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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: trueblue_ips on 17 March 2019, 15:54
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Hello, after pondering for a few months I'm looking to buy my first ever new car in the Summer and the GTI PP meets my requirements. Looking to buy on PCP with a decent deposit to keep the monthlies low with VW Finance offering a low 3.6% interest rate.
I've been looking at options on drivethedeal as recommended by another poster. Appreciate its a personal thing to some extent but does anyone have any thoughts on my below choices? Anything I should swap? I like the look of Solid white with:
90% rear tints
Sunroof - as much for the asthetic black/white contrast as functional use
Climate windscreen - I do a lot of short journeys so think I would use this a lot in winter
19" Brescia alloys
DCC - rightly or wrongly I see this as a relatively cheap must have with 19" wheels
I'm not sure if I'd be better off replacing the Brescia wheels and DCC with Oynx White for metallic paint.
I would definitely have spec'd keyless and reversing camera so lucky these are now "free" :smiley:
Part of the reason for me wanting new is that Used cars available don't have many options fitted (maybe ex lease?).
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Can't tell you what you should do, I can only tell you what I would do.
£1k is a lot to spend on a sunroof if it's mostly wanted for the contrast against the paint. A black roof wrap would be far cheaper. As much as I like Oryx White, i'd rather have Pure White and a grand in my back pocket.
I have the rear camera and the climate screen, and am happy with them both. Brescia alloys I am indifferent about, but i'd try and have a go in a car with 19's first to see if you are happy with the ride before speccing DCC.
The GTi is a great all rounder, its best features are the ones that already come as standard. In fact looking through the options list, I think all i'd be bothered about would be metallic paint and the climate screen.
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Standard tint is fine, plenty dark enough. If you are prepared to consider dropping 19s and DCC for Oryx then why not go for standard spec with solid white and save a big pile of cash? If it were me I'd probably go with what I've got again, 3dr TR with Brescias, perfect :smiley:
Oh, nearly forgot, I do lots of short journeys too and find the screen clears pretty quickly, never been a problem.
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Hello, after pondering for a few months I'm looking to buy my first ever new car in the Summer and the GTI PP meets my requirements. Looking to buy on PCP with a decent deposit to keep the monthlies low with VW Finance offering a low 3.6% interest rate.
I've been looking at options on drivethedeal as recommended by another poster. Appreciate its a personal thing to some extent but does anyone have any thoughts on my below choices? Anything I should swap? I like the look of Solid white with:
90% rear tints
Sunroof - as much for the asthetic black/white contrast as functional use
Climate windscreen - I do a lot of short journeys so think I would use this a lot in winter
19" Brescia alloys
DCC - rightly or wrongly I see this as a relatively cheap must have with 19" wheels
I'm not sure if I'd be better off replacing the Brescia wheels and DCC with Oynx White for metallic paint.
I would definitely have spec'd keyless and reversing camera so lucky these are now "free" :smiley:
Part of the reason for me wanting new is that Used cars available don't have many options fitted (maybe ex lease?).
I can only comment on items that I have experience of in my cars:
Our GTD has a sunroof, I didn't spec it, it was a 5 mile demonstrator that was close enough to what we needed and saved a long wait. I would never have spec'd a sunroof but having had one, there are pros and cons. There have been a few days in summer when it's been great but the cover slide constantly works itself backwards and always seems to be a few centimetres from the fully closed position. It's a minor irritation. The other thing that's a bit of a pain is cleaning the mesh on the sunroof. The diffuser material is very fine and insect life builds up on it. From a performance perspective, it's a lot of weight up high but I've never driven cars with and without to say that you can feel the difference.
90% rear tints are good for privacy and more for aesthetic.
Climate windscreen is something that I've spec'd on a recent car I've ordered. De-icer isn't great for sealants and finishes so would rather heat the screen. I'm hoping that they introduce a software update which allows you to warm the car up remotely where the climate windscreen would really come into its own! I wouldn't say it's not an essential option though.
Hope this helps.
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Having ordered mine in January and taken delivery last week; given the options you've listed below my take on each of them is:
90% rear tints
Personally, I wouldn't bother as standard tint is 65% and is good enough. But it's a relatively cheap option so neither here nor there in the grand scheme of things.
Sunroof
Save your cash, you'll never use it in the UK anyway!
Climate windscreen
Can't really comment on this one, mine is garaged overnight so de-icing has never been a problem for me.
19" Brescia alloys
I spec'd these more because I disliked the standard 18" Parkers than liking the Brescia style, which I'm indifferent to. In hindsight I'd probably just pick the standard wheels now. Having seen them for the first time in the flesh recently, they're not as bad as they look in photos and videos. Online they look as if they're funnel-shaped and go in at the centre but you don't see this in real life and the black accents are more apparent. I've changed my opinion on them. That said, the Brescia rides ok despite having a 19 inch rim, so if you like the style, go for it.
DCC
I dithered over this for many hours. As I was already at the top end of my budget, I was actually considering dropping the 19s rather than keeping them and adding DCC. In the end, I kept the 19s and took a gamble on not going for the DCC. The ride and handling are fine, so I'd say it's not necessary but if you have the cash to spare (which you should have, if you've heeded my sunroof advice) I'd tick the box. As others have mentioned here before, it can really alter the dynamics of the car and make for a really comfortable drive if you're not in the mood for a B-road blast.
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Spec is obviously a personal choice but I’m glad I chose 19 inch Brescias, leather interior and Dynaudio sound. Indium Grey is a great colour but then I’m biased :laugh:. The GTi leather with red stitching looks great and in my view gives the car a more luxury feel. I had a Mk7 GTi for 3 years with checked cloth seats and was more than happy with this but my Mk7.5 does feel a step up.
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If I was ordering a new 7.5 I'd go for Art Velours interior. Adds some leather around the trim but none of the disadvantages of leather seats. And they look rather nice too.
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Forget the sunroof.
Thought long and hard before getting one on my car, wish I had not.
Groans and creaks in hot weather when closed and as others have said get the roof wrapped instead because the black effect does look good.
Also 'cos of our weather it is rarely used.
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Options are personal and linked to budget, so only you can really decide. There are types "need" options which you couldn't live without, and "nice to haves".
The fact you are thinking of adding a paint rather than DCC & wheels is an indicator to me that you are not quite yet at a place where you know what options you "need". Go and test drive cars, experience options and find out for yourself what ticks your boxes.
For me DCC and Dynaudio were must have "need", no question. That's because of the type of driving I do and my love of music. I wasn't buying a car without them. My thoughts on DCC can be found HERE (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=284721.0). Dynaudio is night & day different to the standard, so if music is your thing, make sure you tick the box.
Sunroof, nice to have, not essential, but I'd disagree with others who say you'd never use it, mine gets opened as soon as there's any sun, it makes the cabin feel much more light and airy especially on a Sunday morning b-road blast like I was doing yesterday.
Colour, very subjective, only you can choose. There's 'sporty/classic' colours, and there's newer subtler colours which can be seen as a bit more classy. I went for something that is befitting for a 42year old, and something that contrasts with the red detail. I don't like Oryx, I think it's quite a cheap looking colour, if you want a classic colour stick with the solid white.
90% Tints. Not for me, way too boy racer and not needed. The 65% tints are more than adequate. I speak from experience with 2 young children.
When I placed my order I forgot to tick the climate windscreen box, but now I've lived without it, I don't really miss it. Nice to have, but certainly not essential.
As for other options, Leather adds a touch of class and luxury to the cabin, electric drivers seat allows you to get the perfect driving position (again, needed if you do big miles), and the bigger wheels give it a bit of a better stance. But again, most options are subjective.
In short, add what you "need", then add what you want with any money left over in your budget. :smiley:
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I like a sunroof, and think it's more suited to our weather than warmer climates. When it's really hot, windows up and aircon keeping inside chilled is best. An open sunroof is nice for fresh air, but not with the sun burning your bonce.
We has a pre-reg G7 Match Edition that had a sunroof. I wouldn't have gone out and bought one, but as it had it, it was a nice bonus. It was pure white and looked good with the black contrast. I had the rear of the roof wrapped as well as gloss black mirror covers to carry on the theme.
As for cleaning the mesh diffuser, Henry made short work of getting the dead flies out.
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My previous Merc had a Pan roof and must say, I used it a lot over the 2 years, especially on tilt. It even had a rain sensor so would close when parked if it started raining. I'd agree with Dubber, a sunroof suits our climate well and feel nice to have open where a window down is too windy or cold. Most convertible drivers would get more use of out sunroof than an actual folding roof as well.
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I spec'd the pan roof and have not regretted it one bit. Not had any issues with it at all & it's now 5 years old. I use it at any opportunity, good to get fresh air breezing in without the windows down, which can be noisy too.
I'd go for solid white - saves the £££'s and much easier to repair.
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Don't have the Onyx, go with solid.
If I was ordering now I'd spec Art Velours interior too - much nicer for not much extra (still change from having solid white vs Onyx!)
19's.... I'd give them a miss too. As much as I hate the Parkers, I'd either stick with them or go with the dark Sevilles... but those are marmite. The 19's are prone to buckling, heavier and tyres cost a shed load more.
If you ditch the 19's then ditch the DCC too.
Sunroof.... I was glad when my cars stopped coming with them. If you've never had a car with automatic climate control you might think you need a sunroof.... trust me, you don't.
But there are more opinions on options than options themselves :D
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Hi all
I’m a newbie hope I’m not high jacking post.
But after reading many posts here I have contacted my dealer today to change my gti opinions.
Order placed on the 07/03/19 and had a build date off week 14 first week in april, my original order was a solid white 5 door manual with 19 saniago,art velours,sun roof,rear tinted windows and voice activation.
I have now contacted my dealer and told I’m I want to drop the voice activation and add dcc, dynaudio and climate windscreen.
Just hope he will be ok about but only order 13 days ago, do you think the original order will be cancelled and I will be back to square one?
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It’ll be fine. I changed my order 5 times in the first week! However, once the order is locked in it cannot be changed without cancelling and starting again (any maybe losing a deposit). I think mine was locked after day 9.
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Hi all
I’m a newbie hope I’m not high jacking post.
But after reading many posts here I have contacted my dealer today to change my gti opinions.
Order placed on the 07/03/19 and had a build date off week 14 first week in april, my original order was a solid white 5 door manual with 19 saniago,art velours,sun roof,rear tinted windows and voice activation.
I have now contacted my dealer and told I’m I want to drop the voice activation and add dcc, dynaudio and climate windscreen.
Just hope he will be ok about but only order 13 days ago, do you think the original order will be cancelled and I will be back to square one?
Congratulations (even though we're not allowed to congratulate people on this forum :rolleyes: ), sounds like a great spec, you won't be disappointed. :cool:
I was going to say that you could probably ditch the climate screen, then I saw where you are, and yes I agree that would be a must have for you! Don't fancy saving £400 on the wheels and getting the Brescias rather than the Santiagos? :smiley:
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Thanks
Just waiting to hear back from the dealer as I order through drive a deal and he is in the south of England emailed him so just waiting and thanks as I’m now going to do the Brescia wheels as well. :grin: :grin:
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You should be alright, I just had to reorder after wanting to add dynaudio to mine. Annoyingly I was a month in, on a predicted 12wk lead time, now been told 22wks :( gutted, but just had to have dynaudio after hearing it in action 😫 good things come to those that wait... well that's what I'm telling myself!
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I didn’t spec my MY19 as it was at the dealers as a Stock car and I had a choice of about 3-4 GTI PPs. But some thoughts.
Panoramic Roof - I had a demo on extended test which had a Pano Roof in Solid White - whilst it was a nice addition when in the car- and made the cabin lighter for me it broke up the lines of the car on a light coloured car. I’d either choose a darker colour or delete the Pano roof.
Art Velour- I thought the only choice on a GTI would be a Tartan interior but having seen several with Art Velour it became a must have and a mo th in I’m really pleased with it and it receives a lot of complements.
Bresicas- Car came with them and I really like them love the look on the GTI and the way they echo the Ps on earlier Pirelli Alloys. I’ve found the ride to be fine for the mixture of A and B roads I use the Golf for. I’ve so far found the grip levels of the P Zeros to be fine in some pretty wet motorways and muddy B roads( not really been out in any real snow). I’m not a fan of the std 18” wheels but will probably get some 18” OZ wheels for some winter tyres for next winter.
Climate Screen- living in the outskirts of the Highlands a must for us and it’s been excellent on the days we’ve needed it.
Other than that I found the basic spec to be excellent in the 7.5 - the Camera now being standard is a nice bonus as is the fact that CarPlay is Std as it’s a £200 pound option on a JLR product.
But choose what suits you best -
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Its all personal choice, but just to throw my personal experience into the pot...
I've has a 2016 GTI on a lease for the last 2 years. I went for just basic spec (as it was a lease) and didn't regret it at all.
I went from an Audi A5 coupe with 19" wheels and 18 speaker B&O sound system to a standard golf and was quite happy with the sound system. (If you want to throw £850 at the extra sound system, I'm sure its great - but I went from the premium Audi system to the standard golf system and I've never regretted it. - But then I'm 58 and don't play it with the bass racked up to 100db)
Also, I went for standard 18" wheels and no dynamic chassis - and never regretted that either. Much more compliant than my Audi. Again - we're all different, but even over crashy local potholed roads, I find the standard suspension, on 18" wheels is fine for me (and for my wife...)...
I was so happy with those choices that I didn't change them when I ordered my new 2019 GTI PP.
The one option I did gamble on for my new GTI PP was the Art Velours interior.
The tartan interior is fine but it was the only thing that I used to look at in my old GTI and think could be improved.
I didn't want full leather - both for the cost, but also because my wife's biggest grumble about my A5 was that when I was driving it "spiritedly" she kept sliding from side to side in the leather passenger seat.
She was so much happier with the cloth seats in the GTI because she wasn't sliding from side to side as I was cornering...
The choice was a gamble because the first time I saw the Art Velours interior was when I collected my new 2019 car - but I think its fantastic.
The "leather" inserts in the doors and on the door arm rests, with contrasting red stitching takes the interior up a level from my previous cloth GTI; and the "pseudo-alcantara" seat faces are just lovely - both to look at and to touch.
After a fortnight with my new GTI PP, I've got no "spec regrets" - but, as everyone says - we're all different, with different budgets and there are no right or wrong answers...
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Well it looks like I’m going with original order as it’s to late to change and that’s from my dealer and from vw. due for building the next two weeks so no amendments allowed. Only ordered 13 days ago.
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trueblue_ips, as you can see, there are so many views as many people out there. And it is OK, as these things are highly personal.
So here are my comments, not so much telling you what you should do, but as an insight into my reasoning/thinking:
90% rear tints - For the overall price, makes good sense. Not only for privacy, hiding items on the back seat, but during the summer, you will be glad you specified them, as the car will be cooler and easier to cool down. No brainer for me. Besides, it gives it a sportier look.
Sunroof - quite expensive when compared to DCC, Lane assist or Dynaudio. I had one on my previous Skoda and gave me trouble... So I used that money for Oryx on my Golf.
Climate windscreen - a must in my opinion. Once you tried it during the winter months, you will never want to go back. It is a safety thing for me. I must keep my car in the driveway and in the humid cold climate (even in the South), it works its magic within 2 minutes.
DCC - Another must for me (especially for the price vs. overall price of the car). [One of the main reasons I went for a new car was that it was almost impossible to find a demonstrator car with DCC & Climate windscreen and Lane assist.] Almost any review of GTI in car magazines says you should specify it. I had Jetta SE (57 reg) and was very pleased with the dampers; exchanged it for Jetta Sport (12 reg) and it was too harsh. The capability of changing your dampers from Comfort ride when you need it for a long motorway journey and to Sports when you are in a mood for sporty driving is priceless for me... And let me assure you, you can feel the difference.
19" Brescia & Oryx white - Depends on how you are wired. Some people want to stand out from the crowd, others like to fit in. Parker wheels seem too boring to many people. Analogically there are plenty of Pure white(s) around. But make sure you see Oryx white first so that it is what you want. It gives the car a premium look. (But if you save money on this and put it into Dynaudio or something more useful, that's understandable. VW really makes you pay crazy for this luxury.
Hope my two cents of perspective are helpful to you.
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Thanks everyone for your opinions and experiences. Really helpful. I think I need to see a dealer now and a few cars in the flesh hopefully with some of the options fitted.
I think I might ditch the Brescias to save a bit but still keep the DCC. Appreciate the ride should be fine without but if DCC in comfort makes the car a bit more refined (does it?) that's quite important to me.
I was happy with tartan so hadn't bothered to consider the interior. id like to see a car with the Art Velours now though. Does the trim like the front and rear armrests have the leather effect with this? All Leather too expensive for me.
Totally understand the appeal of the Dynaudio but I'm not into music enough to justify it.
Sunroof is hard to decide as it seems to divide opinion more than the other options I had but leaning towards not specing it. That pays for the Art Velours interior instead.
So many decisions :laugh:
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PS, also thinking about the Idium grey over the White.
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Reading your original post, you say you are going to PCP it. Optional extras make little or no difference to the cars GFV, meaning that you'll pay for them in full over the term of the deal. So take the cost of an option like a sunroof for example, divide the price by the amount of months, add the interest on, then decide if you want to pay that much a month to rent it. The same goes for paint, wheels, seats, the lot.
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Thanks everyone for your opinions and experiences. Really helpful. I think I need to see a dealer now and a few cars in the flesh hopefully with some of the options fitted.
I think I might ditch the Brescias to save a bit but still keep the DCC. Appreciate the ride should be fine without but if DCC in comfort makes the car a bit more refined (does it?) that's quite important to me.
I was happy with tartan so hadn't bothered to consider the interior. id like to see a car with the Art Velours now though. Does the trim like the front and rear armrests have the leather effect with this? All Leather too expensive for me.
Yes: Art Velours gets you the same armrest (front and back), all headrests and the door cards finished in the same (p)leather material as if you'd gone for full leather interior. Seat centres are in a pseudo Alcantara effect material. Nice combo. The pleather is very easy to keep clean compared to cloth. So far, the seat centres in mine are spotless too after 15k.
I'm only on 18s, but if I'd had the chance I would have gone for DCC (my car was already built and in dealers). Lots of poor roads around here, and ocasionally, I find it a tad on the hard side on those roads / bumps; also what some folk don't realise is that even in 'Normal' setting the DCC is actually adjusting itself via a few sensors. I wouldn't rule one out without it, but if you have the coin / opportunity I'd go for it. Not something that can be retro-fitted either really.
Go for climate screen: it's very handy to have, and good value for an option.
I don't have the roof. Would be nice I guess, but I don't find the interior too dark without it (I was thinking that the dark headlining may be a bit sombre).
19s - up to you of course. They fill the arches nicely, but I wanted 18s due my roads. I've since put 18s black prets on - just cos I luv em!
Enjoy ordering your car - you'll love it no matter what spec you go for. GTI PP really is a fantastic car.
Totally understand the appeal of the Dynaudio but I'm not into music enough to justify it.
Sunroof is hard to decide as it seems to divide opinion more than the other options I had but leaning towards not specing it. That pays for the Art Velours interior instead.
So many decisions :laugh:
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oops - somehow I added text / quoted into someone elses reply......sorry all. Gettin old and/or it's pre-coffee effect!
my bit was:
Yes: Art Velours gets you the same armrest (front and back), all headrests and the door cards finished in the same (p)leather material as if you'd gone for full leather interior. Seat centres are in a pseudo Alcantara effect material. Nice combo. The pleather is very easy to keep clean compared to cloth. So far, the seat centres in mine are spotless too after 15k.
I'm only on 18s, but if I'd had the chance I would have gone for DCC (my car was already built and in dealers). Lots of poor roads around here, and ocasionally, I find it a tad on the hard side on those roads / bumps; also what some folk don't realise is that even in 'Normal' setting the DCC is actually adjusting itself via a few sensors. I wouldn't rule one out without it, but if you have the coin / opportunity I'd go for it. Not something that can be retro-fitted either really.
Go for climate screen: it's very handy to have, and good value for an option.
I don't have the roof. Would be nice I guess, but I don't find the interior too dark without it (I was thinking that the dark headlining may be a bit sombre).
19s - up to you of course. They fill the arches nicely, but I wanted 18s due my roads. I've since put 18s black prets on - just cos I luv em!
Enjoy ordering your car - you'll love it no matter what spec you go for. GTI PP really is a fantastic car.
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Just to add my experience with DCC on my 18 month old PP dsg on 19" wheels.
I didn't drive either a DCC equipped or standard GTi before I ordered, but was convinced I needed DCC.
Now, for virtually all of the past 18 months of ownership I have had the dampers set to comfort, but for the last three weeks, out of curiosity, I have had the sport profile set continually.
And it's been a bit of an eye opener: although the suspension is firmer, it is not in any way harsh or 'nobbily', it just has a level of underlying compliance that gives it a feeling of refinement that's far removed from, say, an older S-Line A3 / A4. I'm genuinely quite surprised as I can live with it in everyday use and am beginning to worry that if I switch back to comfort it'll feel like a bit of a barge!
Maybe someone with more experience could advise as to which setting the standard dampers are closest to, e.g. is it sport or somewhere between normal and sport?
But as of now, I might be tempted to skip DCC and save the cash, though I reckon it is quite a desirable extra come resale time.
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Thanks everyone for your opinions and experiences. Really helpful. I think I need to see a dealer now and a few cars in the flesh hopefully with some of the options fitted.
I think I might ditch the Brescias to save a bit but still keep the DCC. Appreciate the ride should be fine without but if DCC in comfort makes the car a bit more refined (does it?) that's quite important to me.
I was happy with tartan so hadn't bothered to consider the interior. id like to see a car with the Art Velours now though. Does the trim like the front and rear armrests have the leather effect with this? All Leather too expensive for me.
Totally understand the appeal of the Dynaudio but I'm not into music enough to justify it.
Sunroof is hard to decide as it seems to divide opinion more than the other options I had but leaning towards not specing it. That pays for the Art Velours interior instead.
So many decisions :laugh:
One thing I will say is that there are no wrong choices - the car without ANY options is simply sublime. Anything you spend the money on you really wouldn't miss much IMHO.
I'm definitely ticking Art Velours next time though - it wasn' available when I ordered both my Mk7 and the Mk7.5 (I think, or I just didn't understand what it was!). I don't like all leather, but Art Velours is more like the R seats - really classy. And not expensive either!
DCC - my Mk7 had DCC, my Mk7.5 does not. Ok, I had 18's on both, but I've not missed DCC one bit. Sure, DCC in comfort mode is slightly more relaxed, but its not like the standard suspension is as hard as the standard "sport package" suspension on any other car I've had in the last 30 years. Seriously, the Golf is a pretty sporty package, but its not a head banger - and I do 20k+ miles a year, I'm always in the car, if it was terrible you'd hear me complain.
DCC sounds like an essential item, but in 3 years I must have pushed the button to change it to sport or comfort maybe 10 times? In normally rolled on "normal" which feels no different to non-DCC... and I did that for just under 70k miles...
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I have Brescias on mine and l think they really enhance the car. I also have Art Velours(silly name), which again l think is stunning, and l.ve had Jacara as well. I.ve a manual , which is what l wanted.Car was built when l ordered it, so could.nt change anything obviously. But it had the 3 things l really wanted .Colour, wheels and interior. But saying that l.ve just sold my S4 Saloon, which had sunroof, voice control and automatic, which l find l miss. Getting voice installed next month. For all round use the GTI PP isa fantastic car. Seems to get faster as the miles go on, but that's prob just me.
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Thanks for all the replies. I'm pretty much settled now on Art Velours interior, Climate Windscreen and DCC.
Or at least I was. The TCR has thrown a spanner in the works!!
I can't spec the Art Velours interior on the TCR but its interior looks great to me and I would be happy with it as it comes. With the other two options spec'd on the TCR it comes out at about £1500 more expensive than the GTI PP.
The visual tweaks, lighter wheels, more power make the TCR very appealing for an extra £1500. It's a small thing but the TCR puddle lights also appeal.
My only concern is ride quality. Ride comfort is very important to me hence me speccing DCC on 18" wheels and all of the reviews say the TCR has a firmer ride. Were they testing it on 19" wheels though?
Maybe I'll try to test drive both if I can find a dealer with a TCR.
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PS yes, it's a small thing but I also prefer black wing mirrors on a white car which the TCR has. You can no longer spec these on the GTI PP.
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Could always buy replacements or get them wrapped :whistle:
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Decisions, decisions. Just read two reviews for the TCR:
auto express: "the suspension seems keener on pummeling the road and rebounding off it than engaging with it". Doesn't say whether DCC equipped though.
whatcar (DCC stated as fitted) : "In Comfort mode the suspension dissolves the extremes of potholes and motorway pimples alike. For cross-country comfort, it’s far nearer to the cushy Type R than the ever-agitated Renault Megane RS."
Are they driving the same car?
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If you look hard enough on the interweb, you can always find a review/opinion on something that tells you 'what you want to hear' - and also one that you don't want to hear. Car ride quality is definitely one of those and is very subjective.
I've driven a non DCC 7.5 GTI on 18" wheels and it was fine - the tartan seats very comfortable too. Am I'm extremely fussy about ride comfort. I'm currently driving a Fiesta ST-line and I find it comfortable for me but Whatcar says it is harsh.
Bottom line is you have to try for yourself. I've had test drives in a few GTI/GTDs on different size wheels and none are anywhere near as harsh as an A3 S line or 1 Series M Sport on standard wheels.
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Oh dear! A TCR shaped spanner in the works.
I wonder if the TCR has the same springs as a Clubsport as the CS is definitely choppier than a regular GTI or R (I’ve owned examples of all three). The CS isn’t uncomfortable though, you’re just very aware of the road surface.
At the end of the day harsher springs are just that, no amount of softer damping will disguise it. In fact you need slightly firmer damping to control the undulations more, but it’s always going to be choppy.
My preference is always slightly softer springs and firm dampers which Peugeot used to be very good at.
Oh, FWIW, if it were my money I’d get a standard GTI with maybe Brescias (or just buy spacers or aftermarket 18’s) and climate screen (if the car was kept outside) with no other extras. The things are pretty loaded with extras now anyway and at the end of the model cycle so the less spent on extras is less depreciation.
Then buy black mirror covers.
Or a standard TCR.
Or an R for a few extra quid which is a much better all round car.
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Oh dear! A TCR shaped spanner in the works.
I wonder if the TCR has the same springs as a Clubsport as the CS is definitely choppier than a regular GTI or R (I’ve owned examples of all three). The CS isn’t uncomfortable though, you’re just very aware of the road surface.
At the end of the day harsher springs are just that, no amount of softer damping will disguise it. In fact you need slightly firmer damping to control the undulations more, but it’s always going to be choppy.
My preference is always slightly softer springs and firm dampers which Peugeot used to be very good at.
Oh, FWIW, if it were my money I’d get a standard GTI with maybe Brescias (or just buy spacers or aftermarket 18’s) and climate screen (if the car was kept outside) with no other extras. The things are pretty loaded with extras now anyway and at the end of the model cycle so the less spent on extras is less depreciation.
Then buy black mirror covers.
Or a standard TCR.
Or an R for a few extra quid which is a much better all round car.
I don't think as it has the same suspension as the CS. Same as the GTI PP I think but 5mm shorter springs?
I may end up in a Mk8 R one day :smiley:
I'm coming from a 10+ sec 0-60 car so the GTI PP will still seem extremely quick to me and a big step up in performance. Also it leaves me room to move up again in the performance stakes if I feel the need with my next car.
I know the R is very highly rated but for me the GTI PP and TCR are light years ahead of the R in terms of styling and visual appeal. The R is just too much like a normal Golf for my taste.
It's actually the subtle styling tweaks on the TCR that appeal more than the extra performance.
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It’s been shared already but have a watch of the Autogefuhl review. What ever the suspension change is (5mm lower), it definitely sounds like it changes the car and makes it more track focused. Might be a big consideration if you are buying for looks rather than the essence of a supposed track orientated GTI.
https://youtu.be/HgO9gTVecKw