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Title: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 12 October 2010, 23:24
Hey guys,

Right, as some may have seen, I got some RS6 rims a few weeks ago that have some pretty gnarly curbing on all of them (:(), but they were a good price, and I needed 4 wheels to put tyres on for my MOT last week.

So basically, I am trying to find out what stuff I need to refurb them! I have been looking at guides etc.. however I am struggling with what products to use, so if anyone can advise, that would be awesome :).

This is what I was thinking:

- Sand Paper: Halfords Project Pack (has various grades of sandpaper, but would 1200 be high enough? (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_181893_langId_-1_categoryId_165610)

- Halfords Filler Primer 500ml (not sure how many would be needed for 3 coats? on 4 wheels) (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_155241_langId_-1_categoryId_165495#dtab)

- Clear Lacquer 500ml (again, probably more than 1 can...) (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_203865_langId_-1_categoryId_165495)



Do these bits look ok? Or am I way off mark?, or can anyone recommend anything better? I am stuck for what to use to fill the curbing in though.. Guy in the thread I have linked below used some kind of filler, but then on page 2, someone commented saying Chemical metal is better.. I want something I can lay on and then sand back to get it nice and smooth! Any ideas?

http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=187250

I think that the general gist of a refurb is..

- Sand down/paint stripper all old paint/lacquer

- Lay some kind of filler on, wait to dry

- Sand filler down - what grade sand papers?!

- 3 coats of primer, sanding after coat 2 and after coat 3 with DRY 800 grit?

- lay on 3 coats of paint, sanding after coats 2 and 3 again? With 1200 grit WET?

- lay on 3 coats of lacquer

- Leave for at least 24 hours to dry properly

Think thats right? If not could someone advise?

Also seen that its a good idea to heat up the metal a bit with a hairdryer, and also put the spray cans in warm water before using them..

Will I have any problems doing this with tyres fitted? They are stretched a bit so masking them up will be piss easy, just wondered if any part of this process will damage/weaken the tyre, as I dont really want to mess about getting them removed and then put back on again!


Thanks for any additional advice/guidance that can be provided! I will likely give it a go on my old mk2's Steel wheel that I have sat in the shed first, or maybe do my standard audi wheels in a crazy colour to try it out :laugh:

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 12 October 2010, 23:49
i would like to know as well doing my TT comps soon as i can get some steelys to run on
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 12 October 2010, 23:51
i would like to know as well doing my TT comps soon as i can get some steelys to run on

Does my post make sense? Im knackered and feel it is a bit of a jumble :tongue: Hopefully someone can give us some tips :)

LL did tell me most stuff and some techniques, just looking for what products people would use!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 12 October 2010, 23:56
i would like to know as well doing my TT comps soon as i can get some steelys to run on

Does my post make sense? Im knackered and feel it is a bit of a jumble :tongue: Hopefully someone can give us some tips :)

LL did tell me most stuff and some techniques, just looking for what products people would use!

makes perfect sense to me but iam special lol from what ive read its sounds about right what you have put
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 13 October 2010, 00:08
i would like to know as well doing my TT comps soon as i can get some steelys to run on

Does my post make sense? Im knackered and feel it is a bit of a jumble :tongue: Hopefully someone can give us some tips :)

LL did tell me most stuff and some techniques, just looking for what products people would use!

makes perfect sense to me but iam special lol from what ive read its sounds about right what you have put

lol good stuff, cheers dude :)
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 13 October 2010, 01:00
(http://www.bostik.co.uk/global_assets/images/products/122_lge.jpg)

Go to a scrappy and buy the worst piece of sh*t alloy you can and practice on that with the filling, sanding and priming etc
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 13 October 2010, 07:54
Awesome, thanks dude! So this can deffo be sanded back?

I have an old MK2 Steelie that i'm going to practice on, hopefully that will be suitable! Its only been sat in my shed for about 2/3 years now!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: asif on 13 October 2010, 14:31
Wow you got some balls mate respect to you.

Sounds like a brill little project doing your own wheels.

How long would you have to wait between the coats of primer and spray our of interest?
Just trying to understand how long the whole process would take you.
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 13 October 2010, 15:12
Awesome, thanks dude! So this can deffo be sanded back?

I have an old MK2 Steelie that i'm going to practice on, hopefully that will be suitable! Its only been sat in my shed for about 2/3 years now!
Yes its very easy to use... its like working with plasticine  :smiley: very easy to sand too.  Plenty of other brands that do the same thing.
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 13 October 2010, 16:39
glad ya brought this thread/topic up mate, im doing my first wheel refurb and this thread is good!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 13 October 2010, 16:55
I think I mentioned to Dec about some other guides i had, here's one i found on my work Laptop..  This is good for repairs whilst still on the car rather than a full refurb but to be honest it applies to both and is a good write up with pics.

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/realwhda.html (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/realwhda.html)

Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 13 October 2010, 19:01
 :shocked:

Doing it on the car? No way am I doing that!

When I get around to doing this, (probably sometime in the next month), I'll try to get pics and stuff as I go along. If I can manage it, then anyone can, as I am the biggest dumbass around when it comes to painting stuff!


Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Thom89 on 13 October 2010, 19:15
Post some pics of the very worst of the damage, and I'll run you through what to do..
Thom
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 13 October 2010, 19:15
:shocked:

Doing it on the car? No way am I doing that!

When I get around to doing this, (probably sometime in the next month), I'll try to get pics and stuff as I go along. If I can manage it, then anyone can, as I am the biggest dumbass around when it comes to painting stuff!


same here when i do myn going to have them off a week or so i think as going to take my time with them last thing i sprayed was my bonnet

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/phxcxcoto.jpg) (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/photo-4.jpg)

Went ok saying i did it on the street but still need a fue nice coats when i can get in to my works area were we vinyl up vans so wont be any wind ill be happy lol
i am going to do myn in the garage so should be ok  :wink:
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 13 October 2010, 19:19
Yeah when I do mine im going to chuck my standard wheels on as they still have enough tread on them. Hopefully I will be able to prep them in the evenings after work, then get the majority of the spraying done, if not all of it done over a weekend or two! Got my grans garage to use (long as I cover her car up :lipsrsealed:) So will give it a go!

Post some pics of the very worst of the damage, and I'll run you through what to do..
Thom

Ah awesome! Will do thanks mate, too dark now and I havent been able to find my camera for months, so will get some tomorrow :smiley:




Soooo, is it possible to spray bumpers and such in the same way? :tongue:



(Joke, I tried getting a grill to match on my golf and I just couldnt get it right!)
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 13 October 2010, 19:21

Soooo, is it possible to spray bumpers and such in the same way? :tongue:


(Joke, I tried getting a grill to match on my golf and I just couldnt get it right!)

lol i did same with a badge less grill that's why just did bonnet in satin black lol
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Thom89 on 13 October 2010, 19:23
Wheels are easy, so long as you understand the process and order, to do the different stages in..
Thom.
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 13 October 2010, 19:35
Wheels are easy, so long as you understand the process and order, to do the different stages in..
Thom.

how much paint do you think you would need ? Cans etc
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 13 October 2010, 20:37
Wheels are easy, so long as you understand the process and order, to do the different stages in..
Thom.

Does what I listed in the original post look about right? Or any advances on it for a better finish? :)

Few pics of the wheels here if you can see the curbing :cry: It wasn't me though! I can drive :tongue:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dechill/sets/72157625157750726/

Couple are just scuffs on the outer bit of the lip, couple have bits further in.

The paint overall is pretty pants, so will need to strip all the paint off I think. If I use paint stripper, will it damage either the alloy or the tyre? (Will be masking the tyres up, but just incase..)
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: bmm on 13 October 2010, 21:04
I just stuck a few pics and words about my wheel refurb in my ride thread over here that might be of use:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=168952.msg1572657#msg1572657

Pretty much all the stuff I used I got from Halfords.  I spent extra for the enamel primer and colour but not entirely sure if it's worth it.  I used way, way, way more paint than I thought I would, so maybe factor that in - buy more than you think you need!  But yeah, it was a mix of the wet+dry sandpapers, then the usual primer, colour, lacquer and that was all there really was to it - I didn't attempt any curbing repair though.

Patience is probably the number one thing, a rushed job will show through especially if you hurry through some steps especially prep!  But it's so rewarding when it's done and they're on the car, so I'd say go for it  :cool:
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 13 October 2010, 21:09
Yeah just seen that dude! Watching your thread :)

Your refurb looks great! I just worry far too much about everything, and this is one of those things!

The bit that I'm going to worry about most is the masking up, paint removal (should i rub down, or paint stripper btw?) then the curbing repair. If I fook up the spraying, then I can always just keep trying it till I get it right! But the initial stripping is whats going to make me panic, as usually I wouldn't bother doing anything about them :embarassed: but I want to get them sorted out to look smarter!

Thanks for all the tips/guidance/help so far guys! Might go to halfords at the weekend and get a few of the bits I need to give it a go on my spare wheel :cool:
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: jeremybarker on 13 October 2010, 21:11
Hi Dec,

Just reading this post.

If it helps i didn't use any paint stripper on mine. I started with 60 grit sandpaper to cut through the lacquer and do most of the work, i then worked my way down until the primer on the wheel was nice and smooth. After this and making sure you clean every and i mean every bit of dust off, triple check this part, you then want to acid etch prime the wheels (Halfords £10.99 in the large metallic red tin) so the paint keys to the wheel properly. You can then paint normal primer over the top and carry on with the flatting process.

Any scuffs,dents or chips in the wheel were flattened (gently with a hammer) to remove any burrs and then filled with a metal filler (also in Halfords), then sanded to a flat finish before the etch primer went on.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=168372.0

HTH
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 13 October 2010, 21:15
Awesome! Thanks dude! From the looks of these wheels, they have had paint over paint, as they are a slightly darker silver/greyish than standard (which I like) but nowhere near as dark as anthracite :undecided: So I think it is going to take a lot of rubbing to get them down to the right level to be able to patch the curbing :sad:

Suppose all I can do now is give it a go! Tbh they are probably the easiest wheel to do this on as it is such a simple design :tongue:
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 13 October 2010, 21:24
I just stuck a few pics and words about my wheel refurb in my ride thread over here that might be of use:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=168952.msg1572657#msg1572657

Pretty much all the stuff I used I got from Halfords.  I spent extra for the enamel primer and colour but not entirely sure if it's worth it.  I used way, way, way more paint than I thought I would, so maybe factor that in - buy more than you think you need!  But yeah, it was a mix of the wet+dry sandpapers, then the usual primer, colour, lacquer and that was all there really was to it - I didn't attempt any curbing repair though.

Patience is probably the number one thing, a rushed job will show through especially if you hurry through some steps especially prep!  But it's so rewarding when it's done and they're on the car, so I'd say go for it  :cool:

they look good [thumbs up]
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: jeremybarker on 13 October 2010, 22:31
Pictures speak a thousand words let's see the damage and the rims overall.

For what it's worth I've never re-furbed a wheel in my life, this was my first go, no practice runs just straight onto the wheel, if I can make a half arsed job on the fiddley RA's you'll be fine.  :cool:
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 13 October 2010, 22:40
mine are foobards mix of curbing (previous owner) and lacquer pealing very old pics not even lowered so the lacquer peal is much worse
I am going to be doing them Black so i need to fill the curbs  :sick:

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo006_001.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo003_001.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo005_001-1.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo007_001-1.jpg)

Also sorry for hijacking  the thread saves me posting and asking the same questions  :tongue:
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 13 October 2010, 22:43
Don't say sorry lol, this is a general thread that hopefully may be of use to others :)

Few crappy pics of mine, will get close ups tomorrow..

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4152/5019949012_bf151dd154.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/5019343001_28eb942028.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/5019948942_afe5f473fc.jpg)



This one is the least damaged:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/5019342933_24acf27b9b.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 13 October 2010, 22:46
Oh, and they now have tyres on obv, so will need to do some masking work first. Tyres are slightly stretched so at least I have space to get between the rim and tyre!

Is masking tape and newspaper suitable, or will I need something more 'hardcore'?

Warning, mega huge pic (6.1mb) but its big enough to see the stretch :rolleyes:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/5025877156_68ee142fa3_o.jpg
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 13 October 2010, 22:47
clean your shoes lol  :grin: joking

how you refurbishing them ? colour or you just repairing then going le natural ?
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 13 October 2010, 22:49
clean your shoes lol  :grin: joking

how you refurbishing them ? colour or you just repairing then going le natural ?


 :tongue: They are the pics my mate sent me when he asked if I wanted to buy them, so not my shoes lol

Going to strip them all completely, repair the curbing, then try to match that colour as much as possible. I don't want a hugely bright silver, more of a slight grey but not as dark as anthracite :)
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 13 October 2010, 22:50
Oh, and they now have tyres on obv, so will need to do some masking work first. Tyres are slightly stretched so at least I have space to get between the rim and tyre!

Is masking tape and newspaper suitable, or will I need something more 'hardcore'?

Warning, mega huge pic (6.1mb) but its big enough to see the stretch :rolleyes:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/5025877156_68ee142fa3_o.jpg

i am leaving my tyers on as well trying to do it cheap as i can for now, so well just cost me for balancing when i have done them, what's best way to remove the weights on the wheels? can you just pull them off?
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 13 October 2010, 22:53
clean your shoes lol  :grin: joking

how you refurbishing them ? colour or you just repairing then going le natural ?


 :tongue: They are the pics my mate sent me when he asked if I wanted to buy them, so not my shoes lol

Going to strip them all completely, repair the curbing, then try to match that colour as much as possible. I don't want a hugely bright silver, more of a slight grey but not as dark as anthracite :)


should look tidy mate, i am only doing myn black because  . .black car going for the stealth look on the out side plus don't see as many black tt comps as you see Chromed
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 13 October 2010, 22:56
Yeah will look sweet dude :) Had black wheels on my mk3, don't need much cleaning :tongue:

Not sure on the weights, I will be leaving mine on as Im not touching the back of the wheel, just doing the face :undecided: My mate fitted my tyres and balanced them so not sure on how much it is to fit them either, sorry dude
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 13 October 2010, 23:19
Yeah will look sweet dude :) Had black wheels on my mk3, don't need much cleaning :tongue:

Not sure on the weights, I will be leaving mine on as Im not touching the back of the wheel, just doing the face :undecided: My mate fitted my tyres and balanced them so not sure on how much it is to fit them either, sorry dude

Well having the face and half way inside of the alloy black them the last half on the inside red so taking the weights off  place round corner its £5 a tyre for balancing
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: new(ish)dubber on 14 October 2010, 00:38
i've got some ats cups i'm refurbing at the moment, the dish is coming up alright with wet and try but there's a few nasty scratches around the very edge of the lip. what sort of filler can i use for this that i can sand down afterwards but leave bare? some sort of liquid metal ?
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 14 October 2010, 16:52
Right, so just taken some close ups of the curbing. Having looked at them again (and while they are dry and clean :lipsrsealed:) I don't think that the curbing will be too hard to fill on the most part, and will only need a small about (or I don't think they will need much except some patches).

Anyway so here are the pics...

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/5080909383_8c2e924e3e.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4153/5081502972_cde99dce2b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/5080908577_a76d6f2628.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/5081502336_dde6e62e78.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/5080907999_33f9465d29.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4085/5081501766_1139fea034.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/5080907331_a7e3201252.jpg)



They have obviously had a poor refurb in the past as the paint is flaking off/chipped in places:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/5081503278_8130ca00d8.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/5080909743_6053349f80.jpg)

Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: jeremybarker on 14 October 2010, 17:19
They don't look too hard to do tbh, i'd set about flatting the whole wheel down until you have a nice smooth surface overall and so the filler has a nice key. Filler over all the scuffs and flat them back down again. It's always worth spraying a bit of primer over to see if they have been sanded smoothly. Don't do what i did and forget there was a hammer on the shelf above where i was painting as after i had finished the lacquering the damn hammer fell onto the wheel face and put three small dints in it :) Good job i'm changing the colour.
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 14 October 2010, 17:52
What grade sand paper would you recommend to use to get a smooth enough but still keyed finish? :smiley:

Knowing me I would go up to 1200 or something and I dont think the primer would stick to that? So guessing around 600?
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: jeremybarker on 14 October 2010, 19:56
1200-1500 is exactly what you want to finish off with, the acid etch primer will adhere fine to a smoothed surface.

I started off with 80 grit to get into the top layerr of lacquer/paint and then progressively worked my way upto 1200 to finish off.

What i would say is once i had a decent finish the 1200 was done as a wet and dry process, it helps get the perfectly flat finish. This is where nearly all of the prep time is spent and you need to keep checking the finish is spot on. After you've finished flatting/wet and dry sanding the final primer coat there's no going back when you put the first colour coat on, it'll show up any scratch surfaces that you didn't smooth out properly.

Just take you're time and if you start to think you rushing the job, walk away and leave it a little while.

HTH
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: dom on 15 October 2010, 10:13
If you can wait a couple of days for your lacquer then i'd get this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180530500150&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180530500150&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT)

Works out much cheaper than halfords (you get 1500ml for £14.10 whereas halfords you get 1000ml for £13.98)!

My dad has bought and used this on his car, whereas I used halfords lacquer on mine, little difference between them, if anything the eBay stuff applied better!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 15 October 2010, 10:19
Ah awesome! Thanks dude! Im in no hurry, don't think I will get a chance to properly tackle all 4 at the same time till sometime in November, however I might give it a go on a spare wheel first so will just get the halfords stuff for quickness :)


How does wet and dry work? Is it better to use it wet? Or should you use it dry first then wet etc..?

Also I read that you shouldnt use wet on primer as primer absorbs moisture?

 :rolleyes: Really silly questions lol sorry guys!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: jeremybarker on 15 October 2010, 13:18
Told you i hadn't done this before.

When i wet sanded the final primer coat i had two containers with water in, one to wet the sandpaper and the other one the dip to rinse residue.

Because of the time i was wet sanding (early hours of the morning) I had all four wheels in the house (heating on) overnight so I would hazard an educated guess and say that this was sufficient to dry them out properly.
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 16 October 2010, 22:26
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?3156862

Dec saw this and thought of you mate
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 17 October 2010, 04:23
Awesome! Thanks dude, that is a pretty sweet write up! That metal filler stuff looks pretty cool, hope I can manage to pull this off :tongue: I was thinking about it earlier, and tbh they can't get any worse even if I do do a shoddy job of the paint, they're really piss poor when looking closely lol
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 17 October 2010, 10:22
Lol thats what i was thinkn even just sanding them down well make myn look 100% better lol
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: FOREST GREEN on 17 October 2010, 11:03
I'm about to do another set (BBS this time). Here's my first attempt with step by step pics and explanations if its any good to you!! The wheels are still in perfect nic now!! Thats why I'm going to attempt the BBS's (going for all black with polished lip this time!!!)

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=147377.0

Hope it helps  :wink:
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 17 October 2010, 12:40
Just started the priming on my first one this morning!
Rubbing down and filling went well!!!
Enjoying it so far!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 17 October 2010, 12:58
Just started the priming on my first one this morning!
Rubbing down and filling went well!!!
Enjoying it so far!

Hope i enjoy doing myn lol
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 17 October 2010, 19:17
Been washing the car today well over due, so thought i would show the two worse as you can see there fooked the lacquers just naked the other two are just curbed and there only just starting to lose the lacquer , really makes the car look poo cant wait to do them.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/ph41451oto.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/phot156161o.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 17 October 2010, 19:25
Christ, they are pretty bad mate!!
Finished the base colour for my wheels, now the funkiness comes tomoz!!
Turned out really well! Few pits I've missed but not noticeable!
All the better when my landlord goes...
"that's a nice wheel, is it new?"
:D
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 17 October 2010, 19:41
Christ, they are pretty bad mate!!
Finished the base colour for my wheels, now the funkiness comes tomoz!!
Turned out really well! Few pits I've missed but not noticeable!
All the better when my landlord goes...
"that's a nice wheel, is it new?"
:D

lol i know been getting worse ever since i got the car 10 months ago  :undecided:

Sound like your happy with them well have to post some pics so can see the finished product lol
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 17 October 2010, 20:08
Well they will be a bit on the funky side, sure there will be plenty of haters :D
But I wanted something subtle but funky!!
Sure pics will be up tomoz or day after!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 17 October 2010, 20:22
Well they will be a bit on the funky side, sure there will be plenty of haters :D
But I wanted something subtle but funky!!
Sure pics will be up tomoz or day after!

something different then ? me like different
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 17 October 2010, 20:33
Yep!
Not even sure in gonna sure I'm gonna li it :D
Just a bit of fun ain't it!!
Can soon be changed!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 17 October 2010, 20:53
Yep!
Not even sure in gonna sure I'm gonna li it :D
Just a bit of fun ain't it!!
Can soon be changed!

True True i ve been playing with the idea of having the faces black and the inners gunmetal or red or just all black, looking forward to seeing yours mate
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 17 October 2010, 21:08
Yeah can't wait myself!!
The mrs made me stop when it went dark cos she didn't want me ruining it!
I have been known to keep going through the night when I'm onto something!! :D
Not in work till 11 tomoz so got the morning to do the funk :D
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 18 October 2010, 22:57
Pretty nervous about doing mine, but just have to think that they can't be any worse than they are at the moment, so suppose I won't be at a loss even if I did have to take them to get done properly! Rather save myself some cash though :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 18 October 2010, 23:24
Well the funk has been done, lacquering tomoz then it's on the car!! Yay
Well happy so far!!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 18 October 2010, 23:26
Well the funk has been done, lacquering tomoz then it's on the car!! Yay
Well happy so far!!
Preview :grin:
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: jeremybarker on 18 October 2010, 23:27
Hi all,

Just as a note, once I had lacquered mine I was unsure about the best way to put a shine on the finished wheel as the lacquered finish was a bit rough and had a nice fine orange peel. I didn't want to wet sand the lacquer just in case it went wrong so I used a cutting compound to start with and finished off with a resin polish and the lacquer came up a treat, all the roughness completely gone, orange peel gone and left it with a very smooth shiney surface.

Once there on the car i'll post a picture, should be going on Friday once the new BBS centre caps arrive :)
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: jeremybarker on 18 October 2010, 23:28
Don't be shy, get some pics up on the work so far :)
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 19 October 2010, 06:45
What cutting compound did you use?
Cos that is my biggest worry!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 19 October 2010, 07:07
Okies, but they are gonna get a mixed reaction!
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/robz88/f181196b.jpg)
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/robz88/17dc6063.jpg)
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/robz88/31077da5.jpg)
Apologies for the poor pics, iPhone!!
Will get proper camera pics once I've finished!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: jeremybarker on 19 October 2010, 09:57
I used what i had lying around so it was just some Autoglym but it did the job fine with a few goes round followed by a normal polish.

Thumbs up for being different on the wheels.
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 19 October 2010, 10:35
think ive fallen in love with the satin black!!
really happy with the paint finish!
just wanted something different, can easily be changed, because lets face it, they arent difficult wheels to do! didnt envy you with yours lol!
so super resin polish gonna be enough???
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: jeremybarker on 19 October 2010, 10:51
The first Autoglym stuff i used was a t-cut / cutting polish then followed by a normal resin polish. I'm sure something like G4 compound would be faster but i used what i had as Halfords was closed at midnight  :smiley:.

Did you read the post i put up about re-furbing the RA's, be really careful when you apply the lacquer as it is very easy to over egg it and get yourself a load of runs. Make the first coat a very light one and leave it 15 mins before applying the second. I used a hairdryer to put some heat onto the paint before i applied the lacquer, not that i know what i'm doing but the theory was that it might help the lacquer adhere better and reduce the chance of flaking at a later stage.
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 19 October 2010, 10:52
Okies, but they are gonna get a mixed reaction!
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/robz88/f181196b.jpg)
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/robz88/17dc6063.jpg)
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/robz88/31077da5.jpg)
Apologies for the poor pics, iPhone!!
Will get proper camera pics once I've finished!

I love them seen someone with orange splats on. Love them
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 19 October 2010, 12:18
Yeah, kinda stole his idea!!!! Lol
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 19 October 2010, 12:44
Yeah, kinda stole his idea!!!! Lol

In my opinion looks well smart nice contrast should do you door mirrors in the same colour
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 19 October 2010, 14:13
lol!
cheers m8, will see how they look on, then it may be another good idea!!!!!!! :D
was gonna put more colours like dark purple and blues, but did that colour and liked it, so left it at that!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: dweb1989 on 20 October 2010, 17:03
Love the idea.

But why would you use lacquer on satin paint?  :huh:

Sort of defeats the objective!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 20 October 2010, 18:25
Tbh mate, not sure, they have been satin blacked before and it hadn't lasted long so thought I would try and seal it???
But may try with out for a while!!!
Hopefully it will last!!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: dweb1989 on 20 October 2010, 18:46
Yeah i get what you're saying, it would just take that semi gloss effect away.

Tough decision!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 20 October 2010, 19:04
Well just had a play, and water started taking the splashes of paint off, with it only being acrylic!!
So will start the lacquering tomoz, no desperatly after a satin look, but it's a good base!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 21 October 2010, 19:15
i ve sprayed my bonnet with matt black and i am going to be lacquering it as soon as i get the last coat on for protection, well still look a bit matt but really takes the matt look away which i am a bit  :undecided: about but it  well match my wing mirrors as there matt black and lacquered.
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 21 October 2010, 20:20
Quick update on mine, did lacquer the wheel, went really well, has made a beautiful colour of the satin black and purple!
Unfortunately my hut collapsed and has scratched the paint down to primer :(
But ya can't tell too much so I'll sort that later!
Need to get the tyre pumped up and onto the car it goes!!
As far as the experience goes - the spraying is a technique ya get used too,
Make a safe hut lol
And take your time with the prep, it's all worth it!!!
1 down, 4 to go!! Lol
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 21 October 2010, 20:54
Quick update on mine, did lacquer the wheel, went really well, has made a beautiful colour of the satin black and purple!
Unfortunately my hut collapsed and has scratched the paint down to primer :(
But ya can't tell too much so I'll sort that later!
Need to get the tyre pumped up and onto the car it goes!!
As far as the experience goes - the spraying is a technique ya get used too,
Make a safe hut lol
And take your time with the prep, it's all worth it!!!
1 down, 4 to go!! Lol

Unlucky mate "my hut " lol sorry but thats class  :smiley: hope you haven't done to much damaged.
I am going to do myn in the garage making a temp "Hut"  :grin: in there going to use my weight bench, table, extractor for the dust/spray and PVC sheat and tarpolin. jobs a good one . . . . . lol
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 21 October 2010, 21:01
Lol
Yeah, landlord still has lots of sh!t in my shed, so making do so I can get 2 wheels done for the calendar!
sh!t happens doesn't it, it ca easily be sorted!!
But I'm over the moon with the result!
When ya doing yours?
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 21 October 2010, 21:11
Lol
Yeah, landlord still has lots of sh!t in my shed, so making do so I can get 2 wheels done for the calendar!
sh!t happens doesn't it, it ca easily be sorted!!
But I'm over the moon with the result!
When ya doing yours?

As soon as i can get some Steele or some cheap alloys[£30 lol] going to start going to take my time on prep and sorting out the curbing etc . going to do something a bit different not just black now. i got a idea in my head think ill keep it under my hat so its a nice surprise for all lol
involves black red or cream and a patten.

Need the diameter of the inside of a tt completion alloy   :smug:
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 21 October 2010, 21:16
Sounds interesting mate, keep me and this lot upto date!!! ;)
Well this is the latest of mine, don't think ya can spot the scratch!!
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/robz88/447dd868.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 21 October 2010, 21:21
Really like them, really do look well can't wait till there on your car, hope myn turn out that well
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 21 October 2010, 21:26
Cheers pal. Hoping people like em, but I'm happy so suppose that's what matters :D
Need to get centre caps cos think I only have 2? The others were broken when I bought em :( probably cos they are a pain to get on and off!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 21 October 2010, 21:32
Cheers pal. Hoping people like em, but I'm happy so suppose that's what matters :D
Need to get centre caps cos think I only have 2? The others were broken when I bought em :( probably cos they are a pain to get on and off!

if you like them that's all that matters , just better when other people like them [me] lol centre caps would look good
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 21 October 2010, 21:43
Will get some done at weekend and see if they go on!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Andy-H on 21 October 2010, 21:48
Looking really good Mate :afro:
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 21 October 2010, 21:55
Cheers pal!
Wanna hit PVC show with style next year ;)
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: jeremybarker on 21 October 2010, 22:21
Dare to be different, i think you've done a cracking job, nice work  :laugh:

Made me laugh about your hut, easy to repair though. I did something similar on mine, didn't realise there was a pin hammer on the shelf above and the sodding thing dropped onto the rim whilst i was waiting for the lacquer to dry. Plus on top of this my 2 year old daughter decided to bang a key on another of the wheels and dented the paint in three places  :grin:
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 22 October 2010, 18:30
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/robz88/970d7755.jpg)
One finished!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: asif on 23 October 2010, 00:15
Mate is that one of the rims you have refurbed? Fook me hey are different and look awesome, can't wait to see how they look on the car.
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 23 October 2010, 07:41
Cheers pal yes it is!!
Just about to start the next one lol ;)
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 23 October 2010, 10:38
well impressed mate.
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 23 October 2010, 11:35
Cheers mate!!
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 29 December 2010, 00:28
did you get them all done mate?
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 29 December 2010, 06:55
Mine?? :)
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: Dec on 29 December 2010, 08:47
Robz yours look good in that pic you posted! Hadn't noticed it :embarassed:

Roll on the decent weather, want to get mine done but cba while the weathers pants! Might get some new wheels next year anyway, so will refurb these for next winter :smiley:
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 29 December 2010, 09:34
well ive got 2 done, but as dec said, ive done nothing more thanlots of filling on the other 3, lol!
no point trying to do anything in this weathe, the paint just blooms!! :(
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 29 December 2010, 13:49
well ive got 2 done, but as dec said, ive done nothing more thanlots of filling on the other 3, lol!
no point trying to do anything in this weathe, the paint just blooms!! :(

true true ill let you off them lol  :laugh:
looking forward to seeing them on your car matei
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 29 December 2010, 14:33
well ya saw it on the calendar didnt ya...?
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: godsANGER on 29 December 2010, 15:24
well ya saw it on the calendar didnt ya...?

not got round to getting one yet matie  :undecided:
Title: Re: Wheel Refurbing Questions!
Post by: robz on 29 December 2010, 15:26
July, mk3 calendar ;) :D