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Re: 128ti undercuts GTI
« Reply #230 on: 08 January 2021, 12:44 »
Thats rights its a TQ gearbox - the b8 S4's had 's-tronic' or DCT type gearboxes but on the b9 platform they changed to a TQ gearbox made by ZF and physically is the same as found in many BMW's.  You might be right that the 'proper' M cars use a DCT box.
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Re: 128ti undercuts GTI
« Reply #231 on: 16 January 2021, 10:28 »
It's incredible how prices differ in the UK an Italy.

I got quotes for the GTI and the 128ti and, after discounts, there's a 4000€ difference in favour of the GTI.
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Re: 128ti undercuts GTI
« Reply #232 on: 16 January 2021, 10:34 »
Quote from: Powerman80 on 16 January 2021, 10:28
It's incredible how prices differ in the UK an Italy.

I got quotes for the GTI and the 128ti and, after discounts, there's a 4000€ difference in favour of the GTI.

How strange.

I wonder if the Italian spec for a GTI doesn't include a lot of the things we get in the UK?

This is true in Germany for sure.

UK spec performance golfs are very heavily loaded with equipment. Its not "free" but it is included in the base price.

On the BMW, they have a different set of options included vs the golf.

Both can of course be order with pretty much the same gear, it just where you start from on each.
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Re: 128ti undercuts GTI
« Reply #233 on: 16 January 2021, 10:50 »
Quote from: fredgroves on 16 January 2021, 10:34
Quote from: Powerman80 on 16 January 2021, 10:28
It's incredible how prices differ in the UK an Italy.

I got quotes for the GTI and the 128ti and, after discounts, there's a 4000€ difference in favour of the GTI.

How strange.

I wonder if the Italian spec for a GTI doesn't include a lot of the things we get in the UK?

This is true in Germany for sure.

UK spec performance golfs are very heavily loaded with equipment. Its not "free" but it is included in the base price.

On the BMW, they have a different set of options included vs the golf.

Both can of course be order with pretty much the same gear, it just where you start from on each.

I tried to spec them in the same way, and I reckon that with more dealing the difference could be reduced. About 2500 maybe.

BMW has no ADAS (lane assist, emergency brake, side assist and ACC), no automatic clima. It also have tiny bit more tax (250€ per year which over 5 years it's still something)

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Re: 128ti undercuts GTI
« Reply #234 on: 16 January 2021, 11:24 »
You can't order those options on the BMW at all?

Definitely available here...
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Re: 128ti undercuts GTI
« Reply #235 on: 16 January 2021, 11:41 »
Quote from: fredgroves on 16 January 2021, 11:24
You can't order those options on the BMW at all?

Definitely available here...

You can order, but are standard on the GTI
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Re: 128ti undercuts GTI
« Reply #236 on: 16 January 2021, 11:47 »
How strange, i thought those systems were mandatory from 2021 in all cars in the EU. (including the UK because it was a regulation adopted before brexit).

If you buy a daccia you get them too...
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Re: 128ti undercuts GTI
« Reply #237 on: 16 January 2021, 11:49 »
Quote from: fredgroves on 16 January 2021, 11:47
How strange, i thought those systems were mandatory from 2021 in all cars in the EU. (including the UK because it was a regulation adopted before brexit).

If you buy a daccia you get them too...

I thought so, maybe it's coming in the near future. No BMW/Minis have adaptive, auto brake and lane assist standard. Mini have no lane assist at all even as an option. It's been heavily criticized by media (including me lol)


EDIT: I think they're mandatory from november 2021
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Re: 128ti undercuts GTI
« Reply #238 on: 18 January 2021, 20:33 »
This’ll be interesting.

https://youtu.be/pO74cJ_pFfY
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Re: 128ti undercuts GTI
« Reply #239 on: 18 January 2021, 21:17 »
I'm not at all surprised, as I've said in a few other posts the 128ti is an absolute riot to drive. 
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