PP Retrofit

[golf nutter]

have done a quick search but couldnt find the answer...will a dealer do a retrofit of the PP on an older non-PP car?  or is it even worth going down that particular rabbit hole?

[fredgroves]

have done a quick search but couldnt find the answer...will a dealer do a retrofit of the PP on an older non-PP car?  or is it even worth going down that particular rabbit hole?

A dealer? I'd doubt it.

So the parts list would be:

front brake discs and calipers (?)
Some sort of mediocre sub stage 1 tune

Think that's the only difference.

You'd need to tell your insurer and at the end of it have not a lot more to show for it if you match PP spec.

If you wanted to go down that route, I think you'd be better off with a proper stage 1 tune and a proper performance brake kit - including lines etc. The insurance bill will be the same as will probably the parts and labour!

[Guzzle]

There's the diff too. 

Save yourself a fortune, just stick a red GTi badge on and pretend 

[buddfridge]

+ slip diff.

[buddfridge]

There's the diff too. 

Save yourself a fortune, just stick a red GTi badge on and pretend 


Lol that was quick, while I was typing

[fredgroves]

Oh yes the diff thingy.

Not sure what the options are there, I am certain someone makes a third party one of those too and that probably outperforms the VW OEM one.

[Watts]

I'd suggest to not bother, it'll cost a fortune because of the diff. Someone on here fitted black vinyl inserts on the GTI badges which looked good. The extra power of the PP is mostly due to the extra weight of the diff so yours will likely go just as well 90% of the time and in every day driving 100% of the time. If you wanted to spend a reasonable amount then get the PP front brakes, a SH set will probably be quite cheap and fit vented rear discs. The GTI badge on the calipers does look good

[fredgroves]

This is the proper LSD I was think of:

https://shop.quaife.co.uk/vag-2wd-dsg-20t-quaife-atb-helical-lsd-differential

Lighter and higher performance than the VW PP one.

As I said earlier, with some proper performance parts its almost certainly cheaper than going matching the PP build and the insurance company won't hate you any more because even OEM parts are "modifications" and they don't care exactly what it is you have done - might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.

[mcmaddy]

That site says it's a direct replacement Fred so maybe pp engine/gearbox are different to standard ones ??

[golfdave]

have done a quick search but couldnt find the answer...will a dealer do a retrofit of the PP on an older non-PP car?  or is it even worth going down that particular rabbit hole?

You would require the following parts from the PP/R:
1. front 340mm brake discs/& 60mm calipers
2. bigger rear vented brake discs 310 x 22mm
3. bigger brake servo/master cylinder


Then fit & wire in a new loom for the PP "Diff" which is NOT a "diff" or LSD"...but a VAQ unit..which is bolted onto the drivers side driveshaft after the existing open diff in the gearbox..

& finally loads of VCDS coding in the braking, ecu & other modules to tell the cars safety & stability systems what other electronics it now has!

Better of fitting either Audi TT-S (ATE) 4pots & 340mm discs (straight bolt on to the front) or the Porsche Macan Brembo 4pots & 345mm Mk6 R discs, stage one tune & a Wavetrak diff in place of the existing open diff...& a better clutch whilst the gearbox is open..