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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Rich 3 on 08 October 2018, 18:36
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Hi all,
I am looking at possibly switching from my current BMW 430d to a Golf GTI PP (DSG), and wonder what people's typical mpg is for the said cars?
I will be using the car for mainly shortish distance trips in busy traffic, but with occasional B road blats and longer motorway runs.
The reason for asking is that I was expecting to average mid to late 30's mpg, but having looked on the VW approved used website I noticed that dashboard photographs of one particular car showed an average of 26.5 mpg!
I realise that this is a dealer car that is almost brand new and has likely been ragged from birth, and that driving style etc will have a major bearing on mpg - but, coming from a diesel I want to check what mpg I am likely to achieve in my mix of driving.
Any useful comments much appreciated.
Thanks
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I don’t have a PP but just a standard GTi. Will average 35 easily and seen up to 40 on longer smooth trips. That’s with mostly A road and town driving over the 8000 miles since we bought it.
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Drive it sensibly and you easily achieve high 30s. I've got a manual pp Mk7 and get mid 40s on a run every time. Mpg's do drop in the winter time though so expect around 10% less when it's cold.
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When you say shortish trips in busy traffic can you be a bit more specific? Do you mean lots of stopping or steady but slow moving progress? And how often do you do these trips? My commute is 5 miles but because I travel outside of the usual busy times I get a steady run at it resulting in 30 to 35mpg in the summer and down to 27 in winter. Stop start progress does impact on that but it would be difficult to predict your likely result. On a long motorway run 40 to 45 is fairly normal for me and a nice A road blast would still net late 30s. Mine is a manual though, DSG would likely drop a few mpgs.
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Many thanks for the replies so far guys - very helpful.
To answer the question from 'Watts' and be a little more specific - my short journeys would be around 5 miles in length and a mix of fairly heavy stop start traffic and fastish flowing B roads.
Cheers
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We've put about 6000 miles on ours since new. The wife mainly using it for short journeys around town to friends, its averaged about 32.
When we took it to north Wales a month ago we easily got low 40's.
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Many thanks for the replies so far guys - very helpful.
To answer the question from 'Watts' and be a little more specific - my short journeys would be around 5 miles in length and a mix of fairly heavy stop start traffic and fastish flowing B roads.
Cheers
You might drop below 30 on those journeys but if you do some regular longer trips I'm pretty sure overall you'll average mid 30s ish overall. Economy is a strong point in these cars along with plenty of fun :smiley:
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Most of my journeys are across country and any commutes to work involve two traffic light queues - I get around 33/34mpg however throw in the odd motorway trip and it goes up to around 40.
Recently did 44 miles on the M3 and as I was early just cruised along, averaged 52mpg for the trip (admittedly that was motorway almost door to door).
Every time I follow my wifes 1.4 TSI on the motorway I can always beat her ......just, both are DSGs.
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Throughout the summer I've been averaging 40 mpg per tank from full. Over my 6 months of ownership I've averaged 38mpg.
I do nearly all motorway miles though.
Edit - mine is a DSG PP.
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My PP DSG averages around mid 30's in a mix of short journeys and longer ones of around 40 miles. Note also that I run it on Tesco Momentum as on regular unleaded the fuel consumption seems one or two mpg higher.
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Coming from an E92 330d, I was also worried about mpg. Happy to say my mk7.5 GTI is pretty good. My 6 mile commute to work gets 36-38 mpg and a 400 mile round trip to Reading and back with cc set at 68mph I got 47 mpg. Not bad for a 230bhp petrol 😎
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Thanks for all the latest replies folks - all really helpful.
'Wolly440' which version of the GTI do you have? PP? DSG? etc. Your comments are reassuring as you have made a similar switch to the one I am thinking of :smiley:
My overall mileage is pretty low at present and mid to late 30's mpg seems acceptable to me, but having driven performance diesels for the last 15 or so years with both strong performance and economy - I would baulk at moving to regular mpg in the 20's :shocked:
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Thanks for all the latest replies folks - all really helpful.
'Wolly440' which version of the GTI do you have? PP? DSG? etc. Your comments are reassuring as you have made a similar switch to the one I am thinking of :smiley:
My overall mileage is pretty low at present and mid to late 30's mpg seems acceptable to me, but having driven performance diesels for the last 15 or so years with both strong performance and economy - I would baulk at moving to regular mpg in the 20's :shocked:
Mine is just a standard gti manual, only done 700 miles, not given it a good blast yet, has plenty of low down torque so can still be driven like a lazy diesel.
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Coming from an E92 330d, I was also worried about mpg. Happy to say my mk7.5 GTI is pretty good. My 6 mile commute to work gets 36-38 mpg and a 400 mile round trip to Reading and back with cc set at 68mph I got 47 mpg. Not bad for a 230bhp petrol 😎
I don't think with CC set at 68mph that you'd be using many of the 230 horses!!!
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Many thanks for the replies so far guys - very helpful.
To answer the question from 'Watts' and be a little more specific - my short journeys would be around 5 miles in length and a mix of fairly heavy stop start traffic and fastish flowing B roads.
Cheers
My 245 DSG just hit 3k since it arrived at start of June. My daily commute is about 6 miles each way in a lots of stop start traffic and hills. Most days I struggle to get much over 25mpg on way in and around 20 on way home... (its more uphill and stationary traffic when I leave work).
Did around a 200 mile trip last week, lot of which was on the M1 and averaged 40 for the whole trip - sat around 75-80 on the motorway parts.
It completely depends on the roads, the traffic and how you apply your right foot. If you are stop start in traffic you aren't going to be hitting over 30 mpg. As has been said before, if you are really concerned about mpg, best opting for the GTD.
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Just for a comparison my manual 7.5 PP does 25-30mpg on a normal trip to work (15 miles on the motor way).
Have done a few long journeys to Cornwall and back (around 300 miles) recently and managed to get around 40-42mpg out of it without really trying.
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As if to prove my point, extra busy coming home tonight :cry:
(https://i.postimg.cc/FzsxNHYS/A0_ED1618-_CFA3-43_BB-8507-79948_AED6_E37.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tZw6zytR)
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Ouch, not sure what’s the worst, the mpg, or 45 minutes to go 6 miles! :undecided:
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Even leathering it I've never seen less the 30 mpg.
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Avg over my 7k ish... 31mpg.
http://www.fuelly.com/car/volkswagen/golf/2018/cocopops/736992 (make sure you select uk mpg not US, if not logged in).
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(https://preview.ibb.co/d7wmM9/MVIMG_20180528_101843.jpg) (https://ibb.co/iOHFEU)
That's my best effort.
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Quite a variance there guys!, as has been stated I guess it's largely down to personal driving style, density of traffic and weather conditions etc.
What is fairly clear is (and, as I expected) that I would need to let go of the consistency of the diesel powered economy that I have been so used to, and this is something that more and more people will experience as they move away from diesel engines.
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(https://preview.ibb.co/d7wmM9/MVIMG_20180528_101843.jpg) (https://ibb.co/iOHFEU)
That's my best effort.
He’s looking for real world mpg!!
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That is real world MPG - I often achieve low to mid 40's on my commute to work without trying so I thought I'd give eco mode a go.
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I have a stage 1 tuned mk7 (PP) and use the car daily for an hours commute. This is mixed motorway and B-road, generally get mid-30's but can easily get 40mpg if I try. Overall I have been very impressed with the consumption / performance balance.
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That is real world MPG - I often achieve low to mid 40's on my commute to work without trying so I thought I'd give eco mode a go.
It was just you quoted as 'this is my best'. I could freewheel down to Chesterfield and probably get 60mpg but it doesn't really mean anything!
If low 40's is your average then that's probably more useful to the OP. As previously it does completely depend on the type of roads, traffic, hills and your right foot. If you enjoy using the engine as intended, you probably won't get 40. But that's why there's a GTD.
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Over 4 years/30k I would say I’ve averaged around 30-33 mpg; mixed road use, i dont do a lot of motorway and don’t do a lot of rush hour driving.
Mine is a Mk7 dsg pp with extra weight (sunroof) I drive sensibly, have fun moments & never really think about mpg unless I do a big cruise (then I’m impressed with 38-40 out of a GTi!) I’m 50 don’t know the price of petrol or milk (must be my age!)
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I'm doing about 60 miles a day commute; 350 ish miles a week in my Mk7.5 GTi PP.
Covered around 4500 miles since the end of June, and averaging 37mpg.
No motorways, just a mix of A and B roads between Northamptonshire and Gaydon. Fairly normal driving style with the occasional blast on the straights every now and again! :smiley:
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That is real world MPG - I often achieve low to mid 40's on my commute to work without trying so I thought I'd give eco mode a go.
It was just you quoted as 'this is my best'. I could freewheel down to Chesterfield and probably get 60mpg but it doesn't really mean anything!
If low 40's is your average then that's probably more useful to the OP. As previously it does completely depend on the type of roads, traffic, hills and your right foot. If you enjoy using the engine as intended, you probably won't get 40. But that's why there's a GTD.
The OP is asking how economical the DSP PP is and all I'm doing is giving him an example of what can be achieved when driven economically. If you wanted all out fun and no economy you wouldn't be driving a Golf.
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The mpg figures I quoted in post 8 represented typical journeys but I've now dug out my little black book and looked at the figures for each tank.
So worse case was 31.8 and the best 39.8.............overall average has been 36.7.
i do very little motorway driving, in fact I don't think I've been on one since August.
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The mpg figures I quoted in post 8 represented typical journeys but I've now dug out my little black book and looked at the figures for each tank.
So worse case was 31.8 and the best 39.8.............overall average has been 36.7.
i do very little motorway driving, in fact I don't think I've been on one since August.
You keep records for every fill up? For what purpose?
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The mpg figures I quoted in post 8 represented typical journeys but I've now dug out my little black book and looked at the figures for each tank.
So worse case was 31.8 and the best 39.8.............overall average has been 36.7.
i do very little motorway driving, in fact I don't think I've been on one since August.
You keep records for every fill up? For what purpose?
No reason really, just something I've always done (although there are a few gaps).
I can tell you that my Hillman Imp rally car back in the 70's easily did 40+ and 40 years later I still can't beat that although I reckon the CO2 has improved!
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The mpg figures I quoted in post 8 represented typical journeys but I've now dug out my little black book and looked at the figures for each tank.
So worse case was 31.8 and the best 39.8.............overall average has been 36.7.
i do very little motorway driving, in fact I don't think I've been on one since August.
You keep records for every fill up? For what purpose?
No reason really, just something I've always done (although there are a few gaps).
I can tell you that my Hillman Imp rally car back in the 70's easily did 40+ and 40 years later I still can't beat that although I reckon the CO2 has improved!
We all have our quirks! :laugh:
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Hi all,
I am looking at possibly switching from my current BMW 430d to a Golf GTI PP (DSG), and wonder what people's typical mpg is for the said cars?
I will be using the car for mainly shortish distance trips in busy traffic, but with occasional B road blats and longer motorway runs.
The reason for asking is that I was expecting to average mid to late 30's mpg, but having looked on the VW approved used website I noticed that dashboard photographs of one particular car showed an average of 26.5 mpg!
I realise that this is a dealer car that is almost brand new and has likely been ragged from birth, and that driving style etc will have a major bearing on mpg - but, coming from a diesel I want to check what mpg I am likely to achieve in my mix of driving.
Any useful comments much appreciated.
Thanks
Hi, i used to own an F30 330d that returned for me around 33 mpg on my 5 mile commute. I have a non PP GTI that i get around 27 mpg in the mornings to work and 31 mpg returning home. The difference is purely down to traffic conditions.
On a long run I will get close to 40 mpg and even 10 miles or so on relatively clear roads will see over 35 mpg.
I hope that helps.
BTW. GTI is much nicer to drive than BMW despite being slower and the engine is much more refined too. Another difference is the heater is hot within a mile where as the big diesel didn't really get warmed up at all on my short drive.
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Again non PP GTI, but for the 3000 miles I've owned it (since may), my average according to Fuelly is 36.3 mpg although I do expect that to drop a little now the colder weather is here.
My trip to work is 10 miles though a town centre in the morning, and approx 14 miles on the motorway on the way home (due to traffic conditions). My MPG going to work (from stone cold) is around 32-35mpg (depending on traffic lights etc) and around 40-45mpg on the motorway on the way home, (with over 50mpg once in the summer).
By contrast my GTD's over the same journeys would achieve around 38-42mpg in the morning and around 48-55mpg in the evenings. My overall on Fuelly for my last GTD (tracked over 16k miles) was 45.2 and my first MK7 GTD (over 23k miles) was 45.9.The GTD's really didn't like the cold weather. Will be interesting to see if the GTI is affected as badly once the real cold weather arrives?
Bear in mind as well all 3 of these cars are DSG, so a manual should be little better.
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Thanks all of you for the latest helpful comments.
All things considered, it doesn't look as though I will take too much of a battering at the pumps if I decide to make the change. :smiley:
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Mega busy leaving work last. Stationary and crawling city centre traffic all the way to nursery caused the worst mpg I’ve seen. In fact this fill up has averaged 24 so far for 200 Miles as all town driving and traffic last week or so been really bad.. :shocked:
(https://i.postimg.cc/HL6qPCv2/6-E194-EF0-9-E41-4-D53-BD31-2-CCFFF1-DDDF2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sBZHvbrQ)
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Not sure which is worse, 11mpg or taking 35 minutes to cover 3 miles :undecided: :laugh:
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Not sure which is worse, 11mpg or taking 35 minutes to cover 3 miles :undecided: :laugh:
That would be hell, I'd have to cycle to and from. Even walking would be quicker 😳
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Not sure which is worse, 11mpg or taking 35 minutes to cover 3 miles :undecided: :laugh:
That would be hell, I'd have to cycle to and from. Even walking would be quicker 😳
It's normally quick, traffic been mad busy recently. I have to get a further 3 miles uphill from that point as well! Just shows what stand still traffic does to real world mpg!