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General => Detailing => Topic started by: boneybradley on 24 February 2008, 19:41
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Right as i'm lazy and dont properly clean the car very often..I have the following question
I currently use meg's 3 stage products and then use a paint sealer on top of this (some made by carplan i believe) .. I am now noticing the paint has started to go dull and was wondering if claying and using a better wax will restore the clean shiney look.
I have looked at some products and would also like to know in sonus green clay better than meg's and wether using collinite as listed on another thread will give superior results to meg gold class or nx.
I get some good discount on megs products (and thats why i use them now) and wonder if the other products worth more cash!!
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get the Sonus Green Clay and use the Megs Quik Detailer.
you can continue to use the Megs wax but if you want durability i'd go for Collinte 915; got it on my car and its awesome; well worth the £20 for a pot
Clay
Polish
Seal
Wax
Job done :afro:
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do you seal before wax?? and the 3 stage megs wax has being stated as pooro i am willing to give others a go and will search the net for the collinite
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yeah you seal before waxing
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=66113.0
and here's where to find the Collinite :afro:
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=186
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Ive just spent £50+ on four things, all reccomended by you guys..so I hope they are good!
I don't think I've ever spent that much on cleaning stuff for the car before in one go.. :grin:
Dinx :kiss:
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Ive just spent £50+ on four things, all reccomended by you guys..so I hope they are good!
I don't think I've ever spent that much on cleaning stuff for the car before in one go.. :grin:
Dinx :kiss:
i know i have now just bought.... collinite 915 £18 delivered!! sonus clay £8 delivered!! quick detailer for the clay £8 delivered!! and cloths and pads etc £18 plus delivery £6 is £58... on polish... its bread and water for the rest of the week for me!
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ahaha...i went for collinite, have thought about it for a while tbh..needed a new mitt, sealant and a big drying towel...
I want some sno-foam too!!!!
Dinx :kiss:
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whats sno-foam??..... I've just got into using 2 buckets!! and don't tell me my autoglym cheap stuff is crap for washing??
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your auto glym cheap stuff is crap for washing!! :grin:
hope you're using a mitt btw?
bilt hambler auto wash is the muttz nutz... you only need 5ml per wash!
as for megs and clays etc... megs clay breaks up and I prefer sonus green
the collinite 915 is a great wax... but i found it produced a much nicer result when I used the collinite 845 sealant first
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=26&products_id=113 (http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=26&products_id=113)
collinite is quite hardwearing too... the jetseal 109 really is good even though it is all the rage at the moment.. combine that with the chemical guys 50/50 wax and you get
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2211/2253904968_0c58a36f92.jpg)
and snow foam... is an attachment if you have a pressure washer which you can use to cover your car in luvvely suds! :laugh:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2261/2155498149_ecb9f72969.jpg)
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^yup...thats what i wanna do!!
I thought the actual "suds" were called sno-foam?
I only want to make it look white..
would it be ok on the mohair?
Dinx :kiss:
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yep you are right Di but you also need a snow foam gun...
you can get both in this deal... I would have them but I don't have a hose! :cry:
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=34&products_id=188 (http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=34&products_id=188)
good question on the mohair... I would hesitate a guess at yes... do you use normal car shampoop on it?
why not do paintwork with snow foam and a specialist soft top cleaner like renovo?
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/index.php?manufacturers_id=28 (http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/index.php?manufacturers_id=28)
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yeah well i have a gun.. :grin:
Ok...so which is for a mohair then?
Currently just using the autoglym stuff on the roof...
Dinx :kiss:
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yeah well i have a gun.. :grin:
Ok...so which is for a mohair then?
Currently just using the autoglym stuff on the roof...
Dinx :kiss:
erm... dunno... best you ask Alex or Alexandra at Elite... they will be able to tell you?!
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yeah well i have a gun.. :grin:
Ok...so which is for a mohair then?
Currently just using the autoglym stuff on the roof...
Dinx :kiss:
Hi
I would stay away from snow foam on Mohair because most snow foams have an element of TFR (traffic film remover) in them. TFR could over time start to bleach or fade the colour out of your hood.
Don't forget when using snow foam it gives best results if left to dwell on the car for 10-15 minutes.
I would use Snow foam on the lower half and if the hood needs a clean from time to time a regular ph neutral shampoo or branded product made for cleaning the hood.
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knew you'd have the answer Mark... well I was half right?! :undecided:
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yeah well i have a gun.. :grin:
Ok...so which is for a mohair then?
Currently just using the autoglym stuff on the roof...
Dinx :kiss:
Hi
I would stay away from snow foam on Mohair because most snow foams have an element of TFR (traffic film remover) in them. TFR could over time start to bleach or fade the colour out of your hood.
Don't forget when using snow foam it gives best results if left to dwell on the car for 10-15 minutes.
I would use Snow foam on the lower half and if the hood needs a clean from time to time a regular ph neutral shampoo or branded product made for cleaning the hood.
cheers darl...pleased to have it confirmed.. :smiley:
I just wanted it look as good as all the others...suppose ill have to buy a tin top.. :tongue:
Dinx :kiss:
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why? yours looks lovely :cool:
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no..i meant like covered in the sno stuff...that just looks cool!
But ty for your compliment hunny.. :kiss:
Dinx :kiss:
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well i don't have a snow foam gun... yet!! :laugh:
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knew you'd have the answer Mark... well I was half right?! :undecided:
I think you were completely right - simply saying ask at Elite is better than a wild guess :smiley:
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well i clayed and polished and sealed and then waxed.... here some results!
first thing today it was like this
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/nataliyas/DSCN4223.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/nataliyas/DSCN4224.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/nataliyas/DSCN4225.jpg)
after washing and claying the paint starts to look better and smoother
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/nataliyas/DSCN4238.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/nataliyas/DSCN4239.jpg)
and then she got poished,sealed and then waxed with collinite to give results like this
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/nataliyas/DSCN4242.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/nataliyas/DSCN4241.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/nataliyas/DSCN4243.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/nataliyas/DSCN4250.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/nataliyas/DSCN4248.jpg)
oh and i refitted the original badged grill...
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Oh you make me feel bad...I just cant be @rsed to do mine as not very well but now you make me wanna go do it.. :sad:
anyone want to volunteer? I make excellent food and will supply tea or beer.. :laugh:
Dinx :kiss:
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Looks a hell of alot better, especially with the grill... good stuff :wink: :cool:
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:afro: super job boney :cool: :cool: :cool:
bet you're pleased with the results... looks sooo much better and the 50/50 shots are just ace - can really see the dfinition in the reflections
money well spent i'd say?
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Nice work bradders.. Great minds think alike :cool:
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After spending saturday making the outside look good...I spent an hour cleaning under the bonnet after seeing what kells has done to his! just need to paint the rocker cover and clean some other bits (like the bonnet catch etc)
After buying the new wax I thought I would put my meguires stage 1 cleaner and stage 3 wax to good use and used this on the metal parts and then autoglym bumpered the plastics...I like the results :cool: even the underside of the bonnet shines now!
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/nataliyas/DSCN4251.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/nataliyas/DSCN4252.jpg)
and Di no excuses for not sorting yours now! :smug:
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Oh you make me feel bad...I just cant be @rsed to do mine as not very well but now you make me wanna go do it.. :sad:
anyone want to volunteer? I make excellent food and will supply tea or beer.. :laugh:
Dinx :kiss:
Di
If you weren't so far away I would offer to do it for you - Wiltshire to the North East, just a little to far even for me!
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yes thanks Bradley... :rolleyes:
awww...Thanks darl, but I really do need to get my finger out and get started on it..
including all the maintenance bits before shes on the road..
Looking good thou Bradley :afro:
Dinx :kiss:
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Microfibre Cloths Quantity 3 cloths £3.98
Sonus Der Wunder Drying Towel, Pkg/2 £16.95
Eurow 100% Sheepskin Wash Mitt with Interior Rubber Glove £6.79
Poorboy's Super Slick & Suds Concentrated Car Wash - 32oz £11.95
Collinite #915 Marque D'Elegance Detailing Kit £24.95
Sonus Green Ultra Fine Detailing Clay - Quantity 1 bar £6.99
Autoglym Super Resin Polish - 500ml £9.99
2 buckets...
Is there anything on there i DONT need? i.e like a mortgage!! :sick:
It will be to clean Black Magic :cool:
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yep... drop the extra microfibre cloths... you will get those in the collinite kit
you can drop the AG super resin polish as you are claying and then waxing... AG super resin polish is also very harsh and can cause swirls
you can change the poorboys super slick suds to bilt hambler - best shampoop i have used so far!
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=57&products_id=421 (http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=57&products_id=421)
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yep... drop the extra microfibre cloths... you will get those in the collinite kit
you can drop the AG super resin polish as you are claying and then waxing... AG super resin polish is also very harsh and can cause swirls
you can change the poorboys super slick suds to bilt hambler - best shampoop i have used so far!
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=57&products_id=421 (http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=57&products_id=421)
Some sort of polish would be a good idea as the wax layer is simply there to protect the polished surface and in some cases enhance the finish achieved through polishing. Wax on its own after clay will produce a better finish than the car has at present although if you miss the polishing stage you might be disappointed in the results. SRP wouldn't be my choice but many people use it with good results - just don't get any on your plastic trim :cry:
If your clay bar doesn't come with lube you will need to buy some.
Mark
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If your clay bar doesn't come with lube you will need to buy some.
Mark
how could I forget the lube!!! :grin:
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If your clay bar doesn't come with lube you will need to buy some.
Mark
how could I forget the lube!!! :grin:
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=319
:wink: lol what kinda lube? :rolleyes:
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you just need something called detailing spray to lubricate the 'clay' as you won't be able to move it over your paintwork otherwise...
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/index.php?cPath=68&page=1 (http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/index.php?cPath=68&page=1)
personally I would use a cheap megs quick detailer such as this http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=68&products_id=36 (http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=68&products_id=36) when i am claying as you will end up using a lot of the bottle... some people dilute the spray 50/50 with water (although I don't do this and IF i did I would use filtered water)
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You can cut down on the amount of lube used by claying the car after it has been washed and before it is dried. i.e. with the rinse water still on it. This method also helps to cut down on the potential for marring the paint.
A mix of good quality shampoo and water in a spray bottle can also be used as lube - just make sure their is enough shampoo in the mix to provide lubrication.
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yep... drop the extra microfibre cloths... you will get those in the collinite kit
you can drop the AG super resin polish as you are claying and then waxing... AG super resin polish is also very harsh and can cause swirls
you can change the poorboys super slick suds to bilt hambler - best shampoop i have used so far!
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=57&products_id=421 (http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=57&products_id=421)
Some sort of polish would be a good idea as the wax layer is simply there to protect the polished surface and in some cases enhance the finish achieved through polishing. Wax on its own after clay will produce a better finish than the car has at present although if you miss the polishing stage you might be disappointed in the results. SRP wouldn't be my choice but many people use it with good results - just don't get any on your plastic trim :cry:
If your clay bar doesn't come with lube you will need to buy some.
Mark
Ok cheers for the help with this. :smiley:
This is what i've just ordered :laugh:
Autowash x 1
Eurow 100% Sheepskin Wash Mitt with Interior Rubber Glove x 1
Eurow X Large Waffle Weave Microfibre Drying Towel - 26" x 36" x 1
Collinite #915 Marque D'Elegance Detailing Kit x 1
Sonus Green Ultra Fine Detailing Clay x 1
Didn't know which polish and sealant to go for, i looked at the jetseal109 and collinite sealant kit, But money getting tight :rolleyes: thought i'd try this:
Klasse All In One Polish & Sealant 300ml :tongue:
total in pounds :shocked: £67.16 :smug:
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Klasse make some very good products which were very much the in thing about 12-18 months ago - You'll be fine with your choice.