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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Mk2_tel on 19 May 2010, 18:37
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all i hear is bad things about them..... yet i really want one lol
whats the running costs of these bad boys
also if i was to get get chipped via jabba revo anyone what gains an cost am i looking at cheers
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Bad? The only thing is the fuel consumption but you would expect that from a 3.2 V6 :smiley:
Not much gain from a remap about 15 bhp IIRC
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all i hear is bad things about them..... yet i really want one lol
whats the running costs of these bad boys
also if i was to get get chipped via jabba revo anyone what gains an cost am i looking at cheers
what sort of things you been hearing??
as rich said, costs a bit at the pumps..then thats to be expected
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all i hear is bad things about them..... yet i really want one lol
whats the running costs of these bad boys
also if i was to get get chipped via jabba revo anyone what gains an cost am i looking at cheers
what sort of things you been hearing??
as rich said, costs a bit at the pumps..then thats to be expected
and there not really quick in standard form costs a fortune to tune up for example a chip, carbonio air filter milltek zorst only released 30bhp not enough for the money i was spending solution a 1.8t'd golf though it is a pretty looking mk4 the r32 i give it that
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I would love a R32, awesome car.
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I would love a R32, awesome car.
would help if you drove one of the same family for a start :rolleyes: :evil:
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I would love a R32, awesome car.
would help if you drove one of the same family for a start :rolleyes: :evil:
:lipsrsealed: happy with what I have at the moment, for the miles I do it will be fine.
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I would love a R32, awesome car.
would help if you drove one of the same family for a start :rolleyes: :evil:
:lipsrsealed: happy with what I have at the moment, for the miles I do it will be fine.
:lipsrsealed:for what i do i need an oil burner :lipsrsealed:
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i have to say they dont really impress me i think they are way over priced and way over rated
1.8t all the way :)
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Thing with the R32 vs the 20vT is the simple fact the R32 will always muller the 1.8T, the only way your going to get a 1.8T faster round the track is to spend fortunes! and for the money you mais well have the R32 + it comes with good looks and great interior so you dont need to fork out on the little things, e.g. replacing the wood look interior, installing bora vents, pedals.....
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bad things? from whom? only from 1.8t owners i presume
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Thing with the R32 vs the 20vT is the simple fact the R32 will always muller the 1.8T, the only way your going to get a 1.8T faster round the track is to spend fortunes!
isn't a remapped 20v about the same power as a standard R32? R32 must weigh a lot more as well.
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Thing with the R32 vs the 20vT is the simple fact the R32 will always muller the 1.8T, the only way your going to get a 1.8T faster round the track is to spend fortunes!
isn't a remapped 20v about the same power as a standard R32? R32 must weigh a lot more as well.
i seriously doubt just a remap would bring a 1.8t even close to 240/250bhp
KO4 or similar is required
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Thing with the R32 vs the 20vT is the simple fact the R32 will always muller the 1.8T, the only way your going to get a 1.8T faster round the track is to spend fortunes!
isn't a remapped 20v about the same power as a standard R32? R32 must weigh a lot more as well.
Volkswagen Golf Hatchback (97-04) 1.8 T GTI 3d
Weight 1203 kg
Volkswagen Golf Hatchback (97-04) 3.2 V6 R32 3d
Weight 1512 kg
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It's a badass car . Love the look love the sound.
Here video on youtube a tuned 550 BHP R32 with Twin turbo smokes a Z4 :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjgaxdl-z-g
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Here video on youtube a tuned 550 BHP R32 with Twin turbo smokes a Z4 :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjgaxdl-z-g
probably the most re-posted video clip in VW history.
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Here video on youtube a tuned 550 BHP R32 with Twin turbo smokes a Z4 :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjgaxdl-z-g
probably the most re-posted video clip in VW history.
sorry didnt know that :rolleyes: :tongue:
but i love the sound though
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isn't a remapped 20v about the same power as a standard R32? R32 must weigh a lot more as well.
No, A remaped 1.8T will sit around 190 - 210 depending on turbo type and general health of the engine.
To get up to the 250+ mark your going to need to start looking at a KO4 turbo upgrade and thats when your wallet really starts to get light.
As for "bad" things about a MK4 R32 . . . what have you heard? I've not heard a bad thing about them other than fuel consumption and what the hell do you expect from a 3.2 V6 . . ?
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I'll admit to no 20v experience, but the 225bhp lump remapped must be up there power wise...can't be that expensive/difficult to swap the 225 bits over can it?
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Thing with the R32 vs the 20vT is the simple fact the R32 will always muller the 1.8T, the only way your going to get a 1.8T faster round the track is to spend fortunes!
isn't a remapped 20v about the same power as a standard R32? R32 must weigh a lot more as well.
Volkswagen Golf Hatchback (97-04) 1.8 T GTI 3d
Weight 1203 kg
Volkswagen Golf Hatchback (97-04) 3.2 V6 R32 3d
Weight 1512 kg
Volkswagen Golf Hatchback (97-04) 3.2 V6 R32 3d
Weight 1477 kg
Volkswagen Golf Hatchback (97-04) 3.2 V6 R32 5d
Weight 1512 kg
My Volkswagen Golf Hatchback (97-04) 3.2 V6 R32 5d
Weight 1373 kg
Hoping to lose another 80 kg by the end of this year too
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I'll admit to no 20v experience, but the 225bhp lump remapped must be up there power wise...can't be that expensive/difficult to swap the 225 bits over can it?
The 225 lump is diffrent to that of what you get in a MK4 GTI as its already got the KO4 turbo and manifold etc in it ( TT, S3 and Cupra). A remaped 225 is a diffrent kettle of fish.
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This surprises me :undecided:
R32 -
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 237
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1512
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 159.26
0 - 60 (Secs) : 6.19
0 - 100 (Secs) : 17.47
60 - 100 (Secs) : 11.28
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.96
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 92.51
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.56
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) :
1.8T Ko3s remapped to 220 -
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 220
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1203
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 185.81
0 - 60 (Secs) : 6.00
0 - 100 (Secs) : 14.84
60 - 100 (Secs) : 8.84
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.38
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 98.43
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.18
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 100.18
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This surprises me :undecided:
R32 -
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 237
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1512
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 159.26
0 - 60 (Secs) : 6.19
0 - 100 (Secs) : 17.47
60 - 100 (Secs) : 11.28
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.96
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 92.51
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.56
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) :
1.8T Ko3s remapped to 220 -
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 220
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1203
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 185.81
0 - 60 (Secs) : 6.00
0 - 100 (Secs) : 14.84
60 - 100 (Secs) : 8.84
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.38
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 98.43
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.18
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 100.18
if the ecu is upto date with 6463 its closer to 247
I am liking this
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 265
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1373
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 196.11
0 - 60 (Secs) : 5.09
0 - 100 (Secs) : 13.78
60 - 100 (Secs) : 8.69
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 13.82
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 100.15
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 13.42
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 103.32
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This surprises me :undecided:
what does? The fact that the 20v is faster?
I'm not surprised as my 175bhp/150lbs 2.0 16v mk2 was faster than a 240bhp rallye. Weight counts for a lot.
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This surprises me :undecided:
what does? The fact that the 20v is faster?
I'm not surprised as my 175bhp/150lbs 2.0 16v mk2 was faster than a 240bhp rallye. Weight counts for a lot.
Yea. More so the weight of the R32 but suppose it does have to lug that 4wd and 2 extra cylinders.
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I've had my R32 for 20 months now and absolutely love it, fair enough they are pricey to buy and at the pumps but i think they are worth it obviously or i wouldnt have bought one :tongue:
Over the last 2000 miles my average fuel consumption has been 26 mpg, thats a mixture of town motorway and weekend thrash, tbh i have looked into changing for a mk5 gti for the same money as mines worth mainly due to the fuel but when i worked it out i would save about £7 a week so not really worth it to me.
It's not all about power figures anyway it's down to how it drives and although the R32 is a heavy car it can still shift and the power is instant and totally smooth, i went round a roundabout the other day whilst being lazy and left it in 6th at 25mph and it still pulled smoothly out the other side.
I had wnted one for a long time before a bought mine and i will never regret it one bit it's an awesome car and if i were to think about changing now it would more than likely be a mk5 R32 that replaced it.
These are just my views from a unbiased R32 owner haha :grin:
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This surprises me :undecided:
R32 -
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 237
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1512
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 159.26
0 - 60 (Secs) : 6.19
0 - 100 (Secs) : 17.47
60 - 100 (Secs) : 11.28
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.96
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 92.51
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.56
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) :
1.8T Ko3s remapped to 220 -
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 220
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1203
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 185.81
0 - 60 (Secs) : 6.00
0 - 100 (Secs) : 14.84
60 - 100 (Secs) : 8.84
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.38
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 98.43
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.18
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 100.18
if the ecu is upto date with 6463 its closer to 247
I am liking this
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 265
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1373
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 196.11
0 - 60 (Secs) : 5.09
0 - 100 (Secs) : 13.78
60 - 100 (Secs) : 8.69
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 13.82
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 100.15
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 13.42
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 103.32
Where are these figures from? Using what map/mods etc?
Im interested as my car is supposed to be 230bhp on the rollers so kind of gives me an idea of what 1/4 mile run it should do.
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i'd take all the figures with a pinch of salt, well quite a big pinch actually
reason being stock r32 did 13.9 1/4
albeit with weight reduction
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Where are these figures from? Using what map/mods etc?
Im interested as my car is supposed to be 230bhp on the rollers so kind of gives me an idea of what 1/4 mile run it should do.
http://www.letstorquebhp.com/calculator.asp
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Hehe, I love these threads.......................
My old 227 bhp/256 lb ft 1.8 T outran a standard R32 on a DC (was a dry road though, obviously).
I would still have the DBP R32 over my old GTI, anyday. The sound......................... The looks............................ The feel-good-factor/kudos etc.
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I nearly traded in my PD 150 for an R32 a couple years ago, i do like but doing a 150 miles a week getting to work and back in an R32 would just not be affordable lol
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you're right, 30 miles a day would be a killer :huh:
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you're right, 30 miles a day would be a killer :huh:
that would cost you at least a fiver a day
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I do 180-200 a week in mine and i just about get away with £40 a week for fuel
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I have no dout a 1.8T could keep up with a R32 in a straight line but as soon as there both on a track or round a few corners the combination of a 3.2L V6 and 4wd would definitely leave a fwd 1.8T anyday :tongue:
But saying this i drive a 2.slow and i'm happy with my 115bhp so what do i know! :grin:
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I have no dout a 1.8T could keep up with a R32 in a straight line but as soon as there both on a track or round a few corners the combination of a 3.2L V6 and 4wd would definitely leave a fwd 1.8T anyday :tongue:
Yeah, but how often are you on a track . . . .
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spot on alan lol
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I have no dout a 1.8T could keep up with a R32 in a straight line but as soon as there both on a track or round a few corners the combination of a 3.2L V6 and 4wd would definitely leave a fwd 1.8T anyday :tongue:
Yeah, but how often are you on a track . . . .
track, country road, same thing really arnt they? :tongue: :rolleyes:
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^^^true, buts whats the chances of a 1.8t and an r32 being on the same bit of road at the exact time and place :grin:
only one way to find out :evil:
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I have no dout a 1.8T could keep up with a R32 in a straight line but as soon as there both on a track or round a few corners the combination of a 3.2L V6 and 4wd would definitely leave a fwd 1.8T anyday :tongue:
But saying this i drive a 2.slow and i'm happy with my 115bhp so what do i know! :grin:
I remember arguing in offtopic section about this, about a 1.8t and a vr6 both running at 260bhp, end result was yeah the r32 gets a better luanch which allows it to just out do the 1.8T on the strip, however on a track the 1.8T is quicker due to the 60-100 times out the bends giving it an edge in lap times by a few seconds.
TBH, R32 is expensive, with all that cash you could go k04 easy on a 1.8T you buy (with money to spare), plus all the mods and remap, not exactly huge power or gains vs weight on r32. Yeah you don't have to deal with lag off the line and a rubbish luanch, but when it's moving give me a 1.8T all the way, unless you have very deep pockets then a twin turbo setup on the r32, which is porn.
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you're right, 30 miles a day would be a killer :huh:
It would be in an R32 compared to my car i only fill up twice a month. nickvw's 180-200 miles for £40 compared to my 180-200 for £15 spread that over a year :grin:
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I do 120 miles a day going to and from work alone. I'd love to have a 30 mile commute.
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I do 120 miles a day going to and from work alone. I'd love to have a 30 mile commute.
That is pretty harsh i hate my commute but you defo win the worst journey to work :shocked:
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I do 120 miles a day going to and from work alone. I'd love to have a 30 mile commute.
Fooking hell ! :shocked:
That impressive.
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it's what you get when you live in amazingstoke and work in London. Get bent over by South West Trains or do 30k miles per year commuting.
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10 minute train journey from East Croydon to London Bridge . . . . . :lipsrsealed:
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Guess I am really lucky living a mile from work then :smiley:
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10 minute train journey from East Croydon to London Bridge . . . . . :lipsrsealed:
I'd rather live in Basingstoke and commute 30k miles per year than ever do anything in Croydon...let alone live there :grin:
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:D :D
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it's what you get when you live in amazingstoke and work in London. Get bent over by South West Trains or do 30k miles per year commuting.
Basingstoke hmm no comment lol i work just outside Basingstoke little place called Ramsdell luckily get to go back to Newbury at the end of the day, well i say Newbury i live in tiny village now bout 3 miles outside Newbury :grin:
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I say Basingstoke...I live about 5 miles out.
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Guess I am really lucky living a mile from work then :smiley:
yes you are you jammy git...