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General => Car audio => Topic started by: linz on 27 February 2008, 14:01
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rite well im a girl on a mission and lets sayim shy to try new things
anyway getting a custom boot build can cost well sh!t loads and to be honest i jus dont have tht kinda money to throw away or even have :laugh:
anyway i was wonderin which of you have built your own and what did you use?? im thinking round so using mdf ect aint gonna help me much lol
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is this the sort of idea?
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/bouf_2001/Golf/Install.jpg)
depends on how much time you want to put into it. and what you want out of it. Gotta get a hinged false floor in there so you can still access your spare wheel.
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spare wheel ha ha dont make me laugh i never carry one of them not gonna be much good running on 19's ;)
no i was thinking more along the lines of
http://jon44w.com/images/bazpics/2005/2005-04-24LoughshoreDiff/loughshoreshow064.jpg
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Sticky and messy - and that's just the fibre glass and resin :grin:
Have you done a boot build before?
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no but i like a challenge :)
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well that's a challenge alright! :grin:
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Chris 'N' Jen - like the boot install!
Where did you get the carpet from? Is it actual golf boot carpet or just new carpet from carpet store?
More questions :laugh:
Did you custom build that from mdf?
I was thinking of putting a sub on one side and an amp on the other, 6x9 in the parcel shelf. Just need time and money ...
LL ;)
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yh should be a fun project though :)
spose i better start taking measurements and draw up some plans :)
then it will be off to buy some materials and then its just me and well luck :)
i have the subs and amp already from my old car so thats a start lol :)
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Chris 'N' Jen - like the boot install!
Where did you get the carpet from? Is it actual golf boot carpet or just new carpet from carpet store?
More questions :laugh:
Did you custom build that from mdf?
I was thinking of putting a sub on one side and an amp on the other, 6x9 in the parcel shelf. Just need time and money ...
LL ;)
i know for a fact that the bloke at stealthbox has a 10" sub box that he made in error as he was supposed to make me a 12" box - might be worth asking if he wants to offload it cheep?
or if you want to try it yourself have a look at this...
http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=76606 (http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=76606)
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that link is awesome, cheers guy. If i can make some sense of it and see if can get the "ingredients" and i will have a go. My m8 will probably give me a hand. If it goes well, he will probs do it to his Leon.
The 10" box sounds interesting. Is it completed finished with carpet? - and also - Is it just a box or a custom made box to fit perfectly in the boot, like the one in the link?
Cheers m8
LL ;)
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that link is awesome, cheers guy. If i can make some sense of it and see if can get the "ingredients" and i will have a go. My m8 will probably give me a hand. If it goes well, he will probs do it to his Leon.
The 10" box sounds interesting. Is it completed finished with carpet? - and also - Is it just a box or a custom made box to fit perfectly in the boot, like the one in the link?
Cheers m8
LL ;)
it's a complete finished stealthbox... they are only made to order and the likelihood of him getting another order in for a mk3 stealthbox for a 10" sub is minimal - so you might have some bargaining power
I have actually seen the box (i was offered it and rejected it as I ordered a 12" box) and it is pretty stealthy... and very well made...
http://www.auto-acoustics.co.uk/index.asp?function=DISPLAYPRODUCT&productid=310 (http://www.auto-acoustics.co.uk/index.asp?function=DISPLAYPRODUCT&productid=310)
not sure what is going on with auto acoustics though as they take ages to make stuff!
so you can weigh up the cost of time and materials vs buying a box from that bloke
auto acoustics also do carpet, finishes and materials etc that you will need for custom builds yourself
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I'm part way there with mine :cool:
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Bootbuild11.jpg)
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i have emailed auto acoustics and asked about the mk3 stealthbox they might have spare.
how much you reckon i could get it for?
Although, it looks good fun doing itself. And when you've finished, you get that sense of achievement; when your m8's ask, you can say - "I did it all by myself" B)
:laugh:
If i can get it cheap, il get it.
Cheers for your help,
LL ;)
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ok read through the guide again, got a few questions:
-Where can you get the ingredients (polyester mix and catalyst/fibreglass wool/polyester stucco) ????
-I dont understand step 11-13. The baffle is the mdf board, right? Does this sit on top of fibreglass structure or just inside?
-Why do you need to measure volume?
Cheers all, I think if I can understand this, I will give it a go.
I'm really tired now, good night!
LL ;)
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Chris 'N' Jen - like the boot install!
Where did you get the carpet from? Is it actual golf boot carpet or just new carpet from carpet store?
More questions :laugh:
Did you custom build that from mdf?
I was thinking of putting a sub on one side and an amp on the other, 6x9 in the parcel shelf. Just need time and money ...
LL ;)
Hi mate
the carpet is halfords acoustic carpet and the build is with mdf so unfortunately it weighs a bit. couldnt b arsed messing with fibre and i just wanted a simple but affective setup that i could bolt things down so theiving barstewards cant nik it.
If your running a sub you dont want 6x9s too as the sub can damage the 6x9's amongst other reasons. if you want sound in the back get some 17cm comps or coax. much better quality. some people advise against though. i however think it sounds better.
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ok read through the guide again, got a few questions:
-Where can you get the ingredients (polyester mix and catalyst/fibreglass wool/polyester stucco) ????
-I dont understand step 11-13. The baffle is the mdf board, right? Does this sit on top of fibreglass structure or just inside?
-Why do you need to measure volume?
Cheers all, I think if I can understand this, I will give it a go.
I'm really tired now, good night!
LL ;)
you need to measure volume in order to have it the right size for the sub you are using if volume isnt right it will sound pap
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Cheers!
I think I will give it a try at least, just need the "ingredients" (B&Q?) and time (which I'm sure I can find!)
LL ;)
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this thread was well hi-jacked by lazy lol. linz if you want something like the pic you posted i'd seriously have a proper think if its worth the hassle. the amount of things that could go wrong doing that unexperienced is long. imo it aint about how many watts you have, but how it sounds when your proper cranking it. i know sooo many people that worried more bout the looks then the quality of sound, at the end of it their systems never rinsed. i had a simple full boot install in my old pug which was built around a pefectly match sub box and it owned my mates systems. 12" type x, done ;)
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The truth is spoken.
Most of those builds are done for looks not sound. :smiley:
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this thread was well hi-jacked by lazy lol. linz if you want something like the pic you posted i'd seriously have a proper think if its worth the hassle. the amount of things that could go wrong doing that unexperienced is long. imo it aint about how many watts you have, but how it sounds when your proper cranking it. i know sooo many people that worried more bout the looks then the quality of sound, at the end of it their systems never rinsed. i had a simple full boot install in my old pug which was built around a pefectly match sub box and it owned my mates systems. 12" type x, done ;)
yh im willing to risk it though i have ideas in my head i think however so i dont have to worry about volumes i am going tomake it around the curent box - as i he 2 x 15" subs and then in the rest i may encorporate other things
thing is if i dont try i wont ever no :)
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go for it.
pics are of course required when you've got it sorted. :wink:
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yh deffo will get pics the whole car willbe going througha complete change
and im hoping to have most of her done by june:) i will of course get pics she wont be looking very standard by the time i have finshed with her but hey shes mine now and i dont plan on her goin n e where :) il be the 3rd owner and tht will be all she will have :P
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fairplay you have got a well good attitude towards cars ;) keep it up and i'm lookin forward to seeing the end result!
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thanks russ
i of course will deffo be sharing my pride and joy i cant wait either :)
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hey linz, if your trying the fibre glass stealthbox, let me know how it sounds. I want to try but have thought it may comprimise the sound quality.
cheers,
LL ;)
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yh course i will hun no wories
im gonna speek to my uncle bout the supplies as he works for a fibre glass company :)
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Good luck linz, can't wait too see the final result :cool:
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Good luck linz, can't wait too see the final result :cool:
thanks yh i will take step by step pics i hope all goes well
i have decided not to start it till after her respray as not much point but this summer i will get in full swing
my uncle works for a fiberglass company so maybe able to get cheaper supplies :P
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Re-spray? What's wrong with black? :)
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Have you got any where with it yet?
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na the cars not even on the road so hasent had her repray an that plus are weather here has been proper crap so i will be attempting this in the summer :)
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Heres all the boot builds I have done, well, I say boot builds - just speakers in the boot.
First install
(http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8027/23sb1.jpg)(http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8746/39mv.jpg)(http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/9434/44jm.jpg)
But I used to carry passengers all the time, so the weight wasn't practical. Although it was only 6" deep, had 1x12" sub and 1x8" sub and two 5" mids. It was covered in OEM carpet and looked pretty ordinary (which is what I wanted). Made out of 12mm MDF. Sold on eBay.
Second install
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1839/28co2.jpg)
It was a 12" sub with a basic 100w amp. Sold to a mate.
Third install
Two 12" subs in a 2 chamber sealed MDF box (homemade again) covered in Vinyl leather.
(http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/1954/cimg13918gu.jpg)
It kinda uses more bootspace, but has better volume for each sub (2.5cuF) and is completely air tight and very sturdy. Plus I tuned it to the frequency I wanted. It doesn't fit in the boot of the Golf, plus having 2 subs is silly - only used them because I got them cheap.
Fourth install
(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9652/minicimg3982yd4.jpg)
Wheel arch build so I could still have bootspace and get to the spare wheel.
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ah see im goin extreme dont want simple plain and borin
im gonna take my spare wheels out n e way and may use it to house my amp :)
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ah see im goin extreme dont want simple plain and borin
im gonna take my spare wheels out n e way and may use it to house my amp :)
aint that illegal?
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ah see im goin extreme dont want simple plain and borin
im gonna take my spare wheels out n e way and may use it to house my amp :)
aint that illegal?
yh i guess but lets be honest my spare is like a 16 so when i have 19's wont be legal n e way
all my previous cars have never had one and i have never had a problem
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It's not illegal to not have a spare. Lots of cars come from the factory without spare wheels...(mine doesn't have a spare)
The law states if you carry a spare it must be roadowrthy/legal in terms of tread and inflation etc, but having one isn't a legal or MOT test requirement.
Linz, carrying a 16" wheel when you're running on 19's isn't a legal requirement either - again, as long as the tyre has legal tread and is correctly inflated it doesn't matter what the rim size is. Again, lots of cars run space saver spares, which are vastly different in size from the normal rims.
If you're going to ditch your spare I suggest you invest in a tyre weld/inflation kit. Ditching the weight and creating space will seem like a great idea until you get a flat on the M1 at 2 in the morning in the pi**ing rain.
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It's not illegal to not have a spare. Lots of cars come from the factory without spare wheels...(mine doesn't have a spare)
The law states if you carry a spare it must be roadowrthy/legal in terms of tread and inflation etc, but having one isn't a legal or MOT test requirement.
Linz, carrying a 16" wheel when you're running on 19's isn't a legal requirement either - again, as long as the tyre has legal tread and is correctly inflated it doesn't matter what the rim size is. Again, lots of cars run space saver spares, which are vastly different in size from the normal rims.
If you're going to ditch your spare I suggest you invest in a tyre weld/inflation kit. Ditching the weight and creating space will seem like a great idea until you get a flat on the M1 at 2 in the morning in the pi**ing rain.
what i meant was if i had to use spare and driving round with 3 19's and a 16 lol
yh i was thinking of getting one of them anyway lol
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Im in the same situation as you Linz, contemplating on whether to take the spare out for my boot build, ive been advised not to.
Im lucky enough to have a boyfriend who does this sort of stuff for a living and he's using MDF to make a hinged latch to get to to the spare. Id rather not have it but im keeping out of the design and im just letting him get on with it.
Ive got 2 12" 400W RMS Pioneer subs to go in, with a 800W RMS JBL power amp with a power cap, I was going to get the boot build fibre glassed but it's hassle and Im impatient! :grin: Ive got a load of red vinyl "leather" to cover the bootbuild and some white neons just to chav it up a bit :smug:
We've measured it all and 2 subs, amp and the power cap all fit nicely in my mk3 boot, was gonna build the enclosures for the subs from scratch but I might just buy 2 sealed sub boxes to save time. Im having a sub either side of the boot facing diagonally inwards with the power cap in between. The amp is just gonna be bolted to the hinged latch in the middle, I did want to sink the amp in because its got a perspex front where you can see all the wiring inside but I dont know how id go about that.
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Why are you using a cap, they're a little pointless, monies better spent on an uprated alt or battery.
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Why are you using a cap, they're a little pointless, monies better spent on an uprated alt or battery.
Yeah I dunno, alot of people have said that. It came with the amp, there's no harm in having it in there though is there? People have said they drain more power but then why do people have them in that case?
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Its kinda the same as the Ecotek phenomenon, good looks, rave reviews and scientific mumbo jumbo - but in the end, it doesn't achieve anything, and in most cases is just plain detrimental.
Capacitors can discharge a decent amount of power, but it is incredibly brief (like when a camera flash goes off), but it can't be sustained, it must be charged up again. Think along the lines of a disposable camera (poor analogy, but it works), between flashes the cap energizes...but its this period where it is detrimental, because it is drawing necessary voltage/current from the battery. Yes, they charge up very fast - but don't serve any purpose, the battery could provide that hit of power, rather than the cap providing the power, discharging the battery to recharge (whilst the amp still needs power), then dumping the power again.
Money is always better spent on a good battery (Optima Yellow Top etc.) or uprated alternator, caps simply hinder performance.
The only place a cap should be in your ICE is part of a crossover for the speakers. My advice, sell it on eBay and pocket the cash for future upgrades (because once you get that first taste of bass, you can't stop :D ).
So to answer your question, there's no harm in having it in there though is there? Yes, there is.
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y i have to admit im not a fan of power caps either they are really jus a look good thing in my opinion
and its funny you should mention a good battery as i have just bought my baby a red top optima battery :D