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Title: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: Prawny on 06 August 2012, 19:44
Argh! Too much for my brain :( So many different approaches!

First thing's first, 63mm minimum pipework is required the entire way from the outlet of the turbo to the throttle body.

76mm pipework isn't needed at all, anywhere, and just introduces a greater volume, and hence more lag, so sack that off.

To quickly go over the setups that Bully posted earlier in the thread:

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/0b14689a.jpg)

This setup uses a 76-63 90 reducer directly off the core, all the rest of 63mm, the pipe run on this side can be used on a mk4 golf TB arrangement or an LCR arrangement, it's the same for either.

it's on the other side that things differ if you're using one of the two inlet manifold options.

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/f3f7ab14.jpg)

This setup looks rubbish to me, whilst it's fairly smart, the use of all alloy hard pipes with silicon couplers doubles the number of joints needed in the system, so doubles the chances for a leak. by alternating between alloy and silicon bends, you minimise the number of joints required, so the system stands a better chance of being air tight.

Also, sticking in 76mm like the above gives a massive volume and lower air flow speeds which just arn't required - lag central.

It also leaves you with two MASSIVE pipes hanging out of the front of the car, very difficult to hide!

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/259dd940.jpg)

This again looks ugly to me, no need for such massive bits of silicon off the cooler, and the pipe run extends out to the sides more than it needs to, just looks messy somehow.

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/aeb12827.jpg)

This one looks fairly nice, although without knowing how it connects into the charge pipe behind the headlight it's hard to say if there's room for improvement or not. Certainly neater than the silicon 45's option above, but it does include an additional joint which you'd obviously rather avoid.


Title: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: Prawny on 06 August 2012, 20:03
 
This is my version of the Welly cooler, for the A3. This arrangement is for a ko3 framed turbo, and should work with minimal/zero trimming of the pipes/silicon. Ko4 fitment is slightly different, replacing the turbo outlet pipe with a 54-63mm silicon reducer.
This is the core, as owned by many on here already:
 
eBay - The UK's Online Marketplace (http://"http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200484166200&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:GB:1123")
 
it’s a beast, and it’s SUCH good value it’s unreal.
 
To fit that, you’ll need to cut the back of the crash bar out, but that’s dead easy and takes 5 minutes with a grinder.
 
As for mounting height, I opted to hang mine with around 6’’ of the core hanging below the crash bar, and this seemed to work well with the A3 bumper. You can bring it up a BIT more, but any higher and it fouls the top of the bumper and back of the grille, any lower and it’ll hang out the bottom!
 
To mount that I used a length of 30mm Angle section alloy bought from B&Q for about £7. that’s just secured on little bits of box section either side of the rad. All very simple stuff, you can see pics on page 26/27 of my build thread.
 
As for pipes, the cold side is VERY easy.
 
You will need:
 
1x 76-63mm 90 degree reducer in silicon
1x 63mm 90 degree silicon bends
1x 63mm 90 degree alloy bend
1x 63mm straight 100mm alloy coupler.
 
It’ll look like this:
 
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd408/prawn16/5c99113d.jpg)
 
Reducer off the core > coupler to join up the next silicon bend, > then the alloy 90 takes you into the standard throttle body pipe. Simples.
 
As for the hot side, it’s a BIT more tricky.
 
You will need:
 
1x 76-63mm 90 degree reducer in silicon
1x 63mm 90 degree silicon bends
2x 63mm 90 degree alloy bend
1x 63mm x 300mm straight alloy pipe
1x 63mm 45 degree alloy bend
1x 63mm 45 degree silicon bend
1x 51-63mm straight silicon reducer to go onto the turbo outlet.
1x 63mm straight silicon coupler.
 
The layout:
 
51-63 reducer straight onto the turbo, pointing upwards.
> alloy 90 degree bend into that, pointing forwards towards the pax side headlight. Coupler on the end of that into:
>45 degree alloy bend into that, coming over the rocker cover
>45 degree silicon bend to take the route downwards part the starter motor
> 90 degree silicon bend on the bottom, pointing outwards towards the pax wheel.
> 90 degree alloy bend, takes you out through the side of the undertray side panel, and ends up pointing forwards below the headlight
> into the 76-63  90 degree reducer pointing back towards the centre of the car, and connected onto the core :)
 
Top side setup will be very similar to this: (this is my ko4 layout)
 
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd408/prawn16/df2ad49a.jpg)
 
Although the connection onto the turbo is slightly different, because your turbo’s sit a lot lower than my ko4 frame.
 
All the silicon bits and alloy bends came from Mr. Silicon on ebay:
 
eBay My World - mrsilicone (http://"http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/mrsilicone")
 
As for the clamps, I used JCS Hi-Grip stainless steel clamps, you need the 60-80 clips for all the 63mm pipework, 2x 70-90 clips for the core connections, and then a 50-70 for the turbo connection. Count the number of joints in the system to work out how many 60-80’s you’ll need, it’s about 12 I think.
 
The core was £80, my pipes from Mr silicone came to £140, and I spent about £30 on hose clips.
 
Good luck!

Will add some finished pics of mine a bit later on :)
Title: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: Prawny on 06 August 2012, 20:13
Few finished pics:

(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd408/prawn16/d99bfdec.jpg)

Pipework changed around slightly for WMI nozzle, same pipes as in the list above, just swapped top to bottom

(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd408/prawn16/3f15d3aa.jpg)

(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd408/prawn16/85d815b2.jpg)

You do need to heat shield the outlet though, or this happens:

(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd408/prawn16/97ff0b73.jpg)

(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd408/prawn16/e1ea3aaf.jpg)
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: ReDBull on 07 August 2012, 20:33
Thanks Prwan for coming over a helping out :smiley:. Ok I'll concede it's my inlet manifold that's on the wrong side. :lipsrsealed:
I might have to re think/buy some of my pipe work as I was going to copy the one with the red hoses above! :grin:
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: Prawny on 07 August 2012, 20:44
Wow, I've only made 18 posts and I've got a sticky :D result! haha.

Don't copy the red one above! doesnt look cool!.

the best LCR/S3 wellycooler setup I've seen so far by a mile is James hayes install on his S3, seen on page 11 of the ASN FMIC thread you guys have talked so much about:

(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u61/rsvan2000/FMIC/2012274.jpg)
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u61/rsvan2000/FMIC/2012275.jpg)
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u61/rsvan2000/FMIC/2012273.jpg)
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u61/rsvan2000/FMIC/2012276.jpg)
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u61/rsvan2000/FMIC/2012277.jpg)
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u61/rsvan2000/FMIC/2012289.jpg)

Right hand side pipework is actually the same for either an LCR or a mk4 golf, regardless of inlet manifold choice, it's the left hand side pipework that changes to suit your needs.

If you look at those pics, it looks so much more neat and professional than any of the other offerings, and gives the shortest route with the least joins
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: ReDBull on 07 August 2012, 22:54
I'll be on the phone to Mr Silicone tomorrow to swap my 45's for 90's :grin: 
I wonder why the SCNer's do it differently to you guys on ASN?
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: dom on 07 August 2012, 23:06
Wow, I've only made 18 posts and I've got a sticky :D result! haha.

Don't copy the red one above! doesnt look cool!.

the best LCR/S3 wellycooler setup I've seen so far by a mile is James hayes install on his S3, seen on page 11 of the ASN FMIC thread you guys have talked so much about:

Right hand side pipework is actually the same for either an LCR or a mk4 golf, regardless of inlet manifold choice, it's the left hand side pipework that changes to suit your needs.

If you look at those pics, it looks so much more neat and professional than any of the other offerings, and gives the shortest route with the least joins

You don't have a link to that do you? I'm looking into this for my AUM at the moment, the only thing that is putting me off is that I want to be able to refit my lower bumper grills....I don't like the idea of pipework hanging out of the front.
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: Prawny on 08 August 2012, 10:02

You don't have a link to that do you? I'm looking into this for my AUM at the moment, the only thing that is putting me off is that I want to be able to refit my lower bumper grills....I don't like the idea of pipework hanging out of the front.

Pics above are of James S3 install, the HYS plate car. No use to you though as you have an AUM.

My install above in replies #1 and #2 will work perfectly on an AUM, all you'd need to do it replace the 63mm 100mm coupler on the cold side with a 63mm forge MAP pipe to house your map sensor.
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: dom on 08 August 2012, 10:10

You don't have a link to that do you? I'm looking into this for my AUM at the moment, the only thing that is putting me off is that I want to be able to refit my lower bumper grills....I don't like the idea of pipework hanging out of the front.

Pics above are of James S3 install, the HYS plate car. No use to you though as you have an AUM.

My install above in replies #1 and #2 will work perfectly on an AUM, all you'd need to do it replace the 63mm 100mm coupler on the cold side with a 63mm forge MAP pipe to house your map sensor.

Cheers :afro:
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: paultownsend on 09 August 2012, 21:21
Is there Any way of flipping the charge pipe 180' to keep the dv and n75 take off's?
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: Prawny on 09 August 2012, 21:56
I believe that's possible on a ko3 setup yea, Mylo on SSS has done that on his cupra. It's not 63mm, but on a ko3S it'd be fine, and save you any custom fab.
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: ReDBull on 09 August 2012, 22:43
This arrived today so I'll be hopefully fitting mine soon
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/363bcf2d.jpg)
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: ReadieeVTS on 12 August 2012, 16:28
im going for the same setup as prawny but what do i do with the 2 pipes that connect.upto the standard charge pipe???

cheers
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 17 August 2012, 12:26
Mines now been on since weekend  :wink:
it does feel much better, had some issues fitting and when I say issues, it sits much lower due to the aircon rad, the pipes on mine inlet/outlet to the IC are roughly where the valance was (I say was because I had to do some serious chopping) I am now looking into the measurements of an R32 style bumper to see if it hides the pipework
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: jamie1989 on 17 August 2012, 13:06
Any pics  :cool:
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: Prawny on 17 August 2012, 13:11

it does feel much better, had some issues fitting and when I say issues, it sits much lower due to the aircon rad

You did cut the crash bar and slot it up behind didn't you?

I can't see how the aircon rad would ever make it sit lower, only slightly further forward!
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 17 August 2012, 18:23
yeah I did, very little room and I was cautious about cutting too much crash bar away, I may just keep trying to get it better, Luckily its only the bumper and valance I was chopping at as I knew both are getting changed.
I dont know if air con rads are different or mine wasnt moved fully back, but its a VERY close fit (I couldnt get the top as high as yours thats for sure, resulting in it being lower down)

Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: paultownsend on 18 August 2012, 12:30
Dalo. If you dint mind me asking. What power are you running through the k03?
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 18 August 2012, 14:45
It was around 200 but had a sports cat, and sorted loads of pipes since
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: paultownsend on 18 August 2012, 17:13
it will be interesting to see how this intercooler works with a maxed out k03 then  :cool:
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 19 August 2012, 09:49
you mean K03s?
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: paultownsend on 19 August 2012, 23:47
Nope. Your Current k03. Like I have. Be interesting if it changes the boost characteristics and sustains boost
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: jamie1989 on 20 August 2012, 11:39
The same probs.
K03 are very rare to go over 200bhp, K03s ftw
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 20 August 2012, 14:47
It definatley holds the boost better than stock setup, it wont be getting rr though, the K03s is going in and then the stage 2
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: paultownsend on 12 September 2012, 10:57
Dalo

do you have any pics of the install? do the silicone pipes fit behind the normal bumper and vents?
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: ReDBull on 14 September 2012, 19:30
Well just got everything ready for fitting my FMIC tomorrow
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/0C557785-A33C-45D5-8770-9587DC1F4129-535-0000014BB51755A9.jpg)
The plan is the Wellycooler, oil cooler (not the pumbing though), LED side lights and re paint the front Brembos. I'll post up parts list and K04 fitting guild.  :smiley:
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: Wazzzer on 15 September 2012, 10:45
Pics of progress please :afro:
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: ReDBull on 16 September 2012, 20:11
So I've finally got around to fitting my FMIC this weekend. As our cars are slightly different and mines a K04 car. I'm not to sure the differences but I'll post my guild any way. They are copter and pasted from my readers ride. Hope this helps.  :smiley:
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: ReDBull on 16 September 2012, 20:12
As I've been up since 6:15 with the kids I thought I'd post a few photos. I've been reading about FMIC set ups and have decided to go with the Toyosports type B large IC. Known as the Wellycooer due to it's origins in the custom FMIC thread on ASN. I pored a link to ASN earlier in my RR. 
It's a big core 600/300/76mm here it is sat in front of our dishwasher
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/363bcf2d.jpg)
 A link to where you can buy it. I paid £96 delivered. 
http://www.toyosports.co.uk/intercooler-70-c.asp

On to the pipe work. I'm using 45 degree 76/63 mm silicone reducers either side from core. 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/08E8DA8F-5121-438A-9B5A-1018C48BE347-378-00000054B468A501.jpg)
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=290362072607&index=3&nav=SEARCH&nid=02221114485

Then 90 deg 63mm alloy beaded joiners (or I would be if I hadn't been sent stainless ones!!!)
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/ABA90E21-1AF6-4016-AC81-656C6124FFF9-378-00000054BB99893E.jpg)
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=270865713881&index=0&nav=SEARCH&nid=83301232105

Then 90 deg 63 mm silicone hose which then joins up     to the plastic map pipe on the passenger side. 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/E3FFE604-B52F-48D6-9B7B-02D3417932B2-378-00000054C3382361.jpg)
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=160786524988&index=15&nav=SEARCH&nid=14320667086

To join up with the top turbo hose from the charge pipe you'll need a 63 mm short alloy joiner. 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/F5A56146-D409-4A51-AE71-F2E1878983F4-378-0000005555AEC83C.jpg)
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=160516793157&index=2&nav=SEARCH&nid=62645597597

That's all the parts you'll need other that jubilee clips. I've avoided the T bar type clips as a few people have recommended not using them.  As there easy to over tighten and cause boost leaks by bending the alloy joiners.  But each to there own. Thanks to Dad I didn't  have to buy jubilee clips.

As I still have the original top turbo hoses. I've divided to replace the one from the charge pipe with a 45 deg 63 mm alloy joiner and a 45 deg 63mm silicone hose
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/9FF8D549-9AF9-4035-B5CA-B3B6CE313A80-378-00000054C9A54B94.jpg)
You can buy these also from Mr Silicon. 

The pipe work
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/B6BA3C7D-6672-4E88-9B77-3B0A359F9E2F-378-00000054A50E63CE.jpg)

The driver side pipe work. 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/A6BDFBDD-A852-4127-8B49-18DB8B0BEA37-378-00000055D27C7E70.jpg)

The passenger side pipe work. 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/6A586F41-D260-4BD5-8647-DFF9DF0F017E-378-0000005609BA9FEC.jpg)

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/E66E9E5C-5895-4D3E-A1A6-D97C5F481AFD-378-00000055E3D767D1.jpg)

So that's the pipe work. Next was trimming the body work to get the core to fit as far back as possible....

Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: ReDBull on 16 September 2012, 20:14
Next up was getting the core to fit and making beakers. Thanks to Dad doing this part. 

A before photo
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/94575E27-1916-419D-B188-3B9EB6319C78-378-000000559DE15290.jpg)

We spent a bit of time looking things over to decide ow to get the core to fit as far back as possible. We winter to do this to reduce the amount that needs to be trimmed from the bumper bar, bumper and hopefully allow re fitting of the fog lights. 

Marked up ready for cutting
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/73D24ACC-0F16-4224-8A18-F22260C04044-378-00000055CD09C2E4.jpg)

After cutting. My Dad used a thin wheel in the grinder. 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/DE44152A-17C4-4BBF-B57A-1FD7B8E0BEE9-378-00000055DE438652.jpg)

The top of the core fitted nice and close the the air con vad. But the bottom could get closer. So a little more trimming was needed. 
All marked up. 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/D01A4732-1AE9-4AD0-ADF4-02DCE73BAC7C-378-00000055E91F69A8.jpg)

Then painted the bear metal
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/140628E8-C6F2-4415-8E6D-C8940A01D835-378-000000561CAF5E92.jpg)

It fits nice and close now. About as far back as the core could go. 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/D3DDBAB9-3BFA-4E9A-9D27-2D7081467C0D-378-000000561757B541.jpg)

Next up was making so beakers for the bottom of the core. Dad used 6 mm aluminium bar. 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/EA768197-78C4-4EFB-A8B8-E44EEC9D4E1A-378-000000565EB05E0F.jpg)

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/D33E92FF-473F-43D9-A33B-836A61D4F8A0-378-0000005650A9683F.jpg)

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/4E0AF2D3-F431-44FE-BFC8-B31F1528E370-378-00000056655B6ABB.jpg)

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/3F463F56-776D-498F-8788-03454273DECD-378-000000567DB2B086.jpg)

Then it was the top brackets. 
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: ReDBull on 16 September 2012, 20:16
So while my Dad was sorting out the brakets and the driver side wheel was off. I re sprayed the driver side Brembo. They where in a mess. 

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/339AE9C3-8357-468A-B7CE-7CD8076C5131-378-00000056727888F1.jpg)

I went a little OTT with the masking!
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/B94811A6-DD49-4BBA-8964-18E6CB4D021A-378-00000056112CA0C5.jpg)

After six coats for heat proof red pain I bought from eBay. Unfortunately I forgot to bring the Brembo stickers with me.
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/F1E96627-B954-43AD-8326-94FB9F6FBFF8-378-0000005684187DF2.jpg)

At this point the beer had begun to flow and dinner was ready. So I forgot to get photos of the top brackets! But here's a side on photo with out Olivia in the way.

http://s594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/?action=view&current=EBB5D0F3-66E5-4DEA-B12C-79093D4CF4B6-378-000000569092AA64.jpg

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/EBB5D0F3-66E5-4DEA-B12C-79093D4CF4B6-378-000000569092AA64.jpg)

Mums just cooked a fry up (with black pudding to!!!!) so we'll be back to work soon. I'll keep you posted on progress. 



Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: ReDBull on 16 September 2012, 20:18
For relocating the horn I used the mounting point for the passenger side, side mount intercooler. 

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/EBB5D0F3-66E5-4DEA-B12C-79093D4CF4B6-378-000000569092AA64.jpg)

Brackets for the top of the core. 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/35C849B6-8197-49E0-91C4-6DE3ACD33FB4-211-0000001255D65789.jpg)

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/8A914FBA-1EED-4E10-9FDC-810C7253A299-211-000000124E631F96.jpg)

Top of the bumper bar marked off
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/789B0EFE-C109-49C0-B355-19D0FFE0B492-211-0000001260E41243.jpg)

Bottom of the bumper bar
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/BB0BAB42-E9E9-4793-B3CC-39A84BAFB988-211-000000126880FD55.jpg)

This is how much was removed. 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/12CA9BD4-A509-43F4-B49F-F4FE2ABB8ED1-211-0000001271071412.jpg)

And fitted. 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/3288CB57-68F9-4F30-B554-7A892129D537-211-000000128BAE903B.jpg)

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/1A85D03F-116C-4A46-A8FB-12FABBC68FF2-211-00000012801B53B5.jpg)

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/D8580440-B53B-481B-BE2B-59216655F3EB-211-0000001285ED2DA3.jpg)

This is the brake pain I used. Drys very quickly and is good up to 650 C. Bought from eBay 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/8177D00D-6ADF-4581-B538-04A35B665627-211-0000001247460E93.jpg)

The jubilee clips used
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/198D32FD-0246-4BCC-B6BF-9D2AD0F2AF24-211-000000125BD31E1C.jpg)

As we decided to used the rubber air deflector at the bottom of the IC. Everything is a little hight than on other set ups. This means that I won't be able to mount the oil cooler on top of the crash bar. So its going in place of the drivers side side mount IC. Also it means the 45 deg 76/63 mm reducer goes  partly over the thread for the towing eye. I can get the hook on but I wouldn't want to drive a track day like that so I'll buy and fit a strap.
 I'm very pleased with the set up. Just need to fit the oil cooler and re fit the bumper. I've also painted the passenger side Brembo. 

Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: ReDBull on 16 September 2012, 20:20
The photo of the horn mounting was the wrong one I'm sure you guess that. 
Here it is. 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/C4D4B80D-7D1D-4B12-8A81-554EE4EFC7A5-211-000000123671D1DB.jpg)

So it's all fitted and I'm back home. I'll post up the rest of the photos later as photobucket is not playing again. Unfortunately there was zero chance of re fitting the fogs so they've been bined. There was a far bit of bumper trimming needed. Mainly the plastic to channel air to the side mounts. Also the temp sensor had to be moved. 
So initial impresions on the test drive. Even driving in traffic at 30 the throttle respons is much improved. The first time I came to a nation speed limit sign. Again much quicker spool of the turbo. When my Dad asked me what does it feel like I replied that the car feels lighter lol. So yes more torque more power. The delivery is much smoother and it pulls harder high in the rev range. 
Driving home on the motorway crusing at 70 in sixth touch the throttle again it more responsive and pulls harder. Then driving down the A15 over taking slow traffic was it ecelleration is stronger and much smoother. I hope this makes sense as I'm tired and need a shower. 
A big thanks to my Dad. I really enjoyed fitting the FMIC. If you're thinking about fitting one have a good read of all the treads on fitting and go for it. It's one of the best £200 you'll spend. 


Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: jamie1989 on 17 September 2012, 14:30
Awsome write up mate
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: ReDBull on 17 September 2012, 18:15
Awsome write up mate

Thanks it really has made a big difference to the car and I really enjoyed fitting it!

Well that's two new Goodyear Aysemtric 2's order from Etyers. They'll be fitted tomorrow. If you've not tried  etyres give them a go you.  Order one day they fit at a time and place that suits you the next. Always turn up on time as well!
Ok last few photos. 
This is what we had to remove from the inside of the bumper. 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/70A84A90-B9FB-4C48-9EC1-065BD717CDD3-106-0000011A36773797.jpg)
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/3ACD3FC5-7895-4B7B-BE66-574CC8C1EA5B-106-0000011A4005222E.jpg)
I'll get a few shots of the with the bumper on tonight as I forgot yesterday. 
I'm really looking forward to getting new Tyres and brakes fitted. 

As I noticed this when the wheels came off!
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/7E8A9A6F-0970-4D4E-B6DC-2037DAD5583F-378-0000005677D19210.jpg)
I blame it on the diff....
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: ReDBull on 17 September 2012, 18:16
Time for some photos with the bumper on. 
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/D4858FA5-85C7-4D77-A2DA-C48991222571-126-0000000A3E5A49B1.jpg)
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/C1F877C6-4913-4B89-8E87-CA3CDC29E58E-126-0000000B167EE905.jpg)
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/332A599C-6F68-482D-AF8D-6A0CCBDED975-126-0000000A48247C95.jpg)
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/19743BFC-6E0F-405C-827F-190B7E905B7C-126-0000000B0F89EE2B.jpg)

The photos aren't great as it's dull out and there're taken on my iPhone. Evern though I did spray it black it still doesn't stand out to much. It's obvious if you now what a FMIC looks look but doesn't stand out. I forgot to mention that we also needed to trim the fog light grills slightly. 
Also the oil cooler fitting is a job for another day as we ran out of time. It's going to be mounted in place of the drivers side SMIC. Looking forward to getting the new Tyres fitted so I can go for a proper drive!
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: paultownsend on 18 September 2012, 21:06
i bow down to you sir.
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: paultownsend on 21 September 2012, 18:52
That cooler is Great for a ko4, but for my measly hairdryer ko3, what size cooler is recommended?
I want to keep the lag away......
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: paultownsend on 27 October 2012, 15:38
i was just reading this thread on ASN
http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a3-s3-forum-8l-chassis/156049-fmic-setup-a3-8l-correct-not.html

which i believe Prawn, you advised also.

as im sticking with a k03, i wanted to use a small er cooler

http://www.toyosports.co.uk/fmic-ffront-mount-turbo-intercooler-type-s-550x140x65mm-5999-605-p.asp

instead of using a pair of 76-63  90 degree reducer, would i be able to use a pair of 90' 63mm hoses? (the above cooler isnt as wide)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/63mm-2-1-2-ID-90-Degree-Elbow-Silicone-Hose-Red-Bend-/140306985449?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item20aaf2b1e9

i will then run a cold side DV and ATP quick tap for the n75

any help would be great :cool:
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: pickles on 21 January 2013, 12:07
any info on what happens with the N75 valve ie quick taps or whatevers used, i assume the DV relocation is necessary?
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: mar_k on 02 September 2013, 20:47
Just buying the parts of ash hose for an install on an AUM,
has anyone got a link to the pipe that houses the MAP sensor?
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: Nino on 05 October 2013, 01:37
What you ment to do with the pipes that connect to the standard charge pipe?!!!?  :huh:
Title: Re: FMIC choices and how to guide
Post by: Kruga on 13 July 2014, 12:08
Would like to fit a wellycooler to my agu, do i just follow prawnys guide or will i need some different pipe work?
thanks