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Title: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: evo1986 on 20 April 2017, 08:57
The third wave of engines for the new Golf will open for ordering a week earlier than originally planned.

The following models will open for ordering on Thursday 27 April and will only be built as model year 2018 (MY18):

GTI Performance
5 150PS TSI EVO engine (on Golf Hatch GT/R-Line and Golf Estate GT)

This model will open for ordering in early May:

e-Golf
The final model will open for ordering in mid-June:

5 130PS TSI EVO BlueMotion engine (on Golf Hatch/Estate SE and SE Nav)
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: hog_hedge on 20 April 2017, 09:10
Any news on GTI Performance price?
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: evo1986 on 20 April 2017, 09:59
Nothing confirmed yet, fingers crossed about £1000 extra................
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 20 April 2017, 10:12
Nothing confirmed yet, fingers crossed about £1000 extra................

As a manager in a VW dealership can you comment on the reason why UK GTi and GTD's don't have fog lights? Surely you must know.
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: Daz Auto on 20 April 2017, 10:16
So I can order a GTI Performance next week :huh:

As Abraham Lincoln once said - you should only believe half of what you read on the internet! :rolleyes: :grin:

12 weeks delivery = late July or early August :cool:

Edit: Oh wait - does that mean they won't build them until week 22?
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: evo1986 on 20 April 2017, 10:22
Latest supply update has Golf GTI as 19 week delivery for a manual and 21 weeks for a DSG........



Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: Daz Auto on 20 April 2017, 10:48
Latest supply update has Golf GTI as 19 week delivery for a manual and 21 weeks for a DSG........
Oh well... I guess I should be looking at winter tyres then :rolleyes: :smiley:
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: evo1986 on 20 April 2017, 10:50
Yes beware of the classic over promise and under deliver from dealers who haven't a clue  :wink:

Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: linc-dub on 20 April 2017, 21:34
Nothing confirmed yet, fingers crossed about £1000 extra................

As a manager in a VW dealership can you comment on the reason why UK GTi and GTD's don't have fog lights? Surely you must know.
Can evo1986 also answer why Sport & Sound is not an option on the FL7.5 please?
Sport & Sound + front fog lights make the Mk7 GTD, so it seems a backward step for the FL7.5!
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 20 April 2017, 21:40
Nothing confirmed yet, fingers crossed about £1000 extra................

As a manager in a VW dealership can you comment on the reason why UK GTi and GTD's don't have fog lights? Surely you must know.
Can evo1986 also answer why Sport & Sound is not an option on the FL7.5 please?
Sport & Sound + front fog lights make the Mk7 GTD, so it seems a backward step for the FL7.5!

I'm guessing by the lack of reply to my post before but he answered posts after mine that the answer is, not a clue :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: evo1986 on 20 April 2017, 21:42
I am sure VW uk will update there price lists and apologise soon......

Don't know why sport and sound pack isn't an option yet. It was a really well priced and cool option on MK7 GTD so hopefully it will become an option again soon. However not many people choose it so maybe because of little uptake, I think they should make it standard and just put the price up....
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 20 April 2017, 22:21
I am sure VW uk will update there price lists and apologise soon......

Don't know why sport and sound pack isn't an option yet. It was a really well priced and cool option on MK7 GTD so hopefully it will become an option again soon. However not many people choose it so maybe because of little uptake, I think they should make it standard and just put the price up....

Not many people opted for the sport and sound pack because so many crap salespeople didn't know what it was. I was told myself that it was only red callipers, I told him what it was a he said I was reading too much on the internet. Maybe if 'they' read a bit more about options and what they were they could actually inform coustomers right.

It is funny how quickly a person can be turned away from a brand because the people selling it know jacks!t about what they are supposed to be selling.
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: fredgroves on 20 April 2017, 22:27
I would suggest it's not a case of you "reading too much on the Internet" but actually a case of them not reading enough.

I had a very similar experience...
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: evo1986 on 20 April 2017, 22:30
I couldn't agree more you go to into an apple shop and you know the person you speak to genuinely knows the answers to pretty much everything because they are actually interested in what they sell.

Meanwhile you go into a Volkswagen showroom and you know more than the sales person......we try our best to employ not always the so called best sales person but the people who are actually the most interested in the brand and product.
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: Daz Auto on 20 April 2017, 23:01
Regulars on this forum must be a nightmare for sales people.

The thing is, the average Golf GTI Forum member is not exactly the average car buyer. Most of us could be regarded as performance Golf enthusiasts. My dealer joked with me that he has a good day when he knows the answer to one of my questions. I said I would warn him when to expect me so he could study :grin:
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: eatontrifles on 20 April 2017, 23:18
I'm a Golf noob, but i showed two separate VW sales staff at different dealers how to lock a car with keyless by touching the groove in the handle. Neither knew, and both had told me that you had to use the key fob.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: GTD1414 on 21 April 2017, 08:59
Nothing confirmed yet, fingers crossed about £1000 extra................

As a manager in a VW dealership can you comment on the reason why UK GTi and GTD's don't have fog lights? Surely you must know.
Can evo1986 also answer why Sport & Sound is not an option on the FL7.5 please?
Sport & Sound + front fog lights make the Mk7 GTD, so it seems a backward step for the FL7.5!

Other places (Germany, France + Ireland) I've seen on the GTD configurator you can't spec S&S pack but you can spec red brake calipers. Its even a no-cost option in Ireland!
So why can't the UK get an option for this?  :angry:
Its the little details like this make a car. Even the GTE gets blue painted calipers.


Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: JoeGTI on 21 April 2017, 10:10
I tagged along on a BMW shopping trip recently. The difference between the BMW dealer and the VW dealers was stark.

We had phoned ahead to tell them we were interested in viewing a particular car. When we arrived <1 hour later, the car in question was parked at the door, ready for demo. We were introduced to a "product guy" - basically a BMW-nerd who was able to explain every little detail about the car and we couldn't catch him out on any questions. He had swallowed the product guide  :laugh: That guy took us for a test drive (after explaining how he had kindly left the air-con running for us before we arrived to ensure the car was comfy).

Only when we got back from the test drive did the salesman take over - and again he was very courteous and professional. Knew his stuff inside out.

It was a very enlightening experience (being more used to VW dealers).
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: fredgroves on 21 April 2017, 12:39
I too had a look at BMW and I agree that they are better than VW dealers in terms of slickness and efficiency. They also sell cars starting at the price of my GTD and going to sky high!

I also went to a Kia dealer and a SEAT dealer. Their service was less than VW's, but their car range sells for less.

Anyone seeing a pattern here? ;-)
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 21 April 2017, 20:27
I went to Synter BMW in Coventry before I ordered my GTD and they were crap.
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: linc-dub on 21 April 2017, 20:43
I am sure VW uk will update there price lists and apologise soon......

Don't know why sport and sound pack isn't an option yet. It was a really well priced and cool option on MK7 GTD so hopefully it will become an option again soon. However not many people choose it so maybe because of little uptake, I think they should make it standard and just put the price up....
Evo1986 you are spot on - can you use your inside influence with VW to rectify the situation quickly?  Where would you advise we e-mail to complain to VW UK about their shortcomings?
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: GTI_Ant on 23 April 2017, 01:00
I tagged along on a BMW shopping trip recently. The difference between the BMW dealer and the VW dealers was stark.

We had phoned ahead to tell them we were interested in viewing a particular car. When we arrived <1 hour later, the car in question was parked at the door, ready for demo. We were introduced to a "product guy" - basically a BMW-nerd who was able to explain every little detail about the car and we couldn't catch him out on any questions. He had swallowed the product guide  :laugh: That guy took us for a test drive (after explaining how he had kindly left the air-con running for us before we arrived to ensure the car was comfy).

Only when we got back from the test drive did the salesman take over - and again he was very courteous and professional. Knew his stuff inside out.

It was a very enlightening experience (being more used to VW dealers).

Did he show the indicators working on it?  Apparently all MY 2017 cars are now fitted with indicators as standard, but this could be just a rumour.
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: evo1986 on 23 April 2017, 08:25
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/need-help/about-us/customer-care
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: linc-dub on 26 April 2017, 13:13
Calling all members

go to
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/need-help/about-us/customer-care

and Start a Live Chat conversation about the lack of front fog lights on GTD / GTi's

I've just done that and Mohammed spoke to the Technical Sales Team and gave this response;

If you come back to us in a couple of weeks we may have some positive information regarding front fog lights.  We haven't released anything officially yet, so I'm unable to comment further, but we at expecting some new direct information about the front fog lights being on GTD / GTI's.

So come on guys - people power - get bombarding them for this official news to be released a.s.a.p.
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 26 April 2017, 13:49
Calling all members

go to
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/need-help/about-us/customer-care

and Start a Live Chat conversation about the lack of front fog lights on GTD / GTi's

I've just done that and Mohammed spoke to the Technical Sales Team and gave this response;

If you come back to us in a couple of weeks we may have some positive information regarding front fog lights.  We haven't released anything officially yet, so I'm unable to comment further, but we at expecting some new direct information about the front fog lights being on GTD / GTI's.

So come on guys - people power - get bombarding them for this official news to be released a.s.a.p.

I might wait until later

(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj564/Noghtblue-GTD/EAA34579-8493-4FF3-9433-66DA25F26BB5_zpstvi8ylim.png) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/Noghtblue-GTD/media/EAA34579-8493-4FF3-9433-66DA25F26BB5_zpstvi8ylim.png.html)
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: brown.jamesa on 27 April 2017, 18:24
Anyone managed to order a GTI performance yet?

The deals are already on Drive the Deal, but contacting dealers through carwow, they say its not on the system yet?

Looks like I will have to wait until next week.

 31,105.00    VOLKSWAGEN GOLF HATCHBACK 2.0 TSI 245 GTI PERFORMANCE 5DR DSG
 280.00    Special solid - Tornado red
 95.00    Heat-insulating tinted glass 90%
 1,325.00    Discover Pro DVD nav/radio system (DNS PRO) with Gesture Control
 750.00    Art velours cloth upholstery
 550.00    Dynaudio Excite soundpack
 630.00    Lane assist including Dynamic Light Assist
 265.00    Rear view camera
 295.00    Climate windscreen
 365.00    Keyless entry

 35,660.00 Total RRP

Drive the Deal
 30,310.93  (-5,349.07 = 15.0%)


Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: evo1986 on 28 April 2017, 10:29
Available to order from today and an updated price list will be available on the 3rd of May.

Carwow dealers will be offering the same % of discount as non performance pack models

Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: brown.jamesa on 28 April 2017, 10:32
Cheers for confirming
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: Wish on 28 April 2017, 14:23
Mine was ordered yesterday.

Now the long wait begins.
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: brown.jamesa on 28 April 2017, 14:34
Mine was ordered yesterday.

Now the long wait begins.

Did mine a couple of hours ago  :laugh:

I am right behind you  :smiley:
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: RCMike on 28 April 2017, 20:33
My new order has been changed to a performance pack.
Super happy now - really, really looking forward to it :smiley:
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: Daz Auto on 28 April 2017, 23:46
Now the long wait begins.
My current car took 9 months. 9 months for Mk6 GTD :rolleyes: I seriously hope the GTI Performance will not take that long. However, if it does not arrive until October, I would be tempted to wait until January for registration.  :undecided: ... that would be 8 months :huh:
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 29 April 2017, 08:20
Now the long wait begins.
My current car took 9 months. 9 months for Mk6 GTD :rolleyes: I seriously hope the GTI Performance will not take that long. However, if it does not arrive until October, I would be tempted to wait until January for registration.  :undecided: ... that would be 8 months :huh:

I was going to order/haggle next week but my wife has talked me into looking at a clubsport instead so we are off to look at one today.
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: hog_hedge on 29 April 2017, 10:38
Now the long wait begins.
My current car took 9 months. 9 months for Mk6 GTD :rolleyes: I seriously hope the GTI Performance will not take that long. However, if it does not arrive until October, I would be tempted to wait until January for registration.  :undecided: ... that would be 8 months :huh:

The new reg's start on 1st March so there would be no point in waiting until Jan.
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: Guzzle on 29 April 2017, 11:13
Cars registered at the start of the year can sometimes be valued slightly higher than the same car registered at the end of the previous year.

However some see running a brand new vehicle in the depths of winter as a downside.
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: SRGTD on 29 April 2017, 11:50
My current car took 9 months. 9 months for Mk6 GTD :rolleyes: I seriously hope the GTI Performance will not take that long. However, if it does not arrive until October, I would be tempted to wait until January for registration.  :undecided: ... that would be 8 months :huh:

New builds do seem to be coming through much quicker than they were in 2011 Daz. I seem to remember that there was unprecedented demand for the mk6 GTD at that time, and there were also issues with the supply of DSG gearboxes.

If it does take until Oct for your new car to get to the dealer, why on earth wait another 3 months until January to take delivery? Assuming you plan to keep it for a similar length of time that you've owned your mk6 GTD (6 years?), whether it is registered as an Oct 2017 or Jan 2018 will make little difference (probably £300-£400 at most) to the value when the time comes to sell it in 6 years time, so less than £1.50 a week over your period of ownership.

Where would the dealer store it during those 3 months and what is the risk of it getting damaged while it's in storage at the dealers? If it's kept outside in a compound with the protective wrapping on the roof, bonnet and tailgate, There's still a risk of damage to the paintwork from bird sh!te being left on the uncovered/unprotected parts and etching into the lacquer.

I can understand waiting to take delivery if you're buying rather than leasing or PCP-ing and it arrived within 2-3 weeks of a registration plate change (from 17 to 67), but waiting 3 months when it would still be a 67 plate? I wouldn't, but that's just my opinion.

I too had a long wait for my mk6 GTD (8 months). I took delivery in July 2011 - 6 weeks before registration plate change and had no regrets doing so.
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: Talk-torque on 29 April 2017, 20:47
Available to order from today and an updated price list will be available on the 3rd of May.

Carwow dealers will be offering the same % of discount as non performance pack models

Configurator app is showing a premium of £1,115 for the Performance Pack option with the added 7-speed DSG 'box and £1,360 with the same 6-speed manual. Surely some mistake? Has someone got the two prices the wrong way round?
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: Daz Auto on 29 April 2017, 21:16
Cars registered at the start of the year can sometimes be valued slightly higher than the same car registered at the end of the previous year.

However some see running a brand new vehicle in the depths of winter as a downside.
...this. It would be registered as a 2018 car and only a few months until British Summer Time.

Though if it arrives around October it would be a great time to see if the new Dynamic Lights are any good in the dark evenings.

Either way, it will be a long wait. "Anticipation is nine tenths of delight."
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: jv on 17 May 2017, 16:57
PP specific press release 17/5/17:

Hottest GTI: updated Golf GTI Performance opens for order

Everything in concert: the updated Golf GTI Performance

When the updated Golf GTI was introduced at the start of this year, it had a power increase that brought it in line with the previous Golf GTI Performance. Now the updated Golf GTI Performance model has itself become a more potent proposition thanks to its new output of 245 PS.

With an increase of 15 PS compared to the previous model, today’s GTI Performance model is now the most potent Golf GTI currently available. The power upgrade results in a torque increase of 20 Nm to 370 Nm. This is available in a broad band from 1,600 rpm to 4,300 rpm.

Standstill to 62 mph is reached in just 6.2 seconds, and those figures apply to the six-speed manual as well as the newly developed seven-speed DSG automatic gearbox. The GTI’s top speed is 155 mph in manual form, and 154 mph when equipped with the DSG gearbox.

Larger brake discs, with red-trimmed front calipers, and an electronic front differential add to the compelling dynamic ability of the Golf GTI Performance, which is available to order today, priced from £29,280 (RRP OTR).

Yet it is an ‘everyday’ car too, with five seats and a useful 380-litre boot, or up to 1270 litres of carrying capacity with the rear seats folded. Available in three- or five-door configurations, the new GTI Performance is fitted with Volkswagen’s advanced Active Info Display as standard. This turns the instrument binnacle into a 12.3-inch high-resolution TFT screen to allow the driver to choose from an assortment of potential car and journey information.
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: Exonian on 17 May 2017, 17:31
I'm not going to say it.


Someone else can ask where the pics are this time...


 :whistle:


 :grin:
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: jv on 17 May 2017, 18:00
I'm not going to say it.


Someone else can ask where the pics are this time...


 :whistle:


 :grin:

Says the man who included just two pics in his 50000 word Full House thread  :tongue: :whistle:

<pic>imaginary MK7/7.1/7.5 plastic engine cover image here<pic>
Title: Re: Third wave of New Golf engines confirmed for launch
Post by: Exonian on 17 May 2017, 21:15
I'm not going to say it.


Someone else can ask where the pics are this time...


 :whistle:


 :grin:

Says the man who included just two pics in his 50000 word Full House thread  :tongue: :whistle:

<pic>imaginary MK7/7.1/7.5 plastic engine cover image here<pic>

 :grin:  :kiss:

I went for quality rather then quantity. You couldn't have failed to have been bowled over by my neighbours hanging baskets? The f*****g things have nearly bowled me over a few times in the dark!