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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: sjw on 07 August 2019, 16:53
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Hi guys and girls,
When I want to briefly leave my dog in the car when nipping into a shop etc, how do I turn the alarm off when I lock the car? I've read the manual and it says something about a button on the B pillar, but I can't find it. The only way I can find to do it is to go through the menus, which is a pain in the arse.
Does this toggle button exist in the GTI? Or is it only the base Golf? Only other countries? Help a brother out :laugh:
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The button got removed on the 7.5, but the manual has not been updated.
You either have to a) do it in the menus, which as you point out is a bit of a faff, or b) when you get out and press lock on the key fob, the indicators will flash once, press lock on the key fob a second time and you will get another indicator flash and the car will still be locked but interior monitoring AND deadlocks will be deactivated until you unlock the car again.
Unlike the Mk7, on the 7.5 There's no way of just turning off the interior monitoring and having the car fully deadlocked, unless you go through the menus.
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The button got removed on the 7.5, but the manual has not been updated.
You either have to a) do it in the menus, which as you point out is a bit of a faff, or b) when you get out and press lock on the key fob, the indicators will flash once, press lock on the key fob a second time and you will get another indicator flash and the car will still be locked but interior monitoring AND deadlocks will be deactivated until you unlock the car again.
Unlike the Mk7, on the 7.5 There's no way of just turning off the interior monitoring and having the car fully deadlocked, unless you go through the menus.
I was under the impression that a double press would only turn off the deadlocking - is the interior monitoring being turned off documented anywhere?
Also, is the interior monitoring the only way the alarm can be set off, or does it go off if the handles are tried etc? I've never even heard my alarm so have no idea what it sounds like or how it behaves.
Final question - how far apart do the presses have to be? I often press the lock button a second time out of habit, as maybe I wasn't looking the first time so I'm not sure if the car is locked or not. I'd say there's 5-10 seconds between my presses. Would this count as a double press?
Ok THIS is my final q - does the LED on the key indicate that a command has been sent, or that the command has been received by the car? Becuase these are two different things.
I'd love it if the key fob behaved like Mercedes, where a double press, which disables keyless entry, causes a distinct flashing pattern on the key
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I was under the impression that a double press would only turn off the deadlocking - is the interior monitoring being turned off documented anywhere?
Not documented as far as I'\m aware, but you can try it yourself by locking the car with the window down then reaching in, the seniors won't activate. This was discovered on the R forum.
Also, is the interior monitoring the only way the alarm can be set off, or does it go off if the handles are tried etc? I've never even heard my alarm so have no idea what it sounds like or how it behaves.
Motion/vibration sensor for movement of the car. So no pulling a door handle doesn't set the alarm off, but rocking it or jolting it will.
I'd love it if the key fob behaved like Mercedes, where a double press, which disables keyless entry, causes a distinct flashing pattern on the key
On the Golf you can disable the keyless like you can on Merc. you do it by pressing lock on the key fob, then pressing the door sesnor button a few seconds after pressing the key fob button.
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I was under the impression that a double press would only turn off the deadlocking - is the interior monitoring being turned off documented anywhere?
Not documented as far as I'\m aware, but you can try it yourself by locking the car with the window down then reaching in, the seniors won't activate. This was discovered on the R forum.
Also, is the interior monitoring the only way the alarm can be set off, or does it go off if the handles are tried etc? I've never even heard my alarm so have no idea what it sounds like or how it behaves.
Motion/vibration sensor for movement of the car. So no pulling a door handle doesn't set the alarm off, but rocking it or jolting it will.
I'd love it if the key fob behaved like Mercedes, where a double press, which disables keyless entry, causes a distinct flashing pattern on the key
On the Golf you can disable the keyless like you can on Merc. you do it by pressing lock on the key fob, then pressing the door sesnor button a few seconds after pressing the key fob button.
So let me get this straight - if I do a double press on the key, the interior monitoring and the deadlocks turn off, but the motion sensors stay enabled?
WRT the keyless thing, I wasn't talking about actually disabling keyless, I just like the way the Merc fob actually shows you via a light pattern when you've entered a special button function correctly. Unlike the VW fob, which just flashes once for each press whatever.
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So let me get this straight - if I do a double press on the key, the interior monitoring and the deadlocks turn off, but the motion sensors stay enabled?
That's what home tests have shown yes, a double press (not instant, but with a pause in the middle) deactivates the interior motion sensor and deadlocks, but the car is still alarmed.
The problem being the VW manual hasn't been updated for the 7.5, so it might vary from car to car, but that's the consensus and what's been gleaned over on the R forum and also the MK7 forum.
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With my car, after a double click, the flashing led, at the front of the driver’s door top, stops flashing, which I guess means that the internal stuff has been switched off. Another single click starts the led flashing again. Not something I use, so I hadn’t missed the pillar button until I read this thread.
This works if you have previously also tapped the door handle lock dimple, after clicking the remote, to disable keyless entry. The keyless remains disabled, but you can toggle the internal led using double clicks, or single clicks.
I haven’t checked which monitors remain active when the led is off.
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Had a bit of a nervous moment today. While out and about, I had an email sent via the ‘We Connect’ app saying my alarm had gone off as it had detected movement in the vehicle!
Thing is, I was about 3 miles away from the car at this point and not knowing if it was a false alert, or somebody had bumped it, broken in, or insect (butterfly?) had triggered it.
So had to sweat it out for the next 2 hours or so. Getting back to the car, all looked well (to my relief), but the culprit was the dashcam mount had come unstuck from the windscreen (no doubt in the direct sunshine) and triggered the internal alarm.
These apps are great, but caused me a bit of stress otherwise I would have been blissfully unaware. I may decide to disable to alarm next time with the process described in the earlier posts!
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I know it will be a long time from now but I was trying to work out how to turn off the motion/tilt sensor for when I eventual go on the ferry to France.
Without the old B pillar button then I think the only way is via the infotainment system, some thing like... uncheck the option then get out sharpish and lock the car.
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I've had alarm aggro on the odd occasion when I've locked the car for a short while to pay for petrol/post a letter with the kids sitting in the back. Although they/the car are always within my sight, I prefer to lock as I'm a few seconds away from being able to reach them in the unlikely case of some lowlife attempting something with them and/or the car.
As has been stated, it's a pain going into the menu to deactivate the interior sensors and I've found-out the noisy way it will auto-reset to default 'on' every time as soon as the doors are unlocked, even if the ignition hasn't been touched in the meantime.
Fed-up with faffing about with inserting the key and going into the menu, my solution involved removing the plastic alarm sensors trim and covering the motion sensors themselves with tiny pieces of black electrical tape. Once the trim is re-affixed, there is no indication that the sensors have been effectively deactivated.
So far it has been successful, but as I try to avoid the mentioned scenario as much as possible it will be a few weeks before I confidently can claim it's a 100% fix.
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I've locked the car for a short while to pay for petrol/post a letter with the kids sitting in the back
When I was a kid my parents used to get me to hit the lock/unlock button from inside the car when they went into a petrol station etc. That way it locks without the sensors. Obviously it depends on the age of the kids and if you trust them to unlock it and let you back in :grin:
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I've had alarm aggro on the odd occasion when I've locked the car for a short while to pay for petrol/post a letter with the kids sitting in the back. Although they/the car are always within my sight, I prefer to lock as I'm a few seconds away from being able to reach them in the unlikely case of some lowlife attempting something with them and/or the car.
As has been stated, it's a pain going into the menu to deactivate the interior sensors and I've found-out the noisy way it will auto-reset to default 'on' every time as soon as the doors are unlocked, even if the ignition hasn't been touched in the meantime.
Fed-up with faffing about with inserting the key and going into the menu, my solution involved removing the plastic alarm sensors trim and covering the motion sensors themselves with tiny pieces of black electrical tape. Once the trim is re-affixed, there is no indication that the sensors have been effectively deactivated.
So far it has been successful, but as I try to avoid the mentioned scenario as much as possible it will be a few weeks before I confidently can claim it's a 100% fix.
If it gets nicked and recovered, I don’t think your insurance company would be to impressed. I’ve never needed to turn the alarm of in my Golf as it’s just me in it most of the time, pity there isn’t a sensible double click on the key.
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Doesn't every post in the thread up until this point state that there IS a double press of the key?
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If it gets nicked and recovered, I don’t think your insurance company would be to impressed. I’ve never needed to turn the alarm of in my Golf as it’s just me in it most of the time, pity there isn’t a sensible double click on the key.
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The insurance company cares rather more that the vehicle is locked when required and the key/s kept safe. After all, not every new car is fitted with a factory-fitted alarm even these days.
My alarm is still 'on' and only one element of it has been de-activated - the doors/bonnet/boot sensors and anti-tampering systems still work just fine. The car is still as unlikely as before to get nicked in my part of the world as the tell-tale red LED on the driver's door still flashes, so no-one could tell any different. Also other anti-theft measures like the steering lock and crucially the immobiliser are still fully functioning.
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Ring your insurance company, tell them you have modified / disabled your factory fitted alarm, an alarm which is a defined criteria of the conditions of your policy, and ask will that affect your premium. That will tell you how much they care.