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Title: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 25 November 2014, 17:58
After some new alloys to replace my 17inch monzas. I know the cheaper ones are going to be replica, but whats the disadvantages of going this route?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-18-VW-GOLF-MONZA-2-BLACK-SHADOW-ALLOYs-MK5-MK6-MK7-GTi-TDi-REFURBED-/161472955385?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET&hash=item259889c3f9

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18-GTI-MONZA-2-ALLOY-WHEELS-VW-GOLF-MK5-MK6-TDI-FSI/281380078180?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D28111%26meid%3D25d7a95b7f584aefad58d5b7edea65db%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D11472%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D161472955385&rt=nc

Many thanks.


Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: dubber36 on 25 November 2014, 18:10
From experience, replica wheels are much heavier than original wheels and will have a noticeable effect on performance, ride and handling. They are also likely to suffer from surface corrosion no matter how well you maintain them. Then there is the issue of them looking different. Have a look at them compared to original ones and there are differences. Those that know (including you) will know they are fake and to me, that spoils a really nice car.

They is a set of brand new genuine Monza Shadows for sale in the classifieds on here that might be worth a look.

www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=271339.0  It's the worst add ever, but knowing the seller from when he was on here with his Mk6, they will be what he says they are.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 25 November 2014, 18:25
From experience, replica wheels are much heavier than original wheels and will have a noticeable effect on performance, ride and handling. They are also likely to suffer from surface corrosion no matter how well you maintain them. Then there is the issue of them looking different. Have a look at them compared to original ones and there are differences. Those that know (including you) will know they are fake and to me, that spoils a really nice car.

They is a set of brand new genuine Monza Shadows for sale in the classifieds on here that might be worth a look.

www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=271339.0  It's the worst add ever, but knowing the seller from when he was on here with his Mk6, they will be what he says they are.

Your so handy man! Thanks, im abit of cheap skate, since im a student...

Also, tyres... Looking at Nankang Eco 2's... on wheelbasealloys there have a Wet weather rating of C and Fuel C with 72Db... decent for the price, but no doubt they'll have some faults? Longevity etc?

Thanks for the help
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: hef on 27 November 2014, 13:50
From experience, replica wheels are much heavier than original wheels and will have a noticeable effect on performance, ride and handling. They are also likely to suffer from surface corrosion no matter how well you maintain them. Then there is the issue of them looking different. Have a look at them compared to original ones and there are differences. Those that know (including you) will know they are fake and to me, that spoils a really nice car.

They is a set of brand new genuine Monza Shadows for sale in the classifieds on here that might be worth a look.

www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=271339.0  It's the worst add ever, but knowing the seller from when he was on here with his Mk6, they will be what he says they are.

Your so handy man! Thanks, im abit of cheap skate, since im a student...

Also, tyres... Looking at Nankang Eco 2's... on wheelbasealloys there have a Wet weather rating of C and Fuel C with 72Db... decent for the price, but no doubt they'll have some faults? Longevity etc?

Thanks for the help

nankang's are awful tyres from experience. just look at the reviews.

I'm about to purchase Vredestein Ultrac Vorti's. Really under-rated tyre...and at £80 a corner for 225/40/18 I can't complain. They're better than goodyear eagle f1's apparently
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: JayGTD on 27 November 2014, 14:08
From experience, replica wheels are much heavier than original wheels and will have a noticeable effect on performance, ride and handling. They are also likely to suffer from surface corrosion no matter how well you maintain them. Then there is the issue of them looking different. Have a look at them compared to original ones and there are differences. Those that know (including you) will know they are fake and to me, that spoils a really nice car.

They is a set of brand new genuine Monza Shadows for sale in the classifieds on here that might be worth a look.

www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=271339.0  It's the worst add ever, but knowing the seller from when he was on here with his Mk6, they will be what he says they are.

Your so handy man! Thanks, im abit of cheap skate, since im a student...

Also, tyres... Looking at Nankang Eco 2's... on wheelbasealloys there have a Wet weather rating of C and Fuel C with 72Db... decent for the price, but no doubt they'll have some faults? Longevity etc?

Thanks for the help

nankang's are awful tyres from experience. just look at the reviews.

I'm about to purchase Vredestein Ultrac Vorti's. Really under-rated tyre...and at £80 a corner for 225/40/18 I can't complain. They're better than goodyear eagle f1's apparently

+1 for Vredesteins, my next set when I need em or when I finally decide to get after market wheels are gonna be Vredestein ultrac sessantas. Cheap as chips and completely under-rated
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 27 November 2014, 17:25
From experience, replica wheels are much heavier than original wheels and will have a noticeable effect on performance, ride and handling. They are also likely to suffer from surface corrosion no matter how well you maintain them. Then there is the issue of them looking different. Have a look at them compared to original ones and there are differences. Those that know (including you) will know they are fake and to me, that spoils a really nice car.

They is a set of brand new genuine Monza Shadows for sale in the classifieds on here that might be worth a look.

www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=271339.0  It's the worst add ever, but knowing the seller from when he was on here with his Mk6, they will be what he says they are.

Your so handy man! Thanks, im abit of cheap skate, since im a student...

Also, tyres... Looking at Nankang Eco 2's... on wheelbasealloys there have a Wet weather rating of C and Fuel C with 72Db... decent for the price, but no doubt they'll have some faults? Longevity etc?

Thanks for the help

nankang's are awful tyres from experience. just look at the reviews.

I'm about to purchase Vredestein Ultrac Vorti's. Really under-rated tyre...and at £80 a corner for 225/40/18 I can't complain. They're better than goodyear eagle f1's apparently

+1 for Vredesteins, my next set when I need em or when I finally decide to get after market wheels are gonna be Vredestein ultrac sessantas. Cheap as chips and completely under-rated
Ah sh!te, well i went ahead and got the Nankangs today... hadn't seen this... To be honest, the road noise is very minimal and im quite impressed with them right now... having only done around 50 miles or so i can't give a full verdict but we'll see.

But anyway, heres a pic of the alloys i got!!

(http://IMG_0359.JPG)
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 27 November 2014, 17:27
actually how do i add photos...

Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 27 November 2014, 17:27
IMG_0359.JPG
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 27 November 2014, 17:27
hmmmm
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 27 November 2014, 17:28
(http://IMG_0359.JPG)
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 27 November 2014, 17:29
given up  :sad:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: dubber36 on 27 November 2014, 20:03
Upload them into photobucket, then copy the Image tag into the text in your post.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 27 November 2014, 20:52
thanks hopefully this works...

(http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Harry_Norman/media/IMG_0359_zps9f04110b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 27 November 2014, 20:53
http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Harry_Norman/media/IMG_0359_zps9f04110b.jpg.html
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 27 November 2014, 20:54
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/Harry_Norman/IMG_0359_zps9f04110b.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Harry_Norman/media/IMG_0359_zps9f04110b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 27 November 2014, 20:55
got it!! finally, after much trial and error.

thanks dubber
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 27 November 2014, 21:07
Like them  :cool:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 27 November 2014, 21:13
Like them  :cool:

Yay... oh yeah, remember when i was asking about cleaning exhaust tips... well... my black filthy ones have kind of grown on me now hah... so i think i might keep them like that... much to your annoyance? heh  :grin:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 27 November 2014, 21:25
Like them  :cool:

Yay... oh yeah, remember when i was asking about cleaning exhaust tips... well... my black filthy ones have kind of grown on me now hah... so i think i might keep them like that... much to your annoyance? heh  :grin:

If your're happy with filthy sooty pipes, who am I to argue......








Get 'em cleaned  :kiss:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 27 November 2014, 22:02
Like them  :cool:

Yay... oh yeah, remember when i was asking about cleaning exhaust tips... well... my black filthy ones have kind of grown on me now hah... so i think i might keep them like that... much to your annoyance? heh  :grin:

If your're happy with filthy sooty pipes, who am I to argue......








Get 'em cleaned  :kiss:

Ah i'd like them 'clean' but wondering what they'd look like powder coated in black now.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 27 November 2014, 22:42
...wondering what they'd look like powder coated in black now.

Sounds like that's what you've already got  :grin:

Could be a good look on CSG.   If you did, how about some black rear/front VW badges to tie the look together?
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 27 November 2014, 23:02
...wondering what they'd look like powder coated in black now.

Sounds like that's what you've already got  :grin:

Could be a good look on CSG.   If you did, how about some black rear/front VW badges to tie the look together?

I'll get a pic up tomorrow and hopefully i'll sway you...  :smug: Hmm i've always liked the shiny VW badges but im thinking about getting the grill done in black... not sure yet... and maybe those JDM yellow fog light covers... only a fiver or something.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 27 November 2014, 23:10
I could be swayed.  I have a real soft spot for the yellow fogs on certain colours   :drool:

Do you mean lower fog light grille?

Now you mastered posting pics  :wink:  put some more up   :smiley:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 27 November 2014, 23:20
I could be swayed.  I have a real soft spot for the yellow fogs on certain colours   :drool:

Do you mean lower fog light grille?

Now you mastered posting pics  :wink:  put some more up   :smiley:

Yeah i do like them, there cheap so nothing to lose really, i'll order some anyway.

I mean the red strips either side of the VW Badge... if thats what you were wanting clarified?  :huh:
thinking black... but then i do like the original looking red... decisions

Ah i promised myself alloys and xenons would be it aesthetically!!! Doesn't look like it'll end there however...

Yeah i will, unfortunately there aren't many decent photogenic backgrounds up here in manchester, but when im back down in kent i'll take some goodens.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 27 November 2014, 23:31
Dunno about black stripes  :undecided:  they look good on candy white with other black accents but on a csg??

I'd have thought Manchester had some great architectural/industrial backdrops for car photos.  Though I hail from Yorkshire, lived in Lancashire for 6 years and used to go to Manchester regularly and remember the architecture well.

Whereabouts in Kent?  Still to find a truly inspiring backdrop round these parts.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 27 November 2014, 23:37
Dunno about black stripes  :undecided:  they look good on candy white with other black accents but on a csg??

I'd have thought Manchester had some great architectural/industrial backdrops for car photos.  Though I hail from Yorkshire, lived in Lancashire for 6 years and used to go to Manchester regularly and remember the architecture well.

Whereabouts in Kent?  Still to find a truly inspiring backdrop round these parts.

Actually i saw on a US thread a GTI with Chrome strips... (like the GTD) with Monza Shadows in CSG... that looked nice but a little too smart dare i say?
 
It does... but with my southern accent and shiny car i make an easy target in those very out the way vacant architectural locations unfortunately... haha. Kidding, obviously, but yeah im sure there are some nice ones, been here 4 years... i should probably know.

Tunbridge wells, around there, my times split between the two (student). Go to the white cliffs! Or devils d**e (i think its called), havent been in years but from what i remember it'd make for a half decent location. Ashdown forest in the right weather might be nice as well.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 27 November 2014, 23:50
Chrome stripes maybe too slick as you say.

White cliffs eh, I forgot about those.  Or maybe in front of that big church in Canterbury too, if only you were allowed to park in there  :laugh:

Your softy Kentish accent not gone a little northern round the edges yet?  I'm doing everything I can to hang onto my northern lilt but a starting to notice a little too much southern is creeping in, it must be stopped  :cry:  :grin:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 28 November 2014, 00:02
Chrome stripes maybe too slick as you say.

White cliffs eh, I forgot about those.  Or maybe in front of that big church in Canterbury too, if only you were allowed to park in there  :laugh:

Your softy Kentish accent not gone a little northern round the edges yet?  I'm doing everything I can to hang onto my northern lilt but a starting to notice a little too much southern is creeping in, it must be stopped  :cry:  :grin:

Hmm yeah, or just take a trip to paris for the day and rock up infront of the arc de triumph at night? your car would gleam!

No afraid not, apparently its still very noticeable... took a trip to Bolton the other day and my friend jokingly said i shouldnt open my mouth whilst there... however i feel as though he was being a little genuine as well...

Ah well soon you'll be pronouncing Baaath, Graaass, Garaaage...... not Garidge...  :smug: :smug:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 28 November 2014, 00:07
Maybe your mate had a point  :grin:

Not a chance of me ever pronouning like that.  In fact I've subliminaly managed to get my 8 year old daughter pronouncing those words northern stylee, much to her Canterbury born dad's annoyance  :grin:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: JayGTD on 28 November 2014, 10:12
Good choice of wheels mate!
Them bbs fi's always remind me of this particular car. One of my favourite mk6's

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/10353393_10152757155964878_5839695203152535873_o.jpg)

Then he even got em done bronze! Even better!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10648313_10152757156319878_6608601568243190501_o.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10688198_10152757156339878_7002944605281888767_o.jpg)

(https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/10603878_10152757156469878_4374243659979067832_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 28 November 2014, 11:22
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10648313_10152757156319878_6608601568243190501_o.jpg)

I love that.  Those bronze BBS (RI-Ds?) are :drool:

Yabot, bronze and CSG is a winning combination  :whistle:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: JayGTD on 28 November 2014, 15:30
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10648313_10152757156319878_6608601568243190501_o.jpg)

I love that.  Those bronze BBS (RI-Ds?) are :drool:

Yabot, bronze and CSG is a winning combination  :whistle:

BBS f1/fi depending where you're from! Inspired by the OEM wheels on the Lexus LFA. Gorgeous set of wheels, especially when on a BMW. I have a soft spot for bronze wheels - looking at a set of bronze ones myself!
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 28 November 2014, 17:32
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/Harry_Norman/7269287382_19955cfc8d_b_zps6f792f46.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Harry_Norman/media/7269287382_19955cfc8d_b_zps6f792f46.jpg.html)

I do like this shade of Bronze.... not quite as bright as the ones you just posted but still there.... STOP TEMPTING ME GUYS  :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 28 November 2014, 17:59
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/Harry_Norman/IMG_0358_zps6395a7f9.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Harry_Norman/media/IMG_0358_zps6395a7f9.jpg.html)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/Harry_Norman/IMG_0377_zps6d95d2b1.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Harry_Norman/media/IMG_0377_zps6d95d2b1.jpg.html)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/Harry_Norman/IMG_0378_zpsa216c4a8.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Harry_Norman/media/IMG_0378_zpsa216c4a8.jpg.html)

Heres all my pics so far... Not the best i know. Booth... you like my black exhaust tips?  :grin: :grin:

Fitting Xenons this weekend too!!!
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 28 November 2014, 20:35
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/Harry_Norman/IMG_0358_zps6395a7f9.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Harry_Norman/media/IMG_0358_zps6395a7f9.jpg.html)

Heres all my pics so far... Not the best i know. Booth... you like my black exhaust tips?  :grin: :grin:

Fitting Xenons this weekend too!!!

Yeahhh, looking good, coming along really well  :cool: 

I like your alloys a lot, but is that a clip on wheel weight on the outer rim I spy??  Nooo.

It would suit black exhaust tips but proper ones as opposed to a layer of grime, that's taking modding on a budget just a bit too far  :tongue:  but if you're keeping chrome badges, not so sure, probably stick with chrome pipes.  But what do I know, my cars just bog standard  :embarrassed:

You need yellow fogs in your life (and bronze wheels)   :laugh:  I like both bronzes but prefer the brighter ones, they're something special.

And xenons next......
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 28 November 2014, 21:11
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/Harry_Norman/IMG_0358_zps6395a7f9.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Harry_Norman/media/IMG_0358_zps6395a7f9.jpg.html)

Heres all my pics so far... Not the best i know. Booth... you like my black exhaust tips?  :grin: :grin:

Fitting Xenons this weekend too!!!

Yeahhh, looking good, coming along really well  :cool: 

I like your alloys a lot, but is that a clip on wheel weight on the outer rim I spy??  Nooo.

It would suit black exhaust tips but proper ones as opposed to a layer of grime, that's taking modding on a budget just a bit too far  :tongue:  but if you're keeping chrome badges, not so sure, probably stick with chrome pipes.  But what do I know, my cars just bog standard  :embarrassed:

You need yellow fogs in your life (and bronze wheels)   :laugh:  I like both bronzes but prefer the brighter ones, they're something special.

And xenons next......

No sure what a wheel weight is? As in to balance them? Or displaying the wheel weight...

Yeah i think i might keep the black exhaust... and maybe the layer of grim (student budget  :grin:).

I think i'd probably keep the ones i've got, not sure i want to stand out too much with bronze alloys etc.
Will 100% be ordering those fogs, i think it'll be a nice touch. And yes xenons are going on either tomorrow or sunday so watch this space!  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 28 November 2014, 22:09
No sure what a wheel weight is? As in to balance them? Or displaying the wheel weight...

Yeah i think i might keep the black exhaust... and maybe the layer of grim (student budget  :grin:).

I think i'd probably keep the ones i've got, not sure i want to stand out too much with bronze alloys etc.
Will 100% be ordering those fogs, i think it'll be a nice touch. And yes xenons are going on either tomorrow or sunday so watch this space!  :laugh: :laugh:

Yeah, a balancing weight.  Is that what's on your outer rim?  The adhesive type that stick on the inside of the wheel (preferably hidden behind the spokes) are the most discreet.

No bronze :cry: :cry: :grin:  Your's look sweet as they are  :cool:

Hope the weather holds for your weekend xenon mission  :smiley:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 28 November 2014, 22:20
No sure what a wheel weight is? As in to balance them? Or displaying the wheel weight...

Yeah i think i might keep the black exhaust... and maybe the layer of grim (student budget  :grin:).

I think i'd probably keep the ones i've got, not sure i want to stand out too much with bronze alloys etc.
Will 100% be ordering those fogs, i think it'll be a nice touch. And yes xenons are going on either tomorrow or sunday so watch this space!  :laugh: :laugh:

Yeah, a balancing weight.  Is that what's on your outer rim?  The adhesive type that stick on the inside of the wheel (preferably hidden behind the spokes) are the most discreet.

No bronze :cry: :cry: :grin:  Your's look sweet as they are  :cool:

Hope the weather holds for your weekend xenon mission  :smiley:

Ah no, i dont think they are, havent had a real close look but i think i know what you mean and i dont think thats them.

Hope it does too, if not it'll be an inside job :(.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 November 2014, 15:55
Yeah i think i might keep the black exhaust... and maybe the layer of grim (student budget  :grin:).

Yabot, I polished my tailpipes today, so just to remind you what clean ones look like I took a photo for you...

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8660/15905754455_62e0242dc7_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/booth11/15905754455/)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8672/15286179353_8c82fc4019_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/booth11/15286179353/)

...Sorry, couldn't resist  :grin:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 29 November 2014, 18:00
Yeah i think i might keep the black exhaust... and maybe the layer of grim (student budget  :grin:).

Yabot, I polished my tailpipes today, so just to remind you what clean ones look like I took a photo for you...

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8660/15905754455_62e0242dc7_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/booth11/15905754455/)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8672/15286179353_8c82fc4019_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/booth11/15286179353/)

...Sorry, couldn't resist  :grin:  :laugh:

Not going to lie the look completely different to mine!! Even the length looks different...

Did my xenons today, pics in soon!!
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 29 November 2014, 18:14
Theres a few photos... so i'm going to put the link in here so hope it works, if not let me know.

Few problems... on the front left headlight theres a gap between the bumper and light (flush on other side). Also coming up on my dash that front left light is out but it does work same as the other side.
Indicators work
LED DRL's work fine on Auto Mode and stay on... no coding required????

Other than that its all good!??!

Also threw in the GTI seat inserts for good measure.... next.... Yellow Fogs.

http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Harry_Norman/library/?sort=3&page=1
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 November 2014, 21:46
Nice one, they really transform the front  :cool:  Do you think you'll be able to sort out the gap?  Hopefully they won't throw any other errors.  Got vcds?

Seat inserts look nice too, not seen those colour ones in situ before, good match with the tartan.

I wait with bated breath for the yellow fogs  :laugh:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 29 November 2014, 21:50
Nice one, they really transform the front  :cool:  Do you think you'll be able to sort out the gap?  Hopefully they won't throw any other errors.  Got vcds?

Seat inserts look nice too, not seen those colour ones in situ before, good match with the tartan.

I wait with bated breath for the yellow fogs  :laugh:

Hopefully, because when i use the headlight washers i think the water gets on the inside of the headlight hence why it's got condensation in it atm, but where the bumper clips on at the very end slightly bent when we took it off, if i can't fix it myself i'll have to take it to a vag specialist to have a look at, will be going anyway due it showing 'bulb out' on both front left and right, even though they work just fine.

Whats vcds....   :embarrassed:

Seat inserts aren't as orange as they look, probably just the flash, but a nice red.

What if i told you... they are coming from China... shipping time..... 18-24 days....  :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 November 2014, 22:11
Yeah best get it looked at.  Is the condensation in both lights or just the one with the gap?  If it's in both it'll most likely dry out over next few days, and if not, you can always pop a couple of those silica gel sachets in to absorb the moisture.

VCDS (formerly known as VAG-COM) is an on board (OBD) diagnostic tool that can read some modules of you car's ECU.  It's a Windows-based software that allows a PC to act as a diagnostic tool for VW/Audi/SEAT/Skoda vehicles.  Not cheap for the genuine cable but you can pick up cheaper ones on eBay, but they can be hit and miss.  Useful to have if you do a lot of modding.

http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/product.html

Are you not just ordering the yellow film to go over your fogs?
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 29 November 2014, 22:22
Yeah best get it looked at.  Is the condensation in both lights or just the one with the gap?  If it's in both it'll most likely dry out over next few days, and if not, you can always pop a couple of those silica gel sachets in to absorb the moisture.

VCDS (formerly known as VAG-COM) is an on board (OBD) diagnostic tool that can read some modules of you car's ECU.  It's a Windows-based software that allows a PC to act as a diagnostic tool for VW/Audi/SEAT/Skoda vehicles.  Not cheap for the genuine cable but you can pick up cheaper ones on eBay, but they can be hit and miss.  Useful to have if you do a lot of modding.

http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/product.html

Are you not just ordering the yellow film to go over your fogs?

Just the one side, (left), im hoping it does but if not by the time i take it to vagtech i'll get them to have a look at it.

Ah no i dont, i would have no idea how to use it even if i did, and besides i was expecting the DRL's not too work on the auto function and they do, (my main justification for xenons :smug:), so was predicting i'd have to take it along somewhere to get that done. I also use a Mac and i putting windows on it again is tiresome  :grin:

Yeah i am, i was going to order the lamin-x ones, but found some cheapos on ebay first to see if i actually like the look.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Snooze on 29 November 2014, 22:25
Yeah i think i might keep the black exhaust... and maybe the layer of grim (student budget  :grin:).

Yabot, I polished my tailpipes today, so just to remind you what clean ones look like I took a photo for you...

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8660/15905754455_62e0242dc7_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/booth11/15905754455/)

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8672/15286179353_8c82fc4019_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/booth11/15286179353/)

...Sorry, couldn't resist  :grin:  :laugh:


Your tailpipes look stunning booth! Can u tell me how to get mine to look that good?

Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 29 November 2014, 22:29
Yeah i think i might keep the black exhaust... and maybe the layer of grim (student budget  :grin:).

Yabot, I polished my tailpipes today, so just to remind you what clean ones look like I took a photo for you...

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8660/15905754455_62e0242dc7_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/booth11/15905754455/)

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8672/15286179353_8c82fc4019_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/booth11/15286179353/)

...Sorry, couldn't resist  :grin:  :laugh:


Your tailpipes look stunning booth! Can u tell me how to get mine to look that good?

No dont tell him!! Then i can get a little crew of grimy tail pipes going so i dont feel lonesome....  :smug: :smug:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 November 2014, 22:43
Hi Snooze

Well it took about 2 mins to get them like that, but that's because I'm and OCD car freak and never let them get too dirty :embarrassed:

Achieving it depends on how bad they are to start, but as I think I said to Yabot, if they've got a lot of carbon deposit, start with a bit of fine grade 000 steel wool and some metal polish.  If they're not that bad then just polish on a microfibre.

One thing I often do, pre wash, is give them a squirt of Bilberry Wheel cleaner at same time I do my wheels and let that dwell, then normal wash followed by the polish stage and final buff with a fresh mf.

I've tried both Autosol and Auto Finesse metal polish but neither come close to Mothers Mag & Aluminium Polish.  You will need to really work the polish in with the cloth or wool to remove the soot.   If using steel wool be careful as it can cause unsightly scratches (mine have a few). 

Once you've got them up to a decent state, a regular wash and polish with Mothers (buffed off with a very soft microfibre) should keep them looking tip top  :smiley:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 November 2014, 22:47

No dont tell him!! Then i can get a little crew of grimy tail pipes going so i dont feel lonesome....  :smug: :smug:

Oops, too late, the secrets out  :laugh:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Snooze on 29 November 2014, 22:48
Cheers booth!
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: JayGTD on 01 December 2014, 08:34
Nice one mate! Looks awesome! Glad you got it all up and running. If you got em from xenonz I told him that you needed to jump the wires to get the LED's working in auto and he said he'd do something about it, didn't know he took it seriously!

Coding was just to remove the errors ;)
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 01 December 2014, 13:32
Nice one mate! Looks awesome! Glad you got it all up and running. If you got em from xenonz I told him that you needed to jump the wires to get the LED's working in auto and he said he'd do something about it, didn't know he took it seriously!

Coding was just to remove the errors ;)

Thanks pal. And also thanks again considering your feedback to him saved me a good £100 or tank of fuel probably ;).
 
Hopefully i'll be able to get the gap out between the xenons and front bumper on the left side as its letting moisture behind the headlight from the headlight washers :(. and get the bulb out error sorted... hoping that shouldn't be too costly.

Other than that i'm all good now! Apart from an annoying rattle between 1500-2400rpm  :angry: Hopefully an easy fix.

Stage 1 after Christmas me thinks!  :smug: :smug:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: dubber36 on 01 December 2014, 13:43
A gap between the bumper and the lights won't make them steam up. Water will get down there even if they are fitted correctly as there is no seal in that gap.

Issues with condensation in the lights will be to do with the lights themselves. Most likely a pinched seal on the bulb access covers on the back. As Rebecca said, silca gel should sort it out if it's not too bad, once you've checked that no more moisture can get in
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: JayGTD on 01 December 2014, 14:40
Nice one mate! Looks awesome! Glad you got it all up and running. If you got em from xenonz I told him that you needed to jump the wires to get the LED's working in auto and he said he'd do something about it, didn't know he took it seriously!

Coding was just to remove the errors ;)

Thanks pal. And also thanks again considering your feedback to him saved me a good £100 or tank of fuel probably ;).
 
Hopefully i'll be able to get the gap out between the xenons and front bumper on the left side as its letting moisture behind the headlight from the headlight washers :(. and get the bulb out error sorted... hoping that shouldn't be too costly.

Other than that i'm all good now! Apart from an annoying rattle between 1500-2400rpm  :angry: Hopefully an easy fix.

Stage 1 after Christmas me thinks!  :smug: :smug:

Haha! Skip the stage 1! Go straight to an APR stage 3 k04 turbo swap :p that's my dream.

I think I can help you with your light-bumper gap..when you fit the headlights, theres a little tab on the bottom of the headlights that you need to hook onto a tab on the bumper to hold it down under tension - I skipped this the first time round and I also had a gap. But when I took a closer look, I realised I missed a tab! Worth having a look I reckon. Don't think the condensation is to do with that though mate!

Now buy some 6000K HID's to get your main beams matching with those LED's!
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 01 December 2014, 17:20
Nice one mate! Looks awesome! Glad you got it all up and running. If you got em from xenonz I told him that you needed to jump the wires to get the LED's working in auto and he said he'd do something about it, didn't know he took it seriously!

Coding was just to remove the errors ;)

Thanks pal. And also thanks again considering your feedback to him saved me a good £100 or tank of fuel probably ;).
 
Hopefully i'll be able to get the gap out between the xenons and front bumper on the left side as its letting moisture behind the headlight from the headlight washers :(. and get the bulb out error sorted... hoping that shouldn't be too costly.

Other than that i'm all good now! Apart from an annoying rattle between 1500-2400rpm  :angry: Hopefully an easy fix.

Stage 1 after Christmas me thinks!  :smug: :smug:

Haha! Skip the stage 1! Go straight to an APR stage 3 k04 turbo swap :p that's my dream.

I think I can help you with your light-bumper gap..when you fit the headlights, theres a little tab on the bottom of the headlights that you need to hook onto a tab on the bumper to hold it down under tension - I skipped this the first time round and I also had a gap. But when I took a closer look, I realised I missed a tab! Worth having a look I reckon. Don't think the condensation is to do with that though mate!

Now buy some 6000K HID's to get your main beams matching with those LED's!

Haha... i just can't justify that around manchester city centre... and the amount of front tyres i'd steam through.

I remembered this from one of your posts... and we actually encountered a problem here. The front right had the tab your talking about and we made sure that was fitted, however when we came around to installing the left, there was no tab or like cone thing to slot the headlight into, strange, so we fitted it as best we could. Gotta take it to a vag specalist anyway to get that bulb out on my dash sorted so i'll get them to look there as well.

Dubber or Booth, would i have to remove the headlight to apply silicia gel? I wouldnt know where to look to find a pinched seal  :sad:

Just had a spin around since it's dark... i got a few flashes from people, 3 on a 10 minute drive... i know xenons are pretty bright since i sometimes think oncoming cars have their high beams on. but do you think mine might be pointing upwards abit more than they should?

Thanks guys
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 01 December 2014, 17:35
Have a read of this thread re silica gel packs and how to insert them.  It's not a gel you apply but little sachets of silica crystals you pop into the lights to absorb moisure.  You can get them on amazon or ebay.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=255473.0

You often get flashed by other non xenon drivers.  Has happened on my last 2 xenon cars.  You'll soon stop worrying about it. 
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 01 December 2014, 19:50
Have a read of this thread re silica gel packs and how to insert them.  It's not a gel you apply but little sachets of silica crystals you pop into the lights to absorb moisure.  You can get them on amazon or ebay.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=255473.0

You often get flashed by other non xenon drivers.  Has happened on my last 2 xenon cars.  You'll soon stop worrying about it.

Thanks Booth, will have a go at this tomorrow, found some silica gel in my multivitamin tub which i'll use  :smug: :smug:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: JayGTD on 01 December 2014, 21:38
Nice one mate! Looks awesome! Glad you got it all up and running. If you got em from xenonz I told him that you needed to jump the wires to get the LED's working in auto and he said he'd do something about it, didn't know he took it seriously!

Coding was just to remove the errors ;)

Thanks pal. And also thanks again considering your feedback to him saved me a good £100 or tank of fuel probably ;).
 
Hopefully i'll be able to get the gap out between the xenons and front bumper on the left side as its letting moisture behind the headlight from the headlight washers :(. and get the bulb out error sorted... hoping that shouldn't be too costly.

Other than that i'm all good now! Apart from an annoying rattle between 1500-2400rpm  :angry: Hopefully an easy fix.

Stage 1 after Christmas me thinks!  :smug: :smug:

Haha! Skip the stage 1! Go straight to an APR stage 3 k04 turbo swap :p that's my dream.

I think I can help you with your light-bumper gap..when you fit the headlights, theres a little tab on the bottom of the headlights that you need to hook onto a tab on the bumper to hold it down under tension - I skipped this the first time round and I also had a gap. But when I took a closer look, I realised I missed a tab! Worth having a look I reckon. Don't think the condensation is to do with that though mate!

Now buy some 6000K HID's to get your main beams matching with those LED's!

Haha... i just can't justify that around manchester city centre... and the amount of front tyres i'd steam through.

I remembered this from one of your posts... and we actually encountered a problem here. The front right had the tab your talking about and we made sure that was fitted, however when we came around to installing the left, there was no tab or like cone thing to slot the headlight into, strange, so we fitted it as best we could. Gotta take it to a vag specalist anyway to get that bulb out on my dash sorted so i'll get them to look there as well.

Dubber or Booth, would i have to remove the headlight to apply silicia gel? I wouldnt know where to look to find a pinched seal  :sad:

Just had a spin around since it's dark... i got a few flashes from people, 3 on a 10 minute drive... i know xenons are pretty bright since i sometimes think oncoming cars have their high beams on. but do you think mine might be pointing upwards abit more than they should?

Thanks guys

Did you get your lights aligned after you fitted them?
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 01 December 2014, 21:53
Nice one mate! Looks awesome! Glad you got it all up and running. If you got em from xenonz I told him that you needed to jump the wires to get the LED's working in auto and he said he'd do something about it, didn't know he took it seriously!

Coding was just to remove the errors ;)

Thanks pal. And also thanks again considering your feedback to him saved me a good £100 or tank of fuel probably ;).
 
Hopefully i'll be able to get the gap out between the xenons and front bumper on the left side as its letting moisture behind the headlight from the headlight washers :(. and get the bulb out error sorted... hoping that shouldn't be too costly.

Other than that i'm all good now! Apart from an annoying rattle between 1500-2400rpm  :angry: Hopefully an easy fix.

Stage 1 after Christmas me thinks!  :smug: :smug:

Haha! Skip the stage 1! Go straight to an APR stage 3 k04 turbo swap :p that's my dream.

I think I can help you with your light-bumper gap..when you fit the headlights, theres a little tab on the bottom of the headlights that you need to hook onto a tab on the bumper to hold it down under tension - I skipped this the first time round and I also had a gap. But when I took a closer look, I realised I missed a tab! Worth having a look I reckon. Don't think the condensation is to do with that though mate!

Now buy some 6000K HID's to get your main beams matching with those LED's!

Haha... i just can't justify that around manchester city centre... and the amount of front tyres i'd steam through.

I remembered this from one of your posts... and we actually encountered a problem here. The front right had the tab your talking about and we made sure that was fitted, however when we came around to installing the left, there was no tab or like cone thing to slot the headlight into, strange, so we fitted it as best we could. Gotta take it to a vag specalist anyway to get that bulb out on my dash sorted so i'll get them to look there as well.

Dubber or Booth, would i have to remove the headlight to apply silicia gel? I wouldnt know where to look to find a pinched seal  :sad:

Just had a spin around since it's dark... i got a few flashes from people, 3 on a 10 minute drive... i know xenons are pretty bright since i sometimes think oncoming cars have their high beams on. but do you think mine might be pointing upwards abit more than they should?

Thanks guys

Did you get your lights aligned after you fitted them?

Hmm no, havent had time yet, that essential is it?
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: JayGTD on 02 December 2014, 09:07
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Did you get your lights aligned after you fitted them?

Hmm no, havent had time yet, that essential is it?

Yeah dude, otherwise they'll be shining too high and blinding oncoming traffic! These Projectors are designed to cast a beam towards the left of the road so you'll illuminate signs and stuff, rather than right and into oncoming traffic. Theres white adjuster screws - use a torx screw to adjust em. Theres one for horizontal and one for vertical.

If you google it you'll find the standards - or do what I did and take em to a friendly MOT place and have em do it for you for free
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 02 December 2014, 09:50
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Did you get your lights aligned after you fitted them?

Hmm no, havent had time yet, that essential is it?

Yeah dude, otherwise they'll be shining too high and blinding oncoming traffic! These Projectors are designed to cast a beam towards the left of the road so you'll illuminate signs and stuff, rather than right and into oncoming traffic. Theres white adjuster screws - use a torx screw to adjust em. Theres one for horizontal and one for vertical.

If you google it you'll find the standards - or do what I did and take em to a friendly MOT place and have em do it for you for free

Ah thanks pal, will mention it today when im at the Vagtech place see if they can do anything about it.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 02 December 2014, 17:01
Hi again everyone,

Took my car to a vag specialist today. He got my Xenons working like OEM (i think). When the switch is on auto mode the DRL's are on at a high brightness during the day, when the light sensor detects night time, the xenons come on and the drl's dim down to what looks like 50% brightness.

HOWEVER, when the switch is on auto mode (which i leave it on), now that the xenons are fixed, it shows a bulb out error on the rear fog light with the fog light on. I'm taking it back Thursday but he said any help he can get (and me) would be much appreciated.

Any ideas?

Thanks again everyone  :kiss:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 02 December 2014, 20:19
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/Harry_Norman/IMG_0407_zps123c88ad.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Harry_Norman/media/IMG_0407_zps123c88ad.jpg.html)

Heres what im talking about. This is when the cars running and the switch is on auto mode.

Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Booth11 on 02 December 2014, 21:20
So you mean when lights are switched to auto (and are actually on)! the fog light is always on?
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: mike. on 02 December 2014, 21:23

Just had a spin around since it's dark... i got a few flashes from people, 3 on a 10 minute drive... i know xenons are pretty bright since i sometimes think oncoming cars have their high beams on. but do you think mine might be pointing upwards abit more than they should?

Thanks guys

Did you fit the AFS unit and the autoleveller.

If you didn't then everytime you go over a bump or accelerate it will look like you are on full beam which would explain why you are getting flashed.

The fog light bulb out problem is usually a BYTE 18 mis coding problem.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 02 December 2014, 21:48
So you mean when lights are switched to auto (and are actually on)! the fog light is always on?

Yeah pretty much :(.

And no, there is no AFS unit or auto leveller, lights havent been aligned yet for the beam test so he's doing that thursday.

I remember him mentioning byte 18 and code 15 or something, but didnt work, we scoured through the forums for abit.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: golfhappy on 02 December 2014, 22:42
Good luck with the error bulb...if you can post the long code for thr CECM byte 18 should be 04 me thinks.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: JayGTD on 03 December 2014, 08:33
Morning dude. Byte 18 - 04 (GTI rest of the world) is what you want. I suspect what he did was he set the car to USA, and over there the fogs and reverse lights are swapped over.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: dubber36 on 03 December 2014, 09:34
^^^^^

That wouldn't put the fog or reversing light on all the time tho'. Until it's sorted, I'd pull the fog light bulb out to prevent annoying everyone behind you.

The DRLs should be at full brightness with the light switch in the OFF position as well as AUTO too.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: mustard on 03 December 2014, 14:07
Good luck with the error bulb...if you can post the long code for thr CECM byte 18 should be 04 me thinks.

I obtained these codes from VW Vortex and it seems to have worked for a few people:
MJ2009 with BCM (03xx software)
Encoding   VCDS Byte 18 = 04
Lights go out at the tailgate opens                         NO
Error message MFA   Rear fog lamp with Resistance: No
Problem with front parking light (weak light)                 NO
LED tailgate light up more when braking                 YES

MJ2010 with BCM from KW22/2009 (Software 0537, 0541)
Encoding                               Halogen VCDS Byte 18 = 15                                 Xenon VCDS Byte 18 = 43
Lights go out at the tailgate opens           NO                                                      Update on 0575 / 6 *
Error message MFA                                   NO                                                      Update on 0575 / 6 *
Problem with front parking light (weak light)   NO   Update on 0575 / 6 *
LED tailgate light up more when braking   NO   Update on 0575 / 6 *

With MJ2010 / BCM 2011 from KW45/2009 (0573 & 0575 Software / 0576)
Encoding                                    Halogen VCDS Byte 18 = 15                   Xenon VCDS Byte 18 = 43
Lights go out at the tailgate opens          YES                                                             YES
Error message MFA                                   NO                                                              NO
Problem with front parking light (weak light)   NO                                                              NO
LED tailgate light up more when braking   NO                                                              NO
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 03 December 2014, 14:42
Thanks for the replies, unfortunately today i noticed whilst in auto mode there are no lights on at all! How annoying, so will definitely be taking all that in to him tomorrow so thanks again.

On a side note, took it to VW today with a rattle in lower revs, turns out some clip in the turbos loose or something so that's getting fixed tomorrow as well... Ahhh nearly there...

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Snoopy on 03 December 2014, 18:43
Good luck with the error bulb...if you can post the long code for thr CECM byte 18 should be 04 me thinks.

I obtained these codes from VW Vortex and it seems to have worked for a few people:
MJ2009 with BCM (03xx software)
Encoding   VCDS Byte 18 = 04
Lights go out at the tailgate opens                         NO
Error message MFA   Rear fog lamp with Resistance: No
Problem with front parking light (weak light)                 NO
LED tailgate light up more when braking                 YES

MJ2010 with BCM from KW22/2009 (Software 0537, 0541)
Encoding                               Halogen VCDS Byte 18 = 15                                 Xenon VCDS Byte 18 = 43
Lights go out at the tailgate opens           NO                                                      Update on 0575 / 6 *
Error message MFA                                   NO                                                      Update on 0575 / 6 *
Problem with front parking light (weak light)   NO   Update on 0575 / 6 *
LED tailgate light up more when braking   NO   Update on 0575 / 6 *

With MJ2010 / BCM 2011 from KW45/2009 (0573 & 0575 Software / 0576)
Encoding                                    Halogen VCDS Byte 18 = 15                   Xenon VCDS Byte 18 = 43
Lights go out at the tailgate opens          YES                                                             YES
Error message MFA                                   NO                                                              NO
Problem with front parking light (weak light)   NO                                                              NO
LED tailgate light up more when braking   NO                                                              NO
i use the code 15 in byte 18 with the older xenons without front leds only a side light. With rear LED lights from an R.
I tried 43 but the side light was about 50% brightness and I had a couple of issues with the light's not turning sometimes in auto mode. Dana at rosstec gave me technical support as I own a vcds cable. We found 15 worked for my cars spec.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: golfhappy on 03 December 2014, 21:30
Snoopy would you say that what coding works depends on what software the CECM is coded to? My lights work perfect but sometimes depending on how i switch them on i'll get the error. Ross tech reckoned it was the lights. Swapping them over the fault remained on the left hand side!
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: JayGTD on 04 December 2014, 13:29
Is it just me that has them working correctly?  :huh:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 04 December 2014, 15:49
If there's anyone here. How do you adjust brightness for DRLS?
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 04 December 2014, 17:01
Nevermind all sorted!!  :grin:

Now xenons all work like factory... my nice new red footwell light has gone out... (didnt do drivers side yet).

Big shout out to vagtechnik in eccles though, super helpful friendly place!
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: charlie on 04 December 2014, 22:08
Glad your all sorted now tim to enjoy  :cool:
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: Adycakes on 05 December 2014, 10:09
Nevermind all sorted!!  :grin:

Now xenons all work like factory... my nice new red footwell light has gone out... (didnt do drivers side yet).

Big shout out to vagtechnik in eccles though, super helpful friendly place!

So as someone that has done a retrofit of Xenons, how difficult was it?

It's the next thing I'd like to do, but a little concerned about how difficult this is to pull off without a lot of hassle.

And if you don't mind me asking, where did you source your lights from?

Thanks,
Ady
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: yabot on 05 December 2014, 14:16
Nevermind all sorted!!  :grin:

Now xenons all work like factory... my nice new red footwell light has gone out... (didnt do drivers side yet).

Big shout out to vagtechnik in eccles though, super helpful friendly place!

So as someone that has done a retrofit of Xenons, how difficult was it?

It's the next thing I'd like to do, but a little concerned about how difficult this is to pull off without a lot of hassle.

And if you don't mind me asking, where did you source your lights from?

Thanks,
Ady

Wasnt difficult per say, just 'fiddly'. Fiddliest bit for me anyway was getting the bloody grill off, after that it was all plain sailing. Easier if you keep all the screws in order (like i didnt), and where as some fully remove the bumper away from the car i didnt do that either, just removed some of the connectors in order to be able access some of the screws lower down.

Got them from Xenonz.co.uk. everyone thats seen them said they look good, and i can't fault the fitment they fit snug, however theres a gap between the back and the bodywork which is bugging me abit but not sure if thats normal (if someone could enlighten us on this? :D), other than that and some condensation which im ordering some silica gel packs for they work a treat.

Good luck!!
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: vertex on 07 February 2015, 17:34
Hi,

Can you shed some light on the coding? I've got the headlights from XENONZ but cannot get rid of the DRL warning light.

Thanks
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: mustard on 07 February 2015, 18:21
This may help,

MJ2009 with BCM (03xx software)
Encoding   VCDS Byte 18 = 04
Lights go out at the tailgate opens   NO
Error message MFA   Rear fog lamp with Resistance: No
Problem with front parking light (weak light)   NO
LED tailgate light up more when braking   YES

MJ2010 with BCM from KW22/2009 (Software 0537, 0541)
Encoding   Halogen VCDS Byte 18 = 15   Xenon VCDS Byte 18 = 43
Lights go out at the tailgate opens   NO   Update on 0575 / 6 *
Error message MFA   NO   Update on 0575 / 6 *
Problem with front parking light (weak light)   NO   Update on 0575 / 6 *
LED tailgate light up more when braking   NO   Update on 0575 / 6 *

With MJ2010 / BCM 2011 from KW45/2009 (0573 & 0575 Software / 0576)
Encoding   Halogen VCDS Byte 18 = 15   Xenon VCDS Byte 18 = 43
Lights go out at the tailgate opens   YES   YES
Error message MFA   NO   NO
Problem with front parking light (weak light)   NO   NO
LED tailgate light up more when braking   NO   NO


I used 15 on mine with Halogen bulbs and using 04 gave me weak DRLs under normal circumstances and only full strength DRLs with side lights.
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: vertex on 15 February 2015, 14:26
Thanks mustard, unfortunately still have the DRL warning light. Changing byte 18 to anything but 15 causes the rear light warnings to appear.

Someone must know how to sort this?
Title: Re: Noticeable differences?
Post by: vertex on 15 February 2015, 14:39
Right, so I've got the warning light out by telling the car it does not have DRLs installed.

This was done in byte 15 and unchecking bit 6. The DRL will only go on if you select the side lights or when the main beam is on.