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Offline Exonian

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Who's put a Stage 1 on a Clubsport?
« on: 16 September 2017, 14:32 »
No, I'm not going to do it.
No, I'm not going to do it.

Just out of curiosity, who has put a Stage 1 on their ED40 Clubsport? I know there are a few knocking around out there.

I tried Stage 1 on my GTI PP and it was pretty good but it did suffer from the inevitable wheelspin.
I tried Stage 1 on my R and loved the extra torque so much that I almost never took the car over 4000 rpm which was a bit of a waste of a good engine, however I valued my licence too much. Incidentally I actually found the R more fun once I removed the map as I found I used the engine revs more.

I'd be very reluctant to mess up the excellence of the standard Clubsport chassis and engine combo in a car that's used solely for road use.
But I'm curious.

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Re: Who's put a Stage 1 on a Clubsport?
« Reply #1 on: 16 September 2017, 15:48 »
I'll give it 2 week :grin:

Anyone want to open a book on the time it takes? :whistle:
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Re: Who's put a Stage 1 on a Clubsport?
« Reply #2 on: 17 September 2017, 07:52 »
G.
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Re: Who's put a Stage 1 on a Clubsport?
« Reply #3 on: 17 September 2017, 08:49 »
Just out of curiosity, does the jb4 add 40bhp to the 265 and 40bhp to the overboost 295?  Or can you programme it to get 335bhp all the time?

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Re: Who's put a Stage 1 on a Clubsport?
« Reply #4 on: 17 September 2017, 09:44 »
Run a JB1 on mine for over a year now and although not hitting full remap figures i am quite happy with what it offers vs cost. The chassis is more than capable to handle the extra power, handling is unaffected but there is noticeable more wheelspin in low gears - you will need better tires or you'll start missing the R...  The JB4 is an even better product as it's said to be even more linear in its delivery and able to maintain the higher boost for a bit more at the end of the rev range due to access to the AFR so you can extract another 5-10bhp probably according to Burger's measurements. Only reason I haven't upgraded to it yet is it's a PITA to connect in and out and I still make dealer visits that require removal. JB1 is a 10min job.

Paul, where did you find the 40bhp figure? I'm pretty sure that's rather low even for the JB1, couple of dyno's I've seen show between 50-60 and JB4 adds a bit more to that (although random dyno values don't make much sense).

Re the overboost: With the JB1 you get 50-60bhp over what the car makes by default with over/under-boost limitation in mind. If you're in 1st or 2nd that's roughly 320-330, if you're 3rd+ (overboost on) that's more like 340-350bhp (for 10" of full throttle, but lift off resets it and you have another 10", mostly theoretical worry though).
JB4 has one mode where it can target specific absolute pressure (instead of adding boost to the car like the JB1). That way it is possible to make close to 360 in all gears and for as long as requested.
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Re: Who's put a Stage 1 on a Clubsport?
« Reply #5 on: 17 September 2017, 09:53 »
Would the VWR air box make a difference on a CS or CSS without a remap?
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Re: Who's put a Stage 1 on a Clubsport?
« Reply #6 on: 17 September 2017, 10:20 »
To Trev's point, after researching the best method.
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Re: Who's put a Stage 1 on a Clubsport?
« Reply #7 on: 17 September 2017, 10:37 »
Thanks for the replies :afro:

I'm glad you lads running JB1/4 replied as that's what I had on my R and was unsure of how it would work with the overboost and therefore what settings it would have to be run with to prevent over-overboosting.
I do like to try different products when I buy different cars (even though they're all practically the same car in my case) but the JB1 had a lot going for it and the JB4 more so.
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Re: Who's put a Stage 1 on a Clubsport?
« Reply #8 on: 17 September 2017, 11:37 »
Yes, thanks for the replies.  It just a shame that the bottom of the engine plug is such a pain to put on and take off.  I did ask George if they would consider doing some sort of loom extension to move this plug to higher up the engine so it could be accessed from the top.  He did say someone did do them, but he thought they'd stopped due to costs and lack of take up.

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Re: Who's put a Stage 1 on a Clubsport?
« Reply #9 on: 17 September 2017, 11:39 »
I agree Trev, that plug is a pain. I could reach it from the top on the GTI but no chance on the ED40.
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