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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: adekil on 07 December 2014, 09:23
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I know there has been loooooooots of discussions on tyres but without digging through each post would appreciate what your best tyre selection would be as i've now got agreement from my lease company that the Bridgestones are sh*t and so I can now replace all 4!! :smiley:
Not looking for winter specific or longevity but all year round excellent grip tyres.
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I know there has been loooooooots of discussions on tyres but without digging through each post would appreciate what your best tyre selection would be as i've now got agreement from my lease company that the Bridgestones are sh*t and so I can now replace all 4!! :smiley:
Not looking for winter specific or longevity but all year round excellent grip tyres.
Hi I changed my bridgestones last week to Uniroyal Rainsport 3's. They are excellent in the wet with no tramping (PP GTi) and are as good as the Potenza's in the dry. Very happy with them so far. I recommend them highly. :rolleyes:
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OP: You don't mention which size tyres you require.
Have a look at this link which lists all Summer Tyre Reviews:
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre-Tests/#summer
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Uniroyals are an excellent wet tyre, but at the cost of wearing quickly. Had a set on a lowly 100ps Polo 1.9TDI and they lasted 8k miles on the fronts. Anything except Bridgestones would be an improvement. Conti 5s, Michelin PS3s, Goodyear Asy2s are amongst the most popular available at a reasonable price if you shop around.
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OP: You don't mention which size tyres you require.
Have a look at this link which lists all Summer Tyre Reviews:
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre-Tests/#summer
Its the standard GTD 18"
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I'm thinking Conti 5s or PS3s as my top two options. Cost is not a problem with a Lease car :whistle:
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I'll make this simple and say there's only 1 option for summer;
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2's.
And one for winter;
Continental Winter Contact TS830/850.
I use both. The Goodyears out perform the Conti 5's overall. The Goodyear is also the best all year round tyre as it consistently creeps into the top 3 on all tests.
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I'm thinking Conti 5s or PS3s as my top two options. Cost is not a problem with a Lease car :whistle:
I would stick with the Contis. They have been rated as No.1 in most of the tyre tests.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre-Tests/#summer
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Interesting thread guys , I've had my gti for a month now and today had an incident due to the bridgestones! So biting the bullet and getting new rubber , but the tyres have to be a good all season tyres and the continentals review say they are no good for ice or snow conditions , or am I reading to much into it?
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Contis, Michelins nor Goodyear mentioned here will be any good in ice and snow. For that you need proper winter tyres.
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No summer tyres will be any good in snow. It's like going out in the snow wearing sandals, your sandals might be slightly better quality with the Goodyear and Continentals, they might cope with icy conditions but they're still not going to be ideal. The tread is designed to offer good grip on dry and wet roads.
To be fair there are "all season" tyres but they compromise on fuel economy by having a much higher rolling resistance.
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OP:
Have a look at the link below regarding All Season Tyres. The bar graph compares braking distance of All (Vredestein) vs Summer vs Winter vs Winter+Summer. Makes interesting reading.
Vredestein tyres are recommended for UK conditions even though they rank 3rd in the comparative test.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2014-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm
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Yes as AM1W says the Vredestein Quatrac 3 tyre is the best "all season" tyre.
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Might be worth using an all season tyre instead of a winter but still retain a summer tyre especially on a gti/gtd or an r?
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:smiley: I'll be going for Yokohama Advan V105's when I replace my tyres on the Gti next year, I had the V103's on my CTR and found them to be very good all round performance. Blackcircles price looks good too.
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Might be worth using an all season tyre instead of a winter but still retain a summer tyre especially on a gti/gtd or an r?
If you keep 2 sets of wheels/tyres why use all season, I would only use them on low mileage cars where I could not be bothered to keep two sets. If you do keep 2 sets then go for proper summer and winter, not a down the road compromise (A/S are OK, had some in the past but the are relatively rubbish in hot summer and deep snow).
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Just replaced the sh!te stones for Conti 5's great tyre, and I'm a Michelin man.
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Just had Contis on, replaced Bridgestones! Chalk and Cheese! So much more grip! GTD 19 k miles.
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:smiley: I'll be going for Yokohama Advan V105's when I replace my tyres on the Gti next year, I had the V103's on my CTR and found them to be very good all round performance. Blackcircles price looks good too.
Just swapped these out for a set of Michelin Super Sports on the spare wheels for the R as when part worn turned out to be woeful and did not respond well to heat, once lap on a sprint course and next two were understeer a go go
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Made my decision and will go for the Conti 5s, cheers guys. Will have to wait until January to get tyres replaced and from other peoples comments and experience can't wait!
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Like so many on here I have Bridgestones fitted. I was reasonably happy with them on my Mk6 GTD, but the wet weather performance when fitted to the Mk7 is, imho, pretty abysmal. There have been lots of comments about the usual brands, but has anyone fitted or got any views on Vredestein Sessantas? I know they are a summer tyre, but wet weather performance seems to get good reviews as does road noise, handling etc. In addition, prices seem reasonable………and they look cool (sad, I know)!!!! your views would be much appreciated.
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I've raved a couple of times on here about Sessanta's! I haven't reached changing the tyres on my GTD yet, but will consider them alongside anything else under £100 at the time.
I had the sessanta's a couple of times on a Civic cdti (140bhp/340nm), and they were awesome. Wet performance was incredible, and they were quiet and yes - look very cool :)
I know plenty of people have used them on higher end cars so they are definitely a candidate for the GTD/GTI. Some of the older posts on here are very positive about them on older GTI's, we just haven't seen anyone take the plunge on the MK7 yet!
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Here's the thing, you won't know until you try them...
Even if you read the reviews you will understand that this tyre's good at this and that one at that - the objective measure but the subjective element is very important as well, how does it make the car feel to you? In this regard everyone is different.
For example, I'm not a big fan of Goodyear F1 Asymmetric. This tyre performs well in most categories in the tests but they are designed with a soft sidewall which, to me, makes the steering feel mushy on turn in. I preferred, on balance, my GTD on the Continentals it came with rather than the Michelins it now has but most on here will tell you that the Michelin is better.
The Vredesteins have a good reputation, especially in the wet, but I'm yet to try them.
My Golf is a company car so I get no real choice in what they put on... I can ask Quick Fit... but in the end, they are told by the lease company what to put on and as long as they have an E mark on them then I have to live with that...
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That's very true Corgi, it is very subjective. The vred's have hard side walls I believe, so you may like the feel. In the Honda the steering feel was certainly taken up a few notches.
I will probably put my money where my mouth is and get them when due next year.
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I too will need to replace my Conti 2's when I change back from winter tyres next spring and have been following this discussion with interest. My shortlist is the usual suspects : Conti 5, Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2, etc however I was speaking to my usual tyre fitter who recommended Hankook Ventus V12 evo2 (K120). Does anyone have experience or info on these. Reviews I've seen look interesting
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thanks for your comments guys
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I was speaking to my usual tyre fitter who recommended Hankook Ventus V12 evo2 (K120). Does anyone have experience or info on these. Reviews I've seen look interesting
They were on the back of my 911 when I bought it...they were OK but didn't last long... and when they were below 3mm they were poor...
It would be interesting to know why he's recommending them... Is it because he rates them as a tyre? If so what is he comparing them to? Is it because he makes a bigger margin on them? Is it because they don't last long and you'll be back for more of them sooner than with other tyres?
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I was speaking to my usual tyre fitter who recommended Hankook Ventus V12 evo2 (K120). Does anyone have experience or info on these. Reviews I've seen look interesting
They were on the back of my 911 when I bought it...they were OK but didn't last long... and when they were below 3mm they were poor...
It would be interesting to know why he's recommending them... Is it because he rates them as a tyre? If so what is he comparing them to? Is it because he makes a bigger margin on them? Is it because they don't last long and you'll be back for more of them sooner than with other tyres?
Usually some ulterior motive corgi and I would go with 2 and 3 on your suggestions.
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My first set of Dunlops lasted just 8000 miles. Didn't think I was that hard on them either.
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Conti 5s fitted today. Very, very impressed. Under £400 and the Austins are un marked.
I decided against winters at over £700 + storage and refitting costs even though I know how good they are. Hope I don't regret it.
After 18k on the Bridgestones I now realise how bad they actually were, the slightest bit of damp on the roads and struggling for grip. Unfortunately they also last for ages.
My advice?
Ditch the Bridgestones before they ditch you - literally. :sick:
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Many people swapping front and rear tyres around?
My GTI came with Bridgestones which do seem to spin easily when it is damp. I liked the Goodyears we had on our Scirocco latterly, so will probably go to those or Contis.
Wondering about swapping front to rear at about 8000 and then running them to 15000 or so and replacing all four. I know that people's tyre wear will vary hugely, but does that sound about right from experience of the Bridgestones? Keep them slightly longer? Probably not worth the faff of jacking the car up myself to swap them - are most tyre places happy to do it for a modest charge?
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I rotated purely so I didn't have to buy any new tyres before I got my new R. 8/9k miles is probably about right for all tyres being done in at the same time, I waited to 11k miles and at 15k miles now my rears (which were my fronts) are probably around 2.5mm, should last until April/May for the R, but the fronts (were the rears) are still a healthy 5.5mm.
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I don't drive it like I stole it but how are some of you guys getting more than 10k out of set of fronts. Mine will need replacing at around 7/8k, which is a bit of a game out here in Cyprus. Not so much getting the tyres, it's finding somewhere to fit them without taking chunks out of the wheels!
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I don't drive it like I stole it but how are some of you guys getting more than 10k out of set of fronts. Mine will need replacing at around 7/8k, which is a bit of a game out here in Cyprus. Not so much getting the tyres, it's finding somewhere to fit them without taking chunks out of the wheels!
Depends on the tyres - those crappy Bridgestones are really hard wearing - I got 21k miles out of a set of fronts on my MK5 170TDI GT Sport, driving it very hard.
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Nice one, thanks for the replies. Will probably swap at about 8000 miles depending on how they look, and see how I can go from there. Should time well for swapping all 4 just before next winter. Does mean enduring a summer on Bridgestones though. :/
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I've done 10 and half thousand on the contis that came with mine but I can't swap them front to back as I've got an unrepairable puncture on my offside rear. I'll just be replacing all 4 when time comes but I've still got plenty of miles left in them.
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GolfTi how do the Conti Sports Contact 5's tyres look?. Im due two new fronts and I currently have the Sport Contact 2's. Im a bit anal and I hate why all four tyres don't match. It would appear the 2's are old school now so I will like make the transition to the 5's.
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:smiley: I'll be going for Yokohama Advan V105's when I replace my tyres on the Gti next year, I had the V103's on my CTR and found them to be very good all round performance. Blackcircles price looks good too.
Just swapped these out for a set of Michelin Super Sports on the spare wheels for the R as when part worn turned out to be woeful and did not respond well to heat, once lap on a sprint course and next two were understeer a go go
Where they the Advan 105's that you had? If they were then maybe Michelin would be a better option, cheers wigit
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My car lease company have back tracked on this arrangement saying changing to Continentals won't make any difference as Bridgestones are just as good tyres as the rest and the tramping could be down to a drive shaft problem. (read from their customer query response notes of course and not from knowledge)
In my opinion, if tyres are of poor quality then who gives a sh*t what the tread looks like they should be replaced.
Tight fisted a'holes :angry:
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My car lease company have back tracked on this arrangement saying changing to Continentals won't make any difference as Bridgestones are just as good tyres as the rest and the tramping could be down to a drive shaft problem. (read from their customer query response notes of course and not from knowledge)
In my opinion, if tyres are of poor quality then who gives a sh*t what the tread looks like they should be replaced.
Tight fisted a'holes :angry:
I've said it before - VW UK need us all to moan about Bridgestones to sit up and listen (and then get VW central to sit up and listen). The VW UK rep stated this in their follow up to my email, they will not act on an isolated incident. Seems no effort at all for us to moan here about them, but too much hassle to construct a well worded email to VW UK to let them know how crap these tyres are (and the wipers).
Is it coincidence that nearly everyone selling their GTI/GTD/R wheels shod in rubber on ebay.de (presumably getting some aftermarket option and want to recoup some money) don't have Bridgestones. To me that says the domestic market don't get sh!tty Bridgestones and VW know exactly what they are doing by giving us them.
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I've said it before - VW UK need us all to moan about Bridgestones to sit up and listen (and then get VW central to sit up and listen).
Yes, endlessly :smiley: and to an extent, I agree; however, you need to be less hysterical about it, branding them "widowmakers" or whatever is not constructive.
The VW UK rep stated this in their follow up to my email, they will not act on an isolated incident. Seems no effort at all for us to moan here about them, but too much hassle to construct a well worded email to VW UK to let them know how crap these tyres are (and the wipers).
As I said, I agree, but you're previous attempt played the hysteria angle. Be realistic and constructive, I reckon it will get you further.
In the end, my experience of the Bridgestone tyre is that they are very temperature sensitive which when it is cold on many front wheel drive cars can lead to balance issues (warming up the rear tyres can take a long time). This means that you can't properly exploit the performance of the car. There is an element of danger there, cold rears on a front wheel drive car can make life tricky... I've seen similar issues on a BMW 1er but the balance issue is less of a problem - warming the rears is very easy... you then end up with understeer. Incidentally, the 19" Bridgestones on my g/f's 3er are much better and performed very well in the cold and streaming wet this morning.
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Poor when cold? They're poor all the time. In the height of summer these tyres tramp to buggery in the slight damp at the end of my 13 mile commute. They are truly awful on a torquey GTD.
If people want VW to stop putting these on cars (not saying they will definitely take action), then they need to let VW know what they think of them. To put a tyre on a car so unsuitable as to inhibit its performance is very poor of VW, these tyres might well be fine to handle the change of pace on something with 120ps and no torque, but on a GTD or a GTI they are a real compromise. There are far better performing tyres out there at the same retail pricepoint that VW should be able to acquire just as cheaply as the Bridgestones.
Do you not agree that it's unacceptable to put your foot down in 3rd and experience wheelspin/traction control intervention unless it's on something with a massive BHP per tonne? It's like Denon delivering a £1500 hifi with £20 speakers - woefully inadequate for the job at hand.
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Do you not agree that it's unacceptable to put your foot down in 3rd and experience wheelspin/traction control intervention unless it's on something with a massive BHP per tonne? It's like Denon delivering a £1500 hifi with £20 speakers - woefully inadequate for the job at hand.
Oh, yes, I agree on the general point. Your previous posts describing them as "widow makers" and the like are not constructive far better to let VW know that the tyres are not fit for purpose without becoming emotional about it. I've not experienced the Bridgestones on a Golf... but I have on others... and I have found that when you warm them up properly they're OK... it can take time. Perhaps they are less suited to the Golf than others?
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Unfortunately there's no benefit when the Bridgestones are warmed up or not... I've had a fair few long motorway journeys last summer and recently and the wheel spin and tramping still occurred at the end of the journey without flooring the accelerator either.
If my sh*tty lease company will not replace then I will buy 2 new fronts which are grippy but don't last long so when they wear down more quickly they will have to legally replace them
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My GTD has come with Pirelli P Zeros (only picked it up today) Has anyone else had these and if so what were they like?
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P zero are good tyres, but bad for wear. No direct comparison to golf but my brother has them on his 170hp giulietta.... if he keeps going as he currently does they will be on legal limit at 20k km = 12k miles.
Sticky thou :)
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Thanks for the info mate I'll have to keep my eye on them. My morning commute is on a long straight boring road so hopefully may last a bit longer than 12k but see how we get on. Just out of interest what sort of price should I expect to pay for P Zeros? I've seen about £160?
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Thanks for the info mate I'll have to keep my eye on them. My morning commute is on a long straight boring road so hopefully may last a bit longer than 12k but see how we get on. Just out of interest what sort of price should I expect to pay for P Zeros? I've seen about £160?
I'm assuming that at the prices you're quoting, you are talking 19" wheels on 235/35 R19?
Costco do Michelin Supersport in 19" for about £167 each fully fitted. With the gear they have there you know they aren't going to butcher your rims (happened to me before with a black circles approved fitter), and they will give you a £50 Costco voucher for every pair you buy (promotion on regularly and on right now), effectively making them £142 each fully fitted. I doubt you will find top tier 19" rubber any cheaper than that.
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I'm assuming that at the prices you're quoting, you are talking 19" wheels on 235/35 R19?
Costco do Michelin Supersport in 19" for about £167 each fully fitted. With the gear they have there you know they aren't going to butcher your rims (happened to me before with a black circles approved fitter), and they will give you a £50 Costco voucher for every pair you buy (promotion on regularly and on right now), effectively making them £142 each fully fitted. I doubt you will find top tier 19" rubber any cheaper than that.
Yea 19" mate. Can't say I've ever used (or even heard of) them before but just looked on their website and it seems they've got a garage not to far from where I work so that's handy. Thanks for the info. I'm guessing the supersports are pretty decent tyres then?
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I'm assuming that at the prices you're quoting, you are talking 19" wheels on 235/35 R19?
Costco do Michelin Supersport in 19" for about £167 each fully fitted. With the gear they have there you know they aren't going to butcher your rims (happened to me before with a black circles approved fitter), and they will give you a £50 Costco voucher for every pair you buy (promotion on regularly and on right now), effectively making them £142 each fully fitted. I doubt you will find top tier 19" rubber any cheaper than that.
Yea 19" mate. Can't say I've ever used (or even heard of) them before but just looked on their website and it seems they've got a garage not to far from where I work so that's handy. Thanks for the info. I'm guessing the supersports are pretty decent tyres then?
They're the best that Michelin do (I think) - very good tyres, so i'm told, the range down Michelin Pilotsport 3 are very good. If you're not a paid up member of Costco (or know someone that is), you won't be able to use their tyre services. The Supersports have to be ordered in (expect a 2 day wait at most) as they're not a stock tyre at Costco.
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Oh right ok. Not a member of Costco no. I've never really given tyres much thought before but I've never had a car like a GTD with 19" wheels. Was never bothered what and how the tyres were fitted to my previous cars but am with this one.
I'm guessing you would advise staying clear of Halfords etc..? I've used a website for a number of years now called tyresavings.com and the tyre prices on there are very competitive (P Zero Corsas for example are £168 fitted and SuperSports are £170 fitted). Only thing is most of the garages they use tend to be Halfords.
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Oh right ok. Not a member of Costco no. I've never really given tyres much thought before but I've never had a car like a GTD with 19" wheels. Was never bothered what and how the tyres were fitted to my previous cars but am with this one.
I'm guessing you would advise staying clear of Halfords etc..? I've used a website for a number of years now called tyresavings.com and the tyre prices on there are very competitive (P Zero Corsas for example are £168 fitted and SuperSports are £170 fitted). Only thing is most of the garages they use tend to be Halfords.
I'd just exercise caution with your wheels wherever they're fitted. I would hope that an organisation as big as Halfords has decent/newis tyre mounting gear, rather than an ape with a set of small jemmy bars. If your wheels are pristine and unmarked just let it be known that they are and you expect them to still look that way post-fitment.
If you're due even 2 tyres, the savings with Costco will pay for a year's membership as right now you'd get a £50 Costco voucher for 2 Michelin Supersports bought at £167 each, fitted. Costco is one of those places where you go in intending on spending £30 and come out having spent £200.
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Costco is one of those places where you go in intending on spending £30 and come out having spent £200.
Tell me about it. I bought an oversized hammock from there about 15 years ago at a bargain £200+
My Mrs banned me from going back :rolleyes:
Back to tyres, I always thought Costco were the cheapest for Michelin but I went this morning to price up 4 tyres for my daughters Polo 195x55x15 and they wanted £100 a tyre, special order!!
Yet I can get them elsewhere for £87 fitted or delivered for £64 which is a considerable difference.
So not always the cheapest option.
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Anyone seen any good deals on tyres lately (like ASDA etc..)? Recommendations welcome as I'm about to rinse some cash!
P.S. There is still 3-3.5mm on the fronts but I'm gonna bite the bullet and replace early. Reason - I'm sick of losing traction!! Going for either Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 or Dunlop Sport Maxx RT.
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I found Camskill the cheapest to buy mail order and then got them fitted by a local place. Just have to watch - a lot of garages won't fit tyres that you haven't purchased from them.
All in, 2x Vredestein Sessanta, fitted for £175.
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Right then. Best deal I could find for a set of new fronts is this:
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2
£95 each inc vat (fully fitted price on your drive)
From: http://www.tyrefitdirect.co.uk
I'll let you know if they are any good and double double check they don't damage my diamond cut alloys!
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I found Camskill the cheapest to buy mail order and then got them fitted by a local place. Just have to watch - a lot of garages won't fit tyres that you haven't purchased from them.
All in, 2x Vredestein Sessanta, fitted for £175.
Thanks Ross but I've just placed an order. Don't know anything about Vredestein tyres mind. I'm sure they're good but I've plumped for Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2's this time to replace the OEM fitted Continental Sport Contact 2 (which I wasn't overly impressed with).
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I found Camskill the cheapest to buy mail order and then got them fitted by a local place. Just have to watch - a lot of garages won't fit tyres that you haven't purchased from them.
All in, 2x Vredestein Sessanta, fitted for £175.
Ross whereabouts did you go?
The only place I've found and more importantly trusted was a wee place away over near Costco. Which is a fair jaunt.
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Just wanted to give a big thumbs up recommendation to Tyres on the Drive for fitting my new tyres this week.
http://www.tyresonthedrive.com/
They were only a few quid more than buying your tyres online and having them delivered to a fitters. Plus a lot less hassle than waiting around a scruffy tyre fitters.
Another benefit is you're able to watch them work at close hand - mainly to check they don't damage your precious diamond cut alloys. I can report no damage what so ever as the chap was a car lover himself and very careful (and I was breathing down his neck).
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Guys I have a dilemma.
Whilst in the hospital whith my daughter it looks like I've got a nail stuck in the rear left. Prob is I fly out early hours of Monday morning for my sister in laws wedding from Luton. Local kwick fit have advised they can do a puncture repair fr 6 quid whilst I decide what to do. I flipped te tyres late last year so I could ideally flip em back ANdd change the punctured one along with one more.
My he other problem is a lot of places close at 4/5 today and don't open ok Sunday to get a good set of tyres for a good price.
I'm mindful of doing the puncture repair and sorting out tyres when I get back.
Any ideas where I can get a good deal or the best course of action as I need the car today to catch up with last minute holiday stuff as the nipper was in hospital for two nights.
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Stick the spare on for now, sort it out when you get back?
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Stick the spare on for now, sort it out when you get back?
I need to drive from Brum to luton otherwise that was the easiest option. Also what would ppl recommend. I have the contis on there now but would like some good all round not bad in winter not bad in summer.
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If I could get them, then Michelin PS3's... deffo seems to be the pukka choice
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From looking at various reviews etc was thinking Goodyear, vredatein, Michelin or contis.
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Conti 5's
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Michelin PS3s are grippy in the wet and dry, relatively quiet and wear well.
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Desperation led me to a local kwick fit (costco didnt have the ones In stock) gt two new michelins ps3s for 240 supply and fit.
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I'll ask again but why do people rave about the Michelins when they are only rated an E where other tyres have much better ratings?
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E for rolling resistance.... lower rolling resistance actually mean less dry grip.
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I was led to the michelins by sheer desperation. No contis in stock not where there any goodyears. I had to make the best of a bad situation.
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I found Camskill the cheapest to buy mail order and then got them fitted by a local place. Just have to watch - a lot of garages won't fit tyres that you haven't purchased from them.
All in, 2x Vredestein Sessanta, fitted for £175.
Ross whereabouts did you go?
The only place I've found and more importantly trusted was a wee place away over near Costco. Which is a fair jaunt.
if you pop into greenhll tryes on greenhill road paisley ask for jim or chris pretty sure they are not that far from you :smiley:
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if you pop into greenhll tryes on greenhill road paisley ask for jim or chris pretty sure they are not that far from you :smiley:
Cheers mate. I'll keep them in mind.
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E for rolling resistance.... lower rolling resistance actually mean less dry grip.
so your saying a tyre with E rating for rolling resistance is better than a C rating?? A tyre with C and A or B and A is surely better than an E rated tyre?
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if you pop into greenhll tryes on greenhill road paisley ask for jim or chris pretty sure they are not that far from you :smiley:
Cheers mate. I'll keep them in mind.
Chris just done my 19s again an has never marked a wheel on any car I have got him to do :smiley: and he has done plenty over the years for me
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E for rolling resistance.... lower rolling resistance actually mean less dry grip.
so your saying a tyre with E rating for rolling resistance is better than a C rating?? A tyre with C and A or B and A is surely better than an E rated tyre?
The EU ratings only care about fuel economy (low rolling resistance) and stopping distance in wet. Neither of those really correlate with handling. The grippier tyres (softer compound) have higher rolling resistance, like my vreds which get an F (which is the same as Michelin super sports)!
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E for rolling resistance.... lower rolling resistance actually mean less dry grip.
so your saying a tyre with E rating for rolling resistance is better than a C rating?? A tyre with C and A or B and A is surely better than an E rated tyre?
Yes, A is low rolling resistance F is high. Rolling resistance is all about fuel economy, if you want grip, you want higher rolling resistance.
Didn't you read what the man from Tombstone said on the other thread?
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Yes i read it!! All he's done is lift the corporate spiel from Bridgestone blurb. From what your saying a c rated tyre is a good compromise instead of an f?? With an f rated tyre it may well give more grip but less fuel economy?
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Dry grip is inversely proportional to rolling resistance (aka fuel economy). More reaction to the road.
Wet grip is inversely proportional to noise. Wet grip is provided mainly by water dispersion channel (aka "tread") and the more efficient will have more, which makes more noise.
Is there a perfect tyre? Of course not, otherwise they all would be making them. Its all about compromise and so its all down to you choosing the balance that you want.
Wear also comes into it (unless you are made of money and racing on a track).
Personally I wouldn't take a tyre with average or less wet grip, because I want to live to enjoy my Golf another day. I'd choose that, then a nice dry grip and stuff the fuel economy and the wearing :)
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So the Michelin would be top choice for most with maybe a conti 5 next. This explanation is great Fred, cheers. Maybe explains why I think the conti2's on my gtd are actually quite good. :grin:
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Soft tyres are grippy and quiet, but don’t last long.
Fred Flintstone round granite tyres last for ages, have nowt in the way of grip and are noisy as hell!
:tongue:
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Soft tyres are grippy and quiet, but don’t last long.
Fred Flintstone round granite tyres last for ages, have nowt in the way of grip and are noisy as hell!
:tongue:
On the Michelin front, for the road I would stick with PS3s not the SuperSports. Again... the SuperSports have plenty of grip but you need to get them warm... I've driven a GT3RS with SuperSports on track and they were difficult for the first couple of laps... after that fantastic, even in damp conditions...
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Soft tyres are grippy and quiet, but don’t last long.
Fred Flintstone round granite tyres last for ages, have nowt in the way of grip and are noisy as hell!
:tongue:
On the Michelin front, for the road I would stick with PS3s not the SuperSports. Again... the SuperSports have plenty of grip but you need to get them warm... I've driven a GT3RS with SuperSports on track and they were difficult for the first couple of laps... after that fantastic, even in damp conditions...
The PS3s seem harder to come by in 19", for some reason my local Costco can't get them in (even though they claim to be able to order in any Michelin tyre), but readily stock the 18" variant as an off the shelf item.
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Here we go on the old tyres thing again. Tyres are quite a personal choice, but the consensus seems to be that Bridgestones are not an ideal match for the Mk7 GTI/GTD. I noticed the difference when I changed my Mk6 GTD for a Mk7 GTD, i found the Bridgestones were pretty good on the Mk6, but was shocked at the level of tramping on the Mk7. After a bit of research I decided to replace all 4 tyres (the fronts were down to the marker) and fitted Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas. Am I pleased with them? over the moon! Now that they are nicely scrubbed they are so much quieter than the Bridgestones on all but the worst surfaces. The steering feels more positive and the grip is great in wet and dry conditions. Most importantly, I no longer have to feather the throttle from standstill. I can now accelerate like a loon with out any loss of traction. Vreds my be something of a left field choice, but I can recommend them - they look great as well! :smiley: Just need to see how long the last now.
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I'm with you dervy :) Love these tyres, and can be had for around 74 quid a pop delivered.
I've put them on my fronts recently and the car's grip is fantastic in dry and wet (plus running a DTUK which they seem to eat up.) Dead quiet too like you say.
I can get the car to tramp in 1st gear, but will be interesting to see how it is once I replace the rears.
I've had 10,000 out of them in the past on a diesel civic - I only got 10,000 out of my Conti sport 2's on the GTD, so I'll be happy with anywhere near to 10,000 at the price.
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Just a HUKDs heads up for Goodyear Eagle Asy 2 at £75.40 a pop plus £6 postage.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/goodyear-eagle-f1-asymmetric-2-225-40-r18-92y-xl-camskill-2175391 (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/goodyear-eagle-f1-asymmetric-2-225-40-r18-92y-xl-camskill-2175391)
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New Michelin PS3 fitted Saturday and having been out in a deluge yesterday realised how much compensating in driving was having to do with the Bridgestones.
Alot more confidence in general wet driving and only managed to get the wheels to spin by literally putting everything down off a start - The Bridgestones used to spin even on relatively damp and mild pull offs and tramp like a mad thing on a serious floor.
Bridgestones were not really a problem in dry though you could still get wheels to spin on a decent get away so imagine that would be also near removed to as an issue given yesterdays wet experience.
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Just had four Nexen N'Fera R18 tyres turn up this morning - 240.00 quid delivered!
Not for the GTD but the same size....
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Goodyear Eagle F1's. No contest.
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All the people on other forums who have migrated to the Supersports from F1s are not complaining
Some interesting comments on the Supersports when cold, i have run these all winter on the R and it has been ok in temps to -1, any colder i always used the Polo
Where the Supersports score is the grip in the wet, I sprint the R on road tyres and did a sprint in the rain with the Supersports and was 10s clear of the track day specials, this was without esp and the R was amazingly controllable and it was actually embarrassing, what was interesting was when pushing hard they preferred full wet to a greasy surface and it was a great exercise learning about the car and the grip
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Long journey yesterday on the new Michelin PS3 in dry and wet and they definitely made a difference in other ways also making you realise how much was accepting the wearing Bridgestone.
Tyre noise greatly reduced, steering rock solid and assured and so cruising along motorway at 2.5k revs with DCC set to comfort made a long journey feel effortless for the car and so me too.
Not saying its the Michelin PS3 alone that will do this but decent new rubber definitely makes a difference when previous set were Bridgestone and on the wane.
So anyone hanging on to get last few miles out of original set, do self a favour and cut losses and go get rebooted.
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So yesterday I noticed both fronts worn down, which was great news as the Bridgestones will go...
Despite requesting Conti 5s or PS3s my lease company has sent KwikFit out and they've just turned up with Conti 3s instead to replace both fronts.
So far after reading some reviews on these tyres I'm probably not going to be much better off than the Bridgestones, which I'm a little surprised about as some of my mates have these on their GTI/GTDs/Audi's and they haven't complained.....
whats everyone else's experience with Conti 3s???
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Update:
KwikFit guy was obviously guessing as he's now done and I have 2 new Conti 5s fitted :drool:
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Ha, good result :)
I had the 3's on my GTD, well, I still do on the rear. They are better than the Bridgestones by the sounds of it but 5's will obviously be much improved.
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Just took the GTD out and even though the tyres are brand new and not worn in, a big big improvement! Drove normally and where I would have had a few minor tramps/flashing orange on the dash whilst pulling away, not a single one :smiley:
Tyres look great too and suit the car so forgetting for a moment that this is a company lease i'm very tempted to pay out of my own pocket and replace the two rears as well to touch it all off nicely.
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Proper tyres :cool:
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perhaps I should be in formula 1 as I am a driver who can look after my tyres, no tramping not had any problems with the bridgstones.
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The Bridgestones are a very hard compound tyre so will last a long time. Other tyres have a softer compound which gives more grip. Personally I prefer the extra grip and traction.
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perhaps I should be in formula 1 as I am a driver who can look after my tyres, no tramping not had any problems with the bridgstones.
Perhaps you are holding back. If I was only interested in applying 1/4 throttle to get moving at a roundabout then I would never suffer tramping, but why should you have to apply more caution to pull away at a roundabout than an ancient Citroen 2CV just to avoid tramping? Crap tyres, you can adapt your driving style to prevent tramping, but the question is why should you have to drive the car at a fraction of it's potential to prevent an issue that would not be there had VW fitted almost any other brand of premium tyre?
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perhaps I should be in formula 1 as I am a driver who can look after my tyres, no tramping not had any problems with the bridgstones.
Perhaps you are holding back. If I was only interested in applying 1/4 throttle to get moving at a roundabout then I would never suffer tramping, but why should you have to apply more caution to pull away at a roundabout than an ancient Citroen 2CV just to avoid tramping? Crap tyres, you can adapt your driving style to prevent tramping, but the question is why should you have to drive the car at a fraction of it's potential to prevent an issue that would not be there had VW fitted almost any other brand of premium tyre?
Yes to be fair I am holding back . I have treated the car very carefully and its not a daily driver as I have a car provided for my work. I have had the car 5 months and done 3,400 miles I am now starting to drive it a lot harder so may soon be changing my opinion. Although I have not had a problem I would not discount the views of the forum. I have favoured Michelin PS3 on my MK5 golf and will probably go for those when the bridegstones wear out. Trouble is with my careful driving they will last for ages. The only way to tell is to change the tyres and see the difference. I see some people are saying that the change in tyres has transformed the car. That is something to look forward to when the novelty of the new car has worn off. Having looked at my fronts today they seem hardly worn, if I was on the Michelins they would be half worn by now. As someone has stated its a soft compound for grip and hard for wear. Difficult to get the best of both, unless anyone knows different.cheers Steve
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Caprigreen: Yes, the Bridgestones are rock hard, they will last a long time if the car is driven carefully, if you're only keeping the cars 3 years on limited miles, you may never wear them out.
My biggest regret with my GTD is that I didn't bin the Bridgestones early on. With better rubber and the DTUK box (tramping easily with and without the DTUK box), I may have never ordered the R in the pursuit of some reasonable traction. As much as I dislike driving DSG, i've had a good few gos in my Dad's DSG GTD which came on Dunlops and it is very hard to lose traction with his, even now he's inherited my DTUK box.
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Caprigreen: Yes, the Bridgestones are rock hard, they will last a long time if the car is driven carefully, if you're only keeping the cars 3 years on limited miles, you may never wear them out.
My biggest regret with my GTD is that I didn't bin the Bridgestones early on. With better rubber and the DTUK box (tramping easily with and without the DTUK box), I may have never ordered the R in the pursuit of some reasonable traction. As much as I dislike driving DSG, i've had a good few gos in my Dad's DSG GTD which came on Dunlops and it is very hard to lose traction with his, even now he's inherited my DTUK box.
I estimate my mileage to be be around 8k a year. I saw the fronts on a demo nearly gone at 8k although i think it had had a very hard life. It would be a shame to find a huge difference when I am about to sell the car. I will probably keep the car until the MK8 arrives. Difficult one as tyres are not cheap.
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Caprigreen: Yes, the Bridgestones are rock hard, they will last a long time if the car is driven carefully, if you're only keeping the cars 3 years on limited miles, you may never wear them out.
My biggest regret with my GTD is that I didn't bin the Bridgestones early on. With better rubber and the DTUK box (tramping easily with and without the DTUK box), I may have never ordered the R in the pursuit of some reasonable traction. As much as I dislike driving DSG, i've had a good few gos in my Dad's DSG GTD which came on Dunlops and it is very hard to lose traction with his, even now he's inherited my DTUK box.
I estimate my mileage to be be around 8k a year. I saw the fronts on a demo nearly gone at 8k although i think it had had a very hard life. It would be a shame to find a huge difference when I am about to sell the car. I will probably keep the car until the MK8 arrives. Difficult one as tyres are not cheap.
With tyre rotation and driving it a little harder than I think you have, all 4 of my tyres are almost done in at 16500 miles. Probably would get to 18k miles before needing a change if the R wasn't so close.
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Caprigreen: Yes, the Bridgestones are rock hard, they will last a long time if the car is driven carefully, if you're only keeping the cars 3 years on limited miles, you may never wear them out.
My biggest regret with my GTD is that I didn't bin the Bridgestones early on. With better rubber and the DTUK box (tramping easily with and without the DTUK box), I may have never ordered the R in the pursuit of some reasonable traction. As much as I dislike driving DSG, i've had a good few gos in my Dad's DSG GTD which came on Dunlops and it is very hard to lose traction with his, even now he's inherited my DTUK box.
I estimate my mileage to be be around 8k a year. I saw the fronts on a demo nearly gone at 8k although i think it had had a very hard life. It would be a shame to find a huge difference when I am about to sell the car. I will probably keep the car until the MK8 arrives. Difficult one as tyres are not cheap.
With tyre rotation and driving it a little harder than I think you have, all 4 of my tyres are almost done in at 16500 miles. Probably would get to 18k miles before needing a change if the R wasn't so close.
Thats two years then for me, better get tramping :smiley:
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Here's an update after 1 week with new Conti 5s on both fronts coming from Bridgestones....
Not a single tramp or wheel spin or orange light on the dash since they were replaced. I took it fairly easy the first few days but I'm no light driver and over the last 3 or 4 days pulling away in 1st or accelerating in 2nd gear very hard (3/4 throttle down at least) and the car shoots away with amazing grip and not a single orange flash or wheel spin.
Anyone who has issues with Bridgestones and are reluctant to replace before their time (whether its will another tyre be better or I can't warrant the cost), I'd suggest you do because it makes a huge difference to your driving confidence in the car (unless you're a Sunday driver in an expensive car, then it won't!)
By the way, my front two Bridgestones were equally worn down at 9300K ish miles!! :whistle:
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I had exactly the same experience.
Bodgestones fitted from the factory, thought the tramping was normal.
After fitting the Contis it was like a different car.
VW really should not be fitting these sub standard tyres on the GTI, it lets their amazing product down, badly.
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Goodyear eagle F1's
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Goodyear eagle F1's
+1 brilliant tyres! I've had them on the front for a few months now. Hardly ever get any loss of traction (tramping) in the dry anymore. I think the compound of rubber is softer but will probably wear quicker. I don't care though as it improves grip which is what I desperately wanted.
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:smiley: I'll be going for Yokohama Advan V105's when I replace my tyres on the Gti next year, I had the V103's on my CTR and found them to be very good all round performance. Blackcircles price looks good too.
I wouldn't recommend the Advans. Just yesterday had I replaced my front two with Hankook Ventus V12 evo. I only had the car since February 2014 with 16k miles on the clock and the tyre wear was terrible. They were good the first 6 months but after that, considerate tramping and very bad handling in wet conditions. My rears will only sustain till the end of summer and I got the Hankooks for a good price to try them out and maybe consider doing the rear tyres as well. The car feels very different now and the ride leans more to comfortability which is what I look for. Haven't tried performance wise but it felt more responsive and "gripped" to the gravel, even compared to when I first got the car. So all in all, I wouldn't go back to the Yokohama's again but it could be a different case for you and they might fulfill your needs. It all comes back to the driving style.
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well I had my bridgestones replaced on the front on Saturday..they were 94% worn after just over 10k miles ( I am entirely responsible for this...I enjoy my car at appropriate times!)
went for the pilot sport 3 's as I liked the pilot sports previous incarnation on my octavia vRs
off to the west coast of scotland at the weekend for 2 weeks, so they will get a thorough workout!
some good deals around at the moment..the contis and the pilot sports were both under a 100 quid a tyre, fitted.
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My front tyres need replacing on my mk7 PP Gti, on 19" wheels, I've been pleased with the SP sport Maxx GT's on there, decent grip wet and dry and no complaints at wear as I'm just at 17k miles admittedly most of it gentle m-way work..... However, ringing round the local independents they are not able to get straight replacements. So I'm wondering if I should look at Goodyear F1's which are pricey at £140 - £145 each fitted, also been offered Falkens at £125....., possibly also considering Michelins? Do they do the Ps3's in 19"? Appreciate any views on options please? I live in sunny Berkshire with a couple of good independents nearby.....
Cheers
Phil
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My front tyres need replacing on my mk7 PP Gti, on 19" wheels, I've been pleased with the SP sport Maxx GT's on there, decent grip wet and dry and no complaints at wear as I'm just at 17k miles admittedly most of it gentle m-way work..... However, ringing round the local independents they are not able to get straight replacements. So I'm wondering if I should look at Goodyear F1's which are pricey at £140 - £145 each fitted, also been offered Falkens at £125....., possibly also considering Michelins? Do they do the Ps3's in 19"? Appreciate any views on options please? I live in sunny Berkshire with a couple of good independents nearby.....
Cheers
Phil
Hi Phil, I can heartily recommend Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2's. Very very good tyres. I paid £104 each (albeit 18") inc. vat fitted from Tyres On The Drive. Excellent service and very careful with the rims. The guy even let me get up into his van to watch him as he took the old tyres off the rims and fitted new ones :) because I'm paranoid about damage.
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i'd still be heading toward the Michelin Super Sports on the 19s, not heard anyone of the F1 fanboys who have switched said they preferred them after
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Only issue with the Goodyears is they are a very soft tyre and won't last that long compared to others.
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Only issue with the Goodyears is they are a very soft tyre and won't last that long compared to others.
On the other hand, the Michelin Pilot Sport 3s I had fitted to previous VWs after the OEM tyres wore out seemed to last well for a grippy and quiet tyre. Can't comment on the wear Supersports (which are available fully fitted for £151 a corner at Kwikfit when ordered online), but they are praised by all. If you're after a cheap premium 19" tyre, the Uniroyal Rainsport 3 is available for under £100 a corner if you shop around - excellent wet grip, a bit soft in the wear.
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Thanks for the recommendations, will do some price checking tomorrow, will update on which option I go for and comparisons with the Dunlops if I change.
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The PS3's are meant to be pretty gd, but just too expensive. Goodyear Eagle F1's for me.
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I went for Conti Sport Contact 5's at £100 per corner. No complaints so far :smiley:
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I'm assuming everyone here talking £100 a corner is on 18" rubber?
You're looking at £140 a corner minimum for almost all decent 19" options, and for 19", the Michelin Pilot Supersports for £151 a corner (fully fitted) at your local Kwikfit seems to me to be the least hassle option - everyone has a Kwikfit near them.
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I went for Conti Sport Contact 5's at £100 per corner. No complaints so far :smiley:
+1 great tyre in wet and dry. Maybe not the longest lasting or cheapest for 19's, but worth it imo. mytyres.co.uk, camskill.co.uk and Blackcircles.com usually good on price.
...everyone has a Kwikfit near them.
Yes they do and I'd give them a wide berth if you value your diamond cut alloys :whistle:
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...everyone has a Kwikfit near them.
Yes they do and I'd give them a wide berth if you value your diamond cut alloys :whistle:
If you watch them like a hawk and let them know that your wheels are pristine coming in and you expect them that way coming out, i've never had any issues. Some of the other bandits that are authorised fitters for the likes of blackcircles etc however.... :whistle:
I'd personally get Costco to match the Kwikfit price.
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Hi all,
Hopefully collecting my car in the next couple of weeks. Im assuming I will have bridgestones on by reading some of the posts however as someone who doesn't have a clue is it that obvious the difference tyres like Eagle F1's or PS3's make?
I may have insulted a few people by writing this haha but I'm just curious.
Cheers
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Hi all,
Hopefully collecting my car in the next couple of weeks. Im assuming I will have bridgestones on by reading some of the posts however as someone who doesn't have a clue is it that obvious the difference tyres like Eagle F1's or PS3's make?
I may have insulted a few people by writing this haha but I'm just curious.
Cheers
Dont worry about the tyres, not the best but not had any problems myself, just enjoy the car and change them for something else when they wear out
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Hi all,
Hopefully collecting my car in the next couple of weeks. Im assuming I will have bridgestones on by reading some of the posts however as someone who doesn't have a clue is it that obvious the difference tyres like Eagle F1's or PS3's make?
I may have insulted a few people by writing this haha but I'm just curious.
Cheers
Dont worry about the tyres, not the best but not had any problems myself, just enjoy the car and change them for something else when they wear out
Good reply.
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Just an update from my original question. I thought I had found a good value source to replace the Dunlops GT Maxx 19's via National tyres online for £135 apiece. However, after placing and paying for the order they then emailed me to say they couldn't actually get the tyres which was very frustrating. Shame as the web site looks good and the local fitter to me seems ok, but in these days of live stock/order functionality its not acceptable in my view to take payment for goods they could never actually supply..... So back to first step and I ended up at Bracknell Tyres for a pair of Good Year F1 asymmetric 2's for £140 apiece. So far I'm very pleased with the tyres, road noise and grip similar to the Dunlops and they seem to have a slightly better lip to protect the alloys from kerbing. Be interesting to see if they can match the Dunlops 17k miles. Only residual irritant is that the tyre pressure monitoring system keeps going off despite me double checking the pressures and resetting the system.......
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Had my Mk7 Gti and not had any issues with the Bridgestones. They don't inspire much confidence, but I will obviously be replacing them with some Goodyear Eagle F1's when they wear out!
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I've been running Potenzas on the MX5 as summer tyres for three years without any problems. That said, only 17 inch, different profile, and on a lighter car.
Slightly worried that the Bridgestones appear to be crap on the GTI, as I am a bit of a tyre freak.
Only ordered on Friday so perhaps I should speak to the dealer and see if I can put in a special order lol :tongue:
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You can ask but they can't do anything. Stop panicking about the bridgestones, while they aren't the best tyre around they certainly aren't the worst.
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You can ask but they can't do anything. Stop panicking about the bridgestones, while they aren't the best tyre around they certainly aren't the worst.
I experienced a little slide around a wet corner today on the Bridgestone RE050 Shod R. It wasn't a quick corner, going around a tightish bend at around 25mph on the industrial estate by my new place of work - it was like tentatively walking bare footed on a wet glass floor when it started to go, I was shocked at how little speed it took. The Haldex 4WD can take care of the traction, but can't help general grip.
For a top tier brand of tyre i've never had any other tyre come close to Bridgestone's lack of grip - Dunlop SP01, Pirelli P7, Conti 3, Michelin PS3 have all been miles ahead in comparison. You can be sure VW/Audi don't have Bridgestones on when they conduct their economy and performance tests to determine their official figures. Fair dos on a 1.2TSI or 1.6TDI Golf SE, but when you're paying upwards of £25k for a car, you expect some rubber that will not hinder the car's potential performance, even if it ended up costing an extra tenner a corner.
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To be fair Matt the roads were very greasy yesterday due to the rain and even my traction control light flickered a few times :whistle: I don't think my front tyres will last the summer as they are virtually on the tread marker on the outside but still a couple of mm's to go on the inside.
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I experienced a little slide around a wet dry corner today on the Bridgestone RE050 Shod R. It wasn't a quick corner, going around a tightish bend at around 25mph on the industrial estate by my new place of work - it was like tentatively walking bare footed on a wet glass floor when it started to go, I was shocked at how little speed it took. The Haldex 4WD can take care of the traction, but can't help general grip.
For a top tier brand of tyre i've never had any other tyre come close to Bridgestone's lack of grip - Dunlop SP01, Pirelli P7, Conti 3, Michelin PS3 have all been miles ahead in comparison. You can be sure VW/Audi don't have Bridgestones on when they conduct their economy and performance tests to determine their official figures. Fair dos on a 1.2TSI or 1.6TDI Golf SE, but when you're paying upwards of £25k for a car, you expect some rubber that will not hinder the car's potential performance, even if it ended up costing an extra tenner a corner.
I agree they are pants. Really shocked me the way they lost grip on a dry roundabout (Park Royal, North Circular). Rear tyres lost grip and I was not going that fast, though faster than usual..
Will have to sort this out in a month or so when I am back in London. Am in Athens for a month+ enjoying my home, the sun and excellent food.
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I experienced a little slide around a wet dry corner today on the Bridgestone RE050 Shod R. It wasn't a quick corner, going around a tightish bend at around 25mph on the industrial estate by my new place of work - it was like tentatively walking bare footed on a wet glass floor when it started to go, I was shocked at how little speed it took. The Haldex 4WD can take care of the traction, but can't help general grip.
For a top tier brand of tyre i've never had any other tyre come close to Bridgestone's lack of grip - Dunlop SP01, Pirelli P7, Conti 3, Michelin PS3 have all been miles ahead in comparison. You can be sure VW/Audi don't have Bridgestones on when they conduct their economy and performance tests to determine their official figures. Fair dos on a 1.2TSI or 1.6TDI Golf SE, but when you're paying upwards of £25k for a car, you expect some rubber that will not hinder the car's potential performance, even if it ended up costing an extra tenner a corner.
I agree they are pants. Really shocked me the way they lost grip on a dry roundabout (Park Royal, North Circular). Rear tyres lost grip and I was not going that fast, though faster than usual..
Will have to sort this out in a month or so when I am back in London. Am in Athens for a month+ enjoying my home, the sun and excellent food.
Are either of you planning to swap them out yet for a better tyre?
Assuming my R comes with Bridgestones, I was prepared to give them a fighting chance at least, with a view to replacing them if they weren't up to the job. Sounds like they are NOT up to it even with the 4WD? :undecided:
I'm not a fan of Bridgestones, having experienced poor performance on a previous car. For the last 3 years I've had Conti 5p's which have been faultess, even on 19's in winter, so will have very little tolerance for the Bridgestones if they lose grip on when cornering at moderate speeds in the R. I'd happily go for Conti 5's again but fancy trying something else and a few respected people on here rate the Michelin PSS highly, especially on 19's, so that would be my choice if it comes to it (which seems likely).
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Rebecca.
Hello from sunny Athens.
I posted this today on the R Forum which you might find useful:
(A) - 18" wheels:
April 2015 Evo Mag Summer Tyre test with a Mk7 Golf GTI. Tyre size 225/40 R18 92Y.
http://www.evo.co.uk/features/15659/which-is-the-best-tyre-for-summer-performance-tyre-test
10th to 6th:
http://www.evo.co.uk/features/15659/which-is-the-best-tyre-for-summer-performance-tyre-test/page/0/1
5th to 1st:
http://www.evo.co.uk/features/15659/which-is-the-best-tyre-for-summer-performance-tyre-test/page/0/2
1st: Continental ContiSportContact 5
2nd: Pirelli P Zero
3rd: Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2
4th: Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
5th: Michelin Pilot Sport 3
6th: Vredestein Ultrac Vorti
7th: Toyo Proxes T1 Sport
8th: Hankook Ventus S1 evo2
9th: Dunlop Sport Maxx RT
10th and last: Bridgestone Potenza S001. The 19" Bridgestone RE050 tyres are an even older design than the S001s and are considered to be slightly worse than the S001s.
(B) - 17" wheels:
June 2015 Auto Express Summer Tyre test with a Mk7 Golf. Tyre size 225/45 R17.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/91856/tyre-reviews-best-tyres-2015
1st: Continental ContiSportContact 5 - 4th quietest
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/91858/continental-contisportcontact-5-review
2nd: Dunlop Sport BluResponse - 3rd quietest
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/91860/dunlop-sport-bluresponse-review
3rd: Michelin Pilot Sport 3 - Noisiest tyre
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/91861/michelin-pilot-sport-3-review
4th: Hankook Ventus evo 2 - Quietest
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/91862/hankook-ventus-evo-2-review
5th: Pirelli P Zero - Second quietist
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/91863/pirelli-p-zero-review
6th: Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 - 8th quietest
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/91864/goodyear-eagle-f1-asymmetric-2-review
(C):
Unfortunately, no Michelin PSS review for the 18" size.
(D) - 19" wheels:
2015 Reviews for 19" wheels and tyres read this:
BMW M4 with mixed 19" wheels:
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2015-Auto-Bild-Performance-Tyre-Test.htm
1st: Hankook Ventus S1 evo 2
2nd: Michelin PSS
3rd: Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2
Mk7 R with 19" wheels:
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2015-Sport-Auto-235-35-R19-UHP-Tyre-Test.htm
1st: Pirelli P Zero - Best overall but with high rolling resistance
2nd: ContiSportContact 5P - High noise level
3rd: Hankook - Quietest tyre and very close to Conti 5P in wet and dry (0.1 point difference).
Test Summary
Best tyre for dry roads: Pirelli P Zero
Best tyre for wet roads: Pirelli P Zero
The lowest fuel use: Dunlop SportMaxx RT
The most comfortable: Pirelli P Zero, Dunlop SportMaxx RT
The quietest tyre: Hankook Ventus S1 evo2, Dunlop SportMaxx RT
The Hankook is the quietest tyre. It also beats the Michelin PSS when used with the M4. The Audi TT is fitted with Hankook tyres. Hankook does pretty damn well in both tests. For 19" wheels it looks like a toss-up between Michelin PSS, Hankook or Perelli tyres. The Contis will probably be too noisy.
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If I were to buy a replacement set, i'd be getting Michelin PSS - You can get them from Costco £149 a corner fully fitted, if they had one of their £100 voucher deals on right now i'd almost certainly be buying a set.
It is shameful that VW fit these on anything with more than 120ps and 200Nm. Makes me wonder how poor they're going to be in the winter. As most of my miles are plodding along on my commute right now rather than fun miles while the car is running in (still keeping an eye out for something else on the job-front) and the weather is warm, i'm not in a huge rush to change them.
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Rebecca.
Hello from sunny Athens.
I posted this today on the R Forum which you might find useful:
Thank you.
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If I were to buy a replacement set, i'd be getting Michelin PSS - You can get them from Costco £149 a corner fully fitted, if they had one of their £100 voucher deals on right now i'd almost certainly be buying a set.
It is shameful that VW fit these on anything with more than 120ps and 200Nm. Makes me wonder how poor they're going to be in the winter. As most of my miles are plodding along on my commute right now rather than fun miles while the car is running in (still keeping an eye out for something else on the job-front) and the weather is warm, i'm not in a huge rush to change them.
Agree wholeheartedly. The Bridgstones really have no place on this type of car.
If I do have the misfortune to get them on my R and decide they have to go, likewise I will be going for Michelin PSS. That's a good price. I'm not a member of Costco so would probably source them elsewhere online.
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I've just ordered 4 Dunlop sport maxx rt to be fitted next week. Got them for 90 quid each fitted from VW of all places. What I've found with the conti 2's is they have rapidly gone to 2mm from just above 3 about a month ago granted I've been to Skye and back but I don't drive like an idiot. Going to give the Dunlop's a go and at 90 quid each why not.
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Rebecca.
Hello from sunny Athens.
I posted this today on the R Forum which you might find useful:
Thank you.
My pleasure.
In summary:
For Golf 7GTI with 18" wheels it is Conti 5P (came first), Pirelli (came second), Michelin PSS ?? (not reviewed in 18").
For Golf 7R with 19" wheels it is Pirelli (first), Conti 5P (second but noisy), Hankook (very close third with 0.1 point difference for wet and dry grip, very quiet), Michelin PSS ?? (reviewed on M4 with mixed 19" tyres, came second after the Hankook).
Hankook are the quietist tyres from the above list. Conti tyres are the nosiest.
Now all we need is a few buying Conti 5Ps, Pirellis, Michelins and Hankooks and reporting back.
Anything is better than the Bridgestones.
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I switched from Bridgstones to PS3s a couple of months ago and never looked back! :-)
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Rebecca.
Hello from sunny Athens.
I posted this today on the R Forum which you might find useful:
Thank you.
My pleasure.
In summary:
For Golf 7GTI with 18" wheels it is Conti 5P (came first), Pirelli (came second), Michelin PSS ?? (not reviewed in 18").
For Golf 7R with 19" wheels it is Pirelli (first), Conti 5P (second but noisy), Hankook (very close third with 0.1 point difference for wet and dry grip, very quiet), Michelin PSS ?? (reviewed on M4 with mixed 19" tyres, came second after the Hankook).
Hankook are the quietist tyres from the above list. Conti tyres are the nosiest.
Now all we need is a few buying Conti 5Ps, Pirellis, Michelins and Hankooks and reporting back.
Anything is better than the Bridgestones.
And how is life in sunny Athens Asker? :cool:
No, in fact don't tell me as you'll only depress me as sit here at my desk drowning in the ever increasing work mountain :sad: :laugh: At least the sun is out-ish here today and I have managed to spend the entire morning down by the river on work business, so not all doom and gloom.
Tyres - I agree, ANYTHING is better than Bridgstones on performance cars such as these. We get fobbed off here with the Bridgstones, not so our European cousins :angry:
I read tyre tests every year and they are of interest but I have to say I take more notice of the reviews of real world users on forums etc. In terms of tyre noise, that isn't the primary concern for me, I'm much more interested in grip capabilities. My current Conti 5p's tyres are quite noisy (but otherwise brilliant), however some of that is down to the fact they are on 19's. I'm accustomed to the noise and it varies greatly depending on the road surface, of which there are myriad variations on our UK roads. I tend to listen to my music in my car at a reasonably loud volume so that wins the battle over tyre noise :whistle:
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Rebecca:
It's fab here. Wonderful weather, blue sky, sea breeze, great food. Love it. Will move here completely in 3-4 years.
More Tyre Stuff:
Nine 235/35 19" Tyres Russian Review in 2011
http://www.tyrerevie...r-Tyre-Test.htm
1st Conti 5P with Rim Protection: 5mm.
2nd Pirelli P Zero with Rim Protection: 2.5mm.
3rd Hankook Rim Protection 2.5 mm
6th Michelin PSS. Rim Protection 4.5mm
8th Bridgestone RE050 with Rim Protection 5.5 mm
Also, tyre weights have been measured.
Lightest Tyre Conti 5P: 9.6 kgs.
Heaviest Goodyear: 11.5 kgs.
Michelin PSS: 10.1 kgs,
Bridgestone 11.1 kgs.
A really comprehensive review.
Nine 235/35 19" Tyres Auto Review 2012
http://www.tyrerevie...r-Tyre-Test.htm
1st Pirelli P Zero
2nd Goodyear F1 Assy 2
3rd Hankook
4th Michelin PSS
5th Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT
6th Toyo
7th Conti 5P
8th Bridgestone S001
Seven Tyres 235/35 19" Auto Bild 2015
http://www.tyrerevie...e-Tyre-Test.htm
1st Hankook
2nd Michelin PSS
3rd Goodyear F1 Assy 2
4th Vredestein
5th Conti 5P
More Reviews
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2014-Auto-Review-Max-Performance-Tyre-Test.htm - 255/40 R19 front tyres, and 285/35 R19 rear tyres in 2011
1st Conti 5P
2nd Michelin PSS
3rd Hankook
4th Goodyear
Five Top five Summer Tyres in 2015
http://www.tyrerevie...mance-Tyres.htm
1st Michelin PSS
2nd Goodyear F1 Assy 2
3rd Hankook
4th Pirelli P Zero
5th Nokian
Seven 245/40 R18 Sport Auto Max Performance Summer Tyre Test 2011
http://www.tyrerevie...r-Tyre-Test.htm
1st Michelin PSS
2nd Pirelli P Zero
4th Bridgestone S001
6th Dunlop Sport Maxx GT
Interesting figures regarding Rim Protection. Pirelli and Hankook are not very good: with 2.5mm and 3mm Rim Protection. Unless they have improved on this since 2011, it could rule them out. Best Rim Protection is Bridgestone: 5.5mm, followed by Conti: 5mm, Michelin/Goodyear 4.5mm.
Lightest Tyre Conti 5P.
Michelin PSS is optimised for dry handling and road holding and is not very good in the wet.
NEWSFLASH: I have also read that there is a ContiSportContact 6 in the pipeline and soon to be released!
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Such impressive analytical detail! You obviously have far too much time on your hands Asker :kiss: (I'm just jealous really).
You could tie yourself in knots going through every review and nver make a decision. I'm still going for Michelin PSS's though (if change becomes necessary). Might be a start to have an actual R first :whistle: :laugh:
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Such impressive analytical detail! You obviously have far too much time on your hands Asker :kiss: (I'm just jealous really).
You could tie yourself in knots going through every review and nver make a decision. I'm still going for Michelin PSS's though (if change becomes necessary). Might be a start to have an actual R first :whistle: :laugh:
I was lying on a couch on the balcony and instead of snoozing, looked through a few more reviews. Glad you have made a decision. But remember, PSS are p!ss in the wet! :laugh:
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Such impressive analytical detail! You obviously have far too much time on your hands Asker :kiss: (I'm just jealous really).
You could tie yourself in knots going through every review and nver make a decision. I'm still going for Michelin PSS's though (if change becomes necessary). Might be a start to have an actual R first :whistle: :laugh:
I was lying on a couch on the balcony and instead of snoozing, looked through a few more reviews. Glad you have made a decision. But remember, PSS are p!ss in the wet! :laugh:
What a life of sheer unabashed luxury you lead :kiss:
P!ss or not in the wet. I'll take my chances with the PSS over the Bridgestones any day of the week :tongue:
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Rebecca:
Good + perfect choice.
The PSS is the safest bet IMO. None of the others is worth the risk with respect to noise, wear, handling, grip and ride. Some tyres start out great but deteriorate really badly within a few thousand miles. The PSS has been developed with Michelin's deep knowledge of Le Mans. It is the most consistently performing tyre throughout its life.
Mytyres have them at really good prices: fully fitted £112.60 each or not fitted £98.60 each. Black Circles have run out when I looked earlier. Also, VW will match prices pretty closely. A few pounds here or there is of no significant consequence.
I am almost probably going to change to PSS tyres if the noise problem is solely due to the S001 tyres and not due to a problem strut especially on the front passenger side as I am more aware of noise emanating from the front passenger foot well. Will be driving one or two Rs to compare when I get back. Besides, the Bridgestones ruin steering accuracy. Michelin PSS tyres will make the R and not break it like the Bridgestones.
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The only issue I have with Michelins is they don't seem to be the top tyre in any category just a jack of all trades. Tyres seem to be very subjective for people and my problem if I can't make my mind up haha I was all set for Dunlop rt's then changed to conti 5's then I'm back to Dunlop's and now I just don't know.
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I think there is some confusion on the wet weather performance here on the Michelin front, Pilot Super Sports get an A rating from memory in the size i have for wet weather performance and F for fuel, db rating is 71
Michelin Pilot Sport Cups 2s are the lesser wet weather performers
The super sports were excellent with no traction control and 350 on a wet track so good its laughable and at just over £100 notes a corner i don't mind burning through these
Depending on my conversation with DMack over some issues with their tyres a set of Sport Cup 2s may be going on for track work as they now appear in 225/40 fitment
My criteria is wet weather and dry weather performance, i don't really care less, on a 300+ car I'm not exactly two worried about the fuel economy
The SS are wearing well, after the initial thrashing they cleaned up and have been fine since, i also kept these on the R in winter and were fine except for sub zero days
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Rebecca:
Good + perfect choice.
The PSS is the safest bet IMO. None of the others is worth the risk with respect to noise, wear, handling, grip and ride. Some tyres start out great but deteriorate really badly within a few thousand miles. The PSS has been developed with Michelin's deep knowledge of Le Mans. It is the most consistently performing tyre throughout its life.
Mytyres have them at really good prices: fully fitted £112.60 each or not fitted £98.60 each. Black Circles have run out when I looked earlier. Also, VW will match prices pretty closely. A few pounds here or there is of no significant consequence.
I am almost probably going to change to PSS tyres if the noise problem is solely due to the S001 tyres and not due to a problem strut especially on the front passenger side as I am more aware of noise emanating from the front passenger foot well. Will be driving one or two Rs to compare when I get back. Besides, the Bridgestones ruin steering accuracy. Michelin PSS tyres will make the R and not break it like the Bridgestones.
What happened to "they are p!ss in the wet" :laugh: :kiss:
That's a great price. Will be a bit pricier for me as they'll be 19s. Assuming they are 235/35/R19 Y (91) then:
Mytyres £164/£150 each fitted/not fitted; Blackcircles £173/£156 fitted/not fitted; Camskill £143 not fitted.
I'm not rushing out to buy any just yet. Strange as it may seem, I think I should at least wait until I have the car in my possession. My R is still on unconfirmed build week 34 from today's dealer update. Who knows, maybe between now and then, there will be some cosmic event and it will come shod with beautiful Conti 5s (I can dream). The chances are they will not, and I will change the BS for PSS :wink:
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I think there is some confusion on the wet weather performance here on the Michelin front, Pilot Super Sports get an A rating from memory in the size i have for wet weather performance and F for fuel, db rating is 71
Michelin Pilot Sport Cups 2s are the lesser wet weather performers
The super sports were excellent with no traction control and 350 on a wet track so good its laughable and at just over £100 notes a corner i don't mind burning through these
Depending on my conversation with DMack over some issues with their tyres a set of Sport Cup 2s may be going on for track work as they now appear in 225/40 fitment
My criteria is wet weather and dry weather performance, i don't really care less, on a 300+ car I'm not exactly two worried about the fuel economy
The SS are wearing well, after the initial thrashing they cleaned up and have been fine since, i also kept these on the R in winter and were fine except for sub zero days
Thanks for clarifying wigit.
It was partly your earlier posted thoughts on the PSS that swayed me in their favour. Setting aside track specific c performance, my criteria for tyres is much the same as yours. I'm not fussed about noise or mpg either.
The 19's are A rated for wet grip and E for fuel. But £100 per corner?? Is that for 18's?
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The only issue I have with Michelins is they don't seem to be the top tyre in any category just a jack of all trades. Tyres seem to be very subjective for people and my problem if I can't make my mind up haha I was all set for Dunlop rt's then changed to conti 5's then I'm back to Dunlop's and now I just don't know.
They are subjective, so just pick a tyre and stick with it :grin:
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That's the problem I can't pick. I can get Dunlop, Goodyear, conti or Michelin and I'm leaving the conti 2's on the rears until they need doing. Both Dunlop and Goodyear are c rated for fuel while both the conti and Michelin are e for fuel. What's the better option?? Sensible answers please and I'm going tomorrow to try and get some.
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EU Tyre ratings mean sod all just like the EU Fuel Cycles.
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And your recommendation would be asker??
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I would narrow it down to the Michelins and Conti 5's.
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Thanks Rebecca. I know it's just tyres but they are doing my head in :grin:
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Thanks Rebecca. I know it's just tyres but they are doing my head in :grin:
Not just tyres! The only thing keeping your car stuck to the road.
Are you on 18's mcmaddy?
Obviously I haven't tried the Michelin PSS yet (give me a few months), but I am confident they won't disappoint and am willing to take a punt on them.
I have however been running Conti 5p's (19s) for last 3 years and cannot recommend them highly enough. I would have them again in a heartbeat but fancy a change. They are not the longest wearing - I got 13k out of my first set of fronts, and they offer very little in the way of rim protection (even the version with rim protector) BUT, the grip in wet and dry is faultless.
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Yes I'm on 18's. I've got 15k out of the conti 2's on the front and the rears still have 4mm+ left. I'll be out trying to get some 5's tomorrow.
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Yes I'm on 18's. I've got 15k out of the conti 2's on the front and the rears still have 4mm+ left. I'll be out trying to get some 5's tomorrow.
Yeah my fronts had about 3mm left when I decided to change them. Let us know what you think of the Conti 5's.
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EU Tyre ratings mean sod all just like the EU Fuel Cycles.
In fairness i'd take that as a benchmark over and above the drivel i read on tyres on a lot of forums and reviews, i'm sure a few Rentals will be having nanking ditch finders on as they were on offer for £80 a corner
My comments are based from actually having them based on the feedback from others whose opinions i rate and value as they know what the are talking about, also having had the chance to test them in a manner i'd never dare contemplate on the road, the key for me is they are very predicable in the wet and dry as well and i now understand the pressure sensitives are, however, this could be seen as absolute drivel by my own comments above
I'm sure contis are great to but do not fit my criteria of where i need things to perform, i like a bit of confidence at 150+ on the autobahn so tyres is a pretty serious deal for me
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I'm sure the conti would be just as capable at 150+buy they probably wouldn't last too long on a track :whistle:
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I've had Contis in the past and were great tyres and these are rather a good buy at the moment
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As I have said previously, for the here and now, Michelin PSS are my choice of tyre. However, if you wait 6 months or so, Goodyear and Continental will be releasing new performance tyres. But then so might Michelin.
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THE FINAL SUMMARY:
Michelin PSS:
The best tyre in the dry. Best for handling and steering feel. Their wet performance, though slightly down comparatively, is also very good and with the 4WD R they should be more than fine. They are also considered to be reasonably quiet. Good rim Protection 4.5mm. Mid weight at 10.1 kgs.
Pirelli P Zero;
Another excellent tyre but not popular with owners of performance Golfs. So perhaps I would remove this from your choice list. Rim protection 3 mm. Not good. Weight 9.8 kgs. Second lightest.
*Came 2nd Evo test 2015 with GTI Mk7, 18" wheels.
*Came 1st on Golf 7R, 19" wheels, Sport Auto Review 2015.
Continental ContiSportContact 5P:
Some performance Golfs come fitted with these and owners are generally very happy with them. However, they are noisy in comparison to the Michelin and Pirelli. Considered a very a noisy tyre which would put me off. Audi S3s come equipped with these. Rim protection 5mm. Lightest tyre at 9.6 kgs.[/b]
*Came 1st Evo test 2015 with GTI Mk7, 18" wheels.
*Came 3rd on Golf 7R, 19" wheels after the Pirelli and Hankook, Sport Auto Review 2015.
Hankook Ventus S1 evo2:
The latest versions have won many awards and rated the top tyre for the BMW M4 in 19" size, followed by the Michelin PSS. Has not fared well with 18" wheels on a Golf GTI, but did well with 19" wheels on a Golf 7R. Considered the quietest tyre and very good in the wet. Audi TTS comes equipped with these. Hopeless rim protection on old versions of 2.5mm. Old version weight 10.2 kgs.
*Came 8th out of 10 Evo test 2015 with Golf GTI Mk7, 18" wheels. Bridgestone S001 tyres came last.
*Came 2nd on Golf 7R, 19" wheels after the Pirelli, Sport Auto Review 2015.
Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2:
A very balanced tyre. Does everything well but does not really excel at anything. Will work well on most cars. Old version weight 11.5 kg (heaviest). Rim Protection (old version) 4.5 mm.
*Came 3rd Evo test 2015 with GTI Mk7, 18" wheels.
Goodyear is bringing out a new performance tyre next year which should be very good as is Continental. So perhaps you should wait until then. I will probably do the same, that is unless the Bridgestones drive me to distraction and destruction!
For the here and now, my choice of tyre for 18" wheels on a Mk7 Performance Golf and specifically the Golf 7R, would be the Michelin PSS, even though they have not been reviewed on this car. Is this a risk worth taking? It is more of a calculated risk and worth taking. For myself, the PSS is the 'safest' bet. None of the other tyres is worth the risk with respect to noise, wear, handling, grip and ride. Some tyres start out great but deteriorate really badly within a few thousand miles. The PSS has been developed with Michelin's deep knowledge of Le Mans. The PSS will most probably be the most consistently performing tyre throughout its life.
For 19" wheels, I would still go for the Michelin PSS tyres even though they have not been reviewed on the Golf 7R.. Most owners love this tyre and I will take their recommendations seriously. For 19" tyres reviewed on this car, I would go for Pirelli followed by Hankook, but their Rim Protection might still be lousy. If this is the case then go with the reviewed Conti 5P tyres.
The really difficult aspect is choosing the best manufacturer for a particular wheel size. No one manufacturer is best for all wheel sizes. Who is best for 18" is different for 19". Plus, the choice of tyre is very car dependent.
One very clear conclusion: Bridgestone Tyres are the worst.
Hope all this helps a bit.
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A final, final summary:......
....Hope all this helps a bit.
Intense attention to detail as always Asker :smiley:
Here's my final, final summary:
I'm getting Michelin PSS 19" - in 4 or 5 months
You are getting Michelin PSS 18" in 1 or 2 months
Mcmaddy is getting ContiSportContact 5's 18" today.
Wigit already has his Michelin PSS and is miles ahead of us all.
:laugh:
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A final, final summary:......
....Hope all this helps a bit.
Intense attention to detail as always Asker :smiley:
Here's my final, final summary:
I'm getting Michelin PSS 19" - in 4 or 5 months
You are getting Michelin PSS 18" in 1 or 2 months
Mcmaddy is getting ContiSportContact 5's 18" today.
Wigit already has his Michelin PSS and is miles ahead of us all.
:laugh:
:wink: You know why? :kiss: :laugh:
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Wigit already has his Michelin PSS and is miles ahead of us all.
:laugh:
Keep up at the back, August 2014 they went on
Looking forward to see how the Sport Cup 2s in 225/40/R18 perform as part of my benchmarking with the stop watch
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One of the members (Bronze Partner) has already got Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres on his R.
This is what he says:
Ive changed from Bridgestone to Michelin pilot sport cup 2s. Arguably the best road tyre without going down the route of track day specific loud tyres.
They are absolute brilliant in pretty much any circumstance. They are a world away from the last cup tyre. Grip on the dry is just unreal. In the wet they are great too...they will slip ever so slightly when it's very very wet with a lot of standing water on the exits of corners etc but I think most tyres would in similar circumstances. In the damp they are great too
Honestly not noticed an increase in noise. Tyre wear God knows, not that bothered. I wanted all our performance which I now have. I've done about 3-4k on them and can't see much of a change in the tread depth. Highly recommended
They don't appear to have Rim Protection when checking this on the Mytyres site.
£177 fitted and £163 not fitted from Mytyres.
A bit too costly for me.
But I am sure they are quite superb.
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Wigit already has his Michelin PSS and is miles ahead of us all.
:laugh:
Keep up at the back, August 2014 they went on
Looking forward to see how the Sport Cup 2s in 225/40/R18 perform as part of my benchmarking with the stop watch
:grin:
You've well and truly confused me now!
Keep us informed on the SPC 2's - always interested in that type of thing.
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One of the members (Bronze Partner) has already got Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres on his R.
This is what he says:
Ive changed from Bridgestone to Michelin pilot sport cup 2s. Arguably the best road tyre without going down the route of track day specific loud tyres.
They are absolute brilliant in pretty much any circumstance. They are a world away from the last cup tyre. Grip on the dry is just unreal. In the wet they are great too...they will slip ever so slightly when it's very very wet with a lot of standing water on the exits of corners etc but I think most tyres would in similar circumstances. In the damp they are great too
Honestly not noticed an increase in noise. Tyre wear God knows, not that bothered. I wanted all our performance which I now have. I've done about 3-4k on them and can't see much of a change in the tread depth. Highly recommended
They don't appear to have Rim Protection when checking this on the Mytyres site.
£177 fitted and £163 not fitted from Mytyres.
A bit too costly for me.
But I am sure they are quite superb.
Useful review :smiley:
Is that price for 18's or 19's? Mytyres do seem pretty good on price generally compared to the others.
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One of the members (Bronze Partner) has already got Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres on his R.
This is what he says:
Ive changed from Bridgestone to Michelin pilot sport cup 2s. Arguably the best road tyre without going down the route of track day specific loud tyres.
They are absolute brilliant in pretty much any circumstance. They are a world away from the last cup tyre. Grip on the dry is just unreal. In the wet they are great too...they will slip ever so slightly when it's very very wet with a lot of standing water on the exits of corners etc but I think most tyres would in similar circumstances. In the damp they are great too
Honestly not noticed an increase in noise. Tyre wear God knows, not that bothered. I wanted all our performance which I now have. I've done about 3-4k on them and can't see much of a change in the tread depth. Highly recommended
They don't appear to have Rim Protection when checking this on the Mytyres site.
£177 fitted and £163 not fitted from Mytyres.
A bit too costly for me.
But I am sure they are quite superb.
Useful review :smiley:
Is that price for 18's or 19's? Mytyres do seem pretty good on price generally compared to the others.
Being no size queen, that is the price for 18".
For 235/35 R19 91Y XL from Mytyres:
Not fitted: £198.50
Fitted: £212.50
XL = Extra Load
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Being no size queen, that is the price for 18".
For 235/35 R19 91Y XL from Mytyres:
Not fitted: £198.50
Fitted: £212.50
XL = Extra Load
I am a size queen! Cheers darlin' :kiss:
They're not cheap are they :shocked: I'll stick with the PSS, because I'm a cheapskate.
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Being no size queen, that is the price for 18".
For 235/35 R19 91Y XL from Mytyres:
Not fitted: £198.50
Fitted: £212.50
XL = Extra Load
I am a size queen! Cheers darlin' :kiss:
They're not cheap are they :shocked: I'll stick with the PSS, because I'm a cheapskate.
So pleased you are an SQ!!! (Not an SQ3 or SQ5 Audi). :laugh:
Not cheap at all. Great for track use.
PSS will be better in the wet.
The PSC2 Tyres are rated as C for wet grip (PSS are A), Fuel Efficiency E (PSS are F), Noise Emission 71dB (PSS is the same). Also, PSC2 don't seem to have Rim Protection, whereas the PSS have a Rim Protection Ridge.
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I've duffed the conti 5s as not one garage could confirm what was going to turn up. I asked for the E and A rated contis but everyone I spoke to said I can only get c and b rated. I'm now going for Michelin ps3s from Costco at 85 quid each seeing as though MH (Matt) keeps raving about them :grin:
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Here you go. Australian Review of the Conti 5P, Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2, Bridgestone RE050 etc on a Merc A45 AMG with 235/35 R19 tyres.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2015-Australian-Motor-235-35-R19-Tyre-Test.htm
1st Conti 5P - As expected
2nd Michelin PSC2 - Bad in the wet, great in the dry
3rd Bridgestone RE050 - Shock and horror!
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I am a size queen! Cheers darlin' :kiss:
They're not cheap are they :shocked: I'll stick with the PSS, because I'm a cheapskate.
So pleased you are an SQ!!! (Not an SQ3 or SQ5 Audi). :laugh:
Not cheap at all. Great for track use.
PSS will be better in the wet.
The PSC2 Tyres are rated as C for wet grip (PSS are A), Fuel Efficiency E (PSS are F), Noise Emission 71dB (PSS is the same). Also, PSC2 don't seem to have Rim Protection, whereas the PSS have a Rim Protection Ridge.
Just a plain and simple SQ, and only where wheels are concerned :wink: :whistle: :laugh:
And no Audi 4x4 monstrosity for me thank you very much!
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I've duffed the conti 5s as not one garage could confirm what was going to turn up. I asked for the E and A rated contis but everyone I spoke to said I can only get c and b rated. I'm now going for Michelin ps3s from Costco at 85 quid each seeing as though MH (Matt) keeps raving about them :grin:
You've ruined my final final summary :angry: :laugh:
So, now the final, final, final summary:
I'm getting Michelin PSS 19" - in 4 or 5 months
Asker is getting Michelin PSS 18" in 1 or 2 months
Mcmaddy is getting Michelin PS3's 18" very soon.
Wigit - has confused me and no idea now.
:laugh:
I thought MH was going for Michelin PSS? :huh:
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You've ruined my final final summary :angry: :laugh:
So, now the final, final, final summary:
I'm getting Michelin PSS 19" - in 4 or 5 months
Asker is getting Michelin PSS 18" in 1 or 2 months
Mcmaddy is getting Michelin PS3's 18" very soon.
Wigit - has confused me and no idea now.
:laugh:
I thought MH was going for Michelin PSS? :huh:
On a FWD Mk7 GTI the Michelin PS3 came 5th. The Conti 5 tyres are No.1 followed by the Pirelli. In 2015 Evo Review.
According to the 2015 Auto Express Review (17" tyres on a Golf), the PS3 is the noisiest tyre, ranks at No.3. The Conti 5 is again No.1 and is 4th regarding noise.
If one does not want the PSS in 18" for whatever reason, and one cannot source the A/E Conti 5 tyres, then best to go for Pirelli P Zero (A/E rated, 72dB) or Goodyear Eagle F1 Assy 2 (A/C rated, 70dB).
18" Conti 5 A/E, 72dB tyres are available from Blackcircles at £103.62 fitted or £82.02 mail order.
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Caring for the superb Michelin PSS tyres:
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Caring-for-your-performance-tyres-Michelin-Pilot-SuperSport.htm
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I thought MH was going for Michelin PSS? :huh:
Spending 90% of my miles plodding along the A19 between 50 and 80mph in straight lines to my new job at the moment, it's all been pretty mundane - not feeling the need to change yet (not been scared by the Bridgestone's lack of grip yet), the 4WD of the R hasn't allowed any initial traction issues when I put my foot down from a standstill (my main gripe with them on my GTD) and i've just passed 1000 miles today, so early days - although the longer I have them on the less likely someone is going to want to buy them. On this commute, the R feels like it is going to waste - I could fling the GTD around a bit on my old commute on varied roads. I need a new job that puts my commute on winding country roads!
A small part of me believes I would be having more fun in a MK3 TT 184TDI with a DTUK box on, hammering it and never seeing less than 45mpg rather than driving the R quite sensibly with the odd spurt of speed - the R seems to really leave the competition behind above 80mph, but I value my license too much to be taking real advantage of that fact! Below 80mph, unless you're absolutely wringing it's neck to 6k revs, it doesn't feel as quick as it is (the MK7 refinement overshadowing thrills again most likely).
One thing I have realised this week is that Tesco Momentum 99 is the best fuel the car has sampled yet for smoothness and mpg (and 5p/L cheaper than Shell V-Power also).
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...... it doesn't feel as quick as it is (the MK7 refinement overshadowing thrills again most likely).
One thing I have realised this week is that Tesco Momentum 99 is the best fuel the car has sampled yet for smoothness and mpg (and 5p/L cheaper than Shell V-Power also).
Matt:
Don't think the Mk7 is refined. The R for me is noisy mainly due to the Bridgestones. Now our BMW is truly refined on all road surfaces which the R is not. But I do love my R as it has oodles of that fun factor that is when I can access it. I can see why it is pointless you upgrading the tyres to the PSS.
As for Tesco, I have only been once into one and we don't have one nearby. Have 4 Shell Petrol Stations within a 1-2 mile radius. Am very happy with Shell.
Pity your commute to work is so tedious. It also seems that the new job is not lighting your fire either. Time for a change?
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I thought MH was going for Michelin PSS? :huh:
Spending 90% of my miles plodding along the A19 between 50 and 80mph in straight lines to my new job at the moment, it's all been pretty mundane - not feeling the need to change yet (not been scared by the Bridgestone's lack of grip yet), the 4WD of the R hasn't allowed any initial traction issues when I put my foot down from a standstill (my main gripe with them on my GTD) and i've just passed 1000 miles today, so early days - although the longer I have them on the less likely someone is going to want to buy them. On this commute, the R feels like it is going to waste - I could fling the GTD around a bit on my old commute on varied roads. I need a new job that puts my commute on winding country roads!
A small part of me believes I would be having more fun in a MK3 TT 184TDI with a DTUK box on, hammering it and never seeing less than 45mpg rather than driving the R quite sensibly with the odd spurt of speed - the R seems to really leave the competition behind above 80mph, but I value my license too much to be taking real advantage of that fact! Below 80mph, unless you're absolutely wringing it's neck to 6k revs, it doesn't feel as quick as it is (the MK7 refinement overshadowing thrills again most likely).
One thing I have realised this week is that Tesco Momentum 99 is the best fuel the car has sampled yet for smoothness and mpg (and 5p/L cheaper than Shell V-Power also).
Are you happy with your decision to change to the R as you don't sound it in recent posts ?
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I thought MH was going for Michelin PSS? :huh:
Spending 90% of my miles plodding along the A19 between 50 and 80mph in straight lines to my new job at the moment, it's all been pretty mundane - not feeling the need to change yet (not been scared by the Bridgestone's lack of grip yet), the 4WD of the R hasn't allowed any initial traction issues when I put my foot down from a standstill (my main gripe with them on my GTD) and i've just passed 1000 miles today, so early days - although the longer I have them on the less likely someone is going to want to buy them. On this commute, the R feels like it is going to waste - I could fling the GTD around a bit on my old commute on varied roads. I need a new job that puts my commute on winding country roads!
A small part of me believes I would be having more fun in a MK3 TT 184TDI with a DTUK box on, hammering it and never seeing less than 45mpg rather than driving the R quite sensibly with the odd spurt of speed - the R seems to really leave the competition behind above 80mph, but I value my license too much to be taking real advantage of that fact! Below 80mph, unless you're absolutely wringing it's neck to 6k revs, it doesn't feel as quick as it is (the MK7 refinement overshadowing thrills again most likely).
One thing I have realised this week is that Tesco Momentum 99 is the best fuel the car has sampled yet for smoothness and mpg (and 5p/L cheaper than Shell V-Power also).
MH - sounds like the job is not living up to expectations which is very unfortunate. Possibly the car not living up to expectation either, but perhaps that's because of the dull commute? Anything else on the horizon job wise? At least you can stick at it whilst looking around for something better, preferably at the end of a long windy route so you can stretch the R's legs a bit more :smiley:
Although I work in the city here, I have the opportunity every day to drive lots of twisty rural roads, so that's where I'll be having some fun in my R, as I do now in the Mk6 GTI.
The choice of petrol stations around here is woeful, mainly Esso and some supermarkets, our local Sainsbury doesn't have a petrol station. Whenever I can, I use Shell which is 7 miles away but I make work site trips to coincide with fuel fill ups. Never tried Tesco (not my usual shopping place) but that's also 7 miles away too.
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Are you happy with your decision to change to the R as you don't sound it in recent posts ?
I'm just not being wowed by it right now - mainly due to the very mundane commute making up most of my miles which doesn't allow me to put my foot down, and the fact i'm not liking the new job very much right now, so driving to work doesn't put me in a great mood while behind the wheel. The car does get plenty of compliments though.
It's a canny bunch at my level in the new place, but their turnover of staff is horrendous as the operators are pretty poorly paid for what they are required to do and the place is run on a shoestring as far as staffing levels go. The parent company have just bought a similar operation down south that has 4 times the staffing levels for roughly the same output, that's how thinly spread our lot is. On the bright side, my redundancy cheque from the last job hit the bank!
It's a job for looking for a job I think!
There's a Tesco about 1/4 of a mile from the place of work, but none within 15 miles of where I live.
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Matt:
It's time you moved down to the Sunny South and particularly to the Big Smoke. It's all happening here, plus you can pop over to France, Belgium, Holland and Germany in a heartbeat.
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Matt:
It's time you moved down to the Sunny South and particularly to the Big Smoke. It's all happening here, plus you can pop over to France, Belgium, Holland and Germany in a heartbeat.
If I recall from a previous conversion, MH used to live down south and moved back north, so maybe been there, done that?
I remember we talked about how people had nicer cars up north and the more basic models down south because the southerners have spent all their money on property :laugh: When I go home to Yorkshire I definitely see better cars in greater numbers.
Hope you find something better soon MH. North or South.
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Matt:
It's time you moved down to the Sunny South and particularly to the Big Smoke. It's all happening here, plus you can pop over to France, Belgium, Holland and Germany in a heartbeat.
London's not for me - I love being a tourist and visiting the place, but I don't think i'd like to live there. We might not get the weather but it's much friendlier up here and I wouldn't have to spend half my wages servicing the mortgage. :wink:
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Matt:
It's time you moved down to the Sunny South and particularly to the Big Smoke. It's all happening here, plus you can pop over to France, Belgium, Holland and Germany in a heartbeat.
London's not for me - I love being a tourist and visiting the place, but I don't think i'd like to live there. We might not get the weather but it's much friendlier up here and I wouldn't have to spend half my wages servicing the mortgage. :wink:
There's more to the south than London :whistle: I've never felt truly at home in Canterbury. I loved living near Bath though.
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Matt:
It's time you moved down to the Sunny South and particularly to the Big Smoke. It's all happening here, plus you can pop over to France, Belgium, Holland and Germany in a heartbeat.
If I recall from a previous conversion, MH used to live down south and moved back north, so maybe been there, done that?
I remember we talked about how people had nicer cars up north and the more basic models down south because the southerners have spent all their money on property :laugh: When I go home to Yorkshire I definitely see better cars in greater numbers.
Hope you find something better soon MH. North or South.
Yep, I spent the second half of my childhood in Southampton and was back up in the North East as soon as I turned 18 and went to Uni. My mates down there are all on the bones of their arse because they've got a mortgage twice the size of mine for a house half the size. My mates down there are all in £500 scrappers. :grin:
Anyway, when I manage to get a bit more excitement in the commute i'll be getting the R some new shoes. There's a few pharmaceutical companies up the Northumberland coast from mine that I wouldn't mind driving to on a daily basis.
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Matt:
I forgot about that little thing called a mortgage as I don't have one. Yes, it can be a damned killer especially with London Property Prices which are still going through the roof especially in my area. Lucky me. I can see you have a better quality of life in the NE with the lower cost of living. However, it would drive me mad being anywhere that is not as diverse as London. ETTO.
Rebecca:
I agree. Could happily move to Bath on a short term basis. Just love it and the countryside around. The only problem is that I am a Francophile and love popping over there at least a dozen times a year to the Fair Land of France. It is so easy from London.
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Rebecca:
I agree. Would happily move to Bath. Just love it to bits and the countryside around. The only problem is that I am a Francophile and love popping over there at least a dozen times a year. It is so easy from London.
My sister lives over Bath way so I have plenty of opportunity to visit still. Gorgeous landscape and a very cosmopolitan city :smiley: Used to live in Bradford-on-Avon. Do you know it?
Yes, France is very conveniently and speedily accessed from the South East. I did used to make an annual trip to St Malo in Brittany every year from the West Country via ferry, but it was a hell of a long boat trip.
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I don't think the ps3s were in that 17" autoexpress test and looking at all the sites they are rated at 72 which is exactly the same as the conti 5s. I must say i do love the conti 2s and would go conti 5 but seeing as the ps3s work out at 85 quid each i don't think they'll they be any different to the conti 5s.
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Matt:
It's time you moved down to the Sunny South and particularly to the Big Smoke. It's all happening here, plus you can pop over to France, Belgium, Holland and Germany in a heartbeat.
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Was in London for a meeting two weeks ago, the air was like breathing treacle. Coming from Cornwall I really noticed it. Other than that I love a short visit as its such a change from where I live.
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Wigit - has confused me and no idea now.
:laugh:
Booth in order to clarify in the wigit household
18 Rotary with oem Bridgestone
19 Prets with oem Bridgestones
18 TSW with PSS
18 TD 1.2s with Dmack Trackday
18 Rotary with Hankook Winters
Pilot Sport Cup 2s will replace the Dmack for playtime
Bridgestones on the Prets to go on some lightweight Revo 19s as I need to wear them out
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Wigit - has confused me and no idea now.
:laugh:
Booth in order to clarify in the digit household
18 Rotary with oem Bridgestone
19 Prets with oem Bridgestones
18 TSW with PSS
18 TD 1.2s with Dmack Trackday
18 Rotary with Hankook Winters
Pilot Sport Cup 2s will replace the Dmack for playtime
Bridgestones on the Prets to go on some lightweight Revo 19s as I need to wear them out
Well that's some collection wigit. You need to build that wheel room pronto :smiley:
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I don't think the ps3s were in that 17" autoexpress test and looking at all the sites they are rated at 72 which is exactly the same as the conti 5s. I must say i do love the conti 2s and would go conti 5 but seeing as the ps3s work out at 85 quid each i don't think they'll they be any different to the conti 5s.
I'd still pick Conti 5's over these. Can't you order online and wait a week or so till they arrive?
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I'd still pick Conti 5's over these. Can't you order online and wait a week or so till they arrive?
I agree. The PS3 tyres are very noisy (noisiest tyre in 17" size) and rank No.5 for 18" size.
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I've got one last place to try today for the conti 5s.
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French Company Pneus (pneu means tyre in French) has some reasonable deals. I have used them before. It is also a good site to read customer reviews regarding each make of tyre. The Michelin PSS shows its true elevated colours.
Michelin PSS 18" 92Y tyres, F/A 71 dB rated, available for £98.12 delivered:
http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/michelin/pilot-super-sport/225-40-r18-92-y-xl-fsl.html
Reviews: http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/michelin/pilot-super-sport/225-40-r18-92-y-xl-fsl.html
Michelin PSS 19" 91Y tyres, E/A 71 dB rated, available for £142.84 delivered:
http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/michelin/pilot-super-sport/235-35-r19-91-y-xl-fsl.html
Reviews: http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/continental/conti-sportcontact-5p/235-35-r19-0-zr-xl-fr.html
Reviews: http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/michelin/pilot-super-sport/235-35-r19-91-y-xl-fsl.html
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Conti 5 18" 92Y tyres, E/A 72 dB rated, available for £81.32 delivered:
http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/continental/conti-sportcontact-5/225-40-r18-92-y-xl-fr.html
Reviews: http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/continental/conti-sportcontact-5/225-40-r18-92-y-xl-fr.html
Conti 5P (Audi) 19" 91Y tyres, C/A 72 dB rated, available for £123.76 delivered:
http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/continental/conti-sportcontact-5p/235-35-r19-tl-91-y-xl-fr-ao.html
Reviews: http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/continental/conti-sportcontact-5p/235-35-r19-tl-91-y-xl-fr-ao.html
Conti 5P (Audi Quattro) 19" 91Y tyres, F/A 72 dB rated, available for £123.50 delivered:http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/continental/conti-sportcontact-5p/235-35-r19-tl-91-y-xl-fr-r02.html
Reviews: http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/continental/conti-sportcontact-5p/235-35-r19-tl-91-y-xl-fr-r02.html
Conti 5P 19" 91ZR tyres, E/A 72 dB rated, available for £157.84 delivered:
http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/continental/conti-sportcontact-5p/235-35-r19-0-zr-xl-fr.html
Reviews: http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/continental/conti-sportcontact-5p/235-35-r19-0-zr-xl-fr.html
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4 conti 5s being fitted next Saturday. 100 a corner and I'm not looking at tyres ever again :grin: :whistle:
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Michelin PSS from National Tyres fully fitted for £136.70 each.
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4 conti 5s being fitted next Saturday. 100 a corner and I'm not looking at tyres ever again :grin: :whistle:
Until next time :whistle:
Well I'll be getting 2 new Conti 5s (19s) too in next couple weeks. My current fronts have now got nearly 14k on now (1st set lasted 13k). Just checked them and they are just over 3mm so time to change. Knew it was coming, but not exactly thrilled about having to spend £300 on new tyres 2/3 months before the car goes :cry:
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Michelin PSS 18" 92Y tyres, F/A 71 dB rated, available for £98.12 delivered:
http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/michelin/pilot-super-sport/225-40-r18-92-y-xl-fsl.html
Reviews: http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/michelin/pilot-super-sport/225-40-r18-92-y-xl-fsl.html
(Michelin PSS from National Tyres fully fitted for £136.70 each).
My VW dealer will fit and balance 4 tyres for £96 incl VAT. So it will be best to buy from Pneus and get them fitted by VW.
Total £96 + £392.48 = £488.48; which works out as £122.12 per tyre fully fitted.
If VW damage a wheel, then they will have to replace it.
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Booth,can't you swap them with the rears and take it easy until new car arrives?
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Booth,can't you swap them with the rears and take it easy until new car arrives?
Quite possibly. The rears have got 6mm on, so could get away with it.
I've been trying to remember the sequence of tyre movements on the car, having lost track of what's gone where! :embarrassed: :grin:
Iirc, the replacement for the original fronts went on the rear (in March 2014), and the rears got swapped to the front, then had a replacement for a puncture on the front (other was repairable). Ah, who knows!!! I did have it all written down but can't find it at the moment.
Anyway the car's going in for it's 3rd service next week and I'll see what they measure the tread depths at and then decide. But it's a good shout AndyG and could just well tide me over till Sept, Oct, Nov.......? :laugh:
The only other thing that might sway things towards getting new ones is if I end up selling it privately, might make it a more attractive proposition :undecided:
Take it easy...... :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Rebecca:
If you were not such an inveterate SQ, you could have had my 4 Bridgestones for the price of postage. :laugh:
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Rebecca:
If you were not such an inveterate SQ, you could have had my 4 Bridgestones for the price of postage. :laugh:
Asker, shall I personally show you where you can put your crappy cobblestones, either still on the wheels or off, your choice :whistle: :kiss:
I knew being a diehard SQ would stand me in good stead at some point. Any other junk you want to offload onto me darling :tongue: :kiss:
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It's always a plus point getting them done at vw. You show them your untouched perfect wheels before and tell them you expect them back in the same condition. 100 a corner for 4 conti 5s is a good price and I'm happy now.
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It's always a plus point getting them done at vw. You show them your untouched perfect wheels before and tell them you expect them back in the same condition. 100 a corner for 4 conti 5s is a good price and I'm happy now.
Some of don't have untouched perfect wheels :embarrassed: :cry:
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Mine are at the moment - touch wood :whistle:
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Rebecca:
If you were not such an inveterate SQ, you could have had my 4 Bridgestones for the price of postage. :laugh:
Asker, shall I personally show you where you can put your crappy cobblestones, either still on the wheels or off, your choice :whistle: :kiss:
I knew being a diehard SQ would stand me in good stead at some point. Any other junk you want to offload onto me darling :tongue: :kiss:
A most un-ladylike reaction. I am totally shocked!
Damn. Can't even give my slightly soiled rubber away. :tongue: :kiss:
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Rebecca:
If you were not such an inveterate SQ, you could have had my 4 Bridgestones for the price of postage. :laugh:
Asker, shall I personally show you where you can put your crappy cobblestones, either still on the wheels or off, your choice :whistle: :kiss:
I knew being a diehard SQ would stand me in good stead at some point. Any other junk you want to offload onto me darling :tongue: :kiss:
A most un-ladylike reaction. I am totally shocked!
Damn. Can't even give my slightly soiled rubber away. :tongue: :kiss:
You're being a bad, bad boy again :wink: :kiss:
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Just had confirmation on the R forum that the Michelin PSS tyres are much quieter than the Conti 5 tyres in 18" size. They also ride much better.
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Finally got them and my new wheels installed yesterday, and they are awesome. Much quieter and softer ride than the conti 5's. And the grip level looks promising.
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Just had confirmation on the R forum that the Michelin PSS tyres are much quieter than the Conti 5 tyres in 18" size. They also ride much better.
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Finally got them and my new wheels installed yesterday, and they are awesome. Much quieter and softer ride than the conti 5's. And the grip level looks promising.
Is this enough to convince you to order a set? Did this person originally have Bridgestones?
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Just had confirmation on the R forum that the Michelin PSS tyres are much quieter than the Conti 5 tyres in 18" size. They also ride much better.
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Finally got them and my new wheels installed yesterday, and they are awesome. Much quieter and softer ride than the conti 5's. And the grip level looks promising.
Is this enough to convince you to order a set? Did this person originally have Bridgestones?
His R came with Conti 5 tyres. One of the few.
Am totally convinced now.
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Is this enough to convince you to order a set? Did this person originally have Bridgestones?
His R came with Conti 5 tyres. One of the few.
Am totally convinced now.
That's quite interesting. My opinion of Conti 5s is they are quite a noisy tyre (albeit on 19s), but the performance is very good, so interesting that they have decided to switch.
Anyway, as this relates to 18s on an R this is hopefully music to your ears, or more literally, music is what you'll finally be able to hear :smiley:
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Just had confirmation on the R forum that the Michelin PSS tyres are much quieter than the Conti 5 tyres in 18" size. They also ride much better.
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Finally got them and my new wheels installed yesterday, and they are awesome. Much quieter and softer ride than the conti 5's. And the grip level looks promising.
Just had a read of this thread (you quoted from) on the R Forum, and maybe I'm missing something or have misread things, but it reads to me that the member in question has replaced Conti 5s on 18" Cadiz with Eagle F1s on 19" OZ wheels, not Michelin PSS?? As I say I could well be wrong but am a little confused :huh:
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Just had confirmation on the R forum that the Michelin PSS tyres are much quieter than the Conti 5 tyres in 18" size. They also ride much better.
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Finally got them and my new wheels installed yesterday, and they are awesome. Much quieter and softer ride than the conti 5's. And the grip level looks promising.
Just had a read of this thread (you quoted from) on the R Forum, and maybe I'm missing something or have misread things, but it reads to me that the member in question has replaced Conti 5s on 18" Cadiz with Eagle F1s on 19" OZ wheels, not Michelin PSS?? As I say I could well be wrong but am a little confused :huh:
You are right. My mistake. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll still go with PSS.
I blame my error on the unfolding Greek drama and eventual tragedy.
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I blame my error on the unfolding Greek drama and eventual tragedy.
Matters of much greater concern at hand. :sad:
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If you look at all the tyre ratings conti 5s and Michelins are both about 72db. It's only the Dunlop's and maybe the Goodyear's that are 68 and 70 I think. I doubt it makes any difference at all and I'd be happier with grip, wet performance and other categories before noise.
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I blame my error on the unfolding Greek drama and eventual tragedy.
Matters of much greater concern at hand. :sad:
Nightmare here for the Greeks. Banks shut all week. Queues at ATMs. Thankfully, I have plenty of Euros and Pounds in cash, so I won't starve ..... yet! People are very worried. Most I have spoken to want to stay in the Euro.
Back on topic.
Noise:
Dunlop 68dB
Goodyear 70dB
Michelin PSS 71dB
Hankook S1 Evo2 K117 71dB
Conti 5/5P 72dB
Pirelli P Zero 72dB
Bridgestone RE050 (19") 72dB
Bridgestone S001 (18") 73dB
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Nightmare here for the Greeks. Banks shut all week. Queues at ATMs. Thankfully, I have plenty of Euros and Pounds in cash, so I won't starve ..... yet! People are very worried. Most I have spoken to want to stay in the Euro.
Not good.
Shall we organise a rescue mission to bring you back to Blighty and save you from impending starvation? The food is terrible but needs must :tongue:
Or you could look into the luxury yacht suggestion. There are some amazing deals around, I've heard you can lease one for €1 a week :wink:
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Rebecca:
You are a darling, darling. :kiss:
I have plenty of funds in cash and lots of food in the house. Have all my meals beautifully cooked. Go to really good restaurants when I fancy it. Taxis are very, very cheap here, which is my main mode of transport. It is all pretty good value. Nay, cheap. I also travelled Business Class to Greece and can change my ticket anytime at no extra charge.
Basically, I am in clover and having a spiffing time. Maybe, I'll stay over here for an extra 1 or 2 months!
Now why is my lunch not ready? Have had two LARGE Whiskeys already and am pretty merry now. :laugh:
Tyres:
Michelin PSS all the way! Chucks away! :grin:
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Rebecca:
You are a darling, darling. :kiss:
I have plenty of funds in cash and lots of food in the house. Have all my meals beautifully cooked. Go to really good restaurants when I fancy it. Taxis are very, very cheap here, which is my main mode of transport. It is all pretty good value. Nay, cheap. I also travelled Business Class to Greece and can change my ticket anytime at no extra charge.
Basically, I am in clover and having a spiffing time. Maybe, I'll stay over here for an extra 1 or 2 months!
Now why is my lunch not ready? Have had two LARGE Whiskeys already and am pretty merry now. :laugh:
Tyres:
Michelin PSS all the way! Chucks away! :grin:
Alright Asker, no need to rub it in darling. :kiss:
As I type I'm sitting in some forlorn car park in the back of beyond, eating (not drinking :wink:) lunch out of a paper bag :cry:
Anyone for Michelin PSS? :whistle:
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Rebecca:
You are a darling, darling. :kiss:
I have plenty of funds in cash and lots of food in the house. Have all my meals beautifully cooked. Go to really good restaurants when I fancy it. Taxis are very, very cheap here, which is my main mode of transport. It is all pretty good value. Nay, cheap. I also travelled Business Class to Greece and can change my ticket anytime at no extra charge.
Basically, I am in clover and having a spiffing time. Maybe, I'll stay over here for an extra 1 or 2 months!
Now why is my lunch not ready? Have had two LARGE Whiskeys already and am pretty merry now. :laugh:
Tyres:
Michelin PSS all the way! Chucks away! :grin:
Alright Asker, no need to rub it in darling. :kiss:
As I type I'm sitting in some forlorn car park in the back of beyond, eating (not drinking :wink:) lunch out of a paper bag :cry:
Anyone for Michelin PSS? :whistle:
Oh, dearest, that's not good. Sitting and lonely is a carpark eating a meagre meal. Heart bleeds for you. Halfway through the food preparation the menu has been altered. Typical Greeks. They are so unreliable. 3rd Whiskey now! I am so pissed now that I am going for a siesta before lunch!
One good thing about this Greek induced crisis is that the Euro is dropping like a brick in value as we speak and the cost of the PSS is going down. So there is a plus side for our rubber purchase. Each PSS is already £1 cheaper since yesterday.
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Lunch is still not ready! :rolleyes:
For those who don't wish to troll through this thread, the tyre choice is as follows:
Reviewed Tyres:
18" wheels on 7GTI, Evo 2015
Ist Conti 5
2nd Pirelli P Zero
3rd Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2
Note: None of the above tested for noise, but Conti 5 tyres considered noisy, Pirelli tyres quieter.
19" wheels on 7R, German Sport Auto 2015
Ist Pirelli P Zero
2nd Conti 5P or Hankook Ventus S1 evo2
Note: Hankook is the quietest tyre, Conti 5P is very noisy.
Not reviewed with above cars:
Michelin PSS
Note: It is the most recommended tyre in 18" and 19" sizes. It is also the most expensive.
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The 1db difference between the contis and Michelins is neither here nor there. To be honest a loud fart would sound more than 1db and the contis are much cheaper and better on the wet.
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The 1db difference between the contis and Michelins is neither here nor there. To be honest a loud fart would sound more than 1db and the contis are much cheaper and better on the wet.
On a wet day you might do more than just fart with the Bridgestones on! :grin:
You off to Costco tonight Chris?
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No I'm getting the conti 5s on Saturday from Pulman in Durham.
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US Tire Rack Consumer Survey of Max Performance Summer tyres, 225/40-18:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP&width=225%2F&ratio=40&diameter=18&tireSearch=true&filter=y&autoMake=Volkswagen&autoYear=2015&autoModel=Golf+R&autoModClar=
Tire Rack Review of Michelin PSS 225/40-18:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Super+Sport&tab=Sizes&fromSurvey=true
Full Test Report:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=174
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US Tire Rack Consumer Survey of Max Performance Summer tyres, 235/36-19:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP&sortValue=0&filter=y&width=235%2F&ratio=35&diameter=19&rearWidth=255%2F&rearRatio=40&rearDiameter=17
Tire Rack Review of Michelin PSS 235/35-19
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Super+Sport&partnum=335YR9PSSXL&fromSurvey=true
Full Test Report:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=174
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Michelin PSS: Best tyre in both 18" and 19"
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US Tire Rack Consumer Survey of Max Performance Summer tyres, 235/36-19:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP&sortValue=0&filter=y&width=235%2F&ratio=35&diameter=19&rearWidth=255%2F&rearRatio=40&rearDiameter=17
Tire Rack Review of Michelin PSS 235/35-19
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Super+Sport&partnum=335YR9PSSXL&fromSurvey=true
Full Test Report:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=174
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Michelin PSS: Best tyre in both 18" and 19"
Not that I needed anymore convincing about PSS but :cool:
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You can't really use the US as a comparison as they get different tyres to us. The conti 5s don't appear anywhere.
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US Tire Rack Consumer Survey of Max Performance Summer tyres, 235/36-19:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP&sortValue=0&filter=y&width=235%2F&ratio=35&diameter=19&rearWidth=255%2F&rearRatio=40&rearDiameter=17
Tire Rack Review of Michelin PSS 235/35-19
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Super+Sport&partnum=335YR9PSSXL&fromSurvey=true
Full Test Report:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=174
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Michelin PSS: Best tyre in both 18" and 19"
Not that I needed anymore convincing about PSS but :cool:
Anything and everything for you my dearest. :kiss:
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BTW, the new Honda Type R is fitted with 235/35 R19 91Y ContiSportContact 6 tyres. Wonder how the Michelin PSS will compare with these?
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Had 4 conti 5s fitted this morning. They look great but wow do they have next to no rim protection!!
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Had 4 conti 5s fitted this morning. They look great but wow do they have next to no rim protection!!
Well, you were warned.... :rolleyes: :grin:
...and they offer very little in the way of rim protection (even the version with rim protector)...
The rim protection is terrible and that's why I have kerbed rims, not my fault at all :whistle: Let us know what you think of the performance.
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The Audi Specific (AO marked) and Merc Specific (MO marked) Conti 5 tyres appear to have good Flange/Rim Protection from what I have observed on these cars. I have not seen these tyres on a Golf.
Flange/Rim protection is so important especially with Diamond Cut wheels. Bridgestones, though a crap tyre, are quite good in this respect. Anyway, there is never enough Rim/Flange Protection. But too much it seems may affect a tyre's wet performance as evidenced with Hankook Tyres.
And that is why Michelin PSS tyres are worth every extra penny.
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The Audi Specific (AO marked) and Merc Specific (MO marked) Conti 5 tyres appear to have good Flange/Rim Protection from what I have observed on these cars. I have not seen these tyres on a Golf.
Flange/Rim protection is so important especially with Diamond Cut wheels. Bridgestones, though a crap tyre, are quite good in this respect. Anyway, there is never enough Rim/Flange Protection. But too much it seems may affect a tyre's wet performance as evidenced with Hankook Tyres.
And that is why Michelin PSS tyres are worth every extra penny.
I have the Audi specific (AO marked) rim protector version of the Conti 5ps on 3 of my wheels (one oem and the others Blackcircles supplied). I specifically telephoned Blackcircles to ensure I got this type when I had to order 2 replacement tyres. The remaining wheel is shod with the non rim protection version due to a Kwik-fit cock-up following a puncture, but that's another story. :rolleyes:
In all honesty IMO, the AO rim protector version still offers very little by way of protection. In fact I'd go as far as to say the version without rim protection may actually be marginally better (certainly no worse), due to the way the tyre edge contours into the alloy rim edge (it's a little to explain). However, aesthetically speaking, I think they look better with the protector lip and it still occasionally irritates me that I have one odd mismatched Conti 5. But not for too much longer :smiley:
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The conti 2s had a good rim protector on them and I specifically asked for the ones with the rim protector. They aren't ao Audi or mo Mercedes as these have worse ratings than the standard non model specific version. On another note what's the best product to use to colour the bright silver wheel weights.
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Rebecca:
Who said you were just a pretty face? Smart, pretty lady, that's what you are!
Your post jogged my memory. I was going to change the Bridgestone S001 tyres on my 6GTI to something different, but remember checking out the alternatives which had pathetic rim protection in comparison. So I suffered with the S001 tyres which tramped, spun and roared.
Damn it, where rubber is concerned, winning is so elastic!
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The conti 2s had a good rim protector on them and I specifically asked for the ones with the rim protector. They aren't ao Audi or mo Mercedes as these have worse ratings than the standard non model specific version. On another note what's the best product to use to colour the bright silver wheel weights.
Actually on checking, mine are specified as Audi RO2 version, which I'm pretty sure is the same as AO. But you are right these do have lower ratings; being F and B rated. This is what my oem ones were, so I ordered replacements to keep consistent. Despite the lower rating, they have been great so not sure how much improvement the E and A would offer?
Surely any black or dark grey touch in paint will do for the silver magnetic wheel weights. I make a point of requesting black ones, when I have tyres fitted. Not fussy at all :grin:
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It seems that the Bridgestone S001 and RE050 tyres have top rated Rim Protection. Tiresome tyres which provide best wheel protection but ruin the car in other ways. :rolleyes:
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Rebecca:
Who said you were just a pretty face? Smart, pretty lady, that's what you are!
Your post jogged my memory. I was going to change the Bridgestone S001 tyres on my 6GTI to something different, but remember checking out the alternatives which had pathetic rim protection in comparison. So I suffered with the S001 tyres which tramped, spun and roared.
Damn it, where rubber is concerned, winning is so elastic!
Asker, I agree. Tyres, and their relative merits are sooo elastic, and in terms of choosing the right one, it's a veritable minefield, there are so many slightly differing versions even of the same tyre!!! Just think how many people out there haven't got a clue what rubber they've got (on their cars :wink:), but I don't suppose they give it a second thought. It is for us car enthusiasts nerds to ramble on and on about. And, oh how we love to!
So, the Michelin PSS - rim protection? Illuminate me? With, without, good, bad, non-existent?? I made bookmark links to various relevant tyre sites but God knows which iPad car sub folder I've saved them in?? Think I need to indulge in a spot of virtual housekeeping :embarrassed: :laugh:
PS: you are very kind to give me the benefit of the doubt of NOT being a wizened old hag :kiss: :kiss:
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It seems that the Bridgestone S001 and RE050 tyres have top rated Rim Protection. Tiresome tyres which provide best wheel protection but ruin the car in other ways. :rolleyes:
It's a conspiracy :laugh:
You can have a great tyre but rubbish rim protection OR a poor tyre with great rim protection, but you SHALL NOT have great tyre and great rim protection. Life is cruel :grin:
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Rebecca:
There are a couple of guys on vwroc who have changed from RE050 tyres to PSS ones. I'll ask them about Rim Protection on the Michelin PSS tyres right now!
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It seems that the Bridgestone S001 and RE050 tyres have top rated Rim Protection. Tiresome tyres which provide best wheel protection but ruin the car in other ways. :rolleyes:
It's a conspiracy :laugh:
You can have a great tyre but rubbish rim protection OR a poor tyre with great rim protection, but you SHALL NOT have great tyre and great rim protection. Life is cruel :grin:
That sums it perfectly. From what I have read the Michelins are not too bad in this respect. Ah well, just have to park miles off the kerb: in the middle of the street would be safest! :grin:
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Rebecca:
There are a couple of guys on vwroc who have changed from RE050 tyres to PSS ones. I'll ask them about Rim Protection on the Michelin PSS tyres right now!
Thank you, my sweet :kiss: :smiley: :cool:
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That sums it perfectly. From what I have read the Michelins are not too bad in this respect. Ah well, just have to park miles off the kerb: in the middle of the street would be safest! :grin:
Doesn't work, trust me I tried it. You can spot my car a mile off by it's vast distance from the nearest kerb. But somehow those unruly kerbs seem to jump up and bite my wheels :whistle: :laugh:
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Rebecca:
There are a couple of guys on vwroc who have changed from RE050 tyres to PSS ones. I'll ask them about Rim Protection on the Michelin PSS tyres right now!
Thank you, my sweet :kiss: :smiley: :cool:
No, thank YOU my sweet! :kiss:
Rim Protection or lack of it is a bit like Greece. Great food, great weather, but no money. :cry:
There is a joke going around:
What is the difference between organised crime and the Tsipras govt? Crime is organised, the govt is not! So true. This lot are dangerous.
Off for a stroll in the sunshine now!
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Rim protection is a waste of time. To me its like discussing the best place to have an ashtray on a bike.
If you think the rubber is going to be strong enough to withstand the weight of a car you are going to be sadly disappointed.
The problem is, you will get folk who believe it will protect the wheel completely and no doubt disregard how close they park to the kerb thinking they are safe.
Chris, the paint on 2 of my weights has started to come off because of the pressure hose.
I've literally just bought some enamel paint to paint it back on, although not had a chance to try it yet.
http://www.humbrol.com/uk-en/paints/enamel-paints.html?dir=asc&order=humbrol_sort
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Rim protection is a waste of time. To me its like discussing the best place to have an ashtray on a bike.
If you think the rubber is going to be strong enough to withstand the weight of a car you are going to be sadly disappointed.
The problem is, you will get folk who believe it will protect the wheel completely and no doubt disregard how close they park to the kerb thinking they are safe.
Much like a condom with a hole! :grin:
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Rim protection is a waste of time. To me its like discussing the best place to have an ashtray on a bike.
That puts me in mind of something I saw last week, whilst I was sat at a traffic light junction. On the outside of me, this bloke on a push bike pulled up, riding one handed because he had a fag and a can of beer in the other. He was p!ssed out of his head and all over the place. I'll be very surprised if he's still alive. A handlebar mounted ashtray and a beer can holder would have been just the job :grin:
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Rim protection is a waste of time. To me its like discussing the best place to have an ashtray on a bike.
If you think the rubber is going to be strong enough to withstand the weight of a car you are going to be sadly disappointed.
The problem is, you will get folk who believe it will protect the wheel completely and no doubt disregard how close they park to the kerb thinking they are safe.
Chris, the paint on 2 of my weights has started to come off because of the pressure hose.
I've literally just bought some enamel paint to paint it back on, although not had a chance to try it yet.
http://www.humbrol.com/uk-en/paints/enamel-paints.html?dir=asc&order=humbrol_sort
Cheers I'll have a look.
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Rim protection is a waste of time. To me its like discussing the best place to have an ashtray on a bike.
If you think the rubber is going to be strong enough to withstand the weight of a car you are going to be sadly disappointed.
The problem is, you will get folk who believe it will protect the wheel completely and no doubt disregard how close they park to the kerb thinking they are safe.
Chris, the paint on 2 of my weights has started to come off because of the pressure hose.
I've literally just bought some enamel paint to paint it back on, although not had a chance to try it yet.
http://www.humbrol.com/uk-en/paints/enamel-paints.html?dir=asc&order=humbrol_sort
Cheers I'll have a look.
Just had a thought. I've got an old black magic touch up paint from my old Leon. Could I use that to paint the weights and then lacquer over the top?
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Rim protection is a waste of time. To me its like discussing the best place to have an ashtray on a bike.
That puts me in mind of something I saw last week, whilst I was sat at a traffic light junction. On the outside of me, this bloke on a push bike pulled up, riding one handed because he had a fag and a can of beer in the other. He was p!ssed out of his head and all over the place. I'll be very surprised if he's still alive. A handlebar mounted ashtray and a beer can holder would have been just the job :grin:
I've done something similar once. Out on my push bike, going along the coast, pass a pub and see some mates sat outside on a nice day. I stop for a pint and 8 pints later I walk the bike home.... There's a stretch of alleyway along the perimeter of a school - wire fence one side and spiky blackberry bushes the other. Of course, away from the road I think it will be fine to ride along it and end up getting well scraped up as I wobble from one side of the alleyway to the other, hitting the bushes and then the fence.
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Rim protection is a waste of time. To me its like discussing the best place to have an ashtray on a bike.
If you think the rubber is going to be strong enough to withstand the weight of a car you are going to be sadly disappointed.
The problem is, you will get folk who believe it will protect the wheel completely and no doubt disregard how close they park to the kerb thinking they are safe.
Chris, the paint on 2 of my weights has started to come off because of the pressure hose.
I've literally just bought some enamel paint to paint it back on, although not had a chance to try it yet.
http://www.humbrol.com/uk-en/paints/enamel-paints.html?dir=asc&order=humbrol_sort
Cheers I'll have a look.
Just had a thought. I've got an old black magic touch up paint from my old Leon. Could I use that to paint the weights and then lacquer over the top?
Can't think why that wouldn't be fine to do. Should be as resilient as the lacquer on the wheels themselves. What colour are the weights? If they're a silvery colour already then a coat of lacquer should stop them corroding (are they zinc weights?).
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Yeah they are shiny zinc ones. VW don't fit gloss black ones even though they supply gloss black wheels. I'm actually thinking of buying my own wheel balancing machine and tyre changing machine as I'm sick to death of tyre places not taking care of wheels. I must say vw haven't marked my wheels but it's just the pain in the backside before hand removing wheels and old weights.
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Rim protection is a waste of time. To me its like discussing the best place to have an ashtray on a bike.
That puts me in mind of something I saw last week, whilst I was sat at a traffic light junction. On the outside of me, this bloke on a push bike pulled up, riding one handed because he had a fag and a can of beer in the other. He was p!ssed out of his head and all over the place. I'll be very surprised if he's still alive. A handlebar mounted ashtray and a beer can holder would have been just the job :grin:
I've done something similar once. Out on my push bike, going along the coast, pass a pub and see some mates sat outside on a nice day. I stop for a pint and 8 pints later I walk the bike home.... There's a stretch of alleyway along the perimeter of a school - wire fence one side and spiky blackberry bushes the other. Of course, away from the road I think it will be fine to ride along it and end up getting well scraped up as I wobble from one side of the alleyway to the other, hitting the bushes and then the fence.
OUCH! :grin: :grin:
I confess I too have been drunk in charge of a bicycle, and it did not end well. My sister and I were on a regular cycling/camping trip in the Lakes, having biked up from Lancashire (where I lived at the time - a 47 mile ride to Windermere). The nearest pub was 5 miles from the campsite but that was no deterrent. Well it took no time at all to reach the pub and enjoy a few too many refreshments, but the cycle back took rather longer - 3 hours to be precise, and included a lengthy stint in a roadside ditch plus one or two impromptu 'detours', and a lot of giggling. Just how we ever made it back to the tent, I'll never know, but I remember wondering why I was covered in cuts and bruises the next day :whistle: :grin:
There was also a similar ill fated journey on a Honda 50cc moped which involved a tadpole infested ditch, but I'll save that for another time :laugh:
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Yeah they are shiny zinc ones. VW don't fit gloss black ones even though they supply gloss black wheels. I'm actually thinking of buying my own wheel balancing machine and tyre changing machine as I'm sick to death of tyre places not taking care of wheels. I must say vw haven't marked my wheels but it's just the pain in the backside before hand removing wheels and old weights.
I'm with you there. I even priced it up and although a bit pricey I reckon it would pay for itself in no time as friends and family would also get the use out of it.
I'm a 30 mile round trip to a tyre fitters that I have kind of got to trust although he did put a slight mark on my wifes wheel the last time :cry:
Incidentally I also bought the black enamel paint as I have 2 or 3 stone chips out of the Nogaro spokes. Do you have any?
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Not any that I can see although I have scratch marks on the silver spokes and I've been as careful as can be when washing them.
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Not any that I can see although I have scratch marks on the silver spokes and I've been as careful as can be when washing them.
If they are just surface scratches in the lacquer, they should polish out.
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THE FINAL SUMMARY:
Continental ContiSportContact 5P:
Some performance Golfs come fitted with these and owners are generally very happy with them. However, they are noisy in comparison to the Michelin and Pirelli. Considered a very a noisy tyre which would put me off. Audi S3s come equipped with these. Rim protection 5mm. Lightest tyre at 9.6 kgs.[/b]
Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2:
A very balanced tyre. Does everything well but does not really excel at anything. Will work well on most cars. Old version weight 11.5 kg (heaviest). Rim Protection (old version) 4.5 mm.
Does the 17" ContiSportContact 5 still retain its weight advantage?
I use 17" and 5P start at 18" I have used F1s for 40,000 miles but I am curious about shedding 1Kg of weight without doing anything except the tyres!
Any speculation or facts would be very welcome.
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Haven't really driven the new tyres much yet but they look weird on the car compared with the conti 2s. Mine are conti 5s not conti 5ps and they aren't any noisier than before. Mpg's have been poor but I'm hoping that's just down to them needing scrubbed in properly.
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Weird in what way, low profile? What size are your tyres? I expect the mpg has been knocked back just because they need wearing in. You'll get used to the look in time.
So far as I know the Conti 5P and the Conti 5 are the same compound, but the 5p is available in more sizes (rim diameter 18 -23; width 225 -325) as opposed to the Conti 5 (17-20; width 205-275) and the 5p is aimed at 'premium performance cars'. So good enough for a 'performance' Golf :grin:
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I think it might be the fact they don't have much rib protection and they look new haha
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I think it might be the fact they don't have much rib protection and they look new haha
....and clean? :grin:
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They appear to have a slightly different size of sidewall to the 2s but it could just be an illusion.
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Ordered a set of Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 in 225/40/r18 so look forward to giving you some thoughts on how they compare against the Super Sports.
These are going to be primarily used for play days in the R hence why I am not concerned about the wet weather performance
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Ordered a set of Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 in 225/40/r18 so look forward to giving you some thoughts on how they compare against the Super Sports.
These are going to be primarily used for play days in the R hence why I am not concerned about the wet weather performance
Look forward to hearing your thoughts on the PSC2's :smiley:
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the review will not be based on the inter web score card but subjective through the seat of my pants and arms and a stop watch
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the review will not be based on the inter web score card but subjective through the seat of my pants and arms and a stop watch
Excellent! The only kind of review I take true notice of.
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PSC2 tyres are superb in the dry and great for track use. However they are not as good as the PSS in the wet according to the labelling. Be interesting to find out how the PSS and PSC2 compare for ride, noise and wet performance.
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PSC2 tyres are superb in the dry and great for track use. However they are not as good as the PSS in the wet according to the labelling. Be interesting to find out how the PSS and PSC2 compare for ride, noise and wet performance.
i'm hoping they are here in time for next weeks visit to the isle of man :laugh:
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PSC2 tyres are superb in the dry and great for track use. However they are not as good as the PSS in the wet according to the labelling. Be interesting to find out how the PSS and PSC2 compare for ride, noise and wet performance.
i'm hoping they are here in time for next weeks visit to the isle of man :laugh:
What's the Rim Protection like on the PSSes?
Avidly looking forward to an Andy style page long review, mainly for my bedtime read. :tongue: :grin:
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What's the Rim Protection like on the PSSes?
Bloody hell, have you not found out about the PSS rim protection yet?? You're slacking! Anyone would think you're in the middle of a (Greek) crisis or something :tongue: :kiss: :kiss:
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My PSS are on 8" wheels at the moment and this is the rim protection, not the best but did survive when i ran out of talent
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/wigit71/RUR/IMG_0759_zps8twtmnzx.jpg)
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My PSS are on 8" wheels at the moment and this is the rim protection, not the best but did survive when i ran out of talent
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/wigit71/RUR/IMG_0759_zps8twtmnzx.jpg)
8" wheels, that's different :grin:
Rim protection looks fairly non existent to me from those pics - in fact looks similar to the non rim protection version of Conti 5ps. It is of no matter really as still going for the PSS anyway, regardless. Enjoy Isle of Man wigit, come back in one piece, you and the R!
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What's the Rim Protection like on the PSSes?
Bloody hell, have you not found out about the PSS rim protection yet?? You're slacking! Anyone would think you're in the middle of a (Greek) crisis or something :tongue: :kiss: :kiss:
Believe it or not I saw my first 7R in Athens. White with 18" Cadiz shod with Conti 5 tyres. Did not bother checking the Rim Protection because they were Conti 5 tyres and you had already informed us of their Rim Protection or lack of, dwarling. :tongue: :kiss: :grin:
So PSSes have ZERO RP. RIP.
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My PSS are on 8" wheels at the moment and this is the rim protection, not the best but did survive when i ran out of talent
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/wigit71/RUR/IMG_0759_zps8twtmnzx.jpg)
Fcuk all with your diddy 8". :wink:
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Believe it or not I saw my first 7R in Athens. White with 18" Cadiz shod with Conti 5 tyres. Did not bother checking the Rim Protection because they were Conti 5 tyres and you had already informed us of their Rim Protection or lack of, dwarling. :tongue: :kiss: :grin:
So PSSes have ZERO RP. RIP.
Well I'm glad you took my word for it about the Contis, otherwise you might have had to leg it down the road after the White 7R, to catch a glimpse of the non existent RP. Or, if stationary, you may have had to employ your legendary motor car stalking skills. Is there a special outfit you wear on these stalking occasions. I do hope so :laugh: :tongue: :kiss:
So now you know the PSS have next to no RP, are you reconsidering your choices?? Cue, more tyre reviews, that's if you have left any tyre stone unturned :whistle:
With his 8"ers, wigit is the Anti Size Queen :laugh:
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Believe it or not I saw my first 7R in Athens. White with 18" Cadiz shod with Conti 5 tyres. Did not bother checking the Rim Protection because they were Conti 5 tyres and you had already informed us of their Rim Protection or lack of, dwarling. :tongue: :kiss: :grin:
So PSSes have ZERO RP. RIP.
Well I'm glad you took my word for it about the Contis, otherwise you might have had to leg it down the road after the White 7R, to catch a glimpse of the non existent RP. Or, if stationary, you may have had to employ your legendary motor car stalking skills. Is there a special outfit you wear on these stalking occasions. I do hope so :laugh: :tongue: :kiss:
So now you know the PSS have next to no RP, are you reconsidering your choices?? Cue, more tyre reviews, that's if you have left any tyre stone unturned :whistle:
With his 8"ers, wigit is the Anti Size Queen :laugh:
I am bored with rubber. Next ........ :kiss:
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I am bored with rubber. Next ........ :kiss:
I'm sure you'll find more interesting topics elsewhere.......cheerio!
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No love for Goodyear Eagle F1's anymore? :huh:
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No love for Goodyear Eagle F1's anymore? :huh:
No Snooze, they are no longer Numero Uno! They have been usurped by the Michekin PSS.
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No love for Goodyear Eagle F1's anymore? :huh:
What is the Rim Protection like on them? Pictures, if possible, please.
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I am bored with rubber. Next ........ :kiss:
I'm sure you'll find more interesting topics elsewhere.......cheerio!
Temper, temper. Just because I am tyre tired. :grin:
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Temper, temper. Just because I am tyre tired. :grin:
:huh:
No temper, temper here my sweet :kiss: You must stop reading between imaginary lines :laugh:
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I am bored with rubber. Next ........ :kiss:
.....DSG paddle shifters :kiss: :laugh:
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I am bored with rubber. Next ........ :kiss:
.....DSG paddle shifters :kiss: :laugh:
Happy with my diddy paddles for now.
Maybe the left footrest? :kiss:
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Rebecca:
Look at mikeoz's last post on vwroc (on my thread re tyres) with pictures of his new PSSes on Prats! Won't post a link as you are getting lazy! :kiss:
He says they are quieter, ride is better and they have next to no RM. From the pictures I can see a bit of RM which would just about do the trick.
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Wow this thread is difficult to draw any kind of conclusion from!
My stock Bridgestones are now in need of replacement on the front (24k) and I thought after reading reviews and various ratings that I'd decided on the Dunlops but now I'm thinking Continentals again.
Anyone else found the Bridgestones get a little noisy after 20k miles? I had some really cheap tyres on my mk5 GTI and they droned like you wouldn't believe on the road. Bridgestones are starting to sound similar, I suspect it's the back set going hard.
So, the Evo test said best summer tyres - is it foolish to decide based on that test since I run the same set all year round?
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Wow this thread is difficult to draw any kind of conclusion from!
My stock Bridgestones are now in need of replacement on the front (24k) and I thought after reading reviews and various ratings that I'd decided on the Dunlops but now I'm thinking Continentals again.
Anyone else found the Bridgestones get a little noisy after 20k miles? I had some really cheap tyres on my mk5 GTI and they droned like you wouldn't believe on the road. Bridgestones are starting to sound similar, I suspect it's the back set going hard.
So, the Evo test said best summer tyres - is it foolish to decide based on that test since I run the same set all year round?
Wrote a long reply, the site crashed and its all gone.
Conti 5 tyres are No1 rated, slightly noisy, have next to no RP if A rated wet grip ones are selected
You don't specify which size.
These Goodyears are good and have upgraded rubber:
http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/goodyear/eagle-f1-asymmetric-2/225-40-r18-92-y-xl-fp-v1.html
Best are Michelin PSS tyres. Expensive, a touch noisy, hardly any RP, best handling and grip. Last long.
So it is a choice of 3 makes. Your call!
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I am bored with rubber. Next ........ :kiss:
.....DSG paddle shifters :kiss: :laugh:
Happy with my diddy paddles for now.
Maybe the left footrest? :kiss:
Footrests? Have already chosen one. Link is on my ipad at home so can't post it but it's in the mk7 section somewhere.
Had one in my current car and want similar for the R dead pedal, as I need somewhere nice to rest my pretty left foot, as I'm sure you do yours :kiss: :smiley:
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Rebecca:
Look at mikeoz's last post on vwroc (on my thread re tyres) with pictures of his new PSSes on Prats! Won't post a link as you are getting lazy busy! :kiss:
He says they are quieter, ride is better and they have next to no RM. From the pictures I can see a bit of RM which would just about do the trick.
Getting lazy, bloody cheek. I've corrected your comment. Wish I had time to languish in the sunshine! :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:
No link necessary (ust as well :rolleyes:). I saw mikeoz's vwroc pics of the PSS RP on the Prettyorias last night (think he used to be on here as mikeok??). I may be registered on vwroc now but I still like a lurk :laugh:
As you say, and as both wigit's and mikeoz's attest to - minimal RP, but maybe that will work in my favour, might make me extra careful, but I doubt it :whistle:
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Rebecca:
My left foot is a real left foot: size 45! Yes, the footy rest would be nice to rest my monstrosity covered with Church's Brogues. Thank goodness I've stopped wearing those Mr Chew stilettos.
Neither am I lazy. It is Hot as Hell outside, 39 deg C on the balcony in the shade. 44+ deg C in the sun. So I am in-house with the AC on Auto just like in my R. Had a lovely lunch with a nice cool beer and will now have a snooze.
After all my posts re rubber, I think I will stick with the Bridgestones as a matter of penance. I will suffer the noise but enjoy having the RP on the B'stones. I have sinned too much and have indulged in all the below.:
The Seven Deadly Sins
Three Spiritual Sins
1. Pride (spiritual sin)
2. Envy (spiritual sin)
3. Wrath (spiritual sin affected by body)
Four Corporal Sins
4. Accidia or Sloth (corporal sin)
5. Avaricia/Cupiditas or Greed
(corporal sin)
6. Gluttony (corporal sin)
7. Lust (corporal sin)
Pray for me my sister and I will prey on you when I get back! :kiss:
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Rebecca:
My left foot is a real left foot: size 45! Yes, the footy rest would be nice to rest my monstrosity covered with Church's Brogues. Thank goodness I've stopped wearing those Mr Chew stilettos.
Neither am I lazy. It is Hot as Hell outside, 39 deg C on the balcony in the shade. 44+ deg C in the sun. So I am in-house with the AC on Auto just like in my R. Had a lovely lunch with a nice cool beer and will now have a snooze.
After all my posts re rubber, I think I will stick with the Bridgestones as a matter of penance. I will suffer the noise but enjoy having the RP on the B'stones. I have sinned too much and have indulged in all the below.:
The Seven Deadly Sins
Three Spiritual Sins
1. Pride (spiritual sin)
2. Envy (spiritual sin)
3. Wrath (spiritual sin affected by body)
Four Corporal Sins
4. Accidia or Sloth (corporal sin)
5. Avaricia/Cupiditas or Greed
(corporal sin)
6. Gluttony (corporal sin)
7. Lust (corporal sin)
Pray for me my sister and I will prey on you when I get back! :kiss:
Size 45 that's what, a UK size 10/10.5? That's not so big! Typical male over exaggeration where size is concerned. :rolleyes: :evil:
Nevertheless you deserve a foot rest worthy of your mini mammoth feet. By comparison my feet are a diminutive size 7 or 41 (ok, quite big). I have very long toes, which match my very long fingers which have their uses as you can imagine :wink: :laugh:
I would not trust anyone who had not indulged in at least most of the The Seven Deadly Sins in their lifetime (some maybe not every week, but a least once or twice). :laugh:
Your need for deserved punishment however is still NO excuse for copping out of the tyre changeover, tut, tut :laugh:. Your choice of course my darling, but how come the original catalyst for this debate (from your perspective) was you seeking out a quieter tyre to replace the noisy Bridgestones, but it is now adequate rim protection that has become the overriding factor. My, you are such a creature of whim, but I do love you for it. :kiss:
Be gentle with me as you prey :kiss:
Still getting PSSess!
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My dear Rebecca:
Reason for changing my mind is that I will only be in the UK for 5-6 months of the year and even then will not be driving the car very much. So changing the tyres is not an economical or sensible proposition. I am sure you would do the same.
You definitely should get the PSSes. You do many more miles than I do, have purchased your car and will be keeping it for a much longer time. So it makes sense.
I will also prey on you with the greatest of gentleness.
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My dear Rebecca:
Reason for changing my mind is that I will only be in the UK for 5-6 months of the year and even then will not be driving the car very much. So changing the tyres is not an economical or sensible proposition. I am sure you would do the same.
You definitely should get the PSSes. You do many more miles than I do, have purchased your car and will be keeping it for a much longer time. So it makes sense.
I will also prey on you with the greatest of gentleness.
Under those circumstances I can understand and would most likely do the same. I seem to spend an inordinate amount of time in my car these day, some choice, most necessity, so it's worth it for me. :smiley:
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Wow this thread is difficult to draw any kind of conclusion from!
My stock Bridgestones are now in need of replacement on the front (24k) and I thought after reading reviews and various ratings that I'd decided on the Dunlops but now I'm thinking Continentals again.
Anyone else found the Bridgestones get a little noisy after 20k miles? I had some really cheap tyres on my mk5 GTI and they droned like you wouldn't believe on the road. Bridgestones are starting to sound similar, I suspect it's the back set going hard.
So, the Evo test said best summer tyres - is it foolish to decide based on that test since I run the same set all year round?
Monsta - I run summer tyres all year round. I know some would baulk at this but in my neck of the woods it just doesn't really warrant winter tyres.
As interesting as they are, tyre reviews are only part of it and there's plenty of good first hand recommendations around from respected people to help make the choice. I would have Contis 5p again without hesitation but want to try the Michelin PSS this time. In reality there's probably not too much real world difference between the likes of PSS, Goodyear Eagles and Contis.
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Just seen this 2015 tyre test by Auto Zeitung for 225/40 R18 tyres on Audi A3 1.8:
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2015-AZ-225-40-R18-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm
No.1: Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 2
No.2: Pirelli P Zero
No.3: Continental ContiSport 5
No.4: Dunlop Sport Maxx RT
No.5: Nokian
No.6: Michelin PS3
Noisiest tyre: Continental
Best for wet and dry grip: Pirelli
Lowest fuel use and most comfortable: Goodyear
Quietest: Goodyear
Best tyre overall: Goodyear
Unfortunately, they have measured exterior noise levels.
Full test results:
http://www.laneks.lv/en/tests/read/AZ-2015-sum1.html
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Just seen this 2015 tyre test by Auto Zeitung for 225/40 R18 tyres on Audi A3 1.8:
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2015-AZ-225-40-R18-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm
No.1: Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 2
No.2: Pirelli P Zero
No.3: Continental ContiSport 5
No.4: Dunlop Sport Maxx RT
No.5: Nokian
No.6: Michelin PS3
Noisiest tyre: Continental
Best for wet and dry grip: Pirelli
Lowest fuel use and most comfortable: Goodyear
Quietest: Goodyear
Best tyre overall: Goodyear
Unfortunately, they have measured exterior noise levels.
Full test results:
http://www.laneks.lv/en/tests/read/AZ-2015-sum1.html
Aren't all tyre test noise levels measured externally?
Could you be tempted by the Goodyear F1s? Or are you still intent on perservering with the Bridgestones for your sins?
No PSS, but no matter, still my next choice of tyre.
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For the here and now, and as things stand, I will put up with the noise. The R is a noisy car, of this there is no doubt and this has spoiled the ownership experience for me. I still have a BMW which rides and handles beautifully in Sport+, Sport and Comfort modes with next to no noise intrusion.
Have been talking to a chassis engineer by email and in his opinion and after him checking the suspension design and mounts for the R. the transmission of road noise is a given for such a car. He also said that the Bridgestones are perhaps the noisiest tyres around. The best way to reduce the road noise is to change the tyres with softer sidewalls. Michelins and Continentals tend to be noisy. The Michelin PS3 is ranked as one of the noisiest of tyres, vying successfully in this respect with the Bridgestones. If I can be bothered, perhaps Goodyear, Hankook or Dunlop, as these are considered to be quiet. All have good Rim Protection.
Let's see; but nothing for now as I don't wish to spend any money on a car which I won't be keeping for too long. I'll use the R mainly as a shopping trolley and thus won't have to suffer much with road noise on these short trips.
Lease cheap, pay twice. seems to be the order of the day with this car. Could a GTI/GTD be quieter?
So that's that.
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I've got a noise meter on my phone and before my old tyres were removed i was getting 78dbs in the car. While not an exact science ive measured with my new conti 5s on and i get...... wait for it 78dbs. The noise between all the tyres tested is so negligible it's not worth worrying about. To the naked ear the difference between a dunlop on 68db and a conti 5 on 72db is nothing.
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Lease cheap, pay twice. seems to be the order of the day with this car. Could a GTI/GTD be quieter?
So that's that.
At motorway cruising speeds, the GTD will be the quietest of the trio, diesels are no noisier than petrols once you get above 1500 revs, and at 80mph, the GTD is doing 2200 revs in 6th, the R is doing 3100 revs.
You haven't paid twice for anything have you? If you lease or buy, you're likely to end up with Flintstones, so buying twice (to swap them out) isn't a lease-only proposition.
Get yourself a Skoda Superb next time - the quietest VAG car I have driven, by a margin. Both my GTD on 18" Flintstones and R on 19" Flintstones were quieter at cruise and far better handling than my MK5 170TDI GT Sport. I do think some people have their rose tinted glasses on when comparing the MK7 with previous VWs.
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Aren't all tyre test noise levels measured externally?
Auto Express and some others measure cabin noise.
Hankooks produce the least cabin noise.
Audi TTS Quattro fitted with these.
Hankook the quietest.
Dunlop also quiet.
Goodyear has updated rubber. Considered a quiet tyre. New one next year.
Continental considered to be a bit noisy. Great tyre though.
Michelin PSS considered to be reasonably quiet. Best tyres overall. Expensive.
Michelin PS3 tyres very noisy and not that good.
Bridgestone tyres the noisiest and rubbish.
Continental CS6 fitted to Honda Type R. Size 235/35 R19 91Y. Very good Rim Protection.
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Aren't all tyre test noise levels measured externally?
Auto Express and some others measure cabin noise.
Hankooks produce the least cabin noise.
Audi TTS Quattro fitted with these.
Hankook the quietest.
Dunlop also quiet.
Goodyear has updated rubber. Considered a quiet tyre. New one next year.
Continental considered to be a bit noisy. Great tyre though.
Michelin PSS considered to be reasonably quiet. Best tyres overall. Expensive.
Michelin PS3 tyres very noisy and not that good.
Bridgestone tyres the noisiest and rubbish.
Continental CS6 fitted to Honda Type R. Size 235/35 R19 91Y. Very good Rim Protection.
Ok.
If the cabin noise, especially on rough tarmac roads (of which there are countless in the UK) is sufficiently spoiling your enjoyment of the car to the point where you no longer want to drive it to any great degree, and there is a clear frontrunner (Hankook) in the tyre stakes with respect to low cabin noise, isn't it worth swallowing the cost and giving them a chance? Wow, that's a long sentence there!
What is to be gained by suffering in silence (no pun intended) for the sake of a few hundred quid? Nothing ventured, nothing gained as they say.
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Rebecca, I am being economical. Taking a leaf out of MH's book!
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Rebecca, I am being economical. Taking a leaf out of MH's book!
I know you got the car on a cheap lease deal but it's still a £30+k car potentially going to waste, and for what purpose? Thrift.
Asker, IMO (for what it's worth) you should swallow the 1st of the Seven Deadly Sins and get the Hankooks. There are no guarantees of course, but they might just provide the remedy you seek.
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Or you could just sell it and give us all some peace :tongue:
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Or you could just sell it and give us all some peace :tongue:
Frankenstein has risen again. :tongue:
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Or you could just sell it and give us all some peace :tongue:
Frankenstein has risen again. :tongue:
Buying a hot hatch for a quiet and comfortable car with low noise levels...very logical
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Hello there by any chance, dose any body have some Bridgestone's tyres 225\40\18 that have been taken off with little mileage on them for Sale, sounds like nobody likes them !!!!!!! they do me fine, please phone 07706690486 thanks
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Was a full set for sale in last month's VW driver magazine.
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Hello there by any chance, dose any body have some Bridgestone's tyres 225\40\18 that have been taken off with little mileage on them for Sale, sounds like nobody likes them !!!!!!! they do me fine, please phone 07706690486 thanks
In how much of a rush are you? I am in and out of the UK quite a lot. I need to make a final decision on a possible tyre change, time permitting. I can get in touch on my return to the UK in about 1+ weeks, i.e. if you have not already purchased a set already by then.
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Curveball - Vredestein Sessanta's. I've done 10,000 miles on mine now with 240bhp/500NM - amazing grip in dry and wet, and they are the quietest tyre I've used. More grip and quieter than the Conti Sports the car came with. If I move to an R in a year I'll be using them then too :)
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I am with you on this frank, I have been running vred sessantas on my GTD for about 3000 miles. I can't praise them highly enough😀
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Wow this thread is difficult to draw any kind of conclusion from!
My stock Bridgestones are now in need of replacement on the front (24k) and I thought after reading reviews and various ratings that I'd decided on the Dunlops but now I'm thinking Continentals again.
Anyone else found the Bridgestones get a little noisy after 20k miles? I had some really cheap tyres on my mk5 GTI and they droned like you wouldn't believe on the road. Bridgestones are starting to sound similar, I suspect it's the back set going hard.
So, the Evo test said best summer tyres - is it foolish to decide based on that test since I run the same set all year round?
Wrote a long reply, the site crashed and its all gone.
Conti 5 tyres are No1 rated, slightly noisy, have next to no RP if A rated wet grip ones are selected
You don't specify which size.
These Goodyears are good and have upgraded rubber:
http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/goodyear/eagle-f1-asymmetric-2/225-40-r18-92-y-xl-fp-v1.html
Best are Michelin PSS tyres. Expensive, a touch noisy, hardly any RP, best handling and grip. Last long.
So it is a choice of 3 makes. Your call!
Yeah I had Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 on the front of my Mk5, they were OK but didn't really feel they were that great around corners, I guess I'm after the impossible and need to find a compromise. Quiet is best for me as I drive mostly on the motorway and get fed up with any kind of droning....
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Goodyear Eagle F1's are great value and a v gd tyre. Had them on my Mk6 and will be putting them on my Mk7 once those pesky Bridgestones wear out. I'm spinning them up as much as pos atm!
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Conti Contact Sport, I got 36k from mine on a rwd motor.
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Back to Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2s again then, you can get them for £87.20 fitted from http://www.cartyres.com although they only seem to be sending you to Halfords for fitting - not sure how I feel about that.
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I just had the Goodyears put on mine after conti sc5, dunlop sportmaxx rt and pirelli p7.
They feel pretty soft, closest to the dunlops.
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Or you could just sell it and give us all some peace :tongue:
Frankenstein has risen again. :tongue:
Buying a hot hatch for a quiet and comfortable car with low noise levels...very logical
You should have been here when Asker had his mk6, now that was a saga or ten!
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Or you could just sell it and give us all some peace :tongue:
Frankenstein has risen again. :tongue:
Buying a hot hatch for a quiet and comfortable car with low noise levels...very logical
You should have been here when Asker had his mk6, now that was a saga or ten!
God forbid.
Strikes me as rather ridiculous to go back to a manufacturer with the same model, albeit a new generation when the previous one also was riddled with issues.
Insanity is defined as the repeating of a task or process expecting a different result.... :rolleyes:
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Or you could just sell it and give us all some peace :tongue:
Frankenstein has risen again. :tongue:
Buying a hot hatch for a quiet and comfortable car with low noise levels...very logical
You should have been here when Asker had his mk6, now that was a saga or ten!
God forbid.
Strikes me as rather ridiculous to go back to a manufacturer with the same model, albeit a new generation when the previous one also was riddled with issues.
Insanity is defined as the repeating of a task or process expecting a different result.... :rolleyes:
Play nice, little chav boy.
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You should have been here when Asker had his mk6, now that was a saga or ten!
I am disappointed with you Postman Pat.
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I'm sure you're not really, the Greek God has just returned home and is being Grumpy.
I can't believe you had a pop at my hero too (R400).
Your rear diffuser saga was legendary Mr angry Adonis.
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Or you could just sell it and give us all some peace :tongue:
Frankenstein has risen again. :tongue:
Buying a hot hatch for a quiet and comfortable car with low noise levels...very logical
You should have been here when Asker had his mk6, now that was a saga or ten!
God forbid.
Strikes me as rather ridiculous to go back to a manufacturer with the same model, albeit a new generation when the previous one also was riddled with issues.
Insanity is defined as the repeating of a task or process expecting a different result.... :rolleyes:
Play nice, little chav boy.
Chav is a remarkable conclusion to draw.
Not a fan of being told your a pillock?
Old Fart springs to mind.
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Chav is a remarkable conclusion to draw.
Not a fan of being told your a pillock?
Old Fart springs to mind.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/chillpill_zps407425f2.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/am1w/media/chillpill_zps407425f2.jpg.html)
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I am with you on this frank, I have been running vred sessantas on my GTD for about 3000 miles. I can't praise them highly enough😀
Awesome aren't they, it will be our best kept secret by the looks of it ;)
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Initial thoughts on the Sport Cup 2s after a couple of hundred miles of driving on a mixture of roads
No issues with noise and quieter than the SS
Have noticed a marginal difference in term of improved ride quality which i would attribute to the softer compound
Plenty of dry grip but trying these out tomorrow so will be interesting how lap times compare to SS
I do not seen these as an everyday all round year tyre given the wet weather performance, that said whilst the SS are amazing in the wet I feel the Cup2 will fair better on a drying surface. The offset in improved grip and dry performance is offset by wear and you can tell the SS feels harder
Tyres do make a difference and a few manafuturers are supplying these as option tyres on Megane RS, Leon Cupra and new Focus RS and you can see why, I can also see why some of these cars are giving the GTI and R a hard time on track if shod with the sh!tstones
I would not be surprised if the Clubsport or R400 come with Cup 2s as standard or an option
I'll have to do some benchmarking of times with the car running the sh!tstones on track
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Initial thoughts on the Sport Cup 2s after a couple of hundred miles of driving on a mixture of roads
No issues with noise and quieter than the SS
Have noticed a marginal difference in term of improved ride quality which i would attribute to the softer compound
Plenty of dry grip but trying these out tomorrow so will be interesting how lap times compare to SS
I do not seen these as an everyday all round year tyre given the wet weather performance, that said whilst the SS are amazing in the wet I feel the Cup2 will fair better on a drying surface. The offset in improved grip and dry performance is offset by wear and you can tell the SS feels harder
Tyres do make a difference and a few manafuturers are supplying these as option tyres on Megane RS, Leon Cupra and new Focus RS and you can see why, I can also see why some of these cars are giving the GTI and R a hard time on track if shod with the sh!tstones
I would not be surprised if the Clubsport or R400 come with Cup 2s as standard or an option
I'll have to do some benchmarking of times with the car running the sh!tstones on track
Good review on the Michelin SC2 wigit, thanks.
I agree they're probably not the best choice as an all-rounder but horses for courses and all that. Even though they would fare better in the dry, I would prefer the assurance of the PSS in the wet, so that would still be my year round choice.
Tyres are very important to me and I really do wish that VW would offer the optional extra to upgrade to a better tyre at the point of speccing/ordering on their performance Golf’s (at a reasonable cost of course). As you can spec plenty else, why not one of the most important things? Given the choice I'd definiately do that rather than have the hassle of later swapping out for decent tyres and either consigning the inferior rubber to the back of a cupboard or flogging it on ebay.
Surely VW will put decent rubber on the R400/Clubsport?? It will be laughable (and not in a funny way) if they came on B'stones.
Look forward to seeing how the SC2s compare on lap times against the PSS (just as a matter of interest).
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Having a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2 fitted to my GTD tomorrow morning. Have ran them previously on a GTI and thought they were great. Should be a huge improvement on the OE Bridgestones.
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Having a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2 fitted to my GTD tomorrow morning. Have ran them previously on a GTI and thought they were great. Should be a huge improvement on the OE Bridgestones.
Good choice. Great tyres. Very good ride and low noise levels.
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Having a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2 fitted to my GTD tomorrow morning. Have ran them previously on a GTI and thought they were great. Should be a huge improvement on the OE Bridgestones.
Good choice. Great tyres. Very good ride and low noise levels.
I'd have been a lot happier if the chaps who fitted them hadn't used bright sliver wheel weights :sad:
The tyres feel great on the car though, super pointy and loads of grip. They're the difference between the GTD front end feeling a bit numb and aloof, and it feeling precise and giving enough feedback.
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Having a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2 fitted to my GTD tomorrow morning. Have ran them previously on a GTI and thought they were great. Should be a huge improvement on the OE Bridgestones.
Good choice. Great tyres. Very good ride and low noise levels.
I'd have been a lot happier if the chaps who fitted them hadn't used bright sliver wheel weights :sad:
The tyres feel great on the car though, super pointy and loads of grip. They're the difference between the GTD front end feeling a bit numb and aloof, and it feeling precise and giving enough feedback.
Best value tyre for the performance it provides.
Hope you got those with the revised blend of rubber:
http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/goodyear/eagle-f1-asymmetric-2/225-40-r18-92-y-xl-fp-v1.html
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Just had Conti 5s fitted on the front only and the difference is night and day.. Much more traction than the standard Bridgestones and the extra speed you can take into corners is night and day.
The Contis have everything you will ever need on the road from a performance tyre (haven't tested them in wet yet though! :))
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Just had Conti 5s fitted on the front only and the difference is night and day.. Much more traction than the standard Bridgestones and the extra speed you can take into corners is night and day.
The Contis have everything you will ever need on the road from a performance tyre (haven't tested them in wet yet though! :))
Agree. On a Mk6 I have found them to be very, very efficient in the wet (and dry), they've even handled snowy/slushy roads without any issues.
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Decided against Eagle F1's mainly because they didn't impress me on my mk5....
Had two Dunlop SportMaxx RT fitted on the front yesterday at Halfords Autocentre in Brighton - have to say that despite the name they were very professional and got a nice compliment from them regarding my car - £172 the pair fitted.
So far they make a huge difference over the nasty Bridgestones. Gonna run them for a couple of thousand miles and put them on the back and have a new set again for the front - the noise from the rear is noticeable now these are quiet as a mouse on the front - 68db.
:smiley:
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Sport Pilot Cups 2 on a 7R in dry = epic :grin:
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Sport Pilot Cups 2 on a 7R in dry = epic :grin:
Tyres are ok but is the rest of the car still in one piece?? :laugh:
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No dramas for me a few others were not so lucky
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Decided against Eagle F1's mainly because they didn't impress me on my mk5.... Had two Dunlop SportMaxx RT fitted on the front yesterday at Halfords Autocentre in Brighton - have to say that despite the name they were very professional and got a nice compliment from them regarding my car - £172 the pair fitted.
So far they make a huge difference over the nasty Bridgestones. Gonna run them for a couple of thousand miles and put them on the back and have a new set again for the front - the noise from the rear is noticeable now these are quiet as a mouse on the front - 68db.
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The Goodyears have been updated constantly since the days of your Mk5.
They have also been recently updated with a new blend of rubber. They are superb tyres.
http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/goodyear/eagle-f1-asymmetric-2/225-40-r18-92-y-xl-fp-v1.html
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No dramas for me a few others were not so lucky
Must be down to the quality tyres. And driver skill :wink:
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The Goodyears have been updated constantly since the days of your Mk5.
They have also been recently updated with a new blend of rubber. They are superb tyres.
Sorry, I should've been clearer - The mk5 was my mk7 predecessor, it left me in December 2013 with Eagle F1 Assymetric 2s on it.
They might've improved but you only get one chance to impress!
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Had my Conti 5s now for a few months on the front (Bridgestones still on the back) Dry weather the car handles brilliantly with no tramping and no wheel spin full down on acceleration from stand still. Wet conditions however.... very very minor tramping and wheel spin if pressing hard on the accelerator, but car recovers well without easing off and not even close to the terrible tramping the Bridgestones caused. As others said, there are better all round weather tyres but for me the Contis have complemented the GTD very well.
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What gears do you get tramping in adekil? I only get tramping in 1st gear with the vreds, some dsc flashes in 2nd when damp but zero tramping. Still have oem conti's on the back - look like they will last forever!
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ffrank, only very minor tramping in 1st but only when conditions are wet, no tramping in dry conditions whatsoever in any gears. I've had the orange flashing in the MFD in 2nd and even once in 3rd but it was very wet on the roads. The car back end has slipped out a few times round roundabouts but I put that down to my sh*tty bridgestones still being on the back
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Has this been posted?
Evo October 2015 tyre test:
1 CS5
2 Yokohama V105
3 Pirelli
4 Goodyear
5 Vredestin
No noise data posted
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The £100 voucher Costco deal is back on - £500 net for 4 x 19" Michelin PSS - i'm so tempted, but i'm on the verge of quitting my new job (it's that bad). Have a few irons in the fire for another, but not sure if they'll come to fruition before the offer ends. If I jack in my job with nothing to walk straight into i'd be better keeping hold of £500. :angry:
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Has this been posted?
Evo October 2015 tyre test:
1 CS5
2 Yokohama V105
3 Pirelli
4 Goodyear
5 Vredestin
No noise data posted
April 2015 Evo Mag Summer Tyre test with a Mk7 Golf GTI. Tyre size 225/40 R18 92Y.
http://www.evo.co.uk/features/15659/which-is-the-best-tyre-for-summer-performance-tyre-test
10th to 6th:
http://www.evo.co.uk/features/15659/which-is-the-best-tyre-for-summer-performance-tyre-test/page/0/1
5th to 1st:
http://www.evo.co.uk/features/15659/which-is-the-best-tyre-for-summer-performance-tyre-test/page/0/2
1st: Continental ContiSportContact 5
2nd: Pirelli P Zero
3rd: Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2
4th: Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
5th: Michelin Pilot Sport 3
6th: Vredestein Ultrac Vorti
7th: Toyo Proxes T1 Sport
8th: Hankook Ventus S1 evo2
9th: Dunlop Sport Maxx RT
10th and last: Bridgestone Potenza S001.
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The £100 voucher Costco deal is back on - £500 net for 4 x 19" Michelin PSS - i'm so tempted, but i'm on the verge of quitting my new job (it's that bad). Have a few irons in the fire for another, but not sure if they'll come to fruition before the offer ends. If I jack in my job with nothing to walk straight into i'd be better keeping hold of £500. :angry:
Not loving the Tombstones then :grin:
I would say just get them and have done with it, but a tough one with the job uncertainty. Only you can decide whether to go for the deal or not.
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Have a few irons in the fire for another, but not sure if they'll come to fruition before the offer ends. If I jack in my job with nothing to walk straight into i'd be better keeping hold of £500. :angry:
That's not good about your job mate. Good luck with the potential new one.
Advertise your old ones on Gumtree or somewhere. there will always be someone who thinks they are good!!!
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Have a few irons in the fire for another, but not sure if they'll come to fruition before the offer ends. If I jack in my job with nothing to walk straight into i'd be better keeping hold of £500. :angry:
That's not good about your job mate. Good luck with the potential new one.
Advertise your old ones on Gumtree or somewhere. there will always be someone who thinks they are good!!!
Thanks, I almost jacked it in on my 2nd day, but so far have gritted my teeth for 12 weeks, what I do is a bit specialised so opportunities don't come up very often. I have a technical test for a job next Friday.
If I could get £50-60 a piece for the Bridgestones then I would have that £500 spent on the PSS in an instant. One of the tyres has been repaired, maybe £30 for that one.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=bridgestone%2019%22&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684
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Consider me tempted. Might put an ad on gumtree to gauge the response. The Costco deal starts Monday.
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Consider me tempted. Might put an ad on gumtree to gauge the response. The Costco deal starts Monday.
Yeah I'm going to force myself to go for 2 new fronts from Costco this moth as the deal is on.
I just hate getting tyres due to the high probability of damage!!
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Consider me tempted. Might put an ad on gumtree to gauge the response. The Costco deal starts Monday.
Yeah I'm going to force myself to go for 2 new fronts from Costco this moth as the deal is on.
I just hate getting tyres due to the high probability of damage!!
I hate that when you only want 2 fronts they force the backs onto the front and you have to change them back.
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Why's that? That's the sensible thing to do. It's most important to have your newest tyres on the back for grip. Plus your old rears will wear out faster on the front and you'll then have a nice matching set!
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Why's that? That's the sensible thing to do. It's most important to have your newest tyres on the back for grip. Plus your old rears will wear out faster on the front and you'll then have a nice matching set!
They make out that your car will be a deathtrap if you don't put the newest ones on the back, in most cases it will be a marginal difference if you are not taking your car to its limits.
Some might want to swap out their front Bridgestones on their GTI/GTD to prevent tramping. Some might have Pirelli P7s on their Scirocco that seem to get chewed up on the fronts but not the back. That was me - I didn't want to move my pristine P7s from the back to the front to suffer the same fate.
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I'm running 2 x PSS on the front with bridgestones on the back, no issues car handles fine just hit 16k and the rears look good for a further 10k. Previous owner fitted the fronts
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I replaced all 4 tyres today and swapped over to Michelin PS3. When I took the car into the garage (who shall remain nameless) I went round all 4 wheels with the manager who agreed they were in pristine condition. I go to collect the car tonight and the manager comes out with me and we go round the wheels and I notice some marks that definitely weren't there before. Now I hold my hands up, I pointed it out to him and he kind of fobed me off saying that it's just a bit of residue and will wash off.
So I get back up the road tonight and have a closer look and to say I'm not happy is an understatement :angry: :angry:. All 4 wheels have been scratched with different degrees of severity. Just wondering if anyone has had this sort of issue before and was there any compensation offered?
Drivers Front
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Drivers Rear
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Passenger Front
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Passenger Rear
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:shocked: :shocked:
That is unbelievable. I'd be back round there first thing tommorow. Did you take any pics of the wheels when you dropped it off?
I had some damage (not on that scale) to one wheel inflicted by the twits at Kwikfit couple years ago. Had a sudden puncture and no choice but to go there, as opposed to a decent place. Had a quick look on collection but their workshop was so dark, couldn't see much. Once out in the daylight noticed some gouges on the face of the wheel. I contacted them but they were less than bothered, so took it up with their customer services, who took all the details but never got back to me. The only reason I didn't pursue it further was the fact the wheel did have some minor kerb marks prior to the tyre fitting and I could see them wriggling out of it on that basis. Will never go back there.
Those marks on yours are not the type of marks you get from kerbing and the fact they are present on the face of the wheels, on all 4 wheels, and the chap agreed your wheels were pristine prior to fitting, I should think you've got a strong case. Some of those surface scratches should polish out, but I'd be asking them to pay for a full refurb of all 4 at a diamond cut specialist, of your choosing. Was it an independent place or a chain?
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Hi,
I had a very similar experience at one of the big tyre places. Mine was only on one wheel and I noticed it before I left. The guy was OK about it, as I made a point of the wheels being in tip top condition. In my case they paid to get the wheel refurbished through my local VW dealer who offer a Monday drop off for Wednesday collection on diamond cut repairs. It cost £95 per wheel, which was refunded to my by the tyre place. VW wouldn't tell me who they use, only that it was in Kent and wasn't lepsons. You wouldn't know the wheel had been repaired unless you really look for it.
If you don't get any joy at the place, take to Twitter and post a picture of the wheels showing the damage they have done, then they will likely get in touch.
This was the same place who setup the wheel alignment for a mk6 golf and didn't own up to not having the mk7 parameters until I questioned the printed alignment report which stated golf mk6!
Needless to say I am new very particular about where I get my wheels done!!
Hope you get it sorted!!
Cheers,
Phil
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Hi,
I had a very similar experience at one of the big tyre places. Mine was only on one wheel and I noticed it before I left. The guy was OK about it, as I made a point of the wheels being in tip top condition. In my case they paid to get the wheel refurbished through my local VW dealer who offer a Monday drop off for Wednesday collection on diamond cut repairs. It cost £95 per wheel, which was refunded to my by the tyre place. VW wouldn't tell me who they use, only that it was in Kent and wasn't lepsons. You wouldn't know the wheel had been repaired unless you really look for it.
If you don't get any joy at the place, take to Twitter and post a picture of the wheels showing the damage they have done, then they will likely get in touch.
This was the same place who setup the wheel alignment for a mk6 golf and didn't own up to not having the mk7 parameters until I questioned the printed alignment report which stated golf mk6!
Needless to say I am new very particular about where I get my wheels done!!
Hope you get it sorted!!
Cheers,
Phil
VW usually use Lepsons in Gillingham, Kent. Canterbury dealer definitely uses them as they told me. One of the best in the country for diamond cut refurbs. Wonder who they used instead?
Twitter and Facebook is a good shout.
Hope you get some joy out of them Craig.
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It's a chain of of garages but not as big as Kwik Fit. I've made a school boy error in not taking pictures before I took the car in but I did wash all 4 wheels and it was clear from our walk round the car that they were in top condition.
I've sent an email off just in the last few minutes to voice my displeasure and I'll be round first thing tomorrow to hear what they have to say. I don't want to mention them just now cause if they do the honourable thing and have them repaired then I'll respect that but if they refuse then I'll name and shame.
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Even with a polish they won't get any better. Those marks look like cut into the lacquer to me and in time you might get the well known white worm (quite common on Monza wheels from MK5 GTIs). Judging by the position of the scratches I believe they were done when they used the air gun to screw in the bolts.
I have the same fear to be fair, just bought a set of PSS last week and I still haven't fitted them to the wheels because I'm not too keen on getting the wheels scratched. Last time I've had a bad experience with my local Mr. Tyre garage, they scratched my diamond cut OZ wheels on my Megane. I said I will never again go to them. Can anyone recommend a decent place to fit tyres to diamond cut wheels without scratching them?
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I got michelin pilot sports from Costco when they were on offer, worked out £100 a corner I think. Fantastic tyre compared to the conti's that my car came with
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It's a chain of of garages but not as big as Kwik Fit. I've made a school boy error in not taking pictures before I took the car in but I did wash all 4 wheels and it was clear from our walk round the car that they were in top condition.
I've sent an email off just in the last few minutes to voice my displeasure and I'll be round first thing tomorrow to hear what they have to say. I don't want to mention them just now cause if they do the honourable thing and have them repaired then I'll respect that but if they refuse then I'll name and shame.
How did you get on Craig? Just catching up on some posts - that is outrageous, I bet you're fuming. I really don't understand how they've f-ed it up so badly. Unreal. Have you had any luck?
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So went down yesterday morning to speak with the manager about the damage and when I arrived he acknowledged that he had received my email and that the damage was unacceptable. He examined the wheels and without actually admitting guilt did agree that the wheels were not in that condition when I had left the car with them. He said he was a bit baffled by the position of the damage as would have expected any damage to have been inside the wheelnut holes. He's asked that I bring the car back in on Saturday to allow his area manager to have a look but Sod's law im away to Newcastle on Saturday for the rugby.
If he doesn't phone me to arrange another date then I'll keep on pestering him until I get some appropriate compensation. To say I'm miffed is an understatement. Had the car for 2.5yrs and in all that time never had the slightest bit of damage to any wheel and now all 4 of them are scratched to bugger :angry:.
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Craig it looks like to me that they put the wheel face down on their machine which is usually full of bits of weights / broken valves etc.
I had similar when I took my Mk6 into Arnold Clark. I think the manager thought I was at it and just looking for new alloys. he took me into the workshop to look at the process and it was clear to me how they could have been damaged but he denied it. In the end I machine polished them and they were as good as new.
The good thing here is you took the manager out to look round the car beforehand so they are basically taking ownership of the state of the car / wheels until it is handed back to you. Both of you would have had to be blind not to notice that before.
I've had loads of problems with alloys on various cars in the last few years. From fitters removing the old weights with what looked like chisels, leaving gouges on the inside of the wheel, to scratches and scores on the face of the alloy.
I just recently changed my 2 fronts and was paranoid beforehand so I removed the weights myself to stop any chance of that happening but the fitters were great. They really took care of the alloys / car. I used Costco.
Let us know how you get on.
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Someone explain again why the Michelin's are such a good tyre when the fuel is always an F compared to say a Dunlop which is category C. I've got Dunlop's on my Tiguan and the test drive car I drove had pirellis on which gave better move but had a worse fuel rating.
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Someone explain again why the Michelin's are such a good tyre when the fuel is always an F compared to say a Dunlop which is category C. I've got Dunlop's on my Tiguan and the test drive car I drove had pirellis on which gave better move but had a worse fuel rating.
Generally the worse the fuel rating is the better the tyre grip is.
What do you want from your tyres? Fuel economy or grip, for me it is grip.
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Bit of both haha
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Always used Goodyear Eagle F1's in the past. Was convinced to try some Michelin PS4's and I must say I can't fault them so far.
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My mpg isn't measurably worse on my Michelin PSS shod R than when it was on Bridgestones, yet the grip is massively better, in fact i'd say the mpg was a smidge better on the Michelins - they probably won't last half as long though.
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I have 2x Michelin PS4s on the fronts, and the grip is so much better than the bridgestones. The traction control light has never been on (even in very wet conditions) since I had them fitted. As monkeyhanger says I've not noticed any worse fuel economy so far. Can't speak for longevity as I've only had them on a month or so.
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Seriously considering the new SportContact 6, supposed to be MPSS competitors and judging by their characteristics they should be a really good tyre combining nearly semi-slick dry grip but excellent wet performance as well, the later is very stressed in reviews and that is their biggest attraction in my eyes. You can find a lot of good tyres on the dry but usually this comes at a cost of wet performance. And honestly for them to be fitted on the Type-R when it did the 7:50 on the Nurburgring must mean they are more than just capable during fast/track-driving, they are supposed to be an ultra high performance tyre after all, fitted to quite powerful cars well above the 300bhp. Prices are quite reasonable as well for its class, only issue is they don't come in sizes below 19", an excuse to go one size up for the summer set :whistle:
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HAs anyone tried the new Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetrics 3? Stats look a bit better on blackcircles
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My PCP end soon (1.5month from now) my front tyres are getting close to the legal limit. Question is do I try and pick up some new cheap non branded tyres for a month or do I try and by some part worns which normally would be a no no but it would save me a fair wedge. Unless someone knows where I can grab some new ones cheap.
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My PCP end soon (1.5month from now) my front tyres are getting close to the legal limit. Question is do I try and pick up some new cheap non branded tyres for a month or do I try and by some part worns which normally would be a no no but it would save me a fair wedge. Unless someone knows where I can grab some new ones cheap.
What size wheels do you have? Not 19" by any chance are they?
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My PCP end soon (1.5month from now) my front tyres are getting close to the legal limit. Question is do I try and pick up some new cheap non branded tyres for a month or do I try and by some part worns which normally would be a no no but it would save me a fair wedge. Unless someone knows where I can grab some new ones cheap.
Now there's a dilemma.
You can get some reasonably priced branded tyres new for fairly sensible money. Uniroyal Rainsports or Vredesteins spring to mind if the thought of Wanlis fill you with dread.
Kwik Fit have just finished their annual Pirelli cash back promotion which might have been ideal.
I need two new 19" tyres and could've got Pirellis for £106.50 each after cash back (even cheaper with quidco savings) so was tempted to fit four new tyres and sell my two rear Contis on eBay.
However no matter how much the savings attracted me the fear of using Kwik Fit fitters was overwhelming so I held off.
I'm half kicking myself now and half thinking I did the right thing.
Which brings me on to used.
I've nothing against used tyres if purchased carefully.
Some eBay 'specialists' might be a less ideal place to purchase tyres from, but I've picked up tyres from eBay and forums where you've had the scenario of an enthusiast owner selling little worn rear tyres after picking up a puncture on a fairly worn front OEM tyre for example. They've junked the fronts and sold the rears choosing instead to replace all four with new ones.
Funnily enough that's similar to what I intend to do sooner or later too as my fronts are on 3mm so could be sold to someone who wants to do a track day then bin them and the rears will soldier on for a bit. Believe it or not I think I've had the fronts on my last four cars now! :grin:
Either that or I'll let the rears soldier on and pick up some lightly used OEM tyres for the fronts.
i used to buy and sell alloy wheels all the time and have owned plenty of second hand cars that come by default with second hand tyres so I'm not completely averse to buying used so long as I'm happy with the seller's credentials!
For six weeks use I think I'd be looking at used OEM spec tyres Misterp so long as they were significantly less expensive than a set of lower end decent branded new tyres.
Toss a coin for it!!
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If they are near the limit but not on or over then just drive carefully for the remaining time. Going to save you a few quid especially if it's going back.
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My PCP end soon (1.5month from now) my front tyres are getting close to the legal limit. Question is do I try and pick up some new cheap non branded tyres for a month or do I try and by some part worns which normally would be a no no but it would save me a fair wedge. Unless someone knows where I can grab some new ones cheap.
What size wheels do you have? Not 19" by any chance are they?
18s
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If they are near the limit but not on or over then just drive carefully for the remaining time. Going to save you a few quid especially if it's going back.
I have about 1mm left.
Now to make things worse rear right has a puncture. Can't make this up. Been quoted 45 on non-branded or between 25-35 for used but they are not all the same brand. Toss for it might have to.
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If they are near the limit but not on or over then just drive carefully for the remaining time. Going to save you a few quid especially if it's going back.
I have about 1mm left.
Now to make things worse rear right has a puncture. Can't make this up. Been quoted 45 on non-branded or between 25-35 for used but they are not all the same brand. Toss for it might have to.
1mm over the markers I hope (2.6mm overall)! With a PCP coming to an end, what are your intentions? Get another VW or pay the lumper to buy it and you'll be getting continued use from your new tyres (that new VW replacement will take 3-5 months to come).
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Yep 2.6mm overall that's what VW said when it was in last week for service. Due to -ve equity (price drops and px being offered) I'm going to voluntarily end the finance with VW just before cut off (20 August).
My new R arrives end of sept early October (fingers crossed). It's why I'm not wanting to pay for a good set of tyres when I won't get to use them.
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Can't put a price on safety . There has been lots of debate and people referring to bridgestones as tombstones suggesting concern over safety . So buy a good set of tyres and drive safely . That's the advice from captain sensible ... Cornwall :smiley:
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Yep 2.6mm overall that's what VW said when it was in last week for service. Due to -ve equity (price drops and px being offered) I'm going to voluntarily end the finance with VW just before cut off (20 August).
My new R arrives end of sept early October (fingers crossed). It's why I'm not wanting to pay for a good set of tyres when I won't get to use them.
Are you getting the R with 18" wheels? If you are then get two of the best tyres of your choice and keep the ones you take off to put back on the car before your R comes. That way you will have the tyres you buy now for the R
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Just had 4 Pilot sports 4's fitted and what a marked difference from my Bridgestones. Been chucking it down all day and I've not had any tramping even when flooring it. Nice not to have the traction light come on when pulling away in the wet. The ride also feels better, noise level sounds roughly the same at the minute so will be interesting to see if it improves over time. After reading some horror stories I had reservations about taking it to my local tyre centre (Kwik-Fit) but they couldn't of done more to look after my alloys. Even put a new head on their machine before putting my alloys on. Took photos beforehand just in case but they were put back on without a mark on them (spoke to the fitter first and fortunately he seemed the most experienced there, was worried the 16yr old was going to do them). Early signs are that the pilots are a great tyre, but compared to the Bridgestones I think anything would be an improvement.
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Just had 4 Pilot sports 4's fitted and what a marked difference from my Bridgestones. Been chucking it down all day and I've not had any tramping even when flooring it. Nice not to have the traction light come on when pulling away in the wet. The ride also feels better, noise level sounds roughly the same at the minute so will be interesting to see if it improves over time. After reading some horror stories I had reservations about taking it to my local tyre centre (Kwik-Fit) but they couldn't of done more to look after my alloys. Even put a new head on their machine before putting my alloys on. Took photos beforehand just in case but they were put back on without a mark on them (spoke to the fitter first and fortunately he seemed the most experienced there, was worried the 16yr old was going to do them). Early signs are that the pilots are a great tyre, but compared to the Bridgestones I think anything would be an improvement.
I've been in there (albeit around 8 years ago) and they were absolutely spot on then.
I started using them after my local Vauxhall dealer (I had an Astra VXR with the optional 19" wheels at the time) mullered one of my alloys and then took the other one to kwik fit to get the tyre changed. They omitted to mention the damage to the first one and when I first hand washed it afterwards (around a week later) spotted their error and went back in. The fast fit manager denied all responsibility until I asked to see the dealer principal and suddenly he was ordering a new wheel for me to come back and have fitted (at kwik fit funnily enough).
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Evo October 2019 (golf gti used)
1. Pirelli P Zero
3. Michelin Pilot Sport 4
3. Conti Premium contact 6
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Auto express 1587 (235/50/18)
1. Nokia Powerproof
2. Falken Azenis FK510 SUV
3. Dunlop Sport MAXX RT2 SUV
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At 26,500 miles just had first tyre change on the R and if it was not for a nearside puncture there was still some miles in the fronts - The rears still have lots of tread left in them
The R goes to auction in October and nice addition for whoever picks it up of some new fronts Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Really surprised at how tyres have lasted my GTD only went 13,000 miles before had to put new fronts on them - whats the usual GTi change mileage?
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I got 20k miles from my original Pirellis but that was for a full set as I kept the wear even by rotating them. My current PS4S are on 14k miles and at the last service in May the fronts were about 4mm so I'll be moving them around soon. I'm anticipating around 20k again.
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I got 20k miles from my original Pirellis but that was for a full set as I kept the wear even by rotating them. My current PS4S are on 14k miles and at the last service in May the fronts were about 4mm so I'll be moving them around soon. I'm anticipating around 20k again.
Thanks for that, be happy with 20,000 when get the TCR, - If not for the puncture and while we are there may as well change approach this R would have stayed on its original set when handed it back at 3 years as still a pretty decent tread groove was left and no uneven wear - Nice for the next owner though :)
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At 26,500 miles just had first tyre change on the R and if it was not for a nearside puncture there was still some miles in the fronts - The rears still have lots of tread left in them
The R goes to auction in October and nice addition for whoever picks it up of some new fronts Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Really surprised at how tyres have lasted my GTD only went 13,000 miles before had to put new fronts on them - whats the usual GTi change mileage?
Can you not sell it to a 3rd party rather than it go to auction? I know that's an option on my company lease. Seems a shame as it sounds like a nice spec car and well cared for.
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At 26,500 miles just had first tyre change on the R and if it was not for a nearside puncture there was still some miles in the fronts - The rears still have lots of tread left in them
The R goes to auction in October and nice addition for whoever picks it up of some new fronts Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Really surprised at how tyres have lasted my GTD only went 13,000 miles before had to put new fronts on them - whats the usual GTi change mileage?
Can you not sell it to a 3rd party rather than it go to auction? I know that's an option on my company lease. Seems a shame as it sounds like a nice spec car and well cared for.
To be honest not inquired so that may be possible, the new one turns up and the old one goes straight to auction, just how I like it - One of reason lease and not take the ££ and sort myself is for the complete ease of ownership which has worked out well on this car as it has required a new bumper and new rear door due to impacts which were in reality quite light but in these days of swap over repair thats the decision that was made. - For me to deal with it was one phone call and rest is done for me.
But it is well looked after and mechanically not given a days problem, runs better now than when first got it, lovely and free and responsive and economy has improved to as miles have been put on with no change in driving style. - If I was keeping I would get a professional detail, and have the Pretoria refurbed as do have some kerb rash and for about £600 it would look brand new pretty quick.
Was considering buying this one, but thought get myself a later R and maybe keep that one, but given the seeming rarity of the TCR if ownership goes well and not miss the AWD too much that might be my first keeper.
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At 26,500 miles just had first tyre change on the R and if it was not for a nearside puncture there was still some miles in the fronts - The rears still have lots of tread left in them
The R goes to auction in October and nice addition for whoever picks it up of some new fronts Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Really surprised at how tyres have lasted my GTD only went 13,000 miles before had to put new fronts on them - whats the usual GTi change mileage?
Can you not sell it to a 3rd party rather than it go to auction? I know that's an option on my company lease. Seems a shame as it sounds like a nice spec car and well cared for.
To be honest not inquired so that may be possible, the new one turns up and the old one goes straight to auction, just how I like it - One of reason lease and not take the ££ and sort myself is for the complete ease of ownership which has worked out well on this car as it has required a new bumper and new rear door due to impacts which were in reality quite light but in these days of swap over repair thats the decision that was made. - For me to deal with it was one phone call and rest is done for me.
But it is well looked after and mechanically not given a days problem, runs better now than when first got it, lovely and free and responsive and economy has improved to as miles have been put on with no change in driving style. - If I was keeping I would get a professional detail, and have the Pretoria refurbed as do have some kerb rash and for about £600 it would look brand new pretty quick.
Was considering buying this one, but thought get myself a later R and maybe keep that one, but given the seeming rarity of the TCR if ownership goes well and not miss the AWD too much that might be my first keeper.
Fair enough. There is sometimes some very easy money to be made with lease cars as simple to get a settlement figure and offer to trade and make a quick £500 for an email and phone call.
Sure you will love the TCR. I seriously thinking of a facelift R when mine goes back next June. But I'd like to try a TCR to see how it compares to my current GTI.
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At 26,500 miles just had first tyre change on the R and if it was not for a nearside puncture there was still some miles in the fronts - The rears still have lots of tread left in them
The R goes to auction in October and nice addition for whoever picks it up of some new fronts Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Really surprised at how tyres have lasted my GTD only went 13,000 miles before had to put new fronts on them - whats the usual GTi change mileage?
Can you not sell it to a 3rd party rather than it go to auction? I know that's an option on my company lease. Seems a shame as it sounds like a nice spec car and well cared for.
To be honest not inquired so that may be possible, the new one turns up and the old one goes straight to auction, just how I like it - One of reason lease and not take the ££ and sort myself is for the complete ease of ownership which has worked out well on this car as it has required a new bumper and new rear door due to impacts which were in reality quite light but in these days of swap over repair thats the decision that was made. - For me to deal with it was one phone call and rest is done for me.
But it is well looked after and mechanically not given a days problem, runs better now than when first got it, lovely and free and responsive and economy has improved to as miles have been put on with no change in driving style. - If I was keeping I would get a professional detail, and have the Pretoria refurbed as do have some kerb rash and for about £600 it would look brand new pretty quick.
Was considering buying this one, but thought get myself a later R and maybe keep that one, but given the seeming rarity of the TCR if ownership goes well and not miss the AWD too much that might be my first keeper.
Fair enough. There is sometimes some very easy money to be made with lease cars as simple to get a settlement figure and offer to trade and make a quick £500 for an email and phone call.
Sure you will love the TCR. I seriously thinking of a facelift R when mine goes back next June. But I'd like to try a TCR to see how it compares to my current GTI.
If felt had the time to I would maybe look to, but always seem to be fighting the tide with so many other things, :grin: so a simple key swap and off you go to the R will do for me :)
Imagine there be a few TCR floating around in stock by then, though I must admit I would definitely look past an Akrapovich if I could not get a deal that beats the price of an R - Obviously everything is based on what deal you can get. but if the differential is is still similar to £1500 it now costs over the R its a no brainer to take the R (for me)
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Trying to get hold of some Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres. Was looking at the offer on Costco last week but as soon as I was about to sign up they were no longer showing up on the website. I'm after 225, 35, 19's.
Is it just my browser playing up or are they no longer available in that size on Costco?
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Got mine via Blackcircles, good price and convenient as you can choose where you want them fitted from their list of garages.
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Trying to get hold of some Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres. Was looking at the offer on Costco last week but as soon as I was about to sign up they were no longer showing up on the website. I'm after 225, 35, 19's.
Is it just my browser playing up or are they no longer available in that size on Costco?
225/35 R19 are far harder to get a hold of than 235/35 R19. Why not buy some 235/35 R19? Your overall tyre'd wheel diameter will increase by 7mm (1.1%) which is well within tolerances. Over the life of the tyre (7.5mm to 1.6mm), your wheel circumference will reduce by 11.8mm.
What's the wheel width? 7.5J or 8.0J? 235 width is top end for 7.5J but middle of the road for 8.0J.
I had same dilemma getting shot of the Bridgestones on the Polo GTI+. The 18" 7.5J Brescias came on 215/40 R18, which are rarer than rocking horse sh!te and cost 50% more than 225/40 R18 of same brand as a result, so got 225/40 R18 instead, which are still a perfect fit for a 7.5J width wheel.
Costco being as anal as Costco are, refused, while fitted to the car, to swap for anything other than 215/40 R18, because the computer says that is the right tyre for that car (should have given them a Golf GTI reg no!). The only way around it was to take the wheels off the car myself and give them to the fitters, and the refit them to the car myself.
Under offer, my 225/40 R18 were £316 the set for Michelin PS4. The 215/40 R18s in PS4 were coming in at £467 the set!
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I am looking at options for winter tyres. I want to get Michelin PA4s 235/35R19, which are roughly £800. Alternatively I could get some 18" wheels and have a better tyre choice (with cheaper tyres) in 225/40R18 or similar.
Anyone with similar experiences? The car is in the North of Scotland with very wet roads and snow is not unusual even in November. I have Cup 2's on at the minute and they will need to come off very soon!
Thanks!
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I am looking at options for winter tyres. I want to get Michelin PA4s 235/35R19, which are roughly £800. Alternatively I could get some 18" wheels and have a better tyre choice (with cheaper tyres) in 225/40R18 or similar.
Anyone with similar experiences? The car is in the North of Scotland with very wet roads and snow is not unusual even in November. I have Cup 2's on at the minute and they will need to come off very soon!
Thanks!
Changing to a set of 18’s would be a good idea.
All it takes is one puncture and you kiss goodbye to £200 worth of tyre.
Plus you can keep a whole spare set of wheels and tyres for dedicated use.
I find it handy having a spare set of wheels for when you need a full sized spare or four, be it a puncture or having wheels in for refurb or whatever.
As an aside, there are two sets of wheels with winter tyres fitted and one set of 18” winter tyres for sale over on VWROC right now if you’re a member.
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Blackcircles are currently doing 15% off
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Trying to get hold of some Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres. Was looking at the offer on Costco last week but as soon as I was about to sign up they were no longer showing up on the website. I'm after 225, 35, 19's.
Is it just my browser playing up or are they no longer available in that size on Costco?
225/35 R19 are far harder to get a hold of than 235/35 R19. Why not buy some 235/35 R19? Your overall tyre'd wheel diameter will increase by 7mm (1.1%) which is well within tolerances. Over the life of the tyre (7.5mm to 1.6mm), your wheel circumference will reduce by 11.8mm.
What's the wheel width? 7.5J or 8.0J? 235 width is top end for 7.5J but middle of the road for 8.0J.
I had same dilemma getting shot of the Bridgestones on the Polo GTI+. The 18" 7.5J Brescias came on 215/40 R18, which are rarer than rocking horse sh!te and cost 50% more than 225/40 R18 of same brand as a result, so got 225/40 R18 instead, which are still a perfect fit for a 7.5J width wheel.
Costco being as anal as Costco are, refused, while fitted to the car, to swap for anything other than 215/40 R18, because the computer says that is the right tyre for that car (should have given them a Golf GTI reg no!). The only way around it was to take the wheels off the car myself and give them to the fitters, and the refit them to the car myself.
Under offer, my 225/40 R18 were £316 the set for Michelin PS4. The 215/40 R18s in PS4 were coming in at £467 the set!
Thanks for the advice. The 225's are back in stock on Costco luckily. I've taken advantage of the £100 off 4 new Michelin Pilot sport 4 S tyres. Really looking forward to see how they perform, particularly in the wet.
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Looking at replacing the Bridgestones, but surprised how many tryes are XL. Why is this? I don't drive with heavy loads so is there a disadvantage having XL tyres fitted?
Also looking for all season but there are few and far between too. Anyone driven the Michlin cross Climate XL all season?
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Bridgestone do an A005 all season tyre that is supposed to be very good.
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Personally only every run Michelin's on my cars. Have tried plenty over the years but still think Michelin are the best.
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Forgive me for veering off topic slightly here but I think there's a quick answer to this and didn't think it merited a new topic.
Is the suspension in the GTI PP the same as the suspension in the standard GTI? Reason I ask is that I had a PP test drive recently and it seemed a lot stiffer than a standard GTI I test drove a while back. Both were in Normal mode, no DCC. Maybe different tyres?
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18's vs 19's?
Aftermarket suspension mod?
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Both 18", both were VW demonstrators so I would assume no after market mods. Thinking about it, the standard GTI I drove was a 7, not a 7.5.
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Shouldn't have made any difference... the 7.5 is only a facelift.
I suspect it was just psychological..
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Thanks Fred, I didn't think it had changed but thought I would check, to be sure.
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Not that I'm wanting to get laughed off the forum as I'm enjoy it on here, but I always liked the Pirelli p zero's, I've never had them on a golf and never heard of anyone on here with them, is there a reason for that as they are at a really decent price at the minute and I'm tempted??? :undecided:
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P Zeros are (or at least were) standard fit on GTIs with 19s so plenty on here, including me, will have had them. Mine were okay but would be provoked into tramping fairly easily even in the warm and dry. They lasted reasonably well, 20k miles from a set that was regularly rotated. Not very good rim protection though, my alloys were scuffed a few times with them on. The Michelins have been much better in many ways, grip, traction and rim protection. Ride felt better too. They can be a bit noisy albeit only on the concrete sections of the M25 in Surrey where they can drone. I think the P Zeros may have been updated recently as they seem to be getting good reviews but for now, I'll stick with the Michelins :smiley:
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P Zeros are (or at least were) standard fit on GTIs with 19s so plenty on here, including me, will have had them. Mine were okay but would be provoked into tramping fairly easily even in the warm and dry. They lasted reasonably well, 20k miles from a set that was regularly rotated. Not very good rim protection though, my alloys were scuffed a few times with them on. The Michelins have been much better in many ways, grip, traction and rim protection. Ride felt better too. They can be a bit noisy albeit only on the concrete sections of the M25 in Surrey where they can drone. I think the P Zeros may have been updated recently as they seem to be getting good reviews but for now, I'll stick with the Michelins :smiley:
They certainly seem like they have to be thoroughly warm before you can put the power down in second gear. I'm glad someone else has had the same experience as me. I wanted to go with the PS4S but stuck with the P Zeros. Oh well, guess I know what I'll be having next!
Now to wear mine out so I can say to the other half, "Oh, it's a necessary expense" :laugh:
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TCR has P Zero and I've been quite impressed with them so far. They do seem more sensitive to low temperature than the PS4 were but other than when it's very cold I've experienced little in the way of spin or tramping unless being very heavy footed. Agree re the rim protector however - visually it appears larger than on the PS4 but as evidenced by my first scuff it isn't that effective (not excusing my poor judgement of course...). For those with Reifnitz, Halfords Satin Black does a good job for a, thankfully, very small touch up :cry:
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Hi. Have 12kmiles on 18 PS4 and said time to swap them around on car. Was shocked to see fronts well worn in middle of tire to about 1mm off wear indicators but sides much better. First thought over inflated but on checking discovered were under 30psi so under inflated. Topped all up to 36psi. Confused and disappointed by poor wear.
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Hi. Have 12kmiles on 18 PS4 and said time to swap them around on car. Was shocked to see fronts well worn in middle of tire to about 1mm off wear indicators but sides much better. First thought over inflated but on checking discovered were under 30psi so under inflated. Topped all up to 36psi. Confused and disappointed by poor wear.
That sounds like they have been over inflated for some time and likely the really cold weather has dropped the pressure.
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If you have an uneven wear pattern like that, it can only be over inflation.
TBH though even then 12k probably isn't far off what I'd expect, its certainly in the ball park. Only the super hard BS's last much more (15k).
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My last car was a Fiesta ST and I inflated my tyres to the pressure for 2 people in the car. When it came to swapping tyres the front were worn in the middle all the way round. I drove in the car alone most of the time. So I guess those PSI numbers aren't always accurate enough
This conversation is making me paranoid about my GTi tyre pressure now as I'm still going off the recommended and drive on my own a lot :shocked: might have to take a peek (only had the car a year though
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There is a tendency for oem's these days to suggest pressures that are over inflated by any normal definition of the term. Less tyre contact patch, less rolling resistance, less co2.
We've seen on here how on the mk7 they changed the recommended pressure over the years... That's what that is.
I looked really hard at how you could work out the right pressure for full contact patch but you need some clever gear to do it.
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In case anyone is needing tyres, Blackcircles have a 15% flash sale on selected Michelin and Dunlop tyres. Brings PS 4 down to £72 delivered if ordering 4.
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In case anyone is needing tyres, Blackcircles have a 15% flash sale on selected Michelin and Dunlop tyres. Brings PS 4 down to £72 delivered if ordering 4.
Shame I don't need any, some decent prices there.
Good spot 👍
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There is a tendency for oem's these days to suggest pressures that are over inflated by any normal definition of the term. Less tyre contact patch, less rolling resistance, less co2.
We've seen on here how on the mk7 they changed the recommended pressure over the years... That's what that is.
I looked really hard at how you could work out the right pressure for full contact patch but you need some clever gear to do it.
Shouldn't be allowed, fudge the mpg/CO2 while reducing braking efficiency putting less rubber on the road.
My A4 has 2 tyre inflation suggestions on the B pillar: "normal" (overinflated) and "comfort" (what they should be for normal wear.
I run the wife's Polo GTI 3psi less than official guidelines all round - 41psi on the fronts for 1i" wheels us ridiculous.
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I guess it depends on the degree it's reduced. Some golfs have much skinnier tyres than say a gti rolling on nineteens. Therefore the braking capability might well be the same as one on the skinny tyres.
The fact that over inflation messes up your tyres earlier than they should and makes your fillings fall out is a different thing.
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Camskill have an offer of £75 instant cashback when you buy 4 Michelin tyres.
I've just had delivered 4 Michelin PS4 tyres that worked out to £67 each. I placed the order at 10am and they were here just before midday the next day. New stock tyres too made 04 21
Can't fault the service!
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Camskill have an offer of £75 instant cashback when you buy 4 Michelin tyres.
I've just had delivered 4 Michelin PS4 tyres that worked out to £67 each. I placed the order at 10am and they were here just before midday the next day. New stock tyres too made 04 21
Can't fault the service!
Sadly doesn't apply to all Michelin PS4 tyres - 225/35 R19's not included :sad:
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Back on forum after very long time have gander at mk7 section. I have an 2018 e-golf 3 months and the tyres are awful Bridgestone turanza 16 inch. Defiantly Vw chosen for rolling resistance Economy over comfort.
Most surfaces just very course and load road roar and fine vibration all but newest surfaces. They also poor grip pulling off wet and cold. Was curious to find the quietest tyres lol if anyone experience as not want change them get same problem. I not mind loosing some range for comfort lol. Read these tyres not great reviews. If had money I’d buy some R wheels for it instead replacing tyres for these fugly aerodynamic wheels, cheers.
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I have been incredibly surprised by the Michelin Super Sports on the 18s. The wet grip in the corners makes my stage 1 GTD feel like it has torque vectoring or a kinda like LSD, you feel it biting into the road. Also, they have lasted absolutely ages. I'm constantly launching it at least 2-3 times per day (because how can you have launch control and not use it daily haha :grin:). I have done about 22,000 miles (70%motorway) and I still have about 3.5-4mm of tread. I'm honestly in shock at how good these are. The only thing that I can compare them to is Nangkang NS-2R's semi slicks (not as strong as the Nangkangs, but not far off), However, you get extremely good wet grip which you don't with the Nangkangs of course. I would highly recommend them especially for £130ish per tyre
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Camskill have an offer of £75 instant cashback when you buy 4 Michelin tyres.
I've just had delivered 4 Michelin PS4 tyres that worked out to £67 each. I placed the order at 10am and they were here just before midday the next day. New stock tyres too made 04 21
Can't fault the service!
Sadly doesn't apply to all Michelin PS4 tyres - 225/35 R19's not included :sad:
That's a shame, no such problems for us cheapskates rocking 18's though 😎
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Has anyone gone from PS4 to PS4S? If so, does the 4S give better steering feel, feedback and precision than the 4?
At 28000kms my PS4 are a mm or so off the wear bars, so approaching replacement. As good as the grip and traction has been, I've been disappointed with the lack of steering feel and feedback in the PS4. Looking at either Goodyear F1AS5, or maybe PS4S? A bit wary of the 4S after the PS4, though. Cheers
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Have you watched this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=176LXZFUucc&t=6s
(It came up on the Mk8 board here but its equally applicable I suggest)
He says the PS4S is really good except for the steering feel - sounds like a similar comment to you on the PS4!
The review does suggest some other possibilities though, but.... I think given the downsides of the other two, I'd take some steering feel loss vs the other problems. F1's too hard riding, new BS Sports dont like the cold...
I had PS4's on both of my Mk7's and really liked them - or at least liked them more than any other I tried.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wTJV4rZr/tyres.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I really like the PS4S' I have on the mk7 at the minute, I'll probably try Continental Sport Contact 6's next though.
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Have you watched this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=176LXZFUucc&t=6s
(It came up on the Mk8 board here but its equally applicable I suggest)
He says the PS4S is really good except for the steering feel - sounds like a similar comment to you on the PS4!
The review does suggest some other possibilities though, but.... I think given the downsides of the other two, I'd take some steering feel loss vs the other problems. F1's too hard riding, new BS Sports dont like the cold...
I had PS4's on both of my Mk7's and really liked them - or at least liked them more than any other I tried.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wTJV4rZr/tyres.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
drive the Bridgestones until they are warmed up slightly. Never understood the complaints about them as when they have a bit of heat in them they are a good tyre (S001s). I wonder if the same people that complained about them were ragging the car from cold too instead of letting the engine warm up a bit 🤷♂️.
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I'd be less worried to be honest about the need to warm up with the BS Sports vs his actual main negative comment:
(https://i.postimg.cc/hGLmnWcJ/tyres2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
You can warm tyres up for sure, you can't stop the rain...this is the UK, we get a fair amount of rain.
At the start of the video he talks about how all tyres are compromise - this is totally true.
You need to pick a tyre for the use you will get out of it. I suggest something that can handle rain is probably more important than lap times on a dry test track in Spain.
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Have you watched this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=176LXZFUucc&t=6s
(https://i.postimg.cc/wTJV4rZr/tyres.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Yes, have poured over that excellent video, thanks Fred. I love his reviews.
I might revisit the Conti...?
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When talking about tyre use 97% - 99% of someones driving will under 50mph, the bridgestone have a firm ride on 18's and aren't the best for cabin noise.
Pirelli P-Zero's are some of the comfiest tyre's I've driven on but they are still outclassed by my PS4S'. I found going to 19's far more comfortable than 18's with bridgestones s001's
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Running p zero on my gti performance at the present 19 inch Only one tyre needs replaced So probably put Pirelli back on just to keep all the same but fellow who owns the local tyre place I use trying to get me to put the continental s on. Says they are a great tyre
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Any deals on Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 tyres ?? :smiley:
Also is anyone able to tell me if I'm ok just getting 2 for the front wheels and not 4? As the tyres on the back are fine.
New to the tyre game as previous cars were less powerful so I got away with any tyres, and garage I bought car from put cheap 'CatchPower' tyres on my GTi which spin too easily
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Running p zero on my gti performance at the present 19 inch Only one tyre needs replaced So probably put Pirelli back on just to keep all the same but fellow who owns the local tyre place I use trying to get me to put the continental s on. Says they are a great tyre
I’ve recently had 4 x continental premium contact 6 fitted and I am very impressed. I had premium contact 5 on previously and the pc 6 are much more refined and handle just as well. They look great when dressed also. :wink: Highly recommended.
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Any deals on Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 tyres ?? :smiley:
Also is anyone able to tell me if I'm ok just getting 2 for the front wheels and not 4? As the tyres on the back are fine.
New to the tyre game as previous cars were less powerful so I got away with any tyres, and garage I bought car from put cheap 'CatchPower' tyres on my GTi which spin too easily
It's your car and you can do whatever you want with the tyres! :)
However, conventional wisdom for powerful fwd cars is to fit the better tyres on the rear, this aids stability under high speed braking and reduces lift off over steer...
Also, the old tyres on the front are more likely to wear out on fwd, you can then replace with new to match the rears which will show much less wear on them.
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Well the tyres on the front are CatchPower crap which are a year and 5 months old and only done 2,000 miles. They loose grip too easily under acceleration so don't give me much confidence. The rear haven't been an issue but I doubt they're as good as the F1's I suppose. I can't remember what tyres are on the rear but have a feeling they say 'Rosso' on. Will check tomorrow. Now you're making me contemplate changing all 4 but that's a lot to spend when I'm thinking about spending money elsewhere :grin:
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I'd be changing all four if it was me. Why compromise when the tyre is the only thing between you and the road and possibly a ditch or hedge.
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Well the tyres on the front are CatchPower crap which are a year and 5 months old and only done 2,000 miles. They loose grip too easily under acceleration so don't give me much confidence. The rear haven't been an issue but I doubt they're as good as the F1's I suppose. I can't remember what tyres are on the rear but have a feeling they say 'Rosso' on. Will check tomorrow. Now you're making me contemplate changing all 4 but that's a lot to spend when I'm thinking about spending money elsewhere :grin:
Catchpower and Rosso are absolute cheap sh1te, I'd be replacing them right away. In fact, if a dealer was selling a car with them on, I'd walk away. Either the previous owner has scrimped maintenance or the dealer has needed replaced them and chose them to keep costs down. Makes you wonder what else have they done or missed out to cut costs.
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Jesus, as mcmaddy and the post above says really. I bet it's awful to drive with them on.
Ironic that they're called catchpower but just spin 😂
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I read it as "cat power".... like this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/BQbWf3L1/cats.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I bought my GTi used and it came with a full, new set of the sort of budget tyres mentioned here... I had no confidence in it, you couldn't use the power in a straight line let alone carry speed through corners, or maintain a consistent high(ish) speed with confidence. I learned most of that on the way home from picking it up. In some moments I wondered if the car had a fault, but convinced myself it was the tyres.
Within 24-hours it was in Costco having PS4's fitted and it suddenly felt exactly how I expected it to. Money very, very well spent. FWIW, two years and just over 20k miles later, the same tyres are still fitted with plenty of life left.
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Thanks :grin: now my spend has just doubled. Going to get Eagle F1's all round
But on a serious note, thanks everyone for the feedback. I did see Costco had a deal on a set of 4 F1 tyres a few months back but it might now be still on. On a positive note, if Costco is a good price I can get a Trade Membership for Costco for around £25 for a year I think
Anyone know of any other deals ??
Current tyre size are 225/40ZR18
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So my current tyres say on them: 225/40ZR18
Can someone please confirm that these are 100% the ones I need. I'm a bit of an amateur when it comes to buying tyre so trying to learn and don't want to mess up ordering :grin:
https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/goodyear/eagle-f1-asymmetric-5/225/40/R18/Y/92/f?tyre=38601674
Price works out at - £259.76
(£71.19 x 4 - £25 with voucher for buying 4)
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So my current tyres say on them: 225/40ZR18
Can someone please confirm that these are 100% the ones I need. I'm a bit of an amateur when it comes to buying tyre so trying to learn and don't want to mess up ordering :grin:
https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/goodyear/eagle-f1-asymmetric-5/225/40/R18/Y/92/f?tyre=38601674
Price works out at - £259.76
(£71.19 x 4 - £25 with voucher for buying 4)
Yep that's all correct 225/40R18 is the standard fitment for GTI's with 18's and the ZR speed rating is for over 150mph :smiley:
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So my current tyres say on them: 225/40ZR18
Can someone please confirm that these are 100% the ones I need. I'm a bit of an amateur when it comes to buying tyre so trying to learn and don't want to mess up ordering :grin:
https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/goodyear/eagle-f1-asymmetric-5/225/40/R18/Y/92/f?tyre=38601674
Price works out at - £259.76
(£71.19 x 4 - £25 with voucher for buying 4)
£260 seems a bargain for 4 quality performance tyres! When I had my Audi, for 17s they were £130 each 18 years ago. Thinking about it, for 15s on the Lotus I had in the 90s was about the same too.
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So my current tyres say on them: 225/40ZR18
Can someone please confirm that these are 100% the ones I need. I'm a bit of an amateur when it comes to buying tyre so trying to learn and don't want to mess up ordering :grin:
https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/goodyear/eagle-f1-asymmetric-5/225/40/R18/Y/92/f?tyre=38601674
Price works out at - £259.76
(£71.19 x 4 - £25 with voucher for buying 4)
Are you aware that price excludes fitting etc?
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£260 seems a bargain for 4 quality performance tyres! When I had my Audi, for 17s they were £130 each 18 years ago. Thinking about it, for 15s on the Lotus I had in the 90s was about the same too.
I paid £260 last year for the exact same set of tyres, same discount code and same company lol. Golf Tyres are a mystery to be honest my brother went from a 3 series to a mk7 and thought £260 was for two 18's not a set of 4 lol :grin:
Probably a benefit of so much badge engineering by VAG group majority of cars have 18's all 225/40R18 to keep running costs down.
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So my current tyres say on them: 225/40ZR18
Can someone please confirm that these are 100% the ones I need. I'm a bit of an amateur when it comes to buying tyre so trying to learn and don't want to mess up ordering :grin:
https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/goodyear/eagle-f1-asymmetric-5/225/40/R18/Y/92/f?tyre=38601674
Price works out at - £259.76
(£71.19 x 4 - £25 with voucher for buying 4)
Are you aware that price excludes fitting etc?
Yeah. I was going to ask my local which I always go to how much they'd charge for fitting. They also sell the tyres but are £100 more :shocked:
The tyres on BlackCircles are £71.19 or £87.99 fully fitted. How does that work out when you're buying 4 tyres? Is it £16 extra for fitting or £16 extra per tyre?
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So my current tyres say on them: 225/40ZR18
Can someone please confirm that these are 100% the ones I need. I'm a bit of an amateur when it comes to buying tyre so trying to learn and don't want to mess up ordering :grin:
https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/goodyear/eagle-f1-asymmetric-5/225/40/R18/Y/92/f?tyre=38601674
Price works out at - £259.76
(£71.19 x 4 - £25 with voucher for buying 4)
Are you aware that price excludes fitting etc?
Yeah. I was going to ask my local which I always go to how much they'd charge for fitting. They also sell the tyres but are £100 more :shocked:
The tyres on BlackCircles are £71.19 or £87.99 fully fitted. How does that work out when you're buying 4 tyres? Is it £16 extra for fitting or £16 extra per tyre?
It’s an extra £16.80 per tyre for fully fitted, making the total £87.99 x 4 = £351.96. However, I see Blackcircles currently have a promotion running on these tyres; £25 discount if you’re buying 4, so that brings the fitted price down to £326.96.
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It’s an extra £16.80 per tyre for fully fitted, making the total £87.99 x 4 = £351.96. However, I see Blackcircles currently have a promotion running on these tyres; £25 discount if you’re buying 4, so that brings the fitted price down to £326.96.
Thanks. I've actually just checked the Halfords website and they do them for £299 fully fitted (At one of their stores or they'll come to your house) :shocked:. Seems like a good price. Not sure if the home service is any good though?
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Costco have an offer on Michelin tyres at the moment, buy 2 and get £50 off, buy 4 and get £100 off.
Im having 2 PS4's 235/35/19's fitted tomorrow, £235 fitted. I like costco as they are nitrogen filled, workshop is generally spotless too. Anyway, the Costco offer is on until the end of May.
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I went and ordered a full set of 4 Goodyear Eagle F1 AS5 tryes :smiley:. £299 fully fitted from Halfords and they're coming to me and fitting on my drive Friday. Can't wait and hope it's a big improvement!
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Just fitted a set of Michelin pilot sport 4S's to mine (19s)
Much better than the original p zeros
Hope they last as long.
Black circles had a flash sale good to keep am eye on there site have them quite often.
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Just fitted a set of Michelin pilot sport 4S's to mine (19s)
Much better than the original p zeros
Hope they last as long.
Black circles had a flash sale good to keep am eye on there site have them quite often.
My PS4S on my last car still had some life in them after 19k+ miles when I sold the car. I had 20k miles from my P-Zeros before them.
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Can I ask how much you paid per tyre for a PS4S?
I thought I'd check them out to see how much they are for 18" and can't seem to get them below £160!
Pretty sure I'll be changing to PS4's at £89 each when the time comes.
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Is that just the tyre price?
I am fairly sure my last PS4 18's fitted to my GTD were something like 120ish each.
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Just fitted a set of Michelin pilot sport 4S's to mine (19s)
Much better than the original p zeros
Hope they last as long.
Black circles had a flash sale good to keep am eye on there site have them quite often.
My PS4S on my last car still had some life in them after 19k+ miles when I sold the car. I had 20k miles from my P-Zeros before them.
That's good to know got about same from my p zeros
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Yep, PS4's on 18" via Blackcircles are currently £87 fitted.
They are £100 each and then they have 15% off the total.
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Reviving this one.
What's the story on tyres now as I'm due 4 tyres soon and would rather be on the look out for deals.
Current prices for 225/35R19's are:
Continental Sport Contact 7 - £630.28
Michelin Pilot Sports 4S - £615.03 (with a 15% off voucher)
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 6 - £638.20
I'd say Pilot Sport 5 but I don't believe they're available in 225 yet
So all around the same, which is the best? I'm currently running the Pilot Sport 4S's which I'm happy with but are the new Goodyear and Continentals better in driving feedback & grip?
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Have a look on Asda tyres.
Goodyear aassymetric 6 are £153 per tyre but if you buy 4 they give you a £40 amazon voucher.
That is an all-in price.
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Have you looked into 235's size increase? From reading they offer some extra rim protection and no loss in feel or performance. Obviously it's not standard size so it could be argued that there's risks with insurance and the speedo will be out very slightly. Oddly I found that these were slightly cheaper in that size compared to standard.
Is the Pilot Sport 4S not a superior tyre to the PS4 or 5 and classed as an Ultra High Performance tyre (previously classified as super sports)? Likely they will bring out PS5S out at some point?
My money would go on Michelin from previous tyre experience, they seem to just do everything well. Although that can be very subjective and different from rim size to car models!
Have a look at the guy that does tyre reviews on youtube, there's probably a video comparing these tyres. (Found this after a quick search)
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2022-Tyre-Reviews-UHP-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm
From a glance, looks like the Conti's won but not sure if it mentions rate of wear!
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Got to agree with everything Rich62 says there.
The MPS 4S is the GTI of tyres.
I’ll need some new fronts soon and if there was a contender that had actually moved the game on I’d dive in and buy a full set of those, but I’m far from convinced there is so won’t be hesitating to buy Michelin 4S’s again.
235’s will be fine for sure on a 7.5” width rim saving a bit of £€
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Wouldn’t bother with the 235’s personally. Engineers paid more than me decided that 225 was the correct tyre size for a 7.5j wide alloy on a GTI.
I’ll get the rest of summer out of this set then I’ll have my winters on so I’ll wait through winter to see if there’s any better deals or news about the PS5S coming out. Continental are meant to be top dog now but with aqua planing but Michelin edge it in the dry so bit of a mute point for me.
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I'd also wait for owner reviews of "top dog" Conti's..... from previous experience their performance tyres do not last as well as Michelin.
Fun fact (?), in the cycling world, Continental are genuinely leading the way in road bike tyres, Michelin have fallen behind in the last few years..... will we see that advancement in road car tyres?
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Makes a lot of sense clubsport, I’m sure Conti will be trying
Wouldn’t bother with the 235’s personally. Engineers paid more than me decided that 225 was the correct tyre size for a 7.5j wide alloy on a GTI.
A very over simplified view but I’ll take your point.
We’d never deviate from manufacturer spec on anything whatsoever if we followed that rigidly.
Yes, the 225 will fit more squarely but we are talking 5mm each side of the centreline spread across 7.5” of rim width.
I’m pretty certain the engineers choice would be as much to do with emissions ratings as anything else.
But for the sake of simplicity and peace of mind then yes, 225’s would be best.
Looks like you’re not in a rush so plenty of time to get more feedback on some of the new kids on the block rubberware.
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In theory a 235 width tyre is a modification, and if done by the book and declared to your insurance it could well cost more than you would save by buying them in the first place.
I know it is a trivial mod, but as soon as you add anything like that to your quotes on comparison sites you get less results and higher prices.
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I’m not even considering the 235’s to be honest, a team of engineers that know more about dynamics than I chose a 225 for the 7.5j Brescias so I’m not going to argue over £20 a tyre.
I’m going to go with PS4s’ again, I only run them in summer and have dedicated winters so don’t get the gains from the Continentals that make them better than the Michelins.
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I have Conti SportContact 7 on front and PS4S rear. Have a spare pair of SC7 sitting in the house as just arrived from Germany as can’t buy them in UK anywhere.
So far so good in the dry, feel like a bit more grip, haven’t had any rain to try in the wet and road noise seems a bit better. Obviously won’t know properly until rears have worn enough to change and have full set on but happy so far and the price I got them for I’m very happy with 😁
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Hi all, time appears to have come to replace the tyres on my 7.5 PP.
What's the thinking on Michelin PS4.
I don't drive the car hard but want a year round tyre
PS4 are just over £100 on BlackCircles and the PS4S is quite a bit more.
In real terms is it worth spending more. Is there an alternative that anyone has experience of?
I read somewhere on here that the PS4 is better than the stock tyre, I think mine has Bridgestone.
Thanks
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I will need to replace the fronts on mine soon.
Currently it has Pirelli Pzero which are pretty poor in the wet I find.
I will most likely go for Goodyear Assymetric 6 unless I can get a good deal on one of the competitors like the SC7, PS-5 or Potenza Sport.
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Try Blackcircles, I got a good deal from them.
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It’s also worth checking out Asda Tyres - mentioned on the Seat Cupra forum a while back.
They’re quite often a few £’s cheaper than Blackcircles and they do have regular or ongoing promotions; usually in the form of money off vouchers for use in Asda stores.
I think Asda Tyres use many of the same tyre fitting places that Blackcircles use.
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Good call on the Goodyear's. Had assy 3's on my Audi A6 and was happy with them. Only £1 each cheaper than PS4 though
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Costco have Goodyears on offer starting on Monday for three weeks.
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Oooh, will see what the price is, thanks
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Has anyone got 1st hand experience of the Goodyear Assymetric 5 on a Mk7.5 GTi PP?
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Has anyone got 1st hand experience of the Goodyear Assymetric 5 on a Mk7.5 GTi PP?
Not a mk 7.5 but I found they were fairly crap compared to Michelins
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I'm very happy with my change to PS4S a couple of weeks ago. Really good in the wet, not a hint of any spin unlike the Pirellis which would even in warm weather with minimally damp conditions.
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Looks like the Goodyear's have gone from Costco anyway now ...
Still got a good few weeks at least in the current tyres so the search goes on!
Cheers for the info
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Looks like the Goodyear's have gone from Costco anyway now ...
Still got a good few weeks at least in the current tyres so the search goes on!
Cheers for the info
offer is on until 9th October at Costco. You're better off going to your local and speaking to them as not all tyres show on the website or app. I was quoted £287 for four Asy 6s on my TCR (18")
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I was quoted £287 for four Asy 6s on my TCR (18")
Now that really is a bargain!
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I was quoted £287 for four Asy 6s on my TCR (18")
Now that really is a bargain!
Great deal. I'd have no hesitation buying at that price if I needed tyres.
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Doing some of my own research ready to purchase new tyres to replace the assy 2s that are still on my mk6. Interested in peoples' views who have fitted assy 6 as it was designed to also cope with EVs as well as ICEs. Wondered if the side wall was stiffer to cope with the extra weight of EVs and effect of ride on rough roads?
Also thought this was an interesting review of 3 Michelin tyres - primacy 4+ vs pilot sport 5 vs pilot 4s in spite of not being ideal test conditions.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=michelin+primacy+4+vs+pilot+sport+4+vs+ps4s+review&docid=608007476564856281&mid=1947E759B53A0B8537091947E759B53A0B853709&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
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I fitted a set of ASY 6’s to the family wagon Mercedes’ E Class in 19” guise. They are still very comfortable and not noticeably harder than the 5’s that were on her previously. Grip and wet weather handling very good too. Can’t comment on them in a gti until my own is due a change
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I fitted a set of ASY 6’s to the family wagon Mercedes’ E Class in 19” guise. They are still very comfortable and not noticeably harder than the 5’s that were on her previously. Grip and wet weather handling very good too. Can’t comment on them in a gti until my own is due a change
Thanks for the reply. Useful to get real world feedback rather than smooth test track reviews. 19s are a good test on uk roads. Hopefully will also get some 18 and 19 gti feedback as well. :smiley:
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Its worth considering tyre weights too, as these differ by a few kg amongst the brands, which all adds to the way the car handles .
I cant find any weights for the PS5 or ASYM 6 at the minute
Tyre size: 235 35 19
GY Asymmetric 5 - 9.58kg
Conti 5P FR AO - 9.8kg
Pirelli P Zero RO1 - 9.87kg
Michelin PSS - 9.96kg
Hankook Ventus V12 evo 2 - 10,02kg
Pirelli P Zero: - 10.2kg
Michelin PS4S - 10,22kg
Falken Azenis 10.43kg
Hankook S1 Evo 2 - 11.00kg
Conti 6 FR XL - 13.430kg
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I am a little bit wary of tyres being made lighter. My brother runs Goodyear Efficientgrip performance 2 on his car (Skoda) and they seem more prone to punctures due to cuts in the tyre.
It could be a could be just a coincidence of course, but he has lost two tyres in a year where as he didn't have any issues with the previous heavy Cooper Zeons which he had for 4 years.
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Not thought about tyre weight. Interesting difference in some tyre weights. Unsprung weight makes a difference to handling but probably only noticeable on a track. Might be better to change to lighter wheels, callipers and discs for weight savings if going that far. :smiley:
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Blimey, those Contis are a bit lumpy!!
Shove a set of those on some hefty Chinese replica alloys and you could get a job as a steamroller.
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My fronts are probably down to 2.5mm so they'll be changed by the end of the year.
Have to say one of the reasons I stuck with 18" was not only the ride but the cost of new tyres, I'm going to stick with Michelin's and go up to PS5's and keep the PS4's on the back even though on Black circles the 5's are slightly more than the 4's.
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Was quoted £286 or close to it for the Assy 6 so I'm booked in for Sunday for fitting.
If anyone wants 4x Bridgestone still legal to use as track day tyre etc drop me a message and we can sort something out.
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For how many???
Incl fitting, etc?
And where?
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Black circles (my go to) is 100 a corner all in.
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I used Asda tyres the last couple of times. I found them a few quid cheaper than Black circles.
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My nearest Asda centre is a 40 mile round trip.
Even worse with Costco…..a 120 mile round trip!
I will stay local I think.
That means Blackcircles centre 3 mile round trip.
I wonder where the OP is getting theirs from and if they cost in fitting, balancing and disposal??
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4 tyres fitted and balanced at Costco.
Offered ended Sunday 9th
My Bridgestone are still legal for a few thousand but the offer is too good to pass up at that price.
Don't really have storage space when I take the old ones off so thought I'd offer them here.
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Thanks. That was a nice deal you got!
If only I was closer to a Costco…..I know they do some good offers.
I would be interested to hear your opinion of the AS5s in due course.
I need to change my Pilot Sport 4 fronts soon and it’s a toss up between Goodyear AS5 and latest version of PS.
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Sorry…for AS5 read AS6 of course!
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I'll pop back in the next couple of weeks and give you an update!
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All fitted nicely, super quick and clean service at Costco.
Quick drive out to take the shine off them and seem OK. Will let you know how they are in a few weeks.
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500 miles on the Goodyears now. No complaints.
50/50 motorway and b road journey.
Well chuffed with the purchase.
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Good stuff. Thanks for the feedback.
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My 2019 GTI needs 4 new tyres,
ATS: £369 for 4 Goodyear EAGLE F1 ASYMMETRIC 6 (includes a £68 discount for buying 4)
National Tyres (part of Halfords): £353.56 for 4 Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 6 (225/40 R18 92Y) (includes a 15% discount for 4 tyres)
Halfords: £364 for 4 Bridgestone Potenza Sport (225/40 R18 92Y) XL (includes a 15% discount for 4 tyres)
Is there a forum favourite or would either of the above tyres be good, my car currently has Bridgetsone on the rear and some cheap brand which were put on when I bought the car 10k miles ago by the dealer and they are done. The Bridgetsones have clearly lasted a lot longer. Do I need to worry about the fitting of tyres at national or halfords?
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My 2019 GTI needs 4 new tyres,
ATS: £369 for 4 Goodyear EAGLE F1 ASYMMETRIC 6 (includes a £68 discount for buying 4)
National Tyres (part of Halfords): £353.56 for 4 Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 6 (225/40 R18 92Y) (includes a 15% discount for 4 tyres)
Halfords: £364 for 4 Bridgestone Potenza Sport (225/40 R18 92Y) XL (includes a 15% discount for 4 tyres)
Is there a forum favourite or would either of the above tyres be good, my car currently has Bridgetsone on the rear and some cheap brand which were put on when I bought the car 10k miles ago by the dealer and they are done. The Bridgetsones have clearly lasted a lot longer. Do I need to worry about the fitting of tyres at national or halfords?
Michelin would be my choice
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Goodyear gets my vote. Seem to go back to them eventually after trying other brands. For fitting need to go by local reputation of the fitting depot. I tend to try to watch carefully and point out any blemishes ( or none) on the alloys before they start the job. Tends to make them more careful!
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Recently had four 18" PS5's fitted for £113 each via a local fitter who price matched BC. Can't complain so far.
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I have Goodyear Eagles all round on mine. Very happy with them, much more grippy than the Bridgestones.
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Asymmetric 6s on my TCR, great tyre.
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If you want a top performing tyre look no further than the Assymetric 6 or Michelin PS-5.
Our Golf has PZeros on it and whilst they don't give quite as much grip as the above the wear is a lot better.
I have Goodyear Assymetric 6 on my BMW and grip is exceptional, but they are wearing fast...
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Check the Michelin website, cash back deal running at the mo..
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AS6 all round here, fantastic tyre, softer than some though so I find they wear quicker. Them or the Conti SC7's would be my choice.
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Anyone running Pilot sport 5 if so what the verdict?
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Anyone running Pilot sport 5 if so what the verdict?
Yep, put 4 on in March to replace the original Pontenza’s. Much smoother and quieter ride. Seem to grip well.
No complaints.
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Anyone running Pilot sport 5 if so what the verdict?
Yep, put 4 on in March to replace the original Pontenza’s. Much smoother and quieter ride. Seem to grip well.
No complaints.
👍 I had PS4's before and was blvery impressed 5s were not available then.
Ard they 18s or 19s on yours?
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Anyone running Pilot sport 5 if so what the verdict?
Yep, put 4 on in March to replace the original Pontenza’s. Much smoother and quieter ride. Seem to grip well.
No complaints.
👍 I had PS4's before and was blvery impressed 5s were not available then.
Ard they 18s or 19s on yours?
18’s
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Anyone running Pilot sport 5 if so what the verdict?
I have PS5 18's they are ok, I would say they are a nice tyre, good allrounder, nothing special, just a solid tyre in all conditions. Nothing remotely sporty about them except the name in the title though. Having had many Michelin's over the years, Exalto's, PS2, PS4, PSS and now PS5 I'm not sure I would buy another set.
Perhaps the PS5S or whatever its called might be a nice option whenever it comes out. Having had the GY ASY 5 and thought it was a step above the PS4, I might go for GY ASY 6 personally.
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Anyone running Pilot sport 5 if so what the verdict?
Also running PS5's (235/35R19), as EB2019 said they're not a wow tyre, but they're also not meant to be. They're middle of the road in the UHP tyre bracket, do everything really well but because of this they don't feel as sporty.
I do really like mine, but I did prefer the PS4S' I had before because of the better handling, but the roads around me are terrible so I don't really miss them either. If you want more of that you're best to look at Goodyear or Continental.
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Anyone running Pilot sport 5 if so what the verdict?
Also running PS5's (235/35R19), as EB2019 said they're not a wow tyre, but they're also not meant to be. They're middle of the road in the UHP tyre bracket, do everything really well but because of this they don't feel as sporty.
I do really like mine, but I did prefer the PS4S' I had before because of the better handling, but the roads around me are terrible so I don't really miss them either. If you want more of that you're best to look at Goodyear or Continental.
Thanks for the feedback everyone I will have a think. Current 19s are Hancock evo3 (std from new) and in all honesty I would never have bought them but generally as an everyday tyre they are not too bad tbh.
I fo a fair amount of miles a year so the PS5 maybe good choice also as they supposed to last well too.
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Mileage wise I personally don't know about the ps5's, fitted mine in June and all of them are on around 5.2-5.7mm (checked end of Sept).
Which would be circa 4k - 5k miles, hopefully it's just an initial drop off, as I'd like to see them get at least 20k miles. Previous PS4S did get 30k miles so I'm assuming it is.
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Took the 19s CM Prets off recently that had PS4S to prep for sale and put standard 18s back on with set of new Conti sport contact 7 for other half, no complaints from her and I took it a blast a week ago and seem a great tyre great grip wet and dry
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Two weeks ago I had four PS4 tyres fitted at Costco £376 with the Michelin discount. They are 18’s and went on the GT estate, I run them also on the GTi, happy with them, softer and quieter than the Goodyear that came off
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I’m in the market for 4 off 19in tyres, what’s the current consensus? :)
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I'm not sure there is a consensus, in that premium brand tyres are good enough for most of us? :)
From recent tests the best of the current crop are Continental sport contact 7, Michelin PS5 & Goodyear Eagle F1 assymetric 6.
I needed a pair, I went with the Goodyear as they were available at the best price on a black Friday deal.
Slightly controvesially, I went with 235/35/19 on my Brescia rims, partly for better rim protection and also 235/35/19 appear to be cheaper and more available than 225/35/19 original fitment.
Having driven 100 miles or less on them, I am unable to comment on how they drive, but the VW garage was happy when it passed it's Mot. :)
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I’ve gone for Pilot 4S. Get them fitted tomorrow, £710 for 4…