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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: jaceyboy on 26 January 2021, 11:25
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Just saw a Golf R MK8 near my house in white, very under whelmed, looks much nicer in Lapiz Blue on videos ive watched, as per the MK7 GTi look better in white than the MK7 R...definitely would not purchase in white that's for sure.
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Just saw a Golf R MK8 near my house in white, very under whelmed, looks much nicer in Lapiz Blue on videos ive watched, as per the MK7 GTi look better in white than the MK7 R...definitely would not purchase in white that's for sure.
You'd better get some pics off to Volkswizard pretty quick.....
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Just saw a Golf R MK8 near my house in white, very under whelmed, looks much nicer in Lapiz Blue on videos ive watched, as per the MK7 GTi look better in white than the MK7 R...definitely would not purchase in white that's for sure.
You'd better get some pics off to Volkswizard pretty quick.....
Is that what he's ordered?, bad choice...
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Just saw a Golf R MK8 near my house in white, very under whelmed, looks much nicer in Lapiz Blue on videos ive watched, as per the MK7 GTi look better in white than the MK7 R...definitely would not purchase in white that's for sure.
You'd better get some pics off to Volkswizard pretty quick.....
Is that what he's ordered?, bad choice...
Tried to post a link but not working...he was thinking of ordering one in white.
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Nasty that's all I can say for that amount of money
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White normally contrasts well with the gloss black.
Trouble is the R needs a quite a few grand throwing at it to look ‘right’ such as Performance Pack and probably the Akra too. Although many owners might prefer the much stealthier look of the standard car, I’ve read plenty of posts in the past (mk7 days) of those wanting the car played down as much as possible. Everyone is different.
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Think you are pretty Wrong ;)
Looks fresh and awesome :grin:
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Think you are pretty Wrong ;)
Looks fresh and awesome :grin:
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Thing is, it really doesnt....
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That said, I like that in white. At least you can see that blue line.
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Of the three available colours, if I was buying one I’d get it in white - IMO the easiest of the three colour options to maintain, and it’s the free colour (what does ‘Additional costs may apply’ mean though if you choose white?). But hey, it’s good we don’t all like the same things.
It does need the 19” Estoril alloys though. Standard wheels are :sick:; in my opinion of course.
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Of the three available colours, if I was buying one I’d get it in white - IMO the easiest of the three colour options to maintain, and it’s the free colour (what does ‘Additional costs may apply’ mean though if you choose white?). But hey, it’s good we don’t all like the same things.
It does need the 19” Estoril alloys though. Standard wheels are :sick:; in my opinion of course.
Spot on about the alloys.
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It does need the 19” Estoril alloys though. Standard wheels are :sick:; in my opinion of course.
Spot on about the alloys.
I much prefer the standard alloys. :whistle:
Volkswizard said something about having a bad experience with Lapiz blue and white being lower maintenance. :undecided:
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It does need the 19” Estoril alloys though. Standard wheels are :sick:; in my opinion of course.
Spot on about the alloys.
I much prefer the standard alloys. :whistle:
Volkswizard said something about having a bad experience with Lapiz blue and white being lower maintenance. :undecided:
Mine is Lapiz and yes it’s absolutely lovely. Beautiful colour and probably my favourite I’ve ever had but it’s super soft and so easy to mark. Perhaps that says more about modern paints than Lapiz though.
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It does need the 19” Estoril alloys though. Standard wheels are :sick:; in my opinion of course.
Spot on about the alloys.
I much prefer the standard alloys. :whistle:
Volkswizard said something about having a bad experience with Lapiz blue. Also, white being lower maintenance. :undecided:
It may have been how easily it is to unintentionally inflict swirls into Lapiz Blue paintwork, unless it gets washed using a very careful safe washing technique. Same also applies to any other dark coloured paint such as Deep Black Pearl. White paintwork will also suffer from swirling without a safe wash technique being used, but it will be far less visible. Hard water spotting will also be more of an issue on Lapiz and DBP than it will on White.
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Volkswizard had a Mk7 R in Lapiz Blue (2014 I think?) and had some problems with it - check out his channel. Some of the problems related to the paintwork around the front of the car. From his latest video, I don't think he necessarily dislikes LB as a colour, more that it reminds him of his previous car and the problems he had with it. If you discount LB, you have black or white and black is possibly the worst colour for showing up scratches and marks.
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For me it would be Lapiz Blue and only that if I was going for R. but yes there has been plenty written about the LB paint quality which puts people off and I think you are right Volkswizard had issues with his 2014 car and probably why he was(would be) keen to stick to white.
As for standard alloys, im not really a fan either but want to see they in the metal before I condemn them totally. I do feel they look too close to existing MK 8 wheel choices...but if you were looking for stealth car, that would work in your favour.
I will wait for lockdown and then maybe a tour of VW dealers to find a few to look at.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olPJw_ENkHk&t=14s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olPJw_ENkHk&t=14s
ha ha thanks @kmpowell yes I watched this the other night... I am no where near Wrexham so will have to make do with this video for timebeing.
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Lapiz Blue or black is the only way forward
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https://youtu.be/8e_IicpT664
I don't think this has been posted here yet...
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Lapiz Blue or black is the only way forward
Or a White one :whistle:
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White is nice but black doesn’t suit it I feel
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Love lapis but it doesn’t suit the Mk8 R at all imo. White all the way for me. Lighter colours seem better on the performance golfs. Personally, the R doesn’t really do it for me this time though.
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It's a shame they don't still do Oryx White for the MK8 Golf R. I currently have an Oryx White Golf R MK7 and absolutely love the pearl effect of Oryx White on a performance golf and feel it suits it. But if I were to get another Golf R I would go for either white or Lapiz Blue. But if Oryx White was up for grabs I would definitely go for Oryx White.
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White one at Motorline Gatwick
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The 18” standard R wheels look so much better than the terrible Gti efforts.
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White one at Motorline Gatwick
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That looks awesome - the black roof/ sunroof helps it a lot
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Cant help feel that the Clubby looks so much nicer :undecided:
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Black Estorils anyone????
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Black Estorils anyone????
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ME!! :grin:
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Hmmmm quite liking that - good find thanks
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Black Estorils anyone????
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ME!! :grin:
That's better, looks good like our GTi :grin:
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One thing I'd say about that R photo is that the nose is hidden in shadows and you can't see the big honeycomb grill...
Which is the thing people say they don't like about the Mk8.
Its clearly a flattering photo, but don't we all look better in dimmer light :laugh:
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Black Estorils anyone????
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Is that 59700 euros?! I know it's not the UK but £52k for a Golf is BIG money. So many options at the £50k mark!
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Is that 59700 euros?! I know it's not the UK but £52k for a Golf is BIG money. So many options at the £50k mark!
They start at €63.5K in Ireland!
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Black Estorils anyone????
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Is that 59700 euros?! I know it's not the UK but £52k for a Golf is BIG money. So many options at the £50k mark!
Yep and if you want to lose a shed load of money buy one :huh:
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Presumably this is why leasing is becoming more popular in Germany.
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Guess it will be.
Back to the white one, I actually prefer that to an all-black one I've seen which just looks too much and loses all the design details.
No idea why they only have 3 colours to choose from though? That's just poor. Silver, grey, red are all good colours for the R. They surely could offer them as premium colours at £1000-2000 and people might go for it.
Perhaps will be good for companies like this https://www.logicvpc.com/liquid-colour-film/ who do peelable paint.
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Is that 59700 euros?! I know it's not the UK but £52k for a Golf is BIG money. So many options at the £50k mark!
They start at €63.5K in Ireland!
Wow, that is crackers.
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Buying/leasing/PCP its all the same - you are paying for the loss of value, only in the latter two you are contracting to pay only the first X years loss (plus margin from the lease company).
No escaping the fact that cars are a depreciating asset and basically a giant money pit.
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Yes but I would expect for many people €300 per month will be more palatable than paying almost €60,000 in one go :undecided:
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Just depends on the person really.
The cheapest way of owning a new car in the UK is to get heavy discounts from a broker, take manufacturer PCP with desposit contribution and then pay it off in full as soon as you take delivery.
That's the cheapest way.... assuming you have the capital.
After that its a variety of methods depending on your appetite for financial risk and available monthlies.
I wonder if anyone these days ever buys a 40k+ new car on manufactuer HP?
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Just depends on the person really.
The cheapest way of owning a new car in the UK is to get heavy discounts from a broker, take manufacturer PCP with desposit contribution and then pay it off in full as soon as you take delivery.
That's the cheapest way.... assuming you have the capital.
After that its a variety of methods depending on your appetite for financial risk and available monthlies.
I wonder if anyone these days ever buys a 40k+ new car on manufactuer HP?
The cheapest way of owning a new car
The cheapest way isn't to own it in the first place!
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You guys in the UK don't realise how good you have it.
Here in Ireland, the GTI CS is 52.5k. The R is another 11k. Spec either of those up and you're into pretty crazy money. Oh to have the 40k "luxury car tax" problem!
Discounts here are small. You'll need to deal directly with individual main dealers. If you manage a discount of 2.5 - 3k you'd be doing well. There's no concept of a "broker" here in the car buying game. I guess our market is much too small for a Carwow type of model.
Road tax - the CS just about sneaks into €420 per annum. The R is €600 p/a. If you're feeling flush, a Tiguan R costs €2,400 p/a to tax.
On the plus side, I think our finance rates and deposit contributions tend to be better than you guys typically get. The GTI / R is currently at 1.9% APR. It has been available at 0% on and off in the past.
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You guys in the UK don't realise how good you have it.
Here in Ireland, the GTI CS is 52.5k. The R is another 11k. Spec either of those up and you're into pretty crazy money. Oh to have the 40k "luxury car tax" problem!
Discounts here are small. You'll need to deal directly with individual main dealers. If you manage a discount of 2.5 - 3k you'd be doing well. There's no concept of a "broker" here in the car buying game. I guess our market is much too small for a Carwow type of model.
Road tax - the CS just about sneaks into €420 per annum. The R is €600 p/a. If you're feeling flush, a Tiguan R costs €2,400 p/a to tax.
On the plus side, I think our finance rates and deposit contributions tend to be better than you guys typically get. The GTI / R is currently at 1.9% APR. It has been available at 0% on and off in the past.
The moral of the story, dont live in Ireland :grin: :grin:
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You guys in the UK don't realise how good you have it.
Here in Ireland, the GTI CS is 52.5k. The R is another 11k. Spec either of those up and you're into pretty crazy money. Oh to have the 40k "luxury car tax" problem!
Discounts here are small. You'll need to deal directly with individual main dealers. If you manage a discount of 2.5 - 3k you'd be doing well. There's no concept of a "broker" here in the car buying game. I guess our market is much too small for a Carwow type of model.
Road tax - the CS just about sneaks into €420 per annum. The R is €600 p/a. If you're feeling flush, a Tiguan R costs €2,400 p/a to tax.
On the plus side, I think our finance rates and deposit contributions tend to be better than you guys typically get. The GTI / R is currently at 1.9% APR. It has been available at 0% on and off in the past.
The moral of the story, dont live in Ireland :grin: :grin:
It’s not a car enthusiast friendly country, that’s for certain!
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I blame St Patrick. He's driven all of the R's out of Ireland just like he did the snakes :grin: :grin: :grin:
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You guys in the UK don't realise how good you have it.
Here in Ireland, the GTI CS is 52.5k. The R is another 11k. Spec either of those up and you're into pretty crazy money. Oh to have the 40k "luxury car tax" problem!
Discounts here are small. You'll need to deal directly with individual main dealers. If you manage a discount of 2.5 - 3k you'd be doing well. There's no concept of a "broker" here in the car buying game. I guess our market is much too small for a Carwow type of model.
Road tax - the CS just about sneaks into €420 per annum. The R is €600 p/a. If you're feeling flush, a Tiguan R costs €2,400 p/a to tax.
On the plus side, I think our finance rates and deposit contributions tend to be better than you guys typically get. The GTI / R is currently at 1.9% APR. It has been available at 0% on and off in the past.
Can't you hop on the ferry and come and buy one in Liverpool (when the current situation has improved obviously...)?!
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You guys in the UK don't realise how good you have it.
Here in Ireland, the GTI CS is 52.5k. The R is another 11k. Spec either of those up and you're into pretty crazy money. Oh to have the 40k "luxury car tax" problem!
Discounts here are small. You'll need to deal directly with individual main dealers. If you manage a discount of 2.5 - 3k you'd be doing well. There's no concept of a "broker" here in the car buying game. I guess our market is much too small for a Carwow type of model.
Road tax - the CS just about sneaks into €420 per annum. The R is €600 p/a. If you're feeling flush, a Tiguan R costs €2,400 p/a to tax.
On the plus side, I think our finance rates and deposit contributions tend to be better than you guys typically get. The GTI / R is currently at 1.9% APR. It has been available at 0% on and off in the past.
How does the price of the Performance Golfs compare with something like a top spec ID3?
Over here the range topping ID3 is about £3k more than a Golf R.
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Can't you hop on the ferry and come and buy one in Liverpool (when the current situation has improved obviously...)?!
No, not that simple I'm afraid. You'd have to pay a very hefty tax on importing it (VRT - Vehicle Registration Tax).
Used UK imports have been very popular here, especially in recent years, but changes to the import tax / VAT, etc following Brexit has also made that very expensive and has possibly killed off used UK importing here.
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You guys in the UK don't realise how good you have it.
Here in Ireland, the GTI CS is 52.5k. The R is another 11k. Spec either of those up and you're into pretty crazy money. Oh to have the 40k "luxury car tax" problem!
Discounts here are small. You'll need to deal directly with individual main dealers. If you manage a discount of 2.5 - 3k you'd be doing well. There's no concept of a "broker" here in the car buying game. I guess our market is much too small for a Carwow type of model.
Road tax - the CS just about sneaks into €420 per annum. The R is €600 p/a. If you're feeling flush, a Tiguan R costs €2,400 p/a to tax.
On the plus side, I think our finance rates and deposit contributions tend to be better than you guys typically get. The GTI / R is currently at 1.9% APR. It has been available at 0% on and off in the past.
How does the price of the Performance Golfs compare with something like a top spec ID3?
Over here the range topping ID3 is about £3k more than a Golf R.
Thats interesting. Just looking now and the top spec ID3 is €42K on the road (after grants/rebates). So its significantly cheaper than it's petrol powered cousins! Essentially, our current taxation system is very heavily penalising ICE cars, particularly performance petrols.
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Yes for all of the UK government banging on about carbon dioxide and green this that and the other they so far have tried to avoid the backlash from the motor trade...
If they had actually wanted to see change they should have taxed one and subsidised the other heavily. Make it either too expensive one way or so staggeringly cheap the other.
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And you still get the luxury tax on EV/hybrid cars over £40k. So they are hardly enticing people to go green or than the company car drivers/directors.
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And you still get the luxury tax on EV/hybrid cars over £40k. So they are hardly enticing people to go green or than the company car drivers/directors.
you don't pay luxury tax on fully Electric cars.
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And you still get the luxury tax on EV/hybrid cars over £40k. So they are hardly enticing people to go green or than the company car drivers/directors.
you don't pay luxury tax on fully Electric cars.
As above, you don’t pay any VED on full electric no matter what price they are. And if below a certain value the plug in car grant reduces the list price by £3k.
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Full Monty on that Black R .... Looks pretty ....
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Full Monty on that Black R .... Looks pretty ....
Looks very stealth-like. I wouldn’t buy a black one though - I’ve owned more than my fair share of black cars and with my car OCD, they’re too much like hard work to keep them looking good.
I’m not normally a fan of black wheels, but those black Estoril alloys look the business :cool:, and no issues with white worm either.
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Wow, the all black R looks proper badass!
We have full Stormtrooper white on the previous page and now Darth Vader spec!
Be interesting to see what the UK take up of R colours will be considering the huge colour palette available :rolleyes:
Can see it being mostly a split of white for the company car benefit lease brigade and blue for the £50k R Home Counties set.
Maybe a few 1st division footballers will make up the deficit in Pearl black orders but they’ll only get them wrapped in lurid colours anyway... :laugh:
How the hell is anyone even able to afford a sporty Golf in Ireland with those horrific car taxes?
Kind of makes the £475 a year ‘luxury tax’ look like peanuts.
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1st division footballers?! I’m guessing you haven’t followed football for a while 😂
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1st division footballers?! I’m guessing you haven’t followed football for a while 😂
I’m old fashioned, what’s all this EFL nonsense anyway?! :grin:
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Haha, yeah I agree. I haven’t followed football since Saint and Greavsie were on
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If you have your own chauffeaur to polish your car, order black.
Otherwise you will just look like a total dirtbag whenever you arrive somewhere.
None of the R colours bode well for trying to minimise dirty looking cars though. I guess after you've spent that much money on it it will never leave the garage so it probably doesn't matter anyway.
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How the hell is anyone even able to afford a sporty Golf in Ireland with those horrific car taxes?
Kind of makes the £475 a year ‘luxury tax’ look like peanuts.
Good question!
The MK7 / MK7.5 R was actually a really big seller here. I bought one myself and at that time you could get one for approx €45k and on a 3 year low-rate PCP, it was reasonably affordable and definitely well outstripped the GTI in terms of sales here.
5 years later, the equivalent car is the bones of €20K more - large part of that is due to taxes but a significant part of it is down to VW too as they've hiked prices significantly over the last few years. A €64K car is very very expensive, even on low rate PCP, so it'll be interesting to see how many MK8's will shift here. They'll surely be a much rarer car than before.
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How about the inevitable drag race...
https://youtu.be/HmANHSVPEpo
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How about the inevitable drag race...
https://youtu.be/HmANHSVPEpo
To keep the Football Analogy going, this the (Golf) crowd would chanting Easy Easy Easy
Followed by “Can we drag race you every week”
Does seem to have some go and....well don’t want to spoil the result 😂😂
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How about the inevitable drag race...
https://youtu.be/HmANHSVPEpo
To keep the Football Analogy going, this the (Golf) crowd would chanting Easy Easy Easy
Followed by “Can we drag race you every week”
Does seem to have some go and....well don’t want to spoil the result 😂😂
Wasn't expecting that :shocked:
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Its a hell of a performance, more than you would expect for the ~ 14 extra horsepower.
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Something to do with vdm vectoring maybe?
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Impressive performance...
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Something to do with vdm vectoring maybe?
I could see it if cornering was involved but wouldn't have thought it would make 'that' much difference in a straight line.
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If they are using launch control, maybe the BMW xdrive is not capable of putting as much power to the rear wheels as the Golf?
I'm not surprised the Merc gets trashed by the others tbh
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How about the inevitable drag race...
https://youtu.be/HmANHSVPEpo
You could at least give people warning its that ArseeHamilton. :lipsrsealed:
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If they are using launch control, maybe the BMW xdrive is not capable of putting as much power to the rear wheels as the Golf?
I'm not surprised the Merc gets trashed by the others tbh
When you look at a similar drag race with an S3 vs the M135 and the Merc the result is a lot more predictable. That golf just f*&$ed off - more than the 10hp difference between an S3 and a 'R' would explain. If it is the VDM then it is quite magic. Or VW have given it some spare HP they had lying around - which is my hunch.
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Well pretty much no new car has only what the brochure says - the other day I saw a video from some tuners saying the GTI's 245 is more like 265 on the dyno.... so by that token, I'd guess the R is putting out easily 20+ more than on paper - but then again I'll bet the M135i and A35 are too.
I wondered if it was aero drag too - but the A35 is lower coeffficient than the Mk8 R.
So not that.
Could be tyres, but didn't look like it could be unless both the BMW and the Merc had been to Kwikfit for some ChingPongWaos.
I can only assume that ultimately something about the way the R puts the power down is superior in this case?
From the paper spec:
A35 0-60 4.9s
M135i 0-60 4.6s
Mk8 R 0-60 4.7s
But what they were doing wasn't a 0-60 though was it? It was a standing quarter.
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Wasn't the Golf R the only one on 18 inch wheels? :undecided:
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Well pretty much no new car has only what the brochure says - the other day I saw a video from some tuners saying the GTI's 245 is more like 265 on the dyno.... so by that token, I'd guess the R is putting out easily 20+ more than on paper - but then again I'll bet the M135i and A35 are too.
I wondered if it was aero drag too - but the A35 is lower coeffficient than the Mk8 R.
So not that.
Could be tyres, but didn't look like it could be unless both the BMW and the Merc had been to Kwikfit for some ChingPongWaos.
I can only assume that ultimately something about the way the R puts the power down is superior in this case?
From the paper spec:
A35 0-60 4.9s
M135i 0-60 4.6s
Mk8 R 0-60 4.7s
But what they were doing wasn't a 0-60 though was it? It was a standing quarter.
Who and what we need is......Matt Watson from CarWow!!!
....to tell us......What Exactly Happened.
At least when he does a drag race we get the standing quarter times.
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You know could it be something like gear ratios and DSG vs slush boxes?
DSG is very quick as we all know... especially in this particular sort of thing (accelerating hard constantly)
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Presume it would be the same box in the S3 which in 'the same' drag race didn't put nearly as much distance between its rivals.
I guess it could be all of the above, the aggregate of marginal gains. Its bloody impressive whatever it was.
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They’re all privately owned cars so possibly a sneaky tune?
I’ve seen a few rolling road graphs of the M135i engine in both the BMW and JCW that are putting out a decent amount less than the 306PS (but these might have been cars that hadn’t reached the magic 1000km running in ECU trigger for all I know).
A good result though.
The posh lad needs to cut down on his E numbers though...
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They’re all privately owned cars so possibly a sneaky tune?
I’ve seen a few rolling road graphs of the M135i engine in both the BMW and JCW that are putting out a decent amount less than the 306PS (but these might have been cars that hadn’t reached the magic 1000km running in ECU trigger for all I know).
A good result though.
The posh lad needs to cut down on his E numbers though...
So looks like we need a second opinion. Hopefully the Golf was standard, but wasn’t sure what had been done to the M135i
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It’ll be interesting (assuming the R was standard) to see one go up against the all conquering A45S. Could be reasonably close!
The Motech M135i was previously running a Tuning Box (obviously removed for the vid) and I think it has an intake and exhaust (the latter being merely expensive eye candy admittedly). Quite likely had MPS4s tyres on it too.
The Golf R was fairly likely wearing Bridgestones! :grin:
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Just seen the Tiguan R is open for order so had a go on the configurator. It has more colour options than golf R also has options like climate windscreen and discover nav pro is only £600 not £1600. But to have Harmon Kardon system you need panoramic roof? Strange really how the options of VW R models are not aligned with each other more. Why only 3 colours on the golf but more on the Tiguan?
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That is weird, but also not surprising, I really feel the marketing department look too see how they can annoy the buying public into trading up to other models.
Been out for a walk and my local garage has one(Tiguan R) in the showroom. No it defo is as it was lapiz blue and 4 exhausts
I’ll check the configurator out now...thanks for mentioning
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Not sure if this was posted up elsewhere?
Pistonheads and the Golf R https://youtu.be/9n9HQVCDUPo
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Just seen the Tiguan R is open for order so had a go on the configurator. It has more colour options than golf R also has options like climate windscreen and discover nav pro is only £600 not £1600. But to have Harmon Kardon system you need panoramic roof? Strange really how the options of VW R models are not aligned with each other more. Why only 3 colours on the golf but more on the Tiguan?
when I looked yesterday it was either pan roof or roof mounted storage box sunglasses thing.
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Not sure if this was posted up elsewhere?
Pistonheads and the Golf R https://youtu.be/9n9HQVCDUPo
This just popped up in my YT recommends so gave it a lunchtime watch. Great review. He's come a long way from those early evo videos when he sounded a bit dull and boring.
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Carwow review now up
https://youtu.be/j9LEro19Ues
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0-60 in 4.0 secs flat is very impressive.
The general consensus seems to be it drives better than the previous R with more feel. I'm liking it.
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Agreed, stupid touchscreen nonsense aside it looks like a belter.
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Predictably the new ‘best car in the world ever’
It’s good to see the performance was similar to the excitable posh lad comparison vid, which begs the question of how close the stats are to the 100 bhp or so more powerful Merc A45S.
A stage 1 8R is going to be incredibly quick and capable :cool:
Fair points about the interior materials too.
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Its going to be mechanically an awesome car, it really is.
Styling, well, who cares really. Its not about the styling really and its hardly a Geely special.
VW interface.... well my first 24 hours have been a little bit frustrating and I'm not done yet with figuring out quite what the hell is going on with half of it.
However if you just want to get in a drive, it won't bother you one bit. Just ignore the gubbins!
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Well if you can’t figure out some of it fredgroves then there’s no hope for some of us!
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I've just been out to it to try and make the thing work....again.... thought I'd fixed it....again.... log back into we-connect and no...
Its not so much "we connect" as "we don't really connect do we"
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I gave up on we disconnect.
I’m now ‘guest’.
I’m good with that.
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After an afternoon on the phone to VW support its beginning to try my patience.... :angry:
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After an afternoon on the phone to VW support its beginning to try my patience.... :angry:
What is actually happening (or not happening) with it, Fred?
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After an afternoon on the phone to VW support its beginning to try my patience.... :angry:
What is actually happening (or not happening) with it, Fred?
Having a hell of a time getting my profile to be active and the damned thing to talk to VW over the esim.
Think its actually patchy mobile signal from the car actually - just been for a drive (any excuse) and when I moved a few miles down the road it seemed to be playing ball finally, I could use both keys to activate my account and finally I think its working.
Will validate again later.
Massive pain in the backside.
But like Exonian says, you could always just give up and drive around as guest and not worry about the POS.
I am a persistent bugger though and not happy if something doesn't work!
BTW that was a trip without any surprise error bongs!
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I gave up on we disconnect.
I’m now ‘guest’.
I’m good with that.
LOL, the admin and setup is a real pain in the ar£e. Not sure mine is done properly via the We Connect portal, We Connect Go or whatever. Still can’t get keyless to work, will try again when I can be bothered.
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All the video's and reviews im seeing are making me more and more want the new R :drool: not this year tho .... :whistle:
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Get your order in now then, with VW’s legendary turnaround it might be ready by summer 2022... :whistle:
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Get your order in now then, with VW’s legendary turnaround it might be ready by summer 2022... :whistle:
hmmm your not wrong
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All the video's and reviews im seeing are making me more and more want the new R :drool: not this year tho .... :whistle:
You wait, they will be under £35k soon...
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White One with Pan Roof and Dcc .. Ive told my dealers to keep and eye open , they normally pretty good ,
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Anyone have any idea of the sort of discount currently available on the R
Would be a factory order if that makes a difference
Cheers
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Anyone have any idea of the sort of discount currently available on the R
Would be a factory order if that makes a difference
Cheers
I’ve seen 15% through Drive the Deal mentioned over on VWROC.com forum. I’m assuming that the 15% includes whatever the current VW finance deposit contribution is.
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£5,590 (or 14.2%) off a standard car. :nerd:
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Last email I had from dtd was £33,680... 14.5%. That will include vw deposit contribution. That was 23rd Feb.
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Last email I had from dtd was £33,680... 14.5%. That will include vw deposit contribution. That was 23rd Feb.
there is actually a price increase of 700Euro on all GTI in germany since 1st of march.
VW excuse is trying to discourage customer from buying internal combustion.
VW teamed it "Way to zero" apparently it is design to lead customers towards electromobility.
but, i don't understand why they can’t reduce the price of the electric car to lead customer towards electromobility :angry:
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I'm not really sure vw should be doing things like that unless it's discounts on electric vehicles.
Such punishing strategy really should be left to government.
This sounds more like vw simply profiting.
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Cheers for the replies I wonder will the same discounts apply to the Clubsport Edition
Currently deliberating over whether to change my CSS for a Mk8
If they had produced a more limited run and something a bit more unique it would make the decision easier
Another option is keeping the CSS and changing the 7.5 PP GTI we have to an Edition 45
Bit more research required though
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Well the ED45 is an option pack for the clubby.... I'm not sure how discounts are applied to options by DTD.
Have a feeling the discount on options isn't anything like the headline percentage on the base car (because the headline discount rate is including the deposit contribution that obviously doesn't scale up when you add things)
Remember also that the ED45 pack will take you over the 40k threshold... meaning an extra £300 a year road tax for the first 5 years...
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On the German Configurator it’s listed as a separate model, not a pack like on other sites. All very confusing as usual!
Andrew Chapple has apparently had it straight from Vw that it’ll be under £40k, but as Fred says it’ll soon go over if you want certain options.
It’s believed to not be limited run in terms of numbers but limited more by time like the tcr was. If this is true, I’d expect the usual level of discount to be available.
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VW excuse is trying to discourage customer from buying internal combustion.
VW teamed it "Way to zero" apparently it is design to lead customers towards electromobility.
Then make me an ID3R then :undecided:
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VW excuse is trying to discourage customer from buying internal combustion.
VW teamed it "Way to zero" apparently it is design to lead customers towards electromobility.
Then make me an ID3R then :undecided:
Look at the Cupra Born. I believe it’s based on the id3 platform. There will be an id3R. Please forget this post if it never happens. :grin:
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VW excuse is trying to discourage customer from buying internal combustion.
VW teamed it "Way to zero" apparently it is design to lead customers towards electromobility.
Then make me an ID3R then :undecided:
Here you go, its already out... :whistle:
(https://www.teslarati.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/volkswagen_id_r-pikes-peak-bend-e1530123592966.jpg)
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The Cupra Born looks pretty much the same as the ID3 barring a few SEAT-esque styling tweaks.
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What can we say? :cool: :shocked:
https://youtu.be/GdX1YiruB64
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R apid
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What can we say? :cool: :shocked:
https://youtu.be/GdX1YiruB64
Had to turn it off as arsee hamilton, computer says no.
Someone will have to give me cliff notes. :grin:
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There is a lot of howling by owners of other marques about these R drag races.
Lots of "VW must be cheating"
I am fairly sure that drag race performance is not just a (quoted) power to weight ratio issue.
Its going to be something to do with the powerband and the shift points on the automatic gearboxes. I doubt very much when in "sport mode" that most cars are shifting up at the absolute optimum point, but instead shifting up at the redline (because it looks good on the dials).
I suspect VW could well be "gaming" this, but not for dumb tests like this, but actually have set the car up to actually perform optimally for road use...
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Black style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRRiffUUQYo
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Snoopy’s fave YouTuber again.
Skip to 10 mins as I’m pretty certain the first half would be agonisingly awful to watch.
https://youtu.be/fJ5rmIcJBIY
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Snoopy’s fave YouTuber again.
Skip to 10 mins as I’m pretty certain the first half would be agonisingly awful to watch.
https://youtu.be/fJ5rmIcJBIY
Can’t say I was surprised by the results here. The way that R is pulling away from others in these drag races there had to be more bhp on tap.
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Archie’s R came off the DMS dyno with 340ps ( it’s basically brand new ) with the anticipation of 350-355ps when it’s done another 2000 - 3000 miles.
He said if you’re redlining, and your revs don’t drop below 5000 the 8R is always above 300ps whereas other cars ( a45, mk7.5r ) drop significantly. So gearing and electronics win
Watch from 12m 30 ish
https://youtu.be/fJ5rmIcJBIY
So I was actually correct in my assumption earlier..... peak power is not the be all and end all in drag racing!
TBH this has been the most ridiculous debating point about road cars that I've seen in a long time. Its even more daft than Ring laptimes. At least a laptime is indicative of handling capabilities on top of flat out acceleration and top speed.
Still, well played VW, you've created an internet sensation and I'm sure your order books will fill up now people aren't talking about haptic buttons, unlit heater controls and the absolutely essential missing bonnet gas strut :whistle:
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Snoopy’s fave YouTuber again.
Skip to 10 mins as I’m pretty certain the first half would be agonisingly awful to watch.
https://youtu.be/fJ5rmIcJBIY
For my sins i actually skipped most of it and watched the dyno result part last night before seeing this thread only as i was curious. His camera work gives me motion sickness.
Owners like him is why i would pick a Clubsport over the R :wink:
The 100-200kph times of both are nearly the same so
I'd take the CS over the dragqueen R
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VW excuse is trying to discourage customer from buying internal combustion.
VW teamed it "Way to zero" apparently it is design to lead customers towards electromobility.
Then make me an ID3R then :undecided:
Look at the Cupra Born. I believe it’s based on the id3 platform. There will be an id3R. Please forget this post if it never happens. :grin:
From what I have read they are looking to do a ID3R but not before 2024 (I think they really want to gen next batteries in it, so you can have some performance and some range.
I battled through AHR video beginning to end and was amazed and then read all the comments on VWROC saying oh yeah but the DMS dyno always over reads. But the basic premise about gearing and power delivery still hold and are very interesting what they have managed to do.
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Saw my first Golf R in the flesh today and Tiguan R and I have to say it looked pretty good, as did the Tiguan. For me it needs the performance pack for the back spoiler and two less doors, but in lapiz blue (or the unavailable moonstone), I could be tempted.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DwhrLsk9/IMG-1456-2-LI.jpg)
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Is that VW Northallerton Trev? I've bought my last two GTis from them 👍
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Is that VW Northallerton Trev? I've bought my last two GTis from them 👍
Yes mate, we've bought our last few cars from there. Great service.
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Is that VW Northallerton Trev? I've bought my last two GTis from them 👍
Yes mate, we've bought our last few cars from there. Great service.
do you use the service dept? If so good/bad?
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Is that VW Northallerton Trev? I've bought my last two GTis from them 👍
Yes mate, we've bought our last few cars from there. Great service.
do you use the service dept? If so good/bad?
We use Darlington for our servicing because it's on our doorstep.
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Is that VW Northallerton Trev? I've bought my last two GTis from them 👍
Yes mate, we've bought our last few cars from there. Great service.
do you use the service dept? If so good/bad?
We use Darlington for our servicing because it's on our doorstep.
👍👍
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Picked mine up last Friday. Really pleased with it. Couple of pictures after I had it detailed
(https://i.ibb.co/wQrM9Wm/01-BDBAA3-346-D-4210-8564-5-B52-E40-C4-A52.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VCp27S4)
(https://i.ibb.co/xHWmSQz/B90-F5-C4-F-A9-B9-4-DAB-8-B5-A-0-E25-DADC1-A8-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ySthnJg)
(https://i.ibb.co/h98L5jZ/877-C21-A5-9-DB8-4959-81-C6-3-BABE7-ED9-C20.jpg) (https://ibb.co/W5KG9wP)
(https://i.ibb.co/R9y2c3k/60350-FED-841-D-4-FC4-8-A7-D-705-D8-AE28199.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zrJsZXT)
(https://i.ibb.co/MkqJG4L/A39-D1-BC2-F452-4365-B1-E1-05788-B09-EE86.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nMhKnvS)
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:cool:
Exactly how I'd have it. Same colour, same wheels.
Nice!
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Same here , Same spec i will order
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That looks fab Darlo :cool:
Really liking that.
Mini review definitely required before you vanish off to the R-Line forum :whistle: :laugh:
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Not sure about the car seat :grin: :huh:
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Thanks guys. I was worried about the seats as well. However the blue isn’t as in your face as that pic suggest. It’s more subtle than that. Here is a pic the detailer took with a decent camera.
(https://i.ibb.co/tmLFMnt/16-DCD6-CF-82-AB-44-B9-847-A-3466-A0-ADB769.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GxHNvGL)
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That looks fab Darlo :cool:
Really liking that.
Mini review definitely required before you vanish off to the R-Line forum :whistle: :laugh:
Thanks mate. Yep I will post my thoughts when I get a few miles in it... only done 100 so far.
Coming from two mK7 gti’s (dsg and manual) and a 7.5R I have a nice basis of comparison. I can say I am really enjoying it and it’s getting a fair bit of attention from people. Wife has an A35 and i test drove an M135i.... all the bases covered to praise or moan :grin:
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We’ll be looking forward to reading more with baited breath! :cool:
Would love to read your thoughts on it compared to the others. :afro:
I can well imagine it’s getting a lot of attention, there aren’t many mk8’s around just yet and they look quite futuristic from the front.
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Have you seen another ClubSport yet, Exonian?
Up until today, I had only seen two GTIs total in the 3-4 weeks since getting mine. On the way to work this morning, I saw two GTIs around a minute apart. One Silver and one Dolphin that was absolutely filthy. Had the silver one stayed on for another junction, there would've been three of us pretty much together.
Not seen another ClubSport, nor an R yet, though.
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No, I’ve yet to see another Clubsport Brocky.
The only other mk8 GTI’s I’ve seen were all on dealer forecourts, as was the only 8R I’ve seen.
There is however an R-Line owned by someone who lives approx 100ft from my house!
To be honest I’ve been very good with lockdown and haven’t done any mileage since Xmas that wasn’t either to work (daily) or dropping food to my elderly in-laws once a month. Being as I work shifts and have a rural commute I don’t see that many vehicles.
It’ll be interesting come mid-April when my area will be literally swamped with visitors whether I’ll see many more sporty mk8’s.
Normallly there’s a really good presence of GTI’s and R’s in my neck of the woods. They sell a lot of VW’s down this way. I’ve seen around half a dozen TCR’s alone (one white, one red and the rest grey) excluding my old one. Even Ed40’s were in reasonable supply (considering their rarity) a few years back. I still see a couple about from time to time.
So, for the meantime I’m enjoying the exclusivity.