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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: AndyGTI on 03 November 2020, 06:33
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Just been looking at German configurator for GTI Clubsport and they have added further wheel choices....
When you choose one of the GTI Cup wheels up pops a message saying you need to choose “Edition 45”
Sorry would add photo but just can’t get it work on here
(Thanks to Spikeyboy22 for tip off about new wheels)
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Here you go!
(https://i.postimg.cc/wMrgtsct/FEBB9456-B9-A9-489-D-BEA6-5941-DAE9133-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XB9TmqP3)forever love poems for her (https://poemsonly.com/poem/1208)
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Thanks King Monkey
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Thanks King Monkey
No, thank you Andy. That was a great spot.
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No worries, just interesting to find out as much as possible on the Performance Golfs as possible.
I clicked on the further info tab and (translated) this is what it said for this GTI Cup wheels:
Wheel locks with extended theft protection
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Progressive steering for 19-inch alloy wheels
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4 "Scottsdale" alloy wheels, 8 J x 19
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Exhaust system (sound exhaust)
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The electronic limitation of the top speed was increased to 270 km / h
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235/35 R 19 tyres
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€3,850.42 😬
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Hi Guys
Just thought I would share my Eureka moment on the way to work this morning.
We have been assuming that there would be two R versions but as seeing mention of Edition 45. How do you think this stacks up
Golf GTI 245ps
Golf GTI Clubsport 300ps
Golf GTI Edition 45 320ps
Golf R 333ps
I know opinion has been divided on here about whether there would be any more power or just cosmetic upgrades to the ED45 but if they(VW) are mentioning Edition 45 on the configurator...why not in the owners manual so that might be the 235kw option on the recent Volkswizard post.
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€3,850.42 😬
Surely they must be carbon at that price or that price is for a package that includes other components such as CUP2 tyres or equivalent.
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€3,850.42 😬
Surely they must be carbon at that price or that price is for a package that includes other components such as CUP2 tyres or equivalent.
With semi-slicks the price is €4,825.21. 😬
I can only think at that price there must be some mechanical upgrade somewhere 🤷♂️
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€3,850.42 😬
Surely they must be carbon at that price or that price is for a package that includes other components such as CUP2 tyres or equivalent.
With semi-slicks the price is €4,825.21. 😬
I can only think at that price there must be some mechanical upgrade somewhere 🤷♂️
Wow 😳 perhaps the ED45 is the last special GTI and VW are throwing everything at it?
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Wow 😳 perhaps the ED45 is the last special GTI and VW are throwing everything at it?
No I think they are going to go out on the ED50 actually.... big birthday, one last Golf hurrah... along with an ID-3 fith birthday model (IED? lol birthday with a bang :whistle:)
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Hi Guys
Just thought I would share my Eureka moment on the way to work this morning.
We have been assuming that there would be two R versions but as seeing mention of Edition 45. How do you think this stacks up
Golf GTI 245ps
Golf GTI Clubsport 300ps
Golf GTI Edition 45 320ps
Golf R 333ps
I know opinion has been divided on here about whether there would be any more power or just cosmetic upgrades to the ED45 but if they(VW) are mentioning Edition 45 on the configurator...why not in the owners manual so that might be the 235kw option on the recent Volkswizard post.
That’s a really interesting idea. It makes sense to me.
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No 320 R and 333 R Performance! :whistle:
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I don't think we should have seen those wheels as they have removed them off the german website and the new wheel design is off the UK website and the pictures of the Estoril wheels have also gone off the german site ...
I think some one stuffed up
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I don't think we should have seen those wheels as they have removed them off the german website and the new wheel design is off the UK website and the pictures of the Estoril wheels have also gone off the german site ...
I think some one stuffed up
Not like VW to mess up the configurators :whistle:
Glad you mentioned it and good to see them. Obviously the Estoril wheels are destined for the R. The other ones well we will have to wait and see.
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Thought I'd update this. Had my Clubsport test drive today and got chatting after. The chap I spoke with isn't your standard VW salesman, he's a petrol head. There is 100% something hotter on the way they have been told. Edition 45 came up a few times as the suspected name although he did mention just 'Edition' had been floating about. They haven't been told exactly what it will be, he couldn't confirm anything really apart from it is coming. He expected it to be R money, but again, that's not confirmed.
I'm not pulling the trigger on a Clubsport order just yet ...
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Now we know all about the clubby, what else could they do?
My guess:
Stickers (think TCR...)
Seats with the name stitched into them
Akra as standard
Different wheels, 19's as standard perhaps?
Perhaps some sort of exclusive colour(s), possibly a black roof.
302bhp -not as much as the R but enough to say "its quicker"
The button like on the R, on the steering wheel that sets it to full attack mode.
I don't know what else they could throw at it really? Its already got Ring mode, it can't have R (or more than R) power can it? Definitely can't have drift mode lol.
Even so, 3500 quid more than a clubby?
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I’ll add one more thing to the list: gloss black trim.
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Just wish they stick a manual box in it to make it different. Like the old clubsport S. Unlikely to happen sadly. If it did id buy one. :smiley:
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Think I might wait to see if an Edition 45 is confirmed. Then I promise I’ll never buy another car ever again...
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Just wish they stick a manual box in it to make it different. Like the old clubsport S. Unlikely to happen sadly. If it did id buy one. :smiley:
There is nothing to stop actually them doing this. They know there is still demand for manuals in performance and sports cars. Just look at the Yaris GR and Porsche aren't exactly afraid of sticking manuals in their special cars.
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Just wish they stick a manual box in it to make it different. Like the old clubsport S. Unlikely to happen sadly. If it did id buy one. :smiley:
There is nothing to stop actually them doing this. They know there is still demand for manuals in performance and sports cars. Just look at the Yaris GR and Porsche aren't exactly afraid of sticking manuals in their special cars.
I read somewhere that the US version of the R will be available with a manual box. So I'm sure they could do it if they could be bothered. :rolleyes:
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American vw isn't built in Europe though is it. Its all about the logistic tail and simplification of it to reduce cost.
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American vw isn't built in Europe though is it. Its all about the logistic tail and simplification of it to reduce cost.
Mk8 Golf GTI and R models for the US market will be built in Germany, according to this news item in motor1.com;
https://www.motor1.com/news/423131/2022-vw-gti-golf-r/
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Just wish they stick a manual box in it to make it different. Like the old clubsport S. Unlikely to happen sadly. If it did id buy one. :smiley:
There is nothing to stop actually them doing this. They know there is still demand for manuals in performance and sports cars. Just look at the Yaris GR and Porsche aren't exactly afraid of sticking manuals in their special cars.
I read somewhere that the US version of the R will be available with a manual box. So I'm sure they could do it if they could be bothered. :rolleyes:
I can see why they wouldn't bother for the R, certainly not here in the UK. But a special GTI would work well with a manual as it did for the CSS.
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There is nothing to stop actually them doing this. They know there is still demand for manuals in performance and sports cars. Just look at the Yaris GR and Porsche aren't exactly afraid of sticking manuals in their special cars.
I have a GRY on order, i would have a manual ED45 as well if it was available.
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There is nothing to stop actually them doing this. They know there is still demand for manuals in performance and sports cars. Just look at the Yaris GR and Porsche aren't exactly afraid of sticking manuals in their special cars.
I have a GRY on order, i would have a manual ED45 as well if it was available.
Good choice! So much hype around it but it is actually a great car by all accounts. Just doesn't sound exciting from the outside but that's the only negative I can see.
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True about the noise outside on the GRY it sounds like a Dyson.. A plus is it doesn't attract attention
A few other negatives but after a test drive I was sold.
Plenty of people working on exhausts if owners want a fix. HKS solution already out.
https://youtu.be/kE55_oyrsdU
I had intended to use the Yaris as my new, year round daily, but having second thoughts about giving it that role. I may push my mk6 GTI into that role or change the mk6 for an Edition45 if they make a manual one.
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True about the noise outside on the GRY it sounds like a Dyson.. A plus is it doesn't attract attention
Few other negatives but after a test drive I was sold though.
Plenty of people working on exhausts if owners want a fix. HKS solution already out.
https://youtu.be/kE55_oyrsdU
I had intended to use the Yaris as my new, year round daily, but having second thoughts about giving it that role. I may push my mk6 GTI into that role or change the mk6 for a Edition45 if they make a manual one.
There are some terrible ideas out there but an Edition 45 and a GRY isn’t one of them! Makes total sense to me.
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Is the GRY actually a practical car? I'd worry it would be like driving around inside of a washing machine. I'm too old for that lol
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It's got fake engine noise in the cabin that makes you think you are on a special stage at all times
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Is the GRY actually a practical car? I'd worry it would be like driving around inside of a washing machine. I'm too old for that lol
Im to close to 50 ;) and theres alot of people in mid 60s and 70s got orders in. boots not very big. Back seats not that much headroom. Rear seats do fold flat giving flat extended boot which is useful. Parcel shelf is a joke. But suprised how refined it is inside. Mainly tire noise at motorway speeds but no worse than mates mk7.
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It's got fake engine noise in the cabin that makes you think you are on a special stage at all times
just like a golf :tongue:
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That was praise! I had 2 hours in the GRY, then into the 7.49 GTD and it was like I was in an old taxi.
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Think you took that the wrong way i ment to put a wink was having a joke.
You got alot more seat time than I did. Your entitled to your views I liked the car so ordered one.
The fake sound can be turned off just like a golf :wink:
https://youtu.be/U-omd4_h-wU
Theres also a flap that opens in the air box increasing the induction noise. This is a vacumn operated valve that can simply be disconnected if wanted.
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No way, keep the noise!
The 356 page pistonheads thread keeping you entertained?
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There are some terrible ideas out there but an Edition 45 and a GRY isn’t one of them! Makes total sense to me.
Its what ive been thinking its what GTIs do best.
Would have to be manual, we have had DSGs before, i just cannot get on with it. Personal thing.
Other wise my pampered very low milage mk6 5dr GTI will fill the role.
I don't buy cars for myself very often. Last one was 10 yrs ago!
So about time I replaced some of them....
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No way, keep the noise!
The 356 page pistonheads thread keeping you entertained?
check it every so often when have time. Lots of hype on there though. Not many cars in recent years have got me interested. A mates very excited about his orders he is keeping me busy on measenger haha.
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@jv, @snoopy- how did you find the ride, compared to a typical golf gti?
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JV would be the best one to coment on this as he jumped back into a GTD straight after.
. Over winter months I use my leon. Its alot softer than the GTI and when i get back in the GTI im always shocked at how much stiffer the ride is. Ive not used the GTI since end September early October.
. Im often a passenger in my mates Golf R but my feelings on ride quality is different as a passenger or driver.
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It would be a worse car for me ( than my golf ) 90% of the time, I’m just interested to hear views on how compromised it is for daily use.
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I think the ride would not be on the list of compromises. It's pretty incredible across the usual rough old UK country roads, very impressive. The issues are going to come from whether you expect it to be an all round family car. If not, buy one before they are all gone! If you really are comparing the two cars:
Back seat space
Boot is pretty tiny
Rear visibility not great
The screens, dash, general ergonomics etc are a long way off the Golf
Main problem with it is you spend a lot of time grinning.
I got back in the Golf like it was a loved old arm chair, comfy, everything just right.... and so damn boring to drive in comparison! :grin:
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Damn. I really didn't want to hear that.
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I think the ride would not be on the list of compromises. It's pretty incredible across the usual rough old UK country roads, very impressive. The issues are going to come from whether you expect it to be an all round family car. If not, buy one before they are all gone! If you really are comparing the two cars:
Back seat space
Boot is pretty tiny
Rear visibility not great
The screens, dash, general ergonomics etc are a long way off the Golf
Main problem with it is you spend a lot of time grinning.
I got back in the Golf like it was a loved old arm chair, comfy, everything just right.... and so damn boring to drive in comparison! :grin:
I very rarely arrange test drives- the last time I tested a car I didn't buy was an Impreza in 2002.
My slight obsession with the GRY got the better of me and I've just come back from a 30 minute test drive.
Realised within 5 minutes that it's a poor choice for a daily.
For me, the ride is too firm. Have to say I wasn't too impressed with the damping either, though I did drive some pretty crap roads and perhaps I was expecting too much.
Definitely agree about ergonomics- no comparison with the golf.
Driving dynamics? I've no idea! It's no coincidence that all the journos who are testing this car are doing their video reviews from fast open roads in Wales/ the Scottish highlands. On the roads I drove today- some fairly congested B roads in North Worcestershire- I didn't get close to getting a feel for this car's dynamic character. Just felt quick- and planted. And, strangely, a bit heavy.
The golf is more fun on these roads. Honestly.
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I hope there is some more info on this soon, I’m itching to place a Clubsport order but really want to see what this turns out to be first.
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I’m not due to change but if there’s an Ed45 confirmed, I like it and can afford it I’ll be getting one. I’m looking for a car to keep I think. That’s what I say now...
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I’m looking for a car to keep I think. That’s what I say now...
I know that feeling :laugh:
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I’m looking for a car to keep I think. That’s what I say now...
I know that feeling :laugh:
That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all year! Sorry. Couldn’t help myself with that one! :grin:
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From history of the edition models I would be expecting info around April with delivery around September.
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Some helpful person on twitter pointed me towards this on https://www.volkswagen.cz/
(https://i.postimg.cc/02ktV4Fn/C0-F66825-CAFF-4563-B033-88-E902001839.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RqYQFgMJ)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zGPPbkdj/25-C0-DF5-A-14-B9-47-B8-84-A8-DD25-A7-B7-FAC1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNyGW2Hh)
(https://i.postimg.cc/m2mmJwGs/90-C12225-D89-D-4-E70-8-BD5-BCD5-EC078-A4-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XpyKy9JH)
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So that's an ed45 with optional plus pack. The plus pack gives you ninteens, akra and cup2 tyres?
And the ed45 is just a clubby.
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Shame they don't appear to have made enough effort on a "real" Edition car?
And the ed45 is just a clubby.
The current Clubsport, appears to be nothing more than a comprehensive "Performance Pack" over the base GTi.
A good thing as one is needed in the range, it seems we may have all got our hopes up a little too much? :)
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The Ed45 is a package for the CS. I’m going to try to decipher what you actually get in it. If I have time...
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Think I can see a derestricted top speed in there to 167mph.
Akra exhaust with titanium pipes.
Black roof and mirror caps.
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Obviously the Configurator doesn’t work but you get the idea.
(https://i.postimg.cc/PxtKLKL3/F52119-EC-68-E0-4-DC3-BEAE-65-B7-D3771-F4-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mc57JYyC)
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Shame they don't appear to have made enough effort on a "real" Edition car?
The current Clubsport, appears to be nothing more than a comprehensive "Performance Pack" over the base GTi.
No, the current Mk8 clubby is more than the old GTI vs GTI PP. It does have some quite different engine and external physical differences.
What is new here is that "ED45" is an option pack for the clubby, like the "performance pack" for both the old Mk7 Golf R and the curent Mk8 R.
I guess that's just another way of marketing it - maybe by doing it like that they get around some WLTP testing or something. Its not another model, its an option pack.
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Fred, I can read the specs and I did use the word comprehensive, it is a step up, but no bespoke aero, seats..... the Ed45 with the pack may have the potential to be more of a special version. heres hoping.
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Apparently there are going to be bespoke seats. It’s just that the Configurator doesn’t show them yet and I can’t speak the language. :grin:
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When you select a particular option this happens... This indicates that the option is loaded I presume.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pLHLhXMd/8-D5517-E2-603-B-4096-8-CA4-FFF528-F42875.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8xTRhZV)
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When you select a particular option this happens... This indicates that the option is loaded I presume.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pLHLhXMd/8-D5517-E2-603-B-4096-8-CA4-FFF528-F42875.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8xTRhZV)
GTI Social Distancing Edition :huh:
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Some helpful person on twitter pointed me towards this on https://www.volkswagen.cz/
(https://i.postimg.cc/02ktV4Fn/C0-F66825-CAFF-4563-B033-88-E902001839.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RqYQFgMJ)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zGPPbkdj/25-C0-DF5-A-14-B9-47-B8-84-A8-DD25-A7-B7-FAC1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNyGW2Hh)
(https://i.postimg.cc/m2mmJwGs/90-C12225-D89-D-4-E70-8-BD5-BCD5-EC078-A4-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XpyKy9JH)
:smiley: Yes I posted that on Twitter this afternoon.
I'm in a similar position, as was going to swap my ED40 for a Clubsport after the test drive but want to see what the ED45 is, and have been constantly searching for information.
On the face of it, if it is a circa £3.5k option pack it might not be bad value.
As you'd get
19" option wheels (exclusive Scottsdale)
Delimited top speed
Black roof
Black Mirrors
(Maybe Gloss black skirts and grill??
Akra exhaust
Specific cloth interior
45 badges
Considering the price of the Akra alone on the R that could be good value, and may get you a white ED45 for under the £40k tax too?
Irish price list states SOP week 48 though, and I still can't see if that means week 48 this year, Ie November 2021 or if it goes on manufacture week, and they count week 1 of MY22 sometime in August 2021???
I have to say though it looks like the 19" Scottsdales will be red faced, which I am not sure about.
German sites all state it will be released March though so watch this space.
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So glad I was nice about you! :grin:
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It's not bad price really, nineteens are eight hundred on their own.
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Anybody got a picture of the Scottsdale wheels?
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Here you go!
(https://i.postimg.cc/wMrgtsct/FEBB9456-B9-A9-489-D-BEA6-5941-DAE9133-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XB9TmqP3)forever love poems for her (https://poemsonly.com/poem/1208)
I think this is what they will look like.
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So glad I was nice about you! :grin:
:grin: Yes that was nice :smiley:
It those wheels I am not sure about.
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Maybe it's tradition, but one of the wheels available on the Edition 35 was called Scottsdale, although they have a different pattern to those shown above.
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Maybe it's tradition, but one of the wheels available on the Edition 35 was called Scottsdale, although they have a different pattern to those shown above.
Now I had an edition 35 and I thought they were called Glendales and Watkins Glen.
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So glad I was nice about you! :grin:
:grin: Yes that was nice :smiley:
It those wheels I am not sure about.
I couldn’t drive a car with red alloys! :sick:
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They’re as ugly as the stock richmonds :grin:
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So glad I was nice about you! :grin:
:grin: Yes that was nice :smiley:
It those wheels I am not sure about.
I couldn’t drive a car with red alloys! :sick:
I’m with you there. Red Wheels are not my idea of a good choice.
Well if that’s the only choice then that is rubbish.
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Maybe they’ll be offered in two finishes like the Estoril wheels. There’s things listed in their Ed45 pack that we have as standard so it’s all guess work as usual. Fingers crossed!
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Could anyone in Ireland please ask a VW dealer when they can order the "racing packet" for Clubsport please?
Can't get any sense out of UK dealers as its not listed in the options yet, but is in the Irish product guide?
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Could anyone in Ireland please ask a VW dealer when they can order the "racing packet" for Clubsport please?
Can't get any sense out of UK dealers as its not listed in the options yet, but is in the Irish product guide?
When I was in ordering mine I was told week 48 for spec'ing the racing pack. I'm guessing that was a build week and would be available to order before then though. I always take what the dealer says with a pinch of salt.
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Surely that can't be right that we won't get an Edition 45 till December 2021?
That would be a lot of orders won't be recieved until 2022? 46 years edition? or is my man maths wrong
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Could anyone in Ireland please ask a VW dealer when they can order the "racing packet" for Clubsport please?
Can't get any sense out of UK dealers as its not listed in the options yet, but is in the Irish product guide?
Try Frank Keane VW in Dublin on the number below.
00353 1 426 2000
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Surely that can't be right that we won't get an Edition 45 till December 2021?
That would be a lot of orders won't be recieved until 2022? 46 years edition? or is my man maths wrong
Released at 45 years... Delivered slightly afterwards
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Surely that can't be right that we won't get an Edition 45 till December 2021?
That would be a lot of orders won't be recieved until 2022? 46 years edition? or is my man maths wrong
Released at 45 years... Delivered slightly afterwards
It’s the VW way. :wink:
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Doesn't quite have the same ring to it, does it?
Edition 46 :undecided:
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The year has always been a bit flexible, based on when the model was old and needed a bit of a sales promo and always seems to line up with the end of a model life. Doesn't fit with the marketing dept to create a new special edition just as the mk8 appears.
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configurator open in Germany for Edition 45 clubsport package from feb.
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Where did this information come from or is it just speculation for February?
Irish price list states November 2021?
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There’s nothing on the German website so I’ll believe it when I see it. Hope you’re right though.
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I have the info and pic of car but unlike other forums I can’t see how to post the pic from photo library
If someone puts an email address I’ll send what I have over
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I have the info and pic of car but unlike other forums I can’t see how to post the pic from photo library
If someone puts an email address I’ll send what I have over
You have to use https://postimages.org/ or similar.
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If you go on pistonheads, then scroll down to other marques you will see Audi,Vw,seat and Skoda subsection,click that and look for New mk8 gti Clubsport owner ,I have put what I have there
Hopefully someone can link it on here.
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If you go on pistonheads, then scroll down to other marques you will see Audi,Vw,seat and Skoda subsection,click that and look for New mk8 gti Clubsport owner ,I have put what I have there
Hopefully someone can link it on here.
(https://thumbsnap.com/s/WrF7txHp.png?0127)
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In Germany all sorts of things were available long before we can order them in the UK/Ireland.
In other countries further afield they can't even order a Mk8 GTI yet or even got an idea of when they might be able to!
I would guess UK ordering won't be for a little while yet, even though we know its coming at some point in 2021.
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@Kmpowell good spot.
So UK wise probably 2-3 months later judging by normal approach to ordering.
Fred - Yes it seems crazy that some countries haven't even seen a GTI and we are onto loosely 6th performance Golf of the mk8
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Kmpowell
Well done you managed to find and post my info.
There is still plans for special edition Clubsport s /45 that info should be June
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Kmpowell
Well done you managed to find and post my info.
There is still plans for special edition Clubsport s /45 that info should be June
I thought they had said there would not be an “S” this time round?
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Kmpowell
Well done you managed to find and post my info.
There is still plans for special edition Clubsport s /45 that info should be June
I thought they had said there would not be an “S” this time round?
Correct.
And what what have seen so far is an ED45 option pack for the Mk8 clubsport.
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For anyone interested in this new model (like me) VW replied to a question on Facebook about someone asking for the Akrapovic exhaust for the Clubsport, the response was it will be available as part of the ED45 special model from the start of 2021 (before the end of the first quarter) till the end of the year when the model will be phased out and you can then specify the exhaust for regular Clubsports. This may explain the reason the Irish price list mentions from week 48 for the "Clubsport racing pack", which gives you the exhaust and delimited top speed.
So it should mean an announcement is imminent, so will be holding back my Clubsport order till I see what its going to be like and more importantly costs :grin:
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@HA54SYM
Thanks for your update, well it will be interesting to see the cost of ED45 but if Akra exhaust is included then that's going to be a straight couple of grand added to the price before anything else is added. I think before VW UK decided ever TCR should have the akra exhaust it was approx £2750 (at least its less than R equivalent)
So sounds like something in Feb/March. We shall see what delights VW have for us this time
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Page 1 of this thread has the prices in euros.... both with and without cup2 tyres...
You might want to sit down before you click back...
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qEQW3sw10Wg/UySjHFp2vYI/AAAAAAAAALQ/MwxqXjhWe-A/s1600/dt.jpg)
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Thanks for the reminder.
But we are still not sure if it’s cosmetic upgrades (with Akra exhaust as option or included) or mechanical/performance upgrades as well.
But looking back through this thread, I also saw that we had been talking about a 245kW engine that Volkswizard spotted in his GTI test drive car manual.
So is there a 326bhp upgrade for Edition 45? I know others have said no it will be all cosmetic but remember that Clubsport S was more powerful than R at the time.
I know the interview said there would be no Clubsport S but there are so many ways that you can take that statement from (no there will be no Golf Mk8 called Clubsport S or no we are not doing a limited edition, or we aren’t doing a stripped out car and no back seats)
But maybe a production run vehicle which is as practical as a golf but with more power ( as fits an Edition model) but even more chassis trickery could be on cards.
I’m thinking Civic Type R manages front wheels with 316bho so why won’t VW try another 10bhp. As an aside what is the most powerful front wheel drive car production car. I am thinking something that car maker actually sold rather than your mate got stage 3 out of his Old 2wd Focus RS and it was dyno’d at 495bhp.
Anyway apart from all this speculation, the lack of semiconductors and ordering a performance Golf, no doubt they will be into late 21 or 2022 before any appear
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2022 is the 20th anniversary of the original Golf R32. Just saying 🤷♂️
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2022 is the 20th anniversary of the original Golf R32. Just saying 🤷♂️
And VW have a 335ps v6 in the Touareg. We can dream.
Yes good point, maybe looking to leverage R heitage with a 20th Anniversary.
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Page 1 of this thread has the prices in euros.... both with and without cup2 tyres...
You might want to sit down before you click back...
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qEQW3sw10Wg/UySjHFp2vYI/AAAAAAAAALQ/MwxqXjhWe-A/s1600/dt.jpg)
I know it’s off topic but Is that the City of Derry coat of arms / City Arms Londonderry, displayed with Dick Turpin? What’s the connection?
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No idea, just a picture i found when I typed the saying into Google
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Page 1 of this thread has the prices in euros.... both with and without cup2 tyres...
You might want to sit down before you click back...
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qEQW3sw10Wg/UySjHFp2vYI/AAAAAAAAALQ/MwxqXjhWe-A/s1600/dt.jpg)
I know it’s off topic but Is that the City of Derry coat of arms / City Arms Londonderry, displayed with Dick Turpin? What’s the connection?
I think it was to do with the City Council putting up their rates......
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Here we go then chaps: leaked Edition 45 images. So far the visual changes:
- New colour
- Wheels
- 45 side stickering (very nice - and explains why the standard Clubsport stickers are a bit meh)
- Akrapovic exhaust
- Black mirror caps
- Black roof (?) Hard to tell but the rear 3/4 angle suggests so.
Worth nothing that this is clearly a CGI model like the initial Clubsport pics, so it may look better (or worse!) in person.
Make what you want of the ‘345’ in the numberplate... fake ‘WOB’ numberplates for press launches do have a history of meaning something! After all, the standard Clubsport was unveiled in similar photos wearing
‘WOB CS 300’
(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZhQ3dJB/0386-D10-F-D36-F-41-C5-94-F6-B427-A0-AE39-BC.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4NBShsy7/98-F7-DCD4-5-EEC-4-FE6-8-ED7-FB310-F0-EDC4-F.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zDwM8n1k/DA268-B30-E470-4-EF5-85-AE-D058-CE5-A0-DB5.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Good find. The number plate is pretty explicit as to what it is. WOB (Wolfsburg) CS (Clubsport) 345 (Ed 45).
Not keen on the wheels though. Hopefully they're lightweight at least. :smug:
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Good find. The number plate is pretty explicit as to what it is. WOB (Wolfsburg) CS (Clubsport) 345 (Ed 45).
Not keen on the wheels though. Hopefully they're lightweight at least. :smug:
Correct sir. The WOB CS is a given... however they could have stuck any number between 1-9 in front of the ‘45’... why choose ‘3’
Will it have 345ps?
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My guess is they used 3 instead of E.
I'm not expecting it to have 345ps, as that would put it head and shoulders above the R, and only FWD.
But if I'm wrong it wouldn't be the first time. :sad:
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My guess is they used 3 instead of E.
I'm not expecting it to have 345ps, as that would put it head and shoulders above the R, and only FWD.
But if I'm wrong it wouldn't be the first time. :sad:
Agreed, I can't see it having any more power or even mechanical changes underneath apart from the exhaust. Its a ED45 'pack' rather than a whole different specification for engine etc
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You’re probably right, I imagine they’re at the top of emissions regs with the EA888 as it is
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Oh dear ........ those pictures have just cost me some money :laugh:
Thank you for posting those up. Been spending way too much time deliberating on my next daily between returning to a hot golf and Audi S5 sportback ED1.
Problem ( and it’s a silly one ) all my cars are dark grey ( rules out the R - shame - and still not 100% on dolphin grey ) - just can’t get a car whose colour I’m not 110% on.
Think it looks stunning in that colour - I’m firmly in the love black wheels camp (each to their own of course).
45 stickers and red rim on the wheels can be adjusted to make it fit my taste but I think it looks brilliant - hope the grey looks as good as it does in the pics
Would it be too much to hope for some sexy seats and interior trim - probably !!!!
What started out a rubbish day has just got brighter thank you.
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Well if that pic is true, red wheels are reality not speculation.
That's going to seperate the men from the boys.
I really like the look, but suspect the ED45 pack on top of the clubby base price will mean nasty luxury car tax even if you add nothing else.
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Oh dear ........ those pictures have just cost me some money :laugh:
Thank you for posting those up. Been spending way too much time deliberating on my next daily between returning to a hot golf and Audi S5 sportback ED1.
Problem ( and it’s a silly one ) all my cars are dark grey ( rules out the R - shame - and still not 100% on dolphin grey ) - just can’t get a car whose colour I’m not 110% on.
Think it looks stunning in that colour - I’m firmly in the love black wheels camp (each to their own of course).
45 stickers and red rim on the wheels can be adjusted to make it fit my taste but I think it looks brilliant - hope the grey looks as good as it does in the pics
Would it be too much to hope for some sexy seats and interior trim - probably !!!!
What started out a rubbish day has just got brighter thank you.
That’s fine, I was lucky to see them because I don’t think VW plan to launch for another few weeks yet. I think it looks very good too, and certainly the best looking mk8 ‘out of the box’.
Visually, it isn’t very different at all from the standard CS - that’s fine, neither was the mk7 CSS different from the CS. An alcantara steering wheel wouldn’t go a miss though...
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Well if that pic is true, red wheels are reality not speculation.
That's going to seperate the men from the boys.
I really like the look, but suspect the ED45 pack on top of the clubby base price will mean nasty luxury car tax even if you add nothing else.
I believe that pic to be true as I stole it from a reliable ‘leaks’ page! 😁
You’re right - it will be expensive but if anything that’ll only help residuals and keep it ‘exclusive’, as I imagine VW wants to.
Oh and if anyone is a bit iffy about the red rim stripe, let’s just remember that Porsche has just done exactly the same with their brand new 992 GT3... 🤪
(https://i.postimg.cc/pT0mFsht/C0-FA0809-6-B56-4-C1-E-9986-DB7-B2-EAEFCEF.png) (https://postimg.cc/njDV8YGd)
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Oh I think the red rim is rather nice actually, I'd be happy with that on my car.
However such things are divisive - having spent some time in BMW land where they all want to strip the red accents off of their 128ti's to make them look like a 118D. :cry:
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... but it would match their red braces so well!...
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Really pleased to see those pictures, I think I can now relax and continue to enjoy my Ed40. :cool: I don't like 5 doors, the grey paint or the red trim on the wheels. It's also a shame they didn't gloss black all the moulded plastic front/back bumper trim. Maybe once I see some different colours I may get the bug to change, but unlikely methinks?
Edit. Looking again, maybe the bumper trim is gloss?
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That’s fine, I was lucky to see them because I don’t think VW plan to launch for another few weeks yet. I think it looks very good too, and certainly the best looking mk8 ‘out of the box’.
Visually, it isn’t very different at all from the standard CS - that’s fine, neither was the mk7 CSS different from the CS. An alcantara steering wheel wouldn’t go a miss though...
Agree on it being the best looking mk8; I really like it. I’m not usually a fan of black wheels, but those look great, and I think the red pinstripe around the rim works well with the other red accents on the car. Nice paint colour too - which presumably will be exclusive to the ED45.
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Really pleased to see those pictures, I think I can now relax and continue to enjoy my Ed40. :cool: I don't like 5 doors, the grey paint or the red trim on the wheels. It's also a shame they didn't gloss black all the moulded plastic front/back bumper trim. Maybe once I see some different colours I may get the bug to change, but unlikely methinks?
Edit. Looking again, maybe the bumper trim is gloss?
I’m sure all Clubsport 45 owners will wink as they overtake 😜
The joys of CGI images! To me, the black trim still appears to be black plastic. Look at the finish of the spoiler and wing mirrors for comparison. No doubt the colour will look completely different in person too. We already have Urano, Dolphin and Moonstone as flat grey Golf 8 colours, surely this one will be metallic?!
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Really pleased to see those pictures, I think I can now relax and continue to enjoy my Ed40. :cool: I don't like 5 doors, the grey paint or the red trim on the wheels. It's also a shame they didn't gloss black all the moulded plastic front/back bumper trim. Maybe once I see some different colours I may get the bug to change, but unlikely methinks?
Edit. Looking again, maybe the bumper trim is gloss?
I’m sure all Clubsport 45 owners will wink as they overtake 😜
The joys of CGI images! To me, the black trim still appears to be matte black plastic. Look at the finish of the spoiler and wing mirrors for comparison. No doubt the colour will look completely different in person too. We already have Urano, Dolphin and Moonstone as flat grey Golf 8 colours, surely this one will be metallic?!
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Oh I think the red rim is rather nice actually, I'd be happy with that on my car.
However such things are divisive - having spent some time in BMW land where they all want to strip the red accents off of their 128ti's to make them look like a 118D. :cry:
Living in a city, that may not be a bad thing
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Really pleased to see those pictures, I think I can now relax and continue to enjoy my Ed40. :cool: I don't like 5 doors, the grey paint or the red trim on the wheels. It's also a shame they didn't gloss black all the moulded plastic front/back bumper trim. Maybe once I see some different colours I may get the bug to change, but unlikely methinks?
Edit. Looking again, maybe the bumper trim is gloss?
I’m sure all Clubsport 45 owners will wink as they overtake 😜
The joys of CGI images! To me, the black trim still appears to be black plastic. Look at the finish of the spoiler and wing mirrors for comparison. No doubt the colour will look completely different in person too. We already have Urano, Dolphin and Moonstone as flat grey Golf 8 colours, surely this one will be metallic?!
I'm pretty sure Dolphin Grey is metallic.
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I saw that Mr Chapple had tweeted these earlier in the day. Think I nearly wet my pants. I’d love an Ed45. Think the alloys look ok, not as bad as I thought. It’ll be interesting to see what further details emerge. It’ll be an expensive little bugger I bet.
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Not sure whats "new" about the colour. It looks very like the existing Dolphin grey.... which is a colour I haven't made my mind up on. Looks nice in some photos but in many photos it looks so flat and dreary.
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Really pleased to see those pictures, I think I can now relax and continue to enjoy my Ed40. :cool: I don't like 5 doors, the grey paint or the red trim on the wheels. It's also a shame they didn't gloss black all the moulded plastic front/back bumper trim. Maybe once I see some different colours I may get the bug to change, but unlikely methinks?
Edit. Looking again, maybe the bumper trim is gloss?
I’m sure all Clubsport 45 owners will wink as they overtake 😜
The joys of CGI images! To me, the black trim still appears to be black plastic. Look at the finish of the spoiler and wing mirrors for comparison. No doubt the colour will look completely different in person too. We already have Urano, Dolphin and Moonstone as flat grey Golf 8 colours, surely this one will be metallic?!
I'm pretty sure Dolphin Grey is metallic.
So is Moonstone... believe it or not.
I think that ED45 is already Japanese fishing fleet favorite grey.
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Really pleased to see those pictures, I think I can now relax and continue to enjoy my Ed40. :cool: I don't like 5 doors, the grey paint or the red trim on the wheels. It's also a shame they didn't gloss black all the moulded plastic front/back bumper trim. Maybe once I see some different colours I may get the bug to change, but unlikely methinks?
Edit. Looking again, maybe the bumper trim is gloss?
I’m sure all Clubsport 45 owners will wink as they overtake 😜
The joys of CGI images! To me, the black trim still appears to be black plastic. Look at the finish of the spoiler and wing mirrors for comparison. No doubt the colour will look completely different in person too. We already have Urano, Dolphin and Moonstone as flat grey Golf 8 colours, surely this one will be metallic?!
I'm pretty sure Dolphin Grey is metallic.
So is Moonstone... believe it or not.
I think that ED45 is already Japanese fishing fleet favorite grey.
You sure? Moonstone is listed as a flat colour alongside pure white in the Irish brochure.
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Moonstone grey is metallic?
The Clubsport 45 may well not be a different colour, it just looked it upon first glance.
Now is um, probably the right time to say that I’m colourblind... 🤪
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Actually, i was wrong.
:laugh:
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https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/354363/volkswagen-golf-gti-edition-45-anniversary-model-leaked
Some more information here
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https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/354363/volkswagen-golf-gti-edition-45-anniversary-model-leaked
Some more information here
“new front splitter, a black tailgate spoiler and some “45” branded decals for the car’s doors. There’s also a new diffuser at the rear with a larger twin-exit exhaust system.”
Might just be me, but I’m not seeing a different front splitter or rear diffuser on those images compared to the standard clubsport
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With those details you can see why the Ed45 seems to be a package rather than a standalone model. It’ll be really interesting to see how much it’ll be over the CS. I think the exhaust seems to be an akra from those photos but it could be my eyes.
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Got to say I do like this, and I am tempted to swap from my ED40.
As its a pack, we should see the same discount levels through drivethedeal etc then I would think?
The pricing is a concern though as the Akra on the R is £3.1k alone and with 19's we could easily see £4k+ for this "pack", which makes you wonder why they would bother with the Akra in the first place? Surely it would be better including DCC instead, as everyone seems to state its required for 19's and you get the "special mode"?
I also think its Dolphin grey above, and I test drove a Clubsport in that colour and really did not like it.
Guess VW will release this soon with it being leaked all over.
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At this point in time the jury is out as to whether a mk8 needs dcc with nineteens.
However the clubby does need dcc for the design of the handling and of course to enable the ring.
Yes I'd expect it to be about 4k for the ed45 pack... Which won't include a colour.
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Currently undecided :undecided:
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Everyone wants different things out of their car ownership so I can kind of get why someone would spend £4K on a factory pack if they want something a bit more “special” than a regular production Clubsport, but when you’re spending that sort of money an R with Performance Pack and Akra would be just as exclusive and wouldn’t suffer traction issues.
I know people do have a bit of a thing for limited run VW’s though so I guess they’ll sell a few. There’ll be a few pre-reg’d Ex-showroom “bargains” I’d think (so long as you’re a cash purchaser)
Whether DCC is essential for handling is a moot point for an every day road car that isn’t going to be tracked. Yes it’ll make it more compliant for certain road conditions but it won’t absorb sharp ridges any better than the ‘free’ dampers.
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I'm waiting for the official announcement to make up my mind, so we can get a view of any interior changes or performance (unlikely imo) changes
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If its not more powerful you could always but the new Cupra Formentanator...385bhp....RS3 engine in a truck.
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/first-official-pictures/cupra/formentor/
Available in the UK soon.... but only as LHD.
385bhp and the steering wheel on the wrong side.... what could possibly go wrong.
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If its not more powerful you could always but the new Cupra Formentanator...385bhp....RS3 engine in a truck.
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/first-official-pictures/cupra/formentor/
Available in the UK soon.... but only as LHD.
385bhp and the steering wheel on the wrong side.... what could possibly go wrong.
And driven predominantly by influencers... :laugh:
But you guys are right - this will be expensive and £40k plus. Not that a ‘limited edition’ GTI should be cheap because otherwise the point is defeated. However we haven’t seen the interior yet or if there is a power increase. Mr Chapple seemed to think the calliper shape on the E45 was slightly different (beefier) than the CS. I wouldn’t take too much from those images though being CGI.
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If you want a real collectors piece, save your pennies for the ED50.
It will be the last Golf special edition in the UK (2030 = end of new ICE vehicles) and fifty sounds like a magic number.
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I agree Fred. The ‘5’ year increments tend not to be overly special:
25th Anni - best looking mk4 but ultimately half were diesel!
35th Anni - a mk6 with a bodykit and slightly fettled to produce 25ps more but nothing near ‘collectable’
30th and 40th birthdays in the mk5 and mk7 were definitely considered to be more special, especially when considered from a driving dynamics angle.
The GTI Edition 50 will be 2026 and certainly the last purely combustion engined Golf GTI we’ll ever get unless sustainable fuel becomes a thing (I hope in my heart it does but my head says unlikely).
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^^^And not forgetting the much maligned, but loved by me, Mk3 20th Anniversary. It also happened to be my very first brand new car. Available in 8v and 16v petrol engines.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Kv79bpSC/10-Mk3-LI.jpg)
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Edition 45 was planned for 345 bhp,as noted the number plate has CS 345, not a coincidence.
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Edition 45 was planned for 345 bhp,as noted the number plate has CS 345, not a coincidence.
Where is that info from?
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As from my earlier posts I said CS/ED 45 was happening All the experts said it was not , VW themselves denied it. I have been kept in the loop and my deposit was down many months ago, not sure on build numbers yet.
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As from my earlier posts I said CS/ED 45 was happening All the experts said it was not , VW themselves denied it. I have been kept in the loop and my deposit was down many months ago, not sure on build numbers yet.
Yeah, that’s great. Where has the info on the 345bhp come from? Genuinely interested.
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If they have gone with 4 WD route then it’s 345, if they haven’t then it’s less ,that’s you’re lot.
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If that's the case then the ED45 looks a better bet than the ED50, as that will only have 5bhp more.
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If they have gone with 4 WD route then it’s 345, if they haven’t then it’s less ,that’s you’re lot.
We've seen its an ED45 option pack for the clubby.
Think that's fairly conclusive.
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If they have gone with 4 WD route then it’s 345, if they haven’t then it’s less ,that’s you’re lot.
“Please sir, can I have some more?”
:grin:
Your type crack me up, give the source of the information/ proof or bore off
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345 bhp in a front driver? I don’t think so!
345bhp for an anniversary R next year maybe.
The GTI is on borrowed time, there will be a huge shift towards electric even sooner than 2030 and only the R will carry over as it’s never had a fixed format for a power plant IMO.
Go find the early CGI renderings of the Ed40 Clubsports. I don’t think there was ever any intention of giving it 600bhp despite the number plates :wink:
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If they have gone with 4 WD route then it’s 345, if they haven’t then it’s less ,that’s you’re lot.
“Please sir, can I have some more?”
:grin:
Your type crack me up, give the source of the information/ proof or bore off
Never happy are you mate ,always on the want character with nothing to bring to the party.
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As from my earlier posts I said CS/ED 45 was happening All the experts said it was not , VW themselves denied it. I have been kept in the loop and my deposit was down many months ago, not sure on build numbers yet.
To be fair, I don't recall VW ever denying that there would be an ED45. What they said was that there wouldn't be a stripped out Clubsport S. And as far as we know, there still isn't.
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As from my earlier posts I said CS/ED 45 was happening All the experts said it was not , VW themselves denied it. I have been kept in the loop and my deposit was down many months ago, not sure on build numbers yet.
To be fair, I don't recall VW ever denying that there would be an ED45. What they said was that there wouldn't be a stripped out Clubsport S. And as far as we know, there still isn't.
I was just thinking the same. All the speculation I've read has said there would be an Ed45. I've never been in any particular doubt given there's been a 20, 25, 30, 35 and a 40.
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Hey Guys guess what....... :huh: oh you already know.....
I was coming on with news of leaked ED45 and you’ve already done 4 pages about it :grin:
Well it does look an extra bit better, with front splitter and rear. Think I’d have to see the wheels to decide for sure. I think price will edge up to and beyond the £40k mark for that extra tax, but seems the big issue is the engine power.
Seems to be lots of evidence either way, but does the info in the back of Golf manual about a 330ps suggest it could be higher figure output for ED45. I know 345 is tempting and neat for Anniversary.
Honda Civic Type R has 320ps so could VW have decided to edge past with something still possible for a front wheel drive.
I know plenty of take about it’ll be fancy trim and stickers but as long as I can recall an anniversary model has meant extra power too.
Also Mad Theory time......... So Cupra Formentor gets audi 2.5 engine but only for production run of 7000 units. Does that possibly mean that Audi might have some capacity for little old VW in say 2022-23 for a 380/390 Golf R plus. (So the truth behind the story about Audi saying no to VW to use in Golf R was really, yes you can but not until Seat (sorry Cupra) have had their go with it. Any thoughts, flying a kite, total insanity?
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Edition 45 was planned for 345 bhp,as noted the number plate has CS 345, not a coincidence.
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So now confirmed as no extra power at all but lots of extra cost!
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So now confirmed as no extra power at all but lots of extra cost!
Stickers and an exhaust, bonza!
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And a mere 6.5k euro for the privilege!
(German pricing only so far)
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Those are genuine VW stickers you know, not some random ones printed by a printshop.
Solid German engineering comes at a price :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Official UK press release:
https://www.vwpress.co.uk/en-gb/releases/4448
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Same Art Velours seats?
Some nice detailing, shame the stickers aren’t the same style as up! GTI ones with a double row of thick and thin like the mk1 GTI.
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Official UK press release:
https://www.vwpress.co.uk/en-gb/releases/4448
There is some deceiving stuff in there.... unless the ED45 comes with DCC as standard...
I wonder what the "GTI 45" badge looks like on the rear?
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Official UK press release:
https://www.vwpress.co.uk/en-gb/releases/4448
There is some deceiving stuff in there.... unless the ED45 comes with DCC as standard...
I wonder what the "GTI 45" badge looks like on the rear?
You called it Fred, but the power mad (me included) won’t believe you. As has been said here, very early in the model cycle so couldn’t expect engine tweak in reality.
However if the Edition 50 doesn’t have 350ps then it will be a disgrace.......even if you need to take a spare set of tyres just to go to the shops to cope with shredded tyres from the power :grin: :grin:
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Official UK press release:
https://www.vwpress.co.uk/en-gb/releases/4448
There is some deceiving stuff in there.... unless the ED45 comes with DCC as standard...
I wonder what the "GTI 45" badge looks like on the rear?
Hi Fred, I read the press release but couldn’t see anything mentioned about DCC. Think it’s probably still on the options list.
Will be interested to see what take up is like
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Vw website is showing stuff like this. Ed45 linked?
(https://i.postimg.cc/WzZqLh59/1830-B2-CE-E3-FF-49-D0-9760-CB9-E182-E0-E4-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dZqVGtPd)
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Official UK press release:
https://www.vwpress.co.uk/en-gb/releases/4448
There is some deceiving stuff in there.... unless the ED45 comes with DCC as standard...
I wonder what the "GTI 45" badge looks like on the rear?
Hi Fred, I read the press release but couldn’t see anything mentioned about DCC. Think it’s probably still on the options list.
Yes but it mentions "special mode"... without pointing out that that needs DCC... which is what I mean about slightly deceiving...
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Vw website is showing stuff like this. Ed45 linked?
Yes thats the ED45 black roof.
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If the Ed45 got DCC as standard it’d be a bargain. Relatively speaking of course.
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“ a ready made collector’s item even as new”!
Only an idiot would drive something so precious😂
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Official UK press release:
https://www.vwpress.co.uk/en-gb/releases/4448
There is some deceiving stuff in there.... unless the ED45 comes with DCC as standard...
I wonder what the "GTI 45" badge looks like on the rear?
Hi Fred, I read the press release but couldn’t see anything mentioned about DCC. Think it’s probably still on the options list.
Yes but it mentions "special mode"... without pointing out that that needs DCC... which is what I mean about slightly deceiving...
Ahhh I didn’t see that mention, that’s a bit subtle...as king monkey says if it came with DCC it might be a bit of a result... but of course don’t know what the damage is yet,
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“ a ready made collector’s item even as new”!
Only an idiot would drive something so precious😂
Give it five years or so and all ICE cars will be collectors items :whistle:
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“ a ready made collector’s item even as new”!
Only an idiot would drive something so precious😂
Give it five years or so and all ICE cars will be collectors items :whistle:
True! It’s actually a very nice looking golf gti, though I’m struggling to understand from that press release why it’s so expensive. I think the sentence I picked out explains the cost!
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They could of at least give the option of a manual gearbox to make it a little different :undecided:
I agree with the above shame they didn't use the up GTI side decals.
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Yes, manual box, 300ps, lighter than standard car- now that would be a collector’s piece.
Not something with “45” written all over it to remind you what you paid for it.
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Lol that is it!
ED£45K
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There will another Edition version to be announced April/May , Track focused.
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There will another Edition version to be announced April/May , Track focused.
That will be the one with the Cup2 tyres...
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There will another Edition version to be announced April/May , Track focused.
I feel it’s gone all Yoda in Star Wars....
“He is our only hope”.... “No, there is another”
So you’re keeping your deposit with dealer until April/May then?
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So you’re keeping your deposit with dealer until April/May then?
The deposit has been down since the R400 :whistle: :grin:
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So you’re keeping your deposit with dealer until April/May then?
The deposit has been down since the R400 :whistle: :grin:
Getting a GR Yaris in April so I’ll keep deposit down and see what Vw come up with it has to be better than this 45 offering,it needs to be better and more BHP than my current 2016 CSS to make me want one
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So you’re keeping your deposit with dealer until April/May then?
The deposit has been down since the R400 :whistle: :grin:
Getting a GR Yaris in April so I’ll keep deposit down and see what Vw come up with it has to be better than this 45 offering,it needs to be better and more BHP than my current 2016 CSS to make me want one
How much more bhp?
I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect you are going to be disappointed. :sad:
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So you’re keeping your deposit with dealer until April/May then?
The deposit has been down since the R400 :whistle: :grin:
Getting a GR Yaris in April so I’ll keep deposit down and see what Vw come up with it has to be better than this 45 offering,it needs to be better and more BHP than my current 2016 CSS to make me want one
How much more bhp?
I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect you are going to be disappointed. :sad:
325-345 If that little Yaris can get out 270 with a 3 cylinder engine and tuners have been getting 300 easily and one 445 with a bigger turbo and no mechanical upgrades then they Vw are not in the same league.
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Yes, manual box, 300ps, lighter than standard car- now that would be a collector’s piece.
Not something with “45” written all over it to remind you what you paid for it.
Even if they didn't make it lighter but gave a Manual box option, 320PS from R, a few suspension handling and steering tweeks would have done. Rather than just a sticker job, so sad to see :sad:
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At least you get the akra with it. Not sure I’d want more than 300bhp through the front wheels.
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Ed45 is up on the German website. Dcc isn’t standard but hoped it would be more than expected.
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At least you get the akra with it. Not sure I’d want more than 300bhp through the front wheels.
The TCR has near 300 BHP and can state pretty conclusively tramping is not an issue unless really floor it in the wet - my 13 plate GTD used to tramp ridiculously till its first change of rubber but the TCR on P Zero is excellent off the line and having driven an R for 3 years there is no drop off in assurance when pushing down the same roads as the LSD is a great piece of tech.
I am not saying there is no compromise, of course there is when there is extremes at play but for pretty normal to spirited driving the power isolated to the front wheels can even be seen as an add as its by nature livelier.
Have just seen the 45 images and though still meh on the interior, love the Grey Colour, love them wheels and that spoiler also, and for me it fits the 45 anniversary remit as it will stand out and easily sits over the standard ClubSport with the naff door graphic and woeful standard wheels
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Available on coast2coast now, priced at £39,965 :shocked:
Or cash £35,898 PCP deposit £34,648
Looks like all options same as per normal Clubsport, not even DCC included.
So £2750 more than a normal Clubsport, with black roof and mirrors, 19's, speed limit delete and GTi / 45 badges and the Akra, or £1,925 for an equivalent Clubsport on 19's at list.
Worth it or not?
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The black spoiler is probably ugly as sin but aside from that I’d say 100% worth it taking into account the Akra. Not that the standard Clubsport exhaust is exactly lacking in the presence stakes as it’s quite large!
Could you get it in Moonstone and keep it under the tax threshold still? If so I think it would be a good purchase.
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Tax threshold is 40,500 ish isn't it? so it could be possible in moonstone.
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Tax threshold is 40,500 ish isn't it? so it could be possible in moonstone.
Its 40k but thats PLUS the first year tax.... want to say thats actually about 800 quid now. Or you can just look at the car price minus first years tax.
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So you could get DCC as your only option and keep it below the threshold??
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Its £540 for first year road tax, so you can go up to a total list price of 40540.... so whatever option you can find for 574.99 will go under the radar :grin:
Assuming of course that their RRP price is including the tax to start with.
Otherwise, no you can't :)
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Its £540 for first year road tax, so you can go up to a total list price of 40540.... so whatever option you can find for 574.99 will go under the radar :grin:
Assuming of course that their RRP price is including the tax to start with.
Otherwise, no you can't :)
Well that’s a pain. It’s literally £100 over that!
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They say "cash price" is £35,898 "saving you £3,432" and that includes road tax.
So including road tax therefore, RRP is £39,330.... plus £540 tax.
So you have £669 to spend on options to keep it under.
That's enough for.... errrm a single colour other than KR or Oryx.
Or some other things like HUD or HK or rear camera+park assist
Not enough for 19's or DCC though.
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19s are standard though aren’t they on the Ed45?
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Just bear in mind that with lead times being as they are, list price now and list price when you receive the car may not be the same.
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Just bear in mind that with lead times being as they are, list price now and list price when you receive the car may not be the same.
Good point. It’d be a crazy wait. Might even call it an ed46 by the time it comes. :grin:
Just trying to weigh up whether it’s worth pushing for an Ed45 or wait and get a CS at a later point. I’m now really ready to change but I love an Edition gti.
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Might not be anything to go by but German car sales sites are listing them being available at dealer (in Germany) in late July / August so in theory if they make them all at the same time as its a limited edition, then you may see one in UK September / October?
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Might not be anything to go by but German car sales sites are listing them being available at dealer (in Germany) in late July / August so in theory if they make them all at the same time as its a limited edition, then you may see one in UK September / October?
If I remember rightly, it’s limited only by time. All ed45s to be produced in 2021 only.
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You might all get lucky and find VW send a car or two out to dealers that you can buy from stock like they did with the other performance models.
Thankfully the Clubbies all arrived in basic spec so maybe the Eddy will too. Unfortunately the R’s all seemed to arrive with the crap wheels but also a sunroof and DCC (and metallic in most cases) so they were well into the luxury tax.
Then again if you really love the car you might as well spec it how you want and swallow the extra £325 for the subsequent few years.
It’s an expensive old game these days.
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Eddy :)
I'd like an Eddie:
(https://www.ironmaiden-bg.com/web/images/stories/eddie.jpg)
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A fine example of Lockdown Hair there ^^^^
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A fine example of Lockdown Hair there ^^^^
My lockdown hair looks more like this:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMDu_TBVEAAbjru.jpg)
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:grin: :grin: :grin:
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Just bear in mind that with lead times being as they are, list price now and list price when you receive the car may not be the same.
Good point. It’d be a crazy wait. Might even call it an ed46 by the time it comes. :grin:
Just trying to weigh up whether it’s worth pushing for an Ed45 or wait and get a CS at a later point. I’m now really ready to change but I love an Edition gti.
The price of the car is locked in at the point of order and is unaffected by any subsequent VW price increases. The only reason the price paid might be more when it arrives is if the VED has been increased since placing the order.
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The dealer enters the RRP price when they register the car with the DVLA..... literally typing it into a box...
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The price you pay to VW is locked in.
The price you pay for your tax isn’t so if you order at £39999 and VW have raised the list to £40001 by the time you take delivery then the latter is the tax rate you pay.
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One of those weird videos which are actually photos stitched together. Some minor differences from previously stated. No 45 on steering wheel and spoiler isn’t all black but that much better IMO than the all black one. Akra looks good.
https://youtu.be/aI2tkks2h1U
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Red rimmed wheels look terrible :sick:
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Red rimmed wheels look terrible :sick:
Yeah. I’d think I’d have to black that out somehow.
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A fine example of Lockdown Hair there ^^^^
My lockdown hair looks more like this:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMDu_TBVEAAbjru.jpg)
Do you have Eddie's head staples too?
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Yes lol.
Fr'Eddie
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Yes lol.
Fr'Eddie
Are you a Maiden fan? Janick's mam (Lois) was my Nana's best friend and my Great uncle's neighbour for 40 years, used to get free T-shirts from Lois on a regular basis
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How cool is that!
Yes Maiden are great :cool:
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So, Coast2Coast have the ED45 still listed (now with price rise across the whole range) but you need to contact them to get a full quote.
My local VW dealer says its not listed on UK VW system yet till later this month....
In the meantime a few now appearing on German trader sites, and at least one customer order being collected this week so maybe, they will come through late summer if order books open this month in the UK?
I'm favouring this at the moment, but apart from winter pack it would be zero options to avoid car tax.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/SvYAAOSwAZlgY03X/$_20.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/qzkAAOSwBTZgY03X/$_20.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMVgxNjAw/z/7cQAAOSwhFdgY03Y/$_20.jpg)
or moonstone?
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/yl4AAOSwOCVgY03d/$_57.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/FzUAAOSw5llgY03e/$_20.jpg)
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Those red wheels come as part of the basic ED45?
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The all black spoiler definitely isn’t a thing then.
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Yes that's the full spec, no black Akra tips, normal spoiler (with deep black Pearl infill) and the forged 19's with red ring.
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Don't forget the extra sticker on the side skirts... worth about 5s a lap round the Ring that is :laugh:
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Don't forget the extra sticker on the side skirts... worth about 5s a lap round the Ring that is :laugh:
:grin: I just spoke to VW website chat, it was Edition 45 what?
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I'm tempted to ask VW for a question they do have the answer for.... there must be something they know!
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They told me for ages that the TCR would never be released. Concept only. :whistle:
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I do wonder what it may be like to work in customer services for VW.
On the one hand, there's probably some very pushy customers and probably some quite rude ones too.
Although they must have fun at times fobbing customers off with any old tripe.
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Rude? That would have been me the other day when they told me that they couldn't provide any documentation for how the HK menu functions worked.
:evil:
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I do wonder what it may be like to work in customer services for VW.
On the one hand, there's probably some very pushy customers and probably some quite rude ones too.
Although they must have fun at times fobbing customers off with any old tripe.
My previous Golf (1.4 GT Edition), the alarm wouldn't stop going off, it had been going off for around 8 days 24/7, so they asked me to bring it into the nearest dealership, who said "they can't do anything for a few weeks", and advised I have a coffee and call the AA to come in and deal with it, who told me to tell the dealership only they have the software to turn off the alarm.
Useless would be an understatement sometimes when it comes to any kind of customer service :grin:
I just went back the next day after thinking someone would torch the car if it didn't shut up, gave them the keys, and told them I'm not taking it back until it's fixed, four weeks it took.
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The all black spoiler definitely isn’t a thing then.
Which is weird as the configurators on European be sites clearly show it, but might be a paid option in some markets
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Or Black......... :cool:
(https://prod.pictures.autoscout24.net/listing-images/ac7ae724-b572-440a-83c5-747711da8a08_f81cf855-b774-481c-99b3-47d8b2efd96f.jpg/1280x960.jpg)
(https://prod.pictures.autoscout24.net/listing-images/ac7ae724-b572-440a-83c5-747711da8a08_152ec3a2-d702-44d3-bffe-1848b99a4991.jpg/1280x960.jpg)
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Looks a bit strange with just the 45 floating on its own.
Maybe its the perfect car for Scott Redding.
If I was having a number on my car it definitely would be 46 :whistle:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fQJLJg9hzs0/V77OazuCgyI/AAAAAAAADmY/0qj7qFH9v-ct6r4jKaVL5AINdfxw4b4UwCLcB/s1600/46.jpg)
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What is it with the decals, the black ones? Are they not actually decals? I’m sure the ed40 in black had grey decals so you could see them.
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What is it with the decals, the black ones? Are they not actually decals? I’m sure the ed40 in black had grey decals so you could see them.
If you look at the normal clubby on the configurator, if you choose black, the side decal is still black. Which is pretty lame.
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Yeah. Thanks Fred. What I meant was is it actually a decal? If so, not sure why they wouldn’t replace it. Odd.
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Yes I think the skirt decal is there but just black on black...
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What an utterly unsatisfying decal then. :grin:
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Quick walk round an actual car. Exhaust sounds good.
https://youtu.be/BWaMBGg4H4Q
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Maybe it's because of the timing of the 45, in that it is fairly close to mk 8's appearing on the road and the CS styling cues differing from the regular GTi, but I don't think VW have made that much effort with the 45, more a trim "detail" upgrade to charge a few £k extra?
Looking at 30-35-40 editions, they all had engines not avilable in another GTi version and visible body differences.
Looking at the 45, it wouldn't take much for a mk8 CS to make a cosmetic 45, adding a few details and ommiting others such as the red wheel trim? :)
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Think they’re might be something in it with the timing. I would have expected gloss black trim at least but the gti landscape is a bit different this time around. When the earlier editions came along there wasn’t a gti with a much higher bhp than the standard car. This doesn’t leave them anywhere to go.
Financially it’s probably not a bad proposition. The akra exhaust is a £3k option on the R so to be standard in the Ed45 makes it worthwhile. Without it wouldn’t be a consideration.
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Can you not buy a nice (non Akra) exhaust for around £1k for a mk8 Gti, if you like the sound?
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Can you not buy a nice (non Akra) exhaust for around £1k for a mk8 Gti, if you like the sound?
I was thinking the same to be honest. Or even buying the Akra exhaust if its available which it isn't on there website
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I'm not really sure what the Akra offers over some of the others which are nothing like that sort of money...
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Good find with the video clip Michele :cool:
There are things I like and things less so about the “pack”
The wheels look like they might be very light in the way they have minimal metal in the hub area and very thin spokes similar to Belvederes.
The exhaust, just like with the TCR version, looks too inset into the valance trim/diffuser cut out. Unless the thing swells massively when it gets hot? When presented with a £3.5k exhaust I think I’d prefer it to be slightly less hidden. The R version looks a better execution.
Sounds good though.