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Re: Engine oil question.
« Reply #10 on: 31 October 2016, 12:01 »
Fully synthetic depends on definition, in the UK a HC (hydro cracked base oil) can be called fully synthetic. In Germany it needs to be at least 80% synthetically created oil. Difference between mineral base oil, hydro crack and fully synthetic has to do with which molecule chains make up the oil.
Mineral oil is a mix of whatever happens to come out of fractioned distillation, hydro cracked you treat the mineral stuff to break up very long chains, so molecules that make up the oil are more similar but it's still a mix... synthetic base oils are dismantled on molecular level and reassembled, i.e. giving the most uniform base oil with the desired hydrocarbon chain length. The more you treat the base oil the more expensive it gets....

Most oils sold as fully synthetic in the UK are only HC, some do have varying lots of synthetic oil in them.

In a PD diesel you need an oil with EP (extreme pressure) additives due to the way the injection system works (all driven by cams). Which only 505.01 and 507.00 has. You will find a lot of oils that sound similar to the ones with said specs because they use the same or similar base oil but have varying additive packages (which most oil companies buy in ready formulated from specialist companies, e.g. Infineum).

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Re: Engine oil question.
« Reply #11 on: 31 October 2016, 12:43 »
I don't find it boring at all...if I don't know the answer or solution to something, I ask questions and learn from the answers. I find it all very interesting.

Thanks to all who replied.

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Re: Engine oil question.
« Reply #12 on: 31 October 2016, 12:57 »
Pd engine oil says pd on it in the uk. 5/30 pd goes in it

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Re: Engine oil question.
« Reply #13 on: 31 October 2016, 15:51 »
Thanks. I'll be back at the shop tomorrow for a closer look and testing out my translational skills...retailers here have a nasty habit of covering up technical info on containers with their own version, printed in the cyrillic style.

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Re: Engine oil question.
« Reply #14 on: 31 October 2016, 19:09 »
If it doesnt say pd on the tub its not got the stuff in it to prevent cam wear.
Im assuming tou have a pd of course

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Re: Engine oil question.
« Reply #15 on: 31 October 2016, 19:20 »
That's the first thing I'll be looking for tomorrow....

...on the other side of the coin, if I used the PD specific oil in my 1.9 TDI and it's not a PD, what would be the consequences?
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Re: Engine oil question.
« Reply #16 on: 31 October 2016, 19:46 »
Nothing. Its just to help prevent cam wear which there a little pro e to do

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Re: Engine oil question.
« Reply #17 on: 01 November 2016, 06:28 »
Cheers.

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Re: Engine oil question.
« Reply #18 on: 01 November 2016, 21:05 »
Just to clarify things...I spent a long time in the retail shop today, carefully reading every label on every container...not one of them mentioned PD engines. Specs on the labels listed things like VW 504, 505, 507, 505.1.

I'm going to go with the Castrol Edge, Turbo Diesel, Titanium 5w40 (505.01) and wait for the explosion.

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Re: Engine oil question.
« Reply #19 on: 02 November 2016, 17:48 »
The above oil arriving Friday morning...roughly 34 quid for 5 litres, delivered to my door from  100 miles away...is that a reasonable price?
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