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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: jamie1989 on 04 July 2012, 13:16
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At the moment I have for my AGU
-K03s (not fitted yet)
-Silicone TIP
-5 piece Boost pipes
-catch can
-side mount intercooler
-forge recirculating valvle yellow spring
-brand new maf
-3inch turbo back exhuast with decat
-standard injectors
The car is running really healthy at the moment on stage 1 remap by R-tech running 195bhp and 212lbs of torque.
With the K03s fitted I would expect to gain around 225-230bhp with around 240-245lbs of torque once remapped again?
My question is if I now buy these
-Forge actuator yellow spring
-Yellow calibra injectors
-vr6 maf
-Uprated sidemount intercooler
Would 245bhp and around 270lbs of torque would it be asking too much or would I need a decent THS front mount intercooler to achieve the above?
I know its talked about alot im just wondering does anyone have any experience with the uprated side intercoolers but thought they were not upto the job and went all out to buy the ths one. If the uprated side mount intercooler is upto the job then id rather spend a few hundred quid else where.
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Ask Dalo harkin he gonna have all this lot on soon :wink:
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IMO if you were to bother with all that you would be wasting your time and money not buying a FMIC.
If you were to just switch to the ko3s i could understand not getting a new intercooler but to go down the MAF and injectors route why miss out the part which will help maintain the torque and hp when getting it mapped again.
On a few runs ont he dyno i would expect you to have great bhp on the first run then for it to drop throughout the rest of the session without a FMIC so choice is yours... I wouldnt be spending out on another map without the FMIC.
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Which is my point but I need to know if the uprated side mount intercooler does a similar job to the fmic, As its alot bigger than the standard side mount intercooler.
£500 is alot of money if the gains are very minimal which is reason I want a comparison of both with the same mods.
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I got 225bhp on my uprated side mount BUT it was suffering from heatsoak on the rollers which is why I moved to the FMIC
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Which is my point but I need to know if the uprated side mount intercooler does a similar job to the fmic, As its alot bigger than the standard side mount intercooler.
£500 is alot of money if the gains are very minimal which is reason I want a comparison of both with the same mods.
It doesnt matter how bigger SMIC you've got, the problem that still lies is the lack of cooling you can get to it :smiley:
A FMIC is the way to go OR & W.M.I :cool:
I think youd be lucky to get 225bhp with a side mount :lipsrsealed:
Check my sig and spec to give you a rough indication Regards to spec and output :smiley:
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I was lucky then :laugh:
My standard injectors are on the limit now though
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all about ko4! :laugh:
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all about ko4! :laugh:
if you aint got a lsd then its money wasted tbh.
230-50bhp 250lbft is perfect for a 2wd car without spunking money up the wall.
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:laugh:
na its not that bad!
lsd would help alot tho!!
then more powerrrr! :lipsrsealed:
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:laugh:
na its not that bad!
lsd would help alot tho!!
then more powerrrr! :lipsrsealed:
ive got a little surprise up my sleave soon if all goes well. :smug:
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theres only one lsd i like :lipsrsealed: :grin:
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theres only one lsd i like :lipsrsealed: :grin:
naughty :kiss:
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:laugh:
na its not that bad!
lsd would help alot tho!!
then more powerrrr! :lipsrsealed:
:laugh:
Its all about the 300+figures :wink:
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:laugh:
na its not that bad!
lsd would help alot tho!!
then more powerrrr! :lipsrsealed:
:laugh:
Its all about the 300+figures :wink:
does sound nice :cool:
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:laugh:
na its not that bad!
lsd would help alot tho!!
then more powerrrr! :lipsrsealed:
:laugh:
Its all about the 300+figures :wink:
does sound nice :cool:
It is! Especially when posh man in his 2008 3.2l v6 dis Audi a4sline come up next to you and the gets beat by "just a golf" :laugh:
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be lucky to see over 225bhp without a actuator.
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Yeah chris a forge actuator and yellow spring is definatly on the list to buy soon.
Im just so baffled whether to go front mount or a turbo revs side mount will suffice.
What I need to know is would say 245bhp and 270lbs+ be achievable with everything mentioned on page 1 soo
K03s with forge actuator yellow spring
Silicone tip with forge 007p yellow spring
calibra yellow injectors
3inch turbo back exhuast with decat
VR6 maf
5 piece silicone turbo kit
catch can fitted
And turbo revs intercooler?
I would expect some heat soak from this with the above figures but is it achievable?
Intake temps can be reduced if I add to the list a power gasket maybe.
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go FMIC.
I have THS FMIC and was on rollers all day and never had any heatsoak at all.
245bhp is a push, but do-able with all healthy gear.
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I would be happy with about 240bhp as im not chasing big power, Ideally I am wanting power so a nice torque line is what im looking for anything over 270lbs would be cool.
Looks like im on a hunt for a Fmic then :smiley:
Bloody expensive things though haha
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be lucky to see over 225bhp without a actuator.
ive seen a few agu ko3s that have made it past 230bhp without forge actuator.
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be lucky to see over 225bhp without a actuator.
ive seen a few agu ko3s that have made it past 230bhp without forge actuator.
Yeah but it wont last long! the standard actuators would soon go weak and then they will be loosing power.
You can make good power with a healthy standard actuator but it will soon die! :laugh:
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I would be happy with about 240bhp as im not chasing big power, Ideally I am wanting power so a nice torque line is what im looking for anything over 270lbs would be cool.
Looks like im on a hunt for a Fmic then :smiley:
Bloody expensive things though haha
That's why I'm to replicate the ths one but on the cheap..... Just waitin for some measurements then will write a list and cost of what's needed :wink:
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was getting 192g/s with the k03s on standard actuator, mind you it had a very easy life and only 52k :grin:
230bhp+ is possible with SMIC although heat soak is bit of an issue and probably would get more torque with a front mount.
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Never got any heat soak with my smic on rollers with side mount got to be with size, quality and venting of the unit???? With smic arch MUST be vented properly.
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be lucky to see over 225bhp without a actuator.
ive seen a few agu ko3s that have made it past 230bhp without forge actuator.
Yeah but it wont last long! the standard actuators would soon go weak and then they will be loosing power.
You can make good power with a healthy standard actuator but it will soon die! :laugh:
mines doing fine and its been on the car 2yrs. previous owner fitted brand new KKK turbo and had it remaped by R-tech.
i brought a forge actuator and took the car down to rtech hoping they would fit it but after looking at it and having it on the rollers he said the oem one was fine.
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Pic of my bad boy in here it is big! :smiley:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5250746-GT28RS-TyrolSport-SMIC-Fine&highlight=tyrolsport+smic
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be lucky to see over 225bhp without a actuator.
ive seen a few agu ko3s that have made it past 230bhp without forge actuator.
Yeah but it wont last long! the standard actuators would soon go weak and then they will be loosing power.
You can make good power with a healthy standard actuator but it will soon die! :laugh:
mines doing fine and its been on the car 2yrs. previous owner fitted brand new KKK turbo and had it remaped by R-tech.
i brought a forge actuator and took the car down to rtech hoping they would fit it but after looking at it and having it on the rollers he said the oem one was fine.
What power are you pushing?
I would still personally get one as then you know you won't be loosing boost
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Did have a standard SMIC with no other mods than a THS pancake replacement pipe which probably is why after ragging it felt down on power :grin:
looks fk'in huge for an side mount that Tyrol Sport and no doubt less laggy than a front mount, how tight of a fit is it?
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Need to cut out some of trim behind headlamp other than than straight fit, sits a lot lower than standard one being a lot longer. Will give you power output in 2weeks when all is fitted, finished and rollered. :grin:
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Awsome. If you get good results I will lean towards having the same side mount.
If not I will have no choice to either build my own front mount or buy the THS one.
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was getting 192g/s with the k03s on standard actuator, mind you it had a very easy life and only 52k :grin:
230bhp+ is possible with SMIC although heat soak is bit of an issue and probably would get more torque with a front mount.
How do you see over 187g/s with AGU MAF?
They limit out at 673kg/hr @ 4.9V which is 187g/s
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Selling all my stage 2 k03s gear if anyone interested.
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Selling all my stage 2 k03s gear if anyone interested.
whats in the bundle and how much you looking for it mate? :evil:
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Everything. Drop me a pm and can go from there
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Also intrested!!
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lol you don't have anything I need yet again :grin:
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Build another stage 2 AGU. £1100 and you can take my 250bhp setup - everything hahaha.
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If only...
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was getting 192g/s with the k03s on standard actuator, mind you it had a very easy life and only 52k :grin:
230bhp+ is possible with SMIC although heat soak is bit of an issue and probably would get more torque with a front mount.
How do you see over 187g/s with AGU MAF?
They limit out at 673kg/hr @ 4.9V which is 187g/s
Have an AUQ bud
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The thread is about AGU though...
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The thread is about AGU though...
Sorry Chris mines AUM!!! :cry:
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Converting my AGU engine to AUM aswell for big turbo. Me7.5 over me3.8.3
Going to run no VVT
wideband lambda
EGT sensor
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Converting my AGU engine to AUM aswell for big turbo. Me7.5 over me3.8.3
Going to run no VVT
wideband lambda
EGT sensor
Sounding nice mate considering what do with mine still got money sitting in bank from selling afla gta, considering doing stuff on golf then think if sell it ain't going to get money back!!! Mines poss worth £2500 with a push but owes me less so not to bad.
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So currently the AGU has the below
-K03s (not fitted yet)
-Silicone TIP
-5 piece Boost pipes
-catch can
-side mount intercooler
-forge recirculating valvle yellow spring
-brand new maf
-3inch turbo back exhuast with decat
-standard injectors
I have just bought the following from Chris. (Thanks buddy)
- Forge actuator (yellow spring)
- Yellow Calibra Injectors
- And VR6 MAF
Im just in need of a good frount mount now :smiley: and possibly a good 225 fuel pump or just hope that when I change the fuel filter it will pull enough fuel through.
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good lad :afro:
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Get my ECU bought too ;)
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now that's tempting lol
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:) easy to code in aswell.
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Did you get the MBC working ok in the end?
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Erm. Dont think so, just ran it N75. 21psi spike and holding 18-19psi dropping to 13ish psi at redline.
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Good enough then :smiley:
what you after for it? Might be something to consider lol
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Don't forget the actuator for the turbo, with k03s setup unless the wastgate is pretty much clamped you wont be able to push it too the 240-245 figures.
Also chris why you ditching VVT? Would of thought you would of kept it onto an AGU, considering that on the ETKA diagram its a direct bolt on and gives you a bit more tuning function while you are using a bosch 7.5 ecu.
Also if you look at some EU tuners they do a direct loom replacement kit for AGU to the 7.5 ECU in a kit if you want to simplify things.
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Thats on my list buddy :cool:
Literally all that is left is intercooler :sad:
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Wazzer not sure. I know theres about £300 easily worth of mapping on it. £200 plus postage mainly due to the nature of the map + time spent.
Golf-sib - VVT is only there to help warm the cats up on idle. It doesnt help to make any power at all.
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Right I think the intercooler is sorted now just waiting for a reply :smug:
Last thing left to do before all this goes on the car is a remap, However!! Is it worth porting the exhuast manifold?
Would I see any benefits doing this on a K03s or a waste of time?
Getting really close now its going to be nice coming from a standard k03 to pushing a k03s well specced :cool:
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I would say port the manifold if you want to, it will help your turbo spin up sooner and deleate the know restriction that they cause.
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Mmmmm I will have to have a look if I can find a spare one thats not cracked and have a go.
I just want everything done so its one trip to R-Tech and its done! For now :evil:
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As I see it when you get it mapped you want the only restriction to be te turbo if possible.
My exhaust was restricting me and I was gutted!
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Well im hoping for 245bhp and 270lbs of torque upwards but we will see.
I may have a chat with Nick at R-tech but nothing can be prooved until its on the rollers.
I will be disappointed spending all this money to see less than the above figures :sad:
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As I see it when you get it mapped you want the only restriction to be te turbo if possible.
My exhaust was restricting me and I was gutted!
the ko3/s manifold isn't restrictive.
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Only third connector is, if you want to push and push due to the high EGT's
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As long as you eiminate all other restrictions you could see that sort of figure, you never know it depends on te engine it's self but nick is always finding new things to do and ways of mapping so you never know :cool:
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Even if you dont make big peak, i know Nick will map it so it comes in hard and early, peak power coming in at 4500rpm and holding onto 7000rpm. Thats what makes it a weapon.
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Even if you dont make big peak, i know Nick will map it so it comes in hard and early, peak power coming in at 4500rpm and holding onto 7000rpm. Thats what makes it a weapon.
Cant wait!!! :grin:
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Right if its nice this week il be changing the turbo :cool:
Injectors and maf will have to wait.
Im still waiting on the front mount but that will be done next.
So Iv almost got everything now im left with one thing tho :huh:
Fueling iv got the vauxhall calibra injectors how ever will my 1.6 fuel pump be upto the job of keeping up with the demand? Or do I bite the bullet and do the 225bhp fuel pump into swirl pot mod?
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fuel pump is the same across the whole range so should be fine. Don't fit the injectors and MAF until you get to R-Tech :wink:
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You have just made my night Wazzer my man!
I wouldve thought the little 1.6 fuel pump wouldv been hanging out of its arse at 245bhp upwards haha
Sky is doing my head in at the moment im trying to subscribe to watch hay and chisora but lines are too busy!! grrhhhh :sick:
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Chances are the pump will be showing signs of weakness.
I wouldnt be suprised if you had to swap it to higher flow one.
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Mmmmm I dunno wat to do as im sure Nick will do sumthing special with it lol
Any thoughts on the cooler :grin:
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Ok so now Iv bought a THS front mount! :cool:
Just need to fit everything ready now and book an official date for mapping.
Car will be left with R-tech for a week :sad:
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As I see it when you get it mapped you want the only restriction to be te turbo if possible.
My exhaust was restricting me and I was gutted!
the ko3/s manifold isn't restrictive.
Well I was told by nick to port #3 as it is restrictive and it helps tr turbo to spoil up faster. As I se it porting it can only do good :grin:
Ok so now Iv bought a THs front mount! :cool:
Just need to fit everything ready now and book an official date for mapping.
Car will be left with R-tech for a week :sad:
Good choice! :cool:
A week seems long but trust me its worth it :grin:
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Yeah I cant wait now to be honest,
I was seriously considering building my own but I bought the THS front mount at a reasonable price so I couldnt say no really.
Stroll on 5th August hopefully, I will ask Nick to update this thread throughout the week etc to see the results and pushing that little k03s :cool:
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should see some good results hopefully dude :cool:
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I hope so mate and if it dont blow up the wheels will need spraying/refurbing next.
My priority at the moment is the engine as I know the car will never be a show car.
Ohh an I need bigger brakes as the 1.6 brakes are cool at the moment but I would imagine they wouldnt last long with nearly 250bhp and stopping a Bora :laugh:
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oh yes i think they will be needed :grin:
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I hope so mate and if it dont blow up the wheels will need spraying/refurbing next.
My priority at the moment is the engine as I know the car will never be a show car.
Ohh an I need bigger brakes as the 1.6 brakes are cool at the moment but I would imagine they wouldnt last long with nearly 250bhp and stopping a Bora :laugh:
340 4pots ftw :evil:
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Parrrr im going to go 288mm set up with decent drilled and grooved discs etc
I dont drive like an idiot or on track so I wont be thrashing it everywhere to be able to kill the brakes.
To be honest the 280mm are pretty cool now so I may even consider buying drilled and grooved discs with a decent set of pads.
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my 288's with drilled and grooved all round aint much if any better than the standard discs i had so save yourself a few quid and just get the mintex standard discs :wink:
they just look nice behind the wheel :grin:
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Be interesting to see what Nick can do on yours Jamie with the parts off mine. His new mapping software might let him find a little area that can be improved.
You dont know how tempted I am to make you put WMI on it....but then you might take crown of highest AGU k03s lol
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Arhh man Chris no more :grin:
I will living in my car if my misses looks at my bank account lmao
Its a good job iv payed the holiday off we going in September :laugh: Id have my balls fed to the dogs if I havent haha
How much would a decent off the shelf kit cost me? :evil:
Yeah Jim told me his new software is meant to be pretty cool!
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Its about £300 i think. But you not allowed to do it haha....I say so :D
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I think me k03s will be bending rods now and smoking laggy k04's :evil:
Im going to look into it but need to look into it FAST I have a tight deadline.
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You dont know how tempted I am to make you put WMI on it....but then you might take crown of highest AGU k03s lol
oi that's my goal lol
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Ommmmm who will win? :grin:
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Parrrr im going to go 288mm set up with decent drilled and grooved discs etc
I dont drive like an idiot or on track so I wont be thrashing it everywhere to be able to kill the brakes.
To be honest the 280mm are pretty cool now so I may even consider buying drilled and grooved discs with a decent set of pads.
How do your 1.6 brakes fit the 1.8t engine? :huh: When Dai did his conversion from the 2.0 to 1.8t he had to swap the brakes
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=87778.0
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Ill always be winner :D
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Bora mate, slightly different where the brakes are concerned.
Maybe because its a bigger car?
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I may have to take the title, youv had your fun let me have mine :grin:
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Bora mate, slightly different where the brakes are concerned.
Maybe because its a bigger car?
Surely the hubs and drive shafts are / were different between the two :undecided: its just a MK4 underneath. Didnt think the brake would be different between the two :undecided:
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I may have to take the title, youv had your fun let me have mine :grin:
330% increase over standard 75bhp.
Did well there.
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Nope still running 1.6 brakes 280mm discs lol
They not much smaller than 1.8t 288mm.
Driveshafts are different as they 100mm on the 1.8t if I remember rightly.
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But the 1.8t driveshaft shaft fitted the 1.6hubs.
I believe if I want 288 or 312 brake upgrade then new hubs will be needed.
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But the 1.8t driveshaft shaft fitted the 1.6hubs.
I believe if I want 288 or 312 brake upgrade then new hubs will be needed.
correct :wink:
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But the 1.8t driveshaft shaft fitted the 1.6hubs.
I believe if I want 288 or 312 brake upgrade then new hubs will be needed.
Weird. Like i said my mate Dai had to replace everything as the shafts wouldnt fit the hubs :undecided: and that was on the 2.0 with the 280mm brakes
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That is weird :huh:
I will be changing the hubs soon anyways so il jump straight to 312 set up :evil:
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That is weird :huh:
I will be changing the hubs soon anyways so il jump straight to 312 set up :evil:
Exactly hence my slight disbelief :laugh: :laugh:
According to the thread I linked to the 1.6 Golf only had 256mm brakes anyway! So its even weirder that the Bora is fitted with the 280mm!! Confused? I am!! :grin: :grin: :laugh: :laugh:
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Yepp FSI III calipers FTW :grin:
The Bora is bigger car so thats my guess lol
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Yepp FSI III calipers FTW :grin:
The Bora is bigger car so thats my guess lol
the wifes got them fs 111 on the audi and the brake fade is scary sometimes :grin:
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Parrrr you dont need brakes :grin:
On a serious note mine are pretty cool mate iv had no issues with them even on spirited driving over brecon etc.
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Parrrr you dont need brakes :grin:
On a serious note mine are pretty cool mate iv had no issues with them even on spirited driving over brecon etc.
Not driving it hard enough then :tongue:
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He will be with 245bhp under his right foot!
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Just checked the weather this weekend no rain lots of sun!
Soo its either put the k03s on or soak up some rays and burn :smug:
Or do both at the same time haha
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Just checked the weather this weekend no rain lots of sun!
Soo its either put the k03s on or soak up some rays and burn :smug:
Or do both at the same time haha
Fit the KO3s tonight, quick blast through the Beacons early tomorrow morning. Then some cans and sun in the afternoon. Job done :afro:
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Haha Wish it was that easy. Took me half a day last time I changed the turbo lol
I think its a job for Sunday :cool:
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lucky you its that time of year again for me daughters party tomorrow with 40+ kids coming :cry: :cry: :cry:
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lucky you its that time of year again for me daughters party tomorrow with 40+ kids coming :cry: :cry: :cry:
fun times :cry:
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lucky you its that time of year again for me daughters party tomorrow with 40+ kids coming :cry: :cry: :cry:
fun times :cry:
dreading it mate :cry:
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lucky you its that time of year again for me daughters party tomorrow with 40+ kids coming :cry: :cry: :cry:
fun times :cry:
dreading it mate :cry:
See how many you could cram in your car like a Top Gear challenge lmao
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lucky you its that time of year again for me daughters party tomorrow with 40+ kids coming :cry: :cry: :cry:
fun times :cry:
dreading it mate :cry:
You won't be when she's 16 and bringing mates home :laugh:
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lucky you its that time of year again for me daughters party tomorrow with 40+ kids coming :cry: :cry: :cry:
fun times :cry:
dreading it mate :cry:
You won't be when she's 16 and bringing mates home :laugh:
Naughty naughty :laugh:
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Thats just so wrong :grin:
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I've got two girls lol :wink:
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I've got two girls lol :wink:
Alright unto they start bringing their lad mates home :laugh:
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Back to topic lol
ko3 swapped with ko3s one word for the job - NIGHTMARE!
But im happy..
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Not as easy as it looks in pictures is it lol
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Tried doing it on my own and got everything off but getting the new turbo on...well its a 2man job.
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Tried doing it on my own and got everything off but getting the new turbo on...well its a 2man job.
:grin:
Not the easiest job in the world but definatly worth it!
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I think I am going to have real issues with mine, the K03s I got has a silencer on and you have to 'make room' from what I have read :huh:
he he
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Mine has a silencer an it was fine.
Although why is my car only boostin 12 psi instead of 14 upwards?
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my turbos off but cant get it out out if ya know what a mean to hot now be pissing about with it haha
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boost pipe popped off and answers my question about not boosting as normal.
Should I see a difference with the k03s on a standard AGU stage 1 remap?
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about 160bhp is what mine ran on nicks rollers.
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I can feel some improvement however unless I have another boost leak or the actuator is set up wrong which I doubt its still only boosting 14psi.
Before the turbo swap it would boost on a hill upto 18 at times but its not butching over 14.
I can hear something as if its leaking too so my guess it I prob have a boost leak.
Just waiting for my ths intercooler now and get it remapped with injectors and vr6 maf.
Price with R-tech custom map is £190 isnt it? Im currently running their map..
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no mate it will be more as you have changed the turbo it only applies to 1 turbo going onto stage 2 etc if that makes sense thats what nick was saying before unless he has changed it
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stage 2 live custom remap is £290 :cool:
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Arhh man I thought it £290 for aum's etc
But as im running stage one R-tech remap already on a AGU it would be £100 cheaper :sad:
I thought as the aum's auq's are vvt or have electronic throttle bodys and map sensors they werent as easy as agu's.
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no mate it dont work like that if you was mapped on a ko3s then it would be cheaper if you were mapped on ko3 and then going back with ko3s its full price just give nick a shout to confirm for def tho mate :wink:
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Arhh pants itl be worth it I suppose lol
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So after talking to the R-tech boys iv bummed out on remapping the car with the injectors and vr6 maf :cry:,
However the car is booked in August 3rd @ midday with the following specs -
Engine - AGU
K03s with forge actuator (yellow spring)
Forge 007p (yellow spring)
3inch turbo back with decat
THS front mount
Creation sports tip and 5 piece boost pipes
Standard bosch maf
Standard injectors.
The car will be booked back in at a later date to map in the injectors and maf I just cant afford a week away without the car atm and getting 2x lifts up there and back from Sunny South Wales :sad:
Updates will be done shortly :cool:
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be better to get it done all out the way in one hit tho jamie
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Around 225bhp then, it will still put a smile on your face :wink:
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We will see im hoping for abit more tbh specially with ths front mount too.
I will get it mapped again christmas time then when iv got more time to do things.
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True, mine was mapped with the Turborevs SMIC so you might see a bit more. I need to get my arse up there soon, had the injectors and MAF sat around far too long lol
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Awwwww man the worst thing is iv got them sat infront of me ready to go on :sad:
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mine have been in the shed well over a year now :laugh:
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Hate havin the goodies in the cupboard teasing me...... :evil:
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I can feel some improvement however unless I have another boost leak or the actuator is set up wrong which I doubt its still only boosting 14psi.
Before the turbo swap it would boost on a hill upto 18 at times but its not butching over 14.
I can hear something as if its leaking too so my guess it I prob have a boost leak.
Just waiting for my ths intercooler now and get it remapped with injectors and vr6 maf.
Price with R-tech custom map is £190 isnt it? Im currently running their map..
The AGU works the power / load out from the air flow via maf not boost, the k03s has a better VE and can flow better and make the air flow with less boost. We will check it out on the day you come, if you bring your injectors and maf it will try and get time to dial them in once the load mapping has been done.
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^^^ always providing a great service! :cool:
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So I should be one step ahead with mine then :evil:
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on a agu ko3s could you run the yellow injectors and 3"MAF without a map tweek?
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you probably could but not for very long. Not sure how long Chris ran them without a map tweak
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Friday 3rd next week is D -DAY haha
Off with the old and on with the new
(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/jamierees1989/2012-07-22130157.jpg)
And here is THS porn :evil:
(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/jamierees1989/2012-07-25204224.jpg)
Its my Birthday next week so the remap is my own present im spoilin myself haha well the car getting spoilt but itl make me :evil:
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Massive thanks to R-tech boys they have been nothing but helpful and I will definatley be bringin up the maf and injectors see what we can do :cool:
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For what it takes id just chuck them in when you are at mapping.
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We will see what happens on the day.
Im happy to pay the extra but honestly cant afford a week without the car :sad:
Im abit gutted I sold the Audi now as I could have used that for the week.
Its a nice day today so im going to try and fit the front mount :cool:
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did you get the modiied part of the crash bar with the kit? your going to have fun, cloudy here :cry:
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Nah mate but its pretty easy, Iv got everything I need including the idiots guide how to fit lol
But on a serious note the sun is shining and its lovely down in Wales so perfect oppertunity to get it done asap.
Iv done 200miles on the k03s no issues at all so im a happy bunny so far.
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only thing that took a bit of time fitting the THS was trimming the bumper :wink:
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All fitted took about 3 hours, hardest part was the slam panel and getting the tin part to make the thing bloody hollow.
About 10 drill bits down and a good hammer and chisel its all done.
:cool:
The ONLY thing left is a new fuel filter and plugs everything else is redy :evil:
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THS intercooler fitted
(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/jamierees1989/2012-07-26201035.jpg)
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Good work looks good mate :smiley:
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Looks familiar! :D
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ah I forgot you sticking it behind a Bora bumper, doesn't look like there's as much cutting involved?
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Haha I have to bum around the mk4 golf section :grin: its just a even heavier and lardy Golf with a boot lmao
Yeah no cutting but bear in mynd I had the ebay one a few months ago an cut alot so today I had nothing to cut at all :laugh:
I told my mates and none of them believed I had a front mount haha thats the way I like it.
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stealth intercooler...FTW!!
I miss driving mine now. Need some power back in my life apart from 1.6couldntpullyaforeskinback power
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Yepp stealth FTW!!
16 pages already haha hopefully this will give the AGU boys a good idea of what to expect hey....
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248bhp 297lbft to beat ;)
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Looks good and quick fitting....... Don't suppose you took measurements befor you put it on :undecided: :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
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Yeah very quick.
Yeah mate I looked at it yesterday and tried thinking of a way to measure the pipes etc but one or two of them would defo need custom work.
Basically you have twin pass core, 1 x throttle body silicone (which can be used as standard), 1 x straight ali pipe with 45" bend which connects the throttle body silicone pipe and bottom core outlet, 1 x custom straight silicone pipe with 90" bend(this enter through slam panel from the core), 1 x 90" ali bend about 150mm length, another 90" bend (but silicone)which connects to either pancake pipe or your own custom pipe to replace the pancake.
I didnt take inside diameters as everyone is different but at a guess I would guess about 60mm
Here is the guide which will help you make a custom intercooler too
http://ths.snapalbum.co.uk/MK4%20cooler%20instructions.pdf
Hope that helps :cool:
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Chris we will see how healthy the engine is first haha
I will be over the moon if we can beat yours but no matter what happens il be coming home a happy bunny :cool:
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248bhp 297lbft to beat ;)
says 248bhp 278lbft in your sig :huh:
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WAs tuned down from that torque tho to save the rods. ;)
http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/carsey2006/?action=view¤t=IMG_0078-1.jpg
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WAs tuned down from that torque tho to save the rods. ;)
http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/carsey2006/?action=view¤t=IMG_0078-1.jpg
nice bit of rod bending, drive-shaft snapping torque there WEL GEL :cool:
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WAS concerned about the rods before anything else haha.
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I thought agu's can take 300lbs of torque reliably? or have I read wrong?
Am I starting something that one will be ok but others may bend with even something like 280lbs etc?
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Depends what life engine has had. Some go earlier than 300lbt, some dont.
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MMMMmmmmm I do want a reliable motor but pushing sounds like fun too :evil:
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WAS concerned about the rods before anything else haha.
suppose it was nice of nick to turn it down to only 278lbft :shocked:
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jamie, how long are r tech having your car for with the maf and injectors?
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Im goin down for the day but nothins been promised as they wanted it for a week ideally.
Updates will be next friday :cool:
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a week?! :undecided:
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a week?! :undecided:
When you have a turbo swap it tends to take longer Then a day :cool:
MMMMmmmmm I do want a reliable motor but pushing sounds like fun too :evil:
I like being risky :laugh:
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But I dont like breaking down either lmao :evil:
Anything around chris's spec would make me more than happy :cool:
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I'm in 2 minds whether to fit this larger bore manifold or just port out my one...
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I'm in 2 minds whether to fit this larger bore manifold or just port out my one...
port it Y risk the other one cracking?
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I would take the standard one off and port it, I wanted to do the same but couldnt be bothered after the hassle fitting the k03s haha
Better pic of THS intercooler.
(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/jamierees1989/2012-07-27123354.jpg)
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a week?! :undecided:
When you have a turbo swap it tends to take longer Then a day :cool:
what do you mean? is the turbo fitted already, taking up to r tech. or are r tech fitting it too?
actually, you could answer me. going for same setup as you from ko3. how long did they have your car for? :smiley:
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Most people go for stage 1 then 2 which is a 3 hour session job done if the car is healthy etc.
I ideally want a custom map as I want my bigger injectors and bigger maf added, However I cant afford to leave the car for a week because of my job atm. Custom map is week long.
So AGU with k03s and forge actuator and yellow spring
forge 007p yellow spring
3inch turbo back with decat
THS front mount intercooler
5 piece silicone boost kit
Creation sprts tip
Catch can
The above is ideal for stage 2 on AGU but if I add my Calibra injectors and VR6 maf then a custom map would be needed as im pushing more air and fuel through.
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Most people go for stage 1 then 2 which is a 3 hour session job done if the car is healthy etc.
I ideally want a custom map as I want my bigger injectors and bigger maf added, However I cant afford to leave the car for a week because of my job atm. Custom map is week long.
So AGU with k03s and forge actuator and yellow spring
forge 007p yellow spring
3inch turbo back with decat
THS front mount intercooler
5 piece silicone boost kit
Creation sprts tip
Catch can
The above is ideal for stage 2 on AGU but if I add my Calibra injectors and VR6 maf then a custom map would be needed as im pushing more air and fuel through.
^ pretty much :laugh:
Had mine for a week :cool:
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2 more sleeps :grin:
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:) bet you cant wait
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Mate I cant sleep im soo excited :laugh:
Im worrying about things though as I dont want a sad trip home where I couldve sorted any problems out beforehand.
Im 99% sure its running healthy as it holds boost great, sounds good, recent service etc
Im going to take up a few spare parts such as ignition amp, spare maf aswell as vr6 maf an calibra injectors.
Hopefully it will be a good day ohhhh Im buying hobnobs tomoz too haha :laugh:
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Lol, im sure it will be fineee.
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Less than 24 hours il be at R-tech :grin:
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Less than 24 hours il be at R-tech :grin:
excited much? :laugh:
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Im like a big kid at christmas :laugh:
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Im like a big kid at christmas :laugh:
or even a normal kid at christmas :grin:
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Lunch box made :cool:
Hobnobs bought haha
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Lunch box made :cool:
Hobnobs bought haha
Haha not long now :grin:
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Going up to bed now try and sleep :grin:
Up early have a nice cooked breaskfast then on my travells
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Going up to bed now try and sleep :grin:
Up early have a nice cooked breaskfast then on my travells
The earlier you sleep the quicker tomorrow comes :grin:
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you still up jamie lol :grin:
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Dont get the guy too excited lol.
Hope your running it on tesco 99 or vpower!
Mine was on tesco 99.
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Dont get the guy too excited lol.
Hope your running it on tesco 99 or vpower!
Mine was on tesco 99.
v power is like rocking horse sh!t down here chris :grin:
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Tesco 99, far cheaper and just as good, if not better.
Still would love to see results of a fuel test.
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Enlighten us Jamie?
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BOOM :grin:
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Yawnnnn
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:sad: news
Car booked back in on 18th September!
My fault for my naivety everything was spot on first run was 209bhp so was well happy, Car went up on the ramp and we noticed from the decat to back box was 2inch in diameter!!!!
Not happy to the say the least! Not mentioning which garage it was but the cars back in Tuesday this week to have this rectified then back upto R-tech for two weeks (as im going abroad).
Atm the car is running 192bhp to the wheels and pulls MUCH better.
R-tech put a map on my car and didnt take a penny today the service is out of this world its unreal.
Sad times :cry: Lesson learned but next time vr6 maf, Calibra injectors and 80%sure water meth will be mapped in with no problems and they have 2weeks to play with to get it 100% :wink:
I will be aiming for 250bhp plus and close to 300lbs of torque so roll on 6weeks!!!!
I am sorry for this long pointless thread so far :cry:
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Savage mate!
But at least you get to get the full potential out of it when you take it back! :wink:
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:sad: news
Car booked back in on 18th September!
My fault for my naivety everything was spot on first run was 209bhp so was well happy, Car went up on the ramp and we noticed from the decat to back box was 2inch in diameter!!!!
Not happy to the say the least! Not mentioning which garage it was but the cars back in Tuesday this week to have this rectified then back upto R-tech for two weeks (as im going abroad).
Atm the car is running 192bhp to the wheels and pulls MUCH better.
R-tech put a map on my car and didnt take a penny today the service is out of this world its unreal.
Sad times :cry: Lesson learned but next time vr6 maf, Calibra injectors and 80%sure water meth will be mapped in with no problems and they have 2weeks to play with to get it 100% :wink:
I will be aiming for 250bhp plus and close to 300lbs of torque so roll on 6weeks!!!!
I am sorry for this long pointless thread so far :cry:
Shame mate but I know how you feel I took mine there but had to take it home as there were to many little faults and was proper gutted! Like you say the service was second to none and they helped me out all the way.
I had the wrong injectors but they were willing to let me order some new ones get them delivered then work on the car, shame I had other faults with it. :cry:
I will b booking and taking her back very soon and look forward to the results, im sure the same as yourself. Like said least you can now get all the bits sorted for the map, max potential!
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:( unfortunate Jamie.
You putting WMI on it then? 192bhp at wheels must be about 220-225bhp is it?
Whoever fitted your exhaust needs shooting :(
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is a shame is it the company you recomended to me that fitted the exhaust :shocked:
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:sad:
Well iv come out for a play and its alot better but flat after 5k revs!
Wmi is on the books im aimin for more than 300bls for sure :grin:
Cully unfortunatley it was but to be fair hes been cool and its booked in already.
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Hope you like your rods!
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beaten or bent?
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beaten with abuse and bent ahaha.
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Keeping this thread alive,
Car is booked in Tuesday 14th next week to sort the exhaust out.
I have been very very tempted to buy water meth kit but the hassle of buying it, fitting it and then keep on top of meth etc well its my daily car so I cba is the honest answer.
So rather than leaving my car with Nick for two weeks whilst im away im sorting the exhaust and going back up with hobnobs and try and map in the calibra injectors and 3inch maf. Aiming for between 240-250bhp and anything upto 300lbs torque in one day.
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Keeping this thread alive,
Car is booked in Tuesday 14th next week to sort the exhaust out.
I have been very very tempted to buy water meth kit but the hassle of buying it, fitting it and then keep on top of meth etc well its my daily car so I cba is the honest answer.
So rather than leaving my car with Nick for two weeks whilst im away im sorting the exhaust and going back up with hobnobs and try and map in the calibra injectors and 3inch maf. Aiming for between 240-250bhp and anything upto 300lbs torque in one day.
Sounds good :cool:
I'm in the same boat about the WMI but tryin not to think about it at The moment as I don't have the money anyway :laugh:
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Luckily Dave let me buy his on finance :wink:
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Car booked back in on 22nd August with R-tech :lipsrsealed:
2 trips in one month haha Lets hope its a better trip lol
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Glad i sold mine when i did! Id b chacing 400bhp n big tourke :tongue:
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I know mate its my money pit at the moment.
Iv promised my misses no more after this unless its needed or cosmetic.
I have to start spending money on the mk5 tdi to keep her happy.
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I know mate its my money pit at the moment.
Iv promised my misses no more after this unless its needed or cosmetic.
I have to start spending money on the mk5 tdi to keep her happy.
That's needed isn't it? :tongue:
And yes the MK5 need a remap :kiss: :laugh: :laugh:
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Haha wheels need respraying badly.
Rhyso you know it! :evil:
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Exhuast is fixed and going alot better 5k+ revs.
Wednesday 22nd D-Day :laugh:
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Bump
On my way up to Rtech :grin:
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Bump
On my way up to Rtech :grin:
:grin:
Hope it all goes well dude!
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Cheers mate hopefully will haha
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Keep us updated Jamie
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Wicked! can't wait to hear your results!
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Woowwww 12 hours out of the house covered 400miles!!!
So what an eventful day, some confusion on arrival I was booked in for a remap tweak not a custom map which can take a full day. So injectors and VR6 were out of the question.
I was a little upset but I knew after sorting my exhuast Id still go home a happy bunny in the end and will have to make a third trip up lol
Left Rtech running 232bhp and 270lbs.
The car feels so much smoother to drive and pulls very well to redline.
I also noticed a leak yesterday :embarrassed: Turns out it was my gearbox!
Seals have gone and iv lost half my gearbox oil in a day!
On my way home picked this up of a dude near me breaking his Golf £40!!!
(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac125/jamierees1989/2012-08-22174452.jpg)
Sat in my garage waiting to be fitted.
And again another MASSIVE thank you to Nick and his boys still didnt charge me as we will be sorting it out once its been custom mapped!!! A very long day indeed but worth it any day. :evil:
3rd time lucky I say :laugh:
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What stopped Nick custom mapping the injectors in? Time?
That figures are bloody good on stock injectors!
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Yeah basically, I was impressed with the results tbh. 1st and 2nd gear is loads better!
He wants to start from fresh and do things step by step rather than doing it all in one day etc.
So im off on holiday soon when im back itl be back up there for a few days.
Need to drive the car 30miles down to Cardiff I wonder if the gearbox will make it lmao.
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Left Rtech running 232bhp and 270lbs.
I think that's exactly what I said you'd get :P
Good figures indeed mate. Obviously a goodun. How much gain you'll see in peak numbers with the MAF and injectors in I don't know, but at least there will be a little more headroom in the setup with the bigger fuelling gear in there.
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Great results mate bet you live it! :cool:
But yet bet you can't wait to have it finished :wink:
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Yeah very pleased overall boys, the car made it down to Cardiff.
Cant wait to pick it up tomoz with new gearbox :evil:
Need a new inline fuel pump then il book it back in for final mapping with injectors and vr6 maf.
Would be nice to see more power but after that if the car is staying will have to think about bigger brakes, new bushes all round etc then more power once the car is solid.
3rd and 4th gears have phenomenal pulling power so easy to overtake and forget about the speed limit :lipsrsealed:
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Do you not have a intank pump jamie?
It was amazing the difference when I put mine in my mates bora with similar spec. Lean missfires galore before.
Got a pic of the graph?
3rd and 4th are just amazing aint they.
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The feeling of a stage 2 mapped car is just awesome :grin:
Sure you will be even happier with new Pump etc which will be good as when the new power stops being as exciting It will get better again :laugh:
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The feeling of a stage 2 mapped car is just awesome :grin:
Sure you will be even happier with new Pump etc which will be good as when the new power stops being as exciting It will get better again :laugh:
Tell me about it!
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No graph yet boys Im waiting for Nick to email it to me il upload it on here then.
Chris - Im still running 1.6 fuel pump with no other mods where fueling is concerned lol
Iv been told to add an inline pump and that should be enough. Wonder how long my standard clutch will last I changed it a few months ago but still running dual mass :laugh:
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Oh dear! not long I wouldn't reckon!
Mine lasted about 5k at 290lbft before it sh!t the bed.
Fitted an ABF flywheel and VR6 clutch and never looked back!
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Argh crap I shoudve bought a new clutch and fly wheel before the box gets fitted. A little late now lol
Il buy the kit in a few weeks so its handy when it starts slipping :evil:
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:laugh:
Tbf it depends how new it is as nick at r tech said his standard clutch took 340 ftlb before it atarted slipping so I reckon a new standard clutch would take 270 ftlb for a few months at least. :smiley:
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........depending how you drive it :grin:
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Yeah I changed it a few months ago 4 months max.
It should be ok tbh, I dont thrash it off the lights or anything 3rd and 4th are my main gears :evil: and sometimes 2nd but thats pretty rare.
Im in work until 6 today :sad: I so want to go and get my car now :laugh:
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my clutch was only 5k old when the car was mapped to stage 2, and lasted 5k at stage 2 before dying, so only 10k miles on it in total!
Jamie, I hate to be annoying man, but off the lights isn't what will kill your clutch, it's higher gears, 3rd upwards that will make it slip.
mine started slipping in 5th only at 3k when overtaking on the motorway where load is at it's highest, then over time it started slipping in 4th, then 3rd, then eventually second by the time it was fully mullered.
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Ohh dear lol
Not a huge job though, I guess its what happens when more power is wanted so if it needs doing itl get done. No point moaning about it and how much it costs blah blah blah I always knew I would need a solid fly wheel conversion anyhow so this would be my excuse.
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yea man, just drive it how you want and deal with it when the time comes!
Some people get lucky and they last for ages, some don't.
Just bare in mind it's high gears and low revs that kill it, you'll never kill the clutch revving it out to 6k in each gear and thrashing it, it's crusiing at 3k in 5th and nailling it to pass a lorry that'll make it slip!
pretty easy job to change when you need to as well, it's a mornings work, and the parts are cheap :)
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Awsome Prawny good advise thanks, Will keep that in mind atleast I can still have fun haha
Yeah totally agree mate, Took my mate an hour to get box off and check everything is ok, the car is ready for pick up now but im stuck in work until 6 :angry:
Only dropped it off late last night haha
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yea man, just drive it how you want and deal with it when the time comes!
Some people get lucky and they last for ages, some don't.
Just bare in mind it's high gears and low revs that kill it, you'll never kill the clutch revving it out to 6k in each gear and thrashing it, it's crusiing at 3k in 5th and nailling it to pass a lorry that'll make it slip!
pretty easy job to change when you need to as well, it's a mornings work, and the parts are cheap :)
Yeah 100% it's fix it when it breaks :laugh:
Can you explains this prawny??
Not sayin your wro but don't get why it would work like this
Surely ragging it off
The light with high revs and dropping the clutch is te type of thing that causes the damage?? :undecided:
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I can see his point where if your in 5th crusing then put your foot down theres alot of load on the clutch at low revs which will take its time to actually go somewhere which would cause it to "slip"
If your in 2nd and put your foot down theres load on the engine but itl rev up pretty quickly through the gears so less likely to "slip"
This is my understanding, Although off the lights ragging the car I would imagine it wont good on the flywheel lol
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two different types of abuse basically Ste,
traffic light grand prix and slipping the clutch is likely to fry it in that sense, it'll slip if you dump it instantly and over heat the friction surface and it'll loose grip, but generally in a FWD car the tyres will spin before the clutch suffers too much, unless you slip it like mad when launching.
once rolling, in 1st or 2nd gear, there isn't much load on the engine, due to the gearing it's easier for the car to accelerate at low speeds.
Think about it like a push bike, say you're rolling along at 4mph in a low spinny gear, try accelerating, and it's really easy, and you just pedal like mad. Change to a higher gear, and then try accelerating at the same rate. you need MUCH more force on the pedals, because the gearing is different.
it's basically the same principles in the clutch on the car
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two different types of abuse basically Ste,
traffic light grand prix and slipping the clutch is likely to fry it in that sense, it'll slip if you dump it instantly and over heat the friction surface and it'll loose grip, but generally in a FWD car the tyres will spin before the clutch suffers too much, unless you slip it like mad when launching.
once rolling, in 1st or 2nd gear, there isn't much load on the engine, due to the gearing it's easier for the car to accelerate at low speeds.
Think about it like a push bike, say you're rolling along at 4mph in a low spinny gear, try accelerating, and it's really easy, and you just pedal like mad. Change to a higher gear, and then try accelerating at the same rate. you need MUCH more force on the pedals, because the gearing is different.
it's basically the same principles in the clutch on the car
Alright mate Completely understand it now cheers for that.
Was just gettin a lil confused haha but see how it works now. :cool:
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Thats a much better explanation :grin:
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Thats a much better explanation :grin:
:laugh:
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Little update
Gearbox changed was hoping to keep the old unit but bloody diff was fooked.
The diff managed to make itself a hole into the casing and piss its gearbox oil inside and outside the gearbox. Massive fail but all done now.
The drive home was awsome tonight! :evil:
Clutch is still like new too so im a little happy I didnt need to change it although it had a small amount of gearbox oil on it my mate dried it out told me not to thrash it straight away.