no problem with them delivering the car without it and then fitting it later at the dealer when they've sourced more parts.  Have they considered this? Should I suggest it? :P

What I don't get is why we have to badger them so much just to get even the hint of some information.  If they communicated with us they might find their problem improve if people are willing to cancel the camera or get it fitted at a later date... And we'd all be a lot less confused and therefore a lot less angry.


I will spit my dummy out if they tell me i'm not getting the camera!!! It should be on a first come first served basis and there weren't many that ordered before me in this country, just because they haven't given me a confirmed BW yet, they can kiss my arse and trading standards will be getting involved!! 8)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 July 2013, 00:36
If the camera is the big hold up I have no problem with them delivering the car without it and then fitting it later at the dealer when they've sourced more parts.  Have they considered this? Should I suggest it? :tongue:


It's a bugger of a retrofit. Would you be happy to let the dealer rip your interior apart to fit it? I'd do without it before I'd do that.

Hadn't thought of that.  But then if its just the camera itself why can't they factory fit the wires or whatever and just pop the camera into the rear hatch when it arrives.  I now I know, that's too complicated for VW I can already hear the patronising voice on the phone as they explain they can't do that (without even really considering if they can or not).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 July 2013, 07:28
they can't fit anything if it's in short supply. it will be the wiring looms and the camera together. according to VW yesterday it's on my car whenever it gets built. it's only been pulled for people ordering after 1st July. they should have a spare one when I cancel my car today!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 05 July 2013, 07:30
Yay! Finally got off that damn "Processing your order" screen to "Build Week Confirmed"  :laugh:

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order/beingBuilt?orderNumber=23210768

Does this mean that the car will be made pre-august shutdown or post-august shutdown?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 July 2013, 07:31
I would say post august at bw 34
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 05 July 2013, 07:57
I will spit my dummy out if they tell me i'm not getting the camera!!! It should be on a first come first served basis and there weren't many that ordered before me in this country, just because they haven't given me a confirmed BW yet, they can kiss my arse and trading standards will be getting involved!! 8)

No camera, no car, simple as that!  Consider that dummy primed and ready to fly if I get a call to say I can't have it if I want my confirmed BW32 to stand  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 05 July 2013, 08:04
If the camera is the big hold up I have no problem with them delivering the car without it and then fitting it later at the dealer when they've sourced more parts.  Have they considered this? Should I suggest it? :tongue:


It's a bugger of a retrofit. Would you be happy to let the dealer rip your interior apart to fit it? I'd do without it before I'd do that.

Hadn't thought of that.  But then if its just the camera itself why can't they factory fit the wires or whatever and just pop the camera into the rear hatch when it arrives.  I now I know, that's too complicated for VW I can already hear the patronising voice on the phone as they explain they can't do that (without even really considering if they can or not).

Afraid it just doesn't work like that. If its not fitted in the factory, none of the wiring will be there. It is possible to retrofit it (although I'm not sure how much, if any, complications the new Composition media introduces) but its not a job for the faint hearted and definitely not a job I'd allow monkeys in a main dealer to do to my car. 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: MkVIIGTD on 05 July 2013, 09:17
Just checked Track my Order this morning, I have unconfirmed BW 34 and has been like that for months now, but as yet still no change on the tracker.
I have specced rear view camera... here we go, another bloody wait!  :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 July 2013, 10:23
I was 34 on monday this week, phoned yesterday and told 35, phoned this morning and maybe 36-37 so cancelled my order.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: p3asa on 05 July 2013, 10:34
I wouldn't worry about there being no cameras holding up things as it won't be for long.
I remember the MK6 running out of RD510s, cameras, DSG boxes and 1.4tsi engines but its not for long at all.
The cameras are small enough that a few thousand could be delivered within a matter of days.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: MkVIIGTD on 05 July 2013, 10:45
Not the news I wanted to hear mcmaddy... I really hope this isn't goin to delay all ordered with rear view cameras!  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ginnes on 05 July 2013, 11:34
I've slipped one more week to BW36 (unconfirmed) from BW35 three weeks ago, which was BW34 six weeks ago.  :sad:
I've got the rear camera, so maybe that's the reason for the latest push back.

I think adding the climate screen was most likely reason that my original estimate slipped 10 weeks to BW34 a little while back, at least it'll be a handy option to have it when I get my car in late September/early October !

Not going to get too stressed out about the delay, my mate waited 8 1/2 months for a pretty standard A4 avant, and anyway, the sun is out and I've got beer chilling in the fridge for when I get home ...  :smug:

Dealer also said if someone wanted to order today they would be looking at March 2014 delivery.


Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 05 July 2013, 11:35
Dealer also said if someone wanted to order today they would be looking at March 2014 delivery.

 :shocked:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 July 2013, 11:42
I've slipped one more week to BW36 (unconfirmed) from BW35 three weeks ago, which was BW34 six weeks ago.  :sad:
I've got the rear camera, so maybe that's the reason for the latest push back.

I think adding the climate screen was most likely reason that my original estimate slipped 10 weeks to BW34 a little while back, at least it'll be a handy option to have it when I get my car in late September/early October !

Not going to get too stressed out about the delay, my mate waited 8 1/2 months for a pretty standard A4 avant, and anyway, the sun is out and I've got beer chilling in the fridge for when I get home ...  :smug:

Dealer also said if someone wanted to order today they would be looking at March 2014 delivery.
Climate screen isnt available until bw45 which is sometime in november.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 July 2013, 12:17
Climate screen isnt available until bw45 which is sometime in november.

Seriously?  When the hell did that bombshell land?

Did you really cancel your order mcmaddy?  I was expecting (hoping) to move to BW confirmed today but no such luck.  I'm gonna give it until Tues or Weds next week but this is getting seriously stupid now.  Waiting until BW35 is long enough, but I can put up with it, but to keep being pushed back and back and back and never getting to a confirmed date is just ludicrous.

Such a lack of information from VW.  I've only ever had one conversation where I felt it was real candid info (told BW35) all other discussions with them they are evasive and just give the line "it fluctuates day to day we don't want to tell you anything until its confirmed".  Well that is f*cking useless then isn't it?  You might as well just say "we won't tell you when it will be built period, could be a month, could be many many months, who can say?" because that is what this amounts to practically!

Urgh.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Thornster on 05 July 2013, 12:33
I was 34 on monday this week, phoned yesterday and told 35, phoned this morning and maybe 36-37 so cancelled my order.

I feel for you - VW appear to have been very poor in relation to updating customers.

Take this as a positive - reorder (GTI this time!) with a bigger discount which is likely now available!

I ordered this week and have been told 18-20 weeks for delivery; I can't see it taking until March for the GTI, although as all the Company Car orders flood in for the GTD I suppose it could create a big back-log of orders (similar to my A3 Black Edition which was a Company Car favorite for a while due to the high spec/low CO2 etc...)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 July 2013, 12:51
The thing that pi44ed me off was that people who are ordering through brokers were getting build weeks far in advance to me and ordered two months after me. Seems VW are looking after everyone but private customers who are paying virtually full price for a vehicle. (No complaint towards people who went through a broker  :wink:)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 05 July 2013, 12:56
The thing that pi44ed me off was that people who are ordering through brokers were getting build weeks far in advance to me and ordered two months after me. Seems VW are looking after everyone but private customers who are paying virtually full price for a vehicle. (No complaint towards people who went through a broker  :wink:)

It does seem absolutely ridiculous. There should be an orderly queue and first come first served philosophy. It is a complete mystery as to how they organise the orders they receive. Appears to be no logic whatsoever

 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 July 2013, 12:56
The thing that pi44ed me off was that people who are ordering through brokers were getting build weeks far in advance to me and ordered two months after me. Seems VW are looking after everyone but private customers who are paying virtually full price for a vehicle. (No complaint towards people who went through a broker  :wink:)

Just seen on another thread that jrc ordered in wk21 and has confirmed BW28.  I ordered in wk17 I think and I have UNCONFIRMED BW that might be 35 or might be more like 37-39, depending on who at VW you believe more. :angry:

This makes total sense to me. :rolleyes:

EDIT:
Thinking about it I might get the car quicker if I cancel and re-order on Drive the Deal.  Seems like I'd get about 3-4% better discount too!  Don't think I can cope with that however.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GTIEcosse on 05 July 2013, 14:04
First post here, but been lurking for while. Thought I would add my experience so far...

We ordered 15th May through DtD and were told 14 weeks....3 weeks ago dealer called and told us we had an estimated b/w34....VW tracker still "processing order" though...nothing since.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lagerlout on 05 July 2013, 14:27
Meh, trying not to think about it. I just got my new Merc SL today, and it's taken 12 weeks in total. How it takes 20+ weeks for a GTI is beyond me. I'm being told week 36 but I reckon it will 38. I ordered mid April.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 July 2013, 14:37
I just got my new Merc SL today

You're buying an SL and a GTI?  I'm jealous hehe :whistle:

The GTI lead time for a mid April order is just insane.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ginnes on 05 July 2013, 14:44
Climate screen isnt available until bw45 which is sometime in november.

After it was confirmed that the climate screen had been added to my order I saw the screen that showed my build week estimated at 35. Dealer checked again for me today and came back with BW 36. If it really was BW45  he would have told me, in-between his tears most likely as that would be a Xmas/New year delivery when he has promised to honour my p/x price which was given at the beginning of April !
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 05 July 2013, 16:16
Yeah, if climate screen was BW45, my car would not be confirmed at BW32.

As for cancelling, it's all fine and sends a message, but it's just one of hundreds of orders up and down the country so not really sure VW will care too much.  If everybody cancelled, yeah, different story!  It's annoying, but I have no choice but to wait.  Cancelling and not re-ordering is fine, but cancelling and then re-ordering from elsewhere just to see if you get it quicker is a hassle-step too far for me!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jsybrian on 05 July 2013, 17:39
I'm in the same boat as Bill The Bear ordered 1st April still no confirmed build date.I just wondered if the likes of Autoexpress or Autocar got hold of VW ordering fiasco if they could get a proper answer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 05 July 2013, 18:31
Just checked my order tracker and it is still saying processing order.  I am uncomfirmed BW34 still, I think?  Have not been told otherwise for a while now...  Infact I have not heard anything at all. 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 July 2013, 19:24
Just seen on another thread that jrc ordered in wk21 and has confirmed BW28.  I ordered in wk17 I think and I have UNCONFIRMED BW that might be 35 or might be more like 37-39, depending on who at VW you believe more. :angry:

Bill you're no worse off than me(assuming you get confirmed for no later than BW37), just offset by 4 weeks. I ordered week 13 and confirmed for week 33: 23 or 24 weeks all in from order to delivery. mcmaddy's latest bit of news puts him a canny bit worse than that.

Nothing can be done, the biggest waiters here would seem to be those who bought 2nd, 3rd or 4th in the allocation queue at a dealership, drivethedeal seem to be getting orders fulfilled by dealerships who haven't used their allocation.

For the whole ordering/discounts obtained process we've seen here there it seems that the dealers are far more willing to give a better discount on a GTI than a GTD and it also seems that if you are in the market for a GTI then not all dealerships have taken up their allocation if a broker can jump in and get a client a GTI in 8 weeks.

For those in the long wait boat, they could cancel and reorder with a broker - you might save a bit of money, but if you have a p/x with a locked-in price you're going to be offered less with your newly negotiated deal because in the waiting time your p/x is depreciating and you generally don't get a great price on the new one and a great p/x price (the supplying dealerships tend to rob Peter to pay Paul in that respect). For the likes of Bear and mcmaddy that have waited so long already, they're likely less than 10 weeks away from their build, could well be in the same situation by starting again (10 weeks to build via broker), but definitely with less p/x - so why jack in your order now just to reorder the same thing? If on the other hand the process has sickened you and you'll not be getting another VW then fair do's.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 05 July 2013, 19:38
Just seen on another thread that jrc ordered in wk21 and has confirmed BW28.  I ordered in wk17 I think and I have UNCONFIRMED BW that might be 35 or might be more like 37-39, depending on who at VW you believe more. :angry:

Bill you're no worse off than me(assuming you get confirmed for no later than BW37), just offset by 4 weeks. I ordered week 13 and confirmed for week 33: 23 or 24 weeks all in from order to delivery. mcmaddy's latest bit of news puts him a canny bit worse than that.

Nothing can be done, the biggest waiters here would seem to be those who bought 2nd, 3rd or 4th in the allocation queue at a dealership, drivethedeal seem to be getting orders fulfilled by dealerships who haven't used their allocation.

For the whole ordering/discounts obtained process we've seen here there it seems that the dealers are far more willing to give a better discount on a GTI than a GTD and it also seems that if you are in the market for a GTI then not all dealerships have taken up their allocation if a broker can jump in and get a client a GTI in 8 weeks.

For those in the long wait boat, they could cancel and reorder with a broker - you might save a bit of money, but if you have a p/x with a locked-in price you're going to be offered less with your newly negotiated deal because in the waiting time your p/x is depreciating and you generally don't get a great price on the new one and a great p/x price (the supplying dealerships tend to rob Peter to pay Paul in that respect). For the likes of Bear and mcmaddy that have waited so long already, they're likely less than 10 weeks away from their build, could well be in the same situation by starting again (10 weeks to build via broker), but definitely with less p/x - so why jack in your order now just to reorder the same thing? If on the other hand the process has sickened you and you'll not be getting another VW then fair do's.

Very well said, I have a guaranteed part ex price.  Was going to part ex my mk 6 GTI, then changed to my beautiful wife's Mini Cooper but have changed back to the 6 GTI.

it is locked in so I'm in no rush as I love my current GTI  :smiley:

With that said I do understand other buyers being right pissed off with VW, to be fair it is a comedy of errors though no one is laughing (not here anyway)   :shocked:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 July 2013, 20:17
I'm in the same boat as Bill The Bear ordered 1st April still no confirmed build date.I just wondered if the likes of Autoexpress or Autocar got hold of VW ordering fiasco if they could get a proper answer.

I wouldn't dare contact the press until AFTER taking delivery! Haha :whistle:
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Post by: jsybrian on 05 July 2013, 20:40
Made you think though. :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 05 July 2013, 23:16
Picking mine up on Monday.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 08 July 2013, 17:39
My estimated has gone back a week again to 36. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 July 2013, 17:42
My estimated has gone back a week again to 36. :rolleyes:

Did you ring them up and make them press the button? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 08 July 2013, 18:12
My estimated has gone back a week again to 36. ::)

Did you ring them up and make them press the button? ::)


Rang the dealer first for an update and wasn't best pleased when he said 36 so i asked about the camera but he said there was nothing on my order about it being taken off, he did say you can't order them now which we already knew, he said give VW a ring to see what they say?


Needless to say i got the usual feckless numpty who "dunno why it's takin so long", no real reason given apart from the fact that because i've specced the car quite well could be causing a delay? Useless!!!! ;D
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 08 July 2013, 18:42
My order has not gone to BW confirmed so I'm guessing its slipped back from (dealer informed BW35) to a later week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 July 2013, 19:12
For those in the long wait boat, they could cancel and reorder with a broker - you might save a bit of money, but if you have a p/x with a locked-in price you're going to be offered less with your newly negotiated deal because in the waiting time your p/x is depreciating and you generally don't get a great price on the new one and a great p/x price (the supplying dealerships tend to rob Peter to pay Paul in that respect). For the likes of Bear and mcmaddy that have waited so long already, they're likely less than 10 weeks away from their build, could well be in the same situation by starting again (10 weeks to build via broker), but definitely with less p/x - so why jack in your order now just to reorder the same thing? If on the other hand the process has sickened you and you'll not be getting another VW then fair do's.

Totally Agee mate.  I'm not saying this applies to anybody here, but if anyone has cancelled because of waiting, I just take that as them not really being sure they wanted it in the first place, and using it as an excuse (albeit a fair one!).  If you want the car, you know the situation and you know there is a wait.  I know full-well that if I had cancelled out of spite, I'd be sick as a parrot come September time when I could have been driving a spanking new GTI...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 08 July 2013, 19:43
it's all well and fine saying now you know the situation but when the dealer quite happily takes your deposit and tells you your new car will be here back end of June or early July then it transpires it was never going to be delivered then it's more than a bit galling. it may well be the car you want but when you expect something at a particular time then find out it's going to be another two and a half months minimum that's not knowing the situation and being taken advantage of. the managed expectation from VW is non existent with the attitude of you'll get your car when when we're good and ready and not before.  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 08 July 2013, 19:52
I had an email from my dealer today to say car has slipped from bw35 to bw36  :sad: 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 08 July 2013, 20:29
I had an email from my dealer today to say car has slipped from bw35 to bw36  :sad:
have you ordered the rear camera?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 July 2013, 20:33
it's all well and fine saying now you know the situation but when the dealer quite happily takes your deposit and tells you your new car will be here back end of June or early July then it transpires it was never going to be delivered then it's more than a bit galling. it may well be the car you want but when you expect something at a particular time then find out it's going to be another two and a half months minimum that's not knowing the situation and being taken advantage of. the managed expectation from VW is non existent with the attitude of you'll get your car when when we're good and ready and not before.  :laugh:

I totally hear ya', and get any anger you feel as well, 'cos I thought about cancelling several times just because!  But realistically, if I want the car what would it achieve?  I'd lose the guaranteed part-ex, and probably have to wait just as long from a broker.  I guess being confirmed at 32/33 now helps my cause, but I agree, the whole thing has been a bit of a joke.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gordor on 08 July 2013, 21:47
it's all well and fine saying now you know the situation but when the dealer quite happily takes your deposit and tells you your new car will be here back end of June or early July then it transpires it was never going to be delivered then it's more than a bit galling. it may well be the car you want but when you expect something at a particular time then find out it's going to be another two and a half months minimum that's not knowing the situation and being taken advantage of. the managed expectation from VW is non existent with the attitude of you'll get your car when when we're good and ready and not before.  :laugh:

I totally hear ya', and get any anger you feel as well, 'cos I thought about cancelling several times just because!  But realistically, if I want the car what would it achieve?  I'd lose the guaranteed part-ex, and probably have to wait just as long from a broker.  I guess being confirmed at 32/33 now helps my cause, but I agree, the whole thing has been a bit of a joke.


We should have an x rated swear thread on here so we can vent our frustration  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 08 July 2013, 22:09
I had an email from my dealer today to say car has slipped from bw35 to bw36  :sad:
have you ordered the rear camera?

Yes I have got the rear camera on order....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 08 July 2013, 22:12
rear camera is what is pushing the be back. I wouldn't be surprised if 36 gets knocked back again to 37/38. considering ordered wk14 that's 22weeks as it stands now with any more delays pushing it even further.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 08 July 2013, 22:50
rear camera is what is pushing the be back. I wouldn't be surprised if 36 gets knocked back again to 37/38. considering ordered wk14 that's 22weeks as it stands now with any more delays pushing it even further.
I don't think I'll believe the build week until it becomes confirmed and that seems a long way off.....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 10 July 2013, 23:32
Is anyone else build week 32? I was just thinking that will be the first week after the summer factory closure. Is that a good or a bad thing uhmm....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 10 July 2013, 23:36
Is anyone else build week 32? I was just thinking that will be the first week after the summer factory closure. Is that a good or a bad thing uhmm....

I'd say better than the week before wouldn't you  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 10 July 2013, 23:38
Is anyone else build week 32? I was just thinking that will be the first week after the summer factory closure. Is that a good or a bad thing uhmm....

Yeah I'm week 32.  I highly doubt the week before or after will be of any relevance!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 July 2013, 23:42
Is anyone else build week 32? I was just thinking that will be the first week after the summer factory closure. Is that a good or a bad thing uhmm....

Yeah I'm week 32.  I highly doubt the week before or after will be of any relevance!

Exactly, you guys are forgetting its ze Germans - they are machines! Output will be at the max regardless of BW!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 10 July 2013, 23:51
 I'd say its better than a Friday car before the holiday break  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 July 2013, 07:36
I'd say its better than a Friday car before the holiday break  :smiley:

Friday before Shutdown they're wishing they were on holiday rather than work. Monday after shutdown they're daydreaming about the holiday they just had and wishing they were still there - you can't win!  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redgolfgtd on 11 July 2013, 22:05
Can anyone remind me how long before your build week the tracker changes from process to build week confirmed please.....cheers
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 July 2013, 22:08
Can anyone remind me how long before your build week the tracker changes from process to build week confirmed please.....cheers

It changes 4 weeks before your build week (or a bit more just now due to shutdown) so it depends when your build week is... Which you don't know until the tracker changes.

Chicken or Egg? :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 July 2013, 22:53
Can anyone remind me how long before your build week the tracker changes from process to build week confirmed please.....cheers

It changes 4 weeks before your build week (or a bit more just now due to shutdown) so it depends when your build week is... Which you don't know until the tracker changes.

Chicken or Egg? :sad:

As above, but specifically 4 Production weeks before. If you build week is within 4 weeks of the end of the 3 week shutdown, you will hear 7 weeks before (like me on BW33) - thats 3 shutdown weeks + 4 production weeks.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 13 July 2013, 10:04
Dunno about anyone else but I'm getting pretty pissed off with waiting now. My preferred car is the GTI but if I had ordered either the M135i or Focus ST I would be enjoying the car already. I ordered 30/4/2013 and still haven't moved to a confirmed build week. I've been pretty patient up to now, but am starting to get :angry: :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 July 2013, 10:59
2nd April here so you've got 4 weeks on me  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 13 July 2013, 11:01
2nd April here so you've got 4 weeks on me  :cry:

You ordered 28 days before me and still have no confirmed build week?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 July 2013, 11:09
not yet. unconfirmed 36 that was 34 that was 28. it's the rear view camera apparently.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 13 July 2013, 11:13
not yet. unconfirmed 36 that was 34 that was 28. it's the rear view camera apparently.

Jesus, I thought I was getting shafted  :sick:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 July 2013, 11:22
most annoying thing is though dealer up here has just taken delivery of 3 gtd demonstrators from VW UK!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 13 July 2013, 11:25
most annoying thing is though dealer up here has just taken delivery of 3 gtd demonstrators from VW UK!

Shocking isn't it, there's now a performance pack GTI for sale on Autotrader new and unregistered too.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 July 2013, 11:27
I think it's just plain wrong that these cars are appearing for sale before long standing orders from customers aren't even allocated a build slot. piss poor customer service from VW.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 13 July 2013, 11:29
I think it's just plain wrong that these cars are appearing for sale before long standing orders from customers aren't even allocated a build slot. piss poor customer service from VW.

It leaves a bitter taste in my mouth, I need to stop thinking about this today before I do something rash.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 13 July 2013, 11:33
Gave my spec to my dealer on 28th of march and he put the order through as the books opened and i'm still on unconfirmed 36! It is getting a bit stupid now especially when VW CS ;D  can't give you any reason why it's taking so long! >:(
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 July 2013, 11:50
jimble I noticed you've got the rear camera specced on yours. that's the reason why you are still unconfirmed I would say. camera has been pulled from any new orders as they've run out  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 13 July 2013, 11:51
Just changed to BW confirmed on the tracker yesterday, waiting to hear from dealer what the actual BW is. Ordered 02/05 (and I was getting pi**ed off waiting for it to change), so I feel for the guys that placed their orders before me and still don't have a confirmed BW!  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 July 2013, 11:53
I've seen quite a few posts by many members this week where I detect the irritation is turning towards anger now...

It seemed like most of us were going confirmed BW35, which is an atrocious wait, but probably the max acceptable one.  That its been put back YET AGAIN and still not confirmed is stupid.  What makes me angry though is that people have ordered months later than many of us, yet are getting their cars 2 or maybe more months earlier!?!?!?

VW bluster about spec causing hold up but it's all been proven to be BS apart from the rear cam which they claim won't affect us anyway!  Why the hell can't they just bump 100 of the 5000 Golfs they make a week (or is it a day?) and make 100 more GTIs instead?  Either they are incompetent at solving the problem, or they have a problem too big to solve which is incompetence in planning.

Short of the factory burning down its their screw up followed by their failure to take action to deal with it.

PS: I've given up on BW36, it's 37 or later for sure... Probably back to 40 and a November delivery (if I'm lucky).  They should be knocking thousands off the price as an apology for the extra months of waiting! :angry:  even if they offered £1000 it would probably just cancel the depreciation in my p/x and gain me nothing!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 July 2013, 11:56
jimble I noticed you've got the rear camera specced on yours. that's the reason why you are still unconfirmed I would say. camera has been pulled from any new orders as they've run out  :rolleyes:

As you said "NEW" orders.  How the hell can if affect James who ordered over 3 months !!?!?! before the shortage became apparent?  They specifically said only July orders were delayed.  Did they lie?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 13 July 2013, 11:57
jimble I noticed you've got the rear camera specced on yours. that's the reason why you are still unconfirmed I would say. camera has been pulled from any new orders as they've run out  :rolleyes:

Yeah, I have the camera too, my dealer mentioned it not being available for new orders. But they didn't think it was affectiing existing orders.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: drisser on 13 July 2013, 12:09
This was probably covered before, but I ordered a week ago... how long should it take for the dealer to give me a confirmed order status.. and then how long from that to getting an esimtated build week ?

cheers
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 13 July 2013, 12:16
This was probably covered before, but I ordered a week ago... how long should it take for the dealer to give me a confirmed order status.. and then how long from that to getting an esimtated build week ?

cheers

You should be able to get a proper VW order number you can use on the tracker the very next working day, or whenever the admin side submits orders within the dealership. A few weeks after that you should have an estimated build week which is very much a rough estimate and subject to change until you get a confirmed build week, 4 weeks before build.

Actual build seems to be very strongly tied to the dealership's allocation and how many they sold already. If the dealership has only sold 1 GTI or GTD since orders opened then chances are you'll get it within 10 weeks of ordering, as that first one will have been built already if it was an early order. If you're number 6 from that dealership then expect Christmas delivery. Maybe you should ask your dealer how many orders ahve preceded yours.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 13 July 2013, 12:20
Allocation is what we've deduced to be the key to delays (excluding rear camera delays). Allocation is also the key to better residuals than the average Golf, low availability and higher demand keeps the prices up.

It is completely daft of VW to delay GTIs and GTDs that by virtue of allocation should have been built by now, at the expense of churning out demos that will prompt orders that VW can't or won't fulfill for a very long time.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: drisser on 13 July 2013, 12:25
cool thanks

have emailed the dealer this morning to ask if the order has been confirmed, will wait till he comes back to me... though having an online tracker sounds like a recipe for days spent twiddling thumbs pressing refresh every 3 hours !!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 July 2013, 12:25
Maybe they should cancel all allocations for GTIs and just have one queue based on date of order?  What is the point of having angry customers on the phone for months and months while unfulfilled slots sit there just so some lucky guys can jump the queue? :huh: VW are not doing themselves any favours.

I know those Germans don't really like to think out of the box, but even an imbecile could see they need to do this. :whistle: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 July 2013, 13:14
jimble I noticed you've got the rear camera specced on yours. that's the reason why you are still unconfirmed I would say. camera has been pulled from any new orders as they've run out  :rolleyes:

Yeah, I have the camera too, my dealer mentioned it not being available for new orders. But they didn't think it was affectiing existing orders.
who knows and we'll probably never find out the truth.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: drisser on 13 July 2013, 16:56
Dealer just mailed me back to say my car is showing build week 41, which sounds ok given i ordered last weekend ? 

Guess that is the advantage ordering from a smaller dealer rather than a big one, sounds like i am not last in the allocation..
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 13 July 2013, 17:10
Dealer just mailed me back to say my car is showing build week 41, which sounds ok given i ordered last weekend ? 

Guess that is the advantage ordering from a smaller dealer rather than a big one, sounds like i am not last in the allocation..

I'm not trying to piss on your chips, but the estimated build week vw give has a heavy side of guesstimation with it.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jsybrian on 13 July 2013, 17:57
Just to say my dealer has only 2 customer orders all end March beginning April  and their own car still build week unconfirmed.On a side note reading Autoexpress today a Vauxhall customer has been waiting since March for a BiTurbo Astra sounds familiar he was told no confirmed build date.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: p3asa on 13 July 2013, 19:25
The thing with the cameras holding everyone up could be resolved in a matter of days.
Its that small I'm sure they could get a container of 10,000's units in any time.
It was similar with the MK6 only it was RCD510's, DSG & 1.4TSI's that held things up.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lagerlout on 15 July 2013, 09:50
Starting to get a bit edgy with mine now too, still no build week nearly three months after ordering. Very poor isn't it. My dealer tells me it's BW 36 but he seems veeerry nervous...  :wink: :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 15 July 2013, 10:10
Starting to get a bit edgy with mine now too, still no build week nearly three months after ordering. Very poor isn't it. My dealer tells me it's BW 36 but he seems veeerry nervous...  :wink: :huh:

Hello 2014
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lagerlout on 15 July 2013, 10:20
lol, if it goes into October I'm cancelling mine. Not kidding.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: domrees on 15 July 2013, 10:36
I just got a BW confirmed of wk35.  (End of August).

Order end of April, so all in all 5 months lead time.

I shouldn't really be too surprised, but I am a little disappointed.  A "key life moment" happens on 4th September and it would've been good to have the car then to "celebrate".

Oh well. As VW UK customer service rep so eloquently put it, "there's nothing we can do about it".  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simoor on 15 July 2013, 11:48
I placed my order at the end of March (GTI, 3 door, DSG) and my build week was meant to be 27, pushed back to 28, the dealer told me last week that the car is ready to be shipped, but couldn't get the ball rolling on the finance because the car doesn't have a VIN number yet, strange, as I thought this would of been assigned at the start of build?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: domrees on 15 July 2013, 12:17
Simoor,
They will need the reg number also, and that wont really happen until the vehicle is registered.

Usually you can sign the appropriate finance docs, and initial where the reg number and VIN need to be entered. The dealer then enters them once they know them.  You'll need to have faith and trust in them though!

Failing that, wait until they have reg and VIN..


Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simoor on 16 July 2013, 11:25
Thanks domrees.

The dealer has now told me that the car was never ready for shipment, and it is actually still in production :undecided: he is confused as to why the sales team told me this, so I think sales staff are now pushing to keep customers happy. He has also confirmed that the shutdown will delay my delivery, which could end up being a 5 month order to delivery timescale.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 16 July 2013, 12:13
If its in production then they'll finish it before shutdown right?  So what's stopping them shipping?  Its crazy!

Anyone who gets under 5 months is extremely lucky I think.  On my current estimates it will be best case scenario 20 weeks (near 5 months) from my order date to my BW... and its at least another month for delivery.

So that's a 6 month order time (best case) when I was told 3 months when I placed the order, well over the VW "maximum" of 20 weeks I was even recently assured they would not go over.  And they still can't confirm (or apparently even guess) when the car will be built.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 July 2013, 12:30
I'm the same as you Bear - best estimate is 20 weeks to delivery, but more realistically I'm looking at 22.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 16 July 2013, 12:40
I'm the same as you Bear - best estimate is 20 weeks to delivery, but more realistically I'm looking at 22.

If I assume 4 weeks from BW to getting the keys I'm now at 25 weeks minimum.  i.e. assuming I get confirmed BW37 (which I think is the next week to confirm now though the shutdown adds uncertainty here).

I feel like calling my dealer for a chat. :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 16 July 2013, 12:41
I'm looking at around 18-19 week order too (although I expect longer). However I'm only working on an estimated BW 42.

I know we're all bellyaching but it is a long, long time to wait isn't it!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 16 July 2013, 12:55
I'm looking at around 18-19 week order too (although I expect longer). However I'm only working on an estimated BW 42.

I know we're all bellyaching but it is a long, long time to wait isn't it!

It certainly is!  I think if I'd have been told September delivery when I ordered in April, I'm not sure I'd have gone ahead.  But, we are where we are and I guess it won't be long now for my confirmed BW32 car to get built.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 July 2013, 13:00
Yep its too long a wait.  I had to wait 20 weeks for my mk 6 but I had hoped they'd bucked their ideas up this time around.  They haven't!  Trouble is we've all got to suck it up and take it on the chin ( :shocked: :laugh:) and just wait.  Annoyingly for all of us we should have our cars now to enjoy driving in this weather as it ain't gonna last!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: drisser on 16 July 2013, 14:43
There is one upside for this painful wait !

Supply and demand means many dealers can't deliver anyone else's cars until next year which means residuals should be strong for a good while for us early adopters :laugh:

That is the only upside really though!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 16 July 2013, 22:17
I've been enquiring about a couple of pre-registered M135i's as I'm getting so pissed off waiting now.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 16 July 2013, 22:33
I've been enquiring about a couple of pre-registered M135i's as I'm getting so pissed off waiting now.

Yes it's annoying and pissy-offy, but if you want a car and wanted specifically a GTI, why quit now?  Quitting and getting nothing at all, I get that, but not switching to another car just because of the wait.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 16 July 2013, 22:36
I've been enquiring about a couple of pre-registered M135i's as I'm getting so pissed off waiting now.

Yes it's annoying and pissy-offy, but if you want a car and wanted specifically a GTI, why quit now?  Quitting and getting nothing at all, I get that, but not switching to another car just because of the wait.

I was torn between the M135i/Focus ST3 and GTI when I ordered. The GTI was obviously my favourite as I ordered one, the Focus was a distant third place, but I have always loved the M135i and even now it's a little out of my budget but it's getting considered due to the mess that is volkswagen's ordering to delivery situation.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 16 July 2013, 22:38
I've been enquiring about a couple of pre-registered M135i's as I'm getting so pissed off waiting now.

Yes it's annoying and pissy-offy, but if you want a car and wanted specifically a GTI, why quit now?  Quitting and getting nothing at all, I get that, but not switching to another car just because of the wait.

I'm in the opposite camp. I can completely understand wanting to switch especially if they are offering some attractive deals. The 135 is not great looking granted but it is an epic car for performance which I think may be high up in AAddicts priorities
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 16 July 2013, 22:57
For sure it's all about priorities and what's important, but the M135i hasn't just magically appeared on the scene.  Anyway, as ever in life, it's all about the choices we make and living with the consequences, good and bad, that make us who we are!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 16 July 2013, 23:03
For sure it's all about priorities and what's important, but the M135i hasn't just magically appeared on the scene. 

No, but I could be driving a brand new one by tomorrow lunch time  :grin:

I want to be patient for my GTI but with every passing week it bothers me more and more. What starts out being exciting and fun, soon becomes annoying and spoilt by the dreadful and inefficient way VW are dealing with this launch.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 17 July 2013, 00:10
For sure it's all about priorities and what's important, but the M135i hasn't just magically appeared on the scene. 

No, but I could be driving a brand new one by tomorrow lunch time  :grin:

I want to be patient for my GTI but with every passing week it bothers me more and more. What starts out being exciting and fun, soon becomes annoying and spoilt by the dreadful and inefficient way VW are dealing with this launch.

You are right
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 17 July 2013, 07:53
It's a long wait, but for those of us already driving something similar to what we'll be getting, is it that much of a hassle? MK6 GTI/GTD or Scirocco to MK7 GTI/GTD is hardly revolutionary.

I suppose the most galling aspect of the wait for some is that they're facing a 24-26 week wait from ordering to estimated delivery and a few lucky ones have snuck in there with only a 10 week wait.

It's good to know that my p/x collateral has appreciated by £1000 (vs expected delivery time) and waiting until new plate time (with no temptation to take it earlier) vs taking a July/August delivery will make it worth all the more at trade-in time too.

It's an easy wait for me knowing there's nothing else out there i'd rather have (although I might've been tempted by a TT if the MK3 wasn't just around the corner).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 17 July 2013, 10:20
It's good to know that my p/x collateral has appreciated by £1000 (vs expected delivery time) and waiting until new plate time (with no temptation to take it earlier) vs taking a July/August delivery will make it worth all the more at trade-in time too.

Well, its ok for some.  I wasn't totally happy with the p/x I was quoted so elected to revisit it nearer delivery time (and they were discussing p/x value for 1st August so that tells you what delivery time they were telling me I'd get when I ordered).  My p/x is losing £250 a month and will easily cost me £1000 by the time I take delivery.

Its actually hardly worth me trading my car in.  The p/x value is dropping much faster than what the car is really worth I'm sure the dealer will be very happy to take it off my hands for even less.  But if I keep it and give it to the wife thats another £6k I've got to find for the GTI.  The dealer doesn't really care.  They just say "well, we never offer a guaranteed delivery time and this happens on every new model so..."  Right.  So what?  So I should have expected this?  So why the hell did you assure me that delivery would be end of July then? :angry:

I can say right now that this experience means I will not buy from VW again without an agreement in writing stating the expected delivery date and what compensation (such as p/x) will be offered if the delivery should slip.

Oh, and I'm now told I'm on BW36, still not confirmed though. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 17 July 2013, 10:40
No, but I could be driving a brand new one by tomorrow lunch time  :grin:

I want to be patient for my GTI but with every passing week it bothers me more and more. What starts out being exciting and fun, soon becomes annoying and spoilt by the dreadful and inefficient way VW are dealing with this launch.

Yup, there are plenty of cars I could go out and buy and be driving away in a matter of days!  But, none of them are a Mk7 GTI, and as already pointed out on here, it's not like I'm driving something crap at the moment, it's still a decent example of a Mk5.

I'm one of the worlds worst for patience, and I guess having a confirmed BW helps.  But, it's like anything - yes you're pissed off now, but when you get the build week, know it's getting built, then in transit, you'll be glad you held out and no less enthused for the car once you finally get to drive it away.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 17 July 2013, 11:13
It's good to know that my p/x collateral has appreciated by £1000 (vs expected delivery time) and waiting until new plate time (with no temptation to take it earlier) vs taking a July/August delivery will make it worth all the more at trade-in time too.

Well, its ok for some.  I wasn't totally happy with the p/x I was quoted so elected to revisit it nearer delivery time (and they were discussing p/x value for 1st August so that tells you what delivery time they were telling me I'd get when I ordered).  My p/x is losing £250 a month and will easily cost me £1000 by the time I take delivery.

Its actually hardly worth me trading my car in.  The p/x value is dropping much faster than what the car is really worth I'm sure the dealer will be very happy to take it off my hands for even less.  But if I keep it and give it to the wife thats another £6k I've got to find for the GTI.  The dealer doesn't really care.  They just say "well, we never offer a guaranteed delivery time and this happens on every new model so..."  Right.  So what?  So I should have expected this?  So why the hell did you assure me that delivery would be end of July then? :angry:

I can say right now that this experience means I will not buy from VW again without an agreement in writing stating the expected delivery date and what compensation (such as p/x) will be offered if the delivery should slip.

Oh, and I'm now told I'm on BW36, still not confirmed though. :rolleyes:

I know what you mean Bill. I got offered a lousy p/x price from the dealer however the only good thing was that it was fixed so I knew exactly the balance I would have to finance. I've been very fortunate however that I have managed to sell it privately thanks to another forum member on here  :smiley: 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 17 July 2013, 13:39
Well, its ok for some.  I wasn't totally happy with the p/x I was quoted so elected to revisit it nearer delivery time (and they were discussing p/x value for 1st August so that tells you what delivery time they were telling me I'd get when I ordered).  My p/x is losing £250 a month and will easily cost me £1000 by the time I take delivery.

Its actually hardly worth me trading my car in.  The p/x value is dropping much faster than what the car is really worth I'm sure the dealer will be very happy to take it off my hands for even less.  But if I keep it and give it to the wife thats another £6k I've got to find for the GTI.  The dealer doesn't really care.  They just say "well, we never offer a guaranteed delivery time and this happens on every new model so..."  Right.  So what?  So I should have expected this?  So why the hell did you assure me that delivery would be end of July then? :angry:

I can say right now that this experience means I will not buy from VW again without an agreement in writing stating the expected delivery date and what compensation (such as p/x) will be offered if the delivery should slip.

Oh, and I'm now told I'm on BW36, still not confirmed though. :rolleyes:

Maybe taking them up on a fixed p/x at point of ordering based on 01 August value was the better thing to. Yes it was going to be low, but at least it wouldn't get any lower in the meantime and your equity in the car would actually increase from point of ordering (assuming you're still financing it). Benfield's visit was the first time I'd ever been proposed a variable p/x dependent on delivery time. Do you have the option of reverting back to what they originally were offering you for your p/x based on Aug delivery?

Did you know that if delivery time exceeds 20 weeks from order, the dealership can apply for "compensation" from VW UK for losses associated with depreciating part-ex vehicles? My dealer mentioned this to me. Not sure if there are stringent terms like it only applies when the p/x is a VAG car.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 17 July 2013, 14:21
Just got off the phone with VW CS after i sent an e-mail asking if they'd sorted the windscreen wipers out yet as i didn't want to wait 7 months and then be in and out of the dealers for something that could've been addressed! :angry: they've had "a couple of reports but not many" but thats for another thread! :angry:

My BW has slipped another week to 37 although tell me it should go confirmed within the next 10 days!? :laugh: we'll see!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 17 July 2013, 14:47
My BW has slipped another week .... tell me it should go confirmed within the next 10 days!?

We've heard that one before haven't we? :whistle:

Btw, I was told wk36 by my dealer yesterday and I find it very hard to see why you'd be later than me, you should be about 2 weeks before me!  Anyway, I guess that means since yesterday I've slipped to wk37 most likely.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Exonian on 17 July 2013, 14:52
I've been enquiring about a couple of pre-registered M135i's as I'm getting so pissed off waiting now.

What sort of money are those going for out of interest?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rallypug on 17 July 2013, 15:03
For what its worth... 5 Door, Performance Pack, Adaptive Chassis Control, Winter Pack & Sat Nav ordered on 24 Jun, due in to dealer on 28 Oct!
I havent read all the posts on here, but is that in-line with other orders??

Thanks
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Exonian on 17 July 2013, 15:09
For what its worth... 5 Door, Performance Pack, Adaptive Chassis Control, Winter Pack & Sat Nav ordered on 24 Jun, due in to dealer on 28 Oct!
I havent read all the posts on here, but is that in-line with other orders??

Thanks

Mine was ordered mid April and due in the dealer about the same time as yours.  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 17 July 2013, 15:22
I've been enquiring about a couple of pre-registered M135i's as I'm getting so pissed off waiting now.

What sort of money are those going for out of interest?

have a look on autotrader, you can get a decent specced one for 33k - but that's probably 4-6k more than you're paying for your GTI I would imagine.  Still, you could buy one today as a few second hand ones with next to no mileage on them knocking around.  Tempted?!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 17 July 2013, 15:36
is that in-line with other orders??

No, its much faster.  You are looking at close to 2 months less wait than some.  Just don't try to modify your order and you're laughing! :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rallypug on 17 July 2013, 15:48
is that in-line with other orders??

No, its much faster.  You are looking at close to 2 months less wait than some.  Just don't try to modify your order and you're laughing! :wink:

That's good.... looks like they are producing in batches for the UK then...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Exonian on 17 July 2013, 16:47
I've been enquiring about a couple of pre-registered M135i's as I'm getting so pissed off waiting now.

What sort of money are those going for out of interest?

have a look on autotrader, you can get a decent specced one for 33k - but that's probably 4-6k more than you're paying for your GTI I would imagine.  Still, you could buy one today as a few second hand ones with next to no mileage on them knocking around.  Tempted?!  :laugh:

Yep I could always be tempted!
Was really just wondering the difference in price between a new order 135 and a pre registered one. Something for future reference or if I get really despondent waiting!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Chief1337 on 17 July 2013, 16:47
How long after ordering should I get build week confirmed?

The dealer has said that the car 'should' be build around the end of September, but judging by responses elsewhere on this forum I have no faith!

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 17 July 2013, 17:01
How long after ordering should I get build week confirmed?

This gets asked a lot.  The question is difficult because its not a case of how long after ordering until confirm, but rather a case of how long before build is confirm.  The answer to that is 4 weeks (but it seems like you can add 3 to this during shutdown).

So, lets say the average time from order to pick up is 20 weeks (I plucked this out of the air to be honest).  Subtract 5 weeks for delivery (average of the 4-6 stated by VW, which includes the build too).  Now subtract 7.  That leaves 8 weeks.  So I'd guess you'll get a confirmed BW 8 weeks after order, on average, and assuming 20 week total on average.

I say on average because I've been waiting over 12 weeks since ordering and still do not have a confirmed BW.  I'll be significantly over the 20 week limit too.  I might be able to make a better guess at the total average rather than just saying 20 weeks but can't be arsed right now, it will make me annoyed again. :tongue:

The dealer has said that the car 'should' be build around the end of September, but judging by responses elsewhere on this forum I have no faith!

That depends when you ordered.  Actually that depends on a lot of things, i.e. it seems totally random.  If you ordered in April its hard to see how your car would not be built by the end of September.  Cars ordered in May probably have a good chance too.  However, more recent orders sometimes seem to skip the queue and might also be built in September.

Confused yet?  Cause we all are!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 17 July 2013, 17:19
Just got off the phone with VW CS after i sent an e-mail asking if they'd sorted the windscreen wipers out yet as i didn't want to wait 7 months and then be in and out of the dealers for something that could've been addressed! :angry: they've had "a couple of reports but not many" but thats for another thread! :angry:

My BW has slipped another week to 37 although tell me it should go confirmed within the next 10 days!? :laugh: we'll see!!

Jimble: You rang them up and they pressed the "delay 1 week" button. If you're week 37, you'll be hearing week 33 (2nd week in Aug). Only ones who have had 7 weeks confirmation are those that bridged the shutdown period within 4 production weeks of it happening.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 17 July 2013, 17:43
Well, its ok for some.  I wasn't totally happy with the p/x I was quoted so elected to revisit it nearer delivery time (and they were discussing p/x value for 1st August so that tells you what delivery time they were telling me I'd get when I ordered).  My p/x is losing £250 a month and will easily cost me £1000 by the time I take delivery.

Its actually hardly worth me trading my car in.  The p/x value is dropping much faster than what the car is really worth I'm sure the dealer will be very happy to take it off my hands for even less.  But if I keep it and give it to the wife thats another £6k I've got to find for the GTI.  The dealer doesn't really care.  They just say "well, we never offer a guaranteed delivery time and this happens on every new model so..."  Right.  So what?  So I should have expected this?  So why the hell did you assure me that delivery would be end of July then? :angry:

I can say right now that this experience means I will not buy from VW again without an agreement in writing stating the expected delivery date and what compensation (such as p/x) will be offered if the delivery should slip.

Oh, and I'm now told I'm on BW36, still not confirmed though. :rolleyes:

Maybe taking them up on a fixed p/x at point of ordering based on 01 August value was the better thing to. Yes it was going to be low, but at least it wouldn't get any lower in the meantime and your equity in the car would actually increase from point of ordering (assuming you're still financing it). Benfield's visit was the first time I'd ever been proposed a variable p/x dependent on delivery time. Do you have the option of reverting back to what they originally were offering you for your p/x based on Aug delivery?

Did you know that if delivery time exceeds 20 weeks from order, the dealership can apply for "compensation" from VW UK for losses associated with depreciating part-ex vehicles? My dealer mentioned this to me. Not sure if there are stringent terms like it only applies when the p/x is a VAG car.
I asked about this 20 weeks compensation and its 20 weeks from confirmed build week now and not point of order. At least thats what VW UK have told me and Mick.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 17 July 2013, 17:52
I asked about this 20 weeks compensation and its 20 weeks from confirmed build week now and not point of order. At least thats what VW UK have told me and Mick.

So... if it takes 16 weeks (lets say) from date order placed until date BW confirmed... you could be waiting 36 weeks from order and they don't consider the delivery to be late?  Not very reasonable is it?  That's a 8.5 month lead time! :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 17 July 2013, 19:00
as I was told and I quote ”you'll get your car when you get your car and when we say so ”
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gordor on 17 July 2013, 19:42
as I was told and I quote ”you'll get your car when you get your car and when we say so ”


No way...that is outrageous!!  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: RikWebb on 17 July 2013, 20:22
as I was told and I quote ”you'll get your car when you get your car and when we say so ”

and the flip side "I'm the customer, I want my car and I want it now!"  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: SRGTD on 17 July 2013, 21:31
I asked about this 20 weeks compensation and its 20 weeks from confirmed build week now and not point of order. At least thats what VW UK have told me and Mick.

So... if it takes 16 weeks (lets say) from date order placed until date BW confirmed... you could be waiting 36 weeks from order and they don't consider the delivery to be late?  Not very reasonable is it?  That's a 8.5 month lead time! :huh:

I can fully appreciate and understand the frustration you guys are feeling. This seems to be pretty much a repeat of the experience of many mk6 owners and the loooooooong delays and waiting periods between ordering, the factory accepting the order and getting a confirmed build week. I had a 35 week wait from time of ordering and taking delivery  :angry: ordered mid Oct 2010, dealer indicated delivery around March/April 2011, finally took delivery mid July 2011.

Are VW bothered about customers experiencing long waiting periods and build weeks being put back? Of course they're not. Because of the limited build slots and dealer allocation, VW know that if a customer cancels an order there'll be many other potential customers ready to take their build slot or the cancelled order if the order has been locked down in the system. I think it's disgusting though that they tell you 'you'll have your car when we say so'. That's disgraceful behaviour!

I also enquired about the free loan car. At the time, I seem to remember the criteria for having a loan car was 20 weeks from the time the factory accepted the order, not 20 weeks from time of getting a confirmed build date.

I didn't get a loan car, but I negotiated with the dealer for them to cover the cost most of my maintenance my car needed during the extended waiting period (cambelt, MOT and half the cost of a service), plus they honoured the part ex price quoted to me at time of order, so I had a few months cheap motoring! And VW sent me an accessories voucher shortly after I took delivery for the grand sum of .............£30 (wow!)

Really frustrating I know, but hang in there; I'm sure it will be worth the wait.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 17 July 2013, 21:55
When I last spoke to the very helpful chap at the VW Executive office he confirmed that the loan car is available 20 weeks from the order date.  Therefore if, using me as an example, I'm looking at 22 weeks from point of order to delivery I could get a courtesy car for 2 weeks. This is your right and part of the VW terms & conditions.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 17 July 2013, 22:47
its probably no good for people with trade ins as all the dealer will do is say keep your trade in until the new car arrives.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 17 July 2013, 23:30
as I was told and I quote ”you'll get your car when you get your car and when we say so ”

and the flip side "I'm the customer, I want my car and I want it now!"  :whistle:

I've not heard anyone on here say that (except in jest).  The contention is two fold:

1. Estimates given before ordering have now proven to be wildly optimistic, further, VW seem unable or unwilling to proved revised estimates of any degree of accuracy.  Essentially this amounts to saying there is a delay of unknown length on our orders.

2. The sequence of orders moving to build confirmed has no relation to the order date, thus while some wait and wait and wait for an undetermined period of time others place new orders which get served first.

Both of the above are legitimate issues.  Saying "it's ready when its ready" is discourteous and extremely bad customer relations practice.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: RikWebb on 18 July 2013, 00:14
as I was told and I quote ”you'll get your car when you get your car and when we say so ”

and the flip side "I'm the customer, I want my car and I want it now!"  :whistle:

I've not heard anyone on here say that (except in jest).  The contention is two fold:

1. Estimates given before ordering have now proven to be wildly optimistic, further, VW seem unable or unwilling to proved revised estimates of any degree of accuracy.  Essentially this amounts to saying there is a delay of unknown length on our orders.

2. The sequence of orders moving to build confirmed has no relation to the order date, thus while some wait and wait and wait for an undetermined period of time others place new orders which get served first.

Both of the above are legitimate issues.  Saying "it's ready when its ready" is discourteous and extremely bad customer relations practice.

Exactly - there are 2 sides to the deal - A customer and a provider - we all know we will have to wait and that there could be delay's - that's a given!
BUT the main point is - whatever happened to customer service in this country?
If I was told by anyone within VW or its dealers ”you'll get your car when you get your car and when we say so ” - I would be making some serious waves through their organisation.
After all most companies are built on their reputation, why would they want to tarnish that?

Rik - currently in charge of a large bottle of Cidre :) chilling, waiting for a confirmed build date......
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 18 July 2013, 00:54
Rik - currently in charge of a large bottle of Cidre :) chilling, waiting for a confirmed build date......

Ahhh, that's the best way to wait! :cool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 18 July 2013, 07:54
Rik - currently in charge of a large bottle of Cidre :) chilling, waiting for a confirmed build date......

Ahhh, that's the best way to wait! :cool:

How big is the bottle, to be lasting 5 months?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 18 July 2013, 08:14
VW Germany would be horrified to hear discourteous dialogue to their customers being bandied about (but not enough to interfere in VW UK’s workings and get them to sort themselves out). Unfortunately for us, VW UK don’t really care. They have a strong brand loyalty (my GTD will be my 7th brand new VW), and while they keep making great cars people will keep coming and buying them even if they have to put up with sh!te customer service.

VW are the architects of the GTI and GTD supply trickling through with their allocation ordering structure. Order pretty much any Golf model except these 2 and you will have it within 13 weeks.

With the apparent effect that allocation has on delivery time, I’d be seeking out a dealership that has the fewest orders in for GTI/GTD in to date to minimise my wait if I was about to order one. Should you really have to do that? Being first in the queue at your chosen dealership is no guarantee of being first to receive your car, as I myself have found out.
The differences in customer care between VW Germany and VW UK are like night and day.

It’s amazing how arrogant some organizations can be when they’re providing something where demand outstrips supply. Before the housing crash we were looking at a new build house in a local new estate and they were selling so well that the arrogant lass on the sales desk for the estate wouldn’t give us the time of day if we hadn’t already sold our house, even though a part-ex was supposedly an accessible option. 2 months later and the market crashed. That woman plagued us for months to try and persuade us to buy once the good times has dissipated. Unfortunately for us I don’t think VW UK will ever have enough of a bad spell to dissipate their apathy for their customers.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 July 2013, 09:32
BUT the main point is - whatever happened to customer service in this country?

That's a whole different question and needs its own thread  :grin:

UK - worst customer service there is (in terms of everything!)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Neil_MK on 18 July 2013, 09:40
Does anyone actually know exactly when the factory shutdown is? I'm a confirmed BW28 but still not showing as 'In Transit' on the tracker.  I've had conflicting advice that BW28 is w/c 8/7 or w/c 15/7.  Surely they wouldn't build the car then delay shipping until after the factory shutdown?  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simoor on 18 July 2013, 09:56
Neil_MK - My car was phase 5 in the build progress on Monday, today my car is now 'in transit'. VW told my dealer that all cars in production before shutdown will be completed using skeleton staff.

My car was also build WK28
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Neil_MK on 18 July 2013, 10:14
Thanks Simoor, that's reassuring to hear.  I'll carry on hitting refresh on the order tracker page then!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redpoppies on 18 July 2013, 10:28

I ordered a 5 door DSG with leather and ACC on 10/4/2013. The order notification commitment date was 1/7/2013.

The VW tracker is now showing as "build week confirmed" and my dealer has said their system and VW UK systems show the build week as 33, w/c 12/8/2013
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 18 July 2013, 10:30
Thanks Simoor, that's reassuring to hear.  I'll carry on hitting refresh on the order tracker page then!

BW28 commenced 8/7.  And the tracker has been known to lag by a day or two on the arrival side so possibly the same is true when going to in transit too.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 18 July 2013, 10:57
UK - worst customer service there is (in terms of everything!)

I think we should just send all our customer service people to America to see how its done.  In the UK we don't seem to understand basic things about customer service.  Most big companies I end up talking to seem to think that as a customer who needs some help the most important things I want are:

a) To listen to a lengthy explanation of why they can't help me.
b) To have whole passages from the small print quoted to me while I pay the phone bill.
c) To have the fun of making all the suggestions myself as for them to give ideas would just be too easy.

A surprising number of people in this country seem to have no clue.  I'm forever being told that, really, the customer is not always right.  Its like people can only think of this phrase in a literal sense.  It should be interpreted to mean things like:

"Never tell the customer they are wrong",
"Don't argue with them, just help them"
"Who is right is irrelevant, sales/repeat sales are what you're paid for"
"Even if there isn't a problem, if the customer says there is a problem then that IS a problem".

But trying to explain this too often just elicits blank stares.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 July 2013, 11:40

I ordered a 5 door DSG with leather and ACC on 10/4/2013. The order notification commitment date was 1/7/2013.

The VW tracker is now showing as "build week confirmed" and my dealer has said their system and VW UK systems show the build week as 33, w/c 12/8/2013

This is pretty much exactly the same dates as me (give or take a couple of days) - my spec is the complete opposite of yours though!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 July 2013, 11:42
Couldn't agree more Bear.  I can't remember the last time I experienced customer service whereby I was shocked at how good it was - cause in this country it never is.

The US may be one f7cked up country but there customer service is second to none - shame they all go around shooting each other  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 18 July 2013, 11:48
To the contrary, I've had great customer service recently from the likes of Pizza Hut, Krispy Kreme (spot a trend here!), a local Apple Store, and latterly VW Exec CS where I found them to be more than helpful and accommodating.

I agree though, generally the trend is for poor customer service in this country, but simply questioning it and b!tching about it on a forum won't change things - write to the MDs and CEOs of these companies and keep drilling the message home!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 July 2013, 12:33
To the contrary, I've had great customer service recently from the likes of Pizza Hut, Krispy Kreme (spot a trend here!), a local Apple Store, and latterly VW Exec CS where I found them to be more than helpful and accommodating.

I agree though, generally the trend is for poor customer service in this country, but simply questioning it and b!tching about it on a forum won't change things - write to the MDs and CEOs of these companies and keep drilling the message home!

Apart from VW, the others you quoted are American companies - hence my point!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 18 July 2013, 12:52
To the contrary, I've had great customer service recently from the likes of Pizza Hut, Krispy Kreme (spot a trend here!), a local Apple Store, and latterly VW Exec CS where I found them to be more than helpful and accommodating.

I agree though, generally the trend is for poor customer service in this country, but simply questioning it and b!tching about it on a forum won't change things - write to the MDs and CEOs of these companies and keep drilling the message home!

Apart from VW, the others you quoted are American companies - hence my point!

Doesn't matter, as far as I am concerned they are companies registered in the UK, operating under UK legislation.  I've had bad customer service from solely UK companies, and also great customer service.  The trouble with this country is (not sure about others) is that we do not praise good customer service often enough.  But, we are quick to b!tch and moan about bad customer service, but often to people who can't do anything about it.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 July 2013, 12:55
I'm not b!tching - I'm just saying!  Well you are in the minority I would imagine - I rarely come across good customer service - or maybe my expectations are too high.  Having spent some time in the US I can confirm that UK customer service is p!ss poor in comparison.  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 18 July 2013, 13:00
I'm not b!tching - I'm just saying!  Well you are in the minority I would imagine - I rarely come across good customer service - or maybe my expectations are too high.  Having spent some time in the US I can confirm that UK customer service is p!ss poor in comparison.  :smiley:

Not specifically saying you are, but the complaints are flying around here!  It's not that I have low expectations, but I do make my points known, good or bad, to the appropriate people and that usually gets respect and results.  I guess it just comes naturally from the kind of work I do anyway, having to manage both client and our own expectations.

I'm totally with you on the whole US vs UK thing though, I too have spent some time over there, and you are absolutely right!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: RikWebb on 19 July 2013, 00:24
Well to change the subject slightly.....

I need to re-stock the Cidre
Looks like my GTD has been delayed again, I was expecting it to change from that fekin 'processing your order' this week as I was told (second date) it would be built 8th August :(
Oh well ! back to the fermented apple juice!

Rik
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: allycat45 on 19 July 2013, 08:17
I emailed the dealer yesterday for an update since no news for 3 weeks and no change on the order tracker.

My original order was 26 March but subsequently cancelled.

I reordered again on 13 June and was given the same allocation slot they had given me before as no-one else had taken it in the meantime. They estimated build week 40 at that point which was subsequently changed to week 36 and now they say "Confirmed Week 37" which is w/c 9 Sept, and they said "if we are lucky, should get delivery by end of September". Still no change on the tracker though ...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 22 July 2013, 13:29
I just got the confirmed build date from my dealer, week 33.

Said we should get the car in September.  Week 33 is in August, which is when the factory is shut down, so how are they going to build it?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JJH on 22 July 2013, 13:42
The dont shut down for the whole of August, I'm wk33 too....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 July 2013, 13:45
BW33 is the first week back I think; I'm also that week - week commencing 12th August - which means our cars will be started to be built 3 weeks today!  Exciting!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 22 July 2013, 14:11
You aren't far from me Matchboy.  Perhaps we should meet up somewhere scenic when they arrive and do a photo shoot of your red next to my Oryx, would look well cool.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 July 2013, 14:22
You aren't far from me Matchboy.  Perhaps we should meet up somewhere scenic when they arrive and do a photo shoot of your red next to my Oryx, would look well cool.

Don't fall for it matchboy!  He just wants to show off that he's got the most expensive colour! :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 July 2013, 15:30
You aren't far from me Matchboy.  Perhaps we should meet up somewhere scenic when they arrive and do a photo shoot of your red next to my Oryx, would look well cool.

Don't fall for it matchboy!  He just wants to show off that he's got the most expensive colour! :whistle:

Haha but do you have the 19s pauliem, if not then your fancy paint is cancelled out by my bigger wheels  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 22 July 2013, 15:34
13 Weeks since ordering and I still have no confirmed build week. I've made it known I'm not very happy to my dealer for the first time as before I didn't really mind as long as it was here for 1st September, but this is looking less and less likely as the weeks roll on.  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 July 2013, 16:15
Well I ordered on May 15th and still processing. Hoping this Thursday to move to a build date. (Or is the Thursday update thing still a guess)?

It all seems a bit random. Has anyone got a GTD with panoramic roof in transit?

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 July 2013, 16:29
13 Weeks since ordering and I still have no confirmed build week. I've made it known I'm not very happy to my dealer for the first time as before I didn't really mind as long as it was here for 1st September, but this is looking less and less likely as the weeks roll on.  :sad:

3 months and no confirmed date.  Crazy.

No way it will be here for 1st Sept, sorry mate.  My current estimate for mine is first week of October.  That is based off my own calculations, not off VW BS.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dervy on 22 July 2013, 16:41
Well I ordered on May 15th and still processing. Hoping this Thursday to move to a build date. (Or is the Thursday update thing still a guess)?

It all seems a bit random. Has anyone got a GTD with panoramic roof in transit?


ordered my GTD on 3rd April, build week originally wk36, but that became confirmed as wk25. Shown as "in transit" on the Wednesday of the build week and stayed that way for two and a half weeks and then arrived at the dears on the 15th July - 2 days after I had gone overseas for 10 days!!!!!! It's pure white, DSG, leather, pano roof, discover nav, dynaudio and service pack. Picking it up on Wednesday. Dealer says it is receiving loads of positive comments.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 July 2013, 16:48
Well I ordered on May 15th and still processing. Hoping this Thursday to move to a build date. (Or is the Thursday update thing still a guess)?

It all seems a bit random. Has anyone got a GTD with panoramic roof in transit?


ordered my GTD on 3rd April, build week originally wk36, but that became confirmed as wk25. Shown as "in transit" on the Wednesday of the build week and stayed that way for two and a half weeks and then arrived at the dears on the 15th July - 2 days after I had gone overseas for 10 days!!!!!! It's pure white, DSG, leather, pano roof, discover nav, dynaudio and service pack. Picking it up on Wednesday. Dealer says it is receiving loads of positive comments.

Sounds awesome mate. Glad to hear the GTD's are getting out on the roads now! Photo's on Wednesday please.  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 22 July 2013, 16:56
Popped into my dealership today just to get a quick update and I've been told the car arrived in the UK last week and should be hopefully at the dealership by the end of this week  :smiley: I could possibly have it by this weekend if all things go well.

I also asked why my order had been so quick compared to others and he was basically struggling to answer. He said that I had just been fortunate and that perhaps the combination of the options I had added had caused no problems. This is because he did mention the reverse camera and the fact that VW had effectively run out of them.

The dealer also said that mine was going to be the first to arrive from their allocation

They had also in the last hour just received a GTD but I couldn't get pics unfortunately as it had been taken round the back to get prepped
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 22 July 2013, 18:34
13 Weeks since ordering and I still have no confirmed build week. I've made it known I'm not very happy to my dealer for the first time as before I didn't really mind as long as it was here for 1st September, but this is looking less and less likely as the weeks roll on.  :sad:

3 months and no confirmed date.  Crazy.

No way it will be here for 1st Sept, sorry mate.  My current estimate for mine is first week of October.  That is based off my own calculations, not off VW BS.

It's a nightmare, here's my reply:

Quote
I do agree with you and I can understand how disappointed you must feel.  I have attached a bulletin from Volkswagen regarding the current situation with car supply.  Your Golf still has a scheduled build week in September and after speaking to someone again at Volkswagen’s Sales Office, he feels there is a possibility of this coming forward a little.
 
I’m really sorry about this delay, I will obviously keep checking daily for you.
 
Kind regards,

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/AnthonyAndrades/Screenshot2013-07-22at183019_zpsa5ca9d0d.png)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 22 July 2013, 18:45
You aren't far from me Matchboy.  Perhaps we should meet up somewhere scenic when they arrive and do a photo shoot of your red next to my Oryx, would look well cool.

Don't fall for it matchboy!  He just wants to show off that he's got the most expensive colour! :whistle:

Haha but do you have the 19s pauliem, if not then your fancy paint is cancelled out by my bigger wheels  :grin:

Your bigger wheels are cancelled out by my, errrmm - Automatic parking system - cool aren't I?  :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dirvy on 22 July 2013, 19:44
I see it says 4 week shut down for gtis. 29-32
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 22 July 2013, 21:17
I noticed that and I'm supposed to be build week 32..
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dirvy on 22 July 2013, 22:44
Me too
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 22 July 2013, 22:46
I guess we are now build week 33 :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 23 July 2013, 12:18
Just got confirmed BW 35, so finally some light at the end of a very long tunnel :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 23 July 2013, 21:56

So has anyone that was Wk 32 checked to see if they are still Wk32 or if have they slipped?? As I'm 33 and wondered if I could slip even though still confirmed?!? Could go crosseyed!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 23 July 2013, 22:07
It is what it is, I'm sure you will be THRILLED once you get your GTI   :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 24 July 2013, 14:13
got an email from my dealer today with my cars order number, progress at last, now to find this tracker thingy so i can see what stage its at and get totally downhearted lol :embarrassed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 24 July 2013, 14:24
And just had a look, its at the processing your order stage :whistle: i gave them the order last week of march ffs....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 July 2013, 14:26
And just had a look, its at the processing your order stage :whistle: i gave them the order last week of march ffs....

Ah, another early order!  Join in the fun and enjoy watching others place orders and take delivery while you wait for a confirmed build week. :whistle: :undecided: :angry: :sick:

It really is super fun. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 24 July 2013, 14:28

Ah, another early order!  Join in the fun and enjoy watching others place orders and take delivery while you wait for a confirmed build week. :whistle: :undecided: :angry: :sick:

It really is super fun. :rolleyes:

Your in the same boat as me then , so to speak!....probably be xmas by the time it arrives
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 July 2013, 14:32
Your in the same boat as me then , so to speak!....probably be xmas by the time it arrives

You mean Christmas 2014 right? :laugh:

Yeah there was a brief moment of optimism a few weeks back when it seemed everyone had moved to a BW of 35.  Since that rug was pulled out from under us I've given up.

There is a BMW dealer just up from my house.  I drive past it every morning.  Its getting mighty tempting. :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 24 July 2013, 15:13
Your in the same boat as me then , so to speak!....probably be xmas by the time it arrives

You mean Christmas 2014 right? :laugh:

Yeah there was a brief moment of optimism a few weeks back when it seemed everyone had moved to a BW of 35.  Since that rug was pulled out from under us I've given up.

There is a BMW dealer just up from my house.  I drive past it every morning.  Its getting mighty tempting. :tongue:

Don't mention those three letters, I'd finally gotten the M135i out of my mind after I spat my dummy last week  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jsybrian on 24 July 2013, 19:05
Just this week priced a BMW135 like for like spec against Golf and surprised less than 2k difference in price ( BMW obviously the more expensive).Could be because I am in Jersey no VAT so maybe prices are closer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Neil_MK on 25 July 2013, 09:20
My BW28 GTI finally went to 'in transit' today - it appears BW28 also includes the shutdown weeks, where I'm told production continues but at a reduced capacity.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 25 July 2013, 12:42
My BW28 GTI finally went to 'in transit' today - it appears BW28 also includes the shutdown weeks, where I'm told production continues but at a reduced capacity.

Great news Neil. My 5dr GTi (Also in Pure White) was also confirmed for BW28, but unlike yours my has NOT gone into Transit which is a bit odd seeing that yours has???  :angry:

The wait continues... Lets hope its a glitch in the system
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 25 July 2013, 13:29
Weekly update from VW customer service:

1. 14 weeks since order placed, still no build week.
2. No explanation.
3. No surprise.

:cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JellyB on 25 July 2013, 13:43
Oh dear, I only ordered on July 6th. I guess I can forget a 2013 delivery date then judging by what I have been seeing here?

Shame, had been looking forward placing my first new vehicle order ever for quite a while and now it looks like being quite the opposite of what I expected.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Neil_MK on 25 July 2013, 14:04
My BW28 GTI finally went to 'in transit' today - it appears BW28 also includes the shutdown weeks, where I'm told production continues but at a reduced capacity.

Great news Neil. My 5dr GTi (Also in Pure White) was also confirmed for BW28, but unlike yours my has NOT gone into Transit which is a bit odd seeing that yours has???  :angry:

The wait continues... Lets hope its a glitch in the system

I'm sure it won't be long. Another guy earlier in this thread had his BW28 change to in transit last week, so looks like its a bit of a slow trickle of cars coming off the production line during 'shutdown'.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 27 July 2013, 12:46
Gone back another 2 weeks to 39. ::)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 27 July 2013, 12:53
Guys, if i am not even seeing a build date yet, i guess i can forget even seeing the car this year?? I cant get any sense from the dealer
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gordor on 27 July 2013, 12:58
Weekly update from VW customer service:

1. 14 weeks since order placed, still no build week.
2. No explanation.
3. No surprise.

:cry: :cry: :cry:


Feeling for ya Bill
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 27 July 2013, 13:23
Guys, if i am not even seeing a build date yet, i guess i can forget even seeing the car this year?? I cant get any sense from the dealer


You won't see a build week on the tracker mate, you need to ask your dealer or VWCS for an update.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 27 July 2013, 13:58

You won't see a build week on the tracker mate, you need to ask your dealer or VWCS for an update.
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Ahh ok, im in limbo then, all i see on that tracker is the processing your order, for the last 14 weeks lol..

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 27 July 2013, 14:36
Gone back another 2 weeks to 39. ::)

Few weeks back it was 35 wasn't it?  Did they give any reason at all why the already unacceptable lead time has been delayed by a whole further month?!?!  And why even give an estimate if it then turns out to be this seriously wrong?  That's not an estimate, that's a hope or a dream.  FFS VW get your act together.

I am getting pretty worried that this rear camera thing is causing us months of new delays despite them saying it only affects new July orders and we ordered in April.  I'm getting really really close to asking for some kind of further discount to compensate for this sh!t.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 27 July 2013, 14:59
Your right bill, im sure it the damn rear cam... not sure how much more patience i have left , i might just cancel and take a look at the bmw instead
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 27 July 2013, 15:03
Gone back another 2 weeks to 39. ::)

Few weeks back it was 35 wasn't it?  Did they give any reason at all why the already unacceptable lead time has been delayed by a whole further month?!?!  And why even give an estimate if it then turns out to be this seriously wrong?  That's not an estimate, that's a hope or a dream.  FFS VW get your act together.

I am getting pretty worried that this rear camera thing is causing us months of new delays despite them saying it only affects new July orders and we ordered in April.  I'm getting really really close to asking for some kind of further discount to compensate for this sh!t.


Yeah it's gone back week for week over the last month, it was another salesman i spoke to at my dealership as my contact is on holiday till tuesday, the reason i contacted them today was that i was told by VWCS that it "should" be going to confirmed within the next 10 days of last wednesday and it hadn't changed on the tracker, surprise surprise! ::)


The only reason that salesman could give was down to spec, he pulled up his own customers GTI order that went in on the same day as mine, it went from wk22 to 35 and was then confirmed on the 1st of july as wk32, he did say that the GTI/D's have always been the problem child for build slots and it seems the new one is no different! Fair comment i suppose.


Oh well, the wait continues......
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 July 2013, 17:31
Just to throw this into the ring, been out and about to various car dealers today - and BMW told me lead times on a new car is 8-10 weeks. I know the GTI is new - but 20+ weeks, really??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 27 July 2013, 17:42
Just to throw this into the ring, been out and about to various car dealers today - and BMW told me lead times on a new car is 8-10 weeks. I know the GTI is new - but 20+ weeks, really??

Can you trust them before you sign on the dotted line though?  My dealer told me 3 months for the GTI delivery end of July, which is now I guess.  Not long after I paid the deposit I was told no delivery until October and there is still no BW in sight.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 July 2013, 17:47
Just to throw this into the ring, been out and about to various car dealers today - and BMW told me lead times on a new car is 8-10 weeks. I know the GTI is new - but 20+ weeks, really??

Can you trust them before you sign on the dotted line though?  My dealer told me 3 months for the GTI delivery end of July, which is now I guess.  Not long after I paid the deposit I was told no delivery until October and there is still no BW in sight.

Probably not! But if their conservative estimates are 10 weeks that must imply that waiting times aren't as bad as with VW!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 27 July 2013, 17:54
Just to throw this into the ring, been out and about to various car dealers today - and BMW told me lead times on a new car is 8-10 weeks. I know the GTI is new - but 20+ weeks, really??

Can you trust them before you sign on the dotted line though?  My dealer told me 3 months for the GTI delivery end of July, which is now I guess.  Not long after I paid the deposit I was told no delivery until October and there is still no BW in sight.

Probably not! But if their conservative estimates are 10 weeks that must imply that waiting times aren't as bad as with VW!

On the 1 series forums 8-10 weeks seems about right for the M135i.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 27 July 2013, 18:24
For most cars without a strict allocation you are talking 10 to 12 weeks lead time. Order a GT Golf and you will only wait that long. I assume BMW don't have any strict allocations for the 135 that must be adhered to.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 28 July 2013, 03:33
So... Has anyone who has had their car delivered got a Rear View camera?  Is there anyone who has the option who has a confirmed BW?  I know mine is still estimated.  Sound like the rear view camera could cause further delays  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Snoopy on 28 July 2013, 08:51
I wouldn't beleive a thing they tell you whats causing the delay as it will keep changing.
This delay and more delay is just VW style. I'll calll it style rather than mismanagement as they did it in 2009 and 2005.
Its standard practice for them. It also seems standard practice to mess you about.
I dont know if they think if they do this it makes the cars more sort after or attractive or what but I just find it poor customer service and im glad im not involved with it a 3rd time.
 :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 July 2013, 08:58
I wouldn't beleive a thing they tell you whats causing the delay as it will keep changing.
This delay and more delay is just VW style. I'll calll it style rather than mismanagement as they did it in 2009 and 2005.
Its standard practice for them. It also seems standard practice to mess you about.
I dont know if they think if they do this it makes the cars more sort after or attractive or what but I just find it poor customer service and im glad im not involved with it a 3rd time.
 :undecided:

The strict allocation (and ordering issues that ensue) is probably the primary reason for such great residuals - demand exceeding supply.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: allycat45 on 28 July 2013, 09:45
So... Has anyone who has had their car delivered got a Rear View camera?  Is there anyone who has the option who has a confirmed BW?  I know mine is still estimated.  Sound like the rear view camera could cause further delays  :sad:

I have the rear view camera on my order and the dealer tells me the build week is confirmed as week 37. Still "doing paperwork" on the order tracker though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 28 July 2013, 09:55
I'd be surprised if your confirmed 37 as things can and will change in the next 6 to 7 weeks. the fact the rear view camera has been taken off the options list must mean something and not just VW style of doing something. carsystems are selling genuine camera kits for 350 euros which is way more than a factory order but I'm seriously tempted by it. cancel the camera from VW and get it retro fitted later.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 28 July 2013, 11:00
That's good news on the confirmed for 37 AlleyCat - I'm unconfirmed for 39.  I would hope that if you are confirmed then VW's options to dick you about are reduced.  What's the bets on the Rear View camera re-appearing with the price mysteriously doubled?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: allycat45 on 28 July 2013, 11:09
I am hoping the dealer's "confirmed week 37" can be trusted, but as mcmaddy says, it might change again !

I've resigned myself to wait now so we will see what August brings; I'm going on holiday 2-17 August and will chase the dealer again for an update when I'm back (will check the tracker while I'm away of course  :grin:)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 July 2013, 16:17
I am hoping the dealer's "confirmed week 37" can be trusted, but as mcmaddy says, it might change again !

I've resigned myself to wait now so we will see what August brings; I'm going on holiday 2-17 August and will chase the dealer again for an update when I'm back (will check the tracker while I'm away of course  :grin:)

I don't think it's confirmed until the tracker says so, and with more than 4 production weeks between now and week 37 VW have no reason to lock it out yet. You should get confirmed in week 33 (is it week 31 tomorrow?) for definite with no VW take-backs.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: physio on 28 July 2013, 16:27
My build week  is 36 , still awaiting final confirmation , dealer says it should be confirmed within 3weeks
I have rear view camera on order as well
Will post any info I get on here
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 28 July 2013, 16:53
My build week  is 36 , still awaiting final confirmation , dealer says it should be confirmed within 3weeks
I have rear view camera on order as well
Will post any info I get on here

I'm in exactly the same position. Having bad feelings that the bw is going to get pushed back again though  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 28 July 2013, 17:55
I'm bw36 and have ordered the rear camera. if it's bumped again then I'm removing the camera and will seek some form of compensation.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 28 July 2013, 18:56
It would be interesting to know, but unlikely to find out if there are delays for other markets with Rear View Camera (Germany, Holland, France etc.)

I have it on my order and I'm not taking if off even if there is a further delay, I'm told I'm now BW36 by my dealer.  Have been promised an 'accurate' update by Wednesday 31st  :whistle:

I'm not in any rush as posted before, however I would like an accurate BW  :huh: 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 28 July 2013, 18:59
With all the talk of Dynaudio just lately i've been toying with the idea of adding it to my order??? But would it delay the order this far down the line?.............. :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 July 2013, 19:15
With all the talk of Dynaudio just lately i've been toying with the idea of adding it to my order??? But would it delay the order this far down the line?.............. :whistle:

Can't be as bad as the delay on the camera!  :tongue:

I heard it yesterday in a GTD demo, the sound was outstanding.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 28 July 2013, 19:39
I heard it yesterday in a GTD demo, the sound was outstanding.
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'outstanding' I wouldn't go that far at least not 500 quids worth!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 July 2013, 20:20
I heard it yesterday in a GTD demo, the sound was outstanding.

'outstanding' I wouldn't go that far at least not 500 quids worth!
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Funny, cause I would have paid more for it - £500 is a steal IMO  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 28 July 2013, 22:01
Dynaudio was the first option I added.

Turning up the sound when the mood takes you and then..Distorted, buzzing bass because the standard speakers can't handle it. No thanks.

Clear vocals and punchy, independent bass please.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 28 July 2013, 23:15
nothing wrong with the standard system and certainly no speaker distortion that I've ever come across.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 28 July 2013, 23:25
Girlfriend has got the standard system in a Golf that she just got.  It is not a patch on Dynaudio in my Scirocco - I wouldn't be without it.  The two systems are in completely different leagues.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 29 July 2013, 14:48
Just received a letter from VWUK

I am pleased you have chosen to order a VW golf and thank you for your custom. I regret however, that the delivery times for some models have extended significantly beyond the norm, something which has impacted your order.

The delays have been caused by the actual level of demand exceeding planed production and we have taken all steps available to overcome this in the shortest possible timescale. I fully understand this explination does not resolve any inconvience or disappointment you may have experienced as a result, for which I apologise.

I am pleased to advise that we now have secured a build slot for your order and hence, from this point onwards, your VW retailer will be in a position to provide progress updates on build, shipping and handover.

In recognition of the delay and your patience, I have enclosed a small goodwill gesture in the form of some "Lesiure vouchers" that can be redeemed against a wide range of goods and services.

Once again, I apologise for the delay and hope when you take delivery of your new car, it will make the wait worthwhile and provide many years of pleasurable driving.

Yours sincerely
Robert Hazelwood
Director of Volkswagen


Vouchers were worth £50, and I got my confirmed BW two weeks ago (wk35). Only think I received this letter because I had a rant at my dealer last week regarding the delay (was originally told end of July delivery, now going to be end of September). Either that or VW are sending these letters out to people who are waiting longer than expected.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 29 July 2013, 16:46
I think myself and a lot of others have been waiting a very long time and have not, or even probably will not receive such a letter or good will gesture.  As mentioned many times before I have an unconfirmed BW34.  But I am now concerned it may not be the case as I am seeing examples such as yours with BW35's being confirmed?   
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 July 2013, 17:15
A result of sorts, but in the grand scheme of things £50 goodwill gesture on a £26k+ car is not a lot. It probably wouldn't have cost them any more to offer you £150 worth of VW accessories.

You finally got a build week confirmed though. How much correspondance did you need to get to this point?

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 29 July 2013, 17:59
A result of sorts, but in the grand scheme of things £50 goodwill gesture on a £26k+ car is not a lot. It probably wouldn't have cost them any more to offer you £150 worth of VW accessories.

You finally got a build week confirmed though. How much correspondance did you need to get to this point?



I changed part of my order about 6 weeks ago as I still hadn't a confirmed BW and was told that it wouldn't alter my estimated BW which was BW 36. At the time I told my dealer I wasn't happy about how long after ordering (1/05) that I still hadn't a confirmed BW. When my tracker changed to confirmed BW, I then phoned the dealer to get the confirmed BW I spoke to the manager and again expressed my displeasure at the long wait and he basically said it was down to the way cars had been allocated and high demand. He also said that the original estimate of a 12 week lead time was the GTI/GTD were classed as normal Golfs in their estimates.  Then next thing I know I received this letter today.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 29 July 2013, 18:57
A result of sorts, but in the grand scheme of things £50 goodwill gesture on a £26k+ car is not a lot. It probably wouldn't have cost them any more to offer you £150 worth of VW accessories.

You finally got a build week confirmed though. How much correspondance did you need to get to this point?



I changed part of my order about 6 weeks ago as I still hadn't a confirmed BW and was told that it wouldn't alter my estimated BW which was BW 36. At the time I told my dealer I wasn't happy about how long after ordering (1/05) that I still hadn't a confirmed BW. When my tracker changed to confirmed BW, I then phoned the dealer to get the confirmed BW I spoke to the manager and again expressed my displeasure at the long wait and he basically said it was down to the way cars had been allocated and high demand. He also said that the original estimate of a 12 week lead time was the GTI/GTD were classed as normal Golfs in their estimates.  Then next thing I know I received this letter today.


Yup, seriously wide of the mark! It'll be around 26 weeks for me if my week stays where it is, currently 39. :sick:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: domrees on 29 July 2013, 22:35
I got vouchers today too.

Personally I think it is a nice touch.

They didn't have to do that and I am grateful for the gesture.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 July 2013, 07:58
I got vouchers today too.

Personally I think it is a nice touch.

They didn't have to do that and I am grateful for the gesture.

I take it you have to complaint to someone high up to get these vouchers rather than VW UK looking at everyone with say, more than 20 weeks wait and dishing them out without asking for a goodwill gesture or lodging a complaint. I myself will be looking at 23 weeks from ordering to delivery despite being the first order in at my dealership and no options to delay things.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: domrees on 30 July 2013, 09:04
Didn't really complain. When I spoke to vw uk I just expressed my disappointment.

I would imagine most retail customers who placed an order in April or earlier will get the same letter

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: domrees on 30 July 2013, 10:44
Monkey hanger, did you order direct with local dealer or through broker?
(I.e. retail or fleet ?)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 July 2013, 10:48
Monkey hanger, did you order direct with local dealer or through broker?
(I.e. retail or fleet ?)

Are you wondering if this makes any difference?  Not sure but I doubt it.  I'm pretty sure MH is direct, but I went through a broker and ended up on fleet.  We're both looking at significantly more than 20 weeks on April orders.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: domrees on 30 July 2013, 12:01
Well it will make a difference on lead times and communication.
If a fleet deal I doubt they will bother sending letter and vouchers etc. could be wrong.

Also as you know brokers sell via dealer fleet dept. so dealer has to potentially build up an order batch to send off. If lucky then you get in at same time order goes off. If unlucky you have to wait until order batch is completed.
That might account for the extended delay
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 July 2013, 12:19
Also as you know brokers sell via dealer fleet dept. so dealer has to potentially build up an order batch to send off. If lucky then you get in at same time order goes off. If unlucky you have to wait until order batch is completed.
That might account for the extended delay

I dunno that it works like that.  Maybe its different at different dealers, but the fleet department I was given just ordered mine immediately, just the one car.  I understand the broker guarantees them a certain number of orders but I don't think there is any requirement to hold off on orders until a certain number are ready to go at once.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 July 2013, 12:25
Monkey hanger, did you order direct with local dealer or through broker?
(I.e. retail or fleet ?)

Direct, straight through to the dealership via the normal retail channels. A cracking p/x (which is looking better now, given the lateness of my order) and some freebies which at the time stacked up well against no broker offers against the GTD (maybe I should've waited a month or 2 to order).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 July 2013, 12:33
Didn't really complain. When I spoke to vw uk I just expressed my disappointment.

I would imagine most retail customers who placed an order in April or earlier will get the same letter

I doubt VW will do that - not many companies give money away that they don't have to, and as I haven't complained to them, I don’t think they will correspond with me to give me £50. I have rang them up a few times to check on my build date which has shuffled around considerably (BW26>27>26>33 –confirmed).

I attribute my wait time to the dealership error after I had changed my order and they changed my dad’s instead, then changed mine a lot later. On paper it would seem that it is not VW’s fault for my delay (although the availability of demo cars before my own March order is still a bit of a piss take).
I would hope that if they were intending to offer gestures about that I hadn’t specifically triggered with complaint, I would get one as a loyal customer of 6 previous VWs bought new.

My dealer has been very good with communication up until the point my build week was locked out (a weekly update), and again to offer me first crack to buy one of the 3 GTD demos that came into the group, and again to offer me a test drive.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 July 2013, 12:36
Didn't really complain. When I spoke to vw uk I just expressed my disappointment.

I would imagine most retail customers who placed an order in April or earlier will get the same letter

I doubt VW will do that - not many companies give money away that they don't have to, and as I haven't complained to them, I don’t think they will correspond with me to give me £50.

I bet it doesn't cost them much, or even anything.  Depends what these vouchers are but if they are of the "£50 off a holiday" kind then VW probably get them near enough free as its just a promotion!

"Yes, you may be inuring £1000 additional cost due to the extra wait, but here is 5% of that, that cost us nothing, and you can only get it if you spend more money!  See how good we are to you?"  Yeah, yeah I do.  Thanks VW. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 30 July 2013, 12:46
I have just checked my Build Week status with my dealer after noticing some Build Week 35's being confirmed, even though I was Build Week 34 Unconfirmed.  I have now been told I am moved back to Build Week 36.  This is all starting to grate on my patience. I am usually very patient.  But the case of uncertainty followed by disappointment of further delays just kills all excitement I first had.  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 30 July 2013, 12:49
I have just checked my Build Week status with my dealer after noticing some Build Week 35's being confirmed, even though I was Build Week 34 Unconfirmed.  I have now been told I am moved back to Build Week 36.  This is all starting to grate on my patience. I am usually very patient.  But the case of uncertainty followed by disappointment of further delays just kills all excitement I first had.  :sad:

When did you place your order?  I've been waiting since mid April and some even longer....  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: domrees on 30 July 2013, 13:06
That's pretty harsh Bill.

If you really don't value the letter of apology or the vouchers then perhaps you would be better donating them to a charity of some sort? I'm sure they would gratefully accept them.

Seems to me that whatever they did you would not be too happy about it!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 30 July 2013, 13:08
That's pretty harsh Bill.

If you really don't value the letter of apology or the vouchers then perhaps you would be better donating them to a charity of some sort? I'm sure they would gratefully accept them.

Seems to me that whatever they did you would not be too happy about it!

to be fair domrees, bill ordered early April - and still hasn't got a confirmed BW.  So not harsh at all IMO.  £50 vouchers is p!ss poor and more of a slap in the face than anything else.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: RikWebb on 30 July 2013, 13:15
That's pretty harsh Bill.

If you really don't value the letter of apology or the vouchers then perhaps you would be better donating them to a charity of some sort? I'm sure they would gratefully accept them.

Seems to me that whatever they did you would not be too happy about it!

LOL = I think giving Bill his car might make him happy - that's all he wants!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 July 2013, 13:18
I dunno whether its harsh or not.  Is it accurate is the question?  I've not been offered any vouchers anyway.  If its true they are something like £50 off a holiday, or some other offer, then that's just the facts.  Seems to me if that is harsh then its an indictment of VW not of me. :wink:

Perhaps I'm rushing to judge.  I've not had good experiences with companies offering these kings of gestures.  More often than not it seems to be more of a bribe to avoid a further complaint.  BT recently had me take a day off work and wait for an engineer at home only for the engineer to not turn up.  I called them and literally this was the response "Oh yes, we changed the appointment last week and it seems the engineer forgot to tell you."  I complained and after weeks of them fobbing me off I was eventually offered "£10 compensation".  It is experiences like these that make me assume the worst.

I'm gonna go have lunch and calm down now.  And try hard not to call BMW.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: domrees on 30 July 2013, 13:29
It's £50 leisure vouchers to use on high st, hotels etc.  It will pay for a family meal or entrance to London Zoo or something. Not extravagant but still a nice gesture.

I would say the weak link in your chain was ordering via a broker. Sounds like you are one of the unfortunate ones that have to wait longer (as per my previous post, waiting for the order batch to build up).

But on the flip side you most likely got a higher level of discount than I did.

All is fair is love, war, and ordering new VWs
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 July 2013, 13:33
But the case of uncertainty followed by disappointment of further delays just kills all excitement I first had.  :sad:

My real excitement died off about 6 weeks ago. My Scirocco is keeping me happy at the moment. If you stick with BW36 then you should see your build confirmed on the tracker Thurs or Fri this week (I got confirmed 4 production weeks and a few days before the week, so end of BW31 should do it).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 July 2013, 14:13
I would say the weak link in your chain was ordering via a broker. Sounds like you are one of the unfortunate ones that have to wait longer (as per my previous post, waiting for the order batch to build up).

But on the flip side you most likely got a higher level of discount than I did.

All is fair is love, war, and ordering new VWs

And as per my previous post the car was ordered immediately, there is no batch.  I didn't get a better discount than people have got privately either.

I'm not sure what you are suggesting is fair here?  Are you suggesting the ~24 weeks (and still might be longer) wait is fair?  Or are you suggesting because you failed to get a discount that those of us with ever lengthening delays can't complain?  I fail to see how the two are linked to be honest. :huh:

Anyway, I'm glad you are happy with your vouchers.  Unfortunately I can neither be happy nor unhappy with them as I haven't been offered any. :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: SF-GTD on 30 July 2013, 14:20
My letter of apology and £50 of vouchers just dropped through the door from VW.  I've never complained about the wait to either my dealer, or VW.  This suggests to me that VW are working through the impacted customers and so I hope this means everyone in the same position gets an equal gesture.

I see there's been debate about the value of such a gesture, but I'm pleased they have done this.  If they were only doing it for people who had complained then I'd have an issue with inconsistent service.

I suppose everyone will have an opinion of whether £50 is reasonable, but for me I have not been financially inconvenienced by this delay so I'm fine with the level of gesture they have made.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 July 2013, 14:22
I would say the weak link in your chain was ordering via a broker. Sounds like you are one of the unfortunate ones that have to wait longer (as per my previous post, waiting for the order batch to build up).

But on the flip side you most likely got a higher level of discount than I did.

All is fair is love, war, and ordering new VWs

And as per my previous post the car was ordered immediately, there is no batch.  I didn't get a better discount than people have got privately either.

I'm not sure what you are suggesting is fair here?  Are you suggesting the ~24 weeks (and still might be longer) wait is fair?  Or are you suggesting because you failed to get a discount that those of us with ever lengthening delays can't complain?  I fail to see how the two are linked to be honest. :huh:

Anyway, I'm glad you are happy with your vouchers.  Unfortunately I can neither be happy nor unhappy with them as I haven't been offered any. :whistle:

Just to add to this, i'm in a similar situation to Bill with the wait, however i ordered direct with a dealer so i don't think the broker is the weak link in this instance.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: MkVIIGTD on 30 July 2013, 14:26
Same as myself Jimble... My order is similar to yours but in a GTD! What unconfirmed BW do u have?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: domrees on 30 July 2013, 14:37
I would say the weak link in your chain was ordering via a broker. Sounds like you are one of the unfortunate ones that have to wait longer (as per my previous post, waiting for the order batch to build up).

But on the flip side you most likely got a higher level of discount than I did.

All is fair is love, war, and ordering new VWs

And as per my previous post the car was ordered immediately, there is no batch.  I didn't get a better discount than people have got privately either.

I'm not sure what you are suggesting is fair here?  Are you suggesting the ~24 weeks (and still might be longer) wait is fair?  Or are you suggesting because you failed to get a discount that those of us with ever lengthening delays can't complain?  I fail to see how the two are linked to be honest. :huh:

Anyway, I'm glad you are happy with your vouchers.  Unfortunately I can neither be happy nor unhappy with them as I haven't been offered any. :whistle:

I didnt say I failed to get a discount.  I'm just attempting to help you feel better about the situation because you most likely got a higher %age off than someone who walked into a dealer.  Fact of the matter is, there can be a delay when ordering via a broker. Not all the time, but sometimes. 

Anyway, forget it.  It's a bit academic now I guess.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 July 2013, 14:39
I didnt say I failed to get a discount.  I'm just attempting to help you feel better about the situation because you most likely got a higher %age off than someone who walked into a dealer.

Apologies for misunderstanding you.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 July 2013, 14:58
All,

Got a call from my dealer.  Here is a summary of the conversation I just had:
Hmm.

I have the sinking feeling that they don't put parts aside for orders.  Perhaps everytime mine is ready to be built they go "whoops, run out of part X" and then while they get part X something else (like the camera) runs out and the whole faf starts over again.  If true perhaps my car will never be built. :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 30 July 2013, 15:11
All,

Got a call from my dealer.  Here is a summary of the conversation I just had:
  • I am now BW36 (unconfirmed).  Already knew it was 36 or later.  Dealer sounds confident of end of September delivery.  Don't know if I should believe it. :undecided:
  • Reversing camera is no longer available if you order now (which we know).
  • Reversing camera is not being fitted to cars currently being built.  It *might* be back in stock by the time mine is built.  This sounds suspiciously like they might pull it even if you ordered it back in April!  Hopefully dealer is wrong about this. :angry:
  • Is the reversing camera the hold up then?  No, apparently its the "engine".  I assume this means they don't have enough 2.0TSIs to fulfil all orders.
  • Dealer says no GTIs or GTDs are coming though.  I point out they are.  Dealer says they are a large dealer with many orders and have had only 1 GTI and 1 GTD arrive so far and 1 more is currently in build. :shocked:
  • When can I expect to go confirmed?  A "few" weeks before week 36... unless it moves back again. :rolleyes:
  • Her parting shot was "you do have a lot of spec".  So?  You just said its the engine that is the hold up.  If the engine is the hold up can't everything else be prepared in the meantime? :huh:
Hmm.

I have the sinking feeling that they don't put parts aside for orders.  Perhaps everytime mine is ready to be built they go "whoops, run out of part X" and then while they get part X something else (like the camera) runs out and the whole faf starts over again.  If true perhaps my car will never be built. :cry:

Sorry to hear that bill, tell you what though if mine turns up without the camera I'm going to be mighty pissed off.  What action will I take  :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 July 2013, 15:24
Sorry to hear that bill, tell you what though if mine turns up without the camera I'm going to be mighty pissed off.  What action will I take  :undecided:

Hey man,

I'm hoping its just the dealer talking crazy, but I don't know whether to believe them or to believe the VW statement that orders prior to July are unaffected.  If its true they could reimburse the cost (obviously), they could offer compensation, they could offer to fit it later... dunno really.

Hopefully won't come to that.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 July 2013, 16:01
Thats total bollocks Bill your dealer is talking sh!te. I spoke to my dealer on saturday morning and ive spoken to VW today and mine definitely has the camera still on and at this stage is due for BW36.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 July 2013, 16:09
Thats total nuts Bill your dealer is talking sh!te. I spoke to my dealer on saturday morning and ive spoken to VW today and mine definitely has the camera still on and at this stage is due for BW36.

To be clear mine still has the camera on.  But they also said it "might be back in stock by the time its built".  Problem is those statements seem a little conflicting!

In hindsight I guess she could have meant that mine still has the camera and that it might be back in stock for new orders by the time mine is being built.  She had just mentioned that it is not available for new orders right now so perhaps I misunderstood.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: physio on 30 July 2013, 16:59
All,

Got a call from my dealer.  Here is a summary of the conversation I just had:
  • I am now BW36 (unconfirmed).  Already knew it was 36 or later.  Dealer sounds confident of end of September delivery.  Don't know if I should believe it. :undecided:
  • Reversing camera is no longer available if you order now (which we know).
  • Reversing camera is not being fitted to cars currently being built.  It *might* be back in stock by the time mine is built.  This sounds suspiciously like they might pull it even if you ordered it back in April!  Hopefully dealer is wrong about this. :angry:
  • Is the reversing camera the hold up then?  No, apparently its the "engine".  I assume this means they don't have enough 2.0TSIs to fulfil all orders.
  • Dealer says no GTIs or GTDs are coming though.  I point out they are.  Dealer says they are a large dealer with many orders and have had only 1 GTI and 1 GTD arrive so far and 1 more is currently in build. :shocked:
  • When can I expect to go confirmed?  A "few" weeks before week 36... unless it moves back again. :rolleyes:
  • Her parting shot was "you do have a lot of spec".  So?  You just said its the engine that is the hold up.  If the engine is the hold up can't everything else be prepared in the meantime? :huh:
Hmm.

I have the sinking feeling that they don't put parts aside for orders.  Perhaps everytime mine is ready to be built they go "whoops, run out of part X" and then while they get part X something else (like the camera) runs out and the whole faf starts over again.  If true perhaps my car will never be built. :cry:

Better go out and buy a lottery ticket while your luck is in   :smiley:
Seriously though its about time you he'd a build date confirmed
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 30 July 2013, 17:07
What!!!  I ordered back in March & have I received any vouchers??? "HELL NO!"

I want my "Vouchers!" And I want them NOW!!!  :grin:

(There's probably a delay with the vouchers, just like with my bleedin order)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 30 July 2013, 17:08
I have just checked my Build Week status with my dealer after noticing some Build Week 35's being confirmed, even though I was Build Week 34 Unconfirmed.  I have now been told I am moved back to Build Week 36.  This is all starting to grate on my patience. I am usually very patient.  But the case of uncertainty followed by disappointment of further delays just kills all excitement I first had.  :sad:

When did you place your order?  I've been waiting since mid April and some even longer....  :cry:
I placed my order end of March.  It is getting way beyond a joke now.  I have seen so many other people I know getting their cars not long after ordering, all during the time I am waiting for mine. 

Also I had better have my Reversing Camera fitted, as I have waited so long, and to get not quite what you order after waiting as long as we all have is like receiving a defective xmas present after the long wait for xmas :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 30 July 2013, 17:09
To clarify the cars I see other people getting, are not VW.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 July 2013, 17:12
My vouchers turned up today!!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 July 2013, 17:13
To clarify the cars I see other people getting, are not VW.

However.  Some of them are!
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=254838

Ah well you gotta laugh eh? :laugh: :laugh: :grin: :smiley: :sad: :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 30 July 2013, 18:05
  • I am now BW36 (unconfirmed).  Already knew it was 36 or later.  Dealer sounds confident of end of September delivery.  Don't know if I should believe it. :undecided:

Still seems unreal that you and others are still waiting just for a confirmed build date Bill!

End of September seems optimistic when I'm confirmed week 33 and my dealer recons I won't get mine until mid September. Either mine is overly cautious or yours is very optimistic / telling porkies  :sad:

I guess it wouldn't be quite as bad (use that term loosly) if you at least have it confirmed. Then chance how far away it is (within a reasonable time period) at least you know its set in stone for that time!

Unreal. Hope you get some better news soon.

On the subject of these vouchers it certainly wouldn't cheer me up if I was in that position. Especially if I had a rear view camera on order and one of the vouchers that turns up is "good for one free rear view camera"  :laugh: (too soon?)  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 July 2013, 18:56
End of September seems optimistic when I'm confirmed week 33 and my dealer recons I won't get mine until mid September. Either mine is overly cautious or yours is very optimistic / telling porkies  :sad:

I'm week 33 too and my dealer is quite confident about a Sept 1st handover. Perhaps yours is looking at worst case scenario for shipping i.e. it gets to Emden via the train within 24 hours of factory release but then sits dockside for 2 weeks at the Emden end and another week at the UK end. My dealer did pull out all the stops for my dad's when it arrived in Tyne Dock, but I don't think he'll have time to give me that treatment if it lands in the UK at the end of August.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 30 July 2013, 20:36
End of September seems optimistic when I'm confirmed week 33 and my dealer recons I won't get mine until mid September. Either mine is overly cautious or yours is very optimistic / telling porkies  :sad:

I'm week 33 too and my dealer is quite confident about a Sept 1st handover. Perhaps yours is looking at worst case scenario for shipping i.e. it gets to Emden via the train within 24 hours of factory release but then sits dockside for 2 weeks at the Emden end and another week at the UK end. My dealer did pull out all the stops for my dad's when it arrived in Tyne Dock, but I don't think he'll have time to give me that treatment if it lands in the UK at the end of August.

I'm also BW33 and ill eat my hat if its ready to be picked up 1st Sep!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: snail_on_skunk on 30 July 2013, 20:45
Is it a tease or a piss take if I mention that today I done the pre delivery inspection for 2, 3 door black gti's

Not listing spec or reg just incase any them belong to anyone here!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 30 July 2013, 20:47
Is it a tease or a piss take if I mention that today I done the pre delivery inspection for 2, 3 door black gti's

Not listing spec or reg just incase any them belong to anyone here!

Yes!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 30 July 2013, 22:53
End of September seems optimistic when I'm confirmed week 33 and my dealer recons I won't get mine until mid September. Either mine is overly cautious or yours is very optimistic / telling porkies  :sad:

I'm week 33 too and my dealer is quite confident about a Sept 1st handover. Perhaps yours is looking at worst case scenario for shipping i.e. it gets to Emden via the train within 24 hours of factory release but then sits dockside for 2 weeks at the Emden end and another week at the UK end. My dealer did pull out all the stops for my dad's when it arrived in Tyne Dock, but I don't think he'll have time to give me that treatment if it lands in the UK at the end of August.

Ahh, yes perhaps its maybe just in case it has to wait for the next boat at dock. Hopefully not though, be nice if we can get them in the first week  :smiley: My dealer also 26th of aug as being the start of week 33, but I'm pretty sure its the 12th, so unless he based his delivery on that? but I am 100% confirmed wk 33 and I'm almost certain that's Aug 12th, so no reason why we shouldn't get them first week if they do jump straight onto a boat  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 July 2013, 07:47
My dealer also 26th of aug as being the start of week 33, but I'm pretty sure its the 12th, so unless he based his delivery on that? but I am 100% confirmed wk 33 and I'm almost certain that's Aug 12th, so no reason why we shouldn't get them first week if they do jump straight onto a boat  :grin:

BW33 definitely starts on the 12th.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 July 2013, 17:40
Had another call from VW, this time from Lisa at VWUK rather than the dealer.  She expects those estimated at BW36 to bcome confirmed "in a week... or maybe 2 weeks"

Oh yeah, forgot to say, she also said the reversing camera is not holding things up and if it or anything else was then she would call me immediately.  I guess that is good news for those of us worried about the camera!
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Post by: dirvy on 31 July 2013, 18:09
I'm week 32( next week yay) and dealer talking mid sept.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 July 2013, 18:21
Had another call from VW, this time from Lisa at VWUK rather than the dealer.  She expects those estimated at BW36 to bcome confirmed "in a week... or maybe 2 weeks"

Oh yeah, forgot to say, she also said the reversing camera is not holding things up and if it or anything else was then she would call me immediately.  I guess that is good news for those of us worried about the camera!

What she didn't tell you is that your keyless, ACC and sunroof are all hold-up items now.  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 July 2013, 18:23
I'm week 32( next week yay) and dealer talking mid sept.

If they're very slow with delivery then it could be mid Sept - you'd be talking about 4 weeks to deliver it if that's the case. Considering how quickly it moves to Emden from Wolfsburg on the train, the rest of the journey seems a complete piss-take.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 31 July 2013, 18:25
Had another call from VW, this time from Lisa at VWUK rather than the dealer.  She expects those estimated at BW36 to bcome confirmed "in a week... or maybe 2 weeks"

Oh yeah, forgot to say, she also said the reversing camera is not holding things up and if it or anything else was then she would call me immediately.  I guess that is good news for those of us worried about the camera!
Seeing as I am now Build Week 36 unconfirmed, thanks for the heads up Bill, the update on the situation is appreciated. I was getting a little concerned about the whole situation.  Will watch the Tracker with baited breath and hope to god I will see Build Week Confirmed soon. 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 31 July 2013, 20:43
I'm on unconfirmed build week 36 too and vw told me yesterday that they expect it to remain at bw36 now.
I have the reversing camera option and it didn't appear that this was an issue
Fingers (and everything else) crossed,,,,,,
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 31 July 2013, 20:56
My estimated week has come forward to 36 from 39 again! Dealer reckons it'll most likely go confirmed when Wolfsburg get going again?? ::)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 31 July 2013, 21:16
looks like they'll be busy in week 36 as mines due to be built then too  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redgolfgtd on 31 July 2013, 21:32
So busy they bumped mine to 37!!(unconfirmed) Am jealous ;)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: DougL on 01 August 2013, 07:22
Haven't checked recently but mine was moved from 37 to 36 a few weeks ago. Do we reckon the tracker will change tomorrow?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 August 2013, 07:42
Haven't checked recently but mine was moved from 37 to 36 a few weeks ago. Do we reckon the tracker will change tomorrow?

Late Thurs/Early Friday is when most of us here who are confirmed were confirmed in  any given week, so chances are it will be - as long as the administrators of the tracker haven't taken shutdown hols too.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 01 August 2013, 10:03
Haven't checked recently but mine was moved from 37 to 36 a few weeks ago. Do we reckon the tracker will change tomorrow?

Late Thurs/Early Friday is when most of us here who are confirmed were confirmed in  any given week, so chances are it will be - as long as the administrators of the tracker haven't taken shutdown hols too.

In my last call with VW it was implied the shut down may slow confirmations down.

Of course this might be just part of the general excuses and attempts to instil optimism!  I don't think they do it on purpose but every time I've spoken with them they have tried to spin things in an optimistic way, so not getting confirmed this week they want to interpret as a shut down problem, not as another change to the BW.

As usual I'm really hoping the tracker changes soon... hitting 'refresh' ten thousand times and seeing "processing" does tend to destroy your soul. :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 01 August 2013, 10:10
I feel your pain Bill  :sad:

I keep hoping that if I keep pressing refresh it will change eventually........
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 August 2013, 12:12
Haven't checked recently but mine was moved from 37 to 36 a few weeks ago. Do we reckon the tracker will change tomorrow?

Late Thurs/Early Friday is when most of us here who are confirmed were confirmed in  any given week, so chances are it will be - as long as the administrators of the tracker haven't taken shutdown hols too.

In my last call with VW it was implied the shut down may slow confirmations down.

Of course this might be just part of the general excuses and attempts to instil optimism!  I don't think they do it on purpose but every time I've spoken with them they have tried to spin things in an optimistic way, so not getting confirmed this week they want to interpret as a shut down problem, not as another change to the BW.

As usual I'm really hoping the tracker changes soon... hitting 'refresh' ten thousand times and seeing "processing" does tend to destroy your soul. :whistle:

I think it would be more soul destroying if your number had been confirmed and it reverted back to processing – hopefully that hasn’t happened to anyone yet (assuming allocation/reservation of parts for your build works correctly).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 01 August 2013, 17:46
As usual I'm really hoping the tracker changes soon... hitting 'refresh' ten thousand times and seeing "processing" does tend to destroy your soul. :whistle:

I know it's easy for me to say now, but honestly, I stopped bothering checking, and even ignored a few calls that I knew were coming from Customer Services.  When something like this consumes the majority of your thoughts, it kinda' takes away from it all, and so I can understand people considering canceling.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 01 August 2013, 19:00


Hey Bill, the admin Lady called me today from JCB VW, no change at their end but still confident that BW36 will take place.  I got the feeling that the Track my Order was a 'nice have' gimmick and not to be taken as gospel by her  :undecided:  anyway I'm feeling a good vibe for us limbo people.

Mystic Meg tells me delivery by........end of September, Mid October latest (don't sue me if I'm wrong)  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redgolfgtd on 02 August 2013, 20:22
 :laugh:Rang VW UK as I was sat in an audi dealer having my car serviced and very board they tell me BW36 confirmed..........fingers crossed thats better than 37 unconfirmed
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 03 August 2013, 09:02
A quick call to VW UK yesterday confirmed that my GTi will finally be built next week BW32, when the factory re-opens from its Summer Break (Bumped from BW28).  She (Jane) was confident of a late August, early September delivery... Movement at last!!! September still seems a long way away :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 August 2013, 09:39
A quick call to VW UK yesterday confirmed that my GTi will finally be built next week BW32, when the factory re-opens from its Summer Break (Bumped from BW28).  She (Jane) was confident of a late August, early September delivery... Movement at last!!! September still seems a long way away :sad:

Was your order on the tracker at "confirmed for build" 6 or 7 weeks ago? If not then this could be the first case we've seen of total tracker failure (assuming your order number was ever recognised on the tracker).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 03 August 2013, 10:59
A quick call to VW UK yesterday confirmed that my GTi will finally be built next week BW32, when the factory re-opens from its Summer Break (Bumped from BW28).  She (Jane) was confident of a late August, early September delivery... Movement at last!!! September still seems a long way away :sad:

Was your order on the tracker at "confirmed for build" 6 or 7 weeks ago? If not then this could be the first case we've seen of total tracker failure (assuming your order number was ever recognised on the tracker).

Spot on!! My order went to "Confirmed for Build" around 7 Weeks ago (June 23rd to be precise).

Dealer had confirmed BW28 (ie last week before the factory was due to shut down), but it must have missed the deadline and was pushed back. Not complaining really... September delivery will coincide with new reg. Hell I've waited four months!!! What's another four weeks  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 03 August 2013, 14:53
Oh? What date does the factory reopen?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 03 August 2013, 15:05
Oh? What date does the factory reopen?

I could be wrong, but the nice lady from VW said the 12 August..... And before anyone says "What 2014!"... NO!!!! This year apparently  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: p3asa on 03 August 2013, 15:39
Oh? What date does the factory reopen?

Week 34 according to AAddict's post here

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=252146.msg2361017#msg2361017

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/AnthonyAndrades/Screenshot2013-07-22at183019_zpsa5ca9d0d.png)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 03 August 2013, 16:00
The highlighted bit says between 29-32 for the factory that builds the GTI/D? ???
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 03 August 2013, 16:08
As far as I've been told, it was brought forward a week. Thus why initial BW 28 cars were bumped to BW 32 (Monday).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 August 2013, 16:17
Oh? What date does the factory reopen?

Week 34 according to AAddict's post here

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=252146.msg2361017#msg2361017

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/AnthonyAndrades/Screenshot2013-07-22at183019_zpsa5ca9d0d.png)

BW34? That's a 5 week shutdown. It's either BW32 opening (3 week shutdown) this coming Monday, or BW33 12th August (4 week shutdown). We've had official suggestion for both 3 week and 4 week shutdowns. General concensus right now is 4 weeks, although I haven't been told my BW33 has been bumped a week (as I would expect).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 03 August 2013, 16:18
what email address does everyone contact vw at? i used the website to ask them something about 2 weeks ago, no reply :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: p3asa on 03 August 2013, 16:23
The highlighted bit says between 29-32 for the factory that builds the GTI/D? ???

Yeah I've just noticed that although the bulletin says "All models" for weeks 28 to 34!!

I wonder if thats the general time the factory is shut however only certain production lines close down within that time.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 03 August 2013, 16:33
Well, a few weeks before the shutdown I was notified that my confirmed build week was 32 which fits with the graphic provided.  I haven't heard anything to the contrary but nor have I bothered to chase it either.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 03 August 2013, 16:56
Yep!!! She definitely said next week Week Commencing 12th August ie BW32.... I'm sure she wouldn't be yanking my chain just for the hell of it  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 August 2013, 17:15
Yep!!! She definitely said next week Week Commencing 12th August ie BW32.... I'm sure she wouldn't be yanking my chain just for the hell of it  :grin:

BW32 is W/C 05 Aug, W/C 12 Aug is BW33.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 03 August 2013, 17:17
Ooooops!!!! My Bad  :grin: Must be the Hot weather we've been having..  Just to confirm my order is due to be built next week BW32 W/c 5th August... Thanks for putting me straight bud.  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: DougL on 03 August 2013, 18:20
So the pic above says a 4 week shutdown between weeks 29 and 32. 29,30,31,32 inclusive. Zoom in and look at the red bit at the top right. First build week after shutdown is 33.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 03 August 2013, 18:28
Its a strange one that for sure. My build week was confirmed at 26 then 32 but I have the feeling its now likely to be 33 with the factory closure...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 03 August 2013, 18:31
So the pic above says a 4 week shutdown between weeks 29 and 32. 29,30,31,32 inclusive. Zoom in and look at the red bit at the top right. First build week after shutdown is 33.

Good point!  Still, I'll be contacting my dealer tomorrow to make sure build week 32 is still on, and if I get it fed bad to me that it's going to be 33, I'll be on the phone to exec customer services requesting my own set of vouchers  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: DougL on 03 August 2013, 18:34
I've got to the point where I believe nothing. The only good news is that I'm test driving a manual three door version without PP and with ACC tomorrow, which hopefully will be near enough in spec to mine (additional to my spec is ACC and Nav Pro). Haven't managed to drive one yet...  really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 03 August 2013, 18:39
To be truly honest I'm past caring.  It'll be built soon enough and then six weeks after that I'll be driving around in it and all the stress will be forgotten!

Hope the test drive goes well DougL.  I've not bothered as I want the first one I drive to be mine.  Still, I've got a Mk5 GTI now so really don't feel the need to.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 03 August 2013, 18:58
I have to say when I was in contact with the VW Executive Office they told me the shut down was 29-32 inclusive. Either way it's only an extra week and we've all waited so long anyway!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 03 August 2013, 19:14
Looking at the GTD thread loads of us are expecting a BW36, should be interesting  :shocked:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 03 August 2013, 21:56
I have to say when I was in contact with the VW Executive Office they told me the shut down was 29-32 inclusive. Either way it's only an extra week and we've all waited so long anyway!  :laugh:

The plot thickens!!!... She sounded so convincing as well when she told me production would begin next week (BW32). You just don't know who to believe, but like you said its only a weeks difference & we've waited this long already so its a case of just sucking it up!!!

I'd just wish they stop giving misleading information!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: RikWebb on 03 August 2013, 22:35
I've been told bw 37 for my GTD ?? perhaps the Germans come back off holiday when they are good and ready  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 August 2013, 08:05
Rik your build week is 1 after mine yet I ordered 6 and a half weeks earlier than you. nothing with these cars make any sense at all!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 04 August 2013, 11:00
Found out this morning my build week has slipped again to bw37 from bw36  :cry:

Getting so fed up of this.......................
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 August 2013, 13:11
I see you've ordered reversing camera? I bet that's the hold up.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 04 August 2013, 14:20
Yes I have ordered the reversing camera. I spoke to VWUK last week and they expected the car to go to BW36 confirmed so I thought the camera was no longer an issue

The wait continues.....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 04 August 2013, 15:14
I'm build week 32 (tomorrow) so sorting out all my MP3's onto SD card and ordering detailing products...  :smiley: Dealer thinks I should have it before September 1st (sounds optimistic, but hope she's right!)  :cool:

I'm actually tempted to look into Wolfsburg collection and doing the factory tour first. Dealer says they can arrange it with VW no problem and just need me to fill a form in to do it, before they give me the paperwork to take with me. (I can't get my head around how that works re plates and registration etc at the moment, but they say there's a way).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JellyB on 04 August 2013, 17:09
GtG, I'd be interested in the Wolfsburg collection if it's available to me, so please let us know the what the process is like!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 August 2013, 17:22
you can't do the Germany collect anymore so I was told. something to do with tax and vat and insurance and everything else we get ripped off with in this country  :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Nellymc on 04 August 2013, 17:51
At present only VW/SEAT cars ordered in Germany or Austria can be collected from Autostadt Wolfsburg

http://www.autostadt.de/en/car-collection/
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JellyB on 04 August 2013, 18:01
Oh well. Cheers guys for clarifying.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 04 August 2013, 18:09
At present only VW/SEAT cars ordered in Germany or Austria can be collected from Autostadt Wolfsburg

http://www.autostadt.de/en/car-collection/

They'll make an exception for UK Phaetons (who'd buy one though? Who wants a VW badge on an £80k car?)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 04 August 2013, 18:19
I can see nothing on that link states that you can't collect a car ordered outside of Germany or Austria.

As said previously, the dealer has informed me that I can fill in a form and they will provide the necessary documentation for me to collect the car. (They do this on a regular basis)

An update since then, the car will be insured by chassis number with a temporary license plate (Dealers trade plate) (I've done this before with American imports thinking about it), import taxes will be pre-paid, cross referenced to the chassis no. once the car arrives and it will be taken to DVLA and the correct plate issued.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 04 August 2013, 18:22
At present only VW/SEAT cars ordered in Germany or Austria can be collected from Autostadt Wolfsburg

http://www.autostadt.de/en/car-collection/

They'll make an exception for UK Phaetons (who'd buy one though? Who wants a VW badge on an £80k car?)

Maybe the person that gets a pre-reg one for less than a new Passat  :smug:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201308038140387/sort/default/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_100_miles/model/phaeton/make/volkswagen/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/postcode/la142at/radius/1500/advert-type/standard-listing?logcode=ucbnp (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201308038140387/sort/default/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_100_miles/model/phaeton/make/volkswagen/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/postcode/la142at/radius/1500/advert-type/standard-listing?logcode=ucbnp)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Nellymc on 04 August 2013, 18:25
It's in FAQ's, car collection


http://www.autostadt.de/en/visitor-information/faq/
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 04 August 2013, 18:35
ah ok seen it...

I don't think my dealer will be letting me jet off to Germany to collect if it's not possible though.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 04 August 2013, 19:36
ah ok seen it...

I don't think my dealer will be letting me jet off to Germany to collect if it's not possible though.

Would you seriously go if you could?!  As much as I'm looking forward to getting it, that would be a major headache in my view  :grin:  Happy to just collect from my dealer!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 04 August 2013, 20:18
Not sure, looking into the options.. but I have family in Belgium and friends in Germany so could kinda make a holiday out of it :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JellyB on 04 August 2013, 21:37
If I had the chance to collect from the factory I would probably go.

(If nothing else its something to plan in the 6 months waiting time.)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 04 August 2013, 21:41
At least if there was a problem with it they could knock you a fresh one up while you wait! ::) ;D
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 05 August 2013, 07:40
BW32 is upon us!! Here's hoping GTi production @ Wolfsburg recommences  :whistle: (I wait with baited breath)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 05 August 2013, 08:37
BW32 is upon us!! Here's hoping GTi production @ Wolfsburg recommences  :whistle: (I wait with baited breath)

I'm just writing an e-mail to my dealer right now!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 05 August 2013, 10:05
BW32 is upon us!! Here's hoping GTi production @ Wolfsburg recommences  :whistle: (I wait with baited breath)

I'm just writing an e-mail to my dealer right now!  :grin:

Just got back from my dealer just now (dropped off my Mk6 for a Service & MOT).... Was told the reason my build week was bumped was due to a delay with the ACC??? My car is due to go into production this week but he won't know for definite until 4pm this afternoon.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 05 August 2013, 18:31
I mailed my dealer this morning and he just called back to let me know that he spoke to VW, and confirmed that my car has gone into build as of this morning...  Finally starts to feel real at last!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 05 August 2013, 18:51
I was told this afternoon by Vw that mine is BW36... :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 05 August 2013, 18:52
I mailed my dealer this morning and he just called back to let me know that he spoke to VW, and confirmed that my car has gone into build as of this morning...  Finally starts to feel real at last!  :grin:

Good news Gryzor!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 05 August 2013, 18:59
Good news Gryzor!!

Yeah definitely, and at least it confirms that production did indeed start again at BW32 as opposed to BW33 as might have been the case.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 05 August 2013, 19:00
Good news Gryzor!!

Yeah definitely, and at least it confirms that production did indeed start again at BW32 as opposed to BW33 as might have been the case.

Yes, very interesting - especially given I was told production doesn't start until BW33 by VW - yet again proof that you shouldn't believe a word that comes out of their mouth!  Good for you though!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 05 August 2013, 19:08
Good news Gryzor!!

Yeah definitely, and at least it confirms that production did indeed start again at BW32 as opposed to BW33 as might have been the case.

Yeah great news Gryzor!!!! I also got confirmation that mine has gone into production as of today :smiley: Looks like they're building the 5 door Pure White models this week!.... Not long now...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 August 2013, 19:40
Good news Gryzor!!

Yeah definitely, and at least it confirms that production did indeed start again at BW32 as opposed to BW33 as might have been the case.

Yeah great news Gryzor!!!! I also got confirmation that mine has gone into production as of today :smiley: Looks like they're building the 5 door Pure White models this week!.... Not long now...

Wat? THEY FORGOT MINE DAMMIT! :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 05 August 2013, 19:48
Thanks for that number though Bill. The lady actually asked me where i got it from as i was called the executive number lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 05 August 2013, 20:43
Yes, very interesting - especially given I was told production doesn't start until BW33 by VW - yet again proof that you shouldn't believe a word that comes out of their mouth!  Good for you though!!  :laugh:

Cheers bud, and yeah, it just goes to show that you should take whatever they say with a pinch of salt!  For all I know I could have been told a big fat lie today and how would I know?!  :grin:

Yeah great news Gryzor!!!! I also got confirmation that mine has gone into production as of today :smiley: Looks like they're building the 5 door Pure White models this week!.... Not long now...

Nice one Gung-Ho, seems like this is a week they reserved for the best door and colour combination, except for Bear of course, wouldn't have been the same if they'd finally ended his misery (sorry mate, I do feel for ya'!)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 05 August 2013, 20:46
We should have a game of what day will my car leave the factory and move to the in transit status. Im going to guess Wednesday :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 05 August 2013, 20:49
We should have a game of what day will my car leave the factory and move to the in transit status. Im going to guess Wednesday :smiley:

If we could rely on the tracker to be up-to-date and consistent with everybody, that'd be a fair game to play! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Dully on 05 August 2013, 21:05
Call from the dealer today that my BW34 is locked in and he said to be realistic a mid Sept handover is what he is aiming at, I've given up with driving myself mad with the tracker and am going off on holiday next week while they get on and build the dam thing, 3 weeks in the sun then am going to start to really get excited once I'm back  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 05 August 2013, 21:44
Good news Gryzor!!

Yeah definitely, and at least it confirms that production did indeed start again at BW32 as opposed to BW33 as might have been the case.

Yeah great news Gryzor!!!! I also got confirmation that mine has gone into production as of today :smiley: Looks like they're building the 5 door Pure White models this week!.... Not long now...

Wat? THEY FORGOT MINE DAMMIT! :angry:

Couldn't be arsed building mine either mate! :angry: I rang VWCS again today to ask for an update as my dealer is off again, gone back one to unconfirmed 37 "but should go confirmed in the next week and a half" yeah right! They said that a month ago! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 06 August 2013, 10:07
Couldn't be arsed building mine either mate! :angry: I rang VWCS again today to ask for an update as my dealer is off again, gone back one to unconfirmed 37 "but should go confirmed in the next week and a half" yeah right! They said that a month ago! :rolleyes:

Aww no not another push back!  This is getting a bit beyond a joke now isn't it?  Its been well over four months for you now right?  Same for Brenbo too.  Will be four months for me end of this week...  and still no BW.  For the last month the estimates I've been given have each said "it will almost definitely be confirmed next week, we're really sure this time" and what happens?  Sure enough next week comes and its now sure to be confirmed next week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 06 August 2013, 10:18
I had the same conversation with vw today. Mine is currently unconfirmed bw37 and was told should go to confirmed bw37. I have lost count of how many times I've been told it should go to confirmed and hasn't!

When I asked why bw keeps going back he said supply issues with rear view camera. I asked if they could tell me when the supply issues would be sorted and he said no information was available! How ridiculous! So that means no information on when my car is going to be built!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 06 August 2013, 10:20
Couldn't be arsed building mine either mate! :angry: I rang VWCS again today to ask for an update as my dealer is off again, gone back one to unconfirmed 37 "but should go confirmed in the next week and a half" yeah right! They said that a month ago! :rolleyes:

Aww no not another push back!  This is getting a bit beyond a joke now isn't it?  Its been well over four months for you now right?  Same for Brenbo too.  Will be four months for me end of this week...  and still no BW.  For the last month the estimates I've been given have each said "it will almost definitely be confirmed next week, we're really sure this time" and what happens?  Sure enough next week comes and its now sure to be confirmed next week.

Yup, 19 weeks or around 4 months and still no build week! It's a bit poor really... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 August 2013, 10:34
Yup, I think 4 months from order to build is crazy, let alone not even having a confirmed build week yet.  Maybe the camera does have something to do with it, and maybe they schedule to do runs of cars with PP together, really not sure.  All I do know is, it's not good enough.  I mean fine, if the build schedule is what it is, not a lot we can do, but, they can do much better in terms of keeping us informed and managing our mis-led expectations.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 06 August 2013, 10:38
When I asked why bw keeps going back he said supply issues with rear view camera. I asked if they could tell me when the supply issues would be sorted and he said no information was available!

John when did you order?  And who told you the camera was the problem?

VW said rear view cam issues would only impact orders placed before July.  I specifically asked them about this last week because I was suspicious that they lied and the rear view cam was affecting earlier orders.  I was assured it is not affecting my order.

I'm becoming a bit suspicious of this "we're really clueless and don't know what is happening" routine they keep putting on.  I mean, lets say after assuring customers who ordered the rear cam four months ago that supply issues would not affect them they then failed to hold back enough cameras and now those customers are suffering months of new delays.  Those customers would have a pretty good argument that because VW made a mistake some kind of compensation should be offered.  Of course no argument could be made without some information on what caused the delays.  If this hypothetical situation were true then VW's inability to give the customers any information would be pretty convenient for them now wouldn't it?

Am I going crazy because I'm pissed my order keeps being delayed or do I have a point here? :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 06 August 2013, 10:55
I ordered on 29 April Bill and it was a guy from 'customer care'. What a joke that term seems at the moment
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 06 August 2013, 10:58
Tried to take up that offer made by the dealer to arrange Woflsburg collection... and guess what... no can do!... Not too annoyed as part of me didn't fancy my first drive in a new car being quite so long just in case. But starting to wonder if my dealer is a bit clueless :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 06 August 2013, 11:01
I ordered on 29 April Bill and it was a guy from 'customer care'. What a joke that term seems at the moment

Unless I am going crazy, I think this is a big deal!  Is it possible VW screwed up on the cameras and don't want to admit it?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 August 2013, 11:05
If VW have screwed up on the camera, I've got lucky then because I ordered Early April and had a couple of order changes after that which could have pushed things back for all I know.

In all my discussions with regular customer care and my dealer regarding things like the heated screen, build dates etc., they genuinely are absolutely clueless.  They just don't have the right information to hand, that's the problem.  I always used to insist that they go and speak to somebody in the sales or marketing team there because those are the people who know, and then I started to get some proper answers.  When I got a named contact and e-mail address, that's when I was kept regularly updated, even if to say no news yet.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 06 August 2013, 11:10
The customer care guy spoke to someone at sales while I was on the phone to him. My salesman is on holiday at the moment so I can't talk to him at the moment, which is probably just as well as I am VERY p*ssed off with it

The only info he has given me is that 'as your vehicle was ordered before the removal action was taken, your vehicle will still get the rear view camera'.

He and VW didn't say what week/month/year/if ever this might happen!!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 06 August 2013, 11:12
I ordered on 29 April Bill and it was a guy from 'customer care'. What a joke that term seems at the moment

Unless I am going crazy, I think this is a big deal!  Is it possible VW screwed up on the cameras and don't want to admit it?

I'm so glad I didn't add the camera - I was so close to doing it as well - what a horlicks they've made of this.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 August 2013, 11:21
If it really is the camera, I'm flabbergasted to be honest.  OK, so if they underestimated demand due to people no longer needing to pay for a larger NAV screen to get the camera, how many camera units would that really constitute?  It's still not available to select on the configurator, been about a month, right?  It's just a camera with a motor to open the badge and some wiring...really shouldn't be that hard to get a few hundred made up.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 06 August 2013, 11:27
If it really is the camera, I'm flabbergasted to be honest.  OK, so if they underestimated demand due to people no longer needing to pay for a larger NAV screen to get the camera, how many camera units would that really constitute?  It's still not available to select on the configurator, been about a month, right?  It's just a camera with a motor to open the badge and some wiring...really shouldn't be that hard to get a few hundred made up.

I don't believe its the camera on its own, after all we've all been waiting 4 months and some of you still haven't been given BWs, but its certainly contributing to the delay as it seems only April early orderers who put the camera on are still left with unconfirmed BWs.  If I were you boys I'd tell them to knock it off - honestly, its not worth this hassle IMO!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 06 August 2013, 11:29
If it really is the camera, I'm flabbergasted to be honest.  OK, so if they underestimated demand due to people no longer needing to pay for a larger NAV screen to get the camera, how many camera units would that really constitute?  It's still not available to select on the configurator, been about a month, right?  It's just a camera with a motor to open the badge and some wiring...really shouldn't be that hard to get a few hundred made up.

They said only new orders from July are affected.  Some guessing now:

1) They realise demand is higher than max supply.
2) They calculate when they will run out: July.
3) They assure customers who ordered before July that no delays will result.
4) GTI orders from April-June should be covered, but for some reason no cameras are set aside.
5) Additional delays for GTI with camera.

And if the above is close to the truth I think they'd be reluctant to admit it because they had three months of time to set aside cameras for those orders and if they somehow failed to do so that is a super fcuk up.  If they admitted this I would be immediately asking what compensation they are offering for causing an unnecessary delay on top of the already unacceptable delays, and I'm suspicious they are playing dumb to avoid getting 50, 100, 200 or more people calling to ask the same thing.  After all its clearly not the only delay, the GTI is delayed anyway... so all they have to do is prevaricate about "could be many reasons" and they can avoid admitting a mistake.

If I were you boys I'd tell them to knock it off - honestly, its not worth this hassle IMO!

But they won't admit it is a cause of delays so how can we?  Last week I asked repeatedly if the camera was causing a delay and was assured it was not.  If they said it was I would ask:

1) Will taking it off enable a faster build?
2) Can you retro fit later?

But as long as they peddle this line about "unknown reasons" we can't do anything!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 06 August 2013, 11:37
I'm sure its been said before but why cant they build the cars with the camera preparation and get the dealers to fit it when it is available.

Did anyone see DAS Auto on BBC2 - they were making a big thing about how efficient german car builders are!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 06 August 2013, 11:40
I'm sure its been said before but why cant they build the cars with the camera preparation and get the dealers to fit it when it is available.

Agree.  But possibly the supplier provides the entire kit as one item.  They won't be shipping VW partial kits even if they could do so.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 August 2013, 11:55
Yeah, even with all the hassle I wouldn't be knocking it off the order.  An official retro-fit isn't certain, an after-market fit may not provide full on-screen functionality, and it doesn't guarantee a faster build.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 06 August 2013, 12:26
Urgh this is infuriating.  Slow day at work is not helping either.

Send some pointless emails to colleages - seems to be the done thing
Stare out of window while waiting for responses
Check VW tracker :sad:
Check email - no responses
Finish report for boss
Check VW tracker :sad:
Email boss for feedback
Check VW tracker :sad:
Check VW tracker :sad:
Stare out of window again
Spot glaring error in report - blame on mate who is on holiday :evil:
Check VW tracker :sad:
Check if boss has reponded - of course not
Check VW tracker :sad:
Bang head on desk
...
Check VW tracker

Arrrgh!

F**k it I'm going for lunch.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 August 2013, 12:31
The more time you spend on these forums, and the more you just sit there hitting refresh, the harder and longer the wait will feel!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 06 August 2013, 12:57
Urgh this is infuriating.  Slow day at work is not helping either.

Send some pointless emails to colleages - seems to be the done thing
Stare out of window while waiting for responses
Check VW tracker :sad:
Check email - no responses
Finish report for boss
Check VW tracker :sad:
Email boss for feedback
Check VW tracker :sad:
Check VW tracker :sad:
Stare out of window again
Spot glaring error in report - blame on mate who is on holiday :evil:
Check VW tracker :sad:
Check if boss has reponded - of course not
Check VW tracker :sad:
Bang head on desk
...
Check VW tracker

Arrrgh!

F**k it I'm going for lunch.

Mate you need a BIG distraction :grin:

May a suggest having a baby. I had one last week. Kinda taking my mind off waiting for the new motor :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 06 August 2013, 13:07
But which will arrive first, the baby or the car?????
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 August 2013, 13:08
Maybe having a baby is one step too far at this moment...perhaps just getting the practice in would be a good start ;)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AlanH on 06 August 2013, 13:11
"May I suggest having a baby. I had one last week. Kinda taking my mind off waiting for the new motor :tongue:"

But that's 9 months from order to delivery - even worse than VW.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 06 August 2013, 13:13
"May I suggest having a baby. I had one last week. Kinda taking my mind off waiting for the new motor :tongue:"

But that's 9 months from order to delivery - even worse than VW.

Should have planned ahead then shouldn't he  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 06 August 2013, 13:50
"May I suggest having a baby. I had one last week. Kinda taking my mind off waiting for the new motor :tongue:"

But that's 9 months from order to delivery - even worse than VW.

Should have planned ahead then shouldn't he  :grin: :grin: :grin:

At least you know for certain its 9 months and that its not going to be held up by a rear view camera  :grin: :grin:

In all seriousness when i went to collect my car the dealer told me that the delays where down to the issues with the camera so someone is telling porkies. Has anyone who has received their car to date ordered the camera?

I have seen cars with sat nav pro, 19" alloys, pano roof, Oryx paint, keyless entry, winter pack all collected. If no one has picked up a car with the camera then that it a fairly big hint that its causing problems.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 06 August 2013, 13:56
I'm sure its been said before but why cant they build the cars with the camera preparation and get the dealers to fit it when it is available.

Agree.  But possibly the supplier provides the entire kit as one item.  They won't be shipping VW partial kits even if they could do so.

Or possibly it is the preparation or a specialised loom that is in short supply and not the camera itself. Either way, VW should be able to provide an answer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 06 August 2013, 14:16
Hehehehehe, you are right, I should have planned ahead, but I'm not good at that.  Congratulations 5-0!

A friend of mine comes into work looking like a zombie and immediately falls asleep at his desk.  His boss creeps up on him and then yells "Mark MARK! Wake up!" causing him to leap out of his seat in fright.  Andy, his boss, then walks off giggling (Andy's children are much older).  This happens two or three times a week without fail.  Last time I asked about his children he gave me a haggered look and simply said "I haven't slept for two years."

Not that I'm ruling children out mind, but I am aware there are some risks.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 06 August 2013, 14:36
Hehehehehe, you are right, I should have planned ahead, but I'm not good at that.  Congratulations 5-0!

A friend of mine comes into work looking like a zombie and immediately falls asleep at his desk.  His boss creeps up on him and then yells "Mark MARK! Wake up!" causing him to leap out of his seat in fright.  Andy, his boss, then walks off giggling (Andy's children are much older).  This happens two or three times a week without fail.  Last time I asked about his children he gave me a haggered look and simply said "I haven't slept for two years."

Not that I'm ruling children out mind, but I am aware there are some risks.

I never had this issue, little one always slept like a baby (no pun intended)!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 06 August 2013, 15:11
I have the Camera ordered for my GTD - would not be happy at all if I had to remove it to get the car as it was the first option I specced.  I ordered at the start of May and have a unconfirmed BW of 39 - so should know in the next few weeks if there are going to be problems.  I hope not...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 06 August 2013, 17:01
"May I suggest having a baby. I had one last week. Kinda taking my mind off waiting for the new motor :P "

But that's 9 months from order to delivery - even worse than VW.

Should have planned ahead then shouldn't he  ;D ;D ;D

At least you know for certain its 9 months and that its not going to be held up by a rear view camera  ;D ;D

In all seriousness when i went to collect my car the dealer told me that the delays where down to the issues with the camera so someone is telling porkies. Has anyone who has received their car to date ordered the camera?

I have seen cars with sat nav pro, 19" alloys, pano roof, Oryx paint, keyless entry, winter pack all collected. If no one has picked up a car with the camera then that it a fairly big hint that its causing problems.


He's in the netherlands but that shouldn't matter:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=254838.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=254838.0)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 06 August 2013, 17:12
He's in the netherlands but that shouldn't matter:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=254838.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=254838.0)

If the NL order book opened before UK then it might matter.  i.e. his car was built long before they started to see increased demand for cameras, but by the time UK orders were down and they got around to RHD cars they had run out?

Maybe I'm cynical but I'm strongly suspecting that they screwed up and didn't hold back cameras for the delayed UK GTIs and now they have run out of them... only they don't want to admit this so they're just blaming problems on a general unavailability.  It seems certain that there are (or have been) other big delays but I think a lot of the current delays could be the camera...

Why are some UK cars delivered while others ordered in April still have no BW?  Logically this means they lack some parts since they clearly can make cars if they want to.  What could they be lacking?  Hmm I wonder...

I really hope we can get some proof that cameras are holding up April orders because if so I will be writing to ask for compensation and an apology.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 06 August 2013, 18:05
I wonder if other trim level cars are being delivered with cameras? :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: DougL on 06 August 2013, 18:14
I wonder if other trim level cars are being delivered with cameras? :huh:

I was just thinking that myself.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 06 August 2013, 18:33
I wonder if other trim level cars are being delivered with cameras? :huh:

I was just thinking that myself.

The thing is, other Golfs have much shorter lead times.  So what probably has happened is that Since July no Golf can be ordered with the camera, while those Golfs ordered prior to July have had them fit as standard with the remaining stock.

Meanwhile our GTIs have had other delays and hold ups and no one at VW has thought to put aside any cameras even though the orders have been on their books for 4 months.  Now they've finally got their act together and are ready to build them they can't because there are no cameras and they promised we'd get them as we ordered before July... waaaaaaaaaay before July.  So they just fob us off with unspecified delays.  They can't specify exactly what the problem is because to do so would be to admit they screwed up.  Since there have been big delays anyway they can just prevaricate as usual and we're none the wiser.

The only other explanation is that this is just more of the idiotic allocation nonsense, but how the hell can that explain why orders from April still have no confirmed BW?  How many people could possibly have ordered before us such that after four months they still don't know when our orders will be built?

EDIT:
The weekly update from Lisa is due tomorrow.  If I don't hear that I've got a confirmed BW I'm calling and am not going to be nice this time.  I want to know exactly what the hell is going on.  No more crap about "it will be confirmed next week", they've been peddling that for a month now and its getting old.  If they can't give me a confirmed BW tomorrow I want the exact reason why not!  I probably come across as quite angry on the forum, that's just the internet though... but I am now beginning to lose my temper as I type this!

EDIT2:
The question they need to answer is why can't I (or any of you) have a BW right now?  What is it we're waiting for?  If it is a part is missing then they fcuked up because they've had 4 months to get things ready.  If it is because there is a queue ahead then exactly how many orders did they take before they took mine and how many cars are they making per week?  I don't believe them.  And if this is the only problem then its easy to fix, they can just bring our orders forward to reflect that we've been waiting longer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 August 2013, 18:36
seems strange that carsystems.pl have mk7 camera kits for sale. if they can get them then why can't VW!! You can't fit some parts of the camera system and then get the dealer to try and fit then when they turn up. I don't even want to go down the retro fit route as it means taking boot panels side trim panels floor panels, dashboard bits apart and that's without cutting into a live feed to get the camera to work. I'm bw36 on my gtd and I've specced the rear camera so I'm expecting to go confirmed at some point this week. my dealer sent me the screen shot this morning with 36 on and my camera on the options list. I may well be the first to get a confirmed build week and have a camera but I'm not holding my breath  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: DougL on 06 August 2013, 18:38
Kufatec also have them for sale for ¢470. It is an option on all models of Golf but just checked and it's definitely not on the configurator.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 06 August 2013, 19:14
Like Bill I have been waiting a long time and my patience is starting to wear thin as well.  It's no good keeping us waiting so long and keep putting us back without any set in stone explanation as to why we are waiting the extra time.  I will let you guys know the instant I get a BW confirmed.  I am currently on BW36.  Put back from BW34 last week.  For those of you in a similar position I have listed My cars spec below so you can see what we may have that's similar and may be the one thing that could be holding it all up. 

Oryx White
Rear View Camera
Pro Sat Nav
Dynaudio
Performance Pack
Winter Pack


Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: DougL on 06 August 2013, 19:24
I have no optional extras whatsoever ordered as I thought the car was well enough specced as is. I'm currently on 37 unconfirmed, which is where I was when I placed the order on 22 May, although I did move forward to 36 for a while. I doubt I can move back forward, but 37 should get confirmed on Friday perhaps?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 06 August 2013, 19:25
Like Bill I have been waiting a long time and my patience is starting to wear thin as well.  It's no good keeping us waiting so long and keep putting us back without any set in stone explanation as to why we are waiting the extra time.  I will let you guys know the instant I get a BW confirmed.  I am currently on BW36.  Put back from BW34 last week.  For those of you in a similar position I have listed My cars spec below so you can see what we may have that's similar and may be the one thing that could be holding it all up. 

Oryx White
Rear View Camera
Pro Sat Nav
Dynaudio
Performance Pack
Winter Pack

Loving your colour choice - welcome to the gang. We're special :D
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 06 August 2013, 19:29
My wife even said I was special, especially when my eye's go closer together when I smile  :laugh:

Good to see another Oryx White GTI owner, well future owner.  I thought I may have been the only one mad enough to shell out that much on White paint.  I'm a Graphic Deisgner by trade, so everything has to be just right, or else I cannot cope...  I think it's called being obsessive.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jsybrian on 06 August 2013, 20:00
Who has the longest order time not yet confirmed? I am on bw37 unconfirmed and I ordered at the end of March grrrrrr!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 August 2013, 20:29
I ordered 2nd April and am unconfirmed 36. I'm expecting to go confirmed this week. If I get my car on 1st October as is being discussed with my salesman the its 6 months or 26 weeks wait. Not good from VW at all.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: DougL on 06 August 2013, 20:31
In March 2012, there was a 5 month wait for 1.6 DSGs... it's a bit crap really. Someone said to me that it was due to the Chinese market, but I don't buy it as VW have several factories in China building cars for that market.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 06 August 2013, 21:10
Bill: Maybe you should leave your VW UK rep with a question to chase up - if you cancelled the camera, would the order get confirmed (confirming camera is definitely the issue), or would they bump your order even further back because it will have changed and will need replanning into the schedule (assuming you are already in a rough build plan which is subject to change).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TDI-line on 06 August 2013, 21:38
Bill: Maybe you should leave your VW UK rep with a question to chase up - if you cancelled the camera, would the order get confirmed (confirming camera is definitely the issue), or would they bump your order even further back because it will have changed and will need replanning into the schedule (assuming you are already in a rough build plan which is subject to change).

I spoke to my local dealer about the camera issue, he did chuckle as he is explained VW's side of the story.

Well apparently there is no shortage of cameras, but a stop has been put on the ordering of camera's as they have been priced far to low (and appealing), and VW have been loosing money on them with mostly the low spec golf's (S, SE, BM) have been speccing them, instead of adding Parking sensors (£450), which is of course standard on the GT, GTD, GTI. (The Audi A3 cost of the camera is £275).

Seems to have been removed from the VW configurator.

Food for thought.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: harryhackenbacker on 06 August 2013, 21:51
I have a full spec GTI ordered my 4th privately owned performance Golf  ( GTI mk5 / R32 / GTI mk6 / Current R )
beside that I have had about 100 Golf company cars (Ex Trade ) and the Stories on spec V delivery time are very
amusing , and lots of things affect this ,you can only be sure of one thing ,the more spec you put on it ,the longer
it takes ,unless there is a disaster /strike Vw rarely run out of bits if someone ordered your spec in Quantity ( 2000 off )
in right hand drive ,you would probably get it quicker ,than a stock one  :laugh: :laugh:

PS I am not saying the stories or some are true or false  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 06 August 2013, 22:22
Bill: Maybe you should leave your VW UK rep with a question to chase up - if you cancelled the camera, would the order get confirmed (confirming camera is definitely the issue), or would they bump your order even further back because it will have changed and will need replanning into the schedule (assuming you are already in a rough build plan which is subject to change).

I spoke to my local dealer about the camera issue, he did chuckle as he is explained VW's side of the story.

Well apparently there is no shortage of cameras, but a stop has been put on the ordering of camera's as they have been priced far to low (and appealing), and VW have been loosing money on them with mostly the low spec golf's (S, SE, BM) have been speccing them, instead of adding Parking sensors (£450), which is of course standard on the GT, GTD, GTI. (The Audi A3 cost of the camera is £275).

Seems to have been removed from the VW configurator.

Food for thought.

Sounds like another line to me, the camera is a similar cost now as it was on the mk6 thats why i have it on mine, so if they thought they were losing too much on them you'd think they would of figured that out long before now?

They took it off the order books on the 6 for a little while for some unknown reason too. :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 August 2013, 00:52
Who has the longest order time not yet confirmed? I am on bw37 unconfirmed and I ordered at the end of March grrrrrr!

Based on back when we were surveying all this I think it is poor old Jimble.  Brenbo might be second.  I didn't order right at the start of April, left it a couple of weeks but this week makes it 4 months for me I think.

If there is no update tomorrow I'm calling them and will be more insistent on an explanation.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TDI-line on 07 August 2013, 06:38
Who has the longest order time not yet confirmed? I am on bw37 unconfirmed and I ordered at the end of March grrrrrr!

Based on back when we were surveying all this I think it is poor old Jimble.  Brenbo might be second.  I didn't order right at the start of April, left it a couple of weeks but this week makes it 4 months for me I think.

If there is no update tomorrow I'm calling them and will be more insistent on an explanation.

Hi Bill,

which dealer did youi use btw? (Being in Cambridgeshire also).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tommygund on 07 August 2013, 09:04
Who has the longest order time not yet confirmed? I am on bw37 unconfirmed and I ordered at the end of March grrrrrr!

Based on back when we were surveying all this I think it is poor old Jimble.  Brenbo might be second.  I didn't order right at the start of April, left it a couple of weeks but this week makes it 4 months for me I think.

If there is no update tomorrow I'm calling them and will be more insistent on an explanation.


Bill, I ordered April 16th I will have been waiting 4 months by the end of next week. I cannot blame the wait on the camera (not added) and like you I am still waiting for a confirmed build week. Either I have been very unlucky, or the spec has naff all to do with it!  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 August 2013, 10:05
Hi Bill,

which dealer did youi use btw? (Being in Cambridgeshire also).

I actually used a broker to find my dealer (but the entire process was done at the dealer, so as far as VW know its like any other order).  I ended up at Listers near Birmingham.  Did you use Vindis then?

Bill, I ordered April 16th I will have been waiting 4 months by the end of next week. I cannot blame the wait on the camera (not added) and like you I am still waiting for a confirmed build week. Either I have been very unlucky, or the spec has naff all to do with it!  :angry:

Hmm, good to know about your spec.  Sorry you've also had such a wait, seems there are quite a few of us still waiting from April then! :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ginnes on 07 August 2013, 10:09
13th April ordered. No confirmed BW. Last estimated at BW36. Camera, climate screen and a few other options...  Hope to hear this week :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 07 August 2013, 13:34
Climate screen isnt available apparently until week 42.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 August 2013, 16:07
Dammit, VW haven't texted me the weekly update yet and now my boss wants a meeting and VWCS shut at 16:30!

Oh poo.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 07 August 2013, 16:40
Amazing the wait people are going through getting these cars yet lease companies seem to be pushing them like mad.

nationwidevehiclecontracts have an offer on them, I hope the lease companies are not getting priority over VW direct customers!
 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 August 2013, 16:59
UPDATE:

I got tired of waiting for them so called anyway.

1) I'm pushed back again! (from 36 to 37)
2) Its the CAMERA!!!

They are currently "doing everything they can" to resolve the supply problem including "seeking alternate suppliers".  It is a "priority" for them.  Can they give an idea of when it will be solved?  "No." and "asap..." which could mean anything.

I complained.  Firstly on the grounds that I ordered in APRIL and there were no camera issues so what the hell has happened?  Have they used all the cameras and not held any back for orders placed prior to the supply problem?  Secondly my current car needs MOT, Tax, and I had aimed to sell to a family member in August, they have now been forced to buy elsewhere as they needed a new car... I'm losing £250 a month in p/x.

I asked if it was possible to fit the camera later?  No, they don't want to tear up upholstery to fit wires.  So I ask if it possible to fit all the wires at the factory and pop the camera in at the dealer?  He says he has to ask and will call back in 30 MINUTES.



Ironically we could have predicted they had high demand for the rear cam LONG before there were any indications from VW that there was an issue:  http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=253044.msg2320801#msg2320801

I would have guessed things like Performance Pack and 19" Alloys would be the most popular, yet Rear Cam and Winter Pack are surprisingly near the top of the list instead.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 August 2013, 17:04
(see preceding post for context)

He called me back already.  I guess whoever he needs to talk to has gone home as he now says they'll call me tomorrow to discuss.  More waiting.  Joy. :whistle:

Guys, given that they are gonna call tomorrow to talk (presumably) about the camera problems... any suggestions for what I should say?  One thing is Norbreak and maybe others are apparently being built with cameras... so did they pull numbers from a hat on who gets them and who has to wait?  Also tommygund says he didn't spec the camera but has also been waiting 4 months and no sign of a BW, what is up with that?  Tommy, if you want to call them to discuss how our two orders make sense then PM me, I can give you more details of mine (i.e. my real name so they can find it on their system) so they can compare directly as something doesn't add up!  Either there is another kind of delay, or they are wrong about the camera being the sole problem...

In a way I am happier because this seems more constructive than the usual "wait one more week, honestly this time we mean it" but on the other hand it seems this is less of a delay and more of a on hold until further notice.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 07 August 2013, 17:29
I, just the same as you Bill would like to know what exactly is delaying the BW for everyone.

I have just been on to the Tracker and it is unavailable, stating it is being improved on the content you see at each stage.  I doubt it will be of any real improvement,  but if it could show more specific detail it would be a bonus. 

I am assuming I am still BW 36.  But who knows? I am not kept up to date as soon as the BW changes I have to prompt or wait for the dealer to get around to telling me. 

I would like to know if any parts are delaying the BW, and if so what lead time there is at present for the parts to be in stock at VW.  By knowing this we would have a better idea of when our BW could be dependent on the parts we have specced. 

When I quote for Printing Plates at work I have to give delivery dates for the Plates to our factory for Customers to estimate when their printed packaging will be produced.  So the same principle could apply to VW by letting us know what is delaying our Cars and by how long before the part is in stock.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: p3asa on 07 August 2013, 17:34
Ask them why other companies are selling them and you are willing to post a camera over from this company!!

http://www.kufatec.co.uk/shop/en/Volkswagen/Golf-7-5Q/Complete-set-Rearview-VW-Golf-7-VII

I don't believe for a minute the hold up for months now has been a camera. Fair enough a few days or a week or so but these things can be mass produced in thousands quite easily. I'm sure if VW said to its supplying camera dealer "get your finger out and supply us with 10,000 or we are going elsewhere" they would soon get them delivered.

(http://www.kufatec.co.uk/shop/media/images/popup/39634.jpg)

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 August 2013, 17:42
I am assuming I am still BW 36.  But who knows?

Think its safe to assume 37 now mate. :sad: And by 37 I mean... until whenever they get cameras in.

I would like to know if any parts are delaying the BW.

I'll ask for all other potential hold ups on any part other than camera.

Ask them why other companies are selling them and you are willing to post a camera over from this company!!

http://www.kufatec.co.uk/shop/en/Volkswagen/Golf-7-5Q/Complete-set-Rearview-VW-Golf-7-VII

I'll ask but even if the part is identical I doubt they'd go for it.  Warranty nightmare.  Good find though, I actually like this idea.  I'm gonna ask if I can email them where they can get a camera, or if I can get it and post it like you said and they reimburse the cost! :evil:

I don't believe for a minute the hold up for months now has been a camera.

I am assuming the GTI has a general slow delay, but that virtually everyone here who ordered in April should have got their cars about the same time as CraigW, or at the least expect to be built this week or next.  I think we've finally reached the front of the queue only to find the last few cameras have gone and now we're all indefinitely on hold.  Why didn't they anticipate this earlier and hold some cameras back?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 07 August 2013, 18:44
That sucks bear, I've also got the camera, and ordered in April, yet according to my dealer and VW, it went into build on Monday, so could even be complete now. Did I really get lucky and get assigned one of the last few cameras?  I must have, but it's crazy.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 07 August 2013, 18:59
Do you think the reason Gryzor's GTI is being built and Mine and Bills along with some others are not confirmed,  is due to the fact Gryzor has not specified a Performance Pack for his.  I have noticed both mine and Bill's have Performance Packs.  Is it just a case of the easier lower spec standard cars are built and shipped first to off load a bulk of cars on their lists then once enough Performance Pack and other specs are collated on their lists they allocate a week for them all to be built the same time. 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 07 August 2013, 19:07
The PP did cross my mind Brenbo, because Jimble has specced PP as well and in the same unconfirmed boat as yourself and bear.  It makes sense that they would batch cars up with similar specs, especially significant mechanical ones.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 07 August 2013, 19:12
Well mine is also uncomfirmed BW36, pp and rear cam. Ordered first week of April,
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 07 August 2013, 19:23
It is all so up in the air at the moment and all we can do is clutch at straws with no reall had facts being divulged. 

But the Performance Pack batching of Build Weeks does look like a viable one.  It also does explain why people such as Gryzor with Standard Spec have waited less time than those in the same boat as myself with Performance Pack.  I know it will not get anywhere, but I have also emailed my Dealer asking what exactly is going on with all the delays.  I know I should go higher, but I just want to see what new excuses come out this time for the delay. 

Also I am extremely envious of you Gryzor.  I bet you are getting a bit more excited now you know the wheels are in motion with your car being built.  Best wishes and hope you get it soon.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 07 August 2013, 19:23
Mine is PP + Cam and still no confirmed week ordered 30th April.  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 07 August 2013, 19:26
Not sure its anything to do with the PP. I have the PP on mine and ordered 6th May
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 August 2013, 19:27
Ok one more question for them then.  When they call I'll ask why some of us are getting built while others are in a state of camera limbo doom until further notice.  Is it due to another option, say performance pack.

Btw anyone on here order early-ish with camera but not PP and still not have confirmed BW?  Tommygund, did you get PP?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 07 August 2013, 19:28
There is no way in the world they'll wire up the camera for you in the factory without actually fitting the camera! It just won't happen. I wouldn't let a dealer attempt a retro fit either. A couple of friends of mine have retrofitted them to MKV/MKVI's and its doable if you are reasonably DIY minded.
Not sure what extra difficulty the new head units bring to retrofits though. It was probably easier with the RNS units in the MKV/vi.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 07 August 2013, 19:30
Also I am extremely envious of you Gryzor.  I bet you are getting a bit more excited now you know the wheels are in motion with your car being built.  Best wishes and hope you get it soon.

Cheers mate!  Yeah it all starts to seem real now, definitely excited!

CraigW, it may be a combination of options, and you didn't spec the camera.  So hard to say now without hard facts!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TDI-line on 07 August 2013, 19:33
Hi Bill,

which dealer did youi use btw? (Being in Cambridgeshire also).

I actually used a broker to find my dealer (but the entire process was done at the dealer, so as far as VW know its like any other order).  I ended up at Listers near Birmingham.  Did you use Vindis then?


I haven't ordered yet, just doing some research and seeing what discount i can push. One last test drive of an A3 S-line S-tronic (DSG) on Saturday, just to see what the drive is like, but probably 90% towards a Limestone GTD. ;)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 07 August 2013, 19:33
Also I am extremely envious of you Gryzor.  I bet you are getting a bit more excited now you know the wheels are in motion with your car being built.  Best wishes and hope you get it soon.

Cheers mate!  Yeah it all starts to seem real now, definitely excited!

CraigW, it may be a combination of options, and you didn't spec the camera.  So hard to say now without hard facts!

You could be right. Who knows what's going on. You will love the car when you get it!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 07 August 2013, 19:34
Do you think the reason Gryzor's GTI is being built and Mine and Bills along with some others are not confirmed,  is due to the fact Gryzor has not specified a Performance Pack for his.  I have noticed both mine and Bill's have Performance Packs.  Is it just a case of the easier lower spec standard cars are built and shipped first to off load a bulk of cars on their lists then once enough Performance Pack and other specs are collated on their lists they allocate a week for them all to be built the same time. 

Good try Brenbo, but it doesn't quite stack up, as mine went into production with Gryzor's on Monday and I ordered the PP. I placed my order on the 29th March and the only similarity with Gryzor's order is that we've both ordered Pure White 5 doors!

This is highly unlikely but my dealer told me the hold up was with the 'ACC' which I did spec. My order was bumped from BW28 to 32.  I think he was clutching at straws. I really do feel for everyone else though. If delivery does happen in September, it will be 5 months from ordering which is the longest I've waited for any car!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 August 2013, 19:43
September is out for sure unless they do something extraordinary to rush them through ports.  Even if mine was still on BW36 it would be optimistic to expect to see it before October.  As far as I can tell anyone with the. Camera but no confirmed BW is currently on indefinite hold until they get new cameras... whenever that is.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 07 August 2013, 19:58
You could be right. Who knows what's going on. You will love the car when you get it!!!

Oh I know, I can't wait!  Now begins the "detachment" phase on my current Mk5  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 07 August 2013, 20:04
You could be right. Who knows what's going on. You will love the car when you get it!!!

Oh I know, I can't wait!  Now begins the "detachment" phase on my current Mk5  :grin:
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The hardest stage without doubt. It was emotional saying goodbye to the old car  :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 07 August 2013, 20:08
The hardest stage without doubt. It was emotional saying goodbye to the old car  :cry: :cry:

That's providing you've got a nice car currently, some of us can't wait to see the back of our current motor  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 07 August 2013, 20:10
Yeah we've been together over 8 years now...longest I've ever owned a car, and also the first time I haven't changed just because I'm bored of it or stuff just keeps going wrong.  Will miss the old girl, but never forgotten  :smiley:

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tommygund on 07 August 2013, 20:34
Hi Guys. Bill, mine is about as run of the mill as it is possible to get. 3 door, pure white no camera or performance pack. The only thing that I added was the basic nav. I am more than happy to give them a bell and see what they say re the difference between those with a camera added and those that have (forgive me) the basic GTI.

I had a wait with my previous car, stupidly long, until I managed to get the email address for the director of Audi UK. It involved a lot of Googling but I am getting to the point of spending a day sat trying to find it for this Simon Thomas.

Does anyone have the number to call for VW UK, just had a look through the thread but its getting a bit massive to hunt it down. Cheers.     
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 07 August 2013, 21:27
Gutted for you Bear. Basically you need to do two things:

1. You want compensation for the money you're losing on your current car.
2. Take the camera off your order.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 07 August 2013, 21:34
Hi Guys. Bill, mine is about as run of the mill as it is possible to get. 3 door, pure white no camera or performance pack. The only thing that I added was the basic nav. I am more than happy to give them a bell and see what they say re the difference between those with a camera added and those that have (forgive me) the basic GTI.

I had a wait with my previous car, stupidly long, until I managed to get the email address for the director of Audi UK. It involved a lot of Googling but I am getting to the point of spending a day sat trying to find it for this Simon Thomas.

Does anyone have the number to call for VW UK, just had a look through the thread but its getting a bit massive to hunt it down. Cheers.     


I believe its 0800 0833920....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 07 August 2013, 21:52
Does anyone have the number to call for VW UK, just had a look through the thread but its getting a bit massive to hunt it down. Cheers.   

The 0800 number is generally useless. You are far better off using the VW Exec Customer Services number:

0844 375 4625

They we really helpful with me, and gave me a named individual to liaise with.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: DougL on 07 August 2013, 21:59
When I used the "executive" number yesterday, I got asked, rather rudely, "How did you get this number?" YMMV
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 August 2013, 22:07
When I used the "executive" number yesterday, I got asked, rather rudely, "How did you get this number?" YMMV

Apologies, should have warned you.

However, as I'm sure they are well aware (as its what they're paid for) people wouldn't be calling that number for little issues.  If they're taking more calls than they want that is some great feedback for them right there.  Lets hope they know what to do about it! :tongue:

An above average company would make an effort to give its customers a genuine honest assessment of when they can expect what.  It would also make some offer to compensate for the inconvenience.  I intend to politely discuss things and hope that one or both of the above might be forthcoming.

Will let you all know.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tommygund on 07 August 2013, 22:10
Thanks all. Will also give it a go and see what response I get. Now I cant even stress myself with the tracker as thats being played with. What am I going to refresh 40 times a day now? :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 07 August 2013, 22:23
I originally got it by pestering VWUK who must have escalated internally.  However, if I were going to call that number and get asked how I obtained it, I'd simply reply "Through sheer desperation"...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: p3asa on 07 August 2013, 23:06
Without ploughing through the thread again, has anyone tried Twitter or Facebook? They hate that bad publicity.
I tweeted my woes about Audi and how I was being given the run around by a dealer. Within 20 minutes I was speaking to customer services and by the end of the day my problem had been dealt with.

I'm not saying its going to get you a result but if enough folk post on the Facebook page or tweet them, it might give them the shake up they need.

There is nothing to lose.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 August 2013, 23:27
Without ploughing through the thread again, has anyone tried Twitter or Facebook? They hate that bad publicity.
I tweeted my woes about Audi and how I was being given the run around by a dealer. Within 20 minutes I was speaking to customer services and by the end of the day my problem had been dealt with.

I'm not saying its going to get you a result but if enough folk post on the Facebook page or tweet them, it might give them the shake up they need.

There is nothing to lose.

Thanks p3asa, good point.  I prefer to play it the polite way for a bit longer but if it doesn't yield results your idea may become the best bet!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 07 August 2013, 23:51
Unfortunately bear, being "too" polite doesn't often yield results when it comes to customer service.  I wasn't nasty or rude in any of my communications, but I was very firm and persistent until I got what I deemed adequate attention from appropriate people.  Prior to that point my unconfirmed build week was 38' and after several calls and texts saying they are doing everything they can to move things, lo and behold, it went to week 32 and stayed there.  Now, it may have ended up at 32 anyway without my intervention, but when it comes to customer service for both praise and complaints, I am very vocal about it, otherwise how are they to learn?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: drisser on 08 August 2013, 07:30
I reckon PP demand is one issue but they wont admit it

I think I read in a road test VW reckoned a take up of only about 1 in 3.  The Poll on here showed it to be much higher, and lets face it that option involves proper expensive Hareware they wont want to hold in stock longer than needed - bigger discs, calipers, differential etc.  All the stuff that costs money.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 08 August 2013, 08:20
When I used the "executive" number yesterday, I got asked, rather rudely, "How did you get this number?" YMMV

I rang them yesterday just to check I was still at BW37 and got asked the same thing.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tommygund on 08 August 2013, 09:38
I have just spoken to VW UK. I rang to discuss the stupidly long wait for my build week. At the time I rang the system was down apparently (and had been all morning) this was more  a blessing than a curse as it meant that he had to call his line manager directly to see what the situation was with my order. According to their system my unconfirmed build week 36 has now moved to confirmed 36.  :grin: . I thought better of just agreeing so I have asked the guy to email me when it is confirmed on his system, that way I also have an email address of someone I can pester. He did say that he was 100% sure that this was the case but to put my mind at ease he would do it anyway.

Secondly I asked about the delays to others on here (especially with regard to the rear camera) At this point he just about crumbled into a ball of jibber. He had no idea what to say! He came up with a theory that it wasn't about demand and supply but about batches of cars and shipment. This we know to be a load of rubbish. I have a feeling that either the people at VW UK have no idea what's going on or have been told not to say, either way I don't think this is appropriate.   

Anyway, I suggest that if you want to get a better idea of what's going on with your order give the 0800 number a quick ring now. With any luck their system is still down and you might get a definitive answer.

Anyway, Ill keep you In the loop when I get my email. 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 08 August 2013, 10:24
Thanks Tommy, this is good info.

It does seem like they've been directed to give only general excuses and not reveal the specifics of what the hold up is.  Thats just so obviously a stupid thing to do though!  Our feeling ignored/deceived is basically 99% of the problem so why would they create that situation themselves? :sick:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 08 August 2013, 12:31
Just asked my dealer where I stood with my deposit as I am close to calling it a day, they apologised and confirmed I would have no issues getting my deposit refunded.  :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 08 August 2013, 12:46
Just asked my dealer where I stood with my deposit as I am close to calling it a day, they apologised and confirmed I would have no issues getting my deposit refunded.  :undecided:

I just emailed my local BMW dealer to enquire about the M135i.

How has it come to this? :shocked: :angry: :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 August 2013, 12:54
How has it come to this? :shocked: :angry: :cry:

Lack of patience, information, and the knowledge you can get a faster, albeit uglier car for similar cash late in early October!  Personally, I wouldn't be considering a car that never factored into the equation in the first place just because things are delayed.  I know it's easy for me to say with mine being built now and all, but I've waited several months too, and gone through the hassle of VW Exec CS etc.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 08 August 2013, 12:57
I'm thinking along the same lines. Still don't like the look of the M135 and worried that the ride isn't anything like as comfortable as the golf. But at least i'll have a car!!!!

I sold my previous car when it came to the end of its contract and was prepared to be without a car for a little while.... But not like this is turning out
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 August 2013, 13:00
Watching 'Das Auto: The Germans Their Cars & Us' on BBC2 the other night made me 'Chuckle!'...

One of VW's targets for 2018 is to become 'THE' Best Car Manufacturer for Customer Service & Satisfaction... All I can say is that they've got one hell of a lot of work to do!!!!

Quote..  "we want to expand the Volkswagen Group’s customer base by acquiring new, satisfied customers around the world. In addition, we aim to increase satisfaction among our existing customers. We shall continue the measures we are currently taking to improve our productivity and quality regardless of the economic situation"  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 08 August 2013, 13:02
Watching 'Das Auto: The Germans Their Cars & Us' on BBC2 the other night made me 'Chuckle!'...

One of VW's targets for 2018 is to become 'THE' Best Car Manufacturer for Customer Service & Satisfaction... All I can say is that they've got one hell of a lot of work to do!!!!

Quote..  "we want to expand the Volkswagen Group’s customer base by acquiring new, satisfied customers around the world. In addition, we aim to increase satisfaction among our existing customers. We shall continue the measures we are currently taking to improve our productivity and quality regardless of the economic situation"  :grin:

i laughed at exactly the same point! Theyve got no chance in the UK if this is how they treat customers.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 August 2013, 13:27
I'm thinking along the same lines. Still don't like the look of the M135 and worried that the ride isn't anything like as comfortable as the golf. But at least i'll have a car!!!!

I sold my previous car when it came to the end of its contract and was prepared to be without a car for a little while.... But not like this is turning out

I've also been thinking about the M135i a lot recently... "Shall I? Shan't I? Shall I? Shan't I?.... After much deliberation I've decided to stick with my current GTi order.

It's a bit like queuing up at a supermarket checkout... The other queues always appear to be moving faster. And we all know what happens when you change queues? 9 times out of 10 you end up in the back again!!! :grin:

I'm just gonna Grin & Bear it....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 08 August 2013, 13:28
It's not just the actual waiting any more, the whole treatment and arrogance has taken all the fun and excitement out of what should be a wonderful experience.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 August 2013, 13:34
No doubt the M135 is a great machine, and few things on the road are going to keep up, but I kinda' agree with Gung-Ho.  It's like swapping lanes in straffic - in relative terms it rarely gains you much, and you end up at the same destination anyway.  Like I said, if the M135 had been a contender in the first place, I can understand swapping this late, but not out of pure frustration.  Whether it had arrived in 12 weeks with amazing customer service, or 24 weeks with poor customer service, it's still the same car that I'll be keeping for years and having fun in.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 08 August 2013, 13:53
I get what you are saying, and I'd agree with the shopping analogy just a few weeks back, but I think things have changed a bit now.

For the last few weeks VW have constantly pushed the estimated BW back every time it is about to be confirmed.  When I discussed with VWCS yesterday I think I got my first no BS answer when the chap said they have no idea when my order will be built.  Effectively this means it is on indefinite hold.  So back to the shopping analogy, I am standing in a queue where they have just put out a "sorry this till is closing" sign (you got in just before the sign went out apparently).  Now, should I sit tight and hope they let me in, demand they reopen the lane, or go to another supermarket?  I honestly don't know.

Right now I'm trying a polite negotiation for more information and some compensation from VW (I retain the right to become less polite later), but I may as well open a discussion with BMW at the same time.  If they offer something good I can take it, if not then I'm no worse off than before.  By not talking to BMW I only limit my options!

EDIT:
And BMW just got back to me and said they have an M135i in stock I can have today, or a factory order in October (and there is no chance of getting a GTI until October even if VW called right now and said all delays are over and they are fast tracking the order).  So basically its 100% certain that the BMW lead time is less than the VW one is whatever happens.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 August 2013, 14:06
And BMW just got back to me and said they have an M135i in stock I can have today

How tempting is that!!  Is this Elms you are dealing with in Cambridge?  They have a M135i there, brand new in the showroom in Black - it is the utter nuts.  And its got all the toys!

If it is Elms Bear, speak to Mohammed - he is a really, really nice bloke and one of the best salesman I have come across in ages.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 August 2013, 14:13
Well, for all my patience, it is really being tested...  I just called VW myself to just get a bead on where the car was at, and I've been lied to by my dealer, or at best, misled.  The car, according to them, was scheduled for this week but there are some delays so it has NOT gone into build...  Now, what is the number of my local BMW dealer?! :grin:  Total joke, and a good job the part-ex on my current car is guaranteed...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 August 2013, 14:16
Well, for all my patience, it is really being tested...  I just called VW myself to just get a bead on where the car was at, and I've been lied to by my dealer, or at best, misled.  The car, according to them, was scheduled for this week but there are some delays so it has NOT gone into build...  Now, what is the number of my local BMW dealer?! :grin:  Total joke, and a good job the part-ex on my current car is guaranteed...

You are joking?  What. The. F7ck.  So even a confirmed build doesn't actually mean its going to be built.  This basically means that if yours has been put back then its going to push everyone else's back as well.  I can feel my blood starting to boil.  :angry:

You must be livid Gryzor.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 08 August 2013, 14:18
I've been lied to by my dealer, or at best, misled.  The car, according to them, was scheduled for this week but there are some delays so it has NOT gone into build... 

If they tried to piss their customers off they could hardly be doing a better job!

As AAddict says all this sh!t really spoils the experience.  It makes me feel like I want ££££ deduced from the price to feel like I have a good deal.  If they'd kept me happy I would be happy paying more but they more they piss me off the more I look at that price and think do I really want to spend that amount on something that is making me this fed up?  I'm worried that even when it eventually arrives I'll have this bad taste in my mouth and not enjoy it like I should.

I'm pretty much 50:50 now on whether to cancel or not.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 08 August 2013, 14:19

I'm pretty much 50:50 now on whether to cancel or not.

I've give myself the weekend to decide....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 August 2013, 14:21
You are joking?  What. The. F7ck.  So even a confirmed build doesn't actually mean its going to be built.  This basically means that if yours has been put back then its going to push everyone else's back as well.  I can feel my blood starting to boil.  :angry:

You must be livid Gryzor.

Nope, not joking.  The woman on customer services didn't have a clue why, and my dealer claimed that some cars due before the shutdown were delayed...not sure what or who to believe now to be honest.  I am pretty livid, but nothing I can do, and yes, if mine is delayed, then chances are all are delayed...  Absolute shambles.  I will be on the phone to my contact at Exec Customer Services once my dealer calls me back.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 08 August 2013, 14:25

I'm pretty much 50:50 now on whether to cancel or not.

I've give myself the weekend to decide....

I'd love to go down to the dealer and take a look at this M135i they have in stock.  Unfortunately I'm in Portugal from Saturday so its not a good weekend for mulling things over. :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 08 August 2013, 14:25
Gryzor so were you confirmed on the online tracker too and they've said your car has been delayed?

Or have the dealer just said your 'confirmed' and then its now suddenly delayed because unless its confirmed on the tracker their word of mouth 'confirmed' doesn't seem to be worth the breath spent saying it.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 August 2013, 14:28
Nope, not joking.  The woman on customer services didn't have a clue why, and my dealer claimed that some cars due before the shutdown were delayed...not sure what or who to believe now to be honest.  I am pretty livid, but nothing I can do, and yes, if mine is delayed, then chances are all are delayed...  Absolute shambles.  I will be on the phone to my contact at Exec Customer Services once my dealer calls me back.

I'm seething for you to be honest.  I never saw this coming, its been a shambles to even get a build week confirmed, but to then NOT build the car when its supposed to is unheard of as far as I know.  It also means that all of our orders will be pushed back at least a week, so that's another reason to p!ss everyone off.

Yep, get on that blower to the Exec Office.  I wouldn't even bother waiting for your dealer, they won't know anything - and if VW are updating their systems they'll know even less - and there's no guarantee they'll call you back anyway.

What a f7cking joke.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 August 2013, 14:30
You are joking?  What. The. F7ck.  So even a confirmed build doesn't actually mean its going to be built.  This basically means that if yours has been put back then its going to push everyone else's back as well.  I can feel my blood starting to boil.  :angry:

You must be livid Gryzor.

Nope, not joking.  The woman on customer services didn't have a clue why, and my dealer claimed that some cars due before the shutdown were delayed...not sure what or who to believe now to be honest.  I am pretty livid, but nothing I can do, and yes, if mine is delayed, then chances are all are delayed...  Absolute shambles.  I will be on the phone to my contact at Exec Customer Services once my dealer calls me back.

Aaaargh Nooooooo!!!!! You friggin joking me.... If that's what's happened to yours, what's guessing mine has been pushed back as well. Really can't be arsed to phone up and check!!! Probably wind me up even more.

I'm off down the Pub!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Neil_MK on 08 August 2013, 14:31
There may be some truth in the cars being delayed before shutdown.  I was a BW28 (week before shutdown) and my car ended up rolling off the production line in WK30 (during the 'shutdown'). No explanation as to why however.

You are joking?  What. The. F7ck.  So even a confirmed build doesn't actually mean its going to be built.  This basically means that if yours has been put back then its going to push everyone else's back as well.  I can feel my blood starting to boil.  :angry:

You must be livid Gryzor.

Nope, not joking.  The woman on customer services didn't have a clue why, and my dealer claimed that some cars due before the shutdown were delayed...not sure what or who to believe now to be honest.  I am pretty livid, but nothing I can do, and yes, if mine is delayed, then chances are all are delayed...  Absolute shambles.  I will be on the phone to my contact at Exec Customer Services once my dealer calls me back.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 August 2013, 14:31
Gryzor so were you confirmed on the online tracker too and they've said your car has been delayed?

Or have the dealer just said your 'confirmed' and then its now suddenly delayed because unless its confirmed on the tracker their word of mouth 'confirmed' doesn't seem to be worth the breath spent saying it.

Way before the shutdown, I was unconfirmed at week 38.  4 weeks before the shutdown, so 7 weeks ago, I was confirmed at week 32 (w/c 5th August), and this status was showing as such on the online tacker too.  I mailed my dealer on Monday, and he confirmed both via e-mail and voicemail that it had gone into the early stages of build as of Monday morning.  Now, when I called VW, I get told that there was a delay and it hadn't gone into build at all.  Somebody is lying, and I'm really not happy.  The dealer can say "it's out of our hands" all they like, but they are the ones I'm dealing with, and they are the face of VW as far as I am concerned.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 August 2013, 14:36
This is really getting beyond a joke now.  Its not even funny in the 'got to laugh or I'll cry' way, its an absolute shambles and not amusing in the slightest.

I hope you get an answer Gryzor from VW Exec, and today as well, as that's not the kind of news you want to take into an evening.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 August 2013, 14:38
This is really getting beyond a joke now.  Its not even funny in the 'got to laugh or I'll cry' way, its an absolute shambles and not amusing in the slightest.

I hope you get an answer Gryzor from VW Exec, and today as well, as that's not the kind of news you want to take into an evening.

I know, I'm almost emotionless to be honest, gone beyond the laugh or cry stages.  As soon as I get off this conference call (:grin:) I'm going to be back onto my dealer because I want answers.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 August 2013, 14:47
This is really getting beyond a joke now.  Its not even funny in the 'got to laugh or I'll cry' way, its an absolute shambles and not amusing in the slightest.

I hope you get an answer Gryzor from VW Exec, and today as well, as that's not the kind of news you want to take into an evening.

I know, I'm almost emotionless to be honest, gone beyond the laugh or cry stages.  As soon as I get off this conference call (:grin:) I'm going to be back onto my dealer because I want answers.

 :grin: Its called shock!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 08 August 2013, 14:47
This is really getting beyond a joke now.  Its not even funny in the 'got to laugh or I'll cry' way, its an absolute shambles and not amusing in the slightest.

I hope you get an answer Gryzor from VW Exec, and today as well, as that's not the kind of news you want to take into an evening.

I know, I'm almost emotionless to be honest, gone beyond the laugh or cry stages.  As soon as I get off this conference call (:grin:) I'm going to be back onto my dealer because I want answers.

Utter Joke mate, hope you get some answers within the next couple of hours as to when it WILL then be done and a REAL answer too, not a fob off.

Hoping this doesn't affect mine next week but its possible!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 August 2013, 14:53
Hoping this doesn't affect mine next week but its possible!

I think its 95% sure it will put our BW33 back into the following week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 08 August 2013, 14:54
Hoping this doesn't affect mine next week but its possible!

I think its 95% sure it will put our BW33 back into the following week.

Aye  :sad: Guess it depends how many cars are affected or if its all cars? If it was only say a handful of cars affected, then potentially that 'handful' would be the only roll over, so then it might be a lottery of who is lucky and stays in 33 and who is part of the overflow and moves to 34 and so on.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 08 August 2013, 15:04
Might be the camera issue again.  Gryzor you had it on your order right?  Perhaps they thought they had enough but didn't quite.  If so match might be ok.

Until I hear from VW otherwise I am assuming that all orders with cameras are on permanent hold.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 August 2013, 15:05
I reaaly don't seem to give a sh!te about my GTD, this will be the most unexciting car pickup I have ever had, i'm sure. My enthusiasm has long since evaporated.

I suppose it's easy to say that when you have a slightly better looking variant of essentially the same car with fewer toys and the older, slightly inferior variant of the same engine - i'm in no rush for my GTD now.

It is despicable that VW are lying to customers or rescheduling a fixed build week, if there were better looking cars, better equipped and better value for money (thinking purely of the cost of depreciation and fuelling) i'd have bought one already.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 08 August 2013, 15:15
How much to import a Vette Stingray do you think? :evil:

I'll email VWCS a picture of me (I'll use my polar bear) sitting in one along with some thanks for their assistance in helping me make my next car choice.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 August 2013, 15:30
Might be the camera issue again.  Gryzor you had it on your order right?  Perhaps they thought they had enough but didn't quite.  If so match might be ok.

Until I hear from VW otherwise I am assuming that all orders with cameras are on permanent hold.

Yeah I've got the camera, so it could well be that.  If it is, there's going to be trouble!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 08 August 2013, 15:35
Might be the camera issue again.  Gryzor you had it on your order right?  Perhaps they thought they had enough but didn't quite.  If so match might be ok.

Until I hear from VW otherwise I am assuming that all orders with cameras are on permanent hold.

Yeah I've got the camera, so it could well be that.  If it is, there's going to be trouble!  :grin:

Better open up one of these if that is the case

(http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/5-0l-talk/65778d1238860202-pass-time-contestant-whupass.jpg)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 08 August 2013, 15:37
Better open up one of these if that is the case

(http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/5-0l-talk/65778d1238860202-pass-time-contestant-whupass.jpg)

HAHA!

I got this post via email where pictures don't appear.  Was assuming you'd posted something like a bottle of beer!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 08 August 2013, 15:37
Might be the camera issue again.  Gryzor you had it on your order right?  Perhaps they thought they had enough but didn't quite.  If so match might be ok.

Until I hear from VW otherwise I am assuming that all orders with cameras are on permanent hold.

Yeah I've got the camera, so it could well be that.  If it is, there's going to be trouble!  :grin:

Better open up one of these if that is the case

(http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/5-0l-talk/65778d1238860202-pass-time-contestant-whupass.jpg)

Or for the English speaking amongst us  :wink:

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs5/i/2004/320/b/2/Can__o_Whoop_Arse_by_xaeroth.jpg)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 August 2013, 16:06
 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 August 2013, 16:36
Still wrapped up in bloody conference calls...thanks for those tinnies though!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 08 August 2013, 16:49
Before I type this post I would just like to say i'm not trying to be belligerent, just an observation as a general lurker on the forum.

I'm really baffled as to the fact a lot of you keep ringing, and ringing, and ringing or emailing the dealer and are seemingly surprised you get different stories each time. Whilst bearing in mind for several months now we've all known the customer service/feedback hasn't been very good. But we keep pressing them and pressing them. It won't change overnight.

Now, a lot of people are suddenly deciding or thinking of switching to a 135 (Or something similar). A car they obviously didn't want as a first choice otherwise they would have bought it back in March/April over the GTI in the first place.

I've rung VW a grand total of 2 times since I ordered. I haven't got mad once. I knew pretty quickly the delivery time was very optimistic and wasn't going to happen. But I didn't want to drive a 120d so i'm sticking it out to get the car I want. It'll turn up when it turns up in my eyes, sooner would be great but sometimes you have to wait for the finer things in life.

I'm sure had I been ringing up every week, I would have gotten mad too with the ever changing estimated build weeks, and inaccurate answers etc etc. No misinformation in my ears has meant no getting stressed out, apart from the wait i've had a good experience. If you demand answers that they cannot give you, they will bullsh!t their way out of it and leave the customer pissed off.

Anyway the point i'm making is don't make a rash decision now for the sake of getting a car quickly.

If you read back the last 100 pages of this thread, the topic of conversation is the same - Ranting about lack of information, lack of a confirmed build date etc etc.
Soon enough we'll all have our cars. The ones we wanted. And the thread will change to joyous elation of "It took ages, the customer service was sh!t, but my god was it worth the wait". And all the people who didn't jump ship at this stage and buy something else will be the ones feeling the best.

I'm looking forward to that day. And the thought of being able to have a BMW in a matter of days isn't making me look forward to it any less.

I would also like to point out that BMW aren't angels you know. When the E60 M5 came out (When I worked at BMW), it was a similar story to what we see here with the GTI. Numbers were limited, they were bought and lead times were not made clear. Customers were demanding information. Dealers couldn't give accurate lead times. It was a similar scenario.

The 135 is readily available because BMW churn out cars like they're going out of fashion. I honestly think this will eventually hit your residuals too.

Again like I said i'm not trying to attack anybody, just some thoughts I had that I think would make for some good discussion.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 08 August 2013, 17:04
You make your point well, I don't take offence.  One thing that you didn't factor in though is this is hitting some of us financially (well me anyway).

I've twice had a family member lined up to take my current car, both times they have been unable to wait and have had to go elsewhere (first to a Nissan Qasqui and today a deal is being signed on a Suzuki).  On top of this my car is due an MOT and tax in September, probably 2 new tyres and is losing £250 a month in p/x.  That adds up to quite a bit.

The further issue is that as far as I can tell my car (and everyone else too I think) is not so much delayed as on hold.  In other words we're not talking about adding 1,2,3 extra weeks, we're talking about an unknown length of delay.  Might be 2 more weeks... might be 2 more months!  Why?  Because they f**ked up and didn't keep cameras reserved like they said they would.  As they screwed up I feel they are obligated to do something to help, especially as the understanding (or contract if you will) that was entered into when I placed the deposit has changed significantly by now.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 08 August 2013, 17:13
I agree with you that some people, like yourself, have been hit financially and fair enough. If it's going to cost you then the choice to stick it out isn't as clear cut.

Are our orders on hold? I haven't seen anything to suggest they are. My estimated build week of 37 hasn't moved for ages now and as of yesterday was still 37. I'm expecting confirmation next week.

The "Our orders are on hold" seems to have come from hear say and speculation. Nothing else. Correct me if i'm wrong?

It also seems a bit far fetched to me that the the VAG group, the company that invented the Bugatti Veyron, is having/allowing production of the GTI to grind to a halt because of a camera.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 August 2013, 17:14
Yep! You're quite right OF1... You have some valid points there. "Patience is Bitter, but its Fruit is sweet!"

Having said that this is great thread for venting our frustrations. Without it I would have gone mad by now.

Like you said I don't think we should make any rash decisions and go looking for alternatives. What I would say is that the M135i was my initial first choice over the GTi, which is why I was rather tempted to go down that route again.

But like I said earlier, I've waited this long already, I might as well grin and bear it...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 August 2013, 17:19
To be fair to myself OF1, since I got my confirmed build week of 32 over 7 weeks ago, I called and mailed a grand total of zero times.  I mailed my dealer Monday just to check it was going into build, and was told it was.  Today, I called VW just to check, because I have to plan some travel for a few days on business in September so wanted to try and objectively work around it.  For me to get told that it is actually NOT in build goes beyond any level of crap customer service I had in the past.

Having said that, I generally agree with what you are saying, and there is no way I'd change for a car I never considered before "just because".  Though, as Bear pointed out, some people are being hit financially by not getting their part-ex secured, and they made that decision based on poor information at the time.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 08 August 2013, 17:19
For the last few weeks My "estimated" BW has been progressively pushed back just as it is due to be confirmed.  34 > 35 > 36 > 37 (currently).  On each occasion when they said it was pushed back I asked why and they said "very sorry, but it will go confirmed next week, we're sure this time."

Yesterday I called them as they hadn't called me as usual.  I got talking to a different guy who told me the reason it is constantly pushed back is because they do not have cameras and they do not have an ETA for when they will have cameras.  I call that "on hold" because there is no estimate.  Giving an estimate that moves forward in time at the same rate that time passes is nonsensical.

You could ask why I believe this latest statement over all the other stuff we've been told.  Only answer I can give is it fits, and all the other stuff has been systematically proven false (otherwise I'd be driving my GTI now or very very soon).

EDIT:
Oh yes, and yesterday they said they would be calling me to talk about it today.  They haven't.  I've given them two calls to remind them and both times promised a call back.  Still waiting. :whistle:

I need a proper no BS estimate from them.  I'm not waiting forever for a car that may or may not eventually materialise.  And frankly, I want them to do something to relieve the problems they have caused.  Its not much to ask.  for starters they could honour the original p/x I had at the value for July so that I don't lose that money.  Still doesn't cover the tax, MOT or any work that needs doing but it would be a start!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 August 2013, 17:30
Valid points OF1. I myself haven't phoned since I was given a confirmed date of BW33 8 weeks ago. However, if it slips after being confirmed I will not be happy as I'm the same as Bear, this wait has hit me financially. I've all ready had to shell out for an MOT and a new tyre which if my 'highly unlikely to change, if at all' BW of 26 had been adhered to (I have the email from VW, not from my dealer) I wouldn't have had to pay out. My car is also due a service and RFL in October and the thought of paying out for that for that p1sses me off no end, especially as I was told 31 July latest delivery when I originally ordered.

I've no intention of cancelling or getting a M135i. I've waited this long and ill continue to wait. It just grates somewhat.  My frustration is borne from a combination of the above, being really bored sh1tless of my current car, spunking money on petrol as its consumption is sh1te having thought it'd be long gone by now, and a 'I want it now' childish streak!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 08 August 2013, 17:48
Call back finally came.  Here is the summary:

1) Usual apologies.
2) They "hope" the estimated BW will not be pushed back any further.  I guess we all hope that but past experience is not encouraging on this matter.
3) Yes the cameras are "probably" the problem.  But they won't confirm anything and claim they don't really know themselves. :huh:
4) I explained the p/x situation.  They said they'd look into it and might be able to help (implication was they might take the p/x now and provide a courtesy car - should I ask for a GTI demo? hehe)
5) They say all models in first year of production should come with a 20 week lead time estimate (I guess this is a rebuke to the dealer for telling me end July delivery but I see it more as a VWUK process failure... whatever)

They will text me next week and then call on Tues 20th (because I'm away next week).  So here's hoping that call will include a CONFIRMED BW and not another estimate pushed back by another 2 weeks!  Whatever happens what are we talking for delivery now?  End of October? :sad:

Oh yes, and they said they were "escalating" the matter.  Though it wasn't clear to me if this means any extra effort/pressure is applied to get things moving or if its more of a buzz word meant to convey that they recognise I'm not a happy customer, but that they are already doing all they can/are willing to.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 August 2013, 17:56
OK, so I got a call from my dealer, who was extremely apologetic (to be expected) and said that they have escalated to exec and they have spoken to contacts in Germany.  Essentially, the car HAS gone into build, but it is at the very early stages of the production line, and there have been some delays that have resulted in it not progressing through as fast as it should.  They wouldn't say what the delays were, but I should expect significant movement over the next few days...

Taken with a pinch of salt, but as ever, you choose to believe the info. that makes you feel good until the next bit of bad news!  :grin:  We should all club together and write a new reality show!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 08 August 2013, 17:57
We should all club together and write a new reality show!

"ding" (light bulb coming on).  "Days of our VW" blog anyone? hehehe.

Nah bad idea, can barely cope as it is.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 August 2013, 18:00
"ding" (light bulb coming on).  "Days of our VW" blog anyone? hehehe.

Nah bad idea, can barely cope as it is.

"GTI TIG" was the name I had going around, 'cos that all it feels like we've been playing!  Staring Bill the Bear and co, coming to a forum near you soon  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 08 August 2013, 19:25
Called my dealer this morning, my GTI is also meant to being built this week. Was pushed back when they moved the factory shutdown forward.

Before I had the chance to say anything she said "I'm on the case, the chassis number should have appeared on the system by now but hasn't... I'll call you back when I find out what's going on"

No call back of course, and didn't answer the phone at all this afternoon.

I don't want any other car... and yes I'll wait even if it's delayed (again) but I'd be much happier if VW gave some more constant, honest feedback as to what's going on.

I find it very strange that VW promoted their 'Online tracker' on their FB page the day before they then took it offline...



Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 August 2013, 20:53
Called my dealer this morning, my GTI is also meant to being built this week. Was pushed back when they moved the factory shutdown forward.

Before I had the chance to say anything she said "I'm on the case, the chassis number should have appeared on the system by now but hasn't... I'll call you back when I find out what's going on"

No call back of course, and didn't answer the phone at all this afternoon.

I don't want any other car... and yes I'll wait even if it's delayed (again) but I'd be much happier if VW gave some more constant, honest feedback as to what's going on.

I find it very strange that VW promoted their 'Online tracker' on their FB page the day before they then took it offline...

You don't have the camera do you? Which shows the delays blamed in the camera are total b0llocks. That's all of us shunted by a week back AGAIN then.

At the risk of sounding like a moaning (unt, this is the last time I buy a launch car.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 08 August 2013, 21:11
Nope no camera. I'll try again tomorrow and see if I can get an update.

Whilst I can't work out how she would know this, she did say at the time that they appear to be pushing manufacture for 'customer ready' cars that will be held in stock locations.

I'm just going to forget I heard that for now....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: harryhackenbacker on 08 August 2013, 21:20
Ordered mine 4th of may original week given 42 , changed a few times now down for Wk 37 , spec performance chassis,
ACC, ONYX ,19 inch , Dyno , park assist , sat nav , Camera , Keyless ,Winter Pack .
Having been through this before ,am sitting patiently ,and looking forward to the Day  :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 08 August 2013, 21:27
Like I said I have the camera and I haven't been shunted. In may my estimated build week was 38. It's now been at estimated 3 for ages.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 August 2013, 21:31
Like I said I have the camera and I haven't been shunted. In may my estimated build week was 38. It's now been at estimated 3 for ages.

That's because you haven't reached the 4 week limit yet OF1; we're only on BW32 which means you won't know whether you've been shunted until BW34.  And if BW32 customers are being moved back a week to BW33, that impies you'll be BW39 at the earliest.  And then the camera may put you back further.

Still calm about things?!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 August 2013, 21:55
They say all models in first year of production should come with a 20 week lead time estimate (I guess this is a rebuke to the dealer for telling me end July delivery but I see it more as a VWUK process failure... whatever)

How can they say that when you can get a standard Golf 7 in 10-12 weeks, and have been able to since launch (it hasn't been out a year yet either). VW are architects of waits via the dealership allocation system and on top of that they seemed to have cocked up with the camera situation.

More spin from them that doesn't ring true. I hope they honour you p/x offer but why didn't you pin it down at time of order and let them cop for any losses should it drag out? They were always going to offer you less at pick-up on a variable p/x deal. They should be able to do something for you - they can claim compensation from VW for a confirmed order accepted by VW UK taht isn't built within 20 weeks of order, no reason why they shouldn't apply for it to recompense you (or themselves if they give you the July offer value).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 August 2013, 22:05
OK, so I got a call from my dealer, who was extremely apologetic (to be expected) and said that they have escalated to exec and they have spoken to contacts in Germany.  Essentially, the car HAS gone into build, but it is at the very early stages of the production line, and there have been some delays that have resulted in it not progressing through as fast as it should.  They wouldn't say what the delays were, but I should expect significant movement over the next few days...

Taken with a pinch of salt, but as ever, you choose to believe the info. that makes you feel good until the next bit of bad news!  :grin:  We should all club together and write a new reality show!

Considering a Golf is supposed to be done and dusted within 30 hours of commencement of build (unsure if that is assembly time post-paintshop or includes all stages including shell welding, it seems incredible that you may have a painted shell in stasis because it is missing some parts. Would they really build and paint your shell just to store it somewhere when they can just build it when they do have your parts, at the cost of probably 10-15 hours? Or even progressed it past that stage and have started main assembly only to take it off the line when a part wasn't available. Ford Transit shell/chassis assembly is a 2 hour process, then there is approx 8 hours to degrease, phosphate dip, cathodic protection and undercoat, pigment coat then lacquer coat all with Infrared oven curing.

Some more dealer or VWUK BS?

When I rang about my dad's GTD to ask if it was getting built that week, the person I spoke to was able to tell me exactly what stage it was at - imminent exit from the paintshop for main assembly and expected to be on a train to Emden within 3 days.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 August 2013, 23:48
I've no idea monkeyhanger, all I can go on is what I've been told, which could be pure BS and the thing may not be in build at all.  You're right, it doesn't make sense to hold a car in part-build.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 09 August 2013, 00:01
A (standard) Golf is meant to have a '30' hour build time over two to four days... not 'built in 30 hours'...

GTI's are made on an entirely separate production line, with much more manual intervention. Particularly if you have the performance pack. In which the engines and front shocks are fitted by hand.

You're comparing this to the process of a Ford Transit!?... that's like comparing the build of the Golf to that of a Ferrari.

VW are not unique in these delays, I've had BMW's suffer exactly the same issues and worse. If you order a car before it is readily available, then you will get it when it arrives.

I'm also frustrated at the delay in my Golf GTI being delivered, but I'd rather it was late and correct.










Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 09 August 2013, 00:06
A (standard) Golf is meant to have a '30' hour build time over two to four days... not 'built in 30 hours'...

GTI's are made on an entirely separate production line, with much more manual intervention. Particularly if you have the performance pack. In which the engines and front shocks are fitted by hand.

You're comparing this to the process of a Ford Transit!?... that's like comparing the build of the Golf to that of a Ferrari.

VW are not unique in these delays, I've had BMW's suffer exactly the same issues and worse. If you order a car before it is readily available, then you will get it when it arrives.

I'm also frustrated at the delay in my Golf GTI being delivered, but I'd rather it was late and correct.


Hmm, interesting... Whats the source of that info mate?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 09 August 2013, 02:16
Source? I don't think I've mentioned anything that isn't well known already?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 09 August 2013, 07:07
Couple of you tube clips show that engines and shocks aren't fitted by hand. why would a pp build be any different for engine and shocks? it's been said over and over on here and by countless dealers that in general car built on a Monday is sat at dockside waiting for a boat by the latest Friday of the same week. I can't see them half building one for gryzor and then realising something's holding them up. more VW rhetoric to wind us all up  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 09 August 2013, 07:31
Source? I don't think I've mentioned anything that isn't well known already?


I didn't know GTI/D's were made on a different line? And i also didn't know the PP car had the shocks fitted by hand.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: DorsetDave on 09 August 2013, 08:18
Should be the day when my build date is confirmed. All I've got is this:-

"Thank you for visiting our vehicle delivery tracker. We are making some improvements to the content you see at each stage, so the vehicle delivery tracker is currently unavailable.

Please check back in a few days. We apologise for any inconvenience."

 :sad: :sad: :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 09 August 2013, 08:50
I think some people think their GTI/GTD is a Ferrari. A top end Transit Tourneo has just as complex a build as a Golf, the end result might not be quite a pleasure to drive, but no less complex - especially when you factor into the equation custom fleet builds that differ from main spec because BT, Dynorod, British Gas etc require a non standard interior like tooling racks etc.

Their list of optional extras are no less complex than VWs offerings - eco tech, quick clear windscreens (as standard on the bottom spec!), rain/light sensors, complex entertainment satnav...the list goes on. You can even specify your tyres, such as Goodyear mud and snow, Goodyear allweather, Continental allweather, 3 brands of summer tyres etc.

How much manual intervention do you think a GTI gets over a standard Golf? It's not a hand-built Bentley, but all Golfs will have some manual fitment, there are some tasks that robots will struggle to do from a limitation of access - most of the internals will be manually fitted with air tools on all Golfs.  Almost everything you can fit (or that is standard fit) to a GTI/GTD is speccable on a lesser Golf, from a tooling point of view there is nothing uniquely required for the GTI/GTD. Different grilles and trim are screwed on the same way as lesser models, using the same fixing points, as are the "unique" seats, steering wheels and gearsticks.

I used that as an example as I used to work at the Ford Transit plant and saw all of the processes in detail, modifying lines to accomodate more efficient layouts for the workers, new robots etc. All car plants are complex because their product is complex - just down the road from me is Sunderland Nissan, the most efficient car plant in the world, a centre of excellence in the automotive industry.

Are GTI/GTD really built on a different line to the other models? Haven't seen anything to indicate this, and from a production point of view it would be massively inefficient for such a low volume model variant which shares probably 95% of it's components with a GT to have it's own line.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 09 August 2013, 09:01
They're not built on a different line GtG.  That doesn't make sense whatsoever.  Its just more VW BS.

I think we all need to accept that anyone who has a BW32 and onwards is looking at yet another delay, at least a week possibly two.  Brilliant service for a £30k car.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 09 August 2013, 10:01
I didn't know GTI/D's were made on a different line?

Yeah I thought they were on the same "line".  I had heard that the sunroof is on a separate line.  I think we're really talking about branches of one mega line though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 09 August 2013, 12:34
I couldn't resist calling VW Customer Services.  They confirm that I still have a BW of 33 ie. Monday.  He said it will not change once its given a slot.  Now given others experiences I'm not going to jump up and down with joy just yet, however this does show that if there are any delays because of a build up of cars not built in BW32 this hasn't shown up on VW UK's systems as of today.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 09 August 2013, 12:44
I couldn't resist calling VW Customer Services.  They confirm that I still have a BW of 33 ie. Monday.  He said it will not change once its given a slot.  Now given others experiences I'm not going to jump up and down with joy just yet, however this does show that if there are any delays because of a build up of cars not built in BW32 this hasn't shown up on VW UK's systems as of today.

Good to hear this from my perspective as I'm a 33'er as well!
Could be like you say that perhaps the problem just isn't reflected at their end yet.

However that line "it will NOT change once its given a slot". That makes me wonder if, say a car is delayed for some reason and its build is partially complete, that makes me wonder if that car then isn't just continued as soon as possible, but rather it has to wait until the next available free "slot" so other orders arent impacted.

Possible theory I guess, but then if your that unlucky person, and your part comes in the next day, you then have to wait until the next free assigned slot!? I know I'd want it doing the moment whatever was the issue was resolved, not wait yet again for the next free slot...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 09 August 2013, 13:00
Yes, if you've been the one delayed you'd want the next batch pushed back to fit yours in; alternatively if you're in the next batch you don't want to be pushed back!

Fingers crossed it will sort itself out and everyone will get their cars built in the week they've been confirmed; the wait is long enough without adding a factory delay into the equation!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tommygund on 09 August 2013, 13:18
Finally moved to build week confirmed! AT LAST!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 09 August 2013, 13:27
Finally moved to build week confirmed! AT LAST!

Speaking from recent experience, it means nothing!  :grin:

Good news for all who reach that status though!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tommygund on 09 August 2013, 13:29
Finally moved to build week confirmed! AT LAST!

Speaking from recent experience, it means nothing!  :grin:

Good news for all who reach that status though!

HA ha, cheers. ;) the joy of looking at that tracker and having a different emblem moving fills me with happiness and possibly misplaced confidence!

We shall see.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 09 August 2013, 14:39
Im just off the phone to my dealer. My build week 32 has now been pushed back to week 33.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 09 August 2013, 14:47
Im just off the phone to my dealer. My build week 32 has now been pushed back to week 33.

Looking at your spec, it would seem likely that mine has been pushed back too.  I really don't believe that it went into build and got held up by something unforeseen. 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 09 August 2013, 15:06
Yeah my dealer was saying mine hasnt even entered production.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 09 August 2013, 15:13
Yeah my dealer was saying mine hasnt even entered production.

Well, I got told it had on Monday, then yesterday VW Customer Services said it hadn't, and then my dealer spoke to somebody in Germany and they said it had entered production but was delayed slightly going through...  So, who knows eh?!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 09 August 2013, 15:14
Maybe they painted it pink by accident...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 09 August 2013, 15:18
Maybe they painted it pink by accident...

Now that would be a sight huh?!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 09 August 2013, 15:25
Finally moved to build week confirmed! AT LAST!

Speaking from recent experience, it means nothing!  :grin:

Good news for all who reach that status though!

Is the tracker back up? Not working for me.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 09 August 2013, 15:32
Is the tracker back up? Not working for me.

Try here, courtesty of another member here (thanks pauliem):

http://live.volkswagen.co.uk/owners

Works as per the old one that is being updated.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 09 August 2013, 16:02
Is the tracker back up? Not working for me.

Try here, courtesty of another member here (thanks pauliem):

http://live.volkswagen.co.uk/owners

Works as per the old one that is being updated.

Cheers for that, it's down though. Must be our forum members breaking it. :-)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 09 August 2013, 16:15
They must have noticed an unusual amount of traffic visiting it, and to get their own back they probably made a few fake "Build Week Confirmed" status updates!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hobojim on 09 August 2013, 16:22
Booked in to drive the 135, stealer came down from 36k for a car in stock to 33k on the phone!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ginnes on 09 August 2013, 19:57
Well I went to see my salesman today to see what's happening with my order, ( was estimated BW 36) but nothing "confirmed" this week...

So I've slipped another week to an estimated BW 37,  while I was sat there he showed me the screen so I know it is showing as 37. He then phoned VW to see if he could get any more information. No reason for the latest push back but when he asked if there were any notes attached to my order he was told no. I had asked if he thought I was on "hold" because of rear view camera shortages and he was enquiring about that. He said that sometimes there can be notes attached to an order that he can't see on the dealer order system but are visible at VW.  It might have said something along the lines of " camera shortages may affect production" Anyway, there is no visible reason at the moment to say I won't be confirmed next week but only time will tell.

As there seem to have been a few BW 36 confirmed today ( some with rear view camera :laugh:) I'll keep my fingers crossed for next week..

Well done to those who got confined today, not jealous at all...  Grrrr.     If karma truly exists maybe I'll win the euro millions tonight ! Only 17 weeks since I ordered my car.

One plus is that dealer is going to take care of the major service my current GTI is now due for and with an agreed trade in value I'm happy to run around in my Mk 5 for a little while longer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 10 August 2013, 08:55
Just thought I would let you guys know that I have finally after 4 very long frustrating months got Build Week Confirmed on the Tracker.  I am not a religious man, but thank god my order has finally started to move from the irritating Processing Order.  With this in mind it seems I may have stayed at Build Week 36 confirmed.

Let's hope the others with Build Week 36 have the same good news. Also let's hope those of you who have been waiting just as long as I have with no good news get some soon about your orders, more specifically 'Bill The Bear'.  Just hang in their mate I think you could get a build week confirmed soon. I think you had DSG specced where I did not, so this may be why yours could have been put back in to a different batch. Also I do not have ACC specced either, do you?

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 10 August 2013, 12:40
Is the tracker back up? Not working for me.

Try here, courtesty of another member here (thanks pauliem):

http://live.volkswagen.co.uk/owners (http://live.volkswagen.co.uk/owners)

Works as per the old one that is being updated.

Cheers for that, it's down though. Must be our forum members breaking it. :-)


Even this one has stopped working now!! >:(
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 August 2013, 13:16
This one is still working:

http://pre-live.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order/beingBuilt
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jerseyal on 10 August 2013, 15:19
Hi all had a call from my dealer today giving me an update build week is now put back to week 37 I ordered on April the 4th here in Jersey in the channel isles Ah well the wait goes on !
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jsybrian on 10 August 2013, 19:01
Hi Jerseyal had same call as you from Jacksons if week 37 is for real we should be confirmed by end of next week here's hoping.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 12 August 2013, 09:06
So today is my car's birthday! Am I excited? Yes! Do I think it's actually going to be built today on time? No!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 12 August 2013, 09:49
So today is my car's birthday!

Do you mean you ordered it one year ago today?  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Did you ring VW to ask if yours has been started yet, or just going off the fact that yours is BW33 and this is the first day of BW33?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 12 August 2013, 10:14
So today is my car's birthday!

Do you mean you ordered it one year ago today?  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Did you ring VW to ask if yours has been started yet, or just going off the fact that yours is BW33 and this is the first day of BW33?

 :grin: it certainly feels that way!

I phoned them on Friday and I was told it was locked in for today. Whether it gets actually started today is another matter. I'll call them on weds/thurs for an update but to be honest I've heard so many BS stories I've come to the conclusion that it'll be built when its built. If everything goes to pan I'm guessing it should show in transit by Friday  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 12 August 2013, 10:23
So today is my car's birthday!

Do you mean you ordered it one year ago today?  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Did you ring VW to ask if yours has been started yet, or just going off the fact that yours is BW33 and this is the first day of BW33?

 :grin: it certainly feels that way!

I phoned them on Friday and I was told it was locked in for today. Whether it gets actually started today is another matter. I'll call them on weds/thurs for an update but to be honest I've heard so many BS stories I've come to the conclusion that it'll be built when its built. If everything goes to pan I'm guessing it should show in transit by Friday  :rolleyes:

Sounds like progress is finally being made Mark  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 12 August 2013, 10:28
So today is my car's birthday!

Do you mean you ordered it one year ago today?  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Did you ring VW to ask if yours has been started yet, or just going off the fact that yours is BW33 and this is the first day of BW33?

 :grin: it certainly feels that way!

I phoned them on Friday and I was told it was locked in for today. Whether it gets actually started today is another matter. I'll call them on weds/thurs for an update but to be honest I've heard so many BS stories I've come to the conclusion that it'll be built when its built. If everything goes to pan I'm guessing it should show in transit by Friday  :rolleyes:

When I chased my dad's up, on the Monday of his build week, the VW UK representative informed me that it was in the latter stages of painting. It was estimated to leave Wolfsburg on Thursday, and sure enough the tracker updated to "in Transit" on the Friday.

I will ring VW UK up on Thursday about mine if the tracker status has not changed by then.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 August 2013, 13:48
Well, it would seem my dealer was truthful about my car being in build the middle of last week with a slight delay from the Monday, as I just got a phone call from them to say my car is now in transit from Wolfsberg to Emden, and all being well I should have it within 4 weeks or so.  Very happy indeed :)

Those on BW33 should hopefully get similarly good news either later this week/early next.

Edit:  Tracker shows the same "In transit" so yeah, it would seem that they have finally got their act into gear.  I can't see it being long now for members like Jimble and Bear who are still yet to go confirmed...unless Bear cancels... ;)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 12 August 2013, 14:02
I was BW33 and mine shows nothing new  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 12 August 2013, 14:10
Good news Gryzor, crisis over! Now all you have to worry about is plain seas and decent shipping schedules!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 August 2013, 14:16
I was BW33 and mine shows nothing new  :cry:

You won't see anything new on the tracker until it has been built and is actually in transit.  Your dealer should be able to tell the stage of build though if you call them.

Good news Gryzor, crisis over! Now all you have to worry about is plain seas and decent shipping schedules!  :grin:

Yeah, one crisis over, hopefully no more to come! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 12 August 2013, 16:15
I was BW33 and mine shows nothing new  :cry:

I am BW33 too and nothing new on the system per my dealer  :cry:

I don't think there's any need for concern at this point however as its only Monday. If it does get built this week as it should, my dealer has estimated 2nd week of Sep ie. Monday 9th, which is a 4 week delivery period as expected.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 August 2013, 16:19
I am BW33 too and nothing new on the system per my dealer  :cry:

I don't think there's any need for concern at this point however as its only Monday. If it does get built this week as it should, my dealer has estimated 2nd week of Sep ie. Monday 9th, which is a 4 week delivery period as expected.

Yeah it could be any day this week that it actually goes into build.  To be honest, I'm just happy knowing I'll be getting mine in early/mid September and so don't have to bother asking them to keep it for a 63 plate.  I know I'm getting a private plate on it, but still, in the back of my mind and all that, still a degree of satisfaction!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 12 August 2013, 16:22
Yep, from this week on we'll all be 63. My dealer said there's zero chance of getting the car before the 1st, which is fine from a plate point of view.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redgolfgtd on 12 August 2013, 17:33
I love VW Customer service, rang today to ask why my build week 36 GTD was still showing as processing, very nice man said hang on i'll have a chat with sales team. Ah well he says your car is build week 37 and not confirmed, as soon as it's confirmed it will go to confirmed, your dealer shouldn't have told you week 36. Really I said well he didn't tell me locked into week 36, you lot did five days ago!!!!!
OH!!!!!
OH Indeed!!!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 12 August 2013, 18:10
I love VW Customer service, rang today to ask why my build week 36 GTD was still showing as processing, very nice man said hang on i'll have a chat with sales team. Ah well he says your car is build week 37 and not confirmed, as soon as it's confirmed it will go to confirmed, your dealer shouldn't have told you week 36. Really I said well he didn't tell me locked into week 36, you lot did five days ago!!!!!
OH!!!!!
OH Indeed!!!!!

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrk6x25XVU1qecbloo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 12 August 2013, 18:36
Your GIFs make me chuckle AA!

Sorry to hear that red.  It sucks they still can't give us proper estimations.  They've had so many calls to the 0844 number now I'm surprised the VWUK exec hasn't got onto the VW Germany head office and said, look can you not sort out a no BS response for our customers and some kind of offer to keep them sweet?

I guess they think we need to be more patient but personally I feel I've been fairly patient, waiting over 4 months now with no confirmed BW and contacting them (politely) less than once a fortnight... Ah well.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 12 August 2013, 19:41
Your GIFs make me chuckle AA!

Sorry to hear that red.  It sucks they still can't give us proper estimations.  They've had so many calls to the 0844 number now I'm surprised the VWUK exec hasn't got onto the VW Germany head office and said, look can you not sort out a no BS response for our customers and some kind of offer to keep them sweet?

I guess they think we need to be more patient but personally I feel I've been fairly patient, waiting over 4 months now with no confirmed BW and contacting them (politely) less than once a fortnight... Ah well.

More likely they'd ask VW central to disconnect the 0844 number.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 12 August 2013, 20:02
More likely they'd ask VW central to disconnect the 0844 number.

Its sad to see the level of assistance we're getting when German companies like VW, BMW, Merc are making a killing out of the UK market.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redgolfgtd on 12 August 2013, 20:24
I must admit I do find it sad. This is my 4th golf and 8th car from VWAUDI group all but one have been from new. I just find it amazing that such a large organisation can't tell you with some certainty when your car is going to be built
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 12 August 2013, 20:40
I must admit I do find it sad. This is my 4th golf and 8th car from VWAUDI group all but one have been from new. I just find it amazing that such a large organisation can't tell you with some certainty when your car is going to be built


You wouldn't mind if building cars was something they did on the side but this is what they do, you'd think they'd get it right by now wouldn't you?!?!? ::)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 12 August 2013, 20:46
James, any word on your car's eta?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 12 August 2013, 21:46
James, any word on your car's eta?

No mate, when i last spoke to VWCS which was last monday i think, they said it was still BW 37 and should go confirmed within the next week and a half so i'm hoping (in vane maybe) that it'll change this week as it would be inline with the BW36 guys going confirmed last week?

Which could potentially be a late sept early oct collection?

Here's hoping! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: p3asa on 13 August 2013, 22:28
Just wondering, if the camera is holding the orders up, why are the cars without cameras not being pushed forward? Obviously the production line just doesn't stop so what are they working on?  :shocked:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 13 August 2013, 22:34
Apologies for the delay!....

Right :)

In this video (as an example) that MK7GTI posted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8t9kE5MsCc

You will see at 3:10 the standard GTI engine & shocks/brakes being fitted by machine.

At 5:10 you will see the Performance Pack engine & shocks/brakes being fitted by hand. :)

I'm build week 32 (last week), called VW yesterday (first time I've called them, dealer was scaring me) on the standard customer support number. They said the car was currently being built. (That literally was it).

So fingers crossed for it will show as in transit soon :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 13 August 2013, 23:23
Apologies for the delay!....

Right :)

In this video (as an example) that MK7GTI posted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8t9kE5MsCc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8t9kE5MsCc)

You will see at 3:10 the standard GTI engine & shocks/brakes being fitted by machine.

At 5:10 you will see the Performance Pack engine & shocks/brakes being fitted by hand. :)

I'm build week 32 (last week), called VW yesterday (first time I've called them, dealer was scaring me) on the standard customer support number. They said the car was currently being built. (That literally was it).

So fingers crossed for it will show as in transit soon :)


At 3:10 the engine, shocks and subframe are being mated to the body which means they were assembled elsewhere prior to that which is what suspect is happening at 5:10, i think it just so happens that one is a performance and one isn't?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 13 August 2013, 23:28
Watch the whole video from start to finish.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 13 August 2013, 23:56
Watch the whole video from start to finish.


I've watched it a couple of times before but just watched it again, at 6:20 the engine he points at has silver calipers on which is the same place that the performance engine had it's shocks attached, i'm still not sure they're assembled on seperate lines. :-\
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 13 August 2013, 23:58
You will see him change from one line to another in the video.

The brake callipers fitted at 05:10 (by hand) are huge and have 'GTI' printed on them... the engine is then wheeled in (by hand) to meet the front of the car, you can see the diff regulator arms of the Performance version or the engine clearly in shot.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 14 August 2013, 00:00
If you're still not sure they're assembled on separate lines, go back to the upload that showed the factory shutdown dates. It clearly states different weeks for the Golf and Golf GTI production lines.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 14 August 2013, 00:01
You will see him change from one line to another in the video.

The brake callipers fitted at 05:10 (by hand) are huge and have 'GTI' printed on them... the engine is then wheeled in (by hand) to meet the front of the car, you can see the diff regulator arms of the Performance version or the engine clearly in shot.


Goes off to watch it again......... ;D
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 14 August 2013, 00:06
I think I've watched it a 1000 times.... in later video's he destroys it with customisation  :sick:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 14 August 2013, 00:11
Sorry mate, i must be missing it where the performance engine goes in the front of the car? Where abouts in the vid does it happen?


PS, i'm not trying to be awkward, honest.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 14 August 2013, 00:43
05:25 you see them wheel it in :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lagerlout on 14 August 2013, 01:20
Well, I reckon I can definitely confirm that orders are being delayed due to something on the spec sheet. I changed my car from five door to three and from pure white to Oryx and was initially given another order number. They then spec amended the original order. Well, now the last order placed has a confirmed build week and the original order is still unconfirmed, ie my order! Genius. So draw whatever conclusions you want from that. I assume its the paint.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 14 August 2013, 01:32
I conclude VW are incompetent assholes who know less about customer service than soviet Russia.  M135i is now my default option and VW basically are going to have to win my back because I've had it with their sh!t. 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 14 August 2013, 07:27
I conclude VW are incompetent assholes who know less about customer service than soviet Russia.  M135i is now my default option and VW basically are going to have to win my back because I've had it with their sh!t.

So if you haven't already, put your money where your mouth is, cancel the GTI and go buy the BMW!  Otherwise you are just going to be playing these games that piss you off even longer.  I completely understand your frustration mate, I really do, but VW aren't going to magically rearrange their build schedule for you, or give you huge discounts like BMW.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 14 August 2013, 07:41
Well, I reckon I can definitely confirm that orders are being delayed due to something on the spec sheet. I changed my car from five door to three and from pure white to Oryx and was initially given another order number. They then spec amended the original order. Well, now the last order placed has a confirmed build week and the original order is still unconfirmed, ie my order! Genius. So draw whatever conclusions you want from that. I assume its the paint.
From a personal view I don't think the camera is delaying orders anymore as I have one specced on my GTI.  Also I suspect the Oryx White paint Lagerlout specced on his car got a confirmed build week as it may be batched to spray around the same time as my car.  What Build Week do you have Lagerlout?  I have Build Week 36. I suspect the order was confirmed as there are not many Oryx White cars on order and they want to batch them together. 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 14 August 2013, 08:47
I popped in last weekend to the dealer and was told that the pano roof was now delaying orders.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 14 August 2013, 10:03
Lack of steering wheels and pedals will be next.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AlanH on 14 August 2013, 10:47
Lack of air for the tyres?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 14 August 2013, 10:55
My build week 33 is now in transit :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 August 2013, 11:20
My build week 33 is now in transit :smiley:

Good to know - seems that BW33ers may not be suffering any delays. Tried to check mine today - tracker hasn't updated and VW UK can't check it for me right now. Did you get tracker confirmation or did VW UK tell you it was in transit?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 14 August 2013, 11:34
Can't bothered going back through this thread! Is it normally thursday that they update the tracker for confirmed build weeks? Or have i made that up?  :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 August 2013, 11:35
Can't bothered going back through this thread! Is it normally thursday that they update the tracker for confirmed build weeks? Or have i made that up?  :huh:

Late Thurs afternoon/Fri morning.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 14 August 2013, 11:41
Can't bothered going back through this thread! Is it normally thursday that they update the tracker for confirmed build weeks? Or have i made that up?  :huh:

Late Thurs afternoon/Fri morning.

I'm just uncontrollably excited. My build week is still at unconfirmed 37 so hoping to get a tracker update tomorrow/Friday!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 14 August 2013, 11:57
I found out from the tracker

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23724295/Golf%20Forum/Tracker.png)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 14 August 2013, 12:15
Can't bothered going back through this thread! Is it normally thursday that they update the tracker for confirmed build weeks? Or have i made that up?  :huh:

Late Thurs afternoon/Fri morning.

Thanks mate. :wink: fingers crossed for the next couple of days then...... :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 14 August 2013, 12:28
I popped in last weekend to the dealer and was told that the pano roof was now delaying orders.

I have a pano roof and I was confirmed last week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 August 2013, 16:09
Just phoned up VW - car not started to be built as yet  :angry: told it will get started this week (which could be anytime up till Sunday)  :shocked:

Earliest delivery mid Sep.

F7ckin' cheers.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 14 August 2013, 16:14
Just phoned up VW - car not started to be built as yet  :angry: told it will get started this week (which could be anytime up till Sunday)  :shocked:

Earliest delivery mid Sep.

F7ckin' cheers.

Welcome to the mid-week delay club mate :( Fingers crossed for ya', and anybody eagerly awaiting a form of build week!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Chief1337 on 14 August 2013, 16:18
Just phoned up VW - car not started to be built as yet  :angry: told it will get started this week (which could be anytime up till Sunday)  :shocked:

Earliest delivery mid Sep.

F7ckin' cheers.

You were one of the first UK orders right chief? Early April?

That is absolutely crazy.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 August 2013, 16:26
Yup, 2nd week of April. Been waiting just over 17 weeks. Delivery will make it 21-23 weeks. F7cking pathetic.  I wouldn't mind but I haven't even got DSG, pano roof or the camera to hold things up!!

Some have been waiting even longer!  :rolleyes:

I'm annoyed today  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Chief1337 on 14 August 2013, 16:29
Stick Anjunadeep 05 on, it'll make you feel better. Trust me! :D
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 August 2013, 16:32
Stick Anjunadeep 05 on, it'll make you feel better. Trust me! :D

 :grin: full blast too!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 14 August 2013, 18:02
Good to see fellow Anjunadeep fans.  It was definitely made for Dynaudio with a Sub in the Boot.  Great to see some of us are now getting our cars in Transit as well. Roll on Build Week 36  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 August 2013, 20:03
Yup, 2nd week of April. Been waiting just over 17 weeks. Delivery will make it 21-23 weeks. F7cking pathetic.  I wouldn't mind but I haven't even got DSG, pano roof or the camera to hold things up!!

Some have been waiting even longer!  :rolleyes:

I'm annoyed today  :grin:

Yep, I have a few weeks on you - ordered on the Friday of BW13. Chances are mine hasn't been started either if they're doing a load of Tornado Reds at once. VW finance got back to me - initially gave me a settlement figure of £12611 (it was £12798, 2x £410 payments ago). I said no way, it should be about £12100 by now. Then he revised his figure to £12116 - he got his digits around the wrong way - sh!t for brains!  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 August 2013, 22:01
Yup, 2nd week of April. Been waiting just over 17 weeks. Delivery will make it 21-23 weeks. F7cking pathetic.  I wouldn't mind but I haven't even got DSG, pano roof or the camera to hold things up!!

Some have been waiting even longer!  :rolleyes:

I'm annoyed today  :grin:

Yep, I have a few weeks on you - ordered on the Friday of BW13. Chances are mine hasn't been started either if they're doing a load of Tornado Reds at once. VW finance got back to me - initially gave me a settlement figure of £12611 (it was £12798, 2x £410 payments ago). I said no way, it should be about £12100 by now. Then he revised his figure to £12116 - he got his digits around the wrong way - sh!t for brains!  :whistle:

Always on a con job, why does it have to be this hard!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lagerlout on 14 August 2013, 22:14
Well, I reckon I can definitely confirm that orders are being delayed due to something on the spec sheet. I changed my car from five door to three and from pure white to Oryx and was initially given another order number. They then spec amended the original order. Well, now the last order placed has a confirmed build week and the original order is still unconfirmed, ie my order! Genius. So draw whatever conclusions you want from that. I assume its the paint.
From a personal view I don't think the camera is delaying orders anymore as I have one specced on my GTI.  Also I suspect the Oryx White paint Lagerlout specced on his car got a confirmed build week as it may be batched to spray around the same time as my car.  What Build Week do you have Lagerlout?  I have Build Week 36. I suspect the order was confirmed as there are not many Oryx White cars on order and they want to batch them together.

no the exact opposite I have no conf build week at all but the later order they placed two weeks later is confirmed but the only difference is the body type and paint both had rear cam.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 14 August 2013, 22:19
Yup, 2nd week of April. Been waiting just over 17 weeks. Delivery will make it 21-23 weeks. F7cking pathetic.  I wouldn't mind but I haven't even got DSG, pano roof or the camera to hold things up!!

Some have been waiting even longer!  :rolleyes:

I'm annoyed today  :grin:

Yep, I have a few weeks on you - ordered on the Friday of BW13. Chances are mine hasn't been started either if they're doing a load of Tornado Reds at once. VW finance got back to me - initially gave me a settlement figure of £12611 (it was £12798, 2x £410 payments ago). I said no way, it should be about £12100 by now. Then he revised his figure to £12116 - he got his digits around the wrong way - sh!t for brains!  :whistle:

Bloody hell pal. Ordered on Friday BW13. I just hope you don't collect it on Friday 13th September or you really are goosed  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 15 August 2013, 08:35
I know there's a few on here with build weeks of this week (Week 33), and am I, but has anyone actually heard anything positive yet, or even know if their car is being built this week. I've tried twice this week to get an update, and all I get is "not 100% but it should be this week if that's what it was confirmed at".

On Thursday now and still don't know if the car's even been started or if it's slipped back and no ones telling me  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 15 August 2013, 08:53
I know there's a few on here with build weeks of this week (Week 33), and am I, but has anyone actually heard anything positive yet, or even know if their car is being built this week. I've tried twice this week to get an update, and all I get is "not 100% but it should be this week if that's what it was confirmed at".

On Thursday now and still don't know if the car's even been started or if it's slipped back and no ones telling me  :angry:

This is the same BS line they've been spinning me (and I've also phoned up a couple of times).  I think there's one BW33er who is now in transit, the rest of us are (according to VW) still not built.  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 15 August 2013, 11:10
What's the latest working tracking web address again?

Never mind, I found it: http://pre-live.volkswagen.co.uk/owners

That address should be on a sticky.

Still build week confirmed and nothing more.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: theflash on 15 August 2013, 11:15
What's the latest working tracking web address again?

http://pre-live.volkswagen.co.uk/owners
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 15 August 2013, 11:19
What's the latest working tracking web address again?

Never mind, I found it: http://pre-live.volkswagen.co.uk/owners

That address should be on a sticky.

Still build week confirmed and nothing more.

I'm the same MH.  Fooking annoying isn't it, after all the wait I was hoping (clearly stupidly) that this part would go through smoothly ie. in transit today after being built Monday/Tuesday.  Clearly I was a fool to believe this!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 15 August 2013, 11:34
I'm the same MH.  Fooking annoying isn't it, after all the wait I was hoping (clearly stupidly) that this part would go through smoothly ie. in transit today after being built Monday/Tuesday.  Clearly I was a fool to believe this!  :rolleyes:

Yup, hence the term "Build Week" and not a specific day :(  You'd at least think they would be able to give you an update as to when it is likely to go into actual build.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 15 August 2013, 11:41
I'm the same MH.  Fooking annoying isn't it, after all the wait I was hoping (clearly stupidly) that this part would go through smoothly ie. in transit today after being built Monday/Tuesday.  Clearly I was a fool to believe this!  :rolleyes:

Yup, hence the term "Build Week" and not a specific day :(  You'd at least think they would be able to give you an update as to when it is likely to go into actual build.

That's what irritates the most.  "It will be built sometime this week."  I can almost imagine them sticking a finger up in the air plumber style umming & arring about when to build it.  One of the biggest producers of cars in the world and they can't tell me when its going into build?  Really?

I shouldn't get so annoyed at it, I'm sure it will get built this week, but I can't understand why they can't be specific and also the p1ss poor customer information available.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 15 August 2013, 11:47
That's what irritates the most.  "It will be built sometime this week."  I can almost imagine them sticking a finger up in the air plumber style umming & arring about when to build it.  One of the biggest producers of cars in the world and they can't tell me when its going into build?  Really?

I shouldn't get so annoyed at it, I'm sure it will get built this week, but I can't understand why they can't be specific and also the p1ss poor customer information available.

Totally agree, it's just the lack of timely information and related poor customer service.  Even if none of it actually impacts when you'll get your car, it makes a world of difference to how you perceive the experience.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 15 August 2013, 12:04
My salesman has had a long talk with vw on my behalf and has been told that the camera is continuing (ongoing it seems) to delay the build. Seems that vw don't have an answer for it and that removing the camera will speed up the build week.

I have asked him for timescales of when it will be built either way so I can make a decision.....

He did in so many words say my only option is really to remove it
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 15 August 2013, 12:04
With all the bad press VW have been getting lately over, crap deliveries, poor communication, downright lack of product knowledge then issues with lane assist and now deliveries of the view view cameras, you would think this would be the easy bit.

Thing that worries me is from VW's own tracking website it says :

How long will my car take to build ?
- It depends on a lot of factors, but to give you some idea it takes around 30 hours to build a Golf, split over two to four days.

So as we are on Thursday, and if it hasn't even been started yet, it most likely is not going to be built this week. So why quote a build week if it's just a guess (as you might have guessed - not impressed  :angry: :angry:)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 15 August 2013, 12:06
My salesman has had a long talk with vw on my behalf and has been told that the camera is continuing (ongoing it seems) to delay the build. Seems that vw don't have an answer for it and that removing the camera will speed up the build week.

I have asked him for timescales of when it will be built either way so I can make a decision.....

the question is, is this for new orders, or does it also affect orders already placed with the camera that have confirmed build weeks !!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 15 August 2013, 12:11
My salesman has had a long talk with vw on my behalf and has been told that the camera is continuing (ongoing it seems) to delay the build. Seems that vw don't have an answer for it and that removing the camera will speed up the build week.

I have asked him for timescales of when it will be built either way so I can make a decision.....

the question is, is this for new orders, or does it also affect orders already placed with the camera that have confirmed build weeks !!!

My car was ordered on 28 April!!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Chief1337 on 15 August 2013, 12:29
On contrast, I was told this by my dealer:-

"Having spoken to VW, it looks as though changing the spec of your car wouldn’t necessarily change the build date of your car unfortunately as the date is currently fixed even taking into account delays for the rear camera option."
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 15 August 2013, 12:31
How long will my car take to build ?[/b] - It depends on a lot of factors, but to give you some idea it takes around 30 hours to build a Golf, split over two to four days.

I take that 2 to 4 days to mean 30 hours continuous or close to it, over 2 days, with the potential of starting on a Friday and ending on a Monday (assuming they don't work weekends). With that in mind the latest any week 33ers should be built to completion is next Monday.

Can I be arsed to ring again today and hope to speak to someone who whos what they're talking about?  :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 15 August 2013, 12:35
Ìf you call today MH I'll call tomorrow - I can't bear it today.  The chap yesterday told me the car could be started to be built anytime up to and including Sunday, as that's still BW33.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 15 August 2013, 12:40
On contrast, I was told this by my dealer:-

"Having spoken to VW, it looks as though changing the spec of your car wouldn’t necessarily change the build date of your car unfortunately as the date is currently fixed even taking into account delays for the rear camera option."

Well someone is not getting an honest answer. My build week keeps getting delayed and I'm currently unconfirmed bw37 - not that seems to mean much to VW  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 15 August 2013, 12:42
I know how your feeling guys but if your confirmed bw33 (this week) then you can move into transit at any stage between now and Sunday. I would wait til Sunday and if it doesn't happen then contact them
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 15 August 2013, 13:09
the question is, is this for new orders, or does it also affect orders already placed with the camera that have confirmed build weeks !!!

I would assume that based on my experience, it's fair to say that if you ordered with a camera, and have a confirmed build week, you will be OK.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 15 August 2013, 13:15
Correct. If you have a confirmed build week then you will get the spec of car you originally ordered. If any car comes and its not the correct spec then just dont accept it as its not whats been signed for on your order form. Ive got camera on mine and its confirmed for bw36.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 15 August 2013, 13:24
I wonder how hard it will be to get replacement components should a warranty issue arise with the rear view camera.  :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 15 August 2013, 17:20
still can't understand how far carsystems.pl are selling full retro fit camera kits for the mk7 for 350 quid. I know the parts are made in Poland but something's wrong when a major car manufacturer can't get bits yet a small independent company can.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 15 August 2013, 18:07
Could it rather be that VW have discovered that they have significantly underpriced the camera believing that it wouldn't be massively popular. Maybe they are making a loss on each unit and that's the reason they have pulled the plug.

Watch this space, whey they reappear the price charged will probably have doubled
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 15 August 2013, 18:30
Emailed VWCS to ask why they didn't contact me Tuesday as promised.  Then got a call few minutes later from my dealer.  I'm confirmed BW37.  Because of all the delays VW have sucked the fun out of this and I don't feel excited at all :sad:.  I specifically asked and the camera IS being fitted.  Or at least the dealer says "it's still showing as on there" which is about as definite as anything they say.

Really sorry for you guys still waiting for a confirmation, especially Jimble and now Ricepop because of his bad news.  Rice if you cancel I can put you in touch with a BMW with huge discount!

I actually made my mind up to cancel on Monday when I'm back in the UK and take the M135i deal.  Now I don't know what to do... Doubt I can cancel and get my deposit back after going confirmed... or you think I can?  Dammit VW!  I won't be going VW again that is for sure.  My first and last GTI I reckon. :sad:

Oh yeah, and when I told my wife the "good" news she told me she actually wanted me to take the Beemer.  Ha... :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 15 August 2013, 18:34
Great news on confirmation Bear!! Finally! As good as the M135i is if I were you I'd stick with the GTI - it's a bit more special & at least you know it's confirmed now!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 15 August 2013, 18:36
Emailed VWCS to ask why they didn't contact me Tuesday as promised.  Then got a call few minutes later from my dealer.  I'm confirmed BW37.  Because of all the delays VW have sucked the fun out of this and I don't feel excited at all :sad:.  I specifically asked and the camera IS being fitted.  Or at least the dealer says "it's still showing as on there" which is about as definite as anything they say.

Really sorry for you guys still waiting for a confirmation, especially Jimble and now Ricepop because of his bad news.  Rice if you cancel I can put you in touch with a BMW with huge discount!

I actually made my mind up to cancel on Monday when I'm back in the UK and take the M135i deal.  Now I don't know what to do... Doubt I can cancel and get my deposit back after going confirmed... or you think I can?  Dammit VW!  I won't be going VW again that is for sure.  My first and last GTI I reckon. :sad:

Oh yeah, and when I told my wife the "good" news she told me she actually wanted me to take the Beemer.  Ha... :sad:

You can still get your deposit back, it's way over estimated date. My dealer said no problem if I want mine back. Funny my mrs thinks I should get an M135i too :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 15 August 2013, 19:01
Good and bad news bear, in that it seemingly hasn't made your decision easier.  Of course cock-ups aside, it'll be fitted with the camera as you specced it.  If you decide to cancel you will have no issue getting your deposit back, as I don't believe it says anywhere that it is non-refundable, so they'd have a hard time. 

If I can be honest, I'd just learn to be happy with the good news, you've gone confirmed, and you are going to be getting the car you wanted in the first place. It's nicer looking, and barring the speed and better media/nav, what does the beemer offer that the GTI doesn't?  Turn that negative energy into something more positive and useful :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 15 August 2013, 19:04
Turn that negative energy into something more positive and useful :)

A Voodoo doll of VW's CEO?  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 15 August 2013, 19:21
I got confirmation today that my car is going into build next Monday, several weeks after initial estimates, but still happy enough.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 15 August 2013, 19:47
Just wondering if I should be concerned or not...

My GTI was confirmed BW32 (last week).

Has been 'confirmed' on the tracker for eight weeks now. Called my dealer Friday last week to see if she knew what the score was (had told me previously that the VIN number would appear on the system once they started to build it.

She wasn't in the best of moods it seemed when I called, having just apparently had to call other GTI customers to tell them their cars had been pushed back to BW 37 and 42. So I called VW customer services, they looked up the order number and said 'it's being built as we speak' (this is last Friday).

The dealer called me today and said 'Your car is being built, I called VW to confirm as it seems our other two cars are going to be pushed back again'. But still no VIN number showing on the system, never mind showing as 'in transit' on the tracker.

How can a BW32 car still be being built, and still not have a VIN number?? I think I need a beer  :sad:



Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 15 August 2013, 20:04
Emailed VWCS to ask why they didn't contact me Tuesday as promised.  Then got a call few minutes later from my dealer.  I'm confirmed BW37.  Because of all the delays VW have sucked the fun out of this and I don't feel excited at all :( .  I specifically asked and the camera IS being fitted.  Or at least the dealer says "it's still showing as on there" which is about as definite as anything they say.

Really sorry for you guys still waiting for a confirmation, especially Jimble and now Ricepop because of his bad news.  Rice if you cancel I can put you in touch with a BMW with huge discount!

I actually made my mind up to cancel on Monday when I'm back in the UK and take the M135i deal.  Now I don't know what to do... Doubt I can cancel and get my deposit back after going confirmed... or you think I can?  Dammit VW!  I won't be going VW again that is for sure.  My first and last GTI I reckon. :(

Oh yeah, and when I told my wife the "good" news she told me she actually wanted me to take the Beemer.  Ha... :(


Great news mate! Spoke to my dealer on tuesday and was still unconfirmed 37 but he said he wasn't going to check again till next tuesday-wednesday, has yours changed on the tracker yet? It stands a chance mines confirmed but it's just not showing yet.


Hpoe so anyway! ;D
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 15 August 2013, 20:15
Turn that negative energy into something more positive and useful :)

A Voodoo doll of VW's CEO?  :whistle:

Haha, somebody should give it a try!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 15 August 2013, 21:24

Great news mate! Spoke to my dealer on tuesday and was still unconfirmed 37 but he said he wasn't going to check again till next tuesday-wednesday, has yours changed on the tracker yet? It stands a chance mines confirmed but it's just not showing yet.


Hpoe so anyway! ;D

For BW37 hopefully you should see the status change on the tracker tomorrow?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 15 August 2013, 21:25

Great news mate! Spoke to my dealer on tuesday and was still unconfirmed 37 but he said he wasn't going to check again till next tuesday-wednesday, has yours changed on the tracker yet? It stands a chance mines confirmed but it's just not showing yet.


Hpoe so anyway! ;D

For BW37 hopefully you should see the status change on the tracker tomorrow?


Hehe! I won't hold my breath! :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 16 August 2013, 00:00

Great news mate! Spoke to my dealer on tuesday and was still unconfirmed 37 but he said he wasn't going to check again till next tuesday-wednesday, has yours changed on the tracker yet? It stands a chance mines confirmed but it's just not showing yet.


Hpoe so anyway! ;D

For BW37 hopefully you should see the status change on the tracker tomorrow?


Hehe! I won't hold my breath! :whistle:

Tracker says "with the factory" so yeah you could be 37 too!

I've just got to build the excitement up again now and try to forget that 6-cylinder sound... or I'm gonna find myself with 2 hot hatches and a disgustingly red bank balance. Hehe
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 16 August 2013, 00:42
Great news. Here's hoping both you & Jim get confirmed on the tracker real soon!

Just wondering if I should be concerned or not...

My GTI was confirmed BW32 (last week).

Has been 'confirmed' on the tracker for eight weeks now. Called my dealer Friday last week to see if she knew what the score was (had told me previously that the VIN number would appear on the system once they started to build it.

She wasn't in the best of moods it seemed when I called, having just apparently had to call other GTI customers to tell them their cars had been pushed back to BW 37 and 42. So I called VW customer services, they looked up the order number and said 'it's being built as we speak' (this is last Friday).

The dealer called me today and said 'Your car is being built, I called VW to confirm as it seems our other two cars are going to be pushed back again'. But still no VIN number showing on the system, never mind showing as 'in transit' on the tracker.

How can a BW32 car still be being built, and still not have a VIN number?? I think I need a beer  :sad:


I wouldn't worry too much Bud. Mine had been confirmed on the tracker for over 7 weeks and I too was confirmed BW32, but it only went into "Transit" online today. Hopefully yours should change on Friday or over the weekend.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 16 August 2013, 06:57

Great news mate! Spoke to my dealer on tuesday and was still unconfirmed 37 but he said he wasn't going to check again till next tuesday-wednesday, has yours changed on the tracker yet? It stands a chance mines confirmed but it's just not showing yet.


Hpoe so anyway! ;D

For BW37 hopefully you should see the status change on the tracker tomorrow?


Hehe! I won't hold my breath! :whistle:

Tracker says "with the factory" so yeah you could be 37 too!

I've just got to build the excitement up again now and try to forget that 6-cylinder sound... or I'm gonna find myself with 2 hot hatches and a disgustingly red bank balance. Hehe


I'M CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Week 37, about time too!! :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 16 August 2013, 07:08
Congratulations Jimble!

Me too!   :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Seems VWUK know nothing as only yesterday I was being encouraged to remove the camera option!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jsybrian on 16 August 2013, 07:29
Just checked tracker been week 37 unconfirmed for months gone to confirmed this morning.All us week 37 people seem to be going confirmed at once great news at last.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 16 August 2013, 07:46
Great news guys. This is where the real excitement by begins and also the sleepless nights
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 16 August 2013, 07:54
Finally  :tongue:

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/AnthonyAndrades/Screenshot2013-08-16at075024_zps34a923d8.png)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 16 August 2013, 08:04
Finally  :tongue:

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/AnthonyAndrades/Screenshot2013-08-16at075024_zps34a923d8.png)

Mine is still saying build week confirmed and it has a build week of this week. Surely it has to be started today to truly be a BW33 car?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 16 August 2013, 08:08
Yeah fantastic news guys ;)  Won't be long before this forum is full of GTI owners instead of wannabes!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 16 August 2013, 08:29
Also confirmed for BW37, not sure what I'm going to do all day for the next 3 weeks until I can start hitting that tracker button again  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ginnes on 16 August 2013, 08:41
And another BW 37 confirmed  :smiley:. Only 18 weeks on from placing my order  (13-4-13) :laugh:.

Apart from the Pana roof I think I have all the options that have been blamed for the hold ups, so maybe a bit of comfort for those who are hoping to get a confirmed BW soon but are worried their spec might hold them up.



Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 August 2013, 09:09
Great news BW37ers!  So just waiting on Bear to be confirmed for the same week then??  I fear for his mental state if it doesn't change today!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 16 August 2013, 09:19
Great news BW37ers!  So just waiting on Bear to be confirmed for the same week then??  I fear for his mental state if it doesn't change today!  :laugh:

I thought Bear was confirmed for that week?  So much happening right now, need to go back and re-read!  :grin:

Edit: Yeah it looks like it :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 August 2013, 09:26
Great news BW37ers!  So just waiting on Bear to be confirmed for the same week then??  I fear for his mental state if it doesn't change today!  :laugh:

I thought Bear was confirmed for that week?  So much happening right now, need to go back and re-read!  :grin:

Edit: Yeah it looks like it :)

 :laugh: I'm getting confused for him!!  Ah, excellent - in that case he can sack off that beemer and only has 8 weeks to go!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 16 August 2013, 09:28
:laugh: I'm getting confused for him!!  Ah, excellent - in that case he can sack off that beemer and only has 8 weeks to go!

Haha, you and me both, was getting hard to track what was happening with who for a while! :grin: The beemer was a good distraction for a while, but that's all it was ever destined to be ;)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: physio on 16 August 2013, 09:31
 :smiley:
: just checked my status moved to build week confirmed  week 37
I have the camera on order and sunroof  so they must have saved some
I ordered on 1 June  so can't complain   :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 16 August 2013, 09:36
smiley: just checked my status moved to guild week confirmed  week 37
I have the camera on order and sunroof  so they must have saved some
I ordered on 1 June  so can't complain   :smiley:

Jeez, that's a smack in the face for the likes of Jimble and Bear who ordered much earlier, but we are where we are - can either look forward to it and move on, or dwell on the past and achieve nothing but misery as a result! :grin:  Great to see all these build weeks confirmed though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jsybrian on 16 August 2013, 10:07
Has anyone noticed the date for Friday of week 37 the 13th.Hope nobody is superstitious.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 16 August 2013, 10:42
Good news all around guys.  Hopefully it is plain sailing from here on in...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: EliteBajan on 16 August 2013, 10:54
Checked this morning, after checking yesterday with no change, and to my amazement build confirmed for w/c 08-09-13.

I haven't waited as long as some but had my car stolen end of March and been on public transport ever since :sad:  I've just picked up an old runabout until I take delivery. I've got everything crossed!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: DorsetDave on 16 August 2013, 11:15
Whoooooopeeeeee.  Just looked and yes I've got bw 37.  The wait could be nearly over.   :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 16 August 2013, 12:32
Mine is still saying build week confirmed and it has a build week of this week. Surely it has to be started today to truly be a BW33 car?

Same, those vw boys better hope its their tracker that hasn't been updated yet else they best get a move on and better not rush it either!

Also do hope it moves soon as some people now getting 51 unconfirmed weeks making me a bit nervous the factory has burnt down or something lol.....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 August 2013, 12:36
Mine is still saying build week confirmed and it has a build week of this week. Surely it has to be started today to truly be a BW33 car?

Same, those vw boys better hope its their tracker that hasn't been updated yet else they best get a move on and better not rush it either!

Same for me too.  BW33 my ar7e.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 16 August 2013, 12:38
Wonder if this delay for us is linked with the people getting a week 51 given to them as an unconfirmed build week.

Hmm...... maybe it really has burnt down.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 16 August 2013, 12:40
Mine is still saying build week confirmed and it has a build week of this week. Surely it has to be started today to truly be a BW33 car?

Same, those vw boys better hope its their tracker that hasn't been updated yet else they best get a move on and better not rush it either!

Also do hope it moves soon as some people now getting 51 unconfirmed weeks making me a bit nervous the factory has burnt down or something lol.....

If I got put back like that i'd tell 'em to stick it and run my Scirocco until Christmas, then look at my options again.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lagerlout on 16 August 2013, 13:27
Hmm I'm BW37, at least I finally know something. Still not happy though I needed my car start of September, I ordered mid-April. So I assume BW37 will be delivered what, mid October?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 16 August 2013, 13:46
Seems a crazy amount of people getting 36-37 regardless of when they ordered? They seem to be grouping the GTI/D builds together.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 16 August 2013, 13:50
Seems a crazy amount of people getting 36-37 regardless of when they ordered? They seem to be grouping the GTI/D builds together.

As if there was a delay they just solved... And yet they're now saying GTI/D production delay until wk51..!?!?

WTF is going on over there?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redgolfgtd on 16 August 2013, 17:13
Ooooo just in from work and.....

Your order has been confirmed for production week commencing 08/09/2013

Knock me over with a rover
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Munrohuna on 16 August 2013, 17:26
Hi my build week now also confirmed week commencing 8/9/13. Has changed status since yesterday.

At last some progresss! Car was ordered mid may so not as long a wait as some!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: phil_790 on 16 August 2013, 17:27
Mine is still saying build week confirmed and it has a build week of this week. Surely it has to be started today to truly be a BW33 car?

Same, those vw boys better hope its their tracker that hasn't been updated yet else they best get a move on and better not rush it either!

Same for me too.  BW33 my ar7e.

Hi all,

Mine is confirmed BW 33, but have been checking the tracker every day this week and it’s still showing as Build week confirmed, emailed my dealer today, he didn’t seem too surprised that it’s not showing as anything other than BW confirmed, maybe it’s a 7 day working week and they will make a start on a lot of them over the weekend?

Cheers,
Phil
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 18 August 2013, 01:13
Just noticed mine moved to build in progress now. Any other 33'ers who were still stuck on build week confirmed been updated too?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: allycat45 on 18 August 2013, 07:56
I have been away on holiday for 2 weeks and noticed the new tracker format come online a few days ago. The status had gone to "with the factory" but no further. Was originally estimated week 40 and then told week 35 then told "confirmed week 37".

Emailed the dealer on Friday for an update as I was getting ready to fly home from the USA. He replied on Sat morning saying it had been put back 2 weeks, probably because of the rear camera issue (but mine would still have a camera).

Checked the order tracker on Sat night and it has changed to "build week confirmed 08/09/2013" which I think is week 37.

Great to have the tracker showing a confirmed build week at last which agrees to the last-but-one dealer update. The only niggling question is why the dealer said it had been put back 2 weeks in his email yesterday ? He did say he had just returned from holiday as well so maybe he was just working off old information/was too busy to check the system properly/other.

Let's hope he doesn't have access to something that shows it is actually 2 weeks later than the "build week confirmed" tracker which is showing week 37.

Paranoid, moi? :smiley:

Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you.  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 18 August 2013, 08:21
Good news allycat45, but as we have seen, a build week 37 could be that, or it could be 38...don't know what or who to trust these days when it comes to VW!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 18 August 2013, 08:23
Yesssssssss...............

At last, mines gone to "build in progress".

Getting excited now  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 18 August 2013, 09:06
Yesssssssss...............

At last, mines gone to "build in progress".

Getting excited now  :grin:

Chuffed for you matey! No need to ditch order for "Plan B".... a filthy Seat Leon with no DSG :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 August 2013, 09:46
Well f7ck my old boots, I've moved to Build in Progress - so excited a little bit of wee has just come out  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 18 August 2013, 09:49
Well f7ck my old boots, I've moved to Build in Progress - so excited a little bit of wee has just come out  :laugh:

Yeessssss!!!! I had faith it would happen  :wink: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 August 2013, 09:53
Well f7ck my old boots, I've moved to Build in Progress - so excited a little bit of wee has just come out  :laugh:

Yeessssss!!!! I had faith it would happen  :wink: :grin: :grin:

 :grin: I'm glad you did Craig!! I usually check the tracker first but I did all my other stuff (email, twitter etc) before looking at the tracker as didn't want to wind myself up when it hadn't changed - typical! Very excited now, the next 4 weeks are going to be awful  :laugh:

Any news on MH?!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 18 August 2013, 09:54
Mine too - is that all the BW33ers now in build (or even in transport for one lucky so and so)?

Hoping my dealer can pull a few strings to make mine a 2 week delivery - dealership is 8 miles from the dock, I am about 1.5 miles away and can see all the big ships coming into the Tyne from my house.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 August 2013, 09:55
Mine too - is that all the BW33ers now in build (or even in transport for one lucky so and so)?

Excellent news! It seems all of us have changed to build in progress - a week late but at least it's moving now - a good way to start a Sunday morning!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 18 August 2013, 10:02

Excellent news! It seems all of us have changed to build in progress - a week late but at least it's moving now - a good way to start a Sunday morning!

Officially it isn't late, but a Sunday start is pushing it. Impressed that the tracker seems to update in real time, rather than waiting for the admin to update it on the Monday. Now to look at the shipping schedule for port of Tyne....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 August 2013, 10:06

Excellent news! It seems all of us have changed to build in progress - a week late but at least it's moving now - a good way to start a Sunday morning!

Officially it isn't late, but a Sunday start is pushing it. Impressed that the tracker seems to update in real time, rather than waiting for the admin to update it on the Monday. Now to look at the shipping schedule for port of Tyne....

Is there a thread that I can go to to get ship information? And how do you find out the name of the ship that its on once it's built?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 18 August 2013, 10:10
Mine too - is that all the BW33ers now in build (or even in transport for one lucky so and so)?

Excellent news! It seems all of us have changed to build in progress - a week late but at least it's moving now - a good way to start a Sunday morning!

Yip great news guys. More new owners very soon and more glorious pics!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 18 August 2013, 10:12

Excellent news! It seems all of us have changed to build in progress - a week late but at least it's moving now - a good way to start a Sunday morning!

Officially it isn't late, but a Sunday start is pushing it. Impressed that the tracker seems to update in real time, rather than waiting for the admin to update it on the Monday. Now to look at the shipping schedule for port of Tyne....

Is there a thread that I can go to to get ship information? And how do you find out the name of the ship that its on once it's built?

Port of Tyne for shipping info Mark but I don't think it's possible to know what ship it will be on unless your dealer knows.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 18 August 2013, 10:18
Well it's not going to get on the "City of Amsterdam" tomorrow, listing only goes up to the 24th and no Emden origin ships listed before then for port of Tyne.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 August 2013, 10:19
Do all cars come into the Port of Tyne then? Is there no port for us southerners?!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 18 August 2013, 10:23
Do all cars come into the Port of Tyne then? Is there no port for us southerners?!  :grin:

I would say Teesside and up, all the way up Scotland will be Port of Tyne.

Grimsby (and i'm guessing Felixstowe?) for everyone south of Teesside. If Felixstowe is a VW receiving port, I would guess anything south of Norwich would be supplied by Felixstowe. If not then Grimsby will do everything else.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 August 2013, 10:33
No wonder I have to wait so long if it goes to Grimsby!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 18 August 2013, 11:09
No wonder I have to wait so long if it goes to Grimsby!  :grin:

Haha!  For better or worse, I'm quite close to Grimsby on the correct side of the river (north bank!)  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: peterdoherty on 18 August 2013, 11:42
It's sheerness for the south
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 18 August 2013, 11:50
It's sheerness for the south

So it is. I got a car that came in through there before (broker order fulfilled by Lookers Burnley), I couldn't remember the port used for the south until you mentioned it.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 August 2013, 12:29
Good info chaps, ta!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Buddy on 18 August 2013, 12:33
Yesss, mine's also changed to build in progress!   :smiley:
These next four weeks are going to draaaaaaaag
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Misterp on 18 August 2013, 13:08
Yesss, mine's also changed to build in progress!   :smiley:
These next four weeks are going to draaaaaaaag

What was your build date
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redpoppies on 18 August 2013, 14:04
5 door DSG with leather and ACC ordered 10/5/2013, confirmed build week was 33, tracker showed car being built this week and is now showing in transit
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redpoppies on 18 August 2013, 14:06
correction my order was 10/4/2013, silly me, it was such a long time ago
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Buddy on 18 August 2013, 14:17
Yesss, mine's also changed to build in progress!   :smiley:
These next four weeks are going to draaaaaaaag

What was your build date

33
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 18 August 2013, 17:59
Mine has gone to build in progress to, must have been some time today.(order 29/3/2013)build week 33 :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 18 August 2013, 18:22
Just checked mine, and while it still says in transit, the message has changed from whatever it was to the following:

Quote
Your car is in the final stage of its journey to the UK. On average it takes 10 days from build for this model to reach your local Volkswagen Retailer.

Can't recall what it said before, but it definitely said something about taking on average 3 weeks.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 18 August 2013, 18:25
Just checked mine, and while it still says in transit, the message has changed from whatever it was to the following:

Quote
Your car is in the final stage of its journey to the UK. On average it takes 10 days from build for this model to reach your local Volkswagen Retailer.

Can't recall what it said before, but it definitely said something about taking on average 3 weeks.

Certainly sounds like the new tracker is providing more detailed info
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 18 August 2013, 18:27
It would appear so, and more timely too going by what others are experiencing.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 18 August 2013, 18:29
Just checked mine, and while it still says in transit, the message has changed from whatever it was to the following:

Quote
Your car is in the final stage of its journey to the UK. On average it takes 10 days from build for this model to reach your local Volkswagen Retailer.

Can't recall what it said before, but it definitely said something about taking on average 3 weeks.
Says "on average it takes 4 weeks from build to dealer"or words to that effect
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 18 August 2013, 18:33
Says "on average it takes 4 weeks from build to dealer"or words to that effect

Ah right, 4 instead of 3 - thanks for clearing that up! I wonder if the text change means it's on a ship or at port ready to get on one?  We need more info!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 August 2013, 18:41
Says "on average it takes 4 weeks from build to dealer"or words to that effect

Ah right, 4 instead of 3 - thanks for clearing that up! I wonder if the text change means it's on a ship or at port ready to get on one?  We need more info!  :grin:

 :grin: I was going to say the same thing! Now I'm bored of looking at that message, I want MORE info!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 18 August 2013, 18:45
:grin: I was going to say the same thing! Now I'm bored of looking at that message, I want MORE info!!  :laugh:

Haha!  Tell me about it, what use is that message to me?!  :grin:  I need to know exactly where it is!!!  VW should invest in some portable GPS tracker units that dealers can remove and ship back so that customers can track precisely the location - could make it an optional service that us impatient ones can pay for  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 August 2013, 19:27
:grin: I was going to say the same thing! Now I'm bored of looking at that message, I want MORE info!!  :laugh:

Haha!  Tell me about it, what use is that message to me?!  :grin:  I need to know exactly where it is!!!  VW should invest in some portable GPS tracker units that dealers can remove and ship back so that customers can track precisely the location - could make it an optional service that us impatient ones can pay for  :laugh:

 :grin: What they should do is to employ someone to travel with the cars, then make his numer available to us. I'm not being ridiculous in suggesting we can them call him anytime....texts would be fine!! :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 18 August 2013, 20:20
:grin: What they should do is to employ someone to travel with the cars, then make his numer available to us. I'm not being ridiculous in suggesting we can them call him anytime....texts would be fine!! :laugh:

Oh absolutely, I'd be happy to compromise on real-text updates  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 18 August 2013, 20:21
Is moving to...

"Your order is with the factory and is currently being scheduled for production." (Step 2 of 7)

...anything to get remotely excited about?

Or am I just clutching at straws?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 18 August 2013, 20:23
The only thing that signals the end of your wait is a confirmed build week, no harm in clutching though!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 18 August 2013, 20:32
The only thing that signals the end of your wait is a confirmed build week, no harm in clutching though!

Friggin' b*uggers :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 18 August 2013, 20:37
Hang in the mate, when it goes to confirmed and then to build and then transit, the excitement starts to build again!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dirvy on 18 August 2013, 21:46
In sunny ibiza with little Internet contact. Had week 32 from dealer and confirmed build week
Could not get new tracker to work
Finally did, in transit. Woo. Also missed call from dealer(first contact from him without promting,
Will start new thread re that when get home. )
So must be something happening. Hopefully early September.
Was probably one of first to order. Go figure ad nauseum.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 18 August 2013, 21:48
In sunny ibiza with little Internet contact. Had week 32 from dealer and confirmed build week
Could not get new tracker to work
Finally did, in transit. Woo. Also missed call from dealer(first contact from him without promting,
Will start new thread re that when get home. )
So must be something happening. Hopefully early September.
Was probably one of first to order. Go figure ad nauseum.

About time mate  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 19 August 2013, 10:42
Now I've got a confirmed BW (37) I've plugged the new numbers into my little "tick off the days" excel calender.

Weeks elapsed since order: 17
Estimated weeks remaining: 9
Total time order to delivery: 26 weeks/6.3 months

Of course when the car is built in the assigned BW and how long it takes to transport mean there is some uncertainty here.  I'm guessing it could turn out to be anything from 24 weeks to 28 weeks...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 19 August 2013, 11:16
Now I've got a confirmed BW (37) I've plugged the new numbers into my little "tick off the days" excel calender.

Weeks elapsed since order: 17
Estimated weeks remaining: 9
Total time order to delivery: 26 weeks/6.3 months

Of course when the car is built in the assigned BW and how long it takes to transport mean there is some uncertainty here.  I'm guessing it could turn out to be anything from 24 weeks to 28 weeks...

This is all superfluous of course as you're now driving an M135i..... right?  :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 19 August 2013, 12:05
Now I've got a confirmed BW (37) I've plugged the new numbers into my little "tick off the days" excel calender.

Weeks elapsed since order: 17
Estimated weeks remaining: 9
Total time order to delivery: 26 weeks/6.3 months

Of course when the car is built in the assigned BW and how long it takes to transport mean there is some uncertainty here.  I'm guessing it could turn out to be anything from 24 weeks to 28 weeks...

9 weeks remaining with only 3 left to build week? Hopefully it shouldn’t take 6 weeks to get to you. On that basis (6 weeks delivery) my total time order to delivery is longer than yours by 2 weeks (ordered 4 weeks before you and my build is into the week after it was supposed to be). I never thought that a 6 month wait for a Golf would ever be the case. It will probably be the last time I buy a car at launch.

24 weeks total for you is more likely, maybe 23 weeks from order to BW if you’re lucky = 20 + 3 or 4 weeks to deliver (hail storms excepted). 24 weeks for me would see me getting mine sometime in W/C 02 Sept, which may be possible considering mine and my supplying dealership’s proximity to the receiving port.

Who on this website has the longest wait from order accepted to anticipated collection (based on 4 weeks post build) for a confirmed build week I wonder. Any BW13 orders waiting until BW37 to get built so far?

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 19 August 2013, 12:16
Why are we working on the basis of a 4 week delivery?  My dealer told me its 4 weeks minimum, could be up to 6 weeks.  I know your Dad got it faster but that was highly exceptional circumstances that I doubt will be repeated.  Given that every single estimate VW have given us has proved to be on the optimistic side I think we want to be careful here.

We've also seen that BW37 could mean up to "practically" BW38.  My personal estimate assumes build is not completed until Monday BW38, then adds 4 weeks for delivery, which puts me taking the keys Monday of week 42.  If delivery or build turn out to be longer this could hit last week of October or even November!  If delivery is fast and build is early week 37 then I could get hold of it 1st week of October (week 40) but its mad to hope for this given VW progress so far.  Even my dealer is talking about "mid" October (week 42)...

I think however you cut this 26 weeks (with potential for slippage) is what should be expected in my case.

I ordered 3rd week of April, but I know Jimble was before this so he is probably me + 3 weeks (which puts him on 29 weeks I guess!).  I doubt anyone is worse off than that, but willing to be proven wrong if there is another unlucky soul on here!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 19 August 2013, 12:20
Why are we working on the basis of a 4 week delivery?  My dealer told me its 4 weeks minimum, could be up to 6 weeks.  I know your Dad got it faster but that was highly exceptional circumstances that I doubt will be repeated.  Given that every single estimate VW have given us has proved to be on the optimistic side I think we want to be careful here.

We've also seen that BW37 could mean up to "practically" BW38.  My personal estimate assumes build is not completed until Monday BW38, then adds 4 weeks for delivery, which puts me taking the keys Monday of week 42.  If delivery or build turn out to be longer this could hit last week of October or even November!  If delivery is fast and build is early week 37 then I could get hold of it 1st week of October (week 40) but its mad to hope for this given VW progress so far.  Even my dealer is talking about "mid" October (week 42)...

I think however you cut this 26 weeks (with potential for slippage) is what should be expected in my case.

I ordered 3rd week of April, but I know Jimble was before this so he is probably me + 3 weeks (which puts him on 29 weeks I guess!).  I doubt anyone is worse off than that, but willing to be proven wrong if there is another unlucky soul on here!

I ordered 1 week after you, and am on the same schedule as you.  :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 19 August 2013, 12:26
Now I've got a confirmed BW (37) I've plugged the new numbers into my little "tick off the days" excel calender.

Weeks elapsed since order: 17
Estimated weeks remaining: 9
Total time order to delivery: 26 weeks/6.3 months

Of course when the car is built in the assigned BW and how long it takes to transport mean there is some uncertainty here.  I'm guessing it could turn out to be anything from 24 weeks to 28 weeks...

9 weeks remaining with only 3 left to build week? Hopefully it shouldn’t take 6 weeks to get to you. On that basis (6 weeks delivery) my total time order to delivery is longer than yours by 2 weeks (ordered 4 weeks before you and my build is into the week after it was supposed to be). I never thought that a 6 month wait for a Golf would ever be the case. It will probably be the last time I buy a car at launch.

24 weeks total for you is more likely, maybe 23 weeks from order to BW if you’re lucky = 20 + 3 or 4 weeks to deliver (hail storms excepted). 24 weeks for me would see me getting mine sometime in W/C 02 Sept, which may be possible considering mine and my supplying dealership’s proximity to the receiving port.

Who on this website has the longest wait from order accepted to anticipated collection (based on 4 weeks post build) for a confirmed build week I wonder. Any BW13 orders waiting until BW37 to get built so far?

I ordered week 13 but obviously the order didn't go through till week 14 when the books opened and have just got 37 confirmed! :sick:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 19 August 2013, 12:31
I ordered week 13 but obviously the order didn't go through till week 14 when the books opened and have just got 37 confirmed! :sick:

Yep, thats me +3.

Perhaps they'll build yours early BW37 as your order was first...  :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 19 August 2013, 12:34
I ordered week 13 but obviously the order didn't go through till week 14 when the books opened and have just got 37 confirmed! :sick:

Yep, thats me +3.

Perhaps they'll build yours early BW37 as your order was first...  :undecided:

I'm hoping they do it in alphabetical order as my initials are AA  :whistle:

There does seem a huge amount of people on BW37  :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 19 August 2013, 12:36
I ordered week 13 but obviously the order didn't go through till week 14 when the books opened and have just got 37 confirmed! :sick:

Yep, thats me +3.

Perhaps they'll build yours early BW37 as your order was first...  :undecided:

I'm hoping they do it in alphabetical order as my initials are AA  :whistle:

There does seem a huge amount of people on BW37  :undecided:

Same happened with BW33.

Its almost as if they are building them in batches every 4 weeks! :undecided: Do you reckon they do 3 weeks of LHD cars, then switch over and do 1 week of RHD?  Thats what it kind of looks like, but I can't believe its true.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 19 August 2013, 12:38
I ordered week 13 but obviously the order didn't go through till week 14 when the books opened and have just got 37 confirmed! :sick:

Yep, thats me +3.

Perhaps they'll build yours early BW37 as your order was first...  :undecided:

I'm hoping they do it in alphabetical order as my initials are AA  :whistle:

There does seem a huge amount of people on BW37  :undecided:

Same happened with BW33.

Its almost as if they are building them in batches every 4 weeks! :undecided: Do you reckon they do 3 weeks of LHD cars, then switch over and do 1 week of RHD?  Thats what it kind of looks like, but I can't believe its true.

I would hope not, but hey, nothing would surprise me with this bunch of muppets.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: physio on 19 August 2013, 13:06
I ordered build week 23   Confirmed car build week 37 
Then say 5 weeks delivery  that's  19 weeks  total
Are VW getting to grips with things or have I just been very lucky !!!!!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: harryhackenbacker on 20 August 2013, 11:51
Ordered 4/5 Build confirmed 37 as well ,Fully Loaded GTI ,no Leather though  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monsta on 20 August 2013, 12:51
Ordered 11th August (Week 32?)

Build week is 43, not confirmed yet :whistle:

Dealer tells me it has jumped forward 6 weeks so maybe things are coming together at Wolfsburg at last.  Mind you I didn't go for the camera  :grin:

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 20 August 2013, 12:52
Dealer tells me it has jumped forward 6 weeks so maybe things are coming together at Wolfsburg at last.

Good news.

Mind you I didn't go for the camera  :grin:

You can't anyway (No one can if they ordered after July).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 August 2013, 15:29
Just had a call from my VW salesman to tell me that my BW33 GTD hasn’t even been started yet.

He tried to call and missed me on Friday (I was out when he said he called) to tell me then it wasn’t started. He checked build status on Saturday, and again today.

According to him, the dealership tracker has 8 stages of build, from initial body cell assembly to final QC checks, and my car isn’t even at build stage 1 of 8 on his tracker as of 2pm today.

I told him that according to the customer tracker it is at stage 4 of 7 – build in progress, and that it changed to that sometime between Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning. My tracker and his tracker are telling 2 different stories.

He said the plant is running late due to the shutdown they just had, and the skeleton crew they had during that time (fine, I wasn’t expecting any production then, and no-one here was on a confirmed BW29/30/31, so I assume no production during the shutdown).

There are 1 of 2 things happening here:-
1.   The Dealer tracker is currently having a bit of a meltdown and status of my car is reading false/no data at all, stumping my salesman.

2.   The customer tracker is a pack of lies when things are behind and by default my tracked order changed to “build in progress” at the end of BW33 (Sat 17th Aug, 23:59) so as not to look like production was out of schedule/delayed for my order.

On the phone to VW UK, having trouble finding the order initially – They even said “sorry for the inconvenience!” (that’s a first). Taking a long time to check up on it *cheesy acoustic guitar music plays on the phone – feels like I’m stuck in a posh Spanish hotel foyer*.
I’m apparently one of the lucky ones – some other GTDs will have greater knock-on delays according to the rep. VW are given a week’s grace beyond the official build week confirmed before they are considered late. VW UK rep confirms my car hasn’t been started. He asks if it is my first VW, I tell him it will be my 7th and maybe my last.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 20 August 2013, 15:33
2.   The customer tracker is a pack of lies when things are behind and by default my tracked order changed to “build in progress” at the end of BW33 (Sat 17th Aug, 23:59) so as not to look like production was out of schedule/delayed for my order.

Could be the car has entered some initial phase (perhaps as trivial as being assigned a slot in some computer) and thus that has triggered the "in build" on the customer tracker, but that it hasn't actually started.

Effectively this amounts to the same thing... it appears to us that the tracker is lying as in practical terms the build is not in progress.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 20 August 2013, 15:38
Did they mention anything about what these issues are re. new GTD delays?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: p3asa on 20 August 2013, 15:51
Didn't someone's arrive at the dealership and the dealer knew nothing about it? Even their tracker said it hadn't been built yet!!
Not really sure how a whole car can slip through the net considering it must be scanned at every stage / process.

No wonder there are so many misbuilds!

Maybe like package holidays you can pay a fixed amount and its just pot luck what extras are on the car supplied to you. Would certainly be good for those that usually take no extras.  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sleg on 20 August 2013, 16:14
Ordered mine on 6/7/13 week 32

My salesman has just emailed me to say I have an expected build date of 29th October week 44.

How long is the norm from build week to delivery?? (I have read the previous posts but can't get a definate answer)

Sleg
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lagerlout on 20 August 2013, 16:41
I've been told my week 37 should be here end of September. We'll see.   :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 20 August 2013, 16:49
Ordered mine on 6/7/13 week 32

My salesman has just emailed me to say I have an expected build date of 29th October week 44.

How long is the norm from build week to delivery?? (I have read the previous posts but can't get a definate answer)

Sleg

I was told delivery is 4-6 weeks (though some here were told 4?), and that apparently includes the BW.  So if you are BW44 then expect delivery week 47-49.  If so you're getting a car on a 16 week lead time!  Thats insanely fast, how did you achieve this?  20-24 weeks is what I would expect to see.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 20 August 2013, 16:52
Well, it gets closer...my car was in transit this morning, and shows as in the UK now :)  It says it'll take around 7 days to get to the dealer, which is fine by me as between that and the preparation, it means they shouldn't have to hold onto it for very long to register in on 2nd September or after.

Edit: I was build week 32, so on the assumption that I collect it 1st week of September, that makes it a delivery time of 5 weeks including the build week, so bang in the middle of the 4 - 6 week advised estimate.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sleg on 20 August 2013, 16:53
Ordered mine on 6/7/13 week 32

My salesman has just emailed me to say I have an expected build date of 29th October week 44.

How long is the norm from build week to delivery?? (I have read the previous posts but can't get a definate answer)

Sleg

I was told delivery is 4-6 weeks (though some here were told 4?), and that apparently includes the BW.  So if you are BW44 then expect delivery week 47-49.  If so you're getting a car on a 16 week lead time!  Thats insanely fast, how did you achieve this?  20-24 weeks is what I would expect to see.

I don't know how but it could be my good looks  :cool:

Sleg
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 20 August 2013, 18:07
That's sh!tty news MH. Have you spoken to the VWEO? I got a better idea of status that way. Although I was told my car was built and awaiting shipment it still says in build on the tracker, and going by what you've been told I think it's more likely it hasn't been even started yet as I was BW33 as well.

I am still shocked about how p!ss poor this process is.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 20 August 2013, 18:10
Just had a call from my VW salesman to tell me that my BW33 GTD hasn’t even been started yet.

He tried to call and missed me on Friday (I was out when he said he called) to tell me then it wasn’t started. He checked build status on Saturday, and again today.

Didnt want to put full quote. But suspect all us in 33 that werent built might be in the same boat then. Early sunday morning was a weird time for it to move to build in progress. Suspect its like you say and the customer tracker just bugged and assumes that due to no update and it now being the following week that we must be in progress. As surely vw would never be slow...

Time will tell i guess, joy.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 August 2013, 18:11
Did they mention anything about what these issues are re. new GTD delays?

The implication was shutdown caused backlog rather than the dreaded BW51 issues we've heard of. It seemed like he knew more than he was letting on and the shutdown yarn was his most believable story - didn't feel like he beleived it himself the way he told it, just an impression I got.

If they are 2 weeks behind and don't plan getting any further behind then someone on a later "confirmed BW with a GTD would be no worse off than me (also being 2 weeks late). I did ask why the shutdown caused delays, seeing as the shutdown was planned and they officially didn't have cars scheduled in during the shutdown (no-one from here with a GTI/GTD order for confirmed BW29/30/31 anyway). He didn't have an answer. He suggested I ring same time next week and it should be built (he thought it would start this weekend at the latest).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 20 August 2013, 18:18
Didnt want to put full quote. But suspect all us in 33 that werent built might be in the same boat then. Early sunday morning was a weird time for it to move to build in progress. Suspect its like you say and the customer tracker just bugged and assumes that due to no update and it now being the following week that we must be in progress. As surely vw would never be slow...

Time will tell i guess, joy.

This actually makes perfect sense. The tracker just updates as a matter of course regardless. So basically none of our cars have been built. This also makes sense given the delays with the previous week.  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 20 August 2013, 18:24
I find it hard to believe the system works like that.  Software wise alone this is a bad way to set something up.  You never want to have things making assumptions or automatically changing after a time delay because an operation is supposedly complete.

I think it much much more likely that the system waits for a flag to trigger the move to the next stage.  That flag would probably be based on the car reaching a certain point in the production management software they are running in the factory.

Setting it up to change on a time delay would be both against the convention and highly stupid, there is no advantage to doing it like that its actually more work for whoever wrote the code.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 August 2013, 18:27
I find it hard to believe the system works like that.  Software wise alone this is a bad way to set something up.  You never want to have things making assumptions or automatically changing after a time delay because an operation is supposedly complete.

I think it much much more likely that the system waits for a flag to trigger the move to the next stage.  That flag would probably be based on the car reaching a certain point in the production management software they are running in the factory.

Setting it up to change on a time delay would be both against the convention and highly stupid, there is no advantage to doing it like that its actually more work for whoever wrote the code.

On the old version tracker, my dad's car was "in transit" within 4 days of being informed by VW UK that it was in the paint shop. Seems the old tracker was quite accurate with the more limited info it had.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 August 2013, 18:29
Didnt want to put full quote. But suspect all us in 33 that werent built might be in the same boat then. Early sunday morning was a weird time for it to move to build in progress. Suspect its like you say and the customer tracker just bugged and assumes that due to no update and it now being the following week that we must be in progress. As surely vw would never be slow...

Time will tell i guess, joy.

This actually makes perfect sense. The tracker just updates as a matter of course regardless. So basically none of our cars have been built. This also makes sense given the delays with the previous week.  :angry:

Has anyone actually told you (dealer or VW UK) your car has been built or is being painted/built checked etc? I would hope that if they have, it has actually been built - why lie to you and not to me?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 20 August 2013, 18:34
Whatever production management software the factory uses will be accurate all the time, necessarily.  I suspect inaccuracies occur on the web tracker because of a deliberate disconnect.  I.e. VW don't want it updating all the time for various reasons.  The result would be that sometimes the tracker lags behind the true status, but never that it changes early.

That said freak events like hailstorms could obviously lead to a car moving back in the process at which point the tracker might state the car is at a transit stage when actually it's back at the factory for example.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 20 August 2013, 18:35
MH - the VWEO told me yesterday that it was built and awaiting shipment. But it's not the first time I've been bullsh1tted by them so I'm going to take it with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 20 August 2013, 19:48
Didnt want to put full quote. But suspect all us in 33 that werent built might be in the same boat then. Early sunday morning was a weird time for it to move to build in progress. Suspect its like you say and the customer tracker just bugged and assumes that due to no update and it now being the following week that we must be in progress. As surely vw would never be slow...

Time will tell i guess, joy.

This actually makes perfect sense. The tracker just updates as a matter of course regardless. So basically none of our cars have been built. This also makes sense given the delays with the previous week.  :angry:

I could be wrong, but yes I suspect that is the case.

Being a software dev myself I know how these kind of problems can arise from issues in the code. Don't forget this tracker is new and it didn't seem to hit their "pre-live" environment first which I would've expected, so possibly hasn't been tested thoroughly enough. Although in fairness no amount of testing will find every single bug.

So upon hearing about your confirmation of yours not being in build (from the view of a dealer on their dealer tracker, which I suspect hasn't been updated as recently as the customer tracker, so its probably more reliable / accurate) and the odd time it moved over, I suspect the change in status is a bug and the cars haven't yet started build. As the "Build in Progress" is one of the new stages, so it just reeks of a coding bug to me.

I haven't contacted VW myself or my dealer, I've just been following this new tracker. I am getting tempted after hearing your update to just e-mail my dealer and ask if they can check. But whether it is or isn't in build theres nothing they can do, so might as well just sit and go along for the ride. Plus it would just involve me sitting pressing refresh on my e-mail page instead of the tracker, so don't really see the point lol  :sad:

I set my part ex in stone back in May when I ordered mine luckily for me. I imagine its just delays from the repairs to those cars damaged to by the hail storm / possible delays due to their shutdown.

Be interesting to see when ours do officially begin build though and likewise if this coming Sunday all week 34'ers mysteriously move to "build in progress" after the clock ticks past midnight / 1am.

I won't relax until the car is in my hands, at this point I just expect delay upon delay, but providing when we finally get them, as long as there is nothing wrong with them, I think that's the best anyone can hope for. It being 100% is an obvious must of course, but I'd hate for it to require a part and that part got to come from germany. I have visions now of a "Part - Order Tracker" .... and it constantly sitting at "Processing your order" lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 20 August 2013, 19:53
Also depending on when 33 does move into build in progress officially I guess anyone beyond that week can expect the similar kind of delay. VW already stating in another thread somewhere that they will not be speeding up the process at the price of their quality processes. So if week 33's aren't built until mid week 34 / even 35, I guess people with subsequent weeks can expect a week 34 to become a week 35,36 etc.

Might need to do a futurama / south park and freeze ourselves and ask to be unfrozen when the car is built and hope that isn't the year 3000  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 August 2013, 21:11
MH - the VWEO told me yesterday that it was built and awaiting shipment. But it's not the first time I've been bullsh1tted by them so I'm going to take it with a pinch of salt.

Is VWEO different from the VW UK place i've been pestering? Different set of contacts? There is the strong possibility that yours is built and mine is not - if the delays are more for GTD than GTI.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 20 August 2013, 21:25
MH - the VWEO told me yesterday that it was built and awaiting shipment. But it's not the first time I've been bullsh1tted by them so I'm going to take it with a pinch of salt.

Is VWEO different from the VW UK place i've been pestering? Different set of contacts? There is the strong possibility that yours is built and mine is not - if the delays are more for GTD than GTI.

Yes, the VW Exec Office is where the complaints are taken care of, the next step up from the VW UK call centre as it were. They should give you more specific and up to date information. But that's not always been the case  :rolleyes: Saying that, the chap I've dealt with has been very helpful.

You say that but so far apart from the delays on unconfirmed GTD's there appears to be no difference between the GTI & the GTD so I won't believe it's been built till its on a boat. Which should have happened over a day ago.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 August 2013, 22:46
MH - I haven't had any calls from Mick about mine and mines confirmed got week 36. either he's waiting to see what happens or he's s4it scared for an ear bashing haha
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 August 2013, 22:49
MH - I haven't had any calls from Mick about mine and mines confirmed got week 36. either he's waiting to see what happens or he's s4it scared for an ear bashing haha

Build week confirmed and even build in progress seems to mean feck-all right now
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 August 2013, 22:51
true but when I spoke to Mick on Sunday I said I don't want to be making another payment after august no matter what as the car is due end of September. gave him every opportunity to say something to me then about delays and got nothing.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 21 August 2013, 08:00
true but when I spoke to Mick on Sunday I said I don't want to be making another payment after august no matter what as the car is due end of September. gave him every opportunity to say something to me then about delays and got nothing.

Looks like i'll be making my Sept 6th payment on the Scirocco - another £70 in interest wasted.

I really need to write a letter of complaint in the offchance of getting some goodwill (anyone know the place to get the head honcho? I'm sure someone here posted a well written letter to them, but I can't find it). The VW UK rep denied my order was ever likely to be less than BW33, in any stage of order placed - despite me sayingthat I was anticipated to be BW25/26 before the whole cock-up with my dad's order saw it leapfrogging mine (and yours) in the allocation queue.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 21 August 2013, 10:47
With the tracker down, thought I'd give VW UK a quick call.  Wish I hadn't to be honest.  Low and behold VWEO were lying *SHOCKER* and the car is, like you MH, still awaiting build but should be started this week - and not finished build awaiting shipment as VWEO tried to palm me off with. The chap in the call centre was trying to convince me that BW33 means last week and this week - no, if it hasn't been built last week then its BW34 you f7cking idiot.

Looking at end of Sep delivery earliest for sure.  Plus it shows the tracker isn't worth the website its showing on as its not currently in build is it you lying (unts.  It appears the delays are not just limited to GTD's eg MH.

Pathetic.  Really sick of this bullsh!t.  Sorry for the rant  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 21 August 2013, 11:05
Yeah my BW32 was actually built BW33...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 21 August 2013, 11:22
Dare I ask... can it get any worse? :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 21 August 2013, 11:24
Dare I ask... can it get any worse? :angry:

I'd like to say no, but we all know that I'd be lying  :laugh:

As a positive, through all of this my dealer has been excellent.  Shame the rest of VW are letting the side down.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 21 August 2013, 11:26
Mine has done nothing... so I can't really say they've been excellent or sh!t.

To be honest I think they are along for the ride as well as me.  Its VW UK not getting the communication right and VW Germany having too many coffee breaks instead of building cars! :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 21 August 2013, 12:19
Dare I ask... can it get any worse? :angry:

I'd like to say no, but we all know that I'd be lying  :laugh:

Lying? The perfect credentials for VW UK staff – fancy a new job?

Unless they have some spare capacity for catching up, i'd expect all the forseeable BW34/35/36/37 etc to fall back 2 weeks also, unless things quieten down now the ordering/building rush for the new Sept plates is well done and dusted.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 21 August 2013, 12:21
Dare I ask... can it get any worse? :angry:

I'd like to say no, but we all know that I'd be lying  :laugh:

Lying? The perfect credentials for VW UK staff – fancy a new job?

Unless they have some spare capacity for catching up, i'd expect all the forseeable BW34/35/36/37 etc to fall back 2 weeks also, unless things quieten down now the ordering/building rush for the new Sept plates is well done and dusted.

I agree.  At least a 2 week delay on top of the outrageous delays we've all ready all suffered.  :angry:

 :grin: I'm not that good of a liar to work for VW UK!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 21 August 2013, 12:23
Dare I ask... can it get any worse? :angry:

I'd like to say no, but we all know that I'd be lying  :laugh:

Lying? The perfect credentials for VW UK staff – fancy a new job?

Unless they have some spare capacity for catching up, i'd expect all the forseeable BW34/35/36/37 etc to fall back 2 weeks also, unless things quieten down now the ordering/building rush for the new Sept plates is well done and dusted.

I'm expecting a VW exec call today or tomorrow.  I'm not waiting until tomorrow if they don't call soon I'm calling them.

I want to know exactly what is going on, their camera delays seem to be only semi-true since at least one dealer says they have a stock pile of cameras.  The current delays will they be affecting BW37 confirmed orders?  If not then what guarantee will they give on this?  Where is the discussion of compensation (or as they put it "help") for loss of p/x value and general inconvenience that they promised? etc etc etc
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 21 August 2013, 12:32

I'm expecting a VW exec call today or tomorrow.  I'm not waiting until tomorrow if they don't call soon I'm calling them.

I want to know exactly what is going on, their camera delays seem to be only semi-true since at least one dealer says they have a stock pile of cameras.  The current delays will they be affecting BW37 confirmed orders?  If not then what guarantee will they give on this?  Where is the discussion of compensation (or as they put it "help") for loss of p/x value and general inconvenience that they promised? etc etc etc

Be interested to hear what they have to say for you, like MH said, unless they've got extra capacity somewhere, the current delays in building Week 33 cars is likely to have a knock on affect for anyone after it by the same delay margin, so your 37 then becomes a 38 or possibly 39 at the way things seem to be going.

I think the minimum they should be giving you is your px back dated to when you ordered as a good will gesture, minimum though as I say, if you can swing more then get more  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 21 August 2013, 12:37
I think the minimum they should be giving you is your px back dated to when you ordered as a good will gesture, minimum though as I say, if you can swing more then get more  :smiley:

I'll report back here.

On the p/x I agree with you.  I actually want them to give it as an additional discount so I can drive my own car and then dispose of it as I like.  However they implied that "if" they "help" with this they would want to take the car now (and I bet that won't include honouring the original p/x from April) and then they will see "if" they can "keep me moving".

Now, if this was coming from a company I saw as being concerned about its customers and looking after them I mgith think differently but frankly from VW that sounds like a load of bull where they might take my car for less than I think its worth and leave me high and dry, or possibly stuck in an UP for who knows how long... no deal.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 21 August 2013, 12:46
Can't you have a word with your dealer Bear and get them to tell you whether or not your part ex value will be honoured?  After all, its their (VW) fault that you haven't got your car yet so why should you lose out?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 21 August 2013, 12:53
Can't you have a word with your dealer Bear and get them to tell you whether or not your part ex value will be honoured?  After all, its their (VW) fault that you haven't got your car yet so why should you lose out?

I could but I don't have much faith in my dealer.  They seem to say only one of two things when I talk to them:

1. "We know nothing, we'll call you when we do" and they never call.  Didn't even do so when I finally went BW confirmed until literally 5mins after I sent an email to VW exec demanding an update! :rolleyes:

2. "As far as we know there are no issues, you can still expect July/August delivery"

Maybe I could convince them to take my car and give me a courtesy car, but I don't want that really as explained above.  Also it seems that they have to claim compensation from VWUK and I have no faith in their ability to do this so I'd just be waiting indefinitely on them agreeing something with VWUK.  The answer will probably arrive in a month: "computer says no".  So I'd rather just go to VWUK myself and badger them for compensation myself rather than them compensating the dealer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 21 August 2013, 12:58
I double checked that my dealer was standing by my trade in quote yesterday and received this back via email:

Quote
Yes, we will stand on the trade in value, as it is out of your (and our) control, that the car has been delayed.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 21 August 2013, 12:59
Seems a bit of a pickle Bear.  I'd still ask them though.  I did LOL at the 'it'll be with you July/August' BS - clearly this lot are jokers.

It's still worth a call though I think, and also trying to get a courtesy car.  Got to be better than your current car anyways  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 21 August 2013, 13:09
I did LOL at the 'it'll be with you July/August' BS

Its the "far as we know" bit that gets me.  They always say this kind of thing and I just get the impression that they aren't even checking so yeah, if they don't know anything then as far as they know there is no change!  With "Kim" and "Claire" and also "Lucie" who I have dealt with everything is very certain until I ask questions or point out inconsistencies and then it starts to become vague.  Same thing with "Lisa" at VW exec actually. :angry:

It's still worth a call though I think, and also trying to get a courtesy car.  Got to be better than your current car anyways  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:

Hey I like me car! :grin: :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 21 August 2013, 13:14
Dare I ask... can it get any worse? :angry:

I'd like to say no, but we all know that I'd be lying  :laugh:

Lying? The perfect credentials for VW UK staff – fancy a new job?

Unless they have some spare capacity for catching up, i'd expect all the forseeable BW34/35/36/37 etc to fall back 2 weeks also, unless things quieten down now the ordering/building rush for the new Sept plates is well done and dusted.

I'm expecting a VW exec call today or tomorrow.  I'm not waiting until tomorrow if they don't call soon I'm calling them.

I want to know exactly what is going on, their camera delays seem to be only semi-true since at least one dealer says they have a stock pile of cameras.  The current delays will they be affecting BW37 confirmed orders?  If not then what guarantee will they give on this?  Where is the discussion of compensation (or as they put it "help") for loss of p/x value and general inconvenience that they promised? etc etc etc

Car demand is pretty constant year round – different countries in the EU stagger their “new plate” months – it’s not like everyone that Wolfburg produces for  is clamouring for a new Golf to be delivered in March or September. Really can’t see where they’re going to make that time back if they already work 24/7 CSP shifts. I’d expect everyone for the foreseeable to be experiencing 2 week knock-on effect (that’s if my car actually gets started this weekend as they implied but didn’t commit to).

I can feel the M135 discussions about to start up again.....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 21 August 2013, 13:16
I can feel the M135 discussions about to start up again.....

They already have!  But I've confined them to babybmw.net so as to avoid offending anyone over here who rightly thinks the M135i should only come up where it is discussed in relation to a GTI (or now an R).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 21 August 2013, 13:17
I can feel the M135 discussions about to start up again.....

They already have!  But I've confined them to babybmw.net so as to avoid offending anyone over here who rightly thinks the M135i should only come up where it is discussed in relation to a GTI (or now an R).

If you'd committed to one the other week it'd probably be being built about now.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 August 2013, 10:23
I'm literally at breaking point.

Spoke to the helpful people at VWEO - they tell me my car STILL hasn't been built even though it should have been last Monday.  He said he's hopeful it will be built BW35 but can't confirm this.

Cited the delays in the number of orders (I ordered 8th April so they're after me!), the increase in production to the UK for September plates (not my problem) and the factory shutdown (that's planned, what's the issue??)

All in all I'm seriously f7cked off as its looking like Oct at the earliest.

I would imagine that this will have a knock on effect for those looking at BW35 onwards.

Wish I'd got a BMW.....  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 22 August 2013, 10:36
Jeez, that sucks matchboy :(  It's incredible the level of incompetence they are demonstrating.  As you say, you ordered well before a lot of people, the shutdown is planned, and September comes around the same time every year. 

On balance I guess my experience hasn't been all that bad really, given it will "only" have been 20 weeks instead of the 16 I was told to expect, and in all fairness I only ever had one estimated build week of 38 that came down to 32, stayed there, and all seems to have gone to plan after that.  It hasn't been helped by orders that were placed after mine and are now driving around, or the fact that others ordered before me and are still getting fed all kinds of bollox :(
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 August 2013, 10:42
Jeez, that sucks matchboy :(  It's incredible the level of incompetence they are demonstrating.  As you say, you ordered well before a lot of people, the shutdown is planned, and September comes around the same time every year. 

On balance I guess my experience hasn't been all that bad really, given it will "only" have been 20 weeks instead of the 16 I was told to expect, and in all fairness I only ever had one estimated build week of 38 that came down to 32, stayed there, and all seems to have gone to plan after that.  It hasn't been helped by orders that were placed after mine and are now driving around, or the fact that others ordered before me and are still getting fed all kinds of bollox :(

Yeah you are one of the lucky ones!

I'm trying to look at the positives, however the only one I can draw on is that if mine had been built BW28 as planned it would have been hit by those hailstones!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 22 August 2013, 11:11
Yeah you are one of the lucky ones!

I'm trying to look at the positives, however the only one I can draw on is that if mine had been built BW28 as planned it would have been hit by those hailstones!  :laugh:

I know, that had crossed my mind too had it been any earlier! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 August 2013, 11:15
Anyone have the name and email address of VW UK main boss? I know I read it here somewhere in the past, but cannot find it.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 22 August 2013, 11:27
Anyone have the name and email address of VW UK main boss? I know I read it here somewhere in the past, but cannot find it.
Here's his email:-

martin.winterkorn@volkswagen.de
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 August 2013, 11:35
Anyone have the name and email address of VW UK main boss? I know I read it here somewhere in the past, but cannot find it.
Here's his email:-

martin.winterkorn@volkswagen.de

That’s Mr VW Germany. I think I found VW UK CEO by googling him, Simon Thomas: simon.thomas@volkswagen.co.uk

Thought I’d pester the UK arm first, although they may just be held to ransom by VW Germany and may not be culpable themselves for this shambles.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Ricepop on 22 August 2013, 15:45
Jeez, that sucks matchboy :(  It's incredible the level of incompetence they are demonstrating.  As you say, you ordered well before a lot of people, the shutdown is planned, and September comes around the same time every year. 

On balance I guess my experience hasn't been all that bad really, given it will "only" have been 20 weeks instead of the 16 I was told to expect, and in all fairness I only ever had one estimated build week of 38 that came down to 32, stayed there, and all seems to have gone to plan after that.  It hasn't been helped by orders that were placed after mine and are now driving around, or the fact that others ordered before me and are still getting fed all kinds of bollox :(

Yeah you are one of the lucky ones!

I'm trying to look at the positives, however the only one I can draw on is that if mine had been built BW28 as planned it would have been hit by those hailstones!  :laugh:

From my point you are one of the lucky ones, I ordered on the 15th April and now have an unconfirmed build week of 51. We all seem to be getting screwed, my first new car purchase isn't turning out to be much fun.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 August 2013, 15:47
Bl0ody hell, you have been screwed over haven't you.  Maybe I should stop complaining after reading that!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Ricepop on 22 August 2013, 15:53
I think that they are trying to drop a couple of orders by pushing them back. I was told unconfirmed BW38 then got pushed right to the back of the queue, I'm on holiday at the moment  trying to relax but next week I will be giving VW both barrels
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 August 2013, 15:58
I think that they are trying to drop a couple of orders by pushing them back. I was told unconfirmed BW38 then got pushed right to the back of the queue, I'm on holiday at the moment  trying to relax but next week I will be giving VW both barrels

I don't blame you.  A week delay is one thing, but moving from BW38 to BW51 is one of the biggest p!sstakes I've heard in a long time.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Ricepop on 22 August 2013, 16:05
I think that they are trying to drop a couple of orders by pushing them back. I was told unconfirmed BW38 then got pushed right to the back of the queue, I'm on holiday at the moment  trying to relax but next week I will be giving VW both barrels

I don't blame you.  A week delay is one thing, but moving from BW38 to BW51 is one of the biggest p!sstakes I've heard in a long time.

I agree, I have ordered a GTD, I'm thinking of switching to a GTI to see if it will arrive any quicker, it certainly can't be longer, BW 51 means I wont get the car until around late January.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 22 August 2013, 16:22
I agree, I have ordered a GTD, I'm thinking of switching to a GTI to see if it will arrive any quicker, it certainly can't be longer, BW 51 means I wont get the car until around late January.

Go on, switch anyway  :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: peterdoherty on 22 August 2013, 16:28
My GTD has had an unconfirmed BW of 38 since I last checked over a month ago - dealer has never given me a BW (unconfirmed) even though I've asked a couple of time - had to call VW.

If I don't get an update on the tracker over the weekend I'll have to give them a call on Monday to see if its a wk51 now (38's should in theory change this weekend if my maths is right and not taking into consideration the latest balls up with the wk32/33'ers)

I'm thinking I'll be back to wk51 - if so I'm fuming.

Would also change to a GTI if it meant I would get it sooner.

Ordered mid-May so not as bad as others!

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Ricepop on 22 August 2013, 16:42
My GTD has had an unconfirmed BW of 38 since I last checked over a month ago - dealer has never given me a BW (unconfirmed) even though I've asked a couple of time - had to call VW.

If I don't get an update on the tracker over the weekend I'll have to give them a call on Monday to see if its a wk51 now (38's should in theory change this weekend if my maths is right and not taking into consideration the latest balls up with the wk32/33'ers)

I'm thinking I'll be back to wk51 - if so I'm fuming.

Would also change to a GTI if it meant I would get it sooner.

Ordered mid-May so not as bad as others!

I will be interested to hear what happens, the ordering system seems to be ridiculous, I know people who ordered their car after me but have it already whereas I still have to wait another 5 months
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 August 2013, 17:23
the factory shutdown (that's planned, what's the issue??)

Exactly.  This has been their go to excuse in the last 2 conversations I've had.  "Factory shutdown caused delays".  How exactly is this possible when it was a scheduled shutdown?  Did you plan to build stuff while the plant was inoperative?  Its a lie, or it shows how little VWCS know about ... well anything.  Or they're just citing any excuse they can think of.

Wish I'd got a BMW.....  :angry:

I've had it and I'm cancelling.  Just need to decide which BMW deal to take and then call VW to get my deposit returned.  BMW say they can modify an existing M135i order and hope to have my in the car by end of September (as it will improve quarterly figures) but even if that plan fails I'll drive away by mid October.  VW are talking mid October as what I see as their best highly optimistic guess! (and that is after already more than 4 months of waiting as you all know).

The GTI dream is over but I don't think I'll regret it in the least! :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 August 2013, 17:31
Mate! I don't blame you... I would have jumped ship weeks ago. Take the BMW deal, this VW fiasco is not worth losing sleep over.

Like I've said in previous threads the BMW was my first choice, but it was only when I was screwed over by the dealer I switched to the Golf instead. Both are equally good and I would be equally happy owning either.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 August 2013, 17:38
I don't blame you either Bear. I know a lot don't like its looks but I think the M135i looks the nuts. And if its the same price and you can get it earlier then I agree with your decision. They keep telling you BW37 but its clear that the factory is running at least 2 weeks late and therefore you're looking at BW39 if you're lucky.

VW have screwed this up royally.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 22 August 2013, 17:58
This is a pretty impressive screw up by VW. Think the constant BS is making it worse tbh, why not just be honest?

Is it possible that if they admitted to it, they'd be liable to compensate everybody for missed build weeks etc?

I don't buy the whole, shutdown is affecting things like it was unplanned. Why is it the team that do the order confirming did the whole confirming some people like me 7 weeks before my "Build week 33" to compensate for the 3 week shut down.

Good luck getting your car bear. God knows when those who are planning to stick it out will get theirs, me included.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Thornster on 22 August 2013, 18:26
[I've had it and I'm cancelling.  Just need to decide which BMW deal to take and then call VW to get my deposit returned.  BMW say they can modify an existing M135i order and hope to have my in the car by end of September (as it will improve quarterly figures) but even if that plan fails I'll drive away by mid October.  VW are talking mid October as what I see as their best highly optimistic guess! (and that is after already more than 4 months of waiting as you all know).

The GTI dream is over but I don't think I'll regret it in the least! :angry:

Bill

I like many have followed your journey for months.

I think I actually feel a bit sad. :cry:

If you do cancel and go for the M135i I'm sure you'll love it, and If I'd been treated in the same way I'd be cancelling and doing exactly the same (well maybe for an S3 :wink:).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 22 August 2013, 18:38
That's a real shame if you have to cancel :(

What about those 61 (I think it was?) GTI's that people said dealers had in stock? any of those suit your spec?

:(
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 22 August 2013, 20:34
My GTD has had an unconfirmed BW of 38 since I last checked over a month ago - dealer has never given me a BW (unconfirmed) even though I've asked a couple of time - had to call VW.

If I don't get an update on the tracker over the weekend I'll have to give them a call on Monday to see if its a wk51 now (38's should in theory change this weekend if my maths is right and not taking into consideration the latest balls up with the wk32/33'ers)

I'm thinking I'll be back to wk51 - if so I'm fuming.

Would also change to a GTI if it meant I would get it sooner.

Ordered mid-May so not as bad as others!

I'm in the same boat - ordered beginning of May (2013),  been on a constant unconfirmed BW38.  With all the talk of BW51 last week I contacted my dealer for an update.  He on hols but his stand in told me there is no date down at all for it anymore.  Hoping to find out more when he's back next week.

Would be awesome if it went confirmed tomorrow but looking highly unlikely  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hobojim on 22 August 2013, 21:43
Just been knocked back from BW35 to BW38.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 22 August 2013, 22:39
Just been knocked back from BW35 to BW38.

So were you confirmed at 35 jim and they moved the confirmed week to 38 now?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hobojim on 22 August 2013, 23:43
Sorry, estimated 35, when it was over due to be confirmed I phoned up and they said it was BW 38 unconfirmed.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 22 August 2013, 23:56
 Sorry I understand now.
Hopefully you get some good confirmed news tomorrow with any luck!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 23 August 2013, 11:22
My dealer just called.  Said he's been given the same BS line about the factory shutdown causing delays.  He agreed that that is BS as the shutdown happens every year and is planned!  He sounded pretty f7cked off to be honest as they are making his job as a retailer a nightmare.

Another day and yet another delay from VW  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 23 August 2013, 11:36
My dealer just called.  Said he's been given the same BS line about the factory shutdown causing delays.  He agreed that that is BS as the shutdown happens every year and is planned!  He sounded pretty f7cked off to be honest as they are making his job as a retailer a nightmare.

Another day and yet another delay from VW  :rolleyes:

The fact they are saying this as their current excuse when everyone knows its rubbish leads me to the following conclusion:

VWUK do not know what the problem is and their strategy from the very beginning has been "fob the customers off with excuses, the cars will come soon and all this will go away."  The problem with this plan is it only works if the cars do indeed come soon.  They have not.

So they are now left with having to continue to BS us with excuses as per this plan even though they know now that no one believes any of it, or admit that they don't really know what is going on, and if they admit that we'll be doubly pissed because it proves they've essentially been lying (or at least misleading) us from the start in the hope that the problem will be resolved soon.

I mean, this happens all the time.  I've worked in places where you regularly have to (or rather choose to) give a customer (a business) some excuse line just to secure enough time to correct a mistake you don't want to admit happened, so its nothing new or special about VW.  However, by choosing to do it this way they've run the risk and it has backfired on them.  You should only ever go down the BS excuse route if you are damn certain you can fix the problem before people lose patience and if you accept the damage caused will be less than the damage caused if you admit to whatever dumb mistake you made in the first place.  Honestly I wouldn't do business like this but I've worked in places that do do it.

What they should have done is levelled with us from the very start.  "We're sorry, we underestimated lead times." OR "This is the exact problem we have." OR "We can't actually give estimates, it might be some time."  Just give us the TRUTH.

Now quite why VWUK know f**k all is a different question.  I suspect it is because VW Germany have some problems causing chaos and they don't give a damn about updating anyone like VWUK on progress to resolve.  Doubly so because as I alluded to earlier they have a superiority complex and think of the UK as some mangy dog that should be glad to receive the scraps... ergo VWUK is completely ignored and stonewalled (an effect they then pass on to us).

Water under the bridge now of course.  I will be laying out in detail all the mistakes VW have made in my letter to Mr Thomas however. :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 23 August 2013, 12:00
Look forward to reading that Bear!  Be quick though, as he is leaving apparently to go and work for VW in Europe somewhere!

I couldn't agree more.  Its a shambles.  My dealer just called me again, in terms of the GTI he said there is literally nothing he can do - I believe him to be fair.  So its a waiting game  :angry:

He did however confirm that on 6th Sep (20 weeks according to VW from my order date, is actually 22 weeks in reality) that I'll get a courtesy car.  But its from Europa Car so he guesses it will be an Astra or an Insignia - how embarrassing driving a piece of sh!t Vauxhall  :laugh:

At least it will save me a few quid and I'll appreciate my GTI even more when/if it ever turns up.....  :grin:

As an aside, one of my clients ordered a GTD in early July through the same dealer.  VW cannot give him an order number and its listed on their system as 'on the waiting list' - read into that what you will but I think if you want a GTD your best bet is buying a demo because you ain't getting one till March 2014 earliest if you order now.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 23 August 2013, 12:08
If my car hasn’t started build on Tuesday and they can’t tell me when it will (and that it will be getting built that week), I will be giving serious consideration to cancelling and going with the A3 option for the 14 plate or ignoring practicality and seeing how the new TT pans out (if it is available early 2014).

If I could get a £27500 A3 (184) specced to GTD for £25k and still get £14500 p/x for mine, I think I’d be gone. Might pop to the local Audi garage over the weekend and size them up on discounts and what my p/x is worth to them if I were to order.

I would be cutting off my nose to spite my face a little seeing as it is a certainty the GTD would be available before the A3, but my Scirocco still has 9 months warranty left, tyres that will last another year and the next service is paid for. That Scirocco shouldn’t cost me a bean beyond fuelling it and car payments into mid 2014.

Even though Audi are still VAG, I would hope they have a better attitude towards their UK customers than VW has. That really is the trouble – there is no other car I want outside VAG, they have some great products right now and they know it. For every person cancelling, there is someone else ready to step into their boots.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 23 August 2013, 12:28
I wouldn't be so sure of Audi being better than VW. I placed an order with them which was accepted for an A1 with the cylinder on demand engine and they changed the order so many times that I ended up having to cancel as the car they were offering was so far away from the original order it wasn't what I wanted.

I have also been promised a courtesy car after 20 weeks but don't know what at the moment
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cahoot on 23 August 2013, 12:50
I cancelled my order today. I'm not prepared to part with the best part of £30k when I'm not satisfied with the service, consistent delays, and complete lack of explanation/communication.

I still think the GTI is an amazing car, but as a matter of principle, I'm not buying one now. Someone more deserving can have my hard earned cash (probably a TT next spring).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 23 August 2013, 13:02
Another one bites the dust.  This is shocking!  What was your spec Cahoot?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 23 August 2013, 13:04
I hope everyone who is cancelling is calling VW exec for a 30 sec conversation just to say "I'm cancelling.  Reason: Your customer service was very poor." and then end the conversation.

I think they need a kick up the arse.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cahoot on 23 August 2013, 13:13
I hope everyone who is cancelling is calling VW exec for a 30 sec conversation just to say "I'm cancelling.  Reason: Your customer service was very poor." and then end the conversation.

I think they need a kick up the arse.
As complete coincidence, I had a call from VW customer services yesterday to ask me how my dealer had dealt with my queries. I was completely honest and said I felt they had mis-lead me, were poor in the fact they never once called me to tell me my car had been delayed, and tried to blag me by claiming delivery would be a week or so after build.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cahoot on 23 August 2013, 13:16
Another one bites the dust.  This is shocking!  What was your spec Cahoot?
I had a 3 door TR manual, with just two options, Dynaudio and keyless entry.

That was until 6 weeks ago when my dealer rang to say keyless entry was no longer available on 3 door cars so it had been taken off my order. I don't think I've seen anyone else mention that on this forum so not sure if I believe that or not!! Seemed odd.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 23 August 2013, 13:18
Another one bites the dust.  This is shocking!  What was your spec Cahoot?
I had a 3 door TR manual, with just two options, Dynaudio and keyless entry.

That was until 6 weeks ago when my dealer rang to say keyless entry was no longer available on 3 door cars so it had been taken off my order. I don't think I've seen anyone else mention that on this forum so not sure if I believe that or not!! Seemed odd.

Hmmm another TR being delayed.  Clearly they have run out of paint!

How ridiculous, it seems they are running out of all the parts - wtf is going on?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 23 August 2013, 13:46
Another one bites the dust.  This is shocking!  What was your spec Cahoot?
I had a 3 door TR manual, with just two options, Dynaudio and keyless entry.

That was until 6 weeks ago when my dealer rang to say keyless entry was no longer available on 3 door cars so it had been taken off my order. I don't think I've seen anyone else mention that on this forum so not sure if I believe that or not!! Seemed odd.

Hmmm another TR being delayed.  Clearly they have run out of paint!

How ridiculous, it seems they are running out of all the parts - wtf is going on?

VW is being Henry Ford: “you can have any colour you like, as long as it is black”. My dad’s black GTD came double quick, as did a few other black ones built in the same week.

Makes me wonder whether they’re trying to piss off those that don’t pay extra for White/Metallic paint.
I wonder whether with all the EU regulations in place to protect consumers whether it is illegal for VW to charge one EU country (us) for something everyone else gets free (pure white paint)? Not talking standard spec changes here or standard equipment in one country absorbed into their RRP, but something that is entirely optional in all markets yet is a free option in one and a paid option in another.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: phil_790 on 23 August 2013, 17:29
Hi guys,

I have been following all these issues about build weeks slipping etc and avoiding checking since mine went to build in progress last Sunday. Just heard that its in transit and will be about 3 weeks. I am guessing its sat at Emden waiting for the boat...starting to get excited again!

Sorry to hear about all of you who have been messed about.

Cheers,
Phil
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mac7 on 23 August 2013, 17:57
Not sure where to post this as 90% of forum discussion seems to be about waiting for a car to arrive and BMW's...

As I'm thingking of buying a Golf R I am of course interested in how long you are having to wait for your GTI/GTD's. When I bought my factory order Mk6 in 2010 it was about 16-18 weeks from placing the order that I picked it up. From memory all my new cars have had similar lead times (unless there has been one already in the system) right back to a Mk2 GTI bought in 1989 which took around 16 weeks.

So my question is, how many weeks have you guys actually had to wait so far and what is your expectation for a car to be built from scratch to your spec?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 23 August 2013, 18:17
Mk 6 GTI was just the same with long lead times for most.

Limited production and a new model means demand is far higher than supply, wait 12 months and things will be more normal.

I'm one of the lucky ones, I waited 14 weeks. It is a fantastic car, well worth waiting for.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 23 August 2013, 18:19
Give my dealer a call yesterday and they got back to me today.

They recon the tracker should update in a few days to show that my car has been built. They said they are aware of delays at the factory but it hadn't affected any of their vehicles so far.

My contact always been very helpful when I spoke to him and always seems pretty straight up when I ask him questions.

I believe him in what he's telling me, based on what I've read on here I'm not so sure the information he is being given is perhaps as truthful, but time will tell. But its possible he's getting told porkys.

Not going to go into relief mode, due to all the broken promises other people have received over and over again, but thought I'd just add this.

Time will tell!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 23 August 2013, 18:23
Not sure where to post this as 90% of forum discussion seems to be about waiting for a car to arrive and BMW's...

As I'm thingking of buying a Golf R I am of course interested in how long you are having to wait for your GTI/GTD's. When I bought my factory order Mk6 in 2010 it was about 16-18 weeks from placing the order that I picked it up. From memory all my new cars have had similar lead times (unless there has been one already in the system) right back to a Mk2 GTI bought in 1989 which took around 16 weeks.

So my question is, how many weeks have you guys actually had to wait so far and what is your expectation for a car to be built from scratch to your spec?

Aye, far too much BMW talk to be honest!  :grin:  I haven't got mine yet, but it's on the way to the dealer, so will have been about a 20 week wait.  I was originally told 16 weeks, so the slip for me isn't that bad.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hobojim on 23 August 2013, 18:36
Evening all,

My dealer has emailed me to tell me that my build week is now confirmed.

My Story is, ordered May31st from Drive the Deal. Delivering to West Yorkshire, dealer in London  :huh: 12.5% discount.

Estimated BW 35, Delayed to BW 38, confirmed BW 38 today. Tornado Red, PP & Basic Nav.

Delivery Mid October, I'm in the US for 5 weeks from 26th October...... DOH!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 23 August 2013, 18:37
Really tough conversation with Lisa from VW exec.  She unexpectedly just called me at 18:15.

Right off the bat when asked how I am I said not good, I want to cancel.  I guess she's having a bad day as I was quizzed pretty hard on "why am I doing that at this stage of the order?".  I explained about the delays and the lack of meaningful information.  I explained about things like the excuse of factory shutdown being insulting because a scheduled shutdown should not cause a delay.  I exp,aimed about the strange situation of earlier orders delayed while others progress.  I explained that same orders with BWs are still not going to be built.

She wanted me to wait until BW37 to see if mine would go through on BW37 or not.  Why would I waste another month and forfeit a deal with BMW just to find out if my order is delayed AGAIN.  She started raising her voice and seemed pretty pissed that I was "asking questions she can't answer".  I explained that I am not upset she can't answer I'm upset that we arrived in this situation in the first place.

She a,so said she is staying late to call people but that annoyed me.  I said she said she would call Wednesday and nothing happened.  She said shed call Thursday and nothing happened.  I called Thursday and was told I would be called back...nothing happened.

I ended by saying I'm only explaining all this to help VW.  They need to understand why they have upset a customer so they can try to avoid upsetting other customers.  I said is not her fault but someone needs to look at the procedures they have.  Finally I said personally I believe it is VW Germany's fault for not giving VWUK any info, but I know she can't confirm that.  Silence.

Finally she said she is sorry if I was misled when I ordered and all my complaints have been logged.  I said I've never actually made a complaint I've only ever called for information, they assumed I was complaining.  Furthermore I have no issues with the dealer and don't blame them for this.

Conversation ended.  Did she listen and understand?  I don't think so.  It was all excuses raised voice, talking over me and implying I was being unreasonable.  Perhaps she gets a rocket if a case she handles isn't resolved satisfactorily I don't know... I have low confidence that any lessons have been learnt here however.

Meanwhile BMW are guaranteeing a September delivery and a £6k discount.  (I did mention this but she says she can't comment on BMW.  Of course she can't... The point is they are helping while VW are messing).

-sigh-

I expect some of you are having equally annoying calls right now!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 23 August 2013, 18:47
Really tough conversation with Lisa from VW exec.  She unexpectedly just called me at 18:15.

Right off the bat when asked how I am I said not good, I want to cancel.  I guess she's having a bad day as I was quizzed pretty hard on "why am I doing that at this stage of the order?".  I explained about the delays and the lack of meaningful information.  I explained about things like the excuse of factory shutdown being insulting because a scheduled shutdown should not cause a delay.  I exp,aimed about the strange situation of earlier orders delayed while others progress.  I explained that same orders with BWs are still not going to be built.

She wanted me to wait until BW37 to see if mine would go through on BW37 or not.  Why would I waste another month and forfeit a deal with BMW just to find out if my order is delayed AGAIN.  She started raising her voice and seemed pretty pissed that I was "asking questions she can't answer".  I explained that I am not upset she can't answer I'm upset that we arrived in this situation in the first place.

She a,so said she is staying late to call people but that annoyed me.  I said she said she would call Wednesday and nothing happened.  She said shed call Thursday and nothing happened.  I called Thursday and was told I would be called back...nothing happened.

I ended by saying I'm only explaining all this to help VW.  They need to understand why they have upset a customer so they can try to avoid upsetting other customers.  I said is not her fault but someone needs to look at the procedures they have.  Finally I said personally I believe it is VW Germany's fault for not giving VWUK any info, but I know she can't confirm that.  Silence.

Finally she said she is sorry if I was misled when I ordered and all my complaints have been logged.  I said I've never actually made a complaint I've only ever called for information, they assumed I was complaining.  Furthermore I have no issues with the dealer and don't blame them for this.

Conversation ended.  Did she listen and understand?  I don't think so.  It was all excuses raised voice, talking over me and implying I was being unreasonable.  Perhaps she gets a rocket if a case she handles isn't resolved satisfactorily I don't know... I have low confidence that any lessons have been learnt here however.

Meanwhile BMW are guaranteeing a September delivery and a £6k discount.  (I did mention this but she says she can't comment on BMW.  Of course she can't... The point is they are helping while VW are messing).

-sigh-

I expect some of you are having equally annoying calls right now!

It basically boils down to arrogance IMO. They obviously feel we should be grateful that they even let us buy one of their products. Even without delays, I know of no other mainstream car builders that class 3 Months plus as a normal lead time. Most other companies are 6-8 weeks. My Mrs got a new Mini Cooper factory order in 2.5 weeks. My sister did a factory order for a Juke last week, they called later that afternoon to say it would be here for 1st September. Volkswagen have a very different way of doing things. Whenever I walk into a VW dealership to enquire they always jump into, "High Demand" or "Already used our allocation" or "Long lead times". It's a strange way of doing business, almost like they don't want to sell cars at all.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 23 August 2013, 18:54
Do you think they don't really want to sell cars, they want to do something more fulfilling, like being the guy who gets shot out of a canon at the circus?  The problem is that for society to function there is a certain ratio of car salesmen to canoning clowns below which we run into problems.

I'm sure I read a theory to this effect somewhere.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 23 August 2013, 18:55
Do you think they don't really want to sell cars, they want to do something more fulfilling, like being the guy who gets shot out of a canon at the circus?  The problem is that for society to function there is a certain ratio of car salesmen to canoning clowns below which we run into problems.

I'm sure I read a theory to this effect somewhere.

Sounds plausible to me.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JellyB on 23 August 2013, 19:16
I had a call from my dealer this afternoon. She couldn't understand why I sounded surprised. Anyway, there was a short update that she didn't have any further firm information yet.

Which was actually fine, as I hadn't expected anything until next month anyway, and my initial thought was that she was ringing to see how long I could keep hold of my current car for ;)

Anyhoo, out of interest I re-read my t&c of sale and it would appear that I cannot cancel until 42 days after the estimated delivery date (in Nov) so basically until January. And no mention of a substitute car or anything either.

Not that I want to cancel or anything, I am too far away to think about that. But I am concerned about the experience a lot of the people who ordered early are having with delays and broken promises of communication.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mac7 on 23 August 2013, 19:28
Thanks to those who've responded. So if I reckon on around 20 week/5 months lead time I shouldn't be disappointed.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 23 August 2013, 22:34
Bill: Previous experience with VW UK has been poor. They were supposed to mediate when Benfield royally f**ked up on a repair of my MK5 Golf (2 weeks old) after it got clattered by a bus. Picking your car up in the pitch black and rain is lashing down is not to be recommended. Theft/loss of items from the car, 7 weeks to do a 2 week job, metal shards in the car, oily handprints all over the headlining, an unsafe brake fault (they refused to pick the car up - made me drive it in that condition to get back for remedial work the next day). Obviously I contacted VW UK to make the strongest complaint, VW UK's response was to force them to offer a "free valet" at a time of my choosing in the future.

A free valet? What confidence would I have in those monkeys doing a good job of it after they left oily handprints on the headlining and metal shards all over my interior? They never pushed for replacement of the items that went missing for my car either.

The VW UK representative insisted that I HAD to accept the valet offer so that they could close out the case as customer satisfied with outcome. I said absolutely not, and that I neither want nor need their derisory offer of a free valet. The VW UK rep said they were going to close it out as me satisfied anyway. I reported her to VW Germany as well as conveying how disappointed I was how it was handled and asked what qualifications allowed Benfield to be an approved repairer as they were completely incompetent with not only my car, but about 6 others that I traded stories with who were also in for remedial work.

VW UK are a joke - they care only about the targets they are set, the customer definitely comes second to pursuit of those targets.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 23 August 2013, 22:44
Why have you stayed with VW MH?!  :grin:  that's a shocking story, wtf is wrong with VW?!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 23 August 2013, 22:53
Why have you stayed with VW MH?!  :grin:  that's a shocking story, wtf is wrong with VW?!

I like their cars, and I like the running costs (attributed to their high residuals). I like Audis just as much, but they're the sam ecompany with less equipment for the same or more money. I limit optional extras in principle (ppor value for money as they don't hold any real value), which kind of rules out Audi's version of the VW.

I always hope that I won't have any reason to contact VW UK in the future as they are sh!te.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 23 August 2013, 23:03
Yes it does seem like the cars are good, the dealers aren't bad... but somewhere between Germany and VWUK there is a distinct lack of understanding about customer service, or a lack of caring.

I think VWUK have some unbelievably awful procedures dictating how the handle dissatisfied customers.  There isn't much they could do worse if they tried in all honesty.  And I think VW Germany is providing diddly squat info to VWUK, another procedure that needs fixing.

Its not even like the above are hard to fix!  I bet if they'd handled it right we could have had the exact same delays occurring and yet we'd all be singing their praises for looking after us and it would require only a change of attitude and maybe... maybe a small additional expense.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 August 2013, 10:45
Hmm...Can I be arsed to see what the gen is at my local Audi dealership today? What are the odds of an A3 184 TDI well on it's way to being built for general unallocated stock? Might go just to see that S-line interior.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redgolfgtd on 25 August 2013, 16:48
Hmm...Can I be arsed to see what the gen is at my local Audi dealership today? What are the odds of an A3 184 TDI well on it's way to being built for general unallocated stock? Might go just to see that S-line interior.
...................... I wouldn't bother was having my works A3 serviced last week spoke to the salesgirl I know there as I've bought a few cars off them was telling her about the delays on Golfs she said even if I ordered today I wouldn't see an A3 in any guise until end of January at the very earliest and probably later
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 25 August 2013, 18:21
Just as I was thinking of cancelling my order, it has finally gone into build.  I guess it will be late September before I receive it, status only changed today, I think.  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: RikWebb on 25 August 2013, 18:38
Just as I was thinking of cancelling my order, it has finally gone into build.  I guess it will be late September before I receive it, status only changed today, I think.  :grin:

Good News mate :)

Hopefully mine will change soon  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 25 August 2013, 18:49
Just as I was thinking of cancelling my order, it has finally gone into build.  I guess it will be late September before I receive it, status only changed today, I think.  :grin:

Hopefully this is genuine mate and not the auto roll into build in progress that happens the sunday that dtarts the week after your build week....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 25 August 2013, 18:59
Oh, didn't realise that is what happens - guess it probably is then, because it is exactly a week after my build week.  :sick:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 August 2013, 16:05
Ok, so an update for those still waiting on their cars.  According to the VW Executive Office, the factory is running 2 weeks behind.  Yes, we'd all guessed this but this is as close to official confirmation as we (as customers) are going to get.  The delay is due to an 'oversight' by the factory whereby they overestimated the number of cars they were going to produce prior to the factory shutdown :rolleyes:, and as such they are working through a backlog.  I would imagine any of you who have BW33 to BW39 will be affected, but that's just me speculating.  He also told me that the factory have only officially let VW UK know about these delays today, so according to him VW UK have been in the dark over this issue until today.  :whistle:

In terms of my own car, I've been assured it went into build yesterday - so it will be built by the end of this week.  They are going to try and get my car onto the first available boat from Monday/Tuesday next week ie. prioritise the shipping.  Whether this happens or not I don't know, I'm just relieved the car is being built.  As an aside, this has also made my mind up to stick with the GTI instead of switching to the M135i - I've waited this long so I'm going to stick it out.

I think I'm going to stop with the negativity now and go back to being excited about getting my car - that's much more fun!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 27 August 2013, 16:12
Congrats on deciding Match.  Feels good to settle on one of the two don't it?

Poor old Terry is going to have to look for another buyer for his black M135i... :grin:  Aren't you getting a 120i or something for the wife, or am I misremembering?  Probably better for you to have a VW and a BMW rather than two similar cars!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: MkVIIGTD on 27 August 2013, 16:19
I wonder is this going to be an 'official' line now that will be rolled out to anyone who calls for an update now Matchboy? My BW 36 looks like it isn't going to actually going to be BW 36!!  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 August 2013, 16:22
Congrats on deciding Match.  Feels good to settle on one of the two don't it?

Poor old Terry is going to have to look for another buyer for his black M135i... :grin:  Aren't you getting a 120i or something for the wife, or am I misremembering?  Probably better for you to have a VW and a BMW rather than two similar cars!

 :grin: Yes, they are going to have to find someone else!  To be fair I never reserved it anyway, but its been sitting there for a good month or so, so defo a deal to be had for someone (I was offered 16.5% but wouldn't have taken less than 18%).

Yes, it feels good to decide.  Having had 7 GTI's between me and the wife, I am a massive fan so it would have been a shame to miss out on the mk 7.  Also, like you say, she can get the 1 series now (120d xdrive)  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 August 2013, 16:23
I wonder is this going to be an 'official' line now that will be rolled out to anyone who calls for an update now Matchboy? My BW 36 looks like it isn't going to actually going to be BW 36!!  :cry:

I would imagine so, yes.  Well I was BW33 & its getting built in BW35 - so you may be lucky or you may be looking at BW38  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 27 August 2013, 16:24
Ok, so an update for those still waiting on their cars.  According to the VW Executive Office, the factory is running 2 weeks behind.  Yes, we'd all guessed this but this is as close to official confirmation as we (as customers) are going to get.  The delay is due to an 'oversight' by the factory whereby they overestimated the number of cars they were going to produce prior to the factory shutdown :rolleyes:, and as such they are working through a backlog.  I would imagine any of you who have BW33 to BW39 will be affected, but that's just me speculating.  He also told me that the factory have only officially let VW UK know about these delays today, so according to him VW UK have been in the dark over this issue until today.  :whistle:

In terms of my own car, I've been assured it went into build yesterday - so it will be built by the end of this week.  They are going to try and get my car onto the first available boat from Monday/Tuesday next week ie. prioritise the shipping.  Whether this happens or not I don't know, I'm just relieved the car is being built.  As an aside, this has also made my mind up to stick with the GTI instead of switching to the M135i - I've waited this long so I'm going to stick it out.

I think I'm going to stop with the negativity now and go back to being excited about getting my car - that's much more fun!  :laugh:

Sounds very positive  :smiley:  hope mine will be in build this week to then  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 27 August 2013, 16:33
Its still crazy they can't get the information.  Last friday (6pm) Lisa from VW exec was asking me to continue to wait until BW37 to "see" if my car would get built on its confirmed BW or not.  She was "sure" it would, but the best evidence offered was that another unamed customer that was BW33 had entered built at the start of BW34.  Hardly reassuring.

So on the one hand it is a positive step that an actual (believable) reason has been provided for the delay, yet on the other hand in my personal case this just underscores my decision to cancel.  If what was my car is going to end up delayed from BW37 to BW39 then I will be taking delivery of the car I have now ordered before the GTI even starts build.  I'm simply amazed at the difference between the two factories in question.

I suppose that part of this might be due to VW being one of the big producers, while BMW is a small company which as a result is maybe more flexible... but really it doesn't ring true.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 27 August 2013, 16:34
Ok, so an update for those still waiting on their cars.  According to the VW Executive Office, the factory is running 2 weeks behind.  Yes, we'd all guessed this but this is as close to official confirmation as we (as customers) are going to get.  The delay is due to an 'oversight' by the factory whereby they overestimated the number of cars they were going to produce prior to the factory shutdown :rolleyes:, and as such they are working through a backlog.  I would imagine any of you who have BW33 to BW39 will be affected, but that's just me speculating.  He also told me that the factory have only officially let VW UK know about these delays today, so according to him VW UK have been in the dark over this issue until today.  :whistle:

In terms of my own car, I've been assured it went into build yesterday - so it will be built by the end of this week.  They are going to try and get my car onto the first available boat from Monday/Tuesday next week ie. prioritise the shipping.  Whether this happens or not I don't know, I'm just relieved the car is being built.  As an aside, this has also made my mind up to stick with the GTI instead of switching to the M135i - I've waited this long so I'm going to stick it out.

I think I'm going to stop with the negativity now and go back to being excited about getting my car - that's much more fun!  :laugh:

The problem with this is that other people with Build week 33 had their builds go through normally as planned, when yours didn't. I call bullsh!t from VW UK.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 27 August 2013, 16:40
Whether this happens or not I don't know, I'm just relieved the car is being built.  As an aside, this has also made my mind up to stick with the GTI instead of switching to the M135i - I've waited this long so I'm going to stick it out.

I think I'm going to stop with the negativity now and go back to being excited about getting my car - that's much more fun!  :laugh:

Great news mate, and it's so much more satisfying to know you have put up and waited it out. At the end of the day, you can choose to be negative about things, or be positive and look forward to it!  Every time I see a BMW 1 series on the road now, it makes me chuckle childishly! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 August 2013, 16:41
Ok, so an update for those still waiting on their cars.  According to the VW Executive Office, the factory is running 2 weeks behind.  Yes, we'd all guessed this but this is as close to official confirmation as we (as customers) are going to get.  The delay is due to an 'oversight' by the factory whereby they overestimated the number of cars they were going to produce prior to the factory shutdown :rolleyes:, and as such they are working through a backlog.  I would imagine any of you who have BW33 to BW39 will be affected, but that's just me speculating.  He also told me that the factory have only officially let VW UK know about these delays today, so according to him VW UK have been in the dark over this issue until today.  :whistle:

In terms of my own car, I've been assured it went into build yesterday - so it will be built by the end of this week.  They are going to try and get my car onto the first available boat from Monday/Tuesday next week ie. prioritise the shipping.  Whether this happens or not I don't know, I'm just relieved the car is being built.  As an aside, this has also made my mind up to stick with the GTI instead of switching to the M135i - I've waited this long so I'm going to stick it out.

I think I'm going to stop with the negativity now and go back to being excited about getting my car - that's much more fun!  :laugh:

The problem with this is that other people with Build week 33 had their builds go through normally as planned, when yours didn't. I call bullsh!t from VW UK.

Shhhh AAddict, I'm trying to ignore this fact!  :laugh:

Yes Bear, you would have been BW39 instead of BW37 so you will now receive your beemer well in advance of when you would have received the GTI - good decision!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 August 2013, 16:43
Great news mate, and it's so much more satisfying to know you have put up and waited it out. At the end of the day, you can choose to be negative about things, or be positive and look forward to it!

I'm a very positive person anyways, but this palava has made me a right moany old (unt - so I'm going to go back to being excited!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 27 August 2013, 16:45
I'm a very positive person anyways, but this palava has made me a right moany old (unt - so I'm going to go back to being excited!  :laugh:

Haha, I had my moments even though it went through in week 32, but the drought will soon be over!  09:30 on Sunday morning can't come around soon enough :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 August 2013, 16:46
I'm a very positive person anyways, but this palava has made me a right moany old (unt - so I'm going to go back to being excited!  :laugh:

Haha, I had my moments even though it went through in week 32, but the drought will soon be over!  09:30 on Sunday morning can't come around soon enough :grin:

Too right, bet you can't wait!  I look forward to the pics!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 27 August 2013, 16:49


The problem with this is that other people with Build week 33 had their builds go through normally as planned, when yours didn't. I call bullsh!t from VW UK.

Shhhh AAddict, I'm trying to ignore this fact!  :laugh:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj00rk1jLt1qcabl0o1_400.gif)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 August 2013, 16:51


The problem with this is that other people with Build week 33 had their builds go through normally as planned, when yours didn't. I call bullsh!t from VW UK.

Shhhh AAddict, I'm trying to ignore this fact!  :laugh:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj00rk1jLt1qcabl0o1_400.gif)

I knew you would come back with a gif  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 27 August 2013, 16:55
Too right, bet you can't wait!  I look forward to the pics!!

This day already feels like it has lasted a week!  Will take plenty of snaps to feed the hunger, even if it is just another white 5 door! :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 August 2013, 16:56
Too right, bet you can't wait!  I look forward to the pics!!

This day already feels like it has lasted a week!  Will take plenty of snaps to feed the hunger, even if it is just another white 5 door! :)

All snaps are good, takes our minds off the fact we haven't got ours yet!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 27 August 2013, 16:57


The problem with this is that other people with Build week 33 had their builds go through normally as planned, when yours didn't. I call bullsh!t from VW UK.

Shhhh AAddict, I'm trying to ignore this fact!  :laugh:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj00rk1jLt1qcabl0o1_400.gif)

I knew you would come back with a gif  :grin: :grin:

I'm nothing if not predictable

(http://static.tumblr.com/qljk4zf/UW6m7qus5/1.gif)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 27 August 2013, 16:57
All snaps are good, takes our minds off the fact we haven't got ours yet!

I know what you mean, every little helps, right?  Or is that Tesco?!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 27 August 2013, 17:19
Just out of interest... how many more posts until this thread is maxed out?

There has been over 2000 posts and nearly 75,000 views! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: And I'm only accepting responsibility for maybe 200 of those posts... 250 at the most! :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 August 2013, 17:37
Just out of interest... how many more posts until this thread is maxed out?

There has been over 2000 posts and nearly 75,000 views! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: And I'm only accepting responsibility for maybe 200 of those posts... 250 at the most! :whistle:

 :grin: I must be up there with you Bear!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TurboTrev on 27 August 2013, 18:07
The ironic thing is, I started this thread but then cancelled my order 4 weeks later because of the delays.  I still have the tracking order number and it's being built this week!!  However, it was a 5 door and we now want a 3 door....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 27 August 2013, 21:20
if my confirmed build week 36 isn't built in week 36 then I'm cancelling. I'm not putting up with this sh!t any more. really piss poor customer service from VW. wk36 was still 22 weeks from my order date and another 2 to 3 for build and delivery take it up to 25 weeks, I could have built an estate of f7cking houses in that time!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 August 2013, 21:48
if my confirmed build week 36 isn't built in week 36 then I'm cancelling. I'm not putting up with this sh!t any more. really piss poor customer service from VW. wk36 was still 22 weeks from my order date and another 2 to 3 for build and delivery take it up to 25 weeks, I could have built an estate of f7cking houses in that time!!

You may be one of the lucky ones....but they are far & few between. I think it's best to prepare yourself for a BW38 and then if gets built BW36 happy days.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 27 August 2013, 22:00
I think we need to start betting on who will actually go through with their cancelations!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 August 2013, 22:09
I think we need to start betting on who will actually go through with their cancelations!

Ill have a tenner on Bear!  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 27 August 2013, 22:11
Ill have a tenner on Bear!  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:

Haha!  No see, the bet on Bear is how long before he cancels the BMW and re-takes his original GTI build ;)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 27 August 2013, 22:44
I think we need to start betting on who will actually go through with their cancelations!


I think we need to start betting who ends up in the nut house first??  :-X


One or two candidates methinks.....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: RikWebb on 27 August 2013, 23:00
I think we need to start betting on who will actually go through with their cancelations!


I think we need to start betting who ends up in the nut house first??  :-X


One or two candidates methinks.....

Wibble !!  :tongue:

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dirvy on 28 August 2013, 07:36
In transit changed to 10 days this morning. Definitely three stages within in transit section
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: allycat45 on 29 August 2013, 12:54
Just had an (unprompted) email from my dealer telling me that he has had confirmation that the delay to my vehicle was down to the reversing camera and that VW are sending some leisure vouchers for inconvenience.

He didn't give me an estimated build or delivery week, so I replied and asked him if he could confirm week 37 / 8th September as the build week since that is what the tracker says ?

His reply was "Yes the car is still showing the same as you have down on the last email" which is a little ambiguous to my mind. I am presuming he means the email I sent him today asking about week 37. Maybe it's just his writing style, but I have had several emails from him which could be ambiguous in what they are telling you. No reason to doubt him though, as it has all proceeded according to the original estimate, albeit very long like most people.

OK, so 1-2 weeks to wait now before I move into the "when will my car be shipped, which ship is it on, why does i take so long to get from A to B to C" ? discussions that others are having now  :whistle:  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 August 2013, 13:16
His reply was "Yes the car is still showing the same as you have down on the last email" which is a little ambiguous to my mind. I am presuming he means the email I sent him today asking about week 37. Maybe it's just his writing style, but I have had several emails from him which could be ambiguous in what they are telling you.

Virtually every email I've had from my dealer is like that.  No lie.  Even the simplest requests for confirmation of something end up being worded so you are left thinking "what the f**k?".  On a few occasions I've even send follow up emails.  One of these was of the form "did you mean x or did you mean y" to which the answer came back "yes". :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 29 August 2013, 20:25
Glad that's not just me then.  My conversation today was like drawing teeth at times.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: DougL on 29 August 2013, 21:20
It's really not a wonder that VW dealers score badly. What is it with them. They seem completely disconnected from what their customers actually want, as is evidenced by their latest showings in the tabloid auto press surveys. We don't want arrogance, all we want is a little bit of attention, attentiveness and honesty. Seriously, it's not that hard. I like VW product, but to avoid the bullsh!t, I had to order via a broker. My servicing will all be through one of the few remaining service centres, MJ Warner in Herts and not one of the big boys. They can go f**k themselves.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Moro on 30 August 2013, 07:38
Happy days, I now have confirmed build week 39. This matches the first estimated build week I was given after the order was accepted, although I'm sure the dealer initially thought it would be week 36 when I placed the order in June. I hope it is built with all the extras I ordered including the camera!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Croz13 on 30 August 2013, 09:37
I have also been confirmed build week 39 today  :smiley:
Ordered 25th May, least I know its coming now  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 30 August 2013, 13:56
Confirmed build wk35 but still showing as build week confirmed. If it doesn't change by tomorrow it's not looking good. Looking at build wk33's who were pushed back by 2 weeks it looks like I'm in the same boat with mine. VW proberly think that "he's waited this long another few weeks can't do any harm". The wait continues (currently at 18 weeks).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GTIEcosse on 30 August 2013, 14:09
Confirmed build wk35 but still showing as build week confirmed. If it doesn't change by tomorrow it's not looking good. Looking at build wk33's who were pushed back by 2 weeks it looks like I'm in the same boat with mine. VW proberly think that "he's waited this long another few weeks can't do any harm". The wait continues (currently at 18 weeks).

Me too, confirmed BW 35, still reading "Your order has been confirmed for production week commencing 25/08/2013 ".

Dealer of course can offer no more than a shrug! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 01 September 2013, 21:27
when do they normally update the tracker?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 September 2013, 21:53
when do they normally update the tracker?

Depends what stage you're talking. If you mean from "with the factory" to "build week confirmed" then it is usually late on a Thursday, so you'd see the change Friday morning. For all the post build changes it's generally an overnight change following an event actually happening, like completion of build and all the stages of transit.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 01 September 2013, 21:59
Finally changed to Build in Progress  :smiley: hopefully not long to wait now!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 01 September 2013, 21:59
Waiting for it to go into Build in Progress, and thats supposed to happen, w\c 01/09...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 01 September 2013, 22:02
Blades what build week were you mate?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 01 September 2013, 22:06
Blades what build week were you mate?

BW35, tracker changed to in progress earlier today.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 September 2013, 22:12
Aidey: If they're still running more than a week late, then the change to "build in progress" seems to happen on the Saturday night before the next BW commences. If yours changes next Saturday night/Sunday morning then chances are it is getting built a little behind schedule. My BW33 GTD was built Sunday/Monday of BW35 with the tracker changing to "build commenced" on the cusp of BW33 (Sat night) to  BW34(Sun morning).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 01 September 2013, 22:14
Cheers Guys, might get built sometime this next few weeks then
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 02 September 2013, 16:58
Mine is still saying BW Confirmed, production week confirmed 01/09/13.  It has not changed to Build in progress yet. I will keep a close eye on it this week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 02 September 2013, 17:16
Mine is still saying BW Confirmed, production week confirmed 01/09/13.  It has not changed to Build in progress yet. I will keep a close eye on it this week.

same as mine then mate, maybe we will both get the cars same time?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 September 2013, 17:57
my gtd now says build in progress. keep checking.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 02 September 2013, 18:54
my gtd now says build in progress. keep checking.

Perhaps yours is actually getting built to schedule, it shouldn't be saying that until at least Sunday morning if it hadn't been started yet.

Or maybe VW are just toying with you, via the tracker.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 September 2013, 19:27
its changed to what it said this morning so looks like VW toying with me.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 02 September 2013, 19:49
Mine is still saying BW Confirmed, production week confirmed 01/09/13.  It has not changed to Build in progress yet. I will keep a close eye on it this week.

same as mine then mate, maybe we will both get the cars same time?
  Lets hope so.  The excitement VW sapped from me with the long wait is starting to slowly return again knowing i am almost on the home straight.  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AlphaOneZero on 02 September 2013, 21:46
Hi guys, new to the forum, still waiting on a confirmed BW for mine, ordered beginning of June and have an unconfirmed BW of 40 (thanks to VWCS, not my dealer  :huh:), standard spec, flat black (wanted pearl but ive heard bad stories about it so saved some money) and reversing camera.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 02 September 2013, 21:50
Hi guys, new to the forum, still waiting on a confirmed BW for mine, ordered beginning of June and have an unconfirmed BW of 40 (thanks to VWCS, not my dealer  :huh:), standard spec, flat black (wanted pearl but ive heard bad stories about it so saved some money) and reversing camera.

Welcome to the forum  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 02 September 2013, 21:51
Hi guys, new to the forum, still waiting on a confirmed BW for mine, ordered beginning of June and have an unconfirmed BW of 40 (thanks to VWCS, not my dealer  :huh:), standard spec, flat black (wanted pearl but ive heard bad stories about it so saved some money) and reversing camera.

Yeah welcome to the forum mate, that's a nice looking Polo GTI there, but I'm sure you'll have more fun in your new Golf GTI when you get it!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: theflash on 02 September 2013, 22:17
wanted pearl but ive heard bad stories

I'm fairly new to the forum too, but just have to ask that you don't make off-hand statements like this with no follow up. I don't suppose you realise how long it took to make that decision! :undecided:

Only joking mate, good luck with that reversing camera  :wink:  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 02 September 2013, 22:20
wanted pearl but ive heard bad stories

I'm fairly new to the forum too, but just have to ask that you don't make off-hand statements like this with no follow up. I don't suppose you realise how long it took to make that decision! :undecided:

Only joking mate, good luck with that reversing camera  :wink:  :grin:

I wouldn't worry about it. Flat black is a lovely deep shade of black but its an absolute killer to keep clean
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 02 September 2013, 23:06
wanted pearl but ive heard bad stories

I'm fairly new to the forum too, but just have to ask that you don't make off-hand statements like this with no follow up. I don't suppose you realise how long it took to make that decision! :undecided:

Only joking mate, good luck with that reversing camera  :wink:  :grin:

I'm intrigued to know the bad sories about Pearl - some say it's too sparkly or has too much depth? The only downside I can see is it is a bugger to colour match should you have any remedial work with the body (had a Polo in Pearl with a delivery fault that I spotted a week into ownership (first wash). You could see the spray-in patch in certain overcast light, if you were looking for it).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AlphaOneZero on 03 September 2013, 17:13
wanted pearl but ive heard bad stories

I'm fairly new to the forum too, but just have to ask that you don't make off-hand statements like this with no follow up. I don't suppose you realise how long it took to make that decision! :undecided:

Only joking mate, good luck with that reversing camera  :wink:  :grin:

Lol, sorry, didn't mean to give you any reason to worry, for me the type of paint isn't a concern, just the look and other extenuating factors (ability to respray for damage, etc).

Pearl black looks the balls on a clean car, and I was very very tempted to go for it, but it was an extra, looks pretty similar to flat black when dirty, can be a pain on a panel respray, and just wasn't as deep a shade as flat black IMO (on the two mk6 golfs I compared against)

Again though, on a clean car, I envy you

Oh and sorry for drifting off topic  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 03 September 2013, 17:49
Typically my MK6 gt has a fault today, the exhaust emissions light has lit up on the dash, marvellous , i dont fancy coughing up ££££ to fix something at this stage.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 03 September 2013, 18:41
Typically my MK6 gt has a fault today, the exhaust emissions light has lit up on the dash, marvellous , i dont fancy coughing up ££££ to fix something at this stage.

Are you part exchanging it?  Disconnect the light and leave VW to deal with their own damn mess? :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 03 September 2013, 19:35
yes bear the mk6 is sold back to them, should of gone by now really, just hope its nothing major
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: theflash on 03 September 2013, 19:38
Typically my MK6 gt has a fault today, the exhaust emissions light has lit up on the dash, marvellous , i dont fancy coughing up ££££ to fix something at this stage.

Are you part exchanging it?  Disconnect the light and leave VW to deal with their own damn mess? :evil:

Textbook!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: stuart.cameron on 03 September 2013, 20:04
How long does it take from the order being withe factory until getting a build week?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 September 2013, 20:28
How long does it take from the order being withe factory until getting a build week?

Could be an age. "order with factory" just means the factory has accepted the order. My order was accepted on 5th April and my confirmed build week was 20 weeks later (actually built over 2 weeks after that).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Flintymutt on 03 September 2013, 21:34
How are the build weeks now looking? I ordered in late June. I was given an expected build week 14th October. Expecting delivery late nov early dec.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monsta on 04 September 2013, 12:14
How long does it take from the order being withe factory until getting a build week?

You'll have a preliminary build week already - not shown online but your dealer can tell you from looking at their system...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 04 September 2013, 12:59
I've just got off the phone to my dealer to discuss a couple of things, while we were chatting he mentioned that my original order of none PP GTI was still coming and should arrive a couple of weeks after mine so mid October :o

He said when he added PP it must've generated a fresh order leaving the original in place, he said they don't mind cos they'll sell it anyway so anyone that wants it give him a call, i didn't get a discount off the price but got a great trade in value.

The details are:

5dr GTI DSG
Pure White
Pan Roof
DCC
Keyless
Rear Camera
Park Assist
Pro Nav

£32195 when ordered. Edited: as that price was with PP.

Interested? Give Ian a call:

Ian Aplin
Hadwins VW
Lindale
Grange over sands
Cumbria
LA11 6LP
01539 538307

Just tell him James sent you!! ;)




Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 04 September 2013, 12:59
Alpha

Have you stolen my avatar?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 04 September 2013, 13:03
I've just got off the phone to my dealer to discuss a couple of things, while we were chatting he mentioned that my original order of none PP GTI was still coming and should arrive a couple of weeks after mine so mid October :shocked:

He said when he added PP it must've generated a fresh order leaving the original in place, he said they don't mind cos they'll sell it anyway so anyone that wants it give him a call, i didn't get a discount off the price but got a great trade in value.

The details are:

5dr GTI DSG
Pure White
Pan Roof
DCC
Keyless
Rear Camera
Park Assist
Pro Nav

£33175 when ordered.

Interested? Give Ian a call:

Ian Aplin
Hadwins VW
Lindale
Grange over sands
Cumbria
LA11 6LP
01539 538307

Just tell him James sent you!! :wink:

Great Spec but with no discount that is bloody expensive
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 04 September 2013, 13:06
Very very expensive!

Strange that it caused a new order.  I did something similar but as far as I'm aware my original non-PP car just turned into the PP one as the order number was not changed.  However it might be that I made the change fast enough before things had been processed and "accepted" such that the "original" order basically never existed as far as the system was concerned.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AlphaOneZero on 04 September 2013, 14:49
Alpha

Have you stolen my avatar?

Blast you goggle image search!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lagerlout on 04 September 2013, 15:56
Gah. Build starts next week (yeah yeah). No fingernails left already.  :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 04 September 2013, 19:13
Very very expensive!

Strange that it caused a new order.  I did something similar but as far as I'm aware my original non-PP car just turned into the PP one as the order number was not changed.  However it might be that I made the change fast enough before things had been processed and "accepted" such that the "original" order basically never existed as far as the system was concerned.


I've edited my previous post as the price i'd put up was inc PP. :embarrassed:


Yeah they're not cheap are they?? That price is just the value from the book prior to the may increase, anyone that wants it will need to do there own hagling obviously.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AlphaOneZero on 06 September 2013, 08:32
Tracker has updated to show build commencing week staring 29/09/13

 :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 06 September 2013, 09:12
Couldn't believe my eyes this morning when I checked the tracker. Build Week confirmed 29/9/13.

Yahoooooooo!!!#%?!**

Great feeling after my horrendous GTD order calamity (all in the past now).

My dealer estimated BW 40 at time of order so he'll be very close if not spot on.

(http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w565/Gary_Monkey/image_zps839c7f9b.jpg)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Neil_MK on 06 September 2013, 10:16
My (re-ordered) car changed status to confirmed w/c 29/09/13 today too! Looks like the priority tag on the order did have some effect as last I heard from my dealer it was unconfirmed BW49.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Flintymutt on 06 September 2013, 13:35
Couldn't believe my eyes this morning when I checked the tracker. Build Week confirmed 29/9/13.

Yahoooooooo!!!#%?!**

Great feeling after my horrendous GTD order calamity (all in the past now).

My dealer estimated BW 40 at time of order so he'll be very close if not spot on.

(http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w565/Gary_Monkey/image_zps839c7f9b.jpg)

When did you order out of interest? I placed at the end June with an estimated oct 14th build week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 06 September 2013, 13:59
When did you order out of interest? I placed at the end June with an estimated oct 14th build week.

@Flintymutt I ordered 2 July and was estimated BW 40 which is exactly how its turned out. Can't say fairer than that from the stealers!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Flintymutt on 06 September 2013, 15:16
When did you order out of interest? I placed at the end June with an estimated oct 14th build week.

@Flintymutt I ordered 2 July and was estimated BW 40 which is exactly how its turned out. Can't say fairer than that from the stealers!

Error on my part. Order confirmed 4th July. Initial build week 42.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AlphaOneZero on 07 September 2013, 00:22
When did you order out of interest? I placed at the end June with an estimated oct 14th build week.

@Flintymutt I ordered 2 July and was estimated BW 40 which is exactly how its turned out. Can't say fairer than that from the stealers!

Really? I ordered the beginning of June and was told to expect a BW 40, this was before the whole rear camera shortage came to light I think

Well anywhoo, just glad it's confirmed now, if it is built beginning of oct does anyone have a rough estimate of how long it'll take to get UK-side?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 07 September 2013, 00:37
When did you order out of interest? I placed at the end June with an estimated oct 14th build week.

@Flintymutt I ordered 2 July and was estimated BW 40 which is exactly how its turned out. Can't say fairer than that from the stealers!

Really? I ordered the beginning of June and was told to expect a BW 40, this was before the whole rear camera shortage came to light I think

Well anywhoo, just glad it's confirmed now, if it is built beginning of oct does anyone have a rough estimate of how long it'll take to get UK-side?


Although VW say 4-6 weeks it seems to be around 3-4 on average atm reading through the threads on here, thats end of the production line to dealership.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 07 September 2013, 16:01
Order tracker stopped working for anyone else.  My car has been in-build for 3 weeks, and now the tracker just says my order cannot be found.

I just know it was that one on the back of the lorry in Kent and has been smashed to pieces!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 07 September 2013, 16:14
Order tracker stopped working for anyone else.  My car has been in-build for 3 weeks, and now the tracker just says my order cannot be found.

I just know it was that one on the back of the lorry in Kent and has been smashed to pieces!


Everyone mate, don't worry.


http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259050.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259050.0)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 07 September 2013, 16:14
Yeah,  it seems to be down for a lot of folk at the moment

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259050.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259050.0)

*edit* beaten to the punch!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 07 September 2013, 18:40
Although VW say 4-6 weeks it seems to be around 3-4 on average atm reading through the threads on here, thats end of the production line to dealership.

6 weeks from BW is accurate. It takes 4 weeks to deliver a built car, but right now it's taking the feckers 2 weeks past BW to start building it!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 08 September 2013, 08:51
6 Weeks seems about right.  I have just gone on to the tracker a short while ago and it states 'Build in Progress'.  It's Sunday Morning and my actual predicted Build Week was last week, week commencing 01/09/13.  So it seems as others state in this forum, the tracker has just rolled over automatically to Build in Progress on Sunday Morning (the start of a week), as I very much doubt Volkswagen pay their staff to work at 7:35am on Sunday Morning, no matter how much behind they are. :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 September 2013, 09:10
6 Weeks seems about right.  I have just gone on to the tracker a short while ago and it states 'Build in Progress'.  It's Sunday Morning and my actual predicted Build Week was last week, week commencing 01/09/13.  So it seems as others state in this forum, the tracker has just rolled over automatically to Build in Progress on Sunday Morning (the start of a week), as I very much doubt Volkswagen pay their staff to work at 7:35am on Sunday Morning, no matter how much behind they are. :laugh:

That pretty much confirms that the factory is still very much behind schedule.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redpoppies on 18 September 2013, 21:34
I collected my GTi from ListersVW in Nuneaton today. For the record that is 23 weeks since I ordered and 11+ weeks later than the order delivery/commitment date. I did get a bunch of flowers though! Thank you to all on this forum for their information and support. It did help to know I was not alone.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 September 2013, 21:54
I collected my GTi from ListersVW in Nuneaton today. For the record that is 23 weeks since I ordered and 11+ weeks later than the order delivery/commitment date. I did get a bunch of flowers though! Thank you to all on this forum for their information and support. It did help to know I was not alone.

Pics?!?!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lagerlout on 20 September 2013, 08:30
Well, I've been waiting for mine since April and now I've cancelled the order. It's still not been built (BW37) and I simply can not wait another month for it (no indication of real build date). This has me so bloody angry I can't tell you. Will not buy another VW product again after this charade. I can get a hand built Morgan faster than this in fact almost any car on the planet.

If anyone wants a cancelled order PP manual, 3dr, Oryx White, Big Nav, 18", Parking Cam, ACC etc contact me and I'll tell you who to speak to and where it is.

VW factory if you give a sh!t - massive fail, sort yourselves out.  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 September 2013, 08:38
Pics?!?!

Pic of the flowers or the car?  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 September 2013, 08:43
Lagerlout:  what’s on the cards for you now? Stick with what you have or something else in mind?

BW37 – so close yet so far. If they are only 2 weeks behind and you live reasonably close to a receiving port then another month would probably be just about viable if they didn’t hang around with the shipping. When you wait so long for a car you expect it to at least be built to schedule, can’t see why VW would rather delay a 5 month wait GTD/GTI 2 weeks when they could ensure it is built to schedule by bumping a standard Golf 2 weeks instead, which has probably only waited 8 weeks to build. SE/GT are getting built and delivered within 12 weeks right now.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lagerlout on 20 September 2013, 08:52
12 weeks? FFS. That makes me even more mad, really.  :lipsrsealed:

Don't know what I'm looking for now. Still a bit angry to make a proper decision. ;) I do have the luxury of choice and the GTI was always a bit of a whim for me as I'd alway just wanted one. But this experience has totally turned me off to the brand. I think I will go back to some big barge as I spend most of my time tooling up the motorway going to see customers. I don't do massive mileage, but my trips are normally 400+ odd miles and 6-10 hours in the car.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 20 September 2013, 09:08
Well, I've been waiting for mine since April and now I've cancelled the order. It's still not been built (BW37) and I simply can not wait another month for it (no indication of real build date). This has me so bloody angry I can't tell you. Will not buy another VW product again after this charade. I can get a hand built Morgan faster than this in fact almost any car on the planet.

If anyone wants a cancelled order PP manual, 3dr, Oryx White, Big Nav, 18", Parking Cam, ACC etc contact me and I'll tell you who to speak to and where it is.

VW factory if you give a sh!t - massive fail, sort yourselves out.  :angry:

I'm in the same position. Unbuilt bw37 and ordered in April. The excitement of my order has just been turned into anger and frustration. Buying a new car isn't supposed to be like this .............
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 September 2013, 09:26
I think I will go back to some big barge as I spend most of my time tooling up the motorway going to see customers.

Sounds like you want an Audi A4/A6 or BMW 5 series – there’ve been some great deals lately if buying new. “Hotukdeals” had a deal posted with about 27% discount on a variety of A6 models recently.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 September 2013, 09:27
The excitement of my order has just been turned into anger and frustration. Buying a new car isn't supposed to be like this .............

If you can hang in there the car is a belter when you finally get it. My delay frustrations are a distant memory now (I’m sure most people who have recently got theirs, like MB can also attest to this).

My BW33 car that was bult in BW35 has been with me just over a week now. A BW37 car built 2 weeks late and shipped/delivered to similar timescales as mine was should be with you in less than a month.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 20 September 2013, 10:39
The excitement of my order has just been turned into anger and frustration. Buying a new car isn't supposed to be like this .............

If you can hang in there the car is a belter when you finally get it. My delay frustrations are a distant memory now (I’m sure most people who have recently got theirs, like MB can also attest to this).

My BW33 car that was bult in BW35 has been with me just over a week now. A BW37 car built 2 weeks late and shipped/delivered to similar timescales as mine was should be with you in less than a month.

I certainly can.  The amount of phone calls, emails etc etc that I've done over the last 5 months is ridiculous - and also the anger, frustration and general 'p!ssed off ness' of the whole process was wearing me down.  24 weeks of it.

But - it is worth it in the end, I promise.  You will not be disappointed.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lagerlout on 20 September 2013, 11:40
BTDT on all the Mercs/BMW's and hate Audis. I'm actually quite interested in the Volvo V60 plug in hybrid, does c. 20 miles on electricity which is enough to get me to work for a recharge and back without costing me a penny, then on the motorway it does 57 mpg. It's also 4WD and does 0-60 in about 6 seconds. Volvo advertises it, but can you see one, or buy one? No. Of course not.

That is what I was looking at before I went for the Golf and you would have thought 12 months later they would have got their act together. But no. I really wonder what will happen to dinosaurs like VW when an efficient car company (or is that an oxymoron) enters the fray.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 September 2013, 12:20
I really wonder what will happen to dinosaurs like VW when an efficient car company (or is that an oxymoron) enters the fray.

When they start making cars no-one wants (if that ever happens) then they will fall flat on their arse. I honestly thought they might get their come-uppance with the MK6. The GTI and GTD were 20% more expensive than their outgoing MK5 equivalents for a slight interior quality improvement but hardly any other discernible extras and a step backwards externally IMO. Not sure whether the MK7 has had so much kit thrown at it to make it look massively better value than the MK6 because of poor MK6 sales? Did they not meet expectations or are VW being perceptively more generous with the MK7? All I know for sure is that in my locality MK5s outnumber MK6s about 3 to 1 and they were out for about the same length of time each.

Everyone thought the Koreans coming in would revolutionise the market with long warranties, big spec and low prices. In reality their prices have been climbing to the point they don’t look especially cheap. I found myself looking at the Volvo V40 the other day when in the Metrocentre – there is a Volvo shop/showroom in a shop space next to Debenhams and I passed it – quite a handsome car in the flesh (especially in the Azure blue shade they had – it’s called something else) apart from the fussy back end.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 20 September 2013, 13:03
Thanks Monkeyhanger and Matchboy. They are comforting words in these frustrating times!

I have thought about cancelling several times but seeing other people's reactions when they get their car convinces me its best to hang on.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Nevets on 27 November 2013, 18:17
Back on 30 Aug 2007 I reported a problem with my new Golf GTI DSG.
From day one it started to go wrong. First, second and sometimes third the gearbox would clunk quite badly, and would roll back some four car lengths before the box would bite.

After much arguing with my retailer they replaced the mechatronic (part of the box). More arguing and they then replaced the gearbox complete. However, the problem still remained. After that come denial after denial of any problems.

Trading Standards supplied me with a company that specialised in reporting whether a car was faulty or not. It cost £174 and the outcome was that the car was not fit for purpose. Even then the retailer refused to do anymore work, saying it was a characteristic of all golf gti's with DSG. I asked them to show me, yet after trying 3 different GTIs none had the same issues.
The mechanic stated there was a problem but the managers stated there was no problem as they had driven my car and as far as they were concerned the car drove perfectly in never way.

I then asked for the principle manager. When he arrived he immediately stated I had been mis-sold a car and would source a new one. I even received an email from the new sales manager stating he would deal with it when he came back off holiday. In the meantime I was told to call the manufacture. Many calls later I was given my own manager. She told me they were going to send down a technician to investigate. I agreed but shortly I could not get in touch with that manager again and was informed that the technician was cancelled. Why, I have no idea.
Much more went on and I was completely put off of ever dealing with them again.

I will say. When it was first purchased and the gearbox behaved it's self I loved that car and I loved that gearbox. However, I was unaware of what was to come.

After 7-8 months of hell I had decided to part company and join another manufacture and retailer. Since leaving them I have purchase 4 brand new cars, each to the value between 26000-30000. I guess they lost a customer who would have gone on the purchase more from that retailer had they have treated me as they say they do but I guess I was not valued enough.

I would not want to put anyone off purchasing a Golf. No, that would not be me. They are fantastic cars but I would hate anyone to be placed in my position. It was hell.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 27 November 2013, 18:37
Bad times mate but why did you post that in this thread? ???
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Nevets on 27 November 2013, 18:55
Jimble and others. Sorry mate I thought I'd posted in the same place as a discussion on the recall, seen in Autocar.

"Volkswagen UK has given further information on why it sees no reason to issue a recall for its seven-speed dual shift DSG gearbox-equipped cars, despite similarly equipped cars in other parts of the world being recalled."

Not been here since 2007, so not unto speed.

My deepest apologies.

Nevets
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 27 November 2013, 19:16
Jimble and others. Sorry mate I thought I'd posted in the same place as a discussion on the recall, seen in Autocar.

"Volkswagen UK has given further information on why it sees no reason to issue a recall for its seven-speed dual shift DSG gearbox-equipped cars, despite similarly equipped cars in other parts of the world being recalled."

Not been here since 2007, so not unto speed.

My deepest apologies.

Nevets


No probs mate! Welcome back! :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JBirchy on 28 November 2013, 11:39
Jimble and others. Sorry mate I thought I'd posted in the same place as a discussion on the recall, seen in Autocar.

"Volkswagen UK has given further information on why it sees no reason to issue a recall for its seven-speed dual shift DSG gearbox-equipped cars, despite similarly equipped cars in other parts of the world being recalled."

Not been here since 2007, so not unto speed.

My deepest apologies.

Nevets

^^ It's a 6 Speeder in the GTI bud. I know you probably know this already but if talking about the GTI, the above comment from VW isn't accurate.

Sounds like you had a nightmare though, seems like a few niggles with the new model were around, hopefully sorting themselves out!