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Title: Your opinion please
Post by: Gozza on 09 January 2010, 13:11
Hey all,

I recently (as in Monday just gone) paid £310 odd to have a cambelt kit change, metal waterpump, oil and filter change.

Now I decided to have a look at what had been done today and attach a picture of the "new" cambelt below.

In my opinion this looks as though it has not been changed ?? You can still see the same crackingon the belt !!!

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h125/ccgosling/cambelt.jpg)
Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: Wazzzer on 09 January 2010, 13:13
that's the auxiliary belt mate...
Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: Gozza on 09 January 2010, 13:16
Ah  :grin:

Where ths cambelt then ?? Also should this belt be changed with the cambelt ?

Ta
Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: Philpy on 09 January 2010, 13:18
Yeah thats not the cambelt!  :grin:

Although they would of had to take it off to replace the cambelt, so I would of thought they would of changed it whilst in there.  :huh:
Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: Gozza on 09 January 2010, 13:22
Does not surprise me they are chimps.

Would this cause any damage if it goes ? Also how much to buy one of these ?

 :wink:
Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: turboben on 09 January 2010, 13:28
they would not of replaced that belt if it goes in for a cam belt you get a cam belt and maybe tensioners not a auxillary belt, if it needed doing they proberly would of advised you get it done but would of not come in with the price

i cant remember the last time i payed to have work done on my car (i used to be a mechanic and my best mate runs his own garage so free labour and cheap parts)but £310 for a cambelt water pump and service sounds good to me
Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: Wazzzer on 09 January 2010, 13:29
it runs your power steering, alternator and A/C

depends what you asked for when they did the cambelt/service...

also as ben said did you have the tensioner done at the same time as the belt as that bumps the price up a bit
Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: Gozza on 09 January 2010, 13:39
Well I asked for an oil/filter service, cambelt kit with original parts inc damper and a metal water pump change. He is a mechanic all the family use so I think he did it a little cheaper. I did not think it was a bad price so long as it was all done. Whats the easiest way to check people ? also is the aux belt hard to change ?

Thanks all
Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: Dub-77 on 09 January 2010, 13:43
Well I asked for an oil/filter service, cambelt kit with original parts inc damper and a metal water pump change. He is a mechanic all the family use so I think he did it a little cheaper. I did not think it was a bad price so long as it was all done. Whats the easiest way to check people ? also is the aux belt hard to change ?

Thanks all
no it's easy mate but I'm a mechanic. Depends on how you are around an engine ??
Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: Wazzzer on 09 January 2010, 13:45
that price is good then mate. £15 should see you a belt
Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: Gozza on 09 January 2010, 13:46
Done a few bits in the past including headgaskets so have had my moments, bit concerning though as I thought that belt was a cambelt hehe :grin:

How long do you think it would take/cost, dont like the fact its so cracked  :shocked:

Thanks all  :wink:
Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: turboben on 09 January 2010, 14:09
will be easy to change would only cost about £10 - £15 for a belt, or take it to your family mechanic im sure he would fit it for free after doing that work on your car it only takes 2 mins to change, he would proberly feel guilty charging you i know i would for a 2 min job
Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: Gozza on 09 January 2010, 14:23
Thanks all, feel silly thinking that was the cambelt  :grin: Ah well ya live n learn eh hehe.

I may well try to get him to do it but may just do it myself, any guides on here. Will have a search in min ;)

Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: Dub-77 on 09 January 2010, 17:29
Done a few bits in the past including headgaskets so have had my moments, bit concerning though as I thought that belt was a cambelt hehe :grin:

How long do you think it would take/cost, dont like the fact its so cracked  :shocked:

Thanks all  :wink:
mate mine was 10x worse than that mine had chunks missing from it it was that cracked  :laugh:
Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 09 January 2010, 23:55
oem auxilary drivebelt is £20+ iirc when i had mine replaced easy enough job and easier if you had it replaced when you had your cambelt changed as for the cracking across the grooves of the belt thats perfectly normal as long as its not starting to split across etc etc i would imagine that the grooves would be 'polished' also due to age/wear vw dont actually specify a change interval afaik but for the minor cost its worthwhile imo as wes says this drives your aircon/power steering/alternator
Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: Gozza on 10 January 2010, 20:22
OK well the main belt is done I guess, although why VW did not change it at the 60k odd mile service I will never know.

Think I will leave that belt for the time being and wait til its a bit warmer at the very least, I don't remember being a fan of hitting things with cold knuckles whilst trying to undo tight bolts  :wink:
Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: Philpy on 11 January 2010, 10:58
they would not of replaced that belt if it goes in for a cam belt you get a cam belt and maybe tensioners not a auxillary belt, if it needed doing they proberly would of advised you get it done but would of not come in with the price


I know you dont get an auxillary belt in a cam belt kit, but I would like to think when he was in there and had the aux belt of he would of spoken to the owner and said, you aux belt is a bit cracked, its another £20 to do it, would you like me to change it.

Title: Re: Your opinion please
Post by: Rhyso on 11 January 2010, 11:32
they would not of replaced that belt if it goes in for a cam belt you get a cam belt and maybe tensioners not a auxillary belt, if it needed doing they proberly would of advised you get it done but would of not come in with the price


I know you dont get an auxillary belt in a cam belt kit, but I would like to think when he was in there and had the aux belt of he would of spoken to the owner and said, you aux belt is a bit cracked, its another £20 to do it, would you like me to change it.



moot point but when I had my cambelt changed at VW last year they noticed my aux belt was craking and replaced it FOC  :smiley:

At very least you should have been advised as to the state of it