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Golf mk8 / Re: Is the hot hatch dead?
« Last post by fredgroves on 27 March 2024, 16:41 »
My guess... the last of the ICE cars, particularly something like a 8.5 R will hold their value as we plunge into the abyss of the ICE ban.

I'd say an end of era ICE car will REALLY hold its value for a good few years once 2030 hits...

Until either its a tatty nail or they start on the next phase of the Co2 war by raising petrol prices rapidly to make you quit...and they definitely will. It won't be that you can't obtain petrol, it will just mean you can't afford it.
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Golf mk8 / Re: What have you done to your mk8 today?
« Last post by fredgroves on 27 March 2024, 16:37 »
Picked up my second MK8 yesterday. A MK8 R Performance Pack with DCC. Hope it lasts longer than my ED45, which lasted about 2 months before selling it on and keeping my ED40. I think the ED40 will be finding a new home this time round.

Love the traction and the true manual shifting in special mode. Feels quicker than the ED45 and the S005 tyres are far better than the S001!

Should feel quite a bit faster than the ED45... the wonders of AWD!

And yes S005 is not the BS we got from BS on the 001's. Definitely not appalling the S005.
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Golf mk8 / Re: Is the hot hatch dead?
« Last post by Hertsman on 27 March 2024, 16:33 »
Agreed Fred, it’s just a marketing thing.

Method:
 R = top of the range, therefore justifying the extortionate prices that those that habitually buy “top of the range” products will pay pandering to their own vanity.
VW will continue to market a GTI in the form of a FWD smaller ID. model which is constantly being touted on fanboy officially sanctioned social media accounts. The smaller ID. GTI should appeal more to those that take into consideration the points raised in previous posts in this thread - traffic, road conditions, costs etc.


Result:
ID. R = Flabby 4wd 2 tonne rocket ships with every known luxury gadget
ID. GTI = aimed at those with a more realistic perception of value, a slight twinkle in their eye and don’t have an obsession with squishy door cards.

Conclusion:
Keep hold of your late model 7.5 until it falls apart.

Think could be tempted into a MK 8.5 R to keep the ICE thing going just that little bit longer from the MK 7.5, so what's that in timing? Lets say 4-5 years down the line when their prices have moderated from the ridiculous, maybe :)

But quite like the MK 8.5 changes and if its proven the software issues have been eradicated, be nice to actually experience the drive of the MK 8 which everyone seems to state is its strength.

My 128Ti minor let down is its drive and handling at B road level, and as months have worn on, its definitely take edge off what is otherwise been a good experience, so the drive and ride is pretty important, lets hope VW remember that when the EV finally take over the world, as its going to be some dull journeys being had for everyone, aside from excitement of where to charge next :)

My 128Ti has 18 months to run on lease, and then we will be running two 2019 plate Golf R imagine, wife's present is in stormtrooper guise so be looking for something different for mine, Indium Grey or Lapiz with black Pretoria's, maybe might drop back a year for 2018 to get 3 Door?

Hopefully prices will have moderated to sub £20k for good example being it will be 6 year old car by time i am searching.
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Golf mk8 / Re: What have you done to your mk8 today?
« Last post by Exonian on 27 March 2024, 15:59 »
PS, get some photos up!
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Golf mk8 / Re: What have you done to your mk8 today?
« Last post by Exonian on 27 March 2024, 15:58 »
Congrats Paul70  :smiley:
And yes, I’ve surprised myself by not hating the S005’s too!

Oh, and unless absolutely necessary, don’t sell the Ed40, you’ll regret it.
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Golf mk8 / Re: Is the hot hatch dead?
« Last post by Exonian on 27 March 2024, 15:55 »
Agreed Fred, it’s just a marketing thing.

Method:
 R = top of the range, therefore justifying the extortionate prices that those that habitually buy “top of the range” products will pay pandering to their own vanity.
VW will continue to market a GTI in the form of a FWD smaller ID. model which is constantly being touted on fanboy officially sanctioned social media accounts. The smaller ID. GTI should appeal more to those that take into consideration the points raised in previous posts in this thread - traffic, road conditions, costs etc.


Result:
ID. R = Flabby 4wd 2 tonne rocket ships with every known luxury gadget
ID. GTI = aimed at those with a more realistic perception of value, a slight twinkle in their eye and don’t have an obsession with squishy door cards.

Conclusion:
Keep hold of your late model 7.5 until it falls apart.



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Golf mk8 / Re: Is the hot hatch dead?
« Last post by fredgroves on 27 March 2024, 14:11 »
https://www.motor1.com/news/713819/volkswagen-r-independent-brand/

I wonder what this will add to the mix? Will there just be one "hot hatch" in the form of an R for the enthusiasts, rather than the options currently available in the range (R, GTI etc)?

Think of the split between SEAT and Cupra.... its that.

Cupra also will end its ICE models... because VAG HQ tells them to.

Just more marketing BS tbh.
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Golf mk8 / Re: Is the hot hatch dead?
« Last post by jh_97 on 27 March 2024, 13:08 »
https://www.motor1.com/news/713819/volkswagen-r-independent-brand/

I wonder what this will add to the mix? Will there just be one "hot hatch" in the form of an R for the enthusiasts, rather than the options currently available in the range (R, GTI etc)?
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Golf mk7 / Re: Oh deer
« Last post by P6GTD on 27 March 2024, 12:36 »
How are you getting on?
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Golf mk8 / Re: What have you done to your mk8 today?
« Last post by Paul70 on 27 March 2024, 12:23 »
Picked up my second MK8 yesterday. A MK8 R Performance Pack with DCC. Hope it lasts longer than my ED45, which lasted about 2 months before selling it on and keeping my ED40. I think the ED40 will be finding a new home this time round.

Love the traction and the true manual shifting in special mode. Feels quicker than the ED45 and the S005 tyres are far better than the S001!
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